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TSsoonlee33
post May 28 2010, 01:29 PM, updated 16y ago

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since i cant find any thread related to engine oil reviews, let me start 1 shall we guys?
i hope with this thread more drivers will use appropriate oils towards their engine capability respectively.

posting example:

brand: petronas syntium
group: 3
model:10 w40
price:95bucks
feedback: below average. nothing to shout out bout it

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post May 28 2010, 01:59 PM

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i'm driving waja 4g18
brand: castrol
model: 0w 30
price: 78 per litre
feedback: better acceleration & top speed
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post May 28 2010, 02:14 PM

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actually there is.. search harder bro
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post May 28 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ May 28 2010, 02:14 PM)
actually there is.. search harder bro
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haha yea i found 1 but it is emphasizing more on the price rank
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post May 29 2010, 08:32 PM

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brand: Idemitsu (Honda brand but it is made by Idemitsu)
model:5w40 ( Fully Synthetic)
price:RM120 ( black market price, now cant get already)
feedback:The oil itself looks very watery. Very very good pickup, quality deteriorate after 9k+km and good FC

Brand: Shell Helix HX-7
Model: 10w 40 (Semi Synthetic)
Price : RM 95
Feedback: Engine sound abit rough, pickup is ok.FC slightly higher. Can last till 6k+km before engine gets lazy due to oil degrade.

Brand : Castrol Magnatec
Model: 10w 40 (Semi Synthetic)
Price: RM 80+++ (Carrefour got discount that time)
Feedback: Dont really like it as the engine becomes quite lazy after 4800++km.

I'm driving Honda City Type Z 2001, heavy footer most of the time.

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post May 29 2010, 10:27 PM

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haha i tot castrol magnatec is tryin so hard even with sponsor fifa world cup
too bad they have lousy oil....
my nx oil gonna try out dat penzoil full syn

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post May 30 2010, 02:56 AM

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for some reasons, australians hate magnatec so much.you can google to find out.
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post May 30 2010, 10:30 AM

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i've used:

Brand: AMOIL
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully synthetic
Price : $110
My Thoughts : Rubbish Oil.
My rating: 1/5

Brand: Castrol Magnatec
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : $80 (was a very long time ago, before the price skyrocketed)
My Thoughts : Engine feels quiet and smooth at highway cruising speed. Quite a good oil IMO. Was using a 1.5 carb Wira at that time. good oil for that old engine.
My Rating : 5/5 (before the ridiculous price hike)

Brand: Total
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : $90
My Thoughts : Normal oil. Expected more from this oil. engine felt very coarse and noisy.
My rating : 2/5

Brand: Wurth
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : $90
My Thoughts : Good oil. Long lasting. Viscosity was still good after exceeding the mileage by 1000km.
My rating : 5/5

Brand: Idemitsu Super Touring
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : $95
My Thoughts : Good viscosity even after 5000km. Worth the money.
My rating : 5/5

Brand: Valvoline
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : $105
My Thoughts : Currently using. not much feedback yet. So far done about 3k km on this oil, still feels smooth and engine is responsive. However it turned dark quicker than Idemitsu that clocked 5000km.

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post May 30 2010, 06:55 PM

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Brand: Castrol Magnatec
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : Rm110 ( with filter and workmanship )
My Thoughts : Feels good at first but around 4k started to feel heavy.
My rating : 3/5

Brand: Shell Helix Ultra
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : $155 ( with filter and workmanship )
My Thoughts : Feels light and smooth , engine is pretty responsive too. Not to mentioned the engine seems more silent compare with Castrol Magnatec that i used previously.
My rating : 5/5

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post Jun 1 2010, 03:41 PM

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Brand: Q8 Advanced
Oil Type : 10-40 Semi Synthetic
Price : Rm90
My Thoughts : Best for semi synthetic


Brand: Torco SR1
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : 75 per ltr
My Thoughts : Good pickup and best oil I tried till now

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post Jun 1 2010, 04:10 PM

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Brand: Eneos Pro Racing
Oil Type : 5w-50 Full Synthetic
Price : RM180 (4ltr)
Feedback : not bad. peformance improved compare to previous semi syn. luckly my 2004 spectra didnt eat engine oil. x.x
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post Jun 1 2010, 09:04 PM

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i hv tried castrol edge and it give the engine better performance compare with others brand.
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post Jun 26 2010, 08:48 PM

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Nice thread, more info for us to make decision
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post Jul 4 2010, 05:26 PM

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hermm.. for me as long its multi-grade its ok since we at malaysia..
hv try
- eneos rm40
- duckhams rm40
- castrol magnatec rm70+
- castrol gtx rm35
at my engine i felt all the same.. hard to tell the different.. fully never try coz too xpensive ler.. as long as i change every 5k km its ok..

anyone ever try chemlube semi? my friend said its good choice, anyone?
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post Jul 9 2010, 09:48 AM

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any tried torco engine TR1? TQ
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post Jul 9 2010, 04:56 PM

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Brand: Castrol Edge
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM185
My Thoughts : engine run smoothly until 9k-10k
Car:Pesona Campro IAFM
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post Jul 9 2010, 05:11 PM

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Brand: Eneos
Oil Type : 10-40 semi Synthetic with molybdenum
Price : RM90
My Thoughts : engine very smooth and great FC
Car : iswara 1.3
Rating : 5/5

Same oil, different car
My thoughts : no difference coz maybe previously using pennzoil which was good enuff
Car : mazda lantis 2.0 v6
Rating : 3/5
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post Jul 15 2010, 09:29 AM

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Brand: Castrol Modern Engine
Oil Type : 15-40 semi Synthetic
Price : RM58
My Thoughts : engine smooth but FC didn't improve much even juz after service
Car : Wira 4G91
Rating : 4/5
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post Jul 15 2010, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(devil_may_cry08 @ Jun 26 2010, 08:48 PM)
Nice thread, more info for us to make decision
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hopefully u able to make a wise decision in future
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post Jul 20 2010, 01:14 PM

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from my research..

eneos engine oil from japan quite ok..
viscosity of 20w50 is the most frequent used by most of us..
rm55 will be the price range..

a lot of recycle engine oil in the market especially for castrol,shell.. if you saw any workshop using the engine oil with a relatively cheap price, pls just buy ur own engine oil and change it at their w/shop..

love ur car !
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post Jul 20 2010, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ May 29 2010, 10:27 PM)
haha i tot castrol magnatec is tryin so hard even with sponsor fifa world cup
too bad they have lousy oil....
my nx oil gonna try out dat penzoil full syn
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u should try castrol edge

i'm using castrol edge 5w-40 full synthetic, and has been great for 10km before i go for service. My car service interval is 10km.
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post Jul 22 2010, 09:14 PM

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how does castrol edge 5w40 compare with shell helix ultra or royal purple ?
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post Jul 22 2010, 11:14 PM

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Engine: Campro CPS

brand: Petronas Syntium 800
model: 15W-40
price: ~RM95 (forgot exact price)
feedback: so-so. not so good, not so bad... but definitely not very good after 5k.

brand: Petronas Mach5
model: 20W-50
price: ~RM60 (forgot exact price)
feedback: the worst oil for CPS engine. FC spiked, engine feels very lazy.

brand: Shell Helix
model: 20W-50
price: ~RM60 (forgot exact price)
feedback: so-so. not so good, not so bad... better than Mach5.

brand: Petronas Syntium 800
model: 10W-30
price: ~RM110 (forgot exact price)
feedback: i think this is one of the best oil grade to be used in CPS engine. however, being Petronas I dont think it will last longer than 5k. only used once, cannot elaborate much. and expensive compare to other brand too since it's in 3L and 1L package...

brand: Shell Helix HX7
model: 10W-40
price: RM99
feedback: I think one of the best oil for CPS engine though Proton recommends 10W-30... still, i wouldn't recommend for usage exceeding 5k... might be usable, but not recommended...
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All the while I'm using mineral for my myvi. Plan to change it to full syn.

Any recommendation on which brand/model to use and where to get it?
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 23 2010, 10:06 AM)
All the while I'm using mineral for my myvi. Plan to change it to full syn.

Any recommendation on which brand/model to use and where to get it?
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any brand that come into ur mind and exclude those name u never heard b4 and u r safe. any famous fully syn oil brand out there is safe as long as the oil grade is correct for ur engine and u wont go wrong oledi under normal or severe driving condition.

unless u have specific requirements than specific oil is needed, like u always going for high rev, track race and etc....


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QUOTE(dominic @ Jul 23 2010, 10:10 AM)
any brand that come into ur mind and exclude those name u never heard b4 and u r safe. any famous fully syn oil brand out there is safe as long as the oil grade is correct for ur engine and u wont go wrong oledi under normal or severe driving condition.

unless u have specific requirements than specific oil is needed, like u always going for high rev, track race and etc....
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normally i'm using NASA brand for mineral.

myvi is using 10W/40?

any place that got alot choices I can shop around?
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brand: Mobil 1
group: Super 2000
model: 10W-40
price: RM95
feedback: Less noise. Smoother revs. Esso RON95 vs Shell RON95. Esso hands up smile.gif Shell RON95 sucks ! (just additional info)
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Used on my Satria 1.6 1995 which is eating engine oil.
Yet to go for overhauling.

Brand: Eneos
Oil Type : 20w50
Price : RM50
My Thoughts : engine smooth and oil still available even after 4K km
Rating : 4/5

Brand : Pennzoil
Oil Type : 20w50 - on the bottle said recommended for car eating oil
Price : RM45
My Thoughts : normal but almost lost all engine oil after 3K km

Brand : Petronas Mach 5
Oil Type : 20w50
Price : RM56
My Thoughts : normal

Opinion, for my car which consumed engine oil, both mach 5 and eneos is ok but eneos has been showing better fuel consumption compared to mach 5 laugh.gif
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My engine consumes engine oil .. but after using bardahl 15w-50 mineral, it some sort of reconditioned my piston rings and now i'm using semi-syn. nvr consume black oil already biggrin.gif
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there is a topic about fake engine oil sweat.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...l=fake+oilumbs:

my dad and all my family now use Petronas oil cos with it the engione will be safer and have peace on mind thumbup.gif

My dad said he feel indeed the Petronas oil are better than Shell oil and mobil. He dont use it before becasue fake seller said not good and sell fake oil now he never turn back and will be using Petronas oil on all his car. He buy the oil from Petronas station and gain point thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Jul 20 2010, 06:11 PM)
u should try castrol edge

i'm using castrol edge 5w-40 full synthetic, and has been great for 10km before i go for service. My car service interval is 10km.
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hi, im driving S4PH engine..next month may service my car
so far using:

brand: ELF Molygraphite
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model:15W50
price: last i know RM80
feedback: don't know the exact regarding this but so far engine running smooth smile.gif

//this oil good? if any brand/molecule model good for my engine, may give a try..hehe

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ELF Molygraphite is good smile.gif
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Chemlube Full Syn 10-40w..

Seriously damn nice wink.gif
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Engine: Corolla EE80

Brand: Shell
Model: Helix (20w50),yellow bottle
Price: RM58
Feedback: Oil color turned yellow-brown at 5000km, I considered this as the best oil I ever use.

Brand: Castrol
Model:20w50
Price:RM45
feedback: Oil turned dark after 3000km. Ended up beh tahan the color then changed oil at 4000 km.

Brand: Shell
Model:X100 (20w50), white bottle
Price:RM42
Feedback: Color-wise, X100 last longer than Castrol, but still cannot beat Helix. Performance no comment.
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Jul 27 2010, 03:22 AM)
Engine: Corolla EE80

Brand: Shell
Model: Helix (20w50),yellow bottle
Price: RM58
Feedback: Oil color turned yellow-brown at 5000km, I considered this as the best oil I ever use.

Brand: Castrol
Model:20w50
Price:RM45
feedback: Oil turned dark after 3000km. Ended up beh tahan the color then changed oil at 4000 km.

Brand: Shell
Model:X100 (20w50), white bottle
Price:RM42
Feedback: Color-wise, X100 last longer than Castrol, but still cannot beat Helix. Performance no comment.
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Following the initial success in the marketing of Pennzoil products by UMW Auto Parts Sdn Bhd, Pennzoil USA in its major globalisation programme in1991, awarded exclusively the marketing and distribution rights of Pennzoil in Malaysia to UMW Holdings Berhad.

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Dear friends, when you tell your mechanic you want a Pennzoil 20w-50 engine oil, please make sure it is blue-bottled GT Performance Plus.

There is another Pennzoil product with same SAE grade, named MGMO, usually cheaper than the former.

Pay attention to API rating on the bottle.
GT Performance Plus is API SJ
MGMO is API SG.
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If the workshop don't have GT Performance Plus, go get one outside.

(This message is dedicated for Pennzoil 20w-50 users only)
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Here is another comparison among the obsolete Shell Helix Super, newer X100, and HX3.

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It is apparent that the obsolete Helix Super is 'HO LIAO' actually, duno why stopped production.
Meanwhile, based on API ratings, X100 is actually 'as good as' HX3. Most probably the additive is the difference.

Their prices are:
Helix Super ,API SL, RM58
X100, API SG, RM42
HX3, API SG, RM48
Perhaps the price already tells something.

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Try MPZ Magnetic Friction Reducer with every engine oil change for extra protection of pistons and cylinders. MPZ Magnetic Friction Reducer adheres to iron and steel surfaces where it is chemically absorbed and becomes part of the surface itself.
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QUOTE(xMika @ Jul 23 2010, 03:44 PM)
brand: Mobil 1
group: Super 2000
model: 10W-40
price: RM95
feedback: Less noise. Smoother revs. Esso RON95 vs Shell RON95. Esso hands up smile.gif Shell RON95 sucks ! (just additional info)
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Is this semi synthetic oil?

I have been quoted by 1 workshop Mobil 1 semi-syn, RM98 but not sure the model though.
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Anyone here tried with Bardhal Synthetic? Its among the cheapest in the Full Synthetic range.

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@harrychoo

Yeah its semi-syn biggrin.gif Judging on the price, RM98 should be the semi-syn Super 2000 smile.gif

@VeeJay

Bardahl synthetic is the cheapest .. fully syn for RM85 only. Semi syn RM65. Mineral RM59. But the packaging is in approx. 4 US gallon,, equivalent to 3.75litres .. I used the mineral before .. very good smile.gif

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Anyone can share your opinion on best synthetic oil within the budget of 200 ?

Royal Purple 5w30 , Q8 Excel 5w40 , Shell Helix Ultra 5w40(using currently) , Prestone 5w40 , Mobil ?
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Mobil 1 5W-30 smile.gif Got alot of good reviews about Q8 as well.
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Brand: Sumo
Model: R3 10W-40 Semi-Synthetic
price: RM138
Feedback: Smooth, Quiet still OK after 5500km.
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QUOTE(xMika @ Jul 29 2010, 03:36 PM)
@harrychoo

Yeah its semi-syn biggrin.gif Judging on the price, RM98 should be the semi-syn Super 2000 smile.gif

@VeeJay

Bardahl synthetic is the cheapest .. fully syn for RM85 only. Semi syn RM65. Mineral RM59. But the packaging is in approx. 4 US gallon,, equivalent to 3.75litres .. I used the mineral before .. very good smile.gif
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What is the mileage for Super 2000?
Think will try this oil on this weekend service.
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im using:

Brand: Syntium 800
Model: 15w-50
price: got it for free
Feedback: normal. dont think its the best. i used it cuz i forgot to check my engine oil and tiba tiba red light already blinked. luckily got one 4l package in the car (got it for lucky draw). engine power felt okay but not so much compared to penzzoil (but i forgot which one cuz my mechanic filled it in for me before it went dry)
rating: 4/5...

but in future, im planning to go for syntium 5000 or syntium 3000
im petronas staff, so got it cheap
anyone tried these?
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 30 2010, 09:07 AM)
What is the mileage for Super 2000?
Think will try this oil on this weekend service.
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Usually the mileage for semi-syn is 6000km. But if you're in a tight budget, or the engine oil still performs well enough, can last around 7500km ..

Mineral -5000km
Semi-syn - 7500km
Fully-syn - 10000km
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But based on my engine oil change interval sticker that my mech stick on my windscreen, the mileage is 5000km only .. but who cares, I'm gonna use it until 7500km laugh.gif

But again, engine oil is cheaper than engine. So judge on your own nod.gif


Added on July 30, 2010, 5:06 pm
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im using:

Brand: Syntium 800
Model: 15w-50
price: got it for free
Feedback: normal. dont think its the best. i used it cuz i forgot to check my engine oil and tiba tiba red light already blinked. luckily got one 4l package in the car (got it for lucky draw). engine power felt okay but not so much compared to penzzoil (but i forgot which one cuz my mechanic filled it in for me before it went dry)
rating: 4/5...

but in future, im planning to go for syntium 5000 or syntium 3000
im petronas staff, so got it cheap
anyone tried these?
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Your engine consumes engine oil ? Even when you're using minerals ?

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 30 2010, 03:07 PM)
im using:

Brand: Syntium 800
Model: 15w-50
price: got it for free
Feedback: normal. dont think its the best. i used it cuz i forgot to check my engine oil and tiba tiba red light already blinked. luckily got one 4l package in the car (got it for lucky draw). engine power felt okay but not so much compared to penzzoil (but i forgot which one cuz my mechanic filled it in for me before it went dry)
rating: 4/5...

but in future, im planning to go for syntium 5000 or syntium 3000
im petronas staff, so got it cheap
anyone tried these?
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Can outsider buy special price too? cool2.gif

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im using:

Brand: Motul 4100 turbolite (semi syc)
Model: 10W-40
price: RM140
Feedback: average to me, would like to try Motul 300v in the next coming oil change rclxms.gif
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Brand and Type : Royal Purple XPR 0w-30
Price : About 350 ringgit for 5+ litres required
Service Interval : When i feel like it, sometimes i do 13000 km before a service.
Feedback : Erm, i've never used any other oil so regularly, but it was an improvement over the Mobil 1 0w-40 and Motul 300V i used to use.


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@empire23,

Mind to tell us what car you drive ? Cause seldom ppl use 0W-30 oils unless its a high-performance car biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xMika @ Jul 30 2010, 05:02 PM)

Added on July 30, 2010, 5:06 pm

Your engine consumes engine oil ? Even when you're using minerals ?
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yeah, i wonder why
after 3 months, then suddenly u get that clunking noise
luckily, the red light merely blinked and i was at the carpark then...
this was 4 weeks ago
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btw, syntium 800 is semi syn

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@empire23,

Mind to tell us what car you drive ? Cause seldom ppl use 0W-30 oils unless its a high-performance car biggrin.gif
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R34 RB25DET @ 11 PSI.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 31 2010, 02:28 AM)
R34 RB25DET @ 11 PSI.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 30 2010, 08:56 PM)
My current service regiment.

Brand and Type : Royal Purple XPR 0w-30
Price : About 350 ringgit for 5+ litres required
Service Interval : When i feel like it, sometimes i do 13000 km before a service.
Feedback : Erm, i've never used any other oil so regularly, but it was an improvement over the Mobil 1 0w-40 and Motul 300V i used to use.
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XPR , highest range from royal purple. doh.gif btw , is engine oil over the states there cheaper than here ?
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nice oil u using there bro
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It's a great oil and my turbo bearings love it even with the extra boost.

I also use Redline MT-90 for my gearbox. Best shifts i've had in ages and the FS5R30A loves the oil to bits. I'm usually an objective person, but the difference between Redline and my old Motul Gear 300 is like night and day.

QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jul 31 2010, 01:57 PM)
XPR , highest range from royal purple.  doh.gif  btw , is engine oil over the states there cheaper than here ?
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I don't live in the states. Live in Australia. And it's actually more expensive.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 31 2010, 03:07 PM)
It's a great oil and my turbo bearings love it even with the extra boost.

I also use Redline MT-90 for my gearbox. Best shifts i've had in ages and the FS5R30A loves the oil to bits. I'm usually an objective person, but the difference between Redline and my old Motul Gear 300 is like night and day.
I don't live in the states. Live in Australia. And it's actually more expensive.
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What car do you drive? A fren of mine had a pretty bad experience with Redline's MT-90 on his Version 8 STI Impreza. After awhile he said shifting the gearbox feels like moving a really heavy stone laugh.gif After a few days he changed to Motul's 90PA and it was alot better. Same like you...like night and day but the other way around hahaha laugh.gif

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you guys should read the car/engine manual first. Theres a specific viscocity required for the type of weather/operating temperature you're in for optimum protection of the engine components.
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QUOTE(egiewan @ Aug 1 2010, 02:50 AM)
What car do you drive? A fren of mine had a pretty bad experience with Redline's MT-90 on his Version 8 STI Impreza. After awhile he said shifting the gearbox feels like moving a really heavy stone laugh.gif After a few days he changed to Motul's 90PA and it was alot better. Same like you...like night and day but the other way around hahaha laugh.gif
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Because he is using the wrong oil.
The correct oil for redline brand on the Sti should be Redline 75W90NS or Shockproof lightweight.

The motul 90PA is ok.
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sumting to spice up this thread
price definitely dirt cheap, but quality wise not nuff promising
wad say u guys


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The "Amerioil" brand of 20W-50 oil is quite lightweight
for its viscosity.

I bought one can from Univeral Auto in Pudu last time
and it improved performance in my "old junk" car.
Cost about $36 then, 4 liters.

However, they don't stock it anymore.

The agent is New Hoong Fatt, the importer of all those
Taiwan body parts. However, they are selling for about
$50 plus.

http://www.newhoongfatt.com.my/nhf.htm


Universal Auto said they can sell much cheaper because
they order in bulk from New Hoong Fatt.


Other than than, Pennzoil's "MGMO' 20W-50 oil is also
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Usually use Mobil 1 or Castrol Edge 5W-30 for summer, 0W-40 winter. Tried Penrite SIN 0-50W once.. lightest oil they had in the SIN range, apparently ok as a 0W-40 replacement.. and my fuel consumption went down the drain.
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QUOTE(gjrforce @ Oct 21 2010, 01:52 PM)
Because he is using the wrong oil.
The correct oil for redline brand on the Sti should be Redline 75W90NS or Shockproof lightweight.

The motul 90PA is ok.
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Thanks for the feedback! What does NS mean behind the viscosity index? tongue.gif
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The NS is not part of the viscosity index. The NS belongs to redline. The viscosity index should read as Redline 75W90 NS. Notice the space between the 90 and NS.

For redline, the NS series of gear oils do not contain any friction modifiers. Normal synthetic gear oils are too slippery for LSDs. The NS series are made specifically for gearboxs with LSDs.
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Brand: Caltex Delo 400 (Multi-grade)
Oil Type & Grade : Heavy Duty Engine Oil, 15W-40 API CI-4+/SL
Price : RM170 / 18L pail
Feedback : Engine runs much smoothly and more Rev happier.

Previous Filled (Last year):
Brand: Mobil Delvac MX (Multi-grade)
Oil Type & Grade : Heavy Duty Engine Oil, 15W-40 API CI-4/SL
Price : RM65 / 5L
Feedback : Engine run smoothly and great for my usual 6 month OCI (Between 3000 ~ 8000+ KM) but sounded coarser after 4 ~ 5 month of usage)
Car: Campro S4PH (mostly weekend ride, low mileage - 92,000+KM ~ 6+ year old)

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anyone used that Motul H-Tech 5w30 before on a campro? how's it?
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never tried motul, but using redline 5w-30 on campro after some time will hear tak tak tak sound from camshaft..
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hm..too thin?


Added on November 11, 2010, 9:52 pmif too thin, i wonder would it be better to use the shell helix ultra?

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5W-30 is ok, not too thin, but I think 5W-40 would be best, catter for low and high temperature. You need the flow of thin oil during cold for easier pumping around the engine for protection, if you rev high, then you might need the higher viscosity to avoid oil lost.

Since shinjite said Campro is hot, I'll recommend you to go with 5W-40 or 10W-40. 5W-30 would be ok too but monitor oil level every once or 2 weeks.

And Zaypher, most fully synthetic and/or semi synthetics (mineral also) would be good enough for normal use, as long as they all exceed API SM grade.

I've used oil like Royal Purple, Amsoil, and now Petronas fully syns, I've also used cheaper mineral 20W-50 in my cars and again, they won't give you noticeable performance increase. But with good quality oil, you are rest assured when you trash your beloved car.

But I have this tendency to service earlier than the recommended interval. Mineral use for 3-4k km, semi syn 5k, fully syn 8-9k.


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hm..too thin?


Added on November 11, 2010, 9:52 pmif too thin, i wonder would it be better to use the shell helix ultra?
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Use Shell Helix Ultra if you can get it cheap at Tesco, or Carrefour (RM 148). Otherwise, get Penzoil Platinum from zendengoh as I think it is really Shell Helix Ultra in a different package.


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sumting to spice up this thread
price definitely dirt cheap, but quality wise not nuff promising
wad say u guys
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LOL, I never trust Tesco's stuffs, read about Tesco's radiator coolant causing rust and stuff in the radiator in some forum.

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Price : RM60 / litre
Feedback : Engine gets more responsive.

Previous Filled #1:
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I have been reading that the Shell Helix Full Synthetic is a little heavy. But how's it compare to Castrol Semi-Syn? Is it right to say that any Full Synthetic will have a better viscousity than any Semi-Synthetic?
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MOTUL 6100. very good. especially in high revving.
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QUOTE(endau02 @ Nov 25 2010, 12:52 PM)
Current Filled:
Car: Wira 1.5M 97 (carbie)
Brand: Caltex Delo 400 (Multi-grade)
Oil Type & Grade : Heavy Duty Engine Oil, 15W-40 API CI-4+/SL
Price : RM96/5L @ caltex
Feedback : not bad, though not as good as 5W30.
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Added on November 25, 2010, 1:04 pmCurrent Filled:
Brand: Perodua
Oil Type & Grade : 5W30 Semi Synthethic
Price : RM90 per bottle
Feedback : Rev happily up to 6500rpm redline adi >_<
Car: Proton Wira 1.6

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have any one tried these brands?

1. MSP
2. Hocen
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have any one tried these brands?

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2. Hocen
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do u guys ever see/heard VERITY engine oil and TOP 1 engine oil. see this booth at GT sepang when i lepak2 at ENEOS booth..
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I've used Mobil 1, Shell, Motul, Torco and some other crap oils. If you ask me, Torco SR-1 is the best I've used so far. No doubt it's expensive but your car really feels lighter and smoother acceleration. Mobil 1 is good as well but Shell is hopeless among these 3.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jun 20 2011, 09:05 PM)
I've used Mobil 1, Shell, Motul, Torco and some other crap oils. If you ask me, Torco SR-1 is the best I've used so far. No doubt it's expensive but your car really feels lighter and smoother acceleration. Mobil 1 is good as well but Shell is hopeless among these 3.
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:29 AM)
Yup torco is among the best oil.. u never try ENEOS right  smile.gif
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QUOTE(limautotyre @ Jul 20 2010, 01:14 PM)
from my research..

eneos engine oil from japan quite ok..
viscosity of 20w50 is the most frequent used by most of us..
rm55 will be the price range..

a lot of recycle engine oil in the market especially for castrol,shell.. if you saw any workshop using the engine oil with a relatively cheap price, pls just buy ur own engine oil and change it at their w/shop..

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some workshop like to con people, they put engine oil only until it reach minimal limit, then the rest of engine oil they songlap
3-4 car they songlap can sell like one bottle of engine oil
so make sure that after service if got engine oil balance, take it back with you
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QUOTE(raul88 @ Jun 24 2011, 09:35 AM)
some workshop like to con people, they put engine oil only until it reach minimal limit, then the rest of engine oil they songlap
3-4 car they songlap can sell like one bottle of engine oil
so make sure that after service if got engine oil balance, take it back with you
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correct.. buy urself the oil.. and check the original marking at the bottle.
Honda oil and Eneos oil have this marking...

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Had anyone heard of Voltronic from German. ??

I've use Motul 4100 Semi Syn 10-40W, turns dark kind of quick.

Tried SUMO Semi Syn 10-40W, nothing to shout about.


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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 25 2011, 01:23 AM)
Had anyone heard of Voltronic from German. ??

I've use Motul 4100 Semi Syn 10-40W, turns dark kind of quick.

Tried SUMO Semi Syn 10-40W, nothing to shout about.
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jun 25 2011, 01:59 AM)
motul is far better than voltronic..
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Motul turns the oil darker in very short mileage. Compared with my Nissan C22 van using voltronic 15-40W semi syn, already hit 2000km mileage yet yellowish.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 25 2011, 09:37 AM)
Motul turns the oil darker in very short mileage. Compared with my Nissan C22 van using voltronic 15-40W semi syn, already hit 2000km mileage yet yellowish.
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turn darker fast but how about performance wise? maybe the grade is not suitable.

please bear in mind.. motul is among the top ranking oil in the world..+ join gt Japan last week.
same class as redline,eneos,torco,q8,lucas,royal purple..
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currently i'm using Eneos 5w30 semi for my k3ve...
any feedback on TorqNM 5w30 fully ? tq tq
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QUOTE(epyteh @ Jun 26 2011, 01:44 PM)
currently i'm using Eneos 5w30 semi for my k3ve...
any feedback on TorqNM 5w30 fully ? tq tq
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torqNM? or Torco?

Performance wise eneos 5w30 on ur engine? good , so-so or bad?
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How about ELF? any comment?
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How about ELF? any comment?
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i have no intention at all to used ELF.. i dont know why.. maybe the word is ugly and dont have a good feedback during drag or etc.
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My advice is to go for proper establish oil brands. Please remember you're living in Malaysia and it's not hard to make fake oils. I can also do it behind my back yard by filling in oil bottles with rubbish oil, seal it back and sell off.
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For gen2 1.3 which engine oil suits the best ?
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i'm using eneos 5w30 so far so sweet i would say...
plan to give a try on torqNM ... heard quite good as well....
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I see... But only Amway member will buy their product engine oil-ELF
quite expensive I would say.. 4L 15-50W =RM89
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QUOTE(epyteh @ Jun 28 2011, 12:36 AM)
i'm using eneos 5w30 so far so sweet i would say...
plan to give a try on torqNM ... heard quite good as well....
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Eneos 5w30 is semi synthethic .. i believed 5w30 torqNm is Fully synthethic and expensive i believe
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:07 PM)
Eneos 5w30 is semi synthethic .. i believed  5w30 torqNm is Fully synthethic and expensive i believe
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its for my k3ve
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QUOTE(epyteh @ Jul 1 2011, 11:18 PM)
ya, is it ok if i switch from semi 5w30 to fully 5w30 of torqnm?  icon_question.gif
its for my k3ve
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Not right? Then
Why dont u try and share ur experience. =)
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Torco is the best I have tried yet,its the only one that can last me 3000km with the same performance.Others lasts only 1000km before I can feel a major loss in performance.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 2 2011, 08:05 PM)
Torco is the best I have tried yet,its the only one that can last me 3000km with the same performance.Others lasts only 1000km before I can feel a major loss in performance.
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Pedro, yup for know torco is the best performance oil. But eneos sustina have beaten torco, exceed api SN. the price is ~ rm300
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 2 2011, 08:19 PM)
Pedro, yup for know torco is the best performance oil. But eneos sustina have beaten torco, exceed api SN. the price is ~ rm300
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Is it better than Motul 300V?
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 2 2011, 09:03 PM)
Is it better than Motul 300V?
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Confirmed but the price is superb expensive!
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 2 2011, 09:26 PM)
Confirmed but the price is superb expensive!
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Its Rm300 right?

300V is Rm350!
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 2 2011, 09:33 PM)
Its Rm300 right?

300V is Rm350!
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eneos sustina 0w20 and 5w30 = RM300
eneos sustina 0w50 = RM400
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I guess best bang for buck still Torco then.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jul 3 2011, 12:14 PM)
I guess best bang for buck still Torco then.
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agreed. because torco worth ur money.. only rm215 for 4L
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hmm any opinion on hi-rev? i've been using hi-rev for the past 3 servicing i've done.. hi rev 9000, fully synthetic for my myvi =/
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ Jul 3 2011, 02:00 PM)
hmm any opinion on hi-rev? i've been using hi-rev for the past 3 servicing i've done.. hi rev 9000, fully synthetic for my myvi =/
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hi rev? huhuhu should used torco sr1 5w30 or eneos 5w30 instead.. the best oil for myvi so far
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how bout pricing wise? smile.gif
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ Jul 3 2011, 03:21 PM)
how bout pricing wise? smile.gif
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torco (RM215) is expensive but superb performance.
eneos (105) is acceptable and still superb

only this two oil have a good feedback from myvi user so far..
check at myvian and myvi club..
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torco engine oil price still ok if it's sr1...but the gear oil very expensive lol if the SGO line !!

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Jul 3 2011, 04:33 PM)
torco engine oil price still ok if it's sr1...but the gear oil very expensive lol!!
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agreed.. too expensive.
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Anyone here tried Liqui Moly engine oil before? Review please?
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S4PH
Motul 8100 x-cess
around myr 120 to 140 x2
light acceleration till i find my auto gb kinda ridiculous
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QUOTE(sengko @ Jul 4 2011, 08:40 PM)
Anyone here tried Liqui Moly engine oil before? Review please?
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Liqui Moly is not on par as castrol fyi.
thats y u dont see this brand join either drag,GT even and etc, workshop also hardly used it, even sparepart shop rarely take this brand.

+ liqui moly 10w40 is API SL
even shell and petronas upgraded to SM already

http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/mediend...2010W-40_EN.pdf


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QUOTE(def_lok @ Jul 4 2011, 08:50 PM)
S4PH
Motul 8100 x-cess
around myr 120 to 140 x2
light acceleration till i find my auto gb kinda ridiculous
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120 - 280?

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@gagak, whats the different between SL and SM?
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API 'SM' oils are designed to provide improved oxidation resistance, improved deposit protection, better wear protection, and better low-temperature performance over the life of the oil than API 'SL' oils.

copy from other website.. just google it.. find many good answer.. avoid API SL.. SL is introduced in 2001.. now already 2011...
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bro gagak, torco SR1 5w30 fully can last for 10,000km as other fully syn oil did? pls clarify me... tq... might consider this as well... =)

actually i did heard something from others, if u always drive ur car, u can go for fully oil... make u go less trip to sc and save money...

but if u less drive ur car, means do service after a long time... recommend to use semi as if use fully, the interval of servicing might be too long... n the oil stay in the car inside too long not good...

i dunno is it true onot but sounds weird for me...

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QUOTE(epyteh @ Jul 4 2011, 11:56 PM)
bro gagak, torco SR1 5w30 fully can last for 10,000km as other fully syn oil did? pls clarify me... tq... might consider this as well...  =)

actually i did heard something from others, if u always drive ur car, u can go for fully oil... make u go less trip to sc and save money...

but if u less drive ur car, means do service after a long time... recommend to use semi as if use fully, the interval of servicing might be too long... n the oil stay in the car inside too long not good...

i dunno is it true onot but sounds weird for me...
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of course can last for 10,000km.. smile.gif
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But some oil filter can't last till 10kkm.....
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QUOTE(epyteh @ Jul 4 2011, 11:56 PM)
bro gagak, torco SR1 5w30 fully can last for 10,000km as other fully syn oil did? pls clarify me... tq... might consider this as well...  =)

actually i did heard something from others, if u always drive ur car, u can go for fully oil... make u go less trip to sc and save money...

but if u less drive ur car, means do service after a long time... recommend to use semi as if use fully, the interval of servicing might be too long... n the oil stay in the car inside too long not good...

i dunno is it true onot but sounds weird for me...
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Its true..general service intervals are 5k km (or 10k if using fully syn) or every 3 months
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QUOTE(kyheng @ Jul 5 2011, 01:19 AM)
But some oil filter can't last till 10kkm.....
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this is correct.. that is y dont used cap ayam oil filter for fully synthethic..
for honda, dont used blue colour oil filter.. very2 cap ayam. stick to hamp and hamp only.
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what oil would you recommend for:
1. Honda City 2009?
2. Kenari (i think it's the 2nd or 3rd model)

Mainly, I am looking at better FC and a good acceleration (if possible).

thanks heaps!
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:28 AM)
this is correct.. that is y dont used cap ayam oil filter for fully synthethic..
for honda, dont used blue colour oil filter.. very2 cap ayam. stick to hamp and hamp only.
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I will suggest get back original Japan parts.... But now just too much fakes around the market..... So I'll just skip the fully-syn and using semi-syn... Then service it every 5000-5500km....
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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Jul 5 2011, 09:54 AM)
what oil would you recommend for:
1. Honda City 2009?
2. Kenari (i think it's the 2nd or 3rd model)

Mainly, I am looking at better FC and a good acceleration (if possible).

thanks heaps!
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Honda City
Semi 5w30 or fully 5w40
kenari mineral 10w30 or semi 5w30
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:28 AM)
this is correct.. that is y dont used cap ayam oil filter for fully synthethic..
for honda, dont used blue colour oil filter.. very2 cap ayam. stick to hamp and hamp only.
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hamp is wat im currently using...

but ive been curious about the Bosch Type R filters and also the power enterprise magnetic filters.....

just serviced muh car on saturday with Cusco fully syn 5w/40 oil....gotta wait another 10k before i can try out the other filters... would prolly go with the power enterprise filter
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jul 5 2011, 02:05 PM)
hamp is wat im currently using...

but ive been curious about the Bosch Type R filters and also the power enterprise magnetic filters.....

just serviced muh car on saturday with Cusco fully syn 5w/40 oil....gotta wait another 10k before i can try out the other filters... would prolly go with the power enterprise filter
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magnetic filter is all BS.. you can cut the oil filter to check.. why there is a need for magnetic since ur filter already filtered the oil impurities and etc.. nod.gif

magnetic sump nut is good. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 02:23 PM)
magnetic filter is all BS.. you can cut the oil filter to check.. why there is a need for magnetic since ur filter already filtered the oil impurities and etc..  nod.gif

magnetic sump nut  is good.  thumbup.gif
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nvm...i wanna be kiasu. get magnetic filter AND magnetic sump nut HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:28 AM)
this is correct.. that is y dont used cap ayam oil filter for fully synthethic..
for honda, dont used blue colour oil filter.. very2 cap ayam. stick to hamp and hamp only.
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Honda blue colour oil filter is cap ayam? blink.gif

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Honda City
Semi 5w30 or fully 5w40
kenari mineral 10w30 or semi 5w30

@gagak - any brand in particular as well?
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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 03:34 PM)
Honda blue colour oil filter is cap ayam?  blink.gif
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yap cap ayam.. ori one is Hamp Green Colour
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but the meaning of HAMP is Honda After Market Parts..
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brand: Conoco Hydroclear Super All Season
model:10W-40
price:about rm60+
feedback: The oil itself looks very watery,better acceleration and engine feels lighter and more revvy

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 03:53 PM)
but the meaning of HAMP is Honda After Market Parts..
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i know that smile.gif
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as far as i know, there are 5 types of Honda oil filter..

1. HAMP made in Thailand (widely used at Honda SC)

2. HAMP made in USA (made by Filtech Inc.)

3. Blue colour one with Honda logo (made by Toyo Roki Mfg. Co. Japan)

4. Blue colour one with Honda logo (made in USA by Filtech Inc.)

Fyi, Filtech Inc. was established by Toyo Roki Mfg. Co.

5. Blue colour one with Honda logo (made by Honda Japan)

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addition: HAMP Japan oil filter also exist which is also made by Toyo Roki thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 04:36 PM)
as far as i know, there are 5 types of Honda oil filter..

1. HAMP made in Thailand (widely used at Honda SC)

2. HAMP made in USA (made by Filtech Inc.)

3. Blue colour one with Honda logo (made by Toro Yoki Mfg. Co. Japan)

4. Blue colour one with Honda logo (made in USA by Filtech Inc.)

Fyi, Filtech Inc. was established by Toro Yoki Mfg. Co.

5. Blue colour one with Honda logo (made by Honda Japan)
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then?
fyi. not all blue colour with honda logo come from honda japan..
and the most cheap filter in the market is blue colour.. if u used mineral, blue colour is ok.. but not for fully synthetic.
green hamp thailand RM14 at sparepart shop.. green hamp usa with box RM29 at sparepart shop.. blue colour Rm3 for foreman price

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 04:40 PM)
then?
fyi. not all blue colour with honda logo come from honda japan..
and the most cheap filter in the market is blue colour.. if u used mineral, blue colour is ok.. but not for fully synthetic.
green hamp thailand RM14 at sparepart shop.. green hamp usa with box  RM29 at sparepart shop..  blue colour Rm3 for foreman price
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get the blue one, with Honda logo & in a box with correct part number smile.gif

the one made by Filtech or Toroyoki also acceptable as there are established company..

fyi, most of Honda air filters are made by these 2 companies..not by Honda

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 04:49 PM)
get the blue one, with Honda logo & in a box with correct part number smile.gif

the one made by Filtech or Toroyoki also acceptable as there are established company..

fyi, most of Honda air filters are made by these 2 companies..not by Honda
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hehehe.. google bro.. comparison between hamp and standard oil filter.. which one is better smile.gif
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HAMP from Japan also made by Toyoroki..

but is has less filtration material than the blue one..

i guess the difference is only marginal..

saying the blue filter is cap ayam in general is not correct, coz some Honda SC will use the blue filter once the free service coupon is finished coz they charge more for original blue filter..

maybe there is some cap ayam filter out there that is claimed to be original Honda & in blue colour..

therefore, there is a possibility for some of the green one to be cap ayam as well..
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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 07:04 PM)
HAMP from Japan also made by Toyoroki..

but is has less filtration material than the blue one..

i guess the difference is only marginal..

saying the blue filter is cap ayam in general is not correct, coz some Honda SC will use the blue filter once the free service coupon is finished coz they charge more for original blue filter..

maybe there is some cap ayam filter out there that is claimed to be original Honda & in blue colour..

therefore, there is a possibility for some of the green one to be cap ayam as well..
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
i think u should google before making any statement here.
FYI.. honda SC also have Hamp.. it matter u want or not... if u not asking them, therefore they will not give it to you.
+ expensive

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 07:25 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
i think u should google before making any statement here.
FYI.. honda SC also have Hamp.. it matter u want or not... if u not asking them, therefore they will not give it to you.
+ expensive
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can u provide any link here? the one that states HAMP is better than original blue filter?

coz for me both of them are same in quality, or have marginal differences only.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 07:55 PM)
can u provide any link here? the one that states HAMP is better than original blue filter?

coz for me both of them are same in quality, or have marginal differences only..  thumbup.gif
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hehehe... malas want to find the link for u..

user posted image
share some chart for u if u know japanese.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:04 PM)
hehehe... malas want to find the link for u..

user posted image
share some chart for u if u know japanese..  brows.gif
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i dont understand Japanese.. sweat.gif

this one is for HAMP Japan, how about HAMP from USA & Thailand?
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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 09:10 PM)
i dont understand Japanese..  sweat.gif

this one is for HAMP Japan, how about HAMP from USA & Thailand?
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ok la i tell u little bit i know from oil manufacturer itself..

Introducing Japan Honda's aftermarket line of automotive products..."HAMP Synergy". HAMP Synergy are aftermarket products designed by Honda and are a step up from the "Honda Original Parts" products. Not meant to compete with racing produts, however, these peices are quality. means like RACING identity from honda lor. The HAMP filter can be used on any Honda, but was specifically designed for use in the Type-R and S series cars in mind. Features include a unique release valve that dynamically adjusts to the conditions within the filter to keep the oil flow and pressure constant. The HAMP oil filter will last longer and filter better than any of the oil filters currently on the market. therefore it will be recommended to used Hamp if u used fully syn and semi.. if mineral ok la if u want to used OEM oil filter or other cap ayam oil filter..

Honda Hamp USA > Honda Hamp Thai or Toyo Roki Green Hamp from Japan.. u also can differentiate with the price..

actually it was up to us to what kind of oil filter.. u have money u go for good oil filter and fully syn.. if not , mineral and cap ayam oil filter also ok.. the engine still running with no problem but u cant get same performance and long term issues la.. if u are lucky, there is no long term issues..

thats it.. mahu pg makan..
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:17 PM)

Features include a unique release valve that dynamically adjusts to the conditions within the filter to keep the oil flow and pressure constant.
i guess unique release valve means drain back valve rite?



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QUOTE(Kirie @ Jul 5 2011, 09:27 PM)
i guess unique release valve means drain back valve rite?
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kirie.. u are honda part supplier right?
can pm the price? bulk order... proton,perodua,hamp usa, nissan.. possible?
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:30 PM)
kirie.. u are honda part supplier right?
can pm the price? bulk order... proton,perodua,hamp usa, nissan.. possible?
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i dont supply Honda oils, oil filters & air filters sweat.gif

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Brand: Q8 Excel
Oil Type : 5-40 fully Synthetic
Price : RM165
My Thoughts : Excellent durability and revving all through its lifespan. I change my engine oil at 5000 KM. Good cleansing properties and reduce tappet sound (If tappet sound too loud need to go and adjust)
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 4/5

Brand: Sumo Racing R1
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM180
My Thoughts : Was curious of this brand. Engine felt a bit coarser and tappet sounds a bit louder even after adjustment. Smoothness deteriorates at 5000KM mark. Not recommended.
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 3/5

Brand: Mobil 1
Oil Type : 5-50 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM149 (Carrefour) | rm189(bulk buy)
My Thoughts : One of the best oils I have tried. Excellent lubricity and oil break down is very minimal at the 5000km mark as shown by the way it flows when draining the oil. Expensive though. I guess AMG, Porsche and Nissan (GTR) chose this oil as their standard recommended lube based on its excellent performance that I can vouch for.
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 4/5


Brand: Penzoil Platinum
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM135
My Thoughts : One of the best value for money fully synthetic oil on the market. Great cleansing abilities and excellent lubricity. Highly recommended as I've been using this regularlly.
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 4/5


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QUOTE(rush3508 @ Jul 6 2011, 10:50 AM)
Brand: Q8 Excel
Oil Type : 5-40 fully Synthetic
Price : RM165
My Thoughts : Excellent durability and revving all through its lifespan. I change my engine oil at 5000 KM. Good cleansing properties and reduce tappet sound (If tappet sound too loud need to go and adjust)
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 4/5

Brand: Sumo Racing R1
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM180
My Thoughts : Was curious of this brand. Engine felt a bit coarser and tappet sounds a bit louder even after adjustment. Smoothness deteriorates at 5000KM mark. Not recommended.
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 3/5

Brand: Mobil 1
Oil Type : 5-50 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM149 (Carrefour) | rm189(bulk buy)
My Thoughts : One of the best oils I have tried. Excellent lubricity and oil break down is very minimal at the 5000km mark as shown by the way it flows when draining the oil. Expensive though. I guess AMG, Porsche and Nissan (GTR) chose this oil as their standard recommended lube based on its excellent performance that I can vouch for.
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 4/5
Brand: Penzoil Platinum
Oil Type : 5-40 Fully Synthetic
Price : RM135
My Thoughts : One of the best value for money fully synthetic oil on the market. Great cleansing abilities and excellent lubricity. Highly recommended as I've been using this regularlly.
Car : Wira 4G15
Rating : 4/5
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wira 4g15 using fully synthethic?
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Just want to share my thoughts,
There is a quick way to find out if the oil quality is really good or not compare to those local cheap blend oil...check the oil for OEM car standard like MB, BMW and so ,,which you will find on Mobil fully sync or Shell fully sync..if people tell you their oil brand is much better dont believe them it wont make your car fly!

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 6 2011, 01:25 PM)
wira 4g15 using fully synthethic?
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Not suitable?
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QUOTE(bryanlee @ Jul 7 2011, 01:58 PM)
Not suitable?
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not.. never once selling fully synthethic to wira 1.5
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 4 2011, 09:09 PM)
Liqui Moly is not on par as castrol fyi.
thats y u dont see this brand join either drag,GT even and etc, workshop also hardly used it, even sparepart shop rarely take this brand.

+ liqui moly 10w40 is API SL
even shell and petronas upgraded to SM already

http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/mediend...2010W-40_EN.pdf


Added on July 4, 2011, 9:10 pm

120 - 280?
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regarding liqui moly , i have seen a few workshops that does conti cars ( bmws especially) that swears by this brand ..
how ah ?


Added on July 7, 2011, 7:33 pmaccording to here :
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbth...&Number=1594599

SL and SM , the difference is in reducing certain antiwear addictive as that might effect the cat-con

and if you refer to here :
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin...p/pc/index.html

and u click on the api folder and select sl and sm, u might notice that the
piston deposit is higher for sm as compared to sl with almost everything else remains the same performance ...
I guess, thats why they say that SM is made for the modern engine, its actually made to ensure that the cat con doesnt get killed . ( though im not sure how since if ur black oil is burning and goes through the exhaust... u should look into fixing it... )

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not.. never once selling fully synthethic to wira 1.5
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by saying all wira cant use/not suitable to use fully syn is inappropriate.. icon_rolleyes.gif

the same goes when saying all Honda blue oil filters are cap ayam, also inappropriate icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 4 2011, 09:09 PM)
Liqui Moly is not on par as castrol fyi.
thats y u dont see this brand join either drag,GT even and etc, workshop also hardly used it, even sparepart shop rarely take this brand.

+ liqui moly 10w40 is API SL
even shell and petronas upgraded to SM already

http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/mediend...2010W-40_EN.pdf


Added on July 4, 2011, 9:10 pm

120 - 280?
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my car 4++k km already.
Liqui moly mos2 10w-40 vs. Shell helix h5 15w-40.
so far, liqui moly really impres me.
Less engine vibration
less engine noise
good fc (finally, 6++km) before 5++km

will try eneos for the next change.

Regarding liqui moly joining with comp, you can google it. Plz dont give wrong info.
Fyi, I'm not liqui moly seller.
Thanks.

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 4 2011, 09:09 PM)
Liqui Moly is not on par as castrol fyi.
thats y u dont see this brand join either drag,GT even and etc, workshop also hardly used it, even sparepart shop rarely take this brand.

+ liqui moly 10w40 is API SL
even shell and petronas upgraded to SM already

http://www.liqui-moly.de/liquimoly/mediend...2010W-40_EN.pdf


Added on July 4, 2011, 9:10 pm

120 - 280?
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And I just so happen to come across this. Fact :

In Germany :
Castrol advertising No.1
Liqui Moly quality No. 1
Castrol quality IDK
Liqui Moly quality, not to be asked.

Thanks xphr34k for the review


Through my experience, there is a reason I sell liqui moly's MOS2 Semi Synthetic Oils and Qmax Fully Synthetic oils, not Liqui Moly's Fully Synthetic nor Qmax's Semi Synthetic. And for that matter, I sell no other brands of oils
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Guys,
What do you understand per diagram below?

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in a glance, i thought as higher piston deposits for sm.
but after studying it . i think it meant less piston deposits. .

which also means, sl oils has anti-wear protection...

i read it differently last nite. and for that i stand corrected, and i apologize.

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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jul 8 2011, 09:52 AM)
Guys,
What do you understand per diagram below?

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where do u get this?
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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Jul 8 2011, 10:08 AM)
in a glance, i thought as higher piston deposits for  sm.
but after studying it . i think it meant less piston deposits.  .

which also means, sl oils has anti-wear protection...

i read it differently last nite. and for that i stand corrected, and i apologize.
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i also confused about the diagram.
anyway thanks for your clarifications.


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where do u get this?
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Someone posted the link on the previous posts (page 7).
Here mate : http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin...p/pc/index.html
TQ.

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http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin...p/pc/index.html

looks like SM is far better than SL.

do the SM and SL saparately.. because SL on that picture 'bertindih' with SM at the back..

SM is great

if im not mistaken.. oxidation mean that how hard the oil from yellow to turn black

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Just wanna get to know more about engine oil. rclxms.gif

Previously I was using Mobil Super 2000 10w-40 on my LMST.
Quite smooth for the engine. thumbup.gif

But that was before I switched to service at Proton Edar SC due to some maintenance need to be done at SC.
Then, Petronas Syntium 800 10w-40, previously was 15w-50. But they told me that 15w-50 was replaced by 10w-40.

And now I'm thinking of switching to Shell Helix HX7 10w-40. Any advice? icon_rolleyes.gif

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justhao, all the oils above are good enough for your daily use smile.gif Since all of the oils you use are semi's, why don you switch to a fully syn? wink.gif
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nothing will beat Shell and Total, these 2 are the BEST
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nothing will beat Shell and Total, these 2 are the BEST
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the best are not mainstream.
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Last 3 weeks I changed my engine oil (was on Idemitsu 10-40 semi) to Voltronic 10-40 (semi as well, but SM grade). Took it for a long drive from Penang to Kuala Trengganu a few days later. I must say, the engine was much smoother, Rev's easier and much quieter.

On a stretch of good road towards Merang, I was doing 100 and I didn't even know it! So this oil is going into my books for sure.

Fuel consumption remained the same. 6.7l/100km. Did 827km on 55 liters ferrying 4 persons and a boot full of dive gears.

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QUOTE(egiewan @ Aug 18 2011, 09:23 AM)
justhao, all the oils above are good enough for your daily use smile.gif Since all of the oils you use are semi's, why don you switch to a fully syn? wink.gif
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hmm... I thought normal car not ngam fully syn oil? blink.gif
Just wanna get some reviews on Shell Helix HX7. rclxms.gif
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I'm going for service fro 10,000km for my Saga FL (MT), which oil should i choose? i always drive highway, 70% highway 30% city, any recommend?
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try using chemlube semi synthetic ..very smooth ester lube ...very quiet..i use on my wira...and fully synthetic Bardahl for RM 90 best value for money
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QUOTE(jobneed @ Aug 19 2011, 10:34 AM)
I'm going for service fro 10,000km for my Saga FL (MT), which oil should i choose? i always drive highway, 70% highway 30% city, any recommend?
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U send the SC right? They probably will used petronas
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Aug 19 2011, 11:03 AM)
U send the SC right? They probably will used petronas
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can request for 5w-40?
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Any feedback of Royal purple motor oil 10W40 from saga LMST user ????
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Chemlube 5W-30 full syn is a good to invest your RM on.
contains ester.

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Castrol 10-60 .........all fluids changed annually regardless of mileage for 1997 CBU Nissan Sentra B14 with GA16DE engine.

With regards to the extreme nature (ok maybe not Sahara desert extreme) I have never found a need to use the 0 grade oils.

Why cant the market bring in more 10-60 grade to bring the price down ?

Sorry, I am impartial to Castrol because from a price = performance stand point......nothing comes close. I tested the the big brands and always fell back to Castrol. Worst experience I had was with @hell EO's in the C22s (mineral), Sentras (Semi Syn) and Merc's (full Syn). Got brainwashed by salesman (weak because of the overtimes) Burnt one of the C22 engines. In the Sentra I could hear piston slap.

No I dun work for petrochem industry or own any business related to petrocheimicals. I service all the petrochemical factories based here in Malaysia only (worker bee).


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Using semi synthetic 10W30 Toyota genuine engine oil for my G spec 09' and warranty going to end soon ~ any recommended engine oil which can further improve the FC and engine performance?

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any1 using mobil 1 fully syn???any commend and what the price range?
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QUOTE(iLegend @ Aug 20 2011, 02:46 PM)
Using semi synthetic 10W30 Toyota genuine engine oil for my G spec 09' and warranty going to end soon ~ any recommended engine oil which can further improve the FC and engine performance?
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budget? semi syn budget? try look for Xw-30 oil.
QUOTE(JeFf_90 @ Aug 20 2011, 10:29 PM)
any1 using mobil 1 fully syn???any commend and what the price range?
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good group IV oil especially the 0w-40. pricing around rm2xx+
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QUOTE(iLegend @ Aug 20 2011, 02:46 PM)
Using semi synthetic 10W30 Toyota genuine engine oil for my G spec 09' and warranty going to end soon ~ any recommended engine oil which can further improve the FC and engine performance?
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Try eneos proracing 5w40 or torco sr1. Really nice.
Eneos have new free gift, torch light 4 in 1. Very2 limited. Only during this raya period.


Added on August 21, 2011, 3:05 pm
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can request for 5w-40?
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They service ur car every 5k km. They will used semi or mineral. If u want to used fully, u need to pat extra. U can buy oil from outside but cannot bring ur own oil filter.

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Aug 21 2011, 03:01 PM)
Try eneos proracing  5w40 or torco sr1. Really nice.
Eneos have new free gift, torch light 4 in 1. Very2 limited. Only during this raya period.


Added on August 21, 2011, 3:05 pm

They service ur car every 5k km. They will used semi or mineral. If u want to used fully, u need to pat extra. U can buy oil from outside but cannot bring ur own oil filter.
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so my coming next 10k km SC let the dealer decide right? because my father told me at 15k km service, choose 10w40 for saga fl but i heard people say 5w40 is better. coz i always travel high way, want a higher fc
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heard tht shell coming out with new engine oils?
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Aug 21 2011, 04:50 PM)
heard tht shell coming out with new engine oils?
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yup, Shell Helix HX-7E 5w-30
its semi synthetic.
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so will we be expectin cheap new Hx7 in hypermarts soon ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Aug 21 2011, 08:56 PM)
so will we be expectin cheap new Hx7 in hypermarts soon ? tongue.gif
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i like ferrari team and i try shell 3 years before.. loss power, engine sound very loud, heard tappet sound.
after that i banned shell to pour into my engine..


Added on August 22, 2011, 10:15 amuser posted image

Eneos 4 in 1 torch light limited edition (only during raya season). Free gift when u buy eneos 5w30,5w40 or 0w50 with oil filter only.
Stock ready Thanks!

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[quote=ulet,Aug 21 2011, 11:23 AM]
budget? semi syn budget? try look for Xw-30 oil.


[quote=gagak_84,Aug 21 2011, 03:01 PM]
Try eneos proracing 5w40 or torco sr1. Really nice.
Eneos have new free gift, torch light 4 in 1. Very2 limited. Only during this raya period.


Added on August 21, 2011, 3:05 pm

Budget around RM150 ~ Want to try out full synthetic engine oil to see whether the performance gained justify the price difference or not smile.gif
Still got 8000km to go before next service ~ will probably try out gagak's ENEOS proracing ~
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[quote=iLegend,Aug 23 2011, 04:15 PM]
[quote=ulet,Aug 21 2011, 11:23 AM]
budget? semi syn budget? try look for Xw-30 oil.
[quote=gagak_84,Aug 21 2011, 03:01 PM]
Try eneos proracing 5w40 or torco sr1. Really nice.
Eneos have new free gift, torch light 4 in 1. Very2 limited. Only during this raya period.


Added on August 21, 2011, 3:05 pm

Budget around RM150 ~ Want to try out full synthetic engine oil to see whether the performance gained justify the price difference or not smile.gif
Still got 8000km to go before next service ~ will probably try out gagak's ENEOS proracing ~
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alrite.. sms me when u want it k.. but the torch light free gift only during this raya period.
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alrite.. sms me when u want it k.. but the torch light free gift only during this raya period.
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No prob smile.gif Bookmarked the page d XD
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can someone tell me what they think about the Motul H-tech series?
Quite cheap for a motul oil really. RM175+ for fully syn.

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what do u guys think about SUMO oil... Japanese performance engine oil.. tongue.gif

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SUMO ENGINE OIL FOR SALE



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QUOTE(iLegend @ Aug 20 2011, 02:46 PM)
Using semi synthetic 10W30 Toyota genuine engine oil for my G spec 09' and warranty going to end soon ~ any recommended engine oil which can further improve the FC and engine performance?
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An oil supplier should not recommend you his oils before asking for your requirements and driving habit and budgets.

Depends, you can go for semi syn if you're on a budget and not an everyday-high-rev kinda person. Else, go for fully or one's that's ester based.
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Don't know if it's only me, but I don't really feel the difference between a mineral 20W-50 and a fully syn 5W-30, engine response wise.

I just buy it for protection only.


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:07 pm
QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 8 2011, 11:44 AM)
http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin...p/pc/index.html

looks like SM is far better than SL.

do the SM and SL saparately.. because SL on that picture 'bertindih' with SM at the back..

SM is great

if im not mistaken.. oxidation mean that how hard the oil from yellow to turn black
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SM is definitely better than SL, but those engine oil with SL doesn't mean its worse than those with SM. It might be due to the case when the engine oil was formulated, the SM standard was not here yet.


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:08 pm
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An oil supplier should not recommend you his oils before asking for your requirements and driving habit and budgets.

Depends, you can go for semi syn if you're on a budget and not an everyday-high-rev kinda person. Else, go for fully or one's that's ester based.
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What do you think of Chemlube?

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Just use Bardahl la.. the cheapest less than RM100 can get for Fully syn 5W/40 for 4 litres. Merc also using this
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im thinking of using all pennzoil oils. any opinion?
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I'm driving a Waja Campro Auto 2006.

Engine Oil:Honda Vtec Semi 4L
Type:10w-40
Price:Rm75

Pros-
1.Better pickup and easier to reach top speed.(190km/h)
2.Cheap.
3.Engine feel smother and quieter.
Cons-
1.I don't drive a VTEC(huhu)

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QUOTE(GEFORCEXTREME @ Sep 2 2011, 11:04 PM)
Don't know if it's only me, but I don't really feel the difference between a mineral 20W-50 and a fully syn 5W-30, engine response wise.

I just buy it for protection only.


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:07 pm

SM is definitely better than SL, but those engine oil with SL doesn't mean its worse than those with SM. It might be due to the case when the engine oil was formulated, the SM standard was not here yet.


Added on September 2, 2011, 11:08 pm

What do you think of Chemlube?
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Any1 use paco brand of engine oil? Previously was the infamous conoco brand of engine oil. Any review?
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Paco? Like a/c brand
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Whats a/c? Got a friend recommended the use of this oil but no idea how good it is. Any1 heard of it or used it before?
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A/c = aircond brand like paco and patco
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lol never heard this paco brand before.
Btw, no review on mobil 1 ah?

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MOBIL 1 is good...

but it evaporates la...used to use it on my B16A last time... almost nightly drags....and after 10k km... theres only about half left...

got one time after a track day it evaporated until almost finished... had to top up about 3 litres of oil

only happened with mobil 1... other engine oil i used on my B16A didnt have the problem
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 5 2011, 11:41 PM)
MOBIL 1 is good...

but it evaporates la...used to use it on my B16A last time... almost nightly drags....and after 10k km... theres only about half left...

got one time after a track day it evaporated until almost finished... had to top up about 3 litres of oil

only happened with mobil 1... other engine oil i used on my B16A didnt have the problem
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ah...that's good for heavy street application then because i hardly reach 10k in 6 months despite on and off hilly runs.
but that one time after track day, kinda scary...
Anw, good in what way? cleaning the engine/ protection?

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light n smooth...

engine revved happily
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Mobil is good!
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TESCO is selling Castrol Magnatec10W40 Semi Synthetic @ RM89.90
Valid from 8 to 21 Sept.
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instead of buying that oil from the hypermarket, why not top up another RM25.00 to get a much better oil which gives superb protection, not taking any risk? That is.. if budget permits la. Still within budget if you guys wanna compare to paying RM160-230 for fully synthetic oils
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Sep 10 2011, 10:28 PM)
instead of buying that oil from the hypermarket, why not top up another RM25.00 to get a much better oil which gives superb protection, not taking any risk? That is.. if budget permits la. Still within budget if you guys wanna compare to paying RM160-230 for fully synthetic oils
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RM160 and RM89.90 is a huge RM70 gap leh, how come you say top up RM25?
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Better buy castrol magnatec at jusco instead bro. Rm125 sncf , same packaging and quality as malaysian market.
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using castro magnetic 10-40w bought from carefour , so far so good biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sctan1986 @ Sep 10 2011, 10:58 PM)
using castro magnetic 10-40w bought from carefour , so far so good biggrin.gif
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How much? Sncf castrol magnatec?
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RM 79.90, i think its the same smile.gif

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QUOTE(sctan1986 @ Sep 10 2011, 11:26 PM)
RM 79.90, i think its the same smile.gif
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79.90 for SNCF castrol magnatec. Last time i check tesco, carrefour packaging and grade is not the same as local market. Jusco paxkaging is exactly the same and SNCF 10w40 castrol magnatec rm125.


Added on September 11, 2011, 12:16 amBest gradr is 10w30 or 5w30. Avoid buy from sparepartshop . Buy from authorize dealer or supermarket

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Mangkuk lah, kat eu, semi syn is still sl graded. Nothing wrong with the oils lah...
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QUOTE(ultramaman @ Sep 11 2011, 12:27 AM)
Mangkuk lah, kat eu, semi syn is still sl graded. Nothing wrong with the oils lah...
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Huhu.
Bro, no problem actuallt if we want to used sgcf also.especially when we used recycle oil, engine will not ko. That is y many sparepartshop take this recyclw oil. Cheap + x rosak lor.

Never been to uk .sure all slcf?
Hehehe
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I have been using Valvoline Premium Blue 15w-40 ...
OCI 10000km..........smoooothhhhhhhhhhh
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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 10 2011, 11:48 PM)
any idea for a perodua kelisa 1L car, what is the best for me? Im auto though
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mineral oil is more than enough for the kelisa..

i owned a kelisa for 7 years and i only used fully syn once...every other time i used mineral oils...watever brand the workshop has.. didnt really matter... car ran smooth and had no issues watsoever...

only thing is to make sure u change every 5k km...max oso 7k.
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wonder why Eneos 20w50 can sell at such low price...RM50 nia...API SM wor...
Esso/BHP/Caltex/Castrol 20w50 are still at API SG/CD, selling at RM55-65.
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Sep 10 2011, 10:44 PM)
RM160 and RM89.90 is a huge RM70 gap leh, how come you say top up RM25?
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sorry my bad, castrol magnatec RM79.90, wht I meant is that you top up RM25.00 and you still can go for a much better SEMI SYNTHETIC such as LiquiMoly's 10w30 or 10w40(yes, PROVEN) which actually gives you the kind of protection you need.

And as per mentioned in earlier post, it's still within budget COMPARING to going for oils that are RM160-200 which falls into the fully synth category.

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Sep 11 2011, 01:08 PM)
sorry my bad, castrol magnatec RM79.90, wht I meant is that you top up RM25.00 and you still can go for a much better SEMI SYNTHETIC such as LiquiMoly's 10w30 or 10w40(yes, PROVEN) which actually gives you the kind of protection you need.

And as per mentioned in earlier post, it's still within budget COMPARING to going for oils that are RM160-200 which falls into the fully synth category.
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this sounds to me like "since you got budget to buy Forte, why not top up a bit to buy Altis; then, since you got budget to buy Altis, why not top up a bit to buy Sonata?", and so on...
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Keyword : Comparing. Since you got budget, top up. If no budget, retain.

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Sep 11 2011, 04:46 AM)
wonder why Eneos 20w50 can sell at such low price...RM50 nia...API SM wor...
Esso/BHP/Caltex/Castrol 20w50 are still at API SG/CD, selling at RM55-65.
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Market price is rm70. Some salesman willibg to cut their incone just to make sure they reach the target + contribution to society. Hahaha.
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 11 2011, 01:12 AM)
Huhu.
Bro, no problem actuallt if we want to used sgcf also.especially when we used recycle oil, engine will not ko. That is y many sparepartshop take this recyclw oil. Cheap + x rosak lor.

Never been to uk .sure all slcf?
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Go check online... Semi syn jorang sl graded..

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any taiko here used caltex havoline oil ? biggrin.gif

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any taiko here used caltex havoline oil ? biggrin.gif
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Caltex Delo 400 15w-40 more smooth,can clean ur engine and can save fuel up to 15% smile.gif
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QUOTE(han_cake5369 @ Sep 11 2011, 11:24 PM)
Caltex Delo 400 15w-40 more smooth,can clean ur engine and can save fuel up to 15% smile.gif
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i tot delo is for diesel engine?  hmm.gif
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DELO 400 SPEC

API CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF, CD (FOR DIESEL ENGINE)
API SL, SJ, SH (FOR GASOLINE ENGINE) rclxm9.gif
ACEA E7-04, E5-02, E3-96.
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Volvo VDS-3, VDS-2
Mercedes-Benz 228.3
MAN M 3275, 271
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SAE Grade 15W-40
Density at 15°C, kg/L 0.886
Base No., D2896, mg KOH/g 12.2
Base No., D4739, mg KOH/g 10.0
Sulfated Ash, %m 1.4
Flash Point °C 230
Pour Point °C -33
Viscosity, cSt at 40°C 125
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Sep 11 2011, 04:43 AM)
mineral oil is more than enough for the kelisa..

i owned a kelisa for 7 years and i only used fully syn once...every other time i used mineral oils...watever brand the workshop has.. didnt really matter... car ran smooth and had no issues watsoever...

only thing is to make sure u change every 5k km...max oso 7k.
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Ive been using semi and fully synt for my kelisa...lets say I just love my tiny rat....for a 1L...the speed is good to abuse...haha. But which brand you'd recommend...cuz if i were to match my petrol and the engine oil....some say it does not optimize it. I pump Shell 95 cuz it somehow gives good mileage...though its a pity i cant pump 97 like last time. Ive tried Mobil semi synth 10 40. Its ok, but review from others say mobil uses recycled. Then Im now using Petronas semi 10 40. Both were ok...but to really pamper my car, what's your opinion? Of cuz dun give me option that pampers until my pocket kena slaughter tq...=P

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my favourite brand of engine oil has always been pennzoil... especially the fully syn ones.. u could try that brand if ud like...

as for petrol...ive tried ron95 n ron 97 in my ex-kelisa... full tank the 97 is about RM10 more only..but i gained a significant amount of mileage with it....
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QUOTE(FatalitY @ Sep 12 2011, 01:56 AM)
Ive been using semi and fully synt for my kelisa...lets say I just love my tiny rat....for a 1L...the speed is good to abuse...haha. But which brand you'd recommend...cuz if i were to match my petrol and the engine oil....some say it does not optimize it. I pump Shell 95 cuz it somehow gives good mileage...though its a pity i cant pump 97 like last time. Ive tried Mobil semi synth 10 40. Its ok, but review from others say mobil uses recycled. Then Im now using Petronas semi 10 40. Both were ok...but to really pamper my car, what's your opinion? Of cuz dun give me option that pampers until my pocket kena slaughter tq...=P
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If you've tried mobil, I'd suggest u give liqui moly or at least pennzoil platinum a try. its worth it
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Sep 11 2011, 01:08 PM)
sorry my bad, castrol magnatec RM79.90, wht I meant is that you top up RM25.00 and you still can go for a much better SEMI SYNTHETIC such as LiquiMoly's 10w30 or 10w40(yes, PROVEN) which actually gives you the kind of protection you need.

And as per mentioned in earlier post, it's still within budget COMPARING to going for oils that are RM160-200 which falls into the fully synth category.
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then might as well get Pennzoil Platinum fully synthetic... around rm115 je
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If you've tried mobil, I'd suggest u give liqui moly or at least pennzoil platinum a try. its worth it
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Seeing tht my mileage coming soon, will give it a try. Juz worried if the shop use recycled oil. Wats the price?
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Wad oil shud i use for my 2001 kancil 850cc? is castrol m-tech ok?
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QUOTE(ulet @ Sep 12 2011, 08:03 PM)
then might as well get Pennzoil Platinum fully synthetic... around rm115 je
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And what does pennzoil platinum has in its oil that makes it good?
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Sep 13 2011, 12:44 AM)
And what does pennzoil platinum has in its oil that makes it good?
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at least i know pennzoil platinum certified
5w-30
API SM/CF.
ILSAC GF-4.
ACEA A3/B3-04.
ACEA A3/B4-04.
ACEA C3-04.
ACEA C3-07.
MB p229.31.
VW 502 00/505 00.
BMW Longlife-04.

5w-40
API SM/CF.
ACEA A3/ B3-04.
ACEA A3/ B4-04.
ACEA C3-04.
ACEA C3-07.
BMW Longlife-04.
MB p229.31.
PORSCHE.
VW 502 00/505 00.


while liqui moly MoS2 Leichtlauf 10W-40 only certified for
API SL/CF
ACEA A3-04/B4-04

info on Pennzoil Malaysia
info on liqui moly

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since i cant find any thread related to engine oil reviews, let me start 1 shall we guys?
i hope with this thread more drivers will use appropriate oils towards their engine capability respectively.

posting example:

brand: petronas syntium
group: 3
model:10 w40
price:95bucks
feedback: below average. nothing to shout out bout it
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i wonder what make u think that syntium is below average....

I used syntium, penzoil, eneos, shell, mobil before....

all is also around 5/10 w40

the best is mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos. (all also semi oil only)

mobil keep my engine very smooth and quiet.

syntium keep my engine able to run in high rpm and less noise too.

shell smooth, less noise but cause my FC become high

pennzoil a bit noisy (maybe coz by the cleaning formula to remove engine carbon?), but good pickup

eneos is the worst for me ... run 3k km tat time is very nice. after 4k km, engine become very very loud sound and FC high.

thus, I truly doubt on your commend unless you try to compare it with others engine oil.

if you feel that syntium is not good. I would suggest you use M7, Q8, liqui moly, HKS, ELF, amsoil (with high grade). that might be able to satisfy you
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QUOTE(overclocker @ Sep 13 2011, 11:18 AM)
i wonder what make u think that syntium is below average....

I used syntium, penzoil, eneos, shell, mobil before....

all is also around 5/10 w40

the best is mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos. (all also semi oil only)

mobil keep my engine very smooth and quiet.

syntium keep my engine able to run in high rpm and less noise too.

shell smooth, less noise but cause my FC become high

pennzoil a bit noisy (maybe coz by the cleaning formula to remove engine carbon?), but good pickup

eneos is the worst for me ... run 3k km tat time is very nice. after 4k km, engine become very very loud sound and FC high.

thus, I truly doubt on your commend unless you try to compare it with others engine oil.

if you feel that syntium is not good. I would suggest you use M7, Q8, liqui moly, HKS, ELF, amsoil (with high grade). that might be able to satisfy you
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already used a lot of brand for new BLM ? mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos.?

for me i used original mitsubishi oil filter with ENEOS 10w40 Racing Moly.. mitsu ori oil filter is VERY good filteration.. 5,000km my engine oil still yellow and still can lenjan up to 190km/h, engine still smooth, no teppet sound ( common problem for proton and mitsu engine).. for me syntium is the worse even most of the kaki racing guy that i know are not using petronas engine oil and shell.

FYI : there is no more ELF in the market, change to TOTAL.
for my experience and racing friends..

Torco, Q8, Amsoil, Penzoil, Mobil, Eneos , Sumo , M7, Torqnm, Redline, Royal Purple, Lucas, Liqui Moly, Castrol
Other than this like JTX, Wurth, Syntium, Shell, ELF is not on the same level..

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anyone use this?? any review so far? im planning to change this on my atos...

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QUOTE(overclocker @ Sep 13 2011, 11:18 AM)
i wonder what make u think that syntium is below average....

I used syntium, penzoil, eneos, shell, mobil before....

all is also around 5/10 w40

the best is mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos. (all also semi oil only)

mobil keep my engine very smooth and quiet.

syntium keep my engine able to run in high rpm and less noise too.

shell smooth, less noise but cause my FC become high

pennzoil a bit noisy (maybe coz by the cleaning formula to remove engine carbon?), but good pickup

eneos is the worst for me ... run 3k km tat time is very nice. after 4k km, engine become very very loud sound and FC high.

thus, I truly doubt on your commend unless you try to compare it with others engine oil.

if you feel that syntium is not good. I would suggest you use M7, Q8, liqui moly, HKS, ELF, amsoil (with high grade). that might be able to satisfy you
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 14 2011, 12:32 AM)
already used a lot of brand for new BLM ? mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos.?

for me i used original mitsubishi oil filter with ENEOS 10w40 Racing Moly.. mitsu ori oil filter is VERY good filteration.. 5,000km my engine oil still yellow and still can lenjan up to 190km/h, engine still smooth, no teppet sound ( common problem for proton and mitsu engine).. for me syntium is the worse even most of the kaki racing guy that i know are not using petronas engine oil and shell.

FYI : there is no more ELF in the market, change to TOTAL.
for my experience and racing friends..

Torco, Q8, Amsoil, Penzoil, Mobil, Eneos , Sumo , M7, Torqnm, Redline, Royal Purple, Lucas, Liqui Moly, Castrol
Other than  this like JTX, Wurth, Syntium, Shell, ELF is not on the same level..
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so to say the oil doesn't clean the engine by carrying dirt out of the components? I see i see


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QUOTE(ulet @ Sep 13 2011, 10:15 AM)
at least i know pennzoil platinum certified
    5w-30
    API SM/CF.
    ILSAC GF-4.
    ACEA A3/B3-04.
    ACEA A3/B4-04.
    ACEA C3-04.
    ACEA C3-07.
    MB p229.31.
    VW 502 00/505 00.
    BMW Longlife-04.

    5w-40
    API SM/CF.
    ACEA A3/ B3-04.
    ACEA A3/ B4-04.
    ACEA C3-04.
    ACEA C3-07.
    BMW Longlife-04.
    MB p229.31.
    PORSCHE.
    VW 502 00/505 00.


while liqui moly MoS2 Leichtlauf 10W-40 only certified for
API SL/CF
ACEA A3-04/B4-04

info on Pennzoil Malaysia
info on liqui moly
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I also heard that pennzoil cleans the engine well if used long term mate. Meeting and getting certified by API is one thing, exceeding their requirements and specification is another different story

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real life experience with pennzoil about 15 years ago. but with 2 stroke bikes..and their high end 2T oil (RM12/L at the time)

if any of you know wat servicing a 2 stroke bike is like, ull know that ull have to remove the head and clean out the carbon build up. usually with sandpaper and petrol.

the workshop i used to go to had a brand new 2stroke kapchai bike for their dispatch use...before the bike even started they drained out all oils...and replaced them with pennzoil 4T and 2T oils...after the 1000km run in, they removed the head..the carbon was so little.. they just dipped a cloth in some petrol, wrapped it around their finger and gave one...i repeat just ONE stroke on the carbon and thats it. the same thing went on up til the 3rd n 4th service.. after that i dunno already, never kept track.

but after i saw that, i switched to pennzoil. had the almost the same results. carbon build up was just alil more than the workshop's bike. previously i was using motul oils.. and the carbon build up with their 2T was quite bad... not just black carbon...but also white carbon.

the pennzoil 4T oso gave me a smoother engine.. ever since then ive been a beliver in pennzoils..

recommended the fully syn to a friend who used it on his MIVEC 1.8... he loved it.. said the engine was so smooth and rev happy. i also used it on my ex-B16A...same results.. would love to use it for my current B20B... just dunno where to buy in my area and how much sad.gif
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What car do you drive? A fren of mine had a pretty bad experience with Redline's MT-90 on his Version 8 STI Impreza. After awhile he said shifting the gearbox feels like moving a really heavy stone laugh.gif After a few days he changed to Motul's 90PA and it was alot better. Same like you...like night and day but the other way around hahaha laugh.gif
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because your friend are using wrong oil at the 1st place, STI should use 75W90NS or shockproof series.

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so to say the oil doesn't clean the engine by carrying dirt out of the components? I see i see


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I also heard that pennzoil cleans the engine well if used long term mate. Meeting and getting certified by API is one thing, exceeding their requirements and specification is another different story
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Not really, turn yellow and my engine is still running clean very smooth, black engine oil is caused by combustion soot or carbon. Most of it exit thru exhaust system, and when engine oil still like new, it can run more km, if turn black the performance of engine oil reduce significantly.

Some of the otai, said that the black substance from the oil is caused by cleaning agent from the engine oil, but thw performance will be reduce significantly. Good enginw oil :
- still yellow and performance still gret
- most soot from combustion is not absorb by engine oil but pass thru exhaust to maintain cleanliness of the engine.


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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 18 2011, 01:27 PM)
Not really, turn yellow and my engine is still running clean very smooth, black engine oil is caused by combustion soot or carbon. Most of it exit thru exhaust system, and when engine oil still like new, it can run more km, if turn black the performance of engine oil reduce significantly.

Some of the otai, said that the black substance from the oil is caused by cleaning agent from the engine oil, but thw performance will be reduce significantly. Good enginw oil :
- still yellow and performance still gret
- most soot from combustion is not absorb by engine oil but pass thru exhaust to maintain cleanliness of the engine.
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The colour of the engine oil after usage is determined by the condition of the piston rings. Worn out piston rings will allow blow-by from the combustion chamber into the engine. This will dirty any engine oil, including the ones you are selling. Put your engine oil into an old car and you will see that effect.

There are 2 types of dark engine oil that comes out of the engine. A good condition engine will still produce dark coloured oil at the end of the service interval but that is only due to dirt suspended in the engine oil. The oil still feels like oil. However, if a bad engine oil is used it will not only come out black but it will come out like sludge. The oil feels like watery gum.

As long as there's no sludging and the oil consistency has not changed, the colour of the oil will not reduce the performance of the oil unless you have a really bad case of blow-by which will turn the engine oil black within the first 1000km. That would be an engine problem and not oil problem.

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i just used mobil 1 5W-50 fully syn for my inspira's 4b11. sounds so much better and not as harsh as it was on petronas syn800.

morning starts is where the mobil1 fully syn shines, very smooth and dont have to maintain at high rev during idle, unlike the syn800, loud and takes a long time to stabilise

it really makes the syn800 feels like crap. but again, the price is almost double, so it is hard to compare.
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how about mazda 2?? wat model of engine oil and wat brand recommended??
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how about mazda 2?? wat model of engine oil and wat brand recommended??
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any ideas on what is good for Proton BLM 1.3 Auto?..
current shell 40W ..feels draggy..
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ahaha...ayam just serviced...onli use chepo oil/not feymes brand since ayam student...no drop performance at all...normal...smile.gif

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I just used Liqui Moly Synthoil High Tech 5 W-40 Fully-synthetic today dint have much to say because haven't test it all out yet. What i can say is my engine less noise then before. . . But it seems take longer time to start, before this just about 1sec, now around 2sec.. or maybe it just my feeling.. . .

BTW i got question, i got some ppl saying that Liqui Moly oil product for our country (M'sia) is just rebranding from other brand oil IS THAT TRUE? source just from normal chit-chat in FB~

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OIL CHANGE at 5k interval..

BTW is it ok if i change oil at 15k since for fully-syns the interval change around 10km right? But how about other minor service on the 10km service?

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QUOTE(kambing69 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:27 AM)
I just used Liqui Moly  Synthoil High Tech 5 W-40 Fully-synthetic today dint have much to say because haven't test it all out yet. What i can say is my engine less noise then before. . . But it seems take longer time to start, before this just about 1sec, now around 2sec.. or maybe it just my feeling.. . .

BTW i got question, i got some ppl saying that Liqui Moly oil product for our country (M'sia) is just rebranding from other brand oil IS THAT TRUE? source just from normal chit-chat in FB~

CAR SNR3 - Campro CPS
OIL CHANGE at 5k interval..

BTW is it ok if i change oil at 15k since for fully-syns the interval change around 10km right? But how about other minor service on the 10km service?
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you can do the minor servicing/checkups on 5k km, oil change keep it at 10k km/3 months dont drag it to 15k km
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2011, 09:21 AM)
you can do the minor servicing/checkups on 5k km, oil change keep it at 10k km/3 months dont drag it to 15k km
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What do mean dont drag it to 15km? my total now is 5km, so in next 5km its 10km already, services it here or just regular checkup but not oil change. next 5 km would be 15km then i should change oil... is that what you mean?
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QUOTE(kambing69 @ Sep 21 2011, 11:30 AM)
What do mean dont drag it to 15km? my total now is 5km, so in next 5km its 10km already, services it here or just regular checkup but not oil change. next 5 km would be 15km then i should change oil... is that what you mean?
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um, yes i guess? ill assume you on new meter/car then.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2011, 11:44 AM)
um, yes i guess? ill assume you on new meter/car then.
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I have been using Valvoline Premium Blue 15w-40 for the second time. OCI is 10000km. My Wira 1.5 feel lighter and quieter when using Premium Blue for the first 5000km rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(han_cake5369 @ Oct 8 2011, 07:37 PM)
I have been using Valvoline Premium Blue 15w-40 for the second time. OCI is 10000km. My Wira 1.5 feel lighter and quieter when using Premium Blue for the first 5000km rclxms.gif

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hi boss, mind to share where u buy the engine oil, and how much? thanks
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QUOTE(han_cake5369 @ Oct 8 2011, 07:37 PM)
I have been using Valvoline Premium Blue 15w-40 for the second time. OCI is 10000km. My Wira 1.5 feel lighter and quieter when using Premium Blue for the first 5000km rclxms.gif

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diesel on your wira? am i missing out something here? lol
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diesel on your wira? am i missing out something here? lol
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 8 2011, 09:33 PM)
diesel on your wira? am i missing out something here? lol
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Valvoline Premium Blue was engine oil with API CI-4/SL spec

API CI-4 for diesel engine and
API SL for gasoline engine..

This ENGINE OIL for Motorcycle, Car, Truck, Bus and Ship but not for spaceship... biggrin.gif

below are tech data sheet for Valvoline Premium Blue

See this Tech Data Sheet

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QUOTE(kambing69 @ Sep 21 2011, 02:27 AM)
I just used Liqui Moly  Synthoil High Tech 5 W-40 Fully-synthetic today dint have much to say because haven't test it all out yet. What i can say is my engine less noise then before. . . But it seems take longer time to start, before this just about 1sec, now around 2sec.. or maybe it just my feeling.. . .

BTW i got question, i got some ppl saying that Liqui Moly oil product for our country (M'sia) is just rebranding from other brand oil IS THAT TRUE? source just from normal chit-chat in FB~

CAR SNR3 - Campro CPS
OIL CHANGE at 5k interval..

BTW is it ok if i change oil at 15k since for fully-syns the interval change around 10km right? But how about other minor service on the 10km service?
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we misread as changing your oil only EVERY 15k that gave quazacolt a scare for a moment there. Since you change every 5k, I'd suggest you to try the LM MOS2 10w40 which has better additives than the Synthoil. Tested personally


Added on October 8, 2011, 10:24 pmvalvoline mineral at RM75? Must be a good oil i reckon

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 8 2011, 10:23 PM)
we misread as changing your oil only EVERY 15k that gave quazacolt a scare for a moment there. Since you change every 5k, I'd suggest you to try the LM MOS2 10w40 which has better additives than the Synthoil. Tested personally


Added on October 8, 2011, 10:24 pmvalvoline mineral at RM75? Must be a good oil i reckon
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how many mileage this LM MOS2 10w40 can go?

8k km?

thanks
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how many mileage this LM MOS2 10w40 can go?

8k km?

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semi syn keep it between 5-7k km

feeling rich and/or want more protection for engine, stay with 5k lo tongue.gif
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Should I use semi, fully synthetic oil for my kenari wif ori engine ?
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Should I use semi, fully synthetic oil for my kenari wif ori engine ?
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if still under warranty, follow back what your sc uses.

if out of warranty, at least try for semi syns. and by that, use good semi syns. well worthy investment, and once you tried it, you wont go back to mineral lol.
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if rue rich, use ESTER oils as they're good for the rubber and valve seals as petroleum based engine oils tend to harden the seals up
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if rue rich, use ESTER oils as they're good for the rubber and valve seals as petroleum based engine oils tend to harden the seals up
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like Chemlube? it can last for 40k km as been told by Zenden, but under controlled driving condition la

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oil review. ? im using liqui moly mos2 10/40 . engine feels light and rev happy.
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if pour too much oil how a? my foreman pour more than d max level...zzzzzz
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change foreman. If they can't discipline themselves, or their workers for that matter, whould you expect them to do a better job since they cant even perform a simple task of obeying the F mark on the dipstick?

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Just have my mechanic to drain my Eneos 10w40 oil. Less than 6k and it's dark like coffee, not to mentioned feels heavy and sluggish. After changing to Liqui Moly 10w40, notice the acceleration is somewhat, silky smooth.

Silky should be the word instead of light as I have used eneos 5w30 before. It feels light, but the engine sounds like going to explode.

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Oct 11 2011, 01:04 AM)
Just have my mechanic to drain my Eneos 10w40 oil. Less than 6k and it's dark like coffee, not to mentioned feels heavy and sluggish. After changing to Liqui Moly 10w40, notice the acceleration is somewhat, silky smooth.

Silky should be the word instead of light as I have used eneos 5w30 before. It feels light, but the engine sounds like going to explode.
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hard to compare.
because now the feeling of comparison is with 6k old oil.
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 11 2011, 12:52 AM)
change foreman. If they can't discipline themselves, or their workers for that matter, whould you expect them to do a better job since they cant even perform a simple task of obeying the F mark on the dipstick?

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maybe the dipstick dont have F mark..

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Oct 11 2011, 01:04 AM)
Just have my mechanic to drain my Eneos 10w40 oil. Less than 6k and it's dark like coffee, not to mentioned feels heavy and sluggish. After changing to Liqui Moly 10w40, notice the acceleration is somewhat, silky smooth.

Silky should be the word instead of light as I have used eneos 5w30 before. It feels light, but the engine sounds like going to explode.
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Good to hear that wink.gif. Thanks for the feedback andy.



QUOTE(ulet @ Oct 11 2011, 07:59 AM)
hard to compare.
because now the feeling of comparison is with 6k old oil.
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6k is 6k, but a good oil should not deteriorate in quality after 6k, if 7-8k i understand as it's a semi synthetic


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maybe the dipstick dont have F mark..

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Then we should F him
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QUOTE(Kirie @ Oct 8 2011, 10:55 PM)
like Chemlube? it can last for 40k km as been told by Zenden, but under controlled driving condition la
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Oil kept too long, the dirt is being circulated only. Anyway, even the oil can last, the additives will break down.
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Some advice please.

4B11 first 1000km changing to full synthetic the SC gave me choice between Petronas 3000 and a Shell fully Syn.

Which is better? Or should I even go fully at all?

Thanks peeps rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ikeken @ Nov 11 2011, 05:07 PM)
Some advice please.

4B11 first 1000km changing to full synthetic the SC gave me choice between Petronas 3000 and a Shell fully Syn.

Which is better? Or should I even go fully at all?

Thanks peeps  rclxms.gif
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choose low viscosity engine oil.. 5w-20/5w-30/0w-30 if possible because 4b11 are designed to use low viscosity engine oil.
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QUOTE(ikeken @ Nov 11 2011, 05:07 PM)
Some advice please.

4B11 first 1000km changing to full synthetic the SC gave me choice between Petronas 3000 and a Shell fully Syn.

Which is better? Or should I even go fully at all?

Thanks peeps  rclxms.gif
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Follow your car manual oil viscosity recommended......
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I'm using Heavy Duty Engine Oil
No problem until now.
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I'm using Heavy Duty Engine Oil
No problem until now.
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20w-50?
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Question: Has anyone here has tried out any of the engine oil from HKS? If yes, how was it?

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been using Valvoline 15w50 for over a year now on my old Saga. B4 this im using Castrol 20w50 mineral

about the Valvoline, great oil. Can use until 8k km...even approaching 8k the engine still feel smooth. But if got budget it's recommended to change every 5-6k km

this one, around rm120 per 4l bottle
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New saga 1.3 Auto, what engine oil recommend? Before that I use Shell engine oil. Now thinking want to change penzoil oil. Which type I have to change and the price range is?
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New saga 1.3 Auto, what engine oil recommend? Before that I use Shell engine oil. Now thinking want to change penzoil oil. Which type I have to change and the price range is?
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Check your car manual for recommended viscosity.

Other then that the 10w-40 SS should be good....


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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Nov 16 2011, 12:09 PM)
been using Valvoline 15w50 for over a year now on my old Saga. B4 this im using Castrol 20w50 mineral

about the Valvoline, great oil. Can use until 8k km...even approaching 8k the engine still feel smooth. But if got budget it's recommended to change every 5-6k km

this one, around rm120 per 4l bottle
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Not cheap for SS 4L only......

Most SS oil cost around RM100.
Shell SS on offer at Tesco is 5L packing and when promo is only around RM89


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Question: Has anyone here has tried out any of the engine oil from HKS? If yes, how was it?
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Not sure how good they are but they were offering the 10w-38 at RM100 just a while back......

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 16 2011, 01:42 PM)
Check your car manual for recommended viscosity.

Other then that the 10w-40 SS should be good....


Added on November 16, 2011, 1:43 pm
Not cheap for SS 4L only......

Most SS oil cost around RM100.
Shell SS on offer at Tesco is 5L packing and when promo is only around RM89


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Not sure how good they are but they were offering the 10w-38 at RM100 just a while back......
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Thanks for your suggestion vr2turbo.

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 16 2011, 01:42 PM)
Not sure how good they are but they were offering the 10w-38 at RM100 just a while back......
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That's their semi right? How about their fully synthetic? Any idea how they perform? tongue.gif
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Nope, these 10w-38 are FS oil. Don't look at the price of RM100. It was an offer price.
Normal price is way higher...... sad.gif
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Nope, these 10w-38 are FS oil. Don't look at the price of RM100. It was an offer price.
Normal price is way higher...... sad.gif
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blink.gif wow.... seriously, FS at rm100??? is the offer still on? where can i get it? tongue.gif
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It was some sort of anniversary thing that they celebrated. I was shock also to see that, but I did not buy because it was meant more for NA cars, and my other NA car is using SS only.... blush.gif
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 16 2011, 05:41 PM)
It was some sort of anniversary thing that they celebrated. I was shock also to see that, but I did not buy because it was meant more for NA cars, and my other NA car is using SS only....  blush.gif
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cry.gif But for me it would be a different story... mine's a NA car... sad.gif
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QUOTE(rocketeer_ace @ Nov 16 2011, 06:27 PM)
cry.gif But for me it would be a different story... mine's a NA car... sad.gif
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That time did not venture here yet. Next time have offer will post here also...... nod.gif
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Any recommendation for my Wira 1.5 (A) 4G15? smile.gif. I dont even know what grade i need. lol. 5w30?
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Any recommendation for my Wira 1.5 (A) 4G15? smile.gif. I dont even know what grade i need. lol. 5w30?
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How many years?

5w30 might be too thin. 10w40 is a good place to start.
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correct.. 10w40 grade IF u used semi before.. if u already used 15w or 20w50, u can/t used 10w40 anymore.
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If not consuming engine oil can still switch back to SS 10w-40.
My old Sonata was on FS 5w-40, then SS 5w-30, then back to FS 5w-40, now on SS 10w-40
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Nov 18 2011, 10:12 AM)
correct.. 10w40 grade IF u used semi before.. if u already used 15w or 20w50, u can/t used 10w40 anymore.
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Once used 15w-40, cant revert back to 10w-40?
Kenapa?
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 18 2011, 10:32 AM)
If not consuming engine oil can still switch back to SS 10w-40.
My old Sonata was on FS 5w-40, then SS 5w-30, then back to FS 5w-40, now on SS 10w-40
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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Nov 18 2011, 11:13 AM)
Once used 15w-40, cant revert back to 10w-40?
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my car-civic fd1 makan minyak after switch from semi-syn 5w.30 to fully syn 5w-40 at millage 110k km. after 8k running the oil seems like "evaporate" almost 35%.... my friend told me that my car no longer suite for fully syn.. is that true? i had purchase another fully syn to change la.... sad.gif sum said my top gasket start to have minor leak alr... pls advice...
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any review on NASA engine oil? Is it good?
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NASA is locally blend engine oil. Cannot find much detail about them....


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my car-civic fd1 makan minyak after switch from semi-syn 5w.30 to fully syn 5w-40 at millage 110k  km. after 8k running the oil seems like "evaporate" almost 35%.... my friend told me that my car no longer suite for fully syn.. is that true? i had purchase another fully syn to change la.... sad.gif sum said my top gasket start to have minor leak alr... pls advice...
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Quite surprise on this.
I have heard before but those were like using SS 10w-40 changing to FS 0w-30. The usages of lighter viscosity oil in older worn engine then will consume some engine oil, but for you even though going from SS to FS, you went to thicker viscosity therefore should be okay......


Added on November 19, 2011, 3:43 pmCastrol Magnetec 10w-40 on sales at Tesco - RM85.90 for 4L nod.gif

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Can anyone recommend a good engine oil for Iswara LMST (Year 2007).
Currently I'm using PETRONAS Syntium 800 - Semi Syn.
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Q8 Advanced 10w-40 is a good one smile.gif
Or you can try Agip 10w-40 as well, LYN forumer selling quite cheap smile.gif
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Q8 Advanced 10w-40 is a good one smile.gif
Or you can try Agip 10w-40 as well, LYN forumer selling quite cheap smile.gif
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Q8 10w40 is great, i already try it. Rm100 only
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Can anyone recommend a good engine oil for Iswara LMST (Year 2007).
Currently I'm using PETRONAS Syntium 800 - Semi Syn.
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Any branded 10w-40 SS should be okay. Tesco not selling Castrol Magnetec at RM85.90 for 4L
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Q8 Advanced 10w-40 is a good one smile.gif
Or you can try Agip 10w-40 as well, LYN forumer selling quite cheap smile.gif
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Q8 10w40 is great, i already try it. Rm100 only
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If say I'm using Petronas Synthium 800 now and plan to change to Q8 Advance (as suggested by Sifu's tongue.gif), do I need to flush out my engine or just drain and top up like normal engine oil change out?
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Just drain and change as usual......
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Just drain and change as usual......
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Oow...no need to do flushing?

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eh guys.... im looking for the CHEAPEST fully synthetic for B20B VTEC

so far ive found Honda 5w/40 full syn for RM120/4L

anyone knows of any cheaper ones?

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eh guys.... im looking for the CHEAPEST fully synthetic for B20B VTEC

so far ive found Honda 5w/40 full syn for RM120/4L

anyone knows of any cheaper ones?
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Bardahl FS 5w-40 should be RM90 to 95......
Tesco new FS oil, promo price is RM99.90



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those 2 u mentioned... any good?

no plans to use for long..mebbe 3k or max 5k

coz the oil is gonna go through dyno tuning
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Nov 22 2011, 04:16 PM)
Bardahl FS 5w-40 should be RM90 to 95......
Tesco new FS oil, promo price is RM99.90
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Tesco oil is good ? better than pezzoil or eneos o or not "??
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 22 2011, 09:53 PM)
those 2 u mentioned... any good?

no plans to use for long..mebbe 3k or max 5k

coz the oil is gonna go through dyno tuning
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Don't know what you mean by good, but have used many bottles already in my turbo for years. now switch to Blue.Sky from UMW because even cheaper bought from their warehouse sale.
Cheaper FS oil are normally hydro crack mineral oil in Group 3


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Tesco oil is good ? better than pezzoil or eneos o or not "??
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I used Tesco engine oil 20-50w that cost RM33.90. It is not bad.
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I went to Tesco Puchong, same as well.. Out of stock.
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Is anyone hv tried JTX1000 engine oil?
http://jtx1000.blogspot.com/

Sounds good but the API is SL sad.gif

Thanks.
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I went to Tesco Puchong, same as well.. Out of stock.
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Good offer all grab already...... ohmy.gif


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Is anyone hv tried JTX1000 engine oil?
http://jtx1000.blogspot.com/

Sounds good but the API is SL sad.gif

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Nothing much written on this oil, only for Malaysian market?? ohmy.gif

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Engine: 1.6L Campro IAFM - P. Persona.

Brand: Shell Helix HXZ
Oil Type: 10w-40 Semi Synthetic
Price: RM99 per 4L
My Thoughts: Just alright. Engine gets a little lazy as it nears 10k KM.
My rating: 3/5


Brand: Toyota
Oil Type: 10w-30 Semi synthetic
Price: RM91 per 4L
My thoughts: Superb. FC was better, far better acceleration and far better engine response. Engine feels much willing to move then before. Still feels good even when its nearing 10k KM.
My rating: 5/5


Brand: Pennzoil Platinum
Oil Type: 5w-30 Semi synthetic
Price: RM89.50 per 4L
My thoughts: To be advised - Just bought it.
My rating: To be advised

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Is anyone hv tried JTX1000 engine oil?
http://jtx1000.blogspot.com/

Sounds good but the API is SL sad.gif

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and then distribute by Hai-O (company that know nothing - make money from rebranding product..
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can still make money.....


Added on November 26, 2011, 8:43 pmShell Helix HX7 10w-40 SS on sales in Tesco at RM86.90 for 5L pack.....

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I hope this is the right thread to raise my inquiry here after I have search through F&F section.

Would like to ask SIFUsss here... What is the right procedure to check the engine oil level (by checking the dipstick)? Or should I say when is the right time to check that? Start or do not start the engine and check? Cause I have this scenario :-

i. If the engine is off, I can't see any oil level when I take out the dipstick.

ii. If the engine is running, when I pull out the dipstick, I can see the engine oil level is near to the lowest level.

P/S - I am using fully syn engine oil and currently only clocks 5,500km. By right it should able to sustain till 8,000km of mileage, at least.
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 12:33 AM)
I hope this is the right thread to raise my inquiry here after I have search through F&F section.

Would like to ask SIFUsss here... What is the right procedure to check the engine oil level (by checking the dipstick)?  Or should I say when is the right time to check that?  Start or do not start the engine and check?  Cause I have this scenario :-

i. If the engine is off, I can't see any oil level when I take out the dipstick.

ii. If the engine is running, when I pull out the dipstick, I can see the engine oil level is near to the lowest level.

P/S - I am using fully syn engine oil and currently only clocks 5,500km.  By right it should able to sustain till 8,000km of mileage, at least.
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engine off is the correct time. if started the oil already pumped to whole engine parts, you won't know how much oil is actually left.

if you can't see the oil then your engine oil is really2 low. better to top up some oil. your engine might be leaking oil.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 2 2011, 01:01 AM)
engine off is the correct time. if started the oil already pumped to whole engine parts, you won't know how much oil is actually left.

if you can't see the oil then your engine oil is really2 low. better to top up some oil. your engine might be leaking oil.
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Thanks for the feedback. I think my engine oil is real low. But I wonder where does the oil gone to? So far no oil leak symptom observed around the engine area. There is also no oil mark on the floor underneath the engine bay. That's why I am curious to find out. I told my mechanic, he said might be evaporate d. I was like rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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Best time to check is right before u start ur engine for the first time of the day...aka after the engine has been off for several hours...which is usually in the morning
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A few days ago I changed engine oil at a workshop.
After pouring some, he turned on engine and checked dipstick oil level. The dipstick showed it was one-third full. Then he topped up again, checked dipstick again...until full.

but then, this morning i checked oil level before start engine, the level was 30% above FULL.

Had the foreman used the correct method ??
Any side effect if the oil is too much ??
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I have a question;

I am currently using Shell branded engine oil, which has the so-called cleaning properties inside the oil to clean up the engine nicely... (Which I really like.)

But are there also other brand(s) of engine oils out there that also offers this cleaning/cleansing properties inside their oils (just like Shell)?

Please recommend if you know.

Thanks a lot in advance.
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 2 2011, 01:32 AM)
Best time to check is right before u start ur engine for the first time of the day...aka after the engine has been off for several hours...which is usually in the morning
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Hence, I can conclude that the best condition & time to check the engine oil level are : Engine is off and has been off for several hours.

But for my case - dipstick can't see any oil level when engine is off, meaning the oil level is real low. This means there is oil leaking. Any symptom that will have strong point of this leaking scenario? For eg engine valve cover area shows oil leak?

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I always check in the morning. Make sure the car is parked on flat ground also.

At the mechanic, he normally have to start the engine to fill the oil filter and check for leaks. After that he should off the engine, and let it stand for a while before checking and normally I will tell them to leave it at 3/4 mark, then I will check again next morning.


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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Dec 2 2011, 03:30 AM)
I have a question;

I am currently using Shell branded engine oil, which has the so-called cleaning properties inside the oil to clean up the engine nicely... (Which I really like.)

But are there also other brand(s) of engine oils out there that also offers this cleaning/cleansing properties inside their oils (just like Shell)?

Please recommend if you know.

Thanks a lot in advance.
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All major brands have the additives added to clean also...... smile.gif

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10km service intervals ? You must damn free to do this lol  laugh.gif  Or Castrol sucks ?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 2 2011, 09:31 AM)
I always check in the morning. Make sure the car is parked on flat ground also.

At the mechanic, he normally have to start the engine to fill the oil filter and check for leaks. After that he should off the engine, and let it stand for a while before checking and normally I will tell them to leave it at 3/4 mark, then I will check again next morning.
However, if there is leaking, there should b oil mark at the engine area... But mine there isn't any. That's why I am confuse...where did the oil goes. Really get evaporated due to high temp?
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jason4883,

wat engine oil grade u r using? if the engine oil will reduce over time. mean u use the wrong grade of engine oil....

let us know wat grade engine oil n what car u r running
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 09:52 AM)
However, if there is leaking, there should b oil mark at the engine area... But mine there isn't any.  That's why I am confuse...where did the oil goes.  Really get evaporated due to high temp?
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probably yes since you using fully syn. You may have to try semi syn. When you engine hot and oil evaporated, you should notice white smoke come out when you open your oil engine cap if im not wrong.
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 2 2011, 09:31 AM)
I always check in the morning. Make sure the car is parked on flat ground also.

At the mechanic, he normally have to start the engine to fill the oil filter and check for leaks. After that he should off the engine, and let it stand for a while before checking and normally I will tell them to leave it at 3/4 mark, then I will check again next morning.


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All major brands have the additives added to clean also...... smile.gif
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Thanks.

I have also been informed by some experts that the greater the stretch between the viscosity "numbers" of the oil; also means that the quicker the additives inside the oil will break down...

For example, it is not recommended to use engine oil with an (extreme) viscosity number (range) like 0W - 50, 5W - 50, & 10W - 60 as such... (Unless you change them more frequently...)

They recommend viscosity numbers in the "closer" range like 5W - 30, 10W - 30, 15W - 40, & 20W - 50 as such... (For longer lasting protection; because the protecting-additives will not break down as quickly as the other oils when subjected to prolonged high temperature... Once the protecting-additives breaks down, the oil loses it's protection capability.)

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If the engine is old and you use to light a viscosity the oil can slip through at higher revs into the combustion chamber and gets burnt off a little at a time. This way there will not be any smoke as it becomes a clean burn off, so engine oil level will reduce over long mileage.....
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campro suitable if using Q8 10-W40?
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I've used Mobil 1, Shell, Motul, Torco and some other crap oils. If you ask me, Torco SR-1 is the best I've used so far. No doubt it's expensive but your car really feels lighter and smoother acceleration. Mobil 1 is good as well but Shell is hopeless among these 3.
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Hi bro How much one 4L bottle?
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campro suitable if using Q8 10-W40?
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can...the most ppl using in kl


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Hi bro How much one 4L bottle?
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torco should be rm2xx for 4L fully syn 10,000km oil change interval. Lucas fully syn also good. price bout the same range

Q8 is little bit cheaper, but its still a good oil. both torco n Q8 distributed under same company here

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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 12:33 AM)
I hope this is the right thread to raise my inquiry here after I have search through F&F section.

Would like to ask SIFUsss here... What is the right procedure to check the engine oil level (by checking the dipstick)?  Or should I say when is the right time to check that?  Start or do not start the engine and check?  Cause I have this scenario :-

i. If the engine is off, I can't see any oil level when I take out the dipstick.

ii. If the engine is running, when I pull out the dipstick, I can see the engine oil level is near to the lowest level.

P/S - I am using fully syn engine oil and currently only clocks 5,500km.  By right it should able to sustain till 8,000km of mileage, at least.
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1. Engine must be left off for AT LEAST 5 mins for oil level check. But best done first thing in the morning OR half an hour or hours later.

2. If engine running, no way you will get an accurate reading as the oil is pumped all over inside the engine for lubrication of parts.

3. If engine is in perfect mint condition, it barely consume any engine oil even when it reaches 10k KM.



QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 2 2011, 01:22 AM)
Thanks for the feedback.  I think my engine oil is real low.  But I wonder where does the oil gone to?  So far no oil leak symptom observed around the engine area.  There is also no oil mark on the floor underneath the engine bay. That's why I am curious to find out.  I told my mechanic, he said might be evaporate d.  I was like rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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1. If your engine underwent a lot of mileage in its life time, yes, most probably the engine is consuming oil OR leak.

2. Best to observe what is probably wrong with it. The first start of the engine in the morning, have someone or perhaps you standing behind and observe the exhaust emission (as soon as it starts). If there are blue smoke (even a little) then yes, your engine's valve seals are slack causing oil to seep through. And, if there are blue smoke while driving, most probably your engine's valve seals are gone OR piston rings are gone. And if there are blue smoke when you full throttle it..... same thing...... valve seals and piston rings.

3. If not, then there are possibility the oil is completely burnt even before exiting the car's exhaust. Have to monitor closely.

4. Most obvious (or not in some car models) engine oil leaks around the engine head, block and bottom.




QUOTE(chemistry @ Dec 2 2011, 03:16 AM)
A few days ago I changed engine oil at a workshop.
After pouring some, he turned on engine and checked dipstick oil level. The dipstick showed it was one-third full. Then he topped up again, checked dipstick again...until full.

but then, this morning i checked oil level before start engine, the level was 30% above FULL.

Had the foreman used the correct method ??
Any side effect if the oil is too much ??
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1. First of all, this is the biggest mistakes MOST MECHANICS be it bawah pokok types and those "trained" ones from dealers. Never ever ever ever refill the engine oil to max level during oil changes. Never ever. It will always be overfilled the next time you check (eg. hours later or first think in the morning) I guarantee it will overfill. This is because, once engine oil is drained and refilled.... oil needs to travel through all the oil channels at the top of the engine, through a number of them in order to reach the bottom of the engine where the end of the dip stick is. Therefore, most mechs will immediately pull the dip stick right after refill which is completely wrong. Some will start the engine for the oil to circulate around and into the oil filter, shut down and immediately check the dip stick is also very wrong and inaccurate.

2. Best method will be after refill to about almost max and then start the engine for about 10 seconds and shut it down. Let it rest for about 5 mins AT LEAST. And then pull out the dip stick to check. And, next thing is..... do not refill to max. Just level it just under the max line or in between the mid and max line is perfect... as mentioned earlier, engine oil travels throughout the engine before actually reaches the bottom.....it takes a little time for the oil to settle.

3. Thicker engine oils eg. 20w 50 will take a longer time to settle down compared to thinner oils like 5w-30.




QUOTE(KIntos @ Dec 2 2011, 02:05 PM)
probably yes since you using fully syn. You may have to try semi syn. When you engine hot and oil evaporated, you should notice white smoke come out when you open your oil engine cap if im not wrong.
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1. A bit of smoke coming out of the filler hole is quite normal when its very hot.... But not too much though.





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jason4883,

wat engine oil grade u r using? if the engine oil will reduce over time. mean u use the wrong grade of engine oil....

let us know wat grade engine oil n what car u r running
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1. If your engine underwent a lot of mileage in its life time, yes, most probably the engine is consuming oil OR leak.

2. Best to observe what is probably wrong with it. The first start of the engine in the morning, have someone or perhaps you standing behind and observe the exhaust emission (as soon as it starts). If there are blue smoke (even a little) then yes, your engine's valve seals are slack causing oil to seep through. And, if there are blue smoke while driving, most probably your engine's valve seals are gone OR piston rings are gone. And if there are blue smoke when you full throttle it..... same thing...... valve seals and piston rings.

3. If not, then there are possibility the oil is completely burnt even before exiting the car's exhaust. Have to monitor closely.

4. Most obvious (or not in some car models) engine oil leaks around the engine head, block and bottom.[/color]
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Most probably my engine is consuming engine oil. There is no oil leakage stain around my engine bay (at least from where I can view). I have changed engine's valve seals b4 this. If piston rings are gone, for sure there will be blue smoke out of my exhaust. So far, there is no blue smoke out of my exhaust. This is for sure.

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check compression lo to confirm....

if the grade currently suing now still decrease, then u gotta use higher grade to reduce the oil burn
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Already on FS which is higher grade already, should be higher viscosity.....
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Already on FS which is higher grade already, should be higher viscosity.....
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So if currently using 5W-40, then I should try 10W-40 or 15W-40 for my next engine oil change?
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 4 2011, 04:54 AM)
So if currently using 5W-40, then I should try 10W-40 or 15W-40 for my next engine oil change?
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the grade before W is for cold start.....not much affected....

u should use xW50 if xW40 still cant perform well......
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 4 2011, 09:36 AM)
the grade before W is for cold start.....not much affected....

u should use xW50 if xW40 still cant perform well......
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Yup, correct. Probably need 10w-50, but 50 weight less in the market unless 5w-50.
10w-40 mostly SS
15w-40 may be mineral already.....
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 4 2011, 09:54 AM)
Yup, correct. Probably need 10w-50, but 50 weight less in the market unless 5w-50.
10w-40 mostly SS
15w-40 may be mineral already.....
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It's not easy to find 10w-50 engine oil in the market...

Guess I have to visit my mechanic fren for a better check up and see what's going on.
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It's not easy to find 10w-50 engine oil in the market...

Guess I have to visit my mechanic fren for a better check up and see what's going on.
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Yup, better find the cause first as 5w-40 and 10w-40 are the most common FS and SS oil in the market.....

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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 4 2011, 02:24 PM)
It's not easy to find 10w-50 engine oil in the market...

Guess I have to visit my mechanic fren for a better check up and see what's going on.
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5w50 ,10w50 normally is fully syn edi...Q8 i think is 10w50

or some r wit 15w50 or 20w50 but normally in mineral based edi
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 4 2011, 09:50 PM)
5w50 ,10w50 normally is fully syn edi...Q8 i think is 10w50

or some r wit 15w50 or 20w50 but normally in mineral based edi
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 4 2011, 09:50 PM)
5w50 ,10w50 normally is fully syn edi...Q8 i think is 10w50

or some r wit 15w50 or 20w50 but normally in mineral based edi
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That is because mineral oil cannot manufacture into low w viscosity and mostly starts at 15w.
SS have in 5w and 10w, and only FS comes in 0w.
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 5 2011, 07:50 AM)
That is because mineral oil cannot manufacture into low w viscosity and mostly starts at 15w.
SS have in 5w and 10w, and only FS comes in 0w.
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Q8 Formula F1 fully syn 10w50 available. should be around rm200.

or some of use are using xW40 + oil stabilizer/additive. it works too
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 5 2011, 09:58 AM)
Q8 Formula F1 fully syn 10w50 available. should be around rm200.

or some of use are using xW40 + oil stabilizer/additive. it works too
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You mean like Stop oil and Bardahl 2 additives to make viscosity thicker??
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QUOTE(jason4883 @ Dec 4 2011, 02:24 PM)
It's not easy to find 10w-50 engine oil in the market...

Guess I have to visit my mechanic fren for a better check up and see what's going on.
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Mobil 1 FS 5W-50 easily available...
Wat's important is the xW-50... tongue.gif

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Mobil 1 FS 5W-50 easily available...
Wat's important is the xW-50... tongue.gif
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Any idea where can I get this Mobil 1 FS 5W-50?  Eneos?
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Esso/Mobil petrol station, or when Tesco have sales much cheaper from there.....
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Went n check d... Esso/Mobil station nearby my area all run out of stock.  But price tagged at RM219.
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That is the list selling price for local Mobil 5w-50.
Try Tesco, theirs are from the EU, should be at RM199 for 4L. Sales times as low as RM149, sometimes RM169.
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For the past few years Im using Castrol Magnatec..
Now wanna try Castrol Edge,is it suitable for my car..

Car : Proton LMST
Year : 2004
Current Mileage : 60k

Magnatec is 10w - 40
Where else Castrol Edge (5W-40)..

Thanks guys..
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 7 2011, 09:27 AM)
That is the list selling price for local Mobil 5w-50.
Try Tesco, theirs are from the EU, should be at RM199 for 4L. Sales times as low as RM149, sometimes RM169.
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Let me go TESCO again this weekend. Thanks for the info. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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anyone heard "Savanna" brand engine oil before?

my fren intro it to me, said tht it is 10w-40 from arab brand wor....i wonder is it recycle oil.
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QUOTE(Ivan Sac @ Dec 7 2011, 02:02 PM)
Hi sifus..
For the past few years Im using Castrol Magnatec..
Now wanna try Castrol Edge,is it suitable for my car..

Car : Proton LMST
Year : 2004
Current Mileage : 60k

Magnatec is 10w - 40
Where else Castrol Edge (5W-40)..

Thanks guys..
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In the first place why want to use FS? It is more expensive also. To me unless it is high performance engine then use FS, if not, I don't think much difference, since viscosity is very close.....


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Let me go TESCO again this weekend.  Thanks for the info.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Tesco oil also have FS 5w-40 now at RM99
My NA Sonata I am using Tesco SS 10w-40

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Yup, better find the cause first as 5w-40 and 10w-40 are the most common FS and SS oil in the market.....
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anyone heard "Savanna" brand engine oil before?

my fren intro it to me, said tht it is 10w-40 from arab brand wor....i wonder is it recycle oil.
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Have not heard of this one, but many oil are from UAE now. Adnoc, Q8, even Lexus brand are from there.....

For Lexus, someone mention from Thailand..... blush.gif

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Another pondering question i have:

I have free service for my car and they use the Castrol A5 oil which i have never heard of before this.

Should i use my own oil instead?
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Another pondering question i have:

I have free service for my car and they use the Castrol A5 oil which i have never heard of before this.

Should i use my own oil instead?
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anyone heard "Savanna" brand engine oil before?

my fren intro it to me, said tht it is 10w-40 from arab brand wor....i wonder is it recycle oil.
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This oil make in Johor Bahru..


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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 7 2011, 04:52 PM)
Have not heard of this one, but many oil are from UAE now. Adnoc, Q8, even Lexus brand are from there.....
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U are right bro .. Adnoc, Q8 ( pronouce as Kuwait) , Enoc , Gulf and Sharlu from UAE. Lexus oil by UMW Malaysia


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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 7 2011, 03:49 PM)
In the first place why want to use FS? It is more expensive also. To me unless it is high performance engine then use FS, if not, I don't think much difference, since viscosity is very close.....
bro...both semi n fully perform is totally difference.....

instead of the difference in OCI, the engine oil performance also different....
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Anyone tried Petro Canada here?
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QUOTE(pumpman @ Dec 9 2011, 11:55 AM)
This oil make in Johor Bahru..


Added on December 9, 2011, 11:57 amU are right bro .. Adnoc, Q8 ( pronouce as Kuwait) , Enoc , Gulf and Sharlu from UAE. Lexus oil by UMW Malaysia
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Lexus oil distributed by UMW, but someone mention is made in Thailand.....


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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 9 2011, 12:05 PM)
bro...both semi n fully perform is totally difference.....

instead of the difference in OCI, the engine oil performance also different....
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By right FS do not have longer OCI, and is best to follow car manufacturer recommendation.
Oil manufacturer never overrides car manufacturer recommendation.

Actually was more on the point that not performance engine do not need FS oil to run..... blush.gif

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 10 2011, 12:11 PM)

By right FS do not have longer OCI, and is best to follow car manufacturer recommendation.
Oil manufacturer never overrides car manufacturer recommendation.

Actually was more on the point that not performance engine do not need FS oil to run..... blush.gif
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Petro-Canada Lubricant....

99.9% Pure Base Oil...Crystal Clear....

Very High Viscosity Index and very high Flash Point....



proven on bike, drift car(indonesia), van, car, superbike....


feel free to PM me as i'm a seller and dealer of this lubricant...

try it, and you never regret....

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1952757

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I'm driving Nissan Sunny 130y, anyone here have any suggestion about what brand and type of engine oil that suitable to my engine?
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 16 2011, 12:39 AM)
I'm driving Nissan Sunny 130y, anyone here have any suggestion about what brand and type of engine oil that suitable to my engine?
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ENEOS 20W50 (SM/CF)
I'm driving a Corolla as old as yours.
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Dec 16 2011, 01:24 AM)
ENEOS 20W50 (SM/CF)
I'm driving a Corolla as old as yours.
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How much roughly would it be? I'm currently Using Castrol GTX 20w 50
Feel the engine smooth for the first 1k after that it becomes like a bit noisy...
Have u tried GTX 20w 50?
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my friend introduce me this local engine oil.....hymin engine oil.....what do u guyz think?? hmm.gif hmm.gif

http://hyminoil.blogspot.com/


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QUOTE(skystrike @ Dec 16 2011, 01:30 AM)
my friend introduce me this local engine oil.....hymin engine oil.....what do u guyz think?? hmm.gif  hmm.gif

http://hyminoil.blogspot.com/
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tooo different doh.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 16 2011, 01:29 AM)
How much roughly would it be? I'm currently Using Castrol GTX 20w 50
Feel the engine smooth for the first 1k after that it becomes like a bit noisy...
Have u tried GTX 20w 50?
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Is your engine consuming engine oil? If not, can try SS 10w-40.....
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anyone heard b4 Savana engine oil?

the shop recommend me its from saudi arab
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 16 2011, 07:43 AM)
Is your engine consuming engine oil? If not, can try SS 10w-40.....
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Yes, Consuming little by little, not too obvious, at 5k the engine oil left around 45%
So how is it? By the way SS is??

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Yes, Consuming little by little, not too obvious, at 5k the engine oil left around 45%
So how is it? By the way SS is??
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SS as in Semi Synthetic.....

45% means halfway from top to bottom of the dip stick? Then for 5k km is okay, just nice for oil change.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 16 2011, 05:58 PM)
SS as in Semi Synthetic.....

45% means halfway from top to bottom of the dip stick? Then for 5k km is okay, just nice for oil change.... tongue.gif
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Owhh I didn't know that term SS is Semi Syn, I mean 45% of lube remaining in the engine when reach 5k,
I wanna try 15w 40 castrol modern engine, but the foreman say scare later the oil drain very fast because its thinner.

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 16 2011, 06:19 PM)
Owhh I didn't know that term SS is Semi Syn, I mean 45% of lube remaining in the engine when reach 5k,
I wanna try 15w 40 castrol modern engine, but the foreman say scare later the oil drain very fast because its thinner.
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I don't understand your 45% balance. Engine oil level have to be kept in between the high and low mark on the oil dip stick.
Can always try / test the oil. Just monitor the oil level using the dip stick. If not good, then go back to previous oil used.... blush.gif
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nissan 130y use mineral enough...old engine.

u need a higher grade engine oil...

20w50 is good.
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 17 2011, 09:59 AM)
nissan 130y use mineral enough...old engine.

u need a higher grade engine oil...

20w50 is good.
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Bro., 20w-50 is not higher grade oil, just higher or thicker viscosity, unless using the FS 20w-50..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 17 2011, 08:12 AM)
I don't understand your 45% balance. Engine oil level have to be kept in between the high and low mark on the oil dip stick.
Can always try / test the oil. Just monitor the oil level using the dip stick. If not good, then go back to previous oil used.... blush.gif
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Ohh, my 45% balance means I assume between the High(100%) and low(0%), my lube stay at 45% between them at 5k...

Mayb I should try, and I duno the API thing for my car engine as well cry.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 17 2011, 01:31 PM)
Ohh, my 45% balance means I assume between the High(100%) and low(0%), my lube stay at 45% between them at 5k...

Mayb I should try, and I duno the API thing for my car engine as well  cry.gif
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Oh! then it is okay. 45% between dip stick high and low level is good......

Old car no need follow so closely the API. Oil now mostly SM, if not SL. Of course got some SJ and even the newest SN.
But if old car can still use SL and SM oil, no problem.

For your reading....
http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 17 2011, 01:48 PM)
Oh! then it is okay. 45% between dip stick high and low level is good......

Old car no need follow so closely the API. Oil now mostly SM, if not SL. Of course got some SJ and even the newest SN.
But if old car can still use SL and SM oil, no problem.

For your reading....
http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm
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THX Alot!! Your provided link and answer solved some of my puzzle in my mind all these years! thumbup.gif
So do you think which one and brand I should go and give it a try first? based on my current engine condition that eat a bit oil... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 17 2011, 01:30 PM)
Bro., 20w-50 is not higher grade oil, just higher or thicker viscosity, unless using the FS 20w-50..... biggrin.gif
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i mean the viscosity

if the fella drive 130y using fs he is damn rich
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 16 2011, 06:19 PM)
Owhh I didn't know that term SS is Semi Syn, I mean 45% of lube remaining in the engine when reach 5k,
I wanna try 15w 40 castrol modern engine, but the foreman say scare later the oil drain very fast because its thinner.
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You should stick to mineral oil, unless you planning to overhaul the engine in recent times or if something goes wrong.

Mineral oil actually helped to close any gap caused by wears in all these time, changing to SS or FS will clean the deposits and resulting the thinner oil to leak out.
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 17 2011, 05:45 PM)
i mean the viscosity

if the fella drive 130y using fs he is damn rich
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ha! ha! true also, but very few FS 20w-50...... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 17 2011, 07:02 PM)
You should stick to mineral oil, unless you planning to overhaul the engine in recent times or if something goes wrong.

Mineral oil actually helped to close any gap caused by wears in all these time, changing to SS or FS will clean the deposits and resulting the thinner oil to leak out.
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Normally SS 10w-40 can still be used. SS are still mineral oil based. Even Group 3 Hydro Cracked FS are made from crude oil. Mineral oil have higher viscosity (thicker) that is why the blow by into the combustion chamber is less, not because it does not clean. SS is Mid viscosity, starts with 5w or 10w and FS the lightest at 0w.
If don't want to try SS 10w-40 still can try Mineral 15w-40 instead of 20w-50.
As mentioned if not good, can just switch back to 20w-50.

For my turbo, I did try 5w-30, found it too light so, after a week switch back to FS 5w-40.....my ride is a 1991 model.

For my wife's Sonata, was on FS 5w-40, then I switch to 5w-30 also can use and that is a 1996 model
Now on SS 10w-40 because cheaper and her car is NA so no need FS oil.....

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Hi...
Do yu all know abt this?

"ExxonMobil recommends a five year maximum shelf-life for engine oils, including Mobil 1. "

Found this in Mobil FAQ here ==>
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorO...Shelf_Life.aspx

ps. This is probably reason why imported engine oil bottles (esp EU ones) hv manufacturing dates printed whereas our Msian ones do NOT hv!!!
As a result, we do NOT know how old is stock of oils we buy each time??

NB. Link corrected!!! Apologies... blush.gif

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Page not found??

Probably overseas needed by law but not here.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 17 2011, 08:08 PM)
ha! ha! true also, but very few FS 20w-50...... tongue.gif


Added on December 17, 2011, 8:17 pm
Normally SS 10w-40 can still be used. SS are still mineral oil based. Even Group 3 Hydro Cracked FS are made from crude oil. Mineral oil have higher viscosity (thicker) that is why the blow by into the combustion chamber is less, not because it does not clean. SS is Mid viscosity, starts with 5w or 10w and FS the lightest at 0w.
If don't want to try SS 10w-40 still can try Mineral 15w-40 instead of 20w-50.
As mentioned if not good, can just switch back to 20w-50.

For my turbo, I did try 5w-30, found it too light so, after a week switch back to FS 5w-40.....my ride is a 1991 model.

For my wife's Sonata, was on FS 5w-40, then I switch to 5w-30 also can use and that is a 1996 model
Now on SS 10w-40 because cheaper and her car is NA so no need FS oil.....
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I see... I do agree that FS 20w 50 too hard to find in the market... Or I should say I've never seen any of them. blink.gif Btw Castrol Modern Engine 15W 40 is Mineral oil right? Does brand also matter?
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 18 2011, 01:05 AM)
I see... I do agree that FS 20w 50 too hard to find in the market... Or I should say I've never seen any of them.  blink.gif Btw Castrol Modern Engine 15W 40 is Mineral oil right? Does brand also matter?
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20w50 FS is quite common for the US market.. Try Amsoil .. Pretty good oil


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QUOTE(eprince @ Dec 16 2011, 03:23 PM)
anyone heard b4 Savana engine oil?

the shop recommend me its from saudi arab
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From Saudi? Lol.., made in Johor bahru if not mistaken..


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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 17 2011, 11:31 PM)
Page not found??

Probably overseas needed by law but not here.... sad.gif
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Thanks for the suggestion guys...Will use Castrol Magnatec.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 18 2011, 12:05 AM)
I see... I do agree that FS 20w 50 too hard to find in the market... Or I should say I've never seen any of them.  blink.gif Btw Castrol Modern Engine 15W 40 is Mineral oil right? Does brand also matter?
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Yup, mineral. As named modern engine so slightly lighter in viscosity.....


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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Dec 18 2011, 01:59 PM)
I saw it in Carrefour about RM8X
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Yup, Either Carrefour or Tesco, when on sale is cheap. Local ones are RM100 plus....

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 18 2011, 06:58 PM)
Yup, mineral. As named modern engine so slightly lighter in viscosity.....


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Yup, Either Carrefour or Tesco, when on sale is cheap. Local ones are RM100 plus....
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Thanks for your guidance! Then i'll try the castrol modern engine 15W 40 for my next change, hopefully FC and power increase brows.gif
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Let us know how it went.....
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I am using Toyota 5W40 engine oil on my wira because it's cheaper compare to other brand of 5W40
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The Toyota FS 5w-40? How much you getting at?
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RM143... They said toyota engine oil is penzoil one
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RM143... They said toyota engine oil is penzoil one
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Maybe pack for them?
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Maybe... I get it direct from the supplier, not those shop... If from shop is around rm175++ and at UMW is rm218...
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same group ..UMW

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Maybe... I get it direct from the supplier, not those shop... If from shop is around rm175++ and at UMW is rm218...
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Here at UMW HQ can buy at discount, cheaper then outside...... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 19 2011, 04:18 PM)
Here at UMW HQ can buy at discount, cheaper then outside...... tongue.gif
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How much izzit?
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For that price, i will go for fully imported oil like Petro Canada.. I am using this oil now and the feeling of engine responsiveness is better than Shell and Q8 that i used before. I use a vibration tester and to my surprise, the engine vibration drop.

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Dec 19 2011, 05:16 PM)
For that price, i will go for fully imported oil like Petro Canada.. I am using this oil now and the feeling of engine responsiveness is better than Shell and Q8 that i used before. I use a vibration tester and to my surprise, the engine vibration drop.
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For that price, i will go for fully imported oil like Petro Canada.. I am using this oil now and the feeling of engine responsiveness is better than Shell and Q8 that i used before. I use a vibration tester and to my surprise, the engine vibration drop.
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is petro canada 10w-40 better than penzzoil platinum and liqui moly?
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The cheapest, I found was Bardhal, hence using the full synthetic oil for the past 2 years... no complains rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 19 2011, 04:03 PM)
How much izzit?
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Have not seen the Toyota oil but bought the Pennzoil before. Outside around RM195, got it at around RM135 if not mistaken


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The cheapest, I found was Bardhal, hence using the full synthetic oil for the past 2 years... no complains  rclxms.gif
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Yup, was using this for a few years too......

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do u guys heard about AGIP engine oil ? is tat good ?
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http://www.mudah.my/Engine+Oil+for+Petrol+...an-11371274.htm
Y this so cheap? Who use this before? Izzit okay?
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 19 2011, 11:35 PM)
http://www.mudah.my/Engine+Oil+for+Petrol+...an-11371274.htm
Y this so cheap? Who use this before? Izzit okay?
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 20 2011, 10:01 AM)
find me la if wan lucas or m7 japan oil..im at kk too
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What grade and hOw much?
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What grade and hOw much?
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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 20 2011, 12:17 PM)
depends on what car u use lo......let me know
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do u guys heard about AGIP engine oil ? is tat good ?
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Yup, heard before. Still have around as I don't see them anymore.....


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http://www.mudah.my/Engine+Oil+for+Petrol+...an-11371274.htm
Y this so cheap? Who use this before? Izzit okay?
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Wah! so expensive already. Last time was around RM149 only......

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Yup, heard before. Still have around as I don't see them anymore.....


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Wah! so expensive already. Last time was around RM149 only......
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how about AGIP ? will it good compare to other ? petro canada oso ?
how to see the grade of oil like SN or SJ
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 19 2011, 05:41 PM)
How much and what brand izzit? Mine is jz around Rm145 wor...
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Something like that , but for fully imported oil


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@PUMPMAN
is petro canada 10w-40 better than penzzoil platinum and liqui moly?
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i dare not say as i have not try.. but is better than Q8 and Shell... for your info pennzoil brand belong to shell bv


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do u guys heard about AGIP engine oil ? is tat good ?
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there is 2 version of agip ..one from singapore and one from italy


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how about AGIP ? will it good compare to other ? petro canada oso ?
how to see the grade of oil like SN or SJ
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do check here http://eolcs.api.org/licenseAgreementService.aspx?id=707.. Just choose the right oil.


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http://www.mudah.my/Engine+Oil+for+Petrol+...an-11371274.htm
Y this so cheap? Who use this before? Izzit okay?
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i know who make for them...no thanks...not for me

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To me, all oil about the same. If NA car use Semi Synthetic good enough. Use any reputable brand.
If driving forced induction you may want to use FS. Brand wise up to your budget.
I am using the cheapest available and change them more often.....
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Use the toyota engine oil la... Good and cheap... I use it already 2 yrs... My valve and camshaft are very shinny now XD
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 20 2011, 10:48 PM)
Use the toyota engine oil la... Good and cheap... I use it already 2 yrs...  My valve and camshaft are very shinny now XD
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Used before, got them last time at RM80 through staff, until he left then change oil brands..... tongue.gif
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Used before, got them last time at RM80 through staff, until he left then change oil brands..... tongue.gif
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So cheap?! Toyota use penzoil de...
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Toyota I don't know, but they mention Pennzoil made by Shell.... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 21 2011, 10:46 AM)
Friend working inside, now left already.... cry.gif
Toyota I don't know, but they mention Pennzoil made by Shell.... hmm.gif
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Lolx... Toyota is made by pennzoil then penzoil is made by shell... At the end, using shell ? blink.gif
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Lolx... Toyota is made by pennzoil then penzoil is made by shell... At the end, using shell ? blink.gif
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Yup, can be... just like Esso and Mobil merge, now only Mobil Engine oil and Esso petrol only, but made by one....
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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 21 2011, 11:53 AM)
Yup, can be... just like Esso and Mobil merge, now only Mobil Engine oil and Esso petrol only, but made by one....
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Coool but the shell 5w40 is damm expensive leh..
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Coool but the shell 5w40 is damm expensive leh..
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Try looking out for it during Tesco or Carrefour sales. Should be around RM149 sometimes.....
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Try looking out for it during Tesco or Carrefour sales. Should be around RM149 sometimes.....
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Hmm... Sabah dun have them leh...
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Hmm... Sabah dun have them leh...
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Oh! Yup, forgot again you are from there.......paiseh...... blush.gif
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Nvm... U make me jealous only... Easy to find cheap and good quality things to play there...
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any commend about AGIP 10w30 ?
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Not too sure of AGIP. Very old famous brand. To me all oil about the same (branded), all depends what you want to use, from mineral to SS to FS and what viscosity too.....
My car are 1.8 and 2.0 and are old. Oil recommended are 40 weight, so have not venture towards 30.
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Not too sure of AGIP. Very old famous brand. To me all oil about the same (branded), all depends what you want to use, from mineral to SS to FS and what viscosity too.....
My car are 1.8 and 2.0 and are old. Oil recommended are 40 weight, so have not venture towards 30.
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but for this will be recond oil or recycle oil ?jz worry about this only.. 
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QUOTE(blueskylim @ Dec 21 2011, 05:14 PM)
but for this will be recond oil or  recycle oil ?jz worry about this only.. 
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Bro., famous oil will get recon/recycle as in fake. So have to buy from reliable source.
AGIP should be safe. Castrol Magnetec, even Castrol Gold, Mobil Gold some spare part shop also afraid to sell because could be fake.... ohmy.gif
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I heard people said "76" brand engine oils are recycle oils
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76 oil quite famous



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76 is from conoco phillips

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QUOTE(pumpman @ Dec 23 2011, 03:30 PM)
76 is from conoco phillips
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Branded...... tongue.gif

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Not really good right?
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Depends

Anyone here uses Lucas oil? Can comment?
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Not really good right?
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I am using oil that proven to protect engine pass 2,000,000 km ( 2 million) without overhaul..
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I am using oil that proven to protect engine pass 2,000,000 km ( 2 million) without overhaul..
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what oil is that so PRO? pm 

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Wow... Dangerous if always drive in high rev....
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 26 2011, 06:39 AM)
not really that dangerous if you have good engine oil protecting your engine
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 26 2011, 08:22 AM)
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 26 2011, 04:15 AM)
Wow... Dangerous if always drive in high rev....
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We don't drive like formula driver everyday.. Do we?


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QUOTE(pumpman @ Dec 26 2011, 12:35 AM)
I am using oil that proven to protect engine pass 2,000,000 km ( 2 million) without overhaul..
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Such claims are (if done) ONLY valid under very strict fully-supervised lab test conditions eg as in Mobil 1 tests.

Does NOT apply in day2day driving and road/city/rural conditions nor w/o strict control and various conditions (which normal car users nvr comply) set for such tests!!

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Dec 23 2011, 10:41 PM)
Depends

Anyone here uses Lucas oil? Can comment?
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im using Lucas synthetic trans fluid, differential fluid and engine oil in my GTR and fairlady smile.gif...my frens using in evo n scoobie... very good
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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 26 2011, 05:27 PM)
Such claims are (if done) ONLY valid under very strict fully-supervised lab test conditions eg as in Mobil 1 tests.

Does NOT apply in day2day driving and road/city/rural conditions nor w/o strict control and various conditions (which normal car users nvr comply) set for such tests!!
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Those under constant speed and less stress...... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pumpman @ Dec 26 2011, 11:57 AM)
We don't drive like formula driver everyday.. Do we?


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QUOTE(huakenny @ Dec 26 2011, 07:34 PM)
hi bro,

im using Lucas synthetic trans fluid, differential fluid and engine oil in my GTR and fairlady smile.gif...my frens using in evo n scoobie... very good
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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Nov 25 2011, 02:56 PM)
Engine: 1.6L Campro IAFM - P. Persona.

Brand: Shell Helix HXZ
Oil Type: 10w-40 Semi Synthetic
Price: RM99 per 4L
My Thoughts: Just alright. Engine gets a little lazy as it nears 10k KM.
My rating: 3/5

Brand: Toyota
Oil Type: 10w-30 Semi synthetic
Price: RM91 per 4L
My thoughts: Superb. FC was better, far better acceleration and far better engine response. Engine feels much willing to move then before. Still feels good even when its nearing 10k KM.
My rating: 5/5

Brand: Pennzoil Platinum
Oil Type: 5w-30 Semi synthetic
Price: RM89.50 per 4L
My thoughts: To be advised - Just bought it.
My rating: To be advised

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now i can comment on this:

Brand: Pennzoil Platinum
Oil Type: 5w-30 Semi synthetic
Price: RM89.50 per 4L
My thoughts: Superb. Very good acceleration, good engine response. Engine feels very willing to go go go go! Gives a more pleasurable drive compared to heavier oils.
My rating: 5/5

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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 27 2011, 11:18 AM)
now i can comment on this:

Brand: Pennzoil Platinum
Oil Type: 5w-30 Semi synthetic
Price: RM89.50 per 4L
My thoughts: Superb. Very good acceleration, good engine response. Engine feels very willing to go go go go! Gives a more pleasurable drive compared to heavier oils.
My rating: 5/5
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XXw30 engine oils not normally for low cc engine only?
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Wira 1.5M should use what oil rating?

I am currently using 15/40, is this heavy for a car that just clocked under 70K....

Using Shell HX5

Reedited it's not HX3 but HX5

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XXw30 engine oils not normally for low cc engine only?
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no. that is the most common misconception we have. actually its widely used on new generation engines nowadays. check out Peugeot, Citroen, Toyotas, Hondas and etc. They are now using xW-30 oils.
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Wira 1.5M should use what oil rating?

I am currently using 15/40, is this heavy for a car that just clocked under 70K....

Using Shell HX3
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I am using Toyota 5w40. Got forumers said it is made from pennzoil and penzzoil is made from shell.


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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 27 2011, 11:29 AM)
no. that is the most common misconception we have. actually its widely used on new generation engines nowadays. check out Peugeot, Citroen, Toyotas, Hondas and etc. They are now using xW-30 oils.
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Can my engine 4g15 use XXw30 engine oils?

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 10:31 AM)
I am using Toyota 5w40. Got forumers&nbsp; said it is made from pennzoil and penzzoil is made from shell.


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Can my engine 4g15 use XXw30 engine oils?
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Toyota? Brand named Toyota? Never seen before...or the oil is for Toyota but you use it on Wira

But is it ok for to use mineral oil 40 on a car that is on a low mileage...my car needs oil change in 800KM more and this is 2nd change...

Sorry mistype it's HX5 not HX3

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 10:31 AM)
I am using Toyota 5w40. Got forumers  said it is made from pennzoil and penzzoil is made from shell.


Added on December 27, 2011, 10:34 am
Can my engine 4g15 use XXw30 engine oils?
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why not?? as long as ur engine is not burning the oil off since its lighter (thinner) especially when the engine has gone a lot of mileage in them (more wear and tear - more clearance).
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QUOTE(ben3085 @ Dec 27 2011, 11:38 AM)
Toyota? Brand named Toyota? Never seen before...or the oil is for Toyota but you use it on Wira

But is it ok for to use mineral oil 40 on a car that is on a low mileage...my car needs oil change in 800KM more and this is 2nd change...

Sorry mistype it's HX5 not HX3
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The brand name is Toyota. It is produced by Toyota company. Can get it in UMW around RM218+- or get it at outside around RM145+-. Confirm okay for low milage because new Toyota cars are using it also.


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why not?? as long as ur engine is not burning the oil off since its lighter (thinner) especially when the engine has gone a lot of mileage in them (more wear and tear - more clearance).
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I think my engine maybe dun have burn engine oil. Because the engine oil won't less. Got any other ways to check whether the engine got burn engine oil or not? My engine ady 110k milage.

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QUOTE(zeone @ Dec 26 2011, 06:27 PM)
Such claims are (if done) ONLY valid under very strict fully-supervised lab test conditions eg as in Mobil 1 tests.

Does NOT apply in day2day driving and road/city/rural conditions nor w/o strict control and various conditions (which normal car users nvr comply) set for such tests!!
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No , this is not a lab test.. This is a real life situation with OCI of 80k km..

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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 10:43 AM)
The brand name is Toyota. It is produced by Toyota company. Can get it in UMW around RM218+- or get it at outside around RM145+-. Confirm okay for low milage because new Toyota cars are using it also.


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I think my engine maybe dun have burn engine oil. Because the engine oil won't less. Got any other ways to check whether the engine got burn engine oil or not? My engine ady 110k milage.
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best way is to monitor it by yourself. check the oil level monthly and if it drops very fast and needing top up from time to time till your next oil change... then you may have some oil burning right there. if its a little it is quite ok. but too much like as in to top up every mid month or so... then its not quite ok. like in new engines, driving it hard or normal till 10,000 km oil change, it does not burn any oil. well, i would not say does not burn at all but then the level remains more less the same throughout.
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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Dec 27 2011, 12:19 PM)
best way is to monitor it by yourself. check the oil level monthly and if it drops very fast and needing top up from time to time till your next oil change... then you may have some oil burning right there. if its a little it is quite ok. but too much like as in to top up every mid month or so... then its not quite ok. like in new engines, driving it hard or normal till 10,000 km oil change, it does not burn any oil. well, i would not say does not burn at all but then the level remains more less the same throughout.
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I think my engine dun have burn oil because it remains at max level when I check biggrin.gif So I can use w30 engine oil because it is cheaper...
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 11:38 AM)
I think my engine dun have burn oil because it remains at max level when I check biggrin.gif So I can use w30 engine oil because it is cheaper...
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always fill to about 90% if u wan better response....MAX level normally abit heavy blush.gif
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 10:31 AM)
I am using Toyota 5w40. Got forumers  said it is made from pennzoil and penzzoil is made from shell.


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Can my engine 4g15 use XXw30 engine oils?
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lol... i will b tryin out d xW30 oil on my next change..still another 700km to go.. shud b service on next week. laugh.gif

btw, using 4g13 here. huhu
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 27 2011, 12:46 PM)
lol... i will b tryin out d xW30 oil on my next change..still another 700km to go.. shud b service on next week.  laugh.gif

btw, using 4g13 here. huhu
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I am going to try 5w30 next for my 4g15. Still have 2k to go :/
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 27 2011, 11:46 AM)
lol... i will b tryin out d xW30 oil on my next change..still another 700km to go.. shud b service on next week.  laugh.gif

btw, using 4g13 here. huhu
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i was actually planning to go for xw30 ss liqui moly, however elton advised against it, and lately mechanic also mentioned that my car is suppose to use xw50, and even pointed the sticker on the engine (which i never paid attention, and hell, the sticker still quite good condition so long you wipe off all the dust/dirt/carbon etc sweat.gif )
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 27 2011, 01:00 PM)
i was actually planning to go for xw30 ss liqui moly, however elton advised against it, and lately mechanic also mentioned that my car is suppose to use xw50, and even pointed the sticker on the engine (which i never paid attention, and hell, the sticker still quite good condition so long you wipe off all the dust/dirt/carbon etc  sweat.gif )
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How come they dun let u to use d? What engine r u using?
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 11:51 AM)
I am going to try 5w30 next for my 4g15. Still have 2k to go :/
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same lo... wanna try 5w30... bardhal FS.. other brands seems expensiv... performance brand can set at least rm120 n above...zzz..
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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 27 2011, 12:03 PM)
How come they dun let u to use d? What engine r u using?
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AT 1.5 1999 iswara aeroback, exact engine model i never paid attention, will need to look back sticker, though sifus here should be able to easily identify/tell
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 27 2011, 12:00 PM)
i was actually planning to go for xw30 ss liqui moly, however elton advised against it, and lately mechanic also mentioned that my car is suppose to use xw50, and even pointed the sticker on the engine (which i never paid attention, and hell, the sticker still quite good condition so long you wipe off all the dust/dirt/carbon etc  sweat.gif )
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aik.. urs not saga iswara a? how come xw50?


unless ur engine hav alot scars at block, i do not see reason using xw50..
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 27 2011, 12:05 PM)
same lo... wanna try 5w30... bardhal FS.. other brands seems expensiv... performance brand can set at least rm120 n above...zzz..
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expensive brands are expensive for a reason, for example, the additives in liqui moly ss should easily outperform something like bardhal FS, even though they are priced almost the same with 1 being ss 1 being fs.

can also refer to the other thread where 1 of our forumer did some tests/research on various high performance oils. liqui moly may not be a "top performer", however its additives in engine protection, which is very evident on the low/smooth noise revving and silky acceleration/rev goes to prove that your engine is in good hands.

as for me, i just want to prolong my engine life, since i just spent over 2k to complete overhaul it. and my foot quite heavy, time to time also red lining the car for no good reason lol, so liqui moly merely helps keep my engine in check smile.gif


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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 27 2011, 12:08 PM)
aik.. urs not saga iswara a? how come xw50?
unless ur engine hav alot scars at block, i do not see reason using xw50..
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thats what the official sticker from proton on my chassis says, even say i need to use DOT3 brake oil while im using DOT4 sweat.gif

maybe back then in 1999, high performance/low viscosity oils arent good/common, so they just recommend what's mainstream/common or rather, proven/confirmed to not give issues (like xw40 or even 30 may consume oil easily as it slips through the valves and gets burned off)

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 27 2011, 12:09 PM)
expensive brands are expensive for a reason, for example, the additives in liqui moly ss should easily outperform something like bardhal FS, even though they are priced almost the same with 1 being ss 1 being fs.

can also refer to the other thread where 1 of our forumer did some tests/research on various high performance oils. liqui moly may not be a "top performer", however its additives in engine protection, which is very evident on the low/smooth noise revving and silky acceleration/rev goes to prove that your engine is in good hands.

as for me, i just want to prolong my engine life, since i just spent over 2k to complete overhaul it. and my foot quite heavy, time to time also red lining the car for no good reason lol, so liqui moly merely helps keep my engine in check smile.gif
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huhu.. wat to do.liquid moly no doubt is good, but calculate calculate a, cannot la. somemore i change oil every 2 months plus @ 5k km...

mine jus pass 100k km... not yet overhaul...hopefully can tahan till another 5 years b4 need overhaul..lol

i dun mind change to SS, any brand can recommend a? budget of course not more than 100..lol..zzzz

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Dec 27 2011, 12:27 PM)
huhu.. wat to do.liquid moly no doubt is good, but calculate calculate a, cannot la. somemore i change oil every 2 months plus @ 5k km...

mine jus pass 100k km... not yet overhaul...hopefully can tahan till another 5 years b4 need overhaul..lol

i dun mind change to SS, any brand can recommend a? budget of course not more than 100..lol..zzzz
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actually right, good SS that maintains its properties despite over 5k you can service it later. usually good ss can do 7k service intervals, however since carbon buildup is still an issue, i settle for a middle point between 5k - 6k, depending when i free once 5k is triggered.

so if you service slightly later, in a way, you consider saving a bit ady.
also, if you're protecting your engine, and keeps it problem free (again, oils like liqui moly emphasizes on protecting your engine, not so much actual performance/horses) you may not even need an overhaul smile.gif

that said, my engine is over 230k km over 12 years+, never overhaul, so... yeah lol.
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If onli can choose shell n petronas,which more better?10-40..
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If onli can choose shell n petronas,which more better?10-40..
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I think shell is better biggrin.gif

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