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post Apr 6 2010, 12:16 AM, updated 16y ago

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iPhone 4

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Apple has just announced the new iPhone on WWDC 2010 (around 1 AM June 8th Malaysian time). And boy does it look gorgeous!

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Available in 16GB or 32GB, black or white.

The new features:

FaceTime - basically videocall, but between iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 only for now. Also for now, only by using WiFi. The reason is because AT&T will struggle to support the bandwidth, but we'll see if Apple and Maxis can arrange it for us here smile.gif Also, this is an open standard, so we can expect phones from other manufacturer to support FaceTime as well. Both front and back cameras can be used.

5 MP camera, LED flash, Backside Illumination Sensor, Front Camera
- you should probably know more megapixels equals more noise, but the camera sensor in iPhone 4 has also been increased as well, and paired with backside illumination technology. BIS and LED flash should result in better low-light photos. Front camera can also be used for easier camwhoring!

HD Video & iMovie for iPhone - self-explanatory tongue.gif

Retina Display with IPS technology - our beloved 3.5" Multitouch display now has a resolution of 960x640 (4x iPhone 3GS), so that's a stunning 326 pixels per inch! 800:1 contrast ratio and oleophobic coating for both the aluminosilicate glass screen and back panel. Also, IPS technology gives better colours and viewing angles…should beat AMOLED anytime.

Gyroscope - iPhone reinvented mobile gaming with the accelerometer. This is the next invention.

Bigger battery - Hey, it's Apple.

And of course, iPhone 4 is powered by the Apple A4 processor.

Read more about the new features here and drool at the tech specs here

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iOS 4 (previously known as iPhone OS 4)

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IOS 4 Download

iPhone 3G IOS 4 Firmware - Download

iPhone 3GS IOS 4 Firmware - Download

iPhone 4 IOS 4 Firmware - Download

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New features:

Multitasking - It's finally here! Double-tapping the home button will show all the apps you are currently running. This multitasking system is designed for minimum impact on battery life.

Folders - Effortlessly organize your apps in folders.

iBooks - Just like from the iPad, you get to purchase eBooks from the iBookstore

Unified Mail Inbox - manage multiple email accounts, and you can also view messages in threads

Frequently Asked Questions

READ THIS BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION! You can always visit the official iPhone 4 page on Apple.com, and here's a useful article from Engadget. Feel free to ask or comment anything in this thread, but please no bashing and one-liners. Keep this thread clean so anyone can find information they need as easy as possible.

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iPhone 4 FAQ

1. When will it be released in Malaysia?
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2. So long have to wait! Can I buy from other countries and bring it to Malaysia?
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3. So how much will it be priced in Malaysia?
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4. But wait, iPhone 4 uses microSIM?! How long do we have to wait to have this in Malaysia? Any news from Maxis, Digi or Celcom?
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5. Malaysia don't have 4G network laa!
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6. Adobe Flash support?
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7. How to play Farmville?!?!?!
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8. Will the price drop anytime soon?
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9. I saw someone in Garage Sales (or other places) selling the iPhone 4 for an absurdly high price! Why is that person ripping me off?!
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10. The iPhone 4 is a disappointment. When will a new iPhone be released?
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11. I heard there's a rumour about a new version of the iPod touch. Is this true?
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12. I just bought an iPhone 3GS. Is it worth it to upgrade? Can trade-in?
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13. Can I edit my own ringtones in iPhone? Even my old phone can do that!
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14. Why no AMOLED screen?
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15. What is Retina Display?
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iOS 4.0 FAQ

1. Which iPhones n iPod touches are eligible for this update?
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2. Is it free? How do I get it?
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3. Should I try the Golden Master BETA version?
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4. Can I Jailbreak it?
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More FAQs coming soon. Any corrections please PM me, thank you smile.gif

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 6 2010, 12:16 AM)
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that was a shock... suddenly announce three days before the event!

c'monnnn multitasking biggrin.gif
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i heard the rumors 2 weeks ago... but not too sure....
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post Apr 6 2010, 12:33 AM

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wow...! excited biggrin.gif
wonder if Apple will makes multitasking works on iPhone/iPad.
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According to those news, apple has certified that multitasking is in the list of the feature of iPhone os4. I also hope that this will be included in the new os.
Btw just want to ask when apple announce new os, can we just update it through iTunes? Sorry I am a new iPhone user and wonder whether those updates will be available for existing iPhone user.
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QUOTE(boomber @ Apr 6 2010, 12:42 AM)
According to those news, apple has certified that multitasking is in the list of the feature of iPhone os4. I also hope that this will be included in the new os.
Btw just want to ask when apple announce new os, can we just update it through iTunes? Sorry I am a new iPhone user and wonder whether those updates will be available for existing iPhone user.
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u have to wait for the OS on itunes lah... they only announce it... not really release it yet....

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so far even the 1st gen iphone still can upgrade to OS 3.0... shud be able to upgrade to 4.0 i guess smile.gif

actually-useful standby screen please... n easy way to switch tabs in safari tongue.gif
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QUOTE(boomber @ Apr 6 2010, 12:42 AM)
According to those news, apple has certified that multitasking is in the list of the feature of iPhone os4. I also hope that this will be included in the new os.
Btw just want to ask when apple announce new os, can we just update it through iTunes? Sorry I am a new iPhone user and wonder whether those updates will be available for existing iPhone user.
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Developer Preview version is likely to be made available during WWDC. Of which is very likely the same chaos as the last time with 3.0 is gonna happen again, with people downloading copies off BT, upgrading and finding that they cannot authorize their phones without a developer account and cannot revert back to the previous OS, etc once again.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 6 2010, 01:12 AM)
Developer Preview version is likely to be made available during WWDC. Of which is very likely the same chaos as the last time with 3.0 is gonna happen again, with people downloading copies off BT, upgrading and finding that they cannot authorize their phones without a developer account and cannot revert back to the previous OS, etc once again.
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some people so impatient.... thats all i have to say...
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post Apr 6 2010, 01:23 AM

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haha.. just stick to those firmware where u dont have any problem.. n wat g3n0cld3 said was very true.. haha
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lol i didnt know got such case. hopefully they learnt their lesson!
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post Apr 6 2010, 01:29 AM

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multitasking is a charm~ but it drains the battery lagi cepat~
hopefully it's free for those 3.0
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i have some rumor news but not proven yet.. here is some news that i get from other..
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look like iphone will go to 3.3 currently but ipod will go for 4.0 os.. however still consider a good news if rely true rclxms.gif

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3,3 and 4,1 shud be the model 'name'.

iphone 2,1 is the 3GS... 1,1 is the 2G, 1,2 is the 3G

but those 3,1 3,2 and 3,3 are new smile.gif
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I can't wait lol..
Wonder whether this time got front camera?? tongue.gif
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haha.. ya save money now for july new iphone?? haha.. or probably try ipad first lo.. lol
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QUOTE(tabs @ Apr 6 2010, 11:07 AM)
haha.. ya save money now for july new iphone?? haha.. or probably try ipad first lo.. lol
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but maybe the os 4.0 will be a bit similiar to ipad...HD..hope for ebooks in...love that..
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Lol.. if function similar to ipad probably will buy iphone instead of ipad however still hope that iphone will look different..
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anyone know how the coming new iphone looks like??
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got some rumor news only u can google press iphone 4g then u will see the picture..
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hopefully apple are not going to make us dissapointed ><
multi task ftw !!
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hopeful multi task will not make the battery life gone faster..
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Wow! Apple is previewing OS 4.0 before I am asked to collect my Iphone on 9th April. Better wait and see first smile.gif
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aiyoo..so sad..have to get rid the 3gs to get the new ones when it came out...there'll be garage sale battle for the 3gs..
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I will be keeping my 3gs, even if it has new features and what not, I dont really care, I love my 3gs smile.gif. Hopefully the jailbreak will come out fast as well lol.
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I will be keeping my 3gs, even if it has new features and what not, I dont really care, I love my 3gs smile.gif. Hopefully the jailbreak will come out fast as well lol.
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but if the function is much more better than 3gs, why not upgrade.. thumbup.gif
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well honestly, i use the phone to make calls and do some basic vid recording.. all in all.. there might be some hardware diff's.. but the software would be 90 % identical... 2g-3gs (i would say go for it..) 3g-3gs( meh.. really for a compass and vid recording..meh..) smile.gif. Well that's my opinion anyway.


Added on April 6, 2010, 12:59 pmanyway, lets see what the big diff would be.. cause its going to be huge smile.gif

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saving mode = on cool2.gif for iphone 4G tongue.gif

hopefully this new OS works smoothly on my 3G sleep.gif
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Can't wait for the new iPhone... By then those wanna buy 3Gs will get very good trade deals. LOL
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I think iPhone 4G wont be available in Malaysia for a period of time after its launch... I guess it will take around a year like previous iPhone generation before our Telco intro to us...
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Lol. take a close look of last year 3gs. Maxis launch 3gs about a month after the announcement la. Every telco partner of apple will get it

3g was launched late because there is no telco offering it yet during the announcement.


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QUOTE(ashwin988 @ Apr 6 2010, 12:58 PM)
well honestly, i use the phone to make calls and do some basic vid recording.. all in all.. there might be some hardware diff's.. but the software would be 90 % identical... 2g-3gs (i would say go for it..) 3g-3gs( meh.. really for a compass and vid recording..meh..) smile.gif. Well that's my opinion anyway.


Added on April 6, 2010, 12:59 pmanyway, lets see what the big diff would be.. cause its going to be huge smile.gif
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Individual preference obviously. But to me buying an iPhone without using its function to the max is a serious burner on the wallet. Not using the GPS, accelerometer and the digital compass to good use is really a waste of money. I would rather buy Nokia instead if for basic call function only

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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:27 PM)
I think iPhone 4G wont be available in Malaysia for a period of time after its launch... I guess it will take around a year like previous iPhone generation before our Telco intro to us...
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officially, yes..but once the JB is available.. just go to lowyat n buy laugh.gif
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i just hope 4.0 OS will be stable and wont drain the battery! truly writing here.my iphone 3gs bat drain so fast compare to blackberry. my colleague said his BB can last for 2 day while the 3g is ON! my iphone can only last for a day, nite always nite to recharge already.
but anyway i still prefer apple(iphone) compare to blackberry! Hohohoho!
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99.9% new iPhone coming asap!

Funding begins now thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:27 PM)
I think iPhone 4G wont be available in Malaysia for a period of time after its launch... I guess it will take around a year like previous iPhone generation before our Telco intro to us...
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So what makes you think so? smile.gif After all, you just need to look at the time between the iPhone 3GS launch and the availability in Malaysia as an example.


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99.9% new iPhone coming asap!

Funding begins now  thumbup.gif
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ermm, this is kinda obvious right? The product cycle for iPhones and iPod Touches is once a year after all. Its not too difficult to predict when it'll be released.

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i hope the jb version of iphone os 4.0 comes with an untethered one tongue.gif
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erm... abit out of topic... can i know if the iphones support chinese characters n type sms in chinese??
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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Apr 6 2010, 02:27 PM)
I think iPhone 4G wont be available in Malaysia for a period of time after its launch... I guess it will take around a year like previous iPhone generation before our Telco intro to us...
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i think you dont have a clue how apple doesnt its operations, once a deal is made(DIGI & Maxis), then whatever the hell apple comes out will be avilable for them to sell, why would apple stall iphone models to us? it doesnt make sense, the 3GS made its way here by the end of July, weeks after it was announced, reason for the stall is because of those slowpokes in SIRIM.

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Will 3Gs available to upgrade to os 4 or we need to buy new Iphone?
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Well... We'll still need to wait till it's released to public. Apple always releases stuff at mid of the year.
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Will 3Gs available to upgrade to os 4 or we need to buy new Iphone?
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if its like usual, we can upgrade with out current phone, no need buy new...just firmware upgrade... sweat.gif same apple routine, preview of new OS before releasing their 4th gen monster
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if suddenly iphone 2G and 3G cannot update, sure lots of ppl will be furious
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heard from macrumour the new os will be available for 3g and 3gs
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Perhaps new OS got Quick Reply Sms , Multitasking and many 3Gs lack nowadays.
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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Apr 6 2010, 03:33 PM)
erm... abit out of topic... can i know if the iphones support chinese characters n type sms in chinese??
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iphone always support chinese character & in sms as well...

you juz have to enable it... please refer to the tips
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Sneak peek on April 8th, OS 4.0 update availability in May and iPhone 'HD' in June? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 6 2010, 09:03 PM)
Sneak peek on April 8th, OS 4.0 update availability in May and iPhone 'HD' in June?  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 6 2010, 03:06 PM)
So what makes you think so? smile.gif After all, you just need to look at the time between the iPhone 3GS launch and the availability in Malaysia as an example.


Added on April 6, 2010, 3:07 pm

ermm, this is kinda obvious right? The product cycle for iPhones and iPod Touches is once a year after all. Its not too difficult to predict when it'll be released.
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I was expecting that too until someone told me that this year is iPad's year. If there is going to be a new iPhone, a new OS would have been out months ago.

rclxms.gif Apple has proven him wrong!
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multitasking is nice rolleyes.gif

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My prediction updates for iPhone OS 4.0 - multitasking, higher resolution, better passcode, video conversation, HD capability ~ what else? smile.gif
perhaps it needs a better battery life afterwards. lol
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multitasking mean suck up more juice ?
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please no more juice sucking. we're alls struggling now as it is with battery life
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Yeah, that would happen. It would suck the battery like theres no tomorrow
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Apr 7 2010, 01:41 AM)
Yeah, that would happen. It would suck the battery like theres no tomorrow
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i think there would be the answer for battery life esp...we have ipad battery which is extremely good for apple...something might come up on the new iphone 4g>>>>never know..
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if battery because an even bigger sucker than it currently is, really need external battery pack edi sad.gif
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haha.. tmr update will be come out. waiting for it.. hopefully can come out with the better OS
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I hope they come out with a JB for it fast as well smile.gif
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QUOTE(shinnyx @ Apr 7 2010, 01:29 AM)
My prediction updates for iPhone OS 4.0 - multitasking, higher resolution, better passcode, video conversation, HD capability ~ what else? smile.gif
perhaps it needs a better battery life afterwards. lol
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i wish the new iPhone can support flash and stuff..... making surfing internet lots better
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I thought Apple has officially announced they will ban Flash?
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I thought Apple has officially announced they will ban Flash?
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Apple hates flash, and are put more concentration on HTML5. Video calls on next gen iPhone i reckon.

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My prediction updates for iPhone OS 4.0 - multitasking, higher resolution, better passcode, video conversation, HD capability ~ what else? smile.gif
perhaps it needs a better battery life afterwards. lol
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erm... hihi... we're talking about iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone 4.0?
it seems like in your prediction only "multitasking" and "better passcode" fit in the iPhone OS 4.0
while "higher resolution", "video conversation" and "HD capability" fit in the prediction of iPhone 4.0, which I doubt they will say anything during tomorrow's event otherwise we will then know that the next gen iPhone has "better display" and "front camera", which, Apple will not do so until the iPhone event..
(correct me if I'm wrong then)

If I'm not mistaken this thread is about the new OS and not the new hardware.. hmm.. shouldn't we strictly stick to the discussion of the original thread title?
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sobs sobs i just got my iphone 3GS beginning of the year!!!
if Iphone4.0 come out on JULY need to sell mine and get that 4.0 already!!!
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erm... hihi... we're talking about iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone 4.0?
it seems like in your prediction only "multitasking" and "better passcode" fit in the iPhone OS 4.0
while "higher resolution", "video conversation" and "HD capability" fit in the prediction of iPhone 4.0, which I doubt they will say anything during tomorrow's event otherwise we will then know that the next gen iPhone has "better display" and "front camera", which, Apple will not do so until the iPhone event..
(correct me if I'm wrong then)

If I'm not mistaken this thread is about the new OS and not the new hardware.. hmm.. shouldn't we strictly stick to the discussion of the original thread title?
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The fact that OS 4.0 refers to new iPhone 4G means it's no harm to relate both at all. Afterall, there might be some indication of what hardware there will be in the OS itself. Specific software is needed to run particular hardware similar to what 3.0 showed info regarding to digital compass and video camera last time.
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sobs sobs i just got my iphone 3GS beginning of the year!!!
if Iphone4.0 come out on JULY need to sell mine and get that 4.0 already!!!
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well.. im sure da price will be sky high... n there will be no way u can go for a gadget which is NEW as the technology keep on advancing....
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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Apr 7 2010, 05:46 PM)
well.. im sure da price will be sky high... n there will be no way u can go for a gadget which is NEW as the technology keep on advancing....
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Couldnt agree more.. if keep on chasing what apple churns out, will have huge damages to the wallet.. not everyone can afford to keep in touch with new tech... i too just bought my 3Gs during CNY and will use it for at least two to three more years as it fulfils all my requirements and i dont need features like video call... and best part of iphones is got good resell value

Oh well, by tomorrow night we will all know what exactly 4.0 has to offer in terms of functions and also compatability with 3G and 3Gs but i am sure Apple will not forget the millions of users worldwide using 3G and 3Gs
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or that this happens to be a minor update in terms of features
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hopefully they will come out with a smarter phone to auto configure the 3G and gprs/edge with no possible way to disable it.
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hopefully they will come out with a smarter phone to auto configure the 3G and gprs/edge with no possible way to disable it.
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Honestly, is this such a major problem? Every single telco will have different setting so it's clear configuration need to be done manually..which I think isn't that difficult.


no possible way to disable it

And what good this will be? blink.gif
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Good question. Probably opening a big can of worms here but isn't the ability to be online all the time part of the iPhone experience? Granted that some of you may live / work in areas where there is WiFi most of the time but for those of us who don't having data services means I can have access to emails, twitter,IM etc wherever I am ALL THE TIME.

Case in point - my iPhone has been out of commission for the last 10 days and I've resorted to using the iPod touch again for getting online. It didn't use to bother me that I had to reach home every night before hooking up online and getting my mails etc - after all this was my routine before I got the iPhone last November - but now, it's annoying me to pieces that I get stuck in the traffic and can't check in on my mails. Or send off a tweet.

So, in my personal opinion, everyone who has an iPhone should get some form of data plan to go with it. Yes, it costs extra but we don't moan about having to pay for phone calls, do we? Otherwise, you're better off getting a regular phone and saving some money at the same time.

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well sometime thr is ppl using prepaid sim card for temporary without data usage might need that option..
like me who going back to msia holiday from australia n use back my old hotlink sim card for temporary.i cant disable the data running except call hotlink. so it can drain my RM20 within 10 minutes when i "accidentally" use a data..
n with tht option, u also can turn the data off if u exceeded ur data allowance provided from ur telco so that u wont pay any extra charges...
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I was expecting that too until someone told me that this year is iPad's year. If there is going to be a new iPhone, a new OS would have been out months ago.

rclxms.gif  Apple has proven him wrong!
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Right, and what does an 'iPad' year has got to do with the iPhone? Basically we're talking about 2 different types of devices here, where one is a tablet, and the other is a phone.

I'll make the distinction even clearer for you. Can you make phone calls with the iPad via a cecullar network? And even if you can, do you really want to hold something of that size to your ear? laugh.gif

And then, let's take a look at the timelines for the release of a new OS vs new phones shall we?

The iPhone 3GS launch was just 2 days after the release of a major firmware update, which was the 3.0 last year, with the first developer betas released a few months before.

Looking at this year, it does look like the same timeline is being followed. New major firmware update announcement being made a few months before a hardware refresh of the phone too.


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QUOTE(piscesguy1314 @ Apr 7 2010, 04:46 PM)
well.. im sure da price will be sky high... n there will be no way u can go for a gadget which is NEW as the technology keep on advancing....
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Actually, I'm expecting the price to be about the same as the 3GS still.

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QUOTE(shdwkillr @ Apr 7 2010, 03:04 PM)
erm... hihi... we're talking about iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone 4.0?
it seems like in your prediction only "multitasking" and "better passcode" fit in the iPhone OS 4.0
while "higher resolution", "video conversation" and "HD capability" fit in the prediction of iPhone 4.0, which I doubt they will say anything during tomorrow's event otherwise we will then know that the next gen iPhone has "better display" and "front camera", which, Apple will not do so until the iPhone event..
(correct me if I'm wrong then)

If I'm not mistaken this thread is about the new OS and not the new hardware.. hmm.. shouldn't we strictly stick to the discussion of the original thread title?
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since iphone OS 4.0 will be in iphone 4th gen, nothing wrong to speculate hehe. e.g. if iphone OS 4.0 supports videocall, then we can bet iphone 4th gen will have front facing camera

hm i forgot where i read but, A4 chip, unlike the snapdragon, cannot videocall? but i dun mind lah, i nvr videocall...still feels awkward to me tongue.gif

we shud know something about the resolution too. but then i hope it stays the same smile.gif
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Right, and what does an 'iPad' year has got to do with the iPhone? Basically we're talking about 2 different types of devices here, where one is a tablet, and the other is a phone.

I'll make the distinction even clearer for you. Can you make phone calls with the iPad via a cecullar network? And even if you can, do you really want to hold something of that size to your ear?  laugh.gif

And then, let's take a look at the timelines for the release of a new OS vs new phones shall we?

The iPhone 3GS launch was just 2 days after the release of a major firmware update, which was the 3.0 last year, with the first developer betas released a few months before.

Looking at this year, it does look like the same timeline is being followed. New major firmware update announcement being made a few months before a hardware refresh of the phone too.


Added on April 7, 2010, 9:24 pm

Actually, I'm expecting the price to be about the same as the 3GS still.
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Really looking forward to 4.0!
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QUOTE(unioptom @ Apr 7 2010, 07:07 PM)
Good question. Probably opening a big can of worms here but isn't the ability to be online all the time part of the iPhone experience? Granted that some of you may live / work in areas where there is WiFi most of the time but for those of us who don't having data services means I can have access to emails, twitter,IM etc wherever I am ALL THE TIME.

Case in point - my iPhone has been out of commission for the last 10 days and I've resorted to using the iPod touch again for getting online. It didn't use to bother me that I had to reach home every night before hooking up online and getting my mails etc - after all this was my routine before I got the iPhone last November - but now, it's annoying me to pieces that I get stuck in the traffic and can't check in on my mails. Or send off a tweet.

So, in my personal opinion, everyone who has an iPhone should get some form of data plan to go with it. Yes, it costs extra but we don't moan about having to pay for phone calls, do we? Otherwise, you're better off getting a regular phone and saving some money at the same time.

My two cents smile.gif
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Indeed that is the idea. I have never turn off 3g as well be it low in juice or in wifi area.

But his idea of constant availability of 3g is perplexing due to the fact that it's an optional setting. A personalization.

Just simply on/off at any time that you want. An individual choice. Why would he prefer this setting to be omitted? doh.gif

If he wishes to have 3g on 24-7, then don't change the setting.

As simple as that.

Though, our prolonged discussion has seem to complicate things biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 7 2010, 09:56 PM)
since iphone OS 4.0 will be in iphone 4th gen, nothing wrong to speculate hehe. e.g. if iphone OS 4.0 supports videocall, then we can bet iphone 4th gen will have front facing camera

hm i forgot where i read but, A4 chip, unlike the snapdragon, cannot videocall? but i dun mind lah, i nvr videocall...still feels awkward to me tongue.gif

we shud know something about the resolution too. but then i hope it stays the same smile.gif
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Quite a lot of industry sources claim that Apple has purchased 5MP sensor including flash as well. But I would like to see improvement in the performance of the sensor itself rather than higher MP. But obviously is going to be a bonus to have higher MP.

But the core deficiency presently is indoor quality picture. iPhone suffers in this department. Even though most digital camera particularly camera phone speak the same volume, I've seen better camera phone than iPhone when taking picture indoor

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lol.. today is 8 april de.. looking forward on the announcement wondering which os will come out
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Now the news is about OS 4.0 and the event is to introduce about OS4.0

Can iPhone 3GS be upgraded from OS3.0 to OS4.0?

A lot of discussions here about iPhone 4G or iPhone HD. Although it will surely be using OS4.0 but I think the event is about OS, not the new iPhone 4G with its hardware or spec.

Previously older version of iPhone and iPod are able to upgrade their firmware to latest firmware?
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Apr 8 2010, 12:41 AM)
Now the news is about OS 4.0 and the event is to introduce about OS4.0

Can iPhone 3GS be upgraded from OS3.0 to OS4.0?

A lot of discussions here about iPhone 4G or iPhone HD.  Although it will surely be using OS4.0 but I think the event is about OS, not the new iPhone 4G with its hardware or spec.

Previously older version of iPhone and iPod are able to upgrade their firmware to latest firmware?
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like last time.... iphone 3g can use 3.0 fw... i do not see any problem for iphone 3gs with 4.0fw...

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can upgrade de la.. because 3g also can go until 3.1.2.. 3gs can go to 4.0 de
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OS 4.0 sure will give some clues on what iphone 4th gen is smile.gif

so far all iphones n ipod touch can upgrade to the latest firmware. since the next iphone is likely to be based on the same cortex A8, so it should be a smooth upgrade
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lol.. today is 8 april de.. looking forward on the announcement wondering which os will come out
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April 8th there, 9th April here. Somewhere around 1 am I guess
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How about a guess on who will be holding the keynote? Steve? Phil?? Scott?? hmm......
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Sneak peak of the iPhone OS 4 in 15 hours! drool.gif drool.gif

http://live.slashgear.com/

Go there to see the whole thing live at 1 AM!
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Apr 8 2010, 02:41 AM)
Now the news is about OS 4.0 and the event is to introduce about OS4.0

Can iPhone 3GS be upgraded from OS3.0 to OS4.0?

A lot of discussions here about iPhone 4G or iPhone HD.  Although it will surely be using OS4.0 but I think the event is about OS, not the new iPhone 4G with its hardware or spec.

Previously older version of iPhone and iPod are able to upgrade their firmware to latest firmware?
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the event is about OS and not new model of iphone. we just PREDICT with new OS come out, sure new model of iphone will b out soon..we not saying the event about new iphone too
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new os coming out soon.. hopefully have a huge update of the function..
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there going be bomb or not???on the next os..hope for great push by apple...
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Obviously next generation iPhone will be using iPhone OS 4.
Hence, the sneak peak of iPhone OS 4 will definitely list out more details for the next generation iPhone. In case it supports higher resolution, means there's a chance for the next iPhone to support it too.

Anyway, i think the iPhone OS 4 will focus on iPad at the moment.
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hopefully our telco will offer attractive plan for the New iPhone...
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Here are some livefeed links for iPhone OS 4.0 event for those who are gonna be watching or following the feed.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-fr...one-os-4-event/

http://live.gizmodo.com/

http://live.slashgear.com/

I have place these links on the first post as well. If you have other livefeed links, please post it up and i will post them on the first post.

Btw, please keep this thread clean without spamming. All oneliners or emoticon spam will be deleted for tonites event..

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 6 2010, 01:11 AM)
so far even the 1st gen iphone still can upgrade to OS 3.0... shud be able to upgrade to 4.0 i guess smile.gif

actually-useful standby screen please... n easy way to switch tabs in safari tongue.gif
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hopefully our telco will offer attractive plan for the New iPhone...
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I dont think so telco will offer attractive plan... If the plan cheaper, then the service quality still bad.

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I can see many hoping for multitasking and hd support.wat bout bluetooth transfer? icon_idea.gif If jailbreaking cn do it,i blif it will be piece of cake for apple
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i heard someone said that they r going to charge some $ for the latest OS. a friend told me...is it true? anyone heard anything about it? or just my friend blurr...
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oh gous.. i think impossible bcos if charge money i think people will just stay at 3.1.2 rather to pay..
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oh gous.. i think impossible bcos if charge money i think people will just stay at 3.1.2 rather to pay..
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it depends...if the features and upgrades it offer is well worth,y not smile.gif rather than u spend a few Ks more on a new iphone

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i think the charges only apply to ipod touch or mayb iphone 3g
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i heard someone said that they r going to charge some $ for the latest OS. a friend told me...is it true? anyone heard anything about it? or just my friend blurr...
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normally, they goin to charge for ipod and ipad....

they will not charge for iphone
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i think that.. if rely charge probably will go to 2g or ipod touch.. 3gs probably won't get charge.. however hopefully nothing will be charge on new os..
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hmmmmmm.......

Question..
Once Apple presents the OS 4.0 do you think it will be available immediately after the presentation or just a showcase for a upgrade available in the near future...

I fear it could be the latter to fuel next Iphone launch...
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it definitely wont be available instantly after the presentation thats for sure
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QUOTE(Evirober @ Apr 8 2010, 11:17 PM)
hmmmmmm.......

Question..
Once Apple presents the OS 4.0 do you think it will be available immediately after the presentation or just a showcase for a upgrade available in the near future...

I fear it could be the latter to fuel next Iphone launch...
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For sure there's no immediate availability.... the words "sneak peek" in the banner means all....
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Added on April 9, 2010, 12:16 amhmm.gif gizmodo updates more frequent, so tukar channel lahh tongue.gif

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They must bring out the news and introduction to capture some of the potential buyers who are slowly shifting into other latest model of smartphones by other company.

By making these announcements, they could bring up the heat back to iPhone after a year, with so many new releases of other smartphone earlier this year. Buyers will stop and stay in observation stance.

If Apple could offer better and more attractive OS, then people will wait and stop the market of HTC, Google and etc.
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i was hoping for bluetooth printing/stereo headphone profile support. please dont disappoint me tongue.gif

I see the printing feature as a big plus for ipad tho
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Its all about playing with emotions, curiousness and marketing strategy which Apple has trump most if not all competitions out there time & time again.
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ITS STARTING RIGHT NOW!
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Apple will start with announcing how many iPad they sold over the week tongue.gif
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multitasking with docks biggrin.gif naise
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so, is that means this firmware is ONLY for iphone 3gs? how about ipod touch 1g/2g/3g?
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my apps are on the 11th page tongue.gif
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"Our 6th tent pole is Game Center. This is a dev preview for OS 4. Gaming is extremely popular on the iPhone and iPod touch. We have 50,000 games. Let's compare that to the competition... the PSP and DS... we blow them out of the water."

This is nice biggrin.gif
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i guess ad revenue is one of the luxurious income for apple if they really venture into it. look at the number of iPhone users.
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So, our old iPhone 3GS can't switch to this OS 4? We need to buy this OS? Sorry for the noob Q as I'm a new iPhone user.
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All the other iphone ad companies are crying right now i guess tongue.gif

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but this iphone trend is like never ending,u get 4g now next year 5g or watever gen will come out.if got money then chasing is no prob
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but this iphone trend is like never ending,u get 4g now next year 5g or watever gen will come out.if got money then chasing is no prob
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considering that u sell off ur old iphone to get the new one, i would say you would be spending roughly rm1k for a new iphone every year.
i've seen people spend rm3k on PC gaming systems that would last them for 2 years before they have to pay another 3k for a new system.
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the best among all the multitasking and finally as i wanted the ebooks ...
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QUOTE(chizzu @ Apr 9 2010, 02:02 AM)
yeah, of course they want a bigger share on a big gold mine tongue.gif

All the other iphone ad companies are crying right now i guess tongue.gif
You can. just need a software update smile.gif
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QUOTE(namee @ Apr 9 2010, 02:06 AM)
hmm... still no sign of flashplayer ..aihhh ..if they have the flashplayer ...
They will be the biggest winner of all mobile in the world.
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QUOTE(namee @ Apr 9 2010, 02:06 AM)
hmm... still no sign of flashplayer ..aihhh ..if they have the flashplayer ...
They will be the biggest winner of all mobile in the world.
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without flash also they are the biggest winner, html5 for the future
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wahhhh bila mau out IPhone 4 / Iphone HD?
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LOL. Apple has stated in the very very beginning as they launch the 1st iphone. they will totally left out flash and concentrate on HTML5.
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QUOTE(chizzu @ Apr 9 2010, 02:07 AM)
ask Adobe for tht tongue.gif

Steve say they were lazy laugh.gif
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becoz when everything comes togethers...it's all about money $$ in the end of the day ..

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QUOTE(shockk @ Apr 9 2010, 02:05 AM)
considering that u sell off ur old iphone to get the new one, i would say you would be spending roughly rm1k for a new iphone every year.
i've seen people spend rm3k on PC gaming systems that would last them for 2 years before they have to pay another 3k for a new system.
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i rmb maxis is doin a trade in old iphone for new iphone promo.hope they do it agn this year
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QUOTE(chizzu @ Apr 9 2010, 02:07 AM)
ask Adobe for tht tongue.gif

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7 Tentpoles of Iphone OS 4.0
1. Multitasking
2. Folders
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6. Game Kit
7. iAd

And these are just seven of the 100 new user features.

When can we use the other 93 features?
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IMO, Iphone 3g not support multitasking due to the processor (420mhz) and 128mb memory. Even play some more memory consuming game also can hang/auto close so how can it support multitasking.
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Apr 9 2010, 02:07 AM)
without flash also they are the biggest winner, html5 for the future
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yeah HTML5 FTW!

I ditch flash for javascript and HTML5

QUOTE(namee @ Apr 9 2010, 02:08 AM)
i think la ...they might have some issues with adobe i guess ....
becoz when everything comes togethers...it's all about money $$ in the end of the day ..
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No its just flash is very sluggish and adobe dont bother to improve it for iphone tongue.gif
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any 3rd gen iphone will be able to upgrade to 4.0?
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okay, my ipod touch 1g seems useless. can throw it away d. Sigh. outdated gadget
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i think later might have a 'one last thing...' heheh. maybe preview iPhone 4.0 later.
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HTML5 is the future. I'm satisfied with OS 4.0 smile.gif
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Apr 9 2010, 02:11 AM)
any 3rd gen iphone will be able to upgrade to 4.0?
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1st gen iphone/ipd touch is being left out

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QUOTE(chizzu @ Apr 9 2010, 02:10 AM)
yeah HTML5 FTW!

I ditch flash for javascript and HTML5
No its just flash is very sluggish and adobe dont bother to improve it for iphone tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Apr 9 2010, 02:11 AM)
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My friends were expecting Apple to announce next gen iPhone.
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Q: Will there be an ad approval process? A: (Jobs... super long pause) Um... well there's going to be some process... but these people are paying to run ads. So, I'm not sure it'll be anything other than a light touch.

- Again, showing Steve is really making the gold mine half for Apple. hahaa
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it feels good to have an iPhone 3GS tongue.gif

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Lack of flash is total bullshit, Android and Palm runs them without a hitch.
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someone has already asked ..lol

Jason Chen:

Q: Is there going to be any change in Apple’s position on Java or Flash on version four?
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QUOTE(chizzu @ Apr 9 2010, 02:13 AM)
it feels good to have an iPhone 3GS tongue.gif
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it feels even better to have 4G icon_idea.gif
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damn f***ed up...!!!

apparently multitasking will not be supported on iPhone 3G and 2nd-gen iPod Touch...

well, I guess this is how Apple treat its customers with their products 2 generations behind, leaving them unsupported, just like how they abandon 64-bit support on 1st gen Mac Pro, also 2 generations behind...
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:08 AM)
does maxis allow me to sell the phone if im tied to contract?

i rmb maxis is doin a trade in old iphone for new iphone promo.hope they do it agn this year
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most likely they will have like what they did for the iphone 3gs rm500 rebate to iphone 3g buyers =D
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those ads are powered by HTML5. eat that flash ads tongue.gif
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QUOTE(namee @ Apr 9 2010, 02:15 AM)
someone has already asked ..lol

Jason Chen:

Q: Is there going to be any change in Apple’s position on Java or Flash on version four?
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this is the answer that i expected him to asnwer. hahaha
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Apr 9 2010, 02:15 AM)
damn f***ed up...!!!

apparently multitasking will not be supported on iPhone 3G and 2nd-gen iPod Touch...

well, I guess this is how Apple treat its customers with their products 2 generations behind, leaving them unsupported, just like how they abandon 64-bit support on 1st gen Mac Pro, also 2 generations behind...
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Apr 9 2010, 02:15 AM)
damn f***ed up...!!!

apparently multitasking will not be supported on iPhone 3G and 2nd-gen iPod Touch...

well, I guess this is how Apple treat its customers with their products 2 generations behind, leaving them unsupported, just like how they abandon 64-bit support on 1st gen Mac Pro, also 2 generations behind...
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Apple want's to maintain their image, perhaps.
iPhone 3G with multitask enabled might be crashing constantly and Steve certainly doesn't want to see that happening to many! lol
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Lack of flash is total bullshit, Android and Palm runs them without a hitch.
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flash lacks of security, required high resources and drain battery. it's not a smart choice to run it on mobile devices.
Moreover, HTML5 is a better choice.
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Apr 9 2010, 02:15 AM)
damn f***ed up...!!!

apparently multitasking will not be supported on iPhone 3G and 2nd-gen iPod Touch...

well, I guess this is how Apple treat its customers with their products 2 generations behind, leaving them unsupported, just like how they abandon 64-bit support on 1st gen Mac Pro, also 2 generations behind...
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thats why i saw you selling off ur mac pro? sometimes they are forced to abandon the old. if the old dont go, where comes the new one?
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Very smart move from Apple to implement iAds in iPhone OS.
You have to watch those ads no matter what.

Seems like Steve Jobs is revenging on Google's involvement into smart phone market. hmm.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(shockk @ Apr 9 2010, 02:18 AM)
Apple want's to maintain their image, perhaps.
iPhone 3G with multitask enabled might be crashing constantly and Steve certainly doesn't want to see that happening to many! lol
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Backgrounding on iPhone 3G seems ok on my friend's JB-ed unit.
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Apple always treat 2 generation machine with no Key features..
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QUOTE(Shoki @ Apr 9 2010, 02:19 AM)
Backgrounding on iPhone 3G seems ok on my friend's JB-ed unit.
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try a few more apps or games and see it suffer tongue.gif
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ad income is a big gold mine. ppl do the ads, pays apple to advertise it. apple put them on iphone, pays developer 60% and they get 40%. its a good deal to be middle man and earn almost half of the income tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Shoki @ Apr 9 2010, 02:19 AM)
Backgrounding on iPhone 3G seems ok on my friend's JB-ed unit.
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how many background? in OS 4 they can run 4 (showed in the demo)
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QUOTE(shinnyx @ Apr 9 2010, 02:18 AM)
flash lacks of security, required high resources and drain battery. it's not a smart choice to run it on mobile devices.
Moreover, HTML5 is a better choice.
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How so? Android doesn't seem to be crashing every 5 mins or lasting less than a minute while running flash.


HTML5 is still in its crawling stages whereas Flash is used in 95% of the plugins in the Web. It would be ludicrous to not support Flash, just like not releasing a Windows iTunes.
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QUOTE(shinnyx @ Apr 9 2010, 02:18 AM)
flash lacks of security, required high resources and drain battery. it's not a smart choice to run it on mobile devices.
Moreover, HTML5 is a better choice.
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seems like HTML5 owned flash. Besides, its a really good fight back to Flash, Google android and BB notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(chizzu @ Apr 9 2010, 02:20 AM)
ad income is a big gold mine. ppl do the ads, pays apple to advertise it. apple put them on iphone, pays developer 60% and they get 40%. its a good deal to be middle man and earn almost half of the income tongue.gif
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For the first time I feel that ads on my phone will be kinda cool.
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QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 02:19 AM)
thats why i saw you selling off ur mac pro? sometimes they are forced to abandon the old. if the old dont go, where comes the new one?
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nah... my current Mac Pro is a 3rd gen... a replacement of my 1st gen when I wrote in to complain about the 64-bit lack of support amongst many other issues, coincidentally having an apple service provider screwing things up entitled me such replacement...

but this is deja vu.... mad.gif

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QUOTE(Shock @ Apr 9 2010, 02:20 AM)
how many background? in OS 4 they can run 4 (showed in the demo)
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i think it can run more than 4,steve mention u can scroll through the running apps
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QUOTE(Voxe @ Apr 9 2010, 02:21 AM)
How so? Android doesn't seem to be crashing every 5 mins or lasting less than a minute while running flash.
HTML5 is still in its crawling stages whereas Flash is used in 95% of the plugins in the Web. It would be ludicrous to not support Flash, just like not releasing a Windows iTunes.
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Well, like i said, take it or leave it. If you dont like, just get Android. Not mean to offense you but we all knows that Flash is probably wont appear on iphone/ipad/ipod.
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i don't like iAd, hope can JB and disable it tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:22 AM)
i think it can run more than 4,steve mention u can scroll through the running apps
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Yup, but at least os 4 can run 4 and i 100% sure 3g phone will crash kau kau...lol

Anyway GOOD NIGHT everyone, havve a good dream on OS 4. *need some sleep, working past 12 hour and need wake up in 3 hour time*

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Also, when Steve was asked if there were plans to add Flash or java, his response was a flat: No.,,
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QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 02:23 AM)
Well, like i said, take it or leave it. If you dont like, just get Android. Not mean to offense you but we all knows that Flash is probably wont appear on iphone/ipad/ipod.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:22 AM)
i think it can run more than 4,steve mention u can scroll through the running apps
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actually is there any fingerswipe shortcut or special button to switch apps? pressing the home-button twice to go to recent apps can't be the only way, right? they should implement like a 4 finger swipe just like Expose on MaC OS X
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Apr 9 2010, 02:22 AM)
but this is deja vu....  mad.gif
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Added on April 9, 2010, 2:26 am
QUOTE(Shock @ Apr 9 2010, 02:24 AM)
Yup, but at least os 4 can run 4 and i 100% sure 3g phone will crash kau kau...lol

Anyway GOOD NIGHT everyone, havve a good dream on OS 4. *need some sleep, working past 12 hour and need wake up in 3 hour time*
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Well, in the same time, Steve is pushing the sales of iphone 3gs. Seems like there will be more than 100% iphone sales increased in next quarter.

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“There was no decision to make as far as multitasking. Some of the earlier hardware can’t support multitasking at all.” – Jobs
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QUOTE(shockk @ Apr 9 2010, 02:25 AM)
actually is there any fingerswipe shortcut or special button to switch apps? pressing the home-button twice to go to recent apps can't be the only way, right? they should implement like a 4 finger swipe just like Expose on MaC OS X
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actually i'm still a bit dumb about the whole multitask thing,need to watch a video of the whole demo
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QUOTE(Voxe @ Apr 9 2010, 02:21 AM)
How so? Android doesn't seem to be crashing every 5 mins or lasting less than a minute while running flash.
HTML5 is still in its crawling stages whereas Flash is used in 95% of the plugins in the Web. It would be ludicrous to not support Flash, just like not releasing a Windows iTunes.
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Outdated technologies will always be replaced in the computer world.
Obviously Flash is not the best solution on mobile devices.
Perhaps Abode comes with other alternative solutions for iPhone, such as Adobe AIR. cool.gif
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“There was no decision to make as far as multitasking. Some of the earlier hardware can’t support multitasking at all.” – Jobs
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True, but still many iPhone 3G owners would be really disappointed and angry. Maybe Apple will put Multitasking as an option for iPhone 3G later?

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:28 AM)
actually i'm still a bit dumb about the whole multitask thing,need to watch a video of the whole demo
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well, I really hope the double-click home-button to switch apps is not the only way. the button itself is not very nice to press on and it can wear out with heavy usage. sigh.
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QUOTE(ZaRnX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:25 AM)
wee~ i smell firepower

“We do not have any plans to become a worldwide ad agency. We tried to buy a company called admob, and Google came in and snatched them from us. We bought Quattro instead. They’re teaching us and we’re learning as fast as we can.”
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Its a good revenge on google =) Google taught Apple something and Apple now is practicing it back to em'

QUOTE(Voxe @ Apr 9 2010, 02:25 AM)
You misunderstood my intentions. I do agree that Apple has left Flash for dead but its stupid to think that Flash is irrelevant and weak.
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“There was no decision to make as far as multitasking. Some of the earlier hardware can’t support multitasking at all.” – Jobs
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What does this mean actually? i dont really get it.
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QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 02:31 AM)
What does this mean actually? i dont really get it.
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i think wat he means is the processor and ram of earlier iphones,they are slower and running multitask on them won't be a good idea
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:33 AM)
i think wat he means is the processor and ram of earlier iphones,they are slower and running multitask on them won't be a good idea
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A: There is a porn store for Android to go to. You can download them, your kids can download them. That’s a place we don’t want to go. We’re not going to go there.

Probably shooting Android with full power.
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QUOTE(shockk @ Apr 9 2010, 02:31 AM)
True, but still many iPhone 3G owners would be really disappointed and angry. Maybe Apple will put Multitasking as an option for iPhone 3G later?
well, I really hope the double-click home-button to switch apps is not the only way. the button itself is not very nice to press on and it can wear out with heavy usage. sigh.
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Very true indeed, the home button on my 3G is kind of rosak already, not very responsive, needs to press a few times.
Anyway, 3G wont be having multi task also. Maybe it's time to upgrade. laugh.gif
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i'm not disappointed at all seriously, when you've used the phone for so long, you know the limits

and multitasking for 3G is definitely pushing the envelope. JB for OS4.0 would be great edi brows.gif

and so much actions on a stupid button, the home button will be gone in no time with wear and tear. Mine after 1 1/2 years of abuse, its gonna give way soon enough, i have to press with force nowadays for the home button.
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True, but still many iPhone 3G owners would be really disappointed and angry. Maybe Apple will put Multitasking as an option for iPhone 3G later?
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I mean it's understandable that the original iPhone and the 1st gen iPod Touch may not be able to multitask due to hardware limitations. AFAIK, 1st gen Touch is already slow on OS3. 2nd and 3rd gen Touch is not much of a difference other than the most apparent, the in-built processing speed, probably GPU unit...

And for that minute differences, they're ending support for Multitasking on both iPhone 3G and the 2nd gen Touch...?
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Seems like http://live.gizmodo.com/ is providing more Question Session than Engadget.
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im waiting for the video to be out, nothing like watching it smile.gif if anyone has links pls do share
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estimated release mid june-late july... wahhh damn long time more
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Q: Are you concerned about leaving out your older customer base (with the lack of features for older devices). A: (Steve) Well, a lot of these products that are out there are the most recent products. The old devices will get the update, but they'll miss some of these features like multitasking. If that's an incentive for them to upgrade to a new device... terrific.

Seems like Steve is answering to you, Eithanius. haha
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@Eithanius
that's not a minute differrence,
it is a huge one with the processing speed,
processing speed on first gen iphone and 3G is very very similar.
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Okay, the Press is over. Time to sleep. Good Day 2.42am
Iphone 4.0 SDK (BETA) is available to download here

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what.. No iphone 4g?
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what.. No iphone 4g?
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so long they are still selling buttloads of iphone 3Gs, i don't think they will bother with iphone 4G yet, as the costs of making iphone 3Gs go down, they still selling same price = profit. probably iphone 4G when they need to fight competitor hardware
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try looking at past launching dates
everything points to the mid june/july period

i wouldn't say definitely but in my selective perception it is a definite one already smile.gif
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QUOTE(ktooken @ Apr 9 2010, 02:57 AM)
so long they are still selling buttloads of iphone 3Gs, i don't think they will bother with iphone 4G yet, as the costs of making iphone 3Gs go down, they still selling same price = profit. probably iphone 4G when they need to fight competitor hardware
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Added on April 9, 2010, 3:10 amFor those who missed the live show, check out this page for coverage on some key features in the OS 4.

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when will the official os4 download be up?

*nevermind i got my answer, heh

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when will the official os4 download be up?
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check this out

http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/
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i guess this is super great news for those non-jber. I can imagine now my friend's face who is a non-jber after this os is released, lol


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i guess this is super great news for those non-jber. I can imagine now my friend's face who is a non-jber after this os is released, lol
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Okay, this is what you guys has been waiting so long. Watch the live HERE!
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MULTITASKING IS HERE lol!

anyways, it seems the 4.0 OS needs to use alot of juice. only 3gs could afford to do multitasking....

and i do think that the new iphone will be in 2010 by looking at the functions of the 4.0 OS. but i might be wrong...
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Q: Are you concerned about leaving out your older customer base (with the lack of features for older devices). A: (Steve) Well, a lot of these products that are out there are the most recent products. The old devices will get the update, but they'll miss some of these features like multitasking. If that's an incentive for them to upgrade to a new device... terrific.

Seems like Steve is answering to you, Eithanius. haha
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here's something that I do wonder about. Those like the 2G iPhone wont be able to get the upgrade. However those ppl who are still using the 2G, do they really make use of the newer features?

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seems like 4G is nt very near?
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seems like 4G is nt very near?
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here's something that I do wonder about. Those like the 2G iPhone wont be able to get the upgrade. However those ppl who are still using the 2G, do they really make use of the newer features?
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i think it depends on the user. most of the user that are interested with the new functions will probably sell their iphone off. Then for those who is dont really care or need about the new features, they will stay back. just finished watching the replay of live. Too bad the Q&A section is not included.
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sadly, it's not for iphone 3G.. cry.gif
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But my 2G reli charm..... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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looks like multitasking not affect the performance of iphone 3gs so much...not bad..i love the UI effect when open n close apps
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looks like multitasking not affect the performance of iphone 3gs so much...not bad..i love the UI effect when open n close apps
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I don't think they'd create something that didn't give their consumers a "smooth" experience when using their product.
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its a joy seeing 4.0 is coming, will definitely upgrade to 4.0 when its released. don't even need jailbreak for 4.0, but too bad i really hope the new os would support transfering files over bluetooth
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Whoa..I left it at page 5 yesterday and now we are already 11 pages in front.

BTW, to those questioning the unavailability of several key features of 4.0 to 3g, I guess steve has summed it up.

But I just want to reiterate that other than hardware issue, it's just simply marketing strategy.
If Apple give it all out to all older versions, then when will Apple get that massive sale for the latest iPhone?

Plus, flash on iphone is not related to hardware issue. I believe it can be done. But there must be some unsettled business or a dispute in agreement with Adobe.

Bluetooth file transfer I reckon is also a settled business. There's no way they will let us transfer files and songs without breaching the copyright issue.

In the mean time, I love all the first 4 features while the rest does not really of my interest.

Really hoping they won't left out vid call by this summer though.

Let see what analyst and dev can dig up from the beta. Hopefully something juicy like vid call.

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QUOTE(mrportable @ Apr 9 2010, 10:14 AM)
its a joy seeing 4.0 is coming, will definitely upgrade to 4.0 when its released. don't even need jailbreak for 4.0, but too bad i really hope the new os would support transfering files over bluetooth
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Yeah, that's a feature that the iPhone has been lacking since day 1. And I don't think they plan on implementing it anytime soon as well. But I think most of us iPhone users have grown to get used to it. Right? tongue.gif
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Gotta love the new OS 4 !
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Apr 9 2010, 10:26 AM)
Whoa..I left it at page 5 yesterday and now we are already 11 pages in front.

BTW, to those questioning the unavailability of several key features of 4.0 to 3g, I guess steve has summed it up.

But I just want to reiterate that other than hardware issue, it's just simply marketing strategy.
If Apple give it all out to all older versions, then when will Apple get that massive sale for the latest iPhone?

Plus, flash on iphone is not related to hardware issue. I believe it can be done. But there must be some unsettled business or a dispute in agreement with Adobe.

Bluetooth file transfer I reckon is also a settled business. There's no way they will let us transfer files and songs without breaching the copyright issue.

In the mean time, I love all the first 4 features while the rest does not really of my interest.

Really hoping they won't left out vid call by this summer though.

Let see what analyst and dev can dig up from the beta. Hopefully something juicy like vid call.
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yes..this just the OS preview..we might expected something bigger o the new iphone 4....flash/hotmail is never going be supported by iphone or ipad..thank god iphone had come with the html5..like the ipad..so one problem solve...well i think bluetooth is never to be there for file thransfer esp music...because of copyright issue in itunes...
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has anyone joined iPhone Developer Program to try out 4.0 beta?
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hope it will bring video camera software for iphone 3g too..
wondering the camera zoom is clearer than 3rd party apps or not
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looking like the iphonbe 4.0 release and the upcoming iphone 4..the reason of jailbreaking is breaking off....for my point of view....there are more things coming up like sms search...auto replying...persistent wifi..and many more...apple is pushing jail breaking awy..thats good move by them...

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hope it will bring video camera software for iphone 3g too..
wondering the camera zoom is clearer than 3rd party apps or not
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i think they will...but its high time for those living on 2nd gen ipod touch and iphone 2g move up..towards the new product....

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Multi-tasking and folders already can work smoothly on Jailbroken 3GS. I can run StreetFighter 4, read documents and browse the internet at the same time - 0 Lag...And we can add few thousands of apps on iphone and put in Categories(folders).

So I guess if 3rd party apps can make it work wonderfully, official features should be more amazing.
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QUOTE(Crazyboyrs @ Apr 9 2010, 10:56 AM)
Multi-tasking and folders already can work smoothly on Jailbroken 3GS. I can run StreetFighter 4, read documents and browse the internet at the same time - 0 Lag...And we can add few thousands of apps on iphone and put in Categories(folders).

So I guess if 3rd party apps can make it work wonderfully, official features should be more amazing.
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u've tried out beta version? read reviews from some users the multitasking makes it a bit laggy on 3Gs
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all these hype and no video call still?
what a letdown..
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QUOTE(chenster @ Apr 9 2010, 11:03 AM)
all these hype and no video call still?
what a letdown..
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if that's possible, the camera is on the back... so how to video call?


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all these hype and no video call still?
what a letdown..
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all these hype and no video call still?
what a letdown..
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so sad, my iphone 2G not compatible with OS4.
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:11 PM)
if that's possible, the camera is on the back... so how to video call?
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n not only got front camera only can video call..my previous phone, n6630 can make video call by camera at the back..
but i think current iphone hardware not support video call
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Don't worry. Iphone 4G sure have a camera at the front. Got a supplier supplied these part to Apple.

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but the iphone 4.0 SDK already have the ichat API...
so i expect them to announce this in yesterday's 4.0 preview as one of the tentpole functions..
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 9 2010, 11:20 AM)
n not only got front camera only can video call..my previous phone, n6630 can make video call by camera at the back..
but i think current iphone hardware not support video call
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Yup but it's ridiculous.

Reason is, it will make you look like a dork for looking and smiling at the back of your camera while chatting with your friend. biggrin.gif

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but the iphone 4.0 SDK already have the ichat API...
so i expect them to announce this in yesterday's 4.0 preview as one of the tentpole functions..
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 9 2010, 11:20 AM)
n not only got front camera only can video call..my previous phone, n6630 can make video call by camera at the back..
but i think current iphone hardware not support video call
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yeah i know.. but wheres the fun of having a video call if u cant see the people u video calling? (well perhaps a mirror would do the trick lol) i rather dont want the video call if thats the way its going to be....
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:42 PM)
yeah i know.. but wheres the fun of having a video call if u cant see the people u video calling? (well perhaps a mirror would do the trick lol) i rather dont want the video call if thats the way its going to be....
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lol..thts what i meant..thr is possible can have video call without front cam but it is weird n not fun like u said..

btw thr also some codes for camera flash in new os..so next iphone will have flash?
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I always think that if, by any chance Apple is going to introduce video call, it must be something really good.

And good does not mean come from Apple alone, but the network that support such capability must be excellent as well.

Case in point, video call on current 3.5g still have serious frame rate issue, and voice lag of about 2-3 seconds.

The new HTC Evo released recently in US has a 1.3MP front camera for a very good reason. It's a Wimax phone.

So unless iPhone 4G brings any network enhancement in the form of LTE or the lesser probability of Wimax, I don't think this feature will ever be released.

Video call needs matured technology, before it can work beautifully.

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wow page 17 already!

anyway juz wanna confirm...1st gen ipod touch cannot upgrade to 4.0 right?

all in all a great update biggrin.gif so many improvements from 3.0 compared to 2.0 -> 3.0 last time. those with 3GS and 3rd gen ipod touch sure very happy now!
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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Apr 9 2010, 11:51 AM)
I always think that if, by any chance Apple is going to introduce video call, it must be something really good.

And good does not mean come from Apple alone, but the network that support such capability must be excellent as well.

Case in point, video call on current 3.5g still have serious frame rate issue, and voice lag of about 2-3 seconds.

The new HTC Evo released recently in US has a 1.3MP front camera for a very good reason. It's a Wimax phone.

So unless iPhone 4G brings any network enhancement in the form of LTE or the lesser probability of Wimax, I don't think this feature will ever be released.

Video call needs matured technology, before it can work beautifully.
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somehow i got to agree with u on the maturity of the video call. eventhou its been sometimes, this technology seems to be laggy and sluggish. i wont think apple would put that just to satisfy us. even with this multitasking it took sometimes to make it to the iphone (well only 3gs would enjoy this.)
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haha.. serious so nice.. that those function that coming soon.. wondering when is it come out?? JB tool le?

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got some questions.

1. what is API?
2. what is tentpole?
3. can the new software with all the new features be downloaded into iphone 3GS?

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wanna ask you all, I have read the articles.
My one is 3GS version 3.13, so if i upgrade to OS4, is it i cannot use multitasking?
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that is great on 4.0~~ multi-task rclxm9.gif

http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_os_40_is_no...s-news-1562.php



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it is so nice.. multi-task just wondering will lag or not..
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QUOTE(net_seeker @ Apr 9 2010, 02:09 PM)
wanna ask you all, I have read the articles.
My one is 3GS version 3.13, so if i upgrade to OS4, is it i cannot use multitasking?
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the latest iphone which is iphone 3gs can upgrade to os4.
the article nvr say?
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 12:09 PM)
got some questions.

1. what is API?
2. what is tentpole?
3. can the new software with all the new features be downloaded into iphone 3GS?
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API - application programming interface
tentpole is the thing steve jobs call his main 7 features of iphone OS 4.0
already mentioned the new features can work in 3gs..
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sorry. just want to reconfirm. cuz i read that multi tasking will not be available to iphone 2G and 3G. not sure whether 3GS is included as 3G or not. hehe.

but will the new features available to 3GS be available in full? or limited?
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 12:32 PM)
sorry. just want to reconfirm. cuz i read that multi tasking will not be available to iphone 2G and 3G. not sure whether 3GS is included as 3G or not. hehe.

but will the new features available to 3GS be available in full? or limited?
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in full for both iphone 3gs, and 3rd ge ipod touch (32 n 64gb only). where u read? tongue.gif
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huh? so 3GS 16gb will not have full features?

i saw at gsmarena they said 2g and 3g will not have full features such as multitasking as one of them. thats why wanna reconfirm whether 3gs got full features or not.
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 02:53 PM)
huh? so 3GS 16gb will not have full features?

i saw at gsmarena they said 2g and 3g will not have full features such as multitasking as one of them. thats why wanna reconfirm whether 3gs got full features or not.
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except some features that designed for next iphone model only
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can tell some examples of what features that 3gs will not have?
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 9 2010, 12:06 PM)
wow page 17 already!

anyway juz wanna confirm...1st gen ipod touch cannot upgrade to 4.0 right?

all in all a great update biggrin.gif so many improvements from 3.0 compared to 2.0 -> 3.0 last time. those with 3GS and 3rd gen ipod touch sure very happy now!
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yes, first gen cant 4.0. my 1st gen ipod can throw away d cry.gif


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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 01:10 PM)
can tell some examples of what features that 3gs will not have?
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most probably no. cause so far the iphone os 4.0 is design for 3gs. Dude, read more on engadget.

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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 01:10 PM)
can tell some examples of what features that 3gs will not have?
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all features will be on 3GS la bro...
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 01:10 PM)
can tell some examples of what features that 3gs will not have?
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3gs will have full features right. unless if u're askin bout 3g then 1 ting it wont have is multitasking. same goes for 2g tongue.gif


Added on April 9, 2010, 1:23 pm[quote=ginolo,Apr 9 2010, 01:14 PM]
yes, first gen cant 4.0. my 1st gen ipod can throw away d cry.gif

don nid throw le..giv me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(falcon21 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:19 PM)
3gs will have full features right. unless if u're askin bout 3g then 1 ting it wont have is multitasking. same goes for 2g  tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 01:14 PM)
yes, first gen cant 4.0. my 1st gen ipod can throw away d cry.gif

don nid throw le..giv me  tongue.gif
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seems like the announcement killed the previous version of ipod and iphone. I expect that will be a price cut slash on brand new or second hand 1st gen ipod/iphone, 2nd gen ipod/iphone. And it is not really a bad news, cause some of the consumer who dont really needs multi tasking can now afford iphone 2g at a cheaper rate. sweat.gif

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keynote video is out, dont know if its been posted yet but here it is :

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/
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QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 01:28 PM)

Added on April 9, 2010, 1:23 pm

seems like the announcement killed the previous version of ipod and iphone. I expect that will be a price cut slash on brand new or second hand 1st gen ipod/iphone, 2nd gen ipod/iphone. And it is not really a bad news, cause some of the consumer who dont really needs multi tasking can now afford iphone 2g at a cheaper rate. sweat.gif
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what do you think bout iphone 3g then bro? will the price drop too? dono how fast will maxis & digi response for their plan if price slash..
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QUOTE(falcon21 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:38 PM)
what do you think bout iphone 3g then bro? will the price drop too? dono how fast will maxis & digi response for their plan if price slash..
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i have no idea about that, it is a 50/50 case. the iphone 3g is still consider new in malaysia. so i think the iphone owner who just subscribed to our telcos are the people who suffered. maybe some of em' will be very interested to change to 3gs but if he letting the phone go now, he will suffer a bit loss on depreciation. But if for normal user, maybe like my dad, he won't care about the multi tasking or os 4.0 thinggy cause what he need is just a pure iphone, make calls, emails and sms.So they will have no reason to go for new 3gs.

So, at last, there are still good news and bad news too, i believe there will be some people want to let go their 3g and seek for 3gs. so you are planning to go for 3g, ready yourself with CASH to COD a lower price iphone 3g. for the bad news, iphone 3gs 2nd hand value will increase due to hot demand. Just my two cents. laugh.gif

QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 9 2010, 01:33 PM)
keynote video is out, dont know if its been posted yet but here it is :

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/
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yeap, i posted that before. guess its good to re-post it now.
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http://gizmodo.com/5512966/iphone-os-4-han...kyline=true&s=i

some hands on video by gizmodo guy... icon_rolleyes.gif lol, he can't get the pictures rotating, i also dun un, jus like tat? 'for the rotating feature'

i guess coz its not yet final.

Zoom features and tap focus only for camera, how bout video?
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QUOTE(falcon21 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:58 PM)
Zoom features and tap focus only for camera, how bout video?
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Tap to focus will also be available for video.

Read here for the full feature list.
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anyone using 4.0 now? im going to update soon

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sorry la people. just want to reconfirm mar.

So i guess now it is just down to the new iphone's hardwares to see whether is it worth changing or not since all features of 4.0 can be in 3GS.
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When iphone 4g came out i thk the oni feature 3gs lacking is video call.unless they gonna use the back cam for it doh.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 04:58 PM)
When iphone 4g came out i thk the oni feature 3gs lacking is video call.unless they gonna use the back cam for it  doh.gif
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btw this os4 still got few features not yet intro i guess...this just an intro..
so i think thr mayb have new features just specially for new iphone..
like video camera,compass,etc for iphone 3gs which iphone 3g dun have
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those are hardware bro. thats why i said, unless they have major changes in their hardware then it is not worth to change from 3gs to the new one.
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 03:21 PM)
those are hardware bro. thats why i said, unless they have major changes in their hardware then it is not worth to change from 3gs to the new one.
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if, just if, 3Gs cpu is unable to support heavy multitasking or whatever features in 4.0, and 4g is out with a better cpu and speed. i think u might reconsider that
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 9 2010, 03:13 PM)
btw this os4 still got few features not yet intro i guess...this just an intro..
so i think thr mayb have new features just specially for new iphone..
like video camera,compass,etc for iphone 3gs which iphone 3g dun have
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if 100 is few .... how much is alot?
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 03:21 PM)
those are hardware bro. thats why i said, unless they have major changes in their hardware then it is not worth to change from 3gs to the new one.
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iphone 3gs ram for me is really an upgrade than iphone 3g. usually my iphone will record around 155mb of ram if its in phone+mail push notification mode and this make me believe that iphone 3gs can handle multitasking better.
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QUOTE(monked @ Apr 9 2010, 03:32 PM)
if 100 is few .... how much is alot?
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He/she meant few are not announced, not only few are announced.
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 05:21 PM)
those are hardware bro. thats why i said, unless they have major changes in their hardware then it is not worth to change from 3gs to the new one.
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n i m saying about hardware..new hardware = new features smile.gif

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if 100 is few .... how much is alot?
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QUOTE(speedguy10 @ Apr 9 2010, 05:44 PM)
He/she meant few are not announced, not only few are announced.
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like what speedguy10 said...
after all this just a sneak peek..so maybe thr r more features coming...
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Hope's multitasking will not drain the battery further..........my iphone now need to charge at least 3 times/day.......... doh.gif
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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Apr 9 2010, 04:07 PM)
Hope's multitasking will not drain the battery further..........my iphone now need to charge at least 3 times/day.......... doh.gif
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well, apple alr said they will be the best for it, and claims their multitasking will save battery life and resources, compared to other competitors.

U can read more here on how its done...how it will save batt

http://gizmodo.com/5512656/how-multitaskin...ew-iphone-os-40
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charge three times a day??? wow... u might want to consider the mophie juice pack air...

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QUOTE(ryan_giggs @ Apr 9 2010, 06:07 PM)
Hope's multitasking will not drain the battery further..........my iphone now need to charge at least 3 times/day.......... doh.gif
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lol..even mine with jailbreak + live walpaper+backgrounder+ push + heavy usage also can last for 1 day with my iphone 3g
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try watching videos on youtube (with 3g) for few hours, see if your phone can last for a day with a single charge smile.gif
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@sanosizo, what package are you using? You are so rich.
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 9 2010, 04:15 PM)
lol..even mine with jailbreak + live walpaper+backgrounder+ push + heavy usage also can last for 1 day with my iphone 3g
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i think its all about what aps they use, and also how they maintain the health of battery. rclxub.gif and yea, brightness, bluetooth,wifi,3g also the main thing affecting the power.

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is the 4.0 available to download?
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Apr 9 2010, 07:09 PM)
try watching videos on youtube (with 3g) for few hours, see if your phone can last for a day with a single charge smile.gif
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my gf used to watch youtube for 2 hours and 100% drop to 50%..

QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 07:30 PM)
i think its all about what aps they use, and also how they maintain the health of battery. rclxub.gif and yea, brightness, bluetooth,wifi,3g also the main thing affecting the power.
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1 game of NBA2010 drain 4% of my battery. n i nvr off my wifi,3g except bluetooth with brightness at middle of medium and highest..
usually i charge my battery at night n recharge back at next evening/night... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(m|key @ Apr 9 2010, 05:45 PM)
is the 4.0 available to download?
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lol, nt so fast nia. now oni beta available for developers.

end users shud get it by summer, and ipad on fall. rclxms.gif
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i'm using digi unlimited internet rm58. (sorry a bit off-topic)

back to the iphone os 4.0...

a bit worried about the new FW on iphone 3g. even on current FW, phone really suffers from ram shortage when switching from one app to another. really need to free some memory space before running 3d games, unless it will stutter badly.
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 6 2010, 01:11 AM)
so far even the 1st gen iphone still can upgrade to OS 3.0... shud be able to upgrade to 4.0 i guess smile.gif

actually-useful standby screen please... n easy way to switch tabs in safari tongue.gif
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i don't think 1st gen iphone can have all the features.. 1st gen can upgrade to 4.0 but not all features.. as multitasking only applicable to apple iphone 3GS and third generation itouch.
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QUOTE(m|key @ Apr 9 2010, 05:45 PM)
is the 4.0 available to download?
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pay $99 and u can join the developer program to try out beta version
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QUOTE(mrportable @ Apr 9 2010, 08:18 PM)
pay $99 and u can join the developer program to try out beta version
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Just to note, in case there's those who itchy fingers and downloaded the beta from BT (there's bound to be those who'll put it there), installing it without a developer account will more or less brick your phone, 'cause you won't be able to authorize the firmware after installing. And there's no way to go back either. The only way to restore your phone then will be to wait till the 4.0 actual release.

The same thing has happened during the 3.0 beta days


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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 9 2010, 09:10 PM)
Just to note, in case there's those who itchy fingers and downloaded the beta from BT (there's bound to be those who'll put it there), installing it without a developer account will more or less brick your phone, 'cause you won't be able to authorize the firmware after installing. And there's no way to go back either. The only way to restore your phone then will be to wait till the 4.0 actual release.

The same thing has happened during the 3.0 beta days
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please..... dont upgrade for now....
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eh i don't understand why they keep mentioning that with the new multitask function one is able to use applications while at the same time listening music?
I thought we could do that even now? I'm surfing the net while listening music wor.. they also say one could make phone call while using other application... which i'm doing all the time.. when chatting with my friend using handsfree, i still able to use other application..
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The "listen to music" and "make phone calls" refer to the Pandora FM and Skype apps, not the built in phone or iPod app. With both cases of Pandora and Skype, once you skip to Home menu, you basically drop out of these apps, essentially closing them.

Watch the Keynote carefully.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Apr 9 2010, 09:41 PM)
The "listen to music" and "make phone calls" refer to the Pandora FM and Skype apps, not the built in phone or iPod app. With both cases of Pandora and Skype, once you skip to Home menu, you basically drop out of these apps, essentially closing them.

Watch the Keynote carefully.
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Haha just re-read the thing and now clear edi.. cool man!

Previously 3G and 3GS not much difference, but now difference is big liao after multitask come out smile.gif smile.gif
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Steve did mentioned that "will be shipped in Summer" or something like that.

I wonder if they are selling it. =P A new OS, where you have to buy from store or online to install. Just wild guess. Check the conference, he did mentioned about shipping.

Maybe I missunderstand the term used.
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I wonder if you upgrade to iphone 4.0 OS, will you able to JB it? Are you guys waiting for the JB to be released for 4.0 only upgrade?

I'm using 3.1.3.. cannot JB anyway so sure upgrade instantly when 4.0 released smile.gif
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Apr 9 2010, 10:10 PM)
Steve did mentioned that "will be shipped in Summer" or something like that.

I wonder if they are selling it. =P A new OS, where you have to buy from store or online to install.  Just wild guess.  Check the conference, he did mentioned about shipping.

Maybe I missunderstand the term used.
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I have the podcast with me, and he mention "releasing it this summer", not "shipping". "Shipping" may imply that the new OS comes with a new iPhone, but that is not what Steve says in the Keynote.
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QUOTE(iori57 @ Apr 9 2010, 10:17 PM)
I wonder if you upgrade to iphone 4.0 OS, will you able to JB it? Are you guys waiting for the JB to be released for 4.0 only upgrade?

I'm using 3.1.3.. cannot JB anyway so sure upgrade instantly when 4.0 released smile.gif
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owh ya i rmb steve did mention sumthg bout chging wallpaper or background images in the new OS 4.0.is tht sumthg like springboard which u chg the black background behind icons to some image?
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seems that there's gonna be a function where you can disable carrier data from within the OS itself smile.gif
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 9 2010, 11:50 PM)
seems that there's gonna be a function where you can disable carrier data from within the OS itself smile.gif
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Finally I can stop paying expensive 3G/Edge/GPRS bills..
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 11:19 PM)
owh ya i rmb steve did mention sumthg bout chging wallpaper or background images in the new OS 4.0.is tht sumthg like springboard which u chg the black background behind icons to some image?
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yes..you can change the black background to your personal background from the option in winterboard..
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 11:19 PM)
owh ya i rmb steve did mention sumthg bout chging wallpaper or background images in the new OS 4.0.is tht sumthg like springboard which u chg the black background behind icons to some image?
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yup, which is only on jailbroken iphones.

with 4.0, you can do it off the shelf

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multitasking support iPhone 3g.
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 10 2010, 12:50 AM)
seems that there's gonna be a function where you can disable carrier data from within the OS itself smile.gif
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This function will be the answer to my prayers. Hate the fact we cant control what we use and now with OS 4.0 finally we get to decide when we want and dont want to use to network data rclxm9.gif
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When can we update ar??
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at the moment if u pay $99 u may try beta version, but u must be unlocked and under mac os.
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I wonder if you upgrade to iphone 4.0 OS, will you able to JB it? Are you guys waiting for the JB to be released for 4.0 only upgrade?

I'm using 3.1.3.. cannot JB anyway so sure upgrade instantly when 4.0 released smile.gif
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4.0 still in beta devlop only.. will official launch on JUNE

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QUOTE(x132755 @ Apr 10 2010, 03:41 PM)
4.0 still in beta devlop only.. will official launch on JUNE
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Erm, i wonder if can update iphone 3GS os3 to Os4 without any major problem~
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Erm, i wonder if can update iphone 3GS os3 to Os4 without any major problem~
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In dilema now either to upgrade my 3g or getting iPad...
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Apr 10 2010, 10:08 PM)
In dilema now either to upgrade my 3g or getting iPad...
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dude, ipad is not a phone..
If you take ipad, how can you call people lol?
Not worth it la..
Keep ur iphone and use it..
Wait till 4G or 4GS or whatever..
Even my soon to come 3GS is good 4 me~
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 10 2010, 09:11 PM)
dude, ipad is not a phone..
If you take ipad, how can you call people lol?
Not worth it la..
Keep ur iphone and use it..
Wait till 4G or 4GS or whatever..
Even my soon to come 3GS is good 4 me~
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wat i mean is no need for me to sell my 3g n then gettin d ipad coz no multitaskin for 3g...
or sellin my 3g n then buy 3gs... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Apr 10 2010, 10:39 PM)
wat i mean is no need for me to sell my 3g n then gettin d ipad coz no multitaskin for 3g...
or sellin my 3g n then buy 3gs... biggrin.gif
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Got multitasking for 3G la~
>_>"

I dun get you..
Ipad is not a phone, iphone is a phone..
You sell your iphone, then you got no phone, but a ipad lol..
Swt~
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sellin my 3g = i buy 3gs (still got phone) but no iPad lor...
buyin iPad =not sellin my 3G (still got phone)....

i tot no multitaskin on 3G...
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If you are referring to OS4 then the multitasking is only for 3gs. Some of the updates in OS4 will not be applicable to 3G which includes multitasking
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 10 2010, 09:43 PM)
Got multitasking for 3G la~
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I dun get you..
Ipad is not a phone, iphone is a phone..
You sell your iphone, then you got no phone, but a ipad lol..
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iPhone OS 4 Compatibility

iPhone OS 4 will work with iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and the second- and third-generation iPod touch this summer, and with iPad in the fall. Not all features are compatible with all devices. For example, multitasking is available only with iPhone 3GS and the third-generation iPod touch (32GB and 64GB models from late 2009).

taken from apple website..
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Apr 10 2010, 11:50 PM)
sellin my 3g = i buy 3gs (still got phone) but no iPad lor...
buyin iPad =not sellin my 3G (still got phone)....

i tot no multitaskin on 3G...
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just jailbreak ur iphone then u can have multitasking
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I also lazy want to jailbreak mine if got~
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Some people like not to Jailbreak ma..
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me too lazy to JB...stil on 3.1.2 n can blackrain anytime...
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For me, i waiting for the OS4 only lol~
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Some people like not to Jailbreak ma..
I also lazy want to jailbreak mine if got~
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thats wat i think b4 i jb..but after my warranty over i just get over to jb to experience it cool.gif
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Apr 10 2010, 09:39 PM)
wat i mean is no need for me to sell my 3g n then gettin d ipad coz no multitaskin for 3g...
or sellin my 3g n then buy 3gs... biggrin.gif
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hold your breath, multitask on 3g is possible according to http://iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=8777

how can it be done, i dont know. probably gonna wait for the final version itself biggrin.gif
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of coz multitasking can be enabled for 3g,since its a feature built into OS 4.0 itself,jz tht it is disabled for 3g for some certain known reasons


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yes, apple want more people upgrade to 3gs tongue.gif
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Multi tasking is a plus already with my 3gs :-)
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of coz multitasking can be enabled for 3g,since its a feature built into OS 4.0 itself,jz tht it is disabled for 3g for some certain known reasons
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I think i read somewhere where the article says that, the option to enable multitasking in OS 4 is only a single line. By enabling multitasking in 3G which low ram compare to 3GS, is undesirable. Customer will complaint for sure if their 3G lagging.

However, come to conclude that, we have VRAM mod in order to increase our ram. biggrin.gif

Does multitasking is the same with backgrounder app when we jb? I bet so? sweat.gif

Found another article : http://www.macstories.net/iphone/you-can-e...-the-iphone-3g/

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Apr 11 2010, 07:12 AM)
Multi tasking is a plus already with my 3gs :-)
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QUOTE(CallMeMonkey @ Apr 11 2010, 05:06 AM)
hold your breath, multitask on 3g is possible according to http://iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=8777

how can it be done, i dont know. probably gonna wait for the final version itself biggrin.gif
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Cool~
I dun mind..
Since I'm getting a 3GS myself..
Multitasking is very welcomed~

QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 11 2010, 07:17 AM)
I think i read somewhere where the article says that, the option to enable multitasking in OS 4 is only a single line. By enabling multitasking in 3G which low ram compare to 3GS, is undesirable. Customer will complaint for sure if their 3G lagging.

However, come to conclude that, we have VRAM mod in order to increase our ram.  biggrin.gif

Does multitasking is the same with backgrounder app when we jb? I bet so?  sweat.gif

Found another article : http://www.macstories.net/iphone/you-can-e...-the-iphone-3g/
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Think so..
3G is not meant for multitasking at all when Apple made the phone..
Well, hopefully OS4 release fast, then I can enjoy my new apple faster XD
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even without multitasking, i3g is so laggy when running OS 3.1.
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Anyone has any major issues so far with the beta OS?


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QUOTE(badtz_mark @ Apr 11 2010, 09:41 PM)
Anyone has any major issues so far with the beta OS?
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most of us didnt upgrade yet because it is beta and its still got some bugs to be fixed.... if ure not iphone dev apps and have the dev account, better stay away from the 4.0 OS...
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errrr
ok...
i'm a Dev
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QUOTE(badtz_mark @ Apr 11 2010, 10:31 PM)
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Hi, badtz_mark, are you using a 3GS? If so, just out of curiosity, can you advice as to the performance of your iPhone with respect to multitasking and having multiple (i.e. MANY) apps open?

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then its ok lah....

so what do u think about the os?
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looks promising. when is this gonna be officially release?
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QUOTE(badtz_mark @ Apr 11 2010, 09:41 PM)
Anyone has any major issues so far with the beta OS?
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*ahem* remember the NDA?

Questions on 4.0b, go over to the Apple Developer Forums instead.
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heard tat the beta has alot of bugs.. hopefully they can fix it on time for the summer release..huhuhu
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thats why its called Beta tongue.gif

well they will surely fix them in time. just leave the one bug that is important to us; the JB bug lol
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QUOTE(Shoki @ Apr 9 2010, 02:13 AM)
My friends were expecting Apple to announce next gen iPhone.
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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ Apr 9 2010, 02:36 AM)
@shockk
i'm not disappointed at all seriously, when you've used the phone for so long, you know the limits

and multitasking for 3G is definitely pushing the envelope. JB for OS4.0 would be great edi brows.gif

and so much actions on a stupid button, the home button will be gone in no time with wear and tear. Mine after 1 1/2 years of abuse, its gonna give way soon enough, i have to press with force nowadays for the home button.
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u need to use money to buy for beta for 4.0 in usd 99 if not mistaken.. however if u r not dev just try to stay out lo..
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u need to use money to buy for beta for 4.0 in usd 99 if not mistaken.. however if u r not dev just try to stay out lo..
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okay bro....thank you....better i stay out from it coz i'm not dev...hehehehe....damn wth....we got to buy this beta version???...
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Apr 14 2010, 08:23 AM)
okay bro....thank you....better i stay out from it coz i'm not dev...hehehehe....damn wth....we got to buy this beta version???...
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it's not for sale, it's just that if you are iphone developer, u need to pay $99 usd yearly. normally for end user, it's better to wait for the final version, not the beta version. even for developers, it's better don't try beta on your daily usage iphone, unless you have dedicated phones for beta testing of the new OS version.
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QUOTE(david888 @ Apr 14 2010, 09:01 AM)
it's not for sale, it's just that if you are iphone developer, u need to pay $99 usd yearly. normally for end user, it's better to wait for the final version, not the beta version. even for developers, it's better don't try beta on your daily usage iphone, unless you have dedicated phones for beta testing of the new OS version.
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i see...now i understand...sori bro for my little knowledge about apple products....i got to make more revision about it....OS 4 really interesting...but i'm really sorry for 1st gen iphone coz they dont have any chance to upgrade their OS...little bit upset for them
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Apr 6 2010, 03:38 PM)
i think you dont have a clue how apple doesnt its operations, once a deal is made(DIGI & Maxis), then whatever the hell apple comes out will be avilable for them to sell, why would apple stall iphone models to us? it doesnt make sense, the 3GS made its way here by the end of July, weeks after it was announced, reason for the stall is because of those slowpokes in SIRIM.
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since when SIRIM got anything to do with the delay?
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QUOTE(prototype_x0 @ Apr 14 2010, 09:55 AM)
since when SIRIM got anything to do with the delay?
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SIRIM approval is a very headache process.. last time i order an some item from other country but kena kastam block at the end need to go here and there to get some document from SIRIM and other department.. that was my last time that purchase from other country
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 14 2010, 11:28 AM)
Well, anything that uses any form of radio signals needs to go through SIRIM for approval.
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It's clear he referring to the delayed problem. There's no proof whatsoever that SIRIM to be blamed for the delay.


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SIRIM approval is a very headache process.. last time i order an some item from other country but kena kastam block at the end need to go here and there to get some document from SIRIM and other department.. that was my last time that purchase from other country
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Lucky me then. Bought an electronic equipment last time from US without any hitch.

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QUOTE(mmmbop @ Apr 14 2010, 12:57 PM)
It's clear he referring to the delayed problem. There's no proof whatsoever that SIRIM to be blamed for the delay.
From what I remembered of the iPod Touch 2G, it was delayed at SIRIM for about a month or so.

It tends to vary each time a new product comes in to be approved.
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QUOTE(mnsnazri @ Apr 14 2010, 09:49 AM)
i see...now i understand...sori bro for my little knowledge about apple products....i got to make more revision about it....OS 4 really interesting...but i'm really sorry for 1st gen iphone coz they dont have any chance to upgrade their OS...little bit upset for them
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Why upset...? Should be happy that 1st gen iPhone had the chance to have two major upgrades since its launch, while some other comparably-priced phones don't even get any.

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It does not support the first gen most probably because of the new coming multitasking capability.

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Although multitasking is something to look up to but previously iPhone did great without multitask so I believe 1gen iPhone and 3g version still had the market besides iPhone is the best entertaiment smart phone currently
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Any news on wifi problem? Does os4 solve the wifi issue? Almost 1 year my iPhone without wifi sad.gif
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 15 2010, 09:50 AM)
Any news on wifi problem? Does os4 solve the wifi issue? Almost 1 year my iPhone without wifi sad.gif
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Does the wifi has any problems in current OS? cause currently i'm using the 3.1.3 without any wifi problems
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I thought recently the wifi inconsistent issue is only related to iPad.
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 15 2010, 09:50 AM)
Any news on wifi problem? Does os4 solve the wifi issue? Almost 1 year my iPhone without wifi sad.gif
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So sad man...fortunately I don't have any wifi issue with my iPhone...if you are using Maxis set why not just send it for warranty ?
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Because iPhone 3G hardware is unable to support the multi-tasking function?

What fair or not about it?

I don't they will allow you to force the iphone using the multitasking function with sluggish and lagging performance. Later how are they going to sell the phone equipped with OS 4.0?

Come buy iPhone 3G at store with sluggish performance and lags? If the hardware is not good enough to support it then it can't be done. Just get better phone.

Then it is fair =P
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QUOTE(Alviano @ Apr 15 2010, 12:46 PM)
Because iPhone 3G hardware is unable to support the multi-tasking function?

What fair or not about it?

I don't they will allow you to force the iphone using the multitasking function with sluggish and lagging performance.  Later how are they going to sell the phone equipped with OS 4.0?

Come buy iPhone 3G at store with sluggish performance and lags?  If the hardware is not good enough to support it then it can't be done.  Just get better phone.

Then it is fair =P
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QUOTE(linkokkeen @ Apr 16 2010, 10:46 AM)
will announce  iphone OS4 at 22 June 2010 smile.gif.
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tht end of JUNE cry.gif
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dang have to wait longer now
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Steve Jobs:"Apple Will No Longer Update the iPhone 2G". 2G cant support 4.0 sad.gif
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QUOTE(monked @ Apr 16 2010, 12:55 PM)
tht end of JUNE  cry.gif
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Wifi? Nobody complain on wifi problem. That means it's not OS version is the problem. Rather the phone itself
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There are tons of complain (10k post complaining i think) in Apple forum regarding wifi issues after upgrading to 3.0 firmware. Include non-jb and jb.

QUOTE(stormer @ Apr 15 2010, 06:38 PM)
So sad man...fortunately I don't have any wifi issue with my iPhone...if you are using Maxis set why not just send it for warranty ?
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Maxis set. The previous set encounter wifi problem after jb. Then i thought, wifi chip burnt. Then i get a replacement set. 2 days after that, I jb again, then the wifi fakap again. And that's me wonder either its OS problem or hardware problem.

As for hardware, using terminal (jb) wifi chip is available.

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I have no issue with Wifi
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Then i get a replacement set. 2 days after that, I jb again, then the wifi fakap again. And that's me wonder either its OS problem or hardware problem.


You jailbreak it and made the wifi fakap isn't it?

if you are staying on it's original firmware is there any wifi issue?
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 16 2010, 02:05 PM)
There are tons of complain (10k post complaining i think) in Apple forum regarding wifi issues after upgrading to 3.0 firmware. Include non-jb and jb.
Maxis set. The previous set encounter wifi problem after jb. Then i thought, wifi chip burnt. Then i get a replacement set. 2 days after that, I jb again, then the wifi fakap again. And that's me wonder either its OS problem or hardware problem.

As for hardware, using terminal (jb) wifi chip is available.
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If you dnt jb...any wifi problem?...
FYI...I have 1 unit iPhone 3Gs (3.1.2) which are jailbroken with no wifi issue...and the other one 3Gs (original fw) that i upgraded to firmware 3.1.3 also no wifi problem. Maybe i'm among the luckiest owner... biggrin.gif
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i jb or no jb also dun have any issue on wifi
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I have no issue with Wifi
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Good for you then. Heh.


QUOTE(aleluya @ Apr 16 2010, 03:22 PM)
You jailbreak it and made the wifi fakap isn't it?

if you are staying on it's original firmware is there any wifi issue?
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Yeah. After I receive my replacement set, JB, then the wifi gone. At 1st, my iphone barely to get the signal although i place besides the router. After a while, doesn't detect at all.

QUOTE(stormer @ Apr 16 2010, 05:50 PM)
If you dnt jb...any wifi problem?...
FYI...I have 1 unit iPhone 3Gs (3.1.2) which are jailbroken with no wifi issue...and the other one 3Gs (original fw) that i upgraded to firmware 3.1.3 also no wifi problem. Maybe i'm among the luckiest owner... biggrin.gif
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After I JB, and restore the firmware, still unable to detects. It's like lost the virginity (wifi) forever. sigh

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 16 2010, 06:11 PM)
i jb or no jb also dun have any issue on wifi
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i got no luck meh. aish. cry.gif

might be the chip got prob.
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i also don't have the issue on wifi. but i mostly use 3g, since it is unlimited. lol
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last night os 4.0 beta1 is coming out d, can jailbreak as well.. but only in Mac..
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last night os 4.0 beta1 is coming out d, can jailbreak as well.. but only in Mac..
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Want Jb meh?
OS4 provide most reasons 4 Jb already~
If reli OS4 release and works as the way it is announced, I dun see why not I need 2 Jb liao~
Kinda lazy anyway~
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QUOTE(UnchainedLullaby @ Apr 16 2010, 05:46 AM)
You're right!
The moment you start using 3gs you wont feel like touching 3G anymore ...
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This is interesting, I'm using 3GS, never had a chance to use a 3G set.
But is there really that much different between 3G & 3GS? shocking.gif




QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 16 2010, 02:05 PM)
There are tons of complain (10k post complaining i think) in Apple forum regarding wifi issues after upgrading to 3.0 firmware. Include non-jb and jb.
Maxis set. The previous set encounter wifi problem after jb. Then i thought, wifi chip burnt. Then i get a replacement set. 2 days after that, I jb again, then the wifi fakap again. And that's me wonder either its OS problem or hardware problem.

As for hardware, using terminal (jb) wifi chip is available.
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Mine is Maxis set, accidentally updated to 3.1.3 so no JB for me, but no wifi issue.
But I am interesting to know what "issue" you had with the wifi? smile.gif
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 16 2010, 08:25 PM)
Good for you then. Heh.
Yeah. After I receive my replacement set, JB, then the wifi gone. At 1st, my iphone barely to get the signal although i place besides the router. After a while, doesn't detect at all.
After I JB, and restore the firmware, still unable to detects. It's like lost the virginity (wifi) forever. sigh
i got no luck meh. aish.  cry.gif

might be the chip got prob.
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i think there is a solution for ur prob. u could try google for it.
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iphone 3g can still use multitasking feature - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Ozp2iNbTk
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 16 2010, 02:05 PM)
There are tons of complain (10k post complaining i think) in Apple forum regarding wifi issues after upgrading to 3.0 firmware. Include non-jb and jb.
Maxis set. The previous set encounter wifi problem after jb. Then i thought, wifi chip burnt. Then i get a replacement set. 2 days after that, I jb again, then the wifi fakap again. And that's me wonder either its OS problem or hardware problem.

As for hardware, using terminal (jb) wifi chip is available.
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Considering both JB and non-JB users in this forum have no wifi problem whatsoever, probably there might be an application that you installed after JB that cause all this. Highly unlikely the hardware is the problem. Why going through all the trouble when you can be safe and sound without JB?
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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Apr 17 2010, 11:02 AM)
This is interesting, I'm using 3GS, never had a chance to use a 3G set.
But is there really that much different between 3G & 3GS?  shocking.gif
Mine is Maxis set, accidentally updated to 3.1.3 so no JB for me, but no wifi issue.
But I am interesting to know what "issue" you had with the wifi?  smile.gif
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Yes, i want to know this too. Bcos if the diff is not that much, i'm thinking to grab 1 3G 8GB. Is it really lag compare to 3GS? or just lag when u try to do multitasking?

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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Apr 19 2010, 12:23 PM)
Yes, i want to know this too. Bcos if the diff is not that much, i'm thinking to grab 1 3G 8GB. Is it really lag compare to 3GS? or just lag when u try to do multitasking?

Thanks
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Let me try and put this in perspective. Lagging in a device is relative. It all depends on what you load in your gadget and then what you run at any one time.

i3GS is obviously faster than i3G which means it is better, hence the higher price. Your decision as I have said so many times in our forum here depends on what you need the iPhone for and whether your pocket is deep enough. So, ultimately, it is your call as to which you choose to buy.
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 17 2010, 10:45 AM)
Want Jb meh?
OS4 provide most reasons 4 Jb already~
If reli OS4 release and works as the way it is announced, I dun see why not I need 2 Jb liao~
Kinda lazy anyway~
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there is so many possibility with Jailbreak iphone. Not just multitasking, categories and some new features in OS4. Ever use SSH and SBSettings? For me that is the real reason for JB.
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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Apr 19 2010, 12:23 PM)
Yes, i want to know this too. Bcos if the diff is not that much, i'm thinking to grab 1 3G 8GB. Is it really lag compare to 3GS? or just lag when u try to do multitasking?

Thanks
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i believe lag is not much lah. difference is how long an application takes to load. abt multitasking im not sure
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its all about u adjusting to the speed of the phone. i have tested 3gs and yeah its a lot faster than i3g, (opening apps, browsing, downloading apps, more) but at the moment im still satisfied with my i3g. but if u have the $$ and the need to be using the fastest machine out there, then u should go ahead.

later ppl will complain about 3gs being slower to 4g (hd) and the cycle continues.
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 19 2010, 03:09 PM)
i believe lag is not much lah. difference is how long an application takes to load. abt multitasking im not sure
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i can say lag is very much..iphone 3gs can open n close app without lag but my iphone 3g need wait few seconds to close safari...
i like the speed of iphone 3gs
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Apr 15 2010, 09:50 AM)
Any news on wifi problem? Does os4 solve the wifi issue? Almost 1 year my iPhone without wifi sad.gif
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try this n see.. not sure if it will work for you..

1. turn ur phone on..
2. switch it to airplane mode.
3. turn on ur wifi.
4. restart ur phone
5. turn off airplane mode
6. restart ur wifi.

mine also failed to detect wifi after i jb-ed.. after the above steps no more problem till today(touches wooden table)..

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 19 2010, 01:55 PM)
i can say lag is very much..iphone 3gs can open n close app without lag but my iphone 3g need wait few seconds to close safari...
i like the speed of iphone 3gs
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really? ouch its look like a setback to me.

how about hang? will occur many times?
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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Apr 19 2010, 04:30 PM)
really? ouch its look like a setback to me.

how about hang? will occur many times?
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hang?don ask me coz mine is jb version tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Apr 17 2010, 11:34 PM)
iphone 3g can still use multitasking feature - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Ozp2iNbTk
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i'm sure multitasking can run on 3G but when u installed tons of apps, then we will be facing the lag issue sleep.gif
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Apr 28 2010, 10:30 AM)
How is OS 4 when compared to OS 3?
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not release yet bro sweat.gif but many can't wait for da multitasking features tongue.gif
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i'm sure multitasking can run on 3G but when u installed tons of apps, then we will be facing the lag issue sleep.gif
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iPhone OS 4 will work with iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and the second- and third-generation iPod touch this summer, and with iPad in the fall. Not all features are compatible with all devices. For example, multitasking is available only with iPhone 3GS and the third-generation iPod touch (32GB and 64GB models from late 2009).
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QUOTE(AiRBooM @ Apr 28 2010, 01:23 PM)
I don't understand .... why Apple has to lie ppl that telling some features like multitasking only available on 3GS model ?
http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/
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is not they lie ><
is they dont want 3G to have multi task , their proccessor not good enough to deliver multitask on OS 4 =)
how ever u can enable it and feel the lagginess
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Luckily I just bought my 3GS just in time for OS4.0. I guess its a sign I might have to say goodbye to my 2G sad.gif
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QUOTE(monked @ Apr 28 2010, 01:26 PM)
is not they lie ><
is they dont want 3G to have multi task , their proccessor not good enough to deliver multitask on OS 4 =)
how ever u can enable it and feel the lagginess
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it has yet to be confirmed yet.

I guess it best to wait until the official to be released and wait for some dev/users to test it on 3g only shall we have a final say regarding this matter biggrin.gif


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i already find my 3G is lagging on certain graphic-intensive games (Riddim Ribbon mainly) and so I'm not suprised that multi-tasking (which would need more RAM) is only for 3G[S] and iPod touch G3.
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if they say 3g not supported then owner of 3g will complaint.
if they say 3g supported but lag a lot owner of 3g will also complaint.

so better not supported at all. just get a 3gs. its a hardware limitation on 3g, owner of 3g have to accept that. i prefer something that is running smoothly, lagginess could result in the phone flying into the wall tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Apr 28 2010, 04:51 PM)
if they say 3g not supported then owner of 3g will complaint.
if they say 3g supported but lag a lot owner of 3g will also complaint.

so better not supported at all. just get a 3gs. its a hardware limitation on 3g, owner of 3g have to accept that. i prefer something that is running smoothly, lagginess could result in the phone flying into the wall tongue.gif
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sometimes not all people have much money too spend to buy iphone 3gs....so they hope iphone OS 4 will run smoothly in iphone 3g

maybe they can sell their iphone 3g...and top up some money to buy 3gs....
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seriously though there isnt any conspiracy theory to leave out iPhone 3G owners, you guys got OS2 and 3, and that went seamless enough though at times OS3 on an iphone 3G is lil bit laggy. In other related news try to install a latest symbian on a 2 year model N series, i might not be surprised a few month old model can't support it.
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its quite simple actually.
when you purchased (as I did) an iPhone 3G, it came with 2.x software. Apple provided an upgrade to 3.0 for no extra charges.
for the 4.0, new hardware is required to fully utilise all the new functions. its like a Mac actually.
for the 3G[S] owners, they started out with 3.0 software, and the 4.0 is their free upgrade. additional features, *all* working.

next year, will be 5.0 and the 3G will be completely *un*supported, 3G[S] will be partially-supported, and there'll be a new model which will have full support < the last part is speculation smile.gif
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I hope they'll include a graphic equalizer for ipod app....
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Apr 28 2010, 06:55 PM)
its quite simple actually.
when you purchased (as I did) an iPhone 3G, it came with 2.x software. Apple provided an upgrade to 3.0 for no extra charges.
for the 4.0, new hardware is required to fully utilise all the new functions. its like a Mac actually.
for the 3G[S] owners, they started out with 3.0 software, and the 4.0 is their free upgrade. additional features, *all* working.

next year, will be 5.0 and the 3G will be completely *un*supported, 3G[S] will be partially-supported, and there'll be a new model which will have full support < the last part is speculation smile.gif
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good point smile.gif 1st gen iphone got 2.0 n 3.0 for free, all supported

some games on app store now doesnt run well on 1st gen stuff too. i always get not enough memory warning when playing rock band sad.gif time for an upgrade. what to do la, this is technology, 3 years is considered ancient tongue.gif


Added on April 28, 2010, 9:37 pmWWDC on june 7th

http://gizmodo.com/5526224/apple-worldwide...tarts-on-june-7

will it be THE day? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 28 2010, 09:27 PM)
good point smile.gif 1st gen iphone got 2.0 n 3.0 for free, all supported

some games on app store now doesnt run well on 1st gen stuff too. i always get not enough memory warning when playing rock band sad.gif time for an upgrade. what to do la, this is technology, 3 years is considered ancient tongue.gif


Added on April 28, 2010, 9:37 pmWWDC on june 7th

http://gizmodo.com/5526224/apple-worldwide...tarts-on-june-7

will it be THE day? biggrin.gif
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okay this is interesting

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the blue icon with the camera? iChat?? finally!


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some articles suggests that iChat is wifi-only sad.gif
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 29 2010, 12:06 AM)
some articles suggests that iChat is wifi-only sad.gif
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aren't there are software from cydia which trick iphone when we use 3G as wifi? biggrin.gif then ma can use when 3G loh ?

btw i m using multitask also from cydia ... for 3Gs... if i use more then 2 or 3 games... it start to lag ed.... eventhough 3Gs got around 150 MB of ram... but if 3G ... ? sure lag la... and not much reason to use multitask on 3G ed.. since u also cant on few apps at once..
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QUOTE(Kain_Sicilian @ Apr 28 2010, 08:26 PM)
I hope they'll include a graphic equalizer for ipod app....
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I don't think they would implement that. This is because I have been with most iPods, and the visualizers aren't there. If its not there in the beginning, I wouldn't think it would be important enough for them, just like the floppy disks not in any iMacs last time.
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New version of iTunes is available and my iTunes prompt me to download it yesterday... seems OS4 may be release ahead of time cause everytime there is a iTunes update few more days or week there is new iphone OS
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The iTunes update 9.1.1 is just for bug fixes and security issues. They did not include any new OS supports or anything like that. At least, its not on the update features. Your assumption is based on what? I don't really recall every iTunes update and simultaneously new iPhone OS comes :S
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just wan to ask if my phone is update normally from itunes to 3.1.3 firmware
isit posible for me to install 3.1.3 custom firmware ? isit got any diff btw the original firmware?

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