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post Apr 6 2010, 12:16 AM, updated 16y ago

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iPhone 4

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Apple has just announced the new iPhone on WWDC 2010 (around 1 AM June 8th Malaysian time). And boy does it look gorgeous!

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Available in 16GB or 32GB, black or white.

The new features:

FaceTime - basically videocall, but between iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 only for now. Also for now, only by using WiFi. The reason is because AT&T will struggle to support the bandwidth, but we'll see if Apple and Maxis can arrange it for us here smile.gif Also, this is an open standard, so we can expect phones from other manufacturer to support FaceTime as well. Both front and back cameras can be used.

5 MP camera, LED flash, Backside Illumination Sensor, Front Camera
- you should probably know more megapixels equals more noise, but the camera sensor in iPhone 4 has also been increased as well, and paired with backside illumination technology. BIS and LED flash should result in better low-light photos. Front camera can also be used for easier camwhoring!

HD Video & iMovie for iPhone - self-explanatory tongue.gif

Retina Display with IPS technology - our beloved 3.5" Multitouch display now has a resolution of 960x640 (4x iPhone 3GS), so that's a stunning 326 pixels per inch! 800:1 contrast ratio and oleophobic coating for both the aluminosilicate glass screen and back panel. Also, IPS technology gives better colours and viewing angles…should beat AMOLED anytime.

Gyroscope - iPhone reinvented mobile gaming with the accelerometer. This is the next invention.

Bigger battery - Hey, it's Apple.

And of course, iPhone 4 is powered by the Apple A4 processor.

Read more about the new features here and drool at the tech specs here

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iOS 4 (previously known as iPhone OS 4)

user posted image iPhone 4 Downloads *Only iTunes 9.2 or later supports iPhone 4
*do not unzip the firmware. Remove the .zip extension. Your firmware should ends with .ipsw extension

IOS 4 Download

iPhone 3G IOS 4 Firmware - Download

iPhone 3GS IOS 4 Firmware - Download

iPhone 4 IOS 4 Firmware - Download

*Hold shift and click restore for Windows users and select the firmware. Hold Alt/Option and click Restore for Mac users and select the firmware. (Do a full backup before you proceed).

New features:

Multitasking - It's finally here! Double-tapping the home button will show all the apps you are currently running. This multitasking system is designed for minimum impact on battery life.

Folders - Effortlessly organize your apps in folders.

iBooks - Just like from the iPad, you get to purchase eBooks from the iBookstore

Unified Mail Inbox - manage multiple email accounts, and you can also view messages in threads

Frequently Asked Questions

READ THIS BEFORE YOU POST A QUESTION! You can always visit the official iPhone 4 page on Apple.com, and here's a useful article from Engadget. Feel free to ask or comment anything in this thread, but please no bashing and one-liners. Keep this thread clean so anyone can find information they need as easy as possible.

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Thank you smile.gif

iPhone 4 FAQ

1. When will it be released in Malaysia?
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2. So long have to wait! Can I buy from other countries and bring it to Malaysia?
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3. So how much will it be priced in Malaysia?
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4. But wait, iPhone 4 uses microSIM?! How long do we have to wait to have this in Malaysia? Any news from Maxis, Digi or Celcom?
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5. Malaysia don't have 4G network laa!
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6. Adobe Flash support?
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7. How to play Farmville?!?!?!
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8. Will the price drop anytime soon?
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9. I saw someone in Garage Sales (or other places) selling the iPhone 4 for an absurdly high price! Why is that person ripping me off?!
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10. The iPhone 4 is a disappointment. When will a new iPhone be released?
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11. I heard there's a rumour about a new version of the iPod touch. Is this true?
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12. I just bought an iPhone 3GS. Is it worth it to upgrade? Can trade-in?
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13. Can I edit my own ringtones in iPhone? Even my old phone can do that!
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14. Why no AMOLED screen?
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15. What is Retina Display?
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iOS 4.0 FAQ

1. Which iPhones n iPod touches are eligible for this update?
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2. Is it free? How do I get it?
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3. Should I try the Golden Master BETA version?
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4. Can I Jailbreak it?
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More FAQs coming soon. Any corrections please PM me, thank you smile.gif

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post Apr 6 2010, 01:11 AM

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so far even the 1st gen iphone still can upgrade to OS 3.0... shud be able to upgrade to 4.0 i guess smile.gif

actually-useful standby screen please... n easy way to switch tabs in safari tongue.gif
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post Apr 6 2010, 01:23 AM

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lol i didnt know got such case. hopefully they learnt their lesson!
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post Apr 6 2010, 02:30 AM

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3,3 and 4,1 shud be the model 'name'.

iphone 2,1 is the 3GS... 1,1 is the 2G, 1,2 is the 3G

but those 3,1 3,2 and 3,3 are new smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:24 PM

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if suddenly iphone 2G and 3G cannot update, sure lots of ppl will be furious
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post Apr 7 2010, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(shdwkillr @ Apr 7 2010, 03:04 PM)
erm... hihi... we're talking about iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone 4.0?
it seems like in your prediction only "multitasking" and "better passcode" fit in the iPhone OS 4.0
while "higher resolution", "video conversation" and "HD capability" fit in the prediction of iPhone 4.0, which I doubt they will say anything during tomorrow's event otherwise we will then know that the next gen iPhone has "better display" and "front camera", which, Apple will not do so until the iPhone event..
(correct me if I'm wrong then)

If I'm not mistaken this thread is about the new OS and not the new hardware.. hmm.. shouldn't we strictly stick to the discussion of the original thread title?
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since iphone OS 4.0 will be in iphone 4th gen, nothing wrong to speculate hehe. e.g. if iphone OS 4.0 supports videocall, then we can bet iphone 4th gen will have front facing camera

hm i forgot where i read but, A4 chip, unlike the snapdragon, cannot videocall? but i dun mind lah, i nvr videocall...still feels awkward to me tongue.gif

we shud know something about the resolution too. but then i hope it stays the same smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 01:06 AM

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OS 4.0 sure will give some clues on what iphone 4th gen is smile.gif

so far all iphones n ipod touch can upgrade to the latest firmware. since the next iphone is likely to be based on the same cortex A8, so it should be a smooth upgrade
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post Apr 9 2010, 12:06 PM

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wow page 17 already!

anyway juz wanna confirm...1st gen ipod touch cannot upgrade to 4.0 right?

all in all a great update biggrin.gif so many improvements from 3.0 compared to 2.0 -> 3.0 last time. those with 3GS and 3rd gen ipod touch sure very happy now!
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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 12:32 PM)
sorry. just want to reconfirm. cuz i read that multi tasking will not be available to iphone 2G and 3G. not sure whether 3GS is included as 3G or not. hehe.

but will the new features available to 3GS be available in full? or limited?
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in full for both iphone 3gs, and 3rd ge ipod touch (32 n 64gb only). where u read? tongue.gif
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 01:10 PM)
can tell some examples of what features that 3gs will not have?
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all features will be on 3GS la bro...
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post Apr 19 2010, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(carlitofreak @ Apr 19 2010, 12:23 PM)
Yes, i want to know this too. Bcos if the diff is not that much, i'm thinking to grab 1 3G 8GB. Is it really lag compare to 3GS? or just lag when u try to do multitasking?

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i believe lag is not much lah. difference is how long an application takes to load. abt multitasking im not sure
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QUOTE(xaw5126 @ Apr 28 2010, 06:55 PM)
its quite simple actually.
when you purchased (as I did) an iPhone 3G, it came with 2.x software. Apple provided an upgrade to 3.0 for no extra charges.
for the 4.0, new hardware is required to fully utilise all the new functions. its like a Mac actually.
for the 3G[S] owners, they started out with 3.0 software, and the 4.0 is their free upgrade. additional features, *all* working.

next year, will be 5.0 and the 3G will be completely *un*supported, 3G[S] will be partially-supported, and there'll be a new model which will have full support < the last part is speculation smile.gif
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good point smile.gif 1st gen iphone got 2.0 n 3.0 for free, all supported

some games on app store now doesnt run well on 1st gen stuff too. i always get not enough memory warning when playing rock band sad.gif time for an upgrade. what to do la, this is technology, 3 years is considered ancient tongue.gif


Added on April 28, 2010, 9:37 pmWWDC on june 7th

http://gizmodo.com/5526224/apple-worldwide...tarts-on-june-7

will it be THE day? biggrin.gif

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post Apr 29 2010, 12:06 AM

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some articles suggests that iChat is wifi-only sad.gif
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post May 2 2010, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ May 1 2010, 12:30 PM)
is there any charges if i upgrade to os 4 or is it free?

btw safari 4 has new updates....good to install it?
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so far iPhone upgrades are free... for ipod touch is $9.95

kinda weird of u suddenly asking about safari 4 here... but yes tongue.gif
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post Jun 4 2010, 10:40 PM

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probably too much under android poison dy tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 03:13 AM

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really great updates we have here biggrin.gif

i find it annoying how they act like it's the first video calling phone on the planet :S

anyone got the release month for malaysia?
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post Jun 8 2010, 03:20 AM

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hopefully htc doesnt come up with something better by 2011 tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 03:25 AM

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true hehe. i plan to get a new phone arnd jan 2011 (hopefully my current phone doesnt break) so ample time to collect money n decide tongue.gif

htc evo (assuming there will be a gsm version) is still in my list. wait until i can have both devices in my hands, then can decide tongue.gif

android has a lot of useful features but it's kinda messy, no streamlined look
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QUOTE(Xerone @ Jun 8 2010, 03:36 AM)
No Amoled display?
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screw amoled... IPS ftw! ;p
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post Jun 8 2010, 12:54 PM

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i think i'd prefer a black front n white back haha. both sides is oleophobic right?

also, i guess we can expect a 3GS 8GB RRP 1990. anyone still interested?

about facetime, what really bothers me is that y only iphone4 to iphone4. special encoding? apple claims it's an open industry standard...does this mean other phones later will have FaceTime too? n how do we videocall ppl thru wifi...dial the num like normal? if facetime is so special, i find it weird how they didnt compare it to normal SE/nokia/samsung etc videocall over 3g. hopefully the quality is better. over wifi, shud be ichat-level quality i guess. but good thing i dun really videocall anyway heheh

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