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post Mar 2 2009, 03:47 PM, updated 17y ago

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WELCOME TO THE NVIDIA GRAPHIC CARD FANS CLUB !!Post Your Comments & Sharing are welcome
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Nvidia design for gaming & for graphic design too!!
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Hehe... Support!! Going to grab another gtx280 for SLI from bata bulk.. smile.gif check it out at bulk subforum!
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Bata Bulk? how much for bulk order?
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Rm1100 for xfx gtx280.. smile.gif
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hi guys..
using GeForce 9500 GT with 512mb dedicated RAM...
everything is fine but Adobe Photoshop CS4 Extended can't seem to run on my pc...
it crashes everytime i edit pictures...
had to disable GPU to run photoshop...
they asked me to update my drivers but it's already the latest by nvidia..

anybody experienced anything like this before?
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 2 2009, 04:53 PM)
Rm1100 for xfx gtx280.. smile.gif
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I Want To Ask A Question.

285GTx Normal Version, Can I Flash The Bios To EVGA 285GTx SSC ?
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 05:29 PM)
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285GTx Normal Version, Can I Flash The Bios To EVGA 285GTx SSC ?
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If u think the chips can support it, then no problem....
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Apparently, what he says is kind of true except that GTX280 stock vs GTX285 stock, GTX285 wins bcos of higher clocks.... If GTX280 is OCed to the same frequencies as GTX285, GTX280 onli loses out 1 FPS.... GTX280 has better OC capabilities bcos of 65nm fabrication....


lol, you are merely repeating what RegentCid has stated. If you stated that 65nm oc just as good as 55nm, then I can agree on that. but theoratically 55nm oc better than 65nm. Due to smaller die, 55nm draws less power and produce less heat, these in returns leaves a head room for more oc'ing. No doubt that it was mentioned by Fudzilla that early reference desgin of GTX 285 and GTX 260 (55nm) can oc only the same as their 65nm counterpart, but there are also alot of reported higher oc for 55nm in other forums.
So again, a link to show and prove that 65nm is more superior than 55nm would be great. otherwise they are pretty much the same, not 65nm better 55nm.

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 05:41 PM)
lol, you are merely repeating what RegentCid has stated. If you stated that 65nm oc just as good as 55nm, then I can agree on that. but theoratically 55nm should oc better than 65nm. Due to smaller die, 55nm draws less power and produce less heat, these in returns leaves a head room for more oc'ing. No doubt that it was mentioned by Fudzilla that early reference desgin of GTX 285 and GTX 260 (55nm) can oc only the same as their 65nm counterpart, but there are also alot of reported higher oc in other forums.
So again, a link to show and prove that 65nm is more superior than 55nm would be great. thx
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well,tested both 55nm and 65nm.
55nm GTX260 Sonic Dual Fan oc to 710mhz BSOD
65nm GTX260 Stock fan oc to 740mhz and still going smile.gif
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 05:41 PM)
lol, you are merely repeating what RegentCid has stated.

I was intepreting RegentCid's statement since his statement is not that clear and yes, theoratically speaking 55nm is better but actual tests conducted by our fellow forumers shows that 65nm is more superior than 55nm in terms of OCing abilities bcos of the voltage control....

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 2 2009, 05:45 PM)
well,tested both 55nm and 65nm.
55nm GTX260 Sonic Dual Fan oc to 710mhz BSOD
65nm GTX260 Stock fan oc to 740mhz and still going smile.gif
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let me guess, u tested the new GTX 260 sonic dual right? we are comparing an orange to an apple. the palit's gtx 260 uses a different voltage controller. and most of all the whole pcb design is different, that doesn't necessary means that it is better than the reference design. but then again I could be wrong la.

u guys can read em here at techpowerup which shows that it uses a non-reference pcb design too

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i heard tht the 55nm version gtx260 (i guess it applies to gtx280/285 as well) is using cheaper pwm's,thus u cant use any voltage control software with it.this gives the 65nm version an advantage when oc-ing compared to 55nm
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One word...kaki OC will choose 65nm GPU in all meaning. that all ...ends
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btw speaking bout voltage control software,any nice 1 to recommend out thr?i know there's 1 by evga but does it work for outside cards (diff manufacturer)?
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 2 2009, 06:05 PM)
i heard tht the 55nm version gtx260 (i guess it applies to gtx280/285 as well) is using cheaper pwm's,thus u cant use any voltage control software with it.this  gives the 65nm version an advantage when oc-ing compared to 55nm
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can la bro. the reference GTX 260 uses Volterra voltage regulator. which can be controlled through software smile.gif
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wah...all use so keng 1..i use gtx 260 oc edition only -.-
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Mar 2 2009, 06:07 PM)
One word...kaki OC will choose 65nm GPU in all meaning. that all ...ends
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ok... sure sif

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gtx260 oc enough edi la for 2day's standard,think bout those who still stuck at 8 or 9 series

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 2 2009, 06:08 PM)
btw speaking bout voltage control software,any nice 1 to recommend out thr?i know there's 1 by evga but does it work for outside cards (diff manufacturer)?
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any1?

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but i dunno how to OC it... lOL..sked burnt
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can anybody help me with my problem please?
i wan to run photoshop CS4 extended but my GPU dunno why cannot use it...
when i load it says the monitor profile "LG W1942T" appears to be defective. Please rerun monitor calibration software.

then inside it says no GPU detected... ask me to update my driver...
using a GeForce 9500GT... latest drivers from nvidia already...

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 2 2009, 06:08 PM)
btw speaking bout voltage control software,any nice 1 to recommend out thr?i know there's 1 by evga but does it work for outside cards (diff manufacturer)?
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there's a cracked version. I tried it and it works. here is the LINK (but this is v1.0, there is still no crack for the latest verison)
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QUOTE(Laric @ Mar 2 2009, 06:17 PM)
can anybody help me with my problem please?
i wan to run photoshop CS4 extended but my GPU dunno why cannot use it...
when i load it says the monitor profile "LG W1942T" appears to be defective. Please rerun monitor calibration software.

then inside it says no GPU detected... ask me to update my driver...
using a GeForce 9500GT... latest drivers from nvidia already...
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wrong section biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Laric @ Mar 2 2009, 06:17 PM)
can anybody help me with my problem please?
i wan to run photoshop CS4 extended but my GPU dunno why cannot use it...
when i load it says the monitor profile "LG W1942T" appears to be defective. Please rerun monitor calibration software.

then inside it says no GPU detected... ask me to update my driver...
using a GeForce 9500GT... latest drivers from nvidia already...
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U better use some registry cleaner program first before installing the new nvidia driver. try google "Driver Sweeper". and reintall your nvidia driver. see if it can detect your graphic card
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Mar 2 2009, 06:20 PM)
wrong section biggrin.gif
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oops sorry... just didn't know where to ask these questions...
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 06:19 PM)
there's a cracked version. I tried it and it works. here is the LINK (but this is v1.0, there is still no crack for the latest verison)
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download and installed it.but it says "this device is not recognized" sweat.gif
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did u patch the exe file first?

u must click the "VoltageTune.Patch.v1.0" file first. when the menu pops up, it will want u to search for the EVGAVoltageTuner.exe in the EVGA program files folder.

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theres no such file in the zip.....can u send me or provide another link?
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oh really? maybe they have removed it... gimme your email, i will email it to u.
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wah u guys all GTX GTX me still using 8th series..zzz
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ahaha...i still with my 8800GT OC...
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wah u guys all GTX GTX me still using 8th series..zzz
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when u guys were using the 8th series, I was drooling on u guys with my 3870 sad.gif
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was reading PC Gamer and notice something... correct my eyes.. did I just see a 1.79GB nVidia GTX295 graphics card?!?! shocking.gif
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Yes...? And what's wrong with 1.7GB gtx295? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azxel @ Mar 2 2009, 07:08 PM)
was reading PC Gamer and notice something... correct my eyes.. did I just see a 1.79GB nVidia GTX295 graphics card?!?! shocking.gif
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no mod, u saw it clearly. smile.gif

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 06:41 PM)
lol, you are merely repeating what RegentCid has stated. If you stated that 65nm oc just as good as 55nm, then I can agree on that. but theoratically 55nm oc better than 65nm. Due to smaller die, 55nm draws less power and produce less heat, these in returns leaves a head room for more oc'ing. No doubt that it was mentioned by Fudzilla that early reference desgin of GTX 285 and GTX 260 (55nm) can oc only the same as their 65nm counterpart, but there are also alot of reported higher oc for 55nm in other forums.
So again, a link to show and prove that [b]65nm is more superior than 55nm would be great.[/B] otherwise they are pretty much the same, not 65nm better 55nm.
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sish, links again.
prove yourself like acecombat,
no money ? sell of ya GTS295 then rclxm9.gif brows.gif
again, who start the OC ability discussion. regent he just mentioned flashing bios wink.gif
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Mar 2 2009, 07:49 PM)
sish, links again.
prove yourself like acecombat,
no money ? sell of ya GTS295 then  rclxm9.gif   brows.gif
again, who start the OC ability discussion. regent he just mentioned flashing bios wink.gif
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Well I just think that before anyone starts giving a controversial or contradicting statement, he/she should have a valid explanations or valid proof before causing flames in the thread. just because some guy said so, and just simply taking the words for it does not prove the statement is valid. All I want is a good solid proof with good reference to backup, this does not mean I dismissed everybody's point of view. Well, if ppl here prefer to believe that 65nm is superior than 55nm in OC'ing, rather than giving me a more valid proof (eg. comparing an apple to an apple for a start) then I can end my search for answer right here. enough said. doh.gif cool.gif

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 09:17 PM)
Well I just think that before anyone starts giving a controversial or contradicting statement, he/she should have a valid explanations or valid proof before causing flames in the thread. just because some guy said so, and just simply taking the words for it does not prove the statement is valid. All I want is a good solid proof with good reference to backup, this does not mean I dismissed everybody's point of view. Well, if ppl here prefer to believe that 65nm is superior than 55nm in OC'ing, rather than giving me a more valid proof (eg. comparing an apple to an apple for a start) then I can end my search for answer right here. enough said.  doh.gif cool.gif
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sure, good luck in researching biggrin.gif
I don't want to get missleading by forumers, no one like it, because im planning for another gpu smile.gif
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1 Question

If Like What Some Ppl Said. 65nm Better Than 55nm.
What's The Point New 55nm Launch For?

Or 55nm Better Performance & Lower Power. Just OC Ability Lower Than 65nm ?

Is That Mean? Or?
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 09:17 PM)
Well I just think that before anyone starts giving a controversial or contradicting statement, he/she should have a valid explanations or valid proof before causing flames in the thread. just because some guy said so, and just simply taking the words for it does not prove the statement is valid. All I want is a good solid proof with good reference to backup, this does not mean I dismissed everybody's point of view. Well, if ppl here prefer to believe that 65nm is superior than 55nm in OC'ing, rather than giving me a more valid proof (eg. comparing an apple to an apple for a start) then I can end my search for answer right here. enough said.  doh.gif cool.gif
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do you need to borrow my graphic card to convince you ?
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Mar 2 2009, 08:34 PM)
sure, good luck in researching  biggrin.gif
I don't want to get missleading by forumers, no one like it, because im planning for another gpu  smile.gif
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Thanks bro, but I've done my reasearch already, so i'm fine. And yes, I dont like by mislead by others too, nor do I like seeing others being mislead. In the end, buyers will have to do research and decide by themselves what's best for them.
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 07:36 PM)
1 Question

If Like What Some Ppl Said. 65nm Better Than 55nm.
What's The Point New 55nm Launch For?

Or 55nm Better Performance & Lower Power. Just OC Ability Lower Than 65nm ?

Is That Mean? Or?
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55nm Performace more better than 65nm product if stock speed vs stock speed.

GTX280 need 1 6 pin 1 8 pin....GTX285 because of 55nm so only need two 6 pin can run it already. So it requires more minimum power to run it.

GTX280 cannot runs on ST56F , but GTX285 runs on ST56 no problem at all
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QUOTE(xelnamikaze @ Mar 2 2009, 08:36 PM)
do you need to borrow my graphic card to convince you ?
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yours is 65nm or 55nm? I actually dun mind to be honest, but i live in perak. sad.gif otherwise more GC to borrow for testing brows.gif
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Mar 2 2009, 08:39 PM)
55nm Performace more better than 65nm product if stock speed vs stock speed.

GTX280 need 1 6 pin 1 8 pin....GTX285 because of 55nm so only need two 6 pin can run it already.  So it requires more minimum power to run it.

GTX280 cannot runs on ST56F , but GTX285 runs on ST56 no problem at all
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OIc.. ThankYou For The Info..

How About Normal 285GTx, Possible To Flash EVGA 285 SSC Bios? smile.gif
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why do you even need to bother whether 55nm or 65nm is better ?

you are using GTX295 which doesn't have a 55nm version ..
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 07:41 PM)
OIc.. ThankYou For The Info..

How About Normal 285GTx, Possible To Flash EVGA 285 SSC Bios? smile.gif
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Normal GTX285 is Core 648mhz ..this EVGA SSC is 702mhz.

OC it to 702mhz Core 2646MHz Memory...should be ok to flash it.

Or just buy from Karom lor...seamonster u rich mar...no need take the risk

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 09:41 PM)
OIc.. ThankYou For The Info..

How About Normal 285GTx, Possible To Flash EVGA 285 SSC Bios? smile.gif
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what brand of reference GTX285 you refering bro ?
i don't think every manufacturer produce the same.
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QUOTE(xelnamikaze @ Mar 2 2009, 08:43 PM)
why do you even need to bother whether 55nm or 65nm is better ?

you are using GTX295 which doesn't have a 55nm version ..
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Yah i know. Since there are other cards to play around with, why not? anyway thanks for offer, appreciate it smile.gif
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I'm Playing 295GTx Now. Seem Not Really Suit For Me.. Dual GPU Gc Seem Hard To Control..

Want Try 285GTx Later.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 2 2009, 05:45 PM)
well,tested both 55nm and 65nm.
55nm GTX260 Sonic Dual Fan oc to 710mhz BSOD
65nm GTX260 Stock fan oc to 740mhz and still going smile.gif
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65nm sure give more room to OC bczuse 55nm is sure cut cost version/power of 65nm GTX260... rclxms.gif


but its really funny got some1 said GTX260 55nm is 10% more powerful then the 65nm version...forgot the name d... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 2 2009, 09:00 PM)
65nm sure give more room to OC bczuse 55nm is sure cut cost version/power of 65nm GTX260... rclxms.gif
but its really funny got some1 said GTX260 55nm is 10% more powerful then the 65nm version...forgot the name d... sweat.gif
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Some1 Just Replied In Thread. 55nm 260 Better In Performance.
I'm Confusing Now rclxub.gif



QUOTE(RegentCid @ Mar 2 2009, 08:39 PM)
55nm Performace more better than 65nm product if stock speed vs stock speed.

GTX280 need 1 6 pin 1 8 pin....GTX285 because of 55nm so only need two 6 pin can run it already.  So it requires more minimum power to run it.

GTX280 cannot runs on ST56F , but GTX285 runs on ST56 no problem at all
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So Which 1 Is The Actual Answer? 2 Story

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 09:03 PM)
Some1 Just Replied In Thread. 55nm 260 Better In Performance.
I'm Confusing Now  rclxub.gif
So Which 1 Is The Actual Answer? 2 Story
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erm..Im said about GTX260 216 55nm and GTX260 216 65nm lol...

about GTX 280 and GTX285 i dunno about tat.... sweat.gif

btw,the 55nm version of GTX260 heatsink is smaller than the size of 65nm version...lol

Here the Link : http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/27/the-fir...e-gtx260.html/2



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Bro.. If I'm Not Mistake There Is No 280GTx 55nm ?

The Guy Is Talking About 260GTx..

So?
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 09:16 PM)
Bro.. If I'm Not Mistake There Is No 280GTx 55nm ?

The Guy Is Talking About 260GTx..

So?
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i tot GTX280 is 65nm and GTX285 is 55nm?

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280 & 285 Is 2 Different Model Product, Sir

Unlike 260GTx 65nm & 260GTx 55nm
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just go for 55nm, u can never go wrong. u save power, less heat and same/better performance and oc'bility

in other words, GTX 285 or GTX 260(55nm)

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 09:25 PM)
280 & 285 Is 2 Different Model Product, Sir

Unlike 260GTx 65nm & 260GTx 55nm
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I know...GTX285 can be regarded as GTX280 Overclocking Edition based on 55nm processing..

both 55nm and 65nm share same spec...how come 55nm more better than 65nm in term of Performance? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 2 2009, 09:32 PM)
I know...GTX285 can be regarded as GTX280 Overclocking Edition based on 55nm processing..

both 55nm and 65nm share same spec...how come 55nm more better than 65nm in term of Performance?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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we are talking about the same chip except that it was shrunken. If we are talking about power consumption and heat. 55nm DEFINITELY better than 65nm.

performance wise, it's debatable. but I PERSONALLY think that 55nm is NOT WORSE than 65nm when it comes to performance (but really depends on how u define performance though).

let's say we are comparing a "65nm [576/1242/999] GTX260" with a "55nm [576/1242/999]" it will give the same PERFORMANCE.
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 2 2009, 09:39 PM)
we are talking about the same chip except that it was shrunken. If we are talking about power consumption and heat. 55nm DEFINITELY better than 65nm.

performance wise, it's debatable. but I PERSONALLY think that 55nm is NOT WORSE than 65nm when it comes to performance (but really depends on how u define performance though).

let's say we are comparing a "65nm [576/1242/999] GTX260" with a "55nm [576/1242/999]" it will give the same PERFORMANCE.

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Aiyak...For sure la...did i got said anything wrong juz now?? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 2 2009, 09:43 PM)
Aiyak...For sure la...did i got said anything wrong juz now??  sweat.gif
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oh yah, just re-read your previous post. that wasn't a question at all, my bad tongue.gif sweat.gif
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just bought myself xfx 9800gtx+ for folding. im thinking of buying 260gtx+ at first but change my mind last minute coz im building another rig as a backup pc..
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I believe there are one or two heatpipes missing on the 55nm and has less copper in the heatsink. That being said, people are making too much out of it, both the 65nm and the 55nm heatsinks work just fine and run about the same temps. The fact that a smaller die size runs the same temp is a bad thing. It should be cooler and more efficient.
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QUOTE(gamers maniac @ Mar 2 2009, 10:57 PM)
just bought myself xfx 9800gtx+ for folding. im thinking of buying 260gtx+ at first but change my mind last minute coz im building another rig as a backup pc..
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koko folding ah, i miss folding so much buy i need to work with my pc oh.. cry.gif

i only got one pc to use cry.gif so sad cry.gif , 9800gtx+ can fold like 7k ppd oh.. cry.gif my 88gt can do 6k only(far above average ) cry.gif
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Incredibly they actually FIXED my burned 8800gtx! So i yank out the 4870 and slot in the 8800gtx and guess what: 20 f***ing fps increase in gta 4 benchmarking test! Ati is really a worthless son of a prostitute.

So do i need to totally remove the crappy ati driver to avoid conflict with my new nvidia driver? I already uninstalled the catalyst control center.

Hail Nvidia!
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Mar 2 2009, 11:29 PM)
Incredibly they actually FIXED my burned 8800gtx! So i yank out the 4870 and slot in the 8800gtx and guess what: 20 f***ing fps increase in gta 4 benchmarking test! Ati is really a worthless son of a prostitute.

So do i need to totally remove the crappy ati driver to avoid conflict with my new nvidia driver? I already uninstalled the catalyst control center.

Hail Nvidia!
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wah koko, the ATI card so lan si one ah ? cry.gif
stay with nvidia ^^v
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Mar 2 2009, 10:29 PM)
Incredibly they actually FIXED my burned 8800gtx! So i yank out the 4870 and slot in the 8800gtx and guess what: 20 f***ing fps increase in gta 4 benchmarking test! Ati is really a worthless son of a prostitute.

So do i need to totally remove the crappy ati driver to avoid conflict with my new nvidia driver? I already uninstalled the catalyst control center.

Hail Nvidia!
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Normal uninstallation will do, but CC cleaner will totally remove the ati driver

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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Mar 2 2009, 10:29 PM)
Incredibly they actually FIXED my burned 8800gtx! So i yank out the 4870 and slot in the 8800gtx and guess what: 20 f***ing fps increase in gta 4 benchmarking test! Ati is really a worthless son of a prostitute.

So do i need to totally remove the crappy ati driver to avoid conflict with my new nvidia driver? I already uninstalled the catalyst control center.

Hail Nvidia!
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Or u can use driver sweeper smile.gif
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Yeap.. But didn't u know that gtaiv game is optimized for nvidia card in the first place? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 2 2009, 10:02 PM)
I believe there are one or two heatpipes missing on the 55nm and has less copper in the heatsink. That being said, people are making too much out of it, both the 65nm and the 55nm heatsinks work just fine and run about the same temps. The fact that a smaller die size runs the same temp is a bad thing. It should be cooler and more efficient.
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looks more like less heatsink fin (notice the front part of the cooler) and the heatpipe also looks 'less' somehow
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i wonder my 8800GT isit boleh buang dah ?
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8800Gt still good...my AMD rig are using 9600Gt only...can play all modern games in high setting on 17 inch LCD.

Crysis , far cry , warhead ,mirror edge , GTA4 etc all in high setting
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QUOTE(redsn0w @ Mar 2 2009, 11:00 PM)
i wonder my 8800GT isit boleh buang dah ?
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depending on:

your monitor size
whether u wanna play very graphic hungry games
if your psu can handle more powerful GC

btw, here's more pics of the 65nm and 55nm GTX260 coolers

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here's the orginal link http://en.expreview.com/2008/12/27/the-fir...e-gtx260.html/2
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 2 2009, 09:43 PM)
Aiyak...For sure la...did i got said anything wrong juz now??  sweat.gif
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Yes, You Said 260GTx 65nm Better Than 260GTx 55nm Coz Cut Price Product

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guys i am wondering when will the 65nm gtx 260 phased out? i am thinking of getting it next month leh....hopefully can avoid buying the 55nm version
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QUOTE(redsn0w @ Mar 2 2009, 11:00 PM)
i wonder my 8800GT isit boleh buang dah ?
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QUOTE(Pro-MX @ Mar 2 2009, 11:23 PM)
guys i am wondering when will the 65nm gtx 260 phased out? i am thinking of getting it next month leh....hopefully can avoid buying the 55nm version
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next month sure still have stock lah... but really.. I dun see why u should avoid 55nm GTX260, if the price is right just go for it.
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Guys Below RM350 can buy any type of NVIDIA graphic card?
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QUOTE(cougar richard @ Mar 3 2009, 12:37 AM)
Guys Below RM350 can buy any type of NVIDIA graphic card?
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koko u can get 9600gt at Rm350 around cry.gif
add more rm50 get 8800gt ma, its a good card after all cry.gif
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QUOTE(redsn0w @ Mar 2 2009, 11:00 PM)
i wonder my 8800GT isit boleh buang dah ?
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dont buang ar..
when you dont want that time give to me la tongue.gif

QUOTE(cougar richard @ Mar 2 2009, 11:37 PM)
Guys Below RM350 can buy any type of NVIDIA graphic card?
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if you're lucky you might be able to find a 2nd hand 8800GT lurking around at that price brows.gif
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haha, i've always wanted to try SLI for a long time already. no chance yet..
now no money to get a 2nd card cry.gif
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8800GT SLI will be good value for now...can boost more FPS on modern games.

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yeah, with newer and more graphic intensive games together with high reso monitors, a 2nd gc is really a good boost and also sort of a cheaper upgrade instead of getting a totally new highend card.
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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Mar 2 2009, 11:16 PM)
Yes, You Said 260GTx 65nm Better Than 260GTx 55nm Coz Cut Price Product
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MAYBE better in OCed ability.. but dunno till some1 prove it...maybe like ace combat example? hmm...

Ya..55nm is Cut Cost Product...look the cooler + heatsink for 55nm...the price should be cheaper then 65nm model rite...
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Mar 3 2009, 12:08 AM)
yeah, with newer and more graphic intensive games together with high reso monitors, a 2nd gc is really a good boost and also sort of a cheaper upgrade instead of getting a totally new highend card.
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yeah i agreed with that... rig also look like very ganas too tongue.gif
btw, i also thinking to get another 9800GT since i cant afford to buy GTX series yet... cry.gif
but dunno worth o not? 9800GT price still RM400+ doh.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 3 2009, 12:33 AM)
MAYBE better in OCed ability.. but dunno till some1 prove it...maybe like ace combat example? hmm...

Ya..55nm is Cut Cost Product...look the cooler + heatsink for 55nm...the price should be cheaper then 65nm model rite...
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not necessary bro. they might pull down the price of the 65nm variant first and then slowly bring in the 55nm, so to make it easier to phase out from the market, so they don't end up with loads of 65nm cards in their stocks.
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QUOTE(Abyssio @ Mar 2 2009, 10:29 PM)
Incredibly they actually FIXED my burned 8800gtx! So i yank out the 4870 and slot in the 8800gtx and guess what: 20 f***ing fps increase in gta 4 benchmarking test! Ati is really a worthless son of a prostitute.

So do i need to totally remove the crappy ati driver to avoid conflict with my new nvidia driver? I already uninstalled the catalyst control center.

Hail Nvidia!
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20 fps increase? omg.... from my Vannila 9800gtx+ to Gainward 4850 GS around 15 fps increase like tat.... i tot New ATi driver already optimize for GTA...huh lame...
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Mar 3 2009, 12:37 AM)
yeah i agreed with that... rig also look like very ganas too tongue.gif
btw, i also thinking to get another 9800GT since i cant afford to buy GTX series yet... cry.gif
but dunno worth o not? 9800GT price still RM400+ doh.gif
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yeah, when you tell ppl you have SLI system only they'll go "wah..." first laugh.gif
what model gc you SLI with they don't care first..

bata got sell xfx gc at garage sales, i saw the price quite cheap. maybe you can get from there tongue.gif

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i bought my desktop on 2005 with Foxconn 648-661series mother board...
and GeForce FX5200 256... now, i think i wan to give life back to that pc.. but, don't know which GC will fit with it....

this is the Motherboard info...

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pls guys... help me with your comment....
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well since you're asking in the nvidia thread then we shall recommend you a nvidia card laugh.gif

technically any agp cards should do fine with your current setup.
it's rather hard now to find agp8x nvidia cards in the market, you might have better luck in finding them at the garage sales. most importantly please state your budget also smile.gif
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QUOTE(cougar richard @ Mar 2 2009, 11:37 PM)
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Alot. .

If New Gc Then 9600GT, 9500GT . . .

Used, Then 8800GT, 8800GTs 320Mb & 640Mb
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QUOTE(dlwl @ Mar 3 2009, 12:53 AM)
bata got sell xfx gc at garage sales, i saw the price quite cheap. maybe you can get from there tongue.gif
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Quite cheap but refurbished.... I never trust refurbished products....
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wow, seems like my last post in the old thread regarding 55nm ociblility provoked a debate and discussion that results a new thread and its in page 5 already! tongue.gif jk

back to topic, well, technically thinking i thought 55nm would be more efficient than the 65nm, but after reading from here seems like most 65nm (for nvidia case) seems to oc better than the 55nm.

and as for the heatsink/heatpipe/backplate thing with the 260, is it just with 260 only or the same reduce of heatsink/heatpipe/backplate issue with the 280 and 285?

thanks!
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QUOTE(arct @ Mar 3 2009, 10:52 AM)
wow, seems like my last post in the old thread regarding 55nm ociblility provoked a debate and discussion that results a new thread and its in page 5 already!  tongue.gif jk

back to topic, well, technically thinking i thought 55nm would be more efficient than the 65nm, but after reading from here seems like most 65nm (for nvidia case) seems to oc better than the 55nm.

and as for the heatsink/heatpipe/backplate thing with the 260, is it just with 260 only or the same reduce of heatsink/heatpipe/backplate issue with the 280 and 285?

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Yah, that's what they claimed.

Cooler wise for gtx 285 and 280. Afaik, i only know that 285 doesnt have a backplate like 280. But not sure about the hsf design though...
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QUOTE(Aura @ Mar 3 2009, 09:32 AM)
Quite cheap but refurbished.... I never trust refurbished products....
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Coz Not Cheap Enough Right? doh.gif
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But Also Having 1Year Retail Warranty What.. Why Not Give A Try ?

Coz Not Cheap Enough Right? doh.gif
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Even if I'm short of 1 card, I will not buy refurbished products.... Better save the money to get something else.... Here's the reason why.....

From my experience, refurbished products might break down more often if u get those that are repaired..... If customer returns, then different story la.... But what are the chances of u getting the better ones???? It's like a million to one.... So, better not risk it....
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 2 2009, 03:53 PM)
Rm1100 for xfx gtx280.. smile.gif
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holy  drool.gif
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y not gtx285?  tongue.gif
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Yeah.. But still, gtx285 > gtx280 in terms of performance.. (but not by far) gtx280 selling cheap now as gtx285 is the replacement model for it.. But I do miss the sexy backplate though.. sad.gif
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Rebranded VGA card from nVidia again... with a very nice price wor...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/palit-geforc...mb-review-test/

For technical thingy, read yourself at guru3d la...

512mb = USD129x3.7 = RM477
1024mb = USD149x3.7 = RM551
2048mb = USD169x3.7 = RM625

So, 9800GTX+ price going to come down like a ROCK liao...

So, are you happy or are you sad...?

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Much cheaper man the price for the 1GB version if that the price that will be used over here
If is the same as the 9800GTX+ the same specs & there a dedicated HDMI output if that the GTS250 as show in the pic then is quite good
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why so few special edition for gtx285 n above? gtx 260 always get special treatment.. sweat.gif i jealous at them.. sad.gif
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graphic card for laptop replace-able? if you are currently using integrated graphic for lappie, sorry, but u cant upgrade it's graphic.. if ur lappie using independent gc , very very rare to find the gc for lappie and if u do so, no more warranty for ur laptop.. doh.gif


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256MB.

Just need FPS for my games.
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I dun think this is possible since laptop graphics cards are always stuck together with the mobo although it is dedicated.... So, u r better off buying another laptop....
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no problem dude
first test and see whether ure card can run

mine now is ftw..

y i like the evga is only because of the evga precision tools to monitor and control the gc temp etc..

last few pages a lot of rubbish from ppl who has so few cards and know nothing.


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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 3 2009, 05:18 PM)
Yeah.. But still, gtx285 > gtx280 in terms of performance.. (but not by far) gtx280 selling cheap now as gtx285 is the replacement model for it.. But I do miss the sexy backplate though.. sad.gif
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what i'm saying is that if someone is thinking of buying either GTX 285 or GTX 280. better go for GTX 285. those already GTX 280 just keep their GC, coz it's pointless to upgrade and a waste of money, just so that we can get 2-3 fps boost... smile.gif

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:20 PM)
no problem dude
first test and see whether ure card can run

mine now is ftw..

y i like the evga is only because of the evga precision tools to monitor and control the gc temp etc..

last few pages a lot of rubbish from ppl who has so few cards and know nothing.
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What's the frequencies of ur cards now??? So, how's the performance??? Also, how far did u try to OC ur GTX280s last time???
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:20 PM)
no problem dude
first test and see whether ure card can run

mine now is ftw..

y i like the evga is only because of the evga precision tools to monitor and control the gc temp etc..

last few pages a lot of rubbish from ppl who has so few cards and know nothing.
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bro mind to shed some of your view on 65nm vs 55nm?
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QUOTE(Aura @ Mar 3 2009, 06:24 PM)
What's the frequencies of ur cards now??? So, how's the performance??? Also, how far did u try to OC ur GTX280s last time???
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that time the voltage tuner thingy was not out yet so didnt try

QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 3 2009, 06:27 PM)
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basically the 55nm also has lower 3 clocks, 3vid's.. this address the higher power consumption rate..
yes nvidia also cut cost with changing the pwm buck controller from volttera to intersil.
and yes they also reduce the cooling performance of the stock fan.

but on the other hand look at the mem chips.. they are better binned, smaller and all one side of the card.

a gtx280 can be overclocked as far as a gtx285 interms of cpu clock speed only
shader and especially mem speed.. gtx285 .. is king.

i run my gtx285 100% fan speed all the time.. and its not even noisy..
my coolit pump is much nosier.
the gtx280 was much noisier..

also gtx280 hard to do a vmod but the gtx285 is easy..
ive clocked mine on profile up to 776/1720/2404..
but the heat it produce was incredible
so far stock cooling at 100% fan speed 720/1620/1390 seems to be under 79C without aircon..
so will stick to that.
3dmark06 with ht is already 29k in xp
and 3dmark06 without ht in is already 27k in vista
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM)
702.. about the same as the zotac amp version couldnt go higher
that time the voltage tuner thingy was not out yet so didnt try
basically the 55nm also has lower 3 clocks, 3vid's.. this address the higher power consumption rate..
yes nvidia also cut cost with changing the pwm buck controller from volttera to intersil.
and yes they also reduce the cooling performance of the stock fan.

but on the other hand look at the mem chips.. they are better binned, smaller and all one side of the card.

a gtx280 can be overclocked as far as a gtx285 interms of cpu clock speed only
shader and especially mem speed.. gtx285 .. is king.

i run my gtx285 100% fan speed all the time.. and its not even noisy..
my coolit pump is much nosier.
the gtx280 was much noisier..

also gtx280 hard to do a vmod but the gtx285 is easy..
ive clocked mine on profile up to 776/1720/2404..
but the heat it produce was incredible
so far stock cooling at 100% fan speed 720/1620/1390 seems to be under 79C without aircon..
so will stick to that.
3dmark06 with ht is already 29k in xp
and 3dmark06 without ht in is already 27k in vista
what else could i want kekeke
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM)
also gtx280 hard to do a vmod but the gtx285 is easy..
ive clocked mine on profile up to 776/1720/2404..
but the heat it produce was incredible
so far stock cooling at 100% fan speed 720/1620/1390 seems to be under 79C without aircon..
so will stick to that.
3dmark06 with ht is already 29k in xp
and 3dmark06 without ht in is already 27k in vista
what else could i want kekeke
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one or 2 more for SLi? laugh.gif
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uik already got two for sli bro.. kekeke

one thing i do understand getting two gtx285 is really expensive
a gtx295 is 1.2-1.3k cheaper
a gtx260 tri-sli is also cheaper .
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 3 2009, 06:06 PM)
graphic card for laptop replace-able? if you are currently using integrated graphic for lappie, sorry, but u cant upgrade it's graphic.. if ur lappie using independent gc , very very rare to find the gc for lappie and if u do so, no more warranty for ur laptop.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM)
702.. about the same as the zotac amp version couldnt go higher
that time the voltage tuner thingy was not out yet so didnt try
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Ic ic... Maybe I should try the voltage tuner if I hav the time....

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM)
a gtx280 can be overclocked as far as a gtx285 interms of cpu clock speed only
shader and especially mem speed.. gtx285 .. is king.
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Ic ic... I think the only conclusion is GTX285 wins the GTX280 in terms of the shader and mem speed department, right???

Too bad u din try to vmod ur GTX280s to c whether can get better clocks.... Would like to c the results....


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:44 PM)
uik already got two for sli bro.. kekeke

one thing i do understand getting two gtx285 is really expensive
a gtx295 is 1.2-1.3k cheaper
a gtx260 tri-sli is also cheaper .
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But performance will be better mah.... One thing I noticed about GTX295 is that it seems to struggle in keeping the FPS constant....

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Bro cstkl1, so that means the GTX 285 will never be able to work with the EVGA voltage tuner? since 285 uses the Intersil ISL6327. No wonder GTX 280 is in the supported list instead of GTX 285

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 3 2009, 06:53 PM)
Bro cstkl1, so that means the GTX 285 will never be able to work with the EVGA voltage tuner? since 285 uses the Intersil ISL6327. No wonder GTX 280 is in the supported list instead of GTX 285
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dont need
just vmod edit the bios and flash it.. whats so hard..
i normally hate software overclocks. cause its inconsistent and also depends on the software running int he background

yup gtx285, gtx260 55nm will never be able to ..


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:55 PM)
dont need
just vmod edit the bios and flash it.. whats so hard..
i normally hate software overclocks. cause its inconsistent and also depends on the software running int he background

yup gtx285, gtx260 55nm will never be able to ..
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 06:55 PM)
dont need
just vmod edit the bios and flash it.. whats so hard..
i normally hate software overclocks. cause its inconsistent and also depends on the software running int he background

yup gtx285, gtx260 55nm will never be able to ..
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The onli good thing about software is that can test 1st before applying the settings to the bios....
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eh bios also can set core clock ??
i thought only can adjust volt only >.>.
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can.... u can set the bios volt, core, etc...
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but..adjusting the bios setting might void the warranty ??
i want to do so >.<
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dont set the vid table in the bios unless u know what ure doing..

when i say vmod its physical vmod of the card

warrantty easy.. if card dying
just blind flash the card back to the original bios
and take off the soldering work uve done ( take note u got to be good with this.. its not hard just some kemahiran hidup at work here)

gtx295 however u can change vid in the bios


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looks hard
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 09:38 PM)
dont set the vid table in the bios unless u know what ure doing..

when i say vmod its physical vmod of the card

warrantty easy.. if card dying
just blind flash the card back to the original bios
and take off the soldering work uve done ( take note u got to be good with this.. its not hard just some kemahiran hidup at work here)

gtx295 however u can change vid in the bios
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manage to oc to 701/1220/1425 2day and passed vantage's graphic test 1 and 2 but the card fecking failed on a featured test doh.gif doh.gif .gonna gv up on oc-ing for the moment being

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 09:38 PM)
dont set the vid table in the bios unless u know what ure doing..

when i say vmod its physical vmod of the card

warrantty easy.. if card dying
just blind flash the card back to the original bios
and take off the soldering work uve done ( take note u got to be good with this.. its not hard just some kemahiran hidup at work here)

gtx295 however u can change vid in the bios
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u also mentioned that u edit the bios. which software are u using for editing bro?


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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 3 2009, 10:13 PM)
manage to oc to 701/1220/1425 2day and passed vantage's graphic test 1 and 2 but the card fecking failed on a featured test doh.gif  doh.gif .gonna gv up on oc-ing for the moment being
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that sounds very sad bro.... dun give up lol tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 3 2009, 10:13 PM)
manage to oc to 701/1220/1425 2day and passed vantage's graphic test 1 and 2 but the card fecking failed on a featured test doh.gif  doh.gif .gonna gv up on oc-ing for the moment being
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nice...try disable the featured test and c the marks first...and how about the temp bro? got reach 90c? ><"
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use nibitor to edit nvidia bios

except for gtx295/gtx285 u need nibitor 4.9..
only available for download if u donate a certain amount..

to flash use nvflash
run in bootdisk .. floppy.. usb.
commands are easy
nvflash -i(0,1,2,3,4,5.. gpu) -4 ( overide the protection) -5 -6 (name of bios).rom
to backup
nvflash -b -i(01,2,3,4,5..gpu) (name of bios example backup.rom).rom

gtx 295 or sli systems

example like me
nvflash -b -i0 zotac1.rom backup second card
nvflash -i0 -4 -5 -6 ftw.rom for first card
nvflash -b -i1 zotac2.rom backup second card
nvflash -i1 -4 -5 -6 ftw.rom for second card

gtx 295 should be the same.

take note its ure risk to find the correct bios etc and trust the person who gave it to u.

have fun

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 10:59 PM)
use nibitor to edit nvidia bios

except for gtx295/gtx285 u need nibitor 4.9..
only available for download if u donate a certain amount..

to flash use nvflash
run in bootdisk .. floppy.. usb.
commands are easy
nvflash -i(0,1,2,3,4,5.. gpu) -4 ( overide the protection) -5 -6 (name of bios).rom
to backup
nvflash -b -i(01,2,3,4,5..gpu) (name of bios example backup.rom).rom

gtx 295 or sli systems

example like me
nvflash -b -i0 zotac1.rom backup second card
nvflash -i0 -4 -5 -6 ftw.rom for first card
nvflash -b -i1 zotac2.rom backup second card
nvflash -i1 -4 -5 -6 ftw.rom for second card

gtx 295 should be the same.

take note its ure risk to find the correct bios etc and trust the person who gave it to u.

have fun
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omg thanks bro. at least I get the idea now.
but yah, that's why I was wondering about Nibitor 4.9. I can only find 4.8. Guess I will just have to wait a bit. so far, I'm quite satisfied with the GTX 295's performance. even at stock voltage of 1.038V gives enough juice to push from 576/1242/999 to 658/1418/1105, and it's not even the maximum. Only that sometimes my hands gatal, just feel like pushing its limit and see how far it can go.

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 3 2009, 10:20 PM)
u also mentioned that u edit the bios. which software are u using for editing bro?


Added on March 3, 2009, 10:23 pm

that sounds very sad bro.... dun give up lol tongue.gif
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will try again in the future but nt so soon for sure tongue.gif.is gc oc capability related anyway to the mobo or psu?

QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 3 2009, 10:49 PM)
nice...try disable the featured test and c the marks first...and how about the temp bro? got reach 90c? ><"
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btw my card is flashed with custom vmod bios bringing up the extra to 1.12v

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nibitor vgpu tweaking will help ?
I even tweak my 88gt to 1.2v , no effect on stability wink.gif
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u cannot change vid numbers on gtx 260,280,285

only 295

so ure busted..

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 3 2009, 11:34 PM)
u cannot change vid numbers on gtx 260,280,285

only 295

so ure busted..
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is tht refering to me?i only chged the voltage on exact mode,didn't touch anythg on vid
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 4 2009, 12:34 AM)
u cannot change vid numbers on gtx 260,280,285

only 295

so ure busted..
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hahaha.....
dude, one thing to ask you ( which i finding the answer quite long ) ,
the nibitor vgpu tweaking won't work for all gpu right ?
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u just said u flashed ure bios with a vidmod bios
that means they change the vid number..

wont work again for gtx260,285,280

only gtx295


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i jz followed this guide

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=66296

shld i flash bck to original bios?still hv the backup

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recently i notice my Galaxy 9800GT temperature was hit 90+ degree during play game....
is it something wrong with my cooler right? need RMA or change cooler?

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whats the fan speed during tht?
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may be 30%... but i leave it default setting... are the stock cooler is not PWM? if yes, automatically adjust fan speed accordingly the temperature ma....
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recently i notice my Galaxy 9800GT temperature was hit 90+ degree during play game....
is it something wrong with my cooler right? need RMA or change cooler?
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your fan even spin ? I wonder.
my friends 8500gt goes to 100c when loading, fan kong-ed laugh.gif
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biggrin.gif may be my fan din spin... will check it out..
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but if fan can spin then how? wat problems?
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Want to ask, Is GTS250 going to perform better than 9800GTX+?

Since GTS250 is here, by right the price of 9800GTX+ should drop right?

The performance is benchmark against HD4850 right?
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from some reviews that i've read, it's quite close between those 2 cards but seems that HD4850 is still leading.

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:23 AM)
Want to ask, Is GTS250 going to perform better than 9800GTX+?

Since GTS250 is here, by right the price of 9800GTX+ should drop right?

The performance is benchmark against HD4850 right?
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Gts250 is pretty much a 9800gtx+ with a slightly higher oc and smaller remade pcb. Nothing more. This is even dumber than upgrading from gtx 280 to gtx 285, as for gtx 285 we get 55nm chip with more potential. Gts250 is just part of their marketing strategy to make their product lineup looks good. AFAIK, galaxy alrdy released a version of shorter pcb for the 9800gtx+, just in case if u all thought that gts250 new pcb awes you. But it's about time they officialized the new shorter pcb version, which the longer pcb doesnt even justify for its performance, lol

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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 4 2009, 11:08 AM)
Gts250 is pretty much a 9800gtx+ with a slightly higher oc and smaller remade pcb. Nothing more. This is even dumber than upgrading from gtx 280 to gtx 285, as for gtx 285 we get 55nm chip with more potential. Gts250 is just part of their marketing strategy to make their product lineup looks good. AFAIK, galaxy alrdy released a version of shorter pcb for the 9800gtx+, just in case if u all thought that gts250 new pcb awes you. But it's about time they officialized the new shorter pcb version, which the longer pcb doesnt even justify for its performance, lol
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Will the new gts250 require lower power than gtx+ does? Moreover gts250 needs only one 6 pin power plug.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Mar 4 2009, 11:51 AM)
Will the new gts250 require lower power than gtx+ does? Moreover gts250 needs only one 6 pin power plug.
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Yes the power requirement is less, but not at a significant amount. Why dun u try google around for gts250 review? There r alrdy tonnes of them all over the web. smile.gif
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hai guys
i just got my gtx 260 few days ago icon_rolleyes.gif
ok, i will install it tonight
the latest driver version 182.06 support both my 8500gt & gtx 260
so, ca i just install gtx 260 without uninstall my latest nvidia driver?? rclxub.gif
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Hell no. Must uninstall the driver 1st. Install the card, then reinstall the same driver. FYI forceware 182.08 is out. But not much diff compare to 182.06. Only added support to new cards such as gts250
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 4 2009, 04:38 PM)
hai guys
i just got my gtx 260 few days ago icon_rolleyes.gif
ok, i will install it tonight
the latest driver version 182.06 support both my 8500gt & gtx 260
so, ca i just install gtx 260 without uninstall my latest nvidia driver?? rclxub.gif
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nid to really clean all the driver files bro...later end up like me...my 4850 spotted as 4670.... sweat.gif

btw,i already delete use driver sweeper and all driver cleaner and safe mode..but still spotted as 4670 tat time...maybe driver/vista glitch... sweat.gif
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More like driver glitch to me.
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subrok try make u fan speed 50% using extreme tuner sometime extreme tuner will bug if u make 100% speed it will automatic off that fan >.> suck rite
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help..i set my speed FAN at 60%..idle at 49c full load around 66c
but if i set it to 80% i also got same temps..then i changed it @ 40% and i got same temperatures ! ! what da heck happen to my gc??!
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QUOTE(teamloks @ Mar 4 2009, 08:54 PM)
subrok try make u fan speed 50% using extreme tuner sometime extreme tuner will bug if u make 100% speed it will automatic off that fan >.> suck rite
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 4 2009, 09:29 PM)
help..i set my speed FAN at 60%..idle at 49c full load around 66c
but if i set it to 80% i also got same temps..then i changed it @ 40% and i got same temperatures ! ! what da heck happen to my gc??!
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might be the sensors got prob?or after u reset the fanspeed try restarting the sensor application,or wait for a while.sometimes temp takes time to decrease
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guys, just installed palit gtx 260 sonic
everything seems good, but....
i accidentally bend my IDE cable, make my dvd drive hang awhile doh.gif
here the pic
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DMC4 test
the result quite surprise even though i knew it already thumbup.gif
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accidentally post sweat.gif

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btw there's no way we could control the gpu fan speed in bios right? in the end i'll have to rely on software to do that right? so currently which is the best / stable software to control my gpu fan speed? kinda feel that my card is hot! (still not used to temp more than 70 to 80C for a card, even my mobo and cpu temp rise when gaming. all exhaust fan are pushing out hot air, casing is so hot i feel like sitting beside a radiator or something. tongue.gif )

btw AC accelero extream is out already right? brows.gif

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i think software is the only thing tat we can control fan hmm.gif
btw, how to check whether my new psu & gtx 260 function properly??
some of u guys said using furmark or 3dmark to stress gpu
then how to test the psu??
so far now i only test devil may cry 4 & maple story sweat.gif no problem at all


Added on March 5, 2009, 4:21 pmhelp!!! icon_question.gif
when i watch the DMC4's event movie (just b4 mission 1 start)
the game suddenly crash, and windows ask me to send error report or dont send
gpu problem?? shocking.gif
i just uninstall 8500gt driver via device manager then straightly reboot & shutdown it (without using driver cleaner)
then i plug in gtx 260 then boot up pc & install new 182.08 driver
yesterday run DMC4 benchmark test without any problem occurs (all super high, 60fps max, 8x MSAA, vsync off)
is it psu has problem?? but if psu has problem, isnt pc will shutdown automatically?? rclxub.gif
will the problem occur bcoz my mobo does not support pci-e 2.0??
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Try re-installing the game, if you use 'ahem' games, you will experience random crashes.
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hahaha dude..dont test ur gpu with maple story happy.gif
if u using lanun version..try get the latest crack lor xD


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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 4 2009, 11:52 PM)
might be the sensors got prob?or after u reset the fanspeed try restarting the sensor application,or wait for a while.sometimes temp takes time to decrease
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problem solved biggrin.gif rclxms.gif thanks !
this weeken i wanna learn how to flash bios wink.gif

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QUOTE(Daltonsama @ Mar 5 2009, 04:57 PM)
Try re-installing the game, if you use 'ahem' games, you will experience random crashes.
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 5 2009, 05:04 PM)
hahaha dude..dont test ur gpu with maple story happy.gif
if u using lanun version..try get the latest crack lor xD
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test awhile, played the bloody palace till mission 20 then lose, no crash
then play some cut-in movies via story theater, no problem occur at all
then watch again the mission 1 intro movie, then crash
looks like only that cut-in movie has problem?? rclxub.gif will uninstall fix it??

this game is original one smile.gif


Added on March 5, 2009, 5:58 pmi have uninstall & reinstall it again
still like tat cry.gif mayb my some of my game dvd data corrupt cry.gif coz has many scratches
haiz cry.gif mayb i borrow my fren pirate version to test again

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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 5 2009, 05:23 PM)
test awhile, played the bloody palace till mission 20 then lose, no crash
then play some cut-in movies via story theater, no problem occur at all
then watch again the mission 1 intro movie, then crash
looks like only that cut-in movie has problem?? rclxub.gif will uninstall fix it??

this game is original one smile.gif


Added on March 5, 2009, 5:58 pmi have uninstall & reinstall it again
still like tat cry.gif mayb my some of my game dvd data corrupt cry.gif coz has many scratches
haiz cry.gif mayb i borrow my fren pirate version to test again
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what about other games? if other games are ok, then i doubt it's GC's problem.
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try update the driver... maybe got conflict...
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QUOTE(edan1979 @ Mar 5 2009, 06:21 PM)
try update the driver... maybe got conflict...
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bro... read what he posted before. he already has the latest driver doh.gif
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 5 2009, 04:01 PM)
i think software is the only thing tat we can control fan hmm.gif
btw, how to check whether my new psu & gtx 260 function properly??
some of u guys said using furmark or 3dmark to stress gpu
then how to test the psu??
so far now i only test devil may cry 4 & maple story sweat.gif no problem at all


Added on March 5, 2009, 4:21 pmhelp!!! icon_question.gif
when i watch the DMC4's event movie (just b4 mission 1 start)
the game suddenly crash, and windows ask me to send error report or dont send
gpu problem?? shocking.gif
i just uninstall 8500gt driver via device manager then straightly reboot & shutdown it (without using driver cleaner)
then i plug in gtx 260 then boot up pc & install new 182.08 driver
yesterday run DMC4 benchmark test without any problem occurs (all super high, 60fps max, 8x MSAA, vsync off)
is it psu has problem?? but if psu has problem, isnt pc will shutdown automatically?? rclxub.gif
will the problem occur bcoz my mobo does not support pci-e 2.0??
[attachmentid=831095]
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if all the solution above still doesn't work,reinstall the game.and keep ur saved files for all the hard work tongue.gif

QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 5 2009, 05:04 PM)
hahaha dude..dont test ur gpu with maple story happy.gif
if u using lanun version..try get the latest crack lor xD


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problem solved  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif  thanks !
this weeken i wanna learn how to flash bios  wink.gif
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http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/389460-nib...mod-gtx260.html

dis will help bro
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 5 2009, 06:15 PM)
what about other games? if other games are ok, then i doubt it's GC's problem.
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only have this game right now blush.gif maple story can also be classified as pc game
btw, i dun think it is gc's problem, bcoz only tat cut-in movie in mission 1 has problem

QUOTE(edan1979 @ Mar 5 2009, 06:21 PM)
try update the driver... maybe got conflict...
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mine is latest 182.08 driver

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 5 2009, 08:23 PM)
if all the solution above still doesn't work,reinstall the game.and keep ur saved files for all the hard work  tongue.gif
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install again sad.gif no change
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Ur DVD corrupted I guess.. Maybe some corrupted file ( the cut scene ) durin installation.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 5 2009, 09:01 PM)
only have this game right now blush.gif maple story can also be classified as pc game
btw, i dun think it is gc's problem, bcoz only tat cut-in movie in mission 1 has problem
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yah u should be ashamed alright, owning such a beasty card with only game (not even crysis) is a disgrace tongue.gif
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Haha, you should try other more intensive graphic games such as crysis/far cry2 to enjoy your well spend card to the max.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 5 2009, 09:22 PM)
yah u should be ashamed alright, owning such a beasty card with only game (not even crysis) is a disgrace tongue.gif
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since u said tat it might b my gc problems
is tat means my new gc has problem?? need to send back to seller??
or just bcoz i uninstall the old driver & unplug old gc then straight install new gtx 260 without using driver cleaner then cause this problem?

btw, my previous gc is 8500gt, run this game is barely enuf
then how to support latest games sweat.gif tats why i just have this game but dun have other latest pc games sweat.gif


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Haha, you should try other more intensive graphic games such as crysis/far cry2 to enjoy your well spend card to the max.. smile.gif
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now focus on solving problems 1st, if u know the causes pls teach me also sad.gif
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That's what I said, maybe your DVD content is corrupted.. (got scratch maybe) since u only encounter this during cut scenes and not the gameplay.. doh.gif don't think there's anything wrong with ur gc, that's why I recommend u to play other games first to see if there's really got the same problem on the other games.. If not, then u are about to waste 1 month or more of ur life without any gc at all to send it for rma.
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no i didn't say that it is your gc's problem bro... since when did i say that...

why dun u try reinstalling the game. or just simply get another game to try. rule out all the possibility one at a time.
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guys..182.06/182.08 show big improvements??

currently using 181.20..
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nt much.but maybe beneficial for those plying fear 2 project origin.read the change log
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 5 2009, 10:11 PM)
guys..182.06/182.08 show big improvements??

currently using 181.20..
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according to the release note, there are approx 10% increase in preformance for quite a few games. who cares whether u can notice any diff, I just download the driver just bcoz it's new. besides, updating your driver is always a good thing (well, most of the time sweat.gif , except for some hiccups which even created bug rarely by developer itself)

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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 5 2009, 09:35 PM)
since u said tat it might b my gc problems
is tat means my new gc has problem?? need to send back to seller??
or just bcoz i uninstall the old driver & unplug old gc then straight install new gtx 260 without using driver cleaner then cause this problem?

btw, my previous gc is 8500gt, run this game is barely enuf
then how to support latest games sweat.gif  tats why i just have this game but dun have other latest pc games sweat.gif
now focus on solving problems 1st, if u know the causes pls teach me also sad.gif
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I think the game problem la...y not u DL any Free Game Demo...like New Hawk Demo or Fear 2 Demo and try it out got problem or not..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 6 2009, 12:40 AM)
according to the release note, there are approx 10% increase in preformance for quite a few games. who cares whether u can notice any diff, I just download the driver just bcoz it's new. besides, updating your driver is always a good thing (well, most of the time sweat.gif , except for some hiccups which even created bug rarely by developer itself)
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they improved GTA4 fps??
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 6 2009, 02:27 PM)
they improved GTA4 fps??
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didn't say in the release note.

here's the link
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_182.08_whql.html
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 5 2009, 09:35 PM)
since u said tat it might b my gc problems
is tat means my new gc has problem?? need to send back to seller??
or just bcoz i uninstall the old driver & unplug old gc then straight install new gtx 260 without using driver cleaner then cause this problem?

btw, my previous gc is 8500gt, run this game is barely enuf
then how to support latest games sweat.gif  tats why i just have this game but dun have other latest pc games sweat.gif
now focus on solving problems 1st, if u know the causes pls teach me also sad.gif
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I did the same thing for my gtx260, just plug out my 8600GT and plugin the gtx260, boot up windows and update driver. Have played FC2, DOWII, L4D all without problem

I think it's better if you can find another game to test
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yeah!! problem is solved smile.gif thanks everyone who gives me suggestion, especially valho notworthy.gif
btw, this game seems has some bugs
some websites state that if set the shadow quality to super high, the game might crash in the mission 1 intro
so i set it to high quality & no problem icon_rolleyes.gif
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Galaxy GTX 260+ 65NM reporting in. Anything to push my GC further?
Should I overclock it?
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 6 2009, 09:33 PM)
yeah!! problem is solved smile.gif thanks everyone who gives me suggestion, especially valho notworthy.gif
btw, this game seems has some bugs
some websites state that if set the shadow quality to super high, the game might crash in the mission 1 intro
so i set it to high quality & no problem icon_rolleyes.gif
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hahha yeah i didn't know about that until u ask me to try coz I just played it on high setting only
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QUOTE(piumiu @ Mar 6 2009, 09:59 PM)
Galaxy GTX 260+ 65NM reporting in. Anything to push my GC further?
Should I overclock it?
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as a normal pc user/gamer, i suggest u not to overclock it for safety purpose smile.gif
btw, rivatuner is a software tat can b used to overclock gc

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hahha yeah i didn't know about that until u ask me to try coz I just played it on high setting only
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laugh.gif even though dmc4 is optimised for pc, super high setting in 1920x1200 resolution might also make gtx 260 stressful sweat.gif
i think tats why u didnt try it
btw, i alwaz find problems accidentally sweat.gif kinda bad sometimes
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1920x1080 at dx10 all settings super high,16xQ AA still playable for me.

average at 55fps

before dis i was at 1680x1050,100+ fps tongue.gif

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btw..can gtx260 perform good at 1920X1080 reso?..i dont play to play this crysis,farcry2,GTA4 for this reso, only for normal game like Tom clancy's H.A.W.X
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yes.but depends on ur preference.some ppl regard 30fps-50fps as slow,while its fast enough for me.as long its nt lag like 20fps below thn im ok with it sweat.gif
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30-40fps is consider abit lagging for me sweat.gif mayb im sensitive
btw, fps thing is differ for each other
if feel good then ok aredi, no need so much fps tongue.gif waste pc usage
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till nw i haven't encounter any really slow scenes in all my games at 1920x1080 reso.except for crysis warhead the train scene sweat.gif
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crysis series is consider monster class pc requirement laugh.gif
btw, both crysis & warhead have good gameplay & replay value??
i might buy them soon
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 6 2009, 10:23 PM)
as a normal pc user/gamer, i suggest u not to overclock it for safety purpose smile.gif
btw, rivatuner is a software tat can b used to overclock gc
laugh.gif even though dmc4 is optimised for pc, super high setting in 1920x1200 resolution might also make gtx 260 stressful sweat.gif
i think tats why u didnt try it
btw, i alwaz find problems accidentally sweat.gif kinda bad sometimes
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yeah at high setting and 8x AA already looks good so no need to put until super high lo

QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 6 2009, 11:12 PM)
btw..can gtx260 perform good at 1920X1080 reso?..i dont play to play this crysis,farcry2,GTA4 for this reso, only for normal game like Tom clancy's H.A.W.X
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H.A.W.X no problem i played the demo on 1920x1200, didn't feel any lag
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 6 2009, 11:19 PM)
till nw i haven't encounter any really slow scenes in all my games at 1920x1080 reso.except for crysis warhead the train scene  sweat.gif
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wah..so this gc not lag when playing crysis at 1920x1080 reso?? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 6 2009, 11:23 PM)
crysis series is consider monster class pc requirement laugh.gif
btw, both crysis & warhead have good gameplay & replay value??
i might buy them soon
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 6 2009, 11:26 PM)
wah..so this gc not lag when playing crysis at 1920x1080 reso?? shocking.gif
damn nice  biggrin.gif
i suggest u buy Crysis: Maximum Edition
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for warhead i use gamer settings with some chg to enthuasist with 2x AA

up to ur preference,if u feel its slow can tweak till ur satisfied
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guys..if i enabled physx, will it reduce my fps??

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Anyone went to lowyat plaza lately? Any stock for XFX GTX260 Black Edition?
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 7 2009, 09:15 AM)
guys..if i enabled physx, will it reduce my fps??
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If PhysX calculations are done over the GPU with an old (CPU bound) game, with a dedicated GPU you will offload the CPU and create more momentum for the CPU and then the framerate can be higher.

If PhysX calculations where done over the GPU with an new more modern (GPU bound) game, it's likely for you to have a lower framerate, as your GPU will have to render more objects with for example particle rich explosions while the CPU load isn't lowered whatsoever.
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one noob Q here...
is GTX260 216 worth to buy nowadays??
compared to 4870 1GB?
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GTAIV ... EVGA GTX285 FTW Sli

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this was auto configured.

gain about 6fps

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less by 3fps

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damn nice fps with core overclocked corei7 with 2x gtx285!!
can i know what is temps for 2 cards??


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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Mar 7 2009, 08:00 PM)
one noob Q here...
is GTX260 216 worth to buy nowadays??
compared to 4870 1GB?
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not worth it..some games +/- like 3-4 fps jer..
tunggu economy ok and price drop lah wink.gif

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one noob Q here...
is GTX260 216 worth to buy nowadays??
compared to 4870 1GB?
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not worth sad.gif both of them have the approximately similar perfomance in most games
even though u have enuf money, i also dun advise u buy it to replace 4870

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gain about 6fps

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wow, u r kinda....rich blink.gif
btw, nice review
gta4 pc version seems badly utilize cpu & gpu, 2xgtx285 & i7 just exceed 60fps a little shocking.gif

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not worth sad.gif both of them have the approximately similar perfomance in most games
even though u have enuf money, i also dun advise u buy it to replace 4870
wow, u r kinda....rich blink.gif
btw, nice review
gta4 pc version seems badly utilize cpu & gpu, 2xgtx285 & i7 just exceed 60fps a little shocking.gif
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gta4 pc version seems badly utilize cpu & gpu, 2xgtx285 & i7 just exceed 60fps a little shocking.gif
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hi ppl, i'm planning to upgrade my gc but i'm not sure if my mobo support anot. can someone help me? icon_question.gif anywaymy mobo model is Gigabyte 965P-DS3 and rite now my gc is msi 7300gt. i wonder if my mobo support ddr3 gc anot? my budget is below rm400 better if below 300. hehe... sweat.gif
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hi ppl, i'm planning to upgrade my gc but i'm not sure if my mobo support anot. can someone help me?  icon_question.gif anywaymy mobo model is Gigabyte 965P-DS3 and rite now my gc is msi 7300gt. i wonder if my mobo support ddr3 gc anot? my budget is below rm400 better if below 300. hehe... sweat.gif
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as long as its pci-express X16, GDDR5 video cards also compatible.
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oic....thx bro. any recommendation gc for my budget??  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ck_blink @ Mar 8 2009, 10:14 AM)
hi ppl, i'm planning to upgrade my gc but i'm not sure if my mobo support anot. can someone help me?  icon_question.gif anywaymy mobo model is Gigabyte 965P-DS3 and rite now my gc is msi 7300gt. i wonder if my mobo support ddr3 gc anot? my budget is below rm400 better if below 300. hehe... sweat.gif
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what is your processor?
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guys i have a budget of 500 ringgit. can anyone suggest me the best card my money can buy?
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guys i have a budget of 500 ringgit. can anyone suggest me the best card my money can buy?
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sounds good. any other ideas?
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hye there all.

i have recently bought Palit GTX285

i've downloaded the latest Nvidia driver for my vista 64-bit. 182.08.

before installing,i already uninstalled the previous driver.i even disabled anti virus.then, when i tried to install the new driver,it takes about 5mins to install which is longer than usual.then finally,it says

"The system has not been modified. To install this program at a later time, run the installation again. Click Finish to exit the wizard."

after rebooting my pc, i can use the GPU as if the driver is installed properly.running 3D Mark 06 with ease.

what is the cause of the problem here actually?why it says system has not been modified? cry.gif
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QUOTE(efilah @ Mar 8 2009, 12:53 PM)
hye there all.

i have recently bought Palit GTX285

i've downloaded the latest Nvidia driver for my vista 64-bit. 182.08.

before installing,i already uninstalled the previous driver.i even disabled anti virus.then, when i tried to install the new driver,it takes about 5mins to install which is longer than usual.then finally,it says

"The system has not been modified. To install this program at a later time, run the installation again. Click Finish to exit the wizard."

after rebooting my pc, i can use the GPU as if the driver is installed properly.running 3D Mark 06 with ease.

what is the cause of the problem here actually?why it says system has not been modified? cry.gif
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try run some game..and try right click desktop..if got nvida control panel then already lor..just ignore the notice
otherwise reinstall
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try redownload the driver and reinstall again, make sure all old drivers are removed b4 u do that. btw ur sig says Palit Geforce GTX285 1GB DDR2.
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QUOTE(arct @ Mar 8 2009, 01:31 PM)
try redownload the driver and reinstall again, make sure all old drivers are removed b4 u do that. btw ur sig says Palit Geforce GTX285 1GB DDR2.
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redownload??hmm..will do.right away!!

owh sry bout that.typo plak. =.="

btw bro,ur using palit gtx285 also? didnt have any trouble installing the driver is it? how bout OC? care to share a bit? sweat.gif thx..

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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 8 2009, 11:54 AM)
what is your processor?
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Im gonna upgrade my GC to nvidia gefroce 9800 GTx/Gx2... U think my comp can handle it??
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download new fresh installer,uninstall old driver,delete NVIDIA folder C: hard drive also.install the new one,still say system has not been modified lol.right click option on desktop shows nvidia control panel.i'll try run some games now.

btw r1nk, what psu ur using?u at least need 550W psu. try to upgrade ur ram too huhu.

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Where to look my psu..??

And yea planning to upgrade my ram to 2GB too...
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my processor is core2 6300@1.86GHz. gd enuf?
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9800GT suit for u..but ur budget is RM500 right??
i think 9800gtx is the best one..price maybe around that..but make sure u OC your processor a bit la

QUOTE(r1nk @ Mar 8 2009, 02:29 PM)
Windows Version: Windows XP (5.1.2600) Professional
Processor Name: Intel® Celeron® CPU 2.53GHz
Videocard Name: Intel® 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
Installed Memory: 247.48 MB

Im gonna upgrade my GC to nvidia gefroce 9800 GTx/Gx2... U think my comp can handle it??
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9800GX2?..its rare item now..hard to find..
but your processor really weak..should upgrade to E7300/E8400
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so u mean 9800GTX better than GX2??

btw, aiyya dun wan upgrade processor la... Budget only like rm600 only. But will my processor cost any trouble to nvdia GC??
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QUOTE(r1nk @ Mar 8 2009, 03:39 PM)
so u mean 9800GTX better than GX2??

btw, aiyya dun wan upgrade processor la... Budget only like rm600 only. But will my processor cost any trouble to nvdia GC??
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celeron nia..2.5ghz..i forgot..is that dual core??u can wait other forummer help u about processor
nah..i dont mean 9800GTX is better than 9800GX2..9800GX2 is better..but where u want to find it??..last time check at lyp..all shop x da..
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 8 2009, 03:53 PM)
celeron nia..2.5ghz..i forgot..is that dual core??
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'celeron nia...2.5ghz...' Wat that means? Bad? Gud??

btw, its single core... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(r1nk @ Mar 8 2009, 04:02 PM)
'celeron nia...2.5ghz...' Wat that means? Bad? Gud??

btw, its single core... biggrin.gif
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err..not good loh if u want pair it with 9800GTX/9800GX2..lets say bottleneck flex.gif
your graphic card can run 100% but your processor only 1 core@2.5ghz..this will slow down your gaming fps almost 2x
so if u want your gc run at 100% perfomance then u should upgrade your processor nod.gif

with RM600
E5200 =250
Asus 9600GT = RM350(maybe higher)

=RM600 fit wink.gif


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Aiyaa then want to upgrade ram to 2gb and increase my hdd to 90GB... Exceed rm600...e.e

btw, why 'Asus'... not 'nvidia'??
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Asus is the manufacturer.
Nvidia is the one who make the chips ( gpu core ), and sell licenses to manufacturer like asus, gigabyte , evga, xfx, palit ... etc .
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Dun forget the PLUS guyz...hehe..laster got misleading...

9800gtx EOL d...now replace with 9800gtx+..or even better new GTS250.. xD
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QUOTE(efilah @ Mar 8 2009, 01:46 PM)
redownload??hmm..will do.right away!!

owh sry bout that.typo plak. =.="

btw bro,ur using palit gtx285 also? didnt have any trouble installing the driver is it? how bout OC? care to share a bit?  sweat.gif thx..
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haha, i havent even really used the card for a week, im currently in kampar, my rig is in johore. but i dont think i'll oc it yet, the card runs hot for me, i mean, i know 80C is normal for these kinda gpu but its still too hot for me tongue.gif btw my driver works fine for me. (previously i was using 8600gt, which was using the same driver as my gtx285, well i decided to uninstall and reinstall it anyway when i got my 285; what i did was, i uninstall nvidia physx, uninstall nvidia drivers, restart, go safe mode, delete the remaining nvidia folder, uninstall display drivers (in device manager), restart, install the latest drivers, restart)
ah, and oh ya, i didnt even install the bundled software that came with the box, i think its some palit software or something, never really bothered what's inside that cd. biggrin.gif

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ooo u did like that one? icic. i'll do the same thing then later.. i also never use the cd provided lol.
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 8 2009, 03:33 PM)
9800GT suit for u..but ur budget is RM500 right??
i think 9800gtx is the best one..price maybe around that..but make sure u OC your processor a bit la
9800GX2?..its rare item now..hard to find..
but your processor really weak..should upgrade to E7300/E8400
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also should consider your PSU, will it enough to power up 9800GX2, it really Power-Hungry & need a 6-pin & a 8 pin power socket.
correct me if i'm wrong.
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Yay! Finally got my dream card, XFX GTX285 Black Edition, I'm cool now! smile.gif
When I run ATITool to scan for artifacts, the card screeches, any idea why?

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QUOTE(Daltonsama @ Mar 9 2009, 01:02 AM)
Yay! Finally got my dream card, XFX GTX285 Black Edition, I'm cool now! smile.gif
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hallo guys..just bought my palit gtx260..i just simply use it after installing the drivers without tuning the vtune..any instruction how much to set the fan speed, core clock, memory clock, shader clock settings?new comer here brows.gif
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QUOTE(ametzer @ Mar 9 2009, 02:58 AM)
hallo guys..just bought my palit gtx260..i just simply use it after installing the drivers without tuning the vtune..any instruction how much to set the fan speed, core clock, memory clock, shader clock settings?new comer here  brows.gif
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Lol...same with me eh? icon_idea.gif I juz leave it default stock...u can try push GPU and Memory clock till got artifact when tested with ATi tool..or with 3d mark vantage...
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Yay! Finally got my dream card, XFX GTX285 Black Edition, I'm cool now! smile.gif
When I run ATITool to scan for artifacts, the card screeches, any idea why?
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QUOTE(Ozone64 @ Mar 9 2009, 01:25 AM)
also should consider your PSU, will it enough to power up 9800GX2, it really Power-Hungry & need a 6-pin & a 8 pin power socket.
correct me if i'm wrong.
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they run a bit hot under load.
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QUOTE(overclockalbert @ Mar 9 2009, 03:33 AM)
yes, need 6pin + 8pin socket for additional power
they run a bit hot under load.
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 9 2009, 03:11 AM)
Lol...same with me eh?  icon_idea.gif I juz leave it default stock...u can try push GPU and Memory clock till got artifact when tested with ATi tool..or with 3d mark vantage...
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actually, the default setting is ad enuff..if i just use the setting without tuning wont be a problem aite?... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(ametzer @ Mar 9 2009, 05:33 AM)
actually, the default setting is ad enuff..if i just use the setting without tuning wont be a problem aite?...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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of course its ok.it even runs more stable using stock speed (and longer life time). nod.gif
but if u really wanna use every bit of juice ur gtx260 has to offer,then feel free to OC. flex.gif hoho.
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yep.

btw, which one is more feasible:
-buy 1 gtx285, later when newer card came out, buy another gtx285 and sli.

or

-buy 1 gtx285, later when newer card came out, buy the newer card and sell the old gtx285.

what i meant here is, i maybe just going to play using a 22inch screen. if i want the top notch performance with the best value, should i go for option 1 where usually after newer card arrived, the older card price gonna decrease rite? but i wonder if im going to upgrade further [no trisli], howthe price of the 2 gtx285 when im gonna sell em [lets say after 3 years?]?
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should i go for option 2. dont have to buy new psu, cooler interior, lesser gtx285 price degradation, and i more pcie slot for something else.
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haha, looks like option 2 not so RUMIT comparing with option 1. unless u alrdy hav mobo, and psu prepared for sli tech..hehe


p/s: should at least try for SLi, its not like having more greater performance or high end gc.its unique structure inside ur chassis. with multiple cards, cool ah..

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Yup that's right. It's a great experience to try multi gpu solution. But if u r not interested in the 1st place, then option 2 is better.
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576Mhz gtx 260 and a factory pre-oc gtx 260, which one has the longer life time?? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 9 2009, 02:58 AM)
if im not mistaken...660 real power PSU needed rite?  hmm.gif
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Any 650W ABove PSU true power one can support 9800GX2
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No one knows why my card is making an awful lot of noise?
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@daltonsama - it's probably coming from chokes on the gpu pcb
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QUOTE(Daltonsama @ Mar 9 2009, 01:49 PM)
No one knows why my card is making an awful lot of noise?
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lol, i didnt know ferrite chokes could make screeching sound, when i go back i'll try to listen if my mobo would make screech sounds too or not since my mobo has a few of them. btw, could it be your fan spinning up when u stress/game on it?

added: at first i thought my card was noisy too but turns out its my cpu pull-fan which spins up cuz its connected to my mobo pwm connector. (nb is very near to gpu so its affected by the gpu temp too!)

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Any way to prevent chokes?
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oops, u mean ferrite choke.

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QUOTE(Daltonsama @ Mar 9 2009, 02:49 PM)
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what is your power supply ?
isit the card making very high pitch noise ? last time my grafik kad also like that, after my friend tell me to plug
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hi brother,
what is your power supply ?
isit the card making very high pitch noise ?  last time my grafik kad also like that, after my friend tell me to plug
the power plug then the pitch gone  blush.gif
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what do you mean by "plug the power plug"? you mean b4 that ur power plug is unplugged? blink.gif

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what do you mean by "plug the power plug"? you mean b4 that ur power plug is unplugged?  blink.gif
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the 6pin to the grafik kad >.<
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aiya,u didnt plug the powe cable?? lol how can it makes that noise?bcoz lack of power?  doh.gif
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Hey, using Corsair TX650. I have both the 6 pin plugs plugged in, could it be it's not firmly fixed in?
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QUOTE(Daltonsama @ Mar 9 2009, 11:36 PM)
Hey, using Corsair TX650. I have both the 6 pin plugs plugged in, could it be it's not firmly fixed in?
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of course its ok.it even runs more stable using stock speed (and longer life time). nod.gif
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Incoming Price drop on GTX260 : http://forums.vr-zone.com/news-around-the-...rop-gtx260.html thumbup.gif
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so new GTX260 is 199 U.S. dollars = RM739 right??correct me if im wrong
damn cheap..last time bought 1k+ vmad.gif
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 10 2009, 08:15 AM)
aiya i want price drop 4 the GTX285 wey laugh.gif

QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 10 2009, 09:33 AM)
so new GTX260 is 199 U.S. dollars = RM739 right??correct me if im wrong
damn cheap..last time bought 1k+ vmad.gif
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then tomorrow kluar bru...turun hrga lg...
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 10 2009, 09:33 AM)
so new GTX260 is 199 U.S. dollars = RM739 right??correct me if im wrong
damn cheap..last time bought 1k+ vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 10 2009, 09:33 AM)
so new GTX260 is 199 U.S. dollars = RM739 right??correct me if im wrong
damn cheap..last time bought 1k+ vmad.gif
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like this i better save up for my motor lor tongue.gif
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yawn.gif new technologies are released often
my e8200 cost RM600+ last year, but now...extinct aredi doh.gif
later gtx 260 mayb cost RM500+ only
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When GTX260 can drop price until 5xx each ...then i also will change my 9800GX2 to GTX260 SLI LOL
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laugh.gif i can even try triple gtx260 SLi that time
i think probably around year 2010 tongue.gif
mayb gtx 260 will become another 8800gt biggrin.gif ideal combo of power,performance & price

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by that time GTX360, GTX380 or GTX395 will be roaming freely in the wild smile.gif

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GTX 560 or GTX 1000 also not point if nvidia cannot solve the micro suttering problem...
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huhuh just bought gtx260 for 900..aiyakk
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i have procured a cooler master 500 watt extreme psu....can it take a 9800gtx+?
im planning to get an intel e6xxx proc and a p35 base board.


can my psu take all of it?
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 10 2009, 09:07 PM)
i have procured a cooler master 500 watt extreme psu....can it take a 9800gtx+?
im planning to get an intel e6xxx proc and a p35 base board.
can my psu take all of it?
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assumes that 500W gives 75% of efficiency , and assume that 9800GTX+ take 280W during peak ,
most you can give the psu load 80% of it , so 400W supply with 75% efficiency , only 300W.
I think you should buy a better power supply like Silver Stone Strider ST56F , erm... CM Real Power better than extreme power series.
just my assumption. if anything wrong please correct ya icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 10 2009, 08:07 PM)
i have procured a cooler master 500 watt extreme psu....can it take a 9800gtx+?
im planning to get an intel e6xxx proc and a p35 base board.
can my psu take all of it?
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Why dont you try the PSU voltage Calculator.

http://web.aanet.com.au/SnooP/psucalc.php

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 10 2009, 08:07 PM)
i have procured a cooler master 500 watt extreme psu....can it take a 9800gtx+?
im planning to get an intel e6xxx proc and a p35 base board.
can my psu take all of it?
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yup...sure u can...my fren use 9800gtx+ AMP! Edition...which OCed Version...and AMD Phenom X4...Can run without problem...


b4 tiz my CM460w Extreme power + also can support 9800GTX+.... laugh.gif
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GTX 560 or  GTX 1000 also not point if nvidia cannot solve the micro suttering problem...
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the micro suttering does happen on Ati dual-cores card ? like HD4870X2 ?
mind to tell ? blush.gif
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QUOTE(C.Josephine @ Mar 11 2009, 06:02 AM)
the micro suttering does happen on Ati dual-cores card ? like HD4870X2 ?
mind to tell ?  blush.gif
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Depends on games. Microstuttering almost doesn't exist for games above 70fps.
Most monitors comes with a refresh rate of 60 or 70Hz, meaning u would need 70 or 80fps to eliminate microstuttering
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No matter how high your FPS still got micro stuttering on Nvidia 9800GX2 and GTX295.

on 3D Mark 06 the flying ship chasing by Dragon..when the Dragon jumping cross the airship part the micro suttering is most high for me..even the FPS i got is 1xx above also feel the sudden stop for 1 sec
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When u play games do u get micro stuttering? I doubt u do.
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No matter how high your FPS still got micro stuttering on Nvidia 9800GX2 and GTX295.

on 3D Mark 06 the flying ship chasing by Dragon..when the Dragon jumping cross the airship part the micro suttering is most high for me..even the FPS i got is 1xx above also feel the sudden stop for 1 sec
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meaning 260 is ok? im planning to buy palit gtx260 sonic 216sp. recommended??
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single gpu graphic cards are always recommend biggrin.gif
palit gtx 260 is good smile.gif
mind to state ur rigs so that ppl can recommend u the best gc that suit ur pc
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 11 2009, 04:52 PM)
single gpu graphic cards are always recommend biggrin.gif
palit gtx 260 is good smile.gif
mind to state ur rigs so that ppl can recommend u the best gc that suit ur pc
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bro i actually wanna buy a new pc. so im choosing a good gc first then only see whats other parts that suit my little baby
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Just go for GTX260 Palit Sonic.

Dual fan + Awesome insanity.

Not to mention highly OC-able.
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thanks guys.. im quite new to gcs. i have a question here. on another thread i saw ppl saying single gpu is better than SLI? what does it mean? isnt it SLI is just for u to add-on another same card that u already have? so is this 260 single gpu? i hope someone generous can it explain to me.
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gtx 260 is single gpu graphic card
SLI definitely has better performance than single gc
but SLI or Crossfire has micro stuttering problems (google it for more info)
that's why ppl said tat singple gpu is better
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 11 2009, 05:42 PM)
gtx 260 is single gpu graphic card
SLI definitely has better performance than single gc
but SLI or Crossfire has micro stuttering problems (google it for more info)
that's why ppl said tat singple gpu is better
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so bro. meaning using one gtx260 which is a single gpu doesnt have any micro stuttering problem right?
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Micro stuttering happen because using dual GC, using one GC of course, won't cause this problem.

Read here for more information
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thanks kimono38-chan
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just go for GTX260..but i dont recommend gtx285..perfomance just about 15%-20% more..not worth it for money
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15-20% more,but it will give u more advantage when AA is enabled.
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i hope gtx260 can let me last for years. and incoming games like diablo and stracraft!!
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sure can last.till next year at least unless more demanding games like crysis suddenly pop out
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i dont play those games.. categorized as shooting games? i get dizzy and feel wanna puke very easily playing those games. just wan my graphic to run smooth on some 3d online games/diablo/starcraft
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zzzz.... micro stuttering is over rated...

it's almost unnoticable when u r playing most games. newer drivers are constantly minimizing the suttering. as long as the games u play is above 60fps (or more than your monitor's refresh rate) then u won't notice a thing.

microstuttering also depends on whether if it's dual, tri or quad configuration.
quad being the worst, and really cannot get away with it.

there are reviews saying that dual is the minimally being noticed, whereas another review said that Tri config is the least noticable.
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QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Mar 11 2009, 05:28 PM)
Just go for GTX260 Palit Sonic.

Dual fan + Awesome insanity.

Not to mention highly OC-able.
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Im not sure tat correct or not....but tested by Ace Combat...where he posted at the first page in this thread...

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Mar 2 2009, 05:45 PM)
55nm GTX260 Sonic Dual Fan oc to 710mhz BSOD
65nm GTX260 Stock fan oc to 740mhz and still going smile.gif
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but,going to Palit Sonic GTX260 is really a gud choice....not only u got better cooler, but an OCed version card... rclxms.gif
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Here are some pictures of the XFX GTX285 Black Edition, sorry took so long something wrong with my hand phone, sorry for low quality pix as well. tongue.gif
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New game H.A.W.X game Review by Guru3d.com....

From the review..and quote from Guru3d...

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Why isn't the GeForce GTX 295 on top you ask ? Well even with a internal Beta driver supplied by NVIDIA, the second GPU on the GTX 295 would not kick in, despite that driver being SLI ready. So the GTX 295 is reverting to 1 GPU performance only. And that's pretty much showing GeForce GTX 260 performance. Make no mistake, once an updated driver is released .. the GTX 295 will trump the charts. We'll update when that happens.
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btw,glad to see GTX260 216sp pawn HD4870 1gb even little tiny dupy different... sweat.gif sweat.gif and look at GTX285...even with single GPU,still can almost catch up 4870 2x dual GPU....which mention by Guru3d,driver bug problem...normal... laugh.gif

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HAIL NVIDIA!!!! im a spammer biggrin.gif
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GTX295 != 2x GTX260 216.

One GTX295 core is between GTX260 and 280. Just to give info.

GTX285 almost beating 4870x2? Only on one resolution though.
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QUOTE(Slow! @ Mar 12 2009, 01:32 PM)
HAIL NVIDIA!!!! im a spammer biggrin.gif
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Yes you are. Shall we let the moderators know about it too? smile.gif

Btw guys, brace yourself for GTX 275!!!
http://www.techpowerup.com/87746/NVIDIA_Pr..._in_Sights.html
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can we see it in PC Fair??
kinda cool...
hope the price is reasonable toooo...
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Since gtx 275 is for counter attacking hd4890 and 4890 is set to release in april, guess gtx 275 will either be released in end of april or may. But then again i could be wrong. What really attracts me is the price! drool.gif
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GTX 275?performance between 260 and 285? hmm.gif .hows the price?
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yeah!! for me i will choose the card with best value with the performance
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QUOTE(Daltonsama @ Mar 11 2009, 10:21 PM)
@Kidz1995
Here are some pictures of the XFX GTX285 Black Edition, sorry took so long something wrong with my hand phone, sorry for low quality pix as well.  tongue.gif
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cool..XFX card in Storm sniper !!CM FTW brows.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 12 2009, 12:04 AM)
btw,glad to see GTX260 216sp pawn HD4870 1gb even little tiny dupy different... sweat.gif  sweat.gif 
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Of course tongue.gif
Turn on the DX10.1 features and see the HD4870 score flies
QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 12 2009, 12:04 AM)
and look at GTX285...even with single GPU,still can almost catch up 4870 2x dual GPU....which mention by Guru3d,driver bug problem...normal... laugh.gif
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That is multi-gpu common problem, lack of game's profile smile.gif
and as far as i know, current ATI catalyst/NVIDIA forceware do not have HAWX profile yet sweat.gif
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Of course tongue.gif
Turn on the DX10.1 features and see the HD4870 score flies

That is multi-gpu common problem, lack of game's profile smile.gif
and as far as i know, current ATI catalyst/NVIDIA forceware do not have HAWX profile yet sweat.gif
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lawl lame..DX10.1 is not that cool whistling.gif
GTX260 is better than 4870 thoo icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Mar 12 2009, 01:37 PM)
GTX295 != 2x GTX260 216.

One GTX295 core is between GTX260 and 280. Just to give info.

GTX285 almost beating 4870x2? Only on one resolution though.
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Yup,on 1920x1080 where the most Full HD lcd user use..what u expect from 1 GPU power? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kidz1995 @ Mar 12 2009, 04:51 PM)
lawl lame..DX10.1 is not that cool  whistling.gif
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dx10.1 got very big improvement o. try googling for the info. they have graphics comparison for x9 and x10
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Dx10.1? Meh , marketing gimmick.. smile.gif
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10.1 = 10
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hie guys i dont anyone of u encounter this prob...or discuss in previous thread....

im using nVidia 9800 GC connected via HDMI cable --> 32" lcd but the text is distorted...google many source but it lead to nVidia problem...downloaded the latest patch also no luck.

Maybe u guys can share with me how u solve this distorted text problem.

Thanks alot..
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 12 2009, 10:15 PM)
Dx10.1? Meh , marketing gimmick.. smile.gif
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Downloading the latest driver sometimes is not the solution. Try older ones as well. They might work fine. Thats all I can help as I never tried on a 32 inch tongue.gif
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I'm buying 2nd 9600GT for SLi last week, I surveyed every single 9600GT available at LYP and I stunned by:

1) There are no more reference PCB and cooler anymore (maybe XFX uses them but the box is sealed so they won't allow me to see them)
2) One card, Palit 9600GT costing RM340 at PC Zone doesn't come with any power connector, as small as HD46XX cards but it don't have SLi connector. This is a good contender to HD4670

In the end I buy Galaxy 9600GT as it matches closely to reference 9600GT and it uses Samsung memory. It runs great, despite different BIOS and PCB, in fact I can run Crysis maxed at 1280x1024
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more info regarding of the upcoming GTX 275 smile.gif

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...=12565&Itemid=1
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Seems like 275 will be an uprated version of the 260. And I'm just about to get the 260 sigh =(
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 12 2009, 10:18 PM)
10.1 = 10
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Mar 13 2009, 02:21 AM)
I'm buying 2nd 9600GT for SLi last week, I surveyed every single 9600GT available at LYP and I stunned by:

1) There are no more reference PCB and cooler anymore (maybe XFX uses them but the box is sealed so they won't allow me to see them)
2) One card, Palit 9600GT costing RM340 at PC Zone doesn't come with any power connector, as small as HD46XX cards but it don't have SLi connector. This is a good contender to HD4670

In the end I buy Galaxy 9600GT as it matches closely to reference 9600GT and it uses Samsung memory. It runs great, despite different BIOS and PCB, in fact I can run Crysis maxed at 1280x1024
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 12 2009, 10:18 PM)
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1 = 2? Bravo

Technically 10.1 and 10 are different. But visually, well... It's hard to tell
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GTX260 216SP released is to pawned 4870.... because GTX260 216SP predecessor which mean 192SP fail to pawned 4870 that's y this 216SP released in time....
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hi guys
i just bought crysis and installed in my pc
after tat, i downloaded the 1.2 patch
whenever i try to run the patch, problems occur
"An error occured installing the package. Windows Installer return '1642'
i google the net and cannot find the actual solution
is it nvidia driver problem or patch error??
pls help me!
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hi bros, wanna ask can a 8800gts serve me well in high end game such as crysis, COD? is a 2 year plus gc already rite? wanna buy a 2nd hand 1 at garage sale....

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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 13 2009, 11:09 AM)
hi guys
i just bought crysis and installed in my pc
after tat, i downloaded the 1.2 patch
whenever i try to run the patch, problems occur
"An error occured installing the package. Windows Installer return '1642'
i google the net and cannot find the actual solution
is it nvidia driver problem or patch error??
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I believe i had this problem last time. Try downloading another version of the patch from another source. Tho I can't remember exactly how I solved mine tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 13 2009, 11:28 AM)
I believe i had this problem last time. Try downloading another version of the patch from another source. Tho I can't remember exactly how I solved mine tongue.gif
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U did? I thought that it's bcoz we are using the, you know... *ahem* version. So that's y it doesnt wanna install

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erm... sweat.gif actually i havent install game yet
i just tried to run the patch to ensure it is not corrupt
anyone here has other solution?
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 13 2009, 11:53 AM)
erm... sweat.gif actually i havent install game yet
i just tried to run the patch to ensure it is not corrupt
anyone here has other solution?
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now at workplace tongue.gif
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 13 2009, 11:45 AM)
U did? I thought that it's bcoz we are using the, you know... *ahem* version. So that's y it doesnt wanna install
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 13 2009, 11:06 AM)
1 = 2? Bravo

Technically 10.1 and 10 are different. But visually, well... It's hard to tell
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 13 2009, 12:07 PM)
so u see your games with its technical side or visually? dont tell me you are special species
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bro rather than giving a blanket statement like u did, it's better to clarify or elaborate what u said. otherwise u will cause flaming in the thread or ppl will think that ur just ignorant. just my word of advice la sweat.gif
but yes, u r right. when it comes to visual, there is well... hardly any difference


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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 13 2009, 12:07 PM)
ahaha. that might be a possibility as well tongue.gif
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bro u got the ori version?

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bro u got the ori version?
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 13 2009, 12:27 PM)
bro rather than giving a blanket statement like u did, it's better to clarify or elaborate what u said. otherwise u will cause flaming in the thread or ppl will think that ur just ignorant. just my word of advice la sweat.gif
but yes, u r right. when it comes to visual, there is well... hardly any difference
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 13 2009, 12:41 PM)
hahha. nope. was planning to get an ori one for warhead, cuz i really wanna play the multiplayer. but my pc is down now.so i put it on hold first.
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ok. so u sure u managed to install the patch for crysis? hope u can remember how u did it. I'm having problem with the warhead at the moment. same error 1642 message.

btw, i'm sure i got the warhead patch, not crysis war patch.
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 13 2009, 12:44 PM)
ok. so u sure u managed to install the patch for crysis? hope u can remember how u did it. I'm having problem with the warhead at the moment. same error 1642 message.

btw, i'm sure i got the warhead patch, not crysis war patch.
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 13 2009, 11:09 AM)
hi guys
i just bought crysis and installed in my pc
after tat, i downloaded the 1.2 patch
whenever i try to run the patch, problems occur
"An error occured installing the package. Windows Installer return '1642'
i google the net and cannot find the actual solution
is it nvidia driver problem or patch error??
pls help me!
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jz use crysis 1.1 ,not much improvements from the patch.jz patch if u wan to join multiplayer games
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Mar 12 2009, 10:15 PM)
Dx10.1? Meh , marketing gimmick.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 13 2009, 01:02 AM)
Second tat.... doh.gif  same like Nvidia PhysX but more worse....  doh.gif
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Humm, iv tried both DX10.1 and PhysX.

My opinion on (based on experience)
i) PhysX
Pros
- The added cosmetic on game really is cool, makes the game runs beautifully wub.gif (tested on Mirror's Edge)
Cons
- PhysX tends to crash randomly on single gpu (and FPS inconsistency) . You need one dedicated card (dedicated PhysX's rendering) to make the crashes gone.


i) DirectX 10.1
Pros
- Better IQ and runs >20% faster than DX10 when Anti-Aliasing is on (tested on Assassin Creed, Stalker Clear Sky, Tom Clancy's HAWX demo)
Cons
- DX10.1 performance isn't enough to takeover DX9 legacy.

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 13 2009, 04:54 PM)
Humm, iv tried both DX10.1 and PhysX.

My opinion on (based on experience)
i) PhysX
Pros
- The added cosmetic on game really is cool, makes the game runs beautifully wub.gif (tested on Mirror's Edge)
Cons
- PhysX tends to crash randomly on single gpu (and FPS inconsistency) . You need one dedicated card (dedicated PhysX's rendering) to make the crashes gone.
i) DirectX 10.1
Pros
- Better IQ and runs >20% faster than DX10 when Anti-Aliasing is on (tested on Assassin Creed, Stalker Clear Sky, Tom Clancy's HAWX demo)
Cons
- DX10.1 performance isn't enough to takeover DX9 legacy.
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bro u can use a higher card for PhysX. and why talk about legacy? the fact is that dx10 smoothen and make the graphic more realistic compared to dx9 isnt it?

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 13 2009, 05:36 PM)
who ask u to use PhysX with a card that doesnt support it? and why talk about legacy? the fact is that dx10 smoothen and make the graphic more realistic compared to dx9 isnt it?
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erm... bro... I think pikacu mean that he had used nvidia GC before... ATI will run phyx but at a very very low FPS, coz the calculation will be all done in CPU if it is turned on.
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QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 13 2009, 05:40 PM)
erm... bro... I think pikacu mean that he had used nvidia GC before... ATI will run phyx but at a very very low FPS, coz the calculation will be all done in CPU if it is turned on.
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i edited my post lo. lolz
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 13 2009, 05:42 PM)
i edited my post lo. lolz
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lol split second change eh. hehe

I would personally describe the change of DX in such way...

DX9 to DX10 = Good improvement
DX8 to DX9 = Revolutionary

Just my 2Cents smile.gif
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 13 2009, 05:36 PM)
who ask u to use PhysX with a card that doesnt support it? and why talk about legacy? the fact is that dx10 smoothen and make the graphic more realistic compared to dx9 isnt it?
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dude? I use 8800GT to test it doh.gif

And ..a well-optimized DX9 have almost the same image quality and performs faster compared to DX10/DX10.1

QUOTE(metsatsu @ Mar 13 2009, 05:40 PM)
erm... bro... I think pikacu mean that he had used nvidia GC before... ATI will run phyx but at a very very low FPS, coz the calculation will be all done in CPU if it is turned on.
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 13 2009, 04:54 PM)
Humm, iv tried both DX10.1 and PhysX.

My opinion on (based on experience)
i) PhysX
Pros
- The added cosmetic on game really is cool, makes the game runs beautifully wub.gif (tested on Mirror's Edge)
Cons
- PhysX tends to crash randomly on single gpu (and FPS inconsistency) . You need one dedicated card (dedicated PhysX's rendering) to make the crashes gone.
i) DirectX 10.1
Pros
- Better IQ and runs >20% faster than DX10 when Anti-Aliasing is on (tested on Assassin Creed, Stalker Clear Sky, Tom Clancy's HAWX demo)
Cons
- DX10.1 performance isn't enough to takeover DX9 legacy.
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Strange...I never encountered tat when playing my Mirror Edge with my GTX260+..... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 13 2009, 07:30 PM)
Strange...I never encountered tat when playing my Mirror Edge with my GTX260+..... hmm.gif
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do you play about 1~3 hours non-stop, and do you monitor your FPS during gameplay?

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bcoz gtx260+ is a decent/dedicated card
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do you play about 1~3 hours non-stop?
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Erm..i played it above 1 hour non stop...cannot stand till 2 hours +...dizzy already..... laugh.gif
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dude? I use 8800GT to test it doh.gif

And ..a well-optimized DX9 have almost the same image quality and performs faster compared to DX10/DX10.1
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bro i already edited my post la. i ask u to use a better card since u said 'u nid a better card' for physx
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No wonder i never face the crash...

Update the Nvidia + PhysX driver...crash solved... laugh.gif

http://on-mirrors-edge.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2631

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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 13 2009, 07:35 PM)
Erm..i played it above 1 hour non stop...cannot stand till 2 hours +...dizzy already..... laugh.gif
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haha, need to get used to it.


QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 13 2009, 07:36 PM)
bro i already edited my post la. i ask u to use a better card since u said 'u nid a better card' for physx
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update unconfirmed
gtx275 specs looks like a overclocked version of gtx260.
no of processors etc same.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 13 2009, 11:48 PM)
update unconfirmed
gtx275 specs looks like a overclocked version of gtx260.
no of processors etc same.
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Same chip with gtx295, one of the gpus.
Core 650mhz, mem 1100mHz
10% faster than gtx260
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 13 2009, 11:48 PM)
update unconfirmed
gtx275 specs looks like a overclocked version of gtx260.
no of processors etc same.
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confirmed or unconfirmed?

according to fudzilla, they said it will be just like a single chip GTX 295.

in other words GTX275 X 2 = GTX295 smile.gif rclxm9.gif
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nope
unconfirmed but better source than fudzilla

its going to be a overclocked version of gtx260

the gtx295 used a underclocked version of gtx285.
and suggestion of underclocked version of gtx275 is false at this point.
because if what u say is true than its a gtx280 55nm

something like 9800gtx+ vs 9800gtx first round both was 65nm

so again gtx275 is just a overclocked version of gtx260 at the same voltage 1.15
they are doing better yields now on speed binning

hopefully this better binned chips can overclock even higher.. that means out preform a gtx280

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Er sorry for being a newbie in GPU . I understand that ATI cards have been the best bang of bucks lately but I'm well aware of the compatibility issue of ATI card on old games like StarCraft and etc which the ATI driver often fks up the pixel.

Which is why I would like to know is there any nvdia cards in the market atm which still worth getting compared to a 4870?
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QUOTE(Ash @ Mar 14 2009, 12:58 AM)
Er sorry for being a newbie in GPU . I understand that ATI cards have been the best bang of bucks lately but I'm well aware of the compatibility issue of ATI card on old games like StarCraft and etc which the ATI driver often fks up the pixel.

Which is why I would like to know is there any nvdia cards in the market atm which still worth getting compared to a 4870?
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gtx260
especially when u overclock it.

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GTX260+ is the best buck compare to 4870 smile.gif
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Would you still say it's worth getting if ATI price slash happens on a 4870 and say compare a GTX260 to a RM600 ++ ATI 4870?

Oh yea btw the price of GTX260 is still around RM1000(Lowyat price list), why do I see forumers mentioning about buying a GTX260 for RM700?

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check @ garage sales.u can get a palit gtx260 sonic,oc version with custom cooler for RM900 or a stock palit gtx260 for rm800 or lower

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halo..do gigabyte odin 550w can handle 9800gtx+?..kinda noob here..hehe
btw..im using e7200,2x500GB and 3x12cm fan..

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halo..do gigabyte odin 550w can handle 9800gtx+?..kinda noob here..hehe
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oledi edit last post..+ 1xdvd burner..
owhh..can ya..fuhh lega.. sweat.gif
not need to upgrade my psu..hehe
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QUOTE(twisties @ Mar 14 2009, 02:24 AM)
oledi edit last post..+ 1xdvd burner..
owhh..can ya..fuhh lega.. sweat.gif
not need to upgrade my psu..hehe
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Should be any prob with ur ODIN smile.gif go for it
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hehe..thx for the information.. icon_rolleyes.gif
cant wait to get my new 9800gtx+..hehe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 14 2009, 12:17 AM)
nope
unconfirmed but better source than fudzilla

its going to be a overclocked version of gtx260

the gtx295 used a underclocked version of gtx285.
and suggestion of underclocked version of gtx275 is false at this point.
because if what u say is true than its a gtx280 55nm

something like 9800gtx+ vs 9800gtx first round both was 65nm

so again gtx275 is just a overclocked version of gtx260 at the same voltage 1.15
they are doing better yields now on speed binning

hopefully this better binned chips can overclock even higher.. that means out preform a gtx280
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so that means that this so called GTX275, will have 216SP but only better binned chip with higher OC?
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Mar 14 2009, 03:27 AM)
y not GTS250 fren?
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not enuf bajet laa..hehe biggrin.gif
gts250 is still new n pricey..
can share with me the advantage of gts250 compared to 9800gtx+?
btw..i got a good offer from forumer batmanstore..he sell xfx gc with a good price.. brows.gif
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i'm planning to change to green camp and I'm planning to buy GTX260. So which one is better. Palit (OCed version) or Gainward Golden sample. Any other suggestion?

BTW, my budget is RM900. Thanks
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For me, I choose Palit OC version, Overclock on the fly!
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i'm planning to change to green camp and I'm planning to buy GTX260. So which one is better. Palit (OCed version) or Gainward Golden sample. Any other suggestion?

BTW, my budget is RM900. Thanks
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QUOTE(hawkl @ Mar 14 2009, 10:51 AM)
I suggest Golden Sample.... normally OC version GC u can't OC somemore.
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QUOTE(twisties @ Mar 14 2009, 10:14 AM)
not enuf bajet laa..hehe biggrin.gif
gts250 is still new n pricey..
can share with me the advantage of gts250 compared to 9800gtx+?
btw..i got a good offer from forumer batmanstore..he sell xfx gc with a good price.. brows.gif
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The difference is just around RM20 nod.gif
Comparison here: http://www.goldfries.com/computing/nvidia-...nother-9800gtx/

Always use google
http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&q=gt...nG=Search&meta=

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QUOTE(hawkl @ Mar 14 2009, 10:51 AM)
I suggest Golden Sample.... normally OC version GC u can't OC somemore.
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 14 2009, 10:53 AM)
Depends on the chip and cooling dude.


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The difference is just around RM20  nod.gif
Comparison here: http://www.goldfries.com/computing/nvidia-...nother-9800gtx/

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Mar 14 2009, 10:34 AM)
i'm planning to change to green camp and I'm planning to buy GTX260. So which one is better. Palit (OCed version) or Gainward Golden sample. Any other suggestion?

BTW, my budget is RM900. Thanks
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if i remember correctly, both gtx260 are pre-overclock at core clock 625Mhz
since u have RM900, i recommend palit (RM909), pm Cex/boonykun
Gainward gtx260 GS cost RM930 in PCzone
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still no luck with the nVidia latest patch...
my text still looks distorted under HDMI outoup --> Lcd.

Anyone using nVidia card link to lcd tv?
how u guys solve this prob?

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if i remember correctly, both gtx260 are pre-overclock at core clock 625Mhz
since u have RM900, i recommend palit (RM909), pm Cex/boonykun
Gainward gtx260 GS cost RM930 in PCzone
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bro u never update yourself with their prices? its only rm849 now
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guys i think i off for nVidia graphic card coz whenever i connect it with HDMI to LCD my text distorted.....

so sad brand new 9800 GTX + DK cannot use even updated the new patches or driveers.....

think im going to change my GC to ATi...


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bro u never update yourself with their prices? its only rm849 now
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updated prices for gainward gtx260 & palit gtx 260 sonic ( in PCzone)
gainward-RM899
Palit-RM930
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eh?? u said Cex/boonykun leh.. his price is rm849 for palit gtx260 sonic

source ----> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/933387

and of coz the price at lowyat plaze will be abit more priced

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 14 2009, 05:05 PM)
guys i think i off for nVidia graphic card coz whenever i connect it with HDMI to LCD my text distorted.....

so sad brand new 9800 GTX + DK cannot use even updated the new patches or driveers.....

think im going to change my GC to ATi...
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Are you sure an ati card will work?
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 14 2009, 05:05 PM)
guys i think i off for nVidia graphic card coz whenever i connect it with HDMI to LCD my text distorted.....

so sad brand new 9800 GTX + DK cannot use even updated the new patches or driveers.....

think im going to change my GC to ATi...
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Uninstall the current driver. Remove any remaining files/registry using Driver Cleaner Pro.
Reinstall driver and see how.

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gtx285 compare with gtx 280 who better? with the value with performance sure gtx285
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QUOTE(teamloks @ Mar 14 2009, 08:02 PM)
gtx285 compare with gtx 280  who better? with  the value  with performance sure gtx285
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hmm.gif sweat.gif doh.gif
ask or answer? tanjung rambutan?
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Changing stock cooler means voiding warranty?
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Gainward/Palit don't allow, look at the warranty stickers at the back of their cards. doh.gif

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Galaxy Non-reference GTX260 VGA Card With 1792MB Memory
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Are you sure an ati card will work?
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Uninstall the current driver. Remove any remaining files/registry using Driver Cleaner Pro.
Reinstall driver and see how.


Im not sure whether ATi will work for this part...but since goggling for many days..it seems end of the day it brought up the issue by nVidia Driver....for title of "HDMI" distorted

Cant seems to find the word ATi for this issue "hope im right about it"
Even i asked around at Audiophile/LCD Thread/HTPC thread..no one give an answer... cry.gif

Im out of ideas....latest driver...good graphic card im assume sweat.gif
But i'm curious, y does the manufacturer printed the box with HDCP and HDMI supported..whereas this HDMI distorted issue is been awhile form 2008 (from nVidia forum and other article) wink.gif


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by any change u know where to get that?
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 14 2009, 09:45 PM)
Im not sure whether ATi will work for this part...but since goggling for many days..it seems end of the day it brought up the issue by nVidia Driver....for title of "HDMI" distorted

Cant seems to find the word ATi for this issue "hope im right about it"
Even i asked around at Audiophile/LCD Thread/HTPC thread..no one give an answer... cry.gif

Im out of ideas....latest driver...good graphic card im assume  sweat.gif
But i'm curious, y does the manufacturer printed the box with HDCP and HDMI supported..whereas this HDMI distorted issue is been awhile form 2008 (from nVidia forum and other article) wink.gif
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your LCD tv model please.
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gtx285 compare with gtx 280  who better? with  the value  with performance sure gtx285
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lolz.. all of the sudden come out to ask question and answer on his own. haha i guess blind ppl also know gtx285 better bcoz of 1GB speed
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lolz.. all of the sudden come out to ask question and answer on his own. haha i guess blind ppl also know gtx285 better bcoz of 1GB speed
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>_>

the speed is not 1gb, its the memory size


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your LCD tv model please.
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it might not be the gfx. might be the tv.

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 14 2009, 09:45 PM)
lolz.. all of the sudden come out to ask question and answer on his own. haha i guess blind ppl also know gtx285 better bcoz of 1GB speed
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1GB speed??
Memory Speed 1GB i think?? wacko.gif
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 14 2009, 10:51 PM)
>_>

the speed is not 1gb, its the memory size


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it might not be the gfx. might be the tv.
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tell me, LCD TV not compatible with gpu icon_idea.gif
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lolz.. all of the sudden come out to ask question and answer on his own. haha i guess blind ppl also know gtx285 better bcoz of 1GB speed
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i dont think 1gb memory will give big effect compared to 512mb..am i right?? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(law1777 @ Mar 14 2009, 09:45 PM)
lolz.. all of the sudden come out to ask question and answer on his own. haha i guess blind ppl also know gtx285 better bcoz of 1GB speed
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lolz.. gtx285 is almost like an oced edition of gtx280, the same 1gb ram (not speed=mhz)

QUOTE(twisties @ Mar 14 2009, 10:07 PM)
i dont think 1gb memory will give big effect compared to 512mb..am i right?? laugh.gif
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1gb gives smoother gaming on high resolution screen ie. 1920x1200.
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512mb will be suit for 17 - 22 inch LCD Monitor
896mb - 1.76G will be suit for 24 - 30 inch LCD Monitor
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The GTX285 is an improved version of the 280. Architecturally the same, only difference is the the processor unit. The 280 had the old 65nm chip while the 285 has the new 55nm chip. This new fabrication allows for lower power consumption and allows the card to be clocked at a higher speed. =D
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i dont think 1gb memory will give big effect compared to 512mb..am i right?? laugh.gif
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if no big effect whats the extra 512mb for?
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3rd party coolers look promising but i've read that some still claim stock reference is better since it exhaust hot air out of the case instead. btw im refering to the dual slot nvidia reference cooler. can anyone share their experience on this? let's say, like gtx285 reference cooler compared to the AC accelero extreme 280? thankyou thankyou!
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 14 2009, 11:36 PM)
The GTX285 is an improved version of the 280. Architecturally the same, only difference is the the processor unit. The 280 had the old 65nm chip while the 285 has the new 55nm chip. This new fabrication allows for lower power consumption and allows the card to be clocked at a higher speed. =D
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IIRC , GTX280 using 8+6 pin pci-e power slot while GTX285 using 6+6 only rclxms.gif
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IIRC , GTX280 using 8+6 pin pci-e power slot while GTX285 using 6+6 only  rclxms.gif
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Yup, you are right.
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3rd party coolers look promising but i've read that some still claim stock reference is better since it exhaust hot air out of the case instead. btw im refering to the dual slot nvidia reference cooler. can anyone share their experience on this? let's say, like gtx285 reference cooler compared to the AC accelero extreme 280? thankyou thankyou!
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I grab this chart from AceCombat for gtx280. AFAIK gtx280 and gtx285 use the same stock cooler.
But in this case, we just wanna see the improvement over stock cooler.
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if no big effect whats the extra 512mb for?
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lol..im not saying 512mb have an extra..
just saying there's no big effect..
as owikh84 1GB memory is better for high resolution..
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lol..im not saying 512mb have an extra..
just saying there's no big effect..
as owikh84 1GB memory is better for high resolution..
peace:peace:
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Having a bigger memory is not only for big screens you know >_>
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if no big effect whats the extra 512mb for?
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humm, imho, the extra memory could be for higher reso gaming, or maximum AA/AF setting, or some games just demand more vram

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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 14 2009, 09:51 PM)
it might not be the gfx. might be the tv.
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Is a 32LG53FR (Full HD)

This LCD 32 inch TV has 4 speakers (output of 200 watts). It has 100 programs or channels with features like PIP (1 Tuner), auto-off, auto sound leveler and OSD. It has 30000:1 Dynamic contrast ratio, brightness of 500 cd/m2 and Full HD resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels and has aspect ratio of 16:9 Wide Screen format. It has S-video input, 2 component inputs, PC input and 3 HDMI Inputs (ver 1.3). It comes with 5 ms of response time and viewing angle of 178 degree.

Need some input please so i can enjoy the benefits of using 1080p via HDMI cable. cry.gif


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Is a 32LG53FR (Full HD)

This LCD 32 inch TV has 4 speakers (output of 200 watts). It has 100 programs or channels with features like PIP (1 Tuner), auto-off, auto sound leveler and OSD. It has 30000:1 Dynamic contrast ratio, brightness of 500 cd/m2 and Full HD resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels and has aspect ratio of 16:9 Wide Screen format. It has S-video input, 2 component inputs, PC input and 3 HDMI Inputs (ver 1.3). It comes with 5 ms of response time and viewing angle of 178 degree.

Need some input please so i can enjoy the benefits of using 1080p via HDMI cable.  cry.gif
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Have you tried connecting using DVI/RGB/3RCA? If its still distorted then you can rule out connection problems.
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Try dvi, at least that's the closest similar connectivity to hdmi smile.gif
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humm, imho, the extra memory could be for higher reso gaming, or maximum AA/AF setting, or some games just demand more vram
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 14 2009, 08:30 PM)
Galaxy Non-reference GTX260 VGA Card With 1792MB Memory
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wow! tri-fan
I wonder how long this gtx 260 is? blink.gif

QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 15 2009, 02:30 AM)
Is a 32LG53FR (Full HD)

This LCD 32 inch TV has 4 speakers (output of 200 watts). It has 100 programs or channels with features like PIP (1 Tuner), auto-off, auto sound leveler and OSD. It has 30000:1 Dynamic contrast ratio, brightness of 500 cd/m2 and Full HD resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels and has aspect ratio of 16:9 Wide Screen format. It has S-video input, 2 component inputs, PC input and 3 HDMI Inputs (ver 1.3). It comes with 5 ms of response time and viewing angle of 178 degree.

Need some input please so i can enjoy the benefits of using 1080p via HDMI cable.  cry.gif
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ur 9800gtx+ is using dvi to hdmi adapter, right??
try dvi again, if still have problems, then mayb the dvi output has problem
if not, then mayb the dvi to hdmi adapter is the cause of problem
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QUOTE(RMaliff @ Mar 15 2009, 02:57 AM)
Have you tried connecting using DVI/RGB/3RCA? If its still distorted then you can rule out connection problems.
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Tried using DVI ---adapter --> RGB tested with excelent PQ with no text distorted
Tried using DVI ---adapter--> HDMI tested with test distorted but movies okie
3RCA did not test coz the cable provided in the box is not long enough.

tweek the refresh rate/ resolution settings to lower size looks ugly with big icons/ downloaded latest driver no luck too

QUOTE(metsatsu @ March 15 2009, 10:27 AM )
Try dvi, at least that's the closest similar connectivity to hdmi
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How do i connect DVI directly to LCD? coz my LCD only comes with Component input and HDMI....
Advise? sweat.gif

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ur 9800gtx+ is using dvi to hdmi adapter, right??
try dvi again, if still have problems, then mayb the dvi output has problem
if not, then mayb the dvi to hdmi adapter is the cause of problem
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Yeah, DVI to HDMI adapter (Brand New Cable)

Could it be, what nVidia claimed that HDMI/HDCP supported means it only support in connecting your CPU to LCD just to watch movies only... sweat.gif

I bet some of us here using CPU --> LCD to enjoy to larger viewing satisfaction nod.gif but no problems for your text distortion or picture shaded? hmm.gif



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its either resolution or your fps (frame per second).. try pressing the 'auto adjust' button on your monitor
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weird.
my friend use a xfx 9800gtx+ with a t2200hd and everything is perfect. have u tried connecting it with other lcd?
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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 15 2009, 10:38 AM)
wow! tri-fan
I wonder how long this gtx 260 is? blink.gif
ur 9800gtx+ is using dvi to hdmi adapter, right??
try dvi again, if still have problems, then mayb the dvi output has problem
if not, then mayb the dvi to hdmi adapter is the cause of problem
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 15 2009, 10:56 AM)
Tried using DVI ---adapter --> RGB tested with excelent PQ with no text distorted
Tried using DVI ---adapter--> HDMI tested with test distorted but movies okie
3RCA did not test coz the cable provided in the box is not long enough.

tweek the refresh rate/ resolution settings to lower size looks ugly with big icons/ downloaded latest driver no luck too
How do i connect DVI directly to LCD? coz my LCD only comes with Component input and HDMI....
Advise?  sweat.gif
Yeah, DVI to HDMI adapter (Brand New Cable)

Could it be, what nVidia claimed that HDMI/HDCP supported means it only support in connecting your CPU to LCD just to watch movies only... sweat.gif 

I bet some of us here using CPU --> LCD to enjoy to larger viewing satisfaction  nod.gif  but no problems for your text distortion or picture shaded?  hmm.gif
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hhmm... no DVI input, then i got nothing to say on that.

but one thing weird is that u mentioned
"Tried using DVI ---adapter --> RGB tested with excelent PQ with no text distorted"
RGB is...? can't remember tongue.gif
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Is a 32LG53FR (Full HD)

This LCD 32 inch TV has 4 speakers (output of 200 watts). It has 100 programs or channels with features like PIP (1 Tuner), auto-off, auto sound leveler and OSD. It has 30000:1 Dynamic contrast ratio, brightness of 500 cd/m2 and Full HD resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels and has aspect ratio of 16:9 Wide Screen format. It has S-video input, 2 component inputs, PC input and 3 HDMI Inputs (ver 1.3). It comes with 5 ms of response time and viewing angle of 178 degree.

Need some input please so i can enjoy the benefits of using 1080p via HDMI cable.  cry.gif
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Nvidia gc cannot support 1080p cos the HDMI is just a conversion of DVI. It just a marketing gimmic. HDMI enable not 1080p enable. Furthemore you cannot boot using HDMI port in GTX295.

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Nvidia gc cannot support 1080p cos the HDMI is just a conversion of DVI. It just a marketing gimmic. HDMI enable not 1080p enable. Furthemore you cannot boot using HDMI port in GTX295.
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nvidia gc cannot support 1920X1080? are u sure on that....
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Nvidia gc cannot support 1080p cos the HDMI is just a conversion of DVI. It just a marketing gimmic. HDMI enable not 1080p enable. Furthemore you cannot boot using HDMI port in GTX295.
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err a bit wrong and right here bro
hdmi 1080p is nothing actually other than a 1920x1080 at a lower refresh rate.

what u thik u wanted to say was native support aka bootup via hdmi,

third party gc's can but stock afaik havent seen one yet. other than the dvi dongle via dvi is not a problem.





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err a bit wrong and right here bro
hdmi 1080p is nothing actually other than a 1920x1080 at a lower refresh rate.

what u thik u wanted to say was native support aka bootup via hdmi,

third party gc's can but stock afaik havent seen one yet. other than the dvi dongle via dvi is not a problem.
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Nvidia gc cannot support 1080p cos the HDMI is just a conversion of DVI. It just a marketing gimmic. HDMI enable not 1080p enable. Furthemore you cannot boot using HDMI port in GTX295.
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all the graphic cards on the market now only HDCP. i hav my notebook which is only 8600GT and there is a HDMI port built. so i always use HDMI cable to connect between notebook and my HP h2408h. i never see a problem of distortion or whatsoever..
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Mar 15 2009, 11:31 PM)
Nvidia gc cannot support 1080p cos the HDMI is just a conversion of DVI. It just a marketing gimmic. HDMI enable not 1080p enable. Furthermore you cannot boot using HDMI port in GTX295.
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Nvidia cannot support 1080p? hmm okie let say cannot support how does the text will be distorted or image shadowed?

What about other ppl connect their CPU --> LCD TV? no problem at all? (nVidia Driver)

Weird....

So what is your solutions OlgaC4? i wish to use HDMI to fully enjoy with LCD TV.

Thanks


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Nvidia cannot support 1080p? hmm okie let say cannot support how does the text will be distorted or image shadowed?

What about other ppl connect their CPU  --> LCD TV? no problem at all? (nVidia Driver)

Weird....

So what is your solutions OlgaC4? i wish to use HDMI to fully enjoy with LCD TV.

Thanks
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I got no idea lah. perhaps buy small TV lol. He he he. Are you using those cheap HDMI Cable and how long is the cable?

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olga i think ppl here dont know

gtx295 has three ports.. two dvi and one hdmi
he is talking about the hdmi

not most nvidia gc which has two dvi and they give u the dongle conversion from dvi to hdmi... .this one not a issue,
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anyone here using GTS250? got review this card?


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subrok007 you want upgrade to GTS 250? from 9800GT to GTS 250 is no diffrent
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subrok007 you want upgrade to GTS 250? from 9800GT to GTS 250 is no diffrent
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Still waiting for Nvidia to release new driver that optimized for new game H.A.W.X. ><"
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Mar 18 2009, 11:06 PM)
GTS250 = 9800GTX+ plus  nod.gif
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I know but still no diffrent.
Please Remeber back to old day

9800GT = 8800GT
9800GTX = 8800GTS G92
9800GTX+ = 9800GTX OC version with smaller GPU...increase 3 more FPS only
9800GTX+ = GTS250

8800GTS G92 and 8800GT diffrent just 5 FPS (it also mean 9800GT and 9800GTX )

so 9800GT to GTS 250 = 5 to 8 FPS diffrent only. SO what is the diffrent upgrade from 9800GT to GTS250? LOL unless u wnat spend money

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Still waiting for Nvidia to release new driver that optimized for new game H.A.W.X. ><"
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nvidia already rolls out new beta driver for hawx aite?
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yeap, SLI beta driver for HAWX..

Hmm, my new lappie got Quadro 3700M.. Hopefully it can beat 9800gtx.. biggrin.gif
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Quadro in gaming mode cannot beat those Gaming graphic card. I using Quadro FX4600 tested in game before and result same as 8600GTS only.

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That why G_Ken your quadro lappie don't put so high hope on it when playing H.A.W.K
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this quadro latest and high end in Nvidia.. doh.gif better check the online review for comparison vs other mobile GC.. it's better than mobility 4870 and 9800m gtx..

if thats not enuf, the lappie got quad core extreme..


Added on March 19, 2009, 3:20 pmnever compare a quadro and gaming GC? well, i know its not comparable vs highest end geforce offers, but what about mid range like 9800gtx?
it's different case in gaming world, quadro 3700m is actually the second best single chip notebook GC behind GTX280M with mobility 4870 behind it.. so, better update urself then..


Added on March 19, 2009, 3:23 pmsos cili thai:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Comparison-of...ards.130.0.html

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I sure know Nvidia Quadro is high end stuff and very powerful but on gaming the result still not that high enough. So far as u see from benchmaking result is just 10k score...even a gaming graphic card 9600GT also got 11k score.

That why i say don't give so high hope on it to Run very high or ultra high setting with full AA open
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I should merge my Quadro found out into this thread.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


And again, 3700m Won't be able to outrun 9800GTX.

If my Quadro FX5600 only has a RAW power of a near 8800Ultra, but over 8800GTX, I don't see why yours can outrun 9800GTX =O

Even when I SLI quadro FX5600, I am only able to get 9k score, erm, CPU score pull it down =.=

But again, I found out 2 points here.

I found out that Quadro have Physx as well.

And eventhough MSI P7N SLI PLATINUM is using a n750i chipset, 3rd Physx-able card can be dedicated physx.


Added on March 19, 2009, 5:17 pmBy the way, what I meant is in gaming.

for working, no one can stop your 3700m Lol.


Added on March 19, 2009, 5:20 pmOh by the way, Quadro never performs well in gaming.

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not sure how quadro fx performs on folding ._.
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Very well! *Tried it last night*

But I want to do bigger stuff.

I want my 3 FX's to do Folding simultaneously
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QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Mar 19 2009, 06:32 PM)
Very well! *Tried it last night*

But I want to do bigger stuff.

I want my 3 FX's to do Folding simultaneously
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Err...u got the link? Cannot find at Guru3d.com and Official Nvidia Driver web... unsure.gif
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here : http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...12569&Itemid=34

for vista only btw..
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I think Nvidia will release Empire Total War Driver first then only release HAWK....SO far now only got Driver for Fear 2 only.

EMpire now cannot support SLI my 9800GX2 work like shit on it
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oh thank you...For SLi user only.... nod.gif Hope next driver will increase performance on H.A.W.X and Empire Total War...both are great game.... rclxms.gif
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GTX260+ 216sp 65nm and 55nm can both SLi?
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sorry,one n00b question from meimei.
GTX260+ 216sp 65nm and 55nm can both SLi?
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should be no problem because 9800GTX and 9800GTX+ can be SLI
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the specs of the new GTX 275 is revealed

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...=12730&Itemid=1

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240 sp.so it seems its not an overclocked version of 260
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same memory bandwidth & memory size with gtx 260
same number of stream processor with gtx 280 & gtx 285
similar architecture with gtx 295
seems it looks like a hybird gc tat combine several features of gtx200 series blink.gif
so, the ascending order for gtx200 series shud be like below:

gtx260>gtx260 core 216>gtx275>gtx280>gtx285>gtx295


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Is it true that GTX275>GTX285?
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wondering how much would be the GTX275 if arrived in malaysia brows.gif
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240 sp.so it seems its not an overclocked version of 260
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Planning to change to Green Camp. Currently using HD4870 512MB and planning to replace it with Palit GTX260 216 Sonic (OCed). So do you guys think it's worth it or not. Or should I just wait for GTX 275 or Gainward GTX285 custom cooled (with 4 heat pipes) 1GB version. I prefer the latter but I don't have any idea about the price and its availability in our country and hence stopped thinking about it for a while.

So Sifus.. really need your help here.

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im also rookie tongue.gif btw, here my suggestion
i think not so worth coz 4870 performance similar with gtx260
512MB version & 1GB version's performance is same if u play games in lower resolution (lower than 1920x1080 i think) except something like crysis & warhead
u can wait till gtx275 released or the gainward gtx285 tat u interest coz price might drop tat time smile.gif
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QUOTE(gto87 @ Mar 20 2009, 11:47 PM)
Planning to change to Green Camp. Currently using HD4870 512MB and planning to replace it with Palit GTX260 216 Sonic (OCed). So do you guys think it's worth it or not. Or should I just wait for GTX 275 or Gainward GTX285 custom cooled (with 4 heat pipes) 1GB version. I prefer the latter but I don't have any idea about the price and its availability in our country and hence stopped thinking about it for a while.

So Sifus.. really need your help here.
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gainward shakehead.gif
get xfx / evga reference GTX285 and change to Artic Cooling Extreme GTX280 cooler brows.gif
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Mar 20 2009, 11:08 PM)
gainward shakehead.gif
get xfx / evga reference GTX285 and change to Artic Cooling Extreme GTX280 cooler brows.gif
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i think not so worth coz 4870 performance similar with gtx260
512MB version & 1GB version's performance is same if u play games in lower resolution (lower than 1920x1080 i think) except something like crysis & warhead
u can wait till gtx275 released or the gainward gtx285 tat u interest coz price might drop tat time smile.gif
Haha, you totally underestimated the GTX 260 Sonic. The performance is completely difference compare to the reference GTX 260. FYI the GTX260 Sonic's performance is almost identical to the stock GTX 280 and I'm sure you know this cause you own one right.

That's why I asked should I wait for the Gainward GTX285/275 or should I stick to my previous Idea which is buying either GTX260 sonic or HD4890.

and yes, I'm using a 24" LCD. Thanks for the info~

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gainward shakehead.gif
get xfx / evga reference GTX285 and change to Artic Cooling Extreme GTX280 cooler brows.gif
But this is not like a previous stupid Gainward card. here's the link
Gainward Custom Cooled GTX285

Btw, thanks for the suggestion.

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Mar 20 2009, 10:47 PM)
Planning to change to Green Camp. Currently using HD4870 512MB and planning to replace it with Palit GTX260 216 Sonic (OCed). So do you guys think it's worth it or not. Or should I just wait for GTX 275 or Gainward GTX285 custom cooled (with 4 heat pipes) 1GB version. I prefer the latter but I don't have any idea about the price and its availability in our country and hence stopped thinking about it for a while.

So Sifus.. really need your help here.
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my suggestion is...

get GTX 275 instead.

price for GTX 275... should be slightly cheaper. with the 448bit memory interface, the production cost for the memory part is definitely cheaper than the 512bit GTX 285, as less memory chips are used smile.gif so i guess... the difference will be around RM100-RM200 cheaper sweat.gif but for sure GTX 275 will be cheaper, no doubt. but by how much when it comes to msia, i would rather wait and see

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