Well I just think that before anyone starts giving a controversial or contradicting statement, he/she should have a valid explanations or valid proof before causing flames in the thread. just because some guy said so, and just simply taking the words for it does not prove the statement is valid. All I want is a good solid proof with good reference to backup, this does not mean I dismissed everybody's point of view. Well, if ppl here prefer to believe that 65nm is superior than 55nm in OC'ing, rather than giving me a more valid proof (eg. comparing an apple to an apple for a start) then I can end my search for answer right here. enough said.