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post Aug 22 2008, 09:12 AM, updated 18y ago

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Old Thread Chubby Hamsters V9

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WELCOME to the new thread, Chubby Hamsters V10!
A hamster is a rodent belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae. There are 5 types of hamsters, mainly the Syrian, Winter white dwarf, Russian campbell dwarf, Chinese hamsters and Roborovski hamsters.

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SPECIES:

Syrians (Mesocricetus auratus)
They are the best known species in the pet industry. Syrians are also known as Golden Hamsters because the first domestic hamster was a wild agouti colour, which is called Golden. They have also been called Teddy Bears because does have the fuzziness and roundness of a teddy bear. Syrians are known as fancy hamsters of all the hamster species since they come in many colour varieties and also coat varieties... some can have long fur and some short fur, which we normally call Long Hairs and Short Hairs... also there are fur types like Rex and Satin.

The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.

Syrians are large and comfortable to hold. They make suitable hamsters for the beginner keeper. Syrians that are handled properly would rarely or never bite, and can be tame to respond well to touch and voice.

Campbell's Hamster (Phodopus campbelli)
Campbells are probably the most popular of all dwarf hamsters since they come in many colour varieties that makes them attractive. The look similar to Winter White hamsters but they are actually different subspecies. So never mixbreed them.

Campbells are dwarfs... well, small hamsters. Please do not be fooled by petshops telling you they are mini hamsters and giving you a weird price and denying that they are Campbells. Anyway, they come in different colour and patterns but to breed, one must understand that hamsters that have any white spots or markings must never be bred together coz it can produce eyeless or teethless hamsters that die later... so if you were to breed, please read up.

These dwarfs may not be suitable for young children due to some dwarfs are bitey... and because of their small size, it would be harder for children to handle. Campbells are not aggressive biters, it is just that sometimes they will bite when you make them angry or startle them from their sleep.

Campbells are good in a pair or a small colony but always make sure your cage or tank has the space and enough hides and wheels to house a colony. These social hamsters are territorial and would fight off intruders that do not belong to their colony. Campbells are ok when they are introduced at a young age but letting an older hamster be kept with a younger one, most likely a fight would start.

Winter White Hamster (Phodopus sungorus)
WW are hamsters that can change their coat colour when we minimise their daylight. Their coats will change from their normal colours to a white coat but with their dorsal stripe and side arches visible. WW come in 3 colours, which are Agouti, Sapphire and Pearl. The Pearl do not change their coat colour at all, they remain in their white coat colour for life.

WW are different from Campbells, their eyes are bigger, fur is thicker, body is more bullet shape and their ears are less conspicious. It is easy to see the difference if a Campbell and WW were side by side.

WWs are nicer to handle for they have better temperments than Campbells. WW rarely change into their winter coats in captivity, so do not force your hamster to starve and stay in a cold room... this depends on the hamster whether it wants to change or not.

WW are almost similar with Campbells when it comes to pairs and colonies. Always remember, it doesn't necessary mean we should keep them in breeding pairs or male and female colonies. A single sex group is good enough for dwarf hamsters.

WW are known to fight among themselves out of the blue. Many do not understand that WW are territorial dwarfs, they can tolerate siblings or with other WW when introduced at a young age but there would always be a day where they would start fighting. Have spare cages at hand to separate fighting hamsters if you have a pair or a small colony. The best is keeping one. Do not worry, hamsters do not die from loneliness.

Roborovski Hamster (Phodopus roborovskii)
Robos are the smallest species of hamster. Adult Robos are only 2 inches in lenght. Unlike the other dwarfs, Robos do not have a dorsal stripe and they have slightly longer legs. Easy to identify from the size and also its sandy colour and white belly.

Yes, the smallest and also the fastest, this species is very well known for being very fast and active. So they are not very handle friendly since they are likely to jump or run off your palm. Many are really attracted by the facial markings, they appear to have "eyebrows".

Robos enjoy sand baths and a wheel. Due to their small size, one would need to purchase a glass/plastic tank to house them or purchase cages with small bars like the Habitrail Mini...

Robos do very well in little groups. They are the most sociable of all dwarf species and it is very entertaining to watch a small group of robos playing and eating in a tank.

Robos are not a hamster that is suitable for the beginner keeper as it could either be frustrating to have hamsters that run very fast or just unable to handle properly.

Chinese Hamster (Cricetulus griseus)
The Chinese hamster is known for their mousy looks. Yes, they were discovered in China long ago. Many people would say Chinese hamsters are hard to breed in captivity and are difficult to raise. Fighting problems occur so it is best to house them seperately. The Chinese hamster is also referred to as a "mouse-like" hamster because of its short nose, thin body, stocky legs and longer tail.

They do make great pets if they are bred by a proper breeder and have been handled often when young.

This species of hamster in Malaysia is very rare. The last known shop to have sold them were Pets Wonderland at Mid Valley years ago.

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VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

- Most hamsters do very well alone. Roborovski hamsters can be kept in small groups and best if single sexed but Syrians, Campbells, Winter Whites and Chinese hamsters are best kept on their own. They are always happier that way.

- Never breed hamsters if you do not have the space. Hamsters can reproduce every 20 days or so.

- Hamster fights are never fun to watch.

- Always remember to have food and water available. Never give too much fresh foods as it can give diarrhea to some hamsters, especially pet shop hamsters that have never eaten any veggie before.

- The bigger the cage or tank, the more comfortable for the hamster.

- Syrians need wheels that are about 8 inches in diameter. Wodent Wheels, Sanko Wheels or Silent Spinners have 8 inch wheels.

- NEVER keep different species in 1 cage or tank together... BIG big trouble there, may have some injuries, deaths... and possibility of mixbreeding Campbells with WW... bad idea.

- Hamsters do not have human emotion, they do not feel Love or have emotional feelings like humans. So there really is no reason to breed or keep them in a male and female pair unless you have a purpose as a true hamster breeder.

- Hamsters should have a small portion of fresh food everyday. Limit to a teaspoon a day for a Syrian, half a teaspoon of fresh food to dwarfs. Give more leafy veggies.

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Diet


Hamsters should have a good quality staple diet that is available for them throughout the day. Grains are important for hamsters to gain protein, minerals and vitamins as well as the good fat that the body needs to stay healthy. The carbohydrates and natural sugars from grains helps in maintaining your hamster's energy and alertness throughout the day. Wrong or unhealthy diets could cause hamsters to gain weight, show no interest in using it's running wheel and does little throughout the day. Here is a guide on how to feed your hamster healthily.

Try not to go for cheap foods that you see available in the market. Habitrail, Delikate, LM Farms.... all these have little nutritional value because they are loaded with sunflower seeds and dried corn. High in fat and phosphorus. Delikate and Habitrail staple food includes alot of alfalfa pellets (the greenish brown pieces) which hamsters do not like to eat at all and you may end up throwing it away. Choose high quality brands like:

Harry Hamster - it has quite alot of coloured pellets but quite nutritious and my hamsters eat everything.
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Prestige Hamster Nature - Loaded with top quality grains, pellets and dried fruits and herbs. Superb and nutritious for every hamster.
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Vitakraft Hamster Menu - Well rounded hamster diet, it has some dried veggies like carrots and peas. Better than Habitrail Staple diet.
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Kaytee Forti Diet Hamster - the ingredient list on grains and protein level is ok but one thing worrying is the preservative called Ethoxyquin, which is not good. Do not use this food in long term.
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I will update with more brands later.

Fresh food

Hamsters need a small amount of fresh fruits and veggies daily. Never give more than a teaspoon of fresh food to a hamster in a day as sometimes it can cause diarrhea. Dwarf hamsters, expecially Campbells should not be given too much fruits as Campbells are prone to get diabetes from sugary fruits.

Fruits: (Make sure all the seeds that are not edible are removed, grape seeds too)
Apple, Blueberries, Cherries, Cranberries, Dragon Fruit, Grapes, Honey Dew, Kiwi, Mango, Papaya, Peach, Pear, Plum, Rambutan, Star Fruit, Sun Melon, Strawberries, Watermelon.

Try not to offer too much sourish fruits like kiwi or strawberries, the high acid content can cause diarrhea if taken too much.

Veggies:
Alfalfa Sprouts, Asparagus, Broccoli, Bak Choy, Bean Sprouts, Capsicum(Bell Pepper), Carrots, Cauliflower, Celery, Corn, Coriander, Frozen peas, French Bean, Kangkong, Long Bean, Lady Fingers, Mustard Green(Sawi/Choy sum), Parsley, Peas, Pumpkin, Spinach, Water Chestnut, Water Cress.

Cabbage and cucumber can be offered but in very very small amounts.

Always remember, everything in moderation is good.

Supplement food:
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Both products can be found at Pet Shack or just PM Nezumitaro.

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Useful links (credit to Acey)The Hamster Name Generator (thanks to Gazard7)

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Pet shop that provide healthy hamsters and hamster accessories.

Pet Shack

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View the map to know.

Carries cages, a nice variety of hamster accessories and necessities. The only shop carrying WODENT WHEELS for hamsters. Safest and most recommended wheel.

Contact: 603- 5637 4536

Operation Hours
Tue - Sat : 11am to 8pm
Sun : 11am to 6pm
Mon : Closed

www.petshack.com.my

102 Block A Mentari Business Park
Jalan PJS 8/2
Bandar Sunway
46150 Petaling Jaya
Selangor, Malaysia

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It is often found that many people do not possess a strong reading and researching habit. Although there are often long and informative posts on the first page, newbies do not seem to read them and have to be reminded frequently to do so.

Here I have made some simple and short notes. I sincerely hope that newbies will take at least 5 minutes to read them.

Housing & Setup:

Winter Whites, Russian Campbell Dwarf Hamsters, Roborovskis and Chinese Dwarfs can be housed in the below cages as well as a 1.5ft Plastic Guppy tank.
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Syrian Hamsters need to be housed as below, with either an 8 inch Wodent Wheel or a 21cm Sanko Silent Wheel:
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Items needed:
- A right size of tank or cage.
- A wheel is MANDATORY.
- A water bottle
- A food dish/bowl
- A toilet (if your hamster is toilet trained, Syrians are easy to toilet train)
- Bedding: Breeder Celect, Corn Cob, Wood Shavings (no pine, no cedar)

Diet & Supplement:

Main Diet:
- Prestige Hamster Nature
- Britter Bunny
- Nutri-Smoothie (a Balanced Diet of fresh)
- Oxbow Hay Cake
- LC-Vit Syrup (Multi-Vitamin)
- Calci-Aid (for growing pups and nursing mothers)
- Organic Vegetarian Powder

Others:
- Rolled Oat
- Millets
- Sesame Seed
- Wheat Germ
- Buckwheat
- Dahl
- Pumpkim Seed
- Toufu
- Almond Seed

Note: Ratio of mixing Prestige Hamster: Britter Bunny; 1 bag(800gm) : ΒΌ bag(250gm)

BIG NO-NO food!!
- Chocolate
- Onion
- Garlic
- Cabbage
- Orange
- Pineapple
- Grapes
- Coffee




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Hamster Event & Gathering

Gathering:

Hamster small gaterhing @ Pet Shack
Date: 30th August 2008
Time: 1pm - 4pm

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- Photo Competion prize giving.
- Photo Competition participants redeem your small Uncle Taro's Gift.
- Fatsoso Syrian rehome day. Come play with Fatsoso before they go to new home.
- Small little door gift for everyone.
- Promotion for Uncle Taro's new serial smoothie
- Snacks & drinks will be serve
- best of all...... WE CAN CHAT LIVE!!!!!

Bring you hamaster with you, if you like. but make sure you don't over heat them when travel and also they can take the stress of travel. This gathering is mean to be fun and happy.. it wouldn't be nice if someone crying in the gathering ya!! Our hamster is still the priority.. if they canot come out gai gai... we bring goodies home for them
1. nezumitaro
2. sangel
3. blurjoey
4. Ryo with button mushroom
5. Mikelim2020
6. IcedNyior
7. Hazzy
8. Vergas
9. jy14
10. jtl
11. babydugong
12. Sophiera
13. babymoli
14. anderyna
15.harmony
16.

Event:

Vote for Photo Competition
Photo Competition

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Syrian bring up with balanced fresh smile.gif

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:21 AM

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Hehehehe...V10 liao
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post Aug 22 2008, 09:34 AM

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finally a new thread is born~
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:09 AM

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yeah...finnaly v10...so--i can post some pic...enjoy...

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ok...here the description...
no1-9 is in 2ft tank..no 10 is in mama cage..
no 2 is my campbell--u all can see he is bigger than others--so obvious rite??
the 3 small baby is no 5, 7 n 10...so small...but no 5 n 7 i put them in tank already--as i consider they grow big a little..
but no 10-- i still put in mama cage even not drink milk already--still very small...jz afraid that her sibling will buli her...

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LOL u mistyped the furball as ferball la!


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I was wondering why my hammie like that...Can any pro tell me?



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Fixed

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post Aug 22 2008, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 22 2008, 10:16 AM)
Fixed

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post Aug 22 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:14 AM)
I was wondering why my hammie like that...Can any pro tell me?


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I also dunno what happen to your hamster, but it look sick somehow, what had you feed it? Enough water? Did you put it very near the sunlight? Only 1 hamster got sick or others as well?

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 22 2008, 10:23 AM)
I also dunno what happen to your hamster, but it look sick somehow, what had you feed it? Enough water? Did you put it very near the sunlight? Only 1 hamster got sick or others as well?
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Only that female like that. The male nothing, still very active running around.
I feed a little cabbage yesterday and normal food for them lor. Water is in the tank...I'm using Ovo Pad.
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mecool: Go get nutri smoothies to boost up your pups. They look skinny.
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Okey i saw some shop at Pudu start selling Alex Farm diet food hamster.

Heres my review after month using it.

Ive seen my hammy just took the peanut,corn,kuaci & didnt touch the wheat & grain at all.

My hammy lost abit weight as i can see not chubby like ussual.
Yea i regret buying it.LULZ.
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When the wheat and grain are piled up like a mountain, don't dispose it, force your hamster to eat it tongue.gif

They just don't know how lucky they are to be able to eat staple food, smoothie, vege, fruits and all that, but i'm picky on my food too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:30 AM)
Only that female like that. The male nothing, still very active running around.
I feed a little cabbage yesterday and normal food for them lor. Water is in the tank...I'm using Ovo Pad.
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stop cabbage!! cabbage is not a nutrition or good food to feed.
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Nezu, update "Food Not To Feed To Hamsters" lar smile.gif
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Hi everyone.
I juz got myself 2 robos one month ago. 1 male and 1 female. After I read all info bout robo on the net, I decided to split them away from each other to prevent early pregnancy. When i put a splitter in the middle of my Habitrail Playground, both of them started to go crazy and climb here and there, and even did some spiderman's stunt on the ceiling of the cage. When i took away the splitter, they went together again and hugging each other, and stopped the "berserk" mode. smile.gif
I bought both of them from a petshop in pj seapark, therefore i din know how old are they, and the male is about 30% bigger than the female. Now the male is growing faster than the female after I gave them smoothie 1 week ago, but i'm sure that the female ate more.
Do I really need to seperate them now?
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QUOTE(mecool @ Aug 22 2008, 10:09 AM)
yeah...finnaly v10...so--i can post some pic...enjoy...

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ok...here the description...
no1-9 is in 2ft tank..no 10 is in mama cage..
no 2 is my campbell--u all can see he is bigger than others--so obvious rite??
the 3 small baby is no 5, 7 n 10...so small...but no 5 n 7 i put them in tank already--as i consider they grow big a little..
but no 10-- i still put in mama cage even not drink milk already--still very small...jz afraid that her sibling will buli her...
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sorry to be straigh, all ur syrian need alot of nutrition URGENTLY. they are totally not well feed.


Added on August 22, 2008, 11:19 am
QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 11:13 AM)
Hi everyone.
I juz got myself 2 robos one month ago. 1 male and 1 female. After I read all info bout robo on the net, I decided to split them away from each other to prevent early pregnancy. When i put a splitter in the middle of my Habitrail Playground, both of them started to go crazy and climb here and there, and even did some spiderman's stunt on the ceiling of the cage. When i took away the splitter, they went together again and hugging each other, and stopped the "berserk" mode. smile.gif
I bought both of them from a petshop in pj seapark, therefore i din know how old are they, and the male is about 30% bigger than the female. Now the male is growing faster than the female after I gave them smoothie 1 week ago, but i'm sure that the female ate more.
Do I really need to seperate them now?
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yes better seperate if u don't want babies....

if u can affort actually its good to bring home 1 more male n 1 more female.. so each of them hv a play mate smile.gif


Added on August 22, 2008, 11:20 am
QUOTE(XiaoDan @ Aug 22 2008, 11:13 AM)
Nezu, update "Food Not To Feed To Hamsters" lar smile.gif
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ok ok will do smile.gif give me some time ya.. hehhe

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 22 2008, 11:16 AM)
yes better seperate if u don't want babies....

if u can affort actually its good to bring home 1 more male n 1 more female.. so each of them hv a play mate smile.gif
Do you all know any place that i can get robos? Planning to get another cage as well, therefore not going to spend more on robos' price tag. smile.gif
I bought them at rm25 each. I went pet family in tmn mayang b4, and their robos are at rm38, some more look oily and wet, i suspect got mites smile.gif
Want to buy new pair at different place to prevent inbreed. Any place nearby PJ or sunway that sell affordable robos at around rm30? Or KL city area also will do.
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LOL ~ so fast V10 !!! Congrats for V10 !
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I think my hamster is smelling of elephant....not a hamster.

It's strange, usually she smells fine but now she smells like gajah poo pulak.


Added on August 22, 2008, 11:51 amMecool...you hams are really scrawny and they are losing fur. Bad, bad sign. what have you been feeding them?

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 22 2008, 11:45 AM)
I think my hamster is smelling of elephant....not a hamster.

It's strange, usually she smells fine but now she smells like gajah poo pulak.


Added on August 22, 2008, 11:51 amMecool...you hams are really scrawny and they are losing fur. Bad, bad sign. what have you been feeding them?
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I think your hammy been sleeping in her toilet... Just give her a nice sand bath or wipe her with a wet towel soaked with Oxyfresh for better rid of the smell.

Poor mecool. Kena in new V10 tongue.gif But I do have to agree that his syrians are too skinny. Need to give more food especially fresh veges or better yet Nezu's smoothie before their growth spurts end. Anyway I think their fur it not fully grown?

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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 11:13 AM)
Hi everyone.
I juz got myself 2 robos one month ago. 1 male and 1 female. After I read all info bout robo on the net, I decided to split them away from each other to prevent early pregnancy. When i put a splitter in the middle of my Habitrail Playground, both of them started to go crazy and climb here and there, and even did some spiderman's stunt on the ceiling of the cage. When i took away the splitter, they went together again and hugging each other, and stopped the "berserk" mode. smile.gif
I bought both of them from a petshop in pj seapark, therefore i din know how old are they, and the male is about 30% bigger than the female. Now the male is growing faster than the female after I gave them smoothie 1 week ago, but i'm sure that the female ate more.
Do I really need to seperate them now?
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same thing happent o my robos. the smaller one become spiderman climb until the top of the cage. dont know how he learn that also...
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1st lunch my baby hamster pic
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can see the baby hammie
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mommy hamster angry i guess bcause i take his baby pic
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QUOTE(babymoli @ Aug 22 2008, 10:49 AM)
mecool: Go get nutri smoothies to boost up your pups. They look skinny.
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yeah...i'm giving them smoothie--red devil...everyday since last week...the small glass container in tank is for the smoothie...
n i'm giving them white egg also...n mealies of course... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Added on August 22, 2008, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 22 2008, 11:45 AM)
I think my hamster is smelling of elephant....not a hamster.

It's strange, usually she smells fine but now she smells like gajah poo pulak.


Added on August 22, 2008, 11:51 amMecool...you hams are really scrawny and they are losing fur. Bad, bad sign. what have you been feeding them?
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not losing fur--it'z juz that black 1 is the smallest among ten...n i provide many food already...white egg n mealies...smoothies also...


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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 22 2008, 11:16 AM)
sorry to be straigh, all ur syrian need alot of nutrition URGENTLY.  they are totally not well feed.

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yeah--i notice that...i always top up the food...
the smoothie 1 morning,i evening...mealies afternoon...
white egg every friday...n some green vege while giving them smoothie...
a lot of improvement already actually...if not---the black 1 is more smaller....

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rclxms.gif nezu, post the gathering info also.

sophiera: use oxyfresh to get rid the smell tongue.gif

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 22 2008, 12:02 PM)
Poor mecool. Kena in new V10 tongue.gif  But I do have to agree that his syrians are too skinny. Need to give more food especially fresh veges or better yet Nezu's smoothie before their growth spurts end. Anyway I think their fur it not fully grown?
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not kena laaa...but i've said so rite???i've got 3 small baby...1 month already,i dun no wut to do more...hahahaha....i'm giving them the best while i'm holiday whole 1 week...not even meet my fren yet... cry.gif cry.gif
my mom also bising already...wake up sleep wake up sleep---all about hamster....hahahaha....


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Do you all know any place that i can get robos? Planning to get another cage as well, therefore not going to spend more on robos' price tag. smile.gif
I bought them at rm25 each. I went pet family in tmn mayang b4, and their robos are at rm38, some more look oily and wet, i suspect got mites smile.gif
Want to buy new pair at different place to prevent inbreed. Any place nearby PJ or sunway that sell affordable robos at around rm30? Or KL city area also will do.
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if u know petshop in puchong perdana...they sell it at rm15 1 robo...cheap--but i do no the quality...but the fur condition is good actually...

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QUOTE(mecool @ Aug 22 2008, 12:17 PM)
not kena laaa...but i've said so rite???i've got 3 small baby...1 month already,i dun no wut to do more...hahahaha....i'm giving them the best while i'm holiday whole 1 week...not even meet my fren yet... cry.gif  cry.gif
my mom also bising already...wake up sleep wake up sleep---all about hamster....hahahaha....


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if u know petshop in puchong perdana...they sell it at rm15 1 robo...cheap--but i do no the quality...but the fur condition is good actually...
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Hehehe... You can do what Nezu and sangels do. Syringe feed your hammies to give them equal portion of the food. Currently Nezu is syringe feeding smoothie to her fatsoso.


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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 22 2008, 12:24 PM)
Hehehe... You can do what Nezu and sangels do. Syringe feed your hammies to give them equal portion of the food. Currently Nezu is syringe feeding smoothie to her fatsoso.
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oh...good idea too....i try feed them using that tonight....now want to hang out with fren...huhu...any other food can i feed them????i currently feed them dry food delikate---i noe not good--but need to finish it also...but i do mix with some prestige<jz bought last monday>n some britter bunny.....they seem to love the britter so much...can i give them extra???
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i want ask something
how u give baby hamster name??
how u know the hamster.. i mean 'tanda'
my baby hamster all same..
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You try the recipe Nezu gave in the last few pages of V9. All those grains and nuts are very good.

You can give raw cashew, pumpkin seeds nuts also. They will love it.


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i want ask something
how u give baby hamster name??
how u know the hamster.. i mean 'tanda'
my baby hamster all same..
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You try the recipe Nezu gave in the last few pages of V9. All those grains and nuts are very good.

You can give raw cashew, pumpkin seeds nuts also. They will love it.


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Need to recognize their colors and markings in order to know which is which wor...
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my WW same lo
before i recognize from thier behavior

ham ham 'berserk' hamster.. very panas baran(die bcause cat bite him)
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hammie.. the slow one.. n very friendly
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QUOTE(akecema @ Aug 22 2008, 12:48 PM)
my WW same lo
before i recognize from thier behavior

ham ham 'berserk' hamster.. very panas baran(die bcause cat bite him)
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hammie.. the slow one.. n very friendly
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i think the more time you spend, eventually you will know them by nature smile.gif
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 22 2008, 12:02 PM)
I think your hammy been sleeping in her toilet... Just give her a nice sand bath or wipe her with a wet towel soaked with Oxyfresh for better rid of the smell.

Poor mecool. Kena in new V10 tongue.gif  But I do have to agree that his syrians are too skinny. Need to give more food especially fresh veges or better yet Nezu's smoothie before their growth spurts end. Anyway I think their fur it not fully grown?
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when animal is lack of nutrition.. 1st sign will be their coat.

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1st lunch my baby hamster pic
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i guess time u repaint or get a new tank.. rustly lu!! don't get poison them..

QUOTE(mecool @ Aug 22 2008, 12:11 PM)
yeah...i'm giving them smoothie--red devil...everyday since last week...the small glass container in tank is for the smoothie...
n i'm giving them white egg also...n mealies of course... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif


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not losing fur--it'z juz that black 1 is the smallest among ten...n i provide many food already...white egg n mealies...smoothies also...


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yeah--i notice that...i always top up the food...
the smoothie 1 morning,i evening...mealies afternoon...
white egg every friday...n some green vege while giving them smoothie...
a lot of improvement already actually...if not---the black 1 is more smaller....
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mecool, if u can affort. jgive them smoothie as much as they can eat. i am sure it will help them alot.

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rclxms.gif nezu, post the gathering info also.

sophiera: use oxyfresh to get rid the smell tongue.gif
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okie dokie

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oh...good idea too....i try feed them using that tonight....now want to hang out with fren...huhu...any other food can i feed them????i currently feed them dry food delikate---i noe not good--but need to finish it also...but i do mix with some prestige<jz bought last monday>n some britter bunny.....they seem to love the britter so much...can i give them extra???
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no canot replave staple food with britter bunny. maxi u can mix 1/4 bag of britter bunny with 1 pack of prestiege (or other brand about 800gm). we only need the biotin n beta carotein in the britter bunny. smile.gif take it as 1 of the supplement. not their main diet.
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Hey nezumitaro,

I've looked at the hamster cages from Petshack.com, and I'm wondering can a WW hamster (young one) climb up to the next floor ? This is the cage Hamu Kichi Land Hamster Cage
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congrat, v10 jor~

thx u guys for teaching me handle my bibi robo ~ now 4 of them runing around the small cage.. just 2 week plus,some of them can drink water and starting eat~ just a problem with me now...the cage very smelly~ how to clean up the cage? can't stand for the smell...coz i put them in my room~
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woot~ congrats on v10!

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yeah...finnaly v10...so--i can post some pic...enjoy...

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sorry to say but the babies all look very scrawny :/

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:30 AM)
Only that female like that. The male nothing, still very active running around.
I feed a little cabbage yesterday and normal food for them lor. Water is in the tank...I'm using Ovo Pad.
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Wonder if the female got traumatized coz the male tried to mate with it.

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I think my hamster is smelling of elephant....not a hamster.

It's strange, usually she smells fine but now she smells like gajah poo pulak.
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err..how do u know what gajah poo smells like? rclxub.gif
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My female hammie duno whats wrong wor, like no mood and weak neh.
Izit sick? Quite worry.
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QUOTE(cheewin88 @ Aug 22 2008, 02:09 PM)
congrat, v10 jor~

thx u guys for teaching me handle my bibi robo ~ now 4 of them runing around the small cage.. just 2 week plus,some of them can drink water and starting eat~ just a problem with me now...the cage very smelly~ how to clean up the cage? can't stand for the smell...coz i put them in my room~
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how often do u change the bedding? and what bedding are u using
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His mommy hamster give birth, then cant change the bedding..
maybe better put the tank out of ur room... or scoop some of the bedding that very wet... dont change all...
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In reanne topic gt teach hw2 change the bedding if gt babies outside ma
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hey everyone.. just to share photos of my hammies... Chubbie, Cuppy and Milky


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my babies are no longer with me... they passed away due to old age... chubbie was with me for 4 years, cuppy for 3 years and milky almost 3 years... they were very all very smart and would only poo and pee in the cage.. i use to let them walk around free at home.. chubbie used to even go out and come home everyday... he likes to visit the neighbours and steal potatos from their kitchen...
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wow~ u keeping a dog or hamster? they dun get attacked?
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Congrats V10!!!

Wah Ally, nice hammies! All look identical. laugh.gif Cute fuzzies~~~

@mecool: As everyone mentioned, your hamsters are a lil thin for 3 weeks plus right? They're not getting enough to eat. Always make sure that they have a lot of dry food, a lot of water. Your egg white can give everyday lor. I give everyday until I separate them. As experts mentioned, you can try syringe feeding for equal distribution of smoothies. Also, before you go out, give lots of fruits and vege. Not scared too much but scared too little mar.

I suggest bedding not be changed at all lar guys. It'll make the mum feel so stressed out to be in an environment diff from before while she's still with her babies (after 3 weeks can change). So if really wanna change wait till the babies turn 3 weeks.
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well cats walk around but they dont seem to care about my hammy... they just walk past him... of course i keep an eye on them...my dog doesnt disturb my hamsters
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lolx~ thats cool, but i dun dare to try that coz my hammy surely will wonder off and neva come back..
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QUOTE(z3alousn3ss @ Aug 22 2008, 01:59 PM)
Hey nezumitaro,

I've looked at the hamster cages from Petshack.com, and I'm wondering can a WW hamster (young one) climb up to the next floor ? This is the cage Hamu Kichi Land Hamster Cage
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yes can smile.gif

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 02:18 PM)
My female hammie duno whats wrong wor, like no mood and weak neh.
Izit sick? Quite worry.
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either u send to vet, or u try to give her more protien food. is she still eating? if she don't eat much. go pet shack to get survivor powder to stryinge feed her. will give her more energy n protein

QUOTE(Ally4774 @ Aug 22 2008, 02:53 PM)
hey everyone.. just to share photos of my hammies... Chubbie, Cuppy and Milky
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hah looks soo alike

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wow.. nezu becum our MOD d.. laugh.gif
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ah don't say like that.. the old one is more than 2500 posts mah..smile.gif

QUOTE(Ally4774 @ Aug 22 2008, 03:00 PM)
my babies are no longer with me... they passed away due to old age... chubbie was with me for 4 years, cuppy for 3 years and milky almost 3 years... they were very all very smart and would only poo and pee in the cage.. i use to let them walk around free at home.. chubbie used to even go out and come home everyday... he likes to visit the neighbours and steal potatos from their kitchen...
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sound like u are not in malaysia smile.gif

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cute wor looks big head
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QUOTE(Ally4774 @ Aug 22 2008, 03:00 PM)
my babies are no longer with me... they passed away due to old age... chubbie was with me for 4 years, cuppy for 3 years and milky almost 3 years... they were very all very smart and would only poo and pee in the cage.. i use to let them walk around free at home.. chubbie used to even go out and come home everyday... he likes to visit the neighbours and steal potatos from their kitchen...
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Wah ur hamster go outside the house?
Wont u worry? No cat atk them or kidnap by other ppl?
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 22 2008, 03:38 PM)
cute wor looks big head
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hehe, thx nezu. your fatsoso looks more cute rclxms.gif


lolz, ryo, who would kidnap a hammy, its not like it worth a thousand bucks. except gals that like chubby pets lar brows.gif

that reminds me that need to teach my hammies gongxi tricks and can get more angpau during CNY

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Swt hw do u teach it = =
If i see hamster running near my house sure i kidnap
Afraid if any1 lost their hammy and they wont survive outside
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actually i started letting them only within the house but then i started training them how to walk home if they accidently go outside... it was hard first but then once they got use the path even if i carry them and leave them far from home they know how to walk back... i used to also play catch catch with them outside..
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 22 2008, 04:08 PM)
Swt hw do u teach it = =
If i see hamster running near my house sure i kidnap
Afraid if any1 lost their hammy and they wont survive outside
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if my mission failed, i still have my puppy for backup. muahaha..

still thinking how to teach =p holiday got plenty of time
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QUOTE(Ally4774 @ Aug 22 2008, 04:11 PM)
actually i started letting them only within the house but then i started training them how to walk home if they accidently go outside... it was hard first but then once they got use the path even if i carry them and leave them far from home they know how to walk back... i used to also play catch catch with them outside..
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Are u Malaysian?
I hope u live nearby my house, so tat i can kidnap them brows.gif
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Are u Malaysian?
I hope u live nearby my house, so tat i can kidnap them  brows.gif
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 03:57 PM)
hehe, thx nezu. your fatsoso looks more cute rclxms.gif
lolz, ryo, who would kidnap a hammy, its not like it worth a thousand bucks. except gals that like chubby pets lar brows.gif

that reminds me that need to teach my hammies gongxi tricks and can get more angpau during CNY
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lol i will 'kidnap' the hamster lol.... if don't kidnap them. they may die in a cat or dog mouth..
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Lol agree, shld say we rescue

Abit off topic, nezu i saw ur taro "flying" vid on utube
Din knw bulldog can be so cute hahahaha
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Well..seems that my female WW 'look like sick'..Will go to PetShack get uncle taro nutri food and need get some ovo products. drool.gif

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If your hamster is sick you should bring to a vet lo. Survivor powder only helps give energy and protein. The sickness might not go away. (sorry nezu. not insulting your products. Just scared the WW got virus).
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Congrats V10!!!


@mecool: As everyone mentioned, your hamsters are a lil thin for 3 weeks plus right? They're not getting enough to eat. Always make sure that they have a lot of dry food, a lot of water. Your egg white can give everyday lor. I give everyday until I separate them. As experts mentioned, you can try syringe feeding for equal distribution of smoothies. Also, before you go out, give lots of fruits and vege. Not scared too much but scared too little mar.


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not 3 weeks...they are now 1 month already...huhu...i trying so hard to make them grow sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif ...holiday jz left 3 more days...aiyo.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


bout egg white???can give everyday haa??i thought give too much can make them have wet poo..cause i did give large amount of smoothie everyday..
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 05:36 PM)
If your hamster is sick you should bring to a vet lo. Survivor powder only helps give energy and protein. The sickness might not go away. (sorry nezu. not insulting your products. Just scared the WW got virus).
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What kind of virus?
Not sure lo...she seems like no energy lo, still eat like normal. The eyes looks small like that, like barely open.
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@unknownhammie: does it look like the eyes are stuck together a little? Maybe it's eye infection. Not sure what the symptoms are but hamsters are usually energetic when awake mar.

@mecool: boiled egg is protein source. You can give daily but make sure your mealie reduce number lo. sad.gif They're quite small for 1 month. And their fur don't look dense. They're not inbred, are they?

You don't have to take care of them 24/7 wan. In the morning when you wake up, give fresh smoothie (enough to tahan until evening. ), give a lot of fresh vege and fruit, make sure their water bottle and dry food got a lot. You can buy LC vit syrup to increase their appetite.

At night come back, give another bowl of fresh smoothie, fresh vege. Give mealies also lo.

You adjust adjust a bit. Giive them a little bit more than they usually eat so that the hammies still have food if they decide they wanna eat more. Their growing period is very important to determine their health and size in future.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 06:07 PM)
@unknownhammie: does it look like the eyes are stuck together a little? Maybe it's eye infection. Not sure what the symptoms are but hamsters are usually energetic when awake mar.
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Not sure wor...sometime open but not all..like 'mengantuk' like that lo. Very worry le. The male nothing...only female.
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How many times has your female hamster given birth? How old is it?
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 06:21 PM)
Not sure wor...sometime open but not all..like 'mengantuk' like that lo. Very worry le. The male nothing...only female.
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Or she just wake up?.. hmm.gif

my "ex"WW also like tat...i got 2 male.. one is quite active..

but another 1 seems like very scare..& always hide inside the hole..

& alwiz sleep too... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 06:23 PM)
How many times has your female hamster given birth? How old is it?
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None..still small le about 1 month like that.

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i think its better go to the vet asap
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Those dog/cat vet boleh kah? No experience...lol

QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 22 2008, 07:10 PM)
Or she just wake up?.. hmm.gif

my "ex"WW also like tat...i got 2 male.. one is quite active..

but another 1 seems like very scare..& always hide inside the hole..

& alwiz sleep too... shakehead.gif
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Mine yesterday evening start hide then like no strength. Then now sleep upside down and always hide at ovo water tank.
No strength no move like that.
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HI everyone, these are my robos... smile.gif The smaller one is the female, and the bigger one is the male.

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Just got them one month ago, so far haven't let me handle them yet. The female can let me touch, but always think that my finger is the food, and straight away nibble it. And the male one always dash... dash... and dash even if i touch him a little bit. smile.gif

I'm still thinking whether to let them continue staying together or not, I don't mind getting babies but I'm juz worried bout the early pregnancy will affect her health... Does anyone here knows about the side effect of early pregnancy? ....

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In order to celebrate version10, i now present to you the big backside of Sugar flex.gif

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Sugar: what are you looking at, never seen a backside flex.gif


dont mind the quality, i am using cheapo china phone, wait i get back my w810 brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 07:41 PM)
HI everyone, these are my robos... smile.gif The smaller one is the female, and the bigger one is the male.

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they look cute.. thumbup.gif

& ur photo looks great..nice skill... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 07:41 PM)
HI everyone, these are my robos... smile.gif The smaller one is the female, and the bigger one is the male.

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Just got them one month ago, so far haven't let me handle them yet. The female can let me touch, but always think that my finger is the food, and straight away nibble it. And the male one always dash... dash... and dash even if i touch him a little bit. smile.gif

I'm still thinking whether to let them continue staying together or not, I don't mind getting babies but I'm juz worried bout the early pregnancy will affect her health... Does anyone here knows about the side effect of early pregnancy? ....
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i think jayniel say before that early pregnancy will the size of hamster to remain the same means that it will stay same size until old age, it will also effect the backbone, she wont stay straight, a bit bongkok, something like that
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 22 2008, 07:49 PM)
they look cute.. thumbup.gif

& ur photo looks great..nice skill... tongue.gif
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TQTQ... i took them using my SLR camera... u can see the small one started to run because i sticked the lense into their cage... tongue.gif
Aih.... it wud be better if i can snap them while holding them on my hand... but i have faith!!!!

Anyway, how long did all of ur bedding can last?... I'm using chippsi apple(i knew it's wrong, but try to finish it... sad.gif), and it can only last about 2 weeks, and I've toilet train them. Anything that can last longer? Will the Classic be the same as well?
Because changing the bedding for them is very tough job for now since they dun let me pick them up, i gotta open the tube connector and lure them into a tmp cage...
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 07:57 PM)
TQTQ... i took them using my SLR camera... u can see the small one started to run because i sticked the lense into their cage... tongue.gif
Aih.... it wud be better if i can snap them while holding them on my hand... but i have faith!!!!

Anyway, how long did all of ur bedding can last?... I'm using chippsi apple(i knew it's wrong, but try to finish it... sad.gif), and it can only last about 2 weeks, and I've toilet train them. Anything that can last longer? Will the Classic be the same as well?
Because changing the bedding for them is very tough job for now since they dun let me pick them up, i gotta open the tube connector and lure them into a tmp cage...
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SLR camera is always better than a digital cam


use a container to scoop them out ler, easy job tongue.gif

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 07:52 PM)
i think jayniel say before that early pregnancy will the size of hamster to remain the same means that it will stay same size until old age, it will also effect the backbone, she wont stay straight, a bit bongkok, something like that
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erm... icic... then i better move them away from each other soon. So, now i need to search for another shop that sell robos in different bloodline around RM30 or less... Or any LYNer selling?
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 08:04 PM)
erm... icic... then i better move them away from each other soon. So, now i need to search for another shop that sell robos in different bloodline around RM30 or less... Or any LYNer selling?
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check jayniel's thread, she is selling, lots of ppl is selling in garage sale, they sell less then 20 bucks i guess
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wah.. they are soo cute..
i miss my roboS..
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 07:52 PM)
i think jayniel say before that early pregnancy will the size of hamster to remain the same means that it will stay same size until old age, it will also effect the backbone, she wont stay straight, a bit bongkok, something like that
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can ask u a ques?...let say if i don't pump my hammy now but after few months..

is she posibble to grow bigger??.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 07:59 PM)
SLR camera is always better than a digital cam
use a container to scoop them out ler, easy job tongue.gif
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Hehe, I've already cut a mineral bottle to scoop them out after i spent 20 min juz to lure them out from the cage.
Yaya...looking at jayniel's thread now, seems like a great seller and breeder... but dunno my gf will agree to let me add another 2 robos or not... hehe

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 22 2008, 08:10 PM)
can ask u a ques?...let say if i don't pump my hammy now but after few months..

is she posibble to grow bigger??.. sweat.gif
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nope. the growth of body structure has stop at a certain point, so if you pump them that time, they will only grow side ways


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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 08:11 PM)
Hehe, I've already cut a mineral bottle to scoop them out after i spent 20 min juz to lure them out from the cage.
Yaya...looking at jayniel's thread now, seems like a great seller and breeder... but dunno my gf will agree to let me add another 2 robos or not... hehe
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better ask her before make your decision, we dont want you two to argue becos of this

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 08:18 PM)
better ask her before make your decision, we dont want you two to argue becos of this
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True also... later throw me and my robos out.... then that time i'll need to go to the adoption thread ady....hahaha
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 08:18 PM)
nope. the growth of body structure has stop at a certain point, so if you pump them that time, they will only grow side ways


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better ask her before make your decision, we dont want you two to argue becos of this
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ic..izzit the size depends on the hamster??..i mean how big can they grow..

or depends on what food we give?..or both?.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 22 2008, 08:31 PM)
ic..izzit the size depends on the hamster??..i mean how big can they grow..

or depends on what food we give?..or both?.. hmm.gif
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depends on both, if you give good food, the size can be bigger, you see nezu's hammy then you will know, haha
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if want a big and healthy hamster, should pump from a young age. All animals stop growing after a certain age. If pass that age, only can become fat, cannot become big.

The size has many factors lo, such as genes of the parents, type and also food we give.
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 08:39 PM)
depends on both, if you give good food, the size can be bigger, you see nezu's hammy then you will know, haha
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well..i give 5 worms to her each day...

Yeah...all grey color 1 rite?.. biggrin.gif

all look very cute...bear face...bear body too.... tongue.gif

i wonder how she can make her hammie to stop & let her take photo.. hmm.gif

mine walk nonstop if i put her out... doh.gif

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 06:07 PM)
@unknownhammie: does it look like the eyes are stuck together a little? Maybe it's eye infection. Not sure what the symptoms are but hamsters are usually energetic when awake mar.

@mecool: boiled egg is protein source. You can give daily but make sure your mealie reduce number lo. sad.gif They're quite small for 1 month. And their fur don't look dense. They're not inbred, are they?

You don't have to take care of them 24/7 wan. In the morning when you wake up, give fresh smoothie (enough to tahan until evening. ), give a lot of fresh vege and fruit, make sure their water bottle and dry food got a lot. You can buy LC vit syrup to increase their appetite.

At night come back, give another bowl of fresh smoothie, fresh vege. Give mealies also lo.

You adjust adjust a bit. Giive them a little bit more than they usually eat so that the hammies still have food if they decide they wanna eat more. Their growing period is very important to determine their health and size in future.
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not inbreed...the mom is 7months..bought it in jan/feb i think...dad is 1yr already bought last yr...
ok--i'll just change their bedding--and started to toilet train them..put extra container--for food..n larger bowl for smoothie..tonight will give them more egg n some mealies...
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 08:25 PM)
True also... later throw me and my robos out.... then that time i'll need to go to the adoption thread ady....hahaha
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I can reserve a place for your robos in my house, but for you... hotel maybe? hahahaha
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QUOTE(z3alousn3ss @ Aug 22 2008, 09:41 PM)
I can reserve a place for your robos in my house, but for you... hotel maybe? hahahaha
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Hehe... application went thru without any doubt when i said the mummy will become hunchback after early pregnancy.
How much is a 1.5ft tank ar?
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 10:29 PM)
Hehe... application went thru without any doubt when i said the mummy will become hunchback after early pregnancy.
How much is a 1.5ft tank ar?
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35 i think
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Mine is 35dollar
If u can DIY will be cheaper

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 22 2008, 10:34 PM)
35 i think
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 22 2008, 10:36 PM)
Mine is 35dollar
If u can DIY will be cheaper
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Petshack selling how much ar?

But DIY very hard to find fully transparent box... only the guppy tank is fully transparent.

I'm using a habitrail playground now, if i use the 1.5ft guppy tank, how am i gonna stick the bottle on it? how u all put the bottle? super glue? or poke a hole and tie it?... coz the sucker came with those bottle doesn't seem reliable... i tried once on my playground also, drop down very fast.

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Try wetting the suction area before you stick it on the cage. I do that and the suctions don't come off until I pry it off.
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waa...v10 already...so ketinggalan...want to update my robo pic...

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why kacao me..i want to sleep!!!!

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the most ok pic that i take...
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sad...My female hammie die jor...duno the cause also. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 11:59 PM)
sad...My female hammie die jor...duno the cause also. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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aiyo...pity u...hope she'll be happy in heaven...
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:59 PM)
sad...My female hammie die jor...duno the cause also. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Sorry to hear that. sad.gif May ur hammie rest in peace.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:59 PM)
sad...My female hammie die jor...duno the cause also. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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sad.gif May she rest in peace. Whatever the cause, at least she is free of pain and suffering now. And you still have the male right? She'll watch you both from hamster heaven.
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QUOTE(ss88 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:59 PM)
waa...v10 already...so ketinggalan...want to update my robo pic...

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why kacao me..i want to sleep!!!!

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the most ok pic that i take...
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How old is ur robo? As big as mine. But the coat a bit wet though.
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QUOTE(ss88 @ Aug 22 2008, 11:01 PM)
aiyo...pity u...hope she'll be happy in heaven...
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 22 2008, 11:03 PM)
Sorry to hear that. sad.gifΒ  May ur hammie rest in peace.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 11:04 PM)
sad.gif May she rest in peace. Whatever the cause, at least she is free of pain and suffering now. And you still have the male right? She'll watch you both from hamster heaven.
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Thanks...Feel very sad now..just bought only.
1 Male and Female but Female duno why die...

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 10:59 PM)
sad...My female hammie die jor...duno the cause also. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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OMG... shocking.gif shocking.gif
just died??...
sry to heard that... sad.gif

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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 23 2008, 12:05 AM)
How old is ur robo? As big as mine. But the coat a bit wet though.
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i think they are 4month already since i adopt from member...so i think the real age is 6 months...
the coat wet..yeah,thats the prob i'm facing while i adopting them...i do provide sandbath for them..but still not going off...
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
Thanks...Feel very sad now..just bought only.
1 Male and Female but Female duno why die...
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Don't be sad.Mayb it's time for u to buy a syrian... brows.gif

blieve me..u will like it very much.. biggrin.gif

it will be easier too since u are using habitrail... smile.gif

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@unknownhammie: If just bought then could be that she was already sick before you bought her. sad.gif

@ss88: How is the ventilation of your enclosure? Robos tend to sweat a lot and need good ventilation.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 12:11 AM)
@unknownhammie: If just bought then could be that she was already sick before you bought her. sad.gif

@ss88: How is the ventilation of your enclosure? Robos tend to sweat a lot and need good ventilation.
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the ventilation is ok i think...
i use 1ft tank...and put it in open window room...
i do no wut to do more...
feel like want to let go them..but,it's like not responsible...huhu...
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shakehead.gif You wanna let go of them because they sweat a lot? That is irresponsible.

BTW have you seen them actually rolling in the sand bath?
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 11:20 PM)
shakehead.gif You wanna let go of them because they sweat a lot? That is irresponsible.

BTW have you seen them actually rolling in the sand bath?
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blink.gif ya lor, try sprinkle sand on them, they will shake it off
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 12:20 AM)
shakehead.gif You wanna let go of them because they sweat a lot? That is irresponsible.

BTW have you seen them actually rolling in the sand bath?
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no laa...jz said2 only maa..thats y i said not responsible...

hmm..i see them roll in there...they even sleep in there too...
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QUOTE(ss88 @ Aug 22 2008, 11:17 PM)
the ventilation is ok i think...
i use 1ft tank...and put it in open window room...
i do no wut to do more...
feel like want to let go them..but,it's like not responsible...huhu...
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Sometimes they'll juz playing or sleeping on the sand. Juz make sure they really roll on the sand. And also, make sure their sleeping places are urine free, else they'll sleep on their own urine.
Like my habitrail playground, got one extension yellow box outside the cage, they like to go there and kick off all the bedding and sleep there, and most of the time sleep there together with their urine and poo, therefore i remove the extension.
Another thing, they will not bath in the sand if they poo or pee over there many times. U'll need to change new sand in order to let them bath.
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I went to Jusco just now, saw the Living World Exercise Ball for only RM18.90.

With a member card, can get 10% discount which is RM17.01

I bought from Petshack for RM22 + RM2.50 postage fee.

Damn ! mad.gif
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QUOTE(Ally4774 @ Aug 22 2008, 02:53 PM)
hey everyone.. just to share photos of my hammies... Chubbie, Cuppy and Milky
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Look like our SamSam ler... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 11:06 PM)
Thanks...Feel very sad now..just bought only.
1 Male and Female but Female duno why die...
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Sound like what was happened to my DigDig as he died from wet tail after we bought him back. Wet tail can be due to stress. Do check the tail whether is wet or the body is like sweating. If she is then most probably is wet tail disease. This is a fatal disease and they can died within 24 hours if not treated. So sorry for you. What you can do now is, clean the whole cage she stayed before this with antiseptic solution (eg: Delto) and wash with plenty of water to disinfect it, so that the germs will not pass to another hamster in the future. If you male hamster is cage together with your female then please do observe the male from now, get everything change NOW and disinfect the cage. Wet tail is very contagious.
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 23 2008, 12:26 AM)
Sometimes they'll juz playing or sleeping on the sand. Juz make sure they really roll on the sand. And also, make sure their sleeping places are urine free, else they'll sleep on their own urine.
Like my habitrail playground, got one extension yellow box outside the cage, they like to go there and kick off all the bedding and sleep there, and most of the time sleep there together with their urine and poo, therefore i remove the extension.
Another thing, they will not bath in the sand if they poo or pee over there many times. U'll need to change new sand in order to let them bath.
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is it????hoho...i think it is not successful bcoz they did poo in there..but not pee...they pee everywhere in tank except in sand...

it's hard to teach robo to toilet train..they even pee on the wheel...n the wheel get very dirty until hard to clean..any other way to clean the wheel??


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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 23 2008, 12:29 AM)
I went to Jusco just now, saw the Living World Exercise Ball for only RM18.90.

With a member card, can get 10% discount which is RM17.01

I bought from Petshack for RM22 + RM2.50 postage fee.

Damn ! mad.gif
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wow...jusco got sell exercise ball also???
i thought they only have bedding n food...

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 11:11 PM)
@unknownhammie: If just bought then could be that she was already sick before you bought her. sad.gif

@ss88: How is the ventilation of your enclosure? Robos tend to sweat a lot and need good ventilation.
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QUOTE(sangels @ Aug 22 2008, 11:29 PM)
Look like our SamSam ler... biggrin.gif
Sound like what was happened to my DigDig as he died from wet tail after we bought him back. Wet tail can be due to stress. Do check the tail whether is wet or the body is like sweating. If she is then most probably is wet tail disease. This is a fatal disease and they can died within 24 hours if not treated. So sorry for you. What you can do now is, clean the whole cage she stayed before this with antiseptic solution (eg: Delto) and wash with plenty of water to disinfect it, so that the germs will not pass to another hamster in the future. If you male hamster is cage together with your female then please do observe the male from now, get everything change NOW and disinfect the cage. Wet tail is very contagious.
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I go wash now lo.
Not sure...my GF only mentioned today say that when buy, the tail wet wet lor.
Haiz...so sad till want cry.
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OMG.. Wet tail.. Never check before buying them ar?
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 22 2008, 11:40 PM)
I go wash now lo.
Not sure...my GF only mentioned today say that when buy, the tail wet wet lor.
Haiz...so sad till want cry.
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I understand how is she feel when lost a hamster even it just with you for few days. Ask her not to be too sad as sometimes this will happen, no one to be blame. I do cry for all my hamsters no matter they died or gone missing. cry.gif Stress and maybe the hamster can adapt well with the new environment and developed wet tail. Learn from experience. That's why we always mention of leaving them alone for few days after brought them home to prevent stressing them. That's the reason.

QUOTE(XiaoDan @ Aug 22 2008, 11:42 PM)
OMG.. Wet tail.. Never check before buying them ar?
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Sometimes hamster can get wet tail even they are healthy when we buy them.

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rclxms.gif Dug out some old pictures of my dear Pastel. He was one of the most beautiful robos I have ever seen (besides being a white face tongue.gif). I just had to have him when I saw him when he was little.

He had very thick dense fur which he kept clean by frequently grooming and sand bathing. He was also very "manly". ahem... He grew to be big and had such cute looking wide ears. He was also the most intelligent robo I owned. My star trick master. Chubbiest robo I ever owned as well.

In loving memories, I give you, Pastel. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 01:13 AM)
rclxms.gif Dug out some old pictures of my dear Pastel. He was one of the most beautiful robos I have ever seen (besides being a white face tongue.gif). I just had to have him when I saw him when he was little.

He had very thick dense fur which he kept clean by frequently grooming and sand bathing. He was also very "manly". ahem... He grew to be big and had such cute looking wide ears. He was also the most intelligent robo I owned. My star trick master. Chubbiest robo I ever owned as well.

In loving memories, I give you, Pastel.  smile.gif


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beautiful white face,,,it s hard to get...
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 22 2008, 04:32 PM)
Lol agree, shld say we rescue

Abit off topic, nezu i saw ur taro "flying" vid on utube
Din knw bulldog can be so cute hahahaha
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hehhh yes he is

QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 22 2008, 05:36 PM)
If your hamster is sick you should bring to a vet lo. Survivor powder only helps give energy and protein. The sickness might not go away. (sorry nezu. not insulting your products. Just scared the WW got virus).
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no problem Jamien, cos its the real fact, survivor powder don't container medication. but they do need to take in double dosage of protein n energy to keep on their strengh, in order to take treatment.

QUOTE(mecool @ Aug 22 2008, 05:49 PM)
not 3 weeks...they are now 1 month already...huhu...i trying so hard to make them grow sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif ...holiday jz left 3 more days...aiyo.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
bout egg white???can give everyday haa??i thought give too much can make them have wet poo..cause i did give large amount of smoothie everyday..
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add the smoothie slowly and monitoor their poo.. if everything goes well just add until u see left over food.

QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 22 2008, 08:55 PM)
well..i give 5 worms to her each day...

Yeah...all grey color 1 rite?.. biggrin.gif

all look very cute...bear face...bear body too.... tongue.gif

i wonder how she can make her hammie to stop & let her take photo.. hmm.gif

mine walk nonstop if i put her out... doh.gif
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they do move smile.gif just sit there to wait. also take 10 pic, get 1 nice one only
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QUOTE(ss88 @ Aug 23 2008, 12:18 AM)
beautiful white face,,,it s hard to get...
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In Malaysia, yup. The sellers don't know about it yet. And those who do know hike its price sky high.

And thanks. He was a beautiful and lovable boy. Never had a more attention loving robo. He's one of the reasons why robos are my top hamsters.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 12:13 AM)
rclxms.gif Dug out some old pictures of my dear Pastel. He was one of the most beautiful robos I have ever seen (besides being a white face tongue.gif). I just had to have him when I saw him when he was little.

He had very thick dense fur which he kept clean by frequently grooming and sand bathing. He was also very "manly". ahem... He grew to be big and had such cute looking wide ears. He was also the most intelligent robo I owned. My star trick master. Chubbiest robo I ever owned as well.

In loving memories, I give you, Pastel.  smile.gif

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I want one.....!!!!!
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sweat.gif You want because he's a white face or he's chubby?

Anyway, try your luck and look at pet shops selling robos. You might see one or two. I've only ever seen 3 and owned 2. Shop owners won't be able to help you out to look for one because they don't know about white face hamsters.

Good luck in hunting!
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hehe, i'm hunting for another male robo... it wud be nice if it's a wf robo... wuahahahah....
btw... wat if i try to breed a wf robo with a normal robo... will the white face be the dominent gene?
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I honestly don't know because both my white face robos never produced any pups when I pair them up with normal robos. It could be that they're sterile or that the females didn't like them.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 01:06 AM)
I honestly don't know because both my white face robos never produced any pups when I pair them up with normal robos. It could be that they're sterile or that the females didn't like them.
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mayb the female robo thinks that: Why is their face so pale?... Sick ar?
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Think I'm back to square one of taming my syrian again.
Been busy with exams that I dont have time to play with mine. Guess he dont recognize me anymore.

Just now got bitten. Gosh I dont think I've ever bled this much besides having menses.
I didnt yank or threw him la, just hold his body trying to get him off of me.
I actually heard the sound of something tearing.

Seriously, I'm just gonna give him and myself some time out.
It'll be only feeding time and constant talking with absolutely no contact sleep.gif;

My hand is still trembling typing this lol.
He used to be the sweetest thing ;__;
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QUOTE(Katrinah @ Aug 23 2008, 01:13 AM)
Think I'm back to square one of taming my syrian again.
Been busy with exams that I dont have time to play with mine. Guess he dont recognize me anymore.

Just now got bitten. Gosh I dont think I've ever bled this much besides having menses.
I didnt yank or threw him la, just hold his body trying to get him off of me.
I actually heard the sound of something tearing.

Seriously, I'm just gonna give him and myself some time out.
It'll be only feeding time and constant talking with absolutely no contact sleep.gif;

My hand is still trembling typing this lol.
He used to be the sweetest thing ;__;
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You must have faith. My robos also same case like you, never let me get a hold, and one the female always thinks that my finger is food, and start nibble it. But when i tell her off, she will stop nibble. smile.gif

Even if you are busy, simply pass by their cage and say hi, and sometimes my robos will climb up to the cage and star at me. Juz let them remember ur smell... smile.gif Gambateh neh~~~
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sad.gif Ouch... Must hurt a lot. But getting bitten by a syrian isn't pleasant since they have such long and sharp teeth.

I suggest you use bribery. It's much better to get your hamster to think that you're a food provider, not a threat. Then from there, proceed from food provider to "interesting living thing".

Try cutting veges into long pieces and you hold one end and extend the other end to him.

@bytefreezer: no idea dude. Jus no pups. I miss my pastel. cry.gif
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Wow..finished washed my cage. Left 1 male WW only cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 23 2008, 01:36 AM)
Wow..finished washed my cage. Left 1 male WW only  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Today gonna wash all my WW tank also.
Weird is my male WW tank more smelly then my 2 female WW together in 1 tank.ROFL.
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Needs some help here..

yesterday i use that yellow tape..i dono what it's called..very sticky..

i paste it to block my hammie to go inside the hole..

who knows she go bite it ...

now the tape stick on her body...got few pieces

& i see some of her fur stick on that...OMG.. cry.gif

What can i do???.... cry.gif

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Hi all,im new in hamster,just bought two syrians yesterday,this is my cage and my hammys
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My syrian share running wheeeels~ laugh.gif
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welcome to the thread wave.gif

erm, since u're new, please take our advice : dont put male and female together unless u're prepared to take care of their offspring. syrians should be housed seperately. your wheel looks a bit small for a syrian also.

but ur cheese thingy is cute. where did u get it?

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QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 23 2008, 09:43 AM)
Hi all,im new in hamster,just bought two syrians yesterday,this is my cage and my hammys
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Erm dude, Syrians are solitary, please separate them.
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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
welcome to the thread wave.gif

erm, since u're new, please take our advice : dont put male and female together unless u're prepared to take care of their offspring. syrians should be housed seperately. your wheel looks a bit small for a syrian also.

but ur cheese thingy is cute. where did u get it?
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I bought it at sec 17 pet shope,dont remember the name sweat.gif .so should i buy a larger wheels?
I too want to experience how its like to have a hamster newborn nod.gif
P/s theres a vid where they share the wheels laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMvDfOZV5WY
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QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 23 2008, 09:57 AM)
I bought it at sec 17 pet shope,dont remember the name  sweat.gif .so should i buy a larger wheels?
I too want to experience how its like to have a hamster newborn  nod.gif
P/s theres a vid where they share the wheels  laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMvDfOZV5WY
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I hope you'll do your research first before breeding them. smile.gif
The wheel is definately too small. I would recommend a wodent wheel, costs you about RM 60 ++
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Newborn? Make sure you got money + time to keep them all. Because Syrians are solitary, they cannot share. Even mother and child, sooner or later they'll fight till the end of their live.
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Ur wheel exactly same as mine b4 i change2 bigger 1
When they need2 bend their body in the wheel, its nt good for them
They need larger wheel
Btw u bought them from same shop?
If yes pls seperate because inbreeding might happen
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 23 2008, 10:01 AM)
Ur wheel exactly same as mine b4 i change2 bigger 1
When they need2 bend their body in the wheel, its nt good for them
They need larger wheel
Btw u bought them from same shop?
If yes pls seperate because inbreeding might happen
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They'll have back problems right Ryo?
Ahh, i forgot about inbreeding. Bro, if your syrians are from the same shop they'd probabaly be from the same parents too. Don't breed them or you'll risk having inbreed syrians.
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Lulz nt sure bout back problem bt i read somewhere it say when they bend its nt good
Bt if i'll have2 bend when run liddat sure my back break = =
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 23 2008, 08:35 AM)
Needs some help here..

yesterday i use that yellow tape..i dono what it's called..very sticky..

i paste it to block my hammie to go inside the hole..

who knows she go bite it ...

now the tape stick on her body...got few pieces

& i see some of her fur stick on that...OMG..  cry.gif

What can i do???.... cry.gif
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cut it off smile.gif
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yep back problems. coz the wheel is too small that if they want to run in it, they hv to bend their back, leading to back problems and shorter lifespan.

very rational when you think about it smile.gif
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hi guys, any hamster type to recommend for newbie? So many types around...lol
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Thinking of getting a Female WW le...Pet Shack got sell a?
Or anybody selling? About 1month~2month old.
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 23 2008, 10:35 AM)
hi guys, any hamster type to recommend for newbie? So many types around...lol
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syrians are bigger thus nicer to hold and play play with compared to dwarf hamsters which might be a bit fast. Plus, you dont hv to keep them in groups coz syrians are solitary. smile.gif
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can robo be alone in the cage?... i got one pair now, but gonna seperate them after i cod with jayniel for another female(and she only got one), so it will be 2 female in a cage, and the male in another cage alone. I dun wan to get an extra male from the same shop i bought the first pair.
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cry.gif gosh, bad news. my house leader warn me to gave away the females and keep the males as my housemate complain that its the female too smelly.. *______*
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Swt la ur house dumb leader
Let me go ur house whack him/her
Maybe u can temporary put it in my house if u wan
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 23 2008, 11:24 AM)
cry.gif gosh, bad news. my house leader warn me to gave away the females and keep the males as my housemate complain that its the female too smelly.. *______*
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==" why your housemate so coward. Wanna complain come face to face lah!
really smelly meh?
Their pee issit?
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sad.gif the females pee more than the males. house leader @ owner
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 23 2008, 11:57 AM)
sad.gif the females pee more than the males. house leader @ owner
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Ohh, how often u change your toilet sand then? cannot keep in your room?
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QUOTE(neshie @ Aug 23 2008, 11:59 AM)
Ohh, how often u change your toilet sand then? cannot keep in your room?
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sad.gif will have to pack my room see got space o not. i change it twice a week ohmy.gif
if not have to temporary let my bro keep her 1st
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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 23 2008, 09:46 AM)
welcome to the thread wave.gif

erm, since u're new, please take our advice : dont put male and female together unless u're prepared to take care of their offspring. syrians should be housed seperately. your wheel looks a bit small for a syrian also.

but ur cheese thingy is cute. where did u get it?
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yes agree smile.gif

QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 23 2008, 09:57 AM)
I bought it at sec 17 pet shope,dont remember the name  sweat.gif .so should i buy a larger wheels?
I too want to experience how its like to have a hamster newborn  nod.gif
P/s theres a vid where they share the wheels  laugh.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMvDfOZV5WY
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get a bigger wheel @ 8inch. small wheel will injurt their back n neck. no matter u want to breed or not. u hv to seperate them smile.gif. also make sure u ready for 10 pups if u breed, if u canot rehome them within 1- 1.5mth.. u will hv to get 1 tank for each of them..
syrian best keep in a 2ft tank smile.gif info in 1st page.

QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 23 2008, 11:24 AM)
cry.gif gosh, bad news. my house leader warn me to gave away the females and keep the males as my housemate complain that its the female too smelly.. *______*
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hmm mind me to ask.. how baout my fatsoso then??
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 23 2008, 12:06 PM)
yes agree smile.gif
get a bigger wheel @ 8inch.  small wheel will injurt their back n neck.  no matter u want to breed or not. u hv to seperate them smile.gif.  also make sure u ready for 10 pups if u breed, if u canot rehome them within 1- 1.5mth.. u will hv to get 1 tank for each of them..
syrian best keep in a 2ft tank smile.gif info in 1st page.
hmm mind me to ask.. how baout my fatsoso then??
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guys, problem solve, i negotiate with the owner and he let me keep it with a condition that i have to change it 3 times a week the toilet sand.

so, nezu, your fatsoso is safe forever. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Hi... newbie here. I don't have a hamster yet but plan to get one this December (after exams).

How much does a syrian cost at Petshack? And what about the smoothies? I'm saving up money, so it would be good to know the costs.

Argh... can't wait... =P
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QUOTE(vivian_w @ Aug 23 2008, 12:20 PM)
Hi... newbie here. I don't have a hamster yet but plan to get one this December (after exams).

How much does a syrian cost at Petshack? And what about the smoothies? I'm saving up money, so it would be good to know the costs.

Argh... can't wait... =P
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if u buy all the stuff there and it is over rm88(if not wrong) they will giv u a free syrian~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(vivian_w @ Aug 23 2008, 12:20 PM)
Hi... newbie here. I don't have a hamster yet but plan to get one this December (after exams).

How much does a syrian cost at Petshack? And what about the smoothies? I'm saving up money, so it would be good to know the costs.

Argh... can't wait... =P
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Hamster is very cheap especially for syrian but the accesories are expensive. Try to get good stuff for your hamster if you wanna give it the best since you only gonna to have 1 syrian. Get the 2ft tank and a good wheel. There is aroung RM100 already. Prepare about RM160-RM200 for everything, I'm talking about getting the best, will be slightly cheaper if you get cheap stuffs. Get all from Pet Shack I'll suggest to you as they are very reliable and their price is reasonable and their service is excellent. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Smoothie is long term food, cost you RM10-12 per container and it last about 2 weeks for 1 syrian.

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Not only that you get to see their puppies and pet the chihuahua.
The chihuahua loves pets.

Ok that is off topic. Apparently bean is perking up O_O
I don't know what happened, suddenly so young and active. She's really old for a hamster and still so keng!

By the way, your perly is the cutest whiteface in the whole of Malaysia, maybe the world. Ah...Jamien...so sad hamsters live such short lives sad.gif

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hi guys, any hamster type to recommend for newbie? So many types around...lol
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syrian hamster is recommended for newbie..
you can play with them, do not bite..
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cut it off smile.gif
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jus now saw some yellow liquid...

dono is the plastic she ate ornot.... shocking.gif

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 23 2008, 01:39 PM)
jus now saw some yellow liquid...

dono is the plastic she ate ornot.... shocking.gif
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Izit the yellow color thing you told me?
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guys, i'm pretty sure now my robos are both male. should i get another cage before they start killing each other or just leave them be?
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QUOTE(mDinie @ Aug 23 2008, 01:54 PM)
guys, i'm pretty sure now my robos are both male. should i get another cage before they start killing each other or just leave them be?
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Robo can live in family unless one of your robo started to bully the other one.
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owh...they seems to be loving each other for now. maybe they are homos... heh...


will keep my eye on them if they start fighting...
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QUOTE(mDinie @ Aug 23 2008, 02:01 PM)
owh...they seems to be loving each other for now. maybe they are homos... heh...


will keep my eye on them if they start fighting...
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LOL they r no such thing as homo or les in hamster diary.
Robo is best to kept together so that they got friends to play.
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More like playmates than gay and les...not every animal kekok wan la tongue.gif
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haha...how i know..

they do seem to be playing with each other a lot. kissing and hugging..
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Izit the yellow color thing you told me?
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yea...is the same thing..

but yesterday i kepo..i use the tape to stick on the hole below the food container there..

coz i dun wan she sleep there since i bought a new house 4 her..

now those sh!ts are stick on her body..i cut down few pieces d..but stil left some which i cant cut..

stick on her body very KUAT... shakehead.gif

somemore she alwiz move..scared later hurts her skin... rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(mDinie @ Aug 23 2008, 01:54 PM)
guys, i'm pretty sure now my robos are both male. should i get another cage before they start killing each other or just leave them be?
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robos need friends... smile.gif

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QUOTE(mDinie @ Aug 23 2008, 02:15 PM)
haha...how i know..

they do seem to be playing with each other a lot. kissing and hugging..
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Your robos are fine together. The best species of hamsters if you wish to keep many together. I've never seen "gay" robos no matter how many I house together (one sex per tank of course). And robos don't kiss. It just looks like our kissing. wub.gif But thheir friendliness to each other is also one of the points of what makes them adorable.


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I went out and got myself a Winter Normal hamster. Didn't quite like the color on the Syrian hamster...Robovski was nice but they're very quick on their feet...
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It is often found that many people do not possess a strong reading and researching habit.  Although there are often long and informative posts on the first page, newbies do not seem to read them and have to be reminded frequently to do so.

Here I have made some simple and short notes. I sincerely hope that newbies will take at least 5 minutes to read them.

Housing & Setup:

Winter Whites, Russian Campbell Dwarf Hamsters, Roborovskis and Chinese Dwarfs can be housed in the below cages as well as a 1.5ft Plastic Guppy tank.
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Syrian Hamsters need to be housed as below, with either an 8 inch Wodent Wheel or a 21cm Sanko Silent Wheel:
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Items needed:
- A right size of tank or cage.
- A wheel is MANDATORY.
- A water bottle
- A food dish/bowl
- A toilet (if your hamster is toilet trained, Syrians are easy to toilet train)
- Bedding: Breeder Celect, Corn Cob, Wood Shavings (no pine, no cedar)

BIG NO-NO food!!
- Chocolate
- Onion
- Garlic
- Cabbage
- Orange
- Pineapple
- Grapes
- Coffee
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OMG...baru nampak le. If not i would not get Habitrail ovo, looks too big for my WW. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Yesterday my GF tried to feed our WW wif kit kat shakehead.gif shakehead.gif ..lucky i told her dont.
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Rats are some of the very few animals that can eat chocolate, so the rule is...

tell your GF this:

NEVER feed anything that is not a rat or a human chocolate unless confirmed that it won't poison them. Poisoning is not due to caffine, but doe to theobromine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobromine_poisoning <---
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Got my female robo from jayniel this morning... tamed female robo... smile.gif
But when i try to intro her to my current pair, the female that i got from jayniel seems panic and screaming at my current pair, then hide at the corner of my cage. And whenever some robo go near her, she will scream and attack....
What shud i do now?... My intention for getting another pair is to split them up by sex... now ended up the new female robo in another cage alone...
HELP~~~

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sweat.gif Well, what do you expect. You suddenly pop your new robo into a tank that she can clearly smell belong to other robos.

What you can do, is change the shavings and clean the enclosure. Deodorize the whole thing by putting a lil vinegar on it then wash. If can, re-arrange all the items in it so it doesn't look like the old cage. Then dump your robos in and see how it goes.
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I also owned many hamster before but all died zor...sigh...i still remember i feed them french fries and carrot...hoho...


Added on August 23, 2008, 5:34 pmI also owned many hamster before but all died zor...sigh...i still remember i feed them french fries and carrot...hoho...

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i cant wait for the gathering! rclxm9.gif
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Oh well...Going to PetShack this coming monday..get some Habitrail ovo stuff and the nutri food and buy 1 female WW.
Hopefully got WW brows.gif
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Juz bought new hamster today... need to cfm if this hamter are panda campbell... pls advise...tq

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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:37 PM)
Juz bought new hamster today... need to cfm if this hamter are panda campbell... pls advise...tq

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omg..look cute
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 05:29 PM)
sweat.gif Well, what do you expect. You suddenly pop your new robo into a tank that she can clearly smell belong to other robos.

What you can do, is change the shavings and clean the enclosure. Deodorize the whole thing by putting a lil vinegar on it then wash. If can, re-arrange all the items in it so it doesn't look like the old cage. Then dump your robos in and see how it goes.
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I do put them in a new tank which i purposely bought for the sex seperation, but ended up my old robos wanted to play with the new robo, but the new robo tot others want to bully her, then i can see 3 robos constant running here and there in the new tank. sleep.gif|||
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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:37 PM)
Juz bought new hamster today... need to cfm if this hamter are panda campbell... pls advise...tq

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Hi mlinda~ wah, bought new hamsters. have to wait for jayniel to clarify the colours. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:37 PM)
Juz bought new hamster today... need to cfm if this hamter are panda campbell... pls advise...tq
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POISON~~~~
very cute, but i'm not really into huge size hamster... tongue.gif
still prefer my robos... wuahahaha... unless robos comes in panda... how gud it is....

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QUOTE(neshie @ Aug 23 2008, 06:40 PM)
Hi mlinda~ wah, bought new hamsters. have to wait for jayniel to clarify the colours. tongue.gif
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haha neshie... i remember ur nick... biggrin.gif .. hows ur hamster ? are they doing fine?
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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:42 PM)
haha neshie... i remember ur nick... biggrin.gif .. hows ur hamster ? are they doing fine?
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hello. hehe. left one only, my ww.
The syrians i pass back to crazymouse dy. Your syrians have REALLLY long fur.. wub.gif
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 23 2008, 06:41 PM)
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POISON~~~~
very cute, but i'm not really into huge size hamster... tongue.gif
still prefer my robos... wuahahaha... unless robos comes in panda... how gud it is....
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heyy... the size juz like robos... wait i'll show u.. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(neshie @ Aug 23 2008, 06:44 PM)
hello. hehe. left one only, my ww.
The syrians i pass back to crazymouse dy. Your syrians have REALLLY long fur..  wub.gif
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why..dont like long fur eh..? tongue.gif


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[/spoiler]
POISON~~~~
very cute, but i'm not really into huge size hamster... tongue.gif
still prefer my robos... wuahahaha... unless robos comes in panda... how gud it is....
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freezer,
i took this picture juz for u to compare btw this panda(not sure..is it really panda tongue.gif ).. and my robos..

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tadaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... notworthy.gif

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That 1 is a Syrian right ? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 23 2008, 07:26 PM)
That 1 is a Syrian right ? sweat.gif
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definately its not syrian.. i think its dwarf campbell/russian campbell panda type..

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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 07:34 PM)
definately its not syrian.. i think its dwarf campbell/russian campbell panda type..
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yakeh??...but it looks like Syrian..

cute... thumbup.gif
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guys, if i wan to exchange my robo, mine is boy boy then i wan to exchange it with female, where should i put the thread? thx.
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In garage sales I guess. WTExchange maybe?

Why wanna exchange?
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coz now 1 have 1 female and 1 male, then need 2 cage, i need to reduce it, coz my room so small, hikxxxxxxxxxx...


Added on August 23, 2008, 7:51 pmthen i dun really like boy boy, coz of the testicle, hehe...

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 23 2008, 07:39 PM)
yakeh??...but it looks like Syrian..

cute... thumbup.gif
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hahaha...maybe its color..
here is my sable banded syrian female.... looks same huh..

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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:46 PM)

why..dont like long fur eh..? tongue.gif


Added on August 23, 2008, 6:52 pm

freezer,
i took this picture juz for u to compare btw this panda(not sure..is it really panda  tongue.gif ).. and my robos..

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tadaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... notworthy.gif
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I love long fur. hehehe.

Wow, u dare to put together. haha. didn't fight?
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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:37 PM)
Juz bought new hamster today... need to cfm if this hamter are panda campbell... pls advise...tq

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even tho' they called it panda hamster, it is just a russian campbell.. the actual name of the color is mottled black..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 23 2008, 08:32 PM)
even tho' they called it panda hamster, it is just a russian campbell.. the actual name of the color is mottled black..
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ahh, our pro is here. tongue.gif
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

when u wanna breed your RC's oh? i love love looking at their picturess. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 07:55 PM)
hahaha...maybe its color..
here is my sable banded syrian female.... looks same huh..

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yea...quite same actually... hmm.gif

well...mine oso syrian..but mine is golden..

wish to have a grey color 1.. drool.gif but i dun have another cage..

this golden already cost me RM100++almost 200 ..(included cage bla bla) shakehead.gif

how old is ur syrian huh?... hmm.gif

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Just now try to introduce my WW male with WW female again.
This time i put a bar for seperator.
Then the 2 just licking each other mouth like want kissing or something.
Is it normal??

I still seperate them because i scare they r fighting.
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QUOTE(tina_yess @ Aug 23 2008, 07:46 PM)
guys, if i wan to exchange my robo, mine is boy boy then i wan to exchange it with female, where should i put the thread? thx.
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haha, i looking for one male robo, but not exchange smile.gif


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QUOTE(mlinda @ Aug 23 2008, 06:46 PM)
freezer,
i took this picture juz for u to compare btw this panda(not sure..is it really panda  tongue.gif ).. and my robos..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

tadaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... notworthy.gif
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Thanx for the comparison... rclxms.gif
Now i'm having headache on my old pair of robos and my new female robo.

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hikx... maybe we should exchange b4 u buy the female new comer, hehe..
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 23 2008, 10:06 PM)
haha, i looking for one male robo, but not exchange smile.gif


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Thanx for the comparison... rclxms.gif
Now i'm having headache on my old pair of robos and my new female robo.
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What's the prob? Still can't introduce?
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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Aug 23 2008, 12:35 PM)
if u buy all the stuff there and it is over rm88(if not wrong) they will giv u a free syrian~ smile.gif
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I see, I'll definitely consider getting one from pet shack then. smile.gif

QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 23 2008, 12:57 PM)
Hamster is very cheap especially for syrian but the accesories are expensive. Try to get good stuff for your hamster if you wanna give it the best since you only gonna to have 1 syrian. Get the 2ft tank and a good wheel. There is aroung RM100 already. Prepare about RM160-RM200 for everything, I'm talking about getting the best, will be slightly cheaper if you get cheap stuffs. Get all from Pet Shack I'll suggest to you as they are very reliable and their price is reasonable and their service is excellent.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif Smoothie is long term food, cost you RM10-12 per container and it last about 2 weeks for 1 syrian.
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Thanks for the price quotes. Must count money in my piggy bank now... biggrin.gif

I've been following the hamster thread in this forum for a month now and I've learned so much about hamsters. =D
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ahh, our pro is here. tongue.gif
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

when u wanna breed your RC's oh? i love love looking at their picturess.  rclxm9.gif
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aiyaa neshie... still young lahh..... biggrin.gif


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even tho' they called it panda hamster, it is just a russian campbell.. the actual name of the color is mottled black..
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thanks sifooo jayniel... i know the name molted but dont know why i'm forgot that name while saw at petshop... doh.gif

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@bytefreezer.. she just rehome today, better let her settle down first before introducing her to other hamsters.. she's been living with her sisters, therefore a sudden change of environment may stress her for a while.. just let her be on her own for the time being..

@mlinda.. not sifoo lar.. btw, it's mottled, not molted.. molted means change skin hehe..
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I notice my WW...when want to sleep he will push the bedding aside then sleep de wor. He dislike the bedding?
I think i'm using pine shaving as bedding, not sure thou...i asked the shop owner recommend and he gave me brown colour bedding.


Long time no 'yong' hamster le..forgot all the basic stuff. sweat.gif

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can i give those meat snack for dog to hams? just asking...
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Oh well...Going to PetShack this coming monday..get some Habitrail ovo stuff and the nutri food and buy 1 female WW.
Hopefully got WW  brows.gif
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Pet Shack not opened on Mondays smile.gif
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 23 2008, 11:04 PM)
I notice my WW...when want to sleep he will push the bedding aside then sleep de wor. He dislike the bedding?
I think i'm using pine shaving as bedding, not sure thou...i asked the shop owner recommend and he gave me brown colour bedding.
Long time no 'yong' hamster le..forgot all the basic stuff.  sweat.gif
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Well, think of it this way. Shavings are very warm. But the tank plastic or glass is cooling. So they pus shavings away when they're hot and gather shavings when they're cold.

Anyway, pine is bad for small animals. I suggest you not buy that brand agai. Get Chipsi Classic or chipsi super. sweat.gif And wood shavings of course is brown colour right.

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You serious?
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Errrr, yes, I am serious. Their opening hours are on their website.

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 11:25 PM)
Well, think of it this way. Shavings are very warm. But the tank plastic or glass is cooling. So they pus shavings away when they're hot and gather shavings when they're cold.
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Errrr, yes, I am serious. Their opening hours are on their website.
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Anyway, pine is bad for small animals. I suggest you not buy that brand agai. Get Chipsi Classic or chipsi super. sweat.gif And wood shavings of course is brown colour right.
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Mine its called Jeli Flock..some german brand i think.

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 23 2008, 11:04 PM)
I notice my WW...when want to sleep he will push the bedding aside then sleep de wor. He dislike the bedding?
I think i'm using pine shaving as bedding, not sure thou...i asked the shop owner recommend and he gave me brown colour bedding.
Long time no 'yong' hamster le..forgot all the basic stuff.  sweat.gif
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mayb they feel hot..plastic is cold than those bedding..

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 23 2008, 05:56 PM)
Oh well...Going to PetShack this coming monday..get some Habitrail ovo stuff and the nutri food and buy 1 female WW.
Hopefully got WW  brows.gif
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They closed on Monday. smile.gif

QUOTE(vivian_w @ Aug 23 2008, 10:25 PM)
I see, I'll definitely consider getting one from pet shack then.  smile.gif
Thanks for the price quotes. Must count money in my piggy bank now...  biggrin.gif

I've been following the hamster thread in this forum for a month now and I've learned so much about hamsters. =D
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That's very good that you did your research before you start to have your hamster as a newbie. We did a lot of reading also before buying our very first pair of robos. biggrin.gif All the best to you... thumbup.gif
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i just clean up my FuWa~ lol.. 5 babies
and take my 3 hours to clean up and move them to another cage with scare the mommy~
before move to the clean cage~
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OMG, so cute... adorable..
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 23 2008, 10:14 PM)
What's the prob? Still can't introduce?
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@bytefreezer.. she just rehome today, better let her settle down first before introducing her to other hamsters.. she's been living with her sisters, therefore a sudden change of environment may stress her for a while.. just let her be on her own for the time being..
@Jamien: yalo, still can't intro, she'll be paranoid and stay at the corner if i put them together in a tank with a splitter(i used the tank cover) in between.

@jayniel: hehe, by tat time u told me to put a splitter in between, i straight away start the constructions ady:), din see your subsequent msg. I did put her alone in the new tank after i brought her back from you, but she juz look not happy, the coat become wet and shivering on the wheel. After i put in other robos on the other side of the splitter, she looks better and start wondering around and sand bathing herself. Another thing -> If any buyer of her sisters or brothers FFK, do let me know smile.gif

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can hamsters eat tomato??
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 11:14 AM)
can hamsters eat tomato??
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cannot.
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this is my hamster s.she was sick for several days and yesterday she seems getting better when i was about going to sleep last night suddenly i felt like wanna take a look at her but i hear she 'squeking' and i took her out of cage and i can see something is wrong with her.i give her water while i'm holding her and suddenly she died in my hand.i got her almost 1 year now she's gone forever.i miss her very much cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Aug 24 2008, 12:56 PM)
this is my hamster s.she was sick for several days and yesterday she seems getting better when i was about going to sleep last night suddenly i felt like wanna take a look at her but i hear she 'squeking' and i took her out of cage and i can see something is wrong with her.i give her water while i'm holding her and suddenly she died in my hand.i got her almost 1 year now she's gone forever.i miss her very much  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Aug 24 2008, 12:56 PM)
this is my hamster s.she was sick for several days and yesterday she seems getting better when i was about going to sleep last night suddenly i felt like wanna take a look at her but i hear she 'squeking' and i took her out of cage and i can see something is wrong with her.i give her water while i'm holding her and suddenly she died in my hand.i got her almost 1 year now she's gone forever.i miss her very much  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Sorry to hear that.Rest In Peace hammy cry.gif
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RIP to your hammy.

Btw i just bumping my unanswered-question yesterday.



QUOTE(irkuysm @ Aug 23 2008, 09:33 PM)
Just now try to introduce my WW male with WW female again.
This time i put a bar for seperator.
Then the 2 just licking each other mouth like want kissing or something.
Is it normal??

I still seperate them because i scare they r fighting.
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QUOTE(irkuysm @ Aug 24 2008, 02:50 PM)
Btw i just bumping my unanswered-question yesterday.
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erm...last time mine robo also like tat...u hav to watch them when u put them together... once they gonna fight....pull them off..dun forget to wear glove,clean up and make a new design the cage .. lol... if really diehard fight..better separate them,this is wat i do...at last they been together~ thumbup.gif

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Recently my WW like to bite on the cage bar.. how to avoid this? sad.gif
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QUOTE(mpoo @ Aug 24 2008, 03:18 PM)
Recently my WW like to bite on the cage bar.. how to avoid this?  sad.gif
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cant avoid unless u change to tanks biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mpoo @ Aug 24 2008, 03:18 PM)
Recently my WW like to bite on the cage bar.. how to avoid this?  sad.gif
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maybe your hamster out of fear,it does not want to live in cage so you better take it out of cage for sometime. don't keep it hungry for long maybe can also be one of the reasons. this is what i had read from the net. but mine i bought chewing bar for them then problem solve~ brows.gif
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QUOTE(mpoo @ Aug 24 2008, 03:18 PM)
Recently my WW like to bite on the cage bar.. how to avoid this?  sad.gif
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CAnt be avoid.Some PRO have use the stick but failed.
Change to tank or non-bar home for your hammie.
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 24 2008, 03:19 PM)
cant avoid unless u change to tanks biggrin.gif
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aiks.. It only happened recently.. shakehead.gif
Usually how many inches of running wheel should WW have?


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maybe your hamster out of fear,it does not want to live in cage so you better take it out of cage for sometime. don't keep it hungry for long maybe can also be one of the reasons. this is what i had read from the net. but mine i bought chewing bar for them then problem solve~  brows.gif
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haha.. i used to take him out from the cage everyday and spend a few minutes to play with him. biggrin.gif
which type of chewing bar u bought for your hamster?

QUOTE(irkuysm @ Aug 24 2008, 03:27 PM)
CAnt be avoid.Some PRO have use the stick but failed.
Change to tank or non-bar home for your hammie.
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wow.. need to change home for them again.. cry.gif
I bought CritterTrail X for him.. it cost me RM150++ already..

hmm.. mind me to ask what stick do the PRO used? hmm.gif

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The stick or chew bar mentioned is basically a chew toy. wooden chew sticks and those like that.

You can try using it but it does not necessary solve your problem. If your hamster is only teething then providing a chew toy can help solve the problem.

But if your hamster is chewing because it likes the taste of metal, like many hamsters do, then it cannot be solved with a chew toy. Only changing to a tank will solve your problem.

biggrin.gif BTW, Roche had her first heat yesterday. I took her out of the cage and plopped her on my brother's shoulder yesterday night. Then he was stroking her when he said "something smells bad". Roche never smelt bad so I picked her up and smelled her. Then there was a horrid musty smell... It stuck on my hands even after i wash with detergent.

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 03:54 PM)
The stick or chew bar mentioned is basically a chew toy. wooden chew sticks and those like that.

You can try using it but it does not necessary solve your problem. If your hamster is only teething then providing a chew toy can help solve the problem.

But if your hamster is chewing because it likes the taste of metal, like many hamsters do, then it cannot be solved with a chew toy. Only changing to a tank will solve your problem.

biggrin.gif BTW, Roche had her first heat yesterday. I took her out of the cage and plopped her on my brother's shoulder yesterday night. Then he was stroking her when he said "something smells bad". Roche never smelt bad so I picked her up and smelled her. Then there was a horrid musty smell... It stuck on my hands even after i wash with detergent.
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ya i agree.. those chewing stones are of no use.. they'll still bite the cage bars cos it taste better than the chewing stone/wood..

btw, try this method: put a stainless steel spoon in the cage.. hamsters like the taste of steel, so they will bite the spoon instead.. it could prevent the cage-biting habit.. i said 'could' cos not all hamsters are the same.. some may work but some may not.. i forgot this method was taught by who ady.. was it crazymouse? hmm.gif

@Jamien, the smell really stuck on ur hand ar? hmm.. that's kinda troublesome if cant be washed off..
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I wonder what will happen if you put your hand inside a tank full of MALE Syrian... brows.gif

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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 24 2008, 04:24 PM)
I wonder what will happen if you put your hand inside a tank full of MALE Syrian... brows.gif
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Should have tried it on ferro last night. laugh.gif

@janiel: yes it is troublesome and smelly. but it wore off in the morning. thank god!
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I bet he will love your hand more than ever tongue.gif
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i tried it before
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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 24 2008, 04:24 PM)
I wonder what will happen if you put your hand inside a tank full of MALE Syrian... brows.gif
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Tried before as the males will come closer to smell and lick the hand where the smell is the strongest.

Licking will actually arouse the female to stop and raise her tail for the male to mate with her. Females will also stop and raise her tail when you lightly touch her sides when she is on heat laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

This is also a good oportunity to take good pics as the female has froze in place. And she will freeze for a long time tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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sweat.gif Then the female will be waiting and waiting while thinking, "come on... What's taking you so long..." laugh.gif


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As for tomato....

NO!

Tomato is also another fruit poisonous to most animals except humans and some others. Like chocolate, garlic, onion.

Arn't we humans lucky? XD


Added on August 24, 2008, 5:14 pmBy the way,.I discovered something alarming. I bought this hamster sand for the ham to bathe a long time ago in Pet Safari...

It's kinda dull light brown and said for hamster. It's nto dusty, so it's fine.

then I noticed that when it touched water it kinda clumped up into packs of sand that you can break apart.

I didn't suspect anything wrong until I remembered about cat clumping sand from the cat topic.

and I went "ZOMG What if they cheat me and sell me cat litter instead???"

How is REAL hamster bath sand supposed to be like?

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eh, I have been reading hamster thread for awhile now (actually I followed the entire v9) but I still confuse.. I want to ask something..
toilet sand and bath sand what different?
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eh, I have been reading hamster thread for awhile now (actually I followed the entire v9) but I still confuse.. I want to ask something..
toilet sand and bath sand what different?
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smile.gif Toilet sand is for hamsters to pee ad poo in. It's rougher and slightly bigger than bathing sand.

Bathing sand is for hamsters to roll in and clean their fur. It's very fine and might even smell nice since it has various flavors.
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Recently my WW like to bite on the cage bar.. how to avoid this?  sad.gif
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smile.gif Toilet sand is for hamsters to pee ad poo in. It's rougher and slightly bigger than bathing sand.

Bathing sand is for hamsters to roll in and clean their fur. It's very fine and might even smell nice since it has various flavors.
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Hehe, my robos will juz simply poo or pee on any sand they encounter. smile.gif Then they will still bath on the same sand until they think the sand is really dirty to bath with.

MY NEW FEMALE ROBO STAT: Calming down at the corner of the tank.
MY OLD ROBOS: Sleeping on the other side of the splitter... so far.
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Meaning you need to put both kind of sand in the cage/tank? Or just the toilet sand, and the bathing sand put in once few days to let them roll tongue.gif

LOL your robos pee on the bath sand, and bath with it, then will they have pee smell on their body?
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 24 2008, 05:29 PM)
Meaning you need to put both kind of sand in the cage/tank? Or just the toilet sand, and the bathing sand put in once few days to let them roll tongue.gif

LOL your robos pee on the bath sand, and bath with it, then will they have pee smell on their body?
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You will need to toilet sand in the tanks most of the time than the sand bath.

Some hamster don't sand bath. Syrians won't roll in the sand bath but will pee and poo in it. Robos will roll in the sand bath also pee and poo. Not sure about WW and RC though as I never had them for pets before.

So it's better to give them sand bath once in a while. No need to put both in the tank.
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My robos poo in the toilet sand and bath in the bathing sand. Fat Fat seems to have found the difference and everyone follows her. hmm.gif

Anyway, for syrians you only need toilet sand. for dwarves must have both lo. It's recommended that you leave the bathing sand for them whenever you change their shavings and take it out after half an hour or less.

wub.gif But my robos loved bathing sand so much I had to leave it in. They will all mogok and jump into bathing sand bowl when I try to remove it from the tank.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 05:06 PM)
sweat.gif Then the female will be waiting and waiting while thinking, "come on... What's taking you so long..." laugh.gif
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Yes the female will freeze in position with her tail up waiting for the male to mate. If the male is a noobie to mating then it will take some time for him to learn. Very funny when we heard from Nezu when she mate her Brownie with a younger male. He didn't know what to do for a few hours laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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for russian campbell & winter white, some of them will bathe in the bath sand while some wont.. i notice that if the mother loves to sand bath, most of the babies will follow suit.. but for others, it's very hard for me to train them.. but it should be ok, since their fur wont be as oily as robos..

anyone trained their hamster to sand bath before?
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 24 2008, 04:59 PM)
Tried before as the males will come closer to smell and lick the hand where the smell is the strongest.

Licking will actually arouse the female to stop and raise her tail for the male to mate with her. Females will also stop and raise her tail when you lightly touch her sides when she is on heat laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

This is also a good oportunity to take good pics as the female has froze in place. And she will freeze for a long time tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I got video of my hamsters having a good time. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 24 2008, 04:59 PM)
Tried before as the males will come closer to smell and lick the hand where the smell is the strongest.

Licking will actually arouse the female to stop and raise her tail for the male to mate with her. Females will also stop and raise her tail when you lightly touch her sides when she is on heat laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

This is also a good oportunity to take good pics as the female has froze in place. And she will freeze for a long time tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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but my girls dont seem to care, they dont freeze when i stroke them when on heat - -
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 24 2008, 05:39 PM)
You will need to toilet sand in the tanks most of the time than the sand bath.

Some hamster don't sand bath. Syrians won't roll in the sand bath but will pee and poo in it. Robos will roll in the sand bath also pee and poo. Not sure about WW and RC though as I never had them for pets before.

So it's better to give them sand bath once in a while. No need to put both in the tank.
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You mean mixing the toilet sand with the bedding?
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but my girls dont seem to care, they dont freeze when i stroke them when on heat - -
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Maybe you're stroking them wrongly... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Put the sand into a bowl and put into the tank ler.. hehe tongue.gif

I know bathing sand, seen it. But never really seen a toilet sand before.. hmm..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 24 2008, 05:51 PM)
for russian campbell & winter white, some of them will bathe in the bath sand while some wont.. i notice that if the mother loves to sand bath, most of the babies will follow suit.. but for others, it's very hard for me to train them.. but it should be ok, since their fur wont be as oily as robos..

anyone trained their hamster to sand bath before?
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at first i tot my WW doesnt sand bath but then i realize it only does it when I'm not around (far away from her tank) laugh.gif

It poos in the bathing sand but doesnt pee there
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I know my WW poops and pees practically anywhere because I can't find any specific spot. Anywhere she stays eventually will have poop. Can poop while walking also. The majority of the poop are in places where she sleeps, basically the wheel and the house doh.gif

Most of the time she just rolls in the sand, but I took it out just to confirm wether or not it IS the right sand in the first place and not some cat litter.

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Which water bottle is suitable for habitrail mini, because the mushroom is not the best option -.-
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 24 2008, 05:59 PM)
Maybe you're stroking them wrongly...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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tongue.gif i think so.

plus i will be pokai this saturday during gathering, need to restock so many things doh.gif

my boy which likes vitacraft but my girls like prestige, gosh.. blink.gif
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 24 2008, 06:38 PM)
tongue.gif i think so.

plus i will be pokai this saturday during gathering, need to restock so many things doh.gif

my boy which likes vitacraft but my girls like prestige, gosh.. blink.gif
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I know. Just restock yesterday at petshack and bought some stuffs for Nezu's babies already RM170+. Some more next week Saturday need to get abit more stuffs.

You can try to mix the vitacraft and prestige and see if they like it or not. Currently am mixing prestige and harry hamster for all our hamsters and fat tail.
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 24 2008, 06:42 PM)
I know. Just restock yesterday at petshack and bought some stuffs for Nezu's babies already RM170+. Some more next week Saturday need to get abit more stuffs.

You can try to mix the vitacraft and prestige and see if they like it or not. Currently am mixing prestige and harry hamster for all our hamsters and fat tail.
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i try for a month, he choose vitacraft and left prestige in the bowl shakehead.gif

and my girls the other way round, haha laugh.gif
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wah so choosy one.

i also need to go to petshack and get a 1.5ft tank for my ww. Looks like i hv to buy a normal wheel coz no money XD
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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 24 2008, 07:04 PM)
wah so choosy one.

i also need to go to petshack and get a 1.5ft tank for my ww. Looks like i hv to buy a normal wheel coz no money XD
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in 1 day time, the food left half only sweat.gif
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anyone here using Habitrail cage? I hear the quality of the cage is bad for its price. And some other things like the tower doesn't have proper ventilation?

What cages do you guys use? I'm just using a plastic container now...lol
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 24 2008, 07:31 PM)
anyone here using Habitrail cage? I hear the quality of the cage is bad for its price. And some other things like the tower doesn't have proper ventilation?

What cages do you guys use? I'm just using a plastic container now...lol
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Well habitrail tanks are not good for syrians. Could be use as temporary tanks though. Currently there are people who use 2 feet guppy tanks, storage boxes, glass aquariums, etc... What kind of hamsters do you have?
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 24 2008, 07:31 PM)
anyone here using Habitrail cage? I hear the quality of the cage is bad for its price. And some other things like the tower doesn't have proper ventilation?

What cages do you guys use? I'm just using a plastic container now...lol
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i 'm using habitrail OVO..

yea i agree with that.. cry.gif

there is only 1 good thing bout it..nice looking... shakehead.gif

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I have one question.Why my hamsters fight but they sleep together???

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QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 24 2008, 09:14 PM)
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gosh, syrians are solitary lar.
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Those are syrians. Please, please, please know that Syrians can never be housed together.

They sleep together because they have no choice. Just because they sleep like that doesn't mean they're happy. Imagine a bunch of prisoners...sleep together but they don't like who they sleep with.


Added on August 24, 2008, 9:19 pmTell this to everyone YOU meet...NEVER house two syrians (the big hamsters) together. Haiyoh, why so cha wan our malaysian education doh.gif

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sweat.gif Iv'e ask the seller can house a pair she say's can can.Aiyooo
will buy a new tank as soon as i have enough money.Right now one of them have to put in box.But now only have 1 wheel,what to do? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 24 2008, 09:14 PM)
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It's actually very simple. They sleep together because it is cold and huddling together is warmer. And they fight because they're syrians and they don't like each other. Syrians are solitary by nature. Just because they sleep together doesn't mean they need or want to be with each other. If there were other places your syrians could go, they would not be together but you force them to be together when you house them together.

To avoid injury and possibly death, please separate your syrians soon.

hmm.gif Just curious but who told you syrians can live together?
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I bet it's some small petshop that can cheat people with kokocrunch tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 09:36 PM)
It's actually very simple. They sleep together because it is cold and huddling together is warmer. And they fight because they're syrians and they don't like each other. Syrians are solitary by nature. Just because they sleep together doesn't mean they need or want to be with each other. If there were other places your syrians could go, they would not be together but you force them to be together when you house them together.

To avoid injury and possibly death, please separate your syrians soon.

hmm.gif Just curious but who told you syrians can live together?
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it's a shop in sec 17.When my mom says want to buy 1 pair she doesnt say anything.So i ask her is it ok to house 1 pair syrians,then she nod nod.
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She want to sell more of course she say so tongue.gif Maybe she herself don't know tongue.gif
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Most people don't know wan la, they thought all animals are like puppies, bunnies and kitties who enjoy company tongue.gif
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I also think like that.The shop keeper went to hospital cause his wife 'bersalin'.
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QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 24 2008, 09:39 PM)
it's a shop in sec 17.When my mom says want to buy 1 pair she doesnt say anything.So i ask her is it ok to house 1 pair syrians,then she nod nod.
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Well, as I mentioned earlier, cages, they can keep for a long time. Syrians, no one wants them when they get older so must clear off fast. They'd tell you anything to sell more so they don't rugi.

If you think properly, she isn't exactly lying. You asked her if they can be housed together. Petshops house them together. It can be done. But the syrians are not happy like that and are under a lot of stress when they're housed together. It frequently leads to fighting, injury, disease, death when housed together.

So can they be housed together? Why, yes. But if you want your syrians to survive, not get hurt and be happy and not kill each other, no you can't house them together.
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QUOTE(soul_star @ Aug 24 2008, 09:39 PM)
it's a shop in sec 17.When my mom says want to buy 1 pair she doesnt say anything.So i ask her is it ok to house 1 pair syrians,then she nod nod.
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She will say that lar because she dotn want to rugi.You know the cost to care for a syrian more expensive then selling it?Thats why they will cheat on u just to make profit.
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 07:38 PM)
i 'm using habitrail OVO..

yea i agree with that.. cry.gif

there is only 1 good thing bout it..nice looking... shakehead.gif
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Me also using wad...i tot its good for my WW but regretted. My WW run in the wheel so susah, very heavy like tat.
Now thinking of getting a normal wheel and house for my WW. Take out the habitrail ovo de wheel and stairs.
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So now im collecting my money to buy a new tank and some more accessories.Oh yea,how you guys make your hammy fat fat???
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Feed a lot of vege and fruits. But make a slow introduction lar so that your hamsters don't get diarrhea.

Feeding Uncle Taro's nutri-smoothie also helps make hamsters chubby.

hmm.gif I notice that good quality dry food also helps them gain weight.
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How long you ever left the hamster alone? Is it ok to leave them alone few days with lots of dry food supply? And water of course..?
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Yeah, it's ok. Just don't give wet food supply can liao.

I've left my hamster alone for about a week before, still lots of food not eaten lol!

Bottle too of course, 1 full bottle can last a long time but not very healthy...just use it to water your plants or something.

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Thank you for your answer, need to clear off some of my doubt before getting them tongue.gif
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Then again I think my dad poured a tupperware sized amount for the week for a WW so it's not surprising.

Syrians generally eat double of dwarfs by the way.
And if you leave some hams too long they forget about you so keep that in mind. Make sure it still recognizes your smell before you start playing with it again.
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I left my hams for about 4 days and left them 2 bowls worth of dry food each with a full bottle of water. They survived ok and still recognized me when I came home.
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"Forget about you" haha.. then have to start taming them again.. tongue.gif Not a bad idea just to put MORE dry food for them, just in case they are too hungry one day LOL
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How you guys play with your hamsters?
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I generally scoop up my hamster with the food bowl, or get my mom to catch it (my hamster is a really slinky thing...she slips my grasp)...

And then I'll pet her to death laugh.gif

My parents will take turns petting her and letting her walk on our hands. Since she is hard to catch, we just cup her in our hands most of the time.

Hamsters will usually keep moving and wiggle out. Very soft, and very fun laugh.gif

I used to have a hamster tame enough to run everywhere without getting lost, and never bites. It was a syrian though, bigger and less quick.

Bean, the hamster, doesn't like to be out of the tank for long though. I can actually feel her heartrate and breathing shooting through the roof in my hands and sometimes she'll nip...so we will then put her back.


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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 24 2008, 09:54 PM)
Me also using wad...i tot its good for my WW but regretted. My WW run in the wheel so susah, very heavy like tat.
Now thinking of getting a normal wheel and house for my WW. Take out the habitrail ovo de wheel and stairs.
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well...actually i feel the wheel is quite good..smooth & quiet..

i 'm jus not very happy v that house(tat hole)..hard to watch our hammie.. shakehead.gif

mayb ur WW are not big enough..when they are big mayb 'll be better.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 24 2008, 07:37 PM)
Well habitrail tanks are not good for syrians. Could be use as temporary tanks though. Currently there are people who use 2 feet guppy tanks, storage boxes, glass aquariums, etc... What kind of hamsters do you have?
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I have a Winter Normal hamster...whatever that means...coz I can't find them online.
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How you guys play with your hamsters?
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this is an interesting question... i play with my hamster everyday, there is no time to get bored, coz everytime they will show their cuteness...
for ww, i will let him go out from cage, put in my bed, then let him explore my room (make sure there is no hole/wire)
for my robo, will put my hand as a ladder for them to walk..
wakakka.. love them berry much..
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@aeon: I think that just means you have winter white hamsters. Pet shops like to create fancy names.

@soul: Well, I just get my hamsters to climb on my hand. That step is very important because that probably determines how tame your hamster is. Then when they get on my hand, I just pet them and brush them with a toothbrush. I am still trying to get them to do tricks but Roche don't get anything besides "hang" and Ferro just looks at the treat. sweat.gif
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LOOK at the treat?! XD

That is pure lulz, Jamien. Pure lulz. I've not met a single hamster who just look at a treat.
Until you mentioned about your Ferro


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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 10:42 PM)
well...actually i feel the wheel is quite good..smooth & quiet..

i 'm jus not very happy v that house(tat hole)..hard to watch our hammie.. shakehead.gif

mayb ur WW are not big enough..when they are big mayb 'll be better.. sweat.gif
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Yea..hate the house..Btw, i removed the stairs also, no point putting coz he cant climb. shakehead.gif
So i will remove the food container to peek on him then put back..lol thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 24 2008, 11:04 PM)
Yea..hate the house..Btw, i removed the stairs also, no point putting coz he cant climb. shakehead.gif
So i will remove the food container to peek on him then put back..lol  thumbup.gif
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i removed that house too..n the food container..put it in when she wake..

if not she go there & sleep doh.gif

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I'm using a habitrail playground for 2 of my robos now, so far not much problematic except the cage comes with extra iron for my robos. tongue.gif They always like to climb up and chew on those metal bars... now i use some 1.5inches width plastic card to block them from climbing up.

But for habitrail mini, IMO, i think it's not very practical. First of all, the mushroom water bottle... and the hanging wheel... etc... You ask me run on a hanging wheel, i also die lo, dun mention bout hamster. tongue.gif
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Well, I keep telling him "stand" while dangling the treat a little above him. He just stays very still and stares at the treat.
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Does smoothie helps a lots if i wana pump my hammie.. hmm.gif

& is there a big diff if i give her worms but smoothie..
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 11:13 PM)
Does smoothie helps a lots if i wana pump my hammie.. hmm.gif

& is there a big diff if i give her worms but smoothie..
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lolz interesting ques.. giving worms & smoothie will make the hammie fat & chubby..
but what's the difference? answer is, giving mealworms alone is like u eating fried chicken all the time, will become fat but wont be healthy..
therefore, mealworm is only an extra(give 4-5 mealworm per day is enough).. smoothie must come first.. with smoothie + good dry food, ur hamster will lead a good life..
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 11:08 PM)
i removed that house too..n the food container..put it in when she wake..

if not she go there & sleep doh.gif
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Whenever i take out the food container then he will look at me... then he run go sand bathing then back house sleep.
He always like that..before sleep then go sand bathing only sleep.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 11:12 PM)
Well, I keep telling him "stand" while dangling the treat a little above him. He just stays very still and stares at the treat.
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i somehow feel that syrians are more interactive with humans compared to dwarfs.. am i right?
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 24 2008, 11:11 PM)
I'm using a habitrail playground for 2 of my robos now, so far not much problematic except the cage comes with extra iron for my robos. tongue.gif They always like to climb up and chew on those metal bars... now i use some 1.5inches width plastic card to block them from climbing up.

But for habitrail mini, IMO, i think it's not very practical. First of all, the mushroom water bottle... and the hanging wheel... etc... You ask me run on a hanging wheel, i also die lo, dun mention bout hamster. tongue.gif
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what's wrong with running on a hanging wheel?
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haha.. the hanging wheel quite noisy tongue.gif btw whats a best option to replace the mushroommm?
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 24 2008, 11:27 PM)
haha.. the hanging wheel quite noisy tongue.gif btw whats a best option to replace the mushroommm?
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how bout normal water bottle? can rite..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 24 2008, 11:24 PM)
i somehow feel that syrians are more interactive with humans compared to dwarfs.. am i right?
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Lol, if you mean in an amusing way.

Dwarves can only be handled for a period of time each day. Most of them aren't very comfortable with humans petting them too much.

Syrians are ok with it frequent handling. blush.gif But I have a better time teaching Pastel tricks than my Roche and Ferro.
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guys, my robo drink a lot, really a lot, is it ok?
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 24 2008, 11:22 PM)
lolz interesting ques.. giving worms & smoothie will make the hammie fat & chubby..
but what's the difference? answer is, giving mealworms alone is like u eating fried chicken all the time, will become fat but wont be healthy..
therefore, mealworm is only an extra(give 4-5 mealworm per day is enough).. smoothie must come first.. with smoothie + good dry food, ur hamster will lead a good life..
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ic..just wana know if smoothie help.ok then..

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Mine seems like doesn't drink AT ALL doh.gif
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Well it depends on how hot the enclosure is for your hams.

When my robos were placed outdoors, they drank a lot. Robos tend to sweat a lot. So they need to drink a lot. When they lived indoors, they drink less.
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 24 2008, 11:28 PM)
how bout normal water bottle? can rite..
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I kept my Habitrail Mini somewhere in the store room, need to dig it out doh.gif So I don't know which size of bottle suits more... any idea?
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A small 100 ml bottle is more than enough. Just get one that doesn't leak ok? Or the one that comes with habitrail cages is good too.

smile.gif Basically small size bottles lar.

tongue.gif BTW what breed are you interested to get?
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I was using a habitrail mini, i took virtually everything out and used the cage itself only. i used a normal water bottle (metal tip with the ball thing inside) and hung it from the top of the cage. I got a safari wheel from Sangels, it was all fine, until they started to have fun squeezing behind the bars and knocking the wheel down, most of the time on each other... lol...

So now i'm on the hunt for a new cage, aiming for a 2 story cage with plastic bottom and platform. Also looking for another wheel... lol


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Why don't you just get a tank criollo? shakehead.gif The sound and habit of them chewing bars are so unpleasant.

Anyway, a guy just put some RC hamsters up for adoption. Anyone interested can go have a look.
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Why when i wanna play with my hamster i took her out then i let it run freely but it looked like want to escape,im worried if one day i give him to run freely she will escape.I put my hand also she dont climb up cry.gif
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Well, that's part of taming. smile.gif It just doesn't happen overnight, soul. Give her some time. She doesn't know you yet.

Put some food on your hand and try to tempt her to get on your hand. make sure you keep your hand very still. When she gets used to climbing on your hand for food, try to move it a little higher. When she panics, let her go back into her cage. And try the not moving hand thing again.

Love = patience + sacrifice.

Patience will yield a good result. Patience is a virtue. Understand that your hamster will get freaked out by a giant hand right?
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 03:54 PM)
The stick or chew bar mentioned is basically a chew toy. wooden chew sticks and those like that.

You can try using it but it does not necessary solve your problem. If your hamster is only teething then providing a chew toy can help solve the problem.

But if your hamster is chewing because it likes the taste of metal, like many hamsters do, then it cannot be solved with a chew toy. Only changing to a tank will solve your problem.

biggrin.gif BTW, Roche had her first heat yesterday. I took her out of the cage and plopped her on my brother's shoulder yesterday night. Then he was stroking her when he said "something smells bad". Roche never smelt bad so I picked her up and smelled her. Then there was a horrid musty smell... It stuck on my hands even after i wash with detergent.
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Wow!! First heat!! rclxms.gif But will it be a bit late for Roche to have her first heat as she is more than 3 months old by old? hmm.gif Our Kiko is having her first heat when she is about 4 weeks old if I don't remember wrongly. Maybe she is having her heat before and you didn't notice yet. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 24 2008, 04:24 PM)
I wonder what will happen if you put your hand inside a tank full of MALE Syrian... brows.gif
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The male will never bite you but lick you non stop. laugh.gif

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sweat.gif  Iv'e ask the seller can house a pair she say's can can.Aiyooo
will buy a new tank as soon as i have enough money.Right now one of them have to put in box.But now only have 1 wheel,what to do? sweat.gif
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You better be fast to save enough to buy another tank before you no need to buy another one.

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guys, my robo drink a lot, really a lot, is it ok?
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 11:34 PM)
ic..just wana know if smoothie help.ok then..
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YES! The Nutri Smoothie help a lot. Can see from all my syrians. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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I kept my Habitrail Mini somewhere in the store room, need to dig it out  doh.gif  So I don't know which size of bottle suits more... any idea?
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The 100mls bottle with the connector which can hang the bottle on the Habitrail cage bar.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 11:43 PM)
A small 100 ml bottle is more than enough. Just get one that doesn't leak ok? Or the one that comes with habitrail cages is good too.

smile.gif Basically small size bottles lar.

tongue.gif BTW what breed are you interested to get?
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Still thinking if I really want to get dwarf hammies hmm.gif Because I am waiting fatsoso too, if there will be a future batch (of course not putting fatso in the habitrail mini laugh.gif ) Considering robos.. I know they are quick, but they are the only species that likes to be in group..
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 24 2008, 11:57 PM)
Still thinking if I really want to get dwarf hammies  hmm.gif  Because I am waiting fatsoso too, if there will be a future batch (of course not putting fatso in the habitrail mini  laugh.gif ) Considering robos.. I know they are quick, but they are the only species that likes to be in group..
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then get those that are tamed brows.gif
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 24 2008, 11:57 PM)
Still thinking if I really want to get dwarf hammies  hmm.gif  Because I am waiting fatsoso too, if there will be a future batch (of course not putting fatso in the habitrail mini  laugh.gif ) Considering robos.. I know they are quick, but they are the only species that likes to be in group..
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blush.gif If you like to pet and cuddle your hamster, I suggest you get a syrian.

Dwarves like robos are small and quick. They're harder to tame and are more challenging. happy.gif But feels very satisfying whn you tame them enough to all climb into your hand at one time.
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Hahaha... they tamed on your hand, will tame on other ppl hand?


Added on August 25, 2008, 12:04 amsyrian need to queue.. I want real chubby one, then only nice to cuddle.. oh, I think my dogs are better in this LOL..

I know robos are quick, I played with them before at the petshop -.- I can't even hold them properly, keep running only..

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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 25 2008, 12:02 AM)
Hahaha... they tamed on your hand, will tame on other ppl hand?

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She means robos, ander. My hand tamed robos are usually ok with strangers but will be more cautious then when I handle them myself.

Of course getting a fatsoso is good but other syrians don't hurt either. happy.gif I don't regret getting my Ferro and Roche. If you can't wait then get from pet shack.

And I'm quite sure yesterday was Roche's first heat. I handle her everyday and that's the first time I smell something that bad from her. shakehead.gif
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Nvm.. I also not urgent LOL.. I go petshack also have to think left think right.. I am in Pahang right now leh laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 12:10 AM)
She means robos, ander. My hand tamed robos are usually ok with strangers but will be more cautious then when I handle them myself.

Of course getting a fatsoso is good but other syrians don't hurt either. happy.gif I don't regret getting my Ferro and Roche. If you can't wait then get from pet shack.

And I'm quite sure yesterday was Roche's first heat. I handle her everyday and that's the first time I smell something that bad from her. shakehead.gif
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I remember I read somewhere and Hun has said that in about 4 weeks females will have their first heat. Maybe you didn't smell it when she had her first? Or something wrong with Roche till until 3 months old only have heat? Better bring to vet if like that sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 12:10 AM)
She means robos, ander. My hand tamed robos are usually ok with strangers but will be more cautious then when I handle them myself.

Of course getting a fatsoso is good but other syrians don't hurt either. happy.gif I don't regret getting my Ferro and Roche. If you can't wait then get from pet shack.

And I'm quite sure yesterday was Roche's first heat. I handle her everyday and that's the first time I smell something that bad from her. shakehead.gif
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WOW! Surprisingly late to have first heat at 4 months old... shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif That's a new record in hamster's world.... wink.gif LOL... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 12:10 AM)
She means robos, ander. My hand tamed robos are usually ok with strangers but will be more cautious then when I handle them myself.

Of course getting a fatsoso is good but other syrians don't hurt either. happy.gif I don't regret getting my Ferro and Roche. If you can't wait then get from pet shack.

And I'm quite sure yesterday was Roche's first heat. I handle her everyday and that's the first time I smell something that bad from her. shakehead.gif
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oh oh.. i still blur

i think earlier heats, the odour not very musky kut blink.gif blink.gif

mine girls is like that wor, now is getting more and more musky, 3 steps away also can smell brows.gif
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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 25 2008, 12:18 AM)
oh oh.. i still blur

i think earlier heats, the odour not very musky kut blink.gif  blink.gif

mine girls is like that wor, now is getting more and more musky, 3 steps away also can smell brows.gif
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sweat.gif That's not encouraging. Maybe lar I missed her first heat. Cuz yesterday's smells reqally bad... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 12:22 AM)
sweat.gif That's not encouraging. Maybe lar I missed her first heat. Cuz yesterday's smells reqally bad...  shakehead.gif
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They won't smell too bad if you didn't smell them closely within 3cm. The smell will go bad if you stroke her when she is on heat. Real bad smell. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 12:22 AM)
sweat.gif That's not encouraging. Maybe lar I missed her first heat. Cuz yesterday's smells reqally bad...  shakehead.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif just to lighten the mood...

now roche is big girl jor


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They won't smell too bad if you didn't smell them closely within 3cm. The smell will go bad if you stroke her when she is on heat. Real bad smell.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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they tend to get excited with the strokings

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How long once, they on heat?

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Hmm... I handle my Button everyday... Bt i cant smell anything...
I stroke her also she wont freeze......
However, my fren always said i gt bad nose, cant smell thing.....
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I keep my Hamsters in my room, so i sorta need the ventilation (or is it ok? @@) plus the old aquarium i have is too big. Its abit hard to find standing wheels in Penang so i'm not sure how to place a wheel inside. Also those two like to climb on the wires, so i tot they kinda enjoyed the wires @@.
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 25 2008, 12:30 AM)
How long once, they on heat?
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They will have their heat every 4 days and it only last for one day.

QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 25 2008, 12:31 AM)
Hmm... I handle my Button everyday... Bt i cant smell anything...
I stroke her also she wont freeze......
However, my fren always said i gt bad nose, cant smell thing.....
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Hmm... maybe you should consult an ENT doctor, bad nose to the extend can't smell anything is dangerous, will not know the food whether spoiled or still good... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Heat every 4 days? OMG so frequent?
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diabetes...What are the symptoms? Bean also drinks for a long, loooooooooooooong time.
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Recently my WW like to bite on the cage bar.. how to avoid this?  sad.gif
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 24 2008, 05:15 PM)
eh, I have been reading hamster thread for awhile now (actually I followed the entire v9) but I still confuse.. I want to ask something..
toilet sand and bath sand what different?
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bath sand - more fine, more expensive
toilet sand - bigger, n cheaper.

if u use bath sand as toilet.. the sand is too fine, once its moist. it can become very sticky. also its too expensive to use and toilet sand. smile.gif

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I have one question.Why my hamsters fight but they sleep together???
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yes syriam do fight then sleep together. but they also can kill eash others, so better u seperate them.. before too late.

QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 24 2008, 10:04 PM)
Feed a lot of vege and fruits. But make a slow introduction lar so that your hamsters don't get diarrhea.

Feeding Uncle Taro's nutri-smoothie also helps make hamsters chubby.

hmm.gif I notice that good quality dry food also helps them gain weight.
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good quality dry food do help the syrian gaint weight, compare to lousy brand food. but dry food will never work better than fresh on hamster smile.gif ( a balanced fresh)

QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 24 2008, 11:13 PM)
Does smoothie helps a lots if i wana pump my hammie.. hmm.gif

& is there a big diff if i give her worms but smoothie..
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basicaly, smoothie is a BALANCED FRESH DIET. means its veges and fruits, which is in the balanced potion. u will get a chubby n healthy hamster. n never overweight.

mealies contain protein n FAT, FAT is what we don't want.. feeding too much will get an obese hammi. n the nutrition is now in balanced smile.gif

QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 24 2008, 11:35 PM)
Mine seems like doesn't drink AT ALL doh.gif
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if u feeding fresh. ur hammi will not drink so much to not drinking smile.gif

QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 12:22 AM)
sweat.gif That's not encouraging. Maybe lar I missed her first heat. Cuz yesterday's smells reqally bad...  shakehead.gif
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they not sooooo smelly lah Jamien, guess u miss her heat smile.gif now my whole room also on heat.. no small also hehe.. i playw ith them.. but don't feel my hand is smelly smile.gif


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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 25 2008, 12:53 AM)
diabetes...What are the symptoms? Bean also drinks for a long, loooooooooooooong time.
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drink alot, pee alot, then lost weight..

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 25 2008, 12:56 AM)
get a tank is the best smile.gif
bath sand - more fine, more expensive
toilet sand - bigger, n cheaper.

if u use bath sand as toilet.. the sand is too fine, once its moist. it can become very sticky.  also its too expensive to use and toilet sand. smile.gif
yes syriam do fight then sleep together. but they also can kill eash others, so better u seperate them.. before too late.
good quality dry food do help the syrian gaint weight, compare to lousy brand food. but dry food will never work better than fresh on hamster smile.gif ( a balanced fresh)
basicaly, smoothie is a BALANCED FRESH DIET. means its veges and fruits, which is in the balanced potion. u will get a chubby n healthy hamster. n never overweight.

mealies contain protein n FAT, FAT is what we don't want.. feeding too much will get an obese hammi. n the nutrition is now in balanced smile.gif
if u feeding fresh. ur hammi will not drink so much  to not drinking smile.gif
they not sooooo smelly lah Jamien, guess u miss her heat smile.gif now my whole room also on heat.. no small also hehe.. i playw ith them.. but don't feel my hand is smelly smile.gif


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drink alot, pee alot, then lost weight..
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Hahahaha... LOL... Like what you said before, one on heat, all also syiok syiok wanna on heat together. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Can only smell with very close distance when they are still young.
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I can't tell wether or not my hamster is losing weight, unfortunately.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 25 2008, 01:10 AM)
I can't tell wether or not my hamster is losing weight, unfortunately.
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she will hv very significance lost weight.. sure can see one.. smile.gif if canot really see.. i guess no worries
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sorry guys, was busy. Anyway, roche's heat was sooooo smelly... Like petrol leak or something la.
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jamien so late d shud go slp la... laugh.gif u coming for the gathering?

RYo, edited! laugh.gif u driving? how u bring button?

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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Aug 25 2008, 02:24 AM)
jamien so late d shud go slp la... laugh.gif u cuming for the gathering?
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Btw she's nt coming
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I'm not coming for the gathering lar. I'm working on that day. sad.gif There's no way I can come.
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does petshack have mealies? im thinking of getting some
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does petshack have mealies? im thinking of getting some
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QUOTE(sangels @ Aug 25 2008, 06:37 AM)
Yes, they have. Big fat mealies.  thumbup.gif
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Speaking about taming hamsters...

Here's my way of taming syrian:

I use a piece of tofu/vegie/mealie to lure my boy slowly to my palms. In the mid, I will let him smell and bite a bit, and finally lead him to my palm, then there he will enjoy the food and stuck everything into his cheek. The point is, I didn't release the food on my palm and I can raise my hand up to my face. He didn't look scare at all. But I don't understand how come if I let him to grab the food from my hand, he'll start trying to go back to his nest (the toilet). He'll do that whenever he saw I'm coming with food. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 02:04 AM)
sorry guys, was busy. Anyway, roche's heat was sooooo smelly... Like petrol leak or something la.
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got so smelly meh? hahhah maybe my house too many animals smell.. :Pget use of the stink tongue.gif

QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 25 2008, 05:03 AM)
does petshack have mealies? im thinking of getting some
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yes yes...smile.gif

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Yes, they have. Big fat mealies.  thumbup.gif
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big n fat like??? KAKAKKA run.. before Jxxxxx come box me..

QUOTE(kmao @ Aug 25 2008, 08:56 AM)
Speaking about taming hamsters...

Here's my way of taming syrian:

I use a piece of tofu/vegie/mealie to lure my boy slowly to my palms. In the mid, I will let him smell and bite a bit, and finally lead him to my palm, then there he will enjoy the food and stuck everything into his cheek. The point is, I didn't release the food on my palm and I can raise my hand up to my face. He didn't look scare at all. But I don't understand how come if I let him to grab the food from my hand, he'll start trying to go back to his nest (the toilet). He'll do that whenever he saw I'm coming with food. shakehead.gif

P/S: Newbie learning to tame.
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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Aug 24 2008, 11:35 PM)
Mine seems like doesn't drink AT ALL doh.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 25 2008, 02:04 AM)
sorry guys, was busy. Anyway, roche's heat was sooooo smelly... Like petrol leak or something la.
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what's a heat? Number 2s?

anyone here use those bath sands? I see a few different ones...lemon, strawberry etc. How to use them? Together with the 'toilet + scoup' thing?
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 25 2008, 08:39 AM)
You forgot to mentioned that the mealies are already gutloaded so we don't need to gutload them before feeding to our hamsters laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Wow! That is great, alrady gutloaded! How much is the minimum we can buy huh?
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Wow! That is great, alrady gutloaded! How much is the minimum we can buy huh?
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still having a hard time taming my robos. last time only 1 bite me, now both also bite me whenever they have the chance... haihz
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 09:39 AM)
same here. The water don't seem to reduce at all.
what's a heat? Number 2s?

anyone here use those bath sands? I see a few different ones...lemon, strawberry etc. How to use them? Together with the 'toilet + scoup' thing?
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Heat when the female hamster is like female human having her period. But hamsters have it once every 4 days and it will last 1 day. Not sure about the number 2s you are talking about.

Those are just the scents for us human to smell. The hamsters can't tell you what scent they like unless you can talk hamster talk laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Depends on the hamster you got. Dwarfs hamster will sand bath but not all dwarfs will. Syrians won't at all.

You can put about 1-2 cm deep or until it touches the hamster's tummy. You can sand bath them when you clean their tank. Just put in another temporary tank while cleaning. And put them back in when you're done cleaning the tank. The bathing sand is to absorb those excess oil from their fur. It will even absorb some of their smell.

If you use bathing sand all the time then it is more expensive to use as another member have already mentioned earlier than using toilet sand or non-climping cat litter. The hamster will use it as their toilet to pee and poo also. That's why there is a scoop to scoop up all the poo tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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toilet sand and bathing sand different?
what if I dun bath the hamster at all?

btw, what food you guys give your hamsters? I bought a small 300g pack of Habitrail staple food. She doesn't seem to like the thing that look like a wooden stick in the staple food mix. Sometimes I feed her some carrots too. Its really hard to see if I'm feeding her enough...or too much...
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 01:49 PM)
toilet sand and bathing sand different?
what if I dun bath the hamster at all?

btw, what food you guys give your hamsters? I bought a small 300g pack of Habitrail staple food. She doesn't seem to like the thing that look like a wooden stick in the staple food mix. Sometimes I feed her some carrots too. Its really hard to see if I'm feeding her enough...or too much...
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I don't mean to shoot at you but did you even read this thread? Nezu did reply on what the differences between the 2 and the reply is on top of this page. Please read from the first page. You can also read the previous v9.

Read that you have winter white hamsters. If you don't sand bath then the fur will be oily and the hamster will look uncomfortable and miserable. It's like you not bathing at all. How would you feel with all that sweat, dirt, dust, oil, etc on you?

Habitrail staple food is cheap low quality food. You should get Prestige Hamster or Harry Hamster. You can also try nezu's smoothie which is made from veges and fruits for a balance diet for the hamster. Carrots alone are not enough.

You can put 1-2 teaspoons of dry food a day. Fresh food will depends as it is different from one to another hamster. But do try to get nezu's smoothie as the results are really good.

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 25 2008, 08:39 AM)
You forgot to mentioned that the mealies are already gutloaded so we don't need to gutload them before feeding to our hamsters laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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gutload?...what it mean?? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 25 2008, 02:11 PM)
gutload?...what it mean?? hmm.gif
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I'm lazy to type so I'll quote from a website which I googled.

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Remember that what goes into the crickets, mealworms and other insect prey is what you are ultimately feeding your pet. Keeping crickets and other insects at home for a few days before feeding them (or raising your own) has the tremendous advantage of allowing you to "gut load" them before giving them to your pet. This simply means feeding them nutritious foods, so the nutrition is passed on to your pet.

Products can be bought at the pet store and mail order insect suppliers that are specially fortified for gut loading. These are convenient and generally good quality, but can be expensive. You can also feed them such things as tropical fish flakes, leafy greens (romaine, mustard greens, kale, collard greens), squash, sweet potatoes, carrots, oranges, apples, potatoes (peelings are fine), alfalfa, baby rice cereal, wheat germ, prepackaged reptile foods, dry cat food, etc.


Those aquarium shop which sell mealworms, crickets, etc will most probably have been feed on cardboards or newspaper. So do you want your hamsters to eat cardboard or newspaper?

Another saying is:
"What you are what you eat"


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I think 1.5 feet means the width of the tank

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still having a hard time taming my robos. last time only 1 bite me, now both also bite me whenever they have the chance... haihz
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Someone help?
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width of the cover of the tank
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I think 1.5 feet means the width of the tank
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width of the cover of the tank
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 25 2008, 02:21 PM)
I'm lazy to type so I'll quote from a website which I googled.
Those aquarium shop which sell mealworms, crickets, etc will most probably have been feed on cardboards or newspaper. So do you want your hamsters to eat cardboard or newspaper?

Another saying is:
"What you are what you eat"


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I think 1.5 feet means the width of the tank
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 25 2008, 02:06 PM)
I don't mean to shoot at you but did you even read this thread? Nezu did reply on what the differences between the 2 and the reply is on top of this page. Please read from the first page. You can also read the previous v9.

Read that you have winter white hamsters. If you don't sand bath then the fur will be oily and the hamster will look uncomfortable and miserable. It's like you not bathing at all. How would you feel with all that sweat, dirt, dust, oil, etc on you?

Habitrail staple food is cheap low quality food. You should get Prestige Hamster or Harry Hamster. You can also try nezu's smoothie which is made from veges and fruits for a balance diet for the hamster. Carrots alone are not enough.

You can put 1-2 teaspoons of dry food a day. Fresh food will depends as it is different from one to another hamster. But do try to get nezu's smoothie as the results are really good.
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actually I know but I asked again because those two lines don't mean anything to me...a newbie.

you don't know how hard it was just getting any information on these hamsters. When I got the hamster at Ikano, I asked what food they eat (he answered oats), how often or how much to feed (he doesn't know), and other things like differences between species, etc...I got no useful answer from him or anyone else nearby.

btw, someone just told me that mine's Winter Sapphire...
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Well, it ain't that hard once you know what "kind" of hamster you're going for, unless you went to the pet shop without knowledge of the hamster you're buying, which you should have done it in the first place.

Let say you're interested in rearing a Syrian, google "how to take care a Syrian hamster", if it's a WW, just replace the Syrian word with Winter White, and so on for Robo...

If you don't know how a Syrian/WW/Robo looks like, try searching for the image for those names. it's just so damn easy bro biggrin.gif

I knew nothing about hamster last 3 months, but i search for info about hamster quite often and eventually everything is in my head now tongue.gif

Bath sand - WW only (bathing purpose)
Toilet sand - Syrian & WW (pee/poo purpose)

Food - What nezu taught me is, always refill the bowl once it went out, so your hamster will become very chubby biggrin.gif
This apply the same to VEGE, always refill.
If you can't feed your hamster smoothie due to transport problem, like myself, buy mealworm and feed 3-4 worms everyday in order to provide your WW enough protein, to be chubby enough biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 03:16 PM)
actually I know but I asked again because those two lines don't mean anything to me...a newbie.

you don't know how hard it was just getting any information on these hamsters. When I got the hamster at Ikano, I asked what food they eat (he answered oats), how often or how much to feed (he doesn't know), and other things like differences between species, etc...I got no useful answer from him or anyone else nearby.

btw, someone just told me that mine's Winter Sapphire...
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Anyway I do apologize if I was too harsh.

I know how hard to get the information cause I bought my first hamster pair (robos) from Pet Safari also last year. After that we have been reading since v5 till now. Also research through google which helps.

And yes those people in Pets Safari know nothing about hamsters. Oats alone is not good for the hamsters.

The best hamster food available is Prestige Hamster and Harry Hamster. But do try to get Nezu's smoothie.

There are a few pros in WW here. You can try asking them later.
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Went to pyramid petshop to get some Habitrail stuff.

Wanted to get Habitrail ovo Den and Habitrail Mini wheel but no stock. Then bought Mini outpost add to my Ovo pad. Got 1 Female WW quite exp. Haiz...PetShack takda buka so go pyramid buy.

Firstly went to Pet Wonderland near to subang parade...i saw the hamster looks so pale and quite huge...omg.


Now my female and male getting a long...look like the male likes to 'keong kan' the female lo.


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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 25 2008, 04:49 PM)
Went to pyramid petshop to get some Habitrail stuff.

Wanted to get Habitrail ovo Den and Habitrail Mini wheel but no stock. Then bought Mini outpost add to my Ovo pad. Got 1 Female WW quite exp. Haiz...PetShack takda buka so go pyramid buy.

Firstly went to Pet Wonderland near to subang parade...i saw the hamster looks so pale and quite huge...omg.
Now my female and male getting a long...look like the male likes to 'keong kan' the female lo.
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there is pets wonderland near subang parade? can u tell me where issit?
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 03:16 PM)
actually I know but I asked again because those two lines don't mean anything to me...a newbie.

you don't know how hard it was just getting any information on these hamsters. When I got the hamster at Ikano, I asked what food they eat (he answered oats), how often or how much to feed (he doesn't know), and other things like differences between species, etc...I got no useful answer from him or anyone else nearby.

btw, someone just told me that mine's Winter Sapphire...
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I think you should do your own research rather than waiting for people to tell you or just ask everything. You can have all the information from the internet, then ask here if you have doubts on understanding. Everyone here was newbie before they get knowledge. It's better to do own study and research than get spoon fed. I was a newbie on hamster too before. I did research and read up threads and forums before I get my very first pair of robos. About those products also you can get info online. Hope you have a wonderful researching time. Good luck. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 25 2008, 04:49 PM)
Went to pyramid petshop to get some Habitrail stuff.

Wanted to get Habitrail ovo Den and Habitrail Mini wheel but no stock. Then bought Mini outpost add to my Ovo pad. Got 1 Female WW quite exp. Haiz...PetShack takda buka so go pyramid buy.

Firstly went to Pet Wonderland near to subang parade...i saw the hamster looks so pale and quite huge...omg.
Now my female and male getting a long...look like the male likes to 'keong kan' the female lo.
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Then you should start prepare more tanks and accessories by now for the new born pups. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_question.gif icon_idea.gif And first of all is read up about breeding session before your female hamster give birth rather than asking for icon_question.gif when you saw pinkies. nod.gif Good luck!
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Zomg my mom and my bro is down with a flu! cry.gif

Hope I don't fall sick on saturday or else cannot see fatsoso
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there is pets wonderland near subang parade? can u tell me where issit?
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Erm...Duno how to explain o. The Pet Wonderland is beside a vet clinic. Near SS15?
Quite small.

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 25 2008, 06:11 PM)
Zomg my mom and my bro is down with a flu! cry.gif

Hope I don't fall sick on saturday or else cannot see fatsoso
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Take a lots of fluids and Vit C from now. Sure you'll be ok. If you get the flu also then take some Anti-histamine then you can come to the gathering already. biggrin.gif
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blush.gif sangels, do you still have forcep?? can bring some to me during gathering? i will pay you tongue.gif


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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 25 2008, 06:21 PM)
Erm...Duno how to explain o. The Pet Wonderland is beside a vet clinic. Near SS15?
Quite small.
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i think that one is pets more tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sangels @ Aug 25 2008, 05:36 PM)
I think you should do your own research rather than waiting for people to tell you or just ask everything. You can have all the information from the internet, then ask here if you have doubts on understanding. Everyone here was newbie before they get knowledge. It's better to do own study and research than get spoon fed. I was a newbie on hamster too before. I did research and read up threads and forums before I get my very first pair of robos. About those products also you can get info online. Hope you have a wonderful researching time. Good luck. thumbup.gif
Then you should start prepare more tanks and accessories by now for the new born pups.  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif icon_question.gif  icon_idea.gif And first of all is read up about breeding session before your female hamster give birth rather than asking for  icon_question.gif  when you saw pinkies.  nod.gif Good luck!
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Your first pair was robos, you dont worry they run too fast ka blush.gif
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 25 2008, 06:39 PM)
Your first pair was robos, you dont worry they run too fast ka  blush.gif
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I do conduct my own research...if I know what to type lar tongue.gif
tomorrow will be visiting Pet Shack to get some stuffs and Harry Hamster food. Right now I only fear my hamster doesn't like that food. The habitrail food I give her right now...she only likes to eat the walnut. Besides that and the carrot, I don't think she's eating anything else. Its hard to see with the 'living room' being so messy still tongue.gif building a playhouse for her tonight to organize things a little
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 07:02 PM)
I do conduct my own research...if I know what to type lar tongue.gif
tomorrow will be visiting Pet Shack to get some stuffs and Harry Hamster food. Right now I only fear my hamster doesn't like that food. The habitrail food I give her right now...she only likes to eat the walnut. Besides that and the carrot, I don't think she's eating anything else. Its hard to see with the 'living room' being so messy still tongue.gif building a playhouse for her tonight to organize things a little
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leave the food bowl there until empty then only refill, if not they will be picky. if you leave it there, she had no choice but to eat it when hungry
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 07:02 PM)
I do conduct my own research...if I know what to type lar tongue.gif
tomorrow will be visiting Pet Shack to get some stuffs and Harry Hamster food. Right now I only fear my hamster doesn't like that food. The habitrail food I give her right now...she only likes to eat the walnut. Besides that and the carrot, I don't think she's eating anything else. Its hard to see with the 'living room' being so messy still tongue.gif building a playhouse for her tonight to organize things a little
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Just read up the thread and see what is being discuss and answers, then if you still can't understand, then get the key word and google it, sure can get some answer and pictures out there. You can actually get a lot of infos from those oversea forums as they are more expert in hamstery. smile.gif
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yea, that's what I'm doing.
anyway...something weird has happened. She started forming the habit of sleeping outside her box today. And she slept 3 times since I got back 3 hours ago. Didn't see this much sleeping past 2 days...
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 25 2008, 12:31 AM)
Hmm... I handle my Button everyday... Bt i cant smell anything...
I stroke her also she wont freeze......
However, my fren always said i gt bad nose, cant smell thing.....
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 08:44 PM)
yea, that's what I'm doing.
anyway...something weird has happened. She started forming the habit of sleeping outside her box today. And she slept 3 times since I got back 3 hours ago. Didn't see this much sleeping past 2 days...
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They will sleep during day time and awake at night. They will wake up for food, drink, pee and poo, so you no need to worry for how many times they sleep, just you haven't get used to their behaviour only.

QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 25 2008, 08:46 PM)
Bump my question =(
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What's your question? Didn't see any '?' there. They will be freeze up when someone stroke them if only when they are on heat. You didn't get to smell the smell with your 'bad nose' doesn't mean they are not getting their heat. If you want, then you can try rubbing her genital area and wait for the whitish liquid then you smell it, maybe you should get to smell that with your 'bad nose' then. wink.gif
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Lolz, it work? If tat so i ll try this method everyday
Hope i dun faint when i smell it XD
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Weird WW i have. Duno why they like to poop in the bathing sand instead of the toilet i set for them. Which i already fill with their poops. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 25 2008, 10:08 PM)
Lolz, it work? If tat so i ll try this method everyday
Hope i dun faint when i smell it XD
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I hope you don't get too excited when you smell her everyday and ~ahem ahem~ tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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i got some problem v my 2 female WW. one of my WW like to scream, but not really much . It scream when another WW jump on it. then it will like lie on the floor with 4 legs face up. recently found some of its fur drop. just small part. and it like to shout a lot these few days. both of the WW like fighting each other, but not looks like serious fight oso. because the screaming WW din hav serious injured. BTW my another hamster act a bit weird, she smells the genital part of the screaming hamster n even bite it T_T she even do this to her own little furry kids T_T it is a female ~_~ can anyone explain to me?

i found out My another white WW's chin was wet. and i think its the inflammation of its pouch. any solution for this? it looks like clean out the things in her pouch edi. do i stil need to bring it to vet?
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guys...Winter White, Winter Normal, Winter dwarf....they're all the same rite? Wikipedia just put them under one name...Winter White Russian Dward Hamster. Identified by the one strip of dark fur on their back rite?
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 25 2008, 11:27 PM)
guys...Winter White, Winter Normal, Winter dwarf....they're all the same rite? Wikipedia just put them under one name...Winter White Russian Dward Hamster. Identified by the one strip of dark fur on their back rite?
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Yes! Is the same hamster with the different names.

You will see more from petshops which give them other names to make the cute cute to sell like panda hamster (which is Black Dominant Spotted or Black spot RC) from Ikano so they can fetch a higher price than normal RCs.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 25 2008, 10:15 PM)
Weird WW i have. Duno why they like to poop in the bathing sand instead of the toilet i set for them. Which i already fill with their poops.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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if really that easy..no nid train d..

my syrian lagi teruk....

she go gorek those sand which i put for her as toilet.. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 25 2008, 11:40 PM)
if really that easy..no nid train d..

my syrian lagi teruk....

she go gorek those sand which i put for her as toilet.. shakehead.gif
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That's normal hamster habit ler... They like to dig... Your hamster haven't start sleeping with its pee and poo in the toilet yet. That's more headache the pee smell will be on it's fur... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 25 2008, 11:53 PM)
That's normal hamster habit ler... They like to dig... Your hamster haven't start sleeping with its pee and poo in the toilet yet. That's more headache the pee smell will be on it's fur... rclxub.gifΒ  rclxub.gifΒ  rclxub.gif
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yea..she did it before too...

she sleep inside the hole..her body,like..erm..all her fur stick together..lol.. doh.gif

really headache until i removed the hole... brows.gif

& she dint pee & poo inside the new house that i bought to replace the previous one..

weird... blink.gif

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so did you train your hamster to not sleep in the sand?
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so did you train your hamster to not sleep in the sand?
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never train...

sawshe sleep thereonce...i take out the toilet... blink.gif

after that she go back to the house.. biggrin.gif


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Hi, may i know which brand of toilet sand that u all are using now? hmm.gif
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Hi everyone i got a question here, i got 2 hamster which are Winter White. They both live in a cage 2 months ago, i had bought a new cage and they are inside without problem, but last week i change back to the old cage for 1 week and after that i put then into the new cage again, they starting to fight keep 1 of them keep attacking another one....may i know what happen cause before that 2 months they won't fight, and another one when i feed he like not really want to eat....why??

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winter white are territory hams... should be live a lone!! thats why they fight..
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Hi, may i know which brand of toilet sand that u all are using now?  hmm.gif
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You can try Frisian Non-clumping cat litter which is safe for hamster to use as toilet sand.
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winter white are territory hams... should be live a lone!! thats why they fight..
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How come before that they live inside without problem, means they should seperate?
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How come before that they live inside without problem, means they should seperate?
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they do hv a problem but of course the petstores dont show you. they take away the dead hamsters. so many ppl hv seen injured hamsters in crowded tanks in petstores :/

sangels, i also want forceps, pls bring to the gath ya?
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QUOTE(IceHypnose @ Aug 26 2008, 06:20 PM)
Hi everyone i got a question here, i got 2 hamster which are Winter White. They both live in a cage 2 months ago, i had bought a new cage and they are inside without problem, but last week i change back to the old cage for 1 week and after that i put then into the new cage again, they starting to fight keep 1 of them keep attacking another one....may i know what happen cause before that 2 months they won't fight, and another one when i feed he like not really want to eat....why??

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from my experience, most winter white will start to fight starting from 2 months old.. even for siblings.. that's y i started separating them since 1 month old..
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QUOTE(mpoo @ Aug 26 2008, 06:09 PM)
Hi, may i know which brand of toilet sand that u all are using now?  hmm.gif
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yes the one Sangels mentioned is good, but very big bag.. if u want small toilet sand which is non clumping n good.. pet shack got.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Aug 25 2008, 11:40 PM)
if really that easy..no nid train d..

my syrian lagi teruk....

she go gorek those sand which i put for her as toilet.. shakehead.gif
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Mine de WW..he go korek the bathing sand then turn body 2 round against then sand then push some at backside then go back sleep. Now i remove the sand due to..they always poo and pee in the sand. Now i put Ovo Den as a toilet for them.
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how do you stop them from fighting each other?
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how do you stop them from fighting each other?
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separate them.. there is no way we can stop them from fighting.. lecture wouldnt help..
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how do you stop them from fighting each other?
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there are certain species that can live together like robos. but for syrians its not suggested that they live together. its in their nature to be solitary
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wow...separate them for life?
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Yes, for life. Don't worry, they will not get lonely. They prefer to live alone. The reason they fight is because they don't like to stay with each other. So why force them?
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oh darn it...I bought another two to keep the one I have company...and I think the elder one is bullying the younger ones. The younger ones and turning and screaming...but I don't see the elder one biting or hitting at all. Can't tell what's going on rclxub.gif thankfully now they're all sleeping...I can rest a bit sweat.gif
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u shud separate them asap... when they wake up the fight continue
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What breed are your hamsters again Aeon?
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They are screaming because they are stress/being frighten by the adult
(Correct me if im wrong)
U gt two choice
Seperate them or put for adoption/sell

(Sorry, i knw i always ask ppl2 put it for adoption - -'')
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 26 2008, 08:51 PM)
They are screaming because they are stress/being frighten by the adult
(Correct me if im wrong)
U gt two choice
Seperate them or put for adoption/sell

(Sorry, i knw i always ask ppl2 put it for adoption - -'')
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I agree with ryo, its probably because the 1 that you already hv is bigger and frightens the other two. Guess u hv to buy more tanks/cages then.

Yours are WW rite aeon?

off topic: are scorpions easy to take care off ryo?
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should be winter white.. saw in garage sales he deal with a seller for winter white.. not spying him, i am searching too LOL
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lulz u did the same thing tat i did jz nw
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yea, being frightened sounds like it. Guess they're not fighting...yet...have to keep an eye out for this in the future.

ANd yep...I have Winter White dwarfs.
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Not fighting doesnt mean they wont dude
They ll have stress too
When they stress, hearbeat rate increase and more prone2 decease
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 26 2008, 07:55 PM)
how do you stop them from fighting each other?
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You throw in a referee hamster to stop the fight rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Everyone been saying separate them into their own tanks is the only solution to stop them from fighting each other which could lead to death sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 26 2008, 09:07 PM)
Not fighting doesnt mean they wont dude
They ll have stress too
When they stress, hearbeat rate increase and more prone2 decease
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When hamster gets stress it could lead to wet-tail disease which is fatal if found out late.

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I din knw tat, thanks for telling
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 26 2008, 08:35 PM)
Yes, for life. Don't worry, they will not get lonely. They prefer to live alone. The reason they fight is because they don't like to stay with each other. So why force them?
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What about mine?
I guess mine is 1 male and female.
Both of them like to smell each others genital doh.gif doh.gif . Sometimes the male like to kacau the female coz female always make noise when the white put 'his hand on her body' then the female will sleep like 'frozen'
then each time i open my Habitrail Ovo cover and check on them what they doing, the male always run then find things to do or act sleep. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Not sure whats happening..they sometimes walk together then run in the wheel together.


(Sorry for my Poor english + duno how to explain sweat.gif )

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 26 2008, 09:12 PM)
I din knw tat, thanks for telling
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It better to know now than to experience it like we did with our solid umbrous, DigDig, we brought back from Penang. Was heart broken when he passed away due to wet-tail.
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 26 2008, 09:14 PM)
What about mine?
I guess mine  is 1 male and female.
Both of them like to smell each others genital  doh.gif  doh.gif . Sometimes the male like to kacau the female coz female always make noise when the white put 'his hand on her body' then the female will sleep like 'frozen'
then each time i open my Habitrail Ovo cover and check on them what they doing, the male always run then find things to do or act sleep.  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

Not sure whats happening..they sometimes walk together then run in the wheel together.
(Sorry for my Poor english + duno how to explain  sweat.gif )
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What breed again? The only breed that actually likes company until I can almost say as NEED company are robos. All the others do fine on their own. Especially not syrians. Syrians NEED to be alone.

If you don't want to breed them please separate them. Syrians don't like living together and can breed a lot. I'm sure you're aware that 1 syrian needs 1 tank. If you don't separate them soon, you'll need to buy 10 more tanks as opposed to 1 more that you have to buy now.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 26 2008, 09:19 PM)
What breed again? The only breed that actually likes company until I can almost say as NEED company are robos. All the others do fine on their own. Especially not syrians. Syrians NEED to be alone.

If you don't want to breed them please separate them. Syrians don't like living together and can breed a lot. I'm sure you're aware that 1 syrian needs 1 tank. If you don't separate them soon, you'll need to buy 10 more tanks as opposed to 1 more that you have to buy now.
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hers is WW if not mistaken. been telling her to seperate them since a few pages back but yea...
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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 26 2008, 09:14 PM)
What about mine?
I guess mine  is 1 male and female.
Both of them like to smell each others genital  doh.gif  doh.gif . Sometimes the male like to kacau the female coz female always make noise when the white put 'his hand on her body' then the female will sleep like 'frozen'
then each time i open my Habitrail Ovo cover and check on them what they doing, the male always run then find things to do or act sleep.  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

Not sure whats happening..they sometimes walk together then run in the wheel together.
(Sorry for my Poor english + duno how to explain  sweat.gif )
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Well you better separate them now if you don't want the female to be pregnant. The female froze is because she is on heat. All females hamster will freeze when you touch them when they are having their heat.

I think the male is still not tamed yet that's why he ran away when you open the Ovo.

If she gets pregant and give birth, the female will be very defensive and scared. She might eat all her babies when you house her and the male together or she will fight him and it will get ugly.

~ heat is like human female having their period
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The explanation here is pretty simple:
Any hamster that is not robo, need to be seperated. Even they don't fight now, doesn't mean that they WOULDN'T fight, it's juz the matter of time.
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 26 2008, 09:22 PM)
The explanation here is pretty simple:
Any hamster that is not robo, need to be seperated. Even they don't fight now, doesn't mean that they WOULDN'T fight, it's juz the matter of time.
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The robos have to be from the same batch. If different batch or age, they will fight also.

That's why it is better to get a pair of same sex robos in 1 go than get 1 now and get another later.
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 26 2008, 09:19 PM)
What breed again? The only breed that actually likes company until I can almost say as NEED company are robos. All the others do fine on their own. Especially not syrians. Syrians NEED to be alone.

If you don't want to breed them please separate them. Syrians don't like living together and can breed a lot. I'm sure you're aware that 1 syrian needs 1 tank. If you don't separate them soon, you'll need to buy 10 more tanks as opposed to 1 more that you have to buy now.
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Both are WW

QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 26 2008, 09:19 PM)
hers is WW if not mistaken. been telling her to seperate them since a few pages back but yea...
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I tot they could get a long since they are still small...lulz

QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 26 2008, 09:22 PM)
Well you better separate them now if you don't want the female to be pregnant. The female froze is because she is on heat. All females hamster will freeze when you touch them when they are having their heat.

I think the male is still not tamed yet that's why he ran away when you open the Ovo.

If she gets pregant and give birth, the female will be very defensive and scared. She might eat all her babies when you house her and the male together or she will fight him and it will get ugly.

~ heat is like human female having their period
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The male ar...not sure its tamed or not...His hobby is to eat..sit inside the food bowl and dun let the female to enter. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 26 2008, 09:25 PM)
The robos have to be from the same batch. If different batch or age, they will fight also.

That's why it is better to get a pair of same sex robos in 1 go than get 1 now and get another later.
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Erm~~~ sounds like my current situation. I got a female robo which i got from jayniel few days ago, been tried to intro to existing pair but failed. Now i'm keeping the new robo alone in another cage and hopefully will calm it down and relief the stress.
The new robo will start screaming even if there is another robo across the splitter... headache.... rclxub.gif
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my 1 month old baby..
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Lolz looks fat and healthy

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QUOTE(YiaNBoY @ Aug 26 2008, 09:42 PM)
my 1 month old baby..
hapi b'day  notworthy.gif
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happy birthday! so chubby and cute cute! biggrin.gif

ww agouti rite?
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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 26 2008, 09:19 PM)
hers is WW if not mistaken. been telling her to seperate them since a few pages back but yea...
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my WW birth already
2 week already
i need separate with her baby?

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the other day i try to feed mealworm to my boy, he is playing hide and seek with it.

just now i feed him, he snatch it from me ( using chopstick to hold worms tongue.gif ) so shock to see that, he is eating it alive sweat.gif


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QUOTE(akecema @ Aug 26 2008, 09:57 PM)
my WW birth already
2 week already
i need separate with her baby?
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separate at 1 month old..


Added on August 26, 2008, 10:04 pmwho here keeps Russian Campbell hamsters?

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:02 PM)
separate at 1 month old..


Added on August 26, 2008, 10:04 pmwho here keeps Russian Campbell hamsters?
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why they can live 2gether..
ala.. i need buy new cage
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QUOTE(akecema @ Aug 26 2008, 09:57 PM)
my WW birth already
2 week already
i need separate with her baby?
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:02 PM)
separate at 1 month old..


Added on August 26, 2008, 10:04 pmwho here keeps Russian Campbell hamsters?
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yup..
wait 2 more week ba...
mine js seperate 2day...

Russian Campbell i got 2 tongue.gif
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do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)

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QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Aug 26 2008, 07:30 PM)
Mine de WW..he go korek the bathing sand then turn body 2 round against then sand then push some at backside then go back sleep. Now i remove the sand due to..they always poo and pee in the sand. Now i put Ovo Den as a toilet for them.
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yea..me too..bsides DEN..i put another more toilet for her.. cool2.gif

so that she can easily reach the toilet..lol.. blink.gif

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why cant give smoothie? any reason?
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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Aug 26 2008, 10:09 PM)
why cant give smoothie? any reason?
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RCs are diabetic.. there are never recommended to take fruits.. only can eat veges.. fruits are high in sugar..

edit: i mean they are prone to diabetes..

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last night i put 1 per 4 of a boiled egg for my hamster..she ate all..

izzit too much for them?... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 26 2008, 10:01 PM)
the other day i try to feed mealworm to my boy, he is playing hide and seek with it.

just now i feed him, he snatch it from me ( using chopstick to hold worms tongue.gif ) so shock to see that, he is eating it alive sweat.gif
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Lulz those are my mealworms rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:07 PM)
do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)
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wah..
i js feed them 4 1 month...
kk...
can say bb 2 their favorite food ady...
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 26 2008, 10:13 PM)
Lulz those are my mealworms  rclxms.gif
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haha, i saw them so fat, maybe my hammy like lor

haha, indeed they like it. brows.gif brows.gif
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Told u they ll like it
I tot u ll be afraid2 feed them2 ur hammy lolz
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You can always get the vege set like the bell peppers for dwarfs....they're not high in fructose.
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 26 2008, 10:45 PM)
Told u they ll like it
I tot u ll be afraid2 feed them2 ur hammy lolz
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i just geli to crush the head doh.gif


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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Aug 26 2008, 10:47 PM)
You can always get the vege set like the bell peppers for dwarfs....they're not high in fructose.
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nvm..
buy vege..
last time i used 2 do tat..
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You guys should try if want to have a chubby hamster

By the way...Anyone can tell me where can get mealies?

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:07 PM)
do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)
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difference person have difference opinion. the balanced freah is feed to rc, ww n robos for yrs without problem. as crazymouse said b4, its always say feeding hamster will cos diarrhea. but smoothie hv prove than there is not diarrhea.

i hope you can get the real prove b4 u post the statement up.

edit: i guess i better put it up here.

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 26 2008, 10:51 PM)
i just geli to crush the head doh.gif
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At least u can still feed them mealies... i'll get fainted if i see one whole box of mealies crawling in front of me...:star:
BTW, can hammy eat egg york?... I tried to feed my robos egg white, but they didn't even bite it... sad.gif
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QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 26 2008, 11:35 PM)
At least u can still feed them mealies... i'll get fainted if i see one whole box of mealies crawling in front of me...:star:
BTW, can hammy eat egg york?... I tried to feed my robos egg white, but they didn't even bite it... sad.gif
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I think it's best to avoid egg yolk. Not sure about egg york though tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

How did you cook the eggs? Boil? I think your robos just not yet use to the egg white only. Takes time.



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QUOTE(IcedNyior @ Aug 26 2008, 06:41 PM)
they do hv a problem but of course the petstores dont show you. they take away the dead hamsters. so many ppl hv seen injured hamsters in crowded tanks in petstores :/

sangels, i also want forceps, pls bring to the gath ya?
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Ok, noted. Will bring more then. smile.gif

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 26 2008, 07:10 PM)
yes the one Sangels mentioned is good, but very big bag.. if u want small toilet sand which is non clumping n good.. pet shack got.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(akecema @ Aug 26 2008, 10:05 PM)
why they can live 2gether..
ala.. i need buy new cage
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:07 PM)
do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)
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I think that's not fair to judge that because no one know the ratio of the content of the smoothie except her and no prove also RC will definitely get diabetes if feeding smoothie. icon_rolleyes.gif
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edited blink.gif

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Aug 26 2008, 11:53 PM)
i am oso interested blink.gif
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That's interesting. Should ask her to put up an article in the smoothie thread instead of PM everyone who are interested to know. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:11 PM)
RCs are diabetic.. there are never recommended to take fruits.. only can eat veges.. fruits are high in sugar..

edit: i mean they are prone to diabetes..
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I wonder if there is scientific proof of this fact or not. It will be good if there is supporting article on RC prone to be diabetes from eating fruits?
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I'm interested. We are talking about RC nutrition and smoothie right?

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Aug 27 2008, 12:01 AM)
I'm interested.
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i think i do it here. so newbie can see also.

this diet is feeding on all hamster for yrs. the only difference is i blended it n easy for everyone to keep the blended food rather keeping the whole veges n fruits. this is explain n into in my wts about how Nutri-smoothie come. and there is no problem with the ww rc n robos eating this diet set for yrs.

it is same on feeding fresh. why most of the info say canot feed too much fresh, it will cos diarrhea? cos there is no one leading to feed the BALANCED fresh diet. that is why diarrhea can happen. ppl who feed smoothie to their hamster can prove on this. if their hamster diarrhea?

if u ONLY feeding fruits to RC of cos they get sick, even human take too much appless can get sick. every diet in about BALANCED, that is why i always CAP LOCK the word BALANCED.
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if feeding smoothie to rc would cause any health problem, ppl will surely question nezu or post on this forum.. afta so long, v never heard of any complaint and nothing but COMPLIMENTS.. would any1 of u all question nezu's smoothie? 100% not me for sure..and i think everyone thinks the same way like i do...
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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Aug 27 2008, 12:16 AM)
if feeding smoothie to rc would cause any health problem, ppl will surely question nezu or post on this forum.. afta so long, v never heard of any complaint and nothing but COMPLIMENTS.. would any1 of u all question nezu's smoothie? 100% not me for sure..and i think everyone thinks the same way like i do...
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I think Jayniel gotten confused regarding the fact that RC is prone to diabetes if fruits were in their diet. So she straight away assumed smoothie was bad for RC too since smoothie have fruits in it.

Anyway I think Nezu have explained regarding her smoothie. I don't see anyone complaining since it's been all this while giving positive feedback here.

The only bad thing is most of my syrians don't like Red Devil flavor. They are so picky shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 27 2008, 12:27 AM)
I think Jayniel gotten confused regarding the fact that RC is prone to diabetes if fruits were in their diet. So she straight away assumed smoothie was bad for RC too since smoothie have fruits in it.

Anyway I think Nezu have explained regarding her smoothie. I don't see anyone complaining since it's been all this while giving positive feedback here.

The only bad thing is most of my syrians don't like Red Devil flavor. They are so picky shakehead.gif
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Lol, my syrians like red devil the best. Although they haven't tried cool and crazy yet.

Anyway, I'm just interested because I didn't know RCs needed special diets. Who knows, I might get a RC one day..

So for anyone who believes in nezu's products, you can continue feeding. With those that don't basically just don't feed la. It's really just that simple. smile.gif

Sometimes I feel sad that my robos never had a chance to eat smoothies. At least my syrians get them.
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I dunno wan2 buy wat flavour for my button....
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well of cos i didnt simply say.. i only raise the matter now after so long cos i dont wanna simply assume.. it has always been advised not to feed RCs with fruits becos of the sugar content.. very few ppl have RCs.. so that's y no complaint so far?

i'm not against anyone or anything here.. there's no benefit for me doing so.. i just wanna raise some concern.. so that all those with RCs can observe their hammies & give proper feedback.. if really no negative effect on their health, then wouldnt it be a new discovery?

i'm not giving a one-off statement & everyone should follow what i say.. but i guess this matter should be discussed in the proper thread & that's y i posted here for everybody to comment & understand my concern..

regarding diarrhea, there are sites that suggest that average amount of fresh will do no harm.. but about feeding fresh to RCs, i've never seen any specific positive comments regarding the matter..

also, someone also addressed the matter to me.. which is why i wanted to ask publicly..

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:07 PM)
do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)
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From your reply you don't seem like asking publicly their opinions here. All you just said is "Crazymouse say cannot give smoothie so cannot give to RC smoothie lor" without asking for their opinions wor...

~This looks like its directed to the smoothie to me. Anyone else?

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 12:41 AM)
well of cos i didnt simply say.. i only raise the matter now after so long cos i dont wanna simply assume.. it has always been advised not to feed RCs with fruits becos of the sugar content.. very few ppl have RCs.. so that's y no complaint so far?

i'm not against anyone or anything here.. there's no benefit for me doing so.. i just wanna raise some concern.. so that all those with RCs can observe their hammies & give proper feedback.. if really no negative effect on their health, then wouldnt it be a new discovery?

i'm not giving a one-off statement & everyone should follow what i say.. but i guess this matter should be discussed in the proper thread & that's y i posted here for everybody to comment & understand my concern..

regarding diarrhea, there are sites that suggest that average amount of fresh will do no harm.. but about feeding fresh to RCs, i've never seen any specific positive comments regarding the matter..

also, someone also addressed the matter to me.. which is why i wanted to ask publicly..
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I think somehow you have your own reason not to feed your hamster with smoothie and concern about RC getting diabetes with smoothie. But like you say, someone should prove it and maybe it will become a new discovery. You are one of the hamster owner who have RC, maybe you can start considering of discover this fact. FYI, Nezu's smoothie main content are mostly veges like red pepper, green pepper, apple, pumpkin, corn and etc. I didn't see any high glucose contain fruits or veges in it. She also did her research and study on diet and nutrition content in each particular veges, fruits and grains which she used to make the smoothie before she start making it. All ingredient are freshly choose and expensive ingredients from organic store are used for the smoothie. I'm not here to side anyone but to tell the truth and tell what I know about the smoothie. icon_idea.gif Hope someone out there can appreciate what we can have and get for our hamsters. Of cos, all comments are welcomed for further improvement, I'm sure Nezu will be great to have all feed back no matter good or bad ones from those who tried it. smile.gif

QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:07 PM)
do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)
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I think this should be edited as for me I'll interpret it as 'DO NOT' feed smoothie to your RC (maybe my English is not that fantastic). blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 27 2008, 12:40 AM)
I dunno wan2 buy wat flavour for my button....
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Well if you have heard of Chipmon then you should know of her syrians that she breeds in Singapore.

Nezu have consulted with Chipmon on all the ingredients used in the smoothie so that it is the best for our hamsters.

Anyway I do agree that you should edit your reply as the newbies might misunderstood your reply and say that smoothie is bad.
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 27 2008, 12:52 AM)
From your reply you don't seem like asking publicly their opinions here. All you just said is "Crazymouse say cannot give smoothie so cannot give to RC smoothie lor" without asking for their opinions wor...

~This looks like its directed to the smoothie to me. Anyone else?
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QUOTE(sangels @ Aug 27 2008, 12:56 AM)
I think somehow you have your own reason not to feed your hamster with smoothie and concern about RC getting diabetes with smoothie. But like you say, someone should prove it and maybe it will become a new discovery. You are one of the hamster owner who have RC, maybe you can start considering of discover this fact. FYI, Nezu's smoothie main content are mostly veges like red pepper, green pepper, apple, pumpkin, corn and etc. I didn't see any high glucose contain fruits or veges in it. She also did her research and study on diet and nutrition content in each particular veges, fruits and grains which she used to make the smoothie before she start making it. All ingredient are freshly choose and expensive ingredients from organic store are used for the smoothie. I'm not here to side anyone but to tell the truth and tell what I know about the smoothie.  icon_idea.gif Hope someone out there can appreciate what we can have and get for our hamsters. Of cos, all comments are welcomed for further improvement, I'm sure Nezu will be great to have all feed back no matter good or bad ones from those who tried it.  smile.gif
I think this should be edited as for me I'll interpret it as 'DO NOT' feed smoothie to your RC (maybe my English is not that fantastic). blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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sigh, everyone being sensitive here.. i am directing to the smoothie, cos it contains fruits.. not to trigger war..
instead of shooting my way of approach, why not look at my point?

if Nezu has tested the smoothies on RCs then the case is settled.. if not, isnt it to early to say it wont harm them? i'm raising concern so that ppl be careful & start to be observant.. if i just keep quiet, do u think it'll be beneficial?


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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 27 2008, 01:02 AM)
Well if you have heard of Chipmon then you should know of her syrians that she breeds in Singapore.

Nezu have consulted with Chipmon on all the ingredients used in the smoothie so that it is the best for our hamsters.

Anyway I do agree that you should edit your reply as the newbies might misunderstood your reply and say that smoothie is bad.
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yup, syrians.. i'm concerned about Russian Campbell, especially those with diabetes in their genetics..

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 27 2008, 12:52 AM)
From your reply you don't seem like asking publicly their opinions here. All you just said is "Crazymouse say cannot give smoothie so cannot give to RC smoothie lor" without asking for their opinions wor...

~This looks like its directed to the smoothie to me. Anyone else?
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i hav the same opinion.. this dont seems to b asking for opinions.. our reply might b a bit harsh but we really dont wanna c false comment on GREAT products..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 01:02 AM)
sigh, everyone being sensitive here.. i am directing to the smoothie, cos it contains fruits.. not to trigger war..
instead of shooting my way of approach, why not look at my point?

if Nezu has tested the smoothies on RCs then the case is settled.. if not, isnt it to early to say it wont harm them? i'm raising concern so that ppl be careful & start to be observant.. if i just keep quiet, do u think it'll be beneficial?


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yup, syrians.. i'm concerned about Russian Campbell, especially those with diabetes in their genetics..
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oops.gif Don't mean to have war. Like I say, my English is not that fantastic and I'm just giving feed back on how I'll understand with your statement. blush.gif Maybe you are too sensitive with our replies, thought that we are firing or flaming at you, but we are NOT. icon_rolleyes.gif

As you said, those RC have diabetes in their genetics, so it'll be their genetic problem and not so much of the diet they take in. Maybe even they just take staple food also they'll get diabetes? Just like human.
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let's wait for Nezu's answer.. it must have been tested on RCs for anyone to be SURE that the smoothie wont trigger diabetes in RCs..

btw, if u all did some research, not all RCs have diabetes in their line.. it's a hereditary disease.. therefore tests must be done in different lines of RCs.. this thing, it's all up to RCs owners to voice up.. non-RC owners, unless got a strong point to prove, may refrain from shooting at my way of approach..

@sangles: that's my point.. how if those who give smoothie to RCs happen to have diabetic RCs? they wouldnt have realised it's from the smoothie cos everyone is complimenting it.. the concern is now whether the smoothie will trigger (not cause, but trigger) diabetes in RCs..

ps/ i'm not sensitive la.. even non-sensitive ppl also can see that..

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 01:11 AM)
let's wait for Nezu's answer.. it must have been tested on RCs for anyone to be SURE that the smoothie wont trigger diabetes in RCs..

btw, if u all did some research, not all RCs have diabetes in their line.. it's a hereditary disease.. therefore tests must be done in different lines of RCs.. this thing, it's all up to RCs owners to voice up.. non-RC owners, unless got a strong point to prove, may refrain from shooting at my way of approach..

@sangles: that's my point.. how if those who give smoothie to RCs happen to have diabetic RCs? they wouldnt have realised it's from the smoothie cos everyone is complimenting it.. the concern is now whether the smoothie will trigger (not cause, but trigger) diabetes in RCs..

ps/ i'm not sensitive la.. even non-sensitive ppl also can see that..
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So how to explain for RC who do not take fresh also can get diabetes after some time? I'm asking out of curiosity since you are having and breeding RC, wanted to know more.

Luckily I'm having Syrians. Since RC have so many genetically problems and disorders, like diabetes, flipping, bitty and so on, better don't have RC then. Or else, I'll be very sad if I lost them. sad.gif

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QUOTE(sangels @ Aug 27 2008, 01:21 AM)
So how to explain for RC who do not take fresh also can get diabetes after some time? I'm asking out of curiosity since you are having and breeding RC, wanted to know more.

Luckily I'm having Syrians. Since RC have so many genetically problems and disorders, like diabetes, flipping, bitty and so on, better don't have RC then. Or else, I'll be very sad if I lost them.  sad.gif
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i dont think that ALL RCs with diabetes in their line end up having diabetes.. there must be some factor to trigger it..

i do agree that breeding RCs are not easy.. one gotta choose those without genetic problems then only can breed.. that's y i've stopped breeding my RCs before ascertaining that they're free from genetic disorders.. but i have not tested for diabetes before.. all this while, i've only given fruits to my ww & robos, but not RCs, as there are just too many sites which are against RCs taking sugary foods.. Wikipedia specifically mentioned FRUITS..
therefore i hope this will make ppl stop & think (i'm referring to RC owners only, other hamsters no prob..)..

but dont be so against RCs lar.. once ppl start doing proper breeding, perhaps these problems wont be so significant anymore..
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happened to read this thread, thought it be good that i share my feeding experience with all smile.gif

though dwarves like campbells and winter whites are said to be more prone in getting diabetics, feeding them moderate amounts of fruits daily will not cause them to have diabetics.

i have reared hamsters for 8 years. i started feeding moderate amounts of fresh food to all my hamsters which include syrians, campbells, winter whites and robos. it soon became their staple diet after seeing the good of it. they have nicer coats, lesser health problems and grow better in size too. btw growing better in size does not mean that the hamster is obese tongue.gif hamsters in US and UK are way bigger than mine and have competed in national competitions to win awards.

compared to my syrians, the portions i gave to my dwarves are 50% way lesser. the idea is to introduce assorted varieties of fruits and vegetables to them in moderate amounts so that they get all sorts of nutritional value of vitamins and minerals etc to live a healthier lifestyle.

i have kept more than 100s of dwarves over these years and i have not had any one of them with diabetics due to this fresh food diet. so feeding half tablespoon of a smoothie blend with only a ratio of 3:1 veges:fruits of a 350ml tub as compared to my portion of 20 cents coin size each of 2-3 assorted fruits is really minimal.

besides myself, i've had many friends who also put their hamsters on this diet and all of them have seen and believe the good of it nod.gif

for those interested to know what are the list of veges and fruits that can be fed to our hamsters, can refer to these links that i researched and documented few years ago. though not a complete list of all the vegetables and fruits that i have fed, it has covered most of it.

List Of Veges
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^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 26 2008, 10:07 PM)
do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)
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Any prove from ur statement?

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 27 2008, 12:11 AM)
i think i do it here. so newbie can see also.

this diet is feeding on all hamster for yrs.  the only difference is i blended it n easy for everyone to keep the blended food rather keeping the whole veges n fruits. this is explain n into in my wts about how Nutri-smoothie come.  and there is no problem with the ww rc n robos eating this diet set for yrs.

it is same on feeding fresh. why most of the info say canot feed too much fresh, it will cos diarrhea? cos there is no one leading to feed the BALANCED fresh diet.  that is why diarrhea can happen.  ppl who feed smoothie to their hamster can prove on this. if their hamster diarrhea?

if u ONLY feeding fruits to RC of cos they get sick, even human take too much appless can get sick.  every diet in about BALANCED, that is why i always CAP LOCK the word BALANCED.
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Agreed with ur statement laugh.gif

QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 12:41 AM)
well of cos i didnt simply say.. i only raise the matter now after so long cos i dont wanna simply assume.. it has always been advised not to feed RCs with fruits becos of the sugar content.. very few ppl have RCs.. so that's y no complaint so far?

i'm not against anyone or anything here.. there's no benefit for me doing so.. i just wanna raise some concern.. so that all those with RCs can observe their hammies & give proper feedback.. if really no negative effect on their health, then wouldnt it be a new discovery?

i'm not giving a one-off statement & everyone should follow what i say.. but i guess this matter should be discussed in the proper thread & that's y i posted here for everybody to comment & understand my concern..

regarding diarrhea, there are sites that suggest that average amount of fresh will do no harm.. but about feeding fresh to RCs, i've never seen any specific positive comments regarding the matter..

also, someone also addressed the matter to me.. which is why i wanted to ask publicly..
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mind posting the sites here?

QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 27 2008, 12:52 AM)
From your reply you don't seem like asking publicly their opinions here. All you just said is "Crazymouse say cannot give smoothie so cannot give to RC smoothie lor" without asking for their opinions wor...

~This looks like its directed to the smoothie to me. Anyone else?
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100% agreed with u blurjoey.
@jayniel from what i can see, this is not a statement with prove.
are you jealous with nezumitaro's product or what?
why not give us some PROVE instead of statementt, that any of ur RC or anyone RCs here in this thread or any LYN members or non-LYN members that are dead or diarrhea or obesity or whatever they call it.
huh?

QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 01:11 AM)
let's wait for Nezu's answer.. it must have been tested on RCs for anyone to be SURE that the smoothie wont trigger diabetes in RCs..

btw, if u all did some research, not all RCs have diabetes in their line.. it's a hereditary disease.. therefore tests must be done in different lines of RCs.. this thing, it's all up to RCs owners to voice up.. non-RC owners, unless got a strong point to prove, may refrain from shooting at my way of approach..

@sangles: that's my point.. how if those who give smoothie to RCs happen to have diabetic RCs? they wouldnt have realised it's from the smoothie cos everyone is complimenting it.. the concern is now whether the smoothie will trigger (not cause, but trigger) diabetes in RCs..

ps/ i'm not sensitive la.. even non-sensitive ppl also can see that..
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lor? i tot uve seen any RC that are dead or got diarrhea or obesity with ur own eyes before posting about the product u mention in ur statement before this. why should wait for her answer?
if u dont have any prove, than why simply blames smoothie are the caused of RC gonna have diabetic?


p/s:who that so non-sensitive ppl? anyone?
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i guess outsiders that dont know what really happen should refrain from making personal attacks.. u had no idea y i raise this topic.. but i believed this will make a clear cut statement, so might as well we resolve here.. either can feed or cannot feed..

btw, it wasnt me who said cannot feed the smoothie.. so by quoting the person's statements, how come i kena.. why should i be jealous? how did it negatively affect me? how come so many ppl interpret it differently.. sigh, it's ur own mentality..

it's not wrong to question anyone's products.. if the person has faith in it, he/she can reply me directly & tell me i'm wrong & provide details.. unfortunately there are also other ppl who dont know anyth & straight away rush to defend her..

ps/ that non-sensitive ppl is me lar.. sweat.gif

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do read carefuly thank you.

Jayniel, I do not posses the linguistic skills that you do and therefore I was not able to articulate myself in the manner that Chipmon has. It was for this very reason that I requested for Chipmon to explain in detail with regards to the diet.

I am very well aware of what components go into a proper hammie's diet as I have done research in detail. I used the one BALANCED because that is exactly what it is. It is a BALANCED diet. By the way, there is no necessity to be sarcastic here.

On another note, if you had doubts about the smoothie, you could have just PMed me instead of asking leading questions here about who has RCs and immediately saying that the person should not feed the smoothie - on an open forum. This just seems vindictive.

Is there a reason why you are so against the smoothie? I believe you took a FREE sample when I was giving out samples but yet as far as I know, you have not purchased any. Correct me if I am wrong though. Was the smoothie not beneficial to your hammies?

I do not understand why the sudden earlier declaration: so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor.

For you to make direct accusations like that must mean that you have PROOF that smoothies are very bad for RCs. In the same way, you have asked me for proof, I too would like to ask you what proof you have to make derogatory remarks about the smoothie.

Perhaps, I have misunderstood your intentions or perhaps you too are not able to communicate in a proper manner.

thank you.


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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 01:53 AM)
^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 26 2008, 11:34 PM)
difference person have difference opinion.Β  the balanced freah is feed to rc, ww n robos for yrs without problem.Β  as crazymouse said b4, its always say feeding hamster will cos diarrhea. but smoothie hv prove than there is not diarrhea.

i hope you can get the real prove b4 u post the statement up.

edit: i guess i better put it up here.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 27 2008, 12:11 AM)
i think i do it here. so newbie can see also.

this diet is feeding on all hamster for yrs.Β  the only difference is i blended it n easy for everyone to keep the blended food rather keeping the whole veges n fruits. this is explain n into in my wts about how Nutri-smoothie come.Β  and there is no problem with the ww rc n robos eating this diet set for yrs.
it is same on feeding fresh. why most of the info say canot feed too much fresh, it will cos diarrhea? cos there is no one leading to feed the BALANCED fresh diet.Β  that is why diarrhea can happen.Β  ppl who feed smoothie to their hamster can prove on this. if their hamster diarrhea?

if u ONLY feeding fruits to RC of cos they get sick, even human take too much appless can get sick.Β  every diet in about BALANCED, that is why i always CAP LOCK the word BALANCED.
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do read carefuly thank you.

Jayniel, I do not posses the linguistic skills that you do and therefore I was not able to articulate myself in the manner that Chipmon has. It was for this very reason that I requested for Chipmon to explain in detail with regards to the diet.

I am very well aware of what components go into a proper hammie's diet as I have done research in detail. I used the world BALANCED because that is exactly what it is. It is a BALANCED diet. By the way, there is no necessity to be sarcastic here.

On another note, if you had doubts about the smoothie, you could have just PMed me instead of asking leading questions here about who has RCs and immediately saying that the person should not feed the smoothie - on an open forum. This just seems vindictive.

Is there a reason why you are so against the smoothie? I believe you took a FREE sample when I was giving out samples but yet as far as I know, you have not purchased any. Correct me if I am wrong though. Was the smoothie not beneficial to your hammies?

I do not understand why the sudden earlier declaration: so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor.

For you to make direct accusations like that must mean that you have PROOF that smoothies are very bad for RCs. In the same way, you have asked me for proof, I too would like to ask you what proof you have to make derogatory remarks about the smoothie.

Perhaps, I have misunderstood your intentions or perhaps you too are not able to communicate in a proper manner.

thank you.


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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 02:13 AM)
it's not wrong to question anyone's products.. if the person has faith in it, he/she can reply me directly & tell me i'm wrong & provide details.. unfortunately there are also other ppl who dont know anyth & straight away rush to defend her..
Yes, I totally agree it is not wrong to question anyone's products but you did not question. You made a direct statement shocking.gif : if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor
To me, this does not sound like questioning a product. Perhaps, that is why some people made personal attacks and interpreted exactly what you wrote?
If your real intention is to question (perhaps you accused unintentionally), then it may be best that you edit your post in order for people not to be misled and also so that you are not accused of making false statements

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smile.gif are u referring to me? so ur saying its all hun's fault for the wrong statement that saying RC cannot be fed with smoothie or fresh, that u indirectly agreed with it? ur gonna confused all the newbies about the BALANCED and AFFORDABLE hamster food/supplement
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@jayniel, i understand that you are just trying to pass a msg from crazymouse.. so, it is best that she come here herself to clear things up because this statement had already upset alot if SMOOTHIE supporters ,including me..
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copy from my post #485, as someppl say canot read post #485

QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 01:53 AM)
^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 26 2008, 11:34 PM)
difference person have difference opinion.  the balanced freah is feed to rc, ww n robos for yrs without problem.  as crazymouse said b4, its always say feeding hamster will cos diarrhea. but smoothie hv prove than there is not diarrhea.

i hope you can get the real prove b4 u post the statement up.

edit: i guess i better put it up here.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 27 2008, 12:11 AM)
i think i do it here. so newbie can see also.

this diet is feeding on all hamster for yrs.  the only difference is i blended it n easy for everyone to keep the blended food rather keeping the whole veges n fruits. this is explain n into in my wts about how Nutri-smoothie come.  and there is no problem with the ww rc n robos eating this diet set for yrs.
it is same on feeding fresh. why most of the info say canot feed too much fresh, it will cos diarrhea? cos there is no one leading to feed the BALANCED fresh diet.  that is why diarrhea can happen.  ppl who feed smoothie to their hamster can prove on this. if their hamster diarrhea?

if u ONLY feeding fruits to RC of cos they get sick, even human take too much appless can get sick.  every diet in about BALANCED, that is why i always CAP LOCK the word BALANCED.
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do read carefuly thank you.

Jayniel, I do not posses the linguistic skills that you do and therefore I was not able to articulate myself in the manner that Chipmon has. It was for this very reason that I requested for Chipmon to explain in detail with regards to the diet.

I am very well aware of what components go into a proper hammie's diet as I have done research in detail. I used the one BALANCED because that is exactly what it is. It is a BALANCED diet. By the way, there is no necessity to be sarcastic here.

On another note, if you had doubts about the smoothie, you could have just PMed me instead of asking leading questions here about who has RCs and immediately saying that the person should not feed the smoothie - on an open forum. This just seems vindictive.

Is there a reason why you are so against the smoothie? I believe you took a FREE sample when I was giving out samples but yet as far as I know, you have not purchased any. Correct me if I am wrong though. Was the smoothie not beneficial to your hammies?

I do not understand why the sudden earlier declaration: so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor.

For you to make direct accusations like that must mean that you have PROOF that smoothies are very bad for RCs. In the same way, you have asked me for proof, I too would like to ask you what proof you have to make derogatory remarks about the smoothie.

Perhaps, I have misunderstood your intentions or perhaps you too are not able to communicate in a proper manner.

thank you.


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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 02:13 AM)
it's not wrong to question anyone's products.. if the person has faith in it, he/she can reply me directly & tell me i'm wrong & provide details.. unfortunately there are also other ppl who dont know anyth & straight away rush to defend her..
Yes, I totally agree it is not wrong to question anyone's products but you did not question. You made a direct statement shocking.gif : if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor
To me, this does not sound like questioning a product. Perhaps, that is why some people made personal attacks and interpreted exactly what you wrote?
If your real intention is to question (perhaps you accused unintentionally), then it may be best that you edit your post in order for people not to be misled and also so that you are not accused of making false statements

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@jayniel
smile.gif are u referring to me? so ur saying its all hun's fault for the wrong statement that saying RC cannot be fed with smoothie or fresh, that u indirectly agreed with it? ur gonna confused all the newbies about the BALANCED and AFFORDABLE hamster food/supplement
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lol a lot repeating post neh..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Aug 27 2008, 01:53 AM)
^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..
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I think she has said so and explained in the beginning. Maybe you don't understand only. tongue.gif I think BALANCED is the best word she can use, or else I can't think of other better word for it. Maybe you have better suggestion for the word? icon_idea.gif

P/S: Not everybody has good English background as you ler... blush.gif


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QUOTE(hazzy @ Aug 27 2008, 03:06 AM)
@jayniel
smile.gif are u referring to me? so ur saying its all hun's fault for the wrong statement that saying RC cannot be fed with smoothie or fresh, that u indirectly agreed with it? ur gonna confused all the newbies about the BALANCED and AFFORDABLE hamster food/supplement
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Not everybody is willing to spend for their pets la. It's affordable but doesn't mean that everyone will afford it mah. Some are just too stingy to spend for it and say their hamster do not like it or eat it or maybe can't get to the place to buy it where they are staying in KL or Selangor area. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

p/s: I think all newbies should be doing own study and research rather by just reading at one post or one page from this forum la. smile.gif

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Aug 26 2008, 11:47 PM)
I think it's best to avoid egg yolk. Not sure about egg york though tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

How did you cook the eggs? Boil? I think your robos just not yet use to the egg white only. Takes time.
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Hehe, of coz it was boiled... but they juz grabbed one, sniffed, and throw away. Damn swt~~
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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ Aug 27 2008, 03:24 AM)
lol a lot repeating post neh..
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cos last night forum abit problem.. u see one of my post weir weir.. n canot edit. sweat.gif come out all those < > computer code thingy which i dont know what is what..

QUOTE(bytefreezer @ Aug 27 2008, 08:22 AM)
Hehe, of coz it was boiled... but they juz grabbed one, sniffed, and throw away. Damn swt~~
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some hamster love egg, some don't. maybe u try chinese tou fu. which so far all my hamster love it. which is a good source of protein.
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lol...they don't eat boiled eggs? I thought they do...
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 27 2008, 09:19 AM)
lol...they don't eat boiled eggs? I thought they do...
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some yes some no. smile.gif just an other option to get protein is tou fu smile.gif
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ic...
hey, you guys were talking about some bath sand brands earlier...how about ALEX brand? The one that comes in Lemon, Lavender, Rose, Apple, etc...
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that i not sure.. wait ppl who use b4 to answer u hehehe..


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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 27 2008, 09:57 AM)
ic...
hey, you guys were talking about some bath sand brands earlier...how about ALEX brand? The one that comes in Lemon, Lavender, Rose, Apple, etc...
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Tried before Alex scented sand bath. It's really not much different than the normal non-scented kind. I think the scent is to make the hamster smell nicer to us humans. Don't think the hamster can tell which scent they like.
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Aug 27 2008, 09:57 AM)
ic...
hey, you guys were talking about some bath sand brands earlier...how about ALEX brand? The one that comes in Lemon, Lavender, Rose, Apple, etc...
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i think delikate sandbath will b good.. ppl do use oth brands and so far no complaint bout it..


QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Aug 27 2008, 10:17 AM)
that i not sure.. wait ppl who use b4 to answer u hehehe..
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dilemma? brows.gif
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QUOTE(mikelim2020 @ Aug 27 2008, 11:19 AM)
i think delikate sandbath will b good.. ppl do use oth brands and so far no complaint bout it..
dilemma? brows.gif
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cos i never use got perfume thingy hehe my nose canot tahan. included human perfume

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