even tho' they called it panda hamster, it is just a russian campbell.. the actual name of the color is mottled black..

@bytefreezer.. she just rehome today, better let her settle down first before introducing her to other hamsters.. she's been living with her sisters, therefore a sudden change of environment may stress her for a while.. just let her be on her own for the time being..

@mlinda.. not sifoo lar.. btw, it's mottled, not molted.. molted means change skin hehe..

cannot.

ya i agree.. those chewing stones are of no use.. they'll still bite the cage bars cos it taste better than the chewing stone/wood..

btw, try this method: put a stainless steel spoon in the cage.. hamsters like the taste of steel, so they will bite the spoon instead.. it could prevent the cage-biting habit.. i said 'could' cos not all hamsters are the same.. some may work but some may not.. i forgot this method was taught by who ady.. was it crazymouse?

@Jamien, the smell really stuck on ur hand ar? hmm.. that's kinda troublesome if cant be washed off..

for russian campbell & winter white, some of them will bathe in the bath sand while some wont.. i notice that if the mother loves to sand bath, most of the babies will follow suit.. but for others, it's very hard for me to train them.. but it should be ok, since their fur wont be as oily as robos..

anyone trained their hamster to sand bath before?

lolz interesting ques.. giving worms & smoothie will make the hammie fat & chubby..
but what's the difference? answer is, giving mealworms alone is like u eating fried chicken all the time, will become fat but wont be healthy..
therefore, mealworm is only an extra(give 4-5 mealworm per day is enough).. smoothie must come first.. with smoothie + good dry food, ur hamster will lead a good life..

i somehow feel that syrians are more interactive with humans compared to dwarfs.. am i right?

how bout normal water bottle? can rite..

then get those that are tamed

from my experience, most winter white will start to fight starting from 2 months old.. even for siblings.. that's y i started separating them since 1 month old..

separate at 1 month old..

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Added on August 26, 2008, 10:04 pmwho here keeps Russian Campbell hamsters?

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 26 2008, 10:04 PM

do u feed them with smoothie?

well, crazymouse told me that RCs cannot eat the smoothie.. which i agree as well.. so if anyone got RC, cannot give smoothie lor (sorry for being so direct)

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 26 2008, 10:08 PM

RCs are diabetic.. there are never recommended to take fruits.. only can eat veges.. fruits are high in sugar..

edit: i mean they are prone to diabetes..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 26 2008, 10:11 PM

well of cos i didnt simply say.. i only raise the matter now after so long cos i dont wanna simply assume.. it has always been advised not to feed RCs with fruits becos of the sugar content.. very few ppl have RCs.. so that's y no complaint so far?

i'm not against anyone or anything here.. there's no benefit for me doing so.. i just wanna raise some concern.. so that all those with RCs can observe their hammies & give proper feedback.. if really no negative effect on their health, then wouldnt it be a new discovery?

i'm not giving a one-off statement & everyone should follow what i say.. but i guess this matter should be discussed in the proper thread & that's y i posted here for everybody to comment & understand my concern..

regarding diarrhea, there are sites that suggest that average amount of fresh will do no harm.. but about feeding fresh to RCs, i've never seen any specific positive comments regarding the matter..

also, someone also addressed the matter to me.. which is why i wanted to ask publicly..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 27 2008, 12:44 AM

sigh, everyone being sensitive here.. i am directing to the smoothie, cos it contains fruits.. not to trigger war..
instead of shooting my way of approach, why not look at my point?

if Nezu has tested the smoothies on RCs then the case is settled.. if not, isnt it to early to say it wont harm them? i'm raising concern so that ppl be careful & start to be observant.. if i just keep quiet, do u think it'll be beneficial?

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Added on August 27, 2008, 1:04 amyup, syrians.. i'm concerned about Russian Campbell, especially those with diabetes in their genetics..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 27 2008, 01:04 AM

let's wait for Nezu's answer.. it must have been tested on RCs for anyone to be SURE that the smoothie wont trigger diabetes in RCs..

btw, if u all did some research, not all RCs have diabetes in their line.. it's a hereditary disease.. therefore tests must be done in different lines of RCs.. this thing, it's all up to RCs owners to voice up.. non-RC owners, unless got a strong point to prove, may refrain from shooting at my way of approach..

@sangles: that's my point.. how if those who give smoothie to RCs happen to have diabetic RCs? they wouldnt have realised it's from the smoothie cos everyone is complimenting it.. the concern is now whether the smoothie will trigger (not cause, but trigger) diabetes in RCs..

ps/ i'm not sensitive la.. even non-sensitive ppl also can see that..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 27 2008, 01:15 AM

i dont think that ALL RCs with diabetes in their line end up having diabetes.. there must be some factor to trigger it..

i do agree that breeding RCs are not easy.. one gotta choose those without genetic problems then only can breed.. that's y i've stopped breeding my RCs before ascertaining that they're free from genetic disorders.. but i have not tested for diabetes before.. all this while, i've only given fruits to my ww & robos, but not RCs, as there are just too many sites which are against RCs taking sugary foods.. Wikipedia specifically mentioned FRUITS..
therefore i hope this will make ppl stop & think (i'm referring to RC owners only, other hamsters no prob..)..

but dont be so against RCs lar.. once ppl start doing proper breeding, perhaps these problems wont be so significant anymore..

^ that's very informative.. it's good to have detailed explanation rather than just saying BALANCED diet.. if the smoothie has already been tested, i guess it has cleared all doubts.. ps/ should said so from the beginning..

i guess outsiders that dont know what really happen should refrain from making personal attacks.. u had no idea y i raise this topic.. but i believed this will make a clear cut statement, so might as well we resolve here.. either can feed or cannot feed..

btw, it wasnt me who said cannot feed the smoothie.. so by quoting the person's statements, how come i kena.. why should i be jealous? how did it negatively affect me? how come so many ppl interpret it differently.. sigh, it's ur own mentality..

it's not wrong to question anyone's products.. if the person has faith in it, he/she can reply me directly & tell me i'm wrong & provide details.. unfortunately there are also other ppl who dont know anyth & straight away rush to defend her..

ps/ that non-sensitive ppl is me lar..

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 27 2008, 02:15 AM

yo..
obviously u're talking bout me lar.. u do always seem to accuse without any proof.. the hamster u bought from me is inbred? what a joke! u think i only have few hamsters in stock till i have no choice but to inbreed them ar? have u seen an inbred hamster before? do u know how inbred hamsters look like? google before u comment.. and who is lack of nutrition? when u bought from me, how old was the hamster? 1 month old, or barely there.. u go around & look at petshops or other ppl's hamsters.. whose hamsters are big sized at 1 month old? i can guarantee u that my hamsters are bigger in size than those in petshops..

if u do not agree that malaysian hamsters are of poor quality, that's up to u.. just go walk around all the pet shops if u're so free, & observe the hamsters condition there.. and where do u think us breeders get our stock from? even if we chose the best hamster from the petshop, it is still of poorer quality than overseas..

btw, ur Ebony that u dump to me is similar in size with my adult hamsters.. obviously Ivory is way way older than ur new hamster, not just 1 week difference.. did u actually ask the petshop owner how old is the hamster? no right? u can only estimate her age, which is not precise.. if u're not satisfied with the hamster u bought from me, why buy?

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Added on August 27, 2008, 11:16 pmwell in case ppl misunderstood the difference of fresh & fruits..
fresh veges i've no prob with that.. only fruits, and u guys should know why by now..

nezu, have u been accustomed to receiving compliments about ur smoothie, that u become agitated when u see 1 line of bad comment? we, the users, have no idea what are the proportions of ur so called BALANCED smoothie.. therefore, misunderstanding is easy to happen.. it would be good to list the fruits & veges used in the smoothie, not so that we can steal ur recipe (in case some ppl may think that way), but so that we know what we are feeding to the hamsters, not just based on hear-say..
u've repeatedly said that the smoothie wont make u earn money.. if that's so, why not just share ur recipe to others? instead u chose to not disclose it & continue selling..

about not feeding the smoothie to my hamsters, i dont think it's a must for me.. i have lots of hamsters and it would be unwise for me to spend on smoothie if i can make my own combination of fresh foods at a cheaper cost (cos no need to spend on tupperware & sticker labels).. also, i told u my problem regarding feeding the smoothie beforehand..

Reanne made an interesting point.. was a vet/nutritionist consulted?

This post has been edited by jayniel: Aug 27 2008, 11:16 PM