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post Jan 8 2008, 02:14 PM, updated 18y ago

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>< HAMSTERS ><

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Old thread Chubby Hamsters V4

A hamster is a rodent belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae. There are 5 types of hamsters, mainly the Syrian, Winter white dwarf, Russian campbell dwarf, Chinese hamsters and Roborovski hamsters.

SPECIES:

Syrians (Mesocricetus auratus)
They are the best known species in the pet industry. Syrians are also known as Golden Hamsters. Syrians are known as fancy hamsters of all the hamster species since they come in many colour varieties and also coat varieties... some can have long fur and some short fur, which we normally call Long Hairs and Short Hairs... also there is a fur type known as Rex.

The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.

Syrians are large and comfortable to hold. They do make suitable pets for children but under adult supervision.

Campbell's Hamster (Phodopus campbelli)
Campbells are probably the most popular of all dwarf hamsters since they come in many colour varieties that makes them attractive. The look similar to Winter White hamsters but they are actually different subspecies. So never mixbreed them.

Campbells are dwarfs... well, small hamsters. Please do not be fooled by petshops telling you mini hamsters and giving you a weird price. Anyway, they come in different colour and patterns but to breed, one must understand that hamsters that have any white spots or markings must never be bred together coz it can produce eyeless or teethless hamsters that die later... so if you were to breed, please read up.

These dwarfs may not be suitable for young children due to some dwarfs are bitey... and because of their small size, it would be harder for children to handle. Campbells are not aggressive biters, it is just that sometimes they will bite when you make them angry or startle them from their sleep.

Winter White Hamster (Phodopus sungorus)
WW are hamsters that can change their coat colour when we minimise their daylight. Their coats will change from their normal colours to a white coat but with their dorsal stripe and side arches visible. WW come in 3 colours, which are Agouti, Sapphire and Pearl. The Pearl do not change their coat colour at all, they remain in their white coat colour for life.

WW are different from Campbells, their eyes are bigger, fur is thicker, body is more bullet shape and their ears are less conspicious. It is easy to see the difference if a Campbell and WW were side by side.

WWs are nicer to handle for they have better temperments than Campbells. WW rarely change into their winter coats in captivity, so do not force your hamster to starve and stay in a cold room... this depends on the hamster whether it wants to change or not.

Roborovski Hamster (Phodopus roborovskii)
Robos are the smallest species of hamster. Adult Robos are only 2 inches in lenght. Unlike the other dwarfs, Robos do not have a dorsal stripe and they have slightly longer legs. Easy to identify from the size and also its sandy colour and white belly.

Yes, the smallest and also the fastest, this species is very well known for being very fast and active. So they are not very handle friendly since they are likely to jump or run off your palm. Many are really attracted by the facial markings, they appear to have "eyebrows".

Robos enjoy sand baths and a wheel. Due to their small size, one would need to purchase a glass/plastic tank to house them or purchase cages with small bars like the Habitrail Mini...

Chinese Hamster (Cricetulus griseus)
The Chinese hamster is known for their mousy looks. Yes, they were discovered in China long ago. Many people would say Chinese hamsters are hard to breed in captivity and are difficult to raise. Fighting problems occur so it is best to house them seperately. The Chinese hamster is also referred to as a "mouse-like" hamster because of its short nose, thin body, stocky legs and longer tail.

They do make great pets if they are bred by a proper breeder and have been handled often when young.


VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

- Most hamsters do very well alone. Roborovski hamsters can be kept in small groups and best if single sexed but Syrians, Campbells, Winter Whites and Chinese hamsters are best kept on their own. They are always happier that way.

- Never breed hamsters if you do not have the space. Hamsters can reproduce every 20 days or so.

- Hamster fights are never fun to watch.

- Always remember to have food and water available. Never give too much fresh foods.

- The bigger the cage or tank, the more comfortable for the hamster.

- Syrians need wheels that are about 8 inches in diameter.

- NEVER keep different species in 1 cage or tank together... BIG big trouble there, may have some injuries, deaths... and possibility of mixbreeding Campbells with WW... bad idea.

- Hamsters do not have human emotion, they do not feel Love or have emotional feelings like humans. So there really is no reason to breed them unless you have a purpose as a true hamster breeder.

- Hamsters can get sick easily if given too much fresh foods like fruits and vegetables.



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Added on February 26, 2007, 1:56 amPictures of the different hamster species with some example of a few colour varieties.

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Thank you to Reanne and |sorcerer| for their chinese hamsters and roborovski pictures.

One way to hold a hamster if it bites or to look at it's genital area clearly. Never do this for long since it is a bit uncomfortable for the hamster. Only for a short period.
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Useful links (credit to Acey)The Hamster Name Generator (thanks to Gazard7)

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Added on February 26, 2007, 9:25 pmA Basic Guide

* Hamsters are very active creatures so they do need their excercise. Naturally energetic, hamster love to run so it is best to provide a good solid wheel for them. Makre sure it is a solid wheel and not those mesh wheels since those gaps can cause injuries. Syrians should have 8 inch diameter wheels while dwarfs can have smaller ones.

* Hamsters are nocturnal, meaning they are mostly active at night. During the day, they would need some peace and quiet to sleep so it is highly recommended to place the cage or tank away from direct sunlight and provide them with a hide such as a clay flower pot or aroma burner or any solid looking hamster houses available at petshops.

* Hamsters need a layer of quality bedding in their tanks. You can always get the wood shaving variety but you would need to change the bedding often. Recommended brands would be Chipsi Classic, Chipsi Super, Delikate and Kaytee. Avoid using other brands for pine and cedar wood can cause breathing problems later in life due to the phenol oils produced by the wood. One can also use corncob bedding, wood pellets like Woody Pet or Careline wood cat litter or recycled paper bedding/litter like CareFresh or Breeder's Select/Celect.

* Hamsters love to nibble on hay and also build nest in their hide box for comfort. So providing a bit of hay is good. Any hay is suitable, as long it is fresh looking(greenish). Avoid stale hay(brownish).

* Hamsters should have a good amount of food in their food bowls. You do not need to worry about hamsters not finishing their food for they will hoard away old food to eat later. Make sure fresh foods are cleaned out of the cage or tank after 24 hours.
- Good source of fiber would be broccoli, spinach, sawi(choy sum), kangkung and water cress. Do feed fresh foods in moderation since too much can cause wet tail sickness and indigestion. A small piece of vegie or fruit is enough for 1 day.
- Sweet potato and normal potato can be given but only give cooked potatos.
- Sweet fruits and carrots can be given in small quantities every few days.
- Hard boiled eggs, scrambled eggs, cooked chicken and cooked fish can be fed.

* Have a good quality bottle for water at hand. Cheap bottles tend to leak.

* Wash the hamster cage or tank once in a week. Just wash with some mild soapy water. Clean cages and tanks prevents the risk of getting infections.

* Hamsters do not need to bath with water and soap like humans. Hamsters can clean themselves very well and they enjoy having sand baths (Chincilla or hamster sandbath) more than getting wet. A wet hamster can fall sick easily.

* Handle your hamster daily. Build a relationship with your hamster. You can hold them, talk to them and pat them. These little gestures will keep your hamster tame and friendly and of course, happy.

* Never wake up sleeping hamsters since they can startle easily and give a nasty bite to protect themselves. This is an instinct reaction so do not blame a hamster for being aggressive... they bite when there is a reason to bite.

* Always wash your hands after handling hamsters for they are still from the rodent family. Keep your self healthy for your hamster smile.gif


QUOTE(bizen @ May 30 2007, 05:26 PM)
blink.gif  I found some articles and 1 of it is about hamsters... I bought it a few years back when I am still in high school  laugh.gif ... and I would like to share it with everyone here  tongue.gif 

Here is the link:

Hamster Guide 01

Hamster Guide 02

Hamster Guide 03

Hamster Guide 04

Have fun reading  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Pictures of LYN members' tank setups:
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Pictures of suitable cages available in the market
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About CAGES

Choose your cage wisely.

Syrians need to be living alone, and of course being the bigger version of hamsters, they need bigger cages or tanks.

Use 2ft plastic Guppy Aquarium tanks, normally sold at RM40 to RM50 at most petshops. If a cage, never use Habitrail Mini or small 30cm cages. Invest in something bigger or a double storey cage with solid levels, such as Critter Trail.

Winter Whites and Russian Cambell Dwarf Hamsters are best housed alone or in sibling pairs. They actually do fight for territory, so always keep an eye on them. Small cages are way bad for them. A Habitrail Safari or Habitrail Playground is good for 1 hamster, if you want to keep 2, invest in 2 cages or get connections and other fun accessories by Habitrail. They have short lifespans, but are amazing pets so keep them happy. Always remember, the BIGGER, the BETTER!

Roborovskis and Chinese Dwarfs can be kept in Habitrail Minis because of their smaller bodies and slender built. 2 Robos fit well in a Habitrail Safari or Habitrail Mini. Do not use cheap local cages for them as they can get hurt and escape. Invest in a Plastic tank if you need to.

To be continued with more tank pictures by members.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Apr 9 2007, 04:46 AM)
Steps when your ham has just given birth.

1) Put them in a quiet place of the house.
2) Do not disturb them except for refilling food and water.
3) Do not change the bedding no matter how smelly it is for the next 21 to 24 days.
4) Remove the male. If not you'll have another batch of pink wriggly things in approximately 20 days.
5) Add protein rich supplements such as:-

-Fresh veggies -> Broccoli, alfalfa sprouts, carrots, watercress, choy sum etc. Make sure washed well. Avoid onions, garlic.

-Fresh fruits -> Apple, banana, papaya, honeydew, pear, mango etc. Do not give avocado and citrus fruits.

-Other protein rich stuff -> Wheatgerm, japanese soft tofu, hard boiled egg white, crickets, mealworms etc. Do not give milo or anything containing cocoa.

6) DO NOT TOUCH THE BABIES. If you really want to peek, wait for at least 3 - 4 days, then use the end of a pencil or brush, rub it in the bedding before gently prying a little to see the pinkies.

Reasons to why most or all the babies do not survive or disappear.

1) The mom feels that she does not have enough nutrition to suckle so many babies. She will cull the weakest one first.

2) The mom feels scared or threatened, so her instinct tells her to cull the babies so that she will have the nutrition and get away in order to be able to have another batch of babies in the near future instead of just leaving the babies to the predator/threat. In the wild, if she thinks that the predator is so darn near and gonna eat her any minute, she'll make a run for it. Leaving the babies without a choice.

But as pets, they don't have that option.

3) The baby is sick/injured and/or dying. She will instinctively kill it so that it hasn't a chance to pass whatever that made it sick if it's an infectious disease, and/or eat it to regain lost nutrition.

NOTE: If the baby dies, most ham mothers WILL eat their babies because if she just leaves it, the stench of rotting flesh will attract unwanted company.

4) She's not a good mom. Though most hams are good mothers, there are bound to be a few that will not suckle their babies and probably just step on them a lot. This will need extra attention to spot so that the unattended pups can be given to a foster mother.

Do not confuse this behaviour when seen in the first few hours after birth. It's normal, especially for first time moms, to ignore their pups for the first few hours. Just leave them be and they will usually know what to do.

A few clear rules

1) All pregnant females should be given their own cage each to nurse and have the pups grow. Do ensure there is enough room for them to exercise and run about.

2) DO NOT KEEP A PAIR TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING A PARTNER. A single sex pair is sufficient for that purpose.

3) Syrian hamster matings MUST be supervised. Syrians are SOLITARY, meaning they cannot live together.

4) Do not breed if possible. Breeding is not a FUN thing for them. It's a burden that will shorten their lifespan, nothing more.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Feb 27 2007, 10:27 PM)
OK! Bedding Reviews!

Bedding reviews

- Any beddings that contain raw percentage of phenols will not be reviewed here as I do not recommend them at all. If anyone's wondering, phenols are hydrocarbons that are released by softwoods such as pine and cedar that can promote liver, lung and intestinal problems when housed on. Pets such as hamsters, rats and gerbils can be severely affected by such hydrocarbons in a very short amount of time due to their high-metabolism and oxygen intake.

If you find it hard to imagine, then take disinfectant or lysol, drench a cloth with it, then sleep on it. This is exactly what's happening to your beloved pet. The germicidal properties from disinfectant is commercially extracted from pine and cedar sap. Imagine what it can do to their sensitive lungs and liver.

- Absorbency > To rate how good the absorption and odour control is.
- Cleanliness > To rate whether it's messy or neat.
- Dust content > To rate whether the dust content is high or low. A higher rating means lower dust content.
- Appearance > To rate whether it looks presentable, dull or just plain ugly.
- Advantages > Self explanatory.
- Disadvantages > Self explanatory.
- Status > Comments and recommendation.
10 = A must try
9 = Very good
8 = Quite good
7 = Good
6 = Okay
5 = Satisfactory
4 = Not so good
3 = Not good
2 = BAD
1 = Caution. Try at own risk.
0 = You have been warned

Kaytee

Aspen
- Absorbency > 6
- Cleanliness > 5
- Dust content > 6
- Appearance > 7
- Advantages > Economical, does not contain phenols(safe), good for building nests.
- Disadvantages > A little dusty, absorbency is rather average and due to absence of phenols, inspection for any mites is advised before purchase.
- Status > Neutral

Pine
- Absorbency > 6
- Cleanliness > 6
- Dust content > 7
- Appearance > 6
- Advantages > Economical, contains minimal phenols due to being kiln-dried.
- Disadvantages > Should be changed regularly as it does not contain the phenols that help suppress the smell of defacation. Will release a rather pungent      odour if not changed regularly.
- Status > Neutral

Kaykob
- Absorbency > 4
- Cleanliness > 7
- Dust content > 9
- Appearance > 7
- Advantages > No phenols(safe).
- Disadvantages > Will turn moldy when exposed to humidity or when not changed regularly. Can attract mites. Can be very noisy when dug into due to it      hitting the tank walls.
- Status > Recommended for low-urine producing pets. eg. Gerbils.

Chloropyhll pine

- Absorbency > 7
- Cleanliness > 7
- Dust content > 7
- Appearance > 7 (I like the appearance)
- Advantages > Minimum phenols due to being kiln-dried. Absorbency slightly better than the regular Kaytee pine.
- Disadvantages >  Should be changed regularly as it does not contain the phenols that help suppress the smell of defacation. Will release a rather pungent        odour if not changed regularly.
- Status > Neutral

Breeder Celect & B2N (Back2Nature)

- Absorbency > 8
- Cleanliness > 9
- Dust content > 9
- Appearance > 5
- Advantages > Clean and neat. No phenols at all. Enviromentally friendly (Made from recycled newspaper) Good absorbency. Easy to clean.
- Disadvantages > More expensive. Dull appearance.
- Status > Recommended

Woody Pet wood pellets

- Absorbency > 10
- Cleanliness > 8
- Dust content > 8
- Appearance > 7
- Advantages > Very good absorption.
- Disadvantages > Rather heavy due to high compression. Quite hard, but can be seasoned by sprinkling water introducing pet. Strong woody smell.
- Status > Recommended for high ammonia producing pets. eg. Syrian hamsters, hedgehogs, guinea pigs, rabbits, stinky male sugar gliders.

Sluis comfort bedding

- Absorbency > 5
- Cleanliness > 5
- Dust content > 1
- Appearance > 3
- Advantages > I don't see any.
- Disadvantages > Extremely dusty. I had trouble breathing when i used it.
- Status > Not recommended.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jun 24 2007, 07:51 PM)
This thread is dedicated to the countless clueless people that open threads just to ask about (read topic) and waste time by waaaitinnnng for other experienced people to reply. While waiting, anything could go wrong.

The Ultimate Rule

Now, the ultimate first and foremost thing you should do is DO NOT TOUCH THE BABIES!

Why? Because the mother might eat them, that's why.

Now 'Why would the mother eat them?' you ask?

-When hamster babies are born, known as pups, they have no scent and the mother recognizes it as her own because of her instincts. If you touch it, they will smell like something else and she will not recognize it as her offspring, but rather as something that's not supposed to be there, or she will mistake it as another female's pup. Being defensive that it may harm her babies, she will attack it and eat it up, brains, limbs organs and all.

Cannibalism is not uncommon for hamsters as it is a form of protection. Though you may have obeyed the first rule, it doesn't mean all the pups will 100% survive.

If the environment is stressful(Lots of noise, in a busy area, too bright etc), the nutritional requirements are not enough, or even if the mom is just not a good mom, you may lose from one to all your pups.

The First Rule

Give her as much food as she wants and supplements.

Oh, does that mean give her what she likes? Can I give her only kuaci?


No. Kuaci aka sunflower seeds are not good if she takes a lot. It's empty fats and not enough for her to raise a healthy bunch of babies. Giving only kuaci is like you living on peanuts. BUT, this doesn't mean you should feed her kuaci at all. Give her small amounts as sunflower seeds have Vitamin E and carbs, but very fattening.

Then what can I feed her?

First off, are you feeding her a good basic diet? No delikate or Bengy please. They not balanced at all and they're cheap because they're very low in quality, meaning very low in nutrition.

Good basic brands are Harry Hamster and Prestige, Sluis is also quite alright. No idea where to get these? You can try Pet Safari or Pets family.

Supplements are fresh fruits, vegetables, hard boiled egg white, wheatgerm, organic grains such as amaranth, raw peanuts, buckwheat, flaxseeds etc. Mealworms and crickets are great as treats as well as protein.
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Jan 8 2008, 03:34 PM)
sorry pics blur abit >< ...she's around 8 months old
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issit pregnant..so fat
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 8 2008, 04:35 PM)
issit pregnant..so fat
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no..lol been living alone since around 2 months old
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Reply for Thread V5:

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Pet Shack smell fine for me as my nose is very allergic to smell sweat.gif , but I found Pet Shack is very clean and not smelly, of cos sure have animals smells wink.gif So don't worry about that smile.gif

#Won:
I miss Joan's Moon too... wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

#Core_Tracer:
There are more worse and smelly Pet shops around, you'll know if you do pet shop hopping like us shocking.gif Like the one we went in Ipoh, I've been sneezing the whole day after I entered the shop and feel so uncomfortable sweat.gif sweat.gif






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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 8 2008, 05:28 PM)

#Core_Tracer:
There are more worse and smelly Pet shops around, you'll know if you do pet shop hopping like us  shocking.gif Like the one we went in Ipoh, I've been sneezing the whole day after I entered the shop and feel so uncomfortable  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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AGREED!!! nod.gif the ones in brickfield and petaling street are also like that. I always have to hold my breath. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 8 2008, 05:36 PM)
lol.......stop teasing me about the smell aready...haha
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Ops... Don't mean to tease blush.gif just you are the only example who have such a strong sense of smells blink.gif blink.gif


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AGREED!!!  nod.gif the ones in brickfield and petaling street are also like that. I always have to hold my breath.  shakehead.gif
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LOL whistling.gif whistling.gif Don't hold for too long, later short of breath sweat.gif sweat.gif just go to clean pet shops, solution for that icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

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I'm a noob here about the breeding stuff.
I have a question, Can I get pearl from 2 Normal Winter?
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QUOTE(-Nos- @ Jan 8 2008, 09:22 PM)
I'm a noob here about the breeding stuff.
I have a question, Can I get pearl from 2 Normal Winter?
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Nopes, you won't. You need to breed 1 normal to 1 pearl, then 50% are normals and 50% pearls....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 8 2008, 10:50 PM)
Nopes, you won't. You need to breed 1 normal to 1 pearl, then 50% are normals and 50% pearls....
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LOL.... I didn't study biology when I was in high school heheheh..... but breeding hamsters is all about genetics. Must learn mah heheheh.....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 8 2008, 11:35 PM)
LOL.... I didn't study biology when I was in high school heheheh..... but breeding hamsters is all about genetics. Must learn mah heheheh.....
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hahah...oh ya...if hammie too fat...got any side effects? like human will have high blood pressure and so
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Jan 8 2008, 11:38 PM)
hahah...oh ya...if hammie too fat...got any side effects? like human will have high blood pressure and so
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Yes, there will be. Fatty liver, fatty heart, so that is why they need a wheel ahahah....

But your line is from Reanne's line rite? They are somehow always round. Good lineage heheheh. You can rarely find round round WW unless so happened came from my old line or from Reanne's line.
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Yes, there will be. Fatty liver, fatty heart, so that is why they need a wheel ahahah....

But your line is from Reanne's line rite? They are somehow always round. Good lineage heheheh. You can rarely find round round WW unless so happened came from my old line or from Reanne's line.
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Really respect for Hun sifu!!! I studied Biology in high school even college but still I dunno about all these blush.gif expert means expert ler.. notworthy.gif

Now only I know hamster also can be fat due to genetic nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif


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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 8 2008, 11:41 PM)
Yes, there will be. Fatty liver, fatty heart, so that is why they need a wheel ahahah....

But your line is from Reanne's line rite? They are somehow always round. Good lineage heheheh. You can rarely find round round WW unless so happened came from my old line or from Reanne's line.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif Then should I try to make my Fumoffu fatter as he is too thin compare to Jack jack???

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wa...new thread already...
heheh..congrats to hun...congrats to all of us...

djrizz cute and chubby ww u had..
i also had ww ,from hun line

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QUOTE(kembara @ Jan 9 2008, 12:20 AM)

djrizz cute and chubby ww u had..
i also had ww ,from hun line
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hmm..all of them should be fat..but this fatty's sister is not fat....normal size only
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better some not fat la dj..
if all of them fat..later no room in tank or cage..
for my hammies collection, rc i think easier to be pump with food..later become ball...russian camp"ball"
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 9 2008, 12:17 AM)
Then should I try to make my Fumoffu fatter as he is too thin compare to Jack jack???
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Jack jack was fed a wide variety of fresh veges and Prestige when he was 3 weeks old onwards. I remember someone telling me that that contributes to them being large when they grow older. That's what I heard la.

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QUOTE(jtl @ Jan 9 2008, 12:46 AM)
Jack jack was fed a wide variety of fresh veges and Prestige when he was 3 weeks old onwards. I remember someone telling me that that contributes to them being large when they grow older. That's what I heard la.
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Yupe, I remember you told me that nod.gif but I'm still thinking of ways to make Fumoffu fatter as he is really thin, so much different when I hold Jackjack and Fumoffu in hand. Wonder I still can make him grow fatter by giving veges, supplements and good stuffs unsure.gif unsure.gif Hun said 1 raw cashew nut a day will help, but I'm still looking for raw cashew nuts sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 9 2008, 12:52 AM)
Yupe, I remember you told me that  nod.gif but I'm still thinking of ways to make Fumoffu fatter as he is really thin, so much different when I hold Jackjack and Fumoffu in hand. Wonder I still can make him grow fatter by giving veges, supplements and good stuffs unsure.gif  unsure.gif Hun said 1 raw cashew nut a day will help, but I'm still looking for raw cashew nuts  sweat.gif
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Organic shops should have ma
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QUOTE(kembara @ Jan 9 2008, 12:43 AM)
better some not fat la dj..
if all of them fat..later no room in tank or cage..
for my hammies collection, rc i think easier to be pump with food..later become ball...russian camp"ball"
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haha...but mine all living alone...scared of them already
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QUOTE(jtl @ Jan 9 2008, 12:54 AM)
Organic shops should have ma
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Thanks for the info ya! I'll go check it out with the organic shop. I'll give him 1 per day and the rest I can make some snacks for CYN rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Waiting for the playpan thumbup.gif
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can we train our hamsters to sit on our shoulder? I saw in movie they can, hehe. I wanna train MoFo biggrin.gif but he is so jakun when i let him out, go here and there exploring sweat.gif

Miki nipped me just now, hehe cos I hold him too long and don't want to put him down biggrin.gif. I think he is a cream banded satin, his hair bit bit shiny like that?
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anyone tried living world bedding before?
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Ops... Don't mean to tease  blush.gif  just you are the only example who have such a strong sense of smells  blink.gif  blink.gif


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LOL  whistling.gif  whistling.gif Don't hold for too long, later short of breath  sweat.gif  sweat.gif just go to clean pet shops, solution for that  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Hehehe, I never go to smelly petshop more than once. One time go, if already smelly and I need to hold my breath, I dont go anymore. smile.gif
I like pet shop hopping, just check out if got interesting stuff for my pets. Bad habit actually, cos I end up buying things I dont really need, just because only. sweat.gif


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anyone tried living world bedding before?
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Dont use! It is pine bedding and crazymouse already adviced me last time when I first got hamster tongue.gif Now I use the corncob + delikate.
But I agree when I used it for a while it covers the pee smell very good... but that's because of that dangerous phenol thing that can lead to lungs problem to our hamsters la.

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kk...coz i din go out..and i ask my gf to buy for me...then she say the boss say alot ppl buy that brand n recommend it..she she also buy lo...but she say can change la...
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kk...coz i din go out..and i ask my gf to buy for me...then she say the boss say alot ppl buy that brand n recommend it..she she also buy lo...but she say can change la...
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Hmm true. Everywhere also got sell that one actually. sweat.gif ok lar if can change..
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Hun, update on Charm, he's well n fine, gain some weight lately not as skinny dee. smile.gif

btw, Jtl is petshack owner? blink.gif
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I think Jtl is petshack owner tongue.gif

Anyway this is MoFo's latest pics. Took it when we hang out on my bed watching TV.

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Wahlau... You really nocturnal like hamsters... tongue.gif

JTL is the owner of Pet Shack. I think all her hammies are very tamed. Fumoffu is half tamed. He has bitten me and sangels' fingers until today and still doing so sad.gif
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QUOTE(Lance8431 @ Jan 9 2008, 02:18 AM)
Hellew wave.gif
Hun, update on Charm, he's well n fine, gain some weight lately not as skinny dee. smile.gif

btw, Jtl is petshack owner? blink.gif
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Great to know Charm is fine. Now I got a baby RC, he is Charm's nephew.... looks just like Charm, fat fat hahahah.

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I think Jtl is petshack owner tongue.gif

Anyway this is MoFo's latest pics. Took it when we hang out on my bed watching TV.

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Wah.... 3am still not asleep ahhaha. Bi-colour, that's a good pic, not so clear but it did get his coloured eyes well.

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Wahlau... You really nocturnal like hamsters... tongue.gif

JTL is the owner of Pet Shack. I think all her hammies are very tamed. Fumoffu is half tamed. He has bitten me and sangels' fingers until today and still doing so sad.gif
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Half tame? Maybe he bully you and sangels lah heheheh.....
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Half tame? Maybe he bully you and sangels lah heheheh.....
sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif He will bite when on my hands or when we try to pick him up. Like jaws, all a sudden open his mouth when near the fingers...

Want to ask can hamsters eat crickets, mealworms or superworms ar? Is it good for them? Where can get small quantity as I saw pet shops selling big packs?

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sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif He will bite when on my hands or when we try to pick him up. Like jaws, all a sudden open his mouth when near the fingers...

Want to ask can hamsters eat crickets, mealworms or superworms ar? Is it good for them? Where can get small quantity as I saw pet shops selling big packs?
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Yah.... seems like he is bullying you hahah.

Yes, hamsters can take insects as well but then not every hamster likes them. My syrians do not like mealworms.... my gerbils like them.

You go to a shop that sells aquarium fish and ask for RM1 bread worms.

In Cantonese is Mein Pau Chung, in Malay is Ulat kecil....
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yesterday i went to the vet to check why my hamster sneezes.
the doc said its nothing harmful. just normal sneezing. rolleyes.gif



Missgeek,
your Mofo eyes is the same like my Montee.
bi-colour also..maybe becoz we bought them from the same place,so they are siblings maybe? hmm.gif hmm.gif

i've been bitten by my Montee twice and bleed. sweat.gif sweat.gif
but it wont stop me to play with him.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 9 2008, 12:27 PM)
Yah.... seems like he is bullying you hahah.

Yes, hamsters can take insects as well but then not every hamster likes them. My syrians do not like mealworms.... my gerbils like them.

You go to a shop that sells aquarium fish and ask for RM1 bread worms.

In Cantonese is Mein Pau Chung, in Malay is Ulat kecil....
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How to get him to stop bullying? At least JackJack doesn't do that. He will climb our hands instead of biting.
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 9 2008, 12:37 PM)
yesterday i went to the vet to check why my hamster sneezes.
the doc said its nothing harmful. just normal sneezing.  rolleyes.gif
Missgeek,
your Mofo eyes is the same like my Montee.
bi-colour also..maybe becoz we bought them from the same place,so they are siblings maybe? hmm.gif  hmm.gif

i've been bitten by my Montee twice and bleed. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
but it wont stop me to play with him.
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Heheh, I am very sure they are siblings... I also last time dunno which one to pick... but I picked mofo because of the 3 dots at his back biggrin.gif Also because he has bicolor eyes, hehe.

The hamsters at petshack is tame... half tame maybe because still cautious with new smell. But they are tame compared to other syrians I've seen, they allow u to be picked up. THANK GOD Mofo never bite me sweat.gif I think u kacau montee sleep la soulx. biggrin.gif Or ur hand smell delicious, after eating nasi bungkus, haha!
One thing I always do with Mofo is to put my hand in the tanks first... touch2 him abit before I picked him up. They are very blind... sudden move will scared the hell out of them. My mission now is to train him to sit on shoulder tongue.gif. I hope he could also lie dead on his back when I hold him flat face up. So cute I see a lot of hamsters here can do that.

My taming process is taking a long time with the rest of the babies. All are still half tame. sad.gif I also take things very slow cos I don't wanna push my luck and got bitten, hehe. They can play on my hand, I used the scoop with toilet roll or exercise ball method to transfer them to my palm. It takes a while also for them to step onto my palm, sniff here and there first, like shud I, shudn't I? I tried picking Mokie and Miki by hand before, I can only do half way before they fly from my hands, hehe. (I also scared to grip harder... if got bitten painful leh). Mobee... curious lil fella but so eksyen one, he avoids my hand like a plague. unsure.gif

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Yeah.. that's what my mom told me too. Same like my hamsters, dont sleep at nite, hahah. I wish I am fully nocturnal, but I need to wake up go to work haha! same like hamsters also, grumpy when ppl kacau me sleep blush.gif

Oh, maybe fumoffu bite cos he can smell jack jack? A lot of methods can be used for taming, like familiarise him with ur smell. Rub ur hands in his bedding before pick him up. Always come to him with nice treats so that he knows when u come means food. Now I realised I never go to my hamsters empty handed, sure got something for them, even just to pass one sunflower seed (or 2, or 3.. hehe). I think MoFo tolerate me because I'm his walking giant with nice treats, hahaha! He thinks biting me will bring him more harm than good, hahahaha!

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Yeah, not clear... only take with handphone, somemore camera lousy, in the dark pic not so good biggrin.gif
The only reason I can take his pic on the bed is because he was mesmerized by the flash hahaha. Suddenly keep quiet look at the camera tongue.gif If not he's busy exploring my bed and me, funny fatso.
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Question:

I am using the Habitrail mini. I am having the hamster for like almost 2 months.
I notice that the water in the Mushroom Oasis gone in 1 day then I found that the bedding in 1 area is wet. (Wierd part is the wet area is the opposite direction of where the water is)
Sometimes the water can last for a week. Oh wait. There was only 1 time it can last for a week. LOL.
I usually clean and replace on weekly basis, the most water only last for 3 days.
I can see the water level still very high and near the top on 2nd day but on 3rd day, the water totally gone.
I wonder how the hamster moved the water?? hmmmm..
Shall I change to those dripping bottol?

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Question:

I am using the Habitrail mini. I am having the hamster for like almost 2 months.
I notice that the water in the Mushroom Oasis gone in 1 day then I found that the bedding in 1 area is wet. (Wierd part is the wet area is the opposite direction of where the water is)
Sometimes the water can last for a week. Oh wait. There was only 1 time it can last for a week. LOL.
I usually clean and replace on weekly basis, the most water only last for 3 days.
I can see the water level still very high and near the top on 2nd day but on 3rd day, the water totally gone.
I wonder how the hamster moved the water?? hmmmm..
Shall I change to those dripping bottol?

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Hmmm... I think u shud. At least you can monitor the water intake closely. With bottles, the water is not contaminated with other stuff like food, beddings etc.
Easier to change or refill water too wink.gif But that's my preference lah.
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How to get him to stop bullying? At least JackJack doesn't do that. He will climb our hands instead of biting.
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When ever you pick him up, push something into his mouth. I normally use some veggie or apple. Kuaci also can. It keeps them occupied.

QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 9 2008, 02:06 PM)
Question:

I am using the Habitrail mini. I am having the hamster for like almost 2 months.
I notice that the water in the Mushroom Oasis gone in 1 day then I found that the bedding in 1 area is wet. (Wierd part is the wet area is the opposite direction of where the water is)
Sometimes the water can last for a week. Oh wait. There was only 1 time it can last for a week. LOL.
I usually clean and replace on weekly basis, the most water only last for 3 days.
I can see the water level still very high and near the top on 2nd day but on 3rd day, the water totally gone.
I wonder how the hamster moved the water?? hmmmm..
Shall I change to those dripping bottol?

Thanks.
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Oh, that Mushroom Oasis is bad. If you are using that, you should be changing the water everyday! Not weekly.... the water gets contaminated easily.

Change to a bottle. Bedding can get into the Mushroom Oasis, causing germs and bacteria build up.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 9 2008, 11:31 AM)
Great to know Charm is fine. Now I got a baby RC, he is Charm's nephew.... looks just like Charm, fat fat hahahah.
Wah.... 3am still not asleep ahhaha. Bi-colour, that's a good pic, not so clear but it did get his coloured eyes well.
Half tame? Maybe he bully you and sangels lah heheheh.....
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laugh.gif i bet its tame in your hands as well, hope it wont bully the new owner can dee tongue.gif
Only thing is i cant find a wheel low enuff to fit in his tank, a lil low but wide la his storage box.
Everytime change bedding he also happy running around in his clean space. smile.gif

by the way, nowadays all Syrian talk dee ah? laugh.gif

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Thx for the answer early on.
I have another thing on my mind now, I never see my hammies play the wheel before. Really sweat. I wonder is it the wheel too small ? Or some other thing I dunno...
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laugh.gif i bet its tame in your hands as well, hope it wont bully the new owner can dee  tongue.gif
Only thing is i cant find a wheel low enuff to fit in his tank, a lil low but wide la his storage box.
Everytime change bedding he also happy running around in his clean space. smile.gif

by the way, nowadays all Syrian talk dee ah? laugh.gif
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Now Syrian season.... well, I think coz they are cheaper and bigger to hold.

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Thx for the answer early on.
I have another thing on my mind now, I never see my hammies play the wheel before. Really sweat. I wonder is it the wheel too small ? Or some other thing I dunno...
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Your wheel may be too small. You should get a 6.5 inch wheel for WW.
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When ever you pick him up, push something into his mouth. I normally use some veggie or apple. Kuaci also can. It keeps them occupied.
Fumoffu just stuffs the treats in his cheek pouch and the biting begins sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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anyone cut their nails?my robo nails are long but i dare not cut them..they move around very fast on my hand cant get a hold on them..i fear i will accidently cut something extra off tongue.gif & its tiny too..hard to cut

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 9 2008, 03:11 PM)
Now Syrian season.... well, I think coz they are cheaper and bigger to hold.
Your wheel may be too small. You should get a 6.5 inch wheel for WW.
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Well, hows ur new coming batch? still RC? any nice ones? PIC PIC drool.gif drool.gif laugh.gif
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Thanks guys.

I will get one water bottle tomorrow. Public Holiday FTW !!!

Without the Mushroom, got more space as well.

Btw, I am buying Habitrail parts from Pet Safari in The Curve. Anyone know any other place sell cheaper ?

I went to Pet ??? in Taman Megah, not much choice as compare to Pet Safari.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 9 2008, 03:47 PM)
Thanks guys.

I will get one water bottle tomorrow. Public Holiday FTW !!!

Without the Mushroom, got more space as well.

Btw, I am buying Habitrail parts from Pet Safari in The Curve. Anyone know any other place sell cheaper ?

I went to Pet ??? in Taman Megah, not much choice as compare to Pet Safari.

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Pet Family in Taman Megah. You can try going to Pet Safari at the Curve or Pets Lover Center in Sunway as they have more Hagen products there.

I prefer Pet's Lover Center in Sunway for their hamster stuffs more than Pet Safari.

Hagen is the manufacturer for Habitrail products and others.
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My fathamster.

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ee so fat.. chubby chubby.. tat ww or rc?
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ww. got 2. this is the fattest. actually he look more fatter then in the pic. he loves to sleep on his back on the wheel, when he does that, can see his fatty tummy.. really adorable.
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aww so cute.. i got a ww tat looks fat fat juz like ur hammy.. but it just given birth so maybe de skin become loose.. (dunno got such thing not..)


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ar? i never close the lid de, i didnt put my tank sideways? i juz put the lid behind the tank. The tank is a very nice house for the hamsters. the bedding wont spill out de, as the tank is quite tall and big.
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ooh..... cos i c got de lid thr so i tot u put it sideways.. hehe.. yaya i agree tank is good too tat's y i plan to buy..
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its been long time( actually always read but nvr post lol), ver6 already rclxms.gif

got question

1.after a long time taking care of them, now they started to bite the bar cage. any solution?
2.im thinking to use Chipsi Classic that one got apple smell. its that ok ?

i have 2 syrians and spread them since they started to fight.

i heard need to spray something on the cage bar, but i dont think its a good idea. this is they current house. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(AlterFx @ Jan 10 2008, 03:41 AM)
its been long time( actually always read but nvr post lol), ver6 already  rclxms.gif

got question

1.after a long time taking care of them, now they started to bite the bar cage. any solution?
2.im thinking to use Chipsi Classic that one got apple smell. its that ok ?

i have 2 syrians and spread them since they started to fight.

i heard need to spray something on the cage bar, but i dont think its a good idea. this is they current house. sweat.gif

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for the bedding i think it's better to get those normal ones with no smell...

biting the cage i think because or they're bored...they to play with them more often and see if they still continue doing it
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yeah maybe ... for far i only play with them like 30 min to 1 hour everyday. now i changed the bar to cardboard for a while, scare they bite the grill often and get cancer. theres nothing i can give them to bite ?
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Some hamsters like to chew on metal. You can try giving it a stainless steel spoon.

That cage is way too small for a syrian, do upgrade to a larger cage or tank.
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one of my hamster also keep on biting the cage.. using the stainless steel spoon is a gr8 idea! cant wait to try it out..
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Some hamsters like to chew on metal. You can try giving it a stainless steel spoon.

That cage is way too small for a syrian, do upgrade to a larger cage or tank.
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Wow! V6! biggrin.gif Congrats... errr, was missing for about a week... now new version d... rclxms.gif
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my syrian girl will climb on my palm when i put my hand near her. but thats only because she want escape from the tank. she wont stay long on my palm n always will jump off doesnt matter how high my palm is away from the floor. really wonder how to make her stay near me n play if i let her out. when i put her on my bed, she will sure want run here n there trying to escape. sad.gif
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Added on January 10, 2008, 9:27 pmbtw, am planning to make tube tunnels for my syrian girl. what size is suitable for syrian?

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cute..haha english ham also got..haha
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif OMG! Now only I know Breeder Celect is not hamster bedding but cat's litter. No wonder we can't find it in the pet shops by searching from the hamster stuffs blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

Got the stocks for our 4 boys from Joan this evening by COD with her notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Really good stuffs and reasonable price, a friendly, kind and very nice seller and shop keep thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Can't wait to try out with the Breeder Celect and the rest of the stuffs we got from her rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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Added on January 10, 2008, 9:27 pmbtw, am planning to make tube tunnels for my syrian girl. what size is suitable for syrian?
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Hi everyone, I'm a new member biggrin biggrin.gif so i just want to share my happiness with all of you!! My new born baby hamster already 4week old ... so cute .... rclxms.gif


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Here is Miki latest pics! He's pretty tame now, we just made a breakthrough last nite! He stepped onto my palm volunteerily!!! Yeay!
But I have a Q to sifus:

1. Why Miki is more 'mouse' look than my other syrians? He has bigger ears too... I hope he is not cross-breed or something sweat.gif
2. Is it normal for syrian to have a longer body? I see the rest of my syrians have rounded and stokier body. Miki body is longer and slim tongue.gif
3. Miki smell the worst! shakehead.gif only MoFo doesn't smell actually hmm.gif Maybe I shud try breeder celect too... is it good for covering smell?
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Missgeek,

Currently having the same smell issue with Fumoffu. This fella pee and poo more than JackJack. Anyway tonight will be cleaning all the tanks and will be using corncob with Aspen beddings. Going to put some Timothy hay to cover the smell. The hay actually smells like tea leaves.
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# jtl:
Thanks for your great service for COD with us this evening. Good luck in your sale and will continue support you and your shop  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
You are very welcome and thank you for being such a supportive customer smile.gif

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I bought the water bottle and bathing sands from Pets Lover Centre.
And another set of OVO Den extension. Charging battery now, will post the photo tommorow.
By the way, I use one of the Den to put the bathing sand, today the sands now cover with the bedding.
Is it normal ?
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Here is Miki latest pics! He's pretty tame now, we just made a breakthrough last nite! He stepped onto my palm volunteerily!!! Yeay!
But I have a Q to sifus:

1. Why Miki is more 'mouse' look than my other syrians? He has bigger ears too... I hope he is not cross-breed or something  sweat.gif
2. Is it normal for syrian to have a longer body? I see the rest of my syrians have rounded and stokier body. Miki body is longer and slim tongue.gif
3. Miki smell the worst!  shakehead.gif only MoFo doesn't smell actually  hmm.gif Maybe I shud try breeder celect too... is it good for covering smell?
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maybe we should call him Miki mouse.. brows.gif brows.gif
my montee haven't give any bad and obvious smell yet unless you put your nose inside the tank..
how much does breeder celect cost per pack? and how many grams per pack?

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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 11 2008, 10:48 PM)
maybe we should call him Miki mouse.. brows.gif  brows.gif
my montee haven't give any bad and obvious smell yet unless you put your nose inside the tank..
how much does breeder celect cost per pack? and how many grams per pack?
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Soulx,

Breeder Celect is not cheap as those beddings for small animals because it is cat litter.

Here is the rough price I found around:
6 Litres pack - RM25-30
15 Litres pack - RM45-50
35 Litres pack - RM95-100

1 litre = 1 kilograms
1 kilograms = 1000 grams

Hope this helps as Breeder Celect is good beddings too. Will be getting the 35 litres pack from Joan after we use up all the corncob, aspen, recycle paper and timothy hay we got now.

You can try mixing corncob and aspen. Also put timothy hay as will cover the smell more tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Regarding the smell of your Montee, you should try to smell your tank in 7 days about 1-2 feet away and see if you smell anything. You should be smelling the ammonia from pee. It also depends on how much pee your Montee pee.

All I can say is that all 4 of my hamsters (syrians and robos) need tank cleaning every 5-7 days sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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hmm...does breeder celect is better then corncob?
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i hav some que..

i hav been travel to langkawi last month n i bring my hamster too..

they stay at the hotel for 2 days..

n the next day on my way back to home town i singgah ah 1 place shopping for the last time n i tinggal my hamster in car..the parking lots are so hot n i open some tingkap so that my hamster can breath..

but..

huwaa cry.gif

when i return one of them died~~

i was so sad~~ cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

whY cry.gif
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Hamsters are sensitive to heat. You should not leave them in the car if the temperature feels hot to you. Usually they will start to drool before getting a heatstroke.

BC is better than corncob and woodshavings. It's dust free and no strong odour. It controls odour very well so you don't need to change so often. Corncob will grow mold if left too long without a full tank change. Corncob is also very noisy when they dig.
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 11 2008, 05:02 PM)
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Here is Miki latest pics! He's pretty tame now, we just made a breakthrough last nite! He stepped onto my palm volunteerily!!! Yeay!
But I have a Q to sifus:

1. Why Miki is more 'mouse' look than my other syrians? He has bigger ears too... I hope he is not cross-breed or something  sweat.gif
2. Is it normal for syrian to have a longer body? I see the rest of my syrians have rounded and stokier body. Miki body is longer and slim tongue.gif
3. Miki smell the worst!  shakehead.gif only MoFo doesn't smell actually  hmm.gif Maybe I shud try breeder celect too... is it good for covering smell?
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Miki is a syrian, but not all syrians have round bear look. If you get from petshops, most of the syrians got mousy look coz of the body structure of the parents when breeding. Those with bear looks are more bulkier in size, because the line is from good breeding hamsters..... most of the petshop ones are low quality..... is like dogs lah, got pet quality and got show quality....

QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 11 2008, 08:58 PM)
I bought the water bottle and bathing sands from Pets Lover Centre.
And another set of OVO Den extension. Charging battery now, will post the photo tommorow.
By the way, I use one of the Den to put the bathing sand, today the sands now cover with the bedding.
Is it normal ?
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 11 2008, 11:58 PM)
hmm...does breeder celect is better then corncob?
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Yes, it is better. Corncob absorbs moisture but it will turn moldy, the mold can cause breathing disorders if not cleaned weekly. Breeder Celect absorbs both moisture and odour.

Another brand to use is Healthy Pet, just as good as BC.

QUOTE(EReeN @ Jan 12 2008, 12:09 AM)
i hav some que..

i hav been travel to langkawi last month n i bring my hamster too..

they stay at the hotel for 2 days..

n the next day on my way back to home town i singgah ah 1 place shopping for the last time n i tinggal my hamster in car..the parking lots are so hot n i open some tingkap so that my hamster can breath..

but..

huwaa cry.gif

when i return one of them died~~

i was so sad~~ cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

whY cry.gif
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Firstly, hamsters cannot sweat..... and they are extremely sensitive to heat. Even if you put a cat in the same car, it would die as well. Animals cannot sweat, so they cannot get rid of heat easily. So their body over heat, die.

even if you open all the tingkap and roof, it will die from the heat.

Common sense, a car is made of metal, it absorbs heat faster, with the glass, it keeps heat in, increasing the heat to a few degrees higher. A person can also die or faint from the heat if without air cond.

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 12 2008, 12:57 AM)
Firstly, hamsters cannot sweat..... and they are extremely sensitive to heat. Even if you put a cat in the same car, it would die as well. Animals cannot sweat, so they cannot get rid of heat easily. So their body over heat, die.

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i think doggies breath rapidly to excrete heat from their body...thats why after they run or some tiring activities, they'll stuff out their tongue n breath rapidly..am i right?
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Miki is a syrian, but not all syrians have round bear look. If you get from petshops, most of the syrians got mousy look coz of the body structure of the parents when breeding. Those with bear looks are more bulkier in size, because the line is from good breeding hamsters..... most of the petshop ones are low quality..... is like dogs lah, got pet quality and got show quality....
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Ahhhh... yeah now I understand why he looked so different from MoFo, Mokie and Mobee. They are all round round shape and short. tongue.gif Miki is long long slim with hmmm extra huge balls sweat.gif

I will buy breeder celect lah like this. Time to do supply stocking anyway. By the way, buy the dried alfafa also good for covering smell and also good for their digestive and teeth! My syrians love it especially mofo cos he used it for nesting too. It also smells very nice like fresh tea/ herbs. And the best thing is, it's CHEAPER than timothy hay lor. I bought it at an aquarium shop in uptown, galaxy aquarium I think. I dont know if other place sell la.. only know there cos that petshop guy adviced me to feed it to my hamsters.

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hav some que..

i hav been travel to langkawi last month n i bring my hamster too..

they stay at the hotel for 2 days..

n the next day on my way back to home town i singgah ah 1 place shopping for the last time n i tinggal my hamster in car..the parking lots are so hot n i open some tingkap so that my hamster can breath..

but..

huwaa 

when i return one of them died~~

i was so sad~~   

whY


Wah, cannot leh leave ur pets in the car! I done it too but only if it's nightime and i opened the window for sure. I try not to do it tho... if i feel it's too hot even at nite (you can feel the heat urself), I will bring along. During the day when it's hot of course they die. Even a covered carpark also so hot during the day... rolleyes.gif u can even kill a baby if u leave inside hot car... let alone small tiny hamsters. I hope you learned your lesson well lor... maybe buy that travel cage thing so that you could always bring them out, I've seen some nice ones... one I saw in pets lover center in singapore... nearly bought it cos i didnt see it in malaysia.. tongue.gif it's sanko brand.

Oh, u can also check uptown night market at kota damansara... one stall sells this tank, come with string like handbag, so u can carry it on your shoulder. inside got water bottle, wheel and food bowl too! Cheap also, last time i ask it's RM30.

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Missgeek,

I bought the Timothy hay for RM15 for 2 packs. It was buy 1 free 1. I think Pet Shack still have this promo.
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oh, thank for the info on breeder celect cat litter.
I think I will give it a try also when my corncob is finished. At the moment I am using only corncob as bedding for momo and changes it once a week. Sometimes, at the end of the week - her tank does smell too. sweat.gif laugh.gif
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If you can't find breeder celect in the small animals bedding section, try looking for it at the cat litter section. Breeder celect is actually cat litter laugh.gif
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my hamster is gigantic and i cant find a suitable running wheel for him , anyone can suggest to me where i can find the biggest running wheel?
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My Habitrail Mini with 2 x Ovo Den pack.
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My son call this girl "Ding Ding".
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And this girl "Dang Dang".
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Enjoying life now.
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This is suppose to be their bathing Den. After 1 day, cannot see the sand anymore.
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your hamster is a syrian?
if syrian, try to find 8 inch wheels..
most of the petshop sell big wheels..try to ask them if they have..
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ok.i have another question , if i want to have 2 hamster or more , how will i make them not fight?if i cant stop them from fighting , how do they make new babies?XD
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ok.i have another question , if i want to have 2 hamster or more , how will i make them not fight?if i cant stop them from fighting , how do they make new babies?XD
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i tried that before..but how do i just mix them?even if i dont want them to breed..
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i tried that before..but how do i just mix them?even if i dont want them to breed..
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If it is syrian, then please do not put them together as they will fight to the death not just badly injured. They are just animals, they just follow their instincts. Hamsters cannot be trained like dogs. Hamsters won't feel lonely or want a mate to live with. They live alone. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

If you want hamsters that can be put together in groups then you should have considered robos or ww. But the same sex unless you want 20-30 babies in a few weeks. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

This is just being cruel to the hamsters. Please read the 1st page of this thread for more information.

Also if what you have is syrian please get a good 8" wheel. You can look out for them in major pet shops or those small pet shops around.

Good big wheels would be Sanko Wild 21cm Silent Wheel or Habitrail Safari or Playground wheels. Just to let you know that the bigger the wheel the more expensive it will get. But the Habitrail wheels are the cheapest.
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the classic habitrails:)they were the first cage i used..then my hamster went missing..NOO!!lol


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My Habitrail Mini with 2 x Ovo Den pack.
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My son call this girl "Ding Ding".
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And this girl "Dang Dang".
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Enjoying life now.
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This is suppose to be their bathing Den. After 1 day, cannot see the sand anymore.
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frostfox,

These are winter white hamsters which belongs to the dwarf hamster species.

As I said before in the previous post - if you want to have hamsters staying together then please get either these dwarf hamsters: Roborovski or Winter Whites.

Please read the first page for more information click below:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/607217
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oo...ok i understand now..but how do hey breed syrians if they will fight?
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You will need to wait until the female hamster is in heat (something like period or haid). Then you would place the female or male in the same tank for an hour or so. The female would have gotten pregnant after that.

Are you really prepared to breed syrian hamsters? What is your purpose for breeding syrians in the first place? Profit from selling the babies? For fun?

You will need alot of space for the new babies. Not just 1 tank or cage but a few tanks or cages.

Also you will need to prepare food which consists of good hamster food, fresh veges, etc for the female syrian and her babies.

After 4 weeks you need to separate the males and females in a cage and tank on its own. Or else they will fight and inbreeding will happen. Then you will get deformed syrians.

Are you prepared for that?

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NO , im just asking it as a question..i got no intention of breeding a syrian , but maybe another type..if i learn more about it first wink.gif
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Sorry for being harsh but we do have some idiotic people here who doesn't think with the grey matter inbetween their ears.

Please read back the previous post which I have edited.

And please breed if you are prepared for it and not for profit or whatsoever.
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 12 2008, 07:19 PM)
Dude,

If it is syrian, then please do not put them together as they will fight to the death not just badly injured. They are just animals, they just follow their instincts. Hamsters cannot be trained like dogs. Hamsters won't feel lonely or want a mate to live with. They live alone. mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

If you want hamsters that can be put together in groups then you should have considered robos or ww. But the same sex unless you want 20-30 babies in a few weeks. blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif

This is just being cruel to the hamsters. Please read the 1st page of this thread for more information.

Also if what you have is syrian please get a good 8" wheel. You can look out for them in major pet shops or those small pet shops around.

Good big wheels would be Sanko Wild 21cm Silent Wheel or Habitrail Safari or Playground wheels. Just to let you know that the bigger the wheel the more expensive it will get. But the Habitrail wheels are the cheapest.
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Wow hamster can mass produce baby in just few weeks? I rather let them be alone than rather breed them.. Especially when do not noe how to breed them, will cause more casualty..
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huuwaa cry.gif i got da lesson now "never leave ur hamster in the car"~~

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my hamser body become "yellow" in color at her ass

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i try to cuci with da hamster shampoo but the yellow color still cannot remove
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QUOTE(EReeN @ Jan 12 2008, 08:51 PM)
huuwaa cry.gif  i got da lesson now "never leave ur hamster in the car"~~

anothe que..

my hamser body become "yellow" in color at her ass

why haa??? hmm.gif

i try to cuci with da hamster shampoo but the yellow color still cannot remove
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Maybe your hamster fur paint melted already and stick to her ass :S Just a joke.. Dunno LoL!
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Wow hamster can mass produce baby in just few weeks? I rather let them be alone than rather breed them.. Especially when do not noe how to breed them, will cause more casualty..
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hey..one time i didnt know anything about hamster and i put 2 white hamsters together for a week , one day i found the girl hamster breathing very slowly and she couldnt move , her ass was a kind of black color (abnormal color)and it was like she was gonna die..I tried taking here to the vet but was pronounced dead when i arrived there
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hey..one time i didnt know anything about hamster and i put 2 white hamsters together for a week , one day i found the girl hamster breathing very slowly and she couldnt move , her ass was a kind of black color (abnormal color)and it was like she was gonna die..I tried taking here to the vet but was pronounced dead when i arrived there
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why kind of hamster did you put them together?
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at least you know the basic necessities of your pet..
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hey..one time i didnt know anything about hamster and i put 2 white hamsters together for a week , one day i found the girl hamster breathing very slowly and she couldnt move , her ass was a kind of black color (abnormal color)and it was like she was gonna die..I tried taking here to the vet but was pronounced dead when i arrived there
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Means they fought and the female got injured. Probably because no proper introduction made and they weren't observed. The black stuff is probably the dried blood.
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after reading all the 6 pages, this hamster thread is one of the best in LYN. informative and not too many spams..

few years back, my family bought 5 syrian hamster and fit it all in a habitrail safari cage.. 2 male and 3 females.. since i'm not that grown up at that time, i dont really now that hamster will breed at such speed and everything messed up. i'm able to get few of them to grow and last for 2 years.. they live happily and passed away happily also, they have their own grave though side by side at my grandma's garden..lolx

that was a 2 years of fun and satisfaction. and what you guys said is true. I have to buy 1 more cage to separate them. thats was few years ago.

but after visiting pet family today to buy some dog stuffs, had a glance at the hamster section. those cute lil robo is cute, i'm poisoned!! arrgghh.. I want to start back this hobby.. not syrian anymore, i wan cuter ROBO.

planing to get 2 or 3 though. any advise for a person who is starting back the hobby.. i need to get new cage though, i threw away the 2 old cages. can you guys give me a rough costs, habitrail mini, water bottle, lots of bedding?? where is the cheapest place to shop for all this? i live in puchong..

and ya, habitrail comes with the wheel? any other accessory included?

thanks a lot guys!!!

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buy a package cage where they give hamster bottles,cage,sometimes food,wheel and maybe some extras..buy a ball also just for fun for your hamster..Buy the cat litter bedding and buy some normal hamster food but you must also feed him with some frwesh stuff..thats all i think..Go to Mid Valley or some local pet shops to get the hamster stuff..usually i go there and its the cheapest..
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after reading all the 6 pages, this hamster thread is one of the best in LYN. informative and not too many spams..

few years back, my family bought 5 syrian hamster and fit it all in a habitrail safari cage.. 2 male and 3 females.. since i'm not that grown up at that time, i dont really now that hamster will breed at such speed and everything messed up. i'm able to get few of them to grow and last for 2 years.. they live happily and passed away happily also, they have their own grave though side by side at my grandma's garden..lolx

that was a 2 years of fun and satisfaction. and what you guys said is true. I have to buy 1 more cage to separate them. thats was few years ago.

but after visiting pet family today to buy some dog stuffs, had a glance at the hamster section. those cute lil robo is cute, i'm poisoned!! arrgghh.. I want to start back this hobby.. not syrian anymore, i wan cuter ROBO.

planing to get 2 or 3 though. any advise for a person who is starting back the hobby.. i need to get new cage though, i threw away the 2 old cages. can you guys give me a rough costs, habitrail mini, water bottle, lots of bedding?? where is the cheapest place to shop for all this? i live in puchong..

and ya, habitrail comes with the wheel? any other accessory included?

thanks a lot guys!!!

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You should get a 2 feet tank instead of a habitrail tank. It is more roomy for 2-3 robos to run around.

I would recommend you go to Pet Shack in Sunway Mentari to get all your tank, bedding, etc. It's just behind McD. Service is excellent. You can get all the below from Pet Shack.

Here is a rough of what you should get:
2 feet tank
Pretige Hamster Food
Bedding - Breeder Celect or Aspen or Corncob. Never get pine shavings as it is bad for small animals' lungs.
Timothy Hay can use as bedding and food
Wheel - Sanko Wild Silent Wheel for dwarfs or Habitrail Safari/Playground Wheel
Hamster house wood or ceramic or plastic.
Water bottle
Hamster Toilet
Toilet/bath sand
Food bowl
exercise ball

anyway get the same sex for all 2-3 robos you are getting.

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My hamster..is it cute? lol..can anyone tell me what species this is?

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OMG... you have a hamster yet you dont know it's species..
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 12 2008, 02:20 PM)
ok.i have another question , if i want to have 2 hamster or more , how will i make them not fight?if i cant stop them from fighting , how do they make new babies?XD
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Your pic shows a syrian..... you do know syrians cannot stay in pairs rite?

If you want to breed, do research but if you plan to breed just for fun or seeing a hamster family, then that is a wrong reason. You will only be doing more harm than good. So many people are spoiling the market price, also breeding many inbred hamsters coz they get 2 hamsters to breed from the same shop, breeder or supplier/location.... then also many are breeding low quality hamsters.

QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 12 2008, 07:29 PM)
the classic habitrails:)they were the first cage i used..then my hamster went missing..NOO!!lol


Added on January 12, 2008, 7:33 pm

sorry for the double post but how did these hamsters live together?
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Only siblings can live together like that peacefully but they will fight and squabble once a while. The best is keeping them ALONE.

QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 12 2008, 07:55 PM)
NO , im just asking it as a question..i got no intention of breeding a syrian , but maybe another type..if i learn more about it first wink.gif
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Dwarf hamsters are never easy to breed. Firstly, you can't tell if the female is on heat, unlike the syrian. Then, if they hate each other, they would fight to death. Some are not compatible so they can live happily but will not breed.

If breed... you must know when is the best age, you can only breed 3 times max, if you breed more, you end the female's life by half.... there are so many facts to consider if you are not experience in keeping a hamster properly.

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Wow hamster can mass produce baby in just few weeks? I rather let them be alone than rather breed them.. Especially when do not noe how to breed them, will cause more casualty..
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Hamsters are sexually mature at 5 weeks but they can breed every 20 days, this causes their bodies to suffer and die before they reach 1 year old.

QUOTE(EReeN @ Jan 12 2008, 08:51 PM)
huuwaa cry.gif  i got da lesson now "never leave ur hamster in the car"~~

anothe que..

my hamser body become "yellow" in color at her ass

why haa??? hmm.gif

i try to cuci with da hamster shampoo but the yellow color still cannot remove
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Yellow is the scent gland and pee. If the ass, more towards pee. And now, it is a stain in the fur, you cannot remove even if you cuci with whitening shampoo. Please do not give any wet shampoo bath to a hamster. It could fall sick if you are unlucky and didn't do it properly.

QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 12 2008, 09:54 PM)
hey..one time i didnt know anything about hamster and i put 2 white hamsters together for a week , one day i found the girl hamster breathing very slowly and she couldnt move , her ass was a kind of black color (abnormal color)and it was like she was gonna die..I tried taking here to the vet but was pronounced dead when i arrived there
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Reanne said dried blood. I would say it could have been gangrene. Winter Whites never do well in pairs if they are not brothers or sisters. So never have 2 WW. Keep 1 is the best. Only Russian Campbells do well in pairs.
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this my pic of my hamster..but..the black one oredi died~ cry.gif

n wanna ask too wat type of my hamster??

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You mean you bought hamsters without knowing the species? That is very risky....

Russian Campbell. 1st page got picture guide...... next time read the 1st page.
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Those 2 are Campbells.
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You mean you bought hamsters without knowing the species? That is very risky....

Russian Campbell. 1st page got picture guide...... next time read the 1st page.
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i hav bought this hamster b4 joining this forum..

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Good big wheels would be Sanko Wild 21cm Silent Wheel or Habitrail Safari or Playground wheels. Just to let you know that the bigger the wheel the more expensive it will get. But the Habitrail wheels are the cheapest.
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Just to let you know, unfortunately, the Habitrail Safari Wheel has been discontinued.

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i hav bought this hamster b4 joining this forum..
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The thing I was pointing out was that you didn't really need to ask if you looked at it 1st.... but if you bought before joining this forum, means you didn't do any species research at all?..... I mean, there are search engines like Yahoo and Google rite? I'm not pointing fingers or anything but you don't need to know a species by joining a forum. If you really love your pet, you would have researched 1st or right after you bought or something.....
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Just to let you know, unfortunately, the Habitrail Safari Wheel has been discontinued.
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why was it discontinued?was it produced illegally or was it researched to be bad?or they just stopped?
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There's still have one of the Habitrail Safari Wheel in one the pet stall in Giant Cheras. It's cost aroung RM16-Rm18 if I'm not mistaken. No more stock after all the left over sold, according to the shop keeper as well.

#Enferno:
Get all same sex for your robos. Buy a 2 feet tank is better as those pet shop people will recommend u to buy Habitrail Mini, playground or Safari, but my experience will advise you for a 2 feet tank. Go to Pet Shack for the tank as they'll drill a hole for the water bottle. Get your hamster stuff from there, I think they should have enough choices for you. Or else go to Pet Lover Center in Sunway Pyramid but the price will be bit more expensive. Do not get the package things from a pet stall cos they'll only give you cheap or low quality stuffs although you can get it much more cheaper and complete but not good for hamster. Will suggest you to get those as listed below as I'm currently have 2 robos too thumbup.gif

- 2 feet tank
- Prestige Hamster food
- Habitrail water bottle
- Food bowl x2 (1 for mixed food & 1 for fresh veges) - (suggest to u for 2 as I'll prefer to pt 2 kind of food separately for hygienic purposes)
- Bedding - Breeder Celect / Corncobs / Healthy Pets recycle paper bedding / Timothy hay (this can use as bedding, food and cover smells) <remember do not get pine wood shavings>
- Wheel (Habitrail Safari Wheel / Silent wheel
- A hamster toilet
- Toilet or litter sand
- Bathing sand
- Some tubes and connectors (if you wanna give them some fun with tubes) - go for the Habitrail Mini tubes

You can look at my attached pic as get a rough idea how its look like:
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you can also add some other accessories as u get a 2 feet tank as its spacious enough to do so. Good luck for you biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 12 2008, 10:53 PM)
buy a package cage where they give hamster bottles,cage,sometimes food,wheel and maybe some extras..buy a ball also just for fun for your hamster..Buy the cat litter bedding and buy some normal hamster food but you must also feed him with some frwesh stuff..thats all i think..Go to Mid Valley or some local pet shops to get the hamster stuff..usually i go there and its the cheapest..
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I strongly discourage to support big pet shop like the one in MV cos its very bad conditions for all the hamsters and the pets as well. Worse I've seen cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif After all the pet shops hopping, I'll prefer to go to those pet shops with not so bad conditions or small pet shop like PS as they really take care of their pets. Price??? few ringgit do not make any different for me as if you buy more in a small pet shop, you'll always get some discount with the good service, why not? And we should support those good pet shops so that they can do better. Big pet shop that u can go to is Pet Lover Center (SP), Pet Safari (Ikano), this 2 I'll suggest u if u wanna get hamster stuffs. Above is just what I personal opinion - support good pet shop!

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i just discovered a new pet shop somewhere in taman megah near the badminton hall..Nice cages and hamsters you all have smile.gif
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i just discovered a new pet shop somewhere in taman megah near the badminton hall..Nice cages and hamsters you all have smile.gif
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its pet safari
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i just bought a arowana a week ago from there..excelent service..All their offers just ended a week ago..sadly
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No it's not Pet Safari in Taman Megah. Pet Safari is in Ikano.

That is Pets Family in Taman Megah. The ground floor is more for aquatic pets whereas the 1st floor is for cat, dogs, birds and small animals. But sadly their small animals accessories are quite limited if compared to Pets Lover Center in SP. But you can get all the Habitrail stuffs there as they have a lot there.

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Yep..Their hamster stuff is quite limited compared to some pet shops

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just back from pet shack. bought some items n saw the hamster there ... omg .... never have i seen such nice n huge syrian in any petshop before. feel so want to get one home but i ady got my hands full so really cant add anymore tanks n pets ... sad ... sad.gif
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Some of my hammy girl pic ...

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Grrr ... I am a bear girl ... I think .... sweat.gif

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thannks for all the recommendation...

abt the 2ft tank that been recommend, can it be modify to add in few habitrail add-ons like the ovvo,tunnels??

how much is the diff in price btw 2ft aqua tank with habitrail mini??

just asking for the price 1st as i might get a 2 mini and combine it..muahaha..

where do u guys put ur hammy, in ur bedroom or living or outside(i wun do that though)?
if put in bedroom, will it stink if left for a week??

btw, toilet? still curious that how are they goin to use it, they know it is a toilet or i need to train(omg)!!!..definitely will buy some sandbath..

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holyghost: wow..can ur syrian finish that amount of food there..its alot
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Hey Frostfox! Is that Sinclair?

You better take good care of her ya, she's a rare hamster. She's a black eyed ivory syrian and I gave her to you so she can be cared for (Actually I gave her to your mom but she wanted to give to u). Post more pictures of her and Loretta if you can.

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wow.. new thread already.. 6 version..
congrate to all hamster lovers..
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 13 2008, 10:21 PM)
Hey Frostfox! Is that Sinclair?

You better take good care of her ya, she's a rare hamster. She's a black eyed ivory syrian and I gave her to you so she can be cared for (Actually I gave her to your mom but she wanted to give to u). Post more pictures of her and Loretta if you can.

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shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif What??? Blacked eye ivory syrian???? Thats very rare!!!! shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif How lucky for the owner... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif Take good care of the syrian.... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 13 2008, 11:08 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif What??? Blacked eye ivory syrian???? Thats very rare!!!!  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif How lucky for the owner... rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif Take good care of the syrian.... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Blacked eye ivory syrian is that rare? shocking.gif
cant find in pet shops?

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Yes! I never seen that in any pet shop so far. Commonly sell in pet shop is cinnamon banded, golden banded. Among the 30-40 baby syrians maybe you can find few cream banded or sable banded. Hardly see the rest. I'm also very lucky to have a black banded from a pet shop, and it cost me a lot cry.gif
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how much u get it? which petshop u get from? in KL?
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how much u get it? which petshop u get from? in KL?
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I get my black banded syrian for not a cheap price, but more than normal market price for syrian as they know black banded is rare and difficult to get, so they raise the price cry.gif cry.gif I bought him from one of the small pet stall in Giant Cheras. That's the only 1 black banded there. Left golden banded and a sable there but very untamed.
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 14 2008, 12:17 AM)
I get my black banded syrian for not a cheap price, but more than normal market price for syrian as they know black banded is rare and difficult to get, so they raise the price  cry.gif  cry.gif I bought him from one of the small pet stall in Giant Cheras. That's the only 1 black banded there. Left golden banded and a sable there but very untamed.
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untamed... em.. hmm.gif
how about other hamsters in that pet shop? all not tamed?
Is Pet Shack's hamsters really tame? Coz my sister's house just nearby there and wanna get 1 from there...
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 13 2008, 11:08 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif What??? Blacked eye ivory syrian???? Thats very rare!!!!  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif How lucky for the owner... rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif Take good care of the syrian.... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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She's from my silver grey line when I was breeding under BHA standards, now still have one very gorgeous silver grey girl, one black eyed white and one solid black male. Crazymouse has a few from my line, a black eyed white, het and homozygous silver grey. All imported line.

QUOTE(LeonTan @ Jan 13 2008, 11:30 PM)
Blacked eye ivory syrian is that rare? shocking.gif
cant find in pet shops?
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Nope, cannot. It's a mixture of 2 genes and the Sg gene is highly unlikely to be present in Malaysian stock.

QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 13 2008, 11:40 PM)
Yes! I never seen that in any pet shop so far. Commonly sell in pet shop is cinnamon banded, golden banded. Among the 30-40 baby syrians maybe you can find few cream banded or sable banded. Hardly see the rest. I'm also very lucky to have a black banded from a pet shop, and it cost me a lot  cry.gif
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Yeah, you are. My solid black syrian cost me RM70, but he's very handsome and has good size, also imported line. Sad I didn't start a black line.

QUOTE(LeonTan @ Jan 14 2008, 01:52 AM)
untamed... em.. hmm.gif
how about other hamsters in that pet shop? all not tamed?
Is Pet Shack's hamsters really tame? Coz my sister's house just nearby there and wanna get 1 from there...
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The ones in pet shack are quite tame. Good to get from there, they're round and fat, and some of the syrians there have bicoloured eyes too.
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I really pity the syrian in FoxFrost's care... Don't even know what type of hamster(s) he is having some more sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Should learn from Soulx, do more research before getting a hamster. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

From his blog he is high school prefect trying to be tall, get to know more girls to impress more girls, make his hamster more energetic, etc??? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Prefect should be more responsible. shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 13 2008, 10:09 PM)
holyghost: wow..can ur syrian finish that amount of food there..its alot
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yup ... usually she could finish most of it ... greedy girl
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 13 2008, 12:01 AM)
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My hamster..is it cute? lol..can anyone tell me what species this is?
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That's a very lovely syrian. wub.gif You should take very good care of it. sad.gif

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haha...that's looks like my momo too! wub.gif Nice pictures.
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QUOTE(holyghost @ Jan 14 2008, 09:39 AM)
yup ... usually she could finish most of it ... greedy girl
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Imported hamster lines are different..... my silver grey and het silver grey are just lovely! My black eyed white is.... a fatty and lazy girl hahaha.


Added on January 14, 2008, 12:25 pmOh yah, the hamster in my avatar display pic is my het silver grey. Can't find at petshops....

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Hun,

Plan to breed any them to continue their line? Hehehehe...
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Breeding them... not really coz mine are all related.....

I'm actually planning to breed Syrians but right after my female solid umbros and male solid black eyed cream mature.... but this I must refer to my sifu Reanne heheheh.... I'm not good with Syrian colour genetics yet. Still learning.

I prefer solid colours than banded ones heheheh.... i only have 1 golden banded from Pet Shack.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 14 2008, 01:00 PM)
Breeding them... not really coz mine are all related.....

I'm actually planning to breed Syrians but right after my female solid umbros and male solid black eyed cream mature.... but this I must refer to my sifu Reanne heheheh.... I'm not good with Syrian colour genetics yet. Still learning.

I prefer solid colours than banded ones heheheh.... i only have 1 golden banded from Pet Shack.
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u have a syrian named caeser right?its a long hair one if im not mistaken.....
what color is it?


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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 13 2008, 10:21 PM)
Hey Frostfox! Is that Sinclair?

You better take good care of her ya, she's a rare hamster. She's a black eyed ivory syrian and I gave her to you so she can be cared for (Actually I gave her to your mom but she wanted to give to u). Post more pictures of her and Loretta if you can.
blacked eye ivory syrian??? wow.....hope u can 'give' to me too if there will be another,lol

@Frostfox - if u feel like wanna let Sinclair go..ask me,lol




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bought timothy hair for my hamsters, sanko too expensive so I bought kool bunny brand. I chose the fresh greens one because it's better right? But I realised they dont like to eat them as much as they like the dried alfafa sad.gif but timothy hay can be given to hamsters right?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 14 2008, 01:24 PM)
Oh yah, the hamster in my avatar display pic is my het silver grey. Can't find at petshops....
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wow.. solid syrian.. i was looking for that kind of syrian..
maybe Reanne and Hun can start breed solid color syrian.. laugh.gif
if i have the knowledge and resources, i would like to breed the rare genetics syrian so that they dont extinct.. but that just my angan2.. biggrin.gif
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In the future I will restart my lines, but dunno how far in the future lor, maybe more than 5 years down the road, so if wan can get when I restart. biggrin.gif

Yeah, timothy is good for hamster's teeth and can be used as nesting material.

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Wah my hamster cage triple story and a separate story connected to the ground so hard to clean. To clean must take one hours+ which includes dismantling and reassembly. I got 5 cute little hamster thats why need that much space.
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QUOTE(Voxe @ Jan 15 2008, 12:12 AM)
Wah my hamster cage triple story and a separate story connected to the ground so hard to clean. To clean must take one hours+ which includes dismantling and reassembly. I got 5 cute little hamster thats why need that much space.
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Buy a ZooZone1 and replace the 3+1 story bungalow. Easy to clean and lots of place for them also thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Voxe, what species of hamster you got there?
izzit WW? ehehe.. care to share with us their pics and their big "bungalow"? laugh.gif


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Pictures of my robo. I seperated the dad coz he bite all of the small hamsters when I put them together.
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bad male u have..for me..my male get thrash 9 9 by my female..haha..he have to live alone..
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I wish I can give that male hamster away. I tried to tame him but everytime I tried to put my finger near him, he bit me. Also causes my gf finger to bleed abit =(
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 14 2008, 01:00 PM)
Breeding them... not really coz mine are all related.....

I'm actually planning to breed Syrians but right after my female solid umbros and male solid black eyed cream mature.... but this I must refer to my sifu Reanne heheheh.... I'm not good with Syrian colour genetics yet. Still learning.

I prefer solid colours than banded ones heheheh.... i only have 1 golden banded from Pet Shack.
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Yeah, i prefer solid colours too but really hard to find in petshop. Like my Baby, found in Malacca so i grab it, that's why i have 3 syrians now... hahaha... blush.gif
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Yippie! Another breakthrough with my syrian babies! FINALLY, Mokie and Miki is fully tamed. They can be picked up like MoFo and not running from my hands anymore. nod.gif So happy, my patience paid off and I was never once bitten!! Hehehe... as a noobie I would say RESPECT is the keyword. Don't push your luck and if they don't like it, they don't like... just try again another day!

The only frustrating thing for me now is Mobee. He takes treats from my hand, lemme stroke/pet him when he eats BUT I still need the toilet roll to transfer him to my palm. Once he came out to my palm, he will fly off!! I always do this over his tank so he landed safely back in... I can't pick him up without him looking back and showed his teeth. He never bit me yet, I backed off before he had the chance blush.gif He also treat my hand like a ghost, runs for his life everytime I came near (too near he will look back and bare his teeth sweat.gif ).

Maybe I should just be patient for a little longer. sad.gif He is the smallest and I do think he is a runt in the litter. So small... maybe that's why he is forever scared and skittish.

Anyone has non successful experience in taming their hamster? I really want Mobee to turned out like Mokie and Miki... they are so much fun to play with now smile.gif
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Here is JackJack eating a cashew nut in sangels' hand... So cute... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Also is Fumoffu sleeping in his nest of timothy hay, Healthy Pet and corncob bedding. Can you see his big testicles? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 15 2008, 07:29 AM)
Yippie! Another breakthrough with my syrian babies! FINALLY, Mokie and Miki is fully tamed. They can be picked up like MoFo and not running from my hands anymore. nod.gif So happy, my patience paid off and I was never once bitten!! Hehehe... as a noobie I would say RESPECT is the keyword. Don't push your luck and if they don't like it, they don't like... just try again another day!

The only frustrating thing for me now is Mobee. He takes treats from my hand, lemme stroke/pet him when he eats BUT I still need the toilet roll to transfer him to my palm. Once he came out to my palm, he will fly off!! I always do this over his tank so he landed safely back in... I can't pick him up without him looking back and showed his teeth. He never bit me yet, I backed off before he had the chance blush.gif He also treat my hand like a ghost, runs for his life everytime I came near (too near he will look back and bare his teeth sweat.gif ).

Maybe I should just be patient for a little longer. sad.gif He is the smallest and I do think he is a runt in the litter. So small... maybe that's why he is forever scared and skittish.

Anyone has non successful experience in taming their hamster? I really want Mobee to turned out like Mokie and Miki... they are so much fun to play with now smile.gif
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waa fumoffu testicles is humongous .. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

for me to tame my syrian, i always have one regular session with my hamster everyday..
when Montee woke up at night, i always put him on my bed. let him play around for awhile,
let him familiarized with me ... for 10-15 minutes is enough.
so funny looking at him moving around with his big ass.. laugh.gif
once done, i always give him some treats..
now Montee dont bite me anymore...he will stay put in my palm, not trying to run away like before...

but to my concern.. he is quite smelly nowadays.. i wonder why hmm.gif
i changed his bedding once in 4 days.. but when i smell his body, there's some unpleasant odour..
not that strong unpleasant odour.. only can smell if i put my nose near his body.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 15 2008, 11:52 AM)
waa fumoffu testicles is humongous  .. shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

for me to tame my syrian, i always have one regular session with my hamster everyday..
when Montee woke up at night, i always put him on my bed. let him play around for awhile,
let him familiarized with me  ... for 10-15 minutes is enough.
so funny looking at him moving around with his big ass.. laugh.gif
once done, i always give him some treats..
now Montee dont bite me anymore...he will stay put in my palm, not trying to run away like before...

but to my concern.. he is quite smelly nowadays.. i wonder why  hmm.gif
i changed his bedding once in 4 days.. but when i smell his body, there's some unpleasant odour..
not that strong unpleasant odour.. only can smell if i put my nose near his body.. tongue.gif
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You should try giving a sand bathe. It helps with all my hammies. I give them a sand bathe once a week. JackJack doesn't like it though laugh.gif
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does syrian like sand bath..?
i thought they dont like sand bath that much.. i read somewhere in this forum i think unsure.gif
but i can try...

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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 15 2008, 11:52 AM)
waa fumoffu testicles is humongous  .. shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

for me to tame my syrian, i always have one regular session with my hamster everyday..
when Montee woke up at night, i always put him on my bed. let him play around for awhile,
let him familiarized with me  ... for 10-15 minutes is enough.
so funny looking at him moving around with his big ass.. laugh.gif
once done, i always give him some treats..
now Montee dont bite me anymore...he will stay put in my palm, not trying to run away like before...

but to my concern.. he is quite smelly nowadays.. i wonder why  hmm.gif
i changed his bedding once in 4 days.. but when i smell his body, there's some unpleasant odour..
not that strong unpleasant odour.. only can smell if i put my nose near his body.. tongue.gif
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Hmm, 3 of my syrians are all babies and wild when I got them... I spend 1 hr (divided into few sessions) with each of them per day without failed (except that 2 nights I was gone to Singapore). That is why I am nocturnal too tongue.gif I cant do like you and put on my bed yet... first need to train them that when u pick them up, they are not about to be eaten, hahaha. Only mobee is now half tame... I so wish he'll get over the fact he will not be in my mouth when I pick him up.. sigh.

But Mokie and Miki are so fun to play with now! All my patience paid off sweat.gif

Crazymouse said syrian don't do sand bath... but yeah u can try of course. Only Mofo doesnt smell! The 3 babies... smelly!!! I don't know why too... but I have a feeling it could be the 1.5feet tank I use. Only Mofo in 2feet tank... i think the bigger the space, the less the odour...? I am not upgrading their tank until they are fully grown so for now... I just need to bear with their smell and wash their house and wheels often... they peed inside it ALL THE TIMES. Sigh.
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u guy believe or not, my hamster smells like "pandan" tongue.gif
The 1st day l got him l thought the owner was accidently "spray" pandan on him, but later l found that the pandan smell is come from this little hamster, so suprise!
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does syrian like sand bath..?
i thought they dont like sand bath that much.. i read somewhere in this forum i think  unsure.gif
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syrians do not need sand bath for bathing..
only dwarf hamsters do..

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 15 2008, 01:16 PM)
Hmm, 3 of my syrians are all babies and wild when I got them... I spend 1 hr (divided into few sessions) with each of them per day without failed (except that 2 nights I was gone to Singapore). That is why I am nocturnal too tongue.gif I cant do like you and put on my bed yet... first need to train them that when u pick them up, they are not about to be eaten, hahaha. Only mobee is now half tame... I so wish he'll get over the fact he will not be in my mouth when I pick him up.. sigh.

But Mokie and Miki are so fun to play with now! All my patience paid off  sweat.gif

Crazymouse said syrian don't do sand bath... but yeah u can try of course. Only Mofo doesnt smell! The 3 babies... smelly!!! I don't know why too... but I have a feeling it could be the 1.5feet tank I use. Only Mofo in 2feet tank... i think the bigger the space, the less the odour...? I am not upgrading their tank until they are fully grown so for now... I just need to bear with their smell and wash their house and wheels often... they peed inside it ALL THE TIMES. Sigh.
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Congratulations on taming them! smile.gif
I didn't know that syrian doesn't need sand bath. tongue.gif I put Momo in a smaller tank with the sand bath everytime while i clean her 2ft tank. She doesn't smell but I just thought she might enjoy digging the sand. Momo does peed in her wheels too! rclxub.gif She peed in her toilet but sometimes also at a corner of the tank.
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QUOTE(sky388 @ Jan 15 2008, 01:24 PM)
u guy believe or not, my hamster smells like "pandan" tongue.gif
The 1st day l got him l thought the owner was accidently "spray" pandan on him, but later l found that the pandan smell is come from this little hamster, so suprise!
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By the way, this happened many years ago.
I was having 2 white mouse and those days don't have hamster food in the market. Those pet shop only sell some kind of mouse food and their shit and pee is really smelly.
I probably washed the cage every 2 days and my mom keep asking me to get rid of it since it was very smelly.
My current hamster cage after 7 days, still 10 times smell better.

Since I stayed in kampung area with Padi field behind my house, I got chance to get free padi when season came.
So I feed them with the padi and their shit became pandan smell so I got to keep my pet. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

It works on the white mouse but I wonder whether it will be the same with Hamster.
(Though the padi field no longer there but I had asked my pakcik in the kampung to keep some when they harvest).

p/s: I even get free wood shavings from carpenter shop behind my house. Sigh. Good old days.
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Well the 2 syrians I just put them in a small tank with bathing sand when we are cleaning their homes. Not together. Let them run around the tank and play with them about 10-15 mins.

Anyway JackJack doesn't smell much only Fumoffu. Not sure why but I think it is the 2 feet tank. Once open can smell all the dried pee smell. That is why we are mixing a few beddings together to hide the smell.

JackJack is in ZooZone2 tank. Actually for GP, rabbits, and chins but using for syrian tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

You can see the 3 tanks for the 4 hamsters we have.
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 15 2008, 03:35 PM)
Well the 2 syrians I just put them in a small tank with bathing sand when we are cleaning their homes. Not together. Let them run around the tank and play with them about 10-15 mins.

Anyway JackJack doesn't smell much only Fumoffu. Not sure why but I think it is the 2 feet tank. Once open can smell all the dried pee smell. That is why we are mixing a few beddings together to hide the smell.

JackJack is in ZooZone2 tank. Actually for GP, rabbits, and chins but using for syrian tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

You can see the 3 tanks for the 4 hamsters we have.
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Is the jackjack's sanko wheel bigger than the safari one? I am looking a bigger wheel for my momo.
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Yes. 21cm. I think there not much Sanko 21cm Wheels around. Been searching high and low to replace Fumoffu's Safari wheel.

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You should try giving a sand bathe. It helps with all my hammies. I give them a sand bathe once a week. JackJack doesn't like it though laugh.gif
How to give them once a week? Leave the sand for 2 hours then remove from the cage?

Do I change the sand every time I clean the cage ? (I clean cage once a week)

See the photo below. I found that they actually move some kuaci + wood shaving there and they shit there as well.

This is suppose to be their bathing Den. After 1 day, cannot see the sand anymore.
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how much is the price for sanko wheel?
isnt the safari wheel already good enough for syrian?
or there are something wrong with safari wheel?
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Actually I have a small tanks to keep them when I clean their homes. I will put bathing sand inside for them to run/dig around.

The sand can be reuse a few times before throwing.

They will poo everywhere even in the food bowl. My robos even sleep and eat in the toilet tongue.gif


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how much is the price for sanko wheel?
isnt the safari wheel already good enough for syrian?
or there are something wrong with safari wheel?
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Well if you did your research properly you would know that there is nothing wrong with the Safari Wheel but it is a little small for syrians as syrians requires wheels that are 8inches or more in diameter. The Safari wheel is 7inches I think (can't remember).

Sanko Wild 21cm (8.26 inches) Silent Wheel cost about RM60-70+. If JackJack runs on it, you can see that his back is straight instead of bending a little when running in Safari Wheel which is causing strain on his back. It's good for their backs when they are running in a bigger wheel.

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QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 15 2008, 03:45 PM)
How to give them once a week? Leave the sand for 2 hours then remove from the cage?

Do I change the sand every time I clean the cage ? (I clean cage once a week)

See the photo below. I found that they actually move some kuaci + wood shaving there and they shit there as well.

This is suppose to be their bathing Den. After 1 day, cannot see the sand anymore.
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erm, i fill the bottom of a small tank with bathing sand and let her play with it while i clean her normal tank. It is just for a while. Once her tank is clean and tidy I will remove her from the smaller tank and put her inside her regular one again. I also put some sand in a small container inside her tank for toilet purposes. She usually peed on it and sometimes she digs the sand out. This is regularly replaced.

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how much is the price for sanko wheel?
isnt the safari wheel already good enough for syrian?
or there are something wrong with safari wheel?
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Yes, safari wheel is good enough.
For my case, my momo is very attached to her wheel and she runs like crazy in it. Sometimes she run too fast and will knock her head there.
She usually sleeps at her wheel as well. Hence, I might look for a bigger one for her so she will run more comfortable in it. smile.gif
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I am thinking to buy those powder filter from pasar malam. Those half sphere filter.
Then I can filter the sand and get rid of the poo and wood shaving. yay!
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how much is the price for sanko wheel?
isnt the safari wheel already good enough for syrian?
or there are something wrong with safari wheel?
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Habitrail Safari wheel and playground wheel can be used for syrians. They are 7.5 inch.
MoFo can run inside, the backs did not arch but just muat muat only. That extra 0.5 inch does make a difference...
Mofo can't fit well in the normal wheel (like the one in my siggy picture with Miki). Now that wheel is a spare for the 3 babies.
Except for MoFo, the rest are using habitrail playground wheel. smile.gif One day I will need to change for all of them, maybe 3-4 months down the road but for now, it works perfectly for them.

I bought the sanko 21cm wheel in singapore, here don't have stock yet. They only have the 17cm and the humongous 30cm. So hard to find good wheels here lah... so the most decent you can use is the habitrail wheels.


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How to give them once a week? Leave the sand for 2 hours then remove from the cage?

Do I change the sand every time I clean the cage ? (I clean cage once a week)

See the photo below. I found that they actually move some kuaci + wood shaving there and they shit there as well.

This is suppose to be their bathing Den. After 1 day, cannot see the sand anymore.
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I think it's natural instinct that small confined space is a place to sleep and store food. I think u better change venue to the proper bathing place (or ceramic bowl) and put in their main area. tongue.gif Anyway, it's a den biggrin.gif sure they use it as a den lorrrrr... I cant remember if yours is syrian or dwarfs... if syrian, u dont need a bathing sand, just do like blurjoey lor... put them in a small tank filled with bathing sand while u do the cage cleaning smile.gif

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habitrail going to stop the safari production right?
i'm going to find a new wheel for montee too..
i hope there's sanko wheel around here.. biggrin.gif
KP is doing bulk for wodent wheel which cost around rm70-80 i think..


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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 15 2008, 04:29 PM)
habitrail going to stop the safari production right?
i'm going to find a new wheel for montee too..
i hope there's sanko wheel around here.. biggrin.gif
KP is doing bulk for wodent wheel which cost around rm70-80 i think..
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KrazyPeaches? (hope I spell her name correct) That is Wodent Wheel Senior which is an 11inch wheel. I don't think it can fit a 2 feet tank or Jackjack's ZooZone2 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif But if someone is doing a bulk for the Wodent Wheel Junior 8" wheel then it will be just nice. And I will be the first to buy 2 of them tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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habitrail going to stop the safari production right?
i'm going to find a new wheel for montee too..
i hope there's sanko wheel around here.. biggrin.gif
KP is doing bulk for wodent wheel which cost around rm70-80 i think..
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Yes, but she is doing it for wodent wheel sr, which might be a little too big to fit inside the 2 ft tank, as per what blurjoey mentioned. smile.gif
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habitrail going to stop the safari production right?
i'm going to find a new wheel for montee too..
i hope there's sanko wheel around here.. biggrin.gif
KP is doing bulk for wodent wheel which cost around rm70-80 i think..
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Wodent is good and make sure you get Wodent Wheel Junior, measuring at 7 3/4 inch. smile.gif They have 3, Junior, Senior and Wobust.
Senior measurement is 10 7/8 inch and Wobust is 12 inch. You can try the senior wheel but maybe it's a tad too big.

Here the website you can see the price: http://www.sugar-gliders.com/wodent-wheel-jr.htm
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1ft = 12inch
Wodent Wheel Sr will consume half the space of 2f tank..laugh.gif sweat.gif
if anyone has bigger tank, maybe its ok..
blurjoey, you start la the bulk for wodent wheel jr.. thumbup.gif
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According to http://www.transoniq.com/ who manufactures Wodent Wheels

Wodent Wheel Jr. 8" diameter, 2.6" wide, 2.1" entry holes. Overall height 9.1". Best for hamsters, small sugar gliders and larger mice.

Wodent Wheel Sr. 11" diameter, 3.5" wide, 2.6" "mouse-hole shaped" entry holes. Overall height 12.3". Best for lady rats, squirrels, sugar gliders, large hamsters and small hedgies.

Wobust Wodent Wheel. 12" diameter, 5.3" wide, 3.6" "mouse-hole shaped" entry holes. Overall height 13". Best for larger male rats, prairie dogs and hedgehogs. New! - The Wobust has recently been updated to match the design and colors and easy-to-clean tracks of the Jrs and Srs. (Older version shown in photo. The new version can be seen here: New Wobust.)


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1ft = 12inch
Wodent Wheel Sr will consume half the space of 2f tank..laugh.gif sweat.gif
if anyone has bigger tank, maybe its ok..
blurjoey, you start la the bulk for wodent wheel jr..  thumbup.gif
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You didn't count the height of the Wodent Wheel Sr. which is about 12.3 inches. Then it will be customize hamster habitat not tank or cage anymore. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

You think so easy to just do a bulk ar? Need to know the vendors/distributors well. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

Why don't don't you do? If you do then I confirm order 2 wheels from you and pay you in full first when ordering. How about that? icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif

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There is a solid black syrian in the pet shop in Brickfields, it looked ok to me, but I only glanced at it.
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to all hamsters lover, i'm in this club d... today went to pet shack to check out their hams. the lady said they dun have much stock left. I'm a lucky man, i managed to get 2 Robos.

had some wild spending though:

Habitrail Safari( which i think the robo will not slip out of the cage)
Habitrail bottle(with a fancy clip)
Prestige Hamster food
bedding Delikate
Breeder Celect -cat litter
Delikate sand bath
Bengy hamster litter

and of course- 2 cute Roborovskis

i will try to post some photo later..they are still trying to learn the new environment.
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Bleh.... I replied a very very long post.... but it vanished.... stupid PC of mine LOL....

Anyway, I'll reply briefly now without quoting anyone.

I may breed Syrians but not soon. I do have to brush up on Syrian colour genetics in order to breed good quality solid coloured Syrians....

I got 1 het silver grey, 1 Silver grey, 1 Black Eyed Cream, 1 Golden Banded, 1 Umbrous, 1 Black Eyed Cream, 1 Albino/Pink Eyed White...... now those are my Syrians.... Age between 1 year plus to 4 months old. I will add more Syrians when I manage to find good ones.

Robos I got 3 females...... WW, I got 9.... Campbells? I got 7 and gonna increase soon.

Syrians do not sand bath. They have long fur and rarely or never have greasy fur like Robos and Dwarf hamsters.... they groom themselves like cats, so if you give them a sand bath, the will just dig or pee in it rather than roll around.

Most of the Habitrail extensions, especially those that are suppose to be hamster toilets actually do not become hamster toilets but more like a storage room or sleeping room... For toilets, is best to give them a bowl that is deep and heavy enough for them to sand bath in and use as a toilet.

To Enferno,

Congrats on becoming a new hamster owner.
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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 16 2008, 12:34 AM)
to all hamsters lover, i'm in this club d... today went to pet shack to check out their hams. the lady said they dun have much stock left. I'm a lucky man, i managed to get 2 Robos.

had some wild spending though:

Habitrail Safari( which i think the robo will not slip out of the cage)
Habitrail bottle(with a fancy clip)
Prestige Hamster food
bedding Delikate
Breeder Celect -cat litter
Delikate sand bath
Bengy hamster litter

and of course- 2 cute Roborovskis

i will try to post some photo later..they are still trying to learn the new environment.
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Welcome enferno! Share the pics soon!

BTW, bought meself 2 GP blush.gif Here's a pic and stories in GP thread biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 16 2008, 04:28 AM)
Welcome enferno! Share the pics soon!

BTW, bought meself 2 GP  blush.gif Here's a pic and stories in GP thread biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 16 2008, 04:28 AM)
Welcome enferno! Share the pics soon!

BTW, bought meself 2 GP  blush.gif Here's a pic and stories in GP thread biggrin.gif

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You bought ZooZone2!!! Your house getting more animals d. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

How you do that 2nd platform for the 1.5 feet tank? Habitrail I think....

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Hie, just asking on behalf of a friend. Is it appropriate to feed hamster with only oats and carrots? Because her hamster dont like to eat those big pallets.
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Hie, just asking on behalf of a friend. Is it appropriate to feed hamster with only oats and carrots? Because her hamster dont like to eat those big pallets.
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No... too much oats causes binding that can lead to constipation. Carrots are high in sugars and Vitamin A, meaning the hamster can suffer diabetes and also Vit A intoxication, which is lethal..... please just use the proper hamster food. What do you mean big pellets? Is it those green coloured ones?
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hye.. loves with blurjoey tank.where can i fing tank like her..?
like this one.. user posted image
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It's Hagen ZooZone2. I bought mine from Pets More in Queen's Park, Cheras. It cost about RM140+ but I did get a 10% discount and also the member card.

You can also find it in Pet Safari & Pets Family. Other small pet shop would have it also.
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Hi,

I jus have my robo for few weeks. i bought some hamster food from the pet shop which is those mixture of some green thing, some corn.. i also put some kuaci and oat for them. i found tat they jus eat those kuaci and oat but don like the hamster food.

now the male robo is getting fatter and fatter... and i saw both of them fighting recently. any problem?

i saw u all talking about sand bath, how to do tat? i don have any idea..

btw, here's my robo sleeping pic.. hehe

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jamince,

Welcome. Anyway too much kuaci is bad for their health. You should try Prestige Hamster for their food. But even my robos will pick all the kuaci first then will eat the rest if there is no more kuaci.

If they fight until one of them is bleeding then you should separate them but if not then they are just play fighting. They usually fight to see who is more dominant.

Sand bath you would need a deep bowl & sand bath. Robos will go in there to roll around. I usually put the robos in a small tank with sand bath when I'm cleaning their cage/tank.
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QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 15 2008, 03:33 PM)
By the way, this happened many years ago.
I was having 2 white mouse and those days don't have hamster food in the market. Those pet shop only sell some kind of mouse food and their shit and pee is really smelly.
I probably washed the cage every 2 days and my mom keep asking me to get rid of it since it was very smelly.
My current hamster cage after 7 days, still 10 times smell better.

Since I stayed in kampung area with Padi field behind my house, I got chance to get free padi when season came.
So I feed them with the padi and their shit became pandan smell so I got to keep my pet.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

It works on the white mouse but I wonder whether it will be the same with Hamster.
(Though the padi field no longer there but I had asked my pakcik in the kampung to keep some when they harvest).

p/s: I even get free wood shavings from carpenter shop behind my house. Sigh. Good old days.
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Is it? tongue.gif I thought only mine WW gor pandan smell tongue.gif
But l didnt feed him padi lah...
wow...u even can get free wood shavings...how nice nod.gif

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weird..why will they pick those kuaci 1st..
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wow...feeding with padi will result in pandan smell??
it is sumkind of a symptom of disease of its ok??
if it is ok then i wanna to try la...hehe sweat.gif

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 16 2008, 09:42 AM)
No... too much oats causes binding that can lead to constipation. Carrots are high in sugars and Vitamin A, meaning the hamster can suffer diabetes and also Vit A intoxication, which is lethal..... please just use the proper hamster food. What do you mean big pellets? Is it those green coloured ones?
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QUOTE(mlinda @ Jan 16 2008, 10:12 AM)
hye.. loves with blurjoey tank.where can i fing tank like her..?
like this one.. user posted image
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nice tank..suitable for gp & hamster thumbup.gif but kinda exp.. cry.gif anyone bulking this tongue.gif

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 16 2008, 08:09 PM)
nice tank..suitable for gp & hamster  thumbup.gif but kinda exp.. cry.gif anyone bulking this  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 16 2008, 12:34 AM)
to all hamsters lover, i'm in this club d... today went to pet shack to check out their hams. the lady said they dun have much stock left. I'm a lucky man, i managed to get 2 Robos.

had some wild spending though:

Habitrail Safari( which i think the robo will not slip out of the cage)
Habitrail bottle(with a fancy clip)
Prestige Hamster food
bedding Delikate
Breeder Celect -cat litter
Delikate sand bath
Bengy hamster litter

and of course- 2 cute Roborovskis

i will try to post some photo later..they are still trying to learn the new environment.
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Welcome to the club... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Don't worry, they will not be able to slip out from the cage cause my robos still not able to do that yet...kekeke... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

I also want Breeder Celect!!!! brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Where you gonna put the toilet sand for them? You should get a ceramic bowl or a corner toilet as they like to dig and sleep inside, and they pee and poo inside too. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 16 2008, 05:40 AM)
wow.....i can see Mokie(if im not mistaken) from here....so big........yummyyyy,haha (j/k)
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I think that's Mofo as Mofo is staying in a 2ft tank not 1.5ft tank and Mokie is a golden banded.


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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 15 2008, 03:52 PM)
how much is the price for sanko wheel?
isnt the safari wheel already good enough for syrian?
or there are something wrong with safari wheel?
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The Sanko wheel is about RM70+ as it is more expensive than out 2ft tank and Jackjack is able to climb up to the lid of the tank using the wheel and this make us change to ZooZone2 sweat.gif sweat.gif Now we are thinking of getting another 2 Wodent wheels, thinking of what to do with all the wheels hmm.gif hmm.gif


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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 15 2008, 04:29 PM)
habitrail going to stop the safari production right?
i'm going to find a new wheel for montee too..
i hope there's sanko wheel around here.. biggrin.gif
KP is doing bulk for wodent wheel which cost around rm70-80 i think..
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Too bad that there's no Sanko wheel selling in KL pet shops as we already went to almost all big pet shops as small pet shop will not have it too cause its expensive. We bought the last one from Pets Lover Center in SP rclxms.gif Thinking of whether want to buy or not as its expensive but at the end we did. We found out that it's Sanko wheel after we did our research and just feel so lucky icon_rolleyes.gif

Maybe you can try looking for it in Singapore if you happen to be there like what Missgeek did nod.gif

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they are still quite shy. they have yet to try the wheel.

I know there is a lot of bedding...haha..i just dun wan the cage to smell.. i mix the delikate bedding with breeder celect.
for the toilet, the look-out will be their toilet, i put those hamster litter at that place.. yes,they really sleep there,poo there..haha tongue.gif

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Robo is very tame..they have not bite me..

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Guys, how to litter train a syrian?
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Im planning to buy hamsters , im not really that experienced.So which hamster should i buy??I have cared for hamsters before and know all the basic stuff.
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Thought you already have a rare syrian with you? What happened to the black eyed ivory? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

Still want to buy ar? If you know the basic stuffs then you should know which species of hamsters is suitable for you. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


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they are still quite shy. they have yet to try the wheel.

I know there is a lot of bedding...haha..i just dun wan the cage to smell.. i mix the delikate bedding with breeder celect.
for the toilet, the look-out will be their toilet, i put those hamster litter at that place.. yes,they really sleep there,poo there..haha tongue.gif

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Robo is very tame..they have not bite me..
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Nice Safari you got there. But the bottle is too high for the robos. You can put the bottle inside the Safari at a lower bar. We are doing the same for the same setup. Just observe if they can reach the bottle or not.


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Guys, how to litter train a syrian?
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my robo can drink from tat bar..& its the lowest it can go from outside..unless u gonna put the bottle inside the cage tongue.gif
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 16 2008, 11:11 PM)
Thought you already have a rare syrian with you? What happened to the black eyed ivory? unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

Still want to buy ar? If you know the basic stuffs then you should know which species of hamsters is suitable for you. sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif


Added on January 16, 2008, 11:12 pm

Nice Safari you got there. But the bottle is too high for the robos. You can put the bottle inside the Safari at a lower bar. We are doing the same for the same setup. Just observe if they can reach the bottle or not.


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Don't think you can potty train a syrian like a cat or dog. Please let me know if you can. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Oh ya guys, i want buy dwarf hamsters, can i put 2 dwarves in 1 cage?
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2 of my sibling hamsters (males) suddenly fight 1 day.. they're around 2 months old.. for those who have managed to keep 2 sibling brothers in de same tank/cage, how did u do it? i plan to buy 1.5ft tank for both of them, any idea how to reintroduce? or is it just impossible anymore?

ps/ i've separated them for 2 days now.. obviously they've forgotten each other
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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 16 2008, 05:40 AM)
wow.....i can see Mokie(if im not mistaken) from here....so big........yummyyyy,haha (j/k)
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Down there is MoFo smile.gif he is pigging out, he should be a GP lol. That bowl is the 'dog it' bowl, medium size, when he sits in there, cannot see his food anymore, hahaha.
Mokie is the one upstairs tongue.gif he's big now too.. they grow so fasttttt!


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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 16 2008, 06:27 AM)
You bought ZooZone2!!! Your house getting more animals d. sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

How you do that 2nd platform for the 1.5 feet tank? Habitrail I think....
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Hehehe... yes, my house like rodent zoo already. I really need to take care of the smell cos i stay in a studio biggrin.gif no where to run from the smell, hahaha! The platform, first i put double sided, the one for the ikea mirror, I thought it'll be strong enough... but then it wasn't , so when my friend came buy help me drill the holes for the water bottle, i asked to drill and fasten the platform with screw, but I also put the screw filler, wood type. It looks ugly from that side tongue.gif the double sided cannot peel off, and a screw with wood filler potruding at the outside, hahahahah! Mokie knows how to climb on top of that hood and go out if the lid is open sweat.gif now he still can reach and bite the plastic lid, once he's bigger, i need to take off that blue hood already leh. If he grows as big as MoFo, need to change tank alreadddyy...

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 17 2008, 12:51 AM)
Mokie knows how to climb on top of that hood and go out if the lid is open  sweat.gif now he still can reach and bite the plastic lid, once he's bigger, i need to take off that blue hood already leh. If he grows as big as MoFo, need to change tank alreadddyy...
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He can escape if he bites through the lid loh

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He can escape if he bites through the lid loh
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Yeah i know tongue.gif now he still cannot but he will soon. biggrin.gif I'll take out the hood first, he's still too short without the blue hood. But when he's big like MoFo, time to take it down (or change tank biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 17 2008, 01:57 AM)
Yeah i know tongue.gif now he still cannot but he will soon. biggrin.gif I'll take out the hood first, he's still too short without the blue hood. But when he's big like MoFo, time to take it down (or change tank biggrin.gif)
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If you take off the hood, wouldn't it be possible for him to climb right out? (Since he can reach the lid already?)
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the bottle at that height is just fine..my robo manage to drink water..
now i'm planning to put add-ons and tunnels..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 17 2008, 12:00 AM)
2 of my sibling hamsters (males) suddenly fight 1 day.. they're around 2 months old.. for those who have managed to keep 2 sibling brothers in de same tank/cage, how did u do it? i plan to buy 1.5ft tank for both of them, any idea how to reintroduce? or is it just impossible anymore?

ps/ i've separated them for 2 days now.. obviously they've forgotten each other
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owh~ i tink sumwhere ave mention bout this...hamster fighting is to see who is more dominant and if the fight is serious better to separate them...and in the wikipedia oso said dat they are solitary...i tink it is imposibble now sweat.gif
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 15 2008, 11:57 AM)
You should try giving a sand bathe. It helps with all my hammies. I give them a sand bathe once a week. JackJack doesn't like it though laugh.gif
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Does sand bathe really helps with their smell?

I didn't really notice this but i put sand bathe for 3 of my syrians. They love it very much... and i love to see them playing with their sand... biggrin.gif



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does syrian like sand bath..?
i thought they dont like sand bath that much.. i read somewhere in this forum i think  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 15 2008, 03:45 PM)
How to give them once a week? Leave the sand for 2 hours then remove from the cage?

Do I change the sand every time I clean the cage ? (I clean cage once a week)

See the photo below. I found that they actually move some kuaci + wood shaving there and they shit there as well.

This is suppose to be their bathing Den. After 1 day, cannot see the sand anymore.
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2 of my Syrians, Sappy and Baby know how to pee and poo in the bathing Den but Hammy don't, he just go in there and enjoy showering... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 16 2008, 12:34 AM)
to all hamsters lover, i'm in this club d... today went to pet shack to check out their hams. the lady said they dun have much stock left. I'm a lucky man, i managed to get 2 Robos.

had some wild spending though:

Habitrail Safari( which i think the robo will not slip out of the cage)
Habitrail bottle(with a fancy clip)
Prestige Hamster food
bedding Delikate
Breeder Celect -cat litter
Delikate sand bath
Bengy hamster litter

and of course- 2 cute Roborovskis

i will try to post some photo later..they are still trying to learn the new environment.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 16 2008, 12:46 AM)
Syrians do not sand bath. They have long fur and rarely or never have greasy fur like Robos and Dwarf hamsters.... they groom themselves like cats, so if you give them a sand bath, the will just dig or pee in it rather than roll around.

Most of the Habitrail extensions, especially those that are suppose to be hamster toilets actually do not become hamster toilets but more like a storage room or sleeping room... For toilets, is best to give them a bowl that is deep and heavy enough for them to sand bath in and use as a toilet.
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But my syrians love to dig and play with sand bath though... blush.gif


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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 17 2008, 12:00 AM)
2 of my sibling hamsters (males) suddenly fight 1 day.. they're around 2 months old.. for those who have managed to keep 2 sibling brothers in de same tank/cage, how did u do it? i plan to buy 1.5ft tank for both of them, any idea how to reintroduce? or is it just impossible anymore?

ps/ i've separated them for 2 days now.. obviously they've forgotten each other
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Mine is ok but the problem is with the adult male. Keep on biting. Aggressive type. Should get from breeder instead. I have 5 siblings in a cage. So far very peaceful.
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Welcome enferno! Share the pics soon!

BTW, bought meself 2 GP  blush.gif Here's a pic and stories in GP thread biggrin.gif

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Guys, how to litter train a syrian?
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As for mine, sometimes they like to pee and poo at this corner, then another week, they change another corner... basically they will try all the corners and everywhere... heheheh doh.gif

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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 16 2008, 09:55 PM)
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they are still quite shy. they have yet to try the wheel.

I know there is a lot of bedding...haha..i just dun wan the cage to smell.. i mix the delikate bedding with breeder celect.
for the toilet, the look-out will be their toilet, i put those hamster litter at that place.. yes,they really sleep there,poo there..haha tongue.gif

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Robo is very tame..they have not bite me..
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 16 2008, 09:42 PM)
Im planning to buy hamsters , im not really that experienced.So which hamster should i buy??I have cared for hamsters before and know all the basic stuff.
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as blurjoey said,we thought u aready have one sweat.gif

if u wanna let go sinclair or wateva her name...let me know tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 17 2008, 07:29 AM)
as blurjoey said,we thought u aready have one sweat.gif

if u wanna let go sinclair or wateva her name...let me know tongue.gif
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If he want to let go of her, I think she is better off back to Reanne as she was previous owner. I think the syrian might need extra care, who knows what have happened to her in FrostFox's care. unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

Anyway don't think you can stand the smell of a syrian's tank in 5-7 days time. If you use a 2 feet tank even worst when you open the lid. I know how it smells like because Fumoffu is using the 2 feet tank and it stinks in less than 7 days shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif


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blurjoey*

the bottle at that height is just fine..my robo manage to drink water..
now i'm planning to put add-ons and tunnels..
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If you are looking for tubes for the safari, me and sangels got some habitrail mini tubes (which is suitable for robos) to sell. PM me or sangels if you are interested.

Not using anymore cause it is really a pain to wash once a week as the robos will pee, poo, eat, and sleep inside the tubes. Also I have a ZooZone2 and a 2feet tank to wash also with the Habitrail Safari. Let you know what you are getting into first.

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QUOTE(hooverbell @ Jan 17 2008, 03:03 AM)
Does sand bathe really helps with their smell?

I didn't really notice this but i put sand bathe for 3 of my syrians. They love it very much... and i love to see them playing with their sand...  biggrin.gif



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3 of my Syrians love sand bath alot.......  thumbup.gif  you can give a try.
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Well it does help a little with the smell as Fumoffu stinks abit. I would usually put them in a small tank with bathing for them to run around in but never see them roll around tongue.gif JackJack doesn't like sand bath but he is fine cause he always groom himself.
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does any1 sell sand bath here? i'm lazy to go to pet shop.. hehe.. my robos are not smelly but i'm curious tat how they do sand bath
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jan 17 2008, 04:15 AM)
Mine is ok but the problem is with the adult male. Keep on biting. Aggressive type. Should get from breeder instead. I have 5 siblings in a cage. So far very peaceful.
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how many males do u have in a cage? my cage very big for 2 hamsters wor sumore they only 2 months old.. i oso dunno y so fast fight dy.. now 1 is in a cage n another in a 1.5ft tank.. wah.. headache.. stil wish to re-intro both of them if possible.. any1 has suggestions?

btw many ppl mention tat males do fight.. but i also encounter 2 adult females being aggressive to each other(no injuries cos i put 1 of them at the other side of the cage for testing tongue.gif )

do any1 actually managed to keep 2 siblings (same sex, either boy or gal) together till they reach adulthood? can i do tat by providing a bigger tank for them?
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cry.gif i duno what happen to 1 of my robo..just now i went check on them..1 of it died & was cannibalise..yesterday all were ok..i check the food..theres plenty of it..haih..duno why..they have been living happily for months...

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If he want to let go of her, I think she is better off back to Reanne as she was previous owner. I think the syrian might need extra care, who knows what have happened to her in FrostFox's care. unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

Anyway don't think you can stand the smell of a syrian's tank in 5-7 days time. If you use a 2 feet tank even worst when you open the lid. I know how it smells like because Fumoffu is using the 2 feet tank and it stinks in less than 7 days shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

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Hmm maybe genetics? The smell I mean? Only MoFo doesnt stink and I clean his tank only once in 2 weeks! The rest of the syrians, GOD HELP! I saw some tablets/liquid to put in water so that it doesnt smell. Dont know if that will work. hmm.gif


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sorry to hear that NewbieBetta
as i know, in my past experience.. my hams will only attack each other if they were no food and water. especially water as hams cant survive long without water (they can survive if there is no food and got only water)

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sorry to hear that NewbieBetta
as i know, in my past experience.. my hams will only attack each other if they were no food and water. especially water as hams cant survive long without water (they can survive if there is no food and got only water)
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 17 2008, 09:54 AM)
Well it does help a little with the smell as Fumoffu stinks abit. I would usually put them in a small tank with bathing for them to run around in but never see them roll around tongue.gif JackJack doesn't like sand bath but he is fine cause he always groom himself.
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Bought the 1 feet tank and bath sands... put the syrians in... they just sniff2 and look stupid inside there tongue.gif and then busy want to get out tongue.gif what i did is i put some sand on their back and rub it in tongue.gif did the same with the GP tongue.gif But they eat the sand, is it hazardous? I faster take them out after i saw it, but i know they ate some also.
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 17 2008, 02:32 PM)
cry.gif i duno what happen to 1 of my robo..just now i went check on them..1 of it died & was cannibalise..yesterday all were ok..i check the food..theres plenty of it..haih..duno why..they have been living happily for months...

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Omg!!!

Sorry to hear that dude! notworthy.gif

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yay!
i got new babies!!

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Congratulations!!!

Wow , 1 bad news and 1 good news.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 17 2008, 03:07 PM)
Bought the 1 feet tank and bath sands... put the syrians in... they just sniff2 and look stupid inside there tongue.gif and then busy want to get out tongue.gif what i did is i put some sand on their back and rub it in tongue.gif did the same with the GP tongue.gif But they eat the sand, is it hazardous? I faster take them out after i saw it, but i know they ate some also.
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Usually my syrians will just run around and dig here and there. Sometimes will put of the sand over their bodies or roll them over gently.

I think the sand is not hazardous as hamsters are from the deserts. Maybe they are moving the sand like how the moved hay? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif

I saw in the GP thread that your 2 GPs is in a tank with toilet sand wor... Is this the 'bathing' sand you mentioned? Bathing sand is finer and white/yellow color like those sand in white beaches. I think you are using the wrong sand. You should use the bathing sand instead of the toilet sand tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 17 2008, 02:32 PM)
cry.gif i duno what happen to 1 of my robo..just now i went check on them..1 of it died & was cannibalise..yesterday all were ok..i check the food..theres plenty of it..haih..duno why..they have been living happily for months...

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QUOTE(NeaRDeatH @ Jan 16 2008, 04:39 PM)
wow...feeding with padi will result in pandan smell??
it is sumkind of a symptom of disease of its ok??
if it is ok then i wanna to try la...hehe  sweat.gif
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do u mean the hamster with pandan smell is a symptom of disease??
what kind of disease? sweat.gif


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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 17 2008, 02:32 PM)
cry.gif i duno what happen to 1 of my robo..just now i went check on them..1 of it died & was cannibalise..yesterday all were ok..i check the food..theres plenty of it..haih..duno why..they have been living happily for months...

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huh blink.gif
do u mean the hamster with pandan smell is a symptom of disease??
what kind of disease?  sweat.gif
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nop they doesnt fight..they 3 of them have been together for like months..kinda weird suddenly 1 of them were dead..
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hmm..
my lil bro robos died just like that
water bottle emptied for a long time is the reason
they do fight to survive

just check the other robos next time
u said there were 3 of them
we dont want to get 1 more end dead next morning
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 17 2008, 03:30 PM)
Usually my syrians will just run around and dig here and there. Sometimes will put of the sand over their bodies or roll them over gently.

I think the sand is not hazardous as hamsters are from the deserts. Maybe they are moving the sand like how the moved hay? unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

I saw in the GP thread that your 2 GPs is in a tank with toilet sand wor... Is this the 'bathing' sand you mentioned? Bathing sand is finer and white/yellow color like those sand in white beaches. I think you are using the wrong sand. You should use the bathing sand instead of the toilet sand tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT? tongue.gif haiyakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! No wonder they ignore sweat.gif
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 17 2008, 09:04 AM)
If he want to let go of her, I think she is better off back to Reanne as she was previous owner. I think the syrian might need extra care, who knows what have happened to her in FrostFox's care. unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif

Anyway don't think you can stand the smell of a syrian's tank in 5-7 days time. If you use a 2 feet tank even worst when you open the lid. I know how it smells like because Fumoffu is using the 2 feet tank and it stinks in less than 7 days shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif


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If you are looking for tubes for the safari, me and sangels got some habitrail mini tubes (which is suitable for robos) to sell. PM me or sangels if you are interested.

Not using anymore cause it is really a pain to wash once a week as the robos will pee, poo, eat, and sleep inside the tubes. Also I have a ZooZone2 and a 2feet tank to wash also with the Habitrail Safari. Let you know what you are getting into first.
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after reading from what you said, cleaning is a problem for me..haha.. have to wash each tube... i will think abt it 1st.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 17 2008, 08:51 PM)
after reading from what you said, cleaning is a problem for me..haha.. have to wash each tube... i will think abt it 1st.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif You better think first as we also happily extended the cage and end up tiredly washing it sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 17 2008, 09:41 PM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif You better think first as we also happily extended the cage and end up tiredly washing it  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Perhaps a slightly quicker but less economical way of washing the tubes is to:
Soak the tubes in a mild dilution of dettol and warm water for about an hour. Then rinse off and put under the sun to dry smile.gif
Soaking eliminates the need to scrub. tongue.gif

I say less economical because you may end up using more water. wink.gif

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convinience always beats costs smile.gif i always soak my hamster cage tubes in alot of soap tongue.gif then i soak it in normal water..It always comes out super clean...smile.gif
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 17 2008, 10:04 PM)
convinience always beats costs smile.gif i always soak my hamster cage tubes in alot of soap tongue.gif then i soak it in normal water..It always comes out super clean...smile.gif
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Just wondering, do you just soak it in normal water or you rinse it off properly? If you use a lot of soap, soaking it in normal water may not totally wash off the soap and the residue would be harmful for the hammies.
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QUOTE(jtl @ Jan 17 2008, 10:37 PM)
Just wondering, do you just soak it in normal water or you rinse it off properly? If you use a lot of soap, soaking it in normal water may not totally wash off the soap and the residue would be harmful for the hammies.
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nod.gif nod.gif Yes, that's why we spent so much time on cleaning their cages. We usually clean it after sun set, can't put under the sun and let it dry. We normally clean it with mild soap and rinse off with running water and then dry it with cloth and then only assemble it back. That's why takes time to do all that, luckily both of us are sharing the work smile.gif That's why now no more tubes and extensions sweat.gif
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cry.gif i duno what happen to 1 of my robo..just now i went check on them..1 of it died & was cannibalise..yesterday all were ok..i check the food..theres plenty of it..haih..duno why..they have been living happily for months...

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i used to have about 5 syrians back when i was at sabah. then one of them gave birth to another 5 so at one point i had 10. but it was so sad. the mom had an eye infection 3-4 days after delivering the babies and so when she died, eventually all the baby died sad.gif

i'm no sure if it's only me or what but i think they're really hard to tame. they selectively love to bite me (i don't know why!!!) but were nice to the rest of my housemates. grrrrr!!!!!

gosh... and they always attract cats from my neighbourhood. many times i see several cats waiting at my porch and trying to find their way into the house. there was once when we forgot to close the window at night, the next morning i saw a cat sitting right in front of the hamster cage and enjoying the view. lol! good thing the cat didn't attack them... YET!

i dun rare anymore hamsters now... hehe... since i'm back in kl n there are more pet choices here (they only have syrians in sabah)...
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 17 2008, 10:04 PM)
convinience always beats costs smile.gif i always soak my hamster cage tubes in alot of soap tongue.gif then i soak it in normal water..It always comes out super clean...smile.gif
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This shows how shallow your knowledge is about taking care of pets. Any kind of pets. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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frostfox need to do thorough study about taking care of pet...
or your pet will end up in "another world"...
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SOSOSOSOSOSOSO HJAPPPYYYYY!!!!!!!! MY VERENA JUST GIVE BIRTH TO 2 PUPS!! So red... sweat.gif

Ah, she ate one of the pups, i don't know why, i didn't even touch it...

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My Roborovskii just gave birth to 4 pups yesterday... Can anyone tell me what extra food I need to give her to meet her nutrient requirement after giving birth? Don't tell me bird nest pls~ Thx!
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QUOTE(xtremer @ Jan 18 2008, 06:14 AM)
My Roborovskii just gave birth to 4 pups yesterday... Can anyone tell me what extra food I need to give her to meet her nutrient requirement after giving birth? Don't tell me bird nest pls~ Thx!
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SOSOSOSOSOSOSO HJAPPPYYYYY!!!!!!!! MY VERENA JUST GIVE BIRTH TO 2 PUPS!! So red... sweat.gif

Ah, she ate one of the pups, i don't know why, i didn't even touch it...
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shocking.gif shocking.gif How come only gave birth to 2??? I thought suppose to be more than that? Or the rest already got eaten cry.gif

Please read up post #3 in page 1 for more info.

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QUOTE(sky388 @ Jan 17 2008, 04:29 PM)
huh blink.gif
do u mean the hamster with pandan smell is a symptom of disease??
what kind of disease?  sweat.gif
huhuhu..datz y i ask people around here...does anyone noe y this is happening?? coz if it is safe i eagerly wanna try it and all my room will fill in the smell of pandan coz i got 7tank of my hammy sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 17 2008, 04:42 PM)
it's a pandan disease laugh.gif doh.gif  doh.gif
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aiyak doh.gif doh.gif pandan desease??can it be cure?? laugh.giflaugh.gif
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
frostfox need to do thorough study about taking care of pet...
or your pet will end up in "another world"...
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maybe u can teach him/her,soulx...?haha

just got habitrail safari today at petlover centre in sunway...2nd time go there,nice shop compare to others,imho,lol.....now looking for the syrian..maybe saturday can go around KL searching for a cute one....
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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 18 2008, 08:56 AM)
maybe u can teach him/her,soulx...?haha

just got habitrail safari today at petlover centre in sunway...2nd time go there,nice shop compare to others,imho,lol.....now looking for the syrian..maybe saturday can go around KL searching for a cute one....
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You want to put a syrian in a Habitrail Safari??? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif That cage is so small for a syrian. Dwarfs still can use Habitrail Safari but syrian is too big for it. Why don't you get 2 feet tank instead?

Believe me, Fumoffu used to stay in a Habitrail Safari and less than 1 day we changed him to a 2 feet tank after seeing how cramped it was for him in the Safari.

Also the smell of pee will be worst than the 2 feet tank. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif You can smell then in less than 20m. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
frostfox need to do thorough study about taking care of pet...
or your pet will end up in "another world"...
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Soulx,

Maybe you should research together with FrostFox... Can be his tutor... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 18 2008, 09:49 AM)
You want to put a syrian in a Habitrail Safari??? shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif That cage is so small for a syrian. Dwarfs still can use Habitrail Safari but syrian is too big for it. Why don't you get 2 feet tank instead?

Believe me, Fumoffu used to stay in a Habitrail Safari and less than 1 day we changed him to a 2 feet tank after seeing how cramped it was for him in the Safari.

Also the smell of pee will be worst than the 2 feet tank. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif You can smell then in less than 20m. laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Lol.....ok,i give the safari to my pearl WW wink.gif

now....anyone had spotted cute syrians in shops around KL recently?any recommended shop? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(NeaRDeatH @ Jan 18 2008, 07:50 AM)
huhuhu..datz y i ask people around here...does anyone noe y this is happening?? coz if it is safe i eagerly wanna try it and all my room will fill in the smell of pandan coz i got 7tank of my hammy  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
aiyak  doh.gif  doh.gif  pandan desease??can it be cure?? laugh.giflaugh.gif
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I see....misunderstanding tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 18 2008, 07:36 AM)
Please read up the first page in crazymouse's post for more info as she wrote about hamster's care and also on breeding  icon_idea.gif


Added on January 18, 2008, 7:39 am

shocking.gif  shocking.gif How come only gave birth to 2??? I thought suppose to be more than that? Or the rest already got eaten cry.gif

Please read up post #3 in page 1 for more info.
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Eh not 2. My sis say around 5 or something. but 2 left surviving...

Read it already! xD
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hi all, just bought a pearl ww from megamall.. vy cute n pretty but shy.. de guy thr told me she's only less than 1 month old, n i can c tat she's almost same size as my 3-weeks-old baby hammy.. de thing i'm puzzled is, how can she be separated from her mum at such a young age??i hope she wont be stunted..
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I tot hamsters can be seperated after 21days?
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Hi everyone.. I'm quite new here.. Can ask? This actually happen 3 yrs ago..
I used to have 2 males + 1 female (regular drawf hamsters).. all siblings.. They continued to multiply and end up so many until gv away... (I know, kick me.. back then i didn't know bout inbreeding) icon_question.gif
They all have since died of natural death.. lived up to 2 yrs++.. and my mom still feels sad cuz she misses them so much...

Out of the many litter.. Parents are grey and well.. dark grey.. the other sibling is brown.. came 1 very cute, all white red eyes male.. We had him for about 1week.. Then he started jumping like crazy inside the tank but he already did it for like 2 days so we thought he was fine.. So we went out for a few hours and went we came home.. he was dead.. shocking.gif

The tank was clean, so much food and water.. got wheel to play.. the others were fine.. So my question is... can a hamster actually die from jumping too much?...I had a guinea pig which died from heart attack.. Can jumping lead to stress on the heart and cause heart attack?
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Which brand of hamster food you guys feeding? I feed with the LM animal farms brand, any better alternative with better smell and greater nutri? If possible it's cheaper, i got 9 WW to feed LOL
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i feed my hamsters habitral, prestige..
habitral much cheaper than prestige..
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 18 2008, 12:31 PM)
hi all, just bought a pearl ww from megamall.. vy cute n pretty but shy.. de guy thr told me she's only less than 1 month old, n i can c tat she's almost same size as my 3-weeks-old baby hammy.. de thing i'm puzzled is, how can she be separated from her mum at such a young age??i hope she wont be stunted..
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Mass breeder / hamster mills always send their stocks to petshop at early age, so that they can have more space for another litters. As you know they can breed again right after the birth, by 2 weeks she will give birth again, that's why the earlier batch needs to be send to petshop for sale already.

Some people disagree in buying from petshops, I would say try not to... but I believe you just give a good chance to live happily for that winter white you just bought. smile.gif

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JTL is selling Wodent Wheel in garage sales:

Got Jr and Sr wheels... Going to get 2 from her... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry15216771

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 18 2008, 04:05 PM)
Mass breeder / hamster mills always send their stocks to petshop at early age, so that they can have more space for another litters. As you know they can breed again right after the birth, by 2 weeks she will give birth again, that's why the earlier batch needs to be send to petshop for sale already.

Some people disagree in buying from petshops, I would say try not to... but I believe you just give a good chance to live happily for that winter white you just bought. smile.gif
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actually din plan to buy 1.. but when c the pearls there.. drool.gif .. hehe.. so i bought storage box, wheel,etc on de same day juz to put tat pearl.. i love it so much it's as white as snow~

ps/ i bought her for rm25.. is it ex? but cant prevent myself dy ahahaha... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 18 2008, 01:35 PM)
Which brand of hamster food you guys feeding? I feed with the LM animal farms brand, any better alternative with better smell and greater nutri? If possible it's cheaper, i got 9 WW to feed LOL
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if you care so much about your hamster, find a good nutrition hamster food such Prestige or Harry Hamster..
if you want to cut the cost, just mix them with habitrail hamster food..
if you cant afford to give good food for your hamster, why bother to have 9 hamster? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 18 2008, 05:58 PM)
if you care so much about your hamster, find a good nutrition hamster food such Prestige or Harry Hamster..
if you want to cut the cost, just mix them with habitrail hamster food..
if you cant afford to give good food for your hamster, why bother to have 9 hamster? whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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OMG does it really bother you that I seek for cheaper alternative but with better nutrition, I stated there if possible I hope it's cheaper, I did not said it's a must to get cheap one. I'm not looking to start a flamewar, but please try to be considerable!
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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 18 2008, 08:00 PM)
OMG does it really bother you that I seek for cheaper alternative but with better nutrition, I stated there if possible I hope it's cheaper, I did not said it's a must to get cheap one. I'm not looking to start a flamewar, but please try to be considerable!
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GodLuvSxS, relax.. jangan marah..

you can try mix prestige and habitral..

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QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 18 2008, 07:00 PM)
OMG does it really bother you that I seek for cheaper alternative but with better nutrition, I stated there if possible I hope it's cheaper, I did not said it's a must to get cheap one. I'm not looking to start a flamewar, but please try to be considerable!
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Let me give my suggestion here. You buy a cheaper brand hamster mixed and prestige and mix it together. Prestige is around RM18-RM19 per packet, it can last for few months as I have 2 robos and 2 Syrians. The packet I bought in November still left about half packet. You can also buy some fresh vege from places like Tesco or Carefour to feed them as it's cheap and high in nutri. Pack the fresh vege with air lock bag and keep in the fridge and it will be fresh even after a week. You can also give fruits when you have yours. Small hamster don't eat that much right? Give just a nice portion and not too much so that don't waste. You can try that as I feel that's quite economic also.
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rclxub.gif i accidentally bought prestige chincilla nature for my hamsters doh.gif .. cos PLC sunway dun have hamster nature n i tot it's de same.. until i saw it sumwhere else.. sweat.gif they stil eat it anyway, altho i dunno they're forced to or reli like it.. unsure.gif

btw, is habitrail staple food good enough for hamsters? saw it in jusco for only rm7.xx (2kg plus)
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issit with coloring nuts like green & red?
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i just got 2 new hamster...trying to bela them .... i think m cage is too small for them both....they like to transfer their food to upper stairs......

i just read cant be 1 female and 1 male...omg i made a mistake....

and my hamster bite me sad.gif( .... then me afraid show hand...just show kuku....when show nails...they lick instead of bit and then loose intrest...
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some sifu in this thread said, habitrail is one of the best if compared to other cheap staple food e.g delikate etc. thats make me change from delikate to habitrail. like dien and some other forumer, i mixed habitrail with prestige, because cannot afford to feed prestige only to my hammies..(i had a syrian, pair of ww, five rc and pair of gerbil)
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oic.. oh ya btw, can i separate hamsters at 21 days old? wanna put 1 of them separately to fatten it up.. she's so small sized compared to her brother..
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Sob, sob... cry.gif My Timmy just got bitten by my cat then die.. Waaa!!!

Yesterday just become a father, now, .. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 19 2008, 06:48 AM)
Sob, sob... cry.gif My Timmy just got bitten by my cat then die.. Waaa!!!

Yesterday just become a father, now, .. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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sad to hear it sad.gif ......may he rest in peace
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 19 2008, 06:48 AM)
Sob, sob... cry.gif My Timmy just got bitten by my cat then die.. Waaa!!!

Yesterday just become a father, now, .. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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it proves this 2 animals should never put along. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jan 19 2008, 11:18 AM)
it proves this 2 animals should never put along.  shakehead.gif
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how come your Timmy got away from his cage?
is the gap between the bar is big? or you forgot to shut the door?
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 19 2008, 04:29 PM)
how come your Timmy got away from his cage?
is the gap between the bar is big? or you forgot to shut the door?
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Half of his face no more kulit.. .WAAAAAAAAAAAA cry.gif cry.gif
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it's a lesson for u and us..
never allow cats to go near our hamster..
they dont eat hamster but cats like to 'play' with hamster..
so better be more coutious next time
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'play' meaning?

i remember once my house mate's puppy went near my hamster cage.. then my hamster freaked out and froze, don't dare to make a move.. it's kinda funny actually, and interesting to know how they react to potential danger.. then when the dog lick the cage they ran as fast as they could.. haha..

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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 19 2008, 05:48 PM)
it's a lesson for u and us..
never allow cats to go near our hamster..
they dont eat hamster but cats like to 'play' with hamster..
so better be more coutious next time
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My cats don't really come to the hamster's cage
My timmy go near my cats place
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Im sleeping that time.. T_T"

Burried him just now, may he RIP.. cry.gif
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help! anyone here knows of any vet near sunway tat trim's hamster's overgrown teeth n how much will it cost? wat should i do at the moment? it's not eating n is losing weight..

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yeahhh....just got two syrians..1 male(gold banded) and 1 female(cream)

soulx.....come la to my room......teach me how to tame my new syrians,lol rclxms.gif

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to abg brother - - ->may ur timmy R.I.P cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 19 2008, 06:51 PM)
yeahhh....just got two syrians..1 male(gold banded) and 1 female(cream)

soulx.....come la to my room......teach me how to tame my new syrians,lol rclxms.gif
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unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif ... Soulx go to Core_Trace's room... unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif... To teach him how tame his new syrians... (imagining 2 guys in a room 'taming' hamsters) shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 19 2008, 06:45 PM)
help! anyone here knows of any vet near sunway tat trim's hamster's overgrown teeth n how much will it cost? wat should i do at the moment? it's not eating n is losing weight..
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Check this out, see whether can help you or not. Wonder how you are sure it's a teeth problem but not other problem unsure.gif

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=18&cat=1799&articleid=3078

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cl...&articleid=3093


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what to do if my hamster smells even after i wash the cage and everything?
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What kind of hamster first? Please don't go and wash your hamster with hamster shampoo or any kind of shampoo.

Dwarfs can try sand bath. Get a deep bowl and put bathing sand inside and put inside the cage. Or put the dwarfs in a small tank with some bathing sand inside for about 10-15 minutes.

Syrian will groom itself but can try sand bathing in the small tank also. But syrian are not the bath sand kind of hamsters.
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@NearDeath-----wat the heck?u can always see it,lol

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unsure.gif  unsure.gif unsure.gif ... Soulx go to Core_Trace's room... unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif... To teach him how tame his new syrians... (imagining 2 guys in a room 'taming' hamsters) shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Lol, i know u have sangels to help u taming urs...haha tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Guys, dwarfs is best keep 2 or alone?
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 19 2008, 09:05 PM)
Check this out, see whether can help you or not. Wonder how you are sure it's a teeth problem but not other problem  unsure.gif

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=18&cat=1799&articleid=3078

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cl...&articleid=3093

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Cos i see it's so small sized compared to her other siblings. At first i never gave it much thought, but today i noticed its strange shape of the mouth. So i check its teeth and saw them overgrown (upper teeth curved to the right and lower teeth curved to the left).

I thought and thought and finally used a nail clipper file(washed clean) and let it file its teeth(it likes to bite metal) while I'm holding it. It has become shorter but I'm afraid it's a bit too short. Wonder how long will it take for it to grow its teeth back to normal. At first too long, now too short rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 19 2008, 10:26 PM)
@NearDeath-----wat the heck?u can always see it,lol
Lol, i know u have sangels to help u taming urs...haha tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Yes... At least its male and female taming syrians... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif Anyway our syrians are tamed in the 1st place... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Not like you and soulx... Male and male "taming" syrians sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif Anyway have fun "taming"... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 19 2008, 11:09 PM)
Guys, dwarfs is best keep 2 or alone?
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Depends on what dwarfs you have... Please read page 1 for info... It's all there...

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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 19 2008, 10:26 PM)
@NearDeath-----wat the heck?u can always see it,lol
Lol, i know u have sangels to help u taming urs...haha tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Hmm.... hmm.gif hmm.gif thats sound so jealous

Anyway, they are not 'his' but ours icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif I no need to tame them on purpose especially Jackjack. He is already tame when we first bought him from Pet Shack rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Thanks to Joan notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Just spend more time and be patience, and you can tame them by yourself la. If someone go help you to tame, end up your hamsters get more attach with the other than you sweat.gif sweat.gif

Good luck to you anyway thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 18 2008, 06:01 AM)
SOSOSOSOSOSOSO HJAPPPYYYYY!!!!!!!! MY VERENA JUST GIVE BIRTH TO 2 PUPS!! So red... sweat.gif

Ah, she ate one of the pups, i don't know why, i didn't even touch it...
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She cannibalized coz firstly, she bred when she was too young... resulting in some pups being premature.... so she cannibalized them so they won't suffer later in life. If she cannibalize the remaining 2, means she is not ready to be a mom.

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Please read up the first page in crazymouse's post for more info as she wrote about hamster's care and also on breeding  icon_idea.gif


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shocking.gif  shocking.gif How come only gave birth to 2??? I thought suppose to be more than that? Or the rest already got eaten cry.gif

Please read up post #3 in page 1 for more info.
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Sometimes some give birth to a few is because get pregnant too early, sometimes female is not ready to be a mom and kills of her young.... things can happen.

QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 18 2008, 12:31 PM)
hi all, just bought a pearl ww from megamall.. vy cute n pretty but shy.. de guy thr told me she's only less than 1 month old, n i can c tat she's almost same size as my 3-weeks-old baby hammy.. de thing i'm puzzled is, how can she be separated from her mum at such a young age??i hope she wont be stunted..
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Petshops do not care, so of course they sell at 3 weeks old. Most of the hamsters from Pets Wonderland there are actually underage, the hamsters there are never 4 weeks but as young as 3 weeks.... they do grow stunted or get sick easily coz their immune system is very weak. Take extra care of it.

QUOTE(janice_fun @ Jan 18 2008, 01:02 PM)
Hi everyone.. I'm quite new here.. Can ask? This actually happen 3 yrs ago..
I used to have 2 males + 1 female (regular drawf hamsters).. all siblings.. They continued to multiply and end up so many until gv away... (I know, kick me.. back then i didn't know bout inbreeding) icon_question.gif
They all have since died of natural death.. lived up to 2 yrs++.. and my mom still feels sad cuz she misses them so much...

Out of the many litter.. Parents are grey and well.. dark grey.. the other sibling is brown.. came 1 very cute, all white red eyes male.. We had him for about 1week.. Then he started jumping like crazy inside the tank but he already did it for like 2 days so we thought he was fine.. So we went out for a few hours and went we came home.. he was dead..  shocking.gif

The tank was clean, so much food and water.. got wheel to play.. the others were fine.. So my question is... can a hamster actually die from jumping too much?...I had a guinea pig which died from heart attack.. Can jumping lead to stress on the heart and cause heart attack?
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It did not jump till it died. Because you inbred, it died from inbreeding.... hamsters that keep jumping continuously are like born with a disorder... like brain damaged....

guinea pigs are different, they are super sensitive and would die if they are too scared or are hurt.


QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 18 2008, 01:35 PM)
Which brand of hamster food you guys feeding? I feed with the LM animal farms brand, any better alternative with better smell and greater nutri? If possible it's cheaper, i got 9 WW to feed LOL
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You got 9.... I got more hahahah.... if you want cheaper, then mix a high quality brand with a normal brand. I mix Prestige with Harry Hamster and 2kg of Habitrail staple.... means RM18+RM18+RM13= RM49 and that only last me less than 3 weeks.... Also, I'm a student and my parents do not give me extra cash for my pets....

QUOTE(GodLuvSxS @ Jan 18 2008, 07:00 PM)
OMG does it really bother you that I seek for cheaper alternative but with better nutrition, I stated there if possible I hope it's cheaper, I did not said it's a must to get cheap one. I'm not looking to start a flamewar, but please try to be considerable!
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People here are not trying to flame you.... they are just concerned as to why you wanna find something cheaper.... coz to me, 9 hamsters is nothing compared to the 30 hamsters.... LOL... be cool about it. Everyone here is a concerned hamster owner, we would question alot and even may say somethings that we may not think it is that personal but to you maybe it is.... but just be cool about it and listen.

QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 18 2008, 10:34 PM)
rclxub.gif i accidentally bought prestige chincilla nature for my hamsters  doh.gif .. cos PLC sunway dun have hamster nature n i tot it's de same.. until i saw it sumwhere else.. sweat.gif they stil eat it anyway, altho i dunno they're forced to or reli like it..  unsure.gif

btw, is habitrail staple food good enough for hamsters? saw it in jusco for only rm7.xx (2kg plus)
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They will eat....

RM7 for habitrail is not 2kg.... it is 1.2kg..... 2 kg is RM12.50 to Rm13....

QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 19 2008, 01:01 AM)
oic.. oh ya btw, can i separate hamsters at 21 days old? wanna put 1 of them separately to fatten it up.. she's so small sized compared to her brother..
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Yes, you can separate.... but make sure it really can eat.

QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 19 2008, 06:45 PM)
help! anyone here knows of any vet near sunway tat trim's hamster's overgrown teeth n how much will it cost? wat should i do at the moment? it's not eating n is losing weight..
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It doesn't cost much.... about RM20 or maybe RM5... who knows what the vet may charge.... The teeth grows pretty fast.

QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 19 2008, 10:00 PM)
what to do if my hamster smells even after i wash the cage and everything?
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Female syrians smell.... coz of their heat cycle.... Do not bath it.

QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 19 2008, 11:09 PM)
Guys, dwarfs is best keep 2 or alone?
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Keep alone is best.... Robos only do well with pairs or small groups.

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i wonder why my 2 robo is so shy.. they dun play the wheel or let me touch them..they just eat,drink, hide or sleep..

they are like scared of my hand..<cry>

do i need to tame them? i'm spending quite sometime with them everyday.
like what joan told me b4 i bought them,they are superactive,they don't run, they zoommmm...hard to touch them though..
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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 20 2008, 02:41 AM)
i wonder why my 2 robo is so shy.. they dun play the wheel or let me touch them..they just eat,drink, hide or sleep..

they are like scared of my hand..<cry>

do i need to tame them? i'm spending quite sometime with them everyday.
like what joan told me b4 i bought them,they are superactive,they don't run, they zoommmm...hard to touch them though..
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Play with them often. Let them get familiar with your smell. I tamed my 3 syrians babies for 1 mth I think.. until they can step on my hand volunteerily and can be picked up. But I really spend a lot of times with them... untilI become nocturnal like now. smile.gif Since robo is the fastest hamsters, i hope u have a fast hands biggrin.gif
Oh btw, based on my xperience, the easiest way to tame is also let them stay in a tank instead of cages with tunnels etc. In tanks, it's easier for you to pet them while they eat, easy to catch them also. If commercial cages with tubes etc, they can run and hide when u wanna catch and play with them. The more they feel human touch, the more tame they'll be lar.

Let's the sifu confirmed this... from my experience, it really works.
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from my past experience on syrian, they are easier to tame than robo. but last night there is a great leap though, i try to bring them to the wheel and after they smell my hand they just run as fast as they can on the wheel.. after 1 hour, they started to know that a wheellllll and it's fun to run on it.

time to feed them now..haha..supper..!!!
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you individually feed your hamster based on time??i just put food in everyday lol??i dont have so much time to do that...
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QUOTE(Enferno @ Jan 20 2008, 03:14 AM)
from my past experience on syrian, they are easier to tame than robo. but last night there is a great leap though, i try to bring them to the wheel and after they smell my hand they just run as fast as they can on the wheel.. after 1 hour, they started to know that a wheellllll and it's fun to run on it.

time to feed them now..haha..supper..!!!
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Well well, I expected this when you say you wanna buy robos as my robos boys also like that. They are very different from Syrians, totally different rclxub.gif My robos only take treats from my hand and then run away. That's the best I can do so far, once they are tame, they'll become wild again if you stop playing with them for few days, that's why I get bitten from them cry.gif cry.gif :cry:They are so difficult to tame cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

Hope you can tame them one day, all the best to you flex.gif Gam-ba-teh!!!
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my syrian never bite me before lol...i play with it every once in a while but its always tame and never try to escape from the cage..it also freezes when i pet it...
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 20 2008, 03:08 AM)
Play with them often. Let them get familiar with your smell. I tamed my 3 syrians babies for 1 mth I think.. until they can step on my hand volunteerily and can be picked up. But I really spend a lot of times with them... untilI become nocturnal like now. smile.gif Since robo is the fastest hamsters, i hope u have a fast hands biggrin.gif
Oh btw, based on my xperience, the easiest way to tame is also let them stay in a tank instead of cages with tunnels etc. In tanks, it's easier for you to pet them while they eat, easy to catch them also. If commercial cages with tubes etc, they can run and hide when u wanna catch and play with them. The more they feel human touch, the more tame they'll be lar.

Let's the sifu confirmed this... from my experience, it really works.
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Hope I can be nocturnal like you too nod.gif nod.gif but I gotta wake up at 6am for work everyday and will not be at home for the whole day or more than 30 hours cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif Make me jealous of your work....

Congrats for your half a dozen of pets rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 11:36 AM)
my syrian never bite me before lol...i play with it every once in a while but its always tame and never try to escape from the cage..it also freezes when i pet it...
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My Syrians never bite me too... You are lucky cause you get your Syrians from a good breeder and not pet shops. I'm taking about robos will get untame after they became tame and left for few days without human touch. If you get bitten by your tame Syrians then you should be a terrible person and make them feel threaten... unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif Hope you are not blink.gif blink.gif

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im not .. or am i?? XD .. is there a diffrence in hamsters from pet shops and hamsters from people?
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 11:43 AM)
im not .. or am i?? XD .. is there a diffrence in hamsters from pet shops and hamsters from people?
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You got your black eyed ivory Syrian from Reanne, of course that's from breeder, wonder do you know the differences or not unsure.gif unsure.gif

Yes!! That's why all this while we strongly recommend people to buy from breeder rather than pet shop unsure.gif unsure.gif If you really read all the previous posts and you'll know what's the differences. I think you better read up so that you can catch up what we are discussing here icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 11:36 AM)
my syrian never bite me before lol...i play with it every once in a while but its always tame and never try to escape from the cage..it also freezes when i pet it...
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FrostFox,

If you have read up from the 1st page of this thread or V5 or other hamster websites. You would know that syrians will stay tamed even if you left them alone for a week or so without any human interactions.

sangels was talking about robos which will be untamed in a few days without human interactions and our syrians are tamed from the beginning because they come from good small pet shops owners who took better good care for them.

You got your rare syrian from Reanne but still you got a very long way to go in order know how to better take care of them. Hopefully the rare syrian Reanne gave you will have a good life with you. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 11:43 AM)
im not .. or am i?? XD .. is there a diffrence in hamsters from pet shops and hamsters from people?
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Dude,

For goodness sake, read from the first page of these thread. You will know there is a difference between getting from a big pet shop (pet safari) and getting from small pet shops (pet shack) and home breeders (reanne, crazymouse, nezu, etc).

This goes for other pets too if you don't know. Some small pet shops & home breeders do it for passion of the pets so they took better care of the pets whereas big pet shops do it for the profit and they don't handle the pets.

You should go to the peta website and watch how cruel they treat pets in those big shops.

Again please read more before replying as it makes you look silly sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 20 2008, 12:00 PM)
You got your rare syrian from Reanne but still you got a very long way to go in order know how to better take care of them. Hopefully the rare syrian Reanne gave you will have a good life with you.   
what do you mean by that??
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thanks crazymouse for answering all my ques n doubts smile.gif
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He meant that you gotta take good care of the rare Syrian you are having now as a good master to her by doing more research and study. So that your hamster can live happily till the end of her day.
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i mean ... who is Reanne?
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 13 2008, 10:21 PM)
Hey Frostfox! Is that Sinclair?

You better take good care of her ya, she's a rare hamster. She's a black eyed ivory syrian and I gave her to you so she can be cared for (Actually I gave her to your mom but she wanted to give to u). Post more pictures of her and Loretta if you can.

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One more thing, YOU PUT MY SAPPHIRE GIRL WITH YOUR WW AND SHE DIED??? Your mom is not going to hear the end of this tmrw! >:(
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 01:44 PM)
i mean ... who is Reanne?
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Since you dunno who is she, then forget about what I've said earlier on. I thought you know her (Reanne) and get your Syrian girl from her.... hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif


Added on January 20, 2008, 1:57 pm# Reanne:


Reanne, I'm just wonder you recognized the wrong hamster....... unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif


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uhh..who posted that??i put a dwarf hamster together and they died..not syrians
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 03:52 PM)
uhh..who posted that??i put a dwarf hamster together and they died..not syrians
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What type of dwarf hamster?

How did they die? Fighting or.....?
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Wah frost, so fast ady die? sweat.gif
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no...now i remember .. i had 3 WW's , 2 escaped and died .. the WW Reanne gave me is still alive smile.gif
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 13 2008, 10:21 PM)
Hey Frostfox! Is that Sinclair?

You better take good care of her ya, she's a rare hamster. She's a black eyed ivory syrian and I gave her to you so she can be cared for (Actually I gave her to your mom but she wanted to give to u). Post more pictures of her and Loretta if you can.

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One more thing, YOU PUT MY SAPPHIRE GIRL WITH YOUR WW AND SHE DIED??? Your mom is not going to hear the end of this tmrw! >:(
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FrostFox,

She said black eyed ivory syrian and this is a rare hamster... Read properly... It's a syrian... Not just WW...

The WW is another case which you put her Sapphire with a WW and she died!


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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 13 2008, 12:01 AM)
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My hamster..is it cute? lol..can anyone tell me what species this is?
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This is Sinclair the black eyed ivory syrian that Reanne is mentioning... And you don't know what hamster she is! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 12 2008, 09:54 PM)
hey..one time i didnt know anything about hamster and i put 2 white hamsters together for a week , one day i found the girl hamster breathing very slowly and she couldnt move , her ass was a kind of black color (abnormal color)and it was like she was gonna die..I tried taking here to the vet but was pronounced dead when i arrived there
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This is Sapphire that which "you don't know anything about hamster and put 2 white hamsters together for a week" cause her to die... vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

Remember any of this posts you posted previously? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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someone needs to guide frostfox with his hamsters..
LOTS of guide.. and of cause not me..


frostfox, if cant take care of that syrian, i can buy it from u..
haha just kidding icon_rolleyes.gif .. just take take care of that guy properly..

now blurjoey is mad at you.. laugh.gif



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i didnt kill her sapphire thinggy...its still with me...i accidentally killed my other 1 hamster..not the sapphire thingy what she said
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 06:01 PM)
i didnt kill her sapphire thinggy...its still with me...i accidentally killed my other 1 hamster..not the sapphire thingy what she said
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What thingy you talking about? Sapphire is a name like FrostFox not a thingy...

I really doubt all your posts now... From the beginning you asked about breeding to posting the picture of Sinclair asking what kind of hamster she is... Then you denied not knowing who is Reanne and the hamsters she gave you when sangels asked you. Then you said she gave you the WW without mentioning the syrian. Now this.

To tell you the truth, I'm not purposely aiming to shoot you for this but your posts really got a lot of doubts. So which is the truth? You're going in circles here with this...

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Hmmm, I thought I was the only one getting confused.

Frostfox, let's make it simple (I know none of my business la but just curious):

1. How many hamsters DID you have at first?

2. How many hamsters do you have NOW?

3. What breed are they?

4. How old are you?

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Seriously dude, READ THE FIRST PAGE!!!
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 20 2008, 06:34 PM)
Seriously dude, READ THE FIRST PAGE!!!
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I've been saying that don't know how many times already... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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I thought only youngsters don't know how to differentiate the hamster's species, but adult or maybe teenage like frostfox also don't bother to find out about that, sigh!!! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif And yet, also have short memories.....

#Frostfox:

You still don't know what we are concern about, we are not concern about who's hamster died or where you get it from, but we concern about a life, a hamster's life, no matter where or who you get the hamster from. As a hamster keeper, you should take good care of your pets, not let them escaped or even die and I'm really wonder how you keep them as they can escaped so easily and not only 1 hamster but 2!!!!! If you really that not concern and not bother, I don't think you are eligible to rare pets, you should take care of yourself instead. You better read all the previous posts you posted and know what we are talking about.

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Maybe he don't know the link, here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/607217

Or u could just click on the hamster logo in my sig. Then read all the infos.

Learn from there. smile.gif
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I think frostfox went to hide... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 20 2008, 06:56 PM)
Maybe he don't know the link, here, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/607217

Or u could just click on the hamster logo in my sig. Then read all the infos.

Learn from there. smile.gif
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I'm not good with IT stuffs also I know where to look for info and I think he knows where lar if he really take it seriously and concern. No ones will know everything...
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chill la all of you..
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QUOTE(frostfox @ Jan 20 2008, 08:10 PM)
*come out from under the table*

chill la all of you..
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I thought you crawled under a rock somewhere...

We will chill when we get the answers asked. Or you're not going to answer?

So which is it?
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wah .. long time didnt visit this thread . got so much thing happening edi ..

@frostfox : u better answer those question .. or this thread will full with angry ppl.
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*blur* so much confusion and 'hot' emotions around ere..

today my housemate's hamster died (of hunger i think, he last fed it 2 days ago).. i'm sooooo mad n also regret y i din check his hamster when i checked mine.. poor hamster, died such a painful death.. n now he gave me his cage cos he said got ghost inside tat cage..........

ps/ how long can a robo live? my housemate has an old-looking robo tat looks like can 'go' anytime soon..

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dunt want give to me la .. i got 14 robos ... sweat.gif

robos lifespan ar ? err i oso dunno . my oldest are a year ..
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I don't think frostfox can remember that maybe he have short term memory as he forgotten so many things before this unsure.gif unsure.gif

#coldfusionpower:
We are not angry people, just can not stand those people who are being so irresponsible and lack of basic knowledge yet not admitting and learn more. We are just people who loves our pets and don't wanna see pets are suffering and unhappy with their master. Hope that our suggestions can make things improve yet our effort are not appreciated.

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Hamster's life span is around 1.5-2.5 years depends how the master take care of them. I think the 'ghost' is not in the cage but but with your house mate as he causes the hamster to died of hunger ohmy.gif Don't think your house mate really care for his hamster as he can forget to feed it for 2 days. Very irresponsible hamster keeper mad.gif Maybe it's a good thing for the hamster to leave as no one care and bother cry.gif

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robo oso can live tat long ar? but tis 1 look so weak liddat dy.. he bought it last august.. aiyo, i oso dunno how he take care la.. i dunno much bout robo so tis time thr's nth much i can do.. true he's not responsible, he said "finally he died.." n i'm thinking tat he's lazy to take care of it anymore.. aih, sad lar happen in front of me.. even tho i dun have bonding with his hamster i oso feel sayang la..
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People out there who are bored or not interested to take care of hamster or pets anymore, please please please....let it go for adoption and there are people willing and love to take care of pets with their time and provide their pets with better care. Don't let your pets suffer.
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many ppl buy hamsters for a moment of fun.. but after tat they dun feel 'syiok' anymore, and it becomes a burden to take care of them.. i hope ppl out there realize tat hamsters are not toys or gadgets and will treat them with LOVE..
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Frostfox, I am your mom's vocal student. She knows me as Rachel.

Good that the sapphire girl is still alive, just try not to repeat that mistake. I actually gave the syrians Loretta and Sinclair to your mom, because I really like the way she cares for her. Your mom tells me a lot with what she does and always checks with me about the care and diet. She even told me she doesn't know why she sometimes sits in front of Loretta's tank and just watches her. biggrin.gif

Loretta is also rare, she is a het silver grey, and you can't find that size easily. Loretta is about 6 and a half inches from nose to tail and Sinclair is bigger, they also have cobby bodies and dish like faces. They are the result of selective breeding. But I discontinued Loretta's line because her mother carried a disease that seemed to pass to certain individuals in the litter, its not fatal or anything serious, but it's not good to continue the line if you know or suspect it may pass to the future generations and Loretta showed signs of it.

No, it's impossible for me to not recognize my own prized syrians. Loretta and Sinclair are not young anymore and they have been with me for over a year. It was hard to make the decision to give them up, but Frost's mom put me to ease knowing they went to better homes, though I had no idea he was clueless about hamsters.

Robos can live for up to 4 years. They have the longest documented lifespan out of the domestic hamsters.

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Frostfox, I am your mom's vocal student. She knows me as Rachel.

Good that the sapphire girl is still alive, just try not to repeat that mistake. I actually gave the syrians Loretta and Sinclair to your mom, because I really like the way she cares for her. Your mom tells me a lot with what she does and always checks with me about the care and diet. She even told me she doesn't know why she sometimes sits in front of Loretta's tank and just watches her. biggrin.gif

Loretta is also rare, she is a het silver grey, and you can't find that size easily. Loretta is about 6 and a half inches from nose to tail and Sinclair is bigger, they also have cobby bodies and dish like faces. They are the result of selective breeding. But I discontinued Loretta's line because her mother carried a disease that seemed to pass to certain individuals in the litter, its not fatal or anything serious, but it's not good to continue the line if you know or suspect it may pass to the future generations and Loretta showed signs of it.

No, it's impossible for me to not recognize my own prized syrians. Loretta and Sinclair are not young anymore and they have been with me for over a year. It was hard to make the decision to give them up, but Frost's mom put me to ease knowing they went to better homes, though I had no idea he was clueless about hamsters.

Robos can live for up to 4 years. They have the longest documented lifespan out of the domestic hamsters.
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Hmm... I hope Frostfox know who are you by now and hopefully he realized what he should do.

blush.gif blush.gif 4 years for robos.... Thats long. Then I'll still have about 3 years with my Jery and Remy. Thanks for the correct answer notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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i dont think frostfox will know Reanne unless he ask his mom..

guys, i just realize that there are some ants in my hamster tank.. i think they are attracted to the food..it's not too many, only a few..and last night, i put the tank next to head on the bed laugh.gif .. very worried if the ants do something bad to my montee..
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 20 2008, 11:21 PM)
i dont think frostfox will know Reanne unless he ask his mom..

guys, i just realize that there are some ants in my hamster tank.. i think they are attracted to the food..it's not too many, only a few..and last night, i put the tank next to head on the bed laugh.gif .. very worried if the ants do something bad to my montee..
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Buy some anti-ants medicine and put around the tanks. I tried it and now no more ants in all my tanks. You can buy the anti-ants med in powder form. Put in a small container and just leave it there.

How come you never show your Montee's picture to us?? unsure.gif unsure.gif We wanna see him leh. rclxms.gif

Frostfox should ask right since someone give your mom something and your mom pass it to you, won't you feel curious and wanna know where are the hamster from? On top of that Reanne already mentioned in the post before. If for me, I'll ask and say thank you, maybe I'm too curious unsure.gif unsure.gif

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can robos be tamed if handled from young? just curious to know


some funny moments..
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No one ordering the Wodent Wheel from JTL? Very cheap for a good wheel.

Taken from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/614605

For a limited time only, we are offering a promotion on these items
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 21 2008, 09:27 AM)
No one ordering the Wodent Wheel from JTL? Very cheap for a good wheel.

Taken from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/614605

For a limited time only, we are offering a promotion on these items
Wodent Wheel Junior 8"
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Promotion Price : RM58.50

Wodent Wheel Senior 11"
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Promotion Price : RM79.90
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noob question...do u ave a cheaper n smaller one??sory to ask..huhuhu

btw..i like ur signature...warning~!! irresponsible pet owner - frostfox !! kinda cool..LoL doh.gif

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Not me selling la... You ask JTL and see. I think she have others for sale also.

As long as he keep forgetting to answer then it will be there in my signature.
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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 20 2008, 10:32 PM)
Loretta is also rare, she is a het silver grey, and you can't find that size easily. Loretta is about 6 and a half inches from nose to tail and Sinclair is bigger, they also have cobby bodies and dish like faces. They are the result of selective breeding. But I discontinued Loretta's line because her mother carried a disease that seemed to pass to certain individuals in the litter, its not fatal or anything serious, but it's not good to continue the line if you know or suspect it may pass to the future generations and Loretta showed signs of it.
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Reanne,

Can I quote the above in another thread?

Just want to share what a good breeder does when they detect a genetic/disease that can be passed on to future litter/s smile.gif

Thanks!

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latest pic of my chubby ham ham..

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p/s : take a closer look at her eyes blush.gif
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QUOTE(siokjinlim @ Jan 21 2008, 02:56 PM)
latest pic of my chubby ham ham..

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p/s : take a closer look at her eyes  blush.gif
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JackJack's sibling! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

What tank are you using?

Accidently wake JackJack up from his sleep when taking this picture... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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JackJack exploring a small box wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
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Jack tired from exploring the small box sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Fumoffu the black banded syrian... Most of his pictures are blur. So only got 1 clear... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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very nice sleeping pose..& the blur look at there...
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 21 2008, 01:30 AM)
can robos be tamed if handled from young? just curious to know
some funny moments..
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Very cute robo,jayniel.
Hope you will use higher pixel camera to take the pic so we can see it clearly...
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one of my hamster seems to keep food in his pouch for a very long time.. even the food, well i can say more than 3 days ago is inside his pouch.. just now i 'push' out the food from his pouch n OMG THE SMELL......... i washed my hands twice n the smell is still there.. can i train him not to do that? i'm scared there will be infection when the food 'becomes bad' is his pouch.. even now i'm still giddy from the smell.. smells like vomit..

QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Jan 21 2008, 04:27 PM)
Very cute robo,jayniel.
Hope you will use higher pixel camera to take the pic so we can see it clearly...
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erm... tat's not robo, it's winter white.. n also, i dun have camera doh.gif so no choice but to use hp... very hard to get clear shot tho.. sad.gif

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Don't worry, your hamster knows when to keep the food and when to put it somewhere else, it won't get infected unless your hamster can't think straight or has it's senses messed up, or unless you feed it lots of peanut butter and banana. I doubt it's possible to train them not to do that, hamster actually does mean 'To hoard' after all. That's what they're famous for.
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yup, definitely jack jack's sibling... can go for DNA test if in doubt xD.. i use normal metal cage, the red thingy is a box where i put her in, while i clean her cage..
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siokjinlim,

I see from you signature you looking for another syrian also? You can put your name in queue for a syrian from Nezu. Currently got 3 person waiting. Need 2 more only. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=518656

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 21 2008, 09:27 AM)
No one ordering the Wodent Wheel from JTL? Very cheap for a good wheel.

Taken from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/614605

For a limited time only, we are offering a promotion on these items
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Promotion Price : RM58.50

Wodent Wheel Senior 11"
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I'm buying it. Just wait for money tho. xD
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huh... i hope i can hold my robos on my hand.. they r scared of my hand, even i put some treats on my hand n let them come, they don come also..

there's 1 thing very weird.. b4 tat they have a ladder to upstairs. B4 tat they r thin so they can go thru the ladder, but now alrd fat, cant go thru n stuck in the middle.. when i saw it i quickly make them out then i close the back of the stairs wif some cardboard. of cos they can still climb it but dono y after 'renovating' their stairs, they don wanna go upstairs anymore. until i take off the cardboard then only they climb upstairs. any reason y?

I cover like tis.. but now take off alrd.. i've used another method to cover the stairs.. hehe
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Jamince,

Robos will take some time to tame.

Hamsters are like that with their beddings. They will sweep all or some to a side. Its normal. All my hamsters does this except the robos... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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blurjoey...why ur signature declare frostfox like that.....pity him,lol

@Frostfox - i want sinclair if u cant handle him(if reanne permited me)...... laugh.gif

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OT-> anybody wanna buy ww hamsters? need some funds ere to buy food for my other hamsters..


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No need so ganas la, everyone is here to learn.

Better if you advertise in Garage Sales, they may delete the post.
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QUOTE(Core_Trace(R) @ Jan 21 2008, 06:21 PM)
blurjoey...why ur signature declare frostfox like that.....pity him,lol

@Frostfox - i want sinclair if u cant handle him(if reanne permited me)...... laugh.gif
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Dude. Let me ask you. Do know how many hamsters he had/has now? Or how many died? What hamsters he got also? You don't right from reading all his post besides asking him to let you have Sinclair.

Anyway stop trying to get your hands on Sinclair from FrostFox... Anyway he didn't admit having a syrian but still got picture to show it. If you get too much hamsters, your nose would overload from the smell... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

One more thing - Sinclair is a she not a he laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I will remove the banner when Frost Fox answers all the questions asked not by me but also others whom got confused with his posts. That is all I'm asking.

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I hope while him hiding under the table, he studies about hamsters. smile.gif

Rather than you hiding, FF, better you read the first post. smile.gif

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QUOTE(NeaRDeatH @ Jan 21 2008, 01:28 AM)
soulx~
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i miss CoreTrace's cream..
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OT-> anybody wanna buy ww hamsters? need some funds ere to buy food for my other hamsters..
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just want to ask..
what brand of bedding are you using??
i'm using delikat, and i find that it produces more dust covered my tank lid..
do you face same problem??
what kind of bedding which is less dusty??
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just want to ask..
what brand of bedding are you using??
i'm using delikat, and i find that it produces more dust covered my tank lid..
do you face same problem??
what kind of bedding which is less dusty??
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I love to help you but too bad mine is RC......

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Edit: Ah...I recall after reading all 5 hamster thread over hundreds of pages, I bought RC maybe bcoz can have more than 1......
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aikz.. then too bad lor.. hmmm.. maybe can consider to start rearing ww? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jamince @ Jan 21 2008, 05:51 PM)
huh... i hope i can hold my robos on my hand.. they r scared of my hand, even i put some treats on my hand n let them come, they don come also..

there's 1 thing very weird.. b4 tat they have a ladder to upstairs. B4 tat they r thin so they can go thru the ladder, but now alrd fat, cant go thru n stuck in the middle.. when i saw it i quickly make them out then i close the back of the stairs wif some cardboard. of cos they can still climb it but dono y after 'renovating' their stairs, they don wanna go upstairs anymore. until i take off the cardboard then only they climb upstairs. any reason y?

I cover like tis.. but now take off alrd.. i've used another method to cover the stairs.. hehe
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also, y they like to swing off the beddings to the corner? they don like the beddings? c my photo.. there's places without beddings cos they jus kick it off..
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i have the same situation here.. very very hard to tame..
last night, one of the robo bite me, cry.gif cry.gif , i think they dun like that.. strong bite, my finger bleed

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i've been bitten by my housemate's robo 3 times.. never bleed but painful.. after tat dun dare to touch it anymore.. maybe can try wear glove when hold de robo? so tat when it bites not tat painful..
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jayniel .. hahahahahah! UR avatar pic is damn cute lar!
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haha.. tat's my most most most favourite hamster named Cubi cos soooo chubby!! it was eating n pooing at de same time lol.. n after tat it stoned.. sweat.gif i happened to catch his 'act' on video but it was taken vertically n i dunno how to rotate it so cant post..

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just want to ask..
what brand of bedding are you using??
i'm using delikat, and i find that it produces more dust covered my tank lid..
do you face same problem??
what kind of bedding which is less dusty??
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Currently the syrians are using a mix of breeder celect, aspen shavings, healthy pet and timothy hay.

Robos is using corn cob, healthy pet and timothy hay.
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This is how my hamsters zzz usually. Notice the right hand side hamster zzz with the butt up


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my fattest hamster.

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after 1 day, blurjoey declared war against frostfox.. i wanna join you !! rclxm9.gif
but later if i do something wrong.. dont declare war against me too.. sweat.gif
two person in this thread that i'm scared if i do something wrong is blurjoey and hun.. LOL
very afraid if kena marah.. wink.gif

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after 1 day, blurjoey declared war against frostfox.. i wanna join you !! rclxm9.gif
but later if i do something wrong.. dont  declare war against me too.. sweat.gif
two person in this thread that i'm scared if i do something wrong is blurjoey and hun.. LOL
very afraid if kena marah.. wink.gif
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Hmm.... hmm.gif Really that scary??? unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif Sound like dicipline teacher in school... tongue.gif As long as you don't do thing which is wrong and treat your hamster well, I think you are 'safe'... tongue.gif

I don't take it as war but he really need to evaluate what he had done and still doing... He need to really know about basic thing and be more mature and not silly as he is dealing with life although we are talking about non-human but still a live and we need to take it seriously. Do not harm or hurt the living things instead of wanna care for them... sweat.gif sweat.gif

They are not what you think they are.... They are just nice people who are care for the animals and willing to learn and do more research and share...

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lol... its ok la, i prefer to shop myself for my next syrian blurjoey.. when i see the right one, i'll definitely get my hands on it... then, might consider starting a breeding line of my own...

and jayniel, lol, i'm sowiee, its not that i dont like your ww, but, i see that they're so fortunate to have you as their owner... i'm probably gonna get the one i saw in the petshop the other day.. its a pearl ww, looked tiny and pityful.. and labelled by the shop owner as "fierce".. sp they kepth him aside with all the big RCs..
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 21 2008, 11:49 PM)
after 1 day, blurjoey declared war against frostfox.. i wanna join you !! rclxm9.gif
but later if i do something wrong.. dont  declare war against me too.. sweat.gif
two person in this thread that i'm scared if i do something wrong is blurjoey and hun.. LOL
very afraid if kena marah.. wink.gif
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Lol..its ok la kne marah....like the proverb says "marah tandanya sayang"....haha

Btw....very tired in taming my syrians.....i think they are too little.....now a little scared to hold the creamy one coz she can easily pee when feel afraid rolleyes.gif ....feel pity to NearDeath coz he's the 1st 'victim'..haha.....lucky im not
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Lol..its ok la kne marah....like the proverb says "marah tandanya sayang"....haha

Btw....very tired in taming my syrians.....i think they are too little.....now a little scared to hold the creamy one coz she can easily pee when feel afraid rolleyes.gif  ....feel pity to NearDeath coz he's the 1st 'victim'..haha.....lucky im not
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Tired taming your syrians? tongue.gif I fully trained 3 syrians babies I got from petshop... hehehe. 2 is successfully tamed... 1 is still very stubborn... always think I'm big giant human who will eat him... maybe his personality... oh well... still ongoing taming + the guinea pigs biggrin.gif Mocha is half tamed, at least not running like mad so much when I pick her up or pet her while she eats.. but latte... OMG. Like sprinter only, kalah also jon johnson I think tongue.gif

Keep on handling and playing with ur syrian core_trace. Some is very fast, some takes time. If they angry already, dont push ur luck, respect their wishes, in turn, they will respect you nod.gif

ps: MoFo is the tamest since he is already half tame when I got him. Now whatever I do he ignore only, lol. I poked him here there, he just dont care anymore, hahaha!

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Waa, so much trouble with syrians from pet shops? Went to the pet store area in Pudu market, the syrians there were so underaged and small, a batch kept in tupperware with burnt holes, the other batches in typical trays with make shift fencing as the cover. Haih, poor things.
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OH BTW, soulx, blurjoey+sangels, in Pets lover centre, Ikano got 2 sanko silent wheel 21 cm!!! Heheh, I just went there this evening smile.gif I see only 2 tho... dunno the price cos dont have the tags. I bet they restock the one in Sunway Pyramid as well...

If you wanna the wheel fast, better go check out lor. If can wait, then maybe can bulk order the wodent wheel. I am not buying big wheel as of now, maybe for another few months, all my 3 syrians are still small, the habitrail playground wheel is more than comfortable for them ... for now tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Reanne @ Jan 22 2008, 02:04 AM)
Waa, so much trouble with syrians from pet shops? Went to the pet store area in Pudu market, the syrians there were so underaged and small, a batch kept in tupperware with burnt holes, the other batches in typical trays with make shift fencing as the cover. Haih, poor things.
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Well, I look at it as saving what I can. smile.gif I think if you really love your animals, u will try as hard and be your most patient in training them, hehe. And no point forcing and pushing the taming process, need to respect them lor.. like human also, the more ppl push, the more you wanna b**ch slap them, LMFAO.

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 22 2008, 02:07 AM)
OH BTW, soulx, blurjoey+sangels, in Pets lover centre, Ikano got 2 sanko silent wheel 21 cm!!! Heheh, I just went there this evening smile.gif I see only 2 tho... dunno the price cos dont have the tags. I bet they restock the one in Sunway Pyramid as well...

If you wanna the wheel fast, better go check out lor. If can wait, then maybe can bulk order the wodent wheel. I am not buying big wheel as of now, maybe for another few months, all my 3 syrians are still small, the habitrail playground wheel is more than comfortable for them ... for now tongue.gif


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Well, I look at it as saving what I can. smile.gif I think if you really love your animals, u will try as hard and be your most patient in training them, hehe. And no point forcing and pushing the taming process, need to respect them lor.. like human also, the more ppl push, the more you wanna b**ch slap them, LMFAO.
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Thanks for the info. Anyway I have ordered 2 wodent wheel jr from JTL. Been wanting to get this wodent wheel jr for so long. Going to wait for JTL to get wodent wheels. tongue.gif


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after 1 day, blurjoey declared war against frostfox.. i wanna join you !! rclxm9.gif
but later if i do something wrong.. dont  declare war against me too.. sweat.gif
two person in this thread that i'm scared if i do something wrong is blurjoey and hun.. LOL
very afraid if kena marah.. wink.gif
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Soulx,

I'm not declaring war on anyone here. I just want Frost Fox to answer some of the questions directed to him. But he just asked everyone to chill and left without answering to hide somewhere under a rock.

From his blog I think he is about 17 years old and a prefect of his school. A prefect should know how to be mature and responsibility about things. If he is not matured about things, then I don't know how he managed to be selected to be a prefect in the first place.







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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 22 2008, 02:01 AM)
Tired taming your syrians? tongue.gif I fully trained 3 syrians babies I got from petshop... hehehe. 2 is successfully tamed... 1 is still very stubborn... always think I'm big giant human who will eat him... maybe his personality... oh well... still ongoing taming + the guinea pigs biggrin.gif Mocha is half tamed, at least not running like mad so much when I pick her up or pet her while she eats.. but latte... OMG. Like sprinter only, kalah also jon johnson I think tongue.gif

Keep on handling and playing with ur syrian core_trace. Some is very fast, some takes time. If they angry already, dont push ur luck, respect their wishes, in turn, they will respect you  nod.gif

ps: MoFo is the tamest since he is already half tame when I got him. Now whatever I do he ignore only, lol. I poked him here there, he just dont care anymore, hahaha!
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wow...Mofo really tame....i should work hard for my hamsters too......even their names i cant decide yet tongue.gif
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by the way, guys and gals,

when you all say "tame", can further explain.

I can hold my 2 RC tho they try to get away from my hand.
They will come forward to the cage front when I am approaching.
Even when they are sleeping, they will wake up when I sit and watch.
Is that consider tame?


Edit: One more thing, sometime they like to nip my hand but one in a while they really bite till can see blood. Is tat normal?

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 21 2008, 10:33 PM)
i've been bitten by my housemate's robo 3 times.. never bleed but painful.. after tat dun dare to touch it anymore.. maybe can try wear glove when hold de robo? so tat when it bites not tat painful..
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luckily my robos wont bite me.. 1 day i try to let it bite cos i eat fruits and my finger still got fruits smell. i put into the cage, wanna c whether they'll think tat my finger is a fruit.. haha.. they really try to bite me but not pain la..
yesterday wanna clean their cage, so bring them out n try to play wif them.. i manage to touch them, they r not so scare compare to last time.. but they poo poo a lot when they scare.. hahaha...
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luckily my robos wont bite me.. 1 day i try to let it bite cos i eat fruits and my finger still got fruits smell. i put into the cage, wanna c whether they'll think tat my finger is a fruit.. haha.. they really try to bite me but not pain la..
yesterday wanna clean their cage, so bring them out n try to play wif them.. i manage to touch them, they r not so scare compare to last time.. but they poo poo a lot when they scare.. hahaha...
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lol.. lucky u.. i dun dare to catch a robo anymore again.. there's 1 time i opened it's cage n it jumped out.. i chased it like chasing cockroach.. sweat.gif i think de best hamsters in tis world is winter white.. tame, cute n small.. n unique cos can change color.. haha i'm so proud to have so many ww..

edit: do u think FrostFox is reading all this but dun dare to reply?

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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 22 2008, 10:49 AM)
lol.. lucky u.. i dun dare to catch a robo anymore again.. there's 1 time i opened it's cage n it jumped out.. i chased it like chasing cockroach..  sweat.gif   i think de best hamsters in tis world is winter white.. tame, cute n small.. n unique cos can change color.. haha i'm so proud to have so many ww..

edit: do u think FrostFox is reading all this but dun dare to reply?
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People can read the forums without logins.

It's easy to track him down if I want to...

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QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 22 2008, 10:01 AM)
by the way, guys and gals,

when you all say "tame", can further explain.

I can hold my 2 RC tho they try to get away from my hand.
They will come forward to the cage front when I am approaching.
Even when they are sleeping, they will wake up when I sit and watch.
Is that consider tame?
Edit: One more thing, sometime they like to nip my hand but one in a while they really bite till can see blood. Is tat normal?
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maybe they bite coz your finger have food smell..
for me, tame is that they they dont scare of you...
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breeder celect & corn cob  tongue.gif
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corn cob, which brand??
QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:01 AM)
by the way, guys and gals,

when you all say "tame", can further explain.

I can hold my 2 RC tho they try to get away from my hand.
They will come forward to the cage front when I am approaching.
Even when they are sleeping, they will wake up when I sit and watch.
Is that consider tame?
Edit: One more thing, sometime they like to nip my hand but one in a while they really bite till can see blood. Is tat normal?
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tame for me is:
- i can play with them (no panic)
- plus they will not bite me if they are RC hamsters
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QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 22 2008, 10:01 AM)
by the way, guys and gals,

when you all say "tame", can further explain.

I can hold my 2 RC tho they try to get away from my hand.
They will come forward to the cage front when I am approaching.
Even when they are sleeping, they will wake up when I sit and watch.
Is that consider tame?
Edit: One more thing, sometime they like to nip my hand but one in a while they really bite till can see blood. Is tat normal?
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For me tame are (based on my hamster, each has a degree of tameness):
1. I come near and put my hands in the tanks, the come sniff sniff (not biting) instead of running for their life.
2. When your hands in their cage, they will step onto your palm or at least walking on it instead of running for their life.
3. when u try pick them up, the will not turn their body and try to bit you or run for their life.
4. When u manage to pick them up and onto your palm, they will not fly out of your hands, instead they will explore and sniff sniff. No biting.
5. You yourself is not nervous like hell waiting to be bitten because you know they wont. You can feel their trust in you actually.
6. (this is only MoFo), when you poke poke them they just ignore it or they just try to sniff sniff your finger/hands because they want to be pickup. smile.gif

I never been bitten by any of them. Well, the babies tried before, but I back off when they get agitated and sakit hati with me biggrin.gif I still dont allow my 9 yrs old sister to pick up the rest of the babies, when she came visit, only MoFo is allowed to be pickup by her (under close supervision) because I know MoFo won't bite if he is accidently been roughly handled.

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I feel so much potential in the hamster owners today. Back when I was breeding ppl complained about the price. Now everyone seems to want to grab them. If anyone wants to learn about syrian genetics and about the BHA standards or even start a project on it, don't hesitate to ask. smile.gif

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http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?...928&sec=central

Article in the star about rodents for CNY
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Yerr... So many ppl are going to have mice. Why not rats? They're so much better than mice and hamsters. It's year of the rat after all, not year of the mouse or hamster.

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LOL.... too bad rats are not in demand.... if they are, sure I won't have any available anymore hahahah..... Rats are much nicer than mice.


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huh... i hope i can hold my robos on my hand.. they r scared of my hand, even i put some treats on my hand n let them come, they don come also..

there's 1 thing very weird.. b4 tat they have a ladder to upstairs. B4 tat they r thin so they can go thru the ladder, but now alrd fat, cant go thru n stuck in the middle.. when i saw it i quickly make them out then i close the back of the stairs wif some cardboard. of cos they can still climb it but dono y after 'renovating' their stairs, they don wanna go upstairs anymore. until i take off the cardboard then only they climb upstairs. any reason y?

I cover like tis.. but now take off alrd.. i've used another method to cover the stairs.. hehe
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Not all robos are friendly.... it is their nature to be scared and cautious of everything.

Anyway, you should change your cage into a tank. It is dangerous to keep robos in the cage you are using. Habitrail cage is fine but not the one you are using.

Why they do not climb the ladder when you modify with cardboard is that it is hard to grip while climbing....

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juz wondering...in wild...does WW will attack the injured and bleeding one of WW??
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Yes, they will. If the injured WW is in another WW's territory, the strong one would protect and defend its territory by fighting off another.... it would kill too.

QUOTE(d100200 @ Jan 22 2008, 10:01 AM)
by the way, guys and gals,

when you all say "tame", can further explain.

I can hold my 2 RC tho they try to get away from my hand.
They will come forward to the cage front when I am approaching.
Even when they are sleeping, they will wake up when I sit and watch.
Is that consider tame?
Edit: One more thing, sometime they like to nip my hand but one in a while they really bite till can see blood. Is tat normal?
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RCs from petshops are rarely tame.... they are the best to be in colonies but if you get those that are from petshops, they will bite..... the RCs from breeders do not or can say rarely bite.

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best is stil ww.. won't bite smile.gif

user posted imagepose n smile~ user posted image:folding arms: i rest my case..
user posted image here i come babe.........

aaaaa~ i'm a proud hamster owner! rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif wub.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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why is WW start to attack others even though there are siblings?? juz curious
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Sometimes wws will suddenly not get along with their siblings even though they are the same sex. The exact reason is unknown, but it happens. If one of them gets pregnant and behaves like that, then it's because she's becoming very protective over the place where she will raise her babies. Sometimes it can be due to dominance. That's why we recommend that it's better to keep them alone, if really itchy to get more than one, get single sex pairs, if fight then separate lor.

Come, feel so free, let's share some old time pictures of baby syrians.

Golden, red eyed white, silver grey and blonde.
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Both versions of silver grey, red eyed white and golden.
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Het silver grey, silver grey and golden.
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Eeee... All posing for the camera!
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Sibling squabbles
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Vanilla! SH Black Eyed White, owned by Crazymouse
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May day! May day! Run while you can!
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Feeling cheeky
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Get in the bowl! Everyone!
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Ah! We're all aboard!
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We're bigger now!
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Where's my nose?! My nose!
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LH Black Eyed White
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Oreo! Solid black
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I have a skirt!
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My mama says I look like a horse. My first batch of het silver grey, female.
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Loretta! One of my biggest het silver greys, 6 and a half inch from nose tip to tail.
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this pics of baby syrians is a new batch one ar?
very cute looking syrian.. and very rare too
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too focus on the cute little things..haha

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this pics of baby syrians is a new batch one ar?
very cute looking syrian.. and very rare too..
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Read properly la... Old pictures la... Also there is dates on the pictures that says 2006... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Anyway yesterday Fumoffu bit off the suction cup for the Safari Wheel doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Now he got no wheel to run in... Anywhere to buy back that suction cup? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Reanne, I like the silver greys and whites. Too bad can't these rare colors anymore... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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why is WW start to attack others even though there are siblings?? juz curious
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r they both male? i encountered the same problem before.. this doesnt happen to my female siblings tho.. just separate them..

ps/ can i feed the yolk of hard-boiled-egg to hamster ar? dunno how to make scrambled egg sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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r they both male? i encountered the same problem before.. this doesnt happen to my female siblings tho.. just separate them..

ps/ can i feed the yolk of hard-boiled-egg to hamster ar? dunno how to make scrambled egg sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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well...it happen for both sex..huhuhu..at male part i oledy sperate them coz they fight very ganas one..huhuhu...but at female side i tried to teach them not to fight (bout 2hours i tink sweat.gif sweat.gif ) ..when they wanna start a fight i blow at their face them coz they dont like people to blow at them..n finally its work..they dont fight ne more thumbup.gif

last time i tried to feed them with scrambled n oso hard boiled but seem dat my WW and robo dont like them much and end up wasting it sweat.gif

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wowwww...so cute......

yesterday my creamy one just pee on my hand,haha
now im a bit phobia to touch her, sweat.gif
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wowwww...so cute......

yesterday my creamy one just pee on my hand,haha
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Pee only you already phobia to touch her? If poo then how? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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^^" I only feed boiled eggs to my hamsters when one of them give birth. Then only they will eat. otherwise they don't enjoy it much... And they don't like the yolk lar. They always only eat the egg white.

My robos climb onto my hand. They will jump off and climb back and jump off and climb back. Seem to be their favourite game. But they take food from my fingers la. It's so cute when it stands up and takes the food with its hands. Sometimes my female likes to nip my fingers, not hard hard lar. Just softly but i think she just likes to. She nips and climbs on my hand. Very much like a habit.Consider tame a not ar?
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 23 2008, 11:54 AM)
Pee only you already phobia to touch her? If poo then how? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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its ok if poo bcoz its in solid state......but pee is in liquid....
so far three people had been the victims including me,haha

maybe i need to let her grow a little more? hmm.gif
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oo.. i tot the yolk will be too sticky n stuck in the mouth so i ask first tongue.gif

i kena my hamster pee before too.. he shoot it on my shirt sweat.gif
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I hard boil it lar, so not "sticky" or anything. They don't touch the yolk... Wasted I tell you...
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wowwww...so cute......

yesterday my creamy one just pee on my hand,haha
now im a bit phobia to touch her, sweat.gif
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seldom hamster will pee on hand..normally poo only.. tongue.gif

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Helo guys! Just pop in to greet you all! I'll be having my 1st hamster soon. Hehehe
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nice baby syrians there, Reanna.
any update?

gosh! my sis will ask me to buy this if she ever come here....
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its ok if poo bcoz its in solid state......but pee is in liquid....
so far three people had been the victims including me,haha

maybe i need to let her grow a little more? hmm.gif
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But I read somewhere sometimes they peed cos they are scared... ? Hmm... if she peed on you cos she's scared, no point waiting her to grow bit more... you should continue handling her and get her used to that idea smile.gif Pee only lah... hehehe.
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I've been peed and pooed by a sugar glider at the petshop, hahha. None of my babies peed or pooed on me before... (phew).
But I read somewhere sometimes they peed cos they are scared... ? Hmm... if she peed on you cos she's scared, no point waiting her to grow bit more... you should continue handling her and get her used to that idea smile.gif Pee only lah... hehehe.
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FrostFox,

If you think hiding from this thread you can get away from it? Then you are wrong, what others and I here need just the facts of your pets. Not just the wrong story you accidently said.

And I'll say again, I will remove the banner when you come in here to tell/explain to us the facts. Not stories.

I can see that you are active in other threads in LY.net. It's not hard to track you. If I want, I can go to each threads that you have posted and post there and everyone will see the banner but I'm not that kind of person.

Your friendster & your email was the easiest. You know why? Because it is in your blog!!! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Please grow up and be mature about this. Hiding is not going to help with anything.

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Lol,blurjoey u are so serious about this?how about make reanne handle him?haha

BTW,im enjoying ur determination/work in 'teaching' him,lol
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Lol,blurjoey u are so serious about this?how about make reanne handle him?haha

BTW,im enjoying ur determination/work in 'teaching' him,lol
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I'm not going to get anyone into this.

I'm not teaching him anything. Just want him to learn himself and tell people the facts.

Anyway say hi to FrostFox, he is reading but he is scared to post here.

Hey FrostFox! There is nothing to be afraid here if you are just telling the truth. I'm not going to come and bite you. Maybe Fumoffu will bite. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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^^" I have no idea what's going on. What's with frostfox? Ya he still posts in LYN.

Congratulations xsnail! wat kind of hamster? Hamsters are joy wrapped in a small packaged. You can't help but fall in love with them.
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^^" I have no idea what's going on. What's with frostfox? Ya he still posts in LYN.

Congratulations xsnail! wat kind of hamster? Hamsters are joy wrapped in a small packaged. You can't help but fall in love with them.
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^^" I have no idea what's going on. What's with frostfox? Ya he still posts in LYN.

Congratulations xsnail! wat kind of hamster? Hamsters are joy wrapped in a small packaged. You can't help but fall in love with them.
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Just read V6 from page 1 and you will know. All there.
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Wah, he is horrible... how can he not know the species of his hamster? Each hamster has slightly different necessities, so how do you provide the best care without knowing its species?? Poor Sinclair.... She is so pretty! =.=" I feel angered when he called her "thingy". Proves he doesn't think of her more than a thing? Poor poor Sinclair...

Robos live for four years?? Some sites tell me they live an average of 2.5 years? My oldest one only lived up to a lil past 3 years... And I thought that was some record. He passed away last month. smile.gif I miss him a lot.

This is his picture before he passed away.

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Reanne, just wondering, in normal cinnamon banded syrian, is there other colour genes? such cream, black, sable or umbro? just curious.. and is there possibility from banded syrian to produce solid colour syrian?
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The cinnamon gene is a set of recessive genes. It is possible that the hamster may carry other recessive genes. Yes, you can breed it out, you will need a solid partner. By doing that you can find out if your cinnamon banded's banded gene is het or homo. Is the banded gene is dominant, you will not know whether it is homozygous or heterozygous, unless you see the parents and it's siblings.
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ahhh.. it's like learning biology again..
is there any source that i can read from about syrians genes and traits ?
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but it's not because i want to breed, just to have more understanding about my hamster.. smile.gif

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my hamster just passed away this morning.... tumour growth... I tried what I can already, keep bringing him to see vet, feed him various foods when he's so weak until cannot bite seeds, still love him as he is although the growth caused his right eye to pop out from the socket...

he died in the vet clinic while doc was trying to remove his growth...

he's only been with me for 9 months.... I miss him... I hope he's happy in heaven now... at least he no longer suffers now...
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may he rest in peace......
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May he rest in peace... He must surely know your good intentions before he left. He knows you love him lar. smile.gif Plus the nine months with you must have been good lo.
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hi guys...

my hamster is worrying me..
there's something like.."bengkak" on his hind leg... like.. bulging out.. dunno wadz wrong it her..... like pregnant like tat.. but i dont think she's pregnant cuz i only keep her 1 roborovskii oni....

Whatz wrong with her? sad.gif
Im being so worried.... izzit a lump?? the Growth thingy like viviensiu's hamster??
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Huh... It sounds like she sprained or dislocated her leg. Does your cage have very tall setups she can fall from? I've had many robos but no case like this wor. Then again nothing in my setup is taller than 4 inches other than the wheel. Is she moving ok? Got picture? And what wheel are you using? The ones with gaps in between? Maybe her leg got caught in between. Robos are very tiny after all.

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Huh... It sounds like she sprained or dislocated her leg. Does your cage have very tall setups she can fall from? I've had many robos but no case like this wor. Then again nothing in my setup is taller than 4 inches other than the wheel. Is she moving ok? Got picture? And what wheel are you using? The ones with gaps in between? Maybe her leg got caught in between. Robos are very tiny after all.
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She's running in the wheel fine... but when she walk.. like a bit "tempang tempang" like tat... cry.gif

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Here's some pic.... Can u see the bulge? on the left leg part there....
She's running in the wheel fine... but when she walk.. like a bit "tempang tempang" like tat...  cry.gif

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Please weave the wheel with a cardboard paper / manila card. It can even hurt syrians, let alone small robos. As you know, hamsters love the wheels and they will run like crazy inside it. Wrong step and the legs can get into the holes while it's spinning fast... unsure.gif I can't get myself to imagine, it's horror! Hmm... anyway, maybe u should take out the wheel for a while until the leg heals. Constant use of that leg will worsen the condition, I think?

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Wah... Looks painful. I think its leg really got caught in the wheel. Can you imagine, the wheel is spinning very quickly, then suddenly one leg accidentally got caught in 1 of the bars. Then it cannot pull its leg out instantly + the speed of the wheel rolling... It'll be like wrenching the leg out of its sockets with lotsa force...

Cannot be sure la but if it's sprained leg, I dunno if it applies, but one of my GP got its leg caught in the grill before and sorta sprained her leg. The vet advised me to take out any items that can cause her to exercise (like stairs to second level, or putting the food dish and water bottle too far away or in your case the wheel). If possible, put her in a smaller place so she can't do anything but rest. Using the leg too much will make the healing difficult.

So just make her so boring that all she can do is sleep. My robos just sleep when they're bored. My GP's leg healed in about a week la, and results can be seen in a couple of days.

If the situation doesn't get better maybe you should bring to a vet? Though I'm not sure what a vet can do for such a small hamster...

Consider changing your wheel so it won't happen again. The price of a wheel can let your robo be risk free of this kinda situation o...

good luck and I hope she gets better ya?

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Here's some pic.... Can u see the bulge? on the left leg part there....
She's running in the wheel fine... but when she walk.. like a bit "tempang tempang" like tat...  cry.gif

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I think your hammy sprained it's leg when running in the wheel. You need to take the wheel out and let the leg heal itself. I think its the wheel that caused the sprain. You might need to consider changing the wheel to those without bars.
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i got put hard magazine paper to cover the big gaps in the wheel since the first day i got her. i oso dont know why will become like tat.. as u can see in the picture below.. it was taken on the same time as the rest of the pictures i posted.

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Juz let it heal by itself? Do I need to take it to the vet? sad.gif
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i got put hard magazine paper to cover the big gaps in the wheel since the first day i got her. i oso dont know why will become like tat.. as u can see in the picture below.. it was taken on the same time as the rest of the pictures i posted.

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Maybe you can get a wheel without holes. From the picture, it looks like the leg can still get stuck. A good quality wheel would be the 6.5inch Silent Spinner smile.gif
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change another wheel bah..even u bring to vet..they cant help by doing surgery..they are too small..

it even hard for me to cut their nails..they are fast & small rclxub.gif
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hey all.. the curve got petshop not ar?

ps/waa.. dun cut nail lar.. even my ww oso i dun dare, in case cut wrongly..

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hey all.. the curve got petshop not ar?

ps/waa.. dun cut nail lar.. even my ww oso i dun dare, in case cut wrongly..
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I dont think The Curve got.. u walk to Ikano Power Centre (IKEA) there..
Got one Pet Shop at the 3rd Floor i think~ Called Pet Safari.. quite huge =)
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 24 2008, 08:04 PM)
hey all.. the curve got petshop not ar?

ps/waa.. dun cut nail lar.. even my ww oso i dun dare, in case cut wrongly..
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ikano got..curve nop..

but their nails are too long not good for them..but i dint cut also..cause scared will accidently cut something extra off tongue.gif
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Don't need to cut, provide lots of bedding for them to dig, it will wear down naturally, unless it's really really long.
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QUOTE(jayniel @ Jan 24 2008, 08:04 PM)
hey all.. the curve got petshop not ar?

ps/waa.. dun cut nail lar.. even my ww oso i dun dare, in case cut wrongly..
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The Curve there got pet stall during the flea market. Have to search through all the stalls and there will be a stall selling hamster, GP, scorpions, SG, etc...
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 24 2008, 09:42 PM)
The Curve there got pet stall during the flea market. Have to search through all the stalls and there will be a stall selling hamster, GP, scorpions, SG, etc...
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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 24 2008, 09:42 PM)
The Curve there got pet stall during the flea market. Have to search through all the stalls and there will be a stall selling hamster, GP, scorpions, SG, etc...
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when did u saw it?date?
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when did u saw it?date?
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It's a weekend flea market... Daytime lor...
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What exactly do they sell in this flea market? Would like to go visit but I am working on weekends sad.gif
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just came back from ikea.. the pet safari hamsters r fed with only oats wor.. very smelly oso.. but is indeed very huge!
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QUOTE(jtl @ Jan 24 2008, 11:46 PM)
What exactly do they sell in this flea market? Would like to go visit but I am working on weekends sad.gif
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Roughly everything you can think of... Women accessories, clothings, shoes, Coca-cola bottles & can, etc...
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Roughly everything you can think of... Women accessories, clothings, shoes, Coca-cola bottles & can, etc...
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issit there every weekend..few weeks back i dint notice any pet shop at there..
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yeah.. i dont notice any pet stalls oso when i went few weeks back.. a few times adi i went..
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 25 2008, 12:41 AM)
issit there every weekend..few weeks back i dint notice any pet shop at there..
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yeah.. i dont notice any pet stalls oso when i went few weeks back.. a few times adi i went..
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Oh, what I meant was: What exactly do they sell at the pet store at the flea market? tongue.gif
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Hm... That time we were there, they were selling WW or RC, GP, SG, turtles, scorpions, tanks (mostly kuaci), pet food, and bedding. I think there were hedgehogs also.
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wat do u mean by dangerous to keep my robo in cage? cos even though i keep in cage but i also cover the lower part with cardboards as like how i cover the ladder. so i think it's somehow same like a habitrail.

i'll buy another habitrail when my robo get pregnant~ hehe..


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QUOTE(jamince @ Jan 25 2008, 02:51 PM)
crazymouse,

wat do u mean by dangerous to keep my robo in cage? cos even though i keep in cage but i also cover the lower part with cardboards as like how i cover the ladder. so i think it's somehow same like a habitrail.

i'll buy another habitrail when my robo get pregnant~ hehe..
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 25 2008, 04:50 PM)
So rich buy another habitrail, if i were you, i just buy 2ft. tank, nicer =)
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but i saw somebody selling a habitrail for like RM30 - 40, it's not expensif though~
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post Jan 25 2008, 05:55 PM

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hmm... I bought my Habitrail Playground from Petsmore at RM67.
But you need to have their member card lar~
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post Jan 25 2008, 05:56 PM

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Question : my hammy gave birth. (yay!) but the babies are spread all over the tank. one in the tube. another near water bottle. another at another corner. spotted 3 so far, unknown total number. *yes yes, i look at the babies within less than 24 hrs.*

so is this baby relocation business normal for hammies?
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post Jan 25 2008, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 25 2008, 05:56 PM)
Question : my hammy gave birth. (yay!) but the babies are spread all over the tank. one in the tube. another near water bottle. another at another corner. spotted 3 so far, unknown total number. *yes yes, i look at the babies within less than 24 hrs.*

so is this baby relocation business normal for hammies?
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I'm not really a master in hamsters caring... but I think babies should be in one place, in the nest with the mom.
I read if you find the babies all over, take a spoon, rub it in the bedding so that the spoon imitate the surrounding smell, scoop the babies and put back in the nest. DO NOT touch the babies with your hands, it will get eaten by the mom when she didn't recognised them anymore. I hope you do this fast, cos they can get cold easily and die sad.gif

Good luck with the babies.


Added on January 25, 2008, 6:06 pm
QUOTE(jtl @ Jan 25 2008, 01:13 PM)
Oh ok. Thanks. Will drop by if I have the time
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They are usually at the rows infront of cineleisure. If not on the right side, on the left side. It's just a stall... and they have syrians and dwarfs for sale usually. I've only seen once they sell suggies and scorpions. Most of the times only the hamsters. They also have beddings and food available. But not a lot of choice, food is the own mix variety... and the beddings are the pine bedding.

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post Jan 25 2008, 06:07 PM

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err hrmm........ can't tell which is the nest la cos my hammy has resting place all over the place. smile.gif

ok now i only see 1 baby, 2 donno hidden where already. no blood so look like no cannibalism yet.......... well, hope not.

those in tube, can't touch la. too hard. just don't want the mama hammy to be spooked and end up being cannibal.
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QUOTE(jamince @ Jan 25 2008, 05:50 PM)
but i saw somebody selling a habitrail for like RM30 - 40, it's not expensif though~
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WTF THATS CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!! IN KUCHING 70++

gratz goldfries! Front page got way to handle pups
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 25 2008, 05:56 PM)
Question : my hammy gave birth. (yay!) but the babies are spread all over the tank. one in the tube. another near water bottle. another at another corner. spotted 3 so far, unknown total number. *yes yes, i look at the babies within less than 24 hrs.*

so is this baby relocation business normal for hammies?
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last time i got a little house inside the cage, the hamster mother will normally pick them back to the house when those babies walking around. do u put a house inside the cage? is good to have a house inside the cage when they give birth to babies, so that when all babies inside the house the mum will feel safe n won't eat them. please dun touch them bcoz ur hammy will leave different smell on babies so the mum will thought or they are enemies then will eat them up.
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post Jan 25 2008, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 25 2008, 06:11 PM)
gratz goldfries! Front page got way to handle pups


thanks. smile.gif btw i won't be asking if front page can answer my Qs already.

QUOTE(SandyPiggy @ Jan 25 2008, 06:20 PM)
last time i got a little house inside the cage, the hamster mother will normally pick them back to the house when those babies walking around. do u put a house inside the cage? is good to have a house inside the cage when they give birth to babies, so that when all babies inside the house the mum will feel safe n won't eat them. please dun touch them bcoz ur hammy will leave different smell on babies so the mum will thought or they are enemies then will eat them up.
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yeah la i know i'm not supposed to touch them. smile.gif

btw my tank no house la. just tubes, tissue, tissue rolls (doesn't that sound like a toilet?) and hay. of course bedding too la.

well nmind, i observe them first.
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post Jan 25 2008, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 25 2008, 05:56 PM)
Question : my hammy gave birth. (yay!) but the babies are spread all over the tank. one in the tube. another near water bottle. another at another corner. spotted 3 so far, unknown total number. *yes yes, i look at the babies within less than 24 hrs.*

so is this baby relocation business normal for hammies?
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tis is normal when the hamster just given birth.. mine did the same last time.. but when i look at them after 2-3 hrs, the babies r all in 1 place already.. the mum will noe wher is 'home' so, i suggest u leave it to de mum to handle smile.gif

i also noticed the mum will shit on the baby when she give birth.. maybe is to 'mark' her babies.. hamsters so smart la.. rclxms.gif

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post Jan 25 2008, 07:15 PM

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Yes just leave it to mummy. When she's ready she'll go all over the place looking and picking up her babies and putting it back to the nest. That's what mine does anyway.
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post Jan 25 2008, 09:24 PM

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I just use a cloth to cover the cage. No distraction from outside world. But sometimes I noticed my mommy hamster like to step over the babies.
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post Jan 25 2008, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Jan 25 2008, 09:24 PM)
I just use a cloth to cover the cage. No distraction from outside world. But sometimes I noticed my mommy hamster like to step over the babies.
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no problem the mom wont kill them by stepping over them.. thumbup.gif

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