AGREED!!! the ones in brickfield and petaling street are also like that. I always have to hold my breath.

can we train our hamsters to sit on our shoulder? I saw in movie they can, hehe. I wanna train MoFo but he is so jakun when i let him out, go here and there exploring

Miki nipped me just now, hehe cos I hold him too long and don't want to put him down . I think he is a cream banded satin, his hair bit bit shiny like that?

Hehehe, I never go to smelly petshop more than once. One time go, if already smelly and I need to hold my breath, I dont go anymore.
I like pet shop hopping, just check out if got interesting stuff for my pets. Bad habit actually, cos I end up buying things I dont really need, just because only.

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Added on January 9, 2008, 1:56 amDont use! It is pine bedding and crazymouse already adviced me last time when I first got hamster Now I use the corncob + delikate.
But I agree when I used it for a while it covers the pee smell very good... but that's because of that dangerous phenol thing that can lead to lungs problem to our hamsters la.

This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 9 2008, 01:56 AM

Hmm true. Everywhere also got sell that one actually. ok lar if can change..

I think Jtl is petshack owner

Anyway this is MoFo's latest pics. Took it when we hang out on my bed watching TV.

Ghostly Mofo


Wassup yo! Mofo

Heheh, I am very sure they are siblings... I also last time dunno which one to pick... but I picked mofo because of the 3 dots at his back Also because he has bicolor eyes, hehe.

The hamsters at petshack is tame... half tame maybe because still cautious with new smell. But they are tame compared to other syrians I've seen, they allow u to be picked up. THANK GOD Mofo never bite me I think u kacau montee sleep la soulx. Or ur hand smell delicious, after eating nasi bungkus, haha!
One thing I always do with Mofo is to put my hand in the tanks first... touch2 him abit before I picked him up. They are very blind... sudden move will scared the hell out of them. My mission now is to train him to sit on shoulder . I hope he could also lie dead on his back when I hold him flat face up. So cute I see a lot of hamsters here can do that.

My taming process is taking a long time with the rest of the babies. All are still half tame. I also take things very slow cos I don't wanna push my luck and got bitten, hehe. They can play on my hand, I used the scoop with toilet roll or exercise ball method to transfer them to my palm. It takes a while also for them to step onto my palm, sniff here and there first, like shud I, shudn't I? I tried picking Mokie and Miki by hand before, I can only do half way before they fly from my hands, hehe. (I also scared to grip harder... if got bitten painful leh). Mobee... curious lil fella but so eksyen one, he avoids my hand like a plague.

@blurjoey
Yeah.. that's what my mom told me too. Same like my hamsters, dont sleep at nite, hahah. I wish I am fully nocturnal, but I need to wake up go to work haha! same like hamsters also, grumpy when ppl kacau me sleep

Oh, maybe fumoffu bite cos he can smell jack jack? A lot of methods can be used for taming, like familiarise him with ur smell. Rub ur hands in his bedding before pick him up. Always come to him with nice treats so that he knows when u come means food. Now I realised I never go to my hamsters empty handed, sure got something for them, even just to pass one sunflower seed (or 2, or 3.. hehe). I think MoFo tolerate me because I'm his walking giant with nice treats, hahaha! He thinks biting me will bring him more harm than good, hahahaha!

@crazymouse
Yeah, not clear... only take with handphone, somemore camera lousy, in the dark pic not so good
The only reason I can take his pic on the bed is because he was mesmerized by the flash hahaha. Suddenly keep quiet look at the camera If not he's busy exploring my bed and me, funny fatso.

Hmmm... I think u shud. At least you can monitor the water intake closely. With bottles, the water is not contaminated with other stuff like food, beddings etc.
Easier to change or refill water too But that's my preference lah.

Here is Miki latest pics! He's pretty tame now, we just made a breakthrough last nite! He stepped onto my palm volunteerily!!! Yeay!
But I have a Q to sifus:

1. Why Miki is more 'mouse' look than my other syrians? He has bigger ears too... I hope he is not cross-breed or something
2. Is it normal for syrian to have a longer body? I see the rest of my syrians have rounded and stokier body. Miki body is longer and slim
3. Miki smell the worst! only MoFo doesn't smell actually Maybe I shud try breeder celect too... is it good for covering smell?

Ahhhh... yeah now I understand why he looked so different from MoFo, Mokie and Mobee. They are all round round shape and short. Miki is long long slim with hmmm extra huge balls

I will buy breeder celect lah like this. Time to do supply stocking anyway. By the way, buy the dried alfafa also good for covering smell and also good for their digestive and teeth! My syrians love it especially mofo cos he used it for nesting too. It also smells very nice like fresh tea/ herbs. And the best thing is, it's CHEAPER than timothy hay lor. I bought it at an aquarium shop in uptown, galaxy aquarium I think. I dont know if other place sell la.. only know there cos that petshop guy adviced me to feed it to my hamsters.



Wah, cannot leh leave ur pets in the car! I done it too but only if it's nightime and i opened the window for sure. I try not to do it tho... if i feel it's too hot even at nite (you can feel the heat urself), I will bring along. During the day when it's hot of course they die. Even a covered carpark also so hot during the day... u can even kill a baby if u leave inside hot car... let alone small tiny hamsters. I hope you learned your lesson well lor... maybe buy that travel cage thing so that you could always bring them out, I've seen some nice ones... one I saw in pets lover center in singapore... nearly bought it cos i didnt see it in malaysia.. it's sanko brand.

Oh, u can also check uptown night market at kota damansara... one stall sells this tank, come with string like handbag, so u can carry it on your shoulder. inside got water bottle, wheel and food bowl too! Cheap also, last time i ask it's RM30.

This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 12 2008, 03:29 AM

bought timothy hair for my hamsters, sanko too expensive so I bought kool bunny brand. I chose the fresh greens one because it's better right? But I realised they dont like to eat them as much as they like the dried alfafa but timothy hay can be given to hamsters right?

Yippie! Another breakthrough with my syrian babies! FINALLY, Mokie and Miki is fully tamed. They can be picked up like MoFo and not running from my hands anymore. So happy, my patience paid off and I was never once bitten!! Hehehe... as a noobie I would say RESPECT is the keyword. Don't push your luck and if they don't like it, they don't like... just try again another day!

The only frustrating thing for me now is Mobee. He takes treats from my hand, lemme stroke/pet him when he eats BUT I still need the toilet roll to transfer him to my palm. Once he came out to my palm, he will fly off!! I always do this over his tank so he landed safely back in... I can't pick him up without him looking back and showed his teeth. He never bit me yet, I backed off before he had the chance He also treat my hand like a ghost, runs for his life everytime I came near (too near he will look back and bare his teeth ).

Maybe I should just be patient for a little longer. He is the smallest and I do think he is a runt in the litter. So small... maybe that's why he is forever scared and skittish.

Anyone has non successful experience in taming their hamster? I really want Mobee to turned out like Mokie and Miki... they are so much fun to play with now

Hmm, 3 of my syrians are all babies and wild when I got them... I spend 1 hr (divided into few sessions) with each of them per day without failed (except that 2 nights I was gone to Singapore). That is why I am nocturnal too I cant do like you and put on my bed yet... first need to train them that when u pick them up, they are not about to be eaten, hahaha. Only mobee is now half tame... I so wish he'll get over the fact he will not be in my mouth when I pick him up.. sigh.

But Mokie and Miki are so fun to play with now! All my patience paid off

Crazymouse said syrian don't do sand bath... but yeah u can try of course. Only Mofo doesnt smell! The 3 babies... smelly!!! I don't know why too... but I have a feeling it could be the 1.5feet tank I use. Only Mofo in 2feet tank... i think the bigger the space, the less the odour...? I am not upgrading their tank until they are fully grown so for now... I just need to bear with their smell and wash their house and wheels often... they peed inside it ALL THE TIMES. Sigh.

Habitrail Safari wheel and playground wheel can be used for syrians. They are 7.5 inch.
MoFo can run inside, the backs did not arch but just muat muat only. That extra 0.5 inch does make a difference...
Mofo can't fit well in the normal wheel (like the one in my siggy picture with Miki). Now that wheel is a spare for the 3 babies.
Except for MoFo, the rest are using habitrail playground wheel. One day I will need to change for all of them, maybe 3-4 months down the road but for now, it works perfectly for them.

I bought the sanko 21cm wheel in singapore, here don't have stock yet. They only have the 17cm and the humongous 30cm. So hard to find good wheels here lah... so the most decent you can use is the habitrail wheels.

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Added on January 15, 2008, 4:27 pmI think it's natural instinct that small confined space is a place to sleep and store food. I think u better change venue to the proper bathing place (or ceramic bowl) and put in their main area. Anyway, it's a den sure they use it as a den lorrrrr... I cant remember if yours is syrian or dwarfs... if syrian, u dont need a bathing sand, just do like blurjoey lor... put them in a small tank filled with bathing sand while u do the cage cleaning

This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 15 2008, 04:27 PM

Wodent is good and make sure you get Wodent Wheel Junior, measuring at 7 3/4 inch. They have 3, Junior, Senior and Wobust.
Senior measurement is 10 7/8 inch and Wobust is 12 inch. You can try the senior wheel but maybe it's a tad too big.

Here the website you can see the price: http://www.sugar-gliders.com/wodent-wheel-jr.htm

Welcome enferno! Share the pics soon!

BTW, bought meself 2 GP Here's a pic and stories in GP thread



This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 16 2008, 05:20 AM

Down there is MoFo he is pigging out, he should be a GP lol. That bowl is the 'dog it' bowl, medium size, when he sits in there, cannot see his food anymore, hahaha.
Mokie is the one upstairs he's big now too.. they grow so fasttttt!

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Added on January 17, 2008, 12:57 amHehehe... yes, my house like rodent zoo already. I really need to take care of the smell cos i stay in a studio no where to run from the smell, hahaha! The platform, first i put double sided, the one for the ikea mirror, I thought it'll be strong enough... but then it wasn't , so when my friend came buy help me drill the holes for the water bottle, i asked to drill and fasten the platform with screw, but I also put the screw filler, wood type. It looks ugly from that side the double sided cannot peel off, and a screw with wood filler potruding at the outside, hahahahah! Mokie knows how to climb on top of that hood and go out if the lid is open now he still can reach and bite the plastic lid, once he's bigger, i need to take off that blue hood already leh. If he grows as big as MoFo, need to change tank alreadddyy...

This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 17 2008, 12:59 AM

Yeah i know now he still cannot but he will soon. I'll take out the hood first, he's still too short without the blue hood. But when he's big like MoFo, time to take it down (or change tank )

Hmm maybe genetics? The smell I mean? Only MoFo doesnt stink and I clean his tank only once in 2 weeks! The rest of the syrians, GOD HELP! I saw some tablets/liquid to put in water so that it doesnt smell. Dont know if that will work.

Bought the 1 feet tank and bath sands... put the syrians in... they just sniff2 and look stupid inside there and then busy want to get out what i did is i put some sand on their back and rub it in did the same with the GP But they eat the sand, is it hazardous? I faster take them out after i saw it, but i know they ate some also.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT? haiyakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! No wonder they ignore