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post Jun 28 2019, 05:48 PM, updated 7y ago

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Previous Kitchen Cabinet threads (V1, V2 and V3) are linked below

V1 : Kitchen Cabinet v1

V2 : Kitchen Cabinet v2

V3 :Kitchen Cabinet V3


Kitchen Cabinet Materials
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And SOLID WOOD of course, courtesy of ar188

Kitchen Layouts by Qanvast (Check out which ones suit you)
Some kitchen layout ideas from RoomSketcher



Quick question - anyone using ALUMINIUM kitchen cabinets?

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post Jun 28 2019, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(raul88 @ Jun 26 2019, 11:02 PM)
Does all hood and hob has standard size for installation?
Cos im planning to buy hood and hob first when there is sale

Later on after settle plaster ceiling and grille
Then i will hire a kithcen cabinet contractor
But I scared got different size and therefore affected the installation and incur extra charges as its not safe like their spec for installation
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it is not standard size. only hood is rather standard size.

hob have to depends on the opening. otherwise, u complete ur kitchen cabinet first. and later on only ask ppl open for u. but be aware that if open hole for quartz/marble those causes alot of dust.

if induction cooker, plz pull another wiring for it. my in laws house plug melt out due to using sharing wiring with others and induction cooker.



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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Jun 28 2019, 05:48 PM)
Previous Kitchen Cabinet threads (V1, V2 and V3) are linked below

V1 : Kitchen Cabinet v1

V2 : Kitchen Cabinet v2

V3 :Kitchen Cabinet V3
Kitchen Cabinet Materials
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Kitchen Layout (Check out which ones suit you)

Quick question - anyone using ALUMINIUM kitchen cabinets?
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time to add one more material to the list. Solid wood panels.
why? or else how to justify 50k kitchens made out of budget aluminum frame/ACP panel combo or rm200 plywood or rm100 blockboards? biggrin.gif


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and many more, like white oak, eucylptus, walnut etc. biggrin.gif
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Congrat on the new thread.

My new KC will be end of this year. Nothing fancy. This time will be low cost as possible.
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post Jul 1 2019, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jul 1 2019, 10:46 AM)
Congrat on the new thread.

My new KC will be end of this year. Nothing fancy. This time will be low cost as possible.
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What material are you going with - aluminium?
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Any recommendations for reliable n cheao shop for kitchen cabinet using nyatoh & top granite

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post Jul 1 2019, 07:03 PM

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I was quoted more less same price from two different companies.. one quote for 4g material another is solid nyatoh.. when I ask they said not so much different btwn 4g & solid nyatoh..

My question is, which lasts longer? Really noob about KC.. hope someone can help me.. thanks in advance
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post Jul 1 2019, 10:28 PM

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I'm getting Alluminium for my kitchen as well...
RM1K for top&bottom+quartz top/per ft..is it resonable?
BTW, it is 4g material...
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QUOTE(Nobodywannabe @ Jul 1 2019, 07:03 PM)
I was quoted more less same price from two different companies.. one quote for 4g material another is solid nyatoh.. when I ask they said not so much different btwn 4g & solid nyatoh..

My question is, which lasts longer? Really noob about KC.. hope someone can help me.. thanks in advance
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Hmmm….

Theoretically, glass bottles takes longer to decompose in a landfield than wooden chair. Glass & aluminium are termite resistant.

4G: Contemporary/ Modern design, some 4G have wood behind the frame, glass is heavy and the glass is at risk of cracking/ chipping (best to get soft close hinge).

Solid wood: Classic design, can install accessories onto the frame itself (drilling/ nail), can paint in the future to remodel it, warping of wood due to humidity.

What cabinet carcass are you planning? Wood? Concrete?
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post Jul 8 2019, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Jul 3 2019, 04:41 PM)
Hmmm….

Theoretically, glass bottles takes longer to decompose in a landfield than wooden chair. Glass & aluminium are termite resistant.

4G: Contemporary/ Modern design, some 4G have wood behind the frame, glass is heavy and the glass is at risk of cracking/ chipping (best to get soft close hinge).

Solid wood: Classic design, can install accessories onto the frame itself (drilling/ nail), can paint in the future to remodel it, warping of wood due to humidity.

What cabinet carcass are you planning? Wood? Concrete?
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Thanks for replying I really appreciates it.. just simple wood for carcass.. base is concrete..
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Hardboard ABS ok for carcass & door?

That's my only option if not enough budget for aluminium.. sad.gif
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post Jul 10 2019, 06:55 PM

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I'm planning to DIY my wall kitchen cabinet. For ikea frame it's quite easy as it come with railing but how other installer hung the cabinet other than ikea? Screwed directly to the wall?
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QUOTE(mrkudin @ Jul 10 2019, 06:55 PM)
I'm planning to DIY my wall kitchen cabinet. For ikea frame it's quite easy as it come with railing but how other installer hung the cabinet other than ikea? Screwed directly to the wall?
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Yes it will be screwed in with a cabinet hanging screw.
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post Jul 11 2019, 02:44 PM

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Yes it will be screwed in with a cabinet hanging screw.
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Thanks for that ;-)
So that means normal cabinet carcass (other than ikea) have thicker board at the back? as for ikea cabinet the back is just a thin of plywood
Any picture of cabinet hanging screw?
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 11 2019, 11:52 AM)
Yes it will be screwed in with a cabinet hanging screw.
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You mean using a sleeve anchor?
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QUOTE(mrkudin @ Jul 11 2019, 02:44 PM)
Thanks for that ;-)
So that means normal cabinet carcass (other than ikea) have thicker board at the back? as for ikea cabinet the back is just a thin of plywood
Any picture of cabinet hanging screw?
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Normal cabinets are not mounted by the back board, it is mounted using a cross member or one of the support structure.

IKEA cabinets on the other hand are mounted using a L-bracket that clips and locks onto the rail, the L-bracket is mounted on the side of the carcass not on the plywood backboard.

However one key difference with IKEA cabinets is the backboard actually plays a crucial role in keeping the carcass in shape.

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You mean using a sleeve anchor?
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 11 2019, 03:39 PM)
Normal cabinets are not mounted by the back board, it is mounted using a cross member or one of the support structure.

IKEA cabinets on the other hand are mounted using a L-bracket that clips and locks onto the rail, the L-bracket is mounted on the side of the carcass not on the plywood backboard.

However one key difference with IKEA cabinets is the backboard actually plays a crucial role in keeping the carcass in shape.
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Thanks again for you explanation.
But can you further elaborate this point
"Normal cabinets are not mounted by the back board, it is mounted using a cross member or one of the support structure."
What is cross member?
Any picture or link for me to refer.. Sorry noob request here
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Hi sifus, need your help here.

I am considering either custom made cabinets that were recommended from my contractor or IKEA kitchen cabinets. I bought a subsale house and the previous owner has installed some cabinets in the wet kitchen area. Correct me if i am wrong, Ikea kitchen cabinets are not customisable and I am afraid that the Ikea cabinets will not fit the current kitchen once my contractor has dismantled the current table top and old cabinets.
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QUOTE(mrkudin @ Jul 11 2019, 03:53 PM)
Thanks again for you explanation.
But can you further elaborate this point
"Normal cabinets are not mounted by the back board, it is mounted using a cross member or one of the support structure."
What is cross member?
Any picture or link for me to refer.. Sorry noob request here
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The crossmember where it is attached to the wall is at the part where it is labelled 1/4" plywood back, 1 x 6 nail cleat.

It is basically a piece of the frame that is made from a stronger wood to hold the entire weight of the cabinet to the wall.
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QUOTE(ryanwong92 @ Jul 11 2019, 10:43 PM)
Hi sifus, need your help here.

I am considering either custom made cabinets that were recommended from my contractor or IKEA kitchen cabinets. I bought a subsale house and the previous owner has installed some cabinets in the wet kitchen area. Correct me if i am wrong, Ikea kitchen cabinets are not customisable and I am afraid that the Ikea cabinets will not fit the current kitchen once my contractor has dismantled the current table top and old cabinets.
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IKEA cabinets are modular cabinets therefore you can't customise the carcass or doors.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 11 2019, 11:21 PM)
IKEA cabinets are modular cabinets therefore you can't customise the carcass or doors.
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Sorry but what is a modular cabinet? If I buy the Ikea cabinets and if it doesn't fit, can they refund? What can I do to prevent this from happening?
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QUOTE(ryanwong92 @ Jul 11 2019, 11:26 PM)
Sorry but what is a modular cabinet? If I buy the Ikea cabinets and if it doesn't fit, can they refund? What can I do to prevent this from happening?
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Modular means it is like a Lego , you can build and add on to it for as long as you stick to what they have.

You can buy cabinets that are 20, 40, 60 and 80 cm widths as well as some corner configuration.

If the space of your kitchen is 2.4m then you can fill up the wall with any configuration using the sizes of cabinets they offer.

You can return any kits that hasn't been assembled.
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Hi Guys,

My max budget is RM4000. I need a full kitchen cabinet with built in hob and hood. For my new apartment.

Please help me suggest some good kitchen cabinet companies or groups. With their promo and packages.




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anyone here using IKEA kitchen cabinet? Want to ask regarding gas tank location, where do you store your gas tank ya? the design draft I got from IKEA staff gave me a 40cm shelf unit beside the hob, BUT I came home to measure my petronas gas tank the width is at 46cm, definitely won't fit, how do you guys solve it ya?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jul 15 2019, 12:21 AM)
anyone here using IKEA kitchen cabinet? Want to ask regarding gas tank location, where do you store your gas tank ya? the design draft I got from IKEA staff gave me a 40cm shelf unit beside the hob, BUT I came home to measure my petronas gas tank the width is at 46cm, definitely won't fit, how do you guys solve it ya?
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why not opt for 60cm wide carcass?
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QUOTE(monodevil @ Jul 15 2019, 12:48 AM)
why not opt for 60cm wide carcass?
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oh yeaa :x could've done that. sacrifice a bit of width on the other side, thanks!


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BTW just to share experience for IKEA quotation vs Signature Kitchen + Rowenda.

for the exact same things (with minor differences) but same measurement, rowenda quoted 26k, signature quoted 35k (after "discount"), IKEA quoted 17k (+3k for installation or free if DIY).

and IKEA also uses imported blum hinges + dampeners from Austria
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jul 15 2019, 01:21 AM)
BTW just to share experience for IKEA quotation vs Signature Kitchen + Rowenda.

for the exact same things (with minor differences) but same measurement, rowenda quoted 26k, signature quoted 35k (after "discount"), IKEA quoted 17k (+3k for installation or free if DIY).

and IKEA also uses imported blum hinges + dampeners from Austria
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wow i wonder what goes in to a 35k sig kitchen offer?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jul 15 2019, 01:21 AM)
BTW just to share experience for IKEA quotation vs Signature Kitchen + Rowenda.

for the exact same things (with minor differences) but same measurement, rowenda quoted 26k, signature quoted 35k (after "discount"), IKEA quoted 17k (+3k for installation or free if DIY).

and IKEA also uses imported blum hinges + dampeners from Austria
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Did the cabinet quotes given consist of similar materials for countertop and cabinet frame/ carcass? Any accessories?
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jul 15 2019, 01:21 AM)
BTW just to share experience for IKEA quotation vs Signature Kitchen + Rowenda.

for the exact same things (with minor differences) but same measurement, rowenda quoted 26k, signature quoted 35k (after "discount"), IKEA quoted 17k (+3k for installation or free if DIY).

and IKEA also uses imported blum hinges + dampeners from Austria
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Yo bro. I also in the midst of getting ikea KC. Mine total for top is 10ft and bottom 20 feet (mixture of L shape n I shape) around 9k± without installation (been told by ikea own stuff i can DIY it, the hardest part is just to install the rail. N make sure its atraight)

Whats your counter top choice? Quartz series from ikea is at expensive side right
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Hello all sifu, sijeh,

I came across one of you mentioned about Honsénz Kitchen Group but they are located in Seremban. I already submitted my inquiry, but
has anyone came across other KC that use the same material or provide the same solution as them (anti termites and water proof) around Klang Valley area?

Why squeezeboard (PVC + Chalkboard) is recommended for kitchen cabinet and walltop building as it need to support heavy weight items ah.. no? unsure.gif I wonder it will have durability problem in the long run or not..

Any info/other KC recommendations is much appreciated notworthy.gif TQTQ


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Hi sifus,

I would like to seek opinion about my kitchen kabinet quotation. I get quoted for 14.2k for my dry and wet kitchen. Is it reasonable?

Kabinet material : fomica
Table top wet kitchen : solid surface
Table top bar for dry kitchen : quartz stone
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QUOTE(veron4best @ Jun 28 2019, 05:53 PM)
it is not standard size. only hood is rather standard size.

hob have to depends on the opening. otherwise, u complete ur kitchen cabinet first. and later on only ask ppl open for u. but be aware that if open hole for quartz/marble those causes alot of dust.

if induction cooker, plz pull another wiring for it. my in laws house plug melt out due to using sharing wiring with others and induction cooker.
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Hi. I'm planning to get ikea KC. Since people mention that ikea KC is modular, will there be any problem if i bought kitchen hob with non standard size? is ikea KC can be customized to fit in any type and size of kitchen hob?

Also, do people usually purchase kitchen hob and set before installing KC or is it ok to install KC first and later decide what kitchen hob to buy?
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QUOTE(lel @ Jul 30 2019, 10:21 PM)
Hi. I'm planning to get ikea KC.

Also, do people usually purchase kitchen hob and set before installing KC or is it ok to install KC first and later decide what kitchen hob to buy?
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I think its better to choose your kitchen hob or have a clue on what you are planning to get when you buy your kitchen cabinet. Options are range cooker, built in hob and non built in stove. If using gas hob, you will also need to choose where to place your gas tank. If using electrical hob, you might need to arrange electrical wiring.

The back up option will be to use a non built in stove top. Just to note... ikea kitchen cabinets are 90cm standard height so it will be quite tall if you put a stove on top of it.
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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Jul 30 2019, 07:10 PM)
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Hi sifus,

I would like to seek opinion about my kitchen kabinet quotation. I get quoted for 14.2k for my dry and wet kitchen. Is it reasonable?

Kabinet material : fomica
Table top wet kitchen : solid surface
Table top bar for dry kitchen : quartz stone
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Why waste money to redo the wet and dry kitchen top? Just add in the cabinet under the existing top can already.

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Why waste money to redo the wet and dry kitchen top? Just add in the cabinet under the existing top can already.
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Hmm... Seems like an addition on storage space, countertop space and improve ventilation.

a) Add in the cabinet under the existing tile concrete countertop.

b) Add in an extra countertop (bout 5.5 ft solid surface) & wall cabinets (bout 7.5 feet) at the wet kitchen so it is L shape.

If use existing countertop at the wet kitchen for the stove or built in hob, few issues...
1. Won't be able to wall mount a kitchen hood (need a kitchen island hood)
2. It is in front of a window strong wind? fire risk?
3. Cramp space & work flow disruption. Already used to the stove being at that area. Moving will reduce countertop space that could disrupt work flow.

c) And add in a peninsula/ bar at the dry kitchen so it is L shape also.

d) Installation of a hood.

It's good to have more countertop space. .. smile.gif
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 2 2019, 01:49 PM)
Why waste money to redo the wet and dry kitchen top? Just add in the cabinet under the existing top can already.
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Hi ,
Thanks for the reply but i think you get misunderstood
1. For wet kitchen with existing tiles table top i’ll just add fomica cabinet. Additional solid surface table top added as per drawing for kitchen hob area. It will be merge with existing table top.
2. Dry kitchen also still using existing tiles table top. Just additional bar counter will be added with quartz tabletop.
3. At the bar table top one lighting point will be added
4. One bottle drawer, dish rack, spoon / utensil organizer at wet kitchen and one dish rack given at dry kitchen.
5. kitchen cabinet height till ceiling.

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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Aug 2 2019, 07:28 PM)
Hmm... Seems like an addition on storage space, countertop space and improve ventilation.

a) Add in the cabinet under the existing tile concrete countertop.

b) Add in an extra countertop (bout 5.5 ft solid surface) & wall cabinets (bout 7.5 feet)  at the wet kitchen so it is L shape.

If use existing countertop at the wet kitchen for the stove or built in hob, few issues...
1. Won't be able to wall mount a kitchen hood (need a kitchen island hood) 
2. It is in front of a window strong wind? fire risk?
3. Cramp space & work flow disruption. Already used to the stove being at that area. Moving will reduce countertop space that could disrupt work flow.

c) And add in a peninsula/ bar at the dry kitchen so it is L shape also.

d) Installation of a hood.

It's good to have more countertop space. .. smile.gif
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. You’re absolutely right. Can you give opinion about the price. I’ve survey for about >5 places :

1. Price quoted 8.9 k without any accessories/no 3d given/old school design shown.
2. 9.65k with accessories/no 3d design/unable to do electrical modification
3. 13k with accessories/with 3d design/modern design/hardly negotiable/no light point modification
4.14.2k with accessories/with 3d design/modern design/light point modification/easy negotiable and convincing/have own factory and establish





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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Aug 2 2019, 08:42 PM)
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. You’re absolutely right. Can you give opinion about the price. I’ve survey for about >5 places :

1. Price quoted 8.9 k without any accessories/no 3d given/old school design shown.
2. 9.65k with accessories/no 3d design/unable to do electrical modification
3. 13k with accessories/with 3d design/modern design/hardly negotiable/no light point modification
4.14.2k with accessories/with 3d design/modern design/light point modification/easy negotiable and convincing/have own factory and establish
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what is the purple item? island table? size and top material is what? (include in this 14.2k price?)
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Can i know what is the concrete tabletop price now?

I get an quotation with RM200 per feet run. (inclusive of tile installation workmanship but exclude tile).

Is it expensive in Klang valley area?
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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Aug 2 2019, 08:42 PM)
Hi,

Thanks for the reply. You’re absolutely right. Can you give opinion about the price. I’ve survey for about >5 places :

1. Price quoted 8.9 k without any accessories/no 3d given/old school design shown.
2. 9.65k with accessories/no 3d design/unable to do electrical modification
3. 13k with accessories/with 3d design/modern design/hardly negotiable/no light point modification
4.14.2k with accessories/with 3d design/modern design/light point modification/easy negotiable and convincing/have own factory and establish
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Errr... Better let those who are in the wood works/ construction line comment on that. They might need more details e.g. measurements. After I choosing the kitchen cabinet company, my contractor checked the price with me and his estimation was quite accurate.

I've also gotten several quotes just like you and chose it based on my requirements. My requirements seem really different from yours.

Sorry, not been any help... But all the best! smile.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 5 2019, 09:28 AM)
what is the purple item? island table? size and top material is what? (include in this 14.2k price?)
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Hi.. the purple item is additional bar counter. It will merge with existing table top. So become L-shape design. Price included in 14.2k

Material for top : quartz stone
Size : 6 ft
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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Aug 5 2019, 03:28 PM)
Errr... Better let those who are in the wood works/ construction line comment on that. They might need more details e.g. measurements. After I choosing the kitchen cabinet company, my contractor checked the price with me and his estimation was quite accurate.

I've also gotten several quotes just like you and chose it based on my requirements. My requirements seem really different from yours.

Sorry, not been any help...  But all the best!  smile.gif
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I see. What are your requirements when choosing kc? Mind share.. maybe i missed anything. Tqvm 🙂

Rough measurement :

Wet kitchen
1. Bottom cabinet at wall area: 5ft
2. Top cabinet : 7 feet
3. Bottom cabinet at window area : 11.5 ft
Dry kitchen
1. Top cabinet : 9ft
2. Bottom cabinet : 9ft
3. Bar counter 6 ft

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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Aug 5 2019, 08:22 PM)
I see. What are your requirements when choosing kc? Mind share.. maybe i missed anything. Tqvm 🙂

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I've visited Chan Kitchen showroom just now.

Although havent got measurement for my unit, but the provided package for 8ft base & wall unit, with glass acrylic door panel, solid surface top = ~rm4.3k

Good price ? The carcass are melamine hardboard, I think should be no issue last for 5-10 years ?
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wow i wonder what goes in to a 35k sig kitchen offer?
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Signature Kitchen is like that one, recycle design, ask biasa biasa apek cabinet makers to construct, pasang, letak nama, naik harga 300%. Because my fren ambil from signature kitchen and with that quality at that price... bangwall.gif

BTW, what happened to the RM100+k teak wood kitchen cabinet by that rich lady ooo...
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I was thinking to get a base from Ikea cabinets done and then only get a stone top (probably from those stone top suppliers in Sg Buloh or sth). Is it feasible to mount? I think it should not be a big issue to mount using little L brackets or sth rite?

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QUOTE(ijan @ Aug 23 2019, 08:47 AM)
Signature Kitchen is like that one, recycle design, ask biasa biasa apek cabinet makers to construct, pasang, letak nama, naik harga 300%. Because my fren ambil from signature kitchen and with that quality at that price... bangwall.gif

BTW, what happened to the RM100+k teak wood kitchen cabinet by that rich lady ooo...
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yea, priced on the high end side kitchens.


wah you follow her thread? probably busy renovating i guess. biggrin.gif
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i dunno where her thread is anymore, i thought you ada update because...well..its 100+k haha
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My experience so far (and also my dilemma), I wanted a timeless/classical kitchen with marble like top :

- signature kitchen: modern look, melamine door with country fitting and spray paint, not customisable =Rm40k
- unity kitchen: with spray paint on solid nyatoh wood =RM38k
- Intech kitchen: solid nyatoh white colour door, fully customisable= Rm40k with lots of customisation but no so nice marble quartz top.

Both 3 are similar price. To my surprise signature kitchen also quote me similar price but with their melamine door and also not very customisable island. Intech kitchen is really good with customisation and also use solid wood. Unity is sitting in between.

the costs reflect their “popularity” or reputation, their showroom also give you the “trustworthy” look and I hardly hear any bad comment about SK. However I like the Intech kitchen as their staff really knowledgeable and also can customise to what I want. Unity is like ditto gin between where they are semi customisable and also using solid wood.

Howeeee
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I was thinking to get a base from Ikea cabinets done and then only get a stone top (probably from those stone top suppliers in Sg Buloh or sth). Is it feasible to mount? I think it should not be a big issue to mount using little L brackets or sth rite?
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Should be doable. im planning for ikea KC + quartz / granite table top. The quartz supplier just ask to add a layer of playwood (2-5mm thick). maybe the supplier will add on something more to reinforce it.

btw, also i asked ikea staff (kc section), their carcass may hold about 30kg of load per carcass (base)
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Guys aaa, just wondering, how much are you guys quoted per foot run (PFR) for lower cabinet, and wall cabinet.

And also, with/without top, or with laminated otp/quartz top

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1. Anyone know the quality and workmanship of Apresi aluminum KC? I must say it has quite a hefty price tag per ft rn. All advices are very much appreciated.

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2. Looking for a supplier of marble / granite that offers good quality workmanship and reasonable pricing? Marble / granite for counter-tops and flooring. Anywhere to look?

Thanks sifus

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I installed aluminium woodgrain cabinets from Avenue Kitchen Puchong last year, and for me it was a thoroughly unpleasant experience.

They were very efficient in the pre-installation process, but sorely lacking during the installation and post-installation process.

My bad experience with them can be summed up as follows:

1. Subcontractors (ie installers and plumbers) not turning up on time or at all and showing up without an appointment;

2. Subcontractors were not briefed as to what I wanted;

3. Materials were not delivered in a timely fashion (resulting in the installer's and my time being wasted waiting for them to arrive before the installation works could commence)

4. Subpar workmanship and quality for the works - my powder coating was badly finished at multiple places and their solution was to take back the doors for repainting (which took 3 weeks), leaving me without properly fitted cabinet doors!

5. Despite minimal use and within less than a year after it was installed, a knob fell off because the screw used to fasten it was too short. And the other knobs have also loosened which we suspect is also attributable to the screw length issue and/or improper installation.

In hindsight, I wish I had had the wisdom to negotiate for a longer warranty period and more favourable payment terms.



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Hi... Just want to share my new kc project for my 2nd house. My 1st house kc I've already post at V3 thread where the kc is english style in turquoise color. Here's the current condition at the kitchen area:

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Top would be quartz stone with concrete base. Cabinet would be solid wood. Hood, hob and oven I'll be using fotile as I've purchased at builders hardware with their designer sink. I'll post later when the kc is finished around 1 month. Design still using english style but maybe in grey color...
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Anybody got experience with Alloy Kitchen? Know the quality and normal price for about 8ft kitchen cabinet?
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time to add one more material to the list. Solid wood panels.
why? or else how to justify 50k kitchens made out of budget aluminum frame/ACP panel combo or rm200 plywood or rm100 blockboards?  biggrin.gif
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pine

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red oak

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nyatoh

and many more, like white oak, eucylptus, walnut etc. biggrin.gif
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Hye sifus. Getting my new house around dec this year. Need some advices. Do i need to build kitchen cabinet asap or should i wait until inspect the house 1st. I m first home buyer really lost in rather what to do 1st.

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Hye sifus. Getting my new house around dec this year. Need some advices. Do i need to build kitchen cabinet asap or should i wait until inspect the house 1st. I m first home buyer really lost in rather what to do 1st.
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hi.. i am not sure.. biggrin.gif inspect first i guess.
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Hye sifus. Getting my new house around dec this year. Need some advices. Do i need to build kitchen cabinet asap or should i wait until inspect the house 1st. I m first home buyer really lost in rather what to do 1st.
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Wait until you inspect your house first. Some rectification works might need to be done by developer after checks.

It is easier to visualize your kitchen layout and ensure it is functional when you are in that space.

But if you have the house plan, can start visiting kitchen cabinet companies for ideas on design, layout and shortlist them (find out the waiting time).

Also need to decide whether you are planning to get a contractor, cabinet company or interior designer for the house...

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 27 2019, 09:57 PM)
hi.. i am not sure.. biggrin.gif inspect first i guess.
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I see thanks alot for your advices. ☺

QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Sep 27 2019, 10:31 PM)
Wait until you inspect your house first. Some rectification works might need to be done by developer after checks.

It is easier to visualize your kitchen layout and ensure it is functional when you are in that space.

But if you have the house plan, can start visiting kitchen cabinet companies for ideas on design, layout and shortlist them (find out the waiting time).

Also need to decide whether you are planning to get a contractor, cabinet company or interior designer for the house...
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Okay if everything settle and check okayed by the contractor
Then can straight arrange for KC lar? Different from contractor cabinet company and interior design compared by what ya. Sorry noob question

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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Sep 27 2019, 10:37 PM)
I see thanks alot for your advices. ☺
Okay if everything settle and check okayed by the contractor
Then can straight arrange for KC lar? Different from contractor cabinet company and interior design compared by what ya. Sorry noob question
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Yes, if checks done and you are happy with it. Can arrange for KC if you don't have any plans of doing extra wet works/ extensions/ first fix plumbing/ first fix electrical wiring/ tiles installation/ plaster ceiling.

Difference between them...

Interior designer designs it and will manage/ coordinate everyone including contractor and kitchen cabinet co.
Contractor will get wet works subcontractor, electrician, cabinet subcontractor, tiles installer. Sometimes you can also opt to select your own cabinet company.
Interior designer vs contractor. This sums it up...
https://says.com/my/lifestyle/id-vs-contrac...do-up-your-home
https://www.recommend.my/blog/interior-desi...r-or-contactor/

Cabinet company/ Cabinet designer design the kitchen cabinet only & wardrobes but if concrete countertop required they will arrange it if you don't have a contractor/ interior designer
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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Oct 4 2019, 01:09 AM)
Yes, if checks done and you are happy with it. Can arrange for KC if you don't have any plans of doing extra wet works/ extensions/ first fix plumbing/ first fix electrical wiring/ tiles installation/ plaster ceiling. 

Difference between them...

Interior designer designs it and will manage/ coordinate everyone including contractor and kitchen cabinet co.
Contractor will get wet works subcontractor, electrician, cabinet subcontractor, tiles installer. Sometimes you can also opt to select your own cabinet company.
Interior designer vs contractor. This sums it up...
https://says.com/my/lifestyle/id-vs-contrac...do-up-your-home
https://www.recommend.my/blog/interior-desi...r-or-contactor/

Cabinet company/ Cabinet designer design the kitchen cabinet only & wardrobes but if concrete countertop required they will arrange it if you don't have a contractor/ interior designer
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That answer alot of my question. I m on the lighter side on the budget.. In ur opinion is it okay if i only do countertop and below cabinet and later on upgrade? Cause the kitchen area is kinda big. Around 12*10 ft.
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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Oct 5 2019, 09:01 PM)
That answer alot of my question. I m on the lighter side on the budget.. In ur opinion is it okay if i only do countertop and below cabinet and later on upgrade? Cause the kitchen area is kinda big. Around 12*10 ft.
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Yeah. Good to stick to your budget. Basic kitchen is fine as long as it does the job…able to store and prepare healthy tasty food. smile.gif

Tall units (build in cabinets from floor to ceiling) can be quite costly but useful for storage. In the meantime can use simple metal shelf… lots of ideas in pinterest.

If you are planning to upgrade later, bear that in mind when planning your kitchen layout so won’t waste money, material and effort later on. And better to make it future proof…
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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Oct 8 2019, 05:28 PM)
Yeah. Good to stick to your budget. Basic kitchen is fine as long as it does the job…able to store and prepare healthy tasty food.  smile.gif

Tall units (build in cabinets from floor to ceiling) can be quite costly but useful for storage. In the meantime can use simple metal shelf… lots of ideas in pinterest.

If you are planning to upgrade later, bear that in mind when planning your kitchen layout so won’t waste money, material and effort later on. And better to make it future proof…
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Thanks for insighful advice. Going to survey kc company and some contractor. Any1 want to quote for me. Tqs.
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Just sharing my completed KC to fellow forumers.. 😁

- Material : Kabinet Fomica / Quartz top
(Existing tiles top)
- Price : <15k (exclude electrical appliances)

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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Oct 10 2019, 08:05 PM)
Just sharing my completed KC to fellow forumers.. 😁

- Material : Kabinet Fomica / Quartz top
(Existing tiles top)
- Price : <15k (exclude electrical appliances)

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Nice! thumbup.gif The before and after looks so different...
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Nice!  thumbup.gif The before and after looks so different...
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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Sep 27 2019, 11:44 AM)
Hye sifus. Getting my new house around dec this year. Need some advices. Do i need to build kitchen cabinet asap or should i wait until inspect the house 1st. I m first home buyer really lost in rather what to do 1st.
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Most of the time, if you are buying new build property, after you getting the key, you will still need a time to checking on the house defect, then fill up the form to ask for rectify, and until they done the rectify, usually also taking about a months time, so if you have more free time then you can look around for quotation, but that quotation will not really mean anything because that only estimation, then after you getting a key on the defect time, you still need to bring over some contractor to do measurement so that you able to get official and accurate quote with the actual measurement.
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I decided to go with Intech KC at Semenyih. Hopefully it’s good.
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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Oct 10 2019, 08:05 PM)
Just sharing my completed KC to fellow forumers.. 😁

- Material : Kabinet Fomica / Quartz top
(Existing tiles top)
- Price : <15k (exclude electrical appliances)

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what is the length of both base and wall cabinets?
The price sounds like a great deal!
From which company?
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It's good.
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As DIYer, what is standard base kitchen cabinet depth?
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As DIYer, what is standard base kitchen cabinet depth?
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I would expect you want many measurements instead of depth only.
Perhaps, you can refer to Ikea Metod series for such info.
For example, Ikea base cabinet depth is 60cm meanwhile worktop is 63.5cm.
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About 2 ft.

Mine
Side panel 60.5cm
My carcass less than 60.5cm (theres a 3cm gap between wall and back of carcass)
Countertop 61.5cm (made to measure after the wood works was done)
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Not impress with the design and location of the tap and power point
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Hi Guys, any contractor can recommend with good price?

I'm from Subang Jaya, looking to do small renovation for kitchen top.

Thanks
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After surveying for well over a month for kitchen cabinet (over 20 shops), I’ve made a top 3 with a price range between RM9-12k for melamine carcass with either 4G or acrylic door.

But I still couldn’t make my mind up as wanted to do some research on Google, Facebook and Instagram.

Then on Sunday I came across a straight from factory type of kitchen cabinet maker on Instagram. He said he has no showroom, it’s straight from the factory hence the price is much lower.

He quoted me RM6.5k wiring and hacking included
Factory is in Shah Alam.

Would this be reliable? Or is this a case of too good to be true?

For the kitchen top, he’ll give me quartz but I prefer to source the quartz myself so that I feel assured of the quality.

But how about the kitchen cabinet? Usually people use melamine. Could it be possible that he uses an even lower quality material? Is there such a thing?

Many thanks in advance

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QUOTE(kaynofx @ Sep 21 2019, 10:14 PM)
Hi all sifus,

2. Looking for a supplier of marble / granite that offers good quality workmanship and reasonable pricing? Marble / granite for counter-tops and flooring. Anywhere to look?

Thanks sifus
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Oct 21 2019, 10:31 AM)
Hi Guys, any contractor can recommend with good price?

I'm from Subang Jaya, looking to do small renovation for kitchen top.

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My max budget is RM4000. I need a full kitchen cabinet with built in hob and hood. For my new apartment.

Please help me suggest some good kitchen cabinet companies or groups. With their promo and packages.
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QUOTE(barca96 @ Oct 22 2019, 04:38 PM)
After surveying for well over a month for kitchen cabinet (over 20 shops), I’ve made a top 3 with a price range between RM9-12k for melamine carcass with either 4G or acrylic door.

But I still couldn’t make my mind up as wanted to do some research on Google, Facebook and Instagram.

Then on Sunday I came across a straight from factory type of kitchen cabinet maker on Instagram. He said he has no showroom, it’s straight from the factory hence the price is much lower.

He quoted me RM6.5k wiring and hacking included
Factory is in Shah Alam.

Would this be reliable? Or is this a case of too good to be true?

For the kitchen top, he’ll give me quartz but I prefer to source the quartz myself so that I feel assured of the quality.

But how about the kitchen cabinet? Usually people use melamine. Could it be possible that he uses an even lower quality material? Is there such a thing?

Many thanks in advance
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Visit the factory? And look at the materials?

Mine was also direct from a factory, no showroom, reasonably priced compared to those with showrooms but based on friend's recommendation... I visited the factory, looked at the materials and check on the flexibility of being custom made (discussion with the sales person/ designer in the office above the factory) so I went ahead.

One benefit getting it direct from factory is custom made cabinets so you can actually design it yourself. E.g. Show them something on pinterest and they can make it...
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Hello sifus, can you recommend 10" saw blade that cut melamine/laminate chipboard adn where to buy? My jobsite saw blade chipping out my melamine chipboard.
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Hello sifus, can you recommend 10" saw blade that cut melamine/laminate chipboard adn where to buy? My jobsite saw blade chipping out my melamine chipboard.
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Usually a higher tooth count for the blade will have a smoother cut. However, with chipboard may also need to use masking tape to prevent the tearout.
Most brands of saw from manufacturer come with low tooth count cos it can cut fast but work not so tidy.
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10 years ago I did my KC and wardrobe at Welco (the cheapest range), and they are quite ok for its price. May I know is there any recent experience with them? Are they still providing reasonably good quality at budget price?

Thanks

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Oct 16 2019, 11:57 PM)
what is the length of both base and wall cabinets?
The price sounds like a great deal!
From which company?
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Thankss !! 🙂 For dry kitchen 9ft , wet kitchen 11.5 + 5 ft.. i think i posted full measurement in this thread before. 😁

Lings Home base in Perak. 😬

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Is there any cabinet contractor able to do minor job... Just internal shelves... Area kota damansara... Please PM me.. Or sms 011-5288-2858
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Hi sifu...any comments for Unity Kitchen finishing?
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I didn’t use them but did get a quotation from them on cabinet work. To me they are ok from quality standpoint but price is on the high side compared to others unless you are competing with Signature Kitchen.


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I didn’t use them but did get a quotation from them on cabinet work. To me they are ok from quality standpoint but price is on the high side compared to others unless you are competing with Signature Kitchen.
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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Oct 23 2019, 01:18 PM)
Visit the factory? And look at the materials?

Mine was also direct from a factory, no showroom, reasonably priced compared to those with showrooms but based on friend's recommendation... I visited the factory, looked at the materials and check on the flexibility of being custom made (discussion with the sales person/ designer in the office above the factory) so I went ahead.

One benefit getting it direct from factory is custom made cabinets so you can actually design it yourself. E.g. Show them something on pinterest and they can make it...
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How much usually for 8x8ft with quartz top?
You do aluminium carcass too?
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You should read this thread to get some names. My old house used Signature kitchen. It was nice but expensive. For my new house I am using a subcontractor that is cheaper but the work is currently in progress and I can't tell definitely on the quality but I am using Blum hinges and Silestone countertop.

You can check out Legend Kitchen, Welco, Alloy, etc to get free quote and compare with with Unity or even Signature kitchen. In the end you should think more on the materials used and less on the brand of the cabinet company
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Anyone here using nyatoh for their kitchen cabinet doors? How much difference in price (per foot run) compare to melamine or 3G/4G?
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Has anyone used aluminium powder coated for their KC carcass before? If limited budget were a factor, is it a better option than Melamine?
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Has anyone used aluminium powder coated for their KC carcass before? If limited budget were a factor, is it a better option than Melamine?
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You must be joking right? Melamine is the cheapest solution and people going for melamine because of limited budget
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 10 2019, 05:20 PM)
You must be joking right? Melamine is the cheapest solution and people going for melamine because of limited budget
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What I meant is other materials aside (due to the limited budget) which one would be better, melamine or aluminium powder coated carcass? I've been quoted similar pricing for these two materials to be used as carcass.

So far I haven't found out much about aluminium powder coated carcass hence this post.
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Anyone here using nyatoh for their kitchen cabinet doors? How much difference in price (per foot run) compare to melamine or 3G/4G?
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nyatoh is about 2-3x more expansive than melamine, nyatoh door will have hairline cracks if not properly dry.
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Nov 12 2019, 10:13 AM)
nyatoh is about 2-3x more expansive than melamine, nyatoh door will have hairline cracks if not properly dry.
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That’s expensive sweat.gif

My budget is only 30k for whole carpentry works including wardrobe & shoe rack. Hopefully i don’t have to top up much for nyatoh door. Otherwise i have to forgo my “shaker style” kitchen cabinet. cry.gif
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I am planning for a small kitchen renovation.How can I improve my small kitchen? please give some suggestion! confused.gif
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I am planning for a small kitchen renovation.How can I improve my small kitchen? please give some suggestion! :confused:
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Extend the kitchen laugh.gif Seriously.

My new kitchen is small too. So i planned to move some walls to make it bigger.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 12 2019, 10:47 AM)
That’s expensive sweat.gif

My budget is only 30k for whole carpentry works including wardrobe & shoe rack. Hopefully i don’t have to top up much for nyatoh door. Otherwise i have to forgo my “shaker style” kitchen cabinet. cry.gif
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Depending on how big your cabinets, wardrobe and shoe rack. A nyatoh shoe rack is already closed to 3k for me. If you have a double storey house this is definitely not enough even for nyatoh doors.

Don't forget good hinges and trays and others cost money too. Countertop can varies greatly. To be honest I rather spend my money on those than having melamine carcass and nyatoh doors
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I am planning for a small kitchen renovation.How can I improve my small kitchen? please give some suggestion! :confused:
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This is too general to provide any useful comments. First need to set your budget. A 2k budget vs 20k vs 200k budget are different. You may think 200k is ridiculous but my last kitchen extension was 100k and it wasn't even everything state of the art!

Then you have to decide what is your main activities in your kitchen. After which you know how big and what design your kitchen should be. For example how often you cook; do you plan to have drinking water there? Do you bake? Etc etc

Go to pinterest and get different ideas. Is your kitchen open or segregated? Dry and wet combined? What look ... Country, contemporary or what? Functional vs look?




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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 12 2019, 06:25 PM)
Depending on how big your cabinets, wardrobe and shoe rack. A nyatoh shoe rack is already closed to 3k for me. If you have a double storey house this is definitely not enough even for nyatoh doors.

Don't forget good hinges and trays and others cost money too. Countertop can varies greatly. To be honest I rather spend my money on those than having melamine carcass and nyatoh doors
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Not everything nyatoh. Kitchen cabinet only. The rest i can live with melamine.

From my rough calculation should be around 21ft of base and 10ft of top. And 6ft of tall unit for side by side fridge, convection and microwave oven. I would settle for quartz counter top but i do want good hinges and other mechanism.

And 22ft of wardrobe (over 4 room of course sweat.gif)

Possible?
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 12 2019, 06:39 PM)
Not everything nyatoh. Kitchen cabinet only. The rest i can live with melamine.

From my rough calculation should be around 21ft of base and 10ft of top. And 6ft of tall unit for side by side fridge, convection and microwave oven. I would settle for quartz counter top but i do want good hinges and other mechanism.

And 22ft of wardrobe (over 4 room of course sweat.gif)

Possible?
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Lol. It will be challenging. My shoe rack and simple built in nyatoh work table (9' long) already almost 9k.

Your kitchen Nyatoh cabinet carcass will be the most costly if your shelves are the same. Perhaps you can only do carcass and doors but that will still be expensive!

Shoe rack can be cheap if you buy online ... Some can be only a few hundred bucks but most are ugly. Need to look hard. Your wardrobe if custom built also not going to cheap even melamine. A few thousand here and a few thousand there your 30k is gone.

No harm you ask the cabinet guy to quote both melamine and nyatoh. My suspicion is that may be possible only nyatoh door or carcass but not both for your budget.
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 12 2019, 06:48 PM)
Lol. It will be challenging. My shoe rack and simple built in nyatoh work table (9' long) already almost 9k.

Your kitchen Nyatoh cabinet carcass will be the most costly if your shelves are the same. Perhaps you can only do carcass and doors but that will still be expensive!

Shoe rack can be cheap if you buy online ... Some can be only a few hundred bucks but most are ugly. Need to look hard. Your wardrobe if custom built also not going to cheap even melamine. A few thousand here and a few thousand there your 30k is gone.

No harm you ask the cabinet guy to quote both melamine and nyatoh. My suspicion is that may be possible only nyatoh door or carcass but not both for your budget.
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Yes. My target is only nyatoh door. Not everything nyatoh. Carcass i can live with melamine, maybe aluminium at sink area. Melamine carcass is good enough from my experience living in current house with Melamine KC of over 10 years.

Built in shoe rack is a must though. Melamine would be fine. As long as it could last at least 10 years.
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Nyatoh from unity kitchen is similar price to Signature kitchen hi dense melamine door! And Intech Nyatoh is cheaper then Unity. So bottom line-> get a few quotes to compare. I got the quotes from these 3 and in the end goes with Intech. Paid deposit now waiting impatiently.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Nov 9 2019, 09:55 PM)
How much usually for 8x8ft with quartz top?
You do aluminium carcass too?
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Sorry, I have no idea.
You will need to get quotes from different kitchen cabinet manufacturers/ showroom and compare...
I did that when I renovated my kitchen recently. And mine is blockboard and plywood carcass with the exception of the drawer being chipboard...

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QUOTE(jadejacob @ Nov 12 2019, 05:02 PM)
I am planning for a small kitchen renovation.How can I improve my small kitchen? please give some suggestion! confused.gif
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Hmmm.... Might need to be more specific on 'improving the small kitchen'. E.g. increase countertop space? storage space? looks out of date so need an updated look? upgrade appliances e.g. switch to induction/ use build in oven? improve work flow?

Best to identify your current issues in your kitchen, needs vs wants and list what's important for you.
And also how extensive you would like to upgrade/ renovate your kitchen. Wet works is really messy if you are living on site during renovation... And also your budget.

To get an idea.. check out pinterest or visit neighbours house who recently renovated or even iproperty (property around your area with same house plan) to see what others are doing...
Another one I found useful is to go on youtube to look at kitchen tour for those based in Spore(HDB), HK (some their kitchen are pretty small). They really maximize the space and organize it well...

I blogged about my kitchen reno and designing it (bottom part of the webpage). It's more about the function generally than looks... https://myglasgowkitchen.com/kitchen-reveal/

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After reading, seems like a small kitchen reno requires a whole lot of money and thought process
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After reading, seems like a small kitchen reno requires a whole lot of money and thought process
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Nothing in renovation is simple. If you go cheap then less thought can be put in as less regret later!

But if you want one that support your lifestyle and activities then you need to think hard what do you want. For my current renovation I listed down every area and every rooms requirements. Design based on those requirements.

Color of the paint, countertop material, smart switches and color of the switches, led size shape lumen, normal socket vs eubiq, total power for each area, curtain vs blind and type, water filter indoor and outdoor, garbage disposal, granite vs stainless steel sinks, taps, etc etc

If you don't want to have regrets better plan down to last details. FYI the arrangement and layout of my switches I won't let my electrician simply install 🤣
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Anyone have experience with Chan Kitchen Furniture?
https://chankitchen.com.my/

I not sure the Chan Kitchen mentioned at V3 which is located at LDP is same as this Chan Kitchen Furniture or not.
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QUOTE(christ14 @ Nov 13 2019, 06:40 AM)
After reading, seems like a small kitchen reno requires a whole lot of money and thought process
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Actually if you are quite 'cincai' or hardly use the kitchen, can go along with the cabinet designers suggestion or contractor's suggestion. They will do it the way they assume it suits you and is easy for them. It works for some people. Adaptation...

You can choose what to save on and what to spend to stay within budget. So I did go cheap on certain items with acceptable quality (to me). smile.gif

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QUOTE(glasgowkitchen @ Nov 13 2019, 03:19 PM)
Actually if you are quite 'cincai' or hardly use the kitchen, can go along with the cabinet designers suggestion or contractor's suggestion. They will do it the way they assume it suits you and is easy for them. It works for some people. Adaptation...

You can choose what to save on and what to spend to stay within budget. So I did go cheap on certain items with acceptable quality (to me).  smile.gif
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 13 2019, 07:35 AM)
Nothing in renovation is simple. If you go cheap then less thought can be put in as less regret later!

But if you want one that support your lifestyle and activities then you need to think hard what do you want. For my current renovation I listed down every area and every rooms requirements. Design based on those requirements.

Color of the paint, countertop material, smart switches and color of the switches, led size shape lumen, normal socket vs eubiq, total power for each area, curtain vs blind and type, water filter indoor and outdoor, garbage disposal, granite vs stainless steel sinks, taps, etc etc

If you don't want to have regrets better plan down to last details. FYI the arrangement and layout of my switches I won't let my electrician simply install 🤣
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Then what this bro said is true hahahah down to details. Like literally everything. Havent even got the unit yet. Now budget too have to headache
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Anyone can explain what is the differences between these materials for kitchen cabinet's door? which is more durable and last longer?

MELAMINE HARDBOARD ABS vs
LAMINATE PLYWOOD WITH ALUMINIUM FRAME vs
GLASS COATED / GLASS STICKER / 4G ACRYLIC ?
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Hi all sifu,

If i get a quote for the following materials:-
Melamine with 4G doors (top with Quartz)
Aluminium skirting
9.5 feet Top
15.5 feet Base

The whole package is RM18.5k. Isnt worth?
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Hi all sifu,

If i get a quote for the following materials:-
Melamine with 4G doors (top with Quartz)
Aluminium skirting
9.5 feet Top
15.5 feet Base

The whole package is RM18.5k. Isnt worth?
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Reasonable... of course you need to look at the quality of the material.. eg the quartz has diff grade too! and also the hinges and stuff...
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QUOTE(doxb @ Nov 14 2019, 08:25 PM)
Reasonable... of course you need to look at the quality of the material.. eg the quartz has diff grade too! and also the hinges and stuff...
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How to examine the grade of quartz and hinge?
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How to examine the grade of quartz and hinge?
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China quartz can be cheap RM100+ per ft run. Silestone can range from 350-900 per ft run. There are even more expensive ones around. Blum hinges are expensive. Some can cost 700 per set. But they last forever. My current kitchen are full Blum and Silestone and those are the killers. There are cheaper alternatives but you should get your supplier list all the components used.
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 14 2019, 09:08 PM)
China quartz can be cheap RM100+ per ft run. Silestone can range from 350-900 per ft run. There are even more expensive ones around. Blum hinges are expensive. Some can cost 700 per set. But they last forever. My current kitchen are full Blum and Silestone and those are the killers. There are cheaper alternatives but you should get your supplier list all the components used.
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The hinges are haffle, but the quartz... I duno how to see whether its silestone or china brand. Mind to share me how to see?
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The hinges are haffle, but the quartz... I duno how to see whether its silestone or china brand. Mind to share me how to see?
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You meant Hefele? Then it is ok. Not bad not Blum but good.
Counter top you just have to ask the supplier. Some Silestone has logo but mine doesn't but they are genuine. The difference between good and not so good quartz is the bonding resin used. Silestone is more than 90% quartz and has anti bacterial material added. So it is safe to prepare food directly on top if you so desired and also tough like hell. But you really can't tell easily until you use it.

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 15 2019, 01:27 AM)
You meant Hefele? Then it is ok. Not bad not Blum but good.
Counter top you just have to ask the supplier. Some Silestone has logo but mine doesn't but they are genuine. The difference between good and not so good quartz is the bonding resin  used. Silestone is more than 90% quartz and has anti bacterial material added. So it is safe to prepare food directly on top if you so desired and also tough like hell. But you really can't tell easily until you use it.
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Ok. I will ask the supplier. Thank you so much! Learned a lot from you.
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QUOTE(Jszeon @ Nov 15 2019, 12:07 PM)
Ok. I will ask the supplier. Thank you so much! Learned a lot from you.
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NP. Just ask your supplier what's the brand of the quartz. Generally if they don't tell you then it is general china made one. Those I doubt they have specs provided.

The higher the % of quartz the harder the counter top but like I said the bonding resin is quite important. Mine I can put hot pot on top and still no problem. You don't want to risk those china made quartz with unknown specs. That said if you use it carefully even china quartz will last you a long time. Just don't select those white ones because cheaper brands white color can be easier to stain ... even for quartz due to poor bonding resin
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 15 2019, 01:13 PM)
NP. Just ask your supplier what's the brand of the quartz. Generally if they don't tell you then it is general china made one. Those I doubt they have specs provided.

The higher the % of quartz the harder the counter top but like I said the bonding resin is quite important. Mine I can put hot pot on top and still no problem. You don't want to risk those china made quartz with unknown specs. That said if you use it carefully even china quartz will last you a long time. Just don't select those white ones because cheaper brands white color can be easier to stain ... even for quartz due to poor bonding resin
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Do u thk black color is better than white? I also have dilemma choosing black or white.
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 15 2019, 01:13 PM)
NP. Just ask your supplier what's the brand of the quartz. Generally if they don't tell you then it is general china made one. Those I doubt they have specs provided.

The higher the % of quartz the harder the counter top but like I said the bonding resin is quite important. Mine I can put hot pot on top and still no problem. You don't want to risk those china made quartz with unknown specs. That said if you use it carefully even china quartz will last you a long time. Just don't select those white ones because cheaper brands white color can be easier to stain ... even for quartz due to poor bonding resin
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I asked my supplier. He said its a China premium brand. LOL
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Do u thk black color is better than white? I also have dilemma choosing black or white.
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If you want less visible stain and easier care always go with grey or black especially wet kitchen. White may be ok for dry kitchen but even my Silestone has very minor blemish after 10 years.

It is a matter matching or contrasting with your cabinet and sinks. Those black with galaxy look (see second photo) actually not half bad. Of course a clean white color always impressive provided they don't turn yellow 🤣

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I asked my supplier. He said its a China premium brand. LOL
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Tell me which self respected manufacturers will say their products are non premium. It is premium of he can tell you his quartz content is >90%. And the type of bonding resin/glue used. That said even 75% quartz content is decent enough but you need to exercise care when use.

It is still harder and easier to maintain than marble and some natural stones, solid surfaces or woods.
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Tell me which self respected manufacturers will say their products are non premium. It is premium of he can tell you his quartz content is >90%. And the type of bonding resin/glue used. That said even 75% quartz content is decent enough but you need to exercise care when use.

It is still harder and easier to maintain than marble and some natural stones, solid surfaces or woods.
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I know its not premium la. But what to do? Very difficult to find good quality stuffs with reasonable price nowadays.
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QUOTE(Jszeon @ Nov 15 2019, 04:10 PM)
I know its not premium la. But what to do? Very difficult to find good quality stuffs with reasonable price nowadays.
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China quartz can still be nice. Just have to choose the right one to compliment your cabinet.
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China quartz can still be nice. Just have to choose the right one to compliment your cabinet.
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Yes! All made in China! And they have spectrum.... bad to premium quality... also depend on how you used it! Just like proton and BMW. How long do you plan to keep ur kitchen. ? 5 year ? 10 years? Or moving to bigger place in 3 years time? Renting it out?
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QUOTE(doxb @ Nov 16 2019, 02:45 PM)
Yes! All made in China! And they have spectrum.... bad to premium quality... also depend on how you used it! Just like proton and BMW. How long do you plan to keep ur kitchen. ? 5 year ? 10 years? Or moving to bigger place in 3 years time? Renting it out?
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If you were renting it out even melamine is ok. Tiles are cheaper too. We are talking about own stay. Not all are made in China. Granted some in China are good too but Silestones are from Spain; Ceasarstones are from Israel/USA. Just like some cars are not made in China but in Germany 🤣
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 16 2019, 02:53 PM)
If you were renting it out even melamine is ok. Tiles are cheaper too. We are talking about own stay. Not all are made in China. Granted some in China are good too but Silestones are from Spain; Ceasarstones are from Israel/USA. Just like some cars are not made in China but in Germany 🤣
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I get a quotation from legend kitchen today. Suprisingly the price is higher than unity kitchen. They are given blum as accessories. But the other is the same which is quartz stone, melamine.
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I get a quotation from legend kitchen today. Suprisingly the price is higher than unity kitchen. They are given blum as accessories. But the other is the same which is quartz stone, melamine.
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I have not dealt with Legend before so I guess it is possible although Unity is already not cheap. Blum are not cheap. If full Blum that may costly. My two Blum Aventos lift up hinges already RM780! Do you have add in trays etc?

Not all china quartz are similar either. Doors materials and finish? If they provide itemized breakdown you can compare. If lumsum then a bit difficult.
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QUOTE(Jszeon @ Nov 15 2019, 04:10 PM)
I know its not premium la. But what to do? Very difficult to find good quality stuffs with reasonable price nowadays.
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This is quite true. My mom was surprised when i told her that i budgeted around 40k for kitchen cabinet that might not be full solid wood. She told me when my dad installed kitchen cabinet in our house in kampung back in 1992, it only cost them less than 10k for nyatoh door + concrete top.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 16 2019, 04:13 PM)
This is quite true. My mom was surprised when i told her that i budgeted around 40k for kitchen cabinet that might not be full solid wood. She told me when my dad installed kitchen cabinet in our house in kampung back in 1992, it only cost them less than 10k for nyatoh door + concrete top.
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1992! Of course lah I also much more handsome then! 🤣
You can't compare. A 10k value of money in 1992 is much more than today. Your kampung house also use concrete top which is much cheaper. It is functional but ... 🤔
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Nov 16 2019, 04:35 PM)
1992! Of course lah I also much more handsome then! 🤣
You can't compare. A 10k value of money in 1992 is much more than today. Your kampung house also use concrete top which is much cheaper. It is functional but ... 🤔
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Until today still a lot of people using concrete top because they don’t mind the look. And concrete is really durable.

Yeah i know it’s 1992. But cabinet price has gone 4 fold when salary isn’t increasing as much. I remember debating with my mom about buying house few years back. Back in 1978 they bought a house at 45k in shah alam with household income of RM1800. But now what can you get for 450k in Shah Alam? And my household income isn’t even 18k sweat.gif
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Until today still a lot of people using concrete top because they don’t mind the look. And concrete is really durable.

Yeah i know it’s 1992. But cabinet price has gone 4 fold when salary isn’t increasing as much. I remember debating with my mom about buying house few years back. Back in 1978 they bought a house at 45k in shah alam with household income of RM1800. But now what can you get for 450k in Shah Alam? And my household income isn’t even 18k sweat.gif
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Concrete will last long after you perish! That said the good option nowadays is using 2x2 tiles as countertop with concrete structure. Some of these tiles are nice enough.

KV houses are becoming unaffordable. My one legacy to my kids are they will have a nice home and not to worry about buying a house immediately. They can drive proton if they are not capable! 🤣
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Anyone here got their KC from IKEA? not sure whether they can design tailor made for us... or have to buy the ready-made from them
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Anyone knows other contractors that supply aluminum cabinet with wood grain effect like alloy kitchen?

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A few China Chinese operate shops do that, you can customise and they will order it from China for you. Many option but.... skeptical on their workmanship when it comes to assemble them here. Don’t think they can find good skilful master to install. Been to their showroom and not very convince on their workmanship. But they do have a great deal of option, pattern, accessory and it’s very reasonably price.
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Modular units, so can’t really modify. Same with signature kitchen and aino.
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After extensive research on nyatoh kitchen cabinet, i found out that if you want nyatoh kitchen cabinet, you have to go to malay kitchen cabinet company. Most “established” one have plenty of experience in nyatoh kitchen cabinet and their price is quite competitive. I guess non malay doesn’t like solid wood kitchen cabinet as much as malay do.
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I would like to know if u have any info/experience with panelyx brand for kitchen cabiket

Looks very unique and nice

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I’m planning to engage Chan kitchen cabinet for my KC.

Just wondering if anyone have any experience with them. I searched in this forum but found good and bad reviews.

Wondering if anyone have any recent experience with them.
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Any contractor here? Looking for quotation for 8ft base + wall + quartz kitchen cabinet. Any sensing how much it will cost?
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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Nov 16 2019, 10:35 PM)
Anyone here got their KC from IKEA? not sure whether they can design tailor made for us... or have to buy the ready-made from them
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Mine is 8ft (240cm) kitchen, base only for now, because poorfag budget constraint. Ngam ngam fit a space of 241cm.

I bought Ikea Metod series, self DIY install. thumbup.gif

(0 mark)[40cm][--80cm[piping here]--][-60cm-][-60cm-](241cm end mark)

as the plumbing is for double bowl sink and plumbing ngam ngam at 80cm point, so I got the first module to be 40cm in order not to have to weaken the chassis by cutting it.
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Hi all,share with all.How to get the most suitable design in a limited  space.
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Can someone plz advise me on the market price for kitchen cabinet?

I need to do 15 ft for dry kitchen (top + bottom) and 10ft for wet kitchen (top + bottom). I am open for melamine type KC or aluminium
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Anyone got cabinets from aluminium? Saw a few at SPCC over the weekend during home expo
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Hi, please add on to this list according to your knowledge/info. This is based on my reading and talking to salesperson.

1. Material:
Door:
Nyatoh - most expensive, last many many years, not very customizable depending on your company, usually small kitchen also more than rm10k

Melamine - least expensive, many choices of design, different thickness (different pricing/quality), least durable

Carcass: many types but recommended for aluminium for under sink

2. Hinges
Germany: Blum (most expensive, longest warranty) & Hafele (1-2 year warranty, has the slim drawer option unlike Blum)

China: no specific brand, mostly 1 year warranty

3. Accessories : refer above
German-made costs up to 3x compared to China made & can take on more weight on their drawers

4. Countertop
Marble: needs regular maintenance, most expensive, your malaysian cooking ingredients will seep through the top if u dont wipe quickly, can crack at the pattern area

Quartz: many different quality, most durable, least maintenance

Granite: needs maintenance, needs to wipe quickly when things spill.

Solid surface : more suitable for dry kitchen, can create seamless design with your sink

Please also recommend your KC companies if you've had good experience with them. smile.gif

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acrylic is prone to scratch?
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Everyone have question regarding your cabinet design or problem can pm me.i have no any charges for anyone here.hope can help anyone easy create your comfort life. thumbup.gif My personal FB likepages.i will post many info to FB too. smile.gif
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Don't ever choose Chan Kitchen Furniture. Their price is very attractive, but their work is not nice. I am very disappointed that there is some very obvious gap in the quartz top they made. You may be save some money during the renovation, but you will be regret during your stay.
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Anybody using high gloss material for their KC?
Can share some experience

I'm in the midst of using high gloss or glass panel of my KC
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I need help to find back manufacturer for this 4G glass door panel. It uses SL as color code. Appreciate your help.

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If you're still looking for one - please be warned that I had a very bad experience with Avenue Kitchen Puchong. I suspect they even go to the extent of reporting negative reviews against their business as I noticed that my Google review that was critical of them keeps getting hidden from public view.
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I need help to find back manufacturer for this 4G glass door panel. It uses SL as color code. Appreciate your help. 

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Hi there,

It is great to have a 4G glass panel for door, but have it ever cross your mind to use sintered stone to furnished your door? We have homeowner who opted for stone for their counter top but not the entire cabinet as to have a uniform look as there is not much of an option in the past till now.

We have sintered stone that comes with a thickness of 4mm, designed to clad on your aluminium door frame or even a full size door so to speak!

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Hi there,
It is great to have a 4G glass panel for door, but have it ever cross your mind to use sintered stone to furnished your door? We have homeowner who opted for stone for their counter top but not the entire cabinet as to have a uniform look as there is not much of an option in the past till now. 
We have sintered stone that comes with a thickness of 4mm, designed to clad on your aluminium door frame or even a full size door so to speak! 
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2019/12/27/5oq5NQ.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2019/12/27/5oq5NQ.md.jpg </a>
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looks nice. Just curious these are under Silestone brand or other brands under you? Approx pricing for budgetary purpose?
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looks nice.  Just curious these are under Silestone brand or other brands under you? Approx pricing for budgetary purpose?
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i want to have small kitchen island(Penisula shaped-G) or U shaped with small extend table of 4-6 seats...i draw on paper the design but ideas keeping coming last night.. When i draw the plan in kitchenplanner it seem the measurement slightly iff
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Hi all sifus,

Any suggestion of KC suppliers for combined kitchen (dry and wet)? Chinese style cooking ocassionally.

Looking at quartz/dekotop with melamine or plywood as they seems more value for money. Also considered concrete tiles due to durability but looks old fashioned.

Budget around 15k and fellow brothers seems to recommend Honsenz and Intech from what i read, wondering if they are good.
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QUOTE(joseph1688 @ Dec 23 2019, 12:37 AM)
Don't ever choose Chan Kitchen Furniture. Their price is very attractive, but their work is not nice. I am very disappointed that there is some very obvious gap in the quartz top they made. You may be save some money during the renovation, but you will be regret during your stay.
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i just did my quartz kitchen top.
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QUOTE(alexchin7711 @ Jan 5 2020, 11:49 PM)
Hi all sifus,

Any suggestion of KC suppliers for combined kitchen (dry and wet)? Chinese style cooking ocassionally.

Looking at quartz/dekotop with melamine or plywood as they seems more value for money. Also considered concrete tiles due to durability but looks old fashioned.

Budget around 15k and fellow brothers seems to recommend Honsenz and Intech from what i read, wondering if they are good.
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For melamine most people here recommend bespoke kitchen from what i read.
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hi,share with all.Quartz stone material different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KD16zByCwo
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hi,share with all.Quartz stone material different https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KD16zByCwo
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appreciate it if u could do your videos in english. seems like you're very knowledgeable, i could learn so much if i could understand you lol. or perhaps just put some english subs?
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appreciate it if u could do your videos in english. seems like you're very knowledgeable, i could learn so much if i could understand you lol. or perhaps just put some english subs?
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This is very basic information that if u more diligent you can easily find elsewhere. It covers solid surface and quartz stone. Btw the information about Spanish quartz stone content is incorrect anyway
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appreciate it if u could do your videos in english. seems like you're very knowledgeable, i could learn so much if i could understand you lol. or perhaps just put some english subs?
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Yesterday, I approached a Kitchen cabinet company for quotation.
Cabinet price is attractive but the extra cost sounds exorbitant.

For sink installation:
* Cut a hole for Quartz: RM300
* Polish hole edge for undermount sink: RM550
* Plumbing for sink drain: RM300
Total: RM1150 merely for one sink installation. Double that if you have two.

Is this normal for all vendors?

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Feb 4 2020, 10:20 AM)
Yesterday, I approached a Kitchen cabinet company for quotation.
Cabinet price is attractive but the extra cost sounds exorbitant.

For sink installation:
* Cut a hole for Quartz: RM300
* Polish hole edge for undermount sink: RM550
* Plumbing for sink drain: RM300
Total: RM1150 merely for one sink installation. Double that if you have two.

Is this normal for all vendors?
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Cut a hole is usually 200. My contractor didn't even charge me as I bought Silestone from him. He did charge 200 for hob and 200 for dry kitchen sink. It is nonsense to need 550 to polish the edge. Even adding support won't cost that much. Plumbing can be cheaper unless yours are complicated. My wet and dry kitchen plumbing with garbage disposal was 500. But my wet kitchen Grohe was a bit complicated.

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Feb 4 2020, 12:19 PM)
Cut a hole is usually 200. My contractor didn't even charge me as I bought Silestone from him. He did charge 200 for hob and 200 for dry kitchen sink. It is nonsense to need 550 to polish the edge. Even adding support won't cost that much. Plumbing can be cheaper unless yours are complicated. My wet and dry kitchen plumbing with garbage disposal was 500. But my wet kitchen Grohe was a bit complicated.
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When did you engage the work?
I'm not sure if mine is new price for 2020.

My plumbing setup is simple, merely to connect hose to drain.
No way for RM300.
I will do it myself.

I may still go with them because their cabinet price is really competitive for the materials.
And it's a reputable brand even in this thread...
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When did you engage the work?
I'm not sure if mine is new price for 2020.

My plumbing setup is simple, merely to connect hose to drain.
No way for RM300.
I will do it myself.

I may still go with them because their cabinet price is really competitive for the materials.
And it's a reputable brand even in this thread...
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U should see my other thread on my renovation. I moved in Jan 16. What does 2020 got to do with price?
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QUOTE(doxb @ Nov 12 2019, 08:55 PM)
Nyatoh from unity kitchen is similar price to Signature kitchen hi dense melamine door! And Intech Nyatoh is cheaper then Unity. So bottom line-> get a few quotes to compare. I got the quotes from these 3 and in the end goes with Intech. Paid deposit now waiting impatiently.
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hows the workmanship?
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I decided to go with Intech KC at Semenyih. Hopefully it’s good.
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QUOTE(alexchin7711 @ Jan 5 2020, 11:49 PM)
Hi all sifus,

Any suggestion of KC suppliers for combined kitchen (dry and wet)? Chinese style cooking ocassionally.

Looking at quartz/dekotop with melamine or plywood as they seems more value for money. Also considered concrete tiles due to durability but looks old fashioned.

Budget around 15k and fellow brothers seems to recommend Honsenz and Intech from what i read, wondering if they are good.
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Did you manage to progress? Im almost in the same shoe soon, hoping for feedback. The most friendly one i been to was mixbox okr
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U should see my other thread on my renovation. I moved in Jan 16. What does 2020 got to do with price?
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That was crossing 5 new years.
Long enough for vendors to increase price... let's say 10% per year...

QUOTE(christ14 @ Feb 4 2020, 08:18 PM)
Did you manage to progress? Im almost in the same shoe soon, hoping for feedback. The most friendly one i been to was mixbox okr
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That depends on your kitchen size and materials.
In my case, 20' base and 15' wall price starts from 14k.
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That was crossing 5 new years.
Long enough for vendors to increase price... let's say 10% per year...

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Hello ... Jan 16 THIS YEAR
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Hello ... Jan 16 THIS YEAR
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Then my quotation for sink work is really bad...
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Aha... sorry that I mess up.
Then my quotation for sink work is really bad...
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it depends on the workmanship and size of your sink too, how thick is your material, how hard to work with, what is the risk of damaging the piece who will be responsible for it if damaged.
polishing also costs a lot depends on requirement too, fine finished surface.

if you don't define what kind of quality of the finishing they will work until their standard.

if you don't want them to polish try get an angle grinder/orbital sander buy proper sanding pad and hire some Bangala rm60 daily/ indo skill rm120 daily to work for you.

You will be taking the risk damaging the surface.
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 5 2020, 02:51 PM)
it depends on the workmanship and size of your sink too, how thick is your material, how hard to work with, what is the risk of damaging the piece who will be responsible for it if damaged.
polishing also costs a lot depends on requirement too, fine finished surface.

if you don't define what kind of quality of the finishing they will work until their standard.

if you don't want them to polish try get an angle grinder/orbital sander buy proper sanding pad and hire some Bangala rm60 daily/ indo skill rm120 daily to work for you.

You will be taking the risk damaging the surface.
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As a normal consumer, we won't know the industry quality standard, no way to define the quality standard.
But we do know the perceived output of the polished edge.
Charging high doesn't guarantee good quality too.

Today, I got another quote from another kitchen cabinet vendor (premium brand).
Cutting hole + edge polishing costs RM350 comparing to first quotation of RM850.
How does it sound?

Both company do not care hole size but quotation is based on number of holes and do not care materials, quartz (any brands) / granite.


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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 5 2020, 02:51 PM)
it depends on the workmanship and size of your sink too, how thick is your material, how hard to work with, what is the risk of damaging the piece who will be responsible for it if damaged.
polishing also costs a lot depends on requirement too, fine finished surface.

if you don't define what kind of quality of the finishing they will work until their standard.

if you don't want them to polish try get an angle grinder/orbital sander buy proper sanding pad and hire some Bangala rm60 daily/ indo skill rm120 daily to work for you.

You will be taking the risk damaging the surface.
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For most sinks it doesn't matter what is the make or size, a hole is a hole. I have never heard of charging extra based on the type of sink unless your sinks cost 20k or above.

I saw the guys cutting the holes for top mount and hob right at my house during renovation. It's not rocket science. Trust me there is not much polishing needed. Undermount is slightly trickier. Usually done in the factory with exact measurement of your sink.
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QUOTE(Snoy @ Feb 5 2020, 04:45 PM)
As a normal consumer, we won't know the industry quality standard, no way to define the quality standard.
But we do know the perceived output of the polished edge.
Charging high doesn't guarantee good quality too.

Today, I got another quote from another kitchen cabinet vendor (premium brand).
Cutting hole + edge polishing costs RM350 comparing to first quotation of RM850.
How does it sound?

Both company do not care hole size but quotation is based on number of holes and do not care materials, quartz (any brands) / granite.
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This is more reasonable. Edge polishing shouldn't cost much and it shouldn't be much work if they are good at cutting the hole. Your first quote on edge polishing is bs

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As a normal consumer, we won't know the industry quality standard, no way to define the quality standard.
But we do know the perceived output of the polished edge.
Charging high doesn't guarantee good quality too.

Today, I got another quote from another kitchen cabinet vendor (premium brand).
Cutting hole + edge polishing costs RM350 comparing to first quotation of RM850.
How does it sound?

Both company do not care hole size but quotation is based on number of holes and do not care materials, quartz (any brands) / granite.
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Well, no one stopping you to ask right?

Ask them to justify how come it cost so much, is your money you have the right to ask, worst case you tell them it is too much and you want it with your stated price.

Those who know how to market themself will bring in samples for you to compare, what grade of polishing is provided? 180 240, 320 or even 600?

Don't get me wrong that I agree edging cost that much, but I know that finishing/polishing work actually costs more manpower than just rough dimensioning.
That's why skills workers can charge a few times more than those without.

cabinets nowadays had been getting cheaper and cheaper, but manpower cost + materials cost had been kept going up. what's that one that had been sacrificed to justify the cost? quality.

that's why there is some cabinet that can cost up to 50k-100k they serve the same purpose but why they cost so much and people still willing to pay for it?

well, I always tell my friends who are renovating, Ikea cabinet system is a world standard system you can always use them as a benchmark to compare(they provide 25years warranty too which brand can do that?).

If you can access IKEA which No harm asking quotation you don't need to buy from them but you know how they charge and how much they allow their contractors to charge for extra works.
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After surveying for well over a month for kitchen cabinet (over 20 shops), I’ve made a top 3 with a price range between RM9-12k for melamine carcass with either 4G or acrylic door.

But I still couldn’t make my mind up as wanted to do some research on Google, Facebook and Instagram.

Then on Sunday I came across a straight from factory type of kitchen cabinet maker on Instagram. He said he has no showroom, it’s straight from the factory hence the price is much lower.

He quoted me RM6.5k wiring and hacking included
Factory is in Shah Alam.

Would this be reliable? Or is this a case of too good to be true?

For the kitchen top, he’ll give me quartz but I prefer to source the quartz myself so that I feel assured of the quality.

But how about the kitchen cabinet? Usually people use melamine. Could it be possible that he uses an even lower quality material? Is there such a thing?

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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 6 2020, 09:12 AM)
Well, no one stopping you to ask right?

Ask them to justify how come it cost so much, is your money you have the right to ask, worst case you tell them it is too much and you want it with your stated price.

Those who know how to market themself will bring in samples for you to compare, what grade of polishing is provided? 180 240, 320 or even 600?

Don't get me wrong that I agree edging cost that much, but I know that finishing/polishing work actually costs more manpower than just rough dimensioning.
That's why skills workers can charge a few times more than those without.

cabinets nowadays had been getting cheaper and cheaper, but manpower cost + materials cost had been kept going up. what's that one that had been sacrificed to justify the cost? quality.

that's why there is some cabinet that can cost up to 50k-100k they serve the same purpose but why they cost so much and people still willing to pay for it?

well, I always tell my friends who are renovating, Ikea cabinet system is a world standard system you can always use them as a benchmark to compare(they provide 25years warranty too which brand can do that?).

If you can access IKEA which No harm asking quotation you don't need to buy from them but you know how they charge and how much they allow their contractors to charge for extra works.
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I do hope that you have chance to walk around few kitchen cabinet showrooms to see the reality.

With such high price, of course we'll ask.
Most if not all of them will say the charges are incurred by other contractors... not them, hence fixed price.
They can only tell the quality must be good and no other details.
Also, as I said earlier, they charge by lumpsum "per hole" instead of size or materials.

I do agree that Ikea cabinet is the benchmark.
Honestly, I did install a 14ft base 10ft wall Ikea cabinets by myself for another house.
To my surprise, the wood quality does give better perceived quality than comparable priced melamine cabinets from other vendors.
If I'm going with wood for new cabinet, I'll take Ikea anytime.

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http://geoluxe.com

I've been looking at high-end stone counter-tops & came across this product from Thailand at one of their show-rooms..

it's pretty amazing. IMO.. kitchen carpentry can be basic, however, the finishing and counter-top is what makes or breaks how a kitchen feel.

benefit of this stone is it is high-end like marble, but without the hassle of maintenance & fragility of marble tops. I have a quote locally for about RM400 per sqft.. including cutting and fitting on site.

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Feb 6 2020, 09:58 AM)
I do hope that you have chance to walk around few kitchen cabinet showrooms to see the reality.

With such high price, of course we'll ask.
Most if not all of them will say the charges are incurred by other contractors... not them, hence fixed price.
They can only tell the quality must be good and no other details.
Also, as I said earlier, they charge by lumpsum "per hole" instead of size or materials.

I do agree that Ikea cabinet is the benchmark.
Honestly, I did install a 14ft base 10ft wall Ikea cabinets by myself for another house.
To my surprise, the wood quality does give better perceived quality than comparable priced melamine cabinets from other vendors.
If I'm going with wood for new cabinet, I'll take Ikea anytime.
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Ikea is pricey, for basic quality product.. imo la, once you start exploring bespoke suppliers, their counter-top options are very bland..

also cabinets & carpentry, I prefer aluminium these days..

https://www.apresi.com.my

these guys are the industry standards for great quality aluminium kitchen. But on the pricier side, comparable to ikea prices.

I recommend this company: https://www.bleno.com.my . cheap, good and great service.

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Feb 6 2020, 09:58 AM)
I do hope that you have chance to walk around few kitchen cabinet showrooms to see the reality.

With such high price, of course we'll ask.
Most if not all of them will say the charges are incurred by other contractors... not them, hence fixed price.
They can only tell the quality must be good and no other details.
Also, as I said earlier, they charge by lumpsum "per hole" instead of size or materials.

I do agree that Ikea cabinet is the benchmark.
Honestly, I did install a 14ft base 10ft wall Ikea cabinets by myself for another house.
To my surprise, the wood quality does give better perceived quality than comparable priced melamine cabinets from other vendors.
If I'm going with wood for new cabinet, I'll take Ikea anytime.

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I am building my own cabinet after surveying those offered locally if they make according to my design and specification it will cost me nearly 30-40k. I did consider IKEA but their standard size unable to fit in my cabinet area without looking odd.

The reason is their Subcon charged mobilizing cost+ management cost, which also added up the total cost. those who supply and install solid tops already expected those requests will have the capability to fulfill it with minimum cost, so is not apple to apple comparison.

Not everyone will know how to value IKEA product, they think all are made equally compared to those local vendors. if IKEA's product is so bad in value why can they keep opening stores worldwide, why do we see any cabinetmakers able to achieve what IKEA had.

Ikea uses 18mm E1 or E0 grade particleboard. most cabinet makers only offered 16mm e2 grade unless specified. their doors are all vacuum PVC MDF boards which why those doors cost a lot more compared to standard melamine edge banding doors.

Vacuum PVC door will have minimal joints between edging will create fine looking finishing.

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The one that "was" RM6.5k was nonsense. I drove all the way to deep parts of Shah Alam Jelutong side but even deeper. 1.5 hours.
He claimed that the price is RM6.5k is for the carcass only. I asked him quotation for kitchen cabinet. But apparently he gave carcass quotation only bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

In the end I went with Solid Top. The person in charge looked like a sifu. I was told he was the senior installer.

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The one that "was" RM6.5k was nonsense. I drove all the way to deep parts of Shah Alam Jelutong side but even deeper. 1.5 hours.
He claimed that the price is RM6.5k is for the carcass only. I asked him quotation for kitchen cabinet. But apparently he gave carcass quotation only  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

In the end I went with Solid Top. The person in charge looked like a sifu. I was told he was the senior installer.
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 6 2020, 11:13 AM)
I am building my own cabinet after surveying those offered locally if they make according to my design and specification it will cost me nearly 30-40k. I did consider IKEA but their standard size unable to fit in my cabinet area without looking odd.

The reason is their Subcon charged mobilizing cost+ management cost, which also added up the total cost. those who supply and install solid tops already expected those requests will have the capability to fulfill it with minimum cost, so is not apple to apple comparison.

Not everyone will know how to value IKEA product, they think all are made equally compared to those local vendors. if IKEA's product is so bad in value why can they keep opening stores worldwide, why do we see any cabinetmakers able to achieve what IKEA had.

Ikea uses 18mm E1 or E0 grade particleboard. most cabinet makers only offered 16mm e2 grade unless specified. their doors are all vacuum PVC MDF boards which why those doors cost a lot more compared to standard melamine edge banding doors.

Vacuum PVC door will have minimal joints between edging will create fine looking finishing.
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When is IKEA the benchmark furniture? They are everywhere because they are cheap elsewhere except third world countries. Go to US and see what people think of IKEA furniture. Only people here think it is God send.

Melamine is melamine. Granted IKEA's melamine is better melamine but it is still melamine. Wont last long time vs solid wood for example. IKEA furniture in Malaysia is not really cheap. I go to IKEA to see and get decoration ideas and bought some items but I would hardly call it as benchmark or reference.


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 6 2020, 10:46 AM)
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http://geoluxe.com

I've been looking at high-end stone counter-tops & came across this product from Thailand at one of their show-rooms..

it's pretty amazing. IMO.. kitchen carpentry can be basic, however, the finishing and counter-top is what makes or breaks how a kitchen feel.

benefit of this stone is it is high-end like marble, but without the hassle of maintenance & fragility of marble tops. I have a quote locally for about RM400 per sqft.. including cutting and fitting on site.
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This looks interesting. However at this price you can get Silestone or Caesarstone. They are better technically I'm terms of porosity. This one is 0.5 and Silestone is 0.05. That means water absorption (anti bacteria) and stain resistance the best of quartz still better. The marble look is interesting though
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QUOTE(kuchaikway @ Feb 6 2020, 11:39 AM)
When is IKEA the benchmark furniture?  They are everywhere because they are cheap elsewhere except third world countries.  Go to US and see what people think of IKEA furniture.  Only people here think it is God send.

Melamine is melamine.  Granted IKEA's melamine is better melamine but it is still melamine.  Wont last long time vs solid wood for example.  IKEA furniture in Malaysia is not really cheap.  I go to IKEA to see and get decoration ideas and bought some items but I would hardly call it a benchmark or reference.
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No offense but I think you misunderstand my statement, maybe you should re-read my statement.

Anyway, how many people can afford solid wood furniture in Malaysia do you have the same buying power compared to us?

Melamine is mechanically more stable than solid wood the issue is that if the finishing of melamine is bad it will tend to have exposure to moisture and cause it to swollen.

IKEA furniture has different grades too(wardrobe 10years, kitchen 25 years), it depends on what you are comparing to. What is most important to the majority of people is the value of the product.


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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 6 2020, 10:46 AM)
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http://geoluxe.com

I've been looking at high-end stone counter-tops & came across this product from Thailand at one of their show-rooms..

it's pretty amazing. IMO.. kitchen carpentry can be basic, however, the finishing and counter-top is what makes or breaks how a kitchen feel.

benefit of this stone is it is high-end like marble, but without the hassle of maintenance & fragility of marble tops. I have a quote locally for about RM400 per sqft.. including cutting and fitting on site.
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high-end manmade stone, designed to solve most natural stone problem with a cost, looks interesting as it doesn't use resin as their bonding reagent.
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 6 2020, 11:13 AM)
well, I always tell my friends who are renovating, Ikea cabinet system is a world standard system you can always use them as a benchmark to compare(they provide 25years warranty too which brand can do that?).


Not everyone will know how to value IKEA product, they think all are made equally compared to those local vendors. if IKEA's product is so bad in value why can they keep opening stores worldwide, why do we see any cabinetmakers able to achieve what IKEA had.

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No offense but I think you misunderstand my statement, maybe you should re-read my statement.

Anyway, how many people can afford solid wood furniture in Malaysia do you have the same buying power compared to us?

Melamine is mechanically more stable than solid wood the issue is that if the finishing of melamine is bad it will tend to have exposure to moisture and cause it to swollen.

IKEA furniture has different grades too(wardrobe 10years, kitchen 25 years), it depends on what you are comparing to. What is most important to the majority of people is the value of the product.
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I read your statements all right. It is fine if you think IKEA is good. They do have some items on sale that are good value. It has big sophisticated machines that can make even cut of materials and decent looking. But I would not say it is "world standard" system. Even IKEA itself never claim themselves to be high end but functional Scandinavian design.

IKEA's melamine furniture is as expensive as plywood furniture made from local cabinet makers. I guess for u you will choose IKEA's melamine since it is world standard? I would say some others would go for stronger and better moisture resistance plywood.

I merely addressing your assumption that IKEA keep opening stores world wide then their products must not be bad. I can give you many more examples of so so products that are popular vs equivalent competitors: Bose, Starbucks, McDonald, etc. Being popular does not equate to being best or reference.


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QUOTE(kuchaikway @ Feb 6 2020, 12:52 PM)
I read your statements all right.  It is fine if you think IKEA is good. They do have some items on sale that are good value.  It has big sophisticated machines that can make even cut of materials and decent looking.  But I would not say it is "world standard" system.  Even IKEA itself never claim themselves to be high end but functional Scandinavian design. 

IKEA's melamine furniture is as expensive as plywood furniture made from local cabinet makers.  I guess for u you will choose IKEA's melamine since it is world standard?  I would say some others would go for stronger and better moisture resistance plywood.

I merely addressing your assumption that IKEA keep opening stores world wide then their products must not be bad.  I can give you many more examples of so so products that are popular vs equivalent competitors: Bose, Starbucks, McDonald, etc.  Being popular does not equate to being best or reference.
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I would agree on some of your points but not all.

IKEA is popular, that's why it can become a standard or reference.
Being popular doesn't mean good but definitely can become a benchmark to compare with others in terms of price, quality and support.

I didn't have a chance to check for plywood cabinets price.
But for melamine cabinets with the well-known kitchen vendors, IKEA price is competitive with better perceived finishing.




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The reason is their Subcon charged mobilizing cost+ management cost, which also added up the total cost. those who supply and install solid tops already expected those requests will have the capability to fulfill it with minimum cost, so is not apple to apple comparison.
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I'm comparing two kitchen cabinet vendors who use subcons for the worktop cutting and polishing activity.
One quoted RM850 meanwhile another quoted RM350.
For me, this is still apple to apple comparison.

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QUOTE(kuchaikway @ Feb 6 2020, 12:52 PM)
I read your statements all right.  It is fine if you think IKEA is good. They do have some items on sale that are good value.  It has big sophisticated machines that can make even cut of materials and decent looking.  But I would not say it is "world standard" system.  Even IKEA itself never claim themselves to be high end but functional Scandinavian design. 

IKEA's melamine furniture is as expensive as plywood furniture made from local cabinet makers.  I guess for u you will choose IKEA's melamine since it is world standard?  I would say some others would go for stronger and better moisture resistance plywood.

I merely addressing your assumption that IKEA keep opening stores world wide then their products must not be bad.  I can give you many more examples of so so products that are popular vs equivalent competitors: Bose, Starbucks, McDonald, etc.  Being popular does not equate to being best or reference.
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I am sorry that my statement made you confused, I believe I didn't make my self clear enough as you still misunderstand what is the so-called world standard system.

Is the standard design where they sell it worldwide (i never claimed that they are furniture world standard where everyone should follow) with the same/similar specification for example 18mm thick panel, melamine foil surface finishing and particleboard core, dimension control within +/-1mm (i assume) for a fix price which you can view/refer from their website.

Their price won't have much fluctuation where you can use their price and spec as a benchmark to compare to those you engaged for a quotation.

For example Cabinet maker A quoted me this price for similar spec compares to the one quoted by IKEA.

Speaking of personal experience, those which I previously engaged for quotation many try not to specify all info a will they deliver until what kinds of standard as cabinet have don't have any (EN 13986 or CARN) standard to are if you are person with sustainable mindset you might also look for FSC, PEFC certified.

Btw higher moisture resistance plywood tend to release more formaldehyde compare to less moisture resistance one, people often oversee the risk of formaldehyde which will cause health issue, that's why in furniture industry people start moving towards E0 standard or low VOC materials.

I believe everyone comes here to look for some constructive information, I will just try my best to share what I had experienced before to help others to make a wise decision. or at least they know what they are looking for.
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I'm comparing two kitchen cabinet vendors who use subcons for the worktop cutting and polishing activity.
One quoted RM850 meanwhile another quoted RM350.
For me, this is still apple to apple comparison.
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then is how they are being charged, they just transfer it to the client.

I had been managing with a few tendering projects recently and some company who can lump sump the job offer a better price some need to charge extra for all specifications, but we know that the company which can have extra charge will deliver a better finishing we negotiate with them so that they can meet or even lower their price.

Money is your you have the right to choose, don't let them constrain your choice always negotiate if you don't feel comfortable or just walk away.
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when ask for quotation, the quotation must specific everything including what will be supplied and what term and condition.
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I asked quotations from around 20 shops and none of them only quoted for carcass.. not a single one..
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Feb 6 2020, 12:07 PM)
This looks interesting. However at this price you can get Silestone or Caesarstone. They are better technically I'm terms of porosity. This one is 0.5 and Silestone is 0.05. That means water absorption (anti bacteria) and stain resistance the best of quartz still better. The marble look is interesting though
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I think this geoluxe stone is also very durable.

The showroom in Thailand had an induction cooker built right inside the stone counter top and you could put a pan ontop of it to cook..

Then when remove the pan and you put your hand directly ontop, didnt even feel heat at all..

Thought it was some sort of magic trick.. Lol..

They were also cutting directly ontop of the counter-top. To prove it was scratch resistant..


I found a video of exact demonstration that i saw..

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Hi guys,

Just got my kitchen done and like to share some pictures of my humble little kitchen - aluminium cabinet with quartz top smile.gif

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paiseh for the lousy pictures

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QUOTE(lv1209 @ Feb 11 2020, 11:35 PM)
Hi guys,

Just got my kitchen done and like to share some pictures of my humble little kitchen - aluminium cabinet with quartz top smile.gif

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How much total cost?

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How much total cost?
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total exclude the cooking hood, hob and basin - rm 20k

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QUOTE(lv1209 @ Feb 11 2020, 10:35 PM)
Hi guys,

Just got my kitchen done and like to share some pictures of my humble little kitchen - aluminium cabinet with quartz top smile.gif

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Hi,may i know the height of the quartz top from bottom floor?
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nowadays KC sudah naik harga, and those contractors margin is getting larger and larger.

Not to say apa la, previously margin very low. Now i guess its okay.
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total exclude the cooking hood, hob and basin - rm 20k
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Is that aluminium material?

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Hi,may i know the height of the quartz top from bottom floor?
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Hi, height from floor to quartz is 950mm if not mistaken..

i didn't measure, the measurement is from the paper written by contractor
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whole thing is aluminium including the door and the wooden part
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Feb 6 2020, 06:38 PM)
I think this geoluxe stone is also very durable.

The showroom in Thailand had an induction cooker built right inside the stone counter top and you could put a pan ontop of it to cook..

Then when remove the pan and you put your hand directly ontop, didnt even feel heat at all..

Thought it was some sort of magic trick.. Lol..

They were also cutting directly ontop of the counter-top. To prove it was scratch resistant..


I found a video of exact demonstration that i saw..
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I went to BMS showroom yty and found this geoluxe, now they have new range called marmo grande,quoted rm380 per ft for top and rm220 per sqft for backsplash.

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QUOTE(lv1209 @ Feb 14 2020, 10:59 PM)
Hi, height from floor to quartz is 950mm if not mistaken..

i didn't measure, the measurement is from the paper written by contractor
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I was quoted 30k for full nyatoh. Below is the quotation:

- kabinet bawah solid nyatoh+ steel body+ quartz stone + riser concrete with mossaic finishing 29 kaki =rm9850
- kabinet atas solid nyatoh full body =rm14840
-tall unit fridge+micro wave compartment+cabinet 6200

Is it okey? I got three quotation, 30k, 30k and another one 50k

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Nyatoh wood, Penang, anyone knows?
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Hi, I am looking for kitchen cabinet maker to quote for my new apartment. Dear sifu had any contacts, my location is at Ara damansara
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QUOTE(lv1209 @ Feb 13 2020, 12:47 PM)
total exclude the cooking hood, hob and basin - rm 20k
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Got my new house at JB area. Found a kitchen design company to build my 10ft wet + 15ft dry kitchen. Fully aluminum, hinge and slider all using BLUM, Countertop is Kompacplus, quoted with roughly 32k. Is this amount consider okay or over quoted?

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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Feb 25 2020, 09:44 AM)
Got my new house at JB area. Found a kitchen design company to build my 10ft wet + 15ft dry kitchen. Fully aluminum, hinge and slider all using BLUM, Countertop is Kompacplus, quoted with roughly 32k. Is this amount consider okay or over quoted?
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It is not possible to compare the price like this because there are way many configuration available.
You have to use your configurations and compare with other Vendors.

For example, I had seen a Aluminium cabinet package asking for RM14k (20'B, 15'W).
It can go up to 20k (or more) after adding the accessories, upgrade door materials, plumbing, quartz hole, additional end panels and etc.

Example 2:
My cabinet size is 23'Base, 10'Wall, 6'Island x 2, 4G with some end panels here and there, no tall unit, no blum.
* Vendor 1: 33k, free 6'x9' wardrobe x 2
* Vendor 2: 35k
* Vendor 3: 50k



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Hi guys, I’m in a serious need for help. I’m currently doing a major renovation for my house. I’ll be re-doing all cabinetry in the house.

I’ve been dreaming of English style white kitchen for a while now. I’ll be using Silestone (Calacatta range) for my kitchen countertop. I’m at a lost with which company to go for Nyatoh kitchen cabinet - I’ve surveyed and visited Intech Kitchen, Unity Kitchen, Bali Kitchen & Wallmaster. My feedback -

1. Intech Kitchen - I had a good vibe with them, however, they do not provide any warranty. I felt uneasy as I saw cracks on one of the nyatoh kitchen cabinet door at their showroom. They couldn’t provide an explanation and insisted no warranty will be given.

2. Unity Kitchen - Pleasant experience, however, not much design available when it comes to nyatoh kitchen cabinets - they couldn’t deliver the design I wanted.

3. Bali Kitchen - Not bad, still considering. Would really appreciate some feedbacks from those who have gone with them.

4. Wallmaster - Negative experience.

5. House of Chesterfield - Negative experience.

Question 1: Can someone please recommend to me company that does good solid nyatoh cabinets ? Anyone have experience with Bali Kitchen ?

Question 2: I have been recommended by a contractor to used High Density Fibreboard (HDF) for wardrobe and other carpentry. According to him, it’s way better than MDF. Price is also higher. Any thoughts ?

Thank you in advance to all your inputs/suggestions. smile.gif




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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Feb 27 2020, 02:32 AM)
Hi guys, I’m in a serious need for help. I’m currently doing a major renovation for my house. I’ll be re-doing all cabinetry in the house.

I’ve been dreaming of English style white kitchen for a while now. I’ll be using Silestone (Calacatta range) for my kitchen countertop. I’m at a lost with which company to go for Nyatoh kitchen cabinet - I’ve surveyed and visited Intech Kitchen, Unity Kitchen, Bali Kitchen & Wallmaster. My feedback -

1. Intech Kitchen - I had a good vibe with them, however, they do not provide any warranty. I felt uneasy as I saw cracks on  one of the nyatoh kitchen cabinet door at their showroom. They couldn’t provide an explanation and insisted no warranty will be given.

2. Unity Kitchen - Pleasant experience, however, not much design available when it comes to nyatoh kitchen cabinets - they couldn’t deliver the design I wanted.

3. Bali Kitchen - Not bad, still considering. Would really appreciate some feedbacks from those who have gone with them.

4. Wallmaster - Negative experience.

5. House of Chesterfield - Negative experience.

Question 1: Can someone please recommend to me company that does good solid nyatoh cabinets ? Anyone have experience with Bali Kitchen ?

Question 2: I have been recommended by a contractor to used High Density Fibreboard (HDF) for wardrobe and other carpentry. According to him, it’s way better than MDF. Price is also higher. Any thoughts ?

Thank you in advance to all your inputs/suggestions. smile.gif
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We are Cosentino, the manufacturer that brings you Silestone and Dekton. May I be a service?
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We are Cosentino, the manufacturer that brings you Silestone and Dekton. May I be a service?
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I’ve already gotten in touch with Ms Yen Lee smile.gif Thanks
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I’ve already gotten in touch with Ms Yen Lee smile.gif Thanks
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Excellent! If you are ever in need of quotations from our approved fabricators, you are welcome to approach us again. You are advised to get a few quotes for comparison purpose.,

Remember to ask your kitchen designer for our transferable 25 years warranty.

Do drop by our showroom at Kota Damansara to view the all new Dekton, our performance based sintered stone.
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Guys, what are your thoughts on using High Density Fibreboard (HDF) for wardrobe and cabinets ? Inputs please
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Guys, what are your thoughts on using High Density Fibreboard (HDF) for wardrobe and cabinets ? Inputs please
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It all depends on you. I thought you were considering solid wood?? I would say in terms of resistance to moisture it would be solid wood, plywood, HDF, MDF and melamine in decreasing order. Price wise is obviously the other way.

Not many people go for solid wood because of price and harder to to make. Also it may crack as it is natural wood. Man made materials are far more consistent and even and easier to paint. If u can afford get the solid wood or ply wood. Although most people make do with melamine
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Feb 29 2020, 12:54 PM)
It all depends on you. I thought you were considering solid wood?? I would say in terms of resistance to moisture it would be solid wood, plywood, HDF, MDF and melamine in decreasing order. Price wise is obviously the other way.

Not many people go for solid wood because of price and harder to to make. Also it may crack as it is natural wood. Man made materials are far more consistent and even and easier to paint. If u can afford get the solid wood or ply wood. Although most people make do with melamine
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I was thinking of solid wood for my dry kitchen smile.gif as for wet kitchen, maybe HDF.. Apologies I’m just a bit nervous as my ID dropped out and I have a lot of cabinets to do 🤯

I think I’ll go with solid wood for my dry kitchen, then HDF for wet kitchen and wardrobes. Was quoted 200+k for the whole house 😣

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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Feb 29 2020, 11:07 PM)
I was thinking of solid wood for my dry kitchen smile.gif as for wet kitchen, maybe HDF.. Apologies I’m just a bit nervous as my ID dropped out and I have a lot of cabinets to do 🤯

I think I’ll go with solid wood for my dry kitchen, then HDF for wet kitchen and wardrobes. Was quoted 200+k for the whole house 😣
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Personally If I were you I would go solid wood for wet kitchen and HDF or plywood for dry. Wardrobes can be anything as long as good design because they are not close to water or moisture. But that's me.

In reality, HDF or plywood is probably good enough. You can save the money and spend on others. People that usually spend on solid wood are those that have huge budget where they don’t have to worry about trade off. If u can afford solid wood is the best.

Most of us mortals have to decide if the money should go to solid wood or better sinks, taps, lights, appliances etc. I was in that situation to decide if I want to demolish an entirely new melamine kitchen cabinet and build new ones. I decided to use it but changes most things (including to Silestone) except the carcass. I use the savings for others.

Renovation is expensive. If u were quoted 200k+ be prepared to spend 260k+


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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 1 2020, 04:50 AM)
Personally If I were you I would go solid wood for wet kitchen and HDF or plywood for dry. Wardrobes can be anything as long as good design because they are not close to water or moisture. But that's me.

In reality, HDF or plywood is probably good enough. You can save the money and spend on others. People that usually spend on solid wood are those that have huge budget where they don’t have to worry about trade off. If u can afford solid wood is the best.

Most of us mortals have to decide if the money should go to solid wood or better sinks, taps, lights, appliances etc. I was in that situation to decide if I want to demolish an entirely new melamine kitchen cabinet and build new ones. I decided to use it but changes most things (including to Silestone) except the carcass. I use the savings for others.

Renovation is expensive. If u were quoted 200k+ be prepared to spend 260k+
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Thank you for your input. Yes, renovation is indeed expensive! 200k for cabinetry alone and this is not inclusive of the Blums 😏

Initially I was thinking of going for solid wood for dry kitchen, master wardrobe, and bathroom cabinets and HDF for wet kitchen and the rest of house. Now I may need to rethink it.

Let me know if you know of any solid wood carpenter. I’ve seen quite a few but I’m not convinced with neither. Thanks again for your input I really appreciate it.

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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Mar 1 2020, 11:11 AM)
Thank you for your input. Yes, renovation is indeed expensive! 200k for cabinetry alone and this is not inclusive of the Blums 😏

Initially I was thinking of going for solid wood for dry kitchen, master wardrobe, and bathroom cabinets and HDF for wet kitchen and the rest of house. Now I may need to rethink it.

Let me know if you know of any solid wood carpenter. I’ve seen quite a few but I’m not convinced with neither. Thanks again for your input I really appreciate it.
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I was looking for a good carpenter to do my library, study and staircase shelves. Solid wood carpenters are a dying breed. The materials are expensive. One mistake the margin is gone. The smart ones open Signature Kitchen or Unity or independent plywood/melamine carpenters. This is where the money is.

The ones I dealt with are small carpenters. The price was reasonable but I really can't stand their poor response, "tidak apa" attitude. Delivery is always questionable.

There is one where I went to his shop far from my house. Agreed on the work. Wanted to bank in half as deposit. Asking for design and start work. Called and WhatsApp and never responded. These are the people you usually deal with.

May be with your 200k budget u can get better attention as money talks. To be honest 200k for cabinetry is very high-end. I spent 200k to fix my entire new house! But then I sourced everything myself and contractors do the work
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 1 2020, 11:25 AM)
I was looking for a good carpenter to do my library, study and staircase shelves. Solid wood carpenters are a dying breed. The materials are expensive. One mistake the margin is gone. The smart ones open Signature Kitchen or Unity or independent plywood/melamine carpenters. This is where the money is.

The ones I dealt with are small carpenters. The price was reasonable but I really can't stand their poor response, "tidak apa" attitude. Delivery is always questionable.

There is one where I went to his shop far from my house. Agreed on the work. Wanted to bank in half as deposit. Asking for design and start work. Called and WhatsApp and never responded. These are the people you usually deal with.

May be with your 200k budget u can get better attention as money talks. To be honest 200k for cabinetry is very high-end. I spent 200k to fix my entire new house! But then I sourced everything myself and contractors do the work
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You are spot on when it comes small time solid wood carpenters ! Their service is despicable to say the least. Even with 200k budget (and they know it!).

I’ve travelled far to visit their “showroom” as most of them are in Semenyih, Kajang area. Slow to no response, zero interest in assisting and answering my queries and the list goes on. I just don’t understand. So frustrating 😡

My house is currently under renovation and it’s quite a major one (600k for renovation). I’ve so far purchased sanitary (Kohler WC & sink, Hansgrohe shower system and faucets) and tiles (Feruni). There will be a lot more expenses moving forward 😒

I hope I’ll be able to find a decent carpenter..

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You are spot on when it comes small time solid wood carpenters ! Their service is despicable to say the least. Even with 200k budget (and they know it!).

I’ve travelled far to visit their “showroom” as most of them are in Semenyih, Kajang area. Slow to no response, zero interest in assisting and answering my queries and the list goes on. I just don’t understand. So frustrating 😡

My house is currently under renovation now and it’s quite a major one (600k for renovation). I’ve so far purchased sanitary (Kohler WC & sink, Hansgrohe shower system and faucets) and tiles (Feruni). There will be a lot more expenses moving forward 😒

I hope I’ll be able to find a decent carpenter..
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Good luck and let me know if you find a good one. I am still looking but now considering plywood.

You are playing in a different league. Only thing I can say is Feruni is only ok. I prefer MML or Niro. Should go with marble 800x800mm for living
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 1 2020, 12:07 PM)
Good luck and let me know if you find a good one. I am still looking but now considering plywood.

You are playing in a different league. Only thing I can say is Feruni is only ok. I prefer MML or Niro. Should go with marble 800x800mm for living
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Thank you ! I’ll definitely let you know if and when I find a good one smile.gif
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Just sharing my completed KC to fellow forumers.. 😁

- Material : Kabinet Fomica / Quartz top
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- Price : <15k (exclude electrical appliances)

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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Mar 1 2020, 11:11 AM)
Thank you for your input. Yes, renovation is indeed expensive! 200k for cabinetry alone and this is not inclusive of the Blums 😏

Initially I was thinking of going for solid wood for dry kitchen, master wardrobe, and bathroom cabinets and HDF for wet kitchen and the rest of house. Now I may need to rethink it.

Let me know if you know of any solid wood carpenter. I’ve seen quite a few but I’m not convinced with neither. Thanks again for your input I really appreciate it.
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I think u got it the other way round, u should use the best wood (solid wood) in your wet kitchen, unless u do a lot of washing w/ sink in your dry kitchen...

As for HDF, i think most ppl will recommend plywood instead of HDF... HDF is just a better version of MDF.... sawdust or wood particle compressed with resin.... I think similar to laminated flooring.


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A carpenter promised me that he uses Nyatoh wood, but how do I identify it's real? I went to the factory, it's definitely not fibreboard, but not a solid 1 piece also, maybe a few thin wood glue together, something like that. Is he bs or real? Certain part like the KC doors are pretty good solid wood tho .

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Mar 2 2020, 12:58 PM)
I think u got it the other way round, u should use the best wood (solid wood) in your wet kitchen, unless u do a lot of washing w/ sink in your dry kitchen...

As for HDF, i think most ppl will recommend plywood instead of HDF... HDF is just a better version of MDF.... sawdust or wood particle compressed with resin....  I think similar to laminated flooring.
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Thanks for your input. I was considering solid wood for dry kitchen for aesthetic purposes, as I am interested in the classic english style.

I'm aware that the classic english style is achievable using plywood/HDF. Do you know what would be the difference between solid wood and plywood/HDF in terms on aesthetic? In other words, would it look the same?

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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Mar 3 2020, 01:03 PM)
Thanks for your input. I was considering solid wood for dry kitchen for aesthetic purposes, as I am interested in the classic english style.

I'm aware that the classic english style is achievable using plywood/HDF. Do you know what would be the difference between solid wood and plywood/HDF in terms on aesthetic? In other words, would it look the same?

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Depends on what "color" you want for your kitchen...
If you want wooden colors, from far , solid wood vs plywood probably look the same... but from near definitely plywood with laminated skin could not hold a candle to a real wood texture, color and feel....

However if, you are going to paint a solid color over the wood, then plywood/hdf with laminate looks so much better, the surface is flawless, etc..etc...
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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Mar 3 2020, 03:29 PM)
Depends on what "color" you want for your kitchen...
If you want wooden colors, from far , solid wood vs plywood probably look the same... but from near definitely plywood with laminated skin could not hold a candle to a real wood texture, color and feel....

However if, you are going to paint a solid color over the wood, then plywood/hdf with laminate looks so much better, the surface is flawless, etc..etc...
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Thanks! you've been of great help. I'm planning to have a white kitchen smile.gif I was thinking to spray paint the cabinet but some carpenters told me that it is better to stain it. What do you think?
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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Mar 3 2020, 04:24 PM)
Thanks! you've been of great help.  I'm planning to have a white kitchen smile.gif I was thinking to spray paint the cabinet but some carpenters told me that it is better to stain it. What do you think?
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Sorry, i have no experience with painting with solid wood... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mixgal @ Mar 3 2020, 01:03 PM)
Thanks for your input. I was considering solid wood for dry kitchen for aesthetic purposes, as I am interested in the classic english style.

I'm aware that the classic english style is achievable using plywood/HDF. Do you know what would be the difference between solid wood and plywood/HDF in terms on aesthetic? In other words, would it look the same?

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Well if you want to maintain wood grain, you might need to bleach the wood first ( most tropical woods), like color woods like ash and maybe some spruce will be able to stain white and maintain grains. and they are made by solid woods. as for plywood they only use it for the middle core panel and it must be flat design else the edge will shows.

Pure solid wood doors usually panel jointed, will have chances to crack if your doors are not conditioned in your kitchen for 1-3 months or your kitchen have a high variation of humidity. They are some techniques to seal it properly or stabilize it.

MDF/HDF (seldom people use HDF as core due to the weight) will provide a smooth surface, plywood will have an uneven surface due to veneers and grain pattern.

as for most white solid color doors, people will use MDF with 1 coat of prime and 2-3 coats of paints water or oil base personally i prefer waterbased paint due to the smells which might take 1week to few months to clear is all depends on your house airflow.

in Europe, people use MDF as core and PVC films using a vacuum to laminate the doors panel, which is similar to those door panels from IKEA the edge is smooth not like those pvc edge banding.


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Hi guys.. still don't understand, is it possible to laminate + Nyatoh?

I thought all laminate = mdf/hdf kind of wood
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Looking to add kitchen cabinet like the one below to my existing quartz counter top, what is the estimate price based on plywood or melamine? thanks

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Am currently looking for carpenter for my whole house, drawings and design are there already with dimensions, just need quotation! Thanks!
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Hi guys. Any ideas on KC for my kitchen area? As i wish to build one. Anyway this is subsale semi-d house I bought last year. user posted image
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QUOTE(yoonyin @ Feb 25 2020, 09:44 AM)
Got my new house at JB area. Found a kitchen design company to build my 10ft wet + 15ft dry kitchen. Fully aluminum, hinge and slider all using BLUM, Countertop is Kompacplus, quoted with roughly 32k. Is this amount consider okay or over quoted?
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Hi all, I’m currently searching for KC specialist company to design my upcoming new condo unit.

Job scope:
1) Wardrobe
2) TV Cabinet
3) Laundry Cabinet
4) Shoe Cabinet
5) Custom-made Cabinet on Kitchen Island

As what I have read through the comments in this forum, I have shortlisted several companies which shows some potential as below. Please feel free to comment if you have any past experience with them or even share with me. That would really help me out in choosing one of them.

List of KC companies:
1) Unity Kitchen
2) Bespoke Kitchen (Formerly knows as Homemark)
3) Tivolli Design
4) Golden Carpentry
5) Verra Kitchen
6) Intech Kitchen
7) Rowenda Kitchen
8) Legend Kitchen

P/S: I don’t mind paying as long as the quality and workmanship is good. Basically the whole process from designing, installation and after sales will be smooth.
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QUOTE(ikannnn @ Apr 18 2020, 11:25 PM)
Hi guys. Any ideas on KC for my kitchen area? As i wish to build one. Anyway this is subsale semi-d house I bought last year.  user posted image
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worry wanna reply you, takut click bait ikankering

but punn aside, cant see your angle very well, but since its just a plain space, ada door at the side, id make a peninsular or G type kitchen layout, limit the entry into the kitchen area, make it more organized. Kalau U type, tengok saja can see everything, and its not a good use of space. Kalau your area is narrow sikit, boleh la buat U.

your budget berapa ooo? kithcne cabinet is no cheap cheap thing..

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Hi sifus, just wanna check - if the KC countertop around the sink is spoilt due to water over a long period, can we actually repair just that spot or do we have to change the entire countertop? TQ
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http://geoluxe.com

I've been looking at high-end stone counter-tops & came across this product from Thailand at one of their show-rooms..

it's pretty amazing. IMO.. kitchen carpentry can be basic, however, the finishing and counter-top is what makes or breaks how a kitchen feel.

benefit of this stone is it is high-end like marble, but without the hassle of maintenance & fragility of marble tops. I have a quote locally for about RM400 per sqft.. including cutting and fitting on site.
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Hi,  did you use Geoluxe?  I’m also considering to use this product; would appreciate your feedback if you did use it. Thanks.
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QUOTE(ijan @ Apr 29 2020, 10:30 PM)
worry wanna reply you, takut click bait ikankering

but punn aside, cant see your angle very well, but since its just a plain space, ada door at the side, id make a peninsular or G type kitchen layout, limit the entry into the kitchen area, make it more organized. Kalau U type, tengok saja can see everything, and its not a good use of space. Kalau your area is narrow sikit, boleh la buat U.

your budget berapa ooo? kithcne cabinet is no cheap cheap thing..
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Actually got toilet & backdoor on left side while right corner got 2nd & 3rd bedroom.
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Actually got toilet & backdoor on left side while right corner got 2nd & 3rd bedroom.
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whats your budget?

Good quality, good parts, good mechanism...cost saja quite expensive...

Top mahu apa, laminated top, concrete, tile, marble, granite bla bla bla

So, paing senang, budget, because if you say RM5k, you go kedai perabot beli beli sikit2 like kampung style cost youre not going to make it 5k with that size...even with mos tbasic of quality

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Until today still a lot of people using concrete top because they don’t mind the look. And concrete is really durable.

Yeah i know it’s 1992. But cabinet price has gone 4 fold when salary isn’t increasing as much. I remember debating with my mom about buying house few years back. Back in 1978 they bought a house at 45k in shah alam with household income of RM1800. But now what can you get for 450k in Shah Alam? And my household income isn’t even 18k sweat.gif
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Concrete will last long after you perish! That said the good option nowadays is using 2x2 tiles as countertop with concrete structure. Some of these tiles are nice enough.

KV houses are becoming unaffordable. My one legacy to my kids are they will have a nice home and not to worry about buying a house immediately. They can drive proton if they are not capable! 🤣
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Hi guys.. My sink, cooking hob (use gas, plan to put on top) and dry kitchen cabinets are all separated from each other. Initially, I planned to install quartz top. was quoted 6.6K total for both. (without the dry ktichen cabinet)

When I look into the plan, I realized the contractor will cut a big hole on my quartz for my sink, I think it's not worth to pay for that, I will lose a big piece of quartz!

Planning to switch to concrete + tiles instead for both sink section and cooking hob section. Can I know both of your opinion? Will it save more?

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I was quoted 30k for full nyatoh. Below is the quotation:

- kabinet bawah solid nyatoh+  steel body+ quartz stone + riser concrete with mossaic finishing 29 kaki  =rm9850
- kabinet atas solid nyatoh full body =rm14840
-tall unit fridge+micro wave compartment+cabinet  6200

Is it okey? I got three quotation, 30k, 30k and another one 50k

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If kitchen length is 12ft/13ft and width is 10ft..posible to has small island in the middle or at the side (U shaped)?
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Hi guys.. My sink, cooking hob (use gas, plan to put on top) and dry kitchen cabinets are all separated from each other. Initially, I planned to install quartz top. was quoted 6.6K total for both. (without the dry ktichen cabinet)

When I look into the plan, I realized the contractor will cut a big hole on my quartz for my sink, I think it's not worth to pay for that, I will lose a big piece of quartz!

Planning to switch to concrete + tiles instead for both sink section and cooking hob section. Can I know both of your opinion? Will it save more?
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How big is your sink that warrant such concern? My granite sink was more than 800mm long and I still pay for that "gap" or hole. I am sure you can ask that piece of quartz back if you want but nobody does that.

Of course concrete plus tiles will be cheaper. You save on cabinet cost and tiles are definitely cheaper than quartz top. However, while tiles are tough quartz are tougher. In addition tiles now may come 2x2 and 4x2 so u will likely see grout lines. Some people may not like it.

Concrete will last forever but workmanship is important.
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ May 10 2020, 04:19 AM)
How big is your sink that warrant such concern? My granite sink was more than 800mm long and I still pay for that "gap" or hole. I am sure you can ask that piece of quartz back if you want but nobody does that.

Of course concrete plus tiles will be cheaper. You save on cabinet cost and tiles are definitely cheaper than quartz top. However, while tiles are tough quartz are tougher. In addition tiles now may come 2x2 and 4x2 so u will likely see grout lines. Some people may not like it.

Concrete will last forever but workmanship is important.
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Looking at the same Blanco as yours, should be 860x500 or cheaper Teka 890x500

My counter for sink is 1625 x 600mm, if I can save about RM1.5K, I can upgrade my sink.

grout lines are the sacrifices, have to find big tiles like 600 x 600mm to cover, pure white, hopefully the lines are less obvious.

feasible choice?
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Looking at the same Blanco as yours, should be 860x500 or cheaper Teka 890x500

My counter for sink is 1625 x 600mm, if I can save about RM1.5K, I can upgrade my sink.

grout lines are the sacrifices, have to find big tiles like 600 x 600mm to cover, pure white, hopefully the lines are less obvious.

feasible choice?
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600x600 are decent priced now. If you want there are 4'x2' but those are more expensive. There are some really nice designs now including white with patterns. Pure white is classic nice but may be a bit boring? This is very individual though.

Get a good technical porcelain tiles. Best grade as they are more uniform and consistent. Otherwise your tiler kung Fu has to be good.
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600x600 are decent priced now. If you want there are 4'x2' but those are more expensive. There are some really nice designs now including white with patterns. Pure white is classic nice but may be a bit boring? This is very individual though.

Get a good technical porcelain tiles. Best grade as they are more uniform and consistent. Otherwise your tiler kung Fu has to be good.
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Hi all sifus,

I just got my house keys not long ago before MCO and i guess its time to start my renovation work now. I'm just wondering whether it is a wise choice to engage an ID just to furnish my living room and bedroom while kitchen, both wet and dry will be done by another kitchen specialist, e.g. Unity Kitchen, Intech, etc?

This is because the total combined cost of wet (around 3m bottom) & dry kitchen (L-Shape with 1.8m x 2m) is around RM60k, which I think is neither expensive or cheap because they're using solid wood for dry kitchen and Granite for wet kitchen, materials are plywood.

Just thought of comparing around, but more importantly is whether it is a good idea to segregate the jobs in that manner as coordination could be an issue. Appreciate advise from fellow sifus rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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hi, is it possible to get a kitchen cabinet for under 4k? just want to find a basic one for rental purpose w sink n plumbing include
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hi, is it possible to get a kitchen cabinet for  under 4k? just want to find a basic one for rental purpose  w sink n plumbing include
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Hi all sifus,

I just got my house keys not long ago before MCO and i guess its time to start my renovation work now. I'm just wondering whether it is a wise choice to engage an ID just to furnish my living room and bedroom while kitchen, both wet and dry will be done by another kitchen specialist, e.g. Unity Kitchen, Intech, etc?

This is because the total combined cost of wet (around 3m bottom) & dry kitchen (L-Shape with 1.8m x 2m) is around RM60k, which I think is neither expensive or cheap because they're using solid wood for dry kitchen and Granite for wet kitchen, materials are plywood.

Just thought of comparing around, but more importantly is whether it is a good idea to segregate the jobs in that manner as coordination could be an issue. Appreciate advise from fellow sifus rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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the ID is someone i knew and yet to decide on the kitchen specialist cos i'm still figuring out is this even a good idea in the first place
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the ID is someone i knew and yet to decide on the kitchen specialist cos i'm still figuring out is this even a good idea in the first place
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Thanks.. also looking for carpenter who uses plywood instead of chipboard.. but I think may be out of my league.

If all chipboard I may go for Ikea instead. At least it looks nicer..
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Hi all, I’m currently searching for KC specialist company to design my upcoming new condo unit.

Job scope:
1) Wardrobe
2) TV Cabinet
3) Laundry Cabinet
4) Shoe Cabinet
5) Custom-made Cabinet on Kitchen Island

As what I have read through the comments in this forum, I have shortlisted several companies which shows some potential as below. Please feel free to comment if you have any past experience with them or even share with me. That would really help me out in choosing one of them.

List of KC companies:
1) Unity Kitchen
2) Bespoke Kitchen (Formerly knows as Homemark)
3) Tivolli Design
4) Golden Carpentry
5) Verra Kitchen
6) Intech Kitchen
7) Rowenda Kitchen
8) Legend Kitchen

P/S: I don’t mind paying as long as the quality and workmanship is good. Basically the whole process from designing, installation and after sales will be smooth.
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My reply is a bit late but to add to the list you can also check out:
1. Signature Kitchen (they do a very professional job, will recommend them over and over)
2. Buenos Kitchen
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Hi sifu, im planning to renovate my kitchen and i need some advice on the cabinet material. Anyone used pvc foam boards to construct the kc? Went to a kc supplier and saw this type of boards floating in a pool of water. Tried to search here, seems an agent did try to promote this material here. Whats your take on this?
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QUOTE(hahakat88 @ May 18 2020, 03:52 PM)
Thanks.. also looking for carpenter who uses plywood instead of chipboard.. but I think may be out of my league.

If all chipboard I may go for Ikea instead. At least it looks nicer..
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If you want solid wood, you can check with one carpenter by the name of Cubix in FB. I find that his price is very competitive compare to the mainstream KC seller. And when I visited his factory for detail discussion, I saw the workmanship of unpainted door cabinets were quite fine and the factory was quite clean and organized compared to industry standard. I sometimes judge a product by how the owner took care of the factory laugh.gif

But his melamine products are quite expensive vs market. I guess he purposely do that since his speciality is solid wood and don’t really want to take melamine order sweat.gif
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 6 2020, 02:13 PM)
If you want solid wood, you can check with one carpenter by the name of Cubix in FB. I find that his price is very competitive compare to the mainstream KC seller. And when I visited his factory for detail discussion, I saw the workmanship of unpainted door cabinets were quite fine and the factory was quite clean and organized compared to industry standard. I sometimes judge a product by how the owner took care of the factory laugh.gif

But his melamine products are quite expensive vs market. I guess he purposely do that since his speciality is solid wood and don’t really want to take melamine order sweat.gif
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Thank you very much, unfortunately this is in Shah Alarm. Visited his FB page and indeed the photos look good!

Im in Penang, but this is very good contact for future in case anyone needs it!
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What's your quartz thickness guys?

China Quartz 1.5cm Vs Silestone 1.2Cm

Do u guys go for 2CM?
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Hi Guys,

Initially I was going for induction cooker but after discussion and further research, we plan to opt for a gas stove instead. Now the second part I need to figure out is to where to put my gas tank. As you can see from the photo below, the KC maker suggest to put at the most corner side with the gas hose concealed in the wall. However, I have done the wirings on the wall and do not plan to hack my kitchen wall anymore. Will there be any concern or danger if I put the gas tank on the left side of my built in oven instead?
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Hi Guys,

Initially I was going for induction cooker but after discussion and further research, we plan to opt for a gas stove instead. Now the second part I need to figure out is to where to put my gas tank. As you can see from the photo below, the KC maker suggest to put at the most corner side with the gas hose concealed in the wall. However, I have done the wirings on the wall and do not plan to hack my kitchen wall anymore. Will there be any concern or danger if I put the gas tank on the left side of my built in oven instead?
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Gas hose conceal.. maybe not good leh if leaking hard to replace?

Or is it metal one?
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Gas hose conceal.. maybe not good leh if leaking hard to replace?

Or is it metal one?
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Metal. Typically steel or copper. But definitely you need ST certified contractor to do it. Not something you want to skimp on. I also planning to do that kind of arrangement. But I couldn't get any information who can do it and how much would it costs.

I am also exploring the idea of using direct piping from Gas Malaysia. But very limited information available in the internet. I wanted to know how the connection looks like for landed houses.
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Metal. Typically steel or copper. But definitely you need ST certified contractor to do it. Not something you want to skimp on. I also planning to do that kind of arrangement. But I couldn't get any information who can do it and how much would it costs.

I am also exploring the idea of using direct piping from Gas Malaysia. But very limited information available in the internet. I wanted to know how the connection looks like for landed houses.
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If u want copper then a plumber can do it. just make sure it doesn't leak then it should be fine. Make sure he do pressure test after work done.

A ST certified contractor just for gas piping will definitely mark up skyrocket.

Dont think Gas Malaysia provide new piping for old landed houses unless it it new development. Last time I did a show unit in Putrajaya and it has direct piping.

To remove or relocate it is pain in the ass, Gas Malaysia or panel contractor need to come by themselves to do just minor works and you need to wait and wait.

Long story short. Gas tank is better
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QUOTE(KaLs @ Jun 16 2020, 06:00 PM)
If u want copper then a plumber can do it. just make sure it doesn't leak then it should be fine. Make sure he do pressure test after work done.

A ST certified contractor just for gas piping will definitely mark up skyrocket.

Dont think Gas Malaysia provide new piping for old landed houses unless it it new development. Last time I did a show unit in Putrajaya and it has direct piping.

To remove or relocate it is pain in the ass, Gas Malaysia or panel contractor need to come by themselves to do just minor works and you need to wait and wait.

Long story short. Gas tank is better
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You need welded joints for concealed copper fuel gas piping. I don't trust malaysian plumber doing welded joints even for hot water plumbing, I don't think I can trust them doing welding for gas piping sweat.gif

My house is a new development, but I don't see any Gas Malaysia underground piping signboard around. I guess the piping doesn't cross my housing area and most likely there is no supply there. I guess I have to stick with gas tank. Maybe a gas detector will do for safety.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 16 2020, 06:13 PM)
You need welded joints for concealed copper fuel gas piping. I don't trust malaysian plumber doing welded joints even for hot water plumbing, I don't think I can trust them doing welding for gas piping  sweat.gif

My house is a new development, but I don't see any Gas Malaysia underground piping signboard around. I guess the piping doesn't cross my housing area and most likely there is no supply there. I guess I have to stick with gas tank. Maybe a gas detector will do for safety.
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Anyway direct pipe will never be good. Water bill, electric bill, internet bill and now gas bill. rclxub.gif
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Anyway direct pipe will never be good. Water bill, electric bill, internet bill and now gas bill.  rclxub.gif
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Safety wise, direct feed is better than having tank in your house. I am more concerned about safety than the bills, hence why I am finding ideas to mitigate the risks.
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Is the pull out faucet like this recommended?
Can it last long?

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Is the pull out faucet like this recommended?
Can it last long?

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Good luck cleaning the hose. Pull out with hidden hose would be the better option.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 16 2020, 11:48 PM)
Good luck cleaning the hose. Pull out with hidden hose would be the better option.
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Anyone has any feedback on My Yellowstone? Considering to do kitchen cabinet with them since they have a wide selection of quartz countertop.
They're less than a year on Facebook and can't really tell much based on their Google reviews.

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Safety wise, direct feed is better than having tank in your house. I am more concerned about safety than the bills, hence why I am finding ideas to mitigate the risks.
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For my new house, the kitchen is directly next to the backyard. I see many neighbours placing their gas cylinders outside the house at the yard and drill a small hole through the wall to let the hose in. Some build a metal cage outside to contain the gas cylinder. I'm not sure if this helps lower the risk of gas leaking inside the house or exploding but I'm also considering this option.
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QUOTE(Hatikva @ Jun 18 2020, 11:55 PM)
For my new house, the kitchen is directly next to the backyard. I see many neighbours placing their gas cylinders outside the house at the yard and drill a small hole through the wall to let the hose in. Some build a metal cage outside to contain the gas cylinder. I'm not sure if this helps lower the risk of gas leaking inside the house or exploding but I'm also considering this option.
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Yes. That would significantly reduce the risk of combustion of leaked gas (at the regulator head) and the shorter the hose inside the house, the lesser the overall risk of leakage. Make sure the area is shaded as you don’t want the gas tank to be exposed to the weather.
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The first cabinet Expo from Tivolli this year. The discount is up to 70%. And Tivolli recently UPGRADE 10 years warranty to LIFE TIME GUARANTEE. If you don’t know how to build a dream house. You are welcome to visit us in these three days. Because all customers who order in these three days, We will Free ID services for first 50 customers. Don't miss the opportunity to build your dream house at a lower price. Let us use our whole life to maintain your comfortable life.

Location:Tivolli Design Puchong showroom Address:149-1& 149-2, Block J, Tanming Boulevard, Jalan Meranti Jaya 3/1, Taman Meranti Jaya,47120 Puchong,Selangor.
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Hi guys,

Just got my kitchen done and like to share some pictures of my humble little kitchen - aluminium cabinet with quartz top smile.gif

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Can provide contractor details pls. thanks.
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Yes. That would significantly reduce the risk of combustion of leaked gas (at the regulator head) and the shorter the hose inside the house, the lesser the overall risk of leakage. Make sure the area is shaded as you don’t want the gas tank to be exposed to the weather.
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That's true. I'm also trying to see how I can protect the gas tank from the elements. The area is shaded but may get wet if there is torrential rain. Hopefully an outdoor blind can help. Thanks.
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Anyone use a contractor name Danson ? his fb https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Int...02316227855621/

reliable ?
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Aluminium should be more expensive than wood. I am scouting around to do my Kitchen as well. More leaning towards getting aluminium with blum drawers etc.
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It's more expensive but not as expensive before. When I bought this house want to do aluminum cabinet but quoted then about 2x then normal wood. Now after 15 yrs the wood cabinet is infested with termites and I redo the whole thing with aluminum this time. Still more expensive then wood but not as much and as I live on landed property termite problem will recur
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May I know software/apps do you all use when designing kitchen?
Is it possible with 15k Budget for a small galley kitchen 7x2.5 feet on each side?

Thank you

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May I know software/apps do you all use when designing kitchen?
Is it possible with 15k Budget for a small galley kitchen 7x2.5 feet on each side?

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hi guys, do u guys look out for 4g or 3g door?
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hi guys...looking for most affordable and good carpentry company ..any to recommend? KC already have,,,but wanna add those accessories only.
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Anyone has any feedback on My Yellowstone? Considering to do kitchen cabinet with them since they have a wide selection of quartz countertop.
They're less than a year on Facebook and can't really tell much based on their Google reviews.

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Is it true that any panel that has more than 8ft will have joint for the laminate? According to my carpenter, normally laminate comes in 4ft x 8ft, so any height more than 8ft need to joint 2 laminate sheets.
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What’s the going rate for Aluminium top & bottom cabinet?
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hi..did u go with yellowstone? How was it?
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Their design looked pretty good, but since I wasn't able to get any actual feedback on them I decided to continue looking around and asking friends for recommendations. It's not cheap to get cabinets done and it's hard to commit without knowing how good their work is
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QUOTE(mimi_lk @ Jul 8 2020, 09:59 AM)
Their design looked pretty good, but since I wasn't able to get any actual feedback on them I decided to continue looking around and asking friends for recommendations. It's not cheap to get cabinets done and it's hard to commit without knowing how good their work is
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wondering why the tall unit quite expensive, what's the design and how high is the tall unit, 10ft?

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wondering why the tall unit quite expensive, what's the design and how high is the tall unit, 10ft?
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The kc not yet done since my kitchen under reno for extension. Thia one eatimated only and probably 9 feet tall
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Hi everyone,just wondering if melamine kitchen top are good enough for budget kitchen cabinet?are they durable enough for let say 10 years period?
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Hi everyone,just wondering if melamine kitchen top are good enough for budget kitchen cabinet?are they durable enough for let say 10 years period?
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it should work well enough but don't keep it soaking with water, you can get a 8ft one for just rm250 - https://www.ikea.com/my/en/p/ekbacken-workt...60aAiRqEALw_wcB

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hi guys, do u guys look out for 4g or 3g door?
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plywood laminate vs melamine ABS price difference usually how much in terms of % ?

plywood better right? how about the aesthetics ya

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plywood laminate vs melamine ABS price difference usually how much in terms of % ?

plywood better right? how about the aesthetics ya
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Yes plywood laminated more durable and resistant to water.

But melamine looks good too as long as you rajin sikit keep it dry all the time and melamine shall be 12 to 15% cheaper if without consider the accessories and hardware.


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Hi guys,

I at Starling Mall's home expo seen Allmilmo Kitchen Design's promo package.
Pricing is very tempting and the display kitchen cabinet/wardrobe quality looks promising.
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Their facebook/official web looks newly setup only and no review.
Facebook = https://www.facebook.com/allmilmo/
Official = http://allkd.my/

I want to ask is this too good to be true?
Have anyone tried them before and how's the quality and experience?

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QUOTE(Ching Aik @ Jul 28 2020, 05:11 PM)
Hi guys,

I at Starling Mall's home expo seen Allmilmo Kitchen Design's promo package.
Pricing is very tempting and the display kitchen cabinet/wardrobe quality looks promising.
user posted image

Their facebook/official web looks newly setup only and no review.
Facebook = https://www.facebook.com/allmilmo/
Official = http://allkd.my/

I want to ask is this too good to be true?
Have anyone tried them before and how's the quality and experience?

Regards
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QUOTE(Ching Aik @ Jul 28 2020, 05:11 PM)
Hi guys,

I at Starling Mall's home expo seen Allmilmo Kitchen Design's promo package.
Pricing is very tempting and the display kitchen cabinet/wardrobe quality looks promising.
user posted image

Their facebook/official web looks newly setup only and no review.
Facebook = https://www.facebook.com/allmilmo/
Official = http://allkd.my/

I want to ask is this too good to be true?
Have anyone tried them before and how's the quality and experience?

Regards
ChingAik
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make sure ask them to write you the size ( length especially ) for the kitchen top and also bottom cabinets, are top hang cabinet also 20 feet long I doubt.

Also the cabinet cascade and doors materials of course, I think they will be melamine base. check if the door provided is 3G, 4G, acrylic, colour glass, etc as different door type cost quite different.
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They request full payment then only start working.

I just found their website address/contact same as a company named LSS Kitchen Design.

Quite a few people mentioned bad experience with LSS, guess they are same company but changed name to reset reputation then continue operate.
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QUOTE(Ching Aik @ Jul 29 2020, 02:18 PM)
They request full payment then only start working.

I just found their website address/contact same as a company named LSS Kitchen Design.

Quite a few people mentioned bad experience with LSS, guess they are same company but changed name to reset reputation then continue operate.
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Better avoid it then..
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A peninsula that seats 3 people or a small dining table for 4 in a kitchen, which one will you choose?

A peninsula will costs 3k more in my case.
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Can I ask when do you guys start engaging the contractor for kitchen cabinet? Do you guys ask them to come to perform onsite measurement only after you get the keys for your house?
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Can I ask when do you guys start engaging the contractor for kitchen cabinet? Do you guys ask them to come to perform onsite measurement only after you get the keys for your house?
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On-site measurement ofc need wait get keys first ba else how to enter sweat.gif
But I start engage diff contractors before VP to survey the materials and price

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On-site measurement ofc need wait get keys first ba else how to enter sweat.gif
But I start engage diff contractors before VP to survey the materials and price
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Yes I understand. I am also engaging different contractors now on the pricing, right now they can only give me an indicative quotation.

Maybe I will shortlist into 2-3 contractors and ask them to perform onsite measurement and compare their quotation after that.
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Anyone know where can i build 100% stainless steel type of open type kitchen cabinet like those in the restaurant?

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How long is too long for kitchen cabinet to be installed?
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Have anyone try IKEA's cabinet?
Is their quality good?

@solsekuin44
I see they offer delivery + installation at extra cost, it is pre-made item so it is expected to fully install within same delivery day.
Not sure about customize cabinet though.
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Can i install ikea kitchen cabinet but for the table top i choose outside from KC maker?
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Can i install ikea kitchen cabinet but for the table top i choose outside from KC maker?
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Yes you can.

I am doing that right now everything except the back splash plates and work top are IKEA.

My worktop and back splash plate comes from the same supplier as IKEA but is 25% cheaper minus the 25 year warranty.
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Aug 16 2020, 10:32 AM)
Can I ask when do you guys start engaging the contractor for kitchen cabinet? Do you guys ask them to come to perform onsite measurement only after you get the keys for your house?
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After you have keys and if you are doing any renovations in the kitchen such as tiling, plumbing, extensions or electrical then it should be after it is over.

QUOTE(solsekuin44 @ Aug 17 2020, 10:41 AM)
How long is too long for kitchen cabinet to be installed?
Mine started on July 4th, still waiting to be completed T-T
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Measurement to complete installation should not be more than 3 to 4 weeks, allow for 12 weeks if it is one of the luxury German or Italian branded kitchen cabinets.

QUOTE(Ching Aik @ Aug 17 2020, 11:00 AM)
Have anyone try IKEA's cabinet?
Is their quality good?

@solsekuin44
I see they offer delivery + installation at extra cost, it is pre-made item so it is expected to fully install within same delivery day.
Not sure about customize cabinet though.
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It is good quality for the price but if you are installing it on your own then you must definitely know what you are doing and also have the right tools for the job.

Overall as long as you clean up spills and keep it somewhat dry then it will last 20 years without any issues.

One of our houses was fitted with IKEA cabinets in 1999 and it is still in good condition.
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QUOTE(Ching Aik @ Aug 17 2020, 11:00 AM)
Have anyone try IKEA's cabinet?
Is their quality good?

@solsekuin44
I see they offer delivery + installation at extra cost, it is pre-made item so it is expected to fully install within same delivery day.
Not sure about customize cabinet though.
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Pretty good, I installed myself and it works fine. I like the options to upgrade the soft close drawers, and customisation options.

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Can i install ikea kitchen cabinet but for the table top i choose outside from KC maker?
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Yes should be possible. The mounting L brackets of your own countertop (to secure the top to the base cabinet) need to be obtained as well. You can order the top separately from those countertop stone supplier.

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How long is too long for kitchen cabinet to be installed?
Mine started on July 4th, still waiting to be completed T-T
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4th July started installing or 4th July started fabrication?

If 4th July started installing then that would be unusually looooong..
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 17 2020, 04:19 PM)
Yes you can.

I am doing that right now everything except the back splash plates and work top are IKEA.

My worktop and back splash plate comes from the same supplier as IKEA but is 25% cheaper minus the 25 year warranty.
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Thanks. Sadly that ikea kc kind of high for me. So have to choose kc contractor. I like ikea kc compartment. Is it possible for me to use their drawer etc into kc from kc maker?
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 17 2020, 06:53 PM)
Pretty good, I installed myself and it works fine. I like the options to upgrade the soft close drawers, and customisation options.
Yes should be possible. The mounting L brackets of your own countertop (to secure the top to the base cabinet) need to be obtained as well. You can order the top separately from those countertop stone supplier.
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Hi ceo684, too bad ikea kc is high for me sad.gif

Im actually really like ikea kc compartment. Can i use their system into kc built by contractor?
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QUOTE(aleyna58 @ Aug 17 2020, 08:59 PM)
Thanks. Sadly that ikea kc kind of high for me. So have to choose kc contractor. I like ikea kc compartment. Is it possible for me to use their drawer etc into kc from kc maker?
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Yes their cabinets are higher than the locally made ones to cater for their cabinets being designed to an international standard.

You definitely can buy the doors, drawers as well as their hinges and fit it to one made by a KC contractor.

One of the houses my family owns did exactly just this, we liked the oak finishing for the doors, drawers and hinges but we did not care much for the white coloured particle board frames, therefore we bought what we needed and had a contractor build us the frames out of solid cengal wood to the exact dimensions of IKEA cabinets.


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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 17 2020, 04:19 PM)
Yes you can.

I am doing that right now everything except the back splash plates and work top are IKEA.

My worktop and back splash plate comes from the same supplier as IKEA but is 25% cheaper minus the 25 year warranty.
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Hi, kindly pm where you got your backsplash from. Thanks.

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QUOTE(aleyna58 @ Aug 17 2020, 09:02 PM)
Hi ceo684, too bad ikea kc is high for me sad.gif

Im actually really like ikea kc compartment. Can i use their system into kc built by contractor?
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You can ask the installer to minus off the height about 6-8cm (i.e. using without plinth, and mount the rail lower for ikea base cabinets because there is a gap for the plinth/plastic legs) i.e. mount it so that the cabinets are floating with a height of 1-2cm from floor.

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Hi all,

Sharing with u my draft quotation (not finalized yet) based on draft design for my dry KC. Appreciate sifu's review here whether the price is okay for the material/design or whether i have been duped with premium price.

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Total cost estimate: RM19,787.

This is not the final quotation yet. Will be going to the showroom to finalize the material/color/design.

Appreciate your comment.



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Have anyone here have experienced with HDF door kitchen cabinet. Its better then MDF. Its have unique shape that looks like wood cabinet.
I heard poeple said ikea cabinet also HDF.
Recently I got quote on 4g glass cabinet, but once i change the door material to HDF, the price increased around Rm1800 for 21 feet cabinet.
Just like to know that 4g cheaper compare to this HDF?
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 17 2020, 04:19 PM)
Yes you can.

I am doing that right now everything except the back splash plates and work top are IKEA.

My worktop and back splash plate comes from the same supplier as IKEA but is 25% cheaper minus the 25 year warranty.
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Can please share where you got the worktop and backsplash from? What type of work top did you get?

Thanks
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QUOTE(brobro @ Aug 20 2020, 05:58 PM)
Hi all,

Sharing with u my draft quotation (not finalized yet) based on draft design for my dry KC. Appreciate sifu's review here whether the price is okay for the material/design or whether i have been duped with premium price.

Layout view:
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3D view:
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Quotation:
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Total cost estimate: RM19,787.

This is not the final quotation yet. Will be going to the showroom to finalize the material/color/design.

Appreciate your comment.
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You may want to clarify what kind of wood they use under the lamination. There are many type of laminated wood that will influence the price.
RM19k seems fair to me.

If you will like to get a comparison quote do drop me a PM or whats app at 0164442413. I can provide you free 3ds even you not choose to build by me. Thank you


QUOTE(arerife @ Aug 23 2020, 07:55 AM)
Have anyone here have experienced with HDF door kitchen cabinet. Its better then MDF. Its have unique shape that looks like wood cabinet.
I heard poeple said ikea cabinet also HDF.
Recently I got quote on 4g glass cabinet, but once i change the door material to HDF, the price increased around Rm1800 for 21 feet cabinet.
Just like to know that 4g cheaper compare to this HDF?
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HDF is stronger and more water resistant than MDF. HDF normally have a density of more than 800kg/m3 while MDF normally will have 600-800kg/m3 density
4g glass is pricier than HDF door cabinet due to 4g glass use glass while HDF is fibre board.

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You may want to clarify what kind of wood they use under the lamination. There are many type of laminated wood that will influence the price.
RM19k seems fair to me.

If you will like to get a comparison quote do drop me a PM or whats app at 0164442413. I can provide you free 3ds even you not choose to build by me. Thank you
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For carcass, standard melamine with ABS edging...
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QUOTE(Asquith @ Aug 17 2020, 04:19 PM)
Yes you can.

I am doing that right now everything except the back splash plates and work top are IKEA.

My worktop and back splash plate comes from the same supplier as IKEA but is 25% cheaper minus the 25 year warranty.
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Can share me which back splash u using and the contact number pls?
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QUOTE(brobro @ Aug 31 2020, 10:32 PM)
For carcass, standard melamine with ABS edging...
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If this material I think your price is high side
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QUOTE(Lefty @ Sep 1 2020, 05:20 PM)
If this material I think your price is high side
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Actually, i have changed the top to marble and backsplash to black glass mirror. Also I add on fancy transparent display shelves (opening-up type) plus few custom kitchen accesories like double trashbin and plate rack with drip pan. Surprisingly my final quotation is still around RM20K. (The marble top itself is around RM8K for 17ft run).

Not sure it is still high side now or not but the previous quotation was made high I believe. The final quotation I have now is after finalizing the plan with our KC contractor.
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QUOTE(arerife @ Aug 23 2020, 07:55 AM)
Have anyone here have experienced with HDF door kitchen cabinet. Its better then MDF. Its have unique shape that looks like wood cabinet.
I heard poeple said ikea cabinet also HDF.
Recently I got quote on 4g glass cabinet, but once i change the door material to HDF, the price increased around Rm1800 for 21 feet cabinet.
Just like to know that 4g cheaper compare to this HDF?
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IKEA does not use HDF for the Metod kitchen cabinets. It is MDF.

4G glass finish for the cabinet fronts will always be more expensive.

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For carcass, standard melamine with ABS edging...
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QUOTE(brobro @ Sep 2 2020, 03:05 AM)
Actually, i have changed the top to marble and backsplash to black glass mirror. Also I add on fancy transparent display shelves (opening-up type) plus few custom kitchen accesories like double trashbin and plate rack with drip pan. Surprisingly my final quotation is still around RM20K. (The marble top itself is around RM8K for 17ft run).

Not sure it is still high side now or not but the previous quotation was made high I believe. The final quotation I have now is after finalizing the plan with our KC contractor.
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Do you mean it Rm20k inclusive of the marble top? If yes I think the price is fair enough
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QUOTE(Lefty @ Sep 2 2020, 09:54 AM)
Do you mean it Rm20k inclusive of the marble top? If yes I think the price is fair enough
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Yes include marble top. The previous quotation was just estimate. After finalizing my top material and design, it is still around RM20K so i guess the price is indeed fair.
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Is it more cost saving if we are planning our kitchen with full Ikea stuff and cabinets?

Or hire a contractor to custom made kitchen cabinet?
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Wanna ask.
Is it more cost saving if we are planning our kitchen with full Ikea stuff and cabinets?

Or hire a contractor to custom made kitchen cabinet?
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Which material would you choose between MDF and Nyatoh for the kitchen cabinet? My contractor has both materials.
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Which material would you choose between MDF and Nyatoh for the kitchen cabinet? My contractor has both materials.
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plywood or blockboard for carcass , only using mdf or nyatoh for door only
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Wanna ask.
Is it more cost saving if we are planning our kitchen with full Ikea stuff and cabinets?

Or hire a contractor to custom made kitchen cabinet?
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My most recent kitchen is a 2.2m wide kitchen, inclusive of a built in refrigerator, oven, microwave oven and dishwasher.

It cost me RM7.3k inclusive of the quartz top and acrylic back splash. I am using solid wood doors and drawer fronts.

I did not find a custom kitchen that could do it for less than RM9k and the quality of it was questionable at best.

IKEA cabinets because of its joinery system tend to be sturdier than the locally fabricated ones that are lower priced.

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Which material would you choose between MDF and Nyatoh for the kitchen cabinet? My contractor has both materials.
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I am going to assume it is for the frames, if you have the budget and will live in the house for long term then nyatoh. Otherwise MDF is just fine.
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My most recent kitchen is a 2.2m wide kitchen, inclusive of a built in refrigerator, oven, microwave oven and dishwasher.

It cost me RM7.3k inclusive of the quartz top and acrylic back splash. I am using solid wood doors and drawer fronts.

I did not find a custom kitchen that could do it for less than RM9k and the quality of it was questionable at best.

IKEA cabinets because of its joinery system tend to be sturdier than the locally fabricated ones that are lower priced.

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I just pay deposit for SCI kitchen and found out their sub con installer actually not that good... Wanted to ask... How about their Cabinet quality? They quote me 8k which includes SINK and TAP + 12ft quartz stone + 12ft base cabinet and 9ft of wall unit.
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Sep 14 2020, 12:08 AM)
I just pay deposit for SCI kitchen and found out their sub con installer actually not that good... Wanted to ask... How about their Cabinet quality? They quote me 8k which includes SINK and TAP + 12ft quartz stone + 12ft base cabinet and 9ft of wall unit.
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base 12 x 175 = 2100
wall 9 x 160 = 1440
quartz 12 x 170 = 2040

sink and tap and drawer = 1000
opening for hood/hob = 300


total 6880 estimated....
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QUOTE(shaoching @ Sep 14 2020, 05:21 PM)
base 12 x 175 = 2100
wall 9 x 160 = 1440
quartz 12 x 170 = 2040

sink and tap and drawer = 1000
opening for hood/hob = 300
total 6880 estimated....
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Lol...u work for SCI..? I got add on plywood on all the door hence abit exp and aluminium skirting..
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Lol...u work for SCI..? I got add on plywood on all the door hence abit exp and aluminium skirting..
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no la, just to let u know the estimated market price is quite fair enough
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QUOTE(shaoching @ Sep 14 2020, 05:28 PM)
no la, just to let u know the estimated market price is quite fair enough
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Yes, no question on their pricing. But abit consent on their Installation after I view so much bad review about them.
Additionally, their quote me the labor of relocation (lower down few inches) of the drain and plug point is quite reasonable. About the material i think shouldn't too expensive.

Plus they using E1 board.. somesort of recycle material but environment friendly board.. market strategy kot..

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QUOTE(shaoching @ Sep 14 2020, 05:21 PM)
base 12 x 175 = 2100
wall 9 x 160 = 1440
quartz 12 x 170 = 2040

sink and tap and drawer = 1000
opening for hood/hob = 300
total 6880 estimated....
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Price is quite reasonable. However quality is unknown.
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Price is quite reasonable. However quality is unknown.
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Can use ba..even signature kitchen also use melamine board.
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Hi all, from the thread, i cant find anyone doing review for Wooot Carpenter. Anyone here hv experience with them? I cant decide between Wooot Carpenter and Signature kitchen. In terms of pricing, Wooot is cheaper, but in terms of warranty and hinges, Signature is better
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Hi all, from the thread, i cant find anyone doing review for Wooot Carpenter. Anyone here hv experience with them? I cant decide between Wooot Carpenter and Signature kitchen. In terms of pricing, Wooot is cheaper, but in terms of warranty and hinges, Signature is better
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Signature provide 10 years warranty.. but you need to understand what is their T&C..
I get quote 12FT cabinet + 9ft wall + 12ft quartz by Signature almost 14k without SINK, TAP, HOD and HOOD.

Going for SCI cabinet same thing almost 9K + some accesories and eletrician + Plumber works, + SINK TAP HOD and HOOD almost 12.5k.

But workmanship no idea as alot review say it is sucks.
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QUOTE(shyan90's @ Sep 18 2020, 04:58 PM)
Signature provide 10 years warranty.. but you need to understand what is their T&C..
I get quote 12FT cabinet + 9ft wall + 12ft quartz by Signature almost 14k without SINK, TAP, HOD and HOOD.

Going for SCI cabinet same thing almost 9K + some accesories and eletrician + Plumber works, + SINK TAP HOD and HOOD almost 12.5k.

But workmanship no idea as alot review say it is sucks.
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As my understanding, all company will provide warranty on things other than wear and tear. I can bear with that. Things i like bout Signature is the inside of the cabinet-got texture (seems laminated), hence why i considering them. And they r giving freebies too atm.

Yup i read SCI workmanship sucks. So far no one ever complains regarding Wooot, their pricing is quite good tho.
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As my understanding, all company will provide warranty on things other than wear and tear. I can bear with that. Things i like bout Signature is the inside of the cabinet-got texture (seems laminated), hence why i considering them. And they r giving freebies too atm.

Yup i read SCI workmanship sucks. So far no one ever complains regarding Wooot, their pricing is quite good tho.
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My parents house use Signature Kitchen. So far only issue is the door below sink there start "kembang" already...other than that no issue at all.

I just make the final confirmation with SCI yesterday and what they claim that previously they got outsource but very troublesome. They can arrange their in house installer however it might need to wait .
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My parents house use Signature Kitchen. So far only issue is the door below sink there start "kembang" already...other than that no issue at all.

I just make the final confirmation with SCI yesterday and what they claim that previously they got outsource but very troublesome. They can arrange their in house installer however it might need to wait .
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Are u very satisfied with the Signature cabinet? Or so so? How long hv u been using that cabinet?
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Are u very satisfied with the Signature cabinet? Or so so? How long hv u been using that cabinet?
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This kitchen built 10 years ago. So far only the cabinet door under the sink have some "kembang" other wise all still in good condition. Suggest you upgrade the cabinet door under sink to have better to avoid this...
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This kitchen built 10 years ago. So far only the cabinet door under the sink have some "kembang" other wise all still in good condition. Suggest you upgrade the cabinet door under sink to have better to avoid this...
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Noted2. What about insects? Termites and cockroaches? Same as other cabinet?
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Noted2. What about insects? Termites and cockroaches? Same as other cabinet?
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Itu dont have oh...depends the way you clean up gua..
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Hi all, from the thread, i cant find anyone doing review for Wooot Carpenter. Anyone here hv experience with them? I cant decide between Wooot Carpenter and Signature kitchen. In terms of pricing, Wooot is cheaper, but in terms of warranty and hinges, Signature is better
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I tried to ask for quotation from woot, but they gave me some dumb designer who don’t even read the basic design requirement that I spelled out in my sketch, which was pretty details already. End up she’s asking questions which she doesn’t need to even ask.

She can’t even differentiate between an island and peninsula doh.gif

End up she didn’t reply me at all after I asked her to read back the sketch I gave her. Shit service even before it begins.

There are plenty of better companies out there since you even have budget for signature kitchen.

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I tried to ask for quotation from woot, but they gave me some dumb designer who don’t even read the basic design requirement that I spelled out in my sketch, which was pretty details already. End up she’s asking questions which she doesn’t need to even ask.

She can’t even differentiate between an island and peninsula doh.gif

End up she didn’t reply me at all after I asked her to read back the sketch I gave her. Shit service even before it begins.

There are plenty of better companies out there since you even have budget for signature kitchen.
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Thanks for the review. Yes, i admit that the services wasn’t good enough. Late replies and lacks of knowledge on their products. I already placed deposit with Signature and now waiting for key from developer 😀 i hope i made a good decision..
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QUOTE(fleur_cherie @ Sep 27 2020, 03:55 PM)
Thanks for the review. Yes, i admit that the services wasn’t good enough. Late replies and lacks of knowledge on their products. I already placed deposit with Signature and now waiting for key from developer 😀 i hope i made a good decision..
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Lack of knowledge was a big turnoff for me. I don’t want to get into trouble later having to guide them like little kids on how I want my KC to be like. I prefer to engage contractor that hire people with actual knowledge.

You can’t go any wrong with signature kitchen, except that you’re paying premium price. But better pay premium price for peace of mind rather than engaging companies like woot and having headache later.
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Lack of knowledge was a big turnoff for me. I don’t want to get into trouble later having to guide them like little kids on how I want my KC to be like. I prefer to engage contractor that hire people with actual knowledge.

You can’t go any wrong with signature kitchen, except that you’re paying premium price. But better pay premium price for peace of mind rather than engaging companies like woot and having headache later.
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Totally agree with u. Peace of mind is what i’m settling for. Hoping that the kitchen cabinet will last me for 20yrs without any issue.
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Gonna install my cabinet tomorrow.. hopefully no issue with the company
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 27 2020, 05:12 PM)
Lack of knowledge was a big turnoff for me. I don’t want to get into trouble later having to guide them like little kids on how I want my KC to be like. I prefer to engage contractor that hire people with actual knowledge.

You can’t go any wrong with signature kitchen, except that you’re paying premium price. But better pay premium price for peace of mind rather than engaging companies like woot and having headache later.
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I thought that was an isolated incident but I had the exact same experience with that KC designer.

They were recommended to me by the contractor that was renovating a neighbouring unit.

Weird she did not know the difference between plywood or plyboard. Then she had trouble reading and following instructions, I specifically mentioned I wanted a worktop that is 638mm and she tells me 600mm is sufficient. I tell her I want all the frames to have a backboard she starts telling me a backboard is not needed as the walls are sufficient.

I gave her the specification for a Bosch built-in refrigerator and she designed it in such a way the spot I told her for the refrigerator she made a tall unit with shelves and placed the refrigerator by where my washer dryer is located.

Eff'ing waste of time to deal with some of these types and I just settled with IKEA>
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Hi Sifu2. Need some advice coz I’m looking into sub sale condo with existing built in Kitchen cabinet with table top but I’m no expert in this. The table tops still looks good but only the sink area the wood doesn’t look good anymore.
1. Instead of tearing the whole thing for a rebuild, can the particular area be refurbished (e.g. change board, etc) ?
2. If I plan to keep the Existing kitchen cabinet but just plan to do retiling of the entire kitchen floor, can the cabinets be temporarily removed for the retiling? Or do you have a better suggestion?
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Ok.. here comes my review to SCI Kitchen..
So far their people is on time and price is reasonable.. They now did not hire any sub-con for the kitchen cabinet installation but install by their own people.
Total damage Rm10k which includes the wall plug reallocate, adding few point, and drain reallocate. Another 1.7k for the Hood and Hob..

Only things I do not like is I wish to adding the ducting pipe however after the kitchen cabinet team done the installation, they seems does not willing to help me to open the hole for ducting pipe and claim that my Hood is high end 1 will clean those recycle air....(Which i not sure it will or not...I buy the Rinnai RH-C94B). I tell them fine and I will trail to cook some 'Si Chuan' hot pot to see whether it can really recycle the air or not..


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Gonna install my cabinet tomorrow.. hopefully no issue with the company
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Any update bro? Would like to see the end result. Maybe you can update on your thread.
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Any update bro? Would like to see the end result. Maybe you can update on your thread.
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Update the post already 😁😁

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Update the post already 😁😁

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Congrats bro. thumbup.gif
Mind if im asking which kc company did you hired and whats the damage costed to your wallet?
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Update the post already 😁😁

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Nice.. It would be nicer if there is an island in the middle. You definitely have enough space for that.. thumbup.gif
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Congrats bro. thumbup.gif 
Mind if im asking which kc company did you hired and whats the damage costed to your wallet?
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Let me answer on his behalf. The KC company named Cubix. Damage? You can check his thread. thumbup.gif
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Let me answer on his behalf. The KC company named Cubix. Damage? You can check his thread.  thumbup.gif
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Tq blanket84

Its around 40k including accessories. W/o hood and sink. Can check my topic for the quotation
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Should be OK since the hinges/drawer rails are normally hidden, in case you find them too contrasty.
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Anyone using high pressure laminate or compact laminate for kitchen countertop? There are many brands in the market these days. What's your personal experience with the material, especially scratch, heat and water resistance?

TIA
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Anyone using high pressure laminate or compact laminate for kitchen countertop? There are many brands in the market these days. What's your personal experience with the material, especially scratch, heat and water resistance?

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First time hearing this, the ones I hear is usually marble, solid surface, granite, quartz, solid wood etc etc.
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Hi all Sifu(s), I recently planning to renovate my condo unit bought through sub sale. As this is my first to do major renovation,l engaged with few contractor/ID to quote the works. This is one of the quotation I received that feel okay. Can I ask your opinion here whether the quote is reasonable or have more room to discuss?
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Hi all Sifu(s), I recently planning to renovate my condo unit bought through sub sale. As this is my first to do major renovation,l engaged with few contractor/ID to quote the works. This is one of the quotation I received that feel okay. Can I ask your opinion here whether the quote is reasonable or have more room to discuss?
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Got up and down..but in short bao ka liao save alot time.

For my simple renovation (Adding 15 wall socket, aircond point, fan point and etc. (All thru wall hacking))Takes around 1 month to finish however it just simple job(Other can be done in 2 weeks..) They charge me 2.1k for all these works.

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Got up and down..but in short bao ka liao save alot time.

For my simple renovation (Adding 15 wall socket, aircond point, fan point and etc. (All thru wall hacking))Takes around 1 month to finish however it just simple job(Other can be done in 2 weeks..) They charge me 2.1k for all these works.
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eh usually now in facebook i see a lot of post of kitchen cabinet less than 5k la 10k la .. what is the catch ah?
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eh usually now in facebook i see a lot of post of kitchen cabinet less than 5k la 10k la .. what is the catch ah?
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Probably cheap melamine, cheap hardware, cheap quartz and etc2.
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Probably cheap melamine, cheap hardware, cheap quartz and etc2.
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they did say melamine etc.. is the difference in thickness only la then right?
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can i get sample from factory? anyone tried it before?

second, anyone know nilam makmur distributor in shah alam/klang and nearby?

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how does this product perform compare to laminated ply/particleboard/mdf)?
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Yea was curious as well, their package and colours seems very tempting! I might go over their place next week to check them out, will update if I do!
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Hmm since so many interested, let me know what sort of questions you would want me to ask. I will generally asking on the pricing ,
psf for bottom cabinet, quartz top as well as top cabinet, what sort of material they are using etc and what is their timing for completion etc.

If you have any specific questions on material etc let me know and I will try to ask as well (since it is beneficial to all)



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Hmm since so many interested, let me know what sort of questions you would want me to ask. I will generally asking on the pricing ,
psf for bottom cabinet, quartz top as well as top cabinet, what sort of material they are using etc and what is their timing for completion etc.

If you have any specific questions on material etc let me know and I will try to ask as well (since it is beneficial to all)
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what is the difference when ppl quoted 4.5k and 9k for about the same ft of kc and material (melamine)
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QUOTE(GrIM @ Nov 30 2020, 02:06 PM)
Hmm since so many interested, let me know what sort of questions you would want me to ask. I will generally asking on the pricing ,
psf for bottom cabinet, quartz top as well as top cabinet, what sort of material they are using etc and what is their timing for completion etc.

If you have any specific questions on material etc let me know and I will try to ask as well (since it is beneficial to all)
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Workmanship. Are they using some sort of cheap melamine or something (due to the cheaper price?)? Checkout the finishing.
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Hi All, just get a quote from UK. Everything seem okay. The only thing worry is material use melamine face chip board. Any advice?
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Hi All, just get a quote from UK. Everything seem okay. The only thing worry is material use melamine face chip board. Any advice?
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Melamine will hold for many years as long as not submerged in water and no sticker/tape placed on it. After many years if you want to remove that sticker/tape, it tend to peel off with the sticker.
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Not sure if the promo is worthy. My budget is around 30k including appliances.
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Saw the latest promo for signature kitchen. Has anyone enquired with them?
Not sure if the promo is worthy. My budget is around 30k including appliances.
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I doubt you can get 30k including appliances from the overpriced signature kitchen. My kitchen no brand also more than 30k including appliances.
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Melamine will hold for many years as long as not submerged in water and no sticker/tape placed on it. After many years if you want to remove that sticker/tape, it tend to peel off with the sticker.
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My melamine wardrobe installation just completed this afternoon. I was thinking of protecting them with some papers from scratches & dirts by electrical contractor (who will be installing lights, fans and AC next week. So I planned to tape the paper using painter’s tape. My question is, is it safe for me to do so?
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I doubt you can get 30k including appliances from the overpriced signature kitchen. My kitchen no brand also more than 30k including appliances.
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Carpentry prices vary a lot from what I gather from this thread here.
Mine is only a normal terrace, looking for I shaped kitchen cabinet about 12ft, possibly with 7ft quartz top.
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QUOTE(gordonchin @ Dec 5 2020, 11:57 PM)
Carpentry prices vary a lot from what I gather from this thread here.
Mine is only a normal terrace, looking for I shaped kitchen cabinet about 12ft, possibly with 7ft quartz top.
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7ft top is very small. 5ft for stove and sink and you will left with only 2ft of prep space. You sure you can’t design your KC to be bigger with available space in your kitchen? L-shape maybe?
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My melamine wardrobe installation just completed this afternoon. I was thinking of protecting them with some papers from scratches & dirts by electrical contractor (who will be installing lights, fans and AC next week. So I planned to tape the paper using painter’s tape. My question is, is it safe for me to do so?
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Yes the Nippon (Paint) washi tape (sky blue colour) is safe.

The store branded painters tape from Ace tend to be more sticky, I use that as roadtax mounting tape.
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QUOTE(gordonchin @ Dec 5 2020, 11:57 PM)
Carpentry prices vary a lot from what I gather from this thread here.
Mine is only a normal terrace, looking for I shaped kitchen cabinet about 12ft, possibly with 7ft quartz top.
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You mean I (as in "me myself and I") or L shaped?

The "me myself and I" is the whole total length kitchen - or you just wanna make 7feet to be more waterproof with quartz and the remainder 5feet can be other things like wood /laminate worktop?

Coz like blanket84 mentioned 7feet just enough for a 1.5bowl sink +drying area of the sink + drying rack only, there is no space left for prep work/chopping food. I have the same problem as my top is 8feet with sink.. just manage to stuff in the above-mentioned plus kettle, rice cooker, air fryer only, and that's it.. barely enough space to put chopping board and cooking supplies bottles/spices.

Stove will need to go elsewhere ie not included in the 7 feet top.

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Yes the Nippon (Paint) washi tape (sky blue colour) is safe.

The store branded painters tape from Ace tend to be more sticky, I use that as roadtax mounting tape.
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Thanks. Nippon paint washi tape was the exact thing that I bought.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Dec 6 2020, 12:09 AM)
7ft top is very small. 5ft for stove and sink and you will left with only 2ft of prep space. You sure you can’t design your KC to be bigger with available space in your kitchen? L-shape maybe?
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You mean I (as in "me myself and I") or L shaped?

The "me myself and I" is the whole total length kitchen - or you just wanna make 7feet to be more waterproof with quartz and the remainder 5feet can be other things like wood /laminate worktop?

Coz like blanket84 mentioned 7feet just enough for a 1.5bowl sink +drying area of the sink + drying rack only, there is no space left for prep work/chopping food. I have the same problem as my top is 8feet with sink.. just manage to stuff in the above-mentioned plus kettle, rice cooker, air fryer only, and that's it.. barely enough space to put chopping board and cooking supplies bottles/spices.

Stove will need to go elsewhere ie not included in the 7 feet top.
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Thanks for the input smile.gif Amateur here so might have used some words interchangeably.
What I mean is like the picture inserted below.
Cabinet side is 12'-13' long
Island itself is about 7' long x 3'

Didn't want to make it L shaped as I wanted to have a small backyard with sliding door, L shape on the other end would make my dining area very small.

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Sketched this myself but not finalised yet.
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QUOTE(gordonchin @ Dec 6 2020, 10:01 AM)
Thanks for the input  smile.gif  Amateur here so might have used some words interchangeably.
What I mean is like the picture inserted below.
Cabinet side is 12'-13' long
Island itself is about 7' long x 3'

Didn't want to make it L shaped as I wanted to have a small backyard with sliding door, L shape on the other end would make my dining area very small.

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Ahh so you can use the island as expansion area for prep area if required.

Sink will require about half of the bottom cabinet directly below it to allow for the sink depth and piping.

Stove top there also probably the whole height will be used up by gas tong nearby it unless you are going full electric hob.

Coz I saw the drawers there so better to point these things out first laugh.gif other than that should be fine
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I did my cabinet with Bespoke Kitchen (in Puchong) and would vouch for them. Their cabinets are done very well with decent price. They got the alignments all very nice and smooth. And Sam is a trustworthy person. So I would definitely return to him again.
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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 8 2020, 09:22 AM)
I did my cabinet with Bespoke Kitchen (in Puchong) and would vouch for them. Their cabinets are done very well with decent price. They got the alignments all very nice and smooth. And Sam is a trustworthy person. So I would definitely return to him again.
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Hi there, mind if you share what are the works done by them and the quoted price though...I'm planning to engage them as well.

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 8 2020, 08:22 AM)
I did my cabinet with Bespoke Kitchen (in Puchong) and would vouch for them. Their cabinets are done very well with decent price. They got the alignments all very nice and smooth. And Sam is a trustworthy person. So I would definitely return to him again.
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Too bad they only has melamine as cabinet body, else might give a try.
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Need some input from other members here. I'm in the midst of planning my first kitchen cabinet and I'm surveying quite a few suppliers. So far, my preference still lies with Ikea, mainly because it's competitively priced and I really like their design and the additional accessories that I can add on to it.

I'm also seriously considering wooden countertop because I like how warmth it makes my kitchen feel and Ikea has this thick veneer wooden top. I've yet to do any thorough research but I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who opted to go with wooden countertop and your personal experience (not hearsay).

I don't intend to use this for the next 20 years, but I'm hoping it will last me a good 5 years before I do remodeling and upgrade the kitchen.

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QUOTE(MajesticSimb@ @ Dec 9 2020, 10:57 AM)
Need some input from other members here. I'm in the midst of planning my first kitchen cabinet and I'm surveying quite a few suppliers. So far, my preference still lies with Ikea, mainly because it's competitively priced and I really like their design and the additional accessories that I can add on to it.

I'm also seriously considering wooden countertop because I like how warmth it makes my kitchen feel and Ikea has this thick veneer wooden top. I've yet to do any thorough research but I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who opted to go with wooden countertop and your personal experience (not hearsay).

I don't intend to use this for the  next 20 years, but I'm hoping it will last me a good 5 years before I do remodeling and upgrade the kitchen.
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I think I bought the last piece of the real wood countertop from IKEA. So far holding up well coz I do the oiling maintenance and don't let water puddle on it for extended amount of time.

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I think I bought the last piece of the real wood countertop from IKEA. So far holding up well coz I do the oiling maintenance and don't let water puddle on it for extended amount of time.
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Yea they no longer sell full wood, now only veneer wood. It supposed to be more durable (but I’ll just take it with a pinch of salt). How long have you had this ?

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Yea they no longer sell full wood, now only veneer wood. It supposed to be more durable (but I’ll just take it with a pinch of salt). How long have you had this ?
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In operation since Jan 2020 for the lower half of kitcab that you see in the pics. This one all maxed out "fullspec" with soft close drawers, handleless fronts (for all drawers and the doors at sink area) was just under 5-6k IIRC.
Had leaking issue with donated (freshly removed from new project) teka tap leaking at the stem (not connection joint) so that's why I didn't install the door for the sink yet. Even I got it free (donated to me by my gym mate) I don't recommend their tap coz it come with short tails (40cm) so its a space constraint to crawl under and use two blardy heavy elcheapo big spanners to tighten.
In the end bought a brand new ikea tap for 229, works beautifully and super easy to self install within 10 mins rclxms.gif the ikea tap tails (metal flexihose) they give 80cm or so, super accessible. It can be tightened easily while you sit comfortably rclxms.gif

Solid wood top cannot really do undermount sink well because of several reasons:
the water penetration issue at the cutout hole
(not to mention its quite tricky to cut a perfect hole with rounded corners using router)
plus the fact that the surface is not 100% flat unlike manmade stone/veneer tops.
Drop in sink (traditional method) still the safest and easiest IMO.

Upper half I just installed the rail, as that part need to drill (noise restriction during MCO only 9-1 weekdays is a bit bothersome - previously anytime within 5.5days office hrs) and getting it done within this month - just need to assemble the cabinet frame "box" and hook it up.

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Hi, all sifus here, i need some recommendation and someone to have a look on the quotation, because i am not really sure about the price is reasonable or on the high side.
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Unity Kitchen is it? If yes, i agree it is expensive. And the price almost the same with signature kitchen. I prefer signature looks rather than unity. But i think it depends on ur budget. If unity is expensive, maybe u can try other brands.
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hie.. mind to share vendor name?

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Unity kitchen

Wet kitchen is base 13.5ft, wall unit up to ceiling 9.9ft
dry kitchen base 5ft tall unit is 4ft

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Unity Kitchen is it? If yes, i agree it is expensive. And the price almost the same with signature kitchen. I prefer signature looks rather than unity. But i think it depends on ur budget. If unity is expensive, maybe u can try other brands.
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But for march offer, they give free table top (sandstone), which roughly can save 4k
after discounted is around 15.8k

Any recommendation other than Signature kitchen and unity kitchen? can survey around first
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QUOTE(RaVe| @ Dec 20 2020, 01:03 AM)
But for march offer, they give free table top (sandstone), which roughly can save 4k
after discounted is around 15.8k

Any recommendation other than Signature kitchen and unity kitchen? can survey around first
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So the total would be less than the quotation? (If tabletop is free) if u think it is worth it, go for it..

If u go for no-brand kitchen cabinet (the one with own factory), u can get half the price..i went to one in sg buloh..i cant remember the name..but i wasn’t sure of the aftersale services, hence my decision on signature..


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Plan to reno a condo, kitchen cabinet (bottom) 6 feet. Contractor quote 3k without quartz and solid surface. Jus basic laminated chip board i guess. Reasonable ? One of them 3k, another 3.2k.
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Plan to reno a condo, kitchen cabinet (bottom) 6 feet. Contractor quote 3k without quartz and solid surface. Jus basic laminated chip board i guess. Reasonable ? One of them 3k, another 3.2k.
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6ft with chipboard.

Ikea can do better deal
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6ft with chipboard.

Ikea can do better deal
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Ikea kitchen basically got two series
Elcheapo one is the below 2k for a 8ft kitchen, top and bottom materials. then add 600 installation or just DIY.
This is more cost effective for rental condemnation.

The metod one for 8ft if you go all out fullspec with nice sink and all the fancier soft close hinges, fancier drawer front without handles, will cost about 5-6k on materials.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Dec 25 2020, 03:29 PM)
Ikea kitchen basically got two series
Elcheapo one is the below 2k for a 8ft kitchen, top and bottom materials. then add 600 installation or just DIY.
This is more cost effective for rental condemnation.

The metod one for 8ft if you go all out fullspec with nice sink and all the fancier soft close hinges, fancier drawer front without handles, will cost about 5-6k on materials.
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Thanks ya

2k is damn cheap.. maybe will go for that, then add quartz as top.

The below 2k that u mention, is already include sink n tap n drawers?
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Dec 25 2020, 03:54 PM)
Thanks ya

2k is damn cheap.. maybe will go for that, then add quartz as top.

The below 2k that u mention, is already include sink n tap n drawers?
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Yes they actually come with a top and sink as well for the below 2k series
- the elcheapo series, sink also elcheapo looking but it will functionally, it will work just fine la.
https://www.ikea.com/my/en/cat/knoxhult-series-36836/

but bear in mind elcheapo series materials will DEFINITELY cut corners lah like material thickness of the cabinet chassis and shelves
- the standard series metod one also configurable to order without worktop. however base price cannot fight the elcheapo series la. u can also get as cheap as 20-30 for the drawer fronts for metod. Fancier door >100 ea.
https://www.ikea.com/my/en/cat/base-cabinet...ht-80-cm-23607/

- the elcheapo one also got preset components like one shelf. or one bottom unit.
https://www.ikea.com/my/en/cat/knoxhult-all-parts-49318/


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full spec 8ft with lighting (400, can minus off) and fancy 1k sink and upgraded 229 tap and everything drawer on the bottom (except part under sink) is 6.1k+
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Yes they actually come with a top and sink as well for the below 2k series
- the elcheapo series, sink also elcheapo looking but it will functionally, it will work just fine la.
https://www.ikea.com/my/en/cat/knoxhult-series-36836/

but bear in mind elcheapo series materials will DEFINITELY cut corners lah like material thickness of the cabinet chassis and shelves
- the standard series metod one also configurable to order without worktop. however base price cannot fight the elcheapo series la. u can also get as cheap as 20-30 for the drawer fronts for metod. Fancier door >100 ea.
https://www.ikea.com/my/en/cat/base-cabinet...ht-80-cm-23607/

- the elcheapo one also got preset components like one shelf. or one bottom unit.
https://www.ikea.com/my/en/cat/knoxhult-all-parts-49318/
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full spec 8ft with lighting (400, can minus off) and fancy 1k sink and upgraded 229 tap and everything drawer on the bottom (except part under sink) is 6.1k+
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Wow thanks for the info. Probably going for the cheapo one cos renting out.. will take a look. Thanks again!
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Actually, i have changed the top to marble and backsplash to black glass mirror. Also I add on fancy transparent display shelves (opening-up type) plus few custom kitchen accesories like double trashbin and plate rack with drip pan. Surprisingly my final quotation is still around RM20K. (The marble top itself is around RM8K for 17ft run).

Not sure it is still high side now or not but the previous quotation was made high I believe. The final quotation I have now is after finalizing the plan with our KC contractor.
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Need to renovate the old kitchen. Require plywood carcass with quartz counter top.
How can we differenciate solid surface, quarts top and different % of quartz?

Will need to redo all flooring tiles and some part or the wall tiles. What would be suitable ceramic or porcelain tiles?

Attach drawing plan as I deem Ok.
Sifu, What else do I need to describe to get as close as what I require? Thanks


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Need to renovate the old kitchen. Require plywood carcass with quartz counter top.
How can we differenciate solid surface, quarts top and different % of quartz?

Will need to redo all flooring tiles and some part or the wall tiles. What would be suitable ceramic or porcelain tiles?

Attach drawing plan as I deem Ok.
Sifu, What else do I need to describe to get as close as what I require? Thanks
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I am not a sifu, but I recently did a renovation so I could share some personal experience.

I can't answer your first question since I already decided on Quartz since the beginning, so I've never made any research on solid surface. On % of quartz, if you buy standard one, you most probably wouldn't know. Expensive ones might tell you the %.

Tiles, ceramic is good enough for wall, porcelain is better for floor, but thick ceramic should be fine too if you like the design.

I think you drawing is good enough for KC company to start designing. Maybe you would want to specify base unit height that suits your own height. If you already have in mind how do you want to arrange your tableware, cookware, dinnerware, utensils & etc, maybe you can specify them in your design.

And I would highly recommend Cubix KC if you're into Shaker style cabinet with plywood carcass.

And don't forget to buy a water level and check the straightness of your walls before engaging a KC contractor. I learned that lesson the hard way. sweat.gif

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Need to renovate the old kitchen. Require plywood carcass with quartz counter top.
How can we differenciate solid surface, quarts top and different % of quartz?

Will need to redo all flooring tiles and some part or the wall tiles. What would be suitable ceramic or porcelain tiles?

Attach drawing plan as I deem Ok.
Sifu, What else do I need to describe to get as close as what I require? Thanks
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I think you need to have wider gap between your sink area and hob area to facilitate the movement to the door. From the diagram it looks small. Do not max counter space and sacrifice movement (or risk injury knocking against the counter).

As far as counter surfaces people nowadays don’t usually go for solid surfaces unless you want cheap. Solid surface is not as “hard” and it will sustain scratches. When you are talking about quartz, you are talking about quartz composite? Quartz composite can have quartz content from 65% to 95% (or higher). Lower quality cheap China imports may have lower quartz content and hence less durable. But quartz content is one factor, the other factors are the bonding resin and if anti bacterial materials is incorporated. You are not going to get much info on how good the bonding resin other than it is reflected in the price. Products such as Silestone or Caesarstone are two examples of high quality brands with published specs.

Not many people use natural stones such as marbles, quartz, etc. as counter surface. They are natural stones and hence more beautiful but maintenance is a bitch. But that’s an option.

As far as floor tiles are concerned, technical porcelain is the type you should use for kitchen floor. Ceramic tiles are just not good enough for high traffic/high use area such as kitchen. Wall tiles you can choose any type or design that you like but not floor tiles.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 6 2021, 12:56 AM)
I am not a sifu, but I recently did a renovation so I could share some personal experience.

I can't answer your first question since I already decided on Quartz since the beginning, so I've never made any research on solid surface. On % of quartz, if you buy standard one, you most probably wouldn't know. Expensive ones might tell you the %.

Tiles, ceramic is good enough for wall, porcelain is better for floor, but thick ceramic should be fine too if you like the design.

I think you drawing is good enough for KC company to start designing. Maybe you would want to specify base unit height that suits your own height. If you already have in mind how do you want to arrange your tableware, cookware, dinnerware, utensils & etc, maybe you can specify them in your design.

And I would highly recommend Cubix KC if you're into Shaker style cabinet with plywood carcass.

And don't forget to buy a water level and check the straightness of your walls before engaging a KC contractor. I learned that lesson the hard way.  sweat.gif
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Thanks for sharing your experience.

Did scroll thru Cubic page, it seems they are using melamine carcass as describe on their products. Did you engage their service using plywood carcass?

As for the level of the wall, will be changing the floor & wall tiles and be engaging their services together with KC. Hopefully will get an experience tiler.
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I think you need to have wider gap between your sink area and hob area to facilitate the movement to the door. From the diagram it looks small. Do not max counter space and sacrifice movement (or risk injury knocking against the counter).

As far as counter surfaces people nowadays don’t usually go for solid surfaces unless you want cheap. Solid surface is not as “hard” and it will sustain scratches. When you are talking about quartz, you are talking about quartz composite? Quartz composite can have quartz content from 65% to 95% (or higher). Lower quality cheap China imports may have lower quartz content and hence less durable. But quartz content is one factor, the other factors are the bonding resin and if anti bacterial materials is incorporated. You are not going to get much info on how good the bonding resin other than it is reflected in the price. Products such as Silestone or Caesarstone are two examples of high quality brands with published specs.

Not many people use natural stones such as marbles, quartz, etc.  as counter surface. They are natural stones and hence more beautiful but maintenance is a bitch. But that’s an option.

As far as floor tiles are concerned, technical porcelain is the type you should use for kitchen floor. Ceramic tiles are just not good enough for high traffic/high use area such as kitchen. Wall tiles you can choose any type or design that you like but not floor tiles.
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Thanks for your input. For the gap between two countertops, it will be slightly smaller, maybe like ~18". Anyway will not be accessing much, so don't mind to sacrifice a little.

The problem with china quartz (cheap), better quartz (moderate) and high end quartz (expensive) what will the problem(s) in the next 10 years?
Miss out on the promo of Silestone. Are you using it?

What is "technical" porcelain? Noob

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Thanks for your input. For the gap between two countertops, it will be slightly smaller, maybe like ~18". Anyway will not be accessing much, so don't mind to sacrifice a little.

The problem with china quartz (cheap), better quartz (moderate) and high end quartz (expensive) what will the problem(s) in the next 10 years?
Miss out on the promo of Silestone. Are you using it?

What is "technical" porcelain? Noob
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Lol. I can be the spokesperson for Silestone. Both my houses are using Silestone for wet and dry kitchen and laundry area. 😁

Cheap China quartz will have lower quartz content and thus will likely more susceptible to stains and scratches. I have not seen any scratch on my Silestone despite years of usage. High quality countertop you can prepare food directly on the surface (if you desire) due to well sealed surface and anti bacterial properties.

Another option is 2x2 or 2x4 porcelain tiles as counter materials. They are much cheaper if you don’t mind grout lines between tiles. Porcelain tiles are super tough too.

As per technical porcelain tiles. These are the “best” porcelain tiles in terms of temperature, moisture, stain, chemical resistance, impact tolerance. They are more dense and thus are very tough. You should use them in high traffic and or high moisture areas. Of course they are more expensive too!
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Hi sifus, i’m planning to have melamine and quartz kitchen cabinet. But i have issues with my own design. I can’t seem to finalize on the location of my washed dishes - either buy double bowl sink OR have open shelf (seems messy to me). Is there any other design u could suggest to me? Tq
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QUOTE(senscents @ Jan 6 2021, 02:42 PM)
Thanks for sharing your experience.

Did scroll thru Cubic page, it seems they are using melamine carcass as describe on their products. Did you engage their service using plywood carcass?

As for the level of the wall, will be changing the floor & wall tiles and be engaging their services together with KC. Hopefully will get an experience tiler.
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QUOTE(senscents @ Jan 6 2021, 03:06 PM)
Thanks for your input. For the gap between two countertops, it will be slightly smaller, maybe like ~18". Anyway will not be accessing much, so don't mind to sacrifice a little.

The problem with china quartz (cheap), better quartz (moderate) and high end quartz (expensive) what will the problem(s) in the next 10 years?
Miss out on the promo of Silestone. Are you using it?

What is "technical" porcelain? Noob
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Not sure if you get the right page, but it is Cubix that I mentioned and not Cubic. Probably two different companies. I use plywood carcass and nyatoh door for my KC.

18" gap is small. 3' is the bare minimum. And I noticed that your hob carcass is huge. What is the size of the hob you're planning to use? The carcass for my 5 burner hob is only 900mm. Maybe you can reduce the size the to increase the access path. And also what is your sink length? Maybe can reduce few inches on that too. Where do you plan to put your washing machine? If the washing machine needs to pass your KC, lifting them to pass the access gap might be a problem especially if it is the heavier front load washing machine.
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Jan 6 2021, 03:53 PM)
Lol. I can be the spokesperson for Silestone. Both my houses are using Silestone for wet and dry kitchen and laundry area. 😁

Cheap China quartz will have lower quartz content and thus will likely more susceptible to stains and scratches. I have not seen any scratch on my Silestone despite years of usage. High quality countertop you can prepare food directly on the surface (if you desire) due to well sealed surface and anti bacterial properties.

Another option is 2x2 or 2x4 porcelain tiles as counter materials. They are much cheaper if you don’t mind grout lines between tiles. Porcelain tiles are super tough too.

As per technical porcelain tiles. These are the “best” porcelain tiles in terms of temperature, moisture, stain, chemical resistance, impact tolerance. They are more dense and thus are very tough. You should use them in high traffic and or high moisture areas. Of course they are more expensive too!
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Wanted silestone for my countertop but no budget sweat.gif

But i can change them later in the future right?
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QUOTE(fleur_cherie @ Jan 6 2021, 04:25 PM)
Hi sifus, i’m planning to have melamine and quartz kitchen cabinet. But i have issues with my own design. I can’t seem to finalize on the location of my washed dishes - either buy double bowl sink OR have open shelf (seems messy to me). Is there any other design u could suggest to me? Tq
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I had the same dilemma as you. I hate the look of dish drainer. So I opted to use one of the double bowl sink to as drainer + small countertop dish drainer which I could keep inside the cabinet after using them. It is a hassle to take them out and put back into the cabinet and I have to rajin wipe the dishes after "draining" them. Something that I have to sacrifice for the sake of clean looks.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 6 2021, 04:45 PM)
I had the same dilemma as you. I hate the look of dish drainer. So I opted to use one of the double bowl sink to as drainer + small countertop dish drainer which I could keep inside the cabinet after using them. It is a hassle to take them out and put back into the cabinet and I have to rajin wipe the dishes after "draining" them. Something that I have to sacrifice for the sake of clean looks.
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My thought as well and i have limited countertop area, so need to make sure it is not messy all the time. But i’m not that rajin to wipe the dishes 😅 bcoz of this i haven’t bought any sink yet 🤣
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Jan 6 2021, 03:53 PM)
Lol. I can be the spokesperson for Silestone. Both my houses are using Silestone for wet and dry kitchen and laundry area. 😁

Cheap China quartz will have lower quartz content and thus will likely more susceptible to stains and scratches. I have not seen any scratch on my Silestone despite years of usage. High quality countertop you can prepare food directly on the surface (if you desire) due to well sealed surface and anti bacterial properties.

Another option is 2x2 or 2x4 porcelain tiles as counter materials. They are much cheaper if you don’t mind grout lines between tiles. Porcelain tiles are super tough too.

As per technical porcelain tiles. These are the “best” porcelain tiles in terms of temperature, moisture, stain, chemical resistance, impact tolerance. They are more dense and thus are very tough. You should use them in high traffic and or high moisture areas. Of course they are more expensive too!
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Ohhh. Silestone user. Definitely good but pricing 😅.

Learn new things everyday on this technical porcelain tiles You are using it I presumed. Good idea you have there on the usage of technical porcelain tiles on countertops.

Have thought of using tiles but afraid of not as lasting on the everyday usage like chemical and stain, but with this better technical porcelain tiles it will definitely more durable.

If I may ask on the indicative price of technical porcelain tiles as I might use it on the flooring and possibly the countertops (see if the sizes suitable,may need 48"L)
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jan 6 2021, 04:40 PM)
Not sure if you get the right page, but it is Cubix that I mentioned and not Cubic. Probably two different companies. I use plywood carcass and nyatoh door for my KC.

18" gap is small. 3' is the bare minimum. And I noticed that your hob carcass is huge. What is the size of the hob you're planning to use? The carcass for my 5 burner hob is only 900mm. Maybe you can reduce the size the to increase the access path. And also what is your sink length? Maybe can reduce few inches on that too. Where do you plan to put your washing machine? If the washing machine needs to pass your KC, lifting them to pass the access gap might be a problem especially if it is the heavier front load washing machine.
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Auto correction error. Yeah Cubix in Sg. Buloh, right? View their Insta.
Appreciate your input on the ~18" gap. Will try to adjust if it possible.
Currently using the old Electrolux hob 19-3/4" × 35-1/2" with 3 burners. Need to survey on hobs too.😅 Budgeting again.

As for washing machine, that will not be much of a problem Can be relocate if not then is a problem when is broken down only. Thouch wood 😆
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Wanted silestone for my countertop but no budget sweat.gif

But i can change them later in the future right?
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Not advisable especially if you are using wood or melamine carcass. Ripping another quartz surface off the counter will likely damage the carcass.

One option is to go with any wood or melamine surface and replace it later with Silestone or similar when you have the budget. But normally people will just decide to go with cheaper China quartz and live with that. You just have to be more careful to prevent mild acid or super hot pots directly on the surface.
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QUOTE(senscents @ Jan 6 2021, 05:34 PM)
Ohhh. Silestone user. Definitely good but pricing 😅.

Learn new things everyday on this technical porcelain tiles  You are using it I presumed. Good idea you have there on the usage of technical porcelain tiles on countertops.

Have thought of using tiles but afraid of not as lasting on the everyday usage like chemical and stain, but with this better technical porcelain tiles it will definitely more durable.

If I may ask on the indicative price of technical porcelain tiles as I might use it on the flooring and possibly the countertops (see if the sizes suitable,may need 48"L)
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Go and look at some new porcelain tile designs. Some look like marble with beautiful grains! That’s for countertop. If u need only 48”. They have now 2x4 size which is perfect for you.

For kitchen floors, try to go for easy maintenance gray or dark gray colors. A Niro 2x2 when I bought it last year was about RM21.5 per piece for my backyard of 300 plus sqft. Niro technical porcelain is one of the best. MML is good too but expensive. Guocera, White Horse others depending on the product ranges.

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Jan 6 2021, 06:19 PM)
Go and look at some new porcelain tile designs. Some look like marble with beautiful grains! That’s for countertop. If u need only 48”. They have now 2x4 size which is perfect for you.

For kitchen floors, try to go for easy maintenance gray or dark gray colors. A Niro 2x2 when I bought it last year was about RM21.5 per piece for my backyard of 300 plus sqft. Niro technical porcelain is one of the best. MML is good too but expensive. Guocera, White Horse others depending on the product ranges.
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Appreciate your input. Will look around for a suitable tiles. 😁

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