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Mixgal
post Feb 27 2020, 02:32 AM

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Hi guys, I’m in a serious need for help. I’m currently doing a major renovation for my house. I’ll be re-doing all cabinetry in the house.

I’ve been dreaming of English style white kitchen for a while now. I’ll be using Silestone (Calacatta range) for my kitchen countertop. I’m at a lost with which company to go for Nyatoh kitchen cabinet - I’ve surveyed and visited Intech Kitchen, Unity Kitchen, Bali Kitchen & Wallmaster. My feedback -

1. Intech Kitchen - I had a good vibe with them, however, they do not provide any warranty. I felt uneasy as I saw cracks on one of the nyatoh kitchen cabinet door at their showroom. They couldn’t provide an explanation and insisted no warranty will be given.

2. Unity Kitchen - Pleasant experience, however, not much design available when it comes to nyatoh kitchen cabinets - they couldn’t deliver the design I wanted.

3. Bali Kitchen - Not bad, still considering. Would really appreciate some feedbacks from those who have gone with them.

4. Wallmaster - Negative experience.

5. House of Chesterfield - Negative experience.

Question 1: Can someone please recommend to me company that does good solid nyatoh cabinets ? Anyone have experience with Bali Kitchen ?

Question 2: I have been recommended by a contractor to used High Density Fibreboard (HDF) for wardrobe and other carpentry. According to him, it’s way better than MDF. Price is also higher. Any thoughts ?

Thank you in advance to all your inputs/suggestions. smile.gif




Mixgal
post Feb 28 2020, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Cosentino Malaysia @ Feb 27 2020, 07:26 PM)
We are Cosentino, the manufacturer that brings you Silestone and Dekton. May I be a service?
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I’ve already gotten in touch with Ms Yen Lee smile.gif Thanks
Mixgal
post Feb 29 2020, 12:31 PM

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Guys, what are your thoughts on using High Density Fibreboard (HDF) for wardrobe and cabinets ? Inputs please
Mixgal
post Feb 29 2020, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Feb 29 2020, 12:54 PM)
It all depends on you. I thought you were considering solid wood?? I would say in terms of resistance to moisture it would be solid wood, plywood, HDF, MDF and melamine in decreasing order. Price wise is obviously the other way.

Not many people go for solid wood because of price and harder to to make. Also it may crack as it is natural wood. Man made materials are far more consistent and even and easier to paint. If u can afford get the solid wood or ply wood. Although most people make do with melamine
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I was thinking of solid wood for my dry kitchen smile.gif as for wet kitchen, maybe HDF.. Apologies I’m just a bit nervous as my ID dropped out and I have a lot of cabinets to do 🤯

I think I’ll go with solid wood for my dry kitchen, then HDF for wet kitchen and wardrobes. Was quoted 200+k for the whole house 😣

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Mixgal
post Mar 1 2020, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 1 2020, 04:50 AM)
Personally If I were you I would go solid wood for wet kitchen and HDF or plywood for dry. Wardrobes can be anything as long as good design because they are not close to water or moisture. But that's me.

In reality, HDF or plywood is probably good enough. You can save the money and spend on others. People that usually spend on solid wood are those that have huge budget where they don’t have to worry about trade off. If u can afford solid wood is the best.

Most of us mortals have to decide if the money should go to solid wood or better sinks, taps, lights, appliances etc. I was in that situation to decide if I want to demolish an entirely new melamine kitchen cabinet and build new ones. I decided to use it but changes most things (including to Silestone) except the carcass. I use the savings for others.

Renovation is expensive. If u were quoted 200k+ be prepared to spend 260k+
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Thank you for your input. Yes, renovation is indeed expensive! 200k for cabinetry alone and this is not inclusive of the Blums 😏

Initially I was thinking of going for solid wood for dry kitchen, master wardrobe, and bathroom cabinets and HDF for wet kitchen and the rest of house. Now I may need to rethink it.

Let me know if you know of any solid wood carpenter. I’ve seen quite a few but I’m not convinced with neither. Thanks again for your input I really appreciate it.

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post Mar 1 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 1 2020, 11:25 AM)
I was looking for a good carpenter to do my library, study and staircase shelves. Solid wood carpenters are a dying breed. The materials are expensive. One mistake the margin is gone. The smart ones open Signature Kitchen or Unity or independent plywood/melamine carpenters. This is where the money is.

The ones I dealt with are small carpenters. The price was reasonable but I really can't stand their poor response, "tidak apa" attitude. Delivery is always questionable.

There is one where I went to his shop far from my house. Agreed on the work. Wanted to bank in half as deposit. Asking for design and start work. Called and WhatsApp and never responded. These are the people you usually deal with.

May be with your 200k budget u can get better attention as money talks. To be honest 200k for cabinetry is very high-end. I spent 200k to fix my entire new house! But then I sourced everything myself and contractors do the work
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You are spot on when it comes small time solid wood carpenters ! Their service is despicable to say the least. Even with 200k budget (and they know it!).

I’ve travelled far to visit their “showroom” as most of them are in Semenyih, Kajang area. Slow to no response, zero interest in assisting and answering my queries and the list goes on. I just don’t understand. So frustrating 😡

My house is currently under renovation and it’s quite a major one (600k for renovation). I’ve so far purchased sanitary (Kohler WC & sink, Hansgrohe shower system and faucets) and tiles (Feruni). There will be a lot more expenses moving forward 😒

I hope I’ll be able to find a decent carpenter..

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post Mar 1 2020, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Mar 1 2020, 12:07 PM)
Good luck and let me know if you find a good one. I am still looking but now considering plywood.

You are playing in a different league. Only thing I can say is Feruni is only ok. I prefer MML or Niro. Should go with marble 800x800mm for living
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Thank you ! I’ll definitely let you know if and when I find a good one smile.gif
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post Mar 3 2020, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Mar 2 2020, 12:58 PM)
I think u got it the other way round, u should use the best wood (solid wood) in your wet kitchen, unless u do a lot of washing w/ sink in your dry kitchen...

As for HDF, i think most ppl will recommend plywood instead of HDF... HDF is just a better version of MDF.... sawdust or wood particle compressed with resin....  I think similar to laminated flooring.
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Thanks for your input. I was considering solid wood for dry kitchen for aesthetic purposes, as I am interested in the classic english style.

I'm aware that the classic english style is achievable using plywood/HDF. Do you know what would be the difference between solid wood and plywood/HDF in terms on aesthetic? In other words, would it look the same?

TIA!!
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post Mar 3 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Mar 3 2020, 03:29 PM)
Depends on what "color" you want for your kitchen...
If you want wooden colors, from far , solid wood vs plywood probably look the same... but from near definitely plywood with laminated skin could not hold a candle to a real wood texture, color and feel....

However if, you are going to paint a solid color over the wood, then plywood/hdf with laminate looks so much better, the surface is flawless, etc..etc...
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Thanks! you've been of great help. I'm planning to have a white kitchen smile.gif I was thinking to spray paint the cabinet but some carpenters told me that it is better to stain it. What do you think?

 

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