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tony_mw
post Mar 2 2020, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(m.syafiq.rahim @ Oct 10 2019, 08:05 PM)
Just sharing my completed KC to fellow forumers.. 😁

- Material : Kabinet Fomica / Quartz top
(Existing tiles top)
- Price : <15k (exclude electrical appliances)

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Aw so nice bro!

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tony_mw
post Oct 23 2020, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(pesona3F @ Oct 23 2020, 12:20 PM)
Update the post already 😁😁

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Congrats bro. thumbup.gif
Mind if im asking which kc company did you hired and whats the damage costed to your wallet?
tony_mw
post May 5 2021, 04:59 PM

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Hey sifu-sifu, i’ve have a noob question here. Can we put quartz / terrazzo slab on top of concrete kitchen instead of apply tiles?

If its possible, do we need to let the contractor(who build my concrete kitchen) know in advance so he can make the concrete base slimmer? If yes, what would be the best thickness for the concrete base?

My concern here is if the concrete base is build at average thickness, will the final kitchentop will turn out very thick after put on the quartz / terrazzo slabs confused.gif

Feel free to share any information to me if you had this experience before. Thanks notworthy.gif

tony_mw
post May 6 2021, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 6 2021, 12:22 AM)
Normally concrete still need that 2 or 3 in thickness unless very well reinforced to the wall.
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Thanks for the info, ceo! However, it's still possible to do as the way as I was describe right? I mean put the slab on top of concrete top.
The reason why I asked so, is because both of my uncles(a electrician who works on home reno while another has quite a few reno experience ) advise me that it's better to stick with concrete kitchen+tiles instead of other carcass choices (melamine/aluminium) due to it's great lifespan but personally I dislike tiles grout line although I know I can use bigger tiles.
BTW, I'm still considering should I use Ikea Method(quite interested on their new launch bamboo front) or just stick with concrete top. Did a plan via Ikea Planner for a 15ft base cabinet+4x60cm base as island already cost around 11k without kitchentop. So before I made the decision, I wish to know what option I've right now so I can compare all of them and see which is the best bang of my buck since I still have a little bit of time now. tongue.gif

QUOTE(cdspins @ May 6 2021, 12:32 AM)
I'm not a professional, but based on my understanding you either build the concrete base with normal thickness or just forgo it and install the slab directly on the concrete column with wood or aluminum structure to support the counter top.

It a concrete base is too slim, it can not cover the steel structure and it is weak. prone to crack.

You don't need to worry about the counter top being thick, it can easily be design to edge down and cover the thickness fully.
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Appreciate for your input, certainly ease my mind a little as I was quite worried about the thickness will kill the aesthetic!(although my plan is nowhere close to art laugh.gif ) Wondering will the slab shakes/vibrate easily when we chopping ingredient on the slab+concrete column?
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post May 10 2021, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 8 2021, 01:37 AM)
No offense to those concrete top users, but yes in terms of bulletproofness its pretty hardwearing and all but if the actual cabinet still melamine based it will also have same wetness issue in years to come. However to me usually concrete top is the economical solution if enduser finds those quartz or similar tops as unaffordable.

Ikea one being modular if the sink part needs replacing then it should be an easy swap.

The slab can be installed over concrete top, or brick/alu profile frame (like a nicer version of scaffolding) or even placed on top of ikea carcasses (with or without underlay plywood)..impt is to ensure something can support the slab consistently across its span..ie not just hanging at the 2 ends and whole middle part unsupported, it may fracture or crack. In other words, can buy the metod system sans countertop also and install a quartz or granite slab to lay on top. Metod give u access to Blum fittings for a fraction of price from full priced options like Hafele or Sig Kit.
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Thank you so much for being so helpful! notworthy.gif
As for Metod system, is there a need to put a plywood in between of their 80cm base cabinets as support to the slab like what you mentioned above?
If yes, do I need to place it on every cabinets? Will Ikea installer help on this?

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post May 15 2021, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(miko89bel @ May 15 2021, 12:09 PM)
Hi, is it cheaper to install terrazzo counter top as compared to quartz counter top? My ID quote me RM300/ft for quartz counter top. Is it overprice?
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The last time i check with terrazzo malaysia back in 2020, their price was rm35/sf(without installation and transport) for a slab of terrazzo and they do have different size of slab(2400mmx1800m & 2400x1600mm) then they can cut according your need.

hope it helps.
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post Aug 27 2021, 09:33 PM

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Hi sifu-sifu, can someone share some thoughts about this quotation below where I just got quoted by a Capenter. Carcass using plywood, KC height 8ft tall.

1. Kitchen L-11ft wall unit & base unit = RM9,900
2. Kitchen L-2ft Tall Unit = RM1,500
3. Island L-7ft x W-2.2ft = RM4,200
4. Kitchen Fridge Cabinet L x 3ft = RM1,800
5. Quartz stone kitchentop 11ft for base unit + 7ft for island = RM3,680

Above quotation included one vertical row of drawers at base unit, all soft close door, door hinges & open hole on kitchentop. Total 21k and 50% deposit needed upon confirming. Is this quotation sound reasonable? icon_question.gif
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post Aug 28 2021, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Aug 28 2021, 12:20 AM)
My L shape 15+5ft aluminium cabinet which includes bottom & top units only cost 22k.
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Mind if I ask is there any tall unit in your cabinet or just top and bottom unit only? It’s that being say the quotation I got is towards to the high side? Many thanks. smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Aug 28 2021, 02:22 PM)
Nope, no tall unit but only top & bottom, top unit reach ceiling.
I'm not sure about market price but imo yeah it's high and with that price better go for aluminium cabinet, unless you prefer wood style.
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Appreciate so much for your reply. Would you mind if you could pm me a picture of your kc so I can have a better comparison but no forcing anyway. smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2021, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 28 2021, 11:08 PM)
Fridge cabinet 900mm wide can support most two door but SBS range limiter ya. Ensure enough clearance vs the fridge you intend to buy for width and height.
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Can I know what's SBS range limiter Sensei? The fridge that I intend to get is 855mm so I guess it's enough for the fridge cabinet. Thanks for highlighting that out! tongue.gif

Btw, what do you think about the quotation? I've made a similar layout plan in Ikea app and it cost around 12k without installations and kitchentop(So I assumed it will be around 16-17k in the end). However, I know Ikea used better quality of chipboard & hardware(compared to most of the local carpenter offer) but will it last longer than plywood that local carpenter using in long term? hmm.gif
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post Aug 29 2021, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 28 2021, 11:39 PM)
Sorry, I typed on phone, it supposed to be limited. A lot of SBS fridge is wide at 900+ width.

For Ikea Metod and all non-alu kitcab in that price range the common enemy is water.  brows.gif It will be easier to change bits like drawer fronts and stuff from Ikea coz its standardised measurement. I have an old door from non ikea cabinet (ie the door under the sink) needing replacement but this was made in 1997 so its hard to get replacement.

Personally I use ikea metod for my own place and keep it dry, no problem.
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Alright sensei! Btw is your metod kc able to make it full ceiling height? Because I asked ikea cs previously they say they arent able to do so. So i'm thinking the way to doing it is to ask my plaster ceiling contractor to box it up before install the metod kc(if Im using ikea kc) with a minimum gap between kc and plaster box just to create that similar to 'full ceiling feel'. Is this the right way to do so, feel free to correct me if im wrong? Any opinion is appreciated! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 29 2021, 10:08 AM)
I dont think your carpentar is using plywood .... it should be the common chipboard also. The different in prices is the thickness.

The price of plywood is more expensive than chipboard.

Btw, I never agree to a fridge cabinet in my place.
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Well, it's the word from the carpenter himself. Perhaps I shall ask him to put the black and white into the finalise quotation for better assurance?

Btw, I never agree to a fridge cabinet in my place.
Mind to elaborate more on this, sensei? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 6 2021, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ Aug 31 2021, 10:46 PM)
If there's gap between KC and plaster, won't you worry about the dust accumulate there and hard to clean?
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I've not thought much about that yet tbh lol. tongue.gif
Can the KC install directly under the plaster without any gap? What I meant is without deco panel.

 

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