Gotten an offer to work at PEtronas. Wanna know the working environment there.. ok? Staff benefits.. heard that it's among the best in M'sia... and how's the people culture there?

Pls advise.... all the sifus out there....
Thanks

wat position?.......some of my friends working there got 4+2 months bonus...

executive... heard bonus is great .. but im more concrned of the environment and the benefits.... since the place im in now have lotsa benefits...

thx

i heard rumour said non-bumi hardly can get promotion.
is that true?

tumpany tanya, i just got an interview offer by drilling and measurement operation department from schlumberger. Anyone know what is the job function of this department? and how is the working condition there....thank you

Actually I heard even some of the Malays can't get promotions...

I have never worked with them before, but I did hear this kind of rumour about not getting promotion + you will be burden by a lot of works because other ppl are lazy....
If you cannot join other oil company, you may join Petronas (just to decorate your CV)

here are some of the benefits.

1. annual contractual bonus
2. housing loan
3. car loan
4. dental coverage $500 / year
5. Unlimited medical coverage by ING insuranse..If you have wife and kids, they are also covered.
5. Skim persaraan..when you retired, they will give you certain amount of money..

thats all i can think about now..

and the working environment depends on your position i can say..ive seen those involve in project is quite a stress environment..

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Added on March 14, 2007, 8:38 pmwhere did you heard this rumours?

no such thing..i u perform and passed the assessment, you will have an equally chance with the bumis.

This post has been edited by Seventh7: Mar 14 2007, 08:38 PM

Then, tell me which Petronas top executive is a non-bumi.

Dreamer

That doesn't mean they don't deserve to be at the top. But then again, it is a GLC.

board of directors in one of petronas operating unit.
Dato' Sadasivan s/o N. N. Pillay
Dato' Chew Kong Seng

This post has been edited by Seventh7: Mar 14 2007, 09:41 PM

What about any upper executive and mid management? Those director is due to political link.

This post has been edited by chamelion: Mar 14 2007, 09:45 PM

of course they are...my former senior manager was a chinese..

collin wong, ceo,
petronas penapisan (M) sdn bhd.
melaka.

highest rank ma..

i just don't belief what people write, but this one is for sure,
check their web.

if you want more, find on your own.

if you tell lies long enough it gonna be true.

i'm gonna start one.

if non-bumi use petronas gas they gonna die of cancer.

-ed

Seventh7, are you currently working in Petronas and are you a bumi or non-bumi?

yup..im petronas staff..and im bumi.

I gotta say i'm with Dreamer on this...

You may be able to name this person.. but do a background check on him and you'll see who he's "related" to...

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Added on March 15, 2007, 12:41 amThis post has been edited by cktwai: Mar 29 2013, 09:08 AM

Out of how many percentage of this such case happen? There are so many petronas subsidiaries and it will be consider strange if there are without non-bumi high rank officer.

statistic will tell everything, but that's something we'll never get.... so peace man... peace....

the answer is pretty simple, dont evenn have to speak it out and loud, u know, i know, everybody knows...

Unless ur dad owns an oil field in the Middle East..., well dun expect much in Petronas except decent pay and good working experience. IMHO.

I used to work at Petronas b4 as vendor.i think Carigali is the most 'stress' OPU compare to others.U attached to what OPU?

Hi, just wondering when did you attend their structured interview? Did they send you letter? Mine got no reply, so I assume I did not make it.

this is like asking....."tell me which Genting top executive is a bumi?"

this isnt benefitting anyone

tun haniff omar ex-igp

Genting group have its casino business, would you like to join the company?

Anybody know whats the starting salary like? for fresh grad? Research department just have a chat with me the other day but then i think i blew my chances by telling them i hate office environment.

circa 1998, a Petronas engineer fresh grad will get around RM2300
dunno about today though

starting pay is 2510 for fresh grad.

you might need their reply as long as six months

yea, usually they'll give you 6 months period..the best thing for you to do is, call the hrm department, then ask them for you interview status..if your status is recommended, then just wait for vacancy they will call you..but if you are not recommended, then you have to wait for another 2 years then you can apply back.

That is pretty long! I have actually written several emails but no reply.

Thanks for your reply. Are you working in Petronas?

How do you think about working environment of Petronas compared to Schlumberger? Which one is better in term of life, environment, safety, benefits and etc?...thanks..

which bussiness unit?
dagangan? gas? engineering?

engineering

just go..

then u will start complain lots of things.. such as underpaid (compare ur counterpart in other company), workload too much while ur technician overtime more than what u have per month..

gain knowledge.. gain exp.. 5-6 years.. then u can start to make a move..

even u are in engineering.. it doesn't means u will work as pure engineer.. some will works as executive such as planner, contract, procurement.. don't expect much on that..

hi how has you stay at petronas been? Ive been offered a position as well, will be joining in july.

Actually 6 months is quite long. But some OnG company still practise such policy. I think there are alot of opportunity in petronas. Its a place you can learn and develop skills. i heard they provide lots of training. And when the time's right or you feel you're worthy you can start thinking on joining other companies with the current background achieved.

*seventh7* utpian? cause I recalled seeing such name before in the IRC.

Yes, they are racist, so?
Uh! I thought we all knows everthing has something to do with bumi will be considered as racist.
If you know already then dont join. Got prob with that?
~Sick with this kind of mindset.

This post has been edited by izdyharz: May 29 2008, 06:08 PM

I use to have the similar mindset during my studies years. But once i'd started working with them, I'd realized that there are some whom posses capabilites far beyond our reach. Don't generalized bumi as a so called puppets in an organization. For them to come up to that level, they too have their skill and competence. Yes they have earn my respect. If there's one bumi boss whom you clarify acts as a boss and does nothing then who is the boss? clearly the one in charge behind sure cannot tahan and resign due to underpay and overworks. Please change your mind set. everyone of us is human. we are no different from earning a bowl of rice. Difference might be on the amount. If you're good a company is willing to hire you with large sum of money regardless of position. At the end of the day, its completing the job till the deadline that counts. So don't be a stereotype.

I heard slb offers much higher salary for freshies compared to pet..IMO, actually work wit any company at the beginning also the same..like wat most of the ppl says,gain experience 1st..with tat xperience u can hop to other OnG companies u like..try 1st loe..u wont noe by juz opinions frm other ppl..see frm yur eyes n u`ll noe better..if it`s reli `hopeless` to work wit them,then try to jump to other companies..luck man

cktwai,

personally, i am a bit offended for you saying this person having "relation".

this guy started off in PETRONAS as an engineer, from Sarawak. now he is the CEO of one of the PETRONAS Refinery that turns a money-losing company to a 2 billion net profit a year, and growing.

based on your comments, i think your posts is the stupid one, and have racist perception.

talk to any non-bumis in petronas and ask them about racism in petronas...everyone have the equal , fair chances to upgrade themselves, unless they do not want to upgrade themselves.

pc123,

slb do offer higher salary compared to pet, but again, they're US-based company , where they already giving higher paycheck compared to pet. again, if you want more money, you must be ready to be squeezed harder by your employer...got also friends who join slb, then go back to petronas because tak tahan working at slb...

gulps..i juz noe a tip of an ice berg bout slb...seriously tru? yeah lor...nth is free...the tougher it is..the higher the pay..so many ppl choose pet? wat bout shell? i heard ppl usually take slb as a stepping stone for career ladder..then jump here n there..

Btw,TS y dun u go read tru the OnG thread..tat shud provide u mor information..

This post has been edited by pc123: May 30 2008, 12:02 AM

SLB's pay is good or should i say one of the few highest paid service company, but expect to work hard for that amount of money.

Shell's benefit is better but you have to ensure there's improvement in terms of personal capabilities where else in Petronas, the working pressure is a bit laid off and you can spend most of your time with family and friends. Well its based on my dad's years of experience with both companies, both in SSB and in Brunei as well as permanent Pet and contract based in Pet

tis thursday i will hv an interview with petronas, in the Corporate planning&business development department, particularly Merger and acquisition..
i was told that it was structure interview with appropriate case studies, i just wonder if tis case studies are related to M&A which i hv no idea much for example asset valuation,etc..plus the salary is quite attractive too for fresh grad..i rejected bursa last week hopefully tis would be better prospect..

hi, how did you secure the interview with petronas? thru its "discover petronas" ? how long it took for them to contact you?

Ita a good chance, get the jobs and don't change jobs anymore.
you cannot beat the challenge outside once your in, they divided the department too much, so too little jobs is done for the bigger paid.
my uncle is in the company with RM 7k paid, he said he wanted to switch company but he scare he cant take the challenge from other private company.
he told me every day so little thing to do, 2 to 3 finish work, then surf net till 6, go home. every day like this. All up to you, A Challenging jobs? A secure jobs?
Well, im more to challenging side.. haha..

yssee85, can u please ask ur uncle how can i get in?
please i really need the job.

i apply through its website..it takes 2month finally got screening..if u can get insider,i think should be fast..

HBK, i wish you good luck in your interview today. awaiting your good news to share with us.

Hi,

I just went for 1st interview at Petronas job related to OPI(Operating Performance Improvement), i have been informed that i was shortlisted and HR will call me for the 2nd interview where i will get the assesment also/...

Pls let me knw how the assesment like?
I heard its kinda long time to wait for 2nd interview. How long that can b?

Need SiFu advice

one of my target companies by next year..

Hi,

I just went for 1st interview at Petronas job related to OPI(Operating Performance Improvement), i have been informed that i was shortlisted and HR will call me for the 2nd interview where i will get the assessment also/...

Pls let me knw how the assessment like?
I heard its kinda long time to wait for 2nd interview (HR sloww). How long that can b?

Need SiFu advice

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Added on September 12, 2008, 10:23 amHi,

I just went for 1st interview at Petronas job related to OPI(Operating Performance Improvement), i have been informed that i was shortlisted and HR will call me for the 2nd interview where i will get the assessment also/...

Pls let me knw how the assessment like?
I heard its kinda long time to wait for 2nd interview (HR sloww). How long that can b?

Need SiFu advice

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Added on September 12, 2008, 10:24 amHi,

I just went for 1st interview at Petronas job related to OPI(Operating Performance Improvement), i have been informed that i was shortlisted and HR will call me for the 2nd interview where i will get the assessment also/...

Pls let me knw how the assessment like?
I heard its kinda long time to wait for 2nd interview (HR sloww). How long that can b?

Need SiFu advice

This post has been edited by pyareaishq: Sep 12 2008, 10:24 AM

U dont actually work with petronas, rather you work "for" petronas.

Btw their technical engineering ppl are nearly non-existent since they outsource most of the jobs to companies like shell, exxon mobile and contractors whom my father previously worked for which was conoco.

All they do now is just become supervisor and ask us how is the status and then go back to office and do reports.

This post has been edited by crapp0: Sep 12 2008, 10:38 AM

i dun know bout the 1st interview,all i know its about candidate screening or so called "chit-chat" session with ur departmental officer. around 2 weeks than they will call for ur structured interview which for me its really really pressure enough. there are 3 round.. consists of case studies, role play (be careful with tis one )and normal interview..followed by math questions and job related questions.. which can be up to 48 questions..under less than 30minutes.. overall its a very long and tired day..

applied for petronas last week and still awaiting for a reply.....hai long wait

Thanks alot for the info. No wonder they say its gonna take the whole day.
So after dat how long its take for them to get back with you?
I heard the HR very SLOW in these stuff? is dat true??

can i know how to apply work with petronas is?
btw does petronas really need high qualification for the job?

new fresh graduate basic salary 3.5k increase 40%

l need to change job

wow
thats nice () so lucky to those who can enter petronas =)
btw any position for accounting grads?

you so good luck. i pass my resume for 2 time but still haven't get reply... i got friends work in petronas and shell sarawak. really good benefit..

Heard that 3.5k for fresh grad is not come just like that.. Those fresh grad won't have the retirement benefit or less retirement benefit as compared to previous batch employee..

Fresh grad student I think is harder to get into Petronas since mostly they take from their own sponsored student at Universiti Teknologi Petronas.. Every 6months more than 150++ Petronas sponsored graduated from UTP.. Heard from friends who intern at Petronas, the culture there is not good but think the culture may vary from dept and dept.. While UTP sponsored malays students tried to absorb into Petronas, most UTP sponsored chinese student tried to escape from being absorb by Petronas coz they aim for other oil n gas company or simply because does not like be in the Petronas culture..

For the interview structure, it's the same for recruiting fresh grad and experienced candidate where need to undergo:-
1. Writing Test (More to ethical questions)
2. Numerial Test
3. Verbal Test (sort of english comprehension test)
4. Occupational Personality Questionaire (Personality test for them to know in detail about your personality)
5. Interview (Have 4 stages)
5.1. Background Check
5.2 Case Study
5.3 Competency based Interview
5.4 Role Play

I agree on a thing.. The HR is slow..

3 - 4 weeks. I was interviewed last month, and got the result early this week. Btw you have to call them for recommendation status if you want to get the result faster.

IC... so hows things got the offer... congrats inadv

PETRONAS is one of The New Seven Sisters. I'm so proud of it.

i am not a petronas scholar..
but i got a chance to do my internship at petronas OPU..
will petronas give me a job position after i graduated???
will i get higher probability to join petronas???
i'm just curious...
my senior who is now working with petronas carigali said my chance just also 50-50...

It all depends. Make sure you get recommendation letters from your superior during the internship. That'll help quite abit. If they have areas within the division that needs your expertise, then they can make a case for you. It'll still be 50-50, but at least if during your interview you can run examples of how you performed during your internship, the ins & outs of Petronas and knowing the various other OPU's help too. All the best!

thank you for your advise gfunk11..
i just hope can be more confident to compete with petronas's scholar..

if u r a malay, ignore this question.

if u r a chinese, give me 10 GOOD reasons y u wanna join petronas as freshie.

This post has been edited by bananageek: Sep 22 2008, 01:40 AM

i suggest u guy to join MURPHY oil or TALISMAN for more benefit...

so mamadox, u r getting the new basic salary at 3.5k or the old scheme 2.5k?
nway, hows ur work at kerteh?

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Added on September 24, 2008, 4:45 pmemm..bumis dont mind working under non bumis (alhough if they mind, but they understand, industries like, OnG, semicon, mostly the higher ups are non bumis) but it seems non bumis really mind to work under bumis...

This post has been edited by squall_kay: Sep 24 2008, 04:45 PM

What so special for Petronas? I really cannot understand. Looking for the reply above... It look good for UTP/ Bumis student

By the ways, do you know how Petronas make profit?

Petronas wealth basically runs this country. 20 to 30 percent of this country's budget comes from Petronas.



Source

Sad thing is its a bumi "exclusive" company.

Hi,
Need ur help. I went for assesment last month on 3rd week jus got an mail saying that.

Dear XXXXXXXX,

Interviewed Date: 23 September 2008

Thank you for participating in the above interview.

Please be informed that you have been placed in our list of potential candidates.

Should there be a suitable position available within six (6) months that commensurate with your qualification and experience, we will notify you.

Yours sincerely,
on behalf of
Group Talent Sourcing
PETRONAS


Dont really understand.. is dat mean that i dint get the job now n i need to wait for the further reference or how... need ur help
thkls alot

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Added on October 21, 2008, 1:54 amHi,
Need ur help. I went for assesment last month on 3rd week jus got an mail saying that.

Dear XXXXXXXX,

Interviewed Date: 23 September 2008

Thank you for participating in the above interview.

Please be informed that you have been placed in our list of potential candidates.

Should there be a suitable position available within six (6) months that commensurate with your qualification and experience, we will notify you.

Yours sincerely,
on behalf of
Group Talent Sourcing
PETRONAS


Dont really understand.. is dat mean that i dint get the job now n i need to wait for the further reference or how... need ur help
thkls alot

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Added on October 21, 2008, 1:56 amHi,
Need ur help. I went for assesment last month on 3rd week jus got an mail saying that.

Dear XXXXXXXX,

Interviewed Date: 23 September 2008

Thank you for participating in the above interview.

Please be informed that you have been placed in our list of potential candidates.

Should there be a suitable position available within six (6) months that commensurate with your qualification and experience, we will notify you.

Yours sincerely,
on behalf of
Group Talent Sourcing
PETRONAS


Dont really understand.. is dat mean that i dint get the job now n i need to wait for the further reference or how... need ur help
thkls alot

This post has been edited by pyareaishq: Oct 21 2008, 01:56 AM

Hi,

I'm not that sure what's happening but the almost the same happened to graduating Petronas scholar in UTP. All Petronas scholar in UTP are obligated to attend the Petronas structured interview and they will be notify either they are "recommended" for any Petronas position after they report to klcc upon receiving their final sem result. I think you are now "recommended" for a position in Petronas and they are finding for a suitable position for you. Similar to UTP Petronas scholar, when they being notify that they are "recommended", they need to wait up to 6months period in order to get a Petronas job. However, for UTP Petronas scholar, it's not 100% guarantee that they will get a offer from Petronas within the 6 months. If they do not receive any offer within 6 months, they are consider being release from bonding obligations. Petronas offer might eventually come after 6 months period but at this point of time, a Petronas scholar are not obligated and required to work with Petronas (Of course if they want, they can chose to work at Petronas even receiving the offer after the 6 months period).

So, in your case I think what can you do is wait. Hopefully they will reply you a.s.a.p. However, I'm not sure either they will consider offering you a position after the 6 months period.

p/s:- I thought such uncertainty and gray area only happened for Petronas UTP scholar. Never expect that they are using the same procedure for recruiting professionals. Really no comment on it.

hrmmm....maybe the same way goes to...

if u r a chinese, ignore this question.

if u r a malay, give me 10 GOOD reasons y u wanna join a semicond company as freshie.

pretty sad....after 50yrs of independence....we still have this 3rd class mindset....wake up guys!!!

I heard before, that Petronas will restructuring again their IT Department, means iPerintis will absorb into Petronas IT Department, no more outsourcing company. Is this true?, who can confirm bout this?

im in the semiconductor industry and im malay, im in finance and im one of the 4-5 malay out of 340 chinese. I don't see any issue, why suddenly kick in a racial issue here ?

Coz semicon company which is usually mnc dont have a stringent policy about race, petronas on the other hand practices it like how najib practices hindu rituals.

I had a few friends and even my dad used to work under petronas as sub-contractors which was the only way they could get a job doing work for petronas, working directly for petronas was impossible becoz of the bumi quota they set.

just wondering..am thinking of applying for a job in petronas, to try my luck.

However, i'm not an engineer nor from any technical background. Mine is more on the soft skill type i.e. business communictions. does that mean my chances will be extremely slim?

the only method of trying my luck is depositing my resume via their website?

no worries, just believe in yourself.

Petronas do have a lot on non bumi staff. Bonuses and perks, one of the best.

I heard the best is Khazanah!

Just got an offer for petronas for some weird position.. Operational performance Improvement or OPI in a petrochemical plant, Kerteh. Anyone heard of this post before?? My background is control/instrument engineering. Now doing offshore work on regular basis. Don't know whether to accept Petronas or not. Heard that this OPI is a non-engineering desk job. Advise needed here... Please someone out there.

who's working with petronas?..im looking 4ward to work wif petronas...i'm in oil n gas industry as well...hehehe...

I want to work with PETRONAS too! uwarghhhhhhhhh!

sounds more like 6 sigma. Have you tried asking the pay? the pay should be good

OPI department as far what i know department which is monitor the plant performance. still needed engineering background. do a lot of calculation.
i don't know much because i'm work in operation department. just join petronas @ kerteh for 4 months.

my friend work in OPI department

OPI is a very challenging job actually. You task is to improve the operational performance, like improve process output, reliability, downtime, etc. OPI is more towards process than instrument and control. You will learn a great deal of petrochemical process and control.

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Added on December 30, 2008, 8:10 amBy the way, I am a chinese fresh grad working in Petronas. There are currently 2 chinese in my section, and quite number of chinese and indian, and other non-malay (i.e. sarawakian, sabahan) in my entire department. Had a few chinese friends working in other OPU.

My GM is a chinese. There are other high position management i.e. SM, GM that are non-malay, which not many people aware off unless you are from the industry.

Career progression is very structured here. All staff get equal opportunity for training, work exposure. I work in technical side, engineering. Everyone here is very professional, and boss treated everyone equally.

But then again, this is my personal experience. What you have heard from a friend, of a friend, of a friend, of a friend..... could be true. But I can assure you, there is nothing like master and slave, discrimination, etc.

This post has been edited by Aurora: Dec 30 2008, 08:10 AM

OPI - easy desk job. But I'd rather not work for petronas. That's Y i freelance hehehe better pay and to hell with their benefits lolx. its all about the money bebeh! lolx been freelancing for years now lolx

anybody in PETRONAS could furnish me with information on which department I should aim for during interview with Group Talent Sourcing??

Interview is coming soon, and because i did my internship in a construction company. I am not well-informed about the departments and sections inside PETRONAS group.

by the way, I'm a PETRONAS scholar from UTP, graduated in CIVIL ENGINEERING.

many thanks in advance for the info!

i suggest you submit your resume to http://www.discoverpetronas.com/ and the HR Dept will take it from there... must be patient, it can take months for them to respond to your application

all I know is that Petronas has only a few number of experts in many particular fields. Many experts have left Petronas due to the wages and Petronas likes to hire freelances.

Why do you feel wages in Petronas is not competitive in the region?

If so, which Ong company gives the best rate?

Thanks. Would love to know.

ps. Not to say doubt you but just want to know where to go myself

This post has been edited by kaiserwulf: Jan 2 2009, 12:10 PM

They give good benefits.

Indeed, there are other company which offer much higher salary than PETRONAS. Many of them left to middle east, while others move on to other local company and international company. But mostly still work within this region, based at ASEAN country, Sg, Msia. People leave for several reasons:

1. Money (majority)
2. Promotion (majority)
3. Change Working Environment
4. Looking for Challenge
5. PETRONAS HR transfer them to other location, change job description which not to their liking
6. Others

For fresh grad, only Shell, Exxon, Schlumberger, Bakers have more attractive package. Other company i.e. consultants, contractors are generally lower.

Thanks aurora, excellent reply.

To those who wants to work for Petronas, just keep trying. Its a good company. Especially if you have the passion to contribute to the nation. Petronas pays relatively low compared to industty average (other O&G companies) but in relation to other industries, they are still one of the best.

For those doubting working culture in Petronas, don't take hearsay (from friends etc) on face value. Those who said their friends say working culture is not good, i will ask them they have compared with who? have they experienced working in other companies? Its down to our mentality. If we don't have the drive and motivation, working in other major oil companies wont change who we are. In the end we might quit or not get contracts renewed. Focus on our attitude only and no matter where we will work, we will succeed is my motto.

Petronas suffers in terms of people leaving the company due to relatively low pay but the fact is Petronas is up there fighting with the group outside the Big 4 (Shell, Exxon etc). Staff are mostly young but if you enjoy a challenge, you'll find it satisfying. I am a junior engineer but have been given the trust and freedom to shoulder responsibilities of senior positions. I enjoy it but it ain't easy you know.

And the rumours about promotion and future if you are non bumi are not true. I have a lot of bosses who are non bumi and you will know a good person when you see one. Being bumi doesn't guarantee anything in terms of promotion. Petronas has strict standards for promotion and as many non bumi friends you believe has not progressed because you think they are non bumi, believe me there are as many bumi as well who has not progressed because there are others who performed better and progressed. I have a lot of non bumi bosses who has nothing but positive things to say about Petronas. in a nutshell, i could categorically state that this rumour is not true.

OPI is a good department and plays a major role. They analyse problem and propose tweaks and improvement to increase performance/efficiency. A lot of thinking and brainstorming. If you love problem solving then OPI wont be short of any. I just read that one of the first thing Barrack Obama did was to setup some kind of OPI department in the US for performance improvement. http://leaninsider.productivitypress.com/2...ce-officer.html

All in all, i would have to say that its down to us and i dont know much about other companies but i can assure the challenge is there when working in Petronas.

This post has been edited by bojan: Feb 12 2009, 12:12 AM

1 of my friend said that petronas do look into your SPM result..because his CGPA is below 3, but he got excellent result in SPM and he got the job..

in their application form, they want SPM result in every subject unlike degree, they just ask the CGPA and nothing more