im going to tender my resignation after they annouce the bonus...

cant seems to get it right, im from tech background and placed on non tech post... got a project post, denied...and again being denied for another tech post..eventho the receiving party wanted me in...but the fact that releasing party must first "allow" it...

heck... enough is enough with all those policy of transferring and enough with all the sweet promises... when the time come the bosses said..."u need to understand the business needs for our department"

duh...jumping back to my old industry... eventho the workload is double but im happy there...

This post has been edited by emptycube: Jun 2 2010, 11:24 PM

its been 2 years..and its even harder if once ur in E2 and jump to other SKG...

i've been trying hard...project post denied...confirm tech post rquire 3 ppl..denied again..

accepting party more than happy to accept me...but releasing haish...

im stuck at this part of malaysia...whereby most of the ppl here are very close-minded type of ppl... WELL its not really a big deal but its add up to my frustration,

lifestyle, if u prefer calm and no jam place it the place to be...i love it....but if ur really city type person...its not suitable lah

just most of the ppl here are ...well as mentioned earlier .....more towards *minded type of person....

bonus...usually will be on month of <PM me> payroll but its all depends on president announcement aswell.

This post has been edited by emptycube: Jun 4 2010, 11:05 AM

hi simple person, u've been in my situation thus you know hows the birocratic process right?...

anyway its a decision of my future tho... since this company do have the unwritten policy on whoever resign cant join back kind of thing.

should i requote m,y statement??

i love the environment here eh,,,

i know,,, something worst beyond my expectation happened yesterday which as up the push factor... paiseh..

well i guess i've made my decision..working with these company is really good howver. depends on the crowd you were placed.... and yes office politics is a must to survive...being straight outspoken and honest (attitude) will lead to the situation as what im ffacing now....

initially wanted to wait for bonus...but heck..im tendering tomoro

hehe cheers mate

thx for your reply bro,


it seems like im not alone in this departing boat.. there are other boats which already departed due to same reason,

tender notice is 3 months.... darn... but i have to start looking for a job now or else i'll be forking out my savings to pay my debts..

to simple person = going to pm you some personal questions soon, by tonite i'll shoot it..

let me answer it on HR point of view at the place where am i working because every E3 Sg ppl is a HR manager/change agent, part of the initiative start by the HR here

I will tell you what usually happened in PETRONAS

1) which PETRONAS, i would say in general especially the HR OPU's failed to do, they took the recommended candidate from the pool and simply fill the vacant position (especially position for these 3 particular department HR, Supply Chain and Performance Integirty). reason behind it, its the HR department KPI not to have vacant position for more than 3 months. Thus creating lotsa problem ie; Freshie in technical background (IT)/Business field experienced candidates being placed in the department which got nothing to do with their past working experienced/studies.

2) The tracking mechanism is there, but please be informed that for freshie (uspecially for those whom bonded with petronas scholar) have no choice, even if they voice it out, the HR answer it somehow like "another requesting for transfer case" attitude. and freshie whom is not bonded they are too afraid to let it go since they had joined PETRONAS..Most of it.....as for experienced entry (like me) i did voice it out, but their answer will be "there is no vacant Box for your placement, sorry we cant accomodate your request, even if you did find the box on your own, the boss will not release you (most cases)

3) they called it feasibility studies on position, which they did every 3 years previously, and the new president give a hint to do it every year since the industry is moving fast... but i do not know what is it nor see any difference accept for the new rem packages.

4) Counselling, it will be USELESS if engage the counselor from PETRONAS as they wont really hear you as they are tied to company policy. thus whatever advice they give will be pro company....

5) Retention strategy...... to avoid any attrition cases due to better offer from other company or pinching activity by other company..the result is as of now PETRONAS is doing revision and had it implemented starting this month, will better package to executive staff

6) Manpower utilization, HR job is ssubmit the position description together with on the job relevancy by line department to GTCM every year. GTCm will evaluate it and check whether it is under utilized, over utlized or OK, if under utilized usually will lead to box deletion, over utilized lead to box addition and ok means stano.

hope i answered your questions from HR point of view in PETRONAS...

eventho im quitting the company but still there are some statement i've made which defending this company, i have to admit the company is great! but depends on which crowd you were in.

This post has been edited by emptycube: Jun 10 2010, 12:00 AM

hi jauzi,

as simple minded said, your question is toooo general,

if you narrow down your question such as

"who is the senior manager for maintenance department PCSB, CHO...maybe we can help you to answer it"

FYI PCSB got 7 devision (not sure on the new structure tho), each devision got SGM, and some devision got few GM, thus if you narrow down. the hierachy, well....my location itself got 11 SM.

you may ask the HR on the job description (JD)

everysingle position is bound to single PID (position ID) and each PID has its own JD,

usually they will give you once ur inside the system (report duty)