Investment THE FENNEL @ SENTUL EAST by YTL (V2), Sentul East KL
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 Nov 6 2015, 05:32 PM, updated 11y ago
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Version 2 Thread for The Fennel @ Sentul East by YTL, Sentul East YTL
Continue from previous thread: Version 1: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2580344/+2580 Property Details Name: The Fennel @ Sentul East) Address: Sentul, Kuala Lumpur Type: Condominium Tenure: Freehold No. of Blocks: 4 No. of Storey: 38 No. of Units: 916 Land Area: 6.5 acres Developer: YTL Land & Development 
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Nov 6 2015, 05:37 PM
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This thread is for discussion only
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Nov 6 2015, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Prop321 @ Nov 6 2015, 12:51 PM) Floating pool under construction nice    thanks for sharing |
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Nov 6 2015, 07:36 PM
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Nov 6 2015, 08:49 PM
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Rm700psf for new block dual key unit...still good to go in?
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Nov 7 2015, 10:42 AM
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all photos you want to see la.
When is the last launch je? The Fennel by YTL (Construction Progress Update) |
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Nov 7 2015, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(VincentProperty @ Nov 6 2015, 05:37 PM) This thread is for discussion only If not discusssion, what else can it be?  |
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Nov 7 2015, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 6 2015, 08:49 PM) Rm700psf for new block dual key unit...still good to go in? What's the initial launching price?700psf is not too bad, as Saffron are transacting at 650+psf now..what's the maintenance fee for Fennel? |
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Nov 7 2015, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 6 2015, 08:49 PM) Rm700psf for new block dual key unit...still good to go in? New block?Dual key? I assume not more than 1200 sq ft but only RM 700 psf for Fennel? I thought previous launches were much higher than this tag. |
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Nov 7 2015, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(NickyEng @ Nov 7 2015, 10:44 AM) If not discusssion, what else can it be? some agents would come & spam with promo / special terms  |
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Nov 8 2015, 10:15 AM
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The current Casper and earlier phases have difficulties to rent out. More launches coming to fill up the market.
Blood bath in the subsales and rental market |
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Nov 8 2015, 03:21 PM
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I'm really interested for The Fennel. Can PM me the details ah?
Edit: Their Starhill showroom unit isn't open everyday isit? I'm having trouble reaching them on phone. This post has been edited by Gamecon: Nov 8 2015, 03:37 PM |
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Nov 8 2015, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(Gamecon @ Nov 8 2015, 03:21 PM) I'm really interested for The Fennel. Can PM me the details ah? Go to sentul sales officeEdit: Their Starhill showroom unit isn't open everyday isit? I'm having trouble reaching them on phone. |
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Nov 8 2015, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Nov 8 2015, 10:15 AM) The current Casper and earlier phases have difficulties to rent out. More launches coming to fill up the market. Rental rate problem?Blood bath in the subsales and rental market |
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Nov 8 2015, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(Asali @ Nov 8 2015, 08:24 PM) Rental rate problem? plenty of supplies chasing a limited number of tenants. |
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QUOTE(Asali @ Nov 8 2015, 08:24 PM) Rental rate problem? Aiyoh. Where have you been.... Majority condo in KV have this problem.  You are thinking otherwise...... |
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Nov 8 2015, 11:56 PM
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have a friend renting 1k sqft ff in kapers for 2k.
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Nov 9 2015, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Nov 8 2015, 11:56 PM) have a friend renting 1k sqft ff in kapers for 2k. good for the people who rent now, good value of money, 2k can stay in this class of condo... |
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Nov 9 2015, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Nov 8 2015, 10:48 PM) plenty of supplies chasing a limited number of tenants. Do not it is a supplies issueAfter Saffron completed in 2010, between Capers and then zero condos are completed And between capers and completion of Fennels, it is a good 3-4years. |
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Nov 9 2015, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Nov 8 2015, 11:56 PM) have a friend renting 1k sqft ff in kapers for 2k. good for your friend |
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Nov 19 2015, 03:11 PM
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Final block of Fennels launched? How's the sales response? Typically YTL will put out full page of sold blocks.
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Dec 8 2015, 04:47 PM
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Looking for rental this area
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Dec 29 2015, 07:39 PM
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Just got an email 20mins ago for last block launch promo.
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Dec 29 2015, 09:37 PM
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Any details about the installment plan?
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Dec 30 2015, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Dec 29 2015, 10:37 PM) Any details about the installment plan? Wow interest free instalment plans for up to 2 years for 20% dp!  Good one from YTL!Should make it 30% dp as many ppl would already have 2 props in hand. |
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Dec 30 2015, 07:46 AM
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The response is that poor?
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Dec 30 2015, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Dec 30 2015, 08:46 AM) The response is that poor? Slow prop market ma bro, some more high loan rejection rates so good move by YTL to boost sales. |
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Dec 30 2015, 08:44 AM
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How much is Fennel last block?
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Dec 30 2015, 08:50 AM
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interest free 2 years installment plans for 20% dp, think that easy? if said the prop selling at 1 million, 20% is 200k.
1. ur credit card limit must more than 200k 2. u need to pay up 200k in 2 years. with the 2 point above, Ur financial grade is super A+++ lol. No point bank will reject ur loan coz u can pay the prop easily. |
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Dec 30 2015, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Dec 30 2015, 09:50 AM) interest free 2 years installment plans for 20% dp, think that easy? if said the prop selling at 1 million, 20% is 200k. 1. ur credit card limit must more than 200k 2. u need to pay up 200k in 2 years. with the 2 point above, Ur financial grade is super A+++ lol. No point bank will reject ur loan coz u can pay the prop easily.  Use 3 or more cards la bro, each card at least 70K credit limit!  DSR will not be affected because when the loan application is being reviewed, u only paid the booking fees earlier. Only after it is approved, then only u use the credit cards! This post has been edited by BRE: Dec 30 2015, 08:55 AM |
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Dec 30 2015, 09:03 AM
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I think the assumption is the buyer already has at least 10% of the purchase price but they are worried their loan applications might get rejected. So this is like a safety net for them. Therefore they only need to pay up 10% in installments and the balance in cash. Those who can pay 8k each month for 2 years wouldn't need this facility.
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Dec 30 2015, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 30 2015, 08:53 AM) Use 3 or more cards la bro, each card at least 70K credit limit! DSR will not be affected because when the loan application is being reviewed, u only paid the booking fees earlier. Only after it is approved, then only u use the credit cards! It should be ideal for properties around RM 500-700k but thats great if the developer wiling to absorb the free interest of up to 20%. |
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Dec 30 2015, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 30 2015, 08:53 AM) Use 3 or more cards la bro, each card at least 70K credit limit! DSR will not be affected because when the loan application is being reviewed, u only paid the booking fees earlier. Only after it is approved, then only u use the credit cards! so far my experience with other developer is they only allow 1 card and 1 transaction. cannot split the bill in difference bill. |
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Dec 30 2015, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Dec 30 2015, 10:40 AM) good idea, are they allow 3 cards? This one I dono bro, got to ask YTL, but it is good if theey allow more than 1 card! so far my experience with other developer is they only allow 1 card and 1 transaction. cannot split the bill in difference bill. In this time when it is so difficult to get loans, it is good to act smart & outmanoeuvre the bank to get the loan so that you can get the prop that you want! This post has been edited by BRE: Dec 30 2015, 10:35 AM |
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Dec 30 2015, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Dec 29 2015, 09:37 PM) Any details about the installment plan? How much and how big is the unit size?Freehold? |
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Dec 30 2015, 11:56 AM
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I would prefer if ytl can mark up the price and rebate 20%
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Dec 30 2015, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 30 2015, 10:33 AM) This one I dono bro, got to ask YTL, but it is good if theey allow more than 1 card! reset the credit card limit to 250k lo...easy. In this time when it is so difficult to get loans, it is good to act smart & outmanoeuvre the bank to get the loan so that you can get the prop that you want!  The Fennel block D started windows panelling installation. Check here for the pic. The Fennel progress update dated 21/12/2015 |
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Dec 31 2015, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE(NickyEng @ Dec 30 2015, 06:45 PM) reset the credit card limit to 250k lo...easy. If salary is at least 50K pm then can ask to increase credit limit la bro! The Fennel block D started windows panelling installation. Check here for the pic. The Fennel progress update dated 21/12/2015 |
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Jan 4 2016, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE(ewingcher @ Jan 4 2016, 03:10 AM) Update nice. Is photo yours? Can i put them in my blog for your credit? |
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YTL sent out mails to promote the easy installment for downpayment and with credit card too. Time is bad. It is for next phase Fennel. Dont think they dare to up the price from previous phase.
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Jan 5 2016, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jan 5 2016, 02:53 PM) YTL sent out mails to promote the easy installment for downpayment and with credit card too. Time is bad. It is for next phase Fennel. Dont think they dare to up the price from previous phase. It is 1000+ unit development. I think it is expected YTL couldn't fully sell off the project before VP. In fact i think it is quite commendable given cheapest unit is probably from RM800K. |
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jan 5 2016, 01:53 PM) YTL sent out mails to promote the easy installment for downpayment and with credit card too. Time is bad. It is for next phase Fennel. Dont think they dare to up the price from previous phase. Fren told me last block is the worst, especially noise pollution from the junction and LRT |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jan 5 2016, 04:05 PM) Fren told me last block is the worst, especially noise pollution from the junction and LRT The last block also has KLCC view i think |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jan 5 2016, 04:45 PM) The last block also has KLCC view i think Wait for new phase of ytl project ... Blocked later...you should visit dbkl n see the plan |
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seen from my balcony this afternoon
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Mar 28 2016, 07:25 PM
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Its been very quiet off late. New norm i guess! Block C is still on hold for sale. How long can they hold? Jia lat
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QUOTE(peace_lover @ Mar 26 2016, 06:01 PM) seen from my balcony this afternoon The KL tower looks magnified...... |
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the dual key unit still dun wan to launch...
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QUOTE(surf-it @ Mar 29 2016, 11:43 PM) the dual key unit still dun wan to launch... Largely due to poor market sentiment that lead to the delay in the launch. vP schedule in 1H 2018. They need to launch before that. I guess gua. |
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QUOTE(peace_lover @ Mar 26 2016, 05:01 PM) seen from my balcony this afternoon Oh, you took it from Symphony Height? good view.. |
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With one iconic building it looks amazing. But with many similar buildings there make it like a mess.
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Block D's cladding is partially installed.
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QUOTE(ewingcher @ Nov 13 2016, 11:42 AM) Block D's cladding is partially installed. Finally an update....after so long. |
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Another block start installing..
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What are sizes available in block C? Expected Price per square feet? Tx
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 27 2016, 10:28 AM) What are sizes available in block C? Expected Price per square feet? Tx Interested to know it too. |
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hey gust sentul raya in the middle, left is fennel, then right one is what ?
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http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...l-builds-homes/
Go to the last paragraph. YTL bought remaining stake in Sentul Raya via cash and also sold 54 units of Fennel to KTMB 😎 |
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QUOTE(mthc @ Dec 16 2016, 08:08 PM) http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...l-builds-homes/ Not sure what went into ktm's mind but with mrt2 at sentul west doorstep and another near to the maple side, the only way property price will go is only up. Further more no gearings on the large piece of land and sentul raya can take sweet time to develop it without financing pressure.Go to the last paragraph. YTL bought remaining stake in Sentul Raya via cash and also sold 54 units of Fennel to KTMB 😎 |
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 16 2016, 10:39 PM) Not sure what went into ktm's mind but with mrt2 at sentul west doorstep and another near to the maple side, the only way property price will go is only up. Further more no gearings on the large piece of land and sentul raya can take sweet time to develop it without financing pressure. Ktmb has been making losses so maybe it's d easiest n fastest option to get more cash |
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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 17 2016, 01:28 PM) Ktmb has been making losses so maybe it's d easiest n fastest option to get more cash YTL midfield 2 going to rename to kondominium Sg Besi 2. Do fennel rename too? |
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Is she sexy?
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Mar 15 2017, 06:54 PM) Is she sexy? actually not too bad - only that with so many blocks of the same same, the novelty is lesser for sure..
now become like a bit of a "mass production" |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Mar 15 2017, 08:38 PM) actually not too bad - only that with so many blocks of the same same, the novelty is lesser for sure.. one is unquenow become like a bit of a "mass production" two....ok special many.....geli feeling |
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Mar 15 2017, 08:38 PM) actually not too bad - only that with so many blocks of the same same, the novelty is lesser for sure.. now become like a bit of a "mass production" QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Mar 15 2017, 09:55 PM) one is unque Woo, geli than fennel and capers buyer heart break LOL.two....ok special many.....geli feeling |
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Mar 15 2017, 07:54 PM) Is she sexy? When u have blocks of unique building, it looks too dizzy.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Mar 15 2017, 10:56 PM) When u have blocks of unique building, it looks too dizzy. sentul east, the worm city  |
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Mar 15 2017, 10:56 PM) When u have blocks of unique building, it looks too dizzy. Obviously ytl is milking the architecture fee kau kau....Just mass production But still better looking at most klcc buildings....some of them really a waste of space This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Mar 16 2017, 01:16 AM |
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Wondering when gonna vp?
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One of the best looking condos in town but location surrounding ummmm no komen ahaha..if tis located in Mont Kiara wow prestigiuos
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Apr 30 2017, 10:09 AM
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Anyone know if they still have units for sale at fennel?
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QUOTE(selinix @ Apr 30 2017, 11:09 AM) Anyone know if they still have units for sale at fennel? Still got one block not open for sales yet.Drop by their Sales Gallery. |
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Apr 30 2017, 12:06 PM) Still got one block not open for sales yet. ytl this time back fired....Drop by their Sales Gallery. they thought by keeping one block then can sell sky high price later........ |
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Apr 30 2017, 12:06 PM) Still got one block not open for sales yet. I see, build to sell? I know maintenance fees for capers is 45 cents, how about fennel?Drop by their Sales Gallery. This post has been edited by selinix: Apr 30 2017, 12:19 PM |
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QUOTE(jmsthg @ Feb 8 2017, 03:26 AM) YTL midfield 2 going to rename to kondominium Sg Besi 2. Do fennel rename too? Aiyo kl condo oso no ang moh names like sgor? Nt kondo tengah padang 2? |
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QUOTE(BRE @ Apr 30 2017, 12:24 PM) Aiyo kl condo oso no ang moh names like sgor? Nt kondo tengah padang 2? I think KUL started first..........stand corrected.capers already changed its name lioa...... |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Apr 30 2017, 01:56 PM) I think KUL started first..........stand corrected. Changed to wat kapers or kapak?capers already changed its name lioa...... I remember this okr condo the rainz changed to residensi hujan wtf! This post has been edited by BRE: Apr 30 2017, 12:59 PM |
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QUOTE(BRE @ Apr 30 2017, 12:57 PM) Changed to wat kapers or kapak? cant remember...macam residensi mewah or some very loutou name..... |
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Apr 30 2017, 12:06 PM) Still got one block not open for sales yet. Where is their sales gallery ?Drop by their Sales Gallery. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Apr 30 2017, 01:59 PM) cant remember... Ang moh names doesnt mean we r glorifying d ex colonial masters ma , its 2 give d place d prestige n d glamour, all these chekai names make d place so chekai n lousymacam residensi mewah or some very loutou name..... |
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QUOTE(brother love @ Apr 30 2017, 09:54 AM) One of the best looking condos in town but location surrounding ummmm no komen ahaha..if tis located in Mont Kiara wow prestigiuos In MK also not the best. If beside tititwangsa than it is super gorgeous. Lake and KLCC for background. wonderful. |
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QUOTE(BRE @ Apr 30 2017, 01:05 PM) Ang moh names doesnt mean we r glorifying d ex colonial masters ma , its 2 give d place d prestige n d glamour, all these chekai names make d place so chekai n lousy I would blame the developers....bcos they are too lazy to think of a nice sounding malay name in the 1st place. there are so many nicer malay words can be used instead of the normal puteri putera mewah bahagia and etc......knowing all too well that the authority will change the name upon vped.or find some English name that there is no substitute in malay then they will just add an 'I' to replace the Y. |
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Apr 30 2017, 01:20 PM
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After GE excited to see their D8 D5 D2 and the new developement opposite the Sentul wet market
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Apr 30 2017, 01:25 PM
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Aiyo why chg all the condo names omg..super nonsense la tge authrities
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QUOTE(brother love @ Apr 30 2017, 01:25 PM) Aiyo why chg all the condo names omg..super nonsense la tge authrities If Malaysian authorities not nonsense people RM1 won't be S$0.30 |
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Apr 30 2017, 01:59 PM) If Malaysian authorities not nonsense people RM1 won't be S$0.30 0.30 also managed by same group of 'people' who previously come from RM1Why today's, both country have so much differed in term of global competitiveness?  |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Apr 30 2017, 01:09 PM) ytl this time back fired.... Standard ytl mah...they thought by keeping one block then can sell sky high price later........ |
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QUOTE(selinix @ Apr 30 2017, 01:19 PM) I see, build to sell? I know maintenance fees for capers is 45 cents, how about fennel? Keep to sell at higher price gua....Ylt ccondo maint fees all very geng...thatsy security, landscape and maintenance r superb. Saffron tamarind maple capers...all so well maintained. For the older one...JMB has like Rm4-5m cash sitting in the bank account... Should be 30-45cent psf |
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May 11 2017, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ May 11 2017, 10:15 PM) Keep to sell at higher price gua.... no way going to be 30 cents.. definitely 40 cents and above, last i remember capers is 45 cents and that already KLCC property range of maintenance feesYlt ccondo maint fees all very geng...thatsy security, landscape and maintenance r superb. Saffron tamarind maple capers...all so well maintained. For the older one...JMB has like Rm4-5m cash sitting in the bank account... Should be 30-45cent psf |
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May 11 2017, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ May 11 2017, 10:15 PM) Keep to sell at higher price gua.... no way going to be 30 cents.. definitely 40 cents and above, last i remember capers is 45 cents and that already KLCC property range of maintenance feesYlt ccondo maint fees all very geng...thatsy security, landscape and maintenance r superb. Saffron tamarind maple capers...all so well maintained. For the older one...JMB has like Rm4-5m cash sitting in the bank account... Should be 30-45cent psf |
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May 11 2017, 10:21 PM
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Fennel has more than 900units
PSF wise the MF may spread over the units and therefore maybe will be cheaper than Capers. |
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May 11 2017, 10:22 PM
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this project current selling price is and size?
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May 11 2017, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ May 11 2017, 10:18 PM) no way going to be 30 cents.. definitely 40 cents and above, last i remember capers is 45 cents and that already KLCC property range of maintenance fees And that's in sentul lol. |
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May 12 2017, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ May 11 2017, 09:21 PM) Fennel has more than 900units Still got last tower haven't open for public, dunno YTL want to keep it until whenPSF wise the MF may spread over the units and therefore maybe will be cheaper than Capers. |
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May 12 2017, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(selinix @ May 11 2017, 11:18 PM) no way going to be 30 cents.. definitely 40 cents and above, last i remember capers is 45 cents and that already KLCC property range of maintenance fees Im putting a range. The sentul east west maintenance memang among the highest in town. |
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May 12 2017, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(heavensea @ May 11 2017, 11:56 PM) And that's in sentul lol. Cannot say lidat...if want to say like that then kampung baru condo also high maintenance fees...This is ytl...sentul east....not true blue old sentul. |
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May 12 2017, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ May 11 2017, 11:21 PM) Fennel has more than 900units Agree. The taikor has spoken.PSF wise the MF may spread over the units and therefore maybe will be cheaper than Capers. |
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May 12 2017, 01:09 PM
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Sentul east quite a nice place 2 stay, near kl cbd n can use sentul link 2 reach mahameru avoid d jams. But d shoplots still like hardly c any ppl there?
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May 12 2017, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(BRE @ May 12 2017, 01:09 PM) Sentul east quite a nice place 2 stay, near kl cbd n can use sentul link 2 reach mahameru avoid d jams. But d shoplots still like hardly c any ppl there? u mean sentul raya there?? well got cimb maybank is good enuff already. eyesore a bit maybe those shoplot opposite petron looks old n gloomy one. |
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May 12 2017, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(facktura @ May 12 2017, 09:26 PM) u mean sentul raya there?? well got cimb maybank is good enuff already. eyesore a bit maybe those shoplot opposite petron looks old n gloomy one. I mean d ones by ytl nt sentul raya |
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May 13 2017, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(BRE @ May 12 2017, 10:06 PM) I mean d ones by ytl nt sentul raya D7 and d6 are really quiet. Lots of empty lots |
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May 13 2017, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ May 12 2017, 09:13 AM) Im putting a range. The sentul east west maintenance memang among the highest in town. Confirmed it's .45 cents +10%sinking fund |
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May 13 2017, 12:34 AM
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Really mixed development.
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May 13 2017, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ May 13 2017, 01:30 AM) Confirmed it's .45 cents +10%sinking fund Thanks...maybe a loy of water features to maintain. |
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May 13 2017, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ May 13 2017, 12:34 AM) Really mixed development. Agreed with you A 'real' mix... Or Mix-up  |
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May 13 2017, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ May 13 2017, 12:34 AM) Really mixed development. lol gg🙄This post has been edited by heavensea: May 13 2017, 08:42 AM |
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May 13 2017, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ May 12 2017, 11:34 PM) Really mixed development. Symmetrical looks |
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May 13 2017, 10:06 AM
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Floating pool
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May 13 2017, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ May 13 2017, 07:52 AM) Thanks...maybe a loy of water features to maintain. Developer proposed free spa facilities at no additional cost. However due to heavy objection by residentd over concern of higher maintenance cost the proposal was scrapped. |
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Jun 12 2017, 05:57 PM
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What is the latest price now? N unit available ?
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Jun 20 2017, 07:26 PM
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Good news. Free air conditioning! Same as Capers then
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Jun 20 2017, 07:52 PM
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Very nice.......
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Jun 20 2017, 08:27 PM
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Very restrained, and that's sexy.
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Jun 20 2017, 09:51 PM
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lets see what YTL is going to offer to sell their remaining block
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Jun 20 2017, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(selinix @ Jun 20 2017, 09:51 PM) lets see what YTL is going to offer to sell their remaining block Sold to KTM already |
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Jun 20 2017, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jun 20 2017, 10:17 PM) Sold to KTM already to house ktm workers? |
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Jun 20 2017, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jun 20 2017, 10:17 PM) Sold to KTM already Whole last block of Fennel? |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jun 20 2017, 10:17 PM) Sold to KTM already wow really? ktm bhd is listed co, if true then it will be reported. |
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Jun 21 2017, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(Properlog @ Jun 20 2017, 11:00 PM) Whole last block of Fennel? 62 units as per YTL Land announcementTo contra with the purchase of 30% SentulRaya from KTM. |
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Jun 21 2017, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jun 21 2017, 10:44 AM) 62 units as per YTL Land announcement so any unsold unit for the public?To contra with the purchase of 30% SentulRaya from KTM. |
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Jun 21 2017, 09:46 AM
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House KTM gomen servants? 😝
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Jun 21 2017, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Jun 21 2017, 09:46 AM) so any unsold unit for the public? There should be because each block will house roughly 250units. I think YTL will open those unsold units after the transaction with KTM completed. |
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Jun 21 2017, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jun 21 2017, 10:52 AM) There should be because each block will house roughly 250units. I think YTL will open those unsold units after the transaction with KTM completed. What is taikor's analysis on the best layout type? I find the master room is overly big, |
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Jun 21 2017, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jun 21 2017, 09:44 AM) 62 units as per YTL Land announcement Thanks for the info. To contra with the purchase of 30% SentulRaya from KTM. Btw, what is the expected psf for last block...800pdf above? |
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Jun 29 2017, 07:02 AM
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I would think the last block will go for above 800psf. Scheduled Vped by Mar 2018.
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Jun 29 2017, 09:23 AM
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How is the sales rate ?
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Jun 29 2017, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(jiu9999 @ Jun 29 2017, 09:23 AM) How is the sales rate ? Expected to be slow lah. |
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Jul 7 2017, 11:42 AM
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With 20% discount for dual key unit seem like good offer
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Jul 7 2017, 11:56 AM
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Wow what's the unit size and price psf before 20% discount?
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Jul 7 2017, 01:40 PM
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Wow final block launching next week. First 10 buyers have 20% discount.
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Jul 7 2017, 01:42 PM
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BBB ??
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 7 2017, 01:40 PM) Wow final block launching next week. First 10 buyers have 20% discount. Wow....no need to queue overnight.....no need vvvip card....dun need to beg for discount....they gave u 20%.....dun need to select yr unit with 5mins time frame...U sure this is ytl that we know? Super lansi developer.......every dog has its day......dai sei |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 7 2017, 03:01 PM) Wow....no need to queue overnight.....no need vvvip card....dun need to beg for discount....they gave u 20%.....dun need to select yr unit with 5mins time frame... Question is whether the unit comes with 20% discount is pre-select or as long as you are first 10 buyers then you entitle it? U sure this is ytl that we know? Super lansi developer.......every dog has its day......dai sei I wonder what are the rebate entitled by buyers beyond top 10? 19% rebate? 15%? or 10%? |
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Jul 7 2017, 03:09 PM
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The Fennel Phase 2: Over 80 per cent sold in two days
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...es-in-two-days/  QUOTE(ganster123 @ Nov 16 2013, 08:16 PM) Still have some for tomorrow. Especially those facing pool and facing north. Some transactions for your reference: Pool view = B4x6 @ 1186sf = RM1mil KLCC view = B3x4 @ 1237sf = RM1mil RM1mil condo at Sentul on 2013 is crazy but will be normal on 2018 brows.gif QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 7 2017, 11:42 AM) With 20% discount for dual key unit seem like good offer Supposedly sold out back in 2013 |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2017, 03:09 PM) The Fennel Phase 2: Over 80 per cent sold in two days There are 4 blocks.... and the one sold were first 2 blocks...http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...es-in-two-days/ Supposedly sold out back in 2013 This post has been edited by gks: Jul 7 2017, 03:57 PM |
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1mio condo in sentul....
Sure untung already......... I mean the developer. |
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Jul 7 2017, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 7 2017, 03:56 PM) There are 4 blocks.... and the one sold were first 2 blocks... It was claimed to be the last of dibs project. |
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Jul 7 2017, 04:36 PM
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Any idea selling how much per sqft for final phase?
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Jul 7 2017, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 7 2017, 03:07 PM) Question is whether the unit comes with 20% discount is pre-select or as long as you are first 10 buyers then you entitle it? See carefully. It's only for dual key first 10 units. Normal units is 10% discount.I wonder what are the rebate entitled by buyers beyond top 10? 19% rebate? 15%? or 10%? I called and asked what's the minimum psf. Maybe hear wrongly. Coz it's lower than pHase 1 |
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Jul 7 2017, 05:20 PM
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They updated their webpage after for so many years
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Jul 7 2017, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 7 2017, 05:40 PM) See carefully. It's only for dual key first 10 units. Normal units is 10% discount. Would like to know the "wrong" price you have heard...if only you share.... ThxI called and asked what's the minimum psf. Maybe hear wrongly. Coz it's lower than pHase 1 |
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Jul 7 2017, 06:00 PM
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Was informed that the price start from Rm 550psf after discount. Huat ah!
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Jul 7 2017, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 7 2017, 06:00 PM) Was informed that the price start from Rm 550psf after discount. Huat ah! Haha. Heard the same..Maybe for duplex unit? Duplex is 3000sf eh |
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Jul 7 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 7 2017, 06:00 PM) Was informed that the price start from Rm 550psf after discount. Huat ah! RM550 psf for that location? Are you sure?  This post has been edited by kh_lim: Jul 7 2017, 06:10 PM |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 7 2017, 06:08 PM) Haha. Heard the same..Maybe for duplex unit? Duplex is 3000sf eh Good deal if those looking for duplex with large buildup. How much was you entry price then? |
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Jul 7 2017, 09:08 PM
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What's the asking price for Capers right now?
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 7 2017, 03:01 PM) Wow....no need to queue overnight.....no need vvvip card....dun need to beg for discount....they gave u 20%.....dun need to select yr unit with 5mins time frame... AgreeU sure this is ytl that we know? Super lansi developer.......every dog has its day......dai sei |
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Jul 7 2017, 09:37 PM
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Wait for KTMB to sell la. may be more discount will be given by them to cash out.
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Jul 8 2017, 12:19 AM
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For this masterpiece, even at 800psf still a bargain.
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Jul 8 2017, 08:31 AM
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I just received this thru the mail for anyone who's interested:
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Jul 8 2017, 08:35 AM
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This will be the last condo project for YTL at Sentul East.
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Jul 8 2017, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 12:19 AM) For this masterpiece, even at 800psf still a bargain. all down to location. |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 8 2017, 08:35 AM) This will be the last condo project for YTL at Sentul East. there are still at least 2-3 parcels of land in sentul west.but this YTL....very slow in completing its masterplan. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 8 2017, 09:17 AM) there are still at least 2-3 parcels of land in sentul west. For the commercial D series and Rumah Murah/Mudah milik raykat.but this YTL....very slow in completing its masterplan. |
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Jul 8 2017, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 8 2017, 02:00 PM) For the commercial D series and Rumah Murah/Mudah milik raykat. Somehow the low cost owners seemed cheated. Till now YTL hadn't built anything for them. This has been more than three years since their house was torn down .. |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 02:06 PM) Somehow the low cost owners seemed cheated. Till now YTL hadn't built anything for them. This has been more than three years since their house was torn down .. House torn down? How can .... |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 02:06 PM) Somehow the low cost owners seemed cheated. Till now YTL hadn't built anything for them. This has been more than three years since their house was torn down ..  seriously?? how could that happen?? |
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Jul 8 2017, 08:57 PM) seriously?? how could that happen?? Promise then next year deliver till now nothing has started. Developer like that one lah. Low cost not much margin mah |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 10:18 PM) http://m.thesundaily.my/node/308548 Promise then next year deliver till now nothing has started. Developer like that one lah. Low cost not much margin mah |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 02:06 PM) Somehow the low cost owners seemed cheated. Till now YTL hadn't built anything for them. This has been more than three years since their house was torn down .. QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 10:18 PM) http://m.thesundaily.my/node/308548 If the low cost is to build near to fennel, it will be in the developer interest to commence after fennel is sold out.Promise then next year deliver till now nothing has started. Developer like that one lah. Low cost not much margin mah |
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Likely next will be D8
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 9 2017, 01:50 PM) Likely next will be D8 D6 and d7 still so quiet.. I think they may delay launching of commercial. |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 9 2017, 01:54 PM) D6 and d7 still so quiet.. I think they may delay launching of commercial. Let's see. 👍🏿 |
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jul 8 2017, 07:31 AM) I just received this thru the mail for anyone who's interested: Calm before the storm.Have fun, y'all. |
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Jul 14 2017, 12:54 PM
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Coming Soon.. |
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Wonder how is the "Q" for today final launch?
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 15 2017, 07:24 AM) Wonder how is the "Q" for today final launch? Q? Seriously doubt so...anyway bn receiving multiple text regarding launch...sooooo irritating |
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QUOTE(Forum68 @ Jul 15 2017, 09:12 AM) Q? Seriously doubt so...anyway bn receiving multiple text regarding launch...sooooo irritating U there now? |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 15 2017, 09:34 AM) U there now? Someone forwardedAttached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 15 2017, 01:58 PM) Someone forwarded Encouraging turn out for the first 20 units. Wonder what is the avg for the > 20 units |
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 15 2017, 01:58 PM) Someone forwarded Padam muka ytl.....Becomes joke of new launches |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 15 2017, 03:47 PM) Padam muka ytl..... What about those queued to buy earlier phase?Becomes joke of new launches |
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Propcafe FB page got update on the crowd. No more BBB scene.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jul 15 2017, 07:10 PM) Propcafe FB page got update on the crowd. No more BBB scene. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...167813966699572sad lol. |
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Jul 15 2017, 07:02 PM
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From propcafe. Look like the price is pretty mixed.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jul 15 2017, 06:55 PM) You have invested earlier on? How much is your psf then? |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 15 2017, 07:02 PM) From propcafe. Look like the price is pretty mixed. A sign of slower market. Many developer is giving out more goodies. Especially MS. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 15 2017, 02:47 PM) Padam muka ytl..... Last block doesn't mean the best block, this block closest to the busy junction, LRT track and CapersBecomes joke of new launches |
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Jul 15 2017, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(planc @ Jul 15 2017, 07:12 PM) Last block doesn't mean the best block, this block closest to the busy junction, LRT track and Capers Good KLCC view but don't know for how long as there are many projects coming up at Sentul/Jln Ipoh/ titiwangsa area. |
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Jul 15 2017, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 15 2017, 06:17 PM) Good KLCC view but don't know for how long as there are many projects coming up at Sentul/Jln Ipoh/ titiwangsa area. KLCC view so special? High chance the view will block by Tamansari Titiwangsa |
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Jul 15 2017, 08:11 PM
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Isn't smallest size dual key unit 1,338sqf? So ytl did not allow this choice during the 1st batch of sale? I thought price around 700k++ but the cheapest was 820k?
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Jul 15 2017, 09:56 PM
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What is the cheapest price now?
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Jul 15 2017, 11:06 PM
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The sales seems slow and pathetic, it said. Rare to read reviews like this.
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Jul 15 2017, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jul 15 2017, 11:06 PM) The sales seems slow and pathetic, it said. Rare to read reviews like this. Times are bad, with limited options. Wonder what ahead of us? |
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Jul 15 2017, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 15 2017, 11:13 PM) Times are bad, with limited options. Wonder what ahead of us? Probably buy less is considered win for now. |
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QUOTE(mindful @ Jul 15 2017, 09:11 PM) Isn't smallest size dual key unit 1,338sqf? So ytl did not allow this choice during the 1st batch of sale? I thought price around 700k++ but the cheapest was 820k? 775k non dual key unit which is 1237sf. Dual key lowest 820k after rebate around 1400sf |
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Jul 16 2017, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jul 16 2017, 12:43 AM) 775k non dual key unit which is 1237sf. Dual key lowest 820k after rebate around 1400sf Boss, 775k is before or aft discount? Still got 775? |
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Jul 16 2017, 10:59 AM
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Greatest looking condo in whole Malaysia for sure
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Jul 16 2017, 01:16 PM
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Is a good buy giving the fact that this will be the final resi property @ Sentul East with iconic design. It will be a crowd puller time to come. Huat ah!
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jul 16 2017, 11:32 AM) Boss, 775k is before or aft discount? Still got 775? after. higher floor slight exp i believe..not sure they opened up or not |
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jul 16 2017, 12:36 PM) after. higher floor slight exp i believe..not sure they opened up or not I tell you today totally different story!! Damn crowded...Some Aunty straight pay 10% instead of 30k  |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 16 2017, 01:55 PM) I tell you today totally different story!! Damn crowded...Some Aunty straight pay 10% instead of 30k Can show the crowds instead of scale model ? |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 16 2017, 01:55 PM) I tell you today totally different story!! Damn crowded...Some Aunty straight pay 10% instead of 30k Probably they aim for higher premiums floors. Don't mind asking Young or old aunties ah? |
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Heard about black car or white cat that catches mouse theory? I would say whether old or young aunty does not matter that much as long as there are aunties.
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Jul 16 2017, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jul 16 2017, 01:36 PM) Can show the crowds instead of scale model ? Purposely went there look for ytl free pastries and coffee..too bad, serves nothing this time then straight go to imbi makan |
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Jul 16 2017, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 16 2017, 03:05 PM) Probably they aim for higher premiums floors. Don't mind asking Young or old aunties ah? Dunno actual age from her face |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 16 2017, 04:50 PM) Purposely went there look for ytl free pastries and coffee..too bad, serves nothing this time then straight go to imbi makan Was thinking to do the same. Probabaly they did yesterday. 🤦🏿♂️ |
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Jul 16 2017, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 16 2017, 04:50 PM) Purposely went there look for ytl free pastries and coffee..too bad, serves nothing this time then straight go to imbi makan Just give ytl benefits of doubts at ths moment. Maybe they missed out some steps in market the final phase. |
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jul 16 2017, 04:32 PM) Just give ytl benefits of doubts at ths moment. Maybe they missed out some steps in market the final phase. Not much units left for final phase, less than half after minus out ktmb units, haters or lovers I would say take every opportunities in life because some things only happen once. |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 16 2017, 07:08 PM) Not much units left for final phase, less than half after minus out ktmb units, haters or lovers I would say take every opportunities in life because some things only happen once. One can say the same to 6d Toto, genting, etc and without taking up liability.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jul 16 2017, 08:24 PM |
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Wah first time seeing YTL so cold.
Actually there is another factor which contribute to the slow sale. The layout of the condos itself. Caper owners will know what I mean.... |
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Residential condo without balcony.......even 1500sq....feel caged.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 17 2017, 01:17 AM) Residential condo without balcony.......even 1500sq....feel caged. Beside drying laundry, how many people use balcony regularly?A reason why balcony is eliminated is to avoid display of multi national colour. |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 17 2017, 02:58 AM) Beside drying laundry, how many people use balcony regularly? SMS non stop for 20% discountA reason why balcony is eliminated is to avoid display of multi national colour. |
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QUOTE(ace77 @ Jul 17 2017, 07:06 AM) SMS non stop for 20% discount How much price increase from last phase? |
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Jul 16 2017, 06:38 PM) Enjoy the view This view everyone can afford it, it's foc |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 17 2017, 12:17 AM) Residential condo without balcony.......even 1500sq....feel caged. What's the different between lanai and balcony? |
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QUOTE(ace77 @ Jul 17 2017, 06:06 AM) SMS non stop for 20% discount 20% only for dual key 1400sf unit above, for those more than two houses on hand and plan to buy invest whatever la |
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Some look at half full some look at half empty glass.
if you look positively, it is an excellent opportunity to buy an iconic property from reputable developer at almost completed development at the price of almost 4 years ago. The dual keys and type B1 the price starts from RM550psf. Some high density and run of the mill in puchong, OKR, Seri Petaling already asking > RM600psf. If you have the moolah, why not if you are ok with the development and location? |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 09:35 AM) Some look at half full some look at half empty glass. Those early buyer didnt complain? They holding early phases unit with negative cash flow hopping apprecition so that can sell with 100k profit, but developer dumping the price with high discount...how they fell now?if you look positively, it is an excellent opportunity to buy an iconic property from reputable developer at almost completed development at the price of almost 4 years ago. The dual keys and type B1 the price starts from RM550psf. Some high density and run of the mill in puchong, OKR, Seri Petaling already asking > RM600psf. If you have the moolah, why not if you are ok with the development and location? This post has been edited by Nikmon: Jul 17 2017, 09:59 AM |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 09:35 AM) Some look at half full some look at half empty glass. You are right. Seriously, 550psf is a god damn steal for that property of that stature and location. That's why I was wondering, what went wrong this time for YTL? Maybe the layout isn't very desirable. ( too long) instead of squarish layout. Hey what different strokes for different folks.if you look positively, it is an excellent opportunity to buy an iconic property from reputable developer at almost completed development at the price of almost 4 years ago. The dual keys and type B1 the price starts from RM550psf. Some high density and run of the mill in puchong, OKR, Seri Petaling already asking > RM600psf. If you have the moolah, why not if you are ok with the development and location? Too bad I have bought a condo early in May, otherwise I would started camping in from of Star Hill that night. |
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Jul 17 2017, 09:54 AM) Those early buyer didnt complain? They holding early phases unit with negative cash flow hopping apprecition so that can sell with 100k profit, but developer dumping the price with high discount...how they fell now? YTL is not isolated casesAlmost everywhere new launches are cheaper. Developers need to Cari makan and need to adapt to current market reality. In any cases... No such law saying developer need to price it higher than early launch. Home buyers should be happy.. I can sense they take their time to study and buy as speculators now are out from the market. My advice is buy a blue Chip property while sentiment is bad and when you have purchaser power like now. This post has been edited by gks: Jul 17 2017, 10:25 AM |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 10:21 AM) YTL is not isolated cases Home buyer or flipper or speculators also should happy if the price at bottom now, but if the price is bottoming and going down further, non of them would happyAlmost everywhere new launches are cheaper. Developers need to Cari makan and need to adapt to current market reality. In any cases... No such law saying developer need to price it higher than early launch. Home buyers should be happy.. I can sense they take their time to study and buy as speculators now are out from the market. My advice is buy a blue Chip property while sentiment is bad and when you have purchaser power like now. |
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Jul 17 2017, 10:34 AM
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buy for own stay if you really really like the location and layout.,..as for the pricing, this is afterall sentul so its fair considering also current market sentiment.. I would not call YTL an iconic developer though...now with capers and fennel and their "crooked" façade, it is beginning to look mass produce liao (they save a lot on architect fees kua..use one design and reproduce it for the next..ka ka).. Way to go YTL..every penny saved is profit lor.. |
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Jul 17 2017, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 10:21 AM) YTL is not isolated cases Yah man, MS also selling their property at pre DIBS price. Ongratulation to the buyers @ The Fennel as this is the last resi condo project @ Sentul East. Huat ah! Ong ah.Almost everywhere new launches are cheaper. Developers need to Cari makan and need to adapt to current market reality. In any cases... No such law saying developer need to price it higher than early launch. Home buyers should be happy.. I can sense they take their time to study and buy as speculators now are out from the market. My advice is buy a blue Chip property while sentiment is bad and when you have purchaser power like now. |
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Jul 17 2017, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Jul 17 2017, 10:33 AM) Home buyer or flipper or speculators also should happy if the price at bottom now, but if the price is bottoming and going down further, non of them would happy End of the days if whether long term investors, flippers or home buyers if you have moolah can always BBB.... but flippers/ speculators are more affected by market sentiment... |
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Jul 17 2017, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Jul 17 2017, 09:54 AM) Those early buyer didnt complain? They holding early phases unit with negative cash flow hopping apprecition so that can sell with 100k profit, but developer dumping the price with high discount...how they fell now? Will know after VPed. Likely to have fire sale? 🤷🏿♂️ |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 17 2017, 10:37 AM) Yah man, MS also selling their property at pre DIBS price. Ongratulation to the buyers @ The Fennel as this is the last resi condo project @ Sentul East. Huat ah! Ong ah. Compared to Phase 1 and 2, where the psf is 620psf up to 700psf this is big discount.Block B (or C forgot) has the best Klcc view and were sold around 9xxk for 3 bedder. Less than 1200psf. Only that block has both pool and Klcc view together. |
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Jul 17 2017, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 17 2017, 11:37 AM) Yah man, MS also selling their property at pre DIBS price. Ongratulation to the buyers @ The Fennel as this is the last resi condo project @ Sentul East. Huat ah! Ong ah. When is Sentul West residential coming? |
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Jul 17 2017, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Jul 17 2017, 10:47 AM) When is Sentul West residential coming? Not sure sir. Guess they will focus on the commercial series "D8,D5 & D2" at Sentul east. The low cost KTM village @ Sentul east Is also in the plan. Your guess is better then mine on YTL speed to develop these projects. Probabaly will takenshape when they award the MRT3? 🙏🏿 |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 17 2017, 11:57 AM) Not sure sir. Guess they will focus on the commercial series "D8,D5 & D2" at Sentul east. The low cost KTM village @ Sentul east Is also in the plan. Your guess is better then mine on YTL speed to develop these projects. Probabaly will takenshape when they award the MRT3? 🙏🏿 Safety first... volvoforlife...Wonder when will the sky link bridge be completed. |
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Fennels versus Capers... Despite the higher total units, Fennels for me has advantage
1. Two Olympic size hanging swimming pool 2. 2X triple volume proper lobby and porte cochere 3. 1 acre private park 4. sky gardens 5. More affordable maintenance fee RM0.35psf 6. Not sharing same access with church/temple/school which will be congested during religious events and morning/afternoon school tie. Not sure where else you get above for RM550psf... and to boot in... walking distance to LRT station, iconic design, 5km away from KLCC... |
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Jul 17 2017, 10:59 AM) Safety first... volvoforlife... Not been mentioned of late. Likely been shelved due to the market slowdown. Would be nice they do a underground walkway in-anticipation on MRT3 (underground) Likely not as the next station from sentul west will be titiwangsa. 🤦🏿♂️Wonder when will the sky link bridge be completed. |
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Jul 17 2017, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 11:02 AM) Fennels versus Capers... Despite the higher total units, Fennels for me has advantage Wow Maintenance fee RM0.35psf. Wow lower then The Capers RM0.45psf.1. Two Olympic size hanging swimming pool 2. 2X triple volume proper lobby and porte cochere 3. 1 acre private park 4. sky gardens 5. More affordable maintenance fee RM0.35psf 6. Not sharing same access with church/temple/school which will be congested during religious events and morning/afternoon school tie. Not sure where else you get above for RM550psf... and to boot in... walking distance to LRT station, iconic design, 5km away from KLCC... |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 17 2017, 11:09 AM) Wow Maintenance fee RM0.35psf. Wow lower then The Capers RM0.45psf. The trade off of being higher density. I think RM0.35psf is more palatable for home buyers. |
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If you look at the layout for the dual key unit, ytl has added the larger entrance foyer into the builtup sq ft calculation, hence the psf price look cheaper.
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QUOTE(Prop321 @ Jul 17 2017, 12:13 PM) If you look at the layout for the dual key unit, ytl has added the larger entrance foyer into the builtup sq ft calculation, hence the psf price look cheaper. Largely due to the building design, some floors have larger common area cos of the some what "hour glass " building design.The internal is still same ie 12.9x8m for 3 bedder. |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 17 2017, 02:58 AM) Beside drying laundry, how many people use balcony regularly? I use balcony regularly.....A reason why balcony is eliminated is to avoid display of multi national colour. Honeatly stayrd in balconyless condo....really drive me nut |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 17 2017, 09:25 AM) What's the different between lanai and balcony? Lanai is enclosed balcony with windows.Balcony not enclosed... |
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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Jul 17 2017, 09:54 AM) Those early buyer didnt complain? They holding early phases unit with negative cash flow hopping apprecition so that can sell with 100k profit, but developer dumping the price with high discount...how they fell now? there are also other projects having the same fate. It is such market rite now. |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 11:02 AM) Fennels versus Capers... Despite the higher total units, Fennels for me has advantage RM 550 psf is for what size?1. Two Olympic size hanging swimming pool 2. 2X triple volume proper lobby and porte cochere 3. 1 acre private park 4. sky gardens 5. More affordable maintenance fee RM0.35psf 6. Not sharing same access with church/temple/school which will be congested during religious events and morning/afternoon school tie. Not sure where else you get above for RM550psf... and to boot in... walking distance to LRT station, iconic design, 5km away from KLCC... Or, is that only for lowest floor unit without favourable facing? Bcz previously I was told that each floor increased few k and can be suddenly increased RM 20-30k. |
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 11:02 AM) Fennels versus Capers... Despite the higher total units, Fennels for me has advantage 1. Two Olympic size hanging swimming pool 2. 2X triple volume proper lobby and porte cochere 3. 1 acre private park 4. sky gardens 5. More affordable maintenance fee RM0.35psf 6. Not sharing same access with church/temple/school which will be congested during religious events and morning/afternoon school tie. Not sure where else you get above for RM550psf... and to boot in... walking distance to LRT station, iconic design, 5km away from KLCC... that's why BBB  |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 17 2017, 02:01 PM) Lanai is enclosed balcony with windows. This is not correct. Lanai is not enclosed. The height of the glass is above waist line only. See the zoom in photo.Balcony not enclosed... Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 17 2017, 04:17 PM) This is not correct. Lanai is not enclosed. The height of the glass is above waist line only. See the zoom in photo. Nobody said fennel got lanai.Is ytl promoted it as lanai? |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 17 2017, 03:20 PM) Nobody said fennel got lanai. They stated in their layout plan, some unit lanai BU up to 200sfIs ytl promoted it as lanai? |
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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Jul 17 2017, 03:46 PM) RM 550 psf is for what size? Dual keysOr, is that only for lowest floor unit without favourable facing? Bcz previously I was told that each floor increased few k and can be suddenly increased RM 20-30k. |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 17 2017, 04:23 PM) They stated in their layout plan, some unit lanai BU up to 200sf Ic...so this fennel got balcony and lanai. |
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Jul 17 2017, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 17 2017, 04:12 PM) Ic...so this fennel got balcony and lanai. Got lanai but dun have their signature pastry and coffee  Majestic signature Hainam Kaifan also okThis post has been edited by m0n0p0ly: Jul 17 2017, 05:19 PM |
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Jul 17 2017, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 17 2017, 05:18 PM) Got lanai but dun have their signature pastry and coffee U lost me bro Majestic signature Hainam Kaifan also ok |
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Jul 17 2017, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 17 2017, 10:44 AM) Compared to Phase 1 and 2, where the psf is 620psf up to 700psf this is big discount. Phase 1 start from about rm520 psf, phase 2 start from about 590 psf. Phase 3 about rm650psf. During that time is with dibs. The 550psf only applies for the first 20 units or ..... ?Block B (or C forgot) has the best Klcc view and were sold around 9xxk for 3 bedder. Less than 1200psf. Only that block has both pool and Klcc view together. |
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Jul 17 2017, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 17 2017, 06:14 PM) Phase 1 start from about rm520 psf, phase 2 start from about 590 psf. Phase 3 about rm650psf. During that time is with dibs. The 550psf only applies for the first 20 units or ..... ? Only applied to dual keys nia.....all bigsy ass units... |
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Jul 17 2017, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 04:48 PM) Dual keys Maybe only 1 unit sold at this price. |
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Jul 18 2017, 07:26 PM
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Jul 21 2017, 11:49 AM
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It says up to 18% discount as there are new release of dual-key units, for this weekend, 10am - 5pm. Lol apa difference with the 20% in last week.
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Jul 21 2017, 12:14 PM
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Discounts getting lesser lo as d weeks passed, many ppl mayb kancheong d go bbb, good marketing strategy
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Jul 21 2017, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(BRE @ Jul 21 2017, 12:14 PM) Discounts getting lesser lo as d weeks passed, many ppl mayb kancheong d go bbb, good marketing strategy haha..only works in certain mkt condition..now is not the time liao...ni YTL should have launched everything at one shot ..instead of thinking phase by phase and later increase prices.. see lah..now die liao..mkt slowed down and sales pun mati |
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Jul 21 2017, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(BRE @ Jul 21 2017, 12:14 PM) Discounts getting lesser lo as d weeks passed, many ppl mayb kancheong d go bbb, good marketing strategy Typical of developer tactic for kiasu buyers. |
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Jul 21 2017, 02:37 PM
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I think last week response not good. So come with another promo. The promo is hampering The Capers and The Fennel buyer to flip. 🤡 Cool lah, long term sure geng one!
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I went to Sales office yesterday. They still have unsold units which open last weekend and entitle for same discount if choose those unsold units.
I was late as the cheapest 1081sq ft at level 13 was booked and price after discount is RM660K. However, the SPA price will stated Nett price after discount meaning, still have to come up with 10% D/P if entitle for 90% loan. Other 1200 plus sqft after discount start from RM720K. All units come with 2 tandem car park except dual key units that is side by side. |
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Jul 21 2017, 04:26 PM
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yup. response is not so good..
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Jul 21 2017, 02:41 PM) I went to Sales office yesterday. They still have unsold units which open last weekend and entitle for same discount if choose those unsold units. wow.... 1081sqft for RM660k.. thats not very good news for Saffron as well.. notice asking price for Saffron has drop over the last few years..I was late as the cheapest 1081sq ft at level 13 was booked and price after discount is RM660K. However, the SPA price will stated Nett price after discount meaning, still have to come up with 10% D/P if entitle for 90% loan. Other 1200 plus sqft after discount start from RM720K. All units come with 2 tandem car park except dual key units that is side by side. |
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Jul 21 2017, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 21 2017, 04:56 PM) wow.... 1081sqft for RM660k.. thats not very good news for Saffron as well.. notice asking price for Saffron has drop over the last few years.. Yes. Really make me tempted to book but i was late... Expect Saffton and Tamarind and even the capers will lower their price to attract buyer in subsell market |
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Jul 21 2017, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 21 2017, 04:56 PM) wow.... 1081sqft for RM660k.. thats not very good news for Saffron as well.. notice asking price for Saffron has drop over the last few years.. This type C should be 2 bedrooms.Hopefully in next development YTL will "learn" and develop bread and butter development like Saffron/ Tamarind rather than selling iconic design like capers and fennels with inefficient layouts. |
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Jul 21 2017, 05:52 PM
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Jul 21 2017, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 21 2017, 05:33 PM) This type C should be 2 bedrooms. Mass development ppl complain, expensive complain, this time cheap ppl also complain..mlaysian mindset really need to improve, one thing for sure is thr rich get richer and the poor get poorerHopefully in next development YTL will "learn" and develop bread and butter development like Saffron/ Tamarind rather than selling iconic design like capers and fennels with inefficient layouts. |
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Jul 21 2017, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Prop321 @ Jul 21 2017, 05:52 PM) Hanging pool and bubble lift.. Hope it works Hanging pool and bubble lift really first time heard it in residential project, usually in hotel can see it |
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Jul 21 2017, 04:26 PM) yup. response is not so good.. I want!!! But bullet finish got unsold units left.. those want to buy. still have chance  bought so many rubbish project for the past few years..tempting!!This post has been edited by jhuitan: Jul 21 2017, 07:33 PM |
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Jul 21 2017, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 17 2017, 11:02 AM) Fennels versus Capers... Despite the higher total units, Fennels for me has advantage http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eJd49RbNH0o/VhS0...he-Fennel-2.jpg What is hydrotherapy? Jacuzzi? Which floor got this facilities?1. Two Olympic size hanging swimming pool 2. 2X triple volume proper lobby and porte cochere 3. 1 acre private park 4. sky gardens 5. More affordable maintenance fee RM0.35psf 6. Not sharing same access with church/temple/school which will be congested during religious events and morning/afternoon school tie. Not sure where else you get above for RM550psf... and to boot in... walking distance to LRT station, iconic design, 5km away from KLCC... |
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Jul 21 2017, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 21 2017, 06:20 PM) I want!!! But bullet finish mind asking which rubbish projects u bought? bought so many rubbish project for the past few years..tempting!! |
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Jul 22 2017, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Jul 21 2017, 10:52 PM) mind asking which rubbish projects u bought? Those low appreciation, negative cash flow and after 6-7years developer still haven't finish selling their unit |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 02:27 AM) Those low appreciation, negative cash flow and after 6-7years developer still haven't finish selling their unit Why you think this place will not end up the same like your previous buy?This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jul 22 2017, 05:33 AM |
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Jul 22 2017, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 22 2017, 03:30 AM) Why you think this place will not end up the same like your previous buy? First of all i already finish my quota not able to buy this condo. This place won b end up like my previois buy because usually ytl project tight security, good maintenance and management, grand entrances and stunning facades, decent facilities, convenient location, practical layout, good entry price even cheaper than subsale nearby, masterbed toilet floor and wall compress mable, room provide solid wood flooring, how many project within KL can get similar pricing and resi title project like this?This post has been edited by jhuitan: Jul 22 2017, 09:34 AM |
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Jul 22 2017, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 09:23 AM) First of all i already finish my quota not able to buy this condo. This place won b end up like my previois buy because usually ytl project tight security, good maintenance and management, grand entrances and stunning facades, decent facilities, convenient location, practical layout, good entry price even cheaper than subsale nearby, masterbed toilet floor and wall compress mable, room provide solid wood flooring. Why didn't you buy in 2014? |
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Jul 22 2017, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 22 2017, 09:33 AM) Why didn't you buy in 2014? Gamble the wrong project last time, how I wish I can cash out my previous project and get one unit here. what's your opinion about this project?This post has been edited by jhuitan: Jul 22 2017, 09:39 AM |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 09:36 AM) Gamble the wrong project last time, how I wish I can cash out my previous project and get one unit here. what's your opinion about this project? Don't worry lah. It will go up one day. |
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Jul 22 2017, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 21 2017, 06:20 PM) I want!!! But bullet finish What's the rubbish project name ? Any of them is from Top 10 developers ? bought so many rubbish project for the past few years..tempting!! |
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Jul 22 2017, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 09:36 AM) Gamble the wrong project last time, how I wish I can cash out my previous project and get one unit here. what's your opinion about this project? If your definition of rubbish projects are those which developer still haven't finish selling, negative cash flow and low appreciation, what makes this project different from those?Do you think you can rent out with 6% rental yield to cover installment right after you got the key this year? This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jul 22 2017, 12:07 PM |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 09:23 AM) First of all i already finish my quota not able to buy this condo. This place won b end up like my previois buy because usually ytl project tight security, good maintenance and management, grand entrances and stunning facades, decent facilities, convenient location, practical layout, good entry price even cheaper than subsale nearby, masterbed toilet floor and wall compress mable, room provide solid wood flooring, how many project within KL can get similar pricing and resi title project like this? in property investment game....you cant win all the times......if you can, who will be the losers? |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jul 22 2017, 11:50 AM) If your definition of rubbish projects are those which developer still haven't finish selling, negative cash flow and low appreciation, what makes this project different from those? Many problems, headache, less than 3.5% ROI..lesson learned, this project at least you can see the actual building before commitDo you think you can rent out with 6% rental yield to cover installment right after you got the key this year? |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 12:07 PM) in property investment game....you cant win all the times...... Condo bought 5-6yrs mainly loser as too many mass productions, prima house flood the market nowif you can, who will be the losers? |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 21 2017, 06:20 PM) I want!!! But bullet finish Which rubbish projects you bought? bought so many rubbish project for the past few years..tempting!! |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 22 2017, 11:24 AM) Don't worry lah. It will go up one day. Hopefully can get back cost enough. Thanks bro |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(jiu9999 @ Jul 22 2017, 12:39 PM) Which rubbish projects you bought? Many in market now, everywhere |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:43 PM
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Maybe you all can discuss why this project not a good buy here? Anyone?
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Jul 22 2017, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 12:42 PM) Many in market now, everywhere AGREED |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 12:43 PM) Maybe you all can discuss why this project not a good buy here? Anyone? YTL projects, most expensive in sentul........if you want to be the best...you can only attract the best.last check, sentul only 20% chinese population. You still need a lot of chinese to boost up property prices. |
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Jul 22 2017, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 12:37 PM) Condo bought 5-6yrs mainly loser as too many mass productions, prima house flood the market now dun tell me you bought cyber....... |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 12:54 PM) dun tell me you bought cyber....... SENTUL ALSO AT MASS PRODUCTION ALSO............ |
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Jul 22 2017, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Jul 22 2017, 01:01 PM) SENTUL ALSO AT MASS PRODUCTION ALSO............ now yes....but 5-6yrs ago....even citilight not launched yet. |
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Jul 22 2017, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 01:12 PM) now yes.... TOO MUCH OPTION...........but 5-6yrs ago....even citilight not launched yet. I THINK MORE THEN 10 PROJECT ON GOING ARD SENTUL N JLN IPOH |
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Jul 22 2017, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Jul 22 2017, 01:20 PM) TOO MUCH OPTION........... mana mana pun sama....I THINK MORE THEN 10 PROJECT ON GOING ARD SENTUL N JLN IPOH kepong, bukit jalil, OKR, cyber all also have 10 of thousand of condos and affortable housing coming up..... seriously, either you buy far rung landed....or just dun eat and fart....save every penny and get into higher end areas.....  |
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Jul 22 2017, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 12:53 PM) YTL projects, most expensive in sentul........if you want to be the best...you can only attract the best. Found this video, can attract the best? https://youtu.be/7Hhix6qyM1Q last check, sentul only 20% chinese population. You still need a lot of chinese to boost up property prices. Not sure about the population in particular area, but curious to khow many % chinese population in Mont Kiara, Damansara and KLCC area? I always treat this part as Jalan Ipoh because the whole development just next to Jalan Ipoh, like Maple address is Sentul West but to me consider is Jalan Ipoh. |
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Jul 22 2017, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 02:54 PM) Found this video, can attract the best? https://youtu.be/7Hhix6qyM1Q keke you can ask owners of capers how they are doing.Not sure about the population in particular area, but curious to khow many % chinese population in Mont Kiara, Damansara and KLCC area? I always treat this part as Jalan Ipoh because the whole development just next to Jalan Ipoh, like Maple address is Sentul West but to me consider is Jalan Ipoh. please don't confused yourself with high end areas....... if you want to treat sentul as KLCC also can.......... |
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Jul 22 2017, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 02:54 PM) Found this video, can attract the best? https://youtu.be/7Hhix6qyM1Q Wow, amazing what drone can do. Those owing/staying in capers would appreciate it. Free promo.Not sure about the population in particular area, but curious to khow many % chinese population in Mont Kiara, Damansara and KLCC area? I always treat this part as Jalan Ipoh because the whole development just next to Jalan Ipoh, like Maple address is Sentul West but to me consider is Jalan Ipoh. |
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Jul 22 2017, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 03:31 PM) keke you can ask owners of capers how they are doing. Not want to treat Sentul as KLCC Mont Kiara, just want to find out % of chinese population whether will affect the appreciation or not. What factors do you think YTL need to add in to the development?please don't confused yourself with high end areas....... if you want to treat sentul as KLCC also can.......... |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 04:10 PM) Not want to treat Sentul as KLCC Mont Kiara, just want to find out % of chinese population whether will affect the appreciation or not. What factors do you think YTL need to add in to the development? Build a mall beside KTM sentul and watch this place explode with life |
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 22 2017, 04:21 PM) Build a mall beside KTM sentul and watch this place explode with life Really? How big is the mall? Any lakepark with jogging track? |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 04:25 PM) Really? How big is the mall? Any lakepark with jogging track? Nothing concrete on the mall plans. Everything is just rumors at present. There's already a lake park in Sentul West but it's for Maple residents only. But if YTL has plans to develop that piece of KTM land into a commercial area then like is said, the value of their condos will go up further.Judging by the slow sales of fennel's last block, I think YTL will have second thoughts of developing it. |
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Jul 22 2017, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 04:10 PM) Not want to treat Sentul as KLCC Mont Kiara, just want to find out % of chinese population whether will affect the appreciation or not. What factors do you think YTL need to add in to the development? malay wont buy from chinese.only indian and chinese will buy from chinese. therefore you need new chinese and indian migrates flocking into sentul......but sentul got YTL condos which priced at the highest and there are many more priced slightly lower.......whoever that thinking of moving to sentul also got choices...... therefore the losing end is still YTL. YTL commercial also not cheap........ |
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Jul 22 2017, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 05:54 PM) malay wont buy from chinese. Dun say bumi buy subsale, most of the new launch less than 20% are bumi buyer, I really dun know where they buy and stay.only indian and chinese will buy from chinese. therefore you need new chinese and indian migrates flocking into sentul......but sentul got YTL condos which priced at the highest and there are many more priced slightly lower.......whoever that thinking of moving to sentul also got choices...... therefore the losing end is still YTL. YTL commercial also not cheap........ |
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Jul 22 2017, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 06:04 PM) Dun say bumi buy subsale, most of the new launch less than 20% are bumi buyer, I really dun know where they buy and stay. the new generations do buy just like everyone else.....but just like chinese, they too in general prefer malay majority areas...... |
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Jul 22 2017, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 22 2017, 04:21 PM) Build a mall beside KTM sentul and watch this place explode with life Mall would likely be at D8. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 06:06 PM) the new generations do buy just like everyone else..... So anything do you think is good buy within KL now?but just like chinese, they too in general prefer malay majority areas...... |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 22 2017, 06:12 PM) Mall would likely be at D8. Where is D8? How's it look like? |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 06:55 PM) So anything do you think is good buy within KL now? Buy chinese area like lemanjaBuy mrt area like rica n tr. You need to buy at least 3. Prepare for one makes money ome break even n one makes loss. That is my approach. This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Jul 22 2017, 07:02 PM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 07:00 PM) Buy chinese area like lemanja Lemanja too far not compare..Rica just nearby Fennel, psf higher than Feneel for new developer? High risk or not? TR dun want comment much about it.Buy mrt area like rica n tr. You need to buy at least 3. Prepare for one makes money ome break even n one makes loss. That is my approach. |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 07:05 PM) Lemanja too far not compare..Rica just nearby Fennel, psf higher than Feneel for new developer? High risk or not? TR dun want comment much about it. Where comes to subsale ppl dun look at psf price de....Absolute price that counts. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 07:10 PM) Where comes to subsale ppl dun look at psf price de.... So mean 400k for 400sf also many ppl buy?Absolute price that counts. |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 07:14 PM) So mean 400k for 400sf also many ppl buy? Yes....but not in sentul |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 22 2017, 07:16 PM) Yes....but not in sentul Bon North Kiara? |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 22 2017, 07:12 PM) Mall would likely be at D8. How big will the mall be? From map it looks like 3-4 times the size of D6. A mall with grocers and cafe something like publika is enough to attract.... Will YTL complete the sky link for all the residentials blocks to LRT station? Judging from the sales at Fennel last phase, developer need to work harder in adding value and fulfiling their promise....good times are gone.. |
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Jul 23 2017, 10:34 AM
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Jul 23 2017, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Jul 23 2017, 09:40 AM) How big will the mall be? From map it looks like 3-4 times the size of D6. A mall with grocers and cafe something like publika is enough to attract.... Will YTL complete the sky link for all the residentials blocks to LRT station? Judging from the sales at Fennel last phase, developer need to work harder in adding value and fulfiling their promise....good times are gone.. QUOTE(accetera @ Jul 22 2017, 10:28 PM) This thread started since 2015... finally! No worries, maybe got PPSB this kind of competitor only can motivate them. The lake next to mas sing gonna enhance it like Desa Parkcity, target to launch next year. |
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Jul 23 2017, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 23 2017, 11:15 AM) No worries, maybe got PPSB this kind of competitor only can motivate them. The lake next to mas sing gonna enhance it like Desa Parkcity, target to launch next year. the lake will be downsized or completely covered up..... |
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Jul 23 2017, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 23 2017, 11:24 AM) the lake will be downsized or completely covered up..... 80acres around 2/3 of the lake size |
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Jul 23 2017, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 23 2017, 12:33 PM) 80acres around 2/3 of the lake size Do expect the Kepong ppl to protest in the newspapers soon if this is confirmed to be the case. They already protested the proposed construction of the high-tech Waste to Energy Incinerator nearby... |
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Jul 23 2017, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(DesRed @ Jul 23 2017, 12:45 PM) Do expect the Kepong ppl to protest in the newspapers soon if this is confirmed to be the case. Incinerator not related to their project right?They already protested the proposed construction of the high-tech Waste to Energy Incinerator nearby... |
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Jul 23 2017, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 23 2017, 12:33 PM) 80acres around 2/3 of the lake size If the plan is to build tract housing, it may not eat up the lake tho. |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 23 2017, 01:40 PM) Incinerator not related to their project right? Not related but nearer than EcoSky if any. |
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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jul 23 2017, 01:51 PM) Not related but nearer than EcoSky if any. Now dunno they wil reclaim the part close to Mah sing or ecosky |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 23 2017, 12:15 PM) No worries, maybe got PPSB this kind of competitor only can motivate them. The lake next to mas sing gonna enhance it like Desa Parkcity, target to launch next year. Mana is the exact location? |
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Jul 24 2017, 11:07 AM) Mana is the exact location? you know where is Lakeville? the lake area plus those land at the back of lake........lishold presumed. |
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Wonder how was the response over the weekend? Guess is weak.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 24 2017, 12:14 PM) you know where is Lakeville? Tqtq. I think I know... Looks like LH...the lake area plus those land at the back of lake........lishold presumed. |
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i am vested and am now worried about the use of ACP in this building after Grenfell. Feel like crying. Does anyone know anything if there really is ACP used in the fascade of the Capers and Fennel?
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 08:24 AM) i am vested and am now worried about the use of ACP in this building after Grenfell. Feel like crying. Does anyone know anything if there really is ACP used in the fascade of the Capers and Fennel? What is Acp? |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 08:24 AM) i am vested and am now worried about the use of ACP in this building after Grenfell. Feel like crying. Does anyone know anything if there really is ACP used in the fascade of the Capers and Fennel? why don't you write in officially and ask the developer? |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 08:24 AM) i am vested and am now worried about the use of ACP in this building after Grenfell. Feel like crying. Does anyone know anything if there really is ACP used in the fascade of the Capers and Fennel? If fire risks is your concern, you could buy fire insurance. |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2017, 09:41 AM) If fire risks is your concern, you could buy fire insurance. I think the concern is on the loss of life, and the suffering one has to endure before dying  |
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Aug 26 2017, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Aug 26 2017, 08:42 AM) What is Acp? aluminum composite panels that are like those used in grenfell, uk |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2017, 09:41 AM) If fire risks is your concern, you could buy fire insurance. hmmm ... in malaysia we have not taken at this stage a very heavy stance on the possibilities that substandard ACP's have been used. the developer, yes i should write to them to ask them.fire insurance, yes of course, but if it is ACP fire insurance may go up and in some instance now overseas you may acually not be able to buy insurance and have the council revoke your certificate of fitness to occupy. |
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QUOTE(urbanite @ Aug 26 2017, 09:58 AM) I think the concern is on the loss of life, and the suffering one has to endure before dying yes i would not feel safe staying in a building where the speed of the fire, if there is one, spreading is at an extensive speed. |
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Aug 26 2017, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Aug 26 2017, 09:05 AM) why don't you write in officially and ask the developer? i will do it right now. thanks. i may post their reply here if they reply. |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 10:26 AM) i will do it right now. thanks. i may post their reply here if they reply. i have done it. this will apply to the capers as well and i think many other buildings in the Klang Valley. "Materials like aluminium panelling and steel edge-detailing were deployed as a leitmotif to express a fresh aesthetic to the prevailing multicolour and plaster-and-paint Sentul experience. Details of metallic fins and edges were also incorporated to preserve proportions and geometry of the design." http://www.archdaily.com/633637/the-capers-rt-q-architects |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 10:26 AM) i will do it right now. thanks. i may post their reply here if they reply. please do so you have something on record in case you wish to pursue this further..Anyway, this is a safety issue so should be taken seriously by buyers. |
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http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/hous...-elsewhere-scdf
"The authorities launched "comprehensive on-site fire safety assessments" on 40 other buildings that use the same brand of cladding material, Alubond, SCDF said on Thursday. Of these, 15 failed tests for the required Class 0 standard, which does not allow flames to spread on the surface." 6 hours ago in Singapore |
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Aug 26 2017, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Aug 26 2017, 10:42 AM) please do so you have something on record in case you wish to pursue this further.. I will nookieAnyway, this is a safety issue so should be taken seriously by buyers. |
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Aug 26 2017, 11:36 AM
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"That's terrifying," said Matt Roberts, 31, after being told his building, the Elm Apartments in Southbank, is one of six buildings the Metropolitan Fire Brigade has placed on its enhanced response list.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/tenants-...622-gwwceb.html My friend (as u all know that usually means "I") own an apartment here and the council may revoke the certificate of fitness here, and in the last two sessions of joint meetings with the authorities the Contractor seem to have gone into hiding. |
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without prejudice. i wonder about KLCC and Troika?
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 11:44 AM) "That's terrifying," said Matt Roberts, 31, after being told his building, the Elm Apartments in Southbank, is one of six buildings the Metropolitan Fire Brigade has placed on its enhanced response list. After cf/ccc is issued, if owners find it unsatisfactory; the only practical solution is to replace at owners cost or move out/sell.http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/tenants-...622-gwwceb.html My friend (as u all know that usually means "I") own an apartment here and the council may revoke the certificate of fitness here, and in the last two sessions of joint meetings with the authorities the Contractor seem to have gone into hiding. |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2017, 01:07 PM) After cf/ccc is issued, if owners find it unsatisfactory; the only practical solution is to replace at owners cost or move out/sell. we will see. |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 12:30 PM) without prejudice. i wonder about KLCC and Troika? Klcc twin towers? I thought that's steel cladding? |
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Aug 26 2017, 04:16 PM) Klcc twin towers? I thought that's steel cladding? yup it is..http://klcc.stsite.com/fact.php |
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unofficially got information from the respective people at the Fennel ... all sounds good from an engineering point of view, and alucobond is mentioned as the product in use ... so will wait for their official written response. so kudos, they were very quick to respond.
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 07:24 AM) i am vested and am now worried about the use of ACP in this building after Grenfell. Feel like crying. Does anyone know anything if there really is ACP used in the fascade of the Capers and Fennel? ACP is good material for building exterior, reduction in structural thermal bridging, protection the wall surface against rain and weather, facade remains beautiful and self clean over long period..For Grenfell case is different, they want save cost use the cheaper Reynobond PE cladding, which contain flammable polyethylene.."Experts said the composite foam sandwich panels helped spread the fire quickly from the lower floors all the way up the block. The material used in the cladding on Grenfell was the cheaper, more flammable version of the two available options, an investigation of the supply chain by The Guardian has claimed. Fireproof cladding initially planned for Grenfell was reportedly downgraded so the council could save money." https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3804113/grenf...latest-updates/ |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 10:16 AM) unofficially got information from the respective people at the Fennel ... all sounds good from an engineering point of view, and alucobond is mentioned as the product in use ... so will wait for their official written response. so kudos, they were very quick to respond. So which type they use in this building? ALUCOBOND PLUS or ALUCOBOND PE? |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 11:16 AM) unofficially got information from the respective people at the Fennel ... all sounds good from an engineering point of view, and alucobond is mentioned as the product in use ... so will wait for their official written response. so kudos, they were very quick to respond. QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Aug 28 2017, 12:23 PM) ACP is good material for building exterior, reduction in structural thermal bridging, protection the wall surface against rain and weather, facade remains beautiful and self clean over long period..For Grenfell case is different, they want save cost use the cheaper Reynobond PE cladding, which contain flammable polyethylene.. Reynobond and alucobond are brand name of ACP."Experts said the composite foam sandwich panels helped spread the fire quickly from the lower floors all the way up the block. The material used in the cladding on Grenfell was the cheaper, more flammable version of the two available options, an investigation of the supply chain by The Guardian has claimed. Fireproof cladding initially planned for Grenfell was reportedly downgraded so the council could save money." https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3804113/grenf...latest-updates/ fennel acp was ordered before grenfell incident; unless the developer could disclose the acp core materials, no reason why they didn't choose the cheaper materials. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Aug 28 2017, 01:11 PM |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Aug 28 2017, 12:36 PM) So which type they use in this building? ALUCOBOND PLUS or ALUCOBOND PE? i have gotten a written reply and i am not happy. now i do not know if this is information that i can make public?i any case the material is made in malaysia and is NOT as i was told Alucobond. i am only one small kichimiao ... other buyers should query the case, there is only so much 1 buyer can do. irrespective of any certification i am asking if YTL themselves are satisfied with the product. If i get a response i will have to again consider if it can be made public. i do not mind lowyat making me known to YTL if that is required to publish their reply here. |
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"The question then, is who is at fault and who should pay.
Bannermans principal lawyer David Bannerman said a “stream of liability” would need to be worked through – from importers and subcontractors through to architects and certifiers. There is only a two-year statutory warranty on non-compliant aluminium cladding for buildings in contracts entered into after February 2012, and a seven-year timeline for those contracted before that date. “For those who have missed the warranty period there are other more difficult legal avenues to pursue,” said Mr Bannerman. “Nobody knew about it until the last few years.”" https://www.domain.com.au/news/the-bad-stuf...0170823-gy2ug1/ if this case is one of those problematic products being used YTL should fire test the product in a respectable countries lab and respond accordingly. any legal case is easier to pursue earlier than later. (i am merely suggesting that if there be a need for one) above article is sydney based |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 01:19 PM) i have gotten a written reply and i am not happy. now i do not know if this is information that i can make public? The developer is obviously satisfied with the acp else they would not have ordered.i any case the material is made in malaysia and is NOT as i was told Alucobond. i am only one small kichimiao ... other buyers should query the case, there is only so much 1 buyer can do. irrespective of any certification i am asking if YTL themselves are satisfied with the product. If i get a response i will have to again consider if it can be made public. i do not mind lowyat making me known to YTL if that is required to publish their reply here. QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 01:23 PM) "The question then, is who is at fault and who should pay. Normally developer obtained approval from architect and consultant before purchase. as long as it complied to prevailing bye law and regulations, developer liability is limited.Bannermans principal lawyer David Bannerman said a “stream of liability” would need to be worked through – from importers and subcontractors through to architects and certifiers. There is only a two-year statutory warranty on non-compliant aluminium cladding for buildings in contracts entered into after February 2012, and a seven-year timeline for those contracted before that date. “For those who have missed the warranty period there are other more difficult legal avenues to pursue,” said Mr Bannerman. “Nobody knew about it until the last few years.”" https://www.domain.com.au/news/the-bad-stuf...0170823-gy2ug1/ if this case is one of those problematic products being used YTL should fire test the product in a respectable countries lab and respond accordingly. any legal case is easier to pursue earlier than later. (i am merely suggesting that if there be a need for one) above article is sydney based This post has been edited by icemanfx: Aug 28 2017, 02:13 PM |
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 28 2017, 02:11 PM) The developer is obviously satisfied with the acp else they would not have ordered. thanks icemanfx. i understand.Normally developer obtained approval from architect and consultant before purchase. as long as it complied to prevailing bye law and regulations, developer liability is limited. |
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i guess i am being demanding and asking at this stage before VP, that YTL send out a letter to all their buyers to assure everyone that the highest of standard and no compromises have been made in the quality and safety of the product their Architects have finally decide to accept.
i should also be made known to buyers if by accepting this alternative was there a substantial reduction in cost that was passed to the developer, or contractor, should the product be cited as being equal or better than the original specifications by the Architects http://www.rtnq.com/ of course as buyers consists mainly of lay people, the Singaporean Architects could describe pictorially how these sections are different from those in grenfell or how the method of usage differs and are hence safe i have now learnt that the composite material used inside is composed of non-combustible mineral filled core (to be verified by others who know the matter) |
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Aug 28 2017, 12:36 PM) So which type they use in this building? ALUCOBOND PLUS or ALUCOBOND PE? elek, neither. |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 07:05 PM) Lemanja too far not compare..Rica just nearby Fennel, psf higher than Feneel for new developer? High risk or not? TR dun want comment much about it. rica psf is higher than fennel a? u speaking before or after discount? TR y dun wan comment much about it ler? |
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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 09:23 AM) First of all i already finish my quota not able to buy this condo. This place won b end up like my previois buy because usually ytl project tight security, good maintenance and management, grand entrances and stunning facades, decent facilities, convenient location, practical layout, good entry price even cheaper than subsale nearby, masterbed toilet floor and wall compress mable, room provide solid wood flooring, how many project within KL can get similar pricing and resi title project like this? Bro, enter vistana residence by YTL. and see what would u say about YTL above still remains or not. ^ |
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Jul 21 2017, 02:37 PM) I think last week response not good. So come with another promo. The promo is hampering The Capers and The Fennel buyer to flip. 🤡 Cool lah, long term sure geng one! haha too bad for them. the most kesian one is raffelsia condo. seller despo to sell hard to sell, last i seen is got few people full clothing tudung, track bottom and all enter the pool and enjoying all to themself  |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 05:39 PM) i guess i am being demanding and asking at this stage before VP, that YTL send out a letter to all their buyers to assure everyone that the highest of standard and no compromises have been made in the quality and safety of the product their Architects have finally decide to accept. Believe there isn't a regulatory requirement currently for fire resistance rated external wall cladding. given mineral wool absorb water and more expensive, few developer choose mineral filled core acp voluntarily.i should also be made known to buyers if by accepting this alternative was there a substantial reduction in cost that was passed to the developer, or contractor, should the product be cited as being equal or better than the original specifications by the Architects http://www.rtnq.com/ of course as buyers consists mainly of lay people, the Singaporean Architects could describe pictorially how these sections are different from those in grenfell or how the method of usage differs and are hence safe i have now learnt that the composite material used inside is composed of non-combustible mineral filled core (to be verified by others who know the matter) This post has been edited by icemanfx: Aug 28 2017, 10:34 PM |
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is there a whatsapp group for the fennel owners set up?
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 28 2017, 10:31 PM) Believe there isn't a regulatory requirement currently for fire resistance rated external wall cladding. given mineral wool absorb water and more expensive, few developer choose mineral filled core acp voluntarily. been told that fennel uses mineral filling for the composite panel |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 30 2017, 10:30 AM) is there a whatsapp group for the fennel owners set up? Am keen to know too |
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 30 2017, 10:32 AM) been told that fennel uses mineral filling for the composite panel Then you could sleep soundly at night. |
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DPC sells cheaper than previous phases , all bbb. YTL did the same on Fennel..no one hiew
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Aug 30 2017, 12:59 PM) DPC sells cheaper than previous phases , all bbb. YTL did the same on Fennel..no one hiew Ytl sell cheaper for the same proj. That upsets the previous phase buyers. Dpc is an entirely different proj. Higher density and not so ideal location , hence the price.. It tells all.Their remaining units has a 5% adjustment. Early birds are happy. |
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Aug 30 2017, 12:59 PM) DPC sells cheaper than previous phases , all bbb. YTL did the same on Fennel..no one hiew Dpc south Brook?. It tells all. |
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Aug 30 2017, 02:35 PM) Ytl sell cheaper for the same proj. That upsets the previous phase buyers. Dpc is an entirely different proj. Higher density and not so ideal location , hence the price. Their remaining units has a 5% adjustment. Early birds are happy. Woudnt by selling cheap.....dpc wont be upsetting their current condo owners? Why still bbb? |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 1 2017, 03:15 PM) Woudnt by selling cheap.....dpc wont be upsetting their current condo owners? all answer in propcafe reviewWhy still bbb? good entries (price, concept and size) for buyers who long for dpc address but at most inferior location, product, density, lift etc lor. something got to give.... |
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Aug 30 2017, 11:59 AM) DPC sells cheaper than previous phases , all bbb. YTL did the same on Fennel..no one hiew Why YTL no people hiew? I think ppl buy on more abt the lifestyle, security n environment in dpc..like the reviews said, when step in dpc feel like oversea . It tells all. even ppl now can't afford and stay there at least they stil can go dpc jogging n makan there chill with friends after work or during holidays..once ppl like it definitely will set target buy a dreamhouse there one day..they also know abt the future plan for the existing vacant land as well..ytl sentul? Too slow, not aggressive..one ppl say it mayb dat person got problem, when a lot of ppl say the same problem then really need to look at this problem seriously.. ppl dunno abt their future masterplan on the vacant land, u buy here for gambling n throw money for unknown future..the park with teh tarik pond cannot jogging, can say no ppl use it at all, such a waste.. the restaurant inside sentul west badly maintain, how's the business there n the shop at g floor of d6&7? Not fully utilise it at all..no wine & liquor house... beauty shop... too many! Always told ppl abt art art art..boring n my grandparent always told me the ppl who play art wil poor for 3 generations This post has been edited by m0n0p0ly: Sep 3 2017, 12:06 PM |
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Sep 3 2017, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Sep 3 2017, 12:52 PM) Why YTL no people hiew? I think ppl buy on more abt the lifestyle, security n environment in dpc..like the reviews said, when step in dpc feel like oversea agree. Sentul is really good location but too old to revitalise...a lot of eeforts are needed. YTL famous for slow slow n YTL land does not seems like their core engine/biz...so man man lai. Without YTL, sentul ll be worst, need to give some credits to them though. Sentul badly needs MRT..so lets wait for MRT 2 and time being better dont play high end n high absolute price game in Sentul...also sentul baru side no mrt2, over densed developments also no no too. Rica is about right for investment purpose..affordable, close to city, mrt, jln ipoh, biz central, old money etc. Pana too but terlalu expensive. even ppl now can't afford and stay there at least they stil can go dpc jogging n makan there chill with friends after work or during holidays..once ppl like it definitely will set target buy a dreamhouse there one day..they also know abt the future plan for the existing vacant land as well..ytl sentul? Too slow, not aggressive..one ppl say it mayb dat person got problem, when a lot of ppl say the same problem then really need to look at this problem seriously.. ppl dunno abt their future masterplan on the vacant land, u buy here for gambling n throw money for unknown future..the park with teh tarik pond cannot jogging, can say no ppl use it at all, such a waste.. the restaurant inside sentul west badly maintain, how's the business there n the shop at g floor of d6&7? Not fully utilise it at all..no wine & liquor house... beauty shop... too many! Always told ppl abt art art art..boring n my grandparent always told me the ppl who play art wil poor for 3 generations This post has been edited by propertybbb: Sep 3 2017, 12:58 PM |
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Sep 3 2017, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 3 2017, 12:57 PM) agree. Sentul is really good location but too old to revitalise...a lot of eeforts are needed. YTL famous for slow slow n YTL land does not seems like their core engine/biz...so man man lai. Without YTL, sentul ll be worst, need to give some credits to them though. Sentul badly needs MRT..so lets wait for MRT 2 and time being better dont play high end n high absolute price game in Sentul...also sentul baru side no mrt2, over densed developments also no no too. Rica is about right for investment purpose..affordable, close to city, mrt, jln ipoh, biz central, old money etc. Pana too but terlalu expensive. Still can't deny capers and fennel are the only 2 iconic buidlings at the moment. Can see them from afar. I hope they can beautify fennel further to capture back the trust from their existing buyers. Many new projects in sentul now and fennel definitely will face tough competitions upon vp |
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Sep 3 2017, 01:17 PM
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Visited The Fennel gallery recently. Realized they only open sales up till floor 17 for the final blocked C. Remainining floors will be open in due course. Learning from the floor price of level 17 and comparing with block A/D, I would say, there would be a price of 15% premium vs older blockes. But still competitive for such an iconic architecture and comparing with other projects around the vicinity.
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Sep 3 2017, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Sep 3 2017, 01:17 PM) Visited The Fennel gallery recently. Realized they only open sales up till floor 17 for the final blocked C. Remainining floors will be open in due course. Learning from the floor price of level 17 and comparing with block A/D, I would say, there would be a price of 15% premium vs older blockes. But still competitive for such an iconic architecture and comparing with other projects around the vicinity. Just checked out the sales gallergy also. Price now is cheaper than previous phases. So whoever who have not bought it's a good time to buy now . More discounts.Unfortunately for those who have bought previous blocks are probably cursing ytl left right centre now |
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Sep 3 2017, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Sep 3 2017, 05:05 PM) Just checked out the sales gallergy also. Price now is cheaper than previous phases. So whoever who have not bought it's a good time to buy now . More discounts. where is their sales gallery? sentul or starhill?Unfortunately for those who have bought previous blocks are probably cursing ytl left right centre now |
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Sep 3 2017, 05:26 PM
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Whats the sales price now ?
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Sep 3 2017, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(bartbarb @ Sep 3 2017, 05:26 PM) Whats the sales price now ? For 17th floor the psf is about 680psf. Will have about 2k in term of net unit with same size. And every 4 floors up, will have additional net 20k per unit with same size. Machanism used for Fennel. |
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Sep 4 2017, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 3 2017, 11:57 AM) agree. Sentul is really good location but too old to revitalise...a lot of eeforts are needed. YTL famous for slow slow n YTL land does not seems like their core engine/biz...so man man lai. Without YTL, sentul ll be worst, need to give some credits to them though. Sentul badly needs MRT..so lets wait for MRT 2 and time being better dont play high end n high absolute price game in Sentul...also sentul baru side no mrt2, over densed developments also no no too. Rica is about right for investment purpose..affordable, close to city, mrt, jln ipoh, biz central, old money etc. Pana too but terlalu expensive. Sentul West, land of gold waiting to ignite! Feel like a gated and guarded community, not many entrance to enter, like dpc..wish to buy one for own stay, hopefully no need to wait until National Transformation 2050 vision (TN50) This post has been edited by m0n0p0ly: Sep 4 2017, 01:46 AM |
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Sep 4 2017, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(VOLVOFORLIFE @ Sep 3 2017, 04:37 PM) For 17th floor the psf is about 680psf. Will have about 2k in term of net unit with same size. And every 4 floors up, will have additional net 20k per unit with same size. Machanism used for Fennel. As you said abv every 4 floors additional 20k so from level 17-42 different wil be around 120k, almost 100psf additional, close to 780psf.. 1200sf unit easily cost 930k..who say cheaper than previous blocks???This post has been edited by m0n0p0ly: Sep 4 2017, 01:57 AM |
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Sep 4 2017, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 3 2017, 12:57 PM) agree. Sentul is really good location but too old to revitalise...a lot of eeforts are needed. YTL famous for slow slow n YTL land does not seems like their core engine/biz...so man man lai. Without YTL, sentul ll be worst, need to give some credits to them though. Sentul badly needs MRT..so lets wait for MRT 2 and time being better dont play high end n high absolute price game in Sentul...also sentul baru side no mrt2, over densed developments also no no too. Rica is about right for investment purpose..affordable, close to city, mrt, jln ipoh, biz central, old money etc. Pana too but terlalu expensive. Yes You care RIGHT.Not many people aware that the Direct flyover from Jln Kuching to Sentul was actually constructed by YTL many many years ago....  |
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Sep 7 2017, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 30 2017, 10:30 AM) is there a whatsapp group for the fennel owners set up? Good idea  Who would like to be the admin? |
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Sep 8 2017, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 4 2017, 12:45 PM) Yes You care RIGHT. Bro u talking abt sentul link? Its frm sentul 2 mahameru, nt jln kuchingNot many people aware that the Direct flyover from Jln Kuching to Sentul was actually constructed by YTL many many years ago.... |
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Sep 8 2017, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(teohkl2006 @ Sep 7 2017, 11:19 PM) Good idea :thumbsup: Who would like to be the admin? I can help to setup. Owners can send me pm with unit and whatsapp no |
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Sep 8 2017, 09:39 PM
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Sep 8 2017, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Sep 8 2017, 06:49 PM) I can help to setup. Owners can send me pm with unit and whatsapp no Thanks... already PM you. |
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Sep 8 2017, 11:44 PM
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As requested , Whatsapp grp has been created. For those owners who wished to join pls pm me
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Sep 19 2017, 09:27 PM
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Looking elegant at night
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Sep 20 2017, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Sep 8 2017, 11:44 PM) As requested , Whatsapp grp has been created. For those owners who wished to join pls pm me done, thanks |
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Sep 20 2017, 08:17 PM
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anyone know what is the current package for fennel?
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Sep 20 2017, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Sep 20 2017, 08:17 PM) anyone know what is the current package for fennel? You can visit their star hill gallery and pls let me know with the package. 😂 |
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Oct 1 2017, 10:56 PM
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Who can advise regarding balcony safety? Since there is cladding on d wall, not sure can install Invisible Grille or not. Ytl no reply.
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Oct 4 2017, 05:55 PM
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Fennel completion slated for Nov 2017. So soon
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Oct 4 2017, 07:05 PM
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Can anyone confirm local council have approved fire rating & combustibility of cladding/curtain wall? If can handover VP means local council & Architect is comfortable with cladding safety since CCC had been issued? Grenfell Tower fire must not happen again!
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Oct 4 2017, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Oct 4 2017, 05:55 PM) Fennel completion slated for Nov 2017. So soon Any insider pictures to share ? |
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Oct 4 2017, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Oct 4 2017, 05:55 PM) Fennel completion slated for Nov 2017. So soon yes, any sources for this date? |
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Oct 5 2017, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(teohkl2006 @ Sep 8 2017, 10:37 PM) Thanks... already PM you. Just PM you my contact....have you received? thx |
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Oct 5 2017, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Oct 4 2017, 10:50 PM) Any insider pictures to share ? Would love to see some. Maybe we happen to be neighbors? Haha |
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Oct 5 2017, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Oct 5 2017, 07:59 PM) Would love to see some. Maybe we happen to be neighbors? Haha Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Oct 6 2017, 01:27 PM
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Alternate entrance to Fennel near Sentul Boulevard.
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Oct 6 2017, 02:12 PM
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Creative people do differently than the rest, great job, keep it up and construct more masterpiece.
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Oct 6 2017, 03:52 PM
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Oct 6 2017, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(ewingcher @ Oct 5 2017, 10:11 PM) YTL has learnt and put the balcony so that the partition stay within the wall. |
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Oct 6 2017, 07:54 PM
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Anybody who wish to join the whatsapp onwers grp , pls send me a pm with your name and unit no
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Oct 11 2017, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Oct 6 2017, 07:54 PM) Anybody who wish to join the whatsapp onwers grp , pls send me a pm with your name and unit no Hi, I have PM you my contact and details..thanks. if received please reply. Am new so still learning how to use the functions! Lol |
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Oct 11 2017, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Cassa8 @ Oct 11 2017, 06:59 PM) Hi, I have PM you my contact and details..thanks. if received please reply. Am new so still learning how to use the functions! Lol Hi I've replied your pm |
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Oct 11 2017, 11:33 PM
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fennel still available?
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Oct 12 2017, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Oct 11 2017, 11:33 PM) fennel still available? Yup |
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Oct 12 2017, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Oct 12 2017, 02:09 AM) Yup Pardon me, may I know are you an agent or owner. My apologies as I have not been following the trails of conversation. Thanks |
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Oct 12 2017, 10:30 AM
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i pass the fennel everyday otw to work.
landscaping finished edi and looking good. VP date of Nov 17 is very likely and achievable looking at the progress at site. for purchasers is it on schedule, early or late..lol..no chance for LAD it seems..lol |
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Oct 12 2017, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(Cassa8 @ Oct 12 2017, 07:54 AM) Pardon me, may I know are you an agent or owner. My apologies as I have not been following the trails of conversation. Thanks Owner |
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Oct 12 2017, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Oct 12 2017, 10:30 AM) i pass the fennel everyday otw to work. landscaping finished edi and looking good. VP date of Nov 17 is very likely and achievable looking at the progress at site. for purchasers is it on schedule, early or late..lol..no chance for LAD it seems..lol hope to celebrate at fennel soon |
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Oct 12 2017, 08:25 PM
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[quote=ewingcher,Oct 5 2017, 10:11 PM]
[/quote How to make store room? No store room. This post has been edited by Lowyat_Lowyat: Oct 12 2017, 08:26 PM |
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Oct 13 2017, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Oct 12 2017, 11:40 AM) hope to celebrate at fennel soonbut every morning out of gate straight jam wor..haha |
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Oct 13 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Oct 13 2017, 09:31 AM) congrats bro! which block yours? not me, celebrate my friends open house, not sure which block but every morning out of gate straight jam wor..haha |
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Oct 13 2017, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Oct 13 2017, 10:30 AM) not me, celebrate my friends open house, not sure which block ahaha..nice onebut seriously fennel is one good looking condo mang |
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Oct 13 2017, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(ewingcher @ Oct 5 2017, 10:11 PM) |
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Oct 14 2017, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(jan2173t @ Oct 5 2017, 09:46 AM) Dear valued Purchaser, Can u pls show the available carpark plan here? Am overseas so can't visit sales office to view ...please indicate entrance so can judge how far the car park distance...thanks!Greetings! As you may be aware, construction of The Fennel is at its final phase with completion slated for November 2017. On this note, consideration for additional car parking bays is an immediate priority for your property, be it for own use or from an investment viewpoint. You will be pleased to know that we are opening up the few available parking bays for sale now. Please contact our Sales & Marketing team at tel. no.: +603 2143 3000 /+603 2141 1868, 10am – 5pm for more information. The sale of car parking bays to purchasers is subject to availability and is strictly on a first-come, first-served basis. Thank you. Yours faithfully, SENTUL RAYA SDN BHD |
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Nov 9 2017, 01:27 AM
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Fennel owners who wish to be in a whatsapp group , kindly send me a pm with your name and unit no.
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Nov 9 2017, 07:46 AM
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can i ask how much is fennel selling now?
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Nov 9 2017, 01:06 PM
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wow fennel vped....interesting. Whats the latest sales chart...potnetial buyer can now view the actual prod...but also flipper has no chance..
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Nov 9 2017, 01:14 PM
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unique facade
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Nov 9 2017, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(innsean @ Nov 9 2017, 02:14 PM) unique facade no more unique after so many similar blocks there..capers fennnel...feel dizzy |
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Nov 9 2017, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 9 2017, 01:06 PM) wow fennel vped....interesting. Whats the latest sales chart...potnetial buyer can now view the actual prod...but also flipper has no chance.. If flipper has no chance mean could be available in bank auction in 2019.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 9 2017, 02:58 PM |
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Nov 9 2017, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 9 2017, 01:31 PM) no more unique after so many similar blocks there..capers fennnel...feel dizzy Yeah wish there were only 200+ exclusive units . |
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 9 2017, 01:06 PM) wow fennel vped....interesting. Whats the latest sales chart...potnetial buyer can now view the actual prod...but also flipper has no chance.. VPed? You have received invite from YTL? |
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Nov 10 2017, 12:08 PM
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I'm interested in the fennel for own stay. Left my number at their official website but no response.
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Nov 10 2017, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 9 2017, 02:57 PM) If flipper has no chance mean could be available in bank auction in 2019. Confirm good,look at mah sing M citt ampang berlambak.tose no holding power prepare to brave thr storm for coming 2-3 years |
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Nov 10 2017, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(hyumi @ Nov 10 2017, 12:08 PM) I'm interested in the fennel for own stay. Left my number at their official website but no response. Buy developer's unit. Usually better package than subsale.Is it better to purchase directly from the developer (are there any units left?) or wait for subsale |
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Nov 12 2017, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(botaknet @ Nov 10 2017, 01:00 PM) Buy developer's unit. Usually better package than subsale. They still have units. Best to visit their sales office to enquire / select your unit . |
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Nov 12 2017, 12:45 PM
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or wait til next year when fennel vp...
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The Star Property has an article on the rise of auction units. So yeah, when banyak VP next year, can try if not in hurry to get one now.
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Nov 12 2017, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(David_77 @ Nov 12 2017, 12:50 PM) The Star Property has an article on the rise of auction units. So yeah, when banyak VP next year, can try if not in hurry to get one now. auction unit a bit tricky. for someone that has no experience in getting auction property, better don't touch it.wait for subsale.......but as usual, capital outlay is higher when compared to get developers units. BUT you can see and feel what you are getting. |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 12 2017, 12:56 PM) auction unit a bit tricky. for someone that has no experience in getting auction property, better don't touch it. But sub-Sales also can sell below MV but in SPA put MV? If so, maybe also no need to come out with capital layout for unit (legal and loan fees only perhaps)?wait for subsale.......but as usual, capital outlay is higher when compared to get developers units. BUT you can see and feel what you are getting. |
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Nov 12 2017, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(David_77 @ Nov 12 2017, 01:04 PM) But sub-Sales also can sell below MV but in SPA put MV? If so, maybe also no need to come out with capital layout for unit (legal and loan fees only perhaps)? we talk abt proper dealing lah....not those sneaky illegal cheat the bank dealing.beside, what benefit does seller has to sell at MV? pay more rpgt? possible get caught? |
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Nov 12 2017, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 12 2017, 02:29 PM) we talk abt proper dealing lah....not those sneaky illegal cheat the bank dealing. Lol! There’s proper and there’s ‘proper’.beside, what benefit does seller has to sell at MV? pay more rpgt? possible get caught? |
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Nov 20 2017, 09:35 PM
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Does anyone knows when’s the handover dates? Short call to ytl office is saying by 2017
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Nov 20 2017, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(lazza @ Nov 20 2017, 09:35 PM) Does anyone knows when’s the handover dates? Short call to ytl office is saying by 2017 Looking at Dec / Jan. ARe u an owner? If yes we do have a whatsapp grp if u r keen to join. |
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Nov 20 2017, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(trust4you @ Nov 10 2017, 12:38 PM) Confirm good,look at mah sing M citt ampang berlambak.tose no holding power prepare to brave thr storm for coming 2-3 years The clientele in YTL project has very different profile.... they have holding power.. you hardly see any auction cases compare with other completed development. Major recession, i don’t know but i think nobody will be buying if it happen. |
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Dec 1 2017, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(King Gor @ Dec 1 2017, 07:36 PM) beautiful stuffs |
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QUOTE(FuNks @ Dec 2 2017, 12:09 AM) beautiful stuffs Build with passion as passion is oxygen of the soul. |
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Seems like on par with the price of consumer paying. Nice building !
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Dec 2 2017, 11:12 AM) Seems like on par with the price of consumer paying. Nice building ! Will receive the L.O.V.E letter soon? |
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Dec 2 2017, 04:58 PM
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Am i the only one thinks that the side of the building look ugly...like tiles falling off. Capers look more simple and elegant
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Dec 2 2017, 08:17 PM
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The biggest questi u should ask is not the look of tiles fallibg offbut the MV , now dvloper building many much much cheaper high rise at same Sentul area, wat will happen to those investors and their overpriced studios ...
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Dec 2 2017, 11:10 PM
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There was a crooked man who built a crooked house....but old rhymes unheard now
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Dec 6 2017, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(brother love @ Dec 2 2017, 08:17 PM) The biggest questi u should ask is not the look of tiles fallibg offbut the MV , now dvloper building many much much cheaper high rise at same Sentul area, wat will happen to those investors and their overpriced studios ... the tenant profile is very different... those with better budget will choose here. New developments - target lower spending group. Dont see any drop in market value for Fennel as the buyer profile is quite strong.Other developments around the area- especially with high rebates, standalone development, will suffer the most backlash. |
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Dec 6 2017, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(sosobear @ Dec 6 2017, 12:51 AM) the tenant profile is very different... those with better budget will choose here. New developments - target lower spending group. Dont see any drop in market value for Fennel as the buyer profile is quite strong. Over 1000 units....i dun think all buyers have deep pocket.Other developments around the area- especially with high rebates, standalone development, will suffer the most backlash. Beside fennel not vped yet. But judging fron subsale responses of capers...it aint looking good. Nobody can sell any properties on market value now. Even ytl camt sell the last block on market value. |
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Dec 6 2017, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 01:04 AM) Over 1000 units....i dun think all buyers have deep pocket. you’re right on mv, but the ytl buyer can hold, less auction.Beside fennel not vped yet. But judging fron subsale responses of capers...it aint looking good. Nobody can sell any properties on market value now. Even ytl camt sell the last block on market value. Unlike other rebates development, not only they cannot hold, there will be many auction, this in fact will make the development mv drop and your tenant profile cheapo - end up selling at loss. |
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Dec 6 2017, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(sosobear @ Dec 6 2017, 01:18 AM) you’re right on mv, but the ytl buyer can hold, less auction. Whether buyers have deep pocket or not will be known after loan repayment started.Unlike other rebates development, not only they cannot hold, there will be many auction, this in fact will make the development mv drop and your tenant profile cheapo - end up selling at loss. |
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Dec 6 2017, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(sosobear @ Dec 6 2017, 01:18 AM) you’re right on mv, but the ytl buyer can hold, less auction. hmmm....seems like you are the spoke person for all YTL buyers..... Unlike other rebates development, not only they cannot hold, there will be many auction, this in fact will make the development mv drop and your tenant profile cheapo - end up selling at loss. actually dun have to wait til auction units available before can say how the subsale performed. auction property is usually the absolute last resort jor. honestly I dun wish to see fennel being the auction hot house....but at tis moment, I also believe this property wont be able to command good rental and subsale prices. That's just me.....tok kok only. |
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QUOTE(sosobear @ Dec 6 2017, 01:18 AM) you’re right on mv, but the ytl buyer can hold, less auction. wa... ini big statement o.... rebates developments already set as an indicator for you to judge the buyers can really hold or not liao... kesian those mareshians who like rebates and discounts even though they are rich and have holding power.... Unlike other rebates development, not only they cannot hold, there will be many auction, this in fact will make the development mv drop and your tenant profile cheapo - end up selling at loss. |
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Dec 6 2017, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 6 2017, 10:52 AM) wa... ini big statement o.... rebates developments already set as an indicator for you to judge the buyers can really hold or not liao... kesian those mareshians who like rebates and discounts even though they are rich and have holding power.... honestly lesser deposit or non deposit projects are mainly targeting at people with every little cash saving and Investors. I have to agree to some extend with sosobear. rich and strong holding power has nothing to do with sale tactics....its more about value buy. unless and until you yourself are rich and have strong holding power, you wont know how they think. This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Dec 6 2017, 10:59 AM |
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 10:59 AM) honestly lesser deposit or non deposit projects are mainly targeting at people with every little cash saving and Investors. well... sometimes we cant judge someone based on just a few benchmarks... there are also alot of rich investors wanna squeeze as much as possible from bank too... as long as its in line with their financial and investment planning...I have to agree to some extend with sosobear. rich and strong holding power has nothing to do with sale tactics....its more about value buy. unless and until you yourself are rich and have strong holding power, you wont know how they think. just that rich ppl looking at value buy are different from middle income buyers' value buy.... they may look at 800k to 1m prop and ppl like me just wan something below 500k getting the cheapest money from bank might not be a bad thing too... for other properties that priced like funnel and offering higher rebates... can we assume they are they are same category of buyers...? haha |
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Dec 6 2017, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 6 2017, 11:06 AM) well... sometimes we cant judge someone based on just a few benchmarks... there are also alot of rich investors wanna squeeze as much as possible from bank too... as long as its in line with their financial and investment planning... its called 'OPM' - using other people money to enrich yourself.just that rich ppl looking at value buy are different from middle income buyers' value buy.... they may look at 800k to 1m prop and ppl like me just wan something below 500k getting the cheapest money from bank might not be a bad thing too... for other properties that priced like funnel and offering higher rebates... can we assume they are they are same category of buyers...? haha I dunno what was the rebate like for fennels 1 to 3 blocks, but assume there were many investor wannabe as it was launched during the BBB tail end booming period. |
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Dec 6 2017, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 10:46 AM) hmmm....seems like you are the spoke person for all YTL buyers..... Not really consider a spoke person. But i had own, stay and make little profit from ytl. Neighbours a lot executive level, bankers, celeb, businessman from outstation. am very sure they can hold longer. actually dun have to wait til auction units available before can say how the subsale performed. auction property is usually the absolute last resort jor. honestly I dun wish to see fennel being the auction hot house....but at tis moment, I also believe this property wont be able to command good rental and subsale prices. That's just me.....tok kok only. Though will not see any improvement in subsale in a while. Won’t command good rental but you’ll have good tenant profile. This post has been edited by sosobear: Dec 6 2017, 03:01 PM |
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 6 2017, 10:52 AM) wa... ini big statement o.... rebates developments already set as an indicator for you to judge the buyers can really hold or not liao... kesian those mareshians who like rebates and discounts even though they are rich and have holding power.... not to say all. But the fact is, they are targeting cash strapped people, gonna hit people with no holding power first. This gonna create many auctions, and ppl with holding power is going to stuck, since the auction price will bring mv down. And if you’re renting cheap...you know who what to expect your tenant. Take example of subsale nearby, bayu sentul - rebates and auctions. This post has been edited by sosobear: Dec 6 2017, 03:01 PM |
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Dec 6 2017, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 09:59 AM) honestly lesser deposit or non deposit projects are mainly targeting at people with every little cash saving and Investors. Strong holding power one usually no need to apply loan, they pay cash. "so sir....madam... which bank housing loan u gonna apply?" "I pay cash" I have to agree to some extend with sosobear. rich and strong holding power has nothing to do with sale tactics....its more about value buy. unless and until you yourself are rich and have strong holding power, you wont know how they think. |
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Dec 6 2017, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(planc @ Dec 6 2017, 03:40 PM) Strong holding power one usually no need to apply loan, they pay cash. "so sir....madam... which bank housing loan u gonna apply?" "I pay cash" nanti kena siasat by Inland Revenue and Anti koruption. |
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Dec 6 2017, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 03:24 PM) nanti kena siasat by Inland Revenue and Anti koruption. She always inspire me! https://youtu.be/viV7GvwXTGk |
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QUOTE(sosobear @ Dec 6 2017, 02:56 PM) not to say all. But the fact is, they are targeting cash strapped people, gonna hit people with no holding power first. This gonna create many auctions, and ppl with holding power is going to stuck, since the auction price will bring mv down. And if you’re renting cheap...you know who what to expect your tenant. Take example of subsale nearby, bayu sentul - rebates and auctions. Bayu sentul is not apple to apple comparison. that is a shitty project at a bad location. I guess better comparison should be VS The Reach. |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 6 2017, 04:50 PM) Bayu sentul is not apple to apple comparison. that is a shitty project at a bad location. Of course it’s not. Very different profile. Just an example of rebate completed project. Many auction The Reach?I guess better comparison should be VS The Reach. This post has been edited by sosobear: Dec 6 2017, 04:56 PM |
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QUOTE(planc @ Dec 6 2017, 04:44 PM) I'm sexy and I know it....... |
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Dec 6 2017, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 03:57 PM) I'm sexy and I know it....... Startup as a kampung teacher till become a dato seri today..like Ma Yun! Both also startup as a teacher and love to sing. |
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QUOTE(sosobear @ Dec 6 2017, 01:18 AM) you’re right on mv, but the ytl buyer can hold, less auction. Yup your statement buyer here got deeper pocket is correct. Zero auction units yet. Unlike other rebates development, not only they cannot hold, there will be many auction, this in fact will make the development mv drop and your tenant profile cheapo - end up selling at loss. As compare to The Reach. Direct comparison. Already got the second unit in the auction market as of today. 1. At 800k. 2. At 850k. |
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Dec 7 2017, 11:02 AM
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fennel not vped yet rite???????
zero auction referred to Capers? |
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Dec 7 2017, 12:50 PM
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yeah sorry. in comparison with Capers i mean.
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Dec 7 2017, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Dec 7 2017, 12:50 PM) yeah sorry. in comparison with Capers i mean. Yea capers handover was beginning of 2015. |
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Dec 7 2017, 06:37 PM
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The side suppose to look like this wei...not falling tiles
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Dec 13 2017, 08:27 AM
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VP!!
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Dec 14 2017, 11:30 PM
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Officially vped. Owners are receiving letters. If u would like to join the owners whatsapp grp feel free to pm me
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Dec 14 2017, 11:47 PM
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When there will be on site show house ?
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Dec 15 2017, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(djvixx @ Dec 15 2017, 12:47 AM) When there will be on site show house ? YTL project mana ada showhouse punya. Happy collecting keys. Congratulations to owners. Building Manager from The Saffron is transferring there to continue the legacy. |
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Dec 15 2017, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Dec 15 2017, 09:52 AM) YTL project mana ada showhouse punya. I dunno about YTL condos... Happy collecting keys. Congratulations to owners. Building Manager from The Saffron is transferring there to continue the legacy. but landed, at least Lake Edge puchong got show houses. Maybe for landed, its more difficult for potential buyers to visualise the layout. |
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Dec 16 2017, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 15 2017, 11:20 AM) I dunno about YTL condos... Heard there will be show units coming soonbut landed, at least Lake Edge puchong got show houses. Maybe for landed, its more difficult for potential buyers to visualise the layout. |
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Dec 17 2017, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Dec 16 2017, 01:36 AM) Heard there will be show units coming soon Betul kah? that will be interesting. Is the show unit on site? Then will be additional visitors in/out the condo.Unless by appointments. |
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Dec 17 2017, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Dec 16 2017, 12:36 AM) Heard there will be show units coming soon QUOTE(bytan9009 @ Dec 17 2017, 08:28 AM) Betul kah? that will be interesting. Is the show unit on site? Then will be additional visitors in/out the condo. If materialize mean the developer has many units unsold.Unless by appointments. |
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Dec 17 2017, 08:51 AM
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with 5x units transferred to KTM included in the number, there should be less than 50 units of block C r unsold. (this number will include unopened floor also). for 916 units development, considered very good.
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Dec 17 2017, 10:35 AM
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i very doubt that ytl will use one of the units as show unit if only 50+ units unsold.
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Dec 17 2017, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Dec 16 2017, 12:36 AM) Heard there will be show units coming soon Will they provide renovation package for the buyer like Capers last time? |
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Dec 17 2017, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(myers @ Dec 17 2017, 08:32 AM) If materialize mean the developer has many units unsold. Not cheap to join da club! Min entry for 3bedroom is RM100k CASH |
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Dec 17 2017, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(King Gor @ Dec 17 2017, 01:45 PM) Not cheap to join da club! Min entry for 3bedroom is RM100k CASH Developer could package cash back, rebate, discount, etc to reduce actual down payment. |
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Dec 17 2017, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(myers @ Dec 17 2017, 03:09 PM) Developer could package cash back, rebate, discount, etc to reduce actual down payment. QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 6 2017, 10:59 AM) honestly lesser deposit or non deposit projects are mainly targeting at people with every little cash saving and Investors. I have to agree to some extend with sosobear. rich and strong holding power has nothing to do with sale tactics....its more about value buy. unless and until you yourself are rich and have strong holding power, you wont know how they think. |
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Dec 17 2017, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(King Gor @ Dec 17 2017, 01:44 PM) Will they provide renovation package for the buyer like Capers last time? No |
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Has anyone gotten VP? Any feedback on final product?
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Dec 31 2017, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Sep 20 2017, 02:13 PM) done, thanks hi, pls add me in 0123774417, thx |
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Just collected my keys today. (Block D, Phase 1)
Unit finishing surprisingly good, after the horror stories I heard, of previous YTL projects like Midfields. Will take a closer look again. 4 Panasonic aircon & 3 Sigma storage heaters included. 12 months complimentary 6 mbps internet from YTL Broadband. Kind slow but you can upgrade to higher speeds I guess. Not a fan of open bathrooms but it can be remedied. People might not be a fan of dark colors used for the corridor and wet kitchen, but it doesn't bother me. Tiny wet kitchen might be a deal breaker for some people. Plenty of visitor carparks for guests. KONE lifts used and glass lifts to facilities floor are kinda cool. Decent sized pool and 2 gyms ( 1 weight lifting, 1 cardio) for every 2 blocks. Lots of greens planted too. Can't complain @ 600+ psf + DIBS. Some photos below:        This post has been edited by tetsu: Jan 2 2018, 07:09 PM |
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QUOTE(tetsu @ Jan 2 2018, 07:06 PM) Just collected my keys today. (Block D, Phase 1) Looking great. Congrats 👍Unit finishing surprisingly good, after the horror stories I heard, of previous YTL projects like Midfields. Will take a closer look again. 4 Panasonic aircon & 3 Sigma storage heaters included. 12 months complimentary 6 mbps internet from YTL Broadband. Kind slow but you can upgrade to higher speeds I guess. Not a fan of open bathrooms but it can be remedied. People might not be a fan of dark colors used for the corridor and wet kitchen, but it doesn't bother me. Tiny wet kitchen might be a deal breaker for some people. Plenty of visitor carparks for guests. KONE lifts used and glass lifts to facilities floor are kinda cool. Decent sized pool and 2 gyms ( 1 weight lifting, 1 cardio) for every 2 blocks. Lots of greens planted too. Can't complain @ 600+ psf + DIBS. Some photos below: |
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Jan 2 2018, 08:29 PM
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that bathroom though.....
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Jan 2 2018, 08:38 PM
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The bathroom so romantic...can see through >.<
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Jan 2 2018, 10:42 PM
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Looks nice, very beautiful facade but the balcony...
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Jan 3 2018, 12:14 AM
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any subsale unit now? hehe
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Jan 3 2018, 09:20 AM
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Does anyone know what is the construction besides Block A and D?
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Jan 3 2018, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Jan 2 2018, 10:42 PM) Looks nice, very beautiful facade but the balcony... you cant have it all. something is gonna to give. |
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Jan 3 2018, 12:14 AM) any subsale unit now? hehe You want to have a look at mine? 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Jan 3 2018, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Dec 14 2017, 11:30 PM) Officially vped. Owners are receiving letters. If u would like to join the owners whatsapp grp feel free to pm me Add me in 0122601993 . Thanks |
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Jan 3 2018, 01:38 PM
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How's rental demand?
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QUOTE(n_minie @ Dec 14 2017, 11:30 PM) Officially vped. Owners are receiving letters. If u would like to join the owners whatsapp grp feel free to pm me Hi, i stay in Block D, pls add me in @0123774417. Thx |
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QUOTE(Adamong33 @ Jan 9 2018, 11:26 PM) Hi, i stay in Block D, pls add me in @0123774417. Thx Hi, the facade of the building looks a bit ugly ? or is it the quality (colour) of the photo?looks like the "Stunning images of Hong Kong 'living cubicles' ? This post has been edited by pinkdm: Jan 12 2018, 09:18 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(pinkdm @ Jan 11 2018, 03:20 PM) Hi, the facade of the building looks a bit ugly ? ugly ones are those flatish looking residensi.....like most in the city..... |
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Jan 11 2018, 06:10 PM
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I have the different viewing. Fennel actually the design look outstanding. I jogging in titiwangsa park, the building really capture my eye. Understand the design might waste a lot of space, however Malaysia should have more this outstanding design, not always typical design.
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Jan 11 2018, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(pinkdm @ Jan 11 2018, 03:20 PM) Hi, the facade of the building looks a bit ugly ? You must be blind or colour blind. 😆looks like the "Stunning images of Hong Kong 'living cubicles' ? |
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QUOTE(djvixx @ Jan 11 2018, 07:43 PM) You must be blind or colour blind. 😆 are these water thank? so obvious !? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(pinkdm @ Jan 12 2018, 10:06 AM) are these water thank? so obvious !? to appreciate an art work or a piece of masterpiece, you are not supposed to scrutinise everything in details. nothing is perfect.even for human, you think those handsome hulks and beautiful ladies have no flaws at all if you scrutinise them closely? having said this, the most important factor for a property is ITS LOCATION. you can create a masterpiece in ulu yam but how many people will appreciate it? |
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QUOTE(pinkdm @ Jan 11 2018, 03:20 PM) Hi, the facade of the building looks a bit ugly ? Those hong kong cubicles are much more expensive than Fennel. or is it the quality (colour) of the photo?looks like the "Stunning images of Hong Kong 'living cubicles' ? |
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YTL always did the best in town , really impressive
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