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Investment THE FENNEL @ SENTUL EAST by YTL (V2), Sentul East KL

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icemanfx
post Jul 7 2017, 03:09 PM

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The Fennel Phase 2: Over 80 per cent sold in two days
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...es-in-two-days/

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QUOTE(ganster123 @ Nov 16 2013, 08:16 PM)
Still have some for tomorrow. Especially those facing pool and facing north. Some transactions for your reference:
Pool view = B4x6 @ 1186sf = RM1mil
KLCC view = B3x4 @ 1237sf = RM1mil
RM1mil condo at Sentul on 2013 is crazy but will be normal on 2018  brows.gif
QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 7 2017, 11:42 AM)
With 20% discount for dual key unit seem like good offer
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Supposedly sold out back in 2013

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post Jul 7 2017, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 7 2017, 03:56 PM)
There are 4 blocks.... and the one sold were first 2 blocks...
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It was claimed to be the last of dibs project.

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post Jul 9 2017, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 02:06 PM)
Somehow the low cost owners seemed cheated. Till now YTL hadn't built anything for them. This  has been more than three years since their house was torn down ..
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QUOTE(mkhooi @ Jul 8 2017, 10:18 PM)
http://m.thesundaily.my/node/308548

Promise then next year deliver till now nothing has started.

Developer like that one lah. Low cost not much margin mah
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If the low cost is to build near to fennel, it will be in the developer interest to commence after fennel is sold out.

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post Jul 15 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 15 2017, 03:47 PM)
Padam muka ytl.....

Becomes joke of new launches
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What about those queued to buy earlier phase?

icemanfx
post Jul 16 2017, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Jul 16 2017, 07:08 PM)
Not much units left for final phase, less than half after minus out ktmb units, haters or lovers I would say take every opportunities in life because some things only happen once.
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One can say the same to 6d Toto, genting, etc and without taking up liability.

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post Jul 17 2017, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 17 2017, 01:17 AM)
Residential condo without balcony.......even 1500sq....feel caged.
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Beside drying laundry, how many people use balcony regularly?

A reason why balcony is eliminated is to avoid display of multi national colour.

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post Jul 17 2017, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(ace77 @ Jul 17 2017, 07:06 AM)
SMS non stop for 20% discount
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How much price increase from last phase?

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post Jul 21 2017, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Jul 21 2017, 12:14 PM)
Discounts getting lesser lo as d weeks passed, many ppl mayb kancheong d go bbb, good marketing strategy
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Typical of developer tactic for kiasu buyers.

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post Jul 22 2017, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 02:27 AM)
Those low appreciation, negative cash flow and after 6-7years developer still haven't finish selling their unit
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Why you think this place will not end up the same like your previous buy?

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post Jul 22 2017, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(jhuitan @ Jul 22 2017, 09:23 AM)
First of all i already finish my quota not able to buy this condo. This place won b end up like my previois buy because usually ytl project tight security, good maintenance and management, grand entrances and stunning facades,  decent facilities, convenient location, practical layout, good entry price even cheaper than subsale nearby, masterbed toilet floor and wall compress mable, room provide solid wood flooring.
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Why didn't you buy in 2014?

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post Aug 26 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 08:24 AM)
i am vested and am now worried about the use of ACP in this building after Grenfell.  Feel like crying.  Does anyone know anything if there really is ACP used in the fascade of the Capers and Fennel?
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If fire risks is your concern, you could buy fire insurance.

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post Aug 26 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 26 2017, 11:44 AM)
"That's terrifying," said Matt Roberts, 31, after being told his building, the Elm Apartments in Southbank, is one of six buildings the Metropolitan Fire Brigade has placed on its enhanced response list.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/tenants-...622-gwwceb.html

My friend (as u all know that usually means "I") own an apartment here and the council may revoke the certificate of fitness here, and in the last two sessions of joint meetings with the authorities the Contractor seem to have gone into hiding.
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After cf/ccc is issued, if owners find it unsatisfactory; the only practical solution is to replace at owners cost or move out/sell.

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post Aug 28 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 11:16 AM)
unofficially got information from the respective people at the Fennel ... all sounds good from an engineering point of view, and alucobond is mentioned as the product in use ... so will wait for their official written response.  so kudos, they were very quick to respond.
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QUOTE(m0n0p0ly @ Aug 28 2017, 12:23 PM)
ACP is good material for building exterior, reduction in structural thermal bridging, protection the wall surface against rain and weather, facade remains beautiful and self clean over long period..For Grenfell case is different, they want save cost use the cheaper Reynobond PE cladding, which contain flammable polyethylene..

"Experts said the composite foam sandwich panels helped spread the fire quickly from the lower floors all the way up the block.

The material used in the cladding on Grenfell was the cheaper, more flammable version of the two available options, an investigation of the supply chain by The Guardian has claimed.

Fireproof cladding initially planned for Grenfell was reportedly downgraded so the council could save money."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3804113/grenf...latest-updates/
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Reynobond and alucobond are brand name of ACP.

fennel acp was ordered before grenfell incident; unless the developer could disclose the acp core materials, no reason why they didn't choose the cheaper materials.

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post Aug 28 2017, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 01:19 PM)
i have gotten a written reply and i am not happy.  now i do not know if this is information that i can make public?

i any case the material is made in malaysia and is NOT as i was told Alucobond.  i am only one small kichimiao ... other buyers should query the case, there is only so much 1 buyer can do.

irrespective of any certification i am asking if YTL themselves are satisfied with the product.  If i get a response i will have to again consider if it can be made public.

i do not mind lowyat making me known to YTL if that is required to publish their reply here.
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The developer is obviously satisfied with the acp else they would not have ordered.

QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 01:23 PM)
"The question then, is who is at fault and who should pay.

Bannermans principal lawyer David Bannerman said a “stream of liability” would need to be worked through – from importers and subcontractors through to architects and certifiers.

There is only a two-year statutory warranty on non-compliant aluminium cladding for buildings in contracts entered into after February 2012, and a seven-year timeline for those contracted before that date.

“For those who have missed the warranty period there are other more difficult legal avenues to pursue,” said Mr Bannerman.

“Nobody knew about it until the last few years.”"

https://www.domain.com.au/news/the-bad-stuf...0170823-gy2ug1/

if this case is one of those problematic products being used YTL should fire test the product in a respectable countries lab and respond accordingly.

any legal case is easier to pursue earlier than later. (i am merely suggesting that if there be a need for one)

above article is sydney based
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Normally developer obtained approval from architect and consultant before purchase. as long as it complied to prevailing bye law and regulations, developer liability is limited.



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post Aug 28 2017, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 28 2017, 05:39 PM)
i guess i am being demanding and asking at this stage before VP, that YTL send out a letter to all their buyers to assure everyone that the highest of standard and no compromises have been made in the quality and safety of the product their Architects have finally decide to accept.

i should also be made known to buyers if by accepting this alternative was there a substantial reduction in cost that was passed to the developer, or contractor, should the product be cited as being equal or better than the original specifications by the Architects http://www.rtnq.com/

of course as buyers consists mainly of lay people, the Singaporean Architects could describe pictorially how these sections are different from those in grenfell or how the method of usage differs and are hence safe

i have now learnt that the composite material used inside is composed of non-combustible mineral filled core (to be verified by others who know the matter)
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Believe there isn't a regulatory requirement currently for fire resistance rated external wall cladding. given mineral wool absorb water and more expensive, few developer choose mineral filled core acp voluntarily.

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post Aug 30 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Frankoi @ Aug 30 2017, 10:32 AM)
been told that fennel uses mineral filling for the composite panel
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Then you could sleep soundly at night.

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post Nov 9 2017, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 9 2017, 01:06 PM)
wow fennel vped....interesting. Whats the latest sales chart...potnetial buyer can now view the actual prod...but also flipper has no chance..
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If flipper has no chance mean could be available in bank auction in 2019.

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post Jan 15 2018, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(pinkdm @ Jan 15 2018, 11:11 AM)
Agreed , "very beautiful facade but the balcony... doh.gif"

can't even place a mini table & chair !?
& the maintenance of these "bars" also major work - not to mention a potential Fire hazards in the even of fire !?
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Balcony meant for smoking purpose, standing room is sufficient.

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post Jan 21 2018, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jan 21 2018, 11:07 AM)
YTL didn't guarantee view in writing.

get over it. you are not just sit right next to Klcc plot.
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May be the developer will exchange his unit to another block or demolish the obstacle.
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post Mar 26 2018, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(urb7 @ Mar 26 2018, 12:23 PM)
I beg to differ on Bofi being the same quality with Signature. I have seen both and you can compare it straight up. Just tap their cabinet doors and you can test the density.  Bofi's solid AF.

Aiya, don't talk about Boffi @ RM690psf development at Fennel la - not even Pavilion Damansara heights @ Rm1750psf is giving BOFFI or poggenpohl.
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Most of those bought branded kitchen cabinets rarely cook.

Whether is solid af or mdf is still attacked by termite, and current design will be out of fashion in 20 years time.


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