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post Jul 18 2014, 02:13 PM, updated 11y ago

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Welcome to V60!!!

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Sony Alpha F.A.Q
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Sony Alpha Lens Line-up: HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera:

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A77 (soft version), A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A77, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals: Sony Support Site A200 A300/A350 A700 A900

How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok:



Some useful links:

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324

Alpha street pricelist updated 26th October 2013:

Camera

Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A290 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A390 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM17xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM23xx
Sony A35 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A37 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM15xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx
Sony A550 body only = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx
Sony A580 body only = RM24xx
Sony A580 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM27xx
Sony A55 body only + 8GB MSPD HX = RM21xx
Sony A55 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM25xx
Sony A55 + 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM26xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A55 + 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM37xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A57 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A58 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM19xx NEW
Sony A65 body only = RM26xx
Sony A65 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM28xx
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A77 body only = RM38xx
Sony A77 + 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM = RM48xx
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A99 body only = RM74xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 = RM16xx
Sony NEX-3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-C3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM19xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS = RM25xx
Sony NEX-3N + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD (x2) = RM14xx NEW
Sony NEX-3N + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD = RM18xx NEW
Sony NEX-5 + 16mm F2.8 = RM21xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 4GB MSPD = RM23xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS + 8GB MSPD + LCD protector = RM32xx
Sony NEX-5N + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB MSPD = RM26xx
Sony NEX-5R + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD = RM18xx
Sony NEX-5R + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD = RM25xx
Sony NEX-6 + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD = RM27xx
Sony NEX-6 + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD (x2) = RM34xx
Sony NEX-7 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 16GB SD = RM39xx
Sony VG-900 = RM94xx

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
M = Sony 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM (or Sony 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM with A77)
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA

For Sony NEX bodies:

A = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake
D = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake + Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
H = Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS
K = Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
L = Sony E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS pancake
Y = Sony E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS pancake + Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS

Battery Grip

Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-B50AM for A450/A500/A550/A560/A580 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A850/A900 = RM9xx

Battery

Sony NP-FH50 battery for A230/A290/A330/A380/A390 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FW50 battery for NEX-3/NEX-C3/NEX-F3/NEX-3N/NEX-5/NEX-5N/NEX-5R/NEX-5T/NEX-6/NEX-7/A33/A35/A37/A55 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FM500H battery for A100/A200/A300/A350/A450/A500/A550/A560/A580/A700/A850/A900/A57/A58/A65/A77/A99 = RM2xx

Other Accessories

Sony FDA-EVS1 electronic viewfinder for NEX-5N = RM9xx

Flash

Sony HVL-F20S = RM3xx
Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F43AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx
Sony HVL-F60M = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses

Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses

Samyang 8mm F3.5 = RM10xx
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx
Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM6xx
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx

E-mount Lenses For Alpha NEX Cameras

Sigma 19mm F2.8 EX DN = RM7xx
Sigma 30mm F2.8 EX DN = RM7xx
Sony E 30mm F3.5 Macro = RM7xx
Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx
Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS = RM21xx
Sony E Carl Zeiss 16-70mm F4 ZA = RM31xx NEW
Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS = RM8xx

New Full-Frame Lenses

Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA = RM38xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx
Samyang 35mm F1.4 = RM15xx
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 50mm F1.4 ZA SSM = RM42xx NEW
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM = RM8xx
Samyang 85mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony LA-EA1 lens adapter = RM5xx
Sony LA-EA2 lens adapter = RM9xx
Sony VCL-ECF1 fisheye adapter = RM3xx

This post has been edited by albnok: Jul 23 2014, 04:17 PM
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:47 PM

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post Jul 18 2014, 03:49 PM

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A700: user posted image
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A850: user posted image
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Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx

Now this lens promo at Sony RM879
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post Jul 18 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:12 PM)
Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx

Now this lens promo at Sony RM879
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got promo for 20mm and 35mm??
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post Jul 18 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jul 18 2014, 04:14 PM)
got promo for 20mm and 35mm??
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nope...too bad, I also looking for 35mm


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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:21 PM)
nope...too bad, I also looking for 35mm
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wow 1670Z got promo as well~


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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jul 18 2014, 04:29 PM)
wow 1670Z got promo as well~
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Yup, buy no $ to buy cry.gif
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:29 PM)
Yup, buy no $ to buy  cry.gif
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arr.. was thinking of buying this or SEL24f18..

but thats next next month plan brows.gif
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post Jul 18 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:21 PM)
nope...too bad, I also looking for 35mm
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where to buy? SEL1670 price quite tempting
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:21 PM)
nope...too bad, I also looking for 35mm
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post Jul 19 2014, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:12 PM)
Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx

Now this lens promo at Sony RM879
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I want to put street prices that are consistent - if this promo is only for a short while or only in some shops then it defeats the purpose. The street price list is so people can ask around any shop with this number as a reference.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 19 2014, 12:52 AM)
I want to put street prices that are consistent - if this promo is only for a short while or only in some shops then it defeats the purpose. The street price list is so people can ask around any shop with this number as a reference.
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well said. most of the time promotion only last for certain of time
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hi wanna ask about memory cards here.
saw promo on Lazada for Sandisk Extreme series,

Sandisk Extreme 45mbps
Sandisk Extreme Plus 80 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i 95 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-ii 280mbps

i dont think we (i mostly) need the UHS-ii. but does our camera support this? (a77/a77mkii/a99/a7/a7r/a7s/etc)

currently im on those sd wifi card which is slow sweat.gif but useful.
may look into the Extreme Plus 80mbps or Extreme Pro 95mbps. but just to know comment from u ols as price diff is about rm40 (on promo now) notworthy.gif
i see many reviews on Extreme Pro UHS-i, but none on Extreme Plus.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jul 21 2014, 06:11 AM)
hi wanna ask about memory cards here.
saw promo on Lazada for Sandisk Extreme series,

Sandisk Extreme 45mbps
Sandisk Extreme Plus 80 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i 95 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-ii 280mbps

i dont think we (i mostly) need the UHS-ii. but does our camera support this? (a77/a77mkii/a99/a7/a7r/a7s/etc)

currently im on those sd wifi card which is slow  sweat.gif but useful.
may look into the Extreme Plus 80mbps or Extreme Pro 95mbps. but just to know comment from u ols as price diff is about rm40 (on promo now)  notworthy.gif
i see many reviews on Extreme Pro UHS-i, but none on Extreme Plus.
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if im not mistaken la the plus read is 80mbps,write 60mbps....for extreme pro read & write is 95mbps...for me i'll go for the faster write speed...
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jul 21 2014, 06:11 AM)
hi wanna ask about memory cards here.
saw promo on Lazada for Sandisk Extreme series,

Sandisk Extreme 45mbps
Sandisk Extreme Plus 80 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i 95 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-ii 280mbps

i dont think we (i mostly) need the UHS-ii. but does our camera support this? (a77/a77mkii/a99/a7/a7r/a7s/etc)

currently im on those sd wifi card which is slow  sweat.gif but useful.
may look into the Extreme Plus 80mbps or Extreme Pro 95mbps. but just to know comment from u ols as price diff is about rm40 (on promo now)  notworthy.gif
i see many reviews on Extreme Pro UHS-i, but none on Extreme Plus.
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Sandisk doesn't seem to pimp their UHS-II cares for the A77II, A99 or A7s:

http://pct1.sandisk.com/Default.aspx#

It was last mentioned that the Fujifilm X-T1 is the first compatible camera. As for the A7s:

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When recording XAVC S format movies
Use the following memory cards:
– SDXC memory card (64 GB or more and Class 10 or faster)
– SDXC memory card (64 GB or more and UHS-I-compatible)
– Memory Stick XC-HG Duo media


(Page 53, https://docs.sony.com/release/ILCE7S.pdf)

Sounds like the best bet is the Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 95MB/s read, 90MB/s write - as we've tested at TTs, it has a definite speed boost compared to the 45MB/s read, 45MB/s write one.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jul 21 2014, 06:11 AM)
hi wanna ask about memory cards here.
saw promo on Lazada for Sandisk Extreme series,

Sandisk Extreme 45mbps
Sandisk Extreme Plus 80 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i 95 mbps
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-ii 280mbps

i dont think we (i mostly) need the UHS-ii. but does our camera support this? (a77/a77mkii/a99/a7/a7r/a7s/etc)

currently im on those sd wifi card which is slow  sweat.gif but useful.
may look into the Extreme Plus 80mbps or Extreme Pro 95mbps. but just to know comment from u ols as price diff is about rm40 (on promo now)  notworthy.gif
i see many reviews on Extreme Pro UHS-i, but none on Extreme Plus.
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How much are they selling them?
I usually just buy my stuff at sg.
I bought 2 extreme pro 32gb at simlim around SGD8x / each.
I also bought 2 ori NP-FM500H batteries at promo price in funan (4x sgd each) the promo price was their mistake though, didn't realise it till I inspect the packaging in the taxi.
Even so, the original price is still cheaper than prices down here in msia.
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QUOTE(hazril @ Jul 21 2014, 11:07 AM)
if im not mistaken la the plus read is 80mbps,write 60mbps....for extreme pro read & write is 95mbps...for me i'll go for the faster write speed...
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noted tq abam whistling.gif

QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 21 2014, 02:43 PM)
Sounds like the best bet is the Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-I 95MB/s read, 90MB/s write - as we've tested at TTs, it has a definite speed boost compared to the 45MB/s read, 45MB/s write one.
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I see great reviews for the Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i too.
seems to be best choice for now nod.gif

also if i put both card let say faster 95mb/s card in slot 1 and the toshiba flashair class 10 (30mb/s maybe) in slot 2 .
will it be capped to the slow one ?

QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Jul 21 2014, 03:00 PM)
How much are they selling them?
I usually just buy my stuff at sg.
I bought 2 extreme pro 32gb at simlim around SGD8x / each.
I also bought 2 ori NP-FM500H batteries at promo price in funan (4x sgd each) the promo price was their mistake though, didn't realise it till I inspect the packaging in the taxi.
Even so, the original price is still cheaper than prices down here in msia.
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Yes true sg is alot cheaper.
but at lazada seems having promo now http://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=sandis...treme+sdhc+32gb

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UHS-ii are designed for 4k video, min write rate of 220mb/s for 60p
in other words, those UHS 1, 95mb/s will stop instantly when trying to record 4k.

so NO, as long as your camera doesnt write 4k video into card, it will Not support the full speed.

albnok if i recall the new panasonic supports it too


Sandisk Extreme 45mbps
Sandisk Extreme Plus 80 mbps (80 read, 60 write like hazril said)
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i 95 mbps

as long as you arent crazy about bursting non stop 8-11fps for 5 sec, the extreme plus is best bang for buck now.

mastering: if u set write to both card, yes, the bottleneck will be the slow card. but u always have a buffer, so even during writing, there is always enough buffer for a few more shots (not burst thou)

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jul 21 2014, 08:27 PM)
noted tq abam  whistling.gif
I see great reviews for the Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i too.
seems to be best choice for now  nod.gif

also if i put both card let say faster 95mb/s card in slot 1 and the toshiba flashair class 10 (30mb/s maybe) in slot 2 .
will it be capped to the slow one ?
Yes true sg is alot cheaper.
but at lazada seems having promo now http://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=sandis...treme+sdhc+32gb
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You'd have to test this, as I only have a 16GB and 32GB 95MB/s read, 90MB/s write one; both are in my A99.
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edpaul: Although I have the 95MB/s read/90MB/s write card, the A99 can get slow in a low burst (3FPS) sequence. So any improvement at all is welcome!

This post has been edited by albnok: Jul 21 2014, 09:15 PM
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Only using SanDisk's 30mb/s SDHC, wondering how will be be on faster cards.

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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 21 2014, 09:42 PM)
Only using SanDisk's 30mb/s SDHC, wondering how will be be on faster cards.

Below is Taipei 101
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wow! what a dynamic feel rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 21 2014, 09:03 PM)
UHS-ii are designed for 4k video, min write rate of 220mb/s for 60p
in other words, those UHS 1, 95mb/s will stop instantly when trying to record 4k.

so NO, as long as your camera doesnt write 4k video into card, it will Not support the full speed.

albnok if i recall the new panasonic supports it too
Sandisk Extreme 45mbps
Sandisk Extreme Plus 80 mbps (80 read, 60 write like hazril said)
Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS-i 95 mbps

as long as you arent crazy about bursting non stop 8-11fps for 5 sec, the extreme plus is best bang for buck now.

mastering: if u set write to both card, yes, the bottleneck will be the slow card. but u always have a buffer, so even during writing, there is always enough buffer for a few more shots (not burst thou)

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i see.
i was thinking to set recording mode to Sort (JPG/RAW), jpeg on wifi card & raw on speedier card.
maybe need to buy & test laugh.gif

QUOTE(albnok @ Jul 21 2014, 09:14 PM)
You'd have to test this, as I only have a 16GB and 32GB 95MB/s read, 90MB/s write one; both are in my A99.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jul 21 2014, 08:27 PM)
Yes true sg is alot cheaper.
but at lazada seems having promo now http://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=sandis...treme+sdhc+32gb
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Why their price so confusing one.
The 32gb extreme pro has 3 prices.
270 (no discount)
239.99 (discounted to 195)
679 (discounted to 194)

I'm suspicious.
I prefer to buy a product COD and get the item + receipt and do a benchmark once I get home.

But that's just me.
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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Jul 21 2014, 11:37 PM)
Why their price so confusing one.
The 32gb extreme pro has 3 prices.
270 (no discount)
239.99 (discounted to 195)
679 (discounted to 194)

I'm suspicious.
I prefer to buy a product COD and get the item + receipt and do a benchmark once I get home.

But that's just me.
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lazada is just the website.
price depends on seller. might be 3 different seller.
So far i bought thru lazada a lot, and arrives to my doorstep smile.gif
only that the shipping company is slow sometimes.


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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Jul 21 2014, 11:37 PM)
Why their price so confusing one.
The 32gb extreme pro has 3 prices.
270 (no discount)
239.99 (discounted to 195)
679 (discounted to 194)

I'm suspicious.
I prefer to buy a product COD and get the item + receipt and do a benchmark once I get home.

But that's just me.
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just like mudah.my , a way for let ppl or company place sales ads. that's y sometimes same item but price is different
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Jul 22 2014, 12:29 AM)
lazada is just the website.
price depends on seller. might be 3 different seller.
So far i bought thru lazada a lot, and arrives to my doorstep smile.gif
only that the shipping company is slow sometimes.
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 22 2014, 01:43 AM)
just like mudah.my , a way for let ppl or company place sales ads. that's y sometimes same item but price is different
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I see, I've never bought anything from that site before.
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edpaul: Although I have the 95MB/s read/90MB/s write card, the A99 can get slow in a low burst (3FPS) sequence. So any improvement at all is welcome!
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true enough... really need to try it out...
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Picture spam again, critiques always welcomed.

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Beside Dust spot on top left hand side, pictures looks vignetting, any filter use?
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Beside Dust spot on top left hand side, pictures looks vignetting, any filter use?
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Picture spam again, critiques always welcomed.

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i think its a little too far... the subject doesnt pop.



my 2 cent, as long as you are not doing large prints, daytime photo you dont need to go F8... F5.6 will give you a general sharp photo for landscape due to focus on infinity give you large DOF, helps avoiding the dust spots blink.gif , then go home, do your general postprocess, resize and sharpen it. the F8 sharpness wont make any diff here.

before someone try to correct me.... you will need really large DOF when u tried to snap something sharp from 1 meter in front of you to infinity, then only use F8 and above.

and for night landscape/long exposure, F8 is preferable. smile.gif
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 22 2014, 09:21 PM)
i think its a little too far... the subject doesnt pop.
my 2 cent, as long as you are not doing large prints, daytime photo you dont need to go F8...  F5.6 will give you a general sharp photo for landscape due to focus on infinity give you large DOF, helps avoiding the dust spots  blink.gif , then go home, do your general postprocess, resize and sharpen it. the F8 sharpness wont make any diff here.

before someone try to correct me.... you will need really large DOF when u tried to snap something sharp from 1 meter in front of you to infinity, then only use F8 and above.

and for night landscape/long exposure, F8 is preferable. smile.gif
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Much enlightening, will keep the framing advice in mind.
Was thinking smaller aperture would help in getting the kitlens' sweet spot, made the pesky dust spot more apparent it seems :v
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 18 2014, 04:12 PM)
Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx

Now this lens promo at Sony RM879
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mind to share the link??
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Much enlightening, will keep the framing advice in mind.
Was thinking smaller aperture would help in getting the kitlens' sweet spot, made the pesky dust spot more apparent it seems :v
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better get fast if u have no way to get better price in sony store or center. it's limited time promotion
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great bokeh!
but object a bit dark, dint 'pop up' smile.gif
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Dont know if I could comment on it, correct me if I said wrongly:
Face appears a bit oily?
Complexion tone looks dull :v
Posture looks interesting, heard this line somewhere before: "Everything that can bend, bend it."


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Brighter better? Coz I was thinking not over power the light to make it feel too much of strobist feel... Thinking more natural ambient feel. Thinking to make the skin more warm thou...

The oily face coz it's a hot night... We all sweating hahaha... I will smoothen face more... Thanks.
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Welcome E-mount users! I've changed the topic description also, as:

- The Alpha logo was no longer orange (or specifically, cinnabar) since the Alpha NEX-3/5 was introduced
- FE is considered E-mount; full-frame E-mount lenses are called SEL and not SFEL (even worse, Zeiss E-mount lenses are still wrongly called ZA)
- we don't call it A-mount and A-mount DT, just A-mount to cover full-frame and APS-C

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nope...too bad, I also looking for 35mm
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Hi, is it over? Can please let me know where to get this promotion? I don't see on Sony Malaysia's website.

Thanks.


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Exciting times ahead! Looks like a new FF camera from
Sony is coming in the size and shape as the A5000/A6000 camera
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Exciting times ahead! Looks like a new FF camera from
Sony is coming in the size and shape as the A5000/A6000 camera
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Finger crossed

FF + nex size

But good for prime lens only? With the zoom lens its gonna look huge
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Just when I'm warming up to the A7 hump......
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got issue with lazada when ordering Sandisk Extreme Pro. twice
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how much total?
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RM152 free shipping 1 day sampai biggrin.gif
the Extreme Pro is rm195, but tried 2x transaction failed dunno why .
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got issue with lazada when ordering Sandisk Extreme Pro. twice
bought this instead. flex.gif
next week raya baru test laugh.gif

warning image too big,
imgur didnt resize it  doh.gif

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Mannn i bought this last Friday but till now no update no nothing.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif cry.gif cry.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Hi, is it over? Can please let me know where to get this promotion? I don't see on Sony Malaysia's website.

Thanks.
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i believe its over..... coz i miss that chance as well.

or maybe not... blush.gif
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 23 2014, 11:39 PM)
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i almost buy an A7+35mm f2.8 last week as well laugh.gif
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like i said, im kinda warming up to the looks of the A7 and kinda convince myself I dont want the Nex body....and now this.... tongue.gif

if it has the speed of the A6000, I really dont care what body shape
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 24 2014, 11:03 AM)
like i said, im kinda warming up to the looks of the A7 and kinda convince myself I dont want the Nex body....and now this.... tongue.gif

if it has the speed of the A6000, I really dont care what body shape
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if it got speed of A6000..JUST TAKE MY MONEY! And many ppl money too!
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rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

thats the only feature i am waiting for. but im afraid we will lose the EVF

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rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif

thats the only feature i am waiting for. but im afraid we will lose the EVF
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it might end up like

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i believe its over..... coz i miss that chance as well.

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Just don't see (the promotion) on Sony's website.
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QUOTE(decoder @ Jul 24 2014, 11:59 AM)
Just don't see (the promotion) on Sony's website.
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Its still on...
https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.as...-mount:sel50f18
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Thanks bro. Can please send the link for the camera promotion if there are? (Interested in A6000 and A7)

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Arr installment only for Maybank credit card~

Arrrr vmad.gif
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How did you get to that page? Click from where?
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How did you get to that page? Click from where?
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Beike Q-555 Professional Traveller's Tripod with Monopod good or not?
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if can afford pay bit more and go for 666 or 777. I wanted 666 but no stock so opted for 777. Was considering the C version but paying the extra $$ does not seem to make sense for the wow factor and slightly less resonance.. The locking mechanism is better and the ball head also bigger with separate friction control and horizontal (panorama ??) axis also lockable . It makes quite a big difference vs the 555 which is basic head - one lever lock all. I use to have the previous version of 555 with twist lock leg. OK as is but after using the 777, it makes a big difference. The lens I mount is +2 kg, 400 mm Novoflex T and the setting time is significant. Older tripod need 10 sec to settle.. now under 2 sec.

I also note the 777 legs can be complete strip apart for cleaning... more so when you take it to wet or sea side.

Recommend you to pay more now than end up getting an upgrade later and spend the extra $$ like me.




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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-first-c...market-in-2015/

2015.. save money now

or the compact FF hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Jul 24 2014, 07:19 PM)
if can afford pay bit more and go for 666 or 777.  I wanted 666 but no stock so opted for 777. Was considering the C version but paying the extra $$ does not seem to make sense for the  wow factor and slightly less resonance.. The locking mechanism is better and the ball head also bigger with separate friction control and horizontal (panorama ??) axis also lockable . It makes quite a big difference vs the 555 which is basic head - one lever lock all.   I use to have the previous version of 555 with twist lock leg.  OK as is but after using the 777, it makes a big difference.  The lens I mount is +2 kg, 400 mm  Novoflex T and the setting time is significant.  Older tripod need 10 sec to settle.. now under 2 sec. 

I also note the 777 legs can be complete strip apart for cleaning... more so when you take it to wet or sea side. 

Recommend you to pay more now than end up getting an upgrade later and spend the extra $$ like me.
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ok noted nod.gif

here got stock but not sure the price reasonable or not la

http://www.gstrapinuse.com/index.php?main_...facturers_id=44

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ok noted nod.gif

here got stock but not sure the price reasonable or not la

http://www.gstrapinuse.com/index.php?main_...facturers_id=44
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Got mine from GstrapInUse too.. dont think they have 666 in stock.. but .. ask ..


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A6000 / CZ - T mount 50mm Sonnar @ f5.6

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NEX5N / CZ- T mount 50mm Sonnar @ f5.6

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C&C welcome
A6000 / CZ - T mount 50mm Sonnar @ f5.6 

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NEX5N / CZ- T mount 50mm Sonnar @ f5.6

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50mm f1.8 only rm799..

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=217
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Promotion discount RM300? drool.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 25 2014, 10:42 AM)
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50mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8 better?
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35mm wider,50mm wider...depends on how & what your shooting style...
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 25 2014, 10:58 AM)
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Google 50mm vs 35mm and you found an answer for yourself just like me. lol laugh.gif
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Guys, I am a total noob on photography. Know nothing bout it, and my recent trip to bali, i took a point and shoot lumix along FT-4 along and found most pictures taken are bad, even my framing is bad. Was at uluwatu taking pics, then a couple from swiss asked my helped to take pics for them using their dslr (not sure what it is), and they told me to just click as everything is auto. Wow, the shot viewed from lcd was so good compared to mine. So I am convinced i need to buy a better cam and more importantly learn how to shoot.

Walked into sony store as it has promotion now, and was attracted to the a6000. Price with kit lens now is 2699. Was thinking if i should buy the package with SEL50F18 where it's RM 3200. I understand that is a prime lens right, without zoom. Should be easier for a novice like me, one less function bout camera for me to worry about. This camera will likely be use for travelling, taking pictures of ppl + scenery in it. Do let me know what lens combo will suit me most.

Also is sony centre running the best promo or outside standalone camera shop has better offer?
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 25 2014, 10:58 AM)
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35mm is ok-tight for me.. 50mm not for my style..

normal view go for 35mm (50mm equivalent)..
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
Guys, I am a total noob on photography.  Know nothing bout it, and my recent trip to bali, i took a point and shoot lumix along FT-4 along and found most pictures taken are bad, even my framing is bad.  Was at uluwatu taking pics, then a couple from swiss asked my helped to take pics for them using their dslr (not sure what it is), and they told me to just click as everything is auto.  Wow, the shot viewed from lcd was so good compared to mine.  So I am convinced i need to buy a better cam and more importantly learn how to shoot.

Walked into sony store as it has promotion now, and was attracted to the a6000.  Price with kit lens now is 2699.  Was thinking if i should buy the package with SEL50F18 where it's RM 3200.  I understand that is a prime lens right, without zoom.  Should be easier for a novice like me, one less function bout camera for me to worry about.  This camera will likely be use for travelling, taking pictures of ppl + scenery in it.  Do let me know what lens combo will suit me most.

Also is sony centre running the best promo or outside standalone camera shop has better offer?
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what i suggest is buy with 2699 first. reason: you still duno what u need from the camera. by using kit lens alone, u will know what is the limitation of the lens, so that when u going to buy a new lens, u will focus on these features.
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- need a object to pop-up, more blurry background, get a smaller aperture
- need to shoot something from far, get zoom lens
- need to see everything in 1 picture or landscape, go for wide lens

most of the people buy camera for portrait and landscape, but how desire they are? what i trying to say is, some people think that F2.8 is enough for portrait, but for other people, they need at least F1.4 to get the better bokeh.

there is no best lens in this world, find the one which suit u the most icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ Jul 25 2014, 02:55 PM)
what i suggest is buy with 2699 first. reason: you still duno what u need from the camera. by using kit lens alone, u will know what is the limitation of the lens, so that when u going to buy a new lens, u will focus on these features.
eg.
- need a object to pop-up, more blurry background, get a smaller aperture
- need to shoot something from far, get zoom lens
- need to see everything in 1 picture or landscape, go for wide lens

most of the people buy camera for portrait and landscape, but how desire they are? what i trying to say is, some people think that F2.8 is enough for portrait, but for other people, they need at least F1.4 to get the better bokeh.

there is no best lens in this world, find the one which suit u the most  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the tips. Yeah, actually after reading through what u say, paying RM 300 for the kit lens seems like good value to start off. But since my purpose is to use camera to shoot during travel/holidays, bokeh shot won't be used heavily. WIll like to capture pic of ppl with the background, if background becomes blur, kinda defeat the purpose of the holiday shot. what particular type of lens/settings is good for trying to take pic of two person standing by the beach, or near a cliff that can see canyon below, or where the person back ground is a mountain? or ppl standing in front of a building/door arch/statue.....You know, those typical travel shots.


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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 25 2014, 03:04 PM)
Thanks for the tips.  Yeah, actually after reading through what u say, paying RM 300 for the kit lens seems like good value to start off.  But since my purpose is to use camera to shoot during travel/holidays, bokeh shot won't be used heavily.  WIll like to capture pic of ppl with the background, if background becomes blur, kinda defeat the purpose of the holiday shot.  what particular type of lens/settings is good for trying to take pic of two person standing by the beach, or near a cliff that can see canyon below, or where the person back ground is a mountain?  or ppl standing in front of a building/door arch/statue.....You know, those typical travel shots.
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i can't help u with settings, it's really depends on the amount of light and where u stand.

me personally prefer wider lens, such as 10-18mm, it's work great on taking landscape and outdoor portrait
last time when i owned a DSLR, my 10-22mm stick with the body 90% of the time, it works just great during travelling, not to mention selfie too

sometime the buildings are so huge/tall, this is when wide lens took their advantage icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Jul 25 2014, 10:58 AM)
50mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8 better?
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there's no exact answer. both output quite awesome. if u think 50mm too narrow for u, go for 35mm smile.gif
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need suggestion about uv filter for sel 50mm..
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35mm take wider photo, good for group or you want to have more ppl in the photo, or items.

50mm good for 1 person or less items

am i wrong? :/ i just read it here

http://www.paulcoatesphoto.com/2013/06/whi...mm-or-50mm.html


or some old comparison

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3357...m-post-50539967
http://pinoytekkie.blogspot.com/2012/12/so...s-sel35f18.html


i going to get the 35mm btw...

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btw, wanna check... are the discounted price items remain as discounted if walk in to sony centers?
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need suggestion about uv filter for sel 50mm..
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at least Hoya HMC UV filter smile.gif
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QUOTE(weretiger @ Jul 25 2014, 09:17 PM)
35mm take wider photo, good for group or you want to have more ppl in the photo, or items.

50mm good for 1 person or less items

am i wrong? :/ i just read it here

http://www.paulcoatesphoto.com/2013/06/whi...mm-or-50mm.html
or some old comparison

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3357...m-post-50539967
http://pinoytekkie.blogspot.com/2012/12/so...s-sel35f18.html
i going to get the 35mm btw...

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about 35mm, not exactly. because sel35f18 field of view is 52.5mm equivalent with full frame camera. thus DOF still shallow if the object still a bit closer
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Jul 25 2014, 10:06 PM)
about 35mm, not exactly. because sel35f18 field of view is 52.5mm equivalent with full frame camera. thus DOF still shallow if the object still a bit closer
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Dof and fov does not correlate that way. Though by general rule, any lens will have a shallower dof if subject is moved closer to camera.
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how much does a sel35f1.8 cost?
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how much does a sel35f1.8 cost?
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Sony is now offering RM1199 (RM300 discount).. you can refer here: https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=217

last time I bought RM1200+ at zaloon..
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QUOTE(obiey @ Jul 26 2014, 09:18 AM)
Sony is now offering RM1199 (RM300 discount)..  you can refer here: https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=217

last time I bought RM1200+ at zaloon..
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Dof and fov does not correlate that way. Though by general rule, any lens will have a shallower dof if subject is moved closer to camera.
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sry, i not so good in describe this. maybe u can help me tell our friend the difference in between 35mm and 50mm? tongue.gif
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There's what I think:
Field of View is how wide you'll able to see, in relation to angle.
Depth of Field is the focus pane/thickness, relates to distance of subject.

Or you can just look through the lens of these 2.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 26 2014, 09:44 AM)
oooo. so both A mount & E mount now combined thumbup.gif
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OH, for those who doesnt know, the Nex thread and Alpha Thread has merged into one big family now. (i know most of us open 2 tab of the seperate threads, now we can view them as one.) and since the NEX name as been removed from the Sony Alpha naming scheme and put the mirrorless under Alpha, one big family. so let make this thread more active~ smile.gif

QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 26 2014, 10:33 AM)
There's what I think:
Field of View is how wide you'll able to see, in relation to angle.
Depth of Field is the focus pane/thickness, relates to distance of subject.

Or you can just look through the lens of these 2.
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generally thats correct~

there is one more called angle of view.

i know how to works but i dont know how to explain it, but i try

35mm on APSC and 35mm on FF has the SAME angle of view but a diff Field of view
35mm on APSC and 52.5mm on FF has the SAME Field of View, but a diff angle of view.


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just order one biggrin.gif
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get ur lenses ady? the promo only last until end of this month
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need suggestion about uv filter for sel 50mm..
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Hoya HMC, Zeiss, B+W?
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 27 2014, 12:10 AM)
get ur lenses ady? the promo only last until end of this month
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not yet bro...mybe next week..still pending for postage..
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 26 2014, 10:19 PM)

35mm on APSC and 35mm on FF has the SAME angle of view but a diff Field of view
35mm on APSC and 52.5mm on FF has the SAME Field of View, but a diff angle of view.
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Hmm... I think article here got show how the field of view and angle differs in aps-c and FF, note the 15mm on FF and 12mm on aps-c: (you can ignore the rest of the review on lens)
http://www.lenstip.com/311.1-Lens_review-C...isheye_USM.html

and extra for those who might interested to read:
http://photographylife.com/equivalent-foca...d-field-of-view
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLet...les-of-View.jsp


Anyway, today is my 1 year anniversary with my NEX-6 and started shooting photos ever since.

Put up my latest photo here and celebrate,
shot with NEX-6 & Vivitar 135mm f/2.8

user posted imageDSC00422 by bdrc, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC00452 by bdrc, on Flickr


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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 27 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hmm... I think article here got show how the field of view and angle differs in aps-c and FF, note the 15mm on FF and 12mm on aps-c: (you can ignore the rest of the review on lens)
http://www.lenstip.com/311.1-Lens_review-C...isheye_USM.html

and extra for those who might interested to read:
http://photographylife.com/equivalent-foca...d-field-of-view
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLet...les-of-View.jsp
Anyway, today is my 1 year anniversary with my NEX-6 and started shooting photos ever since.

Put up my latest photo here and celebrate,
shot with NEX-6 & Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 

user posted imageDSC00422 by bdrc, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC00452 by bdrc, on Flickr
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wahhh the bokeh rclxub.gif time to get 135mm Zeiss icon_idea.gif
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this time sony fair at low yat plaza not as hot as last year. last year a lot of special promo, like A77 FOC VG, NEX-5R FOC EVF...
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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 27 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hmm... I think article here got show how the field of view and angle differs in aps-c and FF, note the 15mm on FF and 12mm on aps-c: (you can ignore the rest of the review on lens)
http://www.lenstip.com/311.1-Lens_review-C...isheye_USM.html

and extra for those who might interested to read:
http://photographylife.com/equivalent-foca...d-field-of-view
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLet...les-of-View.jsp
Anyway, today is my 1 year anniversary with my NEX-6 and started shooting photos ever since.

Put up my latest photo here and celebrate,
shot with NEX-6 & Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 

user posted imageDSC00422 by bdrc, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC00452 by bdrc, on Flickr
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Nice photos but the bokeh kinda distracting icon_rolleyes.gif
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I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat. Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem.

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card. Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today. Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty. That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k. But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this. However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter. I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18. Each lens filter cost RM100. So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm). Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery. 2 complaints:

1. Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera? Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2. How do I know when the battery is fully charged? I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body. It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow. Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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Firstly there is no more first charge logic. Salesman who still asks you to do so needs to be educated more. Yellow light will go off once fully charged.
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL50F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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about filter, u need to know which level/grade u purchase. for what i know, steinzeiser is common brand, and got few types of UV filter, e.g. UV, MC UV, PRO1 MC, XS-PRO1 (correct me if i were wrong...). entry level UV filter around 50-80. but if even u know they sell it overprice, who knows? company want earn money

since 2012, sony camera never bundled with external charger. i'm always advice ppl go for external charger (original sony charger pricing about RM189). about USB charging, depends how u going to charge ur camera. if attach to the plug, usually 3 hours will full. if u charge with pc, will take longer time for full charge
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Sony SLT-A99V
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Sony SLT-A99V
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Sony SLT-A99V
17-35mm F2.8-4
ƒ/8.0  17.0 mm 1/250  100
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
Guys, I am a total noob on photography.  Know nothing bout it, and my recent trip to bali, i took a point and shoot lumix along FT-4 along and found most pictures taken are bad, even my framing is bad.  Was at uluwatu taking pics, then a couple from swiss asked my helped to take pics for them using their dslr (not sure what it is), and they told me to just click as everything is auto.  Wow, the shot viewed from lcd was so good compared to mine.  So I am convinced i need to buy a better cam and more importantly learn how to shoot.

Walked into sony store as it has promotion now, and was attracted to the a6000.  Price with kit lens now is 2699.  Was thinking if i should buy the package with SEL50F18 where it's RM 3200.  I understand that is a prime lens right, without zoom.  Should be easier for a novice like me, one less function bout camera for me to worry about.   This camera will likely be use for travelling, taking pictures of ppl + scenery in it.  Do let me know what lens combo will suit me most.

Also is sony centre running the best promo or outside standalone camera shop has better offer?
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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just my opinion. if u prefer zoom lenses, A6000 + SEL18105G very suitable for ur style. furthermore, during fair, even my friend had bought these combo, included class10 16GB, screen protector, body case, extra battery, external charger, and Hoya Pro1D UV filter, total price around RM3800. as fair promises, the camera body entitled 3 years warranty by Sony Malaysia, meanwhile the lens entitled 12+3 months warranty. the FOC pouch looks just like a token, haha

anyway, if u happy with kit lens and the prime lens, don't need to care too much

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I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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1. Sony is aiming to go really low for their camera price. hence they remove the unnecessary component like a external charger. (less thing to bring on traveling) a simple USB outlet and cable will do. it also will charge when you doing file transfer. the plus size, instead of spending 299rrp for a exra battery that's only 900mAh, you can easily buy a Mi 10k powerbank for less then 50myr and u still can charge it anytime anywhere.

2. on the camera it will write 100% then u know is fully charged.
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 28 2014, 03:43 AM)
just my opinion. if u prefer zoom lenses, A6000 + SEL18105G very suitable for ur style. furthermore, during fair, even my friend had bought these combo, included class10 16GB, screen protector, body case, extra battery, external charger, and Hoya Pro1D UV filter, total price around RM3800. as fair promises, the camera body entitled 3 years warranty by Sony Malaysia, meanwhile the lens entitled 12+3 months warranty. the FOC pouch looks just like a token, haha

anyway, if u happy with kit lens and the prime lens, don't need to care too much
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The fair doesn't give 3 years warranty for both body and lens? I was told by the fair person it gives 3 years warranty for both, but I wasn't sure to believe her or not. When I heard free warranty 1+2 years, I almost felt like buying A6000 + SEL1670Z but decided i should not spend that much. The idea of additional warranty for the expensive lens seems worth it.

I agree, the FOC pouch seems like a token, totally no use at all. The fair value is in the extra battery, the body case and the extra 2 years warranty.
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The fair doesn't give 3 years warranty for both body and lens?  I was told by the fair person it gives 3 years warranty for both, but I wasn't sure to believe her or not.  When I heard free warranty 1+2 years, I almost felt like buying A6000 + SEL1670Z but decided i should not spend that much.  The idea of additional warranty for the expensive lens seems worth it.

I agree, the FOC pouch seems like a token, totally no use at all.  The fair value is in the extra battery, the body case and the extra 2 years warranty.
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not surprised. because the SEL18105G is not kit lens for A6000, thus only body entitled extended warranty. however, there got special promotion for bundled package for SEL18105G G lenses, too. imagine, A6000 (RM2399) + SEL18105G (RM1999), total RM4398 RRP; during sony fair, promo around RM3800 with damn a lot of freebies, with additional charger, why not? about same as u purchase the A6000 with kit lens + prime lens
well, for me, extra battery isn't value much at all. for new user, if u have 2 unit or even more batteries, but u only can charge battery via USB either connecting camera with power cord or computer, u had to charge and charge the battery without using the camera. just example, when u travelling, u realized of 1 of battery had exhausted, and that time u need taking photographs, not possible leave the camera for charging the battery inside hotel without take it out for taking photo, as there another additional battery still capable for take photographs, right?

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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 28 2014, 11:36 AM)
not surprised. because the SEL18105G is not kit lens for A6000, thus only body entitled extended warranty. however, there got special promotion for bundled package for SEL18105G G lenses, too. imagine, A6000 (RM2399) + SEL18105G (RM1999), total RM4398 RRP; during sony fair, promo around RM3800 with damn a lot of freebies, with additional charger, why not? about same as u purchase the A6000 with kit lens + prime lens
well, for me, extra battery isn't value much at all. for new user, if u have 2 unit or even more batteries, but u only can charge battery via USB either connecting camera with power cord or computer, u had to charge and charge the battery without using the camera. just example, when u travelling, u realized of 1 of battery had exhausted, and that time u need taking photographs, not possible leave the camera for charging the battery inside hotel without take it out for taking photo, as there another additional battery still capable for take photographs, right?
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If only you posted this earlier before my purchase, i would have gone for it. Your friend's package of RM3800 is damn good deal especially it has the free external battery charger. How much does that cost?

I agree with you extra battery has no value if one does not have the external battery charger, having to connect cable to camera to charge camera is just plain stupid.
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Selamat Hari Raya and Happy Holiday to all!

Last night on Raya eve went to Jalan TAR for night street photography. First time doing it and it was challenging, feel free to comments rclxms.gif All using A6000 and SEL18105G except last one using SEL1018

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If only you posted this earlier before my purchase, i would have gone for it.  Your friend's package of RM3800 is damn good deal especially it has the free external battery charger.  How much does that cost?

I agree with you extra battery has no value if one does not have the external battery charger, having to connect cable to camera to charge camera is just plain stupid.
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Hi guys, it's been awhile since i visit this thread. Haha.

Just wanna ask, for mix cinematography + photography. Which one do you guys recommend getting? A77 or A7?
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Hi guys, it's been awhile since i visit this thread. Haha.

Just wanna ask, for mix cinematography + photography. Which one do you guys recommend getting? A77 or A7?
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A7S rclxms.gif its lowlight for video gonna amaze you.

if only two option above. I might prefer a77.. I really miss that IS when recording video cry.gif (unless using stabilizer rig)
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QUOTE(Ksano @ Jul 28 2014, 04:02 PM)
A7S  rclxms.gif  its lowlight for video gonna amaze you.

if only two option above. I might prefer a77..  I really miss that IS when recording video  cry.gif  (unless using stabilizer rig)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, A7S is not yet available in our shore right?

I'm still using my old A700 laugh.gif
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Correct me if I'm wrong, A7S is not yet available in our shore right?

I'm still using my old A700  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Jul 28 2014, 02:45 PM)
Hi guys, it's been awhile since i visit this thread. Haha.

Just wanna ask, for mix cinematography + photography. Which one do you guys recommend getting? A77 or A7?
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depend that you need a FF or APS-C will do. a mirrorless or A mount.

since you are using A700, u should have a couple of A lens, so stick with a77 II smile.gif
or if u plan to have a compact standby video ready camera, actually the A6000 fits your pocket and doesnt make a hole($) in da pocket too.
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Bought a Sony external battery charger from vincentlee90 for RM150. Now my extra free battery given from the Sony fair would be more useful.

Being a novice in photography, I am not sure if I should invest more and buy the SEL1670Z zeiss lens that is on sale now for RM 2600 or should i wait later when I have improved on my skills. Guys, say 1 year from now, is the price of that lens likely to be cheaper? Like electronic gadgets, note 3 price next year will be cheaper than this year?
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Lenses are very diff, they have shelf-life of 5years min, up to 15years.

unlike camera body or phones, which has 1 year, after a year u can see a 10% off the RRP. lens dont. infact, lens price goes up 3-5% every 2 years. and with malaysia 6% GST coming next year.... i highly doubt it will be cheaper then now...
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Bought a Sony external battery charger from vincentlee90 for RM150.  Now my extra free battery given from the Sony fair would be more useful.

Being a novice in photography, I am not sure if I should invest more and buy the SEL1670Z zeiss lens that is on sale now for RM 2600 or should i wait later when I have improved on my skills.  Guys, say 1 year from now, is the price of that lens likely to be cheaper?  Like electronic gadgets, note 3 price next year will be cheaper than this year?
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lenses price will never drop, unless it will being replaced by newer, better lenses. yet this kind of scenario very rare, especially pro grade lenses

i strongly suggest u go to get the SEL1670Z before end of this month. seriously. damn nice price. after end of this month, back to normal price, not worth without rebate. RM3299 kinda expensive for new user
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

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Over price filter, shops earn the most from accessories. Usually I dont buy accessories from them, instead I get it from lowyat seller.

http://www.steinzeiser.com/index.php?ws=ou...g=#openproducts

I think there is no international recognition on this brand, its a local company doing repackage on the filter. Lets wait for more comment.

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Interesting. Anywhere to get the square filters and the clip-holders for landscape purpose?

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Interesting. Anywhere to get the square filters and the clip-holders for landscape purpose?

Complementary photo, comments and critiques always wanted:
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Does anyone here have the Sigma 60mm F2.8 DN? How much did you buy it for?

Its sharpness is rated highly in Dxomark, so I'm thinking of getting it for taking product shots.
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Does anyone here have the Sigma 60mm F2.8 DN? How much did you buy it for?

Its sharpness is rated highly in Dxomark, so I'm thinking of getting it for taking product shots.
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What kind of product shots are you doing? generally you won't be shooting at wide open unless you plan to do creative shots and need good amounts of bokeh. otherwise with proper lighting you are probably gonna step down the aperture and everything will be sharp anyway.

the main question is, are you comfortable working with 60mm focal length?
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Guys.. sel1018 RM2500 good deal?? price from Penang BTW. Tried touit 12mm f2.8 and sel1018 in bangkok.. both are good but sel1018 got OSS since i always shoot during night/low light and without tripod.
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Steel wool photography, looks much interesting. Would like to join and try out too.

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you guys shoot in RAW format or JPEG?
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you guys shoot in RAW format or JPEG?
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I read many article about raw vs jpeg.. most of them shoot raw because they wanted to edit picture to make it perfect hmm.gif .. I don't edit picture and I got no idea how to use PS and Lightroom. Normally I shoot and transfer to computer, phone, cloud or upload to my instagram. Should I learn raw and PS/LR?
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u got free time?
u want nice pic?

if yes, then learn.. if no, then stick with jpeg.

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I read many article about raw vs jpeg.. most of them shoot raw because they wanted to edit picture to make it perfect hmm.gif .. I don't edit picture and I got no idea how to use PS and Lightroom. Normally I shoot and transfer to computer, phone, cloud or upload to my instagram. Should I learn  raw and PS/LR?
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QUOTE(HaN18 @ Jul 31 2014, 11:33 AM)
rclxub.gif
I read many article about raw vs jpeg.. most of them shoot raw because they wanted to edit picture to make it perfect hmm.gif .. I don't edit picture and I got no idea how to use PS and Lightroom. Normally I shoot and transfer to computer, phone, cloud or upload to my instagram. Should I learn  raw and PS/LR?
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i choose the setting for both.. got the jpeg for lazy days and raw to edit in future~

LR is a must for me thou laugh.gif
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i choose the setting for both.. got the jpeg for lazy days and raw to edit in future~

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but i got 2x 16GB and one 32GB coming in~
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im using 32GB*2, only shoot in raw
here is the reason why we learn edit smile.gif

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QUOTE(HaN18 @ Jul 31 2014, 11:33 AM)
rclxub.gif
I read many article about raw vs jpeg.. most of them shoot raw because they wanted to edit picture to make it perfect hmm.gif .. I don't edit picture and I got no idea how to use PS and Lightroom. Normally I shoot and transfer to computer, phone, cloud or upload to my instagram. Should I learn  raw and PS/LR?
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I usually shoot in Jpeg, as it can apply in-camera effects and generally good enough without much post processing. Event if you wanted to process it, nothing much will be lost.

I will shoot raw when I know there is going to be heavy editing though, like milkyway and nightscapes, but not very often I use this setting.

Jpeg:

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I shoot in jpeg if light is good. Switch to raw when cloudy, low light or inner building.

I think raw is good for these who know ps but not sure any much different if light room :/
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im using 32GB*2, only shoot in raw
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I shoot RAW+JPEG - it's certainly faster to look for a file in my Windows Explorer by looking at JPEG thumbnails.

As for the question of storage space, a 16GB SD card will fit 500+ RAW+JPEG A99 (24 megapixel) pictures. What would you shoot that needs 300 pictures in between that and copying to a computer, besides event photography? (A 3-hour session usually ends up with around 200 pictures, that I end up culling to 50-75 pictures or so, and I might post 30.)
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you guys shoot in RAW format or JPEG?
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Raw+JPEG

32+32+32+16+16+8..
I think that's more than enough memory for a 7 day overseas trip if your finger is not trigger happy.
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Shot raw.

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Raw+JPEG

32+32+32+16+16+8..
I think that's more than enough memory for a 7 day overseas trip if your finger is not trigger happy.
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Here's a link to the DxO filmpack 3.
https://www.dxo.com/intl/sony?cmpid=currents
It's giving away free licence till 15th August.
All you need is an email.

I have a licence key a already but I haven't download the software yet.
Might do it in a few days.

Oh and one key will work on both windows and osx copies.

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Aug 1 2014, 10:36 AM)
Here's a link to the DxO filmpack 3.
It's giving away free licence till 15th August.
All you need is an email.

I have a licence key a already but I haven't download the software yet.
Might do it in a few days.

Oh and one key will work on both windows and osx copies.
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You mean, this link?
https://www.dxo.com/intl/sony
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You mean, this link?
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I got mine from popphoto in my google currents so I think the "currents" behind it is some sort of redirect.

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QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Aug 1 2014, 10:36 AM)
Here's a link to the DxO filmpack 3.
https://www.dxo.com/intl/sony?cmpid=currents
It's giving away free licence till 15th August.
All you need is an email.

I have a licence key a already but I haven't download the software yet.
Might do it in a few days.

Oh and one key will work on both windows and osx copies.
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hey guys.. kinda new here.. as got the a6000 over the raya holiday.. huhu..

only realize the 1670z promo today.. sad.gif which ended yesterday .. uwaaaa..
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hey guys.. kinda new here.. as got the a6000 over the raya holiday.. huhu..

only realize the 1670z promo today.. sad.gif  which ended yesterday .. uwaaaa..
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https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.as...-mount:sel50f18

this price oso not bad biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Aug 1 2014, 11:11 AM)
exactly.. the same price if i got it from ebay.. ill be a happy camp with sel50f18 and sel1670z.. huhu
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exactly.. the same price if i got it from ebay.. ill be a happy camp with sel50f18 and sel1670z.. huhu
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i tot the promo u mention is ard rm2700?
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i tot the promo u mention is ard rm2700?
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eh? still on? huhu.. doenst it ended already yesterday? bwahhaha.. paisey.. okey.. time to add to cart and check out.. bwahaha
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actually it have 2 link...1 promo link and 1 promo until 31/7... but have different price tag for 50mm 1.8.. one rm879..and rm799...

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=217

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.as...-mount:sel50f18

better hurry biggrin.gif
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Here's a link to the DxO filmpack 3.
https://www.dxo.com/intl/sony?cmpid=currents
It's giving away free licence till 15th August.
All you need is an email.

I have a licence key a already but I haven't download the software yet.
Might do it in a few days.

Oh and one key will work on both windows and osx copies.
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hey guys.. kinda new here.. as got the a6000 over the raya holiday.. huhu..

only realize the 1670z promo today.. sad.gif  which ended yesterday .. uwaaaa..
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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Aug 1 2014, 11:25 AM)
i tot the promo u mention is ard rm2700?
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QUOTE(haki @ Aug 1 2014, 04:41 PM)
actually it have 2 link...1 promo link and 1 promo until 31/7... but have different price tag for 50mm 1.8.. one rm879..and rm799...

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=217

https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.as...-mount:sel50f18

better hurry biggrin.gif
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well, the lenses promotion no longer valid, as the promotion only until 31st july 2014, which is yesterday. this morning i inquiry for price and they had mark up the price to usual price...
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QUOTE(ezyfoto19 @ Aug 1 2014, 08:55 PM)
well, the lenses promotion no longer valid, as the promotion only until 31st july 2014, which is yesterday. this morning i inquiry for price and they had mark up the price to usual price...
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u already checkout? and the price change??
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well, the lenses promotion no longer valid, as the promotion only until 31st july 2014, which is yesterday. this morning i inquiry for price and they had mark up the price to usual price...
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Promo valid while stock last? Not sure lol
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Promo valid while stock last? Not sure lol
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QUOTE(ezyfoto19 @ Aug 1 2014, 10:25 PM)
yup. back to RRP price and no more rebate promotion. i believe they never update the website even though the promotion ended
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i checked out sel50f18 promo rm799.. paid with maybank2u.. just this morning.. dunno whether they will send me the lens or ask me for more money.. huhu.. but all seems ok with me.. plus the delivery status is in progress when i checked just now.
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i checked out sel50f18 promo rm799.. paid with maybank2u.. just this morning.. dunno whether they will send me the lens or ask me for more money.. huhu.. but all seems ok with me.. plus the delivery status is in progress when i checked just now.
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hope they will give u exemption... i heard some ppl walk in to sony store & sony centre for try to get lenses with promo price but ended up they purchase lenses with RRP
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hopefully.. huhu.. need that lens for portraiture.. (what i do mostly)
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iso1600 not bad for a small camera... user posted imageHoliday by oldskoolstyla, on Flickr
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iso1600 not bad for a small camera... user posted imageHoliday by oldskoolstyla, on Flickr
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Gonna share my pic which I'm rather proud with the results of editing. Don't bother pixel peeping, cause it's obviously Photoshopped, and I'm still not very good at editing.

The individual photos aren't all that impressive, IQ wise (blurry motion, high ISO, amateur photographer), but her poses were so nice, I had to do something to make it all worthwhile!

Taken using an A7 + LA-EA4 + Minolta APO 100-300

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QUOTE(mikeis18 @ Aug 2 2014, 03:00 PM)
Gonna share my pic which I'm rather proud with the results of editing. Don't bother pixel peeping, cause it's obviously Photoshopped, and I'm still not very good at editing.

The individual photos aren't all that impressive, IQ wise (blurry motion, high ISO, amateur photographer), but her poses were so nice, I had to do something to make it all worthwhile!

Taken using an A7 + LA-EA4 + Minolta APO 100-300

Comments and criticism are welcome.

user posted imageCoco Tan by Mikhailwong, on Flickr
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I thought it was a 5 membered group dancing at 1st glance, that's before I noticed that they're the same face (unless they're quintuplets).

Good job!
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finding a external flash for my A6000, any recommend?
need something small and portable smile.gif
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finding a external flash for my A6000, any recommend?
need something small and portable smile.gif
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HLV-F43. very useful for A6000 smile.gif

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HLV-F43. very useful for A6000 smile.gif
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anyone tried YN560 II with A6000 before?
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NISSIN i40 not compatible with A6000?
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HVL-F43 looks bulky,  any smaller size say HVL-F20S? F20S is not compatible with A6000 right?

anyone tried YN560 II with A6000 before?
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The HVL-F20M, HVL-F43M and HVL-F60M are directly compatible with the A6000. Be sure to get the M and not the AM or S.
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ Aug 3 2014, 08:43 PM)
HVL-F43 looks bulky,  any smaller size say HVL-F20S? F20S is not compatible with A6000 right?

anyone tried YN560 II with A6000 before?
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F20S not compatible with A6000, as F20S compatible with NEX-3, 5 series which have smart accessory terminal

anyway, i'm using F43M thumbup.gif

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dont bother with nissin or YN. they arent design for sony Miso.. u will face more issue then solving it. after 2-3 month find out so many feature missing compare to the Sony flash, then struggle to sell it to buy sony flash... why the hassle? dont bother 3rd party, they are cheap for a reason... not full compatibles.
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dont bother with nissin or YN. they arent design for sony Miso.. u will face more issue then solving it. after 2-3 month find out so many feature missing compare to the Sony flash, then struggle to sell it to buy sony flash... why the hassle? dont bother 3rd party, they are cheap for a reason... not full compatibles.
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even those stated compatible with AM shoe?
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there is nissin or yn, or sunpak, or many other 3rd party. compatible or not, whatever they market... only 1 brand can be trusted, that is Metz (because metz prices nearly same as Sony own flash). other 3rd party no matter how much they market how good they are, they are still a 3rd grade system... they will never preform as good as the real one. Sony Flash is not expensive at all compare Canon, Nikon or Pentax's own flash, they all range 1.8k for the flagship...

anyway, primary workhorse flash always get Sony. 99% senior here will tell u, get Sony own flash. if 2nd,3rd slave unit, u can get those cheap rm200 flash just to fire them as slave.

but some other 3rd party owner will tell u otherwise, that 3rd party is as good la, this la, that la... better u go ask those who uses 3rd party then jump to sony flash, they will tell better story.
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i meet a nikon guy in a club, then he is using 3rd party flash, he saw me focus so easily at the club came over and ask me how to i focus, i told him the flash has AF illuminator. looking at his nissin flash, nikon i-ttl mount, has AF illuminator, but doesnt works.

so for sony compatible ah? i even highly doubt the compatible means "can mount and fire only" or full featured.
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thanks for all the suggestion smile.gif

HVL-F20M seems fit my requirement smile.gif it's small, easy to use with outstanding performance smile.gif
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If you want to buy budget flash, you can try 3rd party one like Viltrox brand (manual flash) .. Very cheap and very useful.. I buy it as 2nd flash for multiple wireless flash.. and it compatible with all camera brand such as nikkon canon and sony. Im using HVL-F43m as a main flash..



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Is it possible to do high speed flash sync with the A6000?
Or I need to had a set of high speed flash sync triggers?

Thank you.
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Yes, you can do normal HSS:

http://www.mhohner.de/sony-minolta/onebody/ilce-6000
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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 4 2014, 04:41 PM)
Thank you. notworthy.gif

Stated there wireless HSS was a NO.
So if I mounted a HSS capable radio flash trigger, they won't work? hmm.gif
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Thank you. notworthy.gif

Stated there wireless HSS was a NO.
So if I mounted a HSS capable radio flash trigger, they won't work? hmm.gif
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The site does not cover non-Sony flashes. You'd have to test this yourself though, but I would not expect anything from third-party triggers.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 4 2014, 05:16 PM)
The site does not cover non-Sony flashes. You'd have to test this yourself though, but I would not expect anything from third-party triggers.
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A6000 pop up flash doesnt support HSS.
A6000 pop up flash doesnt support WL HSS.

A6000 Mounted F43m and F60m Support HSS and WL HSS mode.

A6000 mounted F20m (no idea, didnt get to test it yet).
edit: A6000 mounted F20M doesnt support HSS. but still not sure about WL HSS. i think it doesnt either.


melvintcs: the F20M idea is to have a stronger 'popup' flash on standby, it cannot be used as a workhorse (mean for an event)... the battery eventually last for about/less 200 shots bounce at F5.6 (mean almost full power fired)

the F20M is like a standby flash for people that usually goes around flash-less... light traveling doesnt bring big flash and just need a flash in case flash is needed.

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 4 2014, 05:45 PM)
melvintcs: the F20M idea is to have a stronger 'popup' flash on standby, it cannot be used as a workhorse (mean for an event)... the battery eventually last for about/less 200 shots bounce at F5.6 (mean almost full power fired)

the F20M is like a standby flash for people that usually goes around flash-less... light traveling doesnt bring big flash and just need a flash in case flash is needed.
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Thanks for all the clarity, it helped me a lot thumbup.gif

"stronger 'popup' flash"
yes, that's all i need, i din't do photography for money, it's simply a hobby and capture those memories when hang out (especially indoor party) with friends.

price gap between F20M and F43M is too huge(rm499 vs rm1300?), that's why i dont consider it.

well, it's not urgent, i got times to do the survey and comparison within these two. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ Aug 4 2014, 08:21 PM)
Thanks for all the clarity, it helped me a lot  thumbup.gif

"stronger 'popup' flash"
yes, that's all i need, i din't do photography for money, it's simply a hobby and capture those memories when hang out (especially indoor party) with friends.

price gap between F20M and F43M is too huge(rm499 vs rm1300?), that's why i dont consider it.

well, it's not urgent, i got times to do the survey and comparison within these two.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ahhh sorry i didnt know the price diff that much, all this while i thought F20m was like 299 (i got mine at that price) and F43m at 999rrp and 750 street. F60m at 1499rrp and 1.3 street price (got mine at 1250) (i marked the street price up a little due to lack of stock)

and yes, for casual gathering, the F20M is the best tool u can get.

further info for you. the F20 uses triple A (AAA) batteries. they are a little pricey if rely on alkaline batt (non rechargeable)... if you think you would use it often, consider investing in a simple Sanyo Eneloop 2x AAA + charger set at around 80-100. (although i prefer Maha set, a FS401S(rm110) + 4x Imedion AAA (rm55))
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 4 2014, 08:42 PM)
ahhh sorry i didnt know the price diff that much, all this while i thought F20m was like 299 (i got mine at that price) and F43m at 999rrp and 750 street. F60m at 1499rrp and 1.3 street price (got mine at 1250) (i marked the street price up a little due to lack of stock)

and yes, for casual gathering, the F20M is the best tool u can get.

further info for you. the F20 uses triple A (AAA) batteries. they are a little pricey if rely on alkaline batt (non rechargeable)... if you think you would use it often, consider investing in a simple Sanyo Eneloop 2x AAA + charger set at around 80-100. (although i prefer Maha set, a  FS401S(rm110) + 4x Imedion AAA (rm55))
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wow F20m 299 is a good deal!~ thumbup.gif
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I went to Sony store at Curve two days ago and saw some rebate ads, didn't look clearly into the details. Anyone knows this? I'm particularly interested to know if the Sony FE 55 f1.8 and the FE 35 f2.8 got rebate cash or not? Thank you!
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QUOTE(melvintcs @ Aug 4 2014, 08:21 PM)
Thanks for all the clarity, it helped me a lot  thumbup.gif

"stronger 'popup' flash"
yes, that's all i need, i din't do photography for money, it's simply a hobby and capture those memories when hang out (especially indoor party) with friends.

price gap between F20M and F43M is too huge(rm499 vs rm1300?), that's why i dont consider it.

well, it's not urgent, i got times to do the survey and comparison within these two.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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F20M SRP RM499, meanwhile F43M SRP RM999. why i suggest F43M is because F43M flash output can be adjusted, more flexibility. of course, F20M is useful too if u just want easy & better flash
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 4 2014, 08:42 PM)
ahhh sorry i didnt know the price diff that much, all this while i thought F20m was like 299 (i got mine at that price) and F43m at 999rrp and 750 street. F60m at 1499rrp and 1.3 street price (got mine at 1250) (i marked the street price up a little due to lack of stock)

and yes, for casual gathering, the F20M is the best tool u can get.

further info for you. the F20 uses triple A (AAA) batteries. they are a little pricey if rely on alkaline batt (non rechargeable)... if you think you would use it often, consider investing in a simple Sanyo Eneloop 2x AAA + charger set at around 80-100. (although i prefer Maha set, a  FS401S(rm110) + 4x Imedion AAA (rm55))
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mind share where did you purchase it for 299?

BTW, which one is newer F20m or F20s model?

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hi,

i have a nex 5t and power lense selp1650.
the lens is starting to make noise, grinding noise. icon_question.gif
how long will it last b4 lens is totally broken? i cant get a replacement now as im in the uk. wont be back until oct.
im so screwed. sad.gif

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 4 2014, 05:45 PM)
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A6000 pop up flash doesnt support HSS.
A6000 pop up flash doesnt support WL HSS.

A6000 Mounted F43m and F60m Support HSS and WL HSS mode.

A6000 mounted F20m (no idea, didnt get to test it yet).
edit: A6000 mounted F20M doesnt support HSS. but still not sure about WL HSS. i think it doesnt either.
melvintcs: the F20M idea is to have a stronger 'popup' flash on standby, it cannot be used as a workhorse (mean for an event)... the battery eventually last for about/less 200 shots bounce at F5.6 (mean almost full power fired)

the F20M is like a standby flash for people that usually goes around flash-less... light traveling doesnt bring big flash and just need a flash in case flash is needed.
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Thank you.
F43m on the list after the E 50mm 1.8... nod.gif
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 5 2014, 09:12 AM)
Thank you.
F43m on the list after the E 50mm 1.8... nod.gif
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ehh abam nk3371 dah jumpship ke??
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SIFU! notworthy.gif

Not fully jump.. Nikons still there. tongue.gif
Choosed the A6000 for it's portability and great ISO performance.
Current D70s & D200 dialed to ISO 1000 already messed up the photos. doh.gif

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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 5 2014, 11:16 AM)
SIFU! notworthy.gif

Not fully jump.. Nikons still there. tongue.gif
Choosed the A6000 for it's portability and great ISO performance.
Current D70s & D200 dialed to ISO 1000 already messed up the photos. doh.gif

Kinda hooked to the A6000 right now. Might sell those Nikons. Tapi sayang... sweat.gif
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aiyo...me ayam level lg maa...
A6000 is a superb little beast...dont sell,keep it as backup camera or donate to the needy....hehehe..
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QUOTE(hazril @ Aug 5 2014, 11:24 AM)
aiyo...me ayam level lg maa...
A6000 is a superb little beast...dont sell,keep it as backup camera or donate to the needy....hehehe..
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Agreed. Am very pleased to use it track side.
I'll missed nothing with the 11fps capability. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Aug 5 2014, 04:42 AM)
mind share where did you purchase it for 299?

BTW, which one is newer F20m or F20s model?
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F20S is designed for NEX-3 & 5 series camera, which not compatible with A6000. F20M is the flash which compatible with A6000
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Aug 5 2014, 04:42 AM)
mind share where did you purchase it for 299?

BTW, which one is newer F20m or F20s model?
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sorry it was the F20AM, the price should be same... i brought it when F20AM just came out... thats like nearly 4 years ago. since i got adapter from the A99, so i still use it with the adapter.

F20s is for the 'smart terminal' from Nex3/5 series. the A3000 and A6000 uses the new MIiso. (multimedia interface iso)


F20s for the Nex3/5 series
F20AM for the old Alpha hotshoe, (A100/200/300/700/900, A33/35/55/57/65/77)
F20M is for all the lastest model. finally unify as one hotshoe between A and E mount. (camera that comes after Nex6, Axxxx series and A99)
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Hi guys,

New around here. Just wanted to say a quick hi.

I own a Nikon D800 and a Sony A7. Would hope to share and contribute around here in future.


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QUOTE(pugger79 @ Aug 5 2014, 04:49 PM)
Hi guys,

New around here. Just wanted to say a quick hi.

I own a Nikon D800 and a Sony A7. Would hope to share and contribute around here in future.
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Welcome! Spread some full frame poison here from those 2 beasts.
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QUOTE(deShinyDevil @ Aug 5 2014, 08:36 AM)
hi,

i have a nex 5t and power lense selp1650.
the lens is starting to make noise, grinding noise.  icon_question.gif
how long will it last b4 lens is totally broken? i cant get a replacement now as im in the uk. wont be back until oct.
im so screwed. sad.gif
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Does it have sound while zooming in and out? Check to see if there's sand that entered the barrel, the gap there is quite big, so easy enter. Mine kena last week
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 5 2014, 04:58 PM)
Welcome! Spread some full frame poison here from those 2 beasts.
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Hahahhaa...that's not my intention.

But will definitely share some pics if you all don't mind.
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Hahahhaa...that's not my intention.

But will definitely share some pics if you all don't mind.
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Anyone here into timelapse with their sony cam?

Care to share what other gadget/accessories r u using for motion time lapse (Eg; flow-mow, spinpod, galileo, radian, genie & etc)
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 5 2014, 12:56 PM)
sorry it was the F20AM, the price should be same... i brought it when F20AM just came out... thats like nearly 4 years ago. since i got adapter from the A99, so i still use it with the adapter.

F20s is for the 'smart terminal' from Nex3/5 series. the A3000 and A6000 uses the new MIiso. (multimedia interface iso)
F20s for the Nex3/5 series
F20AM for the old Alpha hotshoe, (A100/200/300/700/900, A33/35/55/57/65/77)
F20M is for all the lastest model. finally unify as one hotshoe between A and E mount. (camera that comes after Nex6, Axxxx series and A99)
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maybe moderator shall add the flash compatibility at 1st page and new user can refer it
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 5 2014, 12:56 PM)
sorry it was the F20AM, the price should be same... i brought it when F20AM just came out... thats like nearly 4 years ago. since i got adapter from the A99, so i still use it with the adapter.

F20s is for the 'smart terminal' from Nex3/5 series. the A3000 and A6000 uses the new MIiso. (multimedia interface iso)
F20s for the Nex3/5 series
F20AM for the old Alpha hotshoe, (A100/200/300/700/900, A33/35/55/57/65/77)
F20M is for all the lastest model. finally unify as one hotshoe between A and E mount. (camera that comes after Nex6, Axxxx series and A99)
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thumbup.gif thank you bro for the info
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Aug 5 2014, 06:00 PM)
Does it have sound while zooming in and out? Check to see if there's sand that entered the barrel, the gap there is quite big, so easy enter. Mine kena last week
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when the zoom extend then got sound retrieve just normal.
nope i dun think there is sand in there.
crap, not sure if its the gear making sound
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I'm considering should I get the FE 24-70 f4 or the FE 55+FE 35....headache. If the two primes come with OSS, I wouldn't have this headache since I want to shoot video with the A7s, so OSS is quite essential. But, the 24-70 is just a little too heavy and IQ been rated just average.....
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Anyone here change the screen protector of the nex cameras?

was trying to peel off the nex7 screen protector n change to glass screen protector...

n realize it very hard to peel off! Is it smt like xperia phones?
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power la abam ayman nih...piem perut plis...
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 6 2014, 02:30 AM)
I'm considering should I get the FE 24-70 f4 or the FE 55+FE 35....headache. If the two primes come with OSS, I wouldn't have this headache since I want to shoot video with the A7s, so OSS is quite essential. But, the 24-70 is just a little too heavy and IQ been rated just average.....
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flycam or stabilizer rig.... issue fixed.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 6 2014, 05:09 PM)
flycam or stabilizer rig.... issue fixed.
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if i don't mind a flycam, then i won't mind the weight difference between the 55 and the 24-70. laugh.gif
i just want a really light package...do you think 35 and 55 focal length don't really need stabilizer to work for video handheld? maybe worst situation, add a GorillaPod to stabilize.... hmm.gif

do you think the low res of A7S need that sharpness of 55 and 35 primes? wondering....since it's not a A7R which demand super sharp lens.....

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FullHD is only 2mp. so imagine the 12mp scale down to 2mp.

i dont know your video style... a lot running movie? or static handheld from where you sit?.... a lot will factor into the shake of the video. there is also post-processing stabilizer (software base)
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 7 2014, 03:10 AM)
FullHD is only 2mp. so imagine the 12mp scale down to 2mp.

i dont know your video style... a lot running movie? or static handheld from where you sit?.... a lot will factor into the shake of the video. there is also post-processing stabilizer (software base)
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The stabilization in post with Premier CS6 that I'm using right now on PC can only be use for slightly shake (ie. shooting a still frame on tele), for more shaky shots it generates too much artifacts. And furthermore, it crops the image to do stabilization, which needs to sharpen quite a bit to match with other footages. I heard one called something like Lock-n-Lock that only works for FCP which is a much better one.
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if your video does a lot walking, grab a flycam.
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hi everyone. are you joining the alpha workshop?

http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSupe...hasuperworkshop
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http://thenewcamera.com/sony-rx2-new-specification-leaked/
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Finally had time to test memory card speed smile.gif
today set to write jpg to flashair and raw to sandisk extreme plus. seems fine with normal shoots.
next time see how it goes during event/photoshoot biggrin.gif

Comparing between Toshiba Flash Air 32gb with Sandisk Extreme Plus 32gb

Toshiba FlashAir rated at class 10 however no exact speed was given
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Sandisk Extreme Plus 32gb rated at 80mb read and 45mb write.
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RX1 is a gorgeous camera, excellent both the look and image quality. But I don't have that luxury to spend, need a more flexible changeable lens system. smile.gif
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Guys, did you remove your camera's battery say if you don't use it for several days?
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Aug 7 2014, 09:28 PM)
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http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSupe...hasuperworkshop
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why.... why melaka ><
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Guys, did you remove your camera's battery say if you don't use it for several days?
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No. I leave it all the time inside. Reason? No time if I want to quickly take a candid shot of my 18 month old. smile.gif
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Guys, did you remove your camera's battery say if you don't use it for several days?
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if you shoot once a week.. then it is OK.. else best to take out esp if you are forgetful.. extended discharge can cause irreversible damage to any LiPO battery! Best not to shoot until battery is totally flat.

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I'd suggest to remove it as it's no good for battery. You only need max 5 seconds to put on a battery...for my case, 3 seconds is more than enough. laugh.gif

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why.... why melaka ><
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Finally got my SEL35F18, totally amazing lens.

One question tough, the aperture blades tend to produce grinding noise during focusing phase when its open and close. It is normal?

Here is the relevant video I found, exactly the same noise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_sBxWvLiE

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 9 2014, 11:02 AM)
Finally got my SEL35F18, totally amazing lens.

One question tough, the aperture blades tend to produce grinding noise during focusing phase when its open and close. It is normal?

Here is the relevant video I found, exactly the same noise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_sBxWvLiE
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Bro,

Share some photos. I am thinking about this lens. Need some racuning.
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Aug 8 2014, 11:14 PM)
if you shoot once a week.. then it is OK.. else best to take out esp if you are forgetful.. extended discharge can cause irreversible damage to any LiPO battery!  Best not to shoot until battery is totally flat.
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hello, Sony Batt are Li-ion.....

yes, all rechargeable battery cannot be 100% flat. once it become zero, the battery is dead, only with special device or high end charge 'may' short it to bring it back to life (no guaranty).

shooting for 5 years, never removed it. but will always check the % before leave house.

*edit: before someone make a joke out of it, no, i still remove it for charging... not as if the batt is inside the camera for 5 years without charging. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 9 2014, 11:02 AM)
Finally got my SEL35F18, totally amazing lens.

One question tough, the aperture blades tend to produce grinding noise during focusing phase when its open and close. It is normal?

Here is the relevant video I found, exactly the same noise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_sBxWvLiE
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the Zig Zag is normal. the sound is noticeable with all my lens, on the 35, the aperture is much bigger then other lenses.

i. the sound is due to wider aperture lens, F/1.8 is a really wide aperture. the 'distance' for the aperture to close down from F1.8 to F4 is more then F3.5 to F16, hence the distances means louder and longer obvious noise.
DSLR/SLT aperture create the same noise too, just that mirror flaps and shutter sound is too loud that you wouldnt able to heard it.

ii. why there is a zigzag to begin with? it only happens when you focus... the aperture will open widest it can to focus because it will need all the light it can get to focus. and will close back down to the aperture you are on (eg, F4), and if you notice, when closed down, the Liveview will show a little more noise in darker environment due to the light gain on F4(or darker) for liveview. DSLR only closes the aperture during shutter release because if its close down full time, imagine a F8 optical viewfinder, its going to be really dark.

but if you shoot wide open like F1.8-F2.2, you will hardly hears it.

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 9 2014, 11:02 AM)
Finally got my SEL35F18, totally amazing lens.

One question tough, the aperture blades tend to produce grinding noise during focusing phase when its open and close. It is normal?

Here is the relevant video I found, exactly the same noise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_sBxWvLiE
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hi bro, how much u got it from? =)
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hello, Sony Batt are Li-ion.....

yes, all rechargeable battery cannot be 100% flat. once it become zero, the battery is dead, only with special device or high end charge 'may' short it to bring it back to life (no guaranty).

shooting for 5 years, never removed it. but will always check the % before leave house.
the Zig Zag is normal. the sound is noticeable with all my lens, on the 35, the aperture is much bigger then other lenses.

i. the sound is due to wider aperture lens, F/1.8 is a really wide aperture. the 'distance' for the aperture to close down from F1.8 to F4 is more then F3.5 to F16, hence the distances means louder and longer obvious noise.
DSLR/SLT aperture create the same noise too, just that mirror flaps and shutter sound is too loud that you wouldnt able to heard it.

ii. why there is a zigzag to begin with? it only happens when you focus... the aperture will open widest it can to focus because it will need all the light it can get to focus. and will close back down to the aperture you are on (eg, F4), and if you notice, when closed down, the Liveview will show a little more noise in darker environment due to the light gain on F4(or darker) for liveview. DSLR only closes the aperture during shutter release because if its close down full time, imagine a F8 optical viewfinder, its going to be really dark.

but if you shoot wide open like F1.8-F2.2, you will hardly hears it.
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When I first unbox the lens and test it indoor which is a quiet environment, that's why the noise is pretty much noticeable.
Today, I brought it outdoor and the noise was much muted. Yes, shot it wide open produce no sound at all. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(babyploy86 @ Aug 9 2014, 05:45 PM)
hi bro, how much u got it from? =)
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I got it from Fotokem (MV), cost me RM1050, need a week or two to order.
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When I first unbox the lens and test it indoor which is a quiet environment, that's why the noise is pretty much noticeable.
Today, I brought it outdoor and the noise was much muted. Yes, shot it wide open produce no sound at all.  thumbup.gif
I got it from Fotokem (MV), cost me RM1050, need a week or two to order.
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just a quick question on camera servicing
the best place to send ur camera back for servicing would be the sony center right? or is there any 3rd party camera shop who can do a better job since it is already out of warranty?

pls advise
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wanna ask HVL-F20AM should work with adapter on newer hotshoe bodies rite?
also it could be use as 'like' pop up flash trigger on a850/a900 . can it be use the same on newer bodies ? a99?
possible to trigger f43AM?
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Aug 10 2014, 01:52 PM)
hi sifu smile.gif

wanna ask HVL-F20AM should work with adapter on newer hotshoe bodies rite?
also it could be use as 'like' pop up flash trigger on a850/a900 . can it be use the same on newer bodies ? a99?
possible to trigger f43AM?
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It should, but I can't confirm this because my HVL-F20AM died before I got my A99. sad.gif

I have however tried the ADP-AMA with the A99 and HVL-F58AM to trigger the HVL-F43AM and it does work.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Aug 10 2014, 01:52 PM)
hi sifu smile.gif

wanna ask HVL-F20AM should work with adapter on newer hotshoe bodies rite?
also it could be use as 'like' pop up flash trigger on a850/a900 . can it be use the same on newer bodies ? a99?
possible to trigger f43AM?
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I'm using the 20am flash with adapter on nex 6, works no problem. the only way to control flash output is through the flash power setting in the camera
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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 10 2014, 02:35 PM)
It should, but I can't confirm this because my HVL-F20AM died before I got my A99. sad.gif

I have however tried the ADP-AMA with the A99 and HVL-F58AM to trigger the HVL-F43AM and it does work.
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i see.
tempting coz got some1 selling cheap.
if could trigger, then dont need fund to get F58/F60 for now hahaa laugh.gif

QUOTE(nixonyang @ Aug 10 2014, 03:43 PM)
I'm using the 20am flash with adapter on nex 6, works no problem. the only way to control flash output is through the flash power setting in the camera
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noted.
yup F20 is just like pop up flash only it can do bounce (if enuf power la) biggrin.gif
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I got it from Fotokem (MV), cost me RM1050, need a week or two to order.
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this price soooooo nice ! the lowest i found is 1280 hmm.gif

if anyone know any seller sell lower than 1280 pls pm me biggrin.gif
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this price soooooo nice ! the lowest i found is 1280 hmm.gif

if anyone know any seller sell lower than 1280 pls pm me  biggrin.gif
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this price soooooo nice ! the lowest i found is 1280 hmm.gif

if anyone know any seller sell lower than 1280 pls pm me  biggrin.gif
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I used to buy from Fotokem when I was in my early days of photography many years back. But when I started moving on to more expensive gear, I found Fotokem too expensive.

Eventually I went with YLCamera in Pudu and Boeing Photo in Sungei Wang. And even then, after YLCamera started to expand, their prices became less competitive and now I get almost all my gear from Boeing Photo. You can try them. But not sure whether they give very good prices to new clients or whether Fotokem have become competitive again since my last visit 4 to 5 years ago.
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QUOTE(pugger79 @ Aug 10 2014, 05:52 PM)
I used to buy from Fotokem when I was in my early days of photography many years back. But when I started moving on to more expensive gear, I found Fotokem too expensive.

Eventually I went with YLCamera in Pudu and Boeing Photo in Sungei Wang. And even then, after YLCamera started to expand, their prices became less competitive and now I get almost all my gear from Boeing Photo. You can try them. But not sure whether they give very good prices to new clients or whether Fotokem have become competitive again since my last visit 4 to 5 years ago.
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boeing still selling at a good price from my last visit 2 months ago. comparable to the whole area, the price inside lowyat plaza is sky high compared to them
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i see.
tempting coz got some1 selling cheap.
if could trigger, then dont need fund to get F58/F60 for now hahaa  laugh.gif
noted.
yup F20 is just like pop up flash only it can do bounce (if enuf power la)  biggrin.gif
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It certainly had enough power to bounce, when I tried it with the A900 at ISO1600 and F2.8. On the A99 I comfortably go to ISO6400. I haven't found out what my limit is on the A7s though.

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Here's the A7s with the Sony E 16mm F2.8, with the rear baffle removed. It's got a very interesting distortion. Taken from this blog post.

When I actually get around to charging enough batteries to put in 2 flashes, I'd update you all on wireless controller capability - but from testing the F60M on the A7s, it seems it doesn't switch away from CTRL+ mode when I press the shutter (as you may experience on bodies that don't support this), meaning it probably supports 3-group CTRL/RMT/RMT2 ratio mode.


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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Aug 10 2014, 01:52 PM)
hi sifu smile.gif

wanna ask HVL-F20AM should work with adapter on newer hotshoe bodies rite?
also it could be use as 'like' pop up flash trigger on a850/a900 . can it be use the same on newer bodies ? a99?
possible to trigger f43AM?
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yes it does trigger WL flash via adapter like A900/850/A77/II. confirmed by me
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https://store.sony.com.my/productlisting.aspx?catid=217

for those who are looking to buy the sel50f18..

got my copy it last saturday and compared to my kit lens at same aperture.. it its definitely sharper and pretty happy with my purchase.. especially with the discount smile.gif
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for those who are looking to buy the sel50f18..

got my copy it last saturday and compared to my kit lens at same aperture.. it its definitely sharper and pretty happy with my purchase
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I used to buy from Fotokem when I was in my early days of photography many years back. But when I started moving on to more expensive gear, I found Fotokem too expensive.

Eventually I went with YLCamera in Pudu and Boeing Photo in Sungei Wang. And even then, after YLCamera started to expand, their prices became less competitive and now I get almost all my gear from Boeing Photo. You can try them. But not sure whether they give very good prices to new clients or whether Fotokem have become competitive again since my last visit 4 to 5 years ago.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 10 2014, 06:22 PM)
It certainly had enough power to bounce, when I tried it with the A900 at ISO1600 and F2.8. On the A99 I comfortably go to ISO6400. I haven't found out what my limit is on the A7s though.

user posted image
Here's the A7s with the Sony E 16mm F2.8, with the rear baffle removed. It's got a very interesting distortion. Taken from this blog post.

When I actually get around to charging enough batteries to put in 2 flashes, I'd update you all on wireless controller capability - but from testing the F60M on the A7s, it seems it doesn't switch away from CTRL+ mode when I press the shutter (as you may experience on bodies that don't support this), meaning it probably supports 3-group CTRL/RMT/RMT2 ratio mode.
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i was wondering what lens u were using for the blog post haha.
with A7s u no need f2.8 no more haha.


QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 10 2014, 07:08 PM)
yes it does trigger WL flash via adapter like A900/850/A77/II. confirmed by me
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will take the deal for sure smile.gif
thanks
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I used to buy from Fotokem when I was in my early days of photography many years back. But when I started moving on to more expensive gear, I found Fotokem too expensive.

Eventually I went with YLCamera in Pudu and Boeing Photo in Sungei Wang. And even then, after YLCamera started to expand, their prices became less competitive and now I get almost all my gear from Boeing Photo. You can try them. But not sure whether they give very good prices to new clients or whether Fotokem have become competitive again since my last visit 4 to 5 years ago.
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just my opinion. if u very often deal with their company's outlet PIC, they'll acknowledge u as regular customer, and there's a chance of u will get special offer from them
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Selling new original np-fw50 battery and selp1650. Let me know anyone interested biggrin.gif

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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3314986&hl=
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just my opinion. if u very often deal with their company's outlet PIC, they'll acknowledge u as regular customer, and there's a chance of u will get special offer from them
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True.

I guess at the end of the day, it is which shop that made you return and become a regular customer. I guess every shop will almost definitely give special price to their regulars.

Probably will end up diff shops for diff people. But I guess competition is quite high now.

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Selling new original np-fw50 battery and selp1650. Let me know anyone interested biggrin.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3315005&hl=
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3314986&hl=
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why battery sell so cheap? haha. The lens better put some protection on its rear, later damage like that
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True.

I guess at the end of the day, it is which shop that made you return and become a regular customer. I guess every shop will almost definitely give special price to their regulars.

Probably will end up diff shops for diff people. But I guess competition is quite high now.
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That makes sense.
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QUOTE(lingch @ Aug 11 2014, 12:05 AM)
Selling new original np-fw50 battery and selp1650. Let me know anyone interested biggrin.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3315005&hl=
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3314986&hl=
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even a new kit lens would be damaged if u put the lens like that without place rear lens cap
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A noob question.

I seldom do RAW but today I edited a RAM file in Photoshop CC, then when I saved it in JPEG, the colour is different from what I see in Photoshop. Any idea why this happened?

BTW, I'm using a77.
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this may sound like a stupid question but how frequent do we need to service our camera?

i just used my a7 on weekly basis.. so will once a year service will do? actually, what do they really do when they service yr cam?

lastly, where do we bring our sony cam for servicing?
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 11 2014, 10:33 AM)
this may sound like a stupid question but how frequent do we need to service our camera?

i just used my a7 on weekly basis.. so will once a year service will do? actually, what do they really do when they service yr cam?

lastly, where do we bring our sony cam for servicing?
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i've been using a77 nearly 2 years and never had it send for services...just DIY cleanup only...even my a300 never been to the service center...just make sure you take good care of the camera like no water spillage or what so ever... smile.gif
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QUOTE(hazril @ Aug 11 2014, 10:48 AM)
i've been using a77 nearly 2 years and never had it send for services...just DIY cleanup only...even my a300 never been to the service center...just make sure you take good care of the camera like no water spillage or what so ever... smile.gif
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aa.. okok.. tx bro smile.gif

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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Aug 10 2014, 06:20 PM)
boeing still selling at a good price from my last visit 2 months ago. comparable to the whole area, the price inside lowyat plaza is sky high compared to them
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Well, I would say price really differ from shop to shop depend on what package you are looking for. Some shop sell camera cheap, lens slightly more pricy, or accessory more pricy. I bought my SEL35F18 for RM999 last month during the hari raya promo at fotokem in lowyat (price was cheap cause I bought the Sony A6000 from them as well). Before committing to the purchase, I personally visited 8 camera shops ( within lowyat, sungei wang, mid valley), and called up two shops (yl, digitalmania and another japanese sounding website). Standard camera with kitlens price all the shops are roughly the same. But with package certain shops can do better. So, to find the cheapest, one just have to go do the extra footwork.
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A noob question.

I seldom do RAW but today I edited a RAM file in Photoshop CC, then when I saved it in JPEG, the colour is different from what I see in Photoshop. Any idea why this happened?

BTW, I'm using a77.
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the ARW file, are Proprietary format to Sony. (same as crw for canon and nef for nikon)... they do not release the codes to public, and require very special license to use the codes. Only the Original Software develop by the own company will have full support to the ARW file. from a proper exposure control, to Color Profile, to Dynamic range control, to picture effect (canon)

Adobe does not have the license to operate ARW files, so adobe uses the closest color palettes chart to read them. hence you will Never get Sony color out from 3rd party software. so does canon and nikon, which many, even pro photographer doesnt notice that, only pure editors know only... so they operate on default 'flat/neutral' tone and adjust the color to their liking (split toning). very advance editing methods.

(that the reason i dont shoot raw, i shoot jpeg and learn to process the jpeg at its limit)
QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 11 2014, 10:33 AM)
this may sound like a stupid question but how frequent do we need to service our camera?

i just used my a7 on weekly basis.. so will once a year service will do? actually, what do they really do when they service yr cam?

lastly, where do we bring our sony cam for servicing?
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unlike car, no, it doesnt have a maintenance schedule.... just general self 'wear and tear cleaning'. all the compartment inside are designed to last quiet a long time. 5 year old A300 still running over 150,000 clicks...
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QUOTE(lchee @ Aug 11 2014, 02:59 PM)
Well, I would say price really differ from shop to shop depend on what package you are looking for.  Some shop sell camera cheap, lens slightly more pricy, or accessory more pricy.  I bought my SEL35F18 for RM999 last month during the hari raya promo at fotokem in lowyat (price was cheap cause I bought the Sony A6000 from them as well).  Before committing to the purchase, I personally visited 8 camera shops ( within lowyat, sungei wang, mid valley), and called up two shops (yl, digitalmania and another japanese sounding website).  Standard camera with kitlens price all the shops are roughly the same.  But with package certain shops can do better.  So, to find the cheapest, one just have to go do the extra footwork.
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QUOTE(lchee @ Aug 11 2014, 02:59 PM)
Well, I would say price really differ from shop to shop depend on what package you are looking for.  Some shop sell camera cheap, lens slightly more pricy, or accessory more pricy.  I bought my SEL35F18 for RM999 last month during the hari raya promo at fotokem in lowyat (price was cheap cause I bought the Sony A6000 from them as well).  Before committing to the purchase, I personally visited 8 camera shops ( within lowyat, sungei wang, mid valley), and called up two shops (yl, digitalmania and another japanese sounding website).  Standard camera with kitlens price all the shops are roughly the same.  But with package certain shops can do better.  So, to find the cheapest, one just have to go do the extra footwork.
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50% agree. haha. btw, if u very well known to camera dealer, dealer will try their best for offer best price & package to u
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in my case of shopping, its a little different. i wouldnt skimp a place for 50 ringgit cheaper, for the reason, i rather give the sale person a little extra to earn(commission?)... while i bully him kao kao... ok, im joking bout bully.... i make fun of the sale person in a good way, so i will leave a deep impression(charisma skill), then when i return and he'd recognize me... and he will automatically give me best price without asking. a few more visit and he will introduce to other sale person or maybe manager. soon, i'll be VIP of the shop with automatic best discount. smile.gif but i haven been hauling anything (big) since nov 2012... only battery (best price rm150 type M)
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 11 2014, 09:39 PM)
in my case of shopping, its a little different. i wouldnt skimp a place for 50 ringgit cheaper, for the reason, i rather give the sale person a little extra to earn(commission?)... while i bully him kao kao... ok, im joking bout bully.... i make fun of the sale person in a good way, so i will leave a deep impression(charisma skill), then when i return and he'd recognize me... and he will automatically give me best price without asking. a few more visit and he will introduce to other sale person or maybe manager. soon, i'll be VIP of the shop with automatic best discount. smile.gif but i haven been hauling anything (big) since nov 2012... only battery (best price rm150 type M)
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a good way to become VIP icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 11 2014, 06:05 PM)
the ARW file, are Proprietary format to Sony. (same as crw for canon and nef for nikon)... they do not release the codes to public, and require very special license to use the codes. Only the Original Software develop by the own company will have full support to the ARW file. from a proper exposure control, to Color Profile, to Dynamic range control, to picture effect (canon)

Adobe does not have the license to operate ARW files, so adobe uses the closest color palettes chart to read them. hence you will Never get Sony color out from 3rd party software. so does canon and nikon, which many, even pro photographer doesnt notice that, only pure editors know only... so they operate on default 'flat/neutral' tone and adjust the color to their liking (split toning). very advance editing methods.

(that the reason i dont shoot raw, i shoot jpeg and learn to process the jpeg at its limit)
unlike car, no, it doesnt have a maintenance schedule.... just general self 'wear and tear cleaning'. all the compartment inside are designed to last quiet a long time. 5 year old A300 still running over 150,000 clicks...
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Thanks Ed Paul for the help. Your explanation is exactly how I faced when using Lightroom. But Photoshop is somehow different.

In Lightroom, the moment you imported the RAW, the colour is changed, hence you can edit based on the colour displayed in Lightroom.

But in Photoshop, the colour remains OK after I imported them. So I edit it based on what Photoshop displays. The problem comes when the photo is exported, which has a totally off colour.
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Is your camera shooting in aRGB or sRGB? It is best to use sRGB if you do not have the hardware for aRGB, simple as that.

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Is your camera shooting in aRGB or sRGB? It is best to use sRGB if you do not have the hardware for aRGB, simple as that.
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Thanks Ed Paul for the help. Your explanation is exactly how I faced when using Lightroom. But Photoshop is somehow different.

In Lightroom, the moment you imported the RAW, the colour is changed, hence you can edit based on the colour displayed in Lightroom.

But in Photoshop, the colour remains OK after I imported them. So I edit it based on what Photoshop displays. The problem comes when the photo is exported, which has a totally off colour.
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there is some camera color profile can be downloaded, it will give near, very near color to Sony's. i misplace mine sad.gif coz i hardly use raw.
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did u mean,

"3rd party company" has no access to Sony's Color via their Raw files?"

i dont know if there is any company come close or actually has the fullcolor table of the Sony raw data file... but its just color, a lot photographer will edit or use present to adjust the color effect at the end of day, just play around more it could create new style or even create a signature style like kenhui... where is stanley anyway? haven seen any of his post lately....
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did u mean,

"3rd party company" has no access to Sony's Color via their Raw files?"

i dont know if there is any company come close or actually has the fullcolor table of the Sony raw data file... but its just color, a lot photographer will edit or use present to adjust the color effect at the end of day, just play around more it could create new style or even create a signature style like kenhui... where is stanley anyway? haven seen any of his post lately....
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 11 2014, 06:05 PM)
the ARW file, are Proprietary format to Sony. (same as crw for canon and nef for nikon)... they do not release the codes to public, and require very special license to use the codes. Only the Original Software develop by the own company will have full support to the ARW file. from a proper exposure control, to Color Profile, to Dynamic range control, to picture effect (canon)

Adobe does not have the license to operate ARW files, so adobe uses the closest color palettes chart to read them. hence you will Never get Sony color out from 3rd party software. so does canon and nikon, which many, even pro photographer doesnt notice that, only pure editors know only... so they operate on default 'flat/neutral' tone and adjust the color to their liking (split toning). very advance editing methods.

(that the reason i dont shoot raw, i shoot jpeg and learn to process the jpeg at its limit)
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True.

I guess at the end of the day, it is which shop that made you return and become a regular customer. I guess every shop will almost definitely give special price to their regulars.

Probably will end up diff shops for diff people. But I guess competition is quite high now.
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hey there guys.. is the sel1018 worth the money? or the sel16f28 with UWA converter will come close to it in terms of IQ.. want to justify the significant price gap between them.. huhu
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hey there guys.. is the sel1018 worth the money? or the sel16f28 with UWA converter will come close to it in terms of IQ.. want to justify the significant price gap between them.. huhu
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the SEL1018 F4 is a VERY sharp lens. (was very surprised with the result i tested on A6000)

16F2.8 is average sharp lens, like a kitlens sharpness

16F2.8 UWA adapter... terrible iq (no idea why)

16F2.8 FE adapter.... nice and sharp and fun to play with.

surely the price for the 16F2.8(2nd hand) with UWA adapter(new) can easily get for less then 1k compare to the 1018 cost nearly 3k for new. but the 1018 will worth every cent you spend. spending 3k will give u 3k value of sharpness.
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Do you guys put screen protector on your camera's LCD screen? What brand and who to buy it? Or you are using the same as smartphone and go to Pasar malam to stick it?
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Any cropping involve? Mine sharing yr cam setup & lens used for this shot?

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Ya i simply buy from camrra shop and stick to it. Rm10.
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hey there guys.. is the sel1018 worth the money? or the sel16f28 with UWA converter will come close to it in terms of IQ.. want to justify the significant price gap between them.. huhu
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I have both.. started with sel16 with both adapters. In the end find it quite a pain to keep on swapping.. Also the Adapters front element cannot be protected by any filters from getting finger marks. scratch or bumps. Quite a pain if you are in a hurry to change lens.

Got the 1018 in the end and it solve all my problem. Image quality is also a lot better. You will also get a stright horizon but to be fair, the Fish eye adapter is a bit wider coverage. Some people like the curve effect.

I started early on the NEX so 1018 did not exist then and my NEX 5N came with it as 2nd lens.

The only advantage you will have is the sel16 is extremely compact and lite even with adapter.. Not an issue to me but to some it is!


user posted imageaDSC00173 by chin_w_y, on Flickr

SEL16 with Fish Eye.. this type of effect you cannot get on the 1018 but also note the soft edges.

user posted imageaDSC04271bx by chin_w_y, on Flickr

SEL1018 note the straight horizon and much sharper picture esp at the edges.
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nice shot bos..

QUOTE(ChinWY @ Aug 13 2014, 07:35 PM)
I have both.. started with sel16 with both adapters. In the end find it quite a pain to keep on swapping.. Also the Adapters front element cannot be protected by any filters from getting finger marks. scratch or bumps.  Quite a pain if you are in a hurry to change lens. 

Got the 1018 in the end and it solve all my problem.  Image quality is also a lot better.  You will also get a stright horizon but to be fair, the Fish eye adapter is a bit wider coverage.  Some people like the curve effect. 

I started early on the NEX so 1018 did not exist then and my NEX 5N came with it as 2nd lens.

The only advantage you will have is the sel16 is extremely compact and lite even with adapter.. Not an issue to me but to some it is! 
user posted imageaDSC00173 by chin_w_y, on Flickr

SEL16 with Fish Eye.. this type of effect you cannot get on the 1018 but also note the soft edges.

user posted imageaDSC04271bx by chin_w_y, on Flickr

SEL1018  note the straight horizon and much sharper picture esp at the edges.
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SEL16 with Fish Eye.. this type of effect you cannot get on the 1018 but also note the soft edges.
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the corner softness really horrible sad.gif
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for the fish eye it is quite bad - very soft. Sharpening helps a bit.. I have not tested it on the A6000 yet.. gave the lens away.. will borrow it again and test out.. one day..

For the ultra wide it is excellent and no issues. Seems to work well together.

this one is taken with the UW filter add on.. It allow me to get real close for street shooting without having to worry too much about framing and people getting too highly distorted at the edge..

user posted imageaDSC07863b by chin_w_y, on Flickr

and this one the same combination too.

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NEX 3 (the original grand daddy of NEX) with fisheye...

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Sony NEX-3
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Also see how it exaggerates the foreground subjects, and if used cleverly, there will be no curved horizon.

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Waaaaa~ Just when I'm about to sell my SEL16F28 everyone racun with the fisheye adapter pulak..! cry.gif

Wanna ask a bit.

SEL35F18 vs SEL50F18.
Which one is better in terms of IQ?
Main concern is overall sharpness and purple fringing.

My first thought, 35mm is better for me as it's more compact and shorter focal length.
Yes it is a bit pricey compare to the 50mm, but the gap is not that big.

But if the 50mm's IQ is better overall, I'll go for the 50.

Your helps much appreciated.
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 14 2014, 12:34 PM)
Waaaaa~ Just when I'm about to sell my SEL16F28 everyone racun with the fisheye adapter pulak..! cry.gif

Wanna ask a bit.

SEL35F18 vs SEL50F18.
Which one is better in terms of IQ?
Main concern is overall sharpness and purple fringing.

My first thought, 35mm is better for me as it's more compact and shorter focal length.
Yes it is a bit pricey compare to the 50mm, but the gap is not that big.

But if the 50mm's IQ is better overall, I'll go for the 50.

Your helps much appreciated.
Thank you. notworthy.gif
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I'd advice you to choose base on the focal length instead of sharpness. See which focal length you would prefer first, it plays a more important role.
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 14 2014, 12:34 PM)
Waaaaa~ Just when I'm about to sell my SEL16F28 everyone racun with the fisheye adapter pulak..! cry.gif

Wanna ask a bit.

SEL35F18 vs SEL50F18.
Which one is better in terms of IQ?
Main concern is overall sharpness and purple fringing.

My first thought, 35mm is better for me as it's more compact and shorter focal length.
Yes it is a bit pricey compare to the 50mm, but the gap is not that big.

But if the 50mm's IQ is better overall, I'll go for the 50.

Your helps much appreciated.
Thank you. notworthy.gif
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I read more good reviews on the 50 than the 35.
I also agree sharpness is not the most important consideration. But the IQ also highly depending on color rendering, contrast etc. That's what they called "Zeiss look" or "Leica look", the "pop up color" they called it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 14 2014, 12:34 PM)
Waaaaa~ Just when I'm about to sell my SEL16F28 everyone racun with the fisheye adapter pulak..! cry.gif

Wanna ask a bit.

SEL35F18 vs SEL50F18.
Which one is better in terms of IQ?
Main concern is overall sharpness and purple fringing.

My first thought, 35mm is better for me as it's more compact and shorter focal length.
Yes it is a bit pricey compare to the 50mm, but the gap is not that big.

But if the 50mm's IQ is better overall, I'll go for the 50.

Your helps much appreciated.
Thank you. notworthy.gif
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Why not consider buying SEL50F18 (RM799, Sony promo) and Sigma E-Mount Art series 30mm f/2.8 DN (around RM550) instead?
Tapao both still cheaper than buying SEL35F18 (RM 1499) alone.

I have SEL50F18 and Sigma 30mm f2.8 EX DN (not art series), both is really good. thumbup.gif

1. SEL50F18
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TQ sifus for all the input.

If I had to choose 1 lens right now, 35mm it is.

But, uraki's reply sounds interesting.
Need to study Sigma pulak.

Thank you again sifus.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 14 2014, 09:56 PM)
TQ sifus for all the input.

If I had to choose 1 lens right now, 35mm it is.

But, uraki's reply sounds interesting.
Need to study Sigma pulak.

Thank you again sifus.. notworthy.gif
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one other option is if your really need 35 and you are prepared to go full manual is to use the Contax G mout Carl Zeiss Biogon 28mm f2.8 You then get the zzzzz ! It will be bit more but close to your $. Also if you migrate in the future to FF you are still game because it is a FF lens.


There are 35mm version too but cost more and bit more difficult to get.. the 28 will be close to 50 mm operation for APSC.

But personally, I find the 50mm lens range (75mm in APSC) more my type too.. it is a personal choice base on working with both. More for shooting portrait ..

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 14 2014, 11:56 AM)
NEX 3 (the original grand daddy of NEX) with fisheye...

user posted image
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Sony NEX-3
E 16mm F2.8
ƒ/10.0  16.0 mm 1/30  200

user posted image
22Jul2014_0846 copy by william leong, on Flickr

Sony NEX-3
E 16mm F2.8
ƒ/10.0  16.0 mm 1/100  200

user posted image
22Jul2014_0832 copy by william leong, on Flickr


Sony NEX-3
E 16mm F2.8
ƒ/5.0  16.0 mm 1/30  1250
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 14 2014, 12:34 PM)
Waaaaa~ Just when I'm about to sell my SEL16F28 everyone racun with the fisheye adapter pulak..! cry.gif

Wanna ask a bit.

SEL35F18 vs SEL50F18.
Which one is better in terms of IQ?
Main concern is overall sharpness and purple fringing.

My first thought, 35mm is better for me as it's more compact and shorter focal length.
Yes it is a bit pricey compare to the 50mm, but the gap is not that big.

But if the 50mm's IQ is better overall, I'll go for the 50.

Your helps much appreciated.
Thank you. notworthy.gif
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depends ur preference. for my experience, SEL50F18 CA is much lesser than SEL35F18, and slightly sharper than SEL35F18. if u very often shoot portrait, i would recommend SEL50F18
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 14 2014, 04:56 PM)
TQ sifus for all the input.

If I had to choose 1 lens right now, 35mm it is.

But, uraki's reply sounds interesting.
Need to study Sigma pulak.

Thank you again sifus.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Aug 14 2014, 07:33 PM)
one other option is if your really need 35 and you are prepared to go full manual is to use the Contax G mout  Carl Zeiss Biogon 28mm f2.8  You then get the zzzzz !  It will be bit more but close to your $. Also if you migrate in the future to FF you are still game because it is a FF lens.
There are 35mm version too but cost more and bit more difficult to get.. the 28 will be close to 50 mm operation for APSC. 

But personally, I find the 50mm lens range (75mm in APSC) more my type too.. it is a personal choice base on working with both.  More for shooting portrait ..
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Wanna find an AF prime first as I need to shoot fast in certain event.
For now, my budget is for an AF lens. Next time maybe more on manual lenses.

50mm vs 35mm, 50mm more bokeh right? hmm.gif
Correct me if I'm wrong.

QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Aug 14 2014, 10:28 PM)
depends ur preference. for my experience, SEL50F18 CA is much lesser than SEL35F18, and slightly sharper than SEL35F18. if u very often shoot portrait, i would recommend SEL50F18
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Currently using 50mm 1.8 from Nikon with adapter.
I kind of happy with it but no AF means I cannot utilize it in certain fast moving event. sad.gif

QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Aug 14 2014, 10:52 PM)
u can go sony store for test the lens
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Will do.

Thank you for all the replies guys.
Really helps me decide on which lens to go. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nk3371 @ Aug 15 2014, 09:41 AM)
Wanna find an AF prime first as I need to shoot fast in certain event.
For now, my budget is for an AF lens. Next time maybe more on manual lenses.

50mm vs 35mm, 50mm more bokeh right? hmm.gif
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Currently using 50mm 1.8 from Nikon with adapter.
I kind of happy with it but no AF means I cannot utilize it in certain fast moving event. sad.gif
Will do.

Thank you for all the replies guys.
Really helps me decide on which lens to go. notworthy.gif
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AF on prime lens is not fast (unless it is SSM).
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50mm vs 35mm, 50mm more bokeh right? hmm.gif

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Keeping all things constant with respect to the two lens you mention - esp distance to object - yes.

Closer the distance the bokeh will increase but depth of field ,DOF also drop and in some case, it makes it very difficult to focus on the right place or the DOF is so shallow you cannot keep the total area of interest in pin point sharpness esp not level like shooting 3/4 side profile. That is why even with a super wide lens it does not mean you can use it full open all the time.. not for me anyway when things are moving fast. I only get to toy with fully wide open lens when subject is quite static or patient enough to allow. Nothing is more frustrating than to get everything right but part of the area of interest just slightly out. Perhaps more experience photographers as something to share over this . I normally stop down to 5.6 (as advice by old school methods) and sacrifice the bokeh when objects are fast moving or do not have time.
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 15 2014, 09:58 AM)
AF on prime lens is not fast (unless it is SSM).
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AF on prime lens is not fast (unless it is SSM).
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hi all, want ask you a question

my friend brought a alpha 6000 which is sg model
so now he download the picture memory play app on iphone
but problem is only able capture picture for preview and can't do remote control the camera.
i check on the review for this app on playtore say that varienty phone model for this remote capture picture on phone
so any solution?
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Anyone has problems using Variable ND filter on SEL1018? Probably mine is a cheap one do not work.. got it to experiment.

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Is Sigma 19mm f2.8 e-mount better than Sony 16-50mm emount in terms of sharpness?

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Aug 15 2014, 10:59 PM)
Is Sigma 19mm f2.8 e-mount better than Sony 16-50mm emount in terms of sharpness?
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Yes, way better. I personally use Sigma 19mm and I love it. Never used a 16-50 before though but I kinda like it for it's small size.

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Anyone has problems using Variable ND filter on SEL1018?  Probably mine is a cheap one do not work.. got it to experiment.
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variable ND, is 2 polarize lens facing each other to cut off light(frequency)by canceling each other out.

it is KNOWN that polarizer doesnt work on ULTRA WIDE ANGLE (20mm and wider on FF, or 15 and wider on APSC)

why doesnt it work? its a physic question that is fixed, no known fix for it yet, might never will.

only way to purely drop huge stop of light is proper ND filter like LEE big stopper.... stacking several piece of 3 stop filter is bad idea too, it will cause (depend on brand) color cast (tint) like purple or red.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 16 2014, 02:46 AM)
variable ND, is 2 polarize lens facing each other to cut off light(frequency)by canceling each other out.

it is KNOWN that polarizer doesnt work on ULTRA WIDE ANGLE (20mm and wider on FF, or 15 and wider on APSC)

why doesnt it work? its a physic question that is fixed, no known fix for it yet, might never will.

only way to purely drop huge stop of light is proper ND filter like LEE big stopper.... stacking several piece of 3 stop filter is bad idea too, it will cause (depend on brand) color cast (tint) like purple or red.
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polarizer depends on the angle of light source for maximum effect. UWA can capture a wide FOV (larger angles), thus some angles above a certain threshold does not give the maximum polarizing effect. That's why u will see some parts are bright.
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Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 15 2014, 09:58 AM)
AF on prime lens is not fast (unless it is SSM).
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i had 2 sigma lens prime
28mm old old more than 20 years old, af with screw mount still could lock pretty fast apart from noisy af.
50mm sigma with hsm seems fast enough for my use which is great.

all depends ur technique of focussing la
point to contrasty area easier to focus, depends on lighting condition, af points (cross type), lens that support AF-D, blah2.
if still cannot then peeking mode all the way. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 16 2014, 11:13 AM)
Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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I am a user of Sigma 19mm. If you want sharpness, go for this lens but bear in mind, it is not exactly a wide angle lens. But If you want wider, you can always go for Sony 16mm (which can be used with the fisheye adapter but sacrifice corner sharpness). Else, go for Samyang fisheye!


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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 16 2014, 11:13 AM)
Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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In terms of price-performance ratio, Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E should top the list, if you're ok with no OSS.
One of my shot taken with Sigma 19mm F2.8 EX DN (not art series).

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 16 2014, 06:38 AM)
polarizer depends on the angle of light source for maximum effect. UWA can capture a wide FOV (larger angles), thus some angles above a certain threshold does not give the maximum polarizing effect. That's why u will see some parts are bright.
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Dear Pay Ng. its not angle of light, but the angle of light wavelength. polarizer works with wavelength, not angle of light dude. wavelength is under Physics.... due to the angle of wavelength travels from the side of the lens angle, the polarizer were unable to cut off the angle of wavelength, hence it did not cut off the light as it suppose to.

as for the Variable ND, u will get X-crosses effect at certain angle on UWA due to the angle of light wavelength escape the polarizing.

do u wan banana?

QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Aug 16 2014, 11:13 AM)
Just got myself the prime portrait/street lens (SEL35F18) paired with my A6000.
Now with all the wide-angle poisons floating around here, so which are the best "budget" wide-angle lenses I should get next?
I was eyeing the Sony 16mm f/2.8 E, Sony 20mm f/2.8 E and Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN E.
Sony 10-18mm f/4 OSS E and Sony Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 E are way out of budget, they almost cost a camera body and I only a newcomer who surely can't fully utilize it to the best outcome.
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note: not aiming at you, but in general, why does ppl think 16-20mm is comparable to a 10-18 ultra wide angle? totally diff thing, totally diff effect, totally diff impact on the photo.


uraki: 16mm also no OSS. sweat.gif

and generally, i dont understand why ppl generalize 16mm as not sharp(corner)? at F2.8, generally all wide angle arent sharp in corner due to distortion via deflection in the lens group. all wide angle requires to stop down to gain corner sharpness... even the famous sharp tokina 11-16 is soft in corners until stopped to F8. even SEL1018 requires to stop down a little more to gain prefect sweet spot.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 16 2014, 03:09 PM)
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Dear Pay Ng. its not angle of light, but the angle of light wavelength. polarizer works with wavelength, not angle of light dude. wavelength is under Physics.... due to the angle of wavelength travels from the side of the lens angle, the polarizer were unable to cut off the angle of wavelength, hence it did not cut off the light as it suppose to.

as for the Variable ND, u will get X-crosses effect at certain angle on UWA due to the angle of light wavelength escape the polarizing.

do u wan banana?
note: not aiming at you, but in general, why does ppl think 16-20mm is comparable to a 10-18 ultra wide angle? totally diff thing, totally diff effect, totally diff impact on the photo.
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just roughly know how polarize filter works...
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Aug 15 2014, 08:43 PM)
35mm and 50mm fast har? ask yourself.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 16 2014, 03:09 PM)
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Dear Pay Ng. its not angle of light, but the angle of light wavelength. polarizer works with wavelength, not angle of light dude. wavelength is under Physics.... due to the angle of wavelength travels from the side of the lens angle, the polarizer were unable to cut off the angle of wavelength, hence it did not cut off the light as it suppose to.

as for the Variable ND, u will get X-crosses effect at certain angle on UWA due to the angle of light wavelength escape the polarizing.

do u wan banana?
u need to get the facts right man. there's no such thing as angle of wavelength. the closest thing to that is every wavelength of light has a different critical angle but we assume that light is just one wavelength, thus when we do third order approximation (real life), aberrations occur, but that is not in this topic.

As for why polarizer does not work with UWA, go read on Malus Law. the formula is I = I0 (cos (x))^2, where x is the angle between the initial light polarization and axis of polarizer and I0 is the initial intensity of light.

Since I0 is constant initially, the only thing affecting the intensity after the light passes through the polarizer is the value x. But then, the cos x can only result in values between 0 and 1 (and by extension, (cos x)^2 is the same too)

That is why you will have varying intensity throughout the frame because the angle is different.


Source: Wikipedia, and I am a Physics student. took this blardy course last semester lol.

p. S. I'm Ray Ng, not Pay
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Does anyone joining the Sony Alpha Super Workshop next week??
http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSuperWorkshop/
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now only ask? haha. just kidding

anyway, i believe most of alpha user may attend this workshop
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Does anyone joining the Sony Alpha Super Workshop next week??
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no cost?
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There is hotel checkin woh! no cost? Sony so generous? If 1000 people go, how they afford?  shocking.gif
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I think need to pay since it's overnight. The website does not show much details other than schedule.

If anyone here registered please share info. Thanks!
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Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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QUOTE(uraki @ Aug 17 2014, 01:02 PM)
Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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Danny Bong (in charge of workshop) confirmed that the whole workshop is free (workshop and accomodation) forgot to ask about the food thou sweat.gif .

as a reminder, bring your Camera(batt and charger), Lenses, Flash(flash workshop), and Tripod (for night shooting).

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Anyone has experience stacking ND filters? I'm talking about stacking circular filters that attached directly on the lens, not the square filters that put on a filter box (I'm not sure if there is any difference for these two methods though). I read people saying some issues when stacking ND filters (flare, glare, color shift etc). And some people said if using high quality ND filters with IR blocking can get good results. I'm not consider variable ND filters because they are not enough stops (3-8 stops). I need 10-15 stops. I was thinking to stack maybe 2 to 3 with 10/3/3 stops filters, so I can have a choice of 10/13/16 stops. Some recommend B+W ND MRC filters, already quite expensive (for 77mm 10 stops ND costs US$149 in bhphoto), but still I don't see it features IR cut.

Please advice and share your comments. Thank you masters! notworthy.gif

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Simple advice, don't.

Not forgetting that stacking that many circular filters will definitely give some heavy vignetting.

And stacking polarisers well definitely give you odd color shifts.

You're better off with variable nd which gives about workable 9 stops. With an added square nd filter in front of it for further reduced stops. Then if you want IR cut, add another filter in front with caution as it could be too thick and cause vignette, which I generally don't recommend. By the way, most sensors already have IR filtering built into them inside the camera, so it's useless to add another one.

Stacking 2 polarisers (not to mention 3) will give you funky cross patterns similar to moiré. Same goes with stacking 2 VNDs.

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 18 2014, 12:34 AM)
Anyone has experience stacking ND filters? I'm talking about stacking circular filters that attached directly on the lens, not the square filters that put on a filter box (I'm not sure if there is any difference for these two methods though). I read people saying some issues when stacking ND filters (flare, glare, color shift etc). And some people said if using high quality ND filters with IR blocking can get good results. I'm not consider variable ND filters because they are not enough stops (3-8 stops). I need 10-15 stops. I was thinking to stack maybe 2 to 3 with 10/3/3 stops filters, so I can have a choice of 10/13/16 stops. Some recommend B+W ND MRC filters, already quite expensive (for 77mm 10 stops ND costs US$149 in bhphoto), but still I don't see it features IR cut.

Please advice and share your comments. Thank you masters!  notworthy.gif
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for circular filters iinm you can get up to 10 stops (Hoya nd400 = 8 2/3 stops / B+@ nd110 = 10 stops / cheap nd1000 filter < rm100 oso have but more pp needed for color cast correction & IQ degradation may also be issue).
stacking may be an option but you may get vignetting , might not be an option for those who shoots ultra wide angles.

another is the IR filter, there are few variants but i donno much about them. sorry

best option is stacking filters on filter holders.
lots of sizes for different purpose and lenses. (cokin A/P series , Z series or 100mm filter, 150mm for Nikon 1424 UWA)
for these stacking is best, more options too (nd , gradual nd, reverse gradual nd, blah2)

my suggestion is go for the last one,
get the 100mm filter series, there are generic brands for filter holders and filters that may cost less than u think biggrin.gif
easier to get filter holder and buy step up rings than to buy circular filters for every filter size.

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Thanks guys for the replies, appreciate that.

For vignetting issue, I was wondering what if I buy a larger filter and then use a step up ring, that way the filter is much larger, so the vignetting may not be seen? Say buying a 77mm filter and put it on a 67mm filter lens.

I also read many saying when they expose longer time, it is easier to get color shift. Is it true that if I do not expose long time, I won't see color shift on good ND filters even if it's a 10 stops filter? I need it because I want to shoot video on the A7S using sLog2 on 25fps, which has a minimum ISO of 3200. When I need to shoot shallow DOF under the sun, I need above 10 stops ND filter in order to shoot at large aperture. Meaning, long shutter exposure is not my concern.

Thanks!

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hi everyone. are you joining the alpha workshop?

http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/AlphaSupe...hasuperworkshop
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Eh, you guys did not register for the alpha super workshop?
Someone from Sony called me this morning for confirmation of attendance.

Sony fb page mentioned it is free and the person called me did not ask for payment so I'm pretty sure the workshop is FOC.
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Danny Bong (in charge of workshop) confirmed that the whole workshop is free (workshop and accomodation) forgot to ask about the food thou  sweat.gif .

as a reminder, bring your Camera(batt and charger), Lenses, Flash(flash workshop), and Tripod (for night shooting).
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 18 2014, 12:34 AM)
Anyone has experience stacking ND filters? I'm talking about stacking circular filters that attached directly on the lens, not the square filters that put on a filter box (I'm not sure if there is any difference for these two methods though). I read people saying some issues when stacking ND filters (flare, glare, color shift etc). And some people said if using high quality ND filters with IR blocking can get good results. I'm not consider variable ND filters because they are not enough stops (3-8 stops). I need 10-15 stops. I was thinking to stack maybe 2 to 3 with 10/3/3 stops filters, so I can have a choice of 10/13/16 stops. Some recommend B+W ND MRC filters, already quite expensive (for 77mm 10 stops ND costs US$149 in bhphoto), but still I don't see it features IR cut.

Please advice and share your comments. Thank you masters!  notworthy.gif
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before that, mind i ask your purpose? sound very fishy and un-practical your method of photography/videography.

also, the information you gotten/read from online is imcomplete and a little misleaded.

from your information, not sure if u are trying to do IR videography or something weird.

lens filter (the circular filter directly on the lens)
square filter (those Cokin, tianya, Lee, Singh-ray, rosco)
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filter(holder) adapter, used to screw on the lens, then used to hold the square holder.

i. before going deeper into ND stuff. lets talk bout the CPL, since ray cant give a proper english explanation that everyone can understand.

the variable ND, is by stacking two cpl, facing each other (meaning the other piece is Flipped) to work, by canceling each other other. by stacking the 3rd piece (flipped opposite of the 2nd flipped piece, noone tested it or no report of this test yet) i assume it will completely block up everything up to crazy amount of stop like 20-30 due to the multiplying effect or it may has no special effect because the 3rd pieve and 1st piece will work the same as following;

as for putting 3 cpl facing the same side, nothing special will happen, the CPL will work at the highest polarizing effect, meaning it will polarize as much as any One of the highest polarizing angle CPL piece. say the 2nd piece is set at 90degree highest polarization, while the other 2piece is at 20degree and 45 degree, the image will polarized at highest of that 90degree. (i tested it)
but, you still can get stop reduction (light cut off) but its kinda pointless as it cause heavy color lost and u get weird color all over the places.

ii. like william said, stacking too much lens filter, will prologue out the front causing vignetting. even by using step up filter, the stepup filter itself already prologue 2mm outwards from the lens, wide angle lens definitely will catch that filter and cause vignetting. but base on your case, wide open aperture will be even worst vignetting.

iii. lets say you are using some magically technique and solved the vignetting issue. stacking many ND filter will work only if you do more research on the ND filter brand itself. u said ND are expensive, for a reason, they have minor color cast for the branded and expensive... B+W 77mm 10 stops ND costs US$149 in bhphoto, thats still under 500myr!, Lee big stopper rm7xx. if u get those cheapo china tianya, or the cheaper alternative cokins or 3rd party lens filter(circular) you going to have bad time trying to fix the color cast on post processing!

i used to have the b+w 10 stop before(sold it and upgrade to Lee). the biggest issue with the filter is, your camera cant even FOCUS (meaning losing ability to focus), nor your (assuming A7s?) will show bright image over the LCD, it will struggle to light gain it of 10 whopping stop! our sensor feed only manage best at 7-8 stops of light lose... but you can try~ because i myself had not testing it with A7s, but general experience lead me to the idea it will struggle to work...

then u have to unscrew to focus, then screw back to shoot, a very tedious and troublesome method, that why a lot ppl end up buying square filters system as it can take out and put back with ease.

my answer is base on experience where spec sheet will never able to show what outcome you will get. experience will let u know before buying the wrong shit and realized it dont work practically.

v. might i ask why 10/13/16 stops of ND? thats a lotttttt! from what i know, a) i used 50F1.4 with only 3 stop and i dont get any issue shooting under daylight assuming you not getting a 30sec exposure, and im not even sure b) i would avoid directly sunlight as the harsh shadow is ugly, i will have some assistance holding a 120x80mm white/translucent reflector to cover the sun, giving a diffused light over subject.

vi. this bugged me a while. IR is a deep subject. you can skip the explanation. the short answer, UV and IR has no effect on digital camera. another long explanation how those 720nm IR filter works.

hence the filter you buy, when it doesnt mention IR filter or UV filter, it doesnt matter, its a old marketing way. that why branded filter company like b+W brand their coating as MRC (multi-resistant coating), not MC-UV like -other china company does.

so, IR is not relevant to filters.

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But, indirectly, it is relevant for filter trying to cut off more then 4 stops. because color cast is caused by the IR light. cheap filter doesnt filter out IR properly hence it got the red/magenta color cast(IR spectrum)... and sadly, no filter company in the world reveal their chemical for the ND effect that tells you the amount of IR cutoff.

so by getting cheap or wrong ND filter, u end up cutting out normal visible light and becomes more and more like IR image due to the escaped IR light through the filter.

i only could say, only Lee Big Stopper has near complete neutral cutoff.


answer more later, back to work first.

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ish.. no view finder... touch screen dont really important to me actually.. find its quite useless
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My daughter had a dress up party. And when she was done with her Snow White costume, she made me take pictures for her.

Here is one taken using A7 coupled with Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art. No processing, cropping etc. JPG straight out from camera. Just thought I'd share.

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QUOTE(HaN18 @ Aug 18 2014, 03:21 PM)
ish.. no view finder... touch screen dont really important to me actually.. find its quite useless
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then get A6000 thumbup.gif

though, i'd prefer a touch screen over EVF on a (relatively) compact camera.

because of no dedicated focus point joystick like dSLRs, the touch screen functions as one. very convenient...

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May I know what kind of adapter you use to connect this lens with A7?
Mind sharing how much u bought the Sigma Art?

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My daughter had a dress up party. And when she was done with her Snow White costume, she made me take pictures for her.

Here is one taken using A7 coupled with Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art. No processing, cropping etc. JPG straight out from camera. Just thought I'd share.

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 18 2014, 06:43 PM)
then get A6000  thumbup.gif

though, i'd prefer a touch screen over EVF on a (relatively) compact camera.

because of no dedicated focus point joystick like dSLRs, the touch screen functions as one. very convenient...
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hmm.. true.. a6000 only have mode dial right? hopefully this year end have something new, like A6100 with A7R dial on the body. smile.gif rclxm9.gif
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hmm.. true.. a6000 only have mode dial right? hopefully this year end have something new, like A6100 with A7R dial on the body. smile.gif  rclxm9.gif
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May I know what kind of adapter you use to connect this lens with A7?
Mind sharing how much u bought the Sigma Art?
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I use the Sony LA-EA4 adaptor. It allows you to use A-mount lenses together with full auto focus functions.

I got the lens for around 27++.00 if I remember correctly. I bought it together with the adaptor.
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before that, mind i ask your purpose? sound very fishy and un-practical your method of photography/videography.

also, the information you gotten/read from online is imcomplete and a little misleaded.

from your information, not sure if u are trying to do IR videography or something weird.

lens filter (the circular filter directly on the lens)
square filter (those Cokin, tianya, Lee, Singh-ray, rosco)
filter holder (use to hold the square filter)
filter(holder) adapter, used to screw on the lens, then used to hold the square holder.

i. before going deeper into ND stuff. lets talk bout the CPL, since ray cant give a proper english explanation that everyone can understand.

the variable ND, is by stacking two cpl, facing each other (meaning the other piece is Flipped) to work, by canceling each other other. by stacking the 3rd piece (flipped opposite of the 2nd flipped piece, noone tested it or no report of this test yet) i assume it will completely block up everything up to crazy amount of stop like 20-30 due to the multiplying effect. or it may has no special effect because the 3rd pieve and 1st piece will work the same as following;

as for putting 3 cpl facing the same side, nothing special will happen, the CPL will work at the highest polarizing effect, meaning it will polarize as much as any One of the highest polarizing angle CPL piece. say the 2nd piece is set at 90degree highest polarization, while the other 2piece is at 20degree and 45 degree, the image will polarized at highest of that 90degree. (i tested it)
but, you still can get stop reduction (light cut off) but its kinda pointless as it cause heavy color lost and u get weird color all over the places.

ii. like william said, stacking too much lens filter, will prologue out the front causing vignetting. even by using step up filter, the stepup filter itself already prologue 2mm outwards from the lens, wide angle lens definitely will catch that filter and cause vignetting. but base on your case, wide open aperture will be even worst vignetting.

iii. lets say you are using some magically technique and solved the vignetting issue. stacking many ND filter will work only if you do more research on the ND filter brand itself. u said ND are expensive, for a reason, they have minor color cast for the branded and expensive... B+W 77mm 10 stops ND costs US$149 in bhphoto, thats still under 500myr!, Lee big stopper rm7xx. if u get those cheapo china tianya, or the cheaper alternative cokins or 3rd party lens filter(circular) you going to have bad time trying to fix the color cast on post processing!

i used to have the b+w 10 stop before(sold it and upgrade to Lee). the biggest issue with the filter is, your camera cant even FOCUS (meaning losing ability to focus), nor your (assuming A7s?) will show bright image over the LCD, it will struggle to light gain it of 10 whopping stop! our sensor feed only manage best at 7-8 stops of light lose... but you can try~ because i myself had not testing it with A7s, but general experience lead me to the idea it will struggle to work...

then u have to unscrew to focus, then screw back to shoot, a very tedious and troublesome method, that why a lot ppl end up buying square filters system as it can take out and put back with ease.

my answer is base on experience where spec sheet will never able to show what outcome you will get. experience will let u know before buying the wrong shit and realized it dont work practically.

v. might i ask why 10/13/16 stops of ND? thats a lotttttt! from what i know, a) i used 50F1.4 with only 3 stop and i dont get any issue shooting under daylight assuming you not getting a 30sec exposure, and im not even sure  b) i would avoid directly sunlight as the harsh shadow is ugly, i will have some assistance holding a 120x80mm white/translucent reflector to cover the sun, giving a diffused light over subject.

vi. this bugged me a while. IR is a deep subject. you can skip the explanation. the short answer, UV and IR has no effect on digital camera. another long explanation how those 720nm IR filter works.

hence the filter you buy, when it doesnt mention IR filter or UV filter, it doesnt matter, its a old marketing way. that why branded filter company like b+W brand their coating as MRC (multi-resistant coating), not MC-UV like -other china company does.

so, IR is not relevant to filters.

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But, indirectly, it is relevant for filter trying to cut off more then 4 stops. because color cast is caused by the IR light. cheap filter doesnt filter out IR properly hence it got the red/magenta color cast(IR spectrum)... and sadly, no filter company in the world reveal their chemical for the ND effect that tells you the amount of IR cutoff.

so by getting cheap or wrong ND filter, u end up cutting out normal visible light and becomes more and more like IR image due to the escaped IR light through the filter.

i only could say, only Lee Big Stopper has near complete neutral cutoff.
answer more later, back to work first.
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Thank you so much for your reply, really appreciate that. notworthy.gif

I am looking to shoot video on the A7S with sLog2 profile, which has a limitation of using minimum ISO 3200. Since shooting video with good motion blur, we utilize some sort of "double" rule; that is, when shooting 25fps video, we must shoot with shutter speed of 1/50. And this 25fps is the best quality on video for the camera. Now I imagine I may need to get shallow DOF under bright sunlight some day. That case, on ISO 3200 and shutter speed 1/50 (these two no choice, minimum i could use), how many stops of ND I need? I tested on shooting at ISO 200, shutter 1/50, the aperture goes as small as F22 in order to get a correct exposure. Now imagine I need to get a DOF that required to shoot on F1.4. In order to shoot sLog2, ISO must be minimum at 3200, which is 4 stops. Then, I need to enlarge aperture from F22 to F1.4, which is 8 stops. So you see, I need 8+4 = 12 stops ND in order to get that video shot. It's a headache, yes! And I have little to no experience on using ND filters since before this, I only shot videos with video camcorders with built in ND filters and there is no crazy min ISO 3200 requirement.

So you see, my main intention is to shoot video, so I'll be seeing bright image on LCD (and the camera sensor), not needed to shoot "in the darkness of LCD screen" as I'm not use it for silky water still photo shoot.

btw, I'm not so much into wide angle. I guess getting to 24mm should be the max need for me, not any wider.

I asked the BHPhoto, they recommend me to get one 10 stop ND, follow by maybe a 0.9ND(3 stops) or a 1.8ND (6 stops) B+W MRC ND filters, they said they had experience stacking them before.
From the below link, it showed that B+W and Heliopan have similar quality, Tiffen is lack of contrast and very heavy color cast, while Singh-Ray is the best performer but it's very expensive.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews...ity-Filter.aspx

My questions are:
1. Regarding vignetting. If I stack just two filters, will it be ok? I am thinking, if I buy a bigger size filter, say my lens is 67mm but I bought a 77mm filter instead (by using step down ring), will that solve the vignetting issue?

2. When stacking NDs, is there a difference between square and circular filters? Is this the very same issue of vignetting, therefore using square filters can get better results simply because they are usually much larger than lens filter thread and also the distance between filters are closer?

3. I think it's best to get variable ND filter, it's cheap and flexible. However, from many reviews, the very end of the filter are totally unusable as heavy X factor and vignetting will come in. I guess those popular 2-8 stops can only give me less than 7 stops. However, I really wish to have the flexibility of having different level of ND. So I really wish to achieve it by stacking filters, say to get a 0.9ND (3 stops), a 1.8ND (6 stops) and a 3.0ND (10 stops), then I have the flexibility of 3, 6, 9, 10, 13, 16 stops ND by just stacking two filters. Do you think this is a good idea? As if the above theory (by using a larger size filter to overcome vignetting issue of stacking filters).

4. Regarding color cast issue. Since I'm not using it to shoot long exposure still image that LCD can't see a thing and sensor can't detect much, but shooting video that actually LCD and sensor can see a normal image, the camera's auto WB should work just fine right? Or worst case I just custom WB it after putting on the filter. So if this is correct, then I don't have to worry about color cast issue on filter selection right? I just need to look for filter that is sharp and high contrast. If this is the case, I think B+W and Heliopan (according to the review I posted above) should be best mid price range choice. And among these two, B+W is cheaper, so that become the best choice.

Please advice. Thank you very much! notworthy.gif

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Thank you so much for your reply, really appreciate that.  notworthy.gif

I am looking to shoot video on the A7S with sLog2 profile, which has a limitation of using minimum ISO 3200. Since shooting video with good motion blur, we utilize some sort of "double" rule; that is, when shooting 25fps video, we must shoot with shutter speed of 1/50. And this 25fps is the best quality on video for the camera. Now I imagine I may need to get shallow DOF under bright sunlight some day. That case, on ISO 3200 and shutter speed 1/50 (these two no choice, minimum i could use), how many stops of ND I need? I tested on shooting at ISO 200, shutter 1/50, the aperture goes as small as F22 in order to get a correct exposure. Now imagine I need to get a DOF that required to shoot on F1.4. In order to shoot sLog2, ISO must be minimum at 3200, which is 4 stops. Then, I need to enlarge aperture from F22 to F1.4, which is 8 stops. So you see, I need 8+4 = 12 stops ND in order to get that video shot. It's a headache, yes! And I have little to no experience on using ND filters since before this, I only shot videos with video camcorders with built in ND filters and there is no crazy min ISO 3200 requirement.

So you see, my main intention is to shoot video, so I'll be seeing bright image on LCD (and the camera sensor), not needed to shoot "in the darkness of LCD screen" as I'm not use it for silky water still photo shoot.

btw, I'm not so much into wide angle. I guess getting to 24mm should be the max need for me, not any wider.

I asked the BHPhoto, they recommend me to get one 10 stop ND, follow by maybe a 0.9ND(3 stops) or a 1.8ND (6 stops) B+W MRC ND filters, they said they had experience stacking them before. 
From the below link, it showed that B+W and Heliopan have similar quality, Tiffen is lack of contrast and very heavy color cast, while Singh-Ray is the best performer but it's very expensive.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews...ity-Filter.aspx

Please advice. Thank you very much! notworthy.gif
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im not familiar with Slog2 system, so, i wouldnt know how to get around it. sorry. at first i had a assumption that you doing IR video, because it has very similar case.

to be honest, you're going to do a lot testing on a lot filter before you get to the right ND filter. i lack of the experience to advise how the filter will react and cause what kind of color shift on high iso video when stacked more then 2 ND filters. iso itself will struggle and might read the wrong color. this doesnt worry me, what really worries me is when the stop are so high, the AF refuse to work (even contrast detect)... and the feed to LCD may turn pitch black too. not sure with A7s, but the last best sensor was the sony 24mp turn black display at 10stop(lee big stopper) facing the sun (sunset shot)

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My questions are:
1. Regarding vignetting. If I stack just two filters, will it be ok? I am thinking, if I buy a bigger size filter, say my lens is 67mm but I bought a 77mm filter instead (by using step down ring), will that solve the vignetting issue?


if its on 24mm, i dont know which 24mm its going to be, i assumed its not sony since sony doesnt has any F1.4 24mm. the step up filter doesnt do any good. because each lens is design differently and the requirement of filter clearance are diff. but please do consider square/holder system. There are holder system are design to avoid vignetting for UWA(with few condition too).

other case is, vignetting is a big subject, you might avoided filter vignetting entirely(not sure the correct word to use it), but u cant avoid a very natural soft vignetting that cause by F1.4, even without filter. so, you will required to do some post processing towards it, or, leave it alone since natural vignetting is kinda nice too, it helps to pop the subject in center.

lets Assume you are using 35mm, i will say you are safe from filter vignetting, but the natural F1.4 vignetting will still occur.

*correction, when we/i mention filter vignetting, i'm assuming a hard black mark on 4 side of the image even at F8. meaning the filter used prologue into the filter clearance. not the natural vignetting cause by the barrel itself.

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2. When stacking NDs, is there a difference between square and circular filters? Is this the very same issue of vignetting, therefore using square filters can get better results simply because  they are usually much larger than lens filter thread and also the distance between filters are closer?


before getting out of hand, lets use the word "screw on filter" circular may lead to diff misunderstanding type of 'effect' filter.
The answer would be simple, some branded holder filter system are designed to work with UWA. hence, its pretty much 'safe' to use. for example, the LEE holder, the adapter ring has 2 type, UWA adapter and standard adapter. the UWA adapter will bring/pull/push/???? the holder backwards, giving more clearance at the front. (try google it)

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3. I think it's best to get variable ND filter, it's cheap and flexible. However, from many reviews, the very end of the filter are totally unusable as heavy X factor and vignetting will come in. I guess those popular 2-8 stops can only give me less than 7 stops. However, I really wish to have the flexibility of having different level of ND. So I really wish to achieve it by stacking filters, say to get a 0.9ND (3 stops), a 1.8ND (6 stops) and a 3.0ND (10 stops), then I have the flexibility of 3, 6, 9, 10, 13, 16 stops ND by just stacking two filters. Do you think this is a good idea? As if the above theory (by using a larger size filter to overcome vignetting issue of stacking filters).


The crisscross effect happen in UWA and at certain degree of the VND filter (turn-able), usually happens when you overturn till the max at 9 stops. i wouldnt recommend it for your usage, because it will introduce a lot of new possible issue/problems along the way. but if you insist, Do Not Buy ANY Brands of VND.... except, LightCraft Workshop. LCW. dato lee chong wei filter. hehehehe joke aside. it is known as the BEST and mother of VND. very pricey thou. its like buying two B+W KSM CPL MRC Nano filter. close to 1k for the 77mm pro version. sweat.gif thinking to upgrade my version I to version II for a long long time, but pocket empty... and btw, LCW has came out with a 100mm square VND (design for Lee square CPL holder), and i have totally no idea how it works... i suspect its a linear PL.

sadly to tell you,... the limitation of square holder to work on UWA is maximun of stackable filter are TWO...

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4. Regarding color cast issue. Since I'm not using it to shoot long exposure still image that LCD can't see a thing and sensor can't detect much, but shooting video that actually LCD and sensor can see a normal image, the camera's auto WB should work just fine right? Or worst case I just custom WB it after putting on the filter. So if this is correct, then I don't have to worry about color cast issue on filter selection right? I just need to look for filter that is sharp and high contrast. If this is the case, I think B+W and Heliopan (according to the review I posted above) should be best mid price range choice. And among these two, B+W is cheaper, so that become the best choice.


color case happen when u stack certain resin filter aka Square type and certain brands... no matter its long or short exposure, the color cast will be there, its the issue of that chemical used, the ability to reduce visible light may be incomplete leaving certain type of light escape through. this you really have to try it out yourself. so you gotta make many photographer friends to see who has the b+w ND1000 and borrow to test it.


btw, there are many terms to ND, some put 10stop or ND1000, or 3.0. you will need to read up a little how they catagories them. the 3.0 actually means 10 stop, they calculate by 0.3 as 1 stop, hence 3.0 is 10 stop. the 1000x also mean 10 stop, but im not sure how they calculate it.

.... now.... come to settle your problem, F1.4@3200 with 1/50 at bright day light. honestly... stacking 2 ND filter isnt such great idea as it will create a lot limitation especially when using more then 10stops. my best advise, may sound very absurd so i apologies first, but, you can use a single 10stop, and not sure if its possible, coz i dont know its a controlled video environment or chasing around actual day wedding shoot with is not within your power to control, you can try choosing the right time/moment of the day when the sun isnt that harsh, eg early morning. but if its uncontrollable then sorry i dont know how to advise you. but i hope my explanation will clear up some doubt and question you had.

btw, it is okay for you to explain what/how slog2 works? maybe we can refine a solution from there.

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Actually, for your issue, this is what I believe a variable ND is designed to take care of.

Stacking more filters in front will eventually degrade your final output anyway, no matter how expensive they are.

You just have to work around the limitations in the best possible manner.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 19 2014, 02:38 AM)
im not familiar with Slog2 system, so, i wouldnt know how to get around it. sorry. at first i had a assumption that you doing IR video, because it has very similar case.

to be honest, you're going to do a lot testing on a lot filter before you get to the right ND filter. i lack of the experience to advise how the filter will react and cause what kind of color shift on high iso video when stacked more then 2 ND filters. iso itself will struggle and might read the wrong color. this doesnt worry me, what really worries me is when the stop are so high, the AF refuse to work (even contrast detect)... and the feed to LCD may turn pitch black too. not sure with A7s, but the last best sensor was the sony 24mp turn black display at 10stop(lee big stopper) facing the sun (sunset shot)
if its on 24mm, i dont know which 24mm its going to be, i assumed its not sony since sony doesnt has any F1.4 24mm. the step up filter doesnt do any good. because each lens is design differently and the requirement of filter clearance are diff. but please do consider square/holder system. There are holder system are design to avoid vignetting for UWA(with few condition too).

other case is, vignetting is a big subject, you might avoided filter vignetting entirely(not sure the correct word to use it), but u cant avoid a very natural soft vignetting that cause by F1.4, even without filter. so, you will required to do some post processing towards it, or, leave it alone since natural vignetting is kinda nice too, it helps to pop the subject in center.

lets Assume you are using 35mm, i will say you are safe from filter vignetting, but the natural F1.4 vignetting will still occur.

*correction, when we/i mention filter vignetting, i'm assuming a hard black mark on 4 side of the image even at F8. meaning the filter used prologue into the filter clearance. not the natural vignetting cause by the barrel itself.
before getting out of hand, lets use the word "screw on filter" circular may lead to diff misunderstanding type of 'effect' filter.
The answer would be simple, some branded holder filter system are designed to work with UWA. hence, its pretty much 'safe' to use. for example, the LEE holder, the adapter ring has 2 type, UWA adapter and standard adapter. the UWA adapter will bring/pull/push/???? the holder backwards, giving more clearance at the front. (try google it)
The crisscross effect happen in UWA and at certain degree of the VND filter (turn-able), usually happens when you overturn till the max at 9 stops. i wouldnt recommend it for your usage, because it will introduce a lot of new possible issue/problems along the way. but if you insist, Do Not Buy ANY Brands of VND.... except, LightCraft Workshop. LCW. dato lee chong wei filter. hehehehe joke aside. it is known as the BEST and mother of VND. very pricey thou. its like buying two B+W KSM CPL MRC Nano filter. close to 1k for the 77mm pro version.  sweat.gif thinking to upgrade my version I to version II for a long long time, but pocket empty... and btw, LCW has came out with a 100mm square VND (design for Lee square CPL holder), and i have totally no idea how it works... i suspect its a linear PL.

sadly to tell you,... the limitation of square holder to work on UWA is maximun of stackable filter are TWO...
color case happen when u stack certain resin filter aka Square type and certain brands... no matter its long or short exposure, the color cast will be there, its the issue of that chemical used, the ability to reduce visible light may be incomplete leaving certain type of light escape through. this you really have to try it out yourself. so you gotta make many photographer friends to see who has the b+w ND1000 and borrow to test it.
btw, there are many terms to ND, some put 10stop or ND1000, or 3.0. you will need to read up a little how they catagories them. the 3.0 actually means 10 stop, they calculate by 0.3 as 1 stop, hence 3.0 is 10 stop. the 1000x also mean 10 stop, but im not sure how they calculate it.

.... now.... come to settle your problem, F1.4@3200 with 1/50 at bright day light. honestly... stacking 2 ND filter isnt such great idea as it will create a lot limitation especially when using more then 10stops. my best advise, may sound very absurd so i apologies first, but, you can use a single 10stop, and not sure if its possible, coz i dont know its a controlled video environment or chasing around actual day wedding shoot with is not within your power to control, you can try choosing the right time/moment of the day when the sun isnt that harsh, eg early morning. but if its uncontrollable then sorry i dont know how to advise you. but i hope my explanation will clear up some doubt and question you had.

btw, it is okay for you to explain what/how slog2 works? maybe we can refine a solution from there.
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Appreciate your sharing very much. Thank you so much for your time!

sLog2 is simply a flat profile designed by Sony. Flat profile means color is highly disaturated and sharpness is normally turned way down, so that minimum artifact was put onto the image. This way the image has broader room for color grading in post production. Different manufacturers has different name for this flat profile, for instance Blackmagic simply called it the Film profile.

You can see an example from this video testing on A7S's sLog2 before and after color grading on sLog2.
https://vimeo.com/groups/243026/videos/103097236
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so, is it possible to use neutral color profile(reduce contrast, saturation to flat), setting dro to level 3 (to lower contrast even more) and adjust contrast/saturation accordingly? and since at such low iso at 100, it shouldnt be any noise issue by dro gain? i think it might work since if you are doing color grading later, it should cause any big issue since its shot in low iso.

edit: then u wont have issue needing a 12stop filters.... a 10 stop will do just fine? then u might only need a 6 stop ND, then your AF might just work without problems and LCD feed maybe viewable?

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 19 2014, 02:52 AM)
Actually, for your issue, this is what I believe a variable ND is designed to take care of.

Stacking more filters in front will eventually degrade your final output anyway, no matter how expensive they are.

You just have to work around the limitations in the best possible manner.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 19 2014, 03:56 AM)
so, is it possible to use neutral color profile(reduce contrast, saturation to flat), setting dro to level 3 (to lower contrast even more) and adjust contrast/saturation accordingly? and since at such low iso at 100, it shouldnt be any noise issue by dro gain? i think it might work since if you are doing color grading later, it should cause any big issue since its shot in low iso.

edit: then u wont have issue needing a 12stop filters.... a 10 stop will do just fine? then u might only need a 6 stop ND, then your AF might just work without problems and LCD feed maybe viewable?
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Yes, you are right. That's the workaround if putting a nasty high stops ND degrades too much IQ, there is no point to shoot with sLog on that situation since most of the time, we do not need narrow DOF on bright sun for movies anyway. laugh.gif

The A7S camera sensor's native ISO is 3200, so the noise although still appears to be more than that of on ISO 100, still pretty clean and manageable with lots of details. To shoot at sensor's native ISO is to bring out the most data (details) from the sensor. All "movie cameras" that shoot flat profile recommend users to shoot at its native ISO.

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this is the part im getting confuse. when u mention native iso3200, it means the highest native is 3200 right? because below that, those 1600 down to 200 is considered native iso too. right? need albert to verify this...

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this is the part im getting confuse. when u mention native iso3200, it means the highest native is 3200 right? because below that, those 1600 down to 200 is considered native iso too. right? need albert to verify this...
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Not like that. Every sensor has its native ISO value, just ONE value only.
On video cameras, filmmakers are more keen to know this value, so that they can shoot with the most data out of the sensor.
On still cameras, photographers do not care about this value, since many ISOs on a camera performs very well for still image. (video image is harder to produce, just imagine you need the camera to shoot 25 frames per second for a continuing....30 minutes? Not an easy job for the camera).
if i remember correctly, I think GH4's native ISO is 800. While on a Nikon D800, its native ISO is 160. Very different approach for a movie-oriented GH4 and a still oriented D800. While most (or all?) Canon DSLR's native ISO is 100.

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I had made a decision to buy A6000 in september (waiting price drop a little first), but then Sony launch A5100, really mess me up doh.gif

A5100 pro :
1. 180" articulated screen for selfie
2. TOUCHSCREEN !!! (very important)
3. slightly cheaper at 700 usd (not important)

Con:
1. no EVF
2. slightly slower FPS (not really important)
3. smaller size

Why damn SONY always launching more camera body than lens ?!

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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Aug 19 2014, 12:16 PM)
I had made a decision to buy A6000 in september (waiting price drop a little first), but then Sony launch A5100, really mess me up doh.gif

A5100 pro :
1. 180" articulated screen for selfie
2. TOUCHSCREEN !!! (very important)
3. slightly cheaper at 700 usd (not important)

Con:
1. no EVF
2. slightly slower FPS (not really important)
3. smaller size

Why damn SONY always launching more camera body than lens ?!
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No mode dial as well.
Wonder if it has the electronic level? A6000 dun have
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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Aug 19 2014, 12:16 PM)
I had made a decision to buy A6000 in september (waiting price drop a little first), but then Sony launch A5100, really mess me up doh.gif

A5100 pro :
1. 180" articulated screen for selfie
2. TOUCHSCREEN !!! (very important)
3. slightly cheaper at 700 usd (not important)

Con:
1. no EVF
2. slightly slower FPS (not really important)
3. smaller size

Why damn SONY always launching more camera body than lens ?!
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A6k vs A5100
Evf, when need time if don't have, will regret
Hotshoe, when need time if don't have, will regret.
Touch screen? Fun for first 3 month, after that never border coz can't use during the phase detect mode af-c + multiaf. Turn the wheel dail scroll faster in review mode the touch scroll.
Selfie lcd? Settle with NFC remote app.

Others consider not that influenced to purchase decision.

Hope my info help you make up your mind kekekeke
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A6k vs A5100
Evf, when need time if don't have, will regret
Hotshoe, when need time if don't have, will regret.
Touch screen? Fun for first 3 month, after that never border coz can't use during the phase detect mode af-c + multiaf. Turn the wheel dail scroll faster in review mode the touch scroll.
Selfie lcd? Settle with NFC remote app.

Others consider not that influenced to purchase decision.

Hope my info help you make up your mind kekekeke
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hotshoe is not important for me,will never buy flash.
touch screen important cause i read lots of review complaining A6000 hard to set focus point (in 179 point) and wifi/nfc connection need password, need to scroll till u die...
Selfie lcd - use hp need few steps to connect n load vs just flip the screen, and im a solo backpacker,so selfie lcd kind of important for me...

So in the end , EVF vs Touchscreen+Selfie LCD, im more towards touchscreen and fully circulated screen sweat.gif

but A5100 start selling in mid September, dont know when wil reach malaysia and i need it before end of september... so in the end i will buy A6000 i guess tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Aug 19 2014, 12:16 PM)
I had made a decision to buy A6000 in september (waiting price drop a little first), but then Sony launch A5100, really mess me up doh.gif

A5100 pro :
1. 180" articulated screen for selfie
2. TOUCHSCREEN !!! (very important)
3. slightly cheaper at 700 usd (not important)

Con:
1. no EVF
2. slightly slower FPS (not really important)
3. smaller size

Why damn SONY always launching more camera body than lens ?!
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NO DIAL!!!! maybe september launch a6100

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Does anyone here own the RX100 M3? Seems like theres good reviews all over. MIGHT consider moving to that since I find my A77 abit too bulky. But I know that I'll definitely miss my A77. sad.gif
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Does anyone here own the RX100 M3? Seems like theres good reviews all over. MIGHT consider moving to that since I find my A77 abit too bulky. But I know that I'll definitely miss my A77. sad.gif
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i got a RX100 MK2, while the image quality cant match my NEX. Its so small that i can bring it to everywhere. Literally everywhere.

But will not sell the NEX thou.. Love It!
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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Aug 19 2014, 01:58 PM)
hotshoe is not important for me,will never buy flash.
touch screen important cause i read lots of review complaining A6000 hard to set focus point (in 179 point) and wifi/nfc connection need password, need to scroll till u die...
Selfie lcd - use hp need few steps to connect n load vs just flip the screen, and im a solo backpacker,so selfie lcd kind of important for me...

So in the end , EVF vs Touchscreen+Selfie LCD, im more towards touchscreen and fully circulated screen sweat.gif

but A5100 start selling in mid September, dont know when wil reach malaysia and i need it before end of september... so in the end i will buy A6000 i guess  tongue.gif
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hahaha u got your answer of what u need already icon_rolleyes.gif you wont regret with A6k, the flash u say wont buy now,.... eventually 2-3 month later u will start asking here which flash is good for your A6k hahaha its been a repeat pattern in Sony thread.

but i need to correct something for u, i dont know where you read the selectable 179 point. the 179 points is not selectable. you only can select the 25 contrast AF point, the 179 point will asssit the 25 point from behind. no such thing as scroll till you die. A6k user please verify this. as far as i know (from the prototype model that i was testing...)
the 179 assist af point only work in 2 AF area mode, both require to be in AF-C. one is the Wide area AF, one is Zone area AF. the zone is group into 9 squares... and its damn easy to navigate in the 5x5 box area. this was my finding during the test. the 179 will assist in the zone 9 square mode.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 19 2014, 05:03 PM)
hahaha u got your answer of what u need already  icon_rolleyes.gif you wont regret with A6k, the flash u say wont buy now,.... eventually 2-3 month later u will start asking here which flash is good for your A6k hahaha its been a repeat pattern in Sony thread.

but i need to correct something for u, i dont know where you read the selectable 179 point.  the 179 points is not selectable. you only can select the 25 contrast AF point, the 179 point will asssit the 25 point from behind. no such thing as scroll till you die. A6k user please verify this. as far as i know (from the prototype model that i was testing...)
the 179 assist af point only work in 2 AF area mode, both require to be in AF-C. one is the Wide area AF, one is Zone area AF. the zone is group into 9 squares... and its damn easy to navigate in the 5x5 box area. this was my finding during the test. the 179 will assist in the zone 9 square mode.
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i have been using sony nex 3 for around 2-3 years now, and i still have no plan to buy a flash.

and about focus point, im not sure where i read it, but i did remember at least 2 reviews mention about this, something related to cant set focus point u want easily and a touchscreen will able to solve this problem.

And scroll till u die part is for wifi password / fb email and pw etc.

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Sony Malaysia shared the Alpha Super Workshop info again on fb page an hour ago, so I think there are seats still available.

Those who yet to register fast grab lo!
https://www.sony.com.my/AlphaSuperWorkshop/

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 19 2014, 05:03 PM)
hahaha u got your answer of what u need already  icon_rolleyes.gif you wont regret with A6k, the flash u say wont buy now,.... eventually 2-3 month later u will start asking here which flash is good for your A6k hahaha its been a repeat pattern in Sony thread.

but i need to correct something for u, i dont know where you read the selectable 179 point.  the 179 points is not selectable. you only can select the 25 contrast AF point, the 179 point will asssit the 25 point from behind. no such thing as scroll till you die. A6k user please verify this. as far as i know (from the prototype model that i was testing...)
the 179 assist af point only work in 2 AF area mode, both require to be in AF-C. one is the Wide area AF, one is Zone area AF. the zone is group into 9 squares... and its damn easy to navigate in the 5x5 box area. this was my finding during the test. the 179 will assist in the zone 9 square mode.
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ed, only us who come from A-mount will appreciate external flash. To us, EVF and hotshoe come 1st. To them as come from p&s, they will want the touchscreen, we would prefer direct straight forward buttons or dials for instant access to fucntions. Dont push them too hard. tongue.gif
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Sony Malaysia shared the Alpha Super Workshop info again on fb page an hour ago, so I think there are seats still available.

Those who yet to register fast grab lo!
https://www.sony.com.my/AlphaSuperWorkshop/
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ed, only us who come from A-mount will appreciate external flash. To us, EVF and hotshoe come 1st. To them as come from p&s, they will want the touchscreen, we would prefer direct straight forward buttons or dials for instant access to fucntions. Dont push them too hard. tongue.gif
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ed, only us who come from A-mount will appreciate external flash. To us, EVF and hotshoe come 1st. To them as come from p&s, they will want the touchscreen, we would prefer direct straight forward buttons or dials for instant access to fucntions. Dont push them too hard. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Aug 19 2014, 04:59 PM)
i got a RX100 MK2, while the image quality cant match my NEX. Its so small that i can bring it to everywhere. Literally everywhere.

But will not sell the NEX thou.. Love It!
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Exactly. It's so portable. That attracts me. Mind posting some sample shots taken from your RX100? Have you tried the Mark3? Is the new lens any better?
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Feedback or Opinion required ..

Shall i go for 70400G SSM II  or

70200G  + TC 2x

thinking of birding and sports
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I think Tc degrades the image quality. I would go for 70400 if I know that I need that range.
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Exactly. It's so portable. That attracts me. Mind posting some sample shots taken from your RX100? Have you tried the Mark3? Is the new lens any better?
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u can check it out here.. some great photo by forumers

---> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2377899 <---
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u can check it out here.. some great photo by forumers

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Hi, going completely out of topic, though related to us all. What camera bag would you recommend for 2 A7 bodies, about 4 lenses and other items like tripod, flash, batteries, charger etc? How much would you budget for safeguarding your heavy investment against the dangers of the world?
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QUOTE(mikeis18 @ Aug 20 2014, 11:34 AM)
Hi, going completely out of topic, though related to us all. What camera bag would you recommend for 2 A7 bodies, about 4 lenses and other items like tripod, flash, batteries, charger etc? How much would you budget for safeguarding your heavy investment against the dangers of the world?
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wah.. 2 a7?? thats really heavy to walk around..
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user posted imageDSC03231 by bdrc, on Flickr

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Would've been better if you shot this wide open icon_rolleyes.gif
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hello guys...i wanted to ask opinion regarding Sony A6000..i planning to try Mitakon 50mm f0.95 on it to making a videography..is it ok?
before the idea came,i was planning to take Canon 70D..can you give me a little idea and advice?thank you smile.gif
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Hi, going completely out of topic, though related to us all. What camera bag would you recommend for 2 A7 bodies, about 4 lenses and other items like tripod, flash, batteries, charger etc? How much would you budget for safeguarding your heavy investment against the dangers of the world?
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depend you are looking for a 'walkaround' bag like a sling, quick access backpack(zip open from side) or waist bag.... or a 'transportation' bag, for full secure travel purpose, backpack or a trolley system.

everyone value bag differently. some willing to grab rm600-800 for a nice backpack, some willing to pay only 300-400 for something similar. my case, i always end grabbing cheapest offer i could get my hand on, then put some DIY modification to strengthen it. smile.gif

QUOTE(feathakim @ Aug 20 2014, 05:11 PM)
hello guys...i wanted to ask opinion regarding Sony A6000..i planning to try Mitakon 50mm f0.95 on it to making a videography..is it ok?
before the idea came,i was planning to take Canon 70D..can you give me a little idea and advice?thank you smile.gif
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how well are you in videography world? A6000 has advantage on supported AF lens, which give u a wonderful face detection on whole frame. as for manual focus lens, they take advantage on Peaking Mode.
a 0.95 is very shallow and requires a lotttttt of practice to master this lens.

but honestly, any combo of gear wouldnt make the real impact in videography... at some point you will require good 'stabilizing rig' and learn plenty of good post processing later. smile.gif and of coz a good directing in storyboard.
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QUOTE(mikeis18 @ Aug 20 2014, 11:34 AM)
Hi, going completely out of topic, though related to us all. What camera bag would you recommend for 2 A7 bodies, about 4 lenses and other items like tripod, flash, batteries, charger etc? How much would you budget for safeguarding your heavy investment against the dangers of the world?
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You want to consider Sony LCS-BP2? I still have one brand new in packing! tongue.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...&t=3053389&st=0

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Hi, going completely out of topic, though related to us all. What camera bag would you recommend for 2 A7 bodies, about 4 lenses and other items like tripod, flash, batteries, charger etc? How much would you budget for safeguarding your heavy investment against the dangers of the world?
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Lowepro Flipside Sport 15L
http://shashinki.com/shop/lowepro-flipside...ay-p-14849.html

Lowepro Transit 350
http://shashinki.com/shop/lowepro-transit-...ey-p-17162.html

Lowepro DSLR Video Fastpack 350
http://shashinki.com/shop/lowepro-dslr-vid...ck-p-16615.html

Lowepro Urban Reporter 250 (can fit everything except tripod)
http://shashinki.com/shop/lowepro-urban-re...ck-p-18219.html


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hehe... pm best price tongue.gif
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Was thinking shouldnt use the tree as background for this one, and should get a shot for flipping the hair up as well.
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Aug 20 2014, 05:41 PM)

how well are you in videography world? A6000 has advantage on supported AF lens, which give u a wonderful face detection on whole frame. as for manual focus lens, they take advantage on Peaking Mode.
a 0.95 is very shallow and requires a lotttttt of practice to master this lens.

but honestly, any combo of gear wouldnt make the real impact in videography... at some point you will require good 'stabilizing rig' and learn plenty of good post processing later. smile.gif and of coz a good directing in storyboard.
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ok thank you..actually not a video like a film..haha..just a simple video..
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Whats the filter i should use to just protect the lens? i know lens hood functions the same but i just dont trust my self that much >< 35mm btw
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Whats the filter i should use to just protect the lens? i know lens hood functions the same but i just dont trust my self that much >< 35mm btw
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if just want to protect the lens, normal filter will do, thumbup.gif
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top notch filter are, Sony Zeiss (hard to clean, easily scratch, prefect light transmission, boost micro contrast and saturation), Hoya HD (make sure it has HD word, easy to clean, scratch resistant, slightly weaker light transmission), B+W F-Pro, or XS-Pro Nano(xtraslim pro) filters B+W are very easy to clean and scratch resistant, high light transmission), rare occasion you will see Nikon Filters... Marumi have to find a good reliable source, too many fakes.. these are very pricey, but they really do their job well

recently there is a brand Zeiss pop up, not sure if its real or fakes... try do a little research.

other brands, many fakes claim Pro1D coating(from hoya), i tested many, either color cast, or light lost, or degrade quality... end up either go naked or B+W(end up all my lens using b+w)
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if u have budget go for sony zeiss lo, else still have a lot goo brand outside like B&W, HOYA, NISI, MARUMI, ....etc... it very depend on your wallet to take care ur lens,,hope give u good ideal cool.gif
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top notch filter are, Sony Zeiss (hard to clean, easily scratch, prefect light transmission, boost micro contrast and saturation), Hoya HD (make sure it has HD word, easy to clean, scratch resistant, slightly weaker light transmission), B+W F-Pro, or XS-Pro Nano(xtraslim pro) filters B+W are very easy to clean and scratch resistant, high light transmission), rare occasion you will see Nikon Filters... Marumi have to find a good reliable source, too many fakes.. these are very pricey, but they really do their job well

recently there is a brand Zeiss pop up, not sure if its real or fakes... try do a little research.

other brands, many fakes claim Pro1D coating(from hoya), i tested many, either color cast, or light lost, or degrade quality... end up either go naked or B+W(end up all my lens using b+w)
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Thanks for the suggestions notworthy.gif , for now i think B+W really caught my attention. will so some hunting this week for the best deal, cause they tend to jack up the price really high for filters
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hello guys...i wanted to ask opinion regarding Sony A6000..i planning to try Mitakon 50mm f0.95 on it to making a videography..is it ok?
before the idea came,i was planning to take Canon 70D..can you give me a little idea and advice?thank you smile.gif
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The Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 has a stepless, clickless aperture ring, making it ideal for videography. There's a guy who brings it in to Malaysia with 1 year warranty.

However, it is difficult to manually focus if the subject is moving, and if you plan to record a movie you'll need to have very accurate focus or it will be very annoying to watch.
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QUOTE(feathakim @ Aug 20 2014, 05:11 PM)
hello guys...i wanted to ask opinion regarding Sony A6000..i planning to try Mitakon 50mm f0.95 on it to making a videography..is it ok?
before the idea came,i was planning to take Canon 70D..can you give me a little idea and advice?thank you smile.gif
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A6000 is a really good camera, I even put it as the best today if you are looking at lightweight, great image quality, sturdy built quality, reasonable price and rich features.

Your main intention is to shoot video? What are the features most important for you? This is the first question you should ask yourself before picking a camera.

A6000 has reasonably good AF on video, good enough for daily leisure use. If you prefer to shoot manual focus, then peaking is useful tool in it too. Moire still exists, but much improved from older models. If you want best image, shoot 24/25p. Normally when shooting 50/60p, image quality drops. Image quality on video is pretty good. Some of the weakness is that it has no mic input and a rather weak codec. But if you are not that demanding, it's good enough. And furthermore, its still image quality is really good, rich color and nice dynamic range. As for audio, if you want good audio, no DSLR internal mic is good enough. You can always record audio separately with a audio recorder (ie. Zoom H1 is a good choice for low cost and high portability).

I never like Canon's image quality. I think the dynamic range is too weak on both still and video. However, the 70D has a better codec than the A6000. But a better codec doesn't mean better looking image quality. I still prefer the A6000 on this. However, the Canon 70D's hybrid AF system is currently the best in all DSLR on video, no competition. Silky smooth, camcorder-like.

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The Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 has a stepless, clickless aperture ring, making it ideal for videography. There's a guy who brings it in to Malaysia with 1 year warranty.

However, it is difficult to manually focus if the subject is moving, and if you plan to record a movie you'll need to have very accurate focus or it will be very annoying to watch.
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I think one who used to manual focus has no problem doing it in video, I saw a lot of videos shot like that. But ya, F0.95 on APS-C is a challenge as the DOF is quite narrow.
I think the most difficult part when shooting video manual focus is camera shake. Does this lens has OSS? I think no right? That could be the major issue. Unless always shoot with a tripod or standing still.
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 21 2014, 12:34 AM)
A6000 is a really good camera, I even put it as the best today if you are looking at lightweight, great image quality, sturdy built quality, reasonable price and rich features.

Your main intention is to shoot video? What are the features most important for you? This is the first question you should ask yourself before picking a camera.

A6000 has reasonably good AF on video, good enough for daily leisure use. If you prefer to shoot manual focus, then peaking is useful tool in it too. Moire still exists, but much improved from older models. If you want best image, shoot 24/25p. Normally when shooting 50/60p, image quality drops. Image quality on video is pretty good. Some of the weakness is that it has no mic input and a rather weak codec. But if you are not that demanding, it's good enough. And furthermore, its still image quality is really good, rich color and nice dynamic range. As for audio, if you want good audio, no DSLR internal mic is good enough. You can always record audio separately with a audio recorder (ie. Zoom H1 is a good choice for low cost and high portability).

I never like Canon's image quality. I think the dynamic range is too weak on both still and video. However, the 70D has a better codec than the A6000. But a better codec doesn't mean better looking image quality. I still prefer the A6000 on this. However, the Canon 70D's hybrid AF system is currently the best in all DSLR on video, no competition. Silky smooth, camcorder-like.
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thanks for reply and gave a good review and idea of the camera and lens..
so now i need to planning which camera should i get either a6000 or 70D haha..
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thanks for reply and gave a good review and idea of the camera and lens..
so now i need to planning which camera should i get either a6000 or 70D haha..
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You can also consider the just announced Sony A5100. The best part of this new camera is it has pro-grade video codec XAVC-S shooting at 50Mb/s first got it in their high-end A7S.
Wait a few weeks to see how reviews think about this new camera. It is few hundred cheaper than the A6000.

Also, the Olympus EM1 is close to getting some new features with an upcoming firmware update. You can also check that out as its in-camera 5-axis stabilization system is the best in camera history! Put any lens on it and you have that superb stabilization! You can shoot video handheld with an ease of mind. But for now, its current firmware has a rather weak video features. So everyone is eyeing on its new firmware coming this month.

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To answer feathakim's question of what the Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 looks like on video, through the Sony A7S. Shot at F0.95 1/250s.
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I think one who used to manual focus has no problem doing it in video, I saw a lot of videos shot like that. But ya, F0.95 on APS-C is a challenge as the DOF is quite narrow.
I think the most difficult part when shooting video manual focus is camera shake. Does this lens has OSS? I think no right? That could be the major issue. Unless always shoot with a tripod or standing still.
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Hey there guys and gals. It's been a while since I was last here. Seems the family has grown... considerably... large.

It's wonderful that Sony has FINALLY made my greatest dream come true: the FF Nex, though in its current form it's still very much a unattainable luxury for me - unless I sell a kidney or something. Hopefully Sony comes up with an A6 or something for us poor mortals.

That said, I'm now keen on getting a new digital body, especially now that ColorDotCom has closed up shop (*cry*). Eyeing either a cheap second hand Nex6/Nex7 or an A6000, either new of second hand.

So, besides much improved controls, better battery life , faster AF and the xbionz - am I gonna miss much if I skip the A6000? Especially when my last experience with a DSLR was with the venerable A200?

I'm primarily gonna do still photography (landscape, archie, street, product shots, travel) mostly with MF legacy lenses and maybe sometimes with the kit lens or a 35mm prime of some sort (either the Sony 35 or the Zeiss, whichever comes up cheaper on the used market lol) - so "faster AF", "more AF points" and "a control system that isn't buried in menus" aren't really must-haves for me.

I'm looking to spend 4k max, much less if possible - especially as there's the accessories to consider too: batteries, lens-adapters, filtes, straps.

So, old Nex6/7 + cash for extra stuff or A6000?

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Not sure with your previous owned lens, if u plan to stick with A mount, a77 II is just nice timing.

But if your prefer to jump to smaller compact mirrorless group, (your a200 lens will not mount directly, require an adapter) then the best all rounded for money now is the a6000 for around 2.3k with kitlens. The extra money can go for lens like 50mm or a 35mm
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depend you are looking for a 'walkaround' bag like a sling, quick access backpack(zip open from side) or waist bag.... or a 'transportation' bag, for full secure travel purpose, backpack or a trolley system.

everyone value bag differently. some willing to grab rm600-800 for a nice backpack, some willing to pay only 300-400 for something similar. my case, i always end grabbing cheapest offer i could get my hand on, then put some DIY modification to strengthen it. smile.gif
Good point there. I've always preferred a sling type of bag, easy access to my gear. Backpacks don't really appeal to me, cause of the same issue. I'm looking into waist bag as an option now too.

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You want to consider Sony LCS-BP2? I still have one brand new in packing!  tongue.gif

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Thanks for the suggestions bro Silverfire! But I'm not really a backpack fan at the moment... tongue.gif

I already have a Lowepro Even Messenger 250, and it has served me well. Just that it can't support 2 bodies with 4 lenses, even fitting the HVL-F60m into the side pocket is too tight (honestly I never dared to try fitting it in before).

I'm currently fixated on this bag I came across online. Can be sling, and can be waist. Seems durable from a video of it being stomped. Problem price wise, kinda expensive compared to other brands, and that's not including the shipping fees... =_=". Here's the link.



The main reason I want a big bag to store 2 bodies is for event photography. No time to switch lenses sometimes, so I'd rather have one prime and a zoom on separate bodies. The downside of a big bag is that it gets in the way in tight spaces...

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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 21 2014, 12:21 AM)
The Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 has a stepless, clickless aperture ring, making it ideal for videography. There's a guy who brings it in to Malaysia with 1 year warranty.

However, it is difficult to manually focus if the subject is moving, and if you plan to record a movie you'll need to have very accurate focus or it will be very annoying to watch.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Aug 21 2014, 02:59 PM)
Not sure with your previous owned lens, if u plan to stick with A mount, a77 II is just nice timing.

But if your prefer to jump to smaller compact mirrorless group, (your a200 lens will not mount directly, require an adapter) then the best all rounded for money now is the a6000 for around 2.3k with kitlens. The extra money can go for lens like 50mm or a 35mm
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Thanks for the reply. Lenses? Well, I already sold away my Alpha stuff actually (including a 28-135 F4-4.5 Minolta Maxxum I very very dearly miss and would be SO KILLER on an A7) so the only lenses I have left are legacy Nikon AIS stuff and Minolta MF lenses.

As for the A77, I've decided to forgo the big guns this time around - a more compact camera would fit my current needs better IMHO.

Hmm, so an A6000 then. Is it so much an improvement over the older Nex 6?

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Thanks for the reply. Lenses? Well, I already sold away my Alpha stuff actually (including a 28-135 F4-4.5 Minolta Maxxum I very very dearly miss and would be SO KILLER on an A7) so the only lenses I have left are legacy Nikon AIS stuff and Minolta MF lenses.

As for the A77, I've decided to forgo the big guns this time around - a more compact camera would fit my current needs better IMHO.

Hmm, so an A6000 then. Is it so much an improvement over the older Nex 6?
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key improvement, a serious AF speed from phase detect vs nex6. what i mean, u get af speed like a DSLR.
2nd key improvement, WHOLE frame is filled with Phase detect AF points.

this two improvement above will 'throw' other mirrorless ahead by a whole year in AF. meaning now the A6000 (and up coming A5100) has AF capability like a DSLR. which is really really really cool.

not to mention other stuff way ahead of A200, iso up to 6400 clean like iso400 in A200 (high five, im from the same era), crazy burst speed of 11fps, zone focus point selection (selection of 9 af point one time), cool EVF, new hotshoe~ it support wireless flash via F20M, F43M and F60M. peaking for manual focus (youtube for more info) and lot lot more
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here are some update incase you had no recieve update information from Sony (2 person in office dealing with 200+ participant) 2 bus from penang, 4 from KL, and others driving down from seremban-johor to melacca.

Penang, Pickup point 1, Komtar - Maybank.
Penang, Pickup point 2, Juru AutoCity - McD.
Please be punctual, the bus will leave at 5am, so be there before 5am.


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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 21 2014, 01:45 PM)
Hey there guys and gals. It's been a while since I was last here. Seems the family has grown... considerably... large.

It's wonderful that Sony has FINALLY made my greatest dream come true: the FF Nex, though in its current form it's still very much a unattainable luxury for me - unless I sell a kidney or something. Hopefully Sony comes up with an A6 or something for us poor mortals.

That said, I'm now keen on getting a new digital body, especially now that ColorDotCom has closed up shop (*cry*). Eyeing either a cheap second hand Nex6/Nex7 or an A6000, either new of second hand.

So, besides much improved controls,  better battery life , faster AF and the xbionz - am I gonna miss much if I skip the A6000? Especially when my last experience with a DSLR was with the venerable A200?

I'm primarily gonna do still photography (landscape, archie, street, product shots, travel) mostly with MF legacy lenses and maybe sometimes with the kit lens or a 35mm prime of some sort (either the Sony 35 or the Zeiss, whichever comes up cheaper on the used market lol) - so "faster AF", "more AF points"  and "a control system that isn't buried in menus" aren't really must-haves for me.

I'm looking to spend 4k max, much less if possible - especially as there's the accessories to consider too: batteries, lens-adapters, filtes, straps.

So, old Nex6/7 + cash for extra stuff or A6000?
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 21 2014, 01:45 PM)
Hey there guys and gals. It's been a while since I was last here. Seems the family has grown... considerably... large.

It's wonderful that Sony has FINALLY made my greatest dream come true: the FF Nex, though in its current form it's still very much a unattainable luxury for me - unless I sell a kidney or something. Hopefully Sony comes up with an A6 or something for us poor mortals.

That said, I'm now keen on getting a new digital body, especially now that ColorDotCom has closed up shop (*cry*). Eyeing either a cheap second hand Nex6/Nex7 or an A6000, either new of second hand.

So, besides much improved controls,  better battery life , faster AF and the xbionz - am I gonna miss much if I skip the A6000? Especially when my last experience with a DSLR was with the venerable A200?

I'm primarily gonna do still photography (landscape, archie, street, product shots, travel) mostly with MF legacy lenses and maybe sometimes with the kit lens or a 35mm prime of some sort (either the Sony 35 or the Zeiss, whichever comes up cheaper on the used market lol) - so "faster AF", "more AF points"  and "a control system that isn't buried in menus" aren't really must-haves for me.

I'm looking to spend 4k max, much less if possible - especially as there's the accessories to consider too: batteries, lens-adapters, filtes, straps.

So, old Nex6/7 + cash for extra stuff or A6000?
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Ok, so AF is not your concern.

Now the EVF has lower resolution in A6000 then in the Nex 6/7, but it is less lagged, which is good when in low light. The less resolution does not mean less quality, in fact, many said it has better image quality EVF because of less lagged and brighter. I used an A6000 before and I can say the EVF is brilliant, I use it more often than the LCD. Sharp, beautiful color.

Another major advantage in A6000 is better high ISO performance and higher resolution then NEX 6. 24MP vs 16MP is a 40% increase, not small you see. You have better crop option in a higher resolution image. As NEX 7, same 24MP, but ISO performance on A6000 outperformed it definitely.

On shooting video, A6000 image is far cleaner than NEX 6/7, especially on moire. Big improvement. And on video shoot, fast AF is good to have, trust me.

How much is the NEX 6 price difference from A6000? I don't know for today price. However, I highly recommend to get A6000. Get the latest technology, use it for another 10 years no problem. Worth it.
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Nex 6 cost much more than A6000. It would be silly to get Nex 6 now, even a used one
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http://www.lazada.com.my/generic-white-bal...7mm-527670.html
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Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM)
Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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Sounds like it. New E mount lenses. Does the A6000 and A7 use E mount? I don't know. Haven't been following the latest for awhile. sweat.gif If yes then new Zeiss lenses for them.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM)
Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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didn't say. but both also can use. just that if it's a aps-c lens, using on a7 would be crop mode.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 10:36 AM)
Sry, confuse a bit.. this announcement means there will be new lens for A6000 or A7 series?

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-huge-ze...s-will-love-it/
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Both can be used. But it's really meant for FF
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yup.. just afraid on this... hmm.. maybe time to sell A7? ANy taker? tongue.gif

QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 22 2014, 11:36 AM)
didn't say. but both also can use. just that if it's a aps-c lens, using on a7 would be crop mode.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 12:42 PM)
yup.. just afraid on this... hmm.. maybe time to sell A7? ANy taker?  tongue.gif
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why?? A7 is the cheapest FF camera with great FF quality image. Is it not?  laugh.gif
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That said the A7 lens catalogue for "proper" shooting (read: commercial shooting needing use of AF, OSS and stuff) is kinda sad, especially if you don't have the AF motor Alpha mount adapter. Not many first party FF lenses and even less third party stuff (which is bad news for a starving hobbyist like me).

Sure, there's the basic Sony stuff and the handful of Zeisses, but that's about it. Compare that with the long list of EF and FX lenses and you'll know what I mean.

It's actually sadder then during my A200 days, even when we used to moan about lens choice all the time. Back then we could easily get screw focus Minolta lenses because AF motor was in-body. And there was even more Minolta lenses than you could shake a stick at.

However, if you got the A7 to shoot manual lenses for fun it's a different story lol. Or if you don't mind using the slightly bulky LA-EA4, there's still those beautiful, beautiful Minolta glass floating around - especially the ones made for film.

Like the Sony/Minolta 135mm STF. Oh the STF. Good lord liquid bokeh literally dripping everywhere (though technically the STF is an MF lens so the LA-EA3 or even a Metabones adapter would suffice already).

In the end, Sony's mirrorless FF lineup still has quite a lot of room to grow, so time will tell.

BTW, has anybody begged Tamron to do an E-mount 17-50/2.8 yet? Or Sigma with their 16-35/1.8. Now that I'm firmly set on the A6000 I need lenses for the darned thing.

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Aug 22 2014, 11:18 AM)
Sounds like it. New E mount lenses. Does the A6000 and A7 use E mount? I don't know. Haven't been following the latest for awhile. sweat.gif If yes then new Zeiss lenses for them.
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 22 2014, 10:23 AM)
Anyone has experience using this white balance lens cap? Are they good for custom white balance? And can it also use as a lens cap for protection? I also worried it may not fit on my lens/filter as I read somewhere people saying some third party lens cap won't fit into their lens.

http://www.lazada.com.my/generic-white-bal...7mm-527670.html
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what for spend so much when u can buy a piece of A4 paper?or better yet buy those styrofoam like thingy at stationery shop...forgot what's called...make a bounce card for it and it doubles up as a white card...
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 22 2014, 01:09 PM)
That said the A7 lens catalogue for "proper" shooting (read: commercial shooting needing use of AF, OSS and stuff) is kinda sad, especially if you don't have the AF motor Alpha mount adapter. Not many first party FF lenses and even less third party stuff (which is bad news for a starving hobbyist like me).

Sure, there's the basic Sony stuff and the handful of Zeisses, but that's about it. Compare that with the long list of EF and FX lenses and you'll know what I mean.

It's actually sadder then during my A200 days, even when we used to moan about lens choice all the time. Back then we could easily get screw focus Minolta lenses because AF motor was in-body. And there was even more Minolta lenses than you could shake a stick at.

However, if you got the A7 to shoot manual lenses for fun it's a different story lol. Or if you don't mind using the slightly bulky LA-EA4, there's still those beautiful, beautiful Minolta glass floating around - especially the ones made for film.

Like the Sony/Minolta 135mm STF. Oh the STF. Good lord liquid bokeh literally dripping everywhere (though technically the STF is an MF lens so the LA-EA3 or even a Metabones adapter would suffice already).

In the end, Sony's mirrorless FF lineup still has quite a lot of room to grow, so time will tell.

BTW, has anybody begged Tamron to do an E-mount 17-50/2.8 yet? Or Sigma with their 16-35/1.8. Now that I'm firmly set on the A6000 I need lenses for the darned thing.
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Makes me wanna buy LA-EA2 edy.. sweat.gif

Later after work might go to nearest Sony Centre tapau 50mm f/1.8.
Decided to go 50mm instead of 35mm at last.
I think I can work myself around the extra 15mm of that lens. tongue.gif
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This wraps up everything...
In short, I felt that FE lens is still very limited and using adapter might overkill the 'light/compact/small' factor of this A7.
And if this upcoming FF lens is meant for A6000 or even A5100 then I'll still get the same FF capability on even smaller body... right? feel free to correct yup...

QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 22 2014, 01:09 PM)
That said the A7 lens catalogue for "proper" shooting (read: commercial shooting needing use of AF, OSS and stuff) is kinda sad, especially if you don't have the AF motor Alpha mount adapter. Not many first party FF lenses and even less third party stuff (which is bad news for a starving hobbyist like me).

Sure, there's the basic Sony stuff and the handful of Zeisses, but that's about it. Compare that with the long list of EF and FX lenses and you'll know what I mean.

It's actually sadder then during my A200 days, even when we used to moan about lens choice all the time. Back then we could easily get screw focus Minolta lenses because AF motor was in-body. And there was even more Minolta lenses than you could shake a stick at.

However, if you got the A7 to shoot manual lenses for fun it's a different story lol. Or if you don't mind using the slightly bulky LA-EA4, there's still those beautiful, beautiful Minolta glass floating around - especially the ones made for film.

Like the Sony/Minolta 135mm STF. Oh the STF. Good lord liquid bokeh literally dripping everywhere (though technically the STF is an MF lens so the LA-EA3 or even a Metabones adapter would suffice already).

In the end, Sony's mirrorless FF lineup still has quite a lot of room to grow, so time will tell.

BTW, has anybody begged Tamron to do an E-mount 17-50/2.8 yet? Or Sigma with their 16-35/1.8. Now that I'm firmly set on the A6000 I need lenses for the darned thing.
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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 12:42 PM)
yup.. just afraid on this... hmm.. maybe time to sell A7? ANy taker?  tongue.gif
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I dont understand what are you afraid of?
those Zeiss are full frame lenses meant for your A7. If you still want to sell, give me a PM if the price is low.
cause the new ones are very "cheap" at the moment wink.gif


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QUOTE(awiekupo @ Aug 22 2014, 02:58 PM)
This wraps up everything...
In short, I felt that FE lens is still very limited and using adapter might overkill the 'light/compact/small' factor of this A7.
And if this upcoming FF lens is meant for A6000 or even A5100 then I'll still get the same FF capability on even smaller body... right? feel free to correct yup...
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FE is FF lah, they are the same.... FE is the official code. FF is fullframe. FE stands for Fullframe E-mount.
And if you use FE lenses on the A5000/A5100/A6000/Nex you lose nothing. The only draw back is the cost.
Having said that, in practice, nobody will put a full frame lens on their APS-C camera body

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Aug 22 2014, 04:43 PM)
FE is FF lah, they are the same.... FE is the official code. FF is fullframe. FE stands for Fullframe E-mount.
And if you use FE lenses on the A5000/A5100/A6000/Nex you lose nothing. The only draw back is the cost.
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And the weird lens ranges. Like 24-70 that covers a very... peculiar... range on apsc when it's actually very usable on FF.

That said, where are the 2.8 constant zooms? Even the 16-70z is f4 for that price. I'd rather have a compact 16-35/2.8 than that (Sigma/Tammy/Tokky please take note).

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guys, the talk about FE vs E is the same with Sony DT vs FF. its a pointless argument because everyone has their point of view and noone is wrong. they can use any range and design as their please because its their money and their style of photography. nothing wrong.

it is true due to limitation due to the short flange range(clearance), it is very difficult to make a lens that is wide open, to be small, and yet retain all sharpness. hence you will end up with very aperture limited lens. (dont start comparing fuji or leica, its a non stop argument)... but on smaller apcs sensor, the possibility is more, and its cheaper choice to go if one plan to grab many lens to enjoy.


btw anyone else going to the Sony Super Workshop? i gathered a few people into a small whatsapp group, its good to get to know each other before the trip then we wont feel too stranger at the workshop.
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Hi bro, who's the guy bringing the Speedmaster? Interested to have a look see.
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http://famecherry.com/shop-with-us-2/essen...ter-50mm-f0-95/
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 22 2014, 01:09 PM)
Like the Sony/Minolta 135mm STF. Oh the STF. Good lord liquid bokeh literally dripping everywhere (though technically the STF is an MF lens so the LA-EA3 or even a Metabones adapter would suffice already).
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I removed the rear baffle on my LA-EA1 and it's now a full-frame adapter. Works great with my STF and A7S. Well, in theory, because I've not... actually... assembled... this combo yet. Soon!
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QUOTE(albnok @ Aug 22 2014, 05:23 PM)
I removed the rear baffle on my LA-EA1 and it's now a full-frame adapter. Works great with my STF and A7S. Well, in theory, because I've not... actually... assembled... this combo yet. Soon!
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This.

STF samples on A7s stat!

BTW, good seeing you're still around bro... thumbup.gif

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One of the main advantage of NEX/a6k series, the flexibility to adapt.
Shot using Vivitar 135mm f/2.8
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I went into Sony Centre today to try the RX100 M3 as well as the A6000. Oh God why did I even walk in in the first place.. sweat.gif The A6000's AF is very impressive!
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Aug 22 2014, 06:38 PM)
I went into Sony Centre today to try the RX100 M3 as well as the A6000. Oh God why did I even walk in in the first place.. sweat.gif The A6000's AF is very impressive!
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that's why the whole world of sony user keep talking A6000 XD
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Sony SLT-A99V
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Aug 22 2014, 01:09 PM)
That said the A7 lens catalogue for "proper" shooting (read: commercial shooting needing use of AF, OSS and stuff) is kinda sad, especially if you don't have the AF motor Alpha mount adapter. Not many first party FF lenses and even less third party stuff (which is bad news for a starving hobbyist like me).

Sure, there's the basic Sony stuff and the handful of Zeisses, but that's about it. Compare that with the long list of EF and FX lenses and you'll know what I mean.

It's actually sadder then during my A200 days, even when we used to moan about lens choice all the time. Back then we could easily get screw focus Minolta lenses because AF motor was in-body. And there was even more Minolta lenses than you could shake a stick at.

However, if you got the A7 to shoot manual lenses for fun it's a different story lol. Or if you don't mind using the slightly bulky LA-EA4, there's still those beautiful, beautiful Minolta glass floating around - especially the ones made for film.

Like the Sony/Minolta 135mm STF. Oh the STF. Good lord liquid bokeh literally dripping everywhere (though technically the STF is an MF lens so the LA-EA3 or even a Metabones adapter would suffice already).

In the end, Sony's mirrorless FF lineup still has quite a lot of room to grow, so time will tell.

BTW, has anybody begged Tamron to do an E-mount 17-50/2.8 yet? Or Sigma with their 16-35/1.8. Now that I'm firmly set on the A6000 I need lenses for the darned thing.
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From what we see Sony has been doing in past one year, I am quite confident that in one to two years time, FE lens collection will be more than enough for photographers.
In fact, for myself, current FE lenses are pretty good already. And I don't have so much money to buy so many lens at a short period of time anyways. FE 55 F1.8 for portrait, FE 24-70 F4 for gun and run shoot, FE 70-200 F4 for tele. I don't like heavy lens putting on Sony E series cameras, because E series is all bout lightweight and portability. If I want heavy duty production, I will prefer the D800 or 5D3 solution as you have the best AF and every lens you want there, and of course weight will be double or triple from a E mount solution. If we want a FE 70-200 F2.8 OSS lens, it will probably double the weight of the current F4 lens. What I wish to see the most for now is a 35mm F1.8-1.4, and a 85mm F1.8-1.4. After that, I'd like to see a 150-250mm F4-2.8 (that would be just a 1.6x zoom, much smaller than a 70-200's 2.85x, so that it can remain lightweight).



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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 22 2014, 07:32 PM)
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Sony SLT-A99V
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so cute this girl. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hazril @ Aug 22 2014, 02:32 PM)
what for spend so much when u can buy a piece of A4 paper?or better yet buy those styrofoam like thingy at stationery shop...forgot what's called...make a bounce card for it and it doubles up as a white card...
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I was wondering if it can be used as a lens cap since the price is same as a normal lens cap......as I need to buy a lens cap lately for a step up ND filter.

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 22 2014, 10:09 PM)
From what we see Sony has been doing in past one year, I am quite confident that in one to two years time, FE lens collection will be more than enough for photographers.
In fact, for myself, current FE lenses are pretty good already. And I don't have so much money to buy so many lens at a short period of time anyways. FE 55 F1.8 for portrait, FE 24-70 F4 for gun and run shoot, FE 70-200 F4 for tele. I don't like heavy lens putting on Sony E series cameras, because E series is all bout lightweight and portability. If I want heavy duty production, I will prefer the D800 or 5D3 solution as you have the best AF and every lens you want there, and of course weight will be double or triple from a E mount solution. If we want a FE 70-200 F2.8 OSS lens, it will probably double the weight of the current F4 lens. What I wish to see the most for now is a 35mm F1.8-1.4, and a 85mm F1.8-1.4. After that, I'd like to see a 150-250mm F4-2.8 (that would be just a 1.6x zoom, much smaller than a 70-200's 2.85x, so that it can remain lightweight).
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This is very true though. Plus an f4 lens on FF is technically already an f2.8 lens anyway (and an f2.8 lens is EVEN faster).

But yeah, we hobbyists tend to be a bit on the "tamak" side after all - we want want our cake and we want to eat it, and it really helps if the cake is delicious AND cheap.

A more varied third party line of options would be interesting though - and if Sony can hang on to the FE lens mount as a standard long enough, who knows, it might even happen.

I mean, it's been years since the A100 and they're still kicking fine.

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