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post Dec 24 2012, 01:10 AM, updated 12y ago

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Welcome to V59!!!

Previous threads: V58 V57 V56 V55

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The Sony Alpha User List is managed by chiahau. Click here to jump to it!

>>>[cool.gifSony Alpha F.A.Q
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Common Kelvin White Balance Settings:
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Wireless Flash Compatibility List:
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Removing Pop-Up Flash Effect In Wireless Flash Mode:
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Sony Alpha Lens Line-up: HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera:

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A77 (soft version), A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap vmad.gif - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A77, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals: Sony Support Site A200 A300/A350 A700 A900

How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok:



Some useful links:

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324

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Alpha street pricelist updated 26th October 2013:

Camera

Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A290 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A390 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM17xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A33 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM23xx
Sony A35 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A37 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM15xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx
Sony A550 body only = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM21xx
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx
Sony A580 body only = RM24xx
Sony A580 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM27xx
Sony A55 body only + 8GB MSPD HX = RM21xx
Sony A55 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM25xx
Sony A55 + 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM26xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A55 + 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM37xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A57 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A58 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM19xx NEW
Sony A65 body only = RM26xx
Sony A65 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM28xx
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A77 body only = RM38xx
Sony A77 + 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM = RM48xx
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony A99 body only = RM74xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 = RM16xx
Sony NEX-3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-C3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM19xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-F3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS = RM25xx
Sony NEX-3N + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD (x2) = RM14xx NEW
Sony NEX-3N + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD = RM18xx NEW
Sony NEX-5 + 16mm F2.8 = RM21xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 4GB MSPD = RM23xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS + 8GB MSPD + LCD protector = RM32xx
Sony NEX-5N + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB MSPD = RM26xx
Sony NEX-5R + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD = RM18xx
Sony NEX-5R + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD = RM25xx
Sony NEX-6 + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 8GB SD = RM27xx
Sony NEX-6 + 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS + 8GB SD (x2) = RM34xx
Sony NEX-7 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 16GB SD = RM39xx
Sony VG-900 = RM94xx

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
M = Sony 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM (or Sony 16-50mm F2.8 DT SSM with A77)
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA

For Sony NEX bodies:

A = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake
D = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake + Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
H = Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS
K = Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
L = Sony E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS pancake
Y = Sony E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS pancake + Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS

Battery Grip

Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-B50AM for A450/A500/A550/A560/A580 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A850/A900 = RM9xx

Battery

Sony NP-FH50 battery for A230/A290/A330/A380/A390 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FW50 battery for NEX-3/NEX-C3/NEX-F3/NEX-3N/NEX-5/NEX-5N/NEX-5R/NEX-5T/NEX-6/NEX-7/A33/A35/A37/A55 = RM2xx
Sony NP-FM500H battery for A100/A200/A300/A350/A450/A500/A550/A560/A580/A700/A850/A900/A57/A58/A65/A77/A99 = RM2xx

Other Accessories

Sony FDA-EVS1 electronic viewfinder for NEX-5N = RM9xx

Flash

Sony HVL-F20S = RM3xx
Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F43AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx
Sony HVL-F60M = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses

Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses

Samyang 8mm F3.5 = RM10xx
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx
Sony 35mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM6xx
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx

E-mount Lenses For Alpha NEX Cameras

Sigma 19mm F2.8 EX DN = RM7xx
Sigma 30mm F2.8 EX DN = RM7xx
Sony E 30mm F3.5 Macro = RM7xx
Sony E 50mm F1.8 OSS = RM9xx
Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS = RM21xx
Sony E Carl Zeiss 16-70mm F4 ZA = RM31xx NEW
Sony E 55-210mm F4.5-6.3 OSS = RM8xx

New Full-Frame Lenses

Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm F2.0 SSM ZA = RM38xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx
Samyang 35mm F1.4 = RM15xx
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 50mm F1.4 ZA SSM = RM42xx NEW
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM = RM8xx
Samyang 85mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony LA-EA1 lens adapter = RM5xx
Sony LA-EA2 lens adapter = RM9xx
Sony VCL-ECF1 fisheye adapter = RM3xx

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post Dec 24 2012, 01:11 AM

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NEX: user posted image
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A100: image url: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2687/alpha100cb9.png

A200: image url: http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1922/a200.png

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post Dec 24 2012, 01:46 AM

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Merry Christmas and happy new year to all !

Looking for ultra wide angle zoom lens .
need recomendation from all.

done some googling ,
tamron 10-24
sigma 12-24 f4
sigma 8-16
sigma 10-20mm F3.5
tokina 11-16
sony 11-16

need recomendation on which lens is best for outdoor and indoor .
hopefully some input/reason as well.

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post Dec 24 2012, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(Zhao @ Dec 24 2012, 01:46 AM)
Merry Christmas and happy new year to all !

Looking for ultra wide angle zoom lens .
need recomendation from all.

done some googling ,
tamron 10-24
sigma 12-24 f4
sigma 8-16
tokina 11-16
sony 11-16

need recomendation on which lens is best for outdoor and indoor .
hopefully some input/reason as well.

Thanks smile.gif
btw 1st  tongue.gif
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go for tokina, since its f2.8 which is good for low light indoor icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 24 2012, 02:10 AM

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i vote tokina too
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post Dec 24 2012, 07:29 AM

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1) Need some advise on flash, will looking for flashgun....will
Yong nuo 560 or NISSIN DI622 MARK II can attach with A57 directly or need adaptor for the flash? or F43 flash will better flashgun for it?

2) Need sifu to teach how to use SP 90 1:1 macro shooting....I getting lost focus when i turn to 1:1 macro, unless i get closer to subject, how to shooting 1:1 when far to subject? tq all sifu in advance
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Zhao @ Dec 24 2012, 01:46 AM)
Merry Christmas and happy new year to all !

Looking for ultra wide angle zoom lens .
need recomendation from all.

done some googling ,
tamron 10-24
sigma 12-24 f4
sigma 8-16
sigma 10-20mm F3.5
tokina 11-16
sony 11-16

need recomendation on which lens is best for outdoor and indoor .
hopefully some input/reason as well.

Thanks smile.gif
btw 1st  tongue.gif
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The sony is 11-18mm, btw, not 11-16mm. wink.gif
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(jimmyyap03 @ Dec 24 2012, 07:29 AM)
1) Need some advise on flash, will looking for flashgun....will
Yong nuo 560  or NISSIN DI622 MARK II can attach with A57 directly or need adaptor for the flash? or F43 flash will better flashgun for it?

2) Need sifu to teach how to use SP 90 1:1 macro shooting....I getting lost focus when i turn to 1:1 macro, unless i get closer to subject, how to shooting 1:1 when far to subject? tq all sifu in advance
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1) i still think F58 is a better one, but if 3 of your choice, F43 will be better..

2) 1:1 i believe you need to shoot in MFD (minimum focus distance) when it's far, the magnification drop, mean no longer 1:1..
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Sifus please advice, yesterday when shooting wedding dinner, suddenly i cant switch to manual mode on my f43 flash. Im using a77 by the way... when i change to manual mode, when i click on shutter button, it changes back to TTL.. am i doing anything wrong?
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post Dec 24 2012, 10:46 AM

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Comparing f58 and f43, f43 is the better flash. F58 is only better if you want a higher flash power.
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QUOTE(steve88 @ Dec 24 2012, 09:40 AM)
Sifus please advice, yesterday when shooting wedding dinner, suddenly i cant switch to manual mode on my f43 flash. Im using a77 by the way... when i change to manual mode, when i click on shutter button, it changes back to TTL.. am i doing anything wrong?
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if you are using bounce flash then it will automatically change back to TTL.
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QUOTE(steve88 @ Dec 24 2012, 09:40 AM)
Sifus please advice, yesterday when shooting wedding dinner, suddenly i cant switch to manual mode on my f43 flash. Im using a77 by the way... when i change to manual mode, when i click on shutter button, it changes back to TTL.. am i doing anything wrong?
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iinm manual mode flash only in M mode at body i think hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Dec 24 2012, 11:04 AM)
iinm manual mode flash only in M mode at body i think  hmm.gif
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Just referred to the user manual... got it to work now... actually just need to turn PASM on to enable different mode in body also can use manual flash mode. If is turned off(by default) then only manual mode in body can use manual mode in flash.
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QUOTE(Ksano @ Dec 24 2012, 02:00 AM)
go for tokina, since its f2.8 which is good for low light indoor  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I realize about that too. But tokina won't work on full frame if I upgrade sad.gif

QUOTE(soket @ Dec 24 2012, 02:10 AM)
i vote tokina too
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QUOTE(kysham @ Dec 24 2012, 08:41 AM)
The sony is 11-18mm, btw, not 11-16mm.  wink.gif
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Haha,typo.

Is Sony coming out with new ultra wide angle in 2013?

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QUOTE(jimmyyap03 @ Dec 24 2012, 07:29 AM)
1) Need some advise on flash, will looking for flashgun....will
Yong nuo 560  or NISSIN DI622 MARK II can attach with A57 directly or need adaptor for the flash? or F43 flash will better flashgun for it?

2) Need sifu to teach how to use SP 90 1:1 macro shooting....I getting lost focus when i turn to 1:1 macro, unless i get closer to subject, how to shooting 1:1 when far to subject? tq all sifu in advance
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F43. The others do not have TTL. It's a pain in the ass if you're using flash for the first time and needing to use manual. The SP90 cannot do 1:1 when you're far. It has to be near to do 1:1.
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lol... home made diy soupphere and bd

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environment: small room; camera to subject 3ft, camera to subject white bg(wall) 6ft, flash to ceiling ~5-6ft
setting: iso200, f5.6, 50mm focal, TTL, M mode, flash compensation -0.3


in comparison tests, I found:

Hot-shoe attached
- pure flash 0 degree ceiling bounce is the best if ceiling is low for most soft light
- pure flash 45 degree bounce is the best if ceiling is low for softer light & little catch light
- diy soupphere complete failed when shoot 90 degree flash to subject (not doing well on the doom)
- diy bd seem not working well, feel the dish is too narrow

summary: if ceiling there, it rock w/o any gadget. if not, my guess still need to bounce high ceiling and pull out the bounce card in f43

p/s: if i am wrong, please stab lightly enough unsure.gif


Added on December 24, 2012, 12:45 pm
QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 24 2012, 11:00 AM)
if you are using bounce flash then it will automatically change back to TTL.
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oh yeah, i saw that small bounce icon once yesterday doing test shoot, it disappear i bengkok the flash flash.

just now try to simulate it in various way, cant get it anymore...

This post has been edited by jimlim007: Dec 24 2012, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(jimmyyap03 @ Dec 24 2012, 07:29 AM)
1) Need some advise on flash, will looking for flashgun....will
Yong nuo 560  or NISSIN DI622 MARK II can attach with A57 directly or need adaptor for the flash? or F43 flash will better flashgun for it?

2) Need sifu to teach how to use SP 90 1:1 macro shooting....I getting lost focus when i turn to 1:1 macro, unless i get closer to subject, how to shooting 1:1 when far to subject? tq all sifu in advance
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cannot stand far with 1:1
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i) if u ask any of us here, we sure tell u, get sony flash, dont spend money on 3rd party, few month later u get tired of the inconsistency and damn troublesome to use, eventually u will come back here and ask... "where to get the cheapest F43?".... just skip to F43. save the troublesome journey.

ii) macro 1:1 just MF to the max 1:1 then adjust ur camera distance until subject is in focus.
actually, most macro shooter dont exactly shoot at 1:1, most of use shoot at desire "DOF"...

steve88, zstam, mastering89: there is a overwrite setting inside the flash, where it allows manual flash in PAS mode. usually its disable and auto goes back to TTL/ADI when detected the camera is on PAS mode.


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V59 liao! hehe...

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