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 Sony XPERIA™ Z Ultra, Official Thread V2, The only Snapdragon™ 800 ~ 6.44" Beast!!

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post Jul 27 2013, 01:08 PM, updated 13y ago

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Xperia™ Z Ultra | Big screen. Big entertainment.

Xperia™ Z Ultra – the largest display in the world’s slimmest Full HD smartphone

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Specification:
  • OS: Android 4.2.2 (upgradable to Android 4.3)
  • Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8974
  • CPU: Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 processor with 2.2 GHz quad-core CPUs
  • GPU: Adreno 330
  • RAM: 2GB
  • Capacity: 16GB Internal + microSD card support up to 64 GB
  • Display: 6.44” ~342ppi Full HD TRILUMINOS™ with OptiContrast™ panel
  • Screen Technology: Display for mobile powered by X-Reality™ (Current ROM temporary came with mobile Bravia® Engine 2)
  • Real Camera: 8 MP Auto Focus Sony Exmor RS for mobile with image stabiliser, 16x Digital Zoom & HDR photo & video
  • Front Camera: 2 MP, Exmor R, HD Video Recording (1080p)
  • Durability: Waterproof (IP58) and Dust-Resistant (IP55), Ultra Slim durable design with Shatter Proof and Scratch-Resistant glass
  • Input: Write and sketch with any pencil and selected stylus or pen
  • Audio: 3D Surround Sound (VPT), ClearAudio+, Clear bass, Clear Phase™, Clear stereo, Dynamic normalizer, xLoud™ Experience
  • Network: LTE support for C6806 & C6833 | HSPA+ for C6802
  • Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Miracast™, dlna, MHL, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth 4.0 with A2DP, NFC
  • Radio: Stereo FM radio with RDS
  • Sensors: Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
  • USB: microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB On-the-go
  • GPS: aGPS and GLONASS
  • Battery: Non-removable Li-Ion 3050 mAh battery
  • Battery Duration: Talk time Up to 16 hours , Standby time Up to 820 hours with Stamina Mode feature
  • Dimensions: 179 x 92 x 6.5 mm
  • Weight: 212g
  • Colors Availability: Black, White, Purple
Previous Version:

VersionTotal PostsTotal ViewsStart DateEnd Date
V 11,50638,93725 Jun 201327 July 2013


Current Firmware: 14.1.B.0.471
  • Increase performance and much smoothness. My Antutu score increase from previous 30k to current 33k.
  • Better stylus input now! You can touch everywhere you want now with pencil and responsiveness.
  • Screen is touchable when your finger/palm resting at screen now! But not working with stylus-pencil.
  • Still old UI without X-Reality support, Sony Hong Kong site mention X-Reality support will only start rolling out beginning of 9/Sept/2013.
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How Great Sony Xperia Z Ultra Screen Are?

Xperia ZL v/s Xperia Z Ultra
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Ultra entertainment – anytime, anywhere

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The world’s largest Full HD smartphone display

The first Android smartphone with a 6.4” Full HD Display – and the first one ever to incorporate a TRILUMINOS™ Display with X-Reality for mobile – Xperia Z Ultra is the smartphone that takes you beyond your wildest dreams. The result? An on-the-go viewing experience that maximises everything.


Ultra slim, lightweight and waterproof

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The world’s slimmest Full HD smartphone

With its 6.5 mm body, reflective glass surface and at 212 grams, this premium big screen phone is impressively slim, light and slick.


The only waterproof Full HD smartphone

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IP55/IP58

Waterproof, dust resistant and with tough tempered glass coated with an anti-shatter film, this Android smartphone is much tougher than it looks.


Ultra entertainment. Ultra business. An ultra experience

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Experience 60% more

From reading e-books to browsing web pages – the Full HD display has been optimized so you can see and experience 60% more than most smartphones.

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Get precise

Xperia Z Ultra works with a pencil or stylus, and the super responsive screen lets you to write and sketch with precise accuracy.

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Increase productivity

An easy-toggle keyboard for one-handed input, plus multi-tasking apps that improve productivity help make this big screen Android smartphone the perfect business partner.



Features:


When only the best is good enough

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Full HD TRILUMINOS™ Display with X-Reality for mobile

Xperia Z Ultra is the big screen phone that uses the very latest screen technology developed by our BRAVIA® TV engineers. The large, high-resolution 6.4” Full TRILUMINOS™ Display with X-Reality for mobile comes with a 1920 x 1080 progressive scan, for incredibly crisp pictures free of jagged edges. Paired with a pixel density of 342 pixels per inch, you get pictures that are razor sharp and superiorly bright.


X-Reality for mobile

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For clearer, more vivid pictures

From low-resolution web videos to high-resolution movies − with Sony’s latest picture engine, exclusive X-Reality for mobile – everything you see on Xperia Z Ultra’s big screen is analysed and selectively processed to give clean, clear and lifelike pictures. Three unique noise reduction features work their magic prior to upscaling. While Sony’s intelligent display technology analyses each image to optimise pixels, texture, outline, colour, contrast and noise, creating the best viewing experience possible.


Blazing fast performance

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The world’s fastest smartphone processor

We’ve matched the latest Sony software with the all new, super powerful Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 800 processor. This advanced Quad-core processor is 75% faster than S4 Pro and gives you maximum power and speed with outstanding battery time – run multiple apps simultaneously, surf the web with little loading time, and stream videos without a break. The Snapdragon 800 processor is asynchronous, which means each core is powered independently. So you get the precise amount of power when you need it, without wasting power when you don’t.


Breathtaking graphics

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GPU: Adreno 330

Delivering up to 50% increased graphic performance (compare with Adreno 320), the updated Adreno 330 GPU (graphics processing unit) gives you the most advanced and visually stunning 3D games, and lets you browse the web lightning fast – all while using the lowest power consumption.


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Actual Look:
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Phone Size Comparison
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Flip Case - Free when purchase from Sony Centre / Sony Mobile effectively from 1-Aug-2013 till 11-Aug-2013
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FAQ:

1. What to do during purchasing.
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2. What is Flashtool
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3. Will Factory Reset delete all your data?
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4. Is the screen over sensitive or inaccuracy touch input?
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XDA Official Section - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2441

Stock ROM - FTF - Generic Unbranded :

ROMAndroidModelRegionOrigin Thread
14.1.B.0.4614.2.2HSPA+Hong Konghttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380491



Stock ROM Deodexed:

ROMAndroidModelRegionOrigin Thread
14.1.B.0.4614.2.2HSPA+Hong Konghttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381253


* No ROOT method for this phone at the moment, which means no way to install the Deodexed ROM yet.

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Some Benchmark Score as references

Antutu
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CPU Identifier
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3D Mark
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Vellamo
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Epic Citadel
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I very like this ZU but is the 8mp camera good because XSP is not above average and having the same camera specs. Cheers!
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post Jul 27 2013, 01:59 PM

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going to get one soon when purple released... T.T
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post Jul 27 2013, 02:06 PM

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Welcome all for Official Thread v2 of Sony Xperia Z Ultra smile.gif

More information will be added ASAP if found. smile.gif

PM me if you already purchase the unit, give me your model version (LTE or H+ only) and color model. smile.gif I will added in ASAP once I seen it. smile.gif
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oh dem, was at curve yesterday but didn't know the sony center there got d doh.gif

screen looks damn awesome, must try hands on!!!
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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 27 2013, 02:13 PM)
just collected mine

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just collected mine

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mines a white unit btw
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I got it from my friend, he is a Sony dealer
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I think when lte is here, this version price will drop.
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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 27 2013, 02:13 PM)
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I got it from my friend, he is a Sony dealer
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I didn't ask him about lte, but he did mention something about honami... and it's coming soon
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low light photo shot has lots of noise. but if it's bright then the picture is fine. so the camera is not ideal for low light
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low light photo shot has lots of noise. but if it's bright then the picture is fine. so the camera is not ideal for low light
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and they remove the flash sweat.gif
probably remove to maintain the thickness they wanted
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and they remove the flash sweat.gif
probably remove to maintain the thickness they wanted
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the LED flash won't add anything about thickness i think, since they can add the camera unit liao.
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Dude, what's the price for the sexy unit?!
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very impressed with the build quality though... love thetempered glass and the aluminium edge at the side. so smooth...

really sad there is no root for this phone yet otherwise I'll port all my apps over and start abusing this beast.

as of now note 2 is still the phone I'm using...
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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 27 2013, 02:48 PM)
very impressed with the build quality though... love thetempered glass and the aluminium edge at the side. so smooth...

really sad there is no root for this phone yet otherwise I'll port all my apps over and start abusing this beast.

as of now note 2 is still the phone I'm using...
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me actually quite worry about the rear using the glass, this huge device and glass so thin. have to take care seriously.
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guys, is that original set come with front and back screen protector??

it is quite not good if dont hav protector....starch everywhere
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QUOTE(iAlien @ Jul 27 2013, 02:57 PM)
guys, is that original set come with front and back screen protector??

it is quite not good if dont hav protector....starch everywhere
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already got mine. its HUGE tongue.gif

No freebies, promoter said just launching. I'm the 1st customer get this beast. wink.gif

Will post photo later. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 27 2013, 03:09 PM)
already got mine. its HUGE  tongue.gif

No freebies, promoter said just launching. I'm the 1st customer get this beast.  wink.gif

Will post photo later.  biggrin.gif
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boss, is that original set come with front and back screen protector??

it is quite not good if dont hav protector....starch everywhere
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boss, is that original set come with front and back screen protector??

it is quite not good if dont hav protector....starch everywhere
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nope. screen protector only arrive next week, for Ipoh lah, KL maybe faster. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 27 2013, 03:09 PM)
already got mine. its HUGE  tongue.gif

No freebies, promoter said just launching. I'm the 1st customer get this beast.  wink.gif

Will post photo later.  biggrin.gif
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Where did u get it?
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very impressed with the build quality though... love thetempered glass and the aluminium edge at the side. so smooth...

really sad there is no root for this phone yet otherwise I'll port all my apps over and start abusing this beast.

as of now note 2 is still the phone I'm using...
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There is a one click root at the xda thread
I will try it when I am back home
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Sound & Photo Electric , Jalan Raja Musa Aziz, just opposite Kamdar  smile.gif
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same price with SONY Center?
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Apparently the free gift is limited n only to certain centers only

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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 27 2013, 03:09 PM)
already got mine. its HUGE  tongue.gif

No freebies, promoter said just launching. I'm the 1st customer get this beast.  wink.gif

Will post photo later.  biggrin.gif
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Dont you think the display is fantastically great. What would you say vs HTC one? I prefer it over the Htc1 anytime
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nope. screen protector only arrive next week, for Ipoh lah, KL maybe faster.  biggrin.gif
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no freebies..

i have decided to not get this.. come to think of it.. Z is more worth.. smile.gif

hahahaha..
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Dont you think the display is fantastically great. What would you say vs HTC one? I prefer it over the Htc1 anytime
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ya, the shop got display set. and the promoter show me the display. I was like ' WOW ' rclxms.gif

I'm still working now. so only can play after working time.

btw Uncle Benny, the speaker totally turn me off if compare with my One sad.gif
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ya, the shop got display set. and the promoter show me the display. I was like ' WOW '  rclxms.gif

I'm still working now. so only can play after working time.

btw Uncle Benny, the speaker totally turn me off if compare with my One  sad.gif
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No other phone can beat HTC One right moment in term of speaker sound quality...
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 27 2013, 03:38 PM)
ya, the shop got display set. and the promoter show me the display. I was like ' WOW '  rclxms.gif

I'm still working now. so only can play after working time.

btw Uncle Benny, the speaker totally turn me off if compare with my One  sad.gif
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No kidding?

Cons:
No Flash
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Good screen
Largest phablet
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 27 2013, 03:38 PM)
ya, the shop got display set. and the promoter show me the display. I was like ' WOW '  rclxms.gif

I'm still working now. so only can play after working time.

btw Uncle Benny, the speaker totally turn me off if compare with my One  sad.gif
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the speaker not so good.. thats why i hold back.. compare to one and current mega im using..

i was so disappointed in a way thought..

despite the damn good screen.. BUT.. the camera and the speaker hold me back lot..

so im going back to Z now.. smile.gif
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Dont you think the display is fantastically great. What would you say vs HTC one? I prefer it over the Htc1 anytime
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OMG! After seen your talk of display, I more want now! Wow!
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anybody with Z and ZU can compare the camera a bit? because i've seen some reivews, they say despite the fact that its 8mp and it lacks a flash, the details are actually better than the camera on Z
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QUOTE(derrickmoo @ Jul 27 2013, 04:03 PM)
the speaker not so good.. thats why i hold back.. compare to one and current mega im using..

i was so disappointed in a way thought..

despite the damn good screen.. BUT.. the camera and the speaker hold me back lot..

so im going back to Z now.. smile.gif
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Z also bad in speaker. Hehe...

I am confirm release my Z and get this beast Z Ultra!
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Z also bad in speaker. Hehe...

I am confirm release my Z and get this beast Z Ultra!
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to me is even worst then Z.. hahaha...

i like to take pic with phones..

so i think i cant survive with a flash.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 27 2013, 03:38 PM)
ya, the shop got display set. and the promoter show me the display. I was like ' WOW '  rclxms.gif

I'm still working now. so only can play after working time.

btw Uncle Benny, the speaker totally turn me off if compare with my One  sad.gif
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Speaker loudness cannot match Htc1 but not audio quality. Play with the sound settings in setting/sound n adjust to what you wish in the Walkman app
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QUOTE(derrickmoo @ Jul 27 2013, 04:09 PM)
to me is even worst then Z.. hahaha...

i like to take pic with phones..

so i think i cant survive with a flash.. smile.gif
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the speaker quality still acceptable for me sweat.gif , and i dont mind no flash.

Cos normally i just take photo and upload to FB only. haha .... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 27 2013, 04:13 PM)
Speaker loudness cannot match Htc1 but not audio quality. Play with the sound settings in setting/sound n adjust to what you wish in the Walkman app
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yeah.. agree.. but im more to bass.. beats audio still beats the walkman a little.. smile.gif

overall, ZU is a nice device.. the thickness is really amazing.. so damn thin..

build quality.. i think so far is the best for any other smartphone.. personally i think is slightly better than one, the access of all the ports are much easier coz of the pop out a little this time..
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QUOTE(derrickmoo @ Jul 27 2013, 04:09 PM)
to me is even worst then Z.. hahaha...

i like to take pic with phones..

so i think i cant survive with a flash.. smile.gif
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I never take photo ever with flash. So for me flash is kind of useless, I only use it for torch light.
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yeah.. agree.. but im more to bass.. beats audio still beats the walkman a little.. smile.gif

overall, ZU is a nice device.. the thickness is really amazing.. so damn thin..

build quality.. i think so far is the best for any other smartphone.. personally i think is slightly better than one, the access of all the ports are much easier coz of the pop out a little this time..
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any shop got demo unit of ZU. wanna try it a bit 1st before deciding, actually im waiting for the LTE version and also honami

if honami disappoints (especially the leaked design), then i will get the LTE ZU.
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Just played with ZU at Sony Curve and Sony Ikano. Price is RM2299, no extra gift (depends on respective shops/dealers)

My personal feedback :

-sleek design and nice built quality
-screen looks good
-size still manageable, can fit into my jeans..lol

I will wait for more reviews and Sony's official bundle
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The size of the screen really shines with 1080p.

Smaller screens can't really take advantage of such high resolution.
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Had a brief hands on with the ZU at Sony, the bugger is huge. Screen is beautiful but Sony UI page transitions is not as smooth as the Nexus 4.

I'm really keen on a phablet since I use my smartphone beyond simply a phone. But I'll wait for the LTE version

My only concern is that its probably too big to fit into a pocket and what do you guys think about looking silly holding that monster on your ear? If yes, what's a good Bluetooth piece to pair with?

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Had a brief hands on with the ZU at Sony, the bugger is huge.  Screen is beautiful but Sony UI page transitions is not as smooth as the Nexus 4.

I'm really keen on a phablet since I use my smartphone beyond simply a phone.  But I'll wait for the LTE version

My only concern is that its probably too big to fit into a pocket and what do you guys think about looking silly holding that monster on your ear?  If yes, what's a good Bluetooth piece to pair with?
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No kidding?

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No Flash
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Largest phablet
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Cons :

1 - Volume + power button not suitable if u r using left hand . Where do they expect us to hold the phone , top ?

2 - Call volume very soft even set to max , barely can hear what the other party is talking in a noisy environment .

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phablets are not big...
im fine with my phablet, dont feel its huge anymore
once you've used someting big,
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sony has yet rep to their speaker 'quality'
same as xperia Z.
anyways can anyone quote me about the heat issues of this device?
if its the same as xperia Z i might as well wait for note 3, one max,nokia's 6 inch phablet.


edit: i noticed that on the 1st page stated the battery is 3050mAh
isn't sony announced before it was 3,300mAh?

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Wow, just felt this at Sony Center Mid Valley. It's really like a fine chocolate bar laugh.gif

Quite tempted to get one, the biggest deal breaker for me at the moment is lack of LTE.
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sony has yet rep to their speaker 'quality'
same as xperia Z.
anyways can anyone quote me about the heat issues of this device?
if its the same as xperia Z i might as well wait for note 3, one max,nokia's 6 inch phablet.
edit: i noticed that on the 1st page stated the battery is 3050mAh
isn't sony announced before it was 3,300mAh?
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Cons :

1 - Volume + power button not suitable if u r using left hand . Where do they expect us to hold the phone , top ?

2 - Call volume very soft even set to max , barely can hear what the other party is talking in a noisy environment .
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Thanks for informing on this.

If this is true, it's certainly a deal-breaker for me. Will need to test the demo out for sure before purchase. biggrin.gif
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I need double confirm the battery capacity as I can't find at Sony site, I get details from GSMArena.

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for those in Penang..managed to get it for gurney plaza..
1st customer and 1st rma.. biggrin.gif ..docking part came out a bit..lucky can exchange
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LTE LTE LTE! Why u no release in Malaysia yettt???? doh.gif
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for those in Penang..managed to get it from gurney plaza..
1st customer and 1st rma.. biggrin.gif ..docking part came out a bit..lucky can exchange
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Cons :

1 - Volume + power button not suitable if u r using left hand . Where do they expect us to hold the phone , top ?

2 - Call volume very soft even set to max , barely can hear what the other party is talking in a noisy environment .
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I don't think sony is marketing this product emphasizing on sound and camera. It's more phablet emphasizing on screen and speed. Also the writing capabilities.

Guess there is no, one device to suit all..
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already got mine. its HUGE  tongue.gif

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LTE LTE LTE! Why u no release in Malaysia yettt????  doh.gif
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QUOTE(KLlee @ Jul 27 2013, 06:20 PM)
I don't think sony is marketing this product emphasizing on sound and camera. It's more phablet emphasizing on screen and speed. Also the writing capabilities.

Guess there is no, one device to suit all..
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yeah. Even if the button on side you still struggling to hit it with one hand. Doubt many people can operate properly 1 handed with this phone.
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Coming coming  drool.gif
yeah. Even if the button on side you still struggling to hit it with one hand. Doubt many people can operate properly 1 handed with this phone.
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Coming coming  drool.gif
yeah. Even if the button on side you still struggling to hit it with one hand. Doubt many people can operate properly 1 handed with this phone.
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i really want this one.Thank you
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I don't think sony is marketing this product emphasizing on sound and camera. It's more phablet emphasizing on screen and speed. Also the writing capabilities.

Guess there is no, one device to suit all..
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I'm not referring to speakers where we play music . I'm referring to the earpiece we put our ear 2 to listen to calls .
And as for writing capability , how am I a left hander gonna write from left to right without touching the screen as it doesn't response if I accidentally rest my palm on it . 5 mins ? 10 mins ? I'm sorry but I'm spoilt by Note series .
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I don't think sony is marketing this product emphasizing on sound and camera. It's more phablet emphasizing on screen and speed. Also the writing capabilities.

Guess there is no, one device to suit all..
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the speaker part i think its because of the water resistant material or something. same material with xz and xperiz zr also..both speaker very soft
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Only charger, usb cable n earpiece
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the speaker part i think its because of the water resistant material or something. same material with xz and xperiz zr also..both speaker very soft
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Yeah.. That might be the reason. Guess it's best to pair with the SBH52 earphone
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Yeah.. That might be the reason. Guess it's best to pair with the SBH52 earphone
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I'm not referring to speakers where we play music . I'm referring to the earpiece we put our ear 2 to listen to calls .
And as for writing capability , how am I a left hander gonna write from left to right without touching the screen as it doesn't response if I accidentally rest my palm on it . 5 mins ? 10 mins ? I'm sorry but I'm spoilt by Note series .
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Oh.... left handers will have problems with writing on the XZU?
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Anyone please help to ask about LTE version ZU stock arrive date and pricing? biggrin.gif
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Okay, I wanna ask the owners something, hope someone replies. I was wondering if when y'all guy bought, already got screen protectors for it or not yet come to Malaysia yet?
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Okay, I wanna ask the owners something, hope someone replies. I was wondering if when y'all guy bought, already got screen protectors for it or not yet come to Malaysia yet?
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the speaker part i think its because of the water resistant material or something. same material with xz and xperiz zr also..both speaker very soft
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Funny thing about this , I dont see it's a problem for phones like fujitsu F-02E , F-06E and also Sharp SH-06E , all 3 are IP58 certified as well . Both speakers for calls and ringtone/music player are loud enough .
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anyways can anyone quote me about the heat issues of this device?



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can anyone answers this one for me? going to buy one tomorrow.
oh and for the owners. would you recommend this device?
i really had a bad experience with my XZ.
don't want that to happen again.
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Okay, so bro, in your own opinion, do you think a ordinary screen protector is needed?
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can anyone answers this one for me? going to buy one tomorrow.
oh and for the owners. would you recommend this device?
i really had a bad experience with my XZ.
don't want that to happen again.
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the speaker part i think its because of the water resistant material or something. same material with xz and xperiz zr also..both speaker very soft
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Is it really bad? Both XV speaker are quite good. Not great but more than usable
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What kind of bad experience with your XZ?
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honestly i am a heavy user.
i spend almost 4-5 hours a day in the past before selling it.
most of the time watching movies,anime and playing games.
the heat issue.
man. i hated the heat issue so very much.
it gets really hot beyond comfort levels.
and the lens gets foggy
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according to my source stock for screen protector and casing just arrived.

case is those folio type case.
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honestly i am a heavy user.
i spend almost 4-5 hours a day in the past before selling it.
most of the time watching movies,anime and playing games.
the heat issue.
man. i hated the heat issue so very much.
it gets really hot beyond comfort levels.
and the lens gets foggy
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Well Sony is following the same design philosophy across the Z family, and everyone's also annoyed that they gave the flimsy excuse of skimping on the LED flash to fit the thinness.... rolleyes.gif

And both the Z and ZU share the glass back. I guess you will find hotspots on your phone.

My 2 sen.
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according to my source stock for screen protector and casing just arrived.

case is those folio type case.
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where? SP is matte or clear?
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Well Sony is following the same design philosophy across the Z family, and everyone's also annoyed that they gave the flimsy excuse of skimping on the LED flash to fit the thinness....  rolleyes.gif

And both the Z and ZU share the glass back. I guess you will find hotspots on your phone.

My 2 sen.
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Okay, so bro, in your own opinion, do you think a ordinary screen protector is needed?
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I don't believe in using SP but for this phone no choice because the anti shatter film gets scratches easily
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I don't believe in using SP but for this phone no choice because the anti shatter film gets scratches easily
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Oh. So it's better to get a screen protector eh? Hmm. An ETA on Screen Protectors and Casing?
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Please add me in the user list for black color, was getting it at Ikano, and it's even come with the free gifts. I was surprised at first as the Sony store at curve refused to sell it before the release date on the first August.

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Please add me in the user list for black color, was getting it at Ikano, and it's even come with the free gifts. I was surprised at first as the Sony store at curve refused to sell it before the release date on the first August.
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Please add me in the user list for black color, was getting it at Ikano, and it's even come with the free gifts. I was surprised at first as the Sony store at curve refused to sell it before the release date on the first August.
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My sales receipt was purposely dated 1aug as they are not supposed to sell it earlier!!
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My sales receipt  was purposely dated  1aug as they are not supposed to sell it earlier!!
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Please add me in the user list for black color, was getting it at Ikano, and it's even come with the free gifts. I was surprised at first as the Sony store at curve refused to sell it before the release date on the first August.
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Can i know what is the free gifts???
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My receipt was also forward dated at first August. The free gifts is still the same like other store, power back and the silly goodie bag, maybe that bag can be used to carry the ketupat
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Not every Sony Center got free gifts. But usually is powerbank and bag.
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z ultra speaker to me louder than my xz..xz is really soft.
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Some benchmark figures

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Wow..... blazingly fast indeed !!

Does the ZU get excessively hot under prolonged processor load ?

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Wow..... blazingly fast indeed !!
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The writing using stylus so far I can only use pencil. It doesn't work with my old ballpen n plastic stylus
You can only use Sony keyboard n must select write mode n write on the pad. I see no point using it as it is too troublesome to invoke it. You need to write slowly to have accurate capture. I rate it hopeless to me.
At first I thought can just write straightaway on any note app without all these constraints

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Wow..... blazingly fast indeed !!

Does the ZU get excessively hot under prolonged processor load ?
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I was using it non stop past 3-4 hours installing stuff, checking mail, news feed n tweeter plus browsing all on 3g n hardly feel any serious warmness n phone connected to portable charger
Average battery temperature 35-38 degree C

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So far I would say only audio quality is soft though speakers. And this is main weaknes. Phone is excellent in all other aspects. Sound is quite similar to stock xperia z...... Hope to see pureX audio tweak as in XZ available soon
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Phonecall speaker have too much noise.is that true ?

does ringtone loud enough when you got some call.
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The writing using stylus so far I can only use pencil. It doesn't work with my old ballpen n plastic stylus
You can only use Sony keyboard n must select write mode n write on the pad. I see no point using it as it is too troublesome to invoke it.  You need to write slowly to have accurate capture. I rate it hopeless to me.
At first I thought can just write straightaway on any note app without all these constraints
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Shucks. ...not like the Note 2 eh?
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Shucks. ...not like the Note 2 eh?
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Phonecall speaker have too much noise.is that true ?

does ringtone loud enough when you got some call.
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Don’t seem to have any noise while receiving calls
Phone speakers is generally soft like XZ
You need to choose a loud Ringtone yourself. The default ones are all poor

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Please add me in the user list for black color, was getting it at Ikano, and it's even come with the free gifts. I was surprised at first as the Sony store at curve refused to sell it before the release date on the first August.
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The writing using stylus so far I can only use pencil. It doesn't work with my old ballpen n plastic stylus
You can only use Sony keyboard n must select write mode n write on the pad. I see no point using it as it is too troublesome to invoke it.  You need to write slowly to have accurate capture. I rate it hopeless to me.
At first I thought can just write straightaway on any note app without all these constraints
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This was my biggest worry of all, and unfortunately it is true after what you said. Many reviews and hands-on so far did not even mention this issue. I guess this is another gimmick for the ZU and everybody would have thought they would be at least equal to Note 2's stylus performance, or better since this one allows pencil usage. Now it all boils down to the thinness of the phone, the display quality, screen size, waterproofing and blazing performance as the things going for it, but not sure if these are enough. Hmmm. Thanks for highlighting this Benny!
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 27 2013, 11:09 PM)
So far I would say only audio quality is soft though speakers. And this is main weaknes.  Phone is excellent in all other aspects. Sound is quite similar to stock xperia z...... Hope to see pureX audio tweak as in XZ available soon
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How is the battery life?
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 27 2013, 10:57 PM)
I was using it non stop past 3-4 hours installing stuff, checking mail, news feed n tweeter plus browsing all on 3g n hardly feel any serious warmness n phone connected to portable charger
Average battery temperature 35-38 degree C
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So seems the weakness is the input via pen, hope Sony can improve in near firmware even though I believe I will not frequent use it but some user might need it.

As for loud speaker, I never put high hope on it.

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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 28 2013, 12:01 AM)
This was my biggest worry of all, and unfortunately it is true after what you said. Many reviews and hands-on so far did not even mention this issue. I guess this is another gimmick for the ZU and everybody would have thought they would be at least equal to Note 2's stylus performance, or better since this one allows pencil usage. Now it all boils down to the thinness of the phone, the display quality, screen size, waterproofing and blazing performance as the things going for it, but not sure if these are enough. Hmmm. Thanks for highlighting this Benny!
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 27 2013, 10:53 PM)
The writing using stylus so far I can only use pencil. It doesn't work with my old ballpen n plastic stylus
You can only use Sony keyboard n must select write mode n write on the pad. I see no point using it as it is too troublesome to invoke it.  You need to write slowly to have accurate capture. I rate it hopeless to me.
At first I thought can just write straightaway on any note app without all these constraints
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Shucks. ...not like the Note 2 eh?
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Note 2 stylus is completely different class.  An insult to Note2 to even compare
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This was my biggest worry of all, and unfortunately it is true after what you said. Many reviews and hands-on so far did not even mention this issue. I guess this is another gimmick for the ZU and everybody would have thought they would be at least equal to Note 2's stylus performance, or better since this one allows pencil usage. Now it all boils down to the thinness of the phone, the display quality, screen size, waterproofing and blazing performance as the things going for it, but not sure if these are enough. Hmmm. Thanks for highlighting this Benny!
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So seems the weakness is the input via pen, hope Sony can improve in near firmware even though I believe I will not frequent use it but some user might need it.

As for loud speaker, I never put high hope on it.
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Well I would say that was the first thing I looked out for ever since they started showing videos. @deddo kindly did the demo on failed palm rejection for us all yesterday, and IINM, he is the first person in the world to do it. Nobody else has picked up on this in the West since they haven't gotten their hands on it, and I think the HK review site only did conductive stylus testing without considering palm rejection either.

Fail on writing as a gimmick, but otherwise useful as a smaller-than-7-inch-device.

I do not think firmware will solve the palm rejection as it has to do with the digitizer hardware differentiating between 2 conductive areas.

A Wacom digitizer can differentiate between the resonant stylus vs your body's resistance, and this is, IMHO, not present in the XZU digitizer.


Thank you uncle for your resounding vote for the Note 2 stylus.
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Weird..yesterday the staff said no free gift. How much did u buy it including the gifts?
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Excellent 3g/h+. Best ever recorded in my town Batu Pahat. This area is one of the stronger areas which usually hover around 8000kbps

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Well I would say that was the first thing I looked out for ever since they started showing videos. @deddo kindly did the demo on failed palm rejection for us all yesterday, and IINM, he is the first person in the world to do it. Nobody else has picked up on this in the West since they haven't gotten their hands on it, and I think the HK review site only did conductive stylus testing without considering palm rejection either.

Fail on writing as a gimmick, but otherwise useful as a smaller-than-7-inch-device.

I do not think firmware will solve the palm rejection as it has to do with the digitizer hardware differentiating between 2 conductive areas.

A Wacom digitizer can differentiate between the resonant stylus vs your body's resistance, and this is, IMHO, not present in the XZU digitizer.
Thank you uncle for your resounding vote for the Note 2 stylus.
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Writing mode will not work even with a slight touch of your palm on the display.
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Another excellent 3g speed. This kopitiam I frequent usually only around 4000-5000 kbps

Btw I am on Maxis

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Excellent 3g/h+.  Best ever recorded in my town Batu Pahat.  This area is one of the stronger areas which usually hover around 8000kbps

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Writing mode will not work even with a slight touch of your palm on the display.
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This is an update on battery usage. First of all, my phone was ONLY being charge using a Powerocks 12000mAh powerpack. I have yet to charge it using live AC till now. And phone was continually being charge while it was being used yesterday. I took off the charger at about 97% and than restarted the phone
Battery I'd say is not yet fully being charged and optimised yet

Phone was put on Stamina mode. This is the battery drain over 6+ hours lastnight with 3G on , GPS on ( forgot to disable it), WiFi off. I'd say the stamina mode is working very well as the drain is hardly 2%

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Browsing, checking mails, newsfeed, tweeter on 3G/H+ : Average 12-13% /hour battery drain
Video playback ( HD video) using MX Player Pro : About 10% /hour
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Sample shoot and click camera shots taken . These are all on 7MPX ( 3104x2328 (4:3) with HDR on and all rest of settings as default.
I am not a pro when coming to take photos
I find the shots are satisfactory


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Sample shoot and click camera shots taken . These are all on 7MPX ( 3104x2328 (4:3) with HDR on and all rest of settings as default.
I am not a pro when coming to take photos
I find the shots are satisfactory
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QUOTE(joytest @ Jul 28 2013, 03:19 AM)
Well I would say that was the first thing I looked out for ever since they started showing videos. @deddo kindly did the demo on failed palm rejection for us all yesterday, and IINM, he is the first person in the world to do it. Nobody else has picked up on this in the West since they haven't gotten their hands on it, and I think the HK review site only did conductive stylus testing without considering palm rejection either.

Fail on writing as a gimmick, but otherwise useful as a smaller-than-7-inch-device.

I do not think firmware will solve the palm rejection as it has to do with the digitizer hardware differentiating between 2 conductive areas.

A Wacom digitizer can differentiate between the resonant stylus vs your body's resistance, and this is, IMHO, not present in the XZU digitizer.
Thank you uncle for your resounding vote for the Note 2 stylus.
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Quick update on Screen on time : Started off at 96% and at 47 % battery usage , I recorded 3 hours . So if projected, reaching 6 hours SOT shouldn't be a problem. The 3 hours usage this morning was on browsing, email, RSS newsfeed, ( all on 3G) , taking photos and an hour video playback

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 10:51 AM)
Quick update on Screen on time : Started off at 96% and at 47 % battery usage , I recorded 3 hours . So if projected, reaching 6 hours SOT shouldn't be a problem. The 3 hours usage this morning was on browsing, email, RSS newsfeed, ( all on 3G) , taking photos and an hour video playback

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Looks good despite battery still new. You set to auto brightness ?

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Quick update on Screen on time : Started off at 96% and at 47 % battery usage , I recorded 3 hours . So if projected, reaching 6 hours SOT shouldn't be a problem. The 3 hours usage this morning was on browsing, email, RSS newsfeed, ( all on 3G) , taking photos and an hour video playback

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How if compared to Ascend Mate or Mega? I think pretty much the same as Mega.
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Looks good despite battery still new. You set to auto brightness ?
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How if compared to Ascend Mate or Mega? I think pretty much the same as Mega.
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I'd say it seems to be comparable to both Mega/Mate but the XZU standby mode is definitely more superior as it really works just as well as the smaller XZ. I only had this phone less than a day and the battery usage results I'd say is very good
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If any of your palm/fingers is resting on the display, you CANNOT type or swype !!!
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This is one of major issue then.... Hope Sony can fix it in future.
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This is one of major issue then.... Hope Sony can fix it in future.
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Not a serious issue as the phone is big enough for you to hold it especially the bottom bexel is close to 1.6 cm high
I don't need to touch the display to do any typing

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Maybe I will try to root it later today
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Belum lah !! No reason to root yet as no custom kernel, tweal\ks, roms yet. Will definitely do it once I see purexaudio tweak is out. This tweak does real wonders to the sound quality of the Xperia Z
Maybe I will try to root it later today
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Not a serious issue as the phone is big enough for you to hold it especially the bottom bexel is close to 1.6 cm high
I don't need to touch the display to do any typing
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I just try out my current Z, and I just know actually I never touch the screen at all during typing/swiping. Haha! It really not a issue then. biggrin.gif
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Super excited that you guys are lucky enough to have it already smile.gif

Could someone please comment on how reading text - pdf/web browsing compares to something like the note 2?

Screenshots of a text pdf in portrait would be much appreciated smile.gif
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Sample shoot and click camera shots taken . These are all on 7MPX ( 3104x2328 (4:3) with HDR on and all rest of settings as default.
I am not a pro when coming to take photos
I find the shots are satisfactory
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Thanks for the sample snap, just download some. The quality is slightly wax but still in acceptable level, hope Sony can improve better in future and reduce the compression & post processing, it seems some edge issue happen due to high compression and post processing.

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Super excited that you guys are lucky enough to have it already smile.gif

Could someone please comment on how reading text - pdf/web browsing compares to something like the note 2?

Screenshots of a text pdf in portrait would be much appreciated smile.gif
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Im interested to know to but judging from the spec. Snapdragon 800 literally can handle pdf and heavy browsing like peanuts plus that trilluminous 1080p display!
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Im interested to know to but judging from the spec. Snapdragon 800 literally can handle pdf and heavy browsing like peanuts plus that trilluminous 1080p display!
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More interested to see how good 1080p on a 6"+ screen actually is specifically for reading text - vs. a 720p screen (like galaxy mega 6.3, or huawei ascend mate). Is there actually a tangible day to day difference? Or do you really have to use a magnifying glass to tell? Does it allow you to read smaller text without zooming?

The processor shouldn't be a issue in my opinion - my note 2 handles large (500mb+ sometimes) PDFs just fine. SmartQ Reader is best for just reading imo (fastest), but if you want annotation features than ezpdf is best.

Would love someone who actually owns one to comment on the above smile.gif Still tossing up whether to buy this or a 6.3 galaxy mega/ascend mate as its ~$400 difference at the moment. Is the 1080p vs 720p on a 6"+ screen worth it? rclxub.gif

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Seem Sony KLCC is not selling Xperia Z Ultra today and told after 1st August. Have anyone brought it from here yesterday and today.
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Seem Sony KLCC is not selling Xperia Z Ultra today and told after 1st August. Have anyone brought it from here yesterday and today.
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So now they actually have stock but not willing to sell anymore until 1st August.
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QUOTE(plasmapuff @ Jul 28 2013, 12:30 PM)
More interested to see how good 1080p on a 6"+ screen actually is specifically for reading text - vs. a 720p screen (like galaxy mega 6.3, or huawei ascend mate). Is there actually a tangible day to day difference? Or do you really have to use a magnifying glass to tell? Does it allow you to read smaller text without zooming?

The processor shouldn't be a issue in my opinion - my note 2 handles large (500mb+ sometimes) PDFs just fine. SmartQ Reader is best for just reading imo (fastest), but if you want annotation features than ezpdf is best.

Would love someone who actually owns one to comment on the above smile.gif Still tossing up whether to buy this or a 6.3 galaxy mega/ascend mate as its ~$400 difference at the moment. Is the 1080p vs 720p on a 6"+ screen worth it? rclxub.gif

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I have to repeat again, the screen really amazed me. Seems like can't turn back anymore. tongue.gif

But seems like Snapdragon 600 and 800 not feel too much difference. But loading page more faster. nod.gif

Btw TS, mine set is White color ya. smile.gif
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QUOTE(plasmapuff @ Jul 28 2013, 12:16 PM)
Super excited that you guys are lucky enough to have it already smile.gif

Could someone please comment on how reading text - pdf/web browsing compares to something like the note 2?

Screenshots of a text pdf in portrait would be much appreciated smile.gif
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QUOTE(plasmapuff @ Jul 28 2013, 12:30 PM)
More interested to see how good 1080p on a 6"+ screen actually is specifically for reading text - vs. a 720p screen (like galaxy mega 6.3, or huawei ascend mate). Is there actually a tangible day to day difference? Or do you really have to use a magnifying glass to tell? Does it allow you to read smaller text without zooming?

The processor shouldn't be a issue in my opinion - my note 2 handles large (500mb+ sometimes) PDFs just fine. SmartQ Reader is best for just reading imo (fastest), but if you want annotation features than ezpdf is best.

Would love someone who actually owns one to comment on the above smile.gif Still tossing up whether to buy this or a 6.3 galaxy mega/ascend mate as its ~$400 difference at the moment. Is the 1080p vs 720p on a 6"+ screen worth it? rclxub.gif

Thanks heaps in advance smile.gif
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Price difference between Mega/Mate with this is not rm400 but is rm800. I will be interested to know where you can get the XZU for just rm1.8k
Paying rm800 extra just for display is not worth it. The XZU has more to offer besides a nicer better display
Go n view these phones yourself as your taste /requirements is different from others
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Thanks for the sample snap, just download some. The quality is slightly wax but still in acceptable level, hope Sony can improve better in future and reduce the compression & post processing, it seems some edge issue happen due to high compression and post processing.
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How some web pages look on the XZU. I am using Boat browser

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 12:18 PM)
Price difference between Mega/Mate with this is not rm400 but is rm800. I will be interested to know where you can get the XZU for just rm1.8k
Paying rm800 extra just for display is not worth it.  The XZU has more to offer besides a nicer better display
Go n view these phones yourself as your taste /requirements is different from others
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Thanks Benny888 smile.gif

Is it possible to get a screenshot of something like theverge.com /engadget.com on desktop mode?

Want to compare how much further 1080p goes for browsing smile.gif

I'm essentially after the biggest screen I can fit in my pocket. At the moment its between the XZU and Galaxy Mega 6.3.

In Australia, at the moment there is going to be a ~$400 AU price difference at launch for the XZU. (Mega $450, XZU $850+).

For me if I can read text more clearly without zooming in for pdf and web browsing then I'd consider it.

Thanks heaps in advance! smile.gif You guys are so lucky smile.gif
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This is the verge site. I can easily read without zooming

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Thanks Benny smile.gif

What zoom level are you using in boat browser?

I'm using text scaling 100% and default zoom medium and I have a wider FOV on my note 2 for some reason.

Thanks again!
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Thanks Benny smile.gif

What zoom level are you using in boat browser?

I'm using text scaling 100% and default zoom medium and I have a wider FOV on my note 2 for some reason.

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Zoom medium n text scaling 170%

Your Australia prices are indeed more expensive

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This is the verge site.  I can easily read without zooming

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Very nice. Certainly beats the Note 2 for reading (without zooming) as the PPI is much higher.

Want to ask, does this Z Ultra have the 'double-tap-to-wake' function just like Tablet Z? I think I saw a video on the Z Ultra doing it, but not sure if I'm mistaken.

Hope you can clarify, Thanks in advance Benny!
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One thing I'm curious, do you get people staring at you one kind when you answer the phone outside? Ie.. why is that fella holding a brick?

Or just no attention coz a lot of larger phones in the market nowadays?
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Anyone got the Sony NFC enabled Bluetooth headset SBH 52 with the Z ultra ? How much is it? Hope Sony will offer a package deal when they launch the LTE version later.

Saw the you tube reviews on the SBH 52. Very impressive and certainly practical for use compared to holding the mammoth to your ears during a call.
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QUOTE(DannyOP @ Jul 28 2013, 02:36 PM)
One thing I'm curious, do you get people staring at you one kind  when you answer the phone outside? Ie.. why is that fella holding a brick?

Or just no attention coz a lot of larger phones in the market nowadays?
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Very nice. Certainly beats the Note 2 for reading (without zooming) as the PPI is much higher.

Want to ask, does this Z Ultra have the 'double-tap-to-wake' function just like Tablet Z? I think I saw a video on the Z Ultra doing it, but not sure if I'm mistaken.

Hope you can clarify, Thanks in advance Benny!
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One thing I'm curious, do you get people staring at you one kind  when you answer the phone outside? Ie.. why is that fella holding a brick?

Or just no attention coz a lot of larger phones in the market nowadays?
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Good for people to stare man.

It's a new kind of status symbol tongue.gif
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Sorry to be a pain, but is it possible to do the same screen shot with only 100% text scaling? With 170% scaling, I can also read it very clearly on my note 2 tongue.gif

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Indeed - and that prices is through a grey importer from asia as well!! Local prices are even higher! Thus the reason I'm taking the time/deliberation to make sure I get the right device for my needs. If I'm getting it purely for the screen - is it worth an extra $400 AU? tongue.gif

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This is the verge site on my HUAWEI Mate (720p 6.1 inch display). Just to compare with the XZU

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I believe you can definitely take better camera shots than me.
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After get my Z Ultra, will try take some photos together with Z (will restore to origin stock), to see the different.

I believe this Z Ultra same behavior as Z, need SCN mode or Manual mode to get better output quality photo. smile.gif
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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Jul 28 2013, 01:06 PM)
I have to repeat again, the screen really amazed me. Seems like can't turn back anymore.  tongue.gif

But seems like Snapdragon 600 and 800 not feel too much difference. But loading page more faster.  nod.gif

Btw TS, mine set is White color ya. smile.gif
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Plasmapuff : I don't understand why you want to view it at 100% when at a higher % you can even read clearer n all contents still being displayed
Anyway here it is at 100%
I suggest you test n view such stuffs at the store yourself to satisfy your curiosity
Like Chinese saying you are given an inch but now you want a foot

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Any photo how does the XZU fit into your jeans? show us how does it look during standing and sitting position tongue.gif Thanks!
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 05:09 PM)
Plasmapuff : I don't understand why you want to view it at 100% when at a higher % you can even read clearer n all contents still being displayed
Anyway here it is at 100%
I suggest you test n view such stuffs at the store yourself to satisfy your curiosity
Like Chinese saying you are given an inch but now you want a foot

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Thanks Benny for your patience smile.gif

At 100%, you can view more content on the page no? The point of having 1080p is so that you can read small text without zooming? So if you can read text clearly at 100% (instead of needing 170%) - isn't this a good thing?

The problem is that in Australia - Samsung has said the Galaxy mega will never be launched here, while the XZU wont get here until mid september at the earliest! So I will never by fortunate enough to see these models in person before purchasing sad.gif

Will stop bugging you- thanks for your understanding smile.gif
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One thing I'm curious, do you get people staring at you one kind  when you answer the phone outside? Ie.. why is that fella holding a brick?

Or just no attention coz a lot of larger phones in the market nowadays?
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Infact when I was in KL yesterday saw so many chaps using even samsung 7-8 inch tablets holding it to the ears


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QUOTE(meaow @ Jul 28 2013, 04:12 PM)
Any photo how does the XZU fit into your jeans? show us how does it look during standing and sitting position tongue.gif Thanks!
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it fits to all my shorts perfectly
im size 34~36
trousers jeans hvnt try..no picture..cuz i lazy upload xDD
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to all future owner of XZU be rdy for the camera,its bad really,no joke
but other den dat... its all Xperia Z Ultra <<< Orz

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it fits to all my shorts perfectly
im size 34~36
trousers jeans hvnt try..no picture..cuz i lazy upload xDD
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to all future owner of XZU be rdy for the camera,its bad really,no joke
but other den dat... its all    Xperia Z Ultra  <<<  Orz
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Please post your pics to show how bad it is
I have posted mine today
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Please post your pics to show how bad it is
I have posted mine today
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..can i give link to my fb >< cuz i really lazy ><>< and as u guys can see very new to the forum ><
duno how it works and stuff biggrin.gif
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Please post your pics to show how bad it is
I have posted mine today
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..can i give link to my fb >< cuz i really lazy ><>< and as u guys can see very new to the forum ><
duno how it works and stuff biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(plasmapuff @ Jul 28 2013, 03:14 PM)
Thanks Benny for your patience smile.gif

At 100%, you can view more content on the page no? The point of having 1080p is so that you can read small text without zooming? So if you can read text clearly at 100% (instead of needing 170%) - isn't this a good thing?

The problem is that in Australia - Samsung has said the Galaxy mega will never be launched here, while the XZU wont get here until mid september at the earliest! So I will never by fortunate enough to see these models in person before purchasing sad.gif

Will stop bugging you- thanks for your understanding smile.gif
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I always set at least 150% n still can view all content
As far as possible I will use alternative mobile site if available
Anyway I am old chap age 58 n my eyesight not that good vs my younger days
I have also the mega 6.3 n Mate 6.1 n in general both display is very good too. If budget is a constraint both will meet your needs too. Paying extra A$400 just for better display is not worth it
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 03:26 PM)
..can i give link to my fb >< cuz i really lazy ><>< and as u guys can see very new to the forum ><
duno how it works and stuff biggrin.gif
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If your FB link is public view, or else no one can see.

Actually simply easier. during reply, click more options, then you can click IMG to insert image link. (You need upload your photos to others place 1st, example flickr).
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 04:27 PM)
I always set at least 150% n still can view all content
As far as possible I will use alternative mobile site if available
Anyway I am old chap age 58 n my eyesight not that good vs my younger days
I have also the mega 6.3 n Mate 6.1 n in general both display is very good too.  If budget is a constraint both will meet your needs too.  Paying extra A$400 just for better display is not worth it
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let me help out abit ><
erm...content on the XZU is awesome..
i can see everything in Chrome and Dolphin with default setting i duno the zoom etc etc
crystal clear,maybe some special small character need to zoom. but..i only zoom when i need to click on SMALL stuff xDD
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QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 28 2013, 02:37 PM)
Anyone got the Sony NFC enabled Bluetooth headset SBH 52 with the Z ultra ?  How much is it?  Hope Sony will offer a package deal when they launch the LTE version later.

Saw the you tube reviews on the SBH 52.  Very impressive and certainly practical for use compared to holding the mammoth to your ears during a call.
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sony will bring this in later part and will be quite costly..above rm300 i heard
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you guys should shoot a hands-on video and upload to youtube... it will blows most youtube reviewers out !! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Do it before Aug 1
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you guys should shoot a hands-on video and upload to youtube... it will blows most youtube reviewers out !!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Do it before Aug 1
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tbh..i dont think it will be good if we do dat.. Sony KLCC kena shoot from above already..
if we do anything more..den even others outlet kena shoot..i feel bad for them...
dat day i go buy the guy also like scared scared
and thr's no display banner whatsoever at the shop..
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I don't find anything wrong using it
Infact when I was in KL yesterday saw so many chaps using even samsung 7-8 inch tablets holding it to the ears
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Still find it ridiculous with 7-8 inch tablets though.

I see, guess its become more common already. Can consider lah nod.gif

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..can i give link to my fb >< cuz i really lazy ><>< and as u guys can see very new to the forum ><
duno how it works and stuff biggrin.gif
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Please post your link n open it to public view
Otherwise your bad is unclear at all to us
Do you find my pics bad. I only consider it satisfactory
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tbh..i dont think it will be good if we do dat.. Sony KLCC kena shoot from above already..
if we do anything more..den even others outlet kena shoot..i feel bad for them...
dat day i go buy the guy also like scared scared
and thr's no display banner whatsoever at the shop..
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or do complete review now and post it to youtube before everyone shoot unbox review at Aug 1. thumbup.gif
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I always set at least 150% n still can view all content
As far as possible I will use alternative mobile site if available
Anyway I am old chap age 58 n my eyesight not that good vs my younger days
I have also the mega 6.3 n Mate 6.1 n in general both display is very good too.  If budget is a constraint both will meet your needs too.  Paying extra A$400 just for better display is not worth it
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What do u do with so many phones lying around? I also under if I'm overdoing my upgrades. Just few months ago using nexus 4 then HTC one and now considering this smile.gif
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or do complete review now and post it to youtube before everyone shoot unbox review at Aug 1.  thumbup.gif
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they can have it~ xDD
im satisfy already,no nid share xDD
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Please post your link n open it to public view
Otherwise your bad is unclear at all to us
Do you find my pics bad. I only consider it satisfactory
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ok..uncle benny call dao~

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=587...&type=1&theater

if u ask me..it feels like its drawn on my phone using some apps xD
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Here even in Kuching the shop keeper say stock have arrived , black / white only. No purple. Can sell to willing buyer but postdate your receipt .

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ok..uncle benny call dao~

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=587...&type=1&theater

if u ask me..it feels like its drawn on my phone using some apps xD
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 03:34 PM)
tbh..i dont think it will be good if we do dat.. Sony KLCC kena shoot from above already..
if we do anything more..den even others outlet kena shoot..i feel bad for them...
dat day i go buy the guy also like scared scared
and thr's no display banner whatsoever at the shop..
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How about other SONY Center? kena shoot also?
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You only snap one photo (the box) to justified the camera quality?  hmm.gif
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more den 10...all is lidat..im not purposely saying its bad..it is bad..
cuz i think..XZU screen is too good..so yeah...8mp maybe not enugh for this beast it reveals all the noise ><
but its k~ i dont shoot much.. u can ask all XZU user..
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How about other SONY Center? kena shoot also?
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hvnt i guess..im not sure..i no ask..cuz they cant actualy sell it YET..
its not even launch ><
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Can you please make the album public so that we can see?

You only made the first photo public!!
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hvnt i guess..im not sure..i no ask..cuz they cant actualy sell it YET..
its not even launch ><
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The centre I collected it from is not selling either n no advert/posters too. They said only after 1aug can they sell only. My receipt was dated 1aug. I got mine thro special arrangements through a nice forumer here with the center boss.

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What do u do with so many phones lying around? I also under if I'm overdoing my upgrades. Just few months ago using nexus 4 then HTC one and now considering this smile.gif
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 01:52 PM)
This is the verge site.  I can easily read without zooming

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omggg, that is so poisonous. I'm a huge fans of reading verge site! With this, no need to zoom anymore rclxms.gif

how's the performance in The Verge site? Their website known for many images
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How's the black level and viewing angles of this phone? Is it as good as the HTC One /Butterfly?
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jul 28 2013, 04:53 PM)
omggg, that is so poisonous. I'm a huge fans of reading verge site! With this, no need to zoom anymore  rclxms.gif

how's the performance in The Verge site? Their website known for many images
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Loads very quickly . This phone is a beast lah!! Check the benchmark I posted yesterday
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Loads very quickly . This phone is a beast lah!! Check the benchmark I posted yesterday
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what a stupid question I ask lol and the battery life is something I love too  drool.gif
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You can set that only in tablet xperia z under setting /display.  No such feature on the phone

Update on my SOT : started at 96% n now  reach 77% battery usage n recorded 5.25 hours.  So projected phone can hit 6.8 hours at 100% usage

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Battery life rated at 3k mAh similar to Note II, which is better?
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Battery life rated at 3k mAh similar to Note II, which is better?
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Quite similar to Note 2 - this again depends a lot on what you do with the phone
This phone standby mode ( due to its stamina mode) outclass the Note 2 and all other phones I have used to date ( except Xperia Z)
I can also easily achieved 6-7 hours SOT on the Note

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its taken by my XZU so u guys can check the quality..
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White most probably but maybe wait for LTE
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 07:15 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=588...&type=1&theater

just notice this biggrin.gif
its taken by my XZU so u guys can check the quality..
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Andrewtst a Xperia Z user will tell you try not to use the Superior Auto mode to take shots. I am not a pro photographer and I would agree too that auto shots are often poorer
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Quite similar to Note 2 - this again depends a lot on what you do with the phone
This phone standby mode ( due to its stamina mode) outclass the Note 2 and all other phones I have used to date ( except Xperia Z)
I can also easily achieved 6-7 hours SOT on the Note
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I see. Btw, is it practical to use a 6.4" phablet as your primary phone on a daily basis?
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 07:15 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=588...&type=1&theater

just notice this biggrin.gif
its taken by my XZU so u guys can check the quality..
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That is something like ZL where got special hole to force restart/shutdown the device.

From your picture, it clearly show the same symptom as in Xperia Z in earlier .434 firmware where too much post processing apply. Sony! I think you need to fired the whole group people that involved in camera software part, they all dunno what is call good quality output.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 07:15 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=588...&type=1&theater

just notice this biggrin.gif
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LOL what is that for? hmm.gif crash OS?
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LOL what is that for?  hmm.gif crash OS?
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a button dat u hope u wont be using xDD
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HardRest button was olden days. Didn't expect Sony to resolve to that sweat.gif
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I see. Btw, is it practical to use a 6.4" phablet as your primary phone on a daily basis?
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Why not ?? Again my needs are different from yours
I always have no issues handling a big size phone . Since Note 2 ( 5.5), I have progressed to Pantech Vega No6 ( 5.9 inch), Mega 6.3 ( 6.3 inch), Mate ( 6.1 inch)
My phone fits very well into my pants side pockets. I can even put in a Galaxy Tab 7.7 inside but not an ipad mini
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:26 PM)
Why not ?? Again my needs are different from yours
I always have no issues handling a big size phone . Since Note 2 ( 5.5), I have progressed to Pantech Vega No6 ( 5.9 inch), Mega 6.3 ( 6.3 inch), Mate ( 6.1 inch)
My phone fits very well into my pants side pockets. I can even put in a Galaxy Tab 7.7 inside but not an ipad mini
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Wow you pocket very big biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:26 PM)
Why not ?? Again my needs are different from yours
I always have no issues handling a big size phone . Since Note 2 ( 5.5), I have progressed to Pantech Vega No6 ( 5.9 inch), Mega 6.3 ( 6.3 inch), Mate ( 6.1 inch)
My phone fits very well into my pants side pockets. I can even put in a Galaxy Tab 7.7 inside but not an ipad mini
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I agree on that, I don't have or try the Xperia Z Ultra yet.

But I can 100% confirm as well Mega 6.3 can fit nicely in my jeans even when I seat on. I purposely try my friend Mega 6.3 yesterday and it fit nicely without issue. smile.gif
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Got to see this beast in person. Went to a Sony store to get a first-hand experience and was totally blown away by the screen. This phone is also a monster. Can't imagine using it as a normal phone.

I was swiping left and right and noticed some hesitation/lag in the scrolling which doesn't really do justice to the phone spec. Not sure if it is the unit on display.

I feel the price is spot-on for what you're getting. Would go for it as a tablet rather than a phablet because the size is great for browsing and media consumption.
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jul 28 2013, 08:27 PM)
Wow you pocket very big  biggrin.gif
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mine also can... XZU chun chun~ size 34~36

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Wow you pocket very big  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nas @ Jul 28 2013, 07:28 PM)
Got to see this beast in person. Went to a Sony store to get a first-hand experience and was totally blown away by the screen. This phone is also a monster. Can't imagine using it as a normal phone.

I was swiping left and right and noticed some hesitation/lag in the scrolling which doesn't really do justice to the phone spec. Not sure if it is the unit on display.

I feel the price is spot-on for what you're getting. Would go for it as  a tablet rather than a phablet because the size is great for browsing and media consumption.
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 07:28 PM)
mine also can... XZU chun chun~ size 34~36
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did you try on slim fit long pants? Not those very skinny one.
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Usually demo phone couldn't really justify the phone performance out of the box, it's been tortured by hundred of people lol
did you try on slim fit long pants? Not those very skinny one.
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slim fit for sure cannot la.. wahlau  laugh.gif
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I can easily insert this phone into the side pocket of my Evisu jeans.
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I can easily insert this phone into the side pocket of my Evisu jeans.
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That brand is usually massive size baggy jeans biggrin.gif
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Does the XZU fits the average shirt pocket?
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YES ; it fit for me except it will jut out by about 2.25 inch
Look at these photos - my regular T-Shirt, Short Sleeve and long sleeve shirt

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:26 PM)
Why not ?? Again my needs are different from yours
I always have no issues handling a big size phone . Since Note 2 ( 5.5), I have progressed to Pantech Vega No6 ( 5.9 inch), Mega 6.3 ( 6.3 inch), Mate ( 6.1 inch)
My phone fits very well into my pants side pockets. I can even put in a Galaxy Tab 7.7 inside but not an ipad mini
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Nice to hear. How about making/answering calls?

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 28 2013, 07:28 PM)
I agree on that, I don't have or try the Xperia Z Ultra yet.

But I can 100% confirm as well Mega 6.3 can fit nicely in my jeans even when I seat on. I purposely try my friend Mega 6.3 yesterday and it fit nicely without issue. smile.gif
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Do you know what happened to my SIII screen? It cracked from the INSIDE and I suspect that it's due to my tight jeans pocket (Been wearing it for 1-2 weeks)
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QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 28 2013, 07:15 PM)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=588...&type=1&theater

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its taken by my XZU so u guys can check the quality..
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Haha.....coincidentally I had to force my xzu to shut down as it just hanged on me.
My guess is the "one tap shut down" app that I down loaded this morning was the culprit. Uninstalled!

Also took some pics inside some shops at klcc. As good as I would expect. No complaints.

Also starting to appreciate the album arrangements of the xperia after being so used to the Samsung's.

This must surely ranked as the most gorgeous looking mobile ever!! It would do great injustice to put a cover over it.

I would say it felt "less there" in the pocket as compared to the Note 2.

Bought this lovely creature at Sony Klcc just hours before they stopped selling it on Friday. No gifts but they recorded a rm45 bonus point in their system. No covers but only SPs on both sides for me! Please post where to buy SP asap if you come across any.

Happy as can be rclxm9.gif
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Wow you pocket very big  biggrin.gif
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I wear loose old man type baggy pants - lah !! Believe it or not - in my entire life I have NEVER wear a jeans before !!!
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Nice to hear. How about making/answering calls?
Do you know what happened to my SIII screen? It cracked from the INSIDE and I suspect that it's due to my tight jeans pocket (Been wearing it for 1-2 weeks)
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:45 PM)
I wear loose old man type baggy pants - lah !! Believe it or not - in my entire life I have NEVER wear a jeans before !!!
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:43 PM)
YES ;  it fit for me except it will jut out by about 2.25 inch
Look at these photos - my regular T-Shirt, Short Sleeve and long sleeve shirt

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Wow, the phone looks like a robber magnet worn like that! laugh.gif
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I wear loose old man type baggy pants - lah !! Believe it or not - in my entire life I have NEVER wear a jeans before !!!
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YES ;  it fit for me except it will jut out by about 2.25 inch
Look at these photos - my regular T-Shirt, Short Sleeve and long sleeve shirt

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perfect illustration for what I was asking for. Thanks uncle notworthy.gif
The protrusion out of the pocket looks horrible sweat.gif I normally put my Note 2 in the pocket and this is disaster laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zhi guo @ Jul 28 2013, 07:44 PM)
Haha.....coincidentally  I had to force my xzu to shut down as it just hanged on me.
My guess is the "one tap shut down" app that I down loaded this morning was the culprit. Uninstalled!

Also took some pics inside some shops at klcc. As good as I would expect.  No complaints.

Also starting to appreciate the album arrangements of the xperia after being so used to the Samsung's.

This must surely ranked as the most gorgeous looking mobile ever!! It would do great injustice to put a cover over it.

I would say it felt "less there" in the pocket as compared to the Note 2.

Bought this lovely creature at Sony Klcc just hours before they stopped selling it on Friday. No gifts but they recorded a rm45 bonus point in their system. No covers but only SPs on both sides for me! Please post where to buy SP asap  if you come across any.

Happy as can be  rclxm9.gif
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What is your phone color? So I can updates, also share some photos taken. smile.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jul 28 2013, 07:43 PM)
Nice to hear. How about making/answering calls?
Do you know what happened to my SIII screen? It cracked from the INSIDE and I suspect that it's due to my tight jeans pocket (Been wearing it for 1-2 weeks)
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Sorry : " How about making/answering calls?" - I find this a funny question ????
Just take out and swipe to take calls and use keypad to type in numbers or choose contact - what is the issue you are facing ??? If you are thinking of using one hand - than I will say is not advisable. This is meant to be use with 2 hands !! Even iphone 5 I use with 2 hands never single handed
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perfect illustration for what I was asking for. Thanks uncle  notworthy.gif
The protrusion out of the pocket looks horrible sweat.gif I normally put my Note 2 in the pocket and this is disaster laugh.gif
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I have no issues putting it in my shirt pocket except you must be careful not to bend over. However I have drop my Note 2 onto the road several times from the shirt pocket but it was well protected by my Melko leather flipcase - only slight scratches on case and phone is perfect. Melko flip cases is the best case I have used to date. Its clip at top is very strong and secure unlike other cheapo flipcases. I buy Melko for all my phones if they have such for it. The case normally cost RM100-120
For this XZU I will not be putting in my shirt pocket till I can find a strong flip case similar to Melko
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:50 PM)
Sorry : " How about making/answering calls?" - I find this a funny question ????
Just take out and swipe to take calls and use keypad to type in numbers or choose contact - what is the issue you are facing ??? If you are thinking of using one hand - than I will say is not advisable. This is meant to be use with 2 hands !! Even iphone 5 I use with 2 hands never single handed
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Right. Sounds stupid for me too. Recently many posts made me feel people are become ridiculous.

I leave forum cari coz most of them seems idiot. Always ask stupid question. Here better.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:55 PM)
I have no issues putting it in my shirt pocket except you must be careful not to bend over. However I have drop my Note 2 onto the road several times from the shirt pocket but it was well protected by my Melko leather flipcase - only slight scratches on case and phone is perfect. Melko flip cases is the best case I have used to date. Its clip at top is very strong and secure unlike other cheapo flipcases. I buy Melko for all my phones if they have such for it. The case normally cost RM100-120
For this XZU I will not be putting in my shirt pocket till I can find a strong flip case similar to Melko
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I have no problem putting it on my shirt pocket and never had dropped it before since a long time. I must say I drop my phone more when it's on my back pocket of my pants sweat.gif dropped twice with my Note 2 but luckily with UAG on it biggrin.gif
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What is your phone color? So I can updates, also share some photos taken. smile.gif
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Black it must be; to match the xperia tablet z. Sory can't post pics just taken. Subjects in photo prefer to be kept out. Next time maybe.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 07:50 PM)
Sorry : " How about making/answering calls?" - I find this a funny question ????
Just take out and swipe to take calls and use keypad to type in numbers or choose contact - what is the issue you are facing ??? If you are thinking of using one hand - than I will say is not advisable. This is meant to be use with 2 hands !! Even iphone 5 I use with 2 hands never single handed
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I mean do you pair it up with a bluetooth headset or something? Because due to the size of the phone, it might be difficult holding it up against your ear with one hand. And besides "that look", I may consider getting one but I will look terribly ridiculous when picking up calls/answering them.

So just want to hear from your experience smile.gif

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I mean do you pair it up with a bluetooth headset or something? Because due to the size of the phone, it might be difficult holding it up against your ear with one hand. And besides "that look", I may consider getting one but I will look terribly ridiculous when picking up calls/answering them.

So just want to hear from your experience smile.gif
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I NEVER like to use those bluetooth or wired headsets. I find these troublesome and a nuisance. Nothing beats holding it up to your ears. Even when driving, I will never take calls and will stop if I need to
How can it be difficult to hold it with one hand to your ears - it is not that gigantic. I have seen guys/ladies holding up 7-8 inch tablets to their ears so many times and that is even worse !!

This is a shot comparing it with the Tablet Xperia Z :

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I NEVER like to use those bluetooth or wired headsets. I find these troublesome and  a nuisance. Nothing beats holding it up to your ears. Even when driving, I will never take calls and will stop if I need to
How can it be difficult to hold it with one hand to your ears - it is not that gigantic. I have seen guys/ladies holding up 7-8 inch tablets to their ears so many times and that is even worse !!

This is a shot comparing it with the Tablet Xperia Z :

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 08:09 PM)
I NEVER like to use those bluetooth or wired headsets. I find these troublesome and  a nuisance. Nothing beats holding it up to your ears. Even when driving, I will never take calls and will stop if I need to
How can it be difficult to hold it with one hand to your ears - it is not that gigantic. I have seen guys/ladies holding up 7-8 inch tablets to their ears so many times and that is even worse !!

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I wonder how Note 3 and HTC One Max will respond since they are coming out soon with similar processors.

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owh yeah guys!
i notice a bug in XZU
which is the Keyboard when u use SMALL KEYBOARD means one handed use de..it doesnt SWYPE correctly... its like.. i dont know how understand..u all go try ><
or is it just my set o.o ><
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Putting it into the pocket is no problem but the problem is squatting when the phone is inside the pocket. Haha
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Black it must be; to match the xperia tablet z. Sory can't post pics just taken. Subjects in photo prefer to be kept out. Next time maybe.
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owh yeah guys!
i notice a bug in XZU
which is the Keyboard when u use SMALL KEYBOARD means one handed use de..it doesnt SWYPE correctly... its like.. i dont know how understand..u all go try ><
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Putting it into the pocket is no problem but the problem is squatting when the phone is inside the pocket. Haha
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May I know how you toggle to the smaller keyboard ?
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chnge to Chinese keyboard.. proceeed from thr uncle benny biggrin.gif

chinese keyboard can chnge to english..its nearly th same as stock android keybaord..but...the small keyboard cant swype ><
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Uncle you using your 2a ipad charger to charge this phone. Still?
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Hahaha bro. I see you cannot tahan already. Too gatal lah confirm? Me tooo. I might just dump my idea on getting LTE and might just get a White HSPA+ one.  tongue.gif
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Uncle you using your 2a ipad charger to charge this phone. Still?
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YES - never change my habit. Original cable/charger still in box. I noted the charger is 1.5A only
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Yah that's what I notice too.and this qualcomm chip support quick charg. 2.0 right? Regardless of what charger we use is that right?
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Hi, benny888

Can you screen capture the main interface and app drawer? Appreciate much as I just notice my friend show me which is still old Xperia Z look, also I just notice the box still showing current Xperia Z interface look but not the new look as what we seen at commercial.

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Hi, benny888

Can you screen capture the main interface and app drawer? Appreciate much as I just notice my friend show me which is still old Xperia Z look, also I just notice the box still showing current Xperia Z interface look but not the new look as what we seen at commercial.
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Hmmm.... How come......
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That is weird then.... No updates?

Hmmm.... How come......
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duno wor.. ><
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May I know how you toggle to the smaller keyboard ?
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To activate the smaller keyboard, activate the keyboard first, then hold the 'En' button, and there should be an option there for 'Mini Keyboard'. There you go! Tried the mini keyboard and yes it's just nice for one handed use.
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Hi, benny888

Can you screen capture the main interface and app drawer? Appreciate much as I just notice my friend show me which is still old Xperia Z look, also I just notice the box still showing current Xperia Z interface look but not the new look as what we seen at commercial.
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Mine already changed from original. So cannot show you
Which commercial are you referring to?
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Mine already changed from original. So cannot show you
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I can only assume local firmware is much older? Can check your firmware number whether same as first page ftf ROM post by Hong Kong user at XDA thread.
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This is mine. 14.1.B.0.461 which is same as that posted by beenoliu
Are you referring to this guy posting

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I thought the launcher suppose look like below where all is like that during announcing and also any of it current commercial look.

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Thought of getting the XPZ Ultra today. Went to KLCC and Mid Valley Sony Retail store and they don't sell the phone until 1st of August. What a bummer....
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This is mine. 14.1.B.0.461 which is same as that posted by beenoliu
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Oh, ok thanks. smile.gif As long it change to new look. smile.gif

Same then, my BP friend snap at shop still show old interface. Above Xsence telling me also old look.

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I thought the launcher suppose look like below where all is like that during announcing and also any of it current commercial look.

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That's the same launcher I saw on the demo XZU at Sony IPC just now too.

QUOTE(EricCYL @ Jul 28 2013, 10:53 PM)
Thought of getting the XPZ Ultra today. Went to KLCC and Mid Valley Sony Retail store and they don't sell the phone until 1st of August. What a bummer....
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Even if you get it today, you probably won't get the free 3500mah Sony Powerbank.

Better wait for 1st August official release for proper promotions.

I'm still thinking whether to go for this 3G model on 1st August or wait til the LTE version is out. If the LTE version is going to be out on end September, I'd rather get this now and later on change to something else (Note III, One Max, etc.).

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That's the same launcher I saw on the demo XZU at Sony IPC just now too.
Even if you get it today, you probably won't get the free 3500mah Sony Powerbank.

Better wait for 1st August official release for proper promotions.

I'm still thinking whether to go for this 3G model on 1st August or wait til the LTE version is out. If the LTE version is going to be out on end September, I'd rather get this now and later on change to something else (Note III, One Max, etc.).

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Thanks for confirm on interface. Weird why my friend show me one is old.
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Oh, ok thanks. smile.gif As long it change to new look. smile.gif

Same then, my BP friend snap at shop still show old interface. Above Xsence telling me also old look.
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That is indeed strange if there are some older versions around
Maybe their firmware is different
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That is indeed strange if there are some older versions around
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Ya, I also curious, below is the phone my friend snap at shop. He didn't buy yet, just see see only.

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Ya, I also curious, below is the phone my friend snap at shop. He didn't buy yet, just see see only.

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Aiyah! That is the homescreen next to the main screen. It shows only music widget
Left to main screen is weather n power control widget

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Ya, I also curious, below is the phone my friend snap at shop. He didn't buy yet, just see see only.

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I wonder what is the difference you are talking about. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 28 2013, 10:56 PM)
Even if you get it today, you probably won't get the free 3500mah Sony Powerbank.

Better wait for 1st August official release for proper promotions.

I'm still thinking whether to go for this 3G model on 1st August or wait til the LTE version is out. If the LTE version is going to be out on end September, I'd rather get this now and later on change to something else (Note III, One Max, etc.).

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I don't need the LTE model anyway, where i'm working at doesn't have LTE nor my home sweat.gif

But then again i was quite satisfy with the screen although there some slight blue tint comparing to my HTC One and friends One X screen drool.gif
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 11:13 PM)
Aiyah! That is the homescreen next to the main screen. It shows only music widget
Left to main screen is weather n power control widget
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Jul 28 2013, 11:16 PM)
I wonder what is the difference you are talking about.  rclxub.gif
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The center icon for the app drawer is not the same as the one in videos but similar to the one in Z/ZL
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Although LTE might be futureproof, but why the needs of very very high speed internet? for hotspot sharing and download? or the higher the better, nothing to lose.
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The center icon for the app drawer is not the same as the one in videos but similar to the one in Z/ZL
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DANG, sharp eyes! Andrewtst, is this what you talking about? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 11:13 PM)
Aiyah! That is the homescreen next to the main screen. It shows only music widget
Left to main screen is weather n power control widget
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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Jul 28 2013, 11:16 PM)
I wonder what is the difference you are talking about.  rclxub.gif
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Means you all didn't notice. The app drawer icon look different. Also that wallpaper is old one, not as advertise one.

Also advertise one settings menu background is white color instead of as you show just before in black.
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The center icon for the app drawer is not the same as the one in videos but similar to the one in Z/ZL
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DANG, sharp eyes! Andrewtst, is this what you talking about?  rclxms.gif
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Yup, that is what I talk about lo. Also the wallpaper is old one.

Not only that, the battery icon at status bar also is old design, not as show in commercial advertisement.

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Although LTE might be futureproof, but why the needs of very very high speed internet? for hotspot sharing and download? or the higher the better, nothing to lose.
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Bro, if you have used LTE before, it's a whole different world.

Latency is very low, almost instant response nearly as good as my Unifi fibre-optic. I'm enjoying LTE now on my iPhone 5, and previously HTC One and Z10.

Once the LTE XZU is out, it 'may' probably be at a higher RRP, so it's good to get the 3G version to save some money, or for people like me who prefer LTE, I'd get it first 'just in case' Sony delays the LTE version for Malaysia for whatever reason. Remember what happened to some Sony products like PS Vita that got delayed for many many months, better get and use the 3G XZU to the fullest first. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 28 2013, 10:56 PM)
That's the same launcher I saw on the demo XZU at Sony IPC just now too.
Even if you get it today, you probably won't get the free 3500mah Sony Powerbank.

Better wait for 1st August official release for proper promotions.

I'm still thinking whether to go for this 3G model on 1st August or wait til the LTE version is out. If the LTE version is going to be out on end September, I'd rather get this now and later on change to something else (Note III, One Max, etc.).

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well for me. i asked the sony centre worker. he said.
free gift. screen protector, casing.
so its from Sony Center. meaning original...screen protector and casing, drool.gif
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 28 2013, 11:28 PM)
Bro, if you have used LTE before, it's a whole different world.

Latency is very low, almost instant response nearly as good as my Unifi fibre-optic. I'm enjoying LTE now on my iPhone 5, and previously HTC One and Z10.

Once the LTE XZU is out, it 'may' probably be at a higher RRP, so it's good to get the 3G version to save some money, or for people like me who prefer LTE, I'd get it first 'just in case' Sony delays the LTE version for Malaysia for whatever reason. Remember what happened to some Sony products like PS Vita that got delayed for many many months, better get and use the 3G XZU to the fullest first. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bosouman @ Jul 28 2013, 11:28 PM)
well for me. i asked the sony centre worker. he said.
free gift. screen protector, casing.
so its from Sony Center. meaning original...screen protector and casing, drool.gif
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Is it the IPC branch? Or which branch you mean? When I checked with the salesgirl there she said no accessories arrived yet for the XZU. If there is indeed Screen Protector and Case, awesome! Only after 1st August sale is it? And did they mention that they will still give the Sony Powerbank? Cheers

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This is the new wallpaper but battery icon in old design.

Maybe Sony change back the design at the end? hmm.gif due to the new app drawer icon look copycat from Lenovo K900 design? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Is it the IPC branch? Or which branch you mean? When I checked with the salesgirl there she said no accessories arrived yet for the XZU. If there is indeed Screen Protector and Case, awesome! Only after 1st August sale is it? And did they mention that they will still give the Sony Powerbank? Cheers
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 28 2013, 11:32 PM)
Is it the IPC branch? Or which branch you mean? When I checked with the salesgirl there she said no accessories arrived yet for the XZU. If there is indeed Screen Protector and Case, awesome! Only after 1st August sale is it? And did they mention that they will still give the Sony Powerbank? Cheers
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ipc branch? well im from sabah actually so sabah branch? XD
anyways back to the story. yes it hasn't arrive yet the accessories.
so my seller told me that he will call me when those screen protector and cassing arrive. so for now. i just have to get use with the screen protector given by the factory.
i did asked about the powerbank.. and i think the answers is no. just screen protector and casing.
anyways i'd prefer protection than battery. get what i mean biggrin.gif
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Does the shattered sheet is scratch resistant? Because i don't plant to use screen protector. sweat.gif

Btw, so sad Sony didn't use IPS panel. Such a downside for big monster like this. I bet viewing angle must be awful like my previous ZL. sad.gif

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Does the shattered sheet is scratch resistant? Because i don't plant to use screen protector. sweat.gif

Btw, so sad Sony didn't use IPS panel. Such a downside for big monster like this. I bet viewing angle must be awful like my previous ZL.  sad.gif
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This Z Ultra has been rate one of the best screen, no viewing angle issue. Some even mention better than HTC One.
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This Z Ultra has been rate one of the best screen, no viewing angle issue. Some even mention better than HTC One.
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Finally found the Xperia Z Ultra unboxing.



The retail unit is preloaded with old interface, old wallpaper, old launcher, not the latest where show in the press! hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

At the end, it even show Bravia Engine 2 instead of X-Reality ... ...

It seems Sony is rush on it, hopefully soon new firmware will out with new interface and X-Reality.

I just check Sony Hong Kong site where mention new firmware with X-Reality will only be start rolling out from 9/Sept onwards.

http://www.sonymobile.com/hk/products/phon...fications/#tabs

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Guess I dun need to do any live covered during the launch since got few user adi! Congrate all on getting ZU smile.gif
Will be attend the launch this Thursday and wanna try compare the display with my HTC One
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 AM)
Finally found the Xperia Z Ultra unboxing.



The retail unit is preloaded with old interface, old wallpaper, old launcher, not the latest where show in the press!  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

At the end, it even show Bravia Engine 2 instead of X-Reality ... ...

It seems Sony is rush on it, hopefully soon new firmware will out with new interface and X-Reality.

I just check Sony Hong Kong site where mention new firmware with X-Reality will only be start rolling out from 9/Sept onwards.

http://www.sonymobile.com/hk/products/phon...fications/#tabs
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I believe Sony also rushed the launch of the Z and ZL before they optimised the firmware. Took 2 updates to fix most of their shortcomings and they issued it pretty quickly.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 AM)
Finally found the Xperia Z Ultra unboxing.



The retail unit is preloaded with old interface, old wallpaper, old launcher, not the latest where show in the press!  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

At the end, it even show Bravia Engine 2 instead of X-Reality ... ...

It seems Sony is rush on it, hopefully soon new firmware will out with new interface and X-Reality.

I just check Sony Hong Kong site where mention new firmware with X-Reality will only be start rolling out from 9/Sept onwards.

http://www.sonymobile.com/hk/products/phon...fications/#tabs
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This looks slimmer than xpz.. Will it be comfortable to hold?
Also the right side i think it earphone port? Its not covered like xpz..meaning can use earphone underwater?
And what is that weird looking on the left side..for dock? So they move the speaker below right? Better than xpz

Quite big but not really interested.. Maybe because i use xpz before..
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After a day usage 6.5 hours SOT
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My Xperia SP can tahan less than that
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Guess I dun need to do any live covered during the launch since got few user adi! Congrate all on getting ZU smile.gif
Will be attend the launch this Thursday and wanna try compare the display with my HTC One
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 10:54 PM)
After a day usage 6.5 hours SOT
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i lost the fight.
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Does the shattered sheet is scratch resistant? Because i don't plant to use screen protector. sweat.gif

Btw, so sad Sony didn't use IPS panel. Such a downside for big monster like this. I bet viewing angle must be awful like my previous ZL.  sad.gif
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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Jul 29 2013, 06:03 AM)
I'm losing the fight bro. I just can't take it ady. This phone really is a beauty. Getting it during Raya Holidays cause will be coming over to KL from Seremban to live with my parents. I'll go get it at 1Utama, Curve and IkanoPC.  icon_idea.gif
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I understand your feeling bro.... this thread makes most of us having big holes in our pockets sad.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 AM)
Finally found the Xperia Z Ultra unboxing.



The retail unit is preloaded with old interface, old wallpaper, old launcher, not the latest where show in the press!  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

At the end, it even show Bravia Engine 2 instead of X-Reality ... ...

It seems Sony is rush on it, hopefully soon new firmware will out with new interface and X-Reality.

I just check Sony Hong Kong site where mention new firmware with X-Reality will only be start rolling out from 9/Sept onwards.

http://www.sonymobile.com/hk/products/phon...fications/#tabs
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Is this problem being experienced by XZU's in Malaysia? Can an owner rectify whether your ZU's have the new interface, new wallpapers and new launcher and X-Reality like how it was advertised? I don't wanna buy one and get stuck on something outdated and would have to wait till 9 Sept for a new Firmware to be released. Thanks. notworthy.gif
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7 hours overnight with only 3g on battery drain is 0%. This is great . The drain is so low that it is recorded as zero. Again proof stamina mode is amazing
This is second day of using the phone n first time charged to 100% using AC. First day charged using powerrocks 12000mah powerband n phone being used while under charged

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QUOTE(creative zn @ Jul 29 2013, 12:19 AM)
Does the shattered sheet is scratch resistant? Because i don't plant to use screen protector. sweat.gif

Btw, so sad Sony didn't use IPS panel. Such a downside for big monster like this. I bet viewing angle must be awful like my previous ZL.  sad.gif
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As in XZ the anti shatter film is not scratch proof. I did not bother to even have a SP in my previous XZ. Display perfect on the day after 3 months I sold it.
The XZ was not my main working phone. This time I plan to get a SP as this XZU will be my main phone.

Display is best I have seen to date n I prefer it over HTC1 n S4. There is no viewing angle problem unlike XZ. Only the background tone is slight yellowish as I prefer a bluish tone

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 06:53 AM)
7 hours overnight with only 3g on battery drain is 0%. This is great . The drain is so low that it is recorded as zero. Again proof stamina mode is amazing
This is second day of using the phone n first time charged to 100% using AC. First day charged using powerrocks 12000mah powerband n phone being used while under charged

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Wow uncle. The stamina mode is really amazing!
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Wow uncle. The stamina mode is really amazing!
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You can get similar results using the smaller XZ
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As in XZ the anti shatter film is not scratch proof. I did not bother to even have a SP in my previous XZ.
Hi Uncle,
Can the anti shatter flim peel off hmm.gif ? Hate to use the SP whistling.gif
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Can the anti shatter flim peel off  hmm.gif ? Hate to use the SP   whistling.gif
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Yes but I read warranty will be void. Don't know how true. In the XZ the Sony logo is printedhard the film.
knows whether it is so in this phone?

The film is so well done you can hardly see it unlike the XZ.

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Yes but I read warranty will be void.  Don't know how true.  In the XZ the Sony logo is printedhard the film. 
knows whether it is so in this phone?

The film is so well done you can hardly see it unlike the XZ.
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I demoed the XZ U & I'm sold.

This is definitely my S3 replacement. Big enough to read manga & ebook, slim enough to fit in my pocket along with my other phones.
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I have switched to using Holo Launcher. Very impressed with its smoothness n performance vs Nova my previous favorite in all my other Androids
So I have cleaned up the original default UI. This is how it looks. So Andrewtst is this new or old ?
You don't see Chrome at dock as I have disabled it

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I have switched to using Holo Launcher. Very impressed with its smoothness n performance vs Nova my previous favorite in all my other Androids
So I have cleaned up the original default UI. This is how it looks. So Andrewtst is this new or old ?
You don't see Chrome at dock as I have disabled it


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Still old, u can see the App Drawer icon is different than advertised.
Battery Icon should be Vertical/Standing, but as you can see here is Horizontal, like X Z / X ZL

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This is the pulldown from taskbar. I have added in another row of toggles
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I'm losing the fight bro. I just can't take it ady. This phone really is a beauty. Getting it during Raya Holidays cause will be coming over to KL from Seremban to live with my parents. I'll go get it at 1Utama, Curve and IkanoPC.  icon_idea.gif
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tongue.gif told u, u can't resist this device.
my 1st impression of using this device. everything looks preety good.
animes,movies, games, facebook.
it's like watching those HDTV demo on sony centres drool.gif
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This is the pulldown from taskbar. I have added in another row of toggles
So I supposed these icons are the older type too

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Better don't compare, one will look tiny. I compared mine and got poison already.
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I have switched to using Holo Launcher. Very impressed with its smoothness n performance vs Nova my previous favorite in all my other Androids
So I have cleaned up the original default UI. This is how it looks. So Andrewtst is this new or old ?
You don't see Chrome at dock as I have disabled it

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It is old, as from all your screenshot which show old design.

New design app drawer icon is different, battery icon at status bar is different, the wallpaper is different, the whole settings is in white background not black. Also inside app drawer where you can swipe from left side to access more options. New interface is exact look like leak honami rom.
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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Jul 29 2013, 02:45 AM)
This looks slimmer than xpz.. Will it be comfortable to hold?
Also the right side i think it earphone port? Its not covered like xpz..meaning can use earphone underwater?
And what is that weird looking on the left side..for dock? So they move the speaker below right? Better than xpz

Quite big but not really interested.. Maybe because i use xpz before..
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I don't have yet but going to get one. Don't see any issue holding it.

The earphone port is water proof also even thought they is no more cap on it.

That is charging port which is magnetic type now and will be as standard for Sony future device, Sony will make all future charging dock compatible which means no need keep repurchase it.
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Hi uncle, did you add in the extra toggle row from a built-in setting or via a widget (Notification Toggle) ?
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I set it from Settings/Personalization/Quick Settings : you will see a listing of up to 15 toggles - but can only choose up to 10 toggles to be displayed

This is how the phone looks in my hand - gigantic ?? NO . Large - yes but I can handle it easily

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I have taken comparison shots of this phone vs Mega 6.3 and HuaWei Mate for its display. The latter 2 phones are 720p. This would be of interest to forumer plasmapuff who is undecided between these 3 phones. Personally I'd say paying a difference of A$400 for just a better display in the XZU is not worth it
All these 3 phones are set its maximum brightness
The photos not well shot as is taken from my Tablet Xperia Z. The web pages I can tell you, you can read every single word without zooming in all the 3 phones ( all at 100% text setting)


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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 10:29 AM)
I have taken comparison shots of this phone vs Mega 6.3 and HuaWei Mate for its display. The latter 2 phones are 720p. This would be of interest to forumer plasmapuff who is undecided between these 3 phones. Personally I'd say paying a difference of A$400 for just a better display in the XZU is not worth it
All these 3 phones are set its maximum brightness
The photos not well shot as is taken from my Tablet Xperia Z. The web pages I can tell you, you can read every single word without zooming in all the 3 phones ( all at 100% text setting)
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Xperia Z Ultra seem got higher contrast blush.gif

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Xperia Z Ultra seem got higher contrast  blush.gif
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Yes, overall the XZU looks better BUT if you don't compare, the Mega 6.3 and the Mate 6.1 is as good as it is. These 2 phones are only 720p and the price difference is RM800 !!!
Plasmapuff said in Australia , the price difference is worse at A$400 !!!
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benny888 Thanks for the comparison, the screen look awesome!

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Yes, overall the XZU looks better BUT if you don't compare, the Mega 6.3 and the Mate 6.1 is as good as it is. These 2 phones are only 720p and the price difference is RM800 !!!
Plasmapuff said in Australia , the price difference is worse at A$400 !!!
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and Mega have flash + air view + LTE...

Sound like Mega is better deal than UZ... rclxms.gif
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Yes, overall the XZU looks better BUT if you don't compare, the Mega 6.3 and the Mate 6.1 is as good as it is. These 2 phones are only 720p and the price difference is RM800 !!!
Plasmapuff said in Australia , the price difference is worse at A$400 !!!
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and Mega have flash + air view + LTE...

Sound like Mega is better deal than UZ...  rclxms.gif
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waterproof.
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and Mega have flash + air view + LTE...

Sound like Mega is better deal than UZ...  rclxms.gif
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tho as i remembered processor of xzu is better.
waterproof.
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Exactly, XZU doesnt boast ONLY a better screen, but the latest, and fastest chipset IMO. Summore 1st in the market to field a snapdragon 800. You also get Water + Dust resistant, and also a sleek design (compared to the standard looking mega). For me, RM800 is worth it. smile.gif but A$400 is overkill.

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 10:29 AM)
I have taken comparison shots of this phone vs Mega 6.3 and HuaWei Mate for its display. The latter 2 phones are 720p. This would be of interest to forumer plasmapuff who is undecided between these 3 phones. Personally I'd say paying a difference of A$400 for just a better display in the XZU is not worth it
All these 3 phones are set its maximum brightness
The photos not well shot as is taken from my Tablet Xperia Z. The web pages I can tell you, you can read every single word without zooming in all the 3 phones ( all at 100% text setting)
Hi Uncle,
i thought FHD should have display more compare to 720p? why zu display the same amount of content compare to the two hmm.gif ?
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[quote=Fasap,Jul 29 2013, 11:09 AM]
quote=gogo2,Jul 29 2013, 10:55 AM]
and Mega have flash + air view + LTE...

Sound like Mega is better deal than UZ... rclxms.gif
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Exactly, XZU doesnt boast ONLY a better screen, but the latest, and fastest chipset IMO. Summore 1st in the market to field a snapdragon 800. You also get Water + Dust proof, and also a sleek design (compared to the standard looking mega). For me, RM800 is worth it. smile.gif but A$400 is overkill.
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My point was paying RM800 extra for the XZU just for the better display is not worth it. But RM800 for the faster processor and its other features is OK

Those who want a phablet and constrained by a tight budget, both the Mega 6.3 and Mate at RM1300+ is indeed a good buy. These 2 phones are quite similar in performances and I have posted my views on their respective threads together with benchmarks. The Mega 6.3 is classified as a mid range phone ( cos is dual core ) BUT personally I find it more than mid range as its performance is close to high end. It is the best Samsung phone I have used besides the Note 2. Both phones have excellent battery life, the Mate has a slight edge though with its higher 4000 mAh battery.
The Mate has an added advantage that by default you can install apps onto external SDcard ( up to 64 GB Fat 32 formatted). I am still impressed with the Mate for its OS stability/performance and was my first China branded phone
The Mate however can only support FAT32 64GB card not default exFAT

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i thought FHD should have display more compare to 720p? why zu display the same amount of content compare to the two  hmm.gif ?
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Base on DPI set, you can't set much smaller, later will be too tiny.everything.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 10:11 AM)
I set it from Settings/Personalization/Quick Settings : you will see a listing of up to 15 toggles - but can only choose up to 10 toggles to be displayed

This is how the phone looks in my hand - gigantic ?? NO . Large - yes but I can handle it easily

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The phone is so thin, it looks fragile when put inside the pocket. Besides the official case cover which will increase thickness and possibly difficulty in putting inside the pockets, are there any good cases or bumpers around? The non-book case type
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excellent, just wan conformation...
ur xzu is 3G model rite? no LTE?
no flashlight?
how is the pencil stylus, fast and accurate?
can u rest ur hand on the phone and write with pencil?
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i think i better reply here tongue.gif (quote taken from mega thread)

excellent, just wan conformation...
ur xzu is 3G model rite? no LTE?
no flashlight?
how is the pencil stylus, fast and accurate?
can u rest ur hand on the phone and write with pencil?
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i help answer XP
So far only 3G enable model. LTE coming on Sept most probably.
cannot rest on hand and write with pencil
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Just got my ZU

The screen is nice....
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i help answer XP
So far only 3G enable model. LTE coming on Sept most probably.
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Sept drool.gif
found any different when write with note2 stylus... compare to pencil stylus?
no stylus/finger airview too rite...?
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Sept  drool.gif
found any different when write with note2 stylus... compare to pencil stylus?
no stylus/finger airview too rite...?
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I would said note 2 stylus is better since it integrated with wacom, got pressure press as well.
ZU gimmick just allowed u use whichever cheap stylus, pencil and pen that has carbon tip head to write and act like normal stylus.
no airview
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Sept  drool.gif
found any different when write with note2 stylus... compare to pencil stylus?
no stylus/finger airview too rite...?
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dont even compare to note 2 stylus. different stylus technolgy used~!

if using the stylus and writing is very important for you please refrain from buying this phone. palm rejection will make you go crazy.
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jul 29 2013, 12:19 PM)
Sept  drool.gif
found any different when write with note2 stylus... compare to pencil stylus?
no stylus/finger airview too rite...?
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Cannot compare to Note 2 stylus which is a specially programmed hardware/software tool. The Note 2 S Pen outclass this stylus writing ability of the XZU
For writing ability/flexibility/accuracy - if I rate Note 2 a grade 10, the writing ability of this XZU will score a miserable 2 or possibly 1 only
I have posted before the difficulty and troublesome using the stylus to write ( so far succeeded using pencil only ; my old ballpen and Windows plastic stylus cannot work)

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u all just shatter my expectation...
pencil stylus is my highest regards
when unker rate it 2points... i can feel many ppl tear r coming out
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i read note3 will comeout with 3 variant 5.5, 5.7 and 5.9
but given sammie usual style...
i speculate 5.7 will get sd800... 5.5 and 5.9 will get sd600 sad.gif

i think i better stay wit 6.3 for now
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u all just shatter my expectation...
pencil stylus is my highest regards
when unker rate it 2points... i can feel many ppl tear r coming out
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i read note3 will comeout with 3 variant 5.5, 5.7 and 5.9
but given sammie usual style...
i speculate 5.7 will get sd800... 5.5 and 5.9 will get sd600 sad.gif

i think i better stay wit 6.3 for now
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jul 29 2013, 12:36 PM)
u all just shatter my expectation...
pencil stylus is my highest regards
when unker rate it 2points... i can feel many ppl tear r coming out
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i read note3 will comeout with 3 variant 5.5, 5.7 and 5.9
but given sammie usual style...
i speculate 5.7 will get sd800... 5.5 and 5.9 will get sd600 sad.gif

i think i better stay wit 6.3 for now
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For those who value stylus input the zu doesn't cut it at all. I tested it too.

Apart from this if u want a big media consumption device it's fine.
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jul 29 2013, 12:36 PM)
u all just shatter my expectation...
pencil stylus is my highest regards
when unker rate it 2points... i can feel many ppl tear r coming out
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i read note3 will comeout with 3 variant 5.5, 5.7 and 5.9
but given sammie usual style...
i speculate 5.7 will get sd800... 5.5 and 5.9 will get sd600 sad.gif

i think i better stay wit 6.3 for now
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The writing ability of the XZU is just gimmicky and I find it completely not practical. Taking short on the spur notes is still OK and definitely not for extensive writing
If you have used the Note 2 S Pen before you will cursed this XZU writing ability
All the advert n posted youtube videos NEVER show the real situation
First you must/only can use the Sony keyboard
Launch any note app than select PEN from keyboard. You will get a writing pad about 4 cm high
The recognition of my writing ( need to do very slowly) is horrible - accuracy is less than 20% - meaning 8/10 times it fail to recognize my writing. I get frustrated using it. Faster to use keyboard to type. I cannot do any sketching at all
I got the impression based on the demo videos that it can do free writing and possibly sketching - I was terribly wrong
It would be great if just like Note 2 , straightaway I can write and draw on any note app

And never allow any part of your palm to touch the display as the writing will not work

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jul 29 2013, 12:36 PM)
u all just shatter my expectation...
pencil stylus is my highest regards
when unker rate it 2points... i can feel many ppl tear r coming out
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i read note3 will comeout with 3 variant 5.5, 5.7 and 5.9
but given sammie usual style...
i speculate 5.7 will get sd800... 5.5 and 5.9 will get sd600 sad.gif

i think i better stay wit 6.3 for now
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Or could go get asus fonepad note.

Got active digitizer as well as 2 front facing stereo speakers.
But 6" FHD screen only
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jump from s4 to XZU ok kah? i am aiming at nexus 7 becos i wan a device that i am able to read ebooks, watch movies, gaming stuff when i go offshore. I already have TF300 10.1inch tablet but it was too heavy for handheld purpose. now got this XZU looks like i can get something best of both worlds, a phone and a tablet.
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7 hours overnight with only 3g on battery drain is 0%. This is great . The drain is so low that it is recorded as zero. Again proof stamina mode is amazing
This is second day of using the phone n first time charged to 100% using AC. First day charged using powerrocks 12000mah powerband n phone being used while under charged

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 29 2013, 01:34 PM)
jump from s4 to XZU ok kah? i am aiming at nexus 7 becos i wan a device that i am able to read ebooks, watch movies, gaming stuff when i go offshore. I already have TF300 10.1inch tablet but it was too heavy for handheld purpose. now got this XZU looks like i can get something best of both worlds, a phone and a tablet.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 PM)
The writing ability of the XZU is just gimmicky and I find it completely not practical. Taking short on the spur notes is still OK and definitely not for extensive writing
If you have used the Note 2 S Pen before you will cursed this XZU writing ability
All the advert n posted youtube videos NEVER show the real situation
First you must/only can use the Sony keyboard
Launch any note app than select PEN from keyboard. You will get a writing pad about 4 cm high
The recognition of my writing ( need to do very slowly) is horrible - accuracy is less than 20% - meaning 8/10 times it fail to recognize my writing. I get frustrated using it. Faster to use keyboard to type. I cannot do any sketching at all
I got the impression based on the demo videos that it can do free writing and possibly sketching - I was terribly wrong
It would be great if just like Note 2 , straightaway I can write and draw on any note app

And never allow any part of your palm to touch the display as the writing will not work

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Thanks for the detailed explanation on the stylus inputs boss thumbup.gif

Now people need to strike the 'stylus' experience out from XZU capabilities as it is more of a gimmick only. sweat.gif
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And never allow any part of your palm to touch the display as the writing will not work
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as user of Galaxy Mega, I think yes. Its quite usable. My wife watch TVB series on it. 6.44" already approaching 7" Nexus which people use to watch movie and read ebook.
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oh ok.. but then the only thing i wan at XZU is a active stylus, but it dont have sad.gif note 3 also no news now. if no stylus also ok la.. i still prefer bringing a note to jot something down, u know la, bringing out a phone during meeting with a bunch of engineers is like ppl tot u playing phone lol..
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:42 PM)
oh ok.. but then the only thing i wan at XZU is a active stylus, but it dont have sad.gif note 3 also no news now. if no stylus also ok la.. i still prefer bringing a note to jot something down, u know la, bringing out a phone during meeting with a bunch of engineers is like ppl tot u playing phone lol..
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real world scenario when you really wanna take some note down, what in the world is faster than a paper and pen? even on note 2 is cumbersome to say the least.
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+ 1

real world scenario when you really wanna take some note down, what in the world is faster than a paper and pen? even on note 2 is cumbersome to say the least.
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i think writing on phone is just good when u wan to present something, digitally. But if u are not doing artistic stuff, some capacitive stylus is good enuf, just tat u have to bring along something with u >< i like the fact for note 2 that the stylus is readily available.

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QUOTE(Fasap @ Jul 29 2013, 11:09 AM)
Exactly, XZU doesnt boast ONLY a better screen, but the latest, and fastest chipset IMO. Summore 1st in the market to field a snapdragon 800. You also get Water + Dust resistant, and also a sleek design (compared to the standard looking mega). For me, RM800 is worth it. smile.gif but A$400 is overkill.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 PM)
The writing ability of the XZU is just gimmicky and I find it completely not practical. Taking short on the spur notes is still OK and definitely not for extensive writing
If you have used the Note 2 S Pen before you will cursed this XZU writing ability
All the advert n posted youtube videos NEVER show the real situation
First you must/only can use the Sony keyboard
Launch any note app than select PEN from keyboard. You will get a writing pad about 4 cm high
The recognition of my writing ( need to do very slowly) is horrible - accuracy is less than 20% - meaning 8/10 times it fail to recognize my writing. I get frustrated using it. Faster to use keyboard to type. I cannot do any sketching at all
I got the impression based on the demo videos that it can do free writing and possibly sketching - I was terribly wrong
It would be great if just like Note 2 , straightaway I can write and draw on any note app

And never allow any part of your palm to touch the display as the writing will not work

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 29 2013, 01:42 PM)
oh ok.. but then the only thing i wan at XZU is a active stylus, but it dont have sad.gif note 3 also no news now. if no stylus also ok la.. i still prefer bringing a note to jot something down, u know la, bringing out a phone during meeting with a bunch of engineers is like ppl tot u playing phone lol..
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There's 2 reason to use stylus for normal user:-

1) Sign PDF document (very seldom unless you're businessman)
2) Internet browsing (can hover like mouse)

Other than that, stylus is for artist to do drawing. sweat.gif

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i think paper and pen is just good when u wan to present something, digitally. But if u are not doing artistic stuff, some capacitive stylus is good enuf, just tat u have to bring along something with u >< i like the fact for note 2 that the stylus is readily available.
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true.. i've use note 1 before..
sketching using stock S Memo...
i can say 80++% of accuracy.
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There's 2 reason to use stylus for normal user:-

1) Sign PDF document (very seldom unless you're businessman)
2) Internet browsing (can hover like mouse)

Other than that, stylus is for artist to do drawing.  sweat.gif
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1) jotting short notes during calls n meetings. The note2 CAN take notes during hour long meetings using s note or handy note by scribbling just like normal paper.

Pdf signing is not used unless legally recognized.
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1) jotting short notes during calls n meetings. The note2 CAN take notes during hour long meetings using s note or handy note by scribbling just like normal paper.

Pdf signing is not used unless legally recognized.
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1) jotting short notes during calls n meetings. The note2 CAN take notes during hour long meetings using s note or handy note by scribbling just like normal paper.

Pdf signing is not used unless legally recognized.
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1) true... but I never did that before... I'm very interested to get Note 3 now.

2) I've done many pdf signing with my HTC Flyer and yes, its legally recognised.
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1) jotting short notes during calls n meetings. The note2 CAN take notes during hour long meetings using s note or handy note by scribbling just like normal paper.

Pdf signing is not used unless legally recognized.
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For me, I used Note 1 and Note 2 previously. The stylus and writing is good to have but not necessary to have. I just play with the handwriting initially and after that, all the way never use it. Some might need it but for me, nope.. just initial hype that's all.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 12:53 PM)
The writing ability of the XZU is just gimmicky and I find it completely not practical. Taking short on the spur notes is still OK and definitely not for extensive writing
If you have used the Note 2 S Pen before you will cursed this XZU writing ability
All the advert n posted youtube videos NEVER show the real situation
First you must/only can use the Sony keyboard
Launch any note app than select PEN from keyboard. You will get a writing pad about 4 cm high
The recognition of my writing ( need to do very slowly) is horrible - accuracy is less than 20% - meaning 8/10 times it fail to recognize my writing. I get frustrated using it. Faster to use keyboard to type. I cannot do any sketching at all
I got the impression based on the demo videos that it can do free writing and possibly sketching - I was terribly wrong
It would be great if just like Note 2 , straightaway I can write and draw on any note app

And never allow any part of your palm to touch the display as the writing will not work

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thanx for the 'Honest' review...
someone should post this one page 1 blink.gif
it is better to get the fact rite before the real disappointment
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well i think xzu still excel, it hv water/dust proof feature by Default
no need 'Active' crap...
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Just got my ZU

The screen is nice....
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thanx for the 'Honest' review...
someone should post this one page 1  blink.gif
it is better to get the fact rite before the real disappointment
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well i think xzu still excel, it hv water/dust proof feature by Default
no need 'Active' crap...
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I not going to post that at front page 1st, currently the firmware at Xperia Z Ultra is not the latest where all get hands-on previously at press.

It did not use the latest home launcher, wallpaper and not even support X-Reality yet.

I assuming they still got improvement over it, it seems not that bad on what been seen on the hands-on for stylus part.

Lets wait until another firmware come out which in-corporate the exact X-Reality function & new home launcher, maybe Sony already work on it. Let get sometimes to Sony, wait for firmware updates, see how the situation before I ever mention it at main page.

If the stylus end-up still that gimmick, Sony really need more study and work on it.

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I not going to post that at front page 1st, currently the firmware at Xperia Z Ultra is not the latest where all get hands-on previously.

It did not use the latest home launcher, wallpaper and not even support X-Reality yet.

I assuming they still got improvement over it, it seems not that bad on what been seen on the hands-on for stylus part.

Lets wait until another firmware come out which in-corporate the exact X-Reality function & new home launcher, maybe Sony already work on it. Let get sometimes to Sony, wait for firmware updates, see how the situation before I ever mention it at main page.

If the stylus end-up still that gimmick, Sony really need more study and work on it.
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Dont know why Sony is rushing the XZU into the market. Even the latest firmware not up to date at retail. They already gained the techworld attention, hype and momentum with the Z line of mobiles and tablets, stints like this just make them look like bad again.

There should be some explanation from Sony side regarding the x-reality and firmware imho.
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why they wan to launch something that is not as advertised? Wow ok this is seriously fuk up. Sony at playstation have reputation of showing pre-rendered gameplay footage and CLAIMED as in game rendering since PS2 ( remember they show Toy story 2 game gameplay the graphics like movie but shit came out later. If they start to use this strategy at phone, my God.. i was just having good impression with this phone due to the size that is perfect for my usage..
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well, because they need to come out before Note 3. Else, no one will buy Z ultra.

Most phone come out with half baked firmware. I won't be surprise if they incorporate palm rejection in the next iteration of firmware.

Speaking of which, Galaxy Mega launched firmware is awesome. Work awesome right out of box thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 29 2013, 02:56 PM)
why they wan to launch something that is not as advertised? Wow ok this is seriously fuk up. Sony at playstation have reputation of showing pre-rendered gameplay footage and CLAIMED as in game rendering since PS2 ( remember they show Toy story 2 game gameplay the graphics like movie but shit came out later. If they start to use this strategy at phone, my God.. i was just having good impression with this phone due to the size that is perfect for my usage..
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Actually I am big suprise when I seen the launcher is the old design! They not in-corporate with X-Reality first is ok, but at least give the latest design home launcher, not the old one.

I already put some notes at 1st page regarding this issue.

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** Current release Xperia Z Ultra didn't use the latest firmware as what we seen at press yet, it still running old design Z/ZL home launcher and without X-Reality support.

** User also report stylus input is not as good as seen on press for current firmware.

** Sony Hong Kong site mention new firmware with X-Reality support will start rolling out beginning of 9/Sept/2013.
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QUOTE(Fasap @ Jul 29 2013, 03:03 PM)
Dont know why Sony is rushing the XZU into the market. Even the latest firmware not up to date at retail. They already gained the techworld attention, hype and momentum with the Z line of mobiles and tablets, stints like this just make them look like bad again.

There should be some explanation from Sony side regarding the x-reality and firmware imho.
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As I say above, smartphone market become very competitive and Samsung is the one to beat. Note3 is real challenger. That's why they advertised pencil writing. They hope to capture stylus phablet market from Note3.
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well, because they need to come out  before Note 3. Else, no one will buy Z ultra.

Most phone come out with half baked firmware. I won't be surprise if they incorporate palm rejection in the next iteration of firmware.

Speaking of which, Galaxy Mega launched firmware is awesome. Work awesome right out of box  thumbup.gif
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In my opinion, it still better out something similar with press, not that far big different, the new home launcher not only design different but different way of functionality as well.
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jul 29 2013, 03:04 PM)
just got mine yesterday.. no free gift yet. have to collect later..

really impress with the build and its display.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 29 2013, 02:56 PM)
why they wan to launch something that is not as advertised? Wow ok this is seriously fuk up. Sony at playstation have reputation of showing pre-rendered gameplay footage and CLAIMED as in game rendering since PS2 ( remember they show Toy story 2 game gameplay the graphics like movie but shit came out later. If they start to use this strategy at phone, my God.. i was just having good impression with this phone due to the size that is perfect for my usage..
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by market standard it is completed,
Sony is one of the brand that keep updating their smartphone up to latest for several line up.

I wouldn't recommend you buying Sony for the tech they offer but more of the design and features that available in their smartphone

My experience so far of course with Sony product

Xperia Z : default it become nice to hold and slim design with waterproof.
Xperia V : It was love and hate at first but kinda fit for the price it selling for compare to rival market included waterproof and battery remove-able
Xperia Acro S : Big brick(I really can't comment on this much because only a short time)
Xperia Go : Up and running on 4.1 very smooth and fast survived a 2nd floor drop use as primary
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jul 29 2013, 03:07 PM)
by market standard it is completed,
Sony is one of the brand that keep updating their smartphone up to latest for several line up.

I wouldn't recommend you buying Sony for the tech they offer but more of the design and features that available in their smartphone

My experience so far of course with Sony product

Xperia Z : default it become nice to hold and slim design with waterproof.
Xperia V : It was love and hate at first but kinda fit for the price it selling for compare to rival market included waterproof and battery remove-able
Xperia Acro S : Big brick(I really can't comment on this much because only a short time)
Xperia Go : Up and running on 4.1 very smooth and fast survived a 2nd floor drop use as primary
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I can't said it is complete, at least they shall out with complete new design (the launcher and visual touch-up) as what they show during press.

Now they out something using old design and the well talk X-Reality is not even put in yet.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 03:06 PM)
Ya, I believe we shall seen more improvement in next firmware updates, Sony need to sort it out. smile.gif

In my opinion, it still better out something similar with press, not that far big different, the new home launcher not only design different but different way of functionality as well.
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I agree with you somewhat.

Despite what uncle benny said that the pencil-input is limited to a small area in XZU now (if I read that right), perhaps in future they will make it able to input on entire screen, with palm rejection, etc.
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Hurm..i own a note 10.1 and have to say the s pens is abit too fancy laugh.gif
i mean it is nice to have it there that's all(for some cases)

but well XZU most interesting concept is open audio jack to me :v

Sony please
put that to your refreshed Xperia Go.
i like it sturdy and smooth.
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 03:11 PM)
I agree with you somewhat.

Despite what uncle benny said that the pencil-input is limited to a small area in XZU now (if I read that right), perhaps in future they will make it able to input on entire screen, with palm rejection, etc.
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Ya, give some times to Sony, it is obvious Sony rushing out this time. The software part probably only 80% complete.

Sony not even had time to push out to retailer set for latest firmware.

Those in press is those so call brown set, they do received test/newer firmware than retail unit.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 03:04 PM)
Actually I am big suprise when I seen the launcher is the old design! They not in-corporate with X-Reality first is ok, but at least give the latest design home launcher, not the old one.

I already put some notes at 1st page regarding this issue.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:05 PM)
As I say above, smartphone market become very competitive and Samsung is the one to beat. Note3 is real challenger. That's why they advertised pencil writing. They hope to capture stylus phablet market from Note3.
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My take on the stylus issue is that nobody actually tested palm rejection in any review so far. Uncles' review and deddo's are probably world firsts (Marehsia boleh !!!!)

And if you consider that using 2 point touch in most UI actions is supposed to mean zoom or pinch or scroll, you will never get any input with 2 points touching the screen. It is also the same in Note 2 when you have to use 2 fingers to sketch. With the S-pen, it will ignore your finger/palm and use the stylus as input.

However, palm rejection may (BIG may) be addressed by new firmware, although you have to consider Microsoft tried this for many years, and palm rejection ultimately ended up being handled by active digitizers which can differentiate active stylus input vs body capacitance.

In the case of the XZ, the CONDUCTIVE stylus you have to use is using your body's capacitance to "power" the stylus, so to the digitizer it will still "see" 2 finger touches, so I do not know if ever any kind of firmware update will fix this.

The only good thing is they managed to bring down the detection area from 4mm for standard capacitive screen to 1mm on their screen.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 03:17 PM)
Ya, give some times to Sony, it is obvious Sony rushing out this time. The software part probably only 80% complete.

Sony not even had time to push out to retailer set for latest firmware.

Those in press is those so call brown set, they do received test/newer firmware than retail unit.
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They don't even have LTE in Z ultra eventhough its flagship. Hahaha... that's how rush they want it to be in the market.

I would imagine if Note3 is out with S800 proc+3GB RAM, Z Ultra might lost the market. So they really need to capture it right now. sweat.gif
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They don't even have LTE in Z ultra eventhough its flagship. Hahaha... that's how rush they want it to be in the market.

I would imagine if Note3 is out with S800 proc+3GB RAM, Z Ultra might lost the market. So they really need to capture it right now.  sweat.gif
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Perhaps Sony wants to 'test waters' first with this 3G version of the XZU. I would imagine the LTE XZU to be priced at around RM 2499 which is quite expensive considering it has only 16GB on-board. If Sony did want to price the LTE version at such high prices, I would not expect they would bring it in soon, or ever if the 3G versions' sales are not doing well.
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 03:27 PM)
Perhaps Sony wants to 'test waters' first with this 3G version of the XZU. I would imagine the LTE XZU to be priced at around RM 2499 which is quite expensive considering it has only 16GB on-board. If Sony did want to price the LTE version at such high prices, I would not expect they would bring it in soon, or ever if the 3G versions' sales are not doing well.
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or maybe the repeat of S4 3G will happened. S4 3G start with RM2299. Now SME 3G set sometimes drop to RM16xx after S4 LTE arrived. cry.gif and then u can sell LTE XZU at RM2099 like what happened to S4 LTE cry.gif

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or maybe the repeat of S4 3G will happened. S4 3G start with RM2299. Now SME 3G set sometimes drop to RM16xx after S4 LTE arrived.  cry.gif
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Yes, this is the alternative plausible scenario.

But I really think that Sony will maintain the XZU 3G at RM2299 and XZU LTE at RM2499 because nothing in the market now comes close to the SD800 and 1080p 6.44" Screen, but most of all the 'Triluminous' tech is probably not cheap to manufacture either. Just take a look at the Sony Bravia TV range - those TV with 'Triluminous' tech are way more expensive than those without.

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:03 PM)
well, because they need to come out  before Note 3. Else, no one will buy Z ultra.

Most phone come out with half baked firmware. I won't be surprise if they incorporate palm rejection in the next iteration of firmware.

Speaking of which, Galaxy Mega launched firmware is awesome. Work awesome right out of box  thumbup.gif
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I read from some report that Samsung has about 90% share of the profits from Android products. So that leaves 10% for the many others to share.

However, I am of the opinion that Sony is making some headway this year and posing a challenge to Samsung's position.
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 03:27 PM)
Perhaps Sony wants to 'test waters' first with this 3G version of the XZU. I would imagine the LTE XZU to be priced at around RM 2499 which is quite expensive considering it has only 16GB on-board. If Sony did want to price the LTE version at such high prices, I would not expect they would bring it in soon, or ever if the 3G versions' sales are not doing well.
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Good point. I doubt they are just testing waters here considering how sony is releasing almost all the handsets they announce recently to malaysian shores (Z, ZL, Tab Z LTE, Tab Z wifi, ZR), high hope is still there for an LTE XZU imo.

But with a price tag of 2499, only tech / gadget enthusiasts, sony loyalists, and the rich lot are going to fork out cash for it early in its release. Or maybe people will just settle for the 3G version if they are planning to buy the XZU as a second device.
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QUOTE(funguss @ Jul 29 2013, 03:33 PM)
I read from some report that Samsung has about 90% share of the profits from Android products. So that leaves 10% for the many others to share.

However,  I am of the opinion that Sony is making some headway this year and posing a challenge to Samsung's position.
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I'm hopeful that Sony is making headway. Else, we'll be slave to Samsung dominance. laugh.gif



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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:20 PM)
They don't even have LTE in Z ultra eventhough its flagship. Hahaha... that's how rush they want it to be in the market.

I would imagine if Note3 is out with S800 proc+3GB RAM, Z Ultra might lost the market. So they really need to capture it right now.  sweat.gif
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No LTE 1st is acceptable, but I find it not really good is the UI still running the old one with old function.

Also cannot put in the X-Reality, but only Bravia Engine 2. Sony Hong Kong & UK site already change to bravia engine 2 in specifications and mention X-Reality coming soon.

I will bring up this issue at Sony forum after 1st of August which is the official release date at Malaysia.

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:29 PM)
or maybe the repeat of S4 3G will happened. S4 3G start with RM2299. Now SME 3G set sometimes drop to RM16xx after S4 LTE arrived.  cry.gif and then u can sell LTE XZU at RM2099 like what happened to S4 LTE  cry.gif
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High possible this is what Sony might do...

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 03:36 PM)
No LTE 1st is acceptable, but I find it not really good is the UI still running the old one with old function.

Also cannot put in the X-Reality, but only Bravia Engine 2. Sony Hong Kong, England already change to bravia engine 2 in specifications and mention X-Reality coming soon.
High possible this is what Sony might do...
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Im assuming sony has hit a snag in rolling out stable XZUs with X-reality and New home launcher or maybe they are going to compile it in a bigger roll-out.

Xperia Z & ZL in UK are currently getting OTA updates to the Sony apps as we speak (Walkman, Album, Movies).. maybe they save the hassle and integrate the whole package together in their next release to save resources?
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QUOTE(Fasap @ Jul 29 2013, 03:35 PM)
Good point. I doubt they are just testing waters here considering how sony is releasing almost all the handsets they announce recently to malaysian shores (Z, ZL, Tab Z LTE, Tab Z wifi, ZR), high hope is still there for an LTE XZU imo.

But with a price tag of 2499, only tech / gadget enthusiasts, sony loyalists, and the rich lot are going to fork out cash for it early in its release. Or maybe people will just settle for the 3G version if they are planning to buy the XZU as a second device.
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Correct, the price point of RM2499 is indeed too high to be competitive.

But then again, from what I read certain countries (like India, UK, Aus) are pricing the XZU at around RM2.5k-2.8k, but not sure if this refers to the 3G or LTE version.

All in all, a discount on the XZU is most welcome for most of us. After all, it isn't a phablet that most people would buy considering it's gigantic dimensions (minus the thinness).
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 03:27 PM)
Perhaps Sony wants to 'test waters' first with this 3G version of the XZU. I would imagine the LTE XZU to be priced at around RM 2499 which is quite expensive considering it has only 16GB on-board. If Sony did want to price the LTE version at such high prices, I would not expect they would bring it in soon, or ever if the 3G versions' sales are not doing well.
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Please don't say that sad.gif

I do hope the LTE version would come around.

Regarding the palm-rejection tech...I sort of have a wild theory. As joytest has mentioned...no one did a test for it. Could it be because the firmware isn't mature enough yet? So Sony is actually rushing to release the phone first, then fix it with the firmware later on? Which means they give out phones for reviews but tell the reviewers not to review that particular aspect?

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Just a wild thought really
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QUOTE(marquis @ Jul 29 2013, 03:43 PM)
Please don't say that sad.gif

I do hope the LTE version would come around.

Regarding the palm-rejection tech...I sort of have a wild theory. As joytest has mentioned...no one did a test for it. Could it be because the firmware isn't mature enough yet? So Sony is actually rushing to release the phone first, then fix it with the firmware later on? Which means they give out phones for reviews but tell the reviewers not to review that particular aspect?

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Just a wild thought really
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Well, because it's beyond me why Sony won't release the LTE version first or really even bother making a 3G version unless 'cost' is an issue for them. biggrin.gif

What joytest mention about palm-rejection does hold its truth. It could may well be physically not possible on the XZU screen, but there should be a way for the screen to detect 'large-surface' touches like palms. Same thing for how palm-rejection works for certain touchpads on laptops probably.

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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 03:54 PM)
Well, because it's beyond me why Sony won't release the LTE version first or really even bother making a 3G version unless 'cost' is an issue for them. biggrin.gif

What joytest mention about palm-rejection does hold its truth. It could may well be physically not possible on the XZU screen, but there should be a way for the screen to detect 'large-surface' touches like palms. Same thing for how palm-rejection works for certain touchpads on laptops probably.
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Because they have those 3G so called prototypes aka white mouse, which they wanna clear off their inventory first whistling.gif

And I also believe the later LTE models will follow the same price point of RM2299 where the 3G will discontinue.

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QUOTE(yupio @ Jul 29 2013, 04:04 PM)
Because they have those 3G so called prototypes aka white mouse, which they wanna clear off their inventory first  whistling.gif

And I also believe the later LTE models will follow the same price point of RM2299 where the 3G will discontinue.
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a lot of XZU 3G buyer in this thread will hate u for saying this sweat.gif

If following S4 3G and S4 LTE, the price point is different:-

S4 3G 16GB = RM2299
S4 LTE 32GB = RM2499

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 04:07 PM)
a lot of XZU 3G buyer in this thread will hate u for saying this  sweat.gif

If following S4 3G and S4 LTE, the price point is different:-

S4 3G 16GB = RM2299
S4 LTE 32GB = RM2499

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Truth cannot be hidden biggrin.gif but i think Sony is Sony, Samsung is samsung, samsung strategy is to flood the market with their phone, i believe Sony is not like that.
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QUOTE(yupio @ Jul 29 2013, 04:04 PM)
Because they have those 3G so called prototypes aka white mouse, which they wanna clear off their inventory first  whistling.gif

And I also believe the later LTE models will follow the same price point of RM2299 where the 3G will discontinue.
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My bet is 2499 for the XZU LTE version. 2499 is the new magic number for newly launched high end smartphones, furthermore, the XZU is the most powerful phone selling in the market at the moment. I doubt they will discontinue the 3G version so early though.
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I'm not sure why the huge fuss over the handwriting recognition input when the stock android keyboard or swiftkey is so accurate and efficient in text prediction, I wonder if that feature is really needed at all or simply another nice to have 'party trick' feature
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QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 04:16 PM)
I'm not sure why the huge fuss over the handwriting recognition input when the stock android keyboard or swiftkey is so accurate and efficient in text prediction, I wonder if that feature is really needed at all or simply another nice to have 'party trick' feature
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Im assuming sony has hit a snag in rolling out stable XZUs with X-reality and New home launcher or maybe they are going to compile it in a bigger roll-out.

Xperia Z & ZL in UK are currently getting OTA updates to the Sony apps as we speak (Walkman, Album, Movies).. maybe they save the hassle and integrate the whole package together in their next release to save resources?
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if u advertise it (with pencil writing) like its a must have feature , make sure it works like charm. Galaxy Note is awesome and everyone bought it feel satisfy because it work like as advertised.
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I'm not sure why the huge fuss over the handwriting recognition input when the stock android keyboard or swiftkey is so accurate and efficient in text prediction, I wonder if that feature is really needed at all or simply another nice to have 'party trick' feature
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You have a point there. I seriously wouldn't bother with handwriting recognition now. Swiftkey always does it for me.

However, the ability to draw / sketch over photos is quite useful in certain business line, and even leisure projects involving groups. Sony's tech that allows pencil or large-tipped ordinary pen usage makes convenient and negates the need to keep a stylus always with you.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 04:07 PM)
a lot of XZU 3G buyer in this thread will hate u for saying this  sweat.gif

If following S4 3G and S4 LTE, the price point is different:-

S4 3G 16GB = RM2299
S4 LTE 32GB = RM2499

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QUOTE(Fasap @ Jul 29 2013, 04:11 PM)
My bet is 2499 for the XZU LTE version. 2499 is the new magic number for newly launched high end smartphones, furthermore, the XZU is the most powerful phone selling in the market at the moment. I doubt they will discontinue the 3G version so early though.
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If its similar to Samsung S4, then a bump from RM2299 to RM2499 is fair because the capacity is doubled 16MB > 32MB as well.

If XZU is still keeping with 16MB for its LTE, then hmmm..... hmm.gif

But for those already got their XZU 3G, nonid to worry, even 3G version can have data speeds go up to over 10Mbps. I have frequently recorded speed tests of such speeds in 3G areas, I m using Maxis. Putting latency aside, such speed is more than enough for a handheld device such as XZU. Don't tell me u guys are torrenting with ur XZU sweat.gif
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Thanks so much for the pictures and review Benny888 smile.gif

I really want the XZU but am finding it hard to justify at the moment with your pictures showing marginal difference of the XZU 6.44" vs. Galaxy Mega 6.3 in the screen quality and reading. In theory 1080p sounds much better than 720p, but functionally for reading text, the pics don't show it.

For me at the moment-
- Galaxy Mega 6.3 8GB 4G LTE - AU$449 (1340RM)
- Huawei Ascend Mate - AU$375 (1120RM) - but this is only the 1GB Ram version which has been reported by many users to have lots of lag when multi tasking.
- Xperia ZU 4G LTE in September - AU$845 (2520RM)

As you can see there is a big difference on price, which is very hard to justify.

Pros of XZU over GM 6.3:
- Faster processor, more RAM which provides some degree of future proofing - although many reviews have praised the speed and responsiveness of the Mega 6.3, comparing it to the Note 2 which I have currently and am satisfied with
- Waterproof and slim - Don't personally think I will use the waterproof feature much at all. Slim - GM6.3 is very thin too, only 1.5mm difference vs. XZU. Also glass back is prob easier to break than plastic (as much as we deride plastic for being non-premium).
- In theory a sharper screen - but from the pics for text, there isn't much difference in terms of readability.
- Stylus writing - for what its worth even though its pretty poor.

Cons of XZU vs. GM 6.3
- Price - the XZU is almost the double the price of GM 6.3
- Lower screen to body surface area ratio - thicker bezels and onscreen buttons take up more of the phone.
- Camera +LED flash - arguably better photography on the GM 6.3 from what we've seen so far.

Arrrrhhh I really want the XZU...but lol so hard tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 04:16 PM)
I'm not sure why the huge fuss over the handwriting recognition input when the stock android keyboard or swiftkey is so accurate and efficient in text prediction, I wonder if that feature is really needed at all or simply another nice to have 'party trick' feature
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QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 04:33 PM)
You have a point there. I seriously wouldn't bother with handwriting recognition now. Swiftkey always does it for me.

However, the ability to draw / sketch over photos is quite useful in certain business line, and even leisure projects involving groups. Sony's tech that allows pencil or large-tipped ordinary pen usage makes convenient and negates the need to keep a stylus always with you.
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Well, the issue is not really handwriting recognition, that still sucks (badly or not so badly) whatever the platform. The issue is actually to do with the sales proposition that you can use anything as a stylus, and the message that it's supposed to improve your productivity.

See, I believe I was the first to raise the point of proper stylus use where you use the screen like a piece of paper. I remarked that every video FROM SONY ever shown that shows the handwriting, you can observe that the model always holds the hand ABOVE the screen. You can verify this by checking every video of the XZU out there.

And from all the current reviews and unboxing etc, they all test the stylus function as an afterthough like "gee, I can use a normal pencil to write!!!" and then they too write holding the hand ABOVE the screen. Whether it's a directive from Sony or because they never used a stylus with their other phones I don't know, but I'm only saying that the stylus functionality is badly borked and it should not be advertised as a prominent feature, since this does not really distinguish it from other capacitive screens.

Note series advertised the stylus functionality as a major feature and as gogo2 said, it works out of the box properly.

My 2 sen is that no firmware update will solve the palm rejection on the XZU.
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I can assure you that you will have no problems using the mega for reading n browsing. The difference in quality is negligible vs the Xzu.
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I'm actually planning to replace both my iPhone 5 and iPad Mini with the XZU. Mainly will use it as my daily driver and for PDF / Ebook reading. Seems that the XZU fits my needs just right due to screen quality, resolution, thinness, weight and good screen size for reading documents (6.44").

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I'm actually planning to replace both my iPhone 5 and iPad Mini with the XZU. Mainly will use it as my daily driver and for PDF / Ebook reading. Seems that the XZU fits my needs just right due to screen quality, resolution, thinness, weight and good screen size for reading documents (6.44").
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Well, because it's beyond me why Sony won't release the LTE version first or really even bother making a 3G version unless 'cost' is an issue for them. biggrin.gif

What joytest mention about palm-rejection does hold its truth. It could may well be physically not possible on the XZU screen, but there should be a way for the screen to detect 'large-surface' touches like palms. Same thing for how palm-rejection works for certain touchpads on laptops probably.
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Hopefully that's possible to deliver via fw updates. Otherwise...a lot of people will be fooled and enraged by the "anything-as-your-stylus" feature. Tbh though, most people I know don't use it. Very rarely do I find someone with a Note or other similar phablet, or even tablet for that matter, that utilise a stylus.

Still, for Sony to use it as a selling point, they should at least make sure it delivers. On a similar note, I tried using a pen borrowed from the the Sony Centre and the phone did not recognise it sweat.gif

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Well, the issue is not really handwriting recognition, that still sucks (badly or not so badly) whatever the platform. The issue is actually to do with the sales proposition that you can use anything as a stylus, and the message that it's supposed to improve your productivity.

See, I believe I was the first to raise the point of proper stylus use where you use the screen like a piece of paper. I remarked that every video FROM SONY ever shown that shows the handwriting, you can observe that the model always holds the hand ABOVE the screen. You can verify this by checking every video of the XZU out there.

And from all the current reviews and unboxing etc, they all test the stylus function as an afterthough like "gee, I can use a normal pencil to write!!!" and then they too write holding the hand ABOVE the screen. Whether it's a directive from Sony or because they never used a stylus with their other phones I don't know, but I'm only saying that the stylus functionality is badly borked and it should not be advertised as a prominent feature, since this does not really distinguish it from other capacitive screens.

Note series advertised the stylus functionality as a major feature and as gogo2 said, it works out of the box properly.

My 2 sen is that no firmware update will solve the palm rejection on the XZU.
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Really? No hope at all? That really sucks then sweat.gif It's like you have a pretty brilliant feature, you could use it every once in a while to show off, but back in the confines and privacy of your room, your cry yourself to sleep because it was all just a party trick sweat.gif

Ah well. Was never personally, a selling point to me anyways :/
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Actually I know myself won't ever use that stylus thing, but ... Sony still need to sort it out as better as it can since this is one of the main attraction part being advertise.

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Well, the issue is not really handwriting recognition, that still sucks (badly or not so badly) whatever the platform. The issue is actually to do with the sales proposition that you can use anything as a stylus, and the message that it's supposed to improve your productivity.

See, I believe I was the first to raise the point of proper stylus use where you use the screen like a piece of paper. I remarked that every video FROM SONY ever shown that shows the handwriting, you can observe that the model always holds the hand ABOVE the screen. You can verify this by checking every video of the XZU out there.

And from all the current reviews and unboxing etc, they all test the stylus function as an afterthough like "gee, I can use a normal pencil to write!!!" and then they too write holding the hand ABOVE the screen. Whether it's a directive from Sony or because they never used a stylus with their other phones I don't know, but I'm only saying that the stylus functionality is badly borked and it should not be advertised as a prominent feature, since this does not really distinguish it from other capacitive screens.

Note series advertised the stylus functionality as a major feature and as gogo2 said, it works out of the box properly.

My 2 sen is that no firmware update will solve the palm rejection on the XZU.
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Moral of the story, don't read too much into a marketing proposition.

My car has a feature where I can write on a console pad with my fingers to either search a destination on the GPS or a contact on the directory. It works as advertised but is also so clunky that I'd preferred to just search a contact on the phone itself then hold the conservation over Bluetooth.

Similarly here, the stock keyboard and swiftkey seriously negates the need for a handwriting app, maybe except for scribbles which that by itself is already rare.

Bottom line, these buggers will cram half baked ideas as their own and make it a marketing proposition, take it as a nice to have but stick to the proven methods

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I see what is going to be on Garage Sales soon  brows.gif
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He already sold his One. If not you can buy that  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 05:43 PM)
Actually I know myself won't ever use that stylus thing, but ... Sony still need to sort it out as better as it can since this is one of the main attraction part being advertise.
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Yes, to be frank, Sony video commercial is very attractive and this pencil input thingy actually made me consider the XZU in the first place. Else, it would just be 'just another phablet' to me besides having SD800, Triluminos and super-slim size.

QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 05:44 PM)
Moral of the story, don't read too much into a marketing proposition.

My car has a feature where I can write on a console pad with my fingers to either search a destination on the GPS or a contact on the directory.  It works as advertised but is also so clunky that I'd preferred to just search a contact on the phone itself then hold the conservation over Bluetooth.

Similarly here, the stock keyboard and swiftkey seriously negates the need for a handwriting app, maybe except for scribbles which that by itself is already rare.

Bottom line, these buggers will cram half baked ideas as their own and make it a marketing proposition, take it as a nice to have but stick to the proven methods
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Yes, the world loves good marketing, that's why Apple and Samsung can do so well. But then again, we as consumers have to be smart not to fall for their trickery.

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That was my request and thanks for fulfilling it.

I must say you have more dark hair at 58 than me at 42. What's your secret? Hehe

Ok, I must say, it doesn't look socially acceptable to hold that mammoth to your ear. Dunno if its just me, but it looks kinda outrageous. Looks like have to get the SBH 52 headset along with it
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looks big but not as absurb as holding 7inch galaxy tab and 8inch note at ears. i think it's great to have the headset.
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Looking good there uncle Benny!

I'm still thinking which colour looks best when held to the ear. Black may be understated but white looks quite stylish especially the silver sides. Still can't decide!
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Looking good there uncle Benny!

I'm still thinking which colour looks best when held to the ear. Black may be understated but white looks quite stylish especially the silver sides. Still can't decide!
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Go with black. It's supposed to be a mini triluminous Bravia TV in the first place. Or get purple to accentuate the attention even further.

I think black would be best so as not to further magnify its already mammoth size compared with the other contrasting loud colors.

Sony, just launch the LTE version with the SBH 52 headset and take my money
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eh, looks quite ok. That's like the size when I see a small sized girl holding galaxy S3 to her ear.
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That was my request and thanks for fulfilling it.

I must say you have more dark hair at 58 than me at 42.  What's your secret? Hehe

Ok, I must say, it doesn't look socially acceptable to hold that mammoth to your ear.  Dunno if its just me, but it looks kinda outrageous.  Looks like have to get the SBH 52 headset along with it
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I googled for SBH 52 and found this



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i think this is very subjective...
once we bought this phone, we hv pass the acceptable level

but most of my frenz do this doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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when i didnt bring my bt... i hv hide2 to make call brows.gif

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uncle benny, our app drawer is not like the HK version one ><
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 29 2013, 06:48 PM)
looks big but not as absurb as holding 7inch galaxy tab and 8inch note at ears. i think it's great to have the headset.
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true, not as ridiculous as I think it would be biggrin.gif

QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 06:49 PM)
Looking good there uncle Benny!

I'm still thinking which colour looks best when held to the ear. Black may be understated but white looks quite stylish especially the silver sides. Still can't decide!
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My turn :3
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QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 06:52 PM)
Go with black.  It's supposed to be a mini triluminous Bravia TV in the first place.  Or get purple to accentuate the attention even further. 

I think black would be best so as not to further magnify its already mammoth size compared with the other contrasting loud colors.

Sony, just launch the LTE version with the SBH 52 headset and take my money
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true, not as ridiculous as I think it would be  biggrin.gif
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LOL. Perhaps I shall close my eyes and pick either black or white!

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Manage to found 1 supplier doing this.
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Can you help check with your supplier if the case has sleep/wake function just like the original Sony Z Ultra case?

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My turn :3
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eh, looks quite ok. That's like the size when I see a small sized girl holding galaxy S3 to her ear.
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Means Benny is similar size as small size girl? smile.gif size is relative.. depends on how big is Benny also, in relation to the phone.

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shockk. No sleep/wake feature bro..
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shockk. No sleep/wake feature bro..
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look big! But still in Ok level. You look younger than 59, great and health. smile.gif

QUOTE(shockk @ Jul 29 2013, 06:49 PM)
Looking good there uncle Benny!

I'm still thinking which colour looks best when held to the ear. Black may be understated but white looks quite stylish especially the silver sides. Still can't decide!
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I am only saying the homescreen not app drawer. How does the HK version look like - please post link ?
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You simply YouTube Xperia Z Ultra can immediate get to know the look completely different especially the app drawer.

What it bundle now is Xperia Z/ZL home launcher, not the new design one as show during press.

The new home launcher and app drawer shall look something like below:

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I used mine in the rain, during Liverpool match, and just wiped dry on my damp shirt. Looks fresh from the box after drying. Think I'm quite happy to use it without a cover.
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I used mine in the rain, during Liverpool match, and just wiped dry on my damp shirt. Looks fresh from the box after drying. Think I'm quite happy to use it without a cover.
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Means Benny is similar size as small size girl? smile.gif size is relative.. depends on how big is Benny also, in relation to the phone.
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S3 is only 136.6cm x 70.6cm. When I said it's like a small sized girl holding a galaxy s3, how can i mean Benny is similar to a small sized girl when Z ultra is clearly 179.4cm x 92.2cm, way bigger than s3? I was praising the phone when I said "looks quite ok", not bashing it. smile.gif
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S3 is only 136.6cm x 70.6cm. When I said it's like a small sized girl holding a galaxy s3, how can i mean Benny is similar to a small sized girl when Z ultra is clearly 179.4cm x 92.2cm, way bigger than s3? I was praising the phone when I said "looks quite ok", not bashing it.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 10:00 PM)
You simply YouTube Xperia Z Ultra can immediate get to know the look completely different especially the app drawer.

What it bundle now is Xperia Z/ZL home launcher, not the new design one as show during press.

The new home launcher and app drawer shall look something like below:

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woooooooo......
AWESOME.... eh... wait... where's your unboxing vids? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Jul 29 2013, 10:16 PM)
S3 is only 136.6cm x 70.6cm. When I said it's like a small sized girl holding a galaxy s3, how can i mean Benny is similar to a small sized girl when Z ultra is clearly 179.4cm x 92.2cm, way bigger than s3? I was praising the phone when I said "looks quite ok", not bashing it.  smile.gif
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Just pulling yr leg lah :-P xzu is really the modern version of 'tai kor tai'! I think only those 6 footers and above wont look so big in their hands.

I think I wil consider to use it as a tablet replacement and 2nd phone.. or see if got any free call forwarding plans I'll use the HTC one as a phone and the xzu as backup.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 10:00 PM)
You simply YouTube Xperia Z Ultra can immediate get to know the look completely different especially the app drawer.

What it bundle now is Xperia Z/ZL home launcher, not the new design one as show during press.

The new home launcher and app drawer shall look something like below:

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weird the unit I played in Sony HQ and in HK is exactly same with ur screenshot

off topic : Samsung release Note II with S600 proc
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_600powe...e-news-6474.php

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post Jul 29 2013, 11:23 PM

someone need a sarcasm meter?
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 11:23 PM)
I didn't get yet, that is screenshot from my current Z running honami / Z Ultra in press ROM.
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cry.gif den i need wait patiently liao sad.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Jul 29 2013, 11:17 PM)
weird the unit I played in Sony HQ and in HK is exactly same with ur screenshot

off topic : Samsung release Note II with S600 proc
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_600powe...e-news-6474.php
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But the one post by benny888 and also my friend one, he already buy, still running old design interface.
wiNd
post Jul 29 2013, 11:33 PM

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Good video review (sorry in mandarin)
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 11:31 PM)
But the one post by benny888 and also my friend one, he already buy, still running old design interface.
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yea I saw that. Perhaps Sony will roll new firmware on this Thursday, finger cross doh.gif
mudkipryan94
post Jul 29 2013, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Jul 29 2013, 11:33 PM)
yea I saw that. Perhaps Sony will roll new firmware on this Thursday, finger cross doh.gif
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wanna quad facepalm? brows.gif
why? wanna jump to XZU? HTC 1 feels bad? brows.gif
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(jloi @ Jul 29 2013, 11:33 PM)
yea I saw that. Perhaps Sony will roll new firmware on this Thursday, finger cross doh.gif
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Hope Sony roll out ASAP.
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Jul 29 2013, 11:23 PM)
cry.gif den i need wait patiently liao sad.gif
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I don't think I will do unboxing video la, will only do a short review.
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post Jul 29 2013, 11:49 PM

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What's the best clear screen protector that has minimal or no finger print magnet?

Changed from matt to clear sp recently that came with otterbox, it's sharper and clearer now but full of finger prints.
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