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 Sony XPERIA™ Z Ultra, Official Thread V2, The only Snapdragon™ 800 ~ 6.44" Beast!!

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post Jul 27 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Noobi3 @ Jul 27 2013, 05:40 PM)
Cons :

1 - Volume + power button not suitable if u r using left hand . Where do they expect us to hold the phone , top ?

2 - Call volume very soft even set to max , barely can hear what the other party is talking in a noisy environment .
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Thanks for informing on this.

If this is true, it's certainly a deal-breaker for me. Will need to test the demo out for sure before purchase. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 28 2013, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 27 2013, 10:53 PM)
The writing using stylus so far I can only use pencil. It doesn't work with my old ballpen n plastic stylus
You can only use Sony keyboard n must select write mode n write on the pad. I see no point using it as it is too troublesome to invoke it.  You need to write slowly to have accurate capture. I rate it hopeless to me.
At first I thought can just write straightaway on any note app without all these constraints
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This was my biggest worry of all, and unfortunately it is true after what you said. Many reviews and hands-on so far did not even mention this issue. I guess this is another gimmick for the ZU and everybody would have thought they would be at least equal to Note 2's stylus performance, or better since this one allows pencil usage. Now it all boils down to the thinness of the phone, the display quality, screen size, waterproofing and blazing performance as the things going for it, but not sure if these are enough. Hmmm. Thanks for highlighting this Benny!
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post Jul 28 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 01:52 PM)
This is the verge site.  I can easily read without zooming

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Very nice. Certainly beats the Note 2 for reading (without zooming) as the PPI is much higher.

Want to ask, does this Z Ultra have the 'double-tap-to-wake' function just like Tablet Z? I think I saw a video on the Z Ultra doing it, but not sure if I'm mistaken.

Hope you can clarify, Thanks in advance Benny!
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post Jul 28 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 28 2013, 09:51 PM)
May I know how you toggle to the smaller keyboard ?
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Just played with the XZU demo unit at Sony IPC just now. The screen is awesome, way way better than XZ. I would say personally even better than my previous HTC One when it comes to brightness and colours, black levels are almost equivalent. biggrin.gif

To activate the smaller keyboard, activate the keyboard first, then hold the 'En' button, and there should be an option there for 'Mini Keyboard'. There you go! Tried the mini keyboard and yes it's just nice for one handed use.
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post Jul 28 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 28 2013, 10:49 PM)
I thought the launcher suppose look like below where all is like that during announcing and also any of it current commercial look.

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That's the same launcher I saw on the demo XZU at Sony IPC just now too.

QUOTE(EricCYL @ Jul 28 2013, 10:53 PM)
Thought of getting the XPZ Ultra today. Went to KLCC and Mid Valley Sony Retail store and they don't sell the phone until 1st of August. What a bummer....
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Even if you get it today, you probably won't get the free 3500mah Sony Powerbank.

Better wait for 1st August official release for proper promotions.

I'm still thinking whether to go for this 3G model on 1st August or wait til the LTE version is out. If the LTE version is going to be out on end September, I'd rather get this now and later on change to something else (Note III, One Max, etc.).

Cheers~
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post Jul 28 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(kaisergan @ Jul 28 2013, 11:19 PM)
Although LTE might be futureproof, but why the needs of very very high speed internet? for hotspot sharing and download? or the higher the better, nothing to lose.
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Bro, if you have used LTE before, it's a whole different world.

Latency is very low, almost instant response nearly as good as my Unifi fibre-optic. I'm enjoying LTE now on my iPhone 5, and previously HTC One and Z10.

Once the LTE XZU is out, it 'may' probably be at a higher RRP, so it's good to get the 3G version to save some money, or for people like me who prefer LTE, I'd get it first 'just in case' Sony delays the LTE version for Malaysia for whatever reason. Remember what happened to some Sony products like PS Vita that got delayed for many many months, better get and use the 3G XZU to the fullest first. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 28 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(bosouman @ Jul 28 2013, 11:28 PM)
well for me. i asked the sony centre worker. he said.
free gift. screen protector, casing.
so its from Sony Center. meaning original...screen protector and casing, drool.gif
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Is it the IPC branch? Or which branch you mean? When I checked with the salesgirl there she said no accessories arrived yet for the XZU. If there is indeed Screen Protector and Case, awesome! Only after 1st August sale is it? And did they mention that they will still give the Sony Powerbank? Cheers

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post Jul 29 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 03:06 PM)
Ya, I believe we shall seen more improvement in next firmware updates, Sony need to sort it out. smile.gif

In my opinion, it still better out something similar with press, not that far big different, the new home launcher not only design different but different way of functionality as well.
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I agree with you somewhat.

Despite what uncle benny said that the pencil-input is limited to a small area in XZU now (if I read that right), perhaps in future they will make it able to input on entire screen, with palm rejection, etc.
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post Jul 29 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:20 PM)
They don't even have LTE in Z ultra eventhough its flagship. Hahaha... that's how rush they want it to be in the market.

I would imagine if Note3 is out with S800 proc+3GB RAM, Z Ultra might lost the market. So they really need to capture it right now.  sweat.gif
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Perhaps Sony wants to 'test waters' first with this 3G version of the XZU. I would imagine the LTE XZU to be priced at around RM 2499 which is quite expensive considering it has only 16GB on-board. If Sony did want to price the LTE version at such high prices, I would not expect they would bring it in soon, or ever if the 3G versions' sales are not doing well.
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post Jul 29 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 29 2013, 03:29 PM)
or maybe the repeat of S4 3G will happened. S4 3G start with RM2299. Now SME 3G set sometimes drop to RM16xx after S4 LTE arrived.  cry.gif
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Yes, this is the alternative plausible scenario.

But I really think that Sony will maintain the XZU 3G at RM2299 and XZU LTE at RM2499 because nothing in the market now comes close to the SD800 and 1080p 6.44" Screen, but most of all the 'Triluminous' tech is probably not cheap to manufacture either. Just take a look at the Sony Bravia TV range - those TV with 'Triluminous' tech are way more expensive than those without.

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post Jul 29 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Fasap @ Jul 29 2013, 03:35 PM)
Good point. I doubt they are just testing waters here considering how sony is releasing almost all the handsets they announce recently to malaysian shores (Z, ZL, Tab Z LTE, Tab Z wifi, ZR), high hope is still there for an LTE XZU imo.

But with a price tag of 2499, only tech / gadget enthusiasts, sony loyalists, and the rich lot are going to fork out cash for it early in its release. Or maybe people will just settle for the 3G version if they are planning to buy the XZU as a second device.
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Correct, the price point of RM2499 is indeed too high to be competitive.

But then again, from what I read certain countries (like India, UK, Aus) are pricing the XZU at around RM2.5k-2.8k, but not sure if this refers to the 3G or LTE version.

All in all, a discount on the XZU is most welcome for most of us. After all, it isn't a phablet that most people would buy considering it's gigantic dimensions (minus the thinness).
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post Jul 29 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(marquis @ Jul 29 2013, 03:43 PM)
Please don't say that sad.gif

I do hope the LTE version would come around.

Regarding the palm-rejection tech...I sort of have a wild theory. As joytest has mentioned...no one did a test for it. Could it be because the firmware isn't mature enough yet? So Sony is actually rushing to release the phone first, then fix it with the firmware later on? Which means they give out phones for reviews but tell the reviewers not to review that particular aspect?

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Just a wild thought really
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Well, because it's beyond me why Sony won't release the LTE version first or really even bother making a 3G version unless 'cost' is an issue for them. biggrin.gif

What joytest mention about palm-rejection does hold its truth. It could may well be physically not possible on the XZU screen, but there should be a way for the screen to detect 'large-surface' touches like palms. Same thing for how palm-rejection works for certain touchpads on laptops probably.

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post Jul 29 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 04:16 PM)
I'm not sure why the huge fuss over the handwriting recognition input when the stock android keyboard or swiftkey is so accurate and efficient in text prediction, I wonder if that feature is really needed at all or simply another nice to have 'party trick' feature
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You have a point there. I seriously wouldn't bother with handwriting recognition now. Swiftkey always does it for me.

However, the ability to draw / sketch over photos is quite useful in certain business line, and even leisure projects involving groups. Sony's tech that allows pencil or large-tipped ordinary pen usage makes convenient and negates the need to keep a stylus always with you.
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post Jul 29 2013, 05:04 PM

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I'm actually planning to replace both my iPhone 5 and iPad Mini with the XZU. Mainly will use it as my daily driver and for PDF / Ebook reading. Seems that the XZU fits my needs just right due to screen quality, resolution, thinness, weight and good screen size for reading documents (6.44").

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post Jul 29 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jul 29 2013, 05:05 PM)
I see what is going to be on Garage Sales soon  brows.gif
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lol. only time will tell. HTC One and Note II failed to do that.

QUOTE(kingsora @ Jul 29 2013, 05:24 PM)
He already sold his One. If not you can buy that  tongue.gif
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I find the One quite thick, and if I'm using it heavily (like 3-4 hour SOT), it can't get me through a full day.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Jul 29 2013, 05:43 PM)
Actually I know myself won't ever use that stylus thing, but ... Sony still need to sort it out as better as it can since this is one of the main attraction part being advertise.
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Yes, to be frank, Sony video commercial is very attractive and this pencil input thingy actually made me consider the XZU in the first place. Else, it would just be 'just another phablet' to me besides having SD800, Triluminos and super-slim size.

QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 05:44 PM)
Moral of the story, don't read too much into a marketing proposition.

My car has a feature where I can write on a console pad with my fingers to either search a destination on the GPS or a contact on the directory.  It works as advertised but is also so clunky that I'd preferred to just search a contact on the phone itself then hold the conservation over Bluetooth.

Similarly here, the stock keyboard and swiftkey seriously negates the need for a handwriting app, maybe except for scribbles which that by itself is already rare.

Bottom line, these buggers will cram half baked ideas as their own and make it a marketing proposition, take it as a nice to have but stick to the proven methods
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Yes, the world loves good marketing, that's why Apple and Samsung can do so well. But then again, we as consumers have to be smart not to fall for their trickery.

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post Jul 29 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 29 2013, 06:38 PM)
Someone ask me to post how this phone look holding it to the ears. This is a picture of me

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Looking good there uncle Benny!

I'm still thinking which colour looks best when held to the ear. Black may be understated but white looks quite stylish especially the silver sides. Still can't decide!
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post Jul 29 2013, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(kuntakinte @ Jul 29 2013, 06:52 PM)
Go with black.  It's supposed to be a mini triluminous Bravia TV in the first place.  Or get purple to accentuate the attention even further. 

I think black would be best so as not to further magnify its already mammoth size compared with the other contrasting loud colors.

Sony, just launch the LTE version with the SBH 52 headset and take my money
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jul 29 2013, 09:09 PM)
true, not as ridiculous as I think it would be  biggrin.gif
buy white la shock, seems like you are more attracted to white device lol  tongue.gif
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LOL. Perhaps I shall close my eyes and pick either black or white!

QUOTE(dannygeni @ Jul 29 2013, 09:11 PM)
Manage to found 1 supplier doing this.
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Can you help check with your supplier if the case has sleep/wake function just like the original Sony Z Ultra case?

QUOTE(Xsence @ Jul 29 2013, 09:14 PM)
My turn :3
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using buzz Launcher biggrin.gif
btwi check my firmware already same as UNcle Benny one biggrin.gif
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Nice launcher. Thanks for sharing. Might give it a try.
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post Jul 29 2013, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(dannygeni @ Jul 29 2013, 09:38 PM)
shockk. No sleep/wake feature bro..
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Thanks bro. But the case does look nice. Please update us on availability colours and pricing perhaps, but most importantly screen protectors (front and back) for the XZU! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 30 2013, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(h11g @ Jul 30 2013, 01:02 AM)
To those who are using this phone, can you download talkbox and see whether the app aren't optimize for this display? Looks really weird on mine
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I did have problems with GSC Cinema Booking App (the seat-booking diagram becomes very small) and even Maybank2u.Com Website (the button overlay don't correspond well to touches resulting in many mis-clicks, etc.) when using my HTC One. Seems that certain apps and websites are still not optimized for 1080p touch-screen on phones. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(marquis @ Jul 30 2013, 10:00 AM)
Any Sony staff here? Wanna ask about the staff price - Can more than one device be bought at the same time using the 20% discount?

Also, just to add, I've asked regarding the SBH-52 at a Sony store and the lady said that it would be released together with the Ultra...sometime next month. Still no exact date.

Though going by what uncle Benny said, most likely late August?

Oh and to the guy saying only 6-footers would look ok holding the phone. I'm a 6'1" and fairly large in frame with larger than average hands...the phone still looks kinda big laugh.gif

It's more manageable but doesn't change the fact that it's still gargantuan. Reaching for the app drawer can be somewhat of a problem. I'm speaking in terms of one-handed usage of course.
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At first I was really tempted to get the SBH52, but after 2nd thought, probably having it is more nuisance than convenience since you actually have to use your hand to hold it up to your ear, unless you connect a stereo headset to the SBH52 for it to act as a handsfree. I'll probably try to use XZU itself to listen to calls first and see how it goes.

However, what I'm more interested to know is when the magnetic charging dock DK30 will be out. I reckon pricing would be in the range of RM200. This is a 'MUST HAVE' accessory for all XZU users, IMHO - because opening and closing those flaps for the charger will wear them out fast.

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