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post Apr 7 2012, 04:05 PM, updated 14y ago

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Proton Prevé Owners and Fans Club V3

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http://star-motoring.com/Previews/2012/Pre...e-variants.aspx

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V1: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2227213&hl=Proton+P3 by ericmaxman  :lol:
V2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2271457 by dares  :clap:


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This post has been edited by FenomX: Apr 17 2012, 10:44 PM
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:06 PM

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Dares msti pakat ngn TS sbb dpt 1st. laugh.gif tongue.gif

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post Apr 7 2012, 04:12 PM

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wah..proton preve thread also can become v3 already haha
jiayou jiayou to all future owners xD
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:14 PM

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dares go book the car also laa...
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:14 PM

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FenomX, just quote my first post in the previous thread and remove the quote tags la.

Unless you wanna do fancy fancy shet tongue.gif

Added on April 7, 2012, 4:16 pm
QUOTE(eistern @ Apr 7 2012, 04:14 PM)
dares go book the car also laa...
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You gimme money ah? I just got my FLX 3 months ago la

I diam diam sit here and watch you guys with envy dah unsure.gif

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post Apr 7 2012, 04:18 PM

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dares, can you give me your first page code so i can post it here, of course will credit you.

must fancy to show our professionalism ;D

PM me your code later wink.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:22 PM

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dares, can you give me your first page code so i can post it here, of course will credit you.

must fancy to show our professionalism ;D

PM me your code later wink.gif
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Going out now, spam again later hmm.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:22 PM

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post Apr 7 2012, 04:24 PM

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im sure u guys have seen it... but just sharing
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Congratulations with the new Thread of Prevé , Hope more and more versions to come tongue.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:48 PM

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Alright, done the first post editing, thanks to daren big brother rclxms.gif

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im sure u guys have seen it... but just sharing
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good, sharing is caring rclxms.gif
keep on moving rclxm9.gif

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First!!
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congratz congratz rclxms.gif

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post Apr 7 2012, 04:55 PM

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finally have official thread. smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 04:56 PM

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post Apr 7 2012, 05:00 PM

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bila mau buat TT. we go genting with new proton car. fulamakkkk
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif nice one nice one rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

it seems like everything is now official. But we do need to know the button hidden inside the drawer brows.gif
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16th April launching... My showroom will be having 2 units for test drive brows.gif

shit, i am exposing too much... *ciao*
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Apr 7 2012, 05:08 PM)
16th April launching... My showroom will be having 2 units for test drive brows.gif

shit, i am exposing too much... *ciao*
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16th April launching... My showroom will be having 2 units for test drive brows.gif

shit, i am exposing too much... *ciao*
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how about ready stocks?
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we redi saw in d official website bro. dis one tak pakai edi tongue.gif
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but there's still alot more you don't know.. brows.gif

the link for the website is down lio.... brows.gif
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but there's still alot more you don't know..  brows.gif

the link for the website is down lio....  brows.gif
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pls spill it here...hehehe... or atleast give hints if its gonna be worth it to get excited.. hmm.gif
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TS, post link to V1 and V2 like Inspira thread please icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 7 2012, 05:14 PM)
TS, post link to V1 and V2 like Inspira thread please  icon_rolleyes.gif
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already in the first post, down part rclxms.gif

EDIT: added V1 | V2 fast link on top biggrin.gif

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post Apr 7 2012, 05:16 PM

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Highest spec RM70k++. Sigh. sad.gif
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how about ready stocks?
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Ready stocks??? Don't know yet wor.... brows.gif 73% of the booking are for the Premium CVT spec, sure rebut rebut wooo

Confirmed price list for Peninsular Malaysia.
Executive MT Metallic RM65,500 OTR
Executive MT Solid RM65,050 OTR
Executive CVT Metallic RM68,500 OTR
Executive CVT Solid RM68,050 OTR
Premium CVT Metallic RM75,500 OTR
Premium CVT Solid RM75,050 OTR

Service Interval every 10,000kms

Too much info liao....

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Ready stocks??? Don't know yet wor....  brows.gif 73% of the booking are for the Premium CVT spec, sure rebut rebut wooo

Confirmed price list for Peninsular Malaysia.
Executive MT Metallic RM65,500 OTR
Executive MT Solid RM65,050 OTR
Executive CVT Metallic RM68,500 OTR
Executive CVT Solid RM68,050 OTR
Premium CVT Metallic RM75,500 OTR
Premium CVT Solid RM75,050 OTR

Interest rate 3.65 ~ 4.00%

Service Interval every 10,000kms

What you guys want to know some more?  laugh.gif
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i got lower interest, [hidden to protect business from other S.A]
really 1 month for waiting list?

Edit: edited the interest, don't want spoil your business. Sorry!

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QUOTE(victor87 @ Apr 7 2012, 05:19 PM)
Ready stocks??? Don't know yet wor....  brows.gif 73% of the booking are for the Premium CVT spec, sure rebut rebut wooo

Confirmed price list for Peninsular Malaysia.
Executive MT Metallic RM65,500 OTR
Executive MT Solid RM65,050 OTR
Executive CVT Metallic RM68,500 OTR
Executive CVT Solid RM68,050 OTR
Premium CVT Metallic RM75,500 OTR
Premium CVT Solid RM75,050 OTR

Interest rate 3.65 ~ 4.00%

Service Interval every 10,000kms

What you guys want to know some more?  laugh.gif
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wtf..interest damn high. and d price...hmmmmm sweat.gif looks like tentative price only.
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1 month waiting list? i don't know about your dealer..

"from my observation", MT Executive might face stock shortage, while CVT Executive will be largely produced, and CVT Premium will be place between the other 2 variants...

you guys should have do the bookings with me hmm.gif
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Apr 7 2012, 05:24 PM)
1 month waiting list? i don't know about your dealer..

"from my observation", MT Executive might face stock shortage, while CVT Executive will be largely produced, and CVT Premium will be place between the other 2 variants...

you guys should have do the bookings with me hmm.gif
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you no say early doh.gif
then we all bulk order huge discount. You happy we all happy.

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wtf..interest damn high. and d price...hmmmmm sweat.gif  looks like tentative price only.
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the interest rate is vary, and it's from the M.D to us dealer.

price is confirmed, though
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post Apr 7 2012, 05:27 PM

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No DP of course interest will be higher la. Not meh?

Eh fenomX, mind sharing where you got yours from? I've never actually bought a car via loan before sweat.gif
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No DP of course interest will be higher la. Not meh?

Eh fenomX, mind sharing where you got yours from? I've never actually bought a car via loan before sweat.gif
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Subang ss15, opposite the giant / carrefour.

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So the price is set in stone at 75.5k. Dang, thought it may be cheaper...
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gosh..i plan to put 20% DP but if stil gonna kene charge interest close to 4%..mmg sweat.gif expensive... and d price not confirmed as 72990?
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Wow, if go for 60 months with minimum DP for best spec (RM75k), it is around RM 1330.31 a month.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/tools/loan_payment.asp
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oh depends on customer credits evaluation.

I no debts thats why maybe cheaper LOL + 10% deposit.
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Need to earn at least RM4k per month.

For those that have house and family, I think need aroun RM6k per month.
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deleted the link.. cannot expose so much. brows.gif

but the rate is just roughly estimation only. most of the time i get below 3.0% for all the current proton models.

don't worry.....
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deleted the link.. cannot expose so much. brows.gif

but the rate is just roughly estimation only. most of the time i get below 3.0% for all the current proton models.

don't worry.....
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I've seen that paper when I place my booking before.
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that means it's true lorrrrrr...

it's normal to have salesman under-claim the interest rate when the time u book the car.. if i tell u the int rate would be up to 4%, will u still buy ?
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oh depends on customer credits evaluation.

I no debts thats why maybe cheaper LOL + 10% deposit.
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I saw this paper also dis morning..my SA show it to me..then checked with fren at hire purchase, loan interest could get 2.8 ~ 3.0..but dun believe me yet..wait till actual car release whistling.gif
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Anybody noticed this spec sheet and the one on the preve website is different? On the preve site it says even the exec spec cvt will get the esc, push start button and all the other bells and whistles while here it says it doesn't. rclxub.gif
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Anybody noticed this spec sheet and the one on the preve website is different? On the preve site it says even the exec spec cvt will get the esc, push start button and all the other bells and whistles while here it says it doesn't. rclxub.gif
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This sheet already available when I place my booking on 14th March. I think the one on Proton Edar website is the latest one.
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but we're not informed, yet??
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but when u see at d key features, it states side airbags only for premium variant...
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but when u see at d key features, it states side airbags only for premium variant...
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well im beginnin to doubt the features. but im quite positive that the price will be cheaper. that mayb proton's last card.
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but we're not informed, yet??
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The pdf file stated that the effective date is 9th April
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Can anyone who willing introduce good sales agent to me?
Looking for a nice SA who able to offer good service & follow up.
I want to order this beauty.
I'm stay at Puchong

Thanks a lot

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Dear All
Can anyone who willing introduce good sales agent to me?
Looking for a nice SA who able to offer good service & follow up.
I want to order this beauty.
I'm stay at Puchong

Thanks a lot

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Gaji mesti sekurang kurangnya RM5k...
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SA wont be getting the updated one so soon perhaps on 9th april.

see 1st page, someone manage to get the official one from proton official website.

price confirmed at RM72,990 for CFE CVT.
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The interest rate given to me is 2.8%
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The pdf file stated that the effective date is 9th April
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QUOTE(<Ultraman> @ Apr 7 2012, 05:32 PM)
Wow, if go for 60 months with minimum DP for best spec (RM75k), it is around RM 1330.31 a month.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/tools/loan_payment.asp
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if your net salary is 4K, 1/3 is 1333.34, so 5yrs loan should be no problem.
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The interest rate given to me is 2.8%
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 05:57 PM)
SA wont be getting the updated one so soon perhaps on 9th april.

see 1st page, someone manage to get the official one from proton official website.

price confirmed at RM72,990 for CFE CVT.
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OTR?
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 06:57 PM)
SA wont be getting the updated one so soon perhaps on 9th april.

see 1st page, someone manage to get the official one from proton official website.

price confirmed at RM72,990 for CFE CVT.
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My SA really surprised when i forward him the leak price sheets RM 72990 this morning. He was so curiou shakehead.gif s about the pricing of RM 72990 instead of RM 75500.
He had forwarded to his boss for verification. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I told him, in this he should inform the banker to adjust my loan amount to lower RM2500.

Since my loan had approved by the bank earlier with RM67900, could be it change from time to time?
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QUOTE(FenomX @ Apr 7 2012, 06:02 PM)
me too  nod.gif
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QUOTE(Huskarl @ Apr 7 2012, 06:04 PM)
nice, which bank??
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:00 PM)
The interest rate given to me is 2.8%
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QUOTE(FenomX @ Apr 7 2012, 07:02 PM)
me too  nod.gif
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Same to me 2.8 from PB, some others bank offer me even higher like 2.83, but i approach the PB for lower to 2.8
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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Apr 7 2012, 06:04 PM)
My SA really surprised when i forward him the leak price sheets RM 72990 this morning. He was so curiou shakehead.gif s about the pricing of RM 72990 instead of RM 75500.
He had forwarded to his boss for verification.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

I told him, in this he should inform the banker to adjust my loan amount to lower RM2500.

Since my loan had approved by the bank earlier with RM67900, could be it change from time to time?
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of coz can.

your SA based on tentative OTR price.
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:08 PM

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i think bank muamalat offer 2.7 for IR
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QUOTE(viperz982 @ Apr 7 2012, 06:06 PM)
got mine 2.79%
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aiyah why cheaper than me 0.3%, why my banker rounded up vmad.gif
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i'm waiting to test drive this car with my gf...1 of few cars we gonna test drive...wanna trade in her myvi....currently eyeing for inspira,forte,preve (for family car category)...if can,gonna trade in my waja too for other car...
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Apr 7 2012, 06:07 PM)
Same to me 2.8 from PB, some others bank offer me even higher like 2.83, but i approach the PB for lower to 2.8
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wow good rate, as long as got good credit history, bank will offer better rate. some SA says more than 3% then you better look for other SA.
some may offer 2.7+/-
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:11 PM

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aiyah why cheaper than me 0.3%, why my banker rounded up  vmad.gif
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2.8 nice figure for chinese... Yee Fatt...
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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 7 2012, 06:10 PM)
i'm waiting to test drive this car with my gf...1 of few cars we gonna test drive...wanna trade in her myvi....currently eyeing for inspira,forte,preve (for family car category)...if can,gonna trade in my waja too for other car...
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inspira and forte is 15-18k different...quite a big top up eh? shocking.gif
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2.8 nice figure for chinese... Yee Fatt...
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2.6 even better "easy luck"
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Apr 7 2012, 06:07 PM)
Same to me 2.8 from PB, some others bank offer me even higher like 2.83, but i approach the PB for lower to 2.8
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i gotten mine from PBB also 2.8% icon_idea.gif

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post Apr 7 2012, 06:17 PM

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inspira and forte is 15-18k different...quite a big top up eh? shocking.gif
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actually those 2 is the priority...but if both of us satisfied with preve,then preve la...if preve,then i have a chance to trade in my waja too...but not another preve biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:12 PM)
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Depends on what engine do you prefer.

If you think Japanese engine better, then you should consider Inspira Mivec 1.8 or Mivec 2.0. Mivec is proven by Lancer and Inspira and the value of the engine is always there.

CFE only recently use by Exora only. But far no major complaints//

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:12 PM)
2.6 even better "easy luck"
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I tried 2.6 also...but the bank said not possible....

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post Apr 7 2012, 06:20 PM

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Depends on what engine do you prefer.

If you think Japanese engine better, then you should consider Inspira Mivec 1.8 or Mivec 2.0.  Mivec is proven by Lancer and Inspira and the value of the engine is always there.

CFE only recently use by Exora only. But far no major complaints//
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i am not bias to japanese or continental or local cars......about inspira,i dun need to test drive it actually...i used to drive my fren LGT...so basically the same unless for the handling...for that,maybe i will go for a test drive and compare the feel...
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:21 PM

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Tahukah anda?

PROTON PREVE' 1.6 IAFM+ (CVT) EXECUTIVE

- OTR2012 = RM62,990
- DUIT TEMPAHAN = RM500
- DUIT MUKA 10% = RM6,390
- PINJAMAN 90% = RM56,600
- BULANAN = RM660.86

NOTA: PINJAMAN 9 TAHUN, 2.90%

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post Apr 7 2012, 06:23 PM

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my aim now is better number plate....if i manage to get the car 1 week after launch on 16 April, sure the number plate will start with WWQ liao...

WWP is almost over now///
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:23 PM

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㊕ ㊕(≧◡≦) ♠ ♠ ♠Proton Prevé V3♠ ♠ ♠(≧◡≦) ㊕ ㊕

is it too cute for this topic? LOL

㊕ means special in mandarin.

㊕ ㊕(≧◡≦) ♠ ♠ ♠Proton Prevé V3♠ ♠ ♠(≧◡≦) ㊕ ㊕
Special, Cute but aggresive driver, drive Prevé like an ace.

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post Apr 7 2012, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 7 2012, 07:20 PM)
i am not bias to japanese or continental or local cars......about inspira,i dun need to test drive it actually...i used to drive my fren LGT...so basically the same unless for the handling...for that,maybe i will go for a test drive and compare the feel...
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Ya should go got test drive and compare...
If you compare between preve and forte, in my minds, preve would be better because it use multilink suspension....forte use torsion beam... , preve use CFE more powerful.

If you prefer high tech with value for $$$, Preve is always the best choice..

Added on April 7, 2012, 6:28 pm
QUOTE(tanpanama @ Apr 7 2012, 07:21 PM)
Tahukah anda?

PROTON PREVE' 1.6 IAFM+ (CVT) EXECUTIVE

- OTR2012 = RM62,990
- DUIT TEMPAHAN = RM500
- DUIT MUKA 10% = RM6,390
- PINJAMAN 90% = RM56,600
- BULANAN = RM660.86

NOTA: PINJAMAN 9 TAHUN, 2.90%
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Saya tahu.. saya tahu.... facebook sudah ada...and the price is leak everywhere in the internet now.... rclxm9.gif



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post Apr 7 2012, 06:29 PM

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not sure if it is just me or everyone does the same thing.

have to copy paste the word "Prevé" because can't type the e with the symbol...
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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Apr 7 2012, 06:26 PM)
Ya should go got test drive and compare...
If you compare between preve and forte, in my minds, preve would be better because it use multilink suspension....forte use torsion beam... , preve use CFE more powerful.

If you prefer high tech with value for $$$, Preve is always the best choice..

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Saya tahu.. saya tahu.... facebook sudah ada...and the price is leak everywhere in the internet now....    rclxm9.gif
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i am aware about that...to be fair and satisfied b4 we choose,we need to test every single car we are eying...hand itchy edy...hahahaha...
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i got 2.86% maybank..actually,this 1 i applied for persona-56k (90%)loan for 9 yrs,then approved already..planning to change to preve-56k (abt 72%) loan for 5 yrs..dunno the rate will change o not
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not sure if it is just me or everyone does the same thing.

have to copy paste the word "Prevé" because can't type the e with the symbol...
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FYI, the latest pricing was leaked here in LYN last night. We managed went into Proton Edar website and see the latest price. brows.gif

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post Apr 7 2012, 06:33 PM

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i gotten mine from PBB also 2.8%  icon_idea.gif
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bro how many yrs and amount loan?
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FYI, the latest pricing was leaked here in LYN last night. We managed went into Proton Edar website and see the latest price. brows.gif
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Can we get our own car loan ?
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FYI, the latest pricing was leaked here in LYN last night. We managed went into Proton Edar website and see the latest price. brows.gif
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haha...nvm...better late than never...
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post Apr 7 2012, 06:37 PM

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can, except ur SA reluctant to..
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Some SA or some car reseller insists u must get loan through them..
They earn some commission this way.. and of coz buyer pay the price of higher rate.



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haha...nvm...better late than never...
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At least it had make everyone happy..because the price is lower RM2500 from the price previously...

The RM2500 can use to add on the bodykit later.... tongue.gif

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means?
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If you have your own banker with cheaper rate...of coz you may get by your own....but have to inform the SA to deal with him

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QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 7 2012, 06:37 PM)
Some SA or some car reseller insists u must get loan through them..
They earn some commission this way.. and of coz buyer pay the price of higher rate.
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yup... so anyone got a good deal from a good SA pls share here.
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lol arenakerata.com received email from Proton to remove the pictures from Proton Edar website. FD still keeping it.

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yup... so anyone got a good deal from a good SA pls share here.
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apply the loan by yourself. why need to feed the SA? unless you are willing to give them free money.

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can get commission if beli ramai2 brows.gif
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thumbup.gif even better
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Any idea whether we can buy the car in klang valley and ask to get malacca plate number?
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if you want that plate, u have to do it yourself or get a runner to do it.
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apply the loan by yourself. why need to feed the SA? unless you are willing to give them free money.
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U apply loan yourself you dont get special benefit or discount or comm. U apply loan thru SA they get a comission form Bank.

SA earn more, maybe they willing to give u more freebies.
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Apr 7 2012, 06:46 PM)
apply the loan by yourself. why need to feed the SA? unless you are willing to give them free money.
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i will approach bank and then compare what SA is offering.
but i doubt SA will be able to get lesser than 2.8%

those who got 2.8 or lower, mind to share how many yrs and loan amount. so that we have a benchmark
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Would like to know which branch can offer lowest interest too... So the next time i can apply the particular branch. wink.gif

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i dont want freebies. i want lower interest rate.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 7 2012, 06:51 PM)
U apply loan yourself you dont get special benefit or discount or comm. U apply loan thru SA they get a comission form Bank.

SA earn more, maybe they willing to give u more freebies.
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from my understanding, some dealer able to give discounts for the car if they want to sell more cars.
depends on dealer/sales person, the discount you get may vary. from 1k -2k

for the loan comm, few hundreds perhaps.

well depends on the dealer/SA, if they are GOOD before/after sales service and willing to give more discounts, we can refer more buyer to him/her.
win win for all parties.

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i dont want freebies. i want lower interest rate.
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some useless freebies we can buy it cheaper elsewhere...

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 06:58 PM)
from my understanding, some dealer able to give discounts for the car if they want to sell more cars.
depends on dealer/sales person, the discount you get may vary. from 1k -2k

for the loan comm, few hundreds perhaps.

well depends on the dealer/SA, if they are GOOD before/after sales service and willing to give more discounts, we can refer more buyer to him/her.
win win for all parties.
When I took a loan for car late last year, my branch manager fren confirm if I did it thru the SA, the bank will give out comm upto RM600, so I just ask him to put in my SA's name as referal. Understand they will pay to the company who will then pass some to the SA.
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thats the thing. if you get higher interest rate, you'll have to face it throughout 5 - 9 years.
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When I took a loan for car late last year, my branch manager fren confirm if I did it thru the SA, the bank will give out comm upto RM600, so I just ask him to put in my SA's name as referal. Understand they will pay to the company who will then pass some to the SA.
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well then SA might not get the comm from loan as the dealership will either take all or give some to SA.

i read somewhere, Edar SA reluctant to give goodies to buyer, unless they take from their own comm.

dealership still got some leverage at least.

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thats the thing. if you get higher interest rate, you'll have to face it throughout 5 - 9 years.
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yup, and 1% rate difference may cost you from 3k and above depends on yrs of loan.

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off topic, also sharing thought. After reading all the reviews on preve by media, i think that i notice, all saying the iafm+ cvt variant really loud in term of engine sound.

If u follow closely, they mentioned it loud when pedal to metal@at 5k rpm. Not only the engine sound but cvt whining also contribute to that.

The question is, do u need to pedal to metal to overtake driving cvt or even driving uphill or driving up to speed 140-160kmh?

The answer that i gain from my source, is no. Malaysian still new with cvt gbox even its already been around long time ago.

Driving a cvt is not the same as driving twin clutch, conv at n manual where to extract all the power and torque by pedal to metal.

By pedal to metal cvt, the full cvt mode change to 'slow sat mode' where u can see the rev counter climbing slowly to redline(not too slow, it like u r driving only 1 speed gbox, u can see the rev climbing), while in full cvt, the rev can jump to any rpm, depend on input from throttle.

When it reach highest rev, it will static, n of course, u will hear the sound really loud, like driving manual, first gear, rev to redline n never change to next gear.

Pedal to metal only apply in cvt if u need to reach its top most speed(km/h) which is rarely unless u want to test up what is the top speed of ur car or just suka suka.

For example, those who are driving iafm+ cvt, only need to rev around 2k rpm and below for town driving, n 2.5k-3k rpm highway driving, depend on speed u want to reach. If only u want to overtake@needed all the torque available, just pedal up to 4k rpm where the max torque available in engine. Max 85% of throttle input is needed coz beyond 85%,its enter the slow sat mode.

So, in daily or normal driving, balik kampung driving, conquer hilly route, climbing high places n etc,no need to rev beyond 4k rpm. Need better power, just slotted to L mode, it rev 20% higher than normal D mode, n throttle will be crispier n engine braking will be apparent.

Then, if u drive cvt like what it supposed to, then, the engine sound wont be bugging u too much.

Even if u want to gauge the century sprint timing, no need pedal to metal. Just rev up to 4k rpm only coz all torque is there. If u want to get faster timing, slot to L, then rev 4k rpm. While the others keep pedal to metal to reach century sprint n stress the engine to get there(means other 1.6 na with conv auto@manual), u just relaxing cruising at 4k without any jerk due to gear shifting.

Erm, it seems they really used 90kmh control env data for fc in cvt iafm+1.6,rather than target fc @90kmh as in flx 1.3. Coz the real data for flx 1.3 iafm+ cvt is 5.65 L/100km@90kmh, but they publish 6 L/100km based on target fc@90kmh. While mixed fc around 7.68L+-/100km

So, i think combine fc for iafm+1.6 cvt is around 8L+-/100km.

For cfe cvt, no need to comment coz all torque available at 2k rpm, n at 1.5k rpm, already has better torque than iafm+. Just my advice for cfe cvt owners,, try to control ur right foot, dont drive reaching 2k rpm in town driving if u want to extract to most fc for cfe.
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well then SA might not get the comm from loan as the dealership will either take all or give some to SA.

i read somewhere, Edar SA reluctant to give goodies to buyer, unless they take from their own comm.

dealership still got some leverage at least.

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yup, and 1% rate difference may cost you from 3k and above depends on yrs of loan.
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You are right... That is why Edar can't give higher discount compare to dealership like us.
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and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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Proton Edar and dealership not the same ?
dealership is 2nd hand car seller?



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You are right... That is why Edar can't give higher discount compare to dealership like us.
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Proton Edar and dealership not the same ?
dealership is 2nd hand car seller?
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Proton Edar has their own dealer, their call it Edar branch.
While dealership is still using Proton-Edar signboard, selling Proton cars, but just not under Proton Edar Sdn Bhd.
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mat. what is the difference in long distance driving experience between premium and executive model? ill be doing long distance driving the most.

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how many years loan n interest rate?
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mat. what is the difference in long distance driving experience between premium and executive model? ill be doing long distance driving the most.
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Can order http://www.lelong.com.my/hks-sqv-3-super-s...7-01-Sale-I.htm siap siap ?
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Can order http://www.lelong.com.my/hks-sqv-3-super-s...7-01-Sale-I.htm siap siap ?
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btw,1st thing to do when i get my car -- install voltage stabiliser & grounding cble..

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what is tat?sori noob question..lazy search oso
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This is for blow off your turbo. When turbo activated, it suck in more air and this thing will blow off the extra air thus, you will heard the "piuhh...piuhhhh" when you release the pedal of acceleration.

correct me if i'm wrong.
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what is tat?sori noob question..lazy search oso
btw,1st thing to do when i get my car -- install voltage stabiliser & grounding cble..
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:10 PM)
off topic, also sharing thought. After reading all the reviews on preve by media, i think that i notice, all saying the iafm+ cvt variant really loud in term of engine sound.

If u follow closely, they mentioned it loud when pedal to metal@at 5k rpm. Not only the engine sound but cvt whining also contribute to that.

The question is, do u need to pedal to metal to overtake driving cvt or even driving uphill or driving up to speed 140-160kmh?

The answer that i gain from my source, is no. Malaysian still new with cvt gbox even its already been around long time ago.

Driving a cvt is not the same as driving twin clutch, conv at n manual where to extract all the power and torque by pedal to metal.

By pedal to metal cvt, the full cvt mode change to 'slow sat mode' where u can see the rev counter climbing slowly to redline(not too slow, it like u r driving only 1 speed gbox, u can see the rev climbing), while in full cvt, the rev can jump to any rpm, depend on input from throttle.

When it reach highest rev, it will static, n of course, u will hear the sound really loud, like driving manual, first gear, rev to redline n never change to next gear.

Pedal to metal only apply in cvt if u need to reach its top most speed(km/h) which is rarely unless u want to test up what is the top speed of ur car or just suka suka.

For example, those who are driving iafm+ cvt, only need to rev around 2k rpm and below for town driving, n 2.5k-3k rpm highway driving, depend on speed u want to reach. If only u want to overtake@needed all the torque available, just pedal up to 4k rpm where the max torque available in engine. Max 85% of throttle input is needed coz beyond 85%,its enter the slow sat mode.

So, in daily or normal driving, balik kampung driving, conquer hilly route, climbing high places n etc,no need to rev beyond 4k rpm. Need better power, just slotted to L mode, it rev 20% higher than normal D mode, n throttle will be crispier n engine braking will be apparent.

Then, if u drive cvt like what it supposed to, then, the engine sound wont be bugging u too much.

Even if u want to gauge the century sprint timing, no need pedal to metal. Just rev up to 4k rpm only coz all torque is there. If u want to get faster timing, slot to L, then rev 4k rpm. While the others keep pedal to metal to reach century sprint n stress the engine to get there(means other 1.6 na with conv auto@manual), u just relaxing cruising at 4k without any jerk due to gear shifting.

Erm, it seems they really used 90kmh control env data for fc in cvt iafm+1.6,rather than target fc @90kmh as in flx 1.3. Coz the real data for flx 1.3 iafm+ cvt is 5.65 L/100km@90kmh, but they publish 6 L/100km based on target fc@90kmh. While mixed fc around 7.68L+-/100km

So, i think combine fc for iafm+1.6 cvt is around 8L+-/100km.

For cfe cvt, no need to comment coz all torque available at 2k rpm, n at 1.5k rpm, already has better torque than iafm+. Just my advice for cfe cvt owners,, try to control ur right foot, dont drive reaching 2k rpm in town driving if u want to extract to most fc for cfe.
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QUOTE(FenomX @ Apr 7 2012, 09:05 PM)
This is for blow off your turbo. When turbo activated, it suck in more air and this thing will blow off the extra air thus, you will heard the "piuhh...piuhhhh" when you release the pedal of acceleration.

correct me if i'm wrong.
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so the effect will be?

for savvy,after using voltage stabiliser can see the headlight no more became dim abit when start aircond..tat's wat i notice la

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cvt after 120kmh u will start to press deeper..cause u know it starts to slowly catching up speed..which results in high rpm during high speed..only 0-120kmh is fast..i say based on insight and inspira 2.0..

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Overtaking without pedal to metal is just a joke. When u don't pedal to metal, ECU doesn't know your urgency to increase speed. How to overtake? It will be very dangerous. Overtaking at 4k rpm ? Pls tell me is a joke. What i mean here is that all this ECU car need to know your intention (input) to react to it (output). If only half throttle, speed will climb slowly. Full throttle will obviously be more effective than half throttle in this case. Common sense, no matter it's cvt, dsg, torque converter gbox, or a manual.
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Wah go out a few hours already 7 pages, summore all talking money. Feel so left out unsure.gif

QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Apr 7 2012, 09:25 PM)
Overtaking without pedal to metal is just a joke. When u don't pedal to metal, ECU doesn't know your urgency to increase speed. How to overtake? It will be very dangerous. Overtaking at 4k rpm ? Pls tell me is a joke. What i mean here is that all this ECU car need to know your intention (input) to react to it (output). If only half throttle, speed will climb slowly. Full throttle will obviously be more effective than half throttle in this case. Common sense, no matter it's cvt, dsg, torque converter gbox, or a manual.
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Whats wrong with overtaking at 4k RPM? You mean it is too high or too low?
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Wah go out a few hours already 7 pages, summore all talking money. Feel so left out  unsure.gif
Whats wrong with overtaking at 4k RPM? You mean it is too high or too low?
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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Apr 7 2012, 09:25 PM)
Overtaking without pedal to metal is just a joke. When u don't pedal to metal, ECU doesn't know your urgency to increase speed. How to overtake? It will be very dangerous. Overtaking at 4k rpm ? Pls tell me is a joke. What i mean here is that all this ECU car need to know your intention (input) to react to it (output). If only half throttle, speed will climb slowly. Full throttle will obviously be more effective than half throttle in this case. Common sense, no matter it's cvt, dsg, torque converter gbox, or a manual.
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agree with u..since the opening of the throttle body will be maxed out, means maximum air comes in, hence faster increase in rpm..
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agree with u..since the opening of the throttle body will be maxed out, means maximum air comes in, hence faster increase in rpm..
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Maybe what mat trying to say is, you don't need much effort to achieve 140-160kmh. Not that you don't have to floor the pedal to overtake.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:10 PM)
off topic, also sharing thought. After reading all the reviews on preve by media, i think that i notice, all saying the iafm+ cvt variant really loud in term of engine sound.

If u follow closely, they mentioned it loud when pedal to metal@at 5k rpm. Not only the engine sound but cvt whining also contribute to that.

The question is, do u need to pedal to metal to overtake driving cvt or even driving uphill or driving up to speed 140-160kmh?

The answer that i gain from my source, is no. Malaysian still new with cvt gbox even its already been around long time ago.

Driving a cvt is not the same as driving twin clutch, conv at n manual where to extract all the power and torque by pedal to metal.

By pedal to metal cvt, the full cvt mode change to 'slow sat mode' where u can see the rev counter climbing slowly to redline(not too slow, it like u r driving only 1 speed gbox, u can see the rev climbing), while in full cvt, the rev can jump to any rpm, depend on input from throttle.

When it reach highest rev, it will static, n of course, u will hear the sound really loud, like driving manual, first gear, rev to redline n never change to next gear.

Pedal to metal only apply in cvt if u need to reach its top most speed(km/h) which is rarely unless u want to test up what is the top speed of ur car or just suka suka.

For example, those who are driving iafm+ cvt, only need to rev around 2k rpm and below for town driving, n 2.5k-3k rpm highway driving, depend on speed u want to reach. If only u want to overtake@needed all the torque available, just pedal up to 4k rpm where the max torque available in engine. Max 85% of throttle input is needed coz beyond 85%,its enter the slow sat mode.

So, in daily or normal driving, balik kampung driving, conquer hilly route, climbing high places n etc,no need to rev beyond 4k rpm. Need better power, just slotted to L mode, it rev 20% higher than normal D mode, n throttle will be crispier n engine braking will be apparent.

Then, if u drive cvt like what it supposed to, then, the engine sound wont be bugging u too much.

Even if u want to gauge the century sprint timing, no need pedal to metal. Just rev up to 4k rpm only coz all torque is there. If u want to get faster timing, slot to L, then rev 4k rpm. While the others keep pedal to metal to reach century sprint n stress the engine to get there(means other 1.6 na with conv auto@manual), u just relaxing cruising at 4k without any jerk due to gear shifting.

Erm, it seems they really used 90kmh control env data for fc in cvt iafm+1.6,rather than target fc @90kmh as in flx 1.3. Coz the real data for flx 1.3 iafm+ cvt is 5.65 L/100km@90kmh, but they publish 6 L/100km based on target fc@90kmh. While mixed fc around 7.68L+-/100km

So, i think combine fc for iafm+1.6 cvt is around 8L+-/100km.

For cfe cvt, no need to comment coz all torque available at 2k rpm, n at 1.5k rpm, already has better torque than iafm+. Just my advice for cfe cvt owners,, try to control ur right foot, dont drive reaching 2k rpm in town driving if u want to extract to most fc for cfe.
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You're spot on. This is how I drive my Honda City IDSI and Exora Bold CFE. In normal condition, just need to maintain about 2100 RPM for EB, and 2600 RPM for IDSI to smoothly accelerate. To overtake, use the S or L mode. The surge is there. Especially for EB, the engine will scream when I floored the pedal, but the speed gain is so smal, comparatively. Malaysians are probably could not get used to drive with CVT. That's why Honda dropped it altogether and replaced with conventional AT for the new Honda City, I believe.
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QUOTE(MrssV @ Apr 7 2012, 02:50 PM)
Maybe what mat trying to say is, you don't need much effort to achieve 140-160kmh. Not that you don't have to floor the pedal to overtake.
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I think what Mat is trying to say is every combination of engine and transmission have its own optimum point where you can extract the power hp and torque to make the car move. Therefore it is useless to floor the pedal as the engine has already reached its limit. You will not gain any extra power by doing that. Just extract all the power from its optimum point.

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QUOTE(razkal @ Apr 7 2012, 10:01 PM)
I think what Mat is trying to say is every engine and transmission have its own optimum point where you can extract the power hp and torque to make the car move. Therefore it is useless to floor the pedal as the engine has already reached its limit. You will not  gain any extra power by doing that. Just extract all the power from its optimum point.
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My bad. After reading his post once again, maybe you're indeed spot on. biggrin.gif

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If for a conventional AT or MT or DCT drivetrain, yes flooring the pedal may work because the speed climbs with your RPM, and the faster your RPM climbs, tha faster your speed increases.

For a CVT, the RPM is almost independent of the speed (I say almost, because there are still fixed RPMs for cruising speeds), therefore let's say you mash the throttle and the RPM climb like mad, you will still see that your speed is just slowly catching up. In a CVT drivetrain, you want to keep your RPM at the peak of the torque curve, only then your speed will climb the fastest.

This is the advantage of a CVT system, you don't need to climb the entire RPM range (in other words, the entire torque curve) to gain speed, you just need to keep it at the RPM where the torque is maximum, in the Campro IAFM+, that's 4k RPM.
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OK...I think when preve is out, owner can try a drag race 0-120 km/hr by using diff method to find out the answer. Whether pedal to medal or half throttle or whatever throttle position that says 4k rpm.
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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Apr 7 2012, 10:21 PM)
OK...I think when preve is out, owner can try a drag race 0-120 km/hr by using diff method to find out the answer. Whether pedal to medal or half throttle or whatever throttle position that says 4k rpm.
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No need to wait for Preve, if you just wanna test the 1.6 IAFM+ CVT variant (since we are talking about max torque @ 4k RPM), the Saga FLX SE shares the same powertrain and characteristics, minus the weight.

The CFE CVT variant reaches max torque at 2k RPM.
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OK. Saga 1.6 cvt owner, go test it to prove which is a better method, 0 - 120km/hr. Pedal to metal or stick to your max torque at 4k rpm.

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Apr 7 2012, 03:21 PM)
OK...I think when preve is out, owner can try a drag race 0-120 km/hr by using diff method to find out the answer. Whether pedal to medal or half throttle or whatever throttle position that says 4k rpm.
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I dont understand why do you want to race using this car. It's not meant for racing. It's transmission and gearbox was designed for normal consumer use in Malaysian road although it was also tested oversea.

The characteristic of the car driving, accelaration, suspension etc had been designed so it will offer comfortable driving experience. Not like race car settings or sportsmode whatever.

That's why no point revving the engine so high pedal to metal to get the power, just extract the power from its optimal point, unless this car is satria neo S2000.

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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Apr 7 2012, 10:28 PM)
OK. Saga 1.6 cvt owner, go test it to prove which is a better method, 0 - 120km/hr. Pedal to metal or stick to your max torque at 4k rpm.
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And what do I get in return? you stamp of approval? no thanks.

I am happy driving 90km/h @ 2k RPM and I have no incentive to risk life and limb to prove you wrong. If you like, just visit your nearest Proton showroom and ask for a test drive.

Furthermore, a 0-120kmh sprint is not the definitive indication of how well a car accelerate from a rolling start eg. overtaking, something I learned the hard way.
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boy racer why buy preve? turbo+cvt = doh.gif

buy old honda civic, plonk in vtec la. can smoke new type R in sepang.

buy preve trying to pwn family sedan is kiddo.

i always saw ppl in proton 1 family drive at 180km/h. if they go, they make sure they do in 1 family, no one left behind. from satria to exora.


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QUOTE(ahsam1212 @ Apr 7 2012, 10:28 PM)
OK. Saga 1.6 cvt owner, go test it to prove which is a better method, 0 - 120km/hr. Pedal to metal or stick to your max torque at 4k rpm.
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i think it more to psychological rushing.... like some people rushing picit2 butang lif...u tekan byk kali pun kelajuan lif tetap sama...
so same like engine car la...
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 03:53 PM)
boy racer why buy preve? turbo+cvt = doh.gif

buy old honda civic, plonk in vtec la. can smoke new type R in sepang.

buy preve trying to pwn family sedan is kiddo.

i always saw ppl in proton 1 family drive at 180km/h. if they go, they make sure they do in 1 family, no one left behind. from satria to exora.
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Lol. thats's funny. What you said is true. People buy car like proton, perodua, kancil H& T also not excluded than put turbo modded here and there.

The car chassis,suspension etc is not tuned for racing for god sake. If you really want to race buy la those high performance engine car BMW M5 ke? doh.gif

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QUOTE(tanpanama @ Apr 7 2012, 10:56 PM)
i think it more to psychological rushing.... like some people rushing picit2 butang lif...u tekan byk kali pun kelajuan lif tetap sama...
so same like engine car la...
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It's not psycho. Test to find out. Nothing is more solid than a proper test result. Can saga owner with cvt test it out? Get a friend to time your 0-120km/hr with both methods mentioned?

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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ya, some other car rear disc brake is smaller than 15".
preve both front n rear are 15" which is i like. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(razkal @ Apr 7 2012, 10:01 PM)
I think what Mat is trying to say is every combination of engine and transmission have its own optimum point where you can extract the power hp and torque to make the car move. Therefore it is useless to floor the pedal as the engine has already reached its limit. You will not  gain any extra power by doing that. Just extract all the power from its optimum point.
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yup agree rclxms.gif

floor the pedal only drink more fuel.
see the chart, just maintain at the optimum RPM
understand the chart then you will understand the engine.

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normally how long to wait for second batch?

i plan to wait for review from first batch, the specs, the features, the fancy stuff, all very gooding, only one aspect left to be considered, the famous low quality of proton cars....

if the review is good, i straight go book preve 1.6L premium....in second batch...
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:27 PM)
normally how long to wait for second batch?

i plan to wait for review from first batch, the specs, the features, the fancy stuff, all very gooding, only one aspect left to be considered, the famous low quality of proton cars....

if the review is good, i straight go book preve 1.6L premium....in second batch...
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best to avoid first batch.

you very smart.

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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Apr 7 2012, 09:55 PM)
You're spot on. This is how I drive my Honda City IDSI and Exora Bold CFE. In normal condition, just need to maintain about 2100 RPM for EB, and 2600 RPM for IDSI to smoothly accelerate. To overtake, use the S or L mode. The surge is there. Especially for EB, the engine will scream when I floored the pedal, but the speed gain is so smal, comparatively. Malaysians are probably could not get used to drive with CVT. That's why Honda dropped it altogether and replaced with conventional AT for the new Honda City, I believe.
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 7 2012, 10:26 PM)
No need to wait for Preve, if you just wanna test the 1.6 IAFM+ CVT variant (since we are talking about max torque @ 4k RPM), the Saga FLX SE shares the same powertrain and characteristics, minus the weight.

The CFE CVT variant reaches max torque at 2k RPM.
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for 0-100 sprint, torque plays a role, just as horsepower. the hp at 2k rpm wont make it to 100kmh. but i do agree, with the CVT, normal day driving, u'll rarely rev it to redline

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Super Gd news! My SA can offer cash rebate up to rm 250 on tops of freebies such as steering lock, smart tag, full tank=) pm me!!
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1. Cash rebate - this not sure how much can SA offer.
2. smart tag - The SmartTAG will be sold at RM130 per unit inclusive of FREE Touch ‘n Go
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steering lock, i think better to buy a good one unless SA can give a good one.
security etching already included.
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best to avoid first batch.

you very smart.

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:43 PM)
for 0-100 sprint, torque plays a role, just as horsepower. the hp at 2k rpm wont make it to 100kmh. but i do agree, with the CVT, normal day driving, u'll rarely rev it to redline
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my ideal of "Goodies from SA"
1. Cash rebate - this not sure how much can SA offer.
2. smart tag - The SmartTAG will be sold at RM130 per unit inclusive of FREE Touch ‘n Go
card with RM10 reload value.

steering lock, i think better to buy a good one unless SA can give a good one.
security etching already included.
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
flaming?sarcasm?
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it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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off topic, also sharing thought. After reading all the reviews on preve by media, i think that i notice, all saying the iafm+ cvt variant really loud in term of engine sound.

If u follow closely, they mentioned it loud when pedal to metal@at 5k rpm. Not only the engine sound but cvt whining also contribute to that.

The question is, do u need to pedal to metal to overtake driving cvt or even driving uphill or driving up to speed 140-160kmh?

The answer that i gain from my source, is no. Malaysian still new with cvt gbox even its already been around long time ago.

Driving a cvt is not the same as driving twin clutch, conv at n manual where to extract all the power and torque by pedal to metal.

By pedal to metal cvt, the full cvt mode change to 'slow sat mode' where u can see the rev counter climbing slowly to redline(not too slow, it like u r driving only 1 speed gbox, u can see the rev climbing), while in full cvt, the rev can jump to any rpm, depend on input from throttle.

When it reach highest rev, it will static, n of course, u will hear the sound really loud, like driving manual, first gear, rev to redline n never change to next gear.

Pedal to metal only apply in cvt if u need to reach its top most speed(km/h) which is rarely unless u want to test up what is the top speed of ur car or just suka suka.

For example, those who are driving iafm+ cvt, only need to rev around 2k rpm and below for town driving, n 2.5k-3k rpm highway driving, depend on speed u want to reach. If only u want to overtake@needed all the torque available, just pedal up to 4k rpm where the max torque available in engine. Max 85% of throttle input is needed coz beyond 85%,its enter the slow sat mode.

So, in daily or normal driving, balik kampung driving, conquer hilly route, climbing high places n etc,no need to rev beyond 4k rpm. Need better power, just slotted to L mode, it rev 20% higher than normal D mode, n throttle will be crispier n engine braking will be apparent.

Then, if u drive cvt like what it supposed to, then, the engine sound wont be bugging u too much.

Even if u want to gauge the century sprint timing, no need pedal to metal. Just rev up to 4k rpm only coz all torque is there. If u want to get faster timing, slot to L, then rev 4k rpm. While the others keep pedal to metal to reach century sprint n stress the engine to get there(means other 1.6 na with conv auto@manual), u just relaxing cruising at 4k without any jerk due to gear shifting.

Erm, it seems they really used 90kmh control env data for fc in cvt iafm+1.6,rather than target fc @90kmh as in flx 1.3. Coz the real data for flx 1.3 iafm+ cvt is 5.65 L/100km@90kmh, but they publish 6 L/100km based on target fc@90kmh. While mixed fc around 7.68L+-/100km

So, i think combine fc for iafm+1.6 cvt is around 8L+-/100km.

For cfe cvt, no need to comment coz all torque available at 2k rpm, n at 1.5k rpm, already has better torque than iafm+. Just my advice for cfe cvt owners,, try to control ur right foot, dont drive reaching 2k rpm in town driving if u want to extract to most fc for cfe.
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Hearing from my friends who are driving turbocharged cars, they said there is not much difference between half throttle and full throttle once the boost kicks in. But those are high performance SR20s with huge turbos. In the case of the Preve, is it the same?

QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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the disc itself is 15"? you sure bro? The rims 15" i faham la but the disc? sweat.gif
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it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:53 PM)
it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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yup, i do feel 1st batch may not be the best batch to get.

too bad i can't wait till FL or SE or LE. sad sad sad
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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last i heard the Gen 2 front bonnet (hope the term is correct) burst open when some crazy ppl drive the car to the max speed...

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:58 PM)
yup, i do feel 1st batch may not be the best batch to get.

too bad i can't wait till FL or SE or LE. sad sad sad
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no need to wait that long what...i think second batch is sufficient....
cant wait to smoke those 1.8 civic....hehehe brows.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 7 2012, 11:54 PM)
And not just Proton, might I add.
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yaya..like those honda city guys, 1st batch kena nicely from honda. not to mention the civic's power steering

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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the inspira has 15/14, do u know the figures for the inspira?

The altis has 15/15 as well, but i am not sure about he civic.



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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:02 AM)
yaya..like those honda city guys, 1st batch kena nicely from honda. not to mention the civic's power steering
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying cry.gif

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:59 PM)
last i heard the Gen 2 front bonnet (hope the term is correct) burst open when some crazy ppl drive the car to the max speed...

Added on April 8, 2012, 12:00 am
no need to wait that long what...i think second batch is sufficient....
cant wait to smoke those 1.8 civic....hehehe brows.gif
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ya lor can't wait for that long, shld be getting 2nd batch.

hmm,if 1st batch got problem, how soon or which batch normally they will apply the fix?
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:05 AM)
I dunno the story leh, do educate us  brows.gif

Added on April 8, 2012, 12:08 am

Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying  cry.gif
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dont have to think too far, during the saga flx launch, the cvts were recalled.

Yes, i know other makes have problems with the 1st batch as well, but the most recent one was the saga flx.

the pros, feel good factor,

cons, when ur car hv problem, u r the only one. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:05 AM)
I dunno the story leh, do educate us  brows.gif

Added on April 8, 2012, 12:08 am

Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying  cry.gif
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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i witness one of that myself in MRR2... so mani yrs ago!

but still fresh in memori

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:09 AM)
ya lor can't wait for that long, shld be getting 2nd batch.

hmm,if 1st batch got problem, how soon or which batch normally they will apply the fix?
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this is a tricky one, perhaps when they start to export them? then by then, most of the teething problems would be solved. which explains why the export market starts a few months after launch
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:55 AM)
Hearing from my friends who are driving turbocharged cars, they said there is not much difference between half throttle and full throttle once the boost kicks in. But those are high performance SR20s with huge turbos. In the case of the Preve, is it the same?
the disc itself is 15"? you sure bro? The rims 15" i faham la but the disc? sweat.gif
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im saying this from my own experience of driving my friends GTi. you certainly do not need to floor the pedal to get the boost, in fact you can feel the 'torque' kicking in less than half throttle, if you get what i mean. if you floor the pedal directly from a static condition, then expect the orgasmic sound of tyre spin smile.gif im not sure about preve but if its powerful enough, perhaps no need to floor all the way down.
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:09 AM)
ya lor can't wait for that long, shld be getting 2nd batch.

hmm,if 1st batch got problem, how soon or which batch normally they will apply the fix?
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Once they have determined that it is not an isolated defect (means MANY customers have complained the same thing), they will find a way to rectify the flaw and pass down the information to their SCs. At the same time they will apply the fix to their production line, if the car is still in production. If the problem is serious, they will actively issue a recall.

Which is why first batch users are considered as white mice, YOU are the one who has to tell them what is wrong and wait for them to find out a solution, AFTER many customers have come to their SCs with the same problem.

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from the screenshots files...

PREVE = 1700kg...

Inspira = 1352 kg

Persona = 1195 kg

Preve is a heavy car... Fuel must be powerful too
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QUOTE(11c @ Apr 8 2012, 12:28 AM)
from the screenshots files...

PREVE = 1700kg...

Inspira = 1352 kg

Persona = 1195 kg

Preve is a heavy car... Fuel must be powerful too
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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Haha.. Come out old story ... Neway i hv seen myvi caught fire too.. Different issue??smile.gif

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QUOTE(11c @ Apr 8 2012, 12:28 AM)
from the screenshots files...

PREVE = 1700kg...

Inspira = 1352 kg

Persona = 1195 kg

Preve is a heavy car... Fuel must be powerful too
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Preve 1.7 ton??? Hahaha.. Dont cheat ppl k

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QUOTE(11c @ Apr 8 2012, 12:28 AM)
from the screenshots files...

PREVE = 1700kg...

Inspira = 1352 kg

Persona = 1195 kg

Preve is a heavy car... Fuel must be powerful too
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Abang, 1.7 tonnes is the gross weight.

The car's kerb weight is 1.34 tonnes doh.gif doh.gif
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Abang says he weight 300kg ok?
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Abang says he weight 300kg ok?
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He dint say PREVE + Abang = 1,700 kg
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He dint say PREVE + Abang = 1,700 kg
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If calculate like that then persona have to deduct 300kg shocking.gif
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so where is the preve link?

cant seems to find it in proton edar website?

1.7 ton is way too heavy for a 1.6engine.

drive it to believe it.
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QUOTE(Az prevay @ Apr 8 2012, 12:33 AM)
Haha.. Come out old story ... Neway i hv seen myvi caught fire too.. Different issue??smile.gif

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your life, your money, your choice.

if i want this car badly, i would buy second batch, not be a fanboy defending a product that is not even bought smile.gif .

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Proton has already received about 1,000 bookings even before the launch, with 75% of bookings for the Premium variant.

As a global car, Proton has the world market in mind for the Prevé, with Indonesia and Thailand likely to be the first export markets in Asean to get it within three months of the domestic launch, followed by a gradual rollout to other countries such as China, Iran and Australia. Export cars will retain the Prevé name.


The Prevé now has 1,000 bookings, with CFE model is the majority.

Looks like this is a good beginning.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:57 PM)
it is a right move. a few gen 2 caught fire when it first launch.

unless u very sure first batch plastic is better, lol.
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Why so worry about first batch plastic? If you were saying quality in terms of material used, fit and finish, the first batch would have the most out of it. Once the production ramp up, you might seeing the cutting cost approach take effect.

If you say being a white mice, then it is apply to all cars and might as well waiting for third, 4th, or 5th batch. Hei, why dont wait for a new replacement model? Oh wait.. need to wait for the 2nd batch of that new replacement model...


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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 8 2012, 08:46 AM)
http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?...4&sec=lifefocus
The Prevé now has 1,000 bookings, with CFE model is the majority.

Looks like this is a good beginning.
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If that's the case I don't think I'm getting PREVE because I've to get my new car by latest end of this month. My sister want to trade in her city (I'm using) for jazz hybrid.

I saw blue and silver PREVE on federal highway yesterday. They have cover front and back of the car with black sticker. The blue color no nice....
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 8 2012, 08:46 AM)
http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?...4&sec=lifefocus
The Prevé now has 1,000 bookings, with CFE model is the majority.

Looks like this is a good beginning.
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I wonder how many application will get rejected hmm.gif
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I wonder how many application will get rejected  hmm.gif
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I shall get it later this year, when my situation forces me to get a car laugh.gif

That said, with recent reveal that the actual price will be lower than tentative ones, I think I shall take CFE as well, otherwise, no point of getting this car smile.gif

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I shall get it later this year, when my situation forces me to get a car  laugh.gif

That said, with recent reveal that the actual price will be lower than tentative ones, I think I shall take CFE as well, otherwise, no point of getting this car  smile.gif
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 8 2012, 08:51 AM)
Why so worry about first batch plastic? If you were saying quality in terms of material used, fit and finish, the first batch would have the most out of it.  Once the production ramp up, you might seeing the cutting cost approach take effect.

If you say being a white mice, then it is apply to all cars and might as well waiting for third, 4th, or 5th batch. Hei, why dont wait for a new replacement model? Oh wait.. need to wait for the 2nd batch of that new replacement model...
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Hihi... Did he say the same thing when exora or saga flx launched before "wink"
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 04:08 AM)
so where is the preve link?

cant seems to find it in proton edar website?

1.7 ton is way too heavy for a 1.6engine.

drive it to believe it.
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Site removed. It was not in the main website in the first place. We enter the preve section 'manually' before they took it down.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 8 2012, 08:51 AM)
Why so worry about first batch plastic? If you were saying quality in terms of material used, fit and finish, the first batch would have the most out of it.  Once the production ramp up, you might seeing the cutting cost approach take effect.

If you say being a white mice, then it is apply to all cars and might as well waiting for third, 4th, or 5th batch. Hei, why dont wait for a new replacement model? Oh wait.. need to wait for the 2nd batch of that new replacement model...
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doh.gif

why even you dont have confidence in proton? you also think they will cut cost so fast?

my opinion,
1st batch = iron out engineering problems based on user feedback / improvement based on feedback
2nd batch = more polished product, not low cost watered down version doh.gif.

if even supporters have doubt in the quality of second batch and beyond product from proton, i must say, proton has a tough time ahead.
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 8 2012, 09:07 AM)
doh.gif

why even you dont have confidence in proton? you also think they will cut cost so fast?

my opinion,
1st batch = iron out engineering problems based on user feedback / improvement based on feedback
2nd batch = more polished product, not low cost watered down version doh.gif.

if even supporters have doubt in the quality of second batch and beyond product from proton, i must say, proton has a tough time ahead.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Apr 8 2012, 08:51 AM)
Why so worry about first batch plastic? If you were saying quality in terms of material used, fit and finish, the first batch would have the most out of it.  Once the production ramp up, you might seeing the cutting cost approach take effect.

If you say being a white mice, then it is apply to all cars and might as well waiting for third, 4th, or 5th batch. Hei, why dont wait for a new replacement model? Oh wait.. need to wait for the 2nd batch of that new replacement model...
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Hmm..the wait will never end then tongue.gif
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Kindly put me in the list...

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Az prevay|solid white| CFE CVT Premium - booking date 2 apr... Mind ti share ur interest rate which bank?
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Kindly put me in the list...

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so you're gonna give up your forte ? are you trade it in? at proton?
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Az prevay|solid white| CFE CVT Premium - booking date 2 apr... Mind ti share ur interest rate which bank?
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Yet to confirm the interest rate coz the car's price also not confirm yet..but base on the last tentative price (75k), i got 2.85% from Ambank. Will confirm back the interest rate later on when the actual price is there..preferably with Maybank instead

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so you're gonna give up your forte ? are you trade it in? at proton?
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Ohh..surely not..hehe. My Forte is just 2 years old+. I'm not going to let it go so early coz this CBU car got no problem whatsoever. Actually i'm buying the Preve for my wife & will trade in her 2006 Kenari instead tongue.gif

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if everyone can post their loan amt/bank name/branch and interest rate.. and maybe the bank person in charge.

hahah all buyers can storm the cheapest bank , all happy..
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if everyone can post their loan amt/bank name/branch and interest rate.. and maybe the bank person in charge.

hahah all buyers can storm the cheapest bank , all happy..
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if put/recommend to bank with lowest interest, can get commission from potential LYN buyers?? brows.gif
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did u all get confirmed with a date of getting ur car by ur SA?
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SA mention u getting the car within one month if you booked before the launch and 2 months if you booked after the launch
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My sa said can get the car in May..
Mine 2.83% maybank
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 04:08 AM)

1.7 ton is way too heavy for a 1.6engine.

drive it to believe it.
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the Preve car alone with standard equipment weighs 1.3 tonnes, not 1.7 tonnes doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 8 2012, 10:10 AM)
Kindly put me in the list...

izputra | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT  - Booking date : 19/03/2012
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kiapreve| Fire Read| CFE CVT - Booking date: 18/03/2012 (Receipt date: 19/03/2012)

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QUOTE(hAnn @ Apr 8 2012, 11:02 AM)
did u all get confirmed with a date of getting ur car by ur SA?
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My SA told me, if we booking during the Power Of 1 fair, we will get the car within 1 month. Yesterday my SA told me, hope to get the car few day after launch and he try his best to get the car ready within the week after the car launch.

Added on April 8, 2012, 11:16 am
QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 8 2012, 10:37 AM)
if everyone can post their loan amt/bank name/branch and interest rate.. and maybe the bank person in charge.

hahah all buyers can storm the cheapest bank , all happy..
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Mines: Loan RM 67900 (base on previous tentative price RM75500)
Interest Rate: 2.8%
bank: PB
Tenure: 9 years

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When I booked the car at Power of 1, I received a letter from proton shortly saying that my car will be delivered tentatively on May 2012.

Interest/bank/years/loan amount :

2.8%/hong leong/7 yrs/60k

this is based on trading in my saga BLM.... but now, I have second thought to trade in my merce e240 instead since I want some cash and to reduce maintanence cost of the merce.
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QUOTE(Az prevay @ Apr 8 2012, 06:05 AM)
Future preve owner
Booked
White/premium cvt cfe/
Loan approved oredi.. 7 years for 2.83%.. ButInterest rate abit high i guess .. Need to nego less than 2.8%
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what is the amount u loan? and which bank?

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I wonder how many application will get rejected  hmm.gif
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shld be quite high loan rejection...

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QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 8 2012, 09:37 AM)
if everyone can post their loan amt/bank name/branch and interest rate.. and maybe the bank person in charge.

hahah all buyers can storm the cheapest bank , all happy..
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yeah would be easier.

loan amount:
loan years:
rate:
bank:
banker: this better use PM.

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Kindly put me in the list...

izputra | Genetic Silver | CFE CVT  - Booking date : 19/03/2012
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respect, i just wanna wait till car come out then test then book
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Hearing from my friends who are driving turbocharged cars, they said there is not much difference between half throttle and full throttle once the boost kicks in. But those are high performance SR20s with huge turbos. In the case of the Preve, is it the same?
the disc itself is 15"? you sure bro? The rims 15" i faham la but the disc? sweat.gif
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ha..ha.. Your friends driving turbo with cvt ??? If u read closely, all above is for na version of cvt.

For turbo, yup, as long as its reach 2k-4k rpm, it doesnt matter, only depend on what speed u want to reach. If want to reach 100kmh@century sprint, yup just press at 2k-2.3k rpm is just enough to gauge the century sprint coz torque us max, n if not mistaken, cfecvt@2k rpm=96kmh+- while 2.3krpm=110kmh+-. Only cfe manual, then pedal to metal rules apply, but since the torque is flat from 2k-4k rpm, to gauge century sprint, just need to rev up to 4k rpm, then shift coz even after shifting rpm is drop, but it still above 2k rpm which all maximum torque is available. Unless for na@ old type turbo, dont have flat torque, pedal to metal is the best method.

Yup, it is 15 inch disc. Knp, xpercaya ke :-). Rim is 16 inch.
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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 8 2012, 09:18 AM)
Yet to confirm the interest rate coz the car's price also not confirm yet..but base on the last tentative price (75k), i got 2.85% from Ambank. Will confirm back the interest rate later on when the actual price is there..preferably with Maybank instead

Added on April 8, 2012, 9:23 am
Ohh..surely not..hehe. My Forte is just 2 years old+. I'm not going to let it go so early coz this CBU car got no problem whatsoever. Actually i'm buying the Preve for my wife & will trade in her 2006 Kenari instead  tongue.gif
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as i was saying last time ,u probably take the preve ur wife takes the forte
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For turbo, yup, as long as its reach 2k-4k rpm, it doesnt matter, only depend on what speed u want to reach. If want to reach 100kmh@century sprint, yup just press at 2k-2.3k rpm is just enough to gauge the century sprint coz torque us max, n if not mistaken, cfecvt@2k rpm=96kmh+- while 2.3krpm=110kmh+-. Only cfe manual, then pedal to metal rules apply, but since the torque is flat from 2k-4k rpm, to gauge century sprint, just need to rev up to 4k rpm, then shift coz even after shifting rpm is drop, but it still above 2k rpm which all maximum torque is available. Unless for na@ old type turbo, dont have flat torque, pedal to metal is the best method.

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So we buy some sort of rpm controller to block throttle at max 4100rpm fuh...Better Fc and ex5
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So we buy some sort of rpm controller to block throttle at max 4100rpm fuh...Better Fc and ex5
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Hack ECU to rev cut at 4.1k ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
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hmm, looks like lowest is around 2.8% for 7yrs 10% DP

HLB - 2.78%
PBB - 2.8%
MBB - 2.83% always slightly higher than other bank
AMB - 2.85%

any other bank i left out?

Added on April 8, 2012, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:50 AM)
ha..ha.. Your friends driving turbo with cvt ??? If u read closely, all above is for na version of cvt.

For turbo, yup, as long as its reach 2k-4k rpm, it doesnt matter, only depend on what speed u want to reach. If want to reach 100kmh@century sprint, yup just press at 2k-2.3k rpm is just enough to gauge the century sprint coz torque us max, n if not mistaken, cfecvt@2k rpm=96kmh+- while 2.3krpm=110kmh+-. Only cfe manual, then pedal to metal rules apply, but since the torque is flat from 2k-4k rpm, to gauge century sprint, just need to rev up to 4k rpm, then shift coz even after shifting rpm is drop, but it still above 2k rpm which all maximum torque is available. Unless for na@ old type turbo, dont have flat torque, pedal to metal is the best method.

Yup, it is 15 inch disc. Knp, xpercaya ke :-). Rim is 16 inch.
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wow mat u are the man... if you have a workshop everyone here will go support you thumbup.gif

then need to educate my gf once i got this car.

Added on April 8, 2012, 12:10 pmbtw can TS prepare a checklist for car collection.

this gonna be a long list, due Prevé has so MANY features.

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ohh yea.... the banker told me the 2.8% is islamic financing and for conventional it will be slightly lower ~ 2.79 or 2.78%
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ohh yea.... the banker told me the 2.8% is islamic financing and for conventional it will be slightly lower ~ 2.79 or 2.78%
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oh so 2.78 possible
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the Preve car alone with standard equipment weighs 1.3 tonnes, not 1.7 tonnes  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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1300KG??????

more heavier than the bulky waja? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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1300KG??????

more heavier than the bulky waja? shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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nvm only few hundred kg, 1.6CFE = 2.0 performance no problem at all.
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If ppl dun believe the power of Turbo, try to out run VW Jetta first 300meters laaa . 1400cc engine only weight 1.4tons, your $100K T&H 2000cc engine also no power arr? see which engine will konk or condemmn first?
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:18 PM)
1300KG??????

more heavier than the bulky waja? shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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It is a larger car than the Waja, in fact, it is one of the largest in it's segment. And all those features (ABS, ESC, Turbo, Etc. etc.)? they all add weight to the car.

Plus Waja is about 100kg lighter only and runs on a 1.6. The Preve's turbo, once engaged, is claimed to be equivalent to a 2.0 engine.

That's why people keep saying, get the CFE, forget about the IAFM variant.

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:28 PM)
It is a larger car than the Waja, in fact, it is one of the largest in it's segment. And all those features (ABS, ESC, Turbo, Etc. etc.)? they all add weight to the car.

Plus Waja is about 100kg lighter only and runs on a 1.6. The Preve's turbo, once engaged, is claimed to be equivalent to a 2.0 engine.

That's why people keep saying, get the CFE, forget about the IAFM variant.
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equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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Under 2k RPM (Before the turbo boost), it still runs as a normal 1.6 engine. 2k RPM with the CVT, according to mat79, can go up to 93 km/h. So for city driving, most of the time you won't be boosting, except for overtaking, slope climbing and the occasional spirited driving.

In my experience with my Saga CVT, I can drive the car under 2k and reach 85-90 km/h, even during mild acceleration I can still keep it under 2k, so it is perfectly driveable in urban settings.

Of course once you reach highway speed, you will be boosting all the way, but running on turbo doesn't mean it is not fuel efficient.

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Apr 8 2012, 09:07 AM)
doh.gif

why even you dont have confidence in proton? you also think they will cut cost so fast?

my opinion,
1st batch = iron out engineering problems based on user feedback / improvement based on feedback
2nd batch = more polished product, not low cost watered down version doh.gif.

if even supporters have doubt in the quality of second batch and beyond product from proton, i must say, proton has a tough time ahead.
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its not proton at all...every business did business the same way
the cost for 1st batch is always more expensive than other batch with lowest profit....2nd batch onward, they will start to cut cost/localize part to lower the cost to maximize the profit
every business did it the same way
1st batch parts are always better and more imported than localize
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respect, i just wanna wait till car come out then test then book
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Hahaha..last time i booked my Forte also before the launching date without seeing the actual car in the flesh..even the full specs for the Forte 2.0 also yet to be announced that time. But i'm not simply gambling buying this car (Forte) that time, i actually did a lot of research & read many reviews from US, Aussie & Singapore before i make up my mind to got for it. I booked very earlier that time in order to secure the first hundreds of CBU unit directly from Korea thumbup.gif

But for Preve, it's more like a gambling to me..be like a white mice. No reviews..nothing..really put my faith again on Proton this time after the Wira aeroback & the Waja. Hopefully the Preve will prove itself...

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 8 2012, 11:53 AM)
as i was saying last time ,u  probably take the preve ur wife takes the forte
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whistling.gif ...hehe

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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If you use the torque, then yes it is equivalent to 2.0. If not, then it is 1.6 FC. So, advantages to CFE against the 2.0 NA.
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
equivalent to 2.0 engine Fuel Consumption if you ask me. shakehead.gif

since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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A engine spining at 2,000 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve 205Nm Torque

OR

MIVEc 2.0P engine spinning 4,250 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve MAX 197Nm Torque


which engine need more fuel? Which engine will fly faster INITIALLY?
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 12:47 PM)
since when proton engine is fuel save 1? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Apr 8 2012, 01:18 PM)
A engine spining at 2,000 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve 205Nm Torque

OR

MIVEc 2.0P engine spinning 4,250 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve MAX 197Nm Torque
which engine need more fuel? Which engine will fly faster INITIALLY?
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well...if u compare it like that
i would say the CFE is faster but the mivec will be more fuel efficient
after all, mivec is a more advance engine...campro is like old fashioned outdated engine with a low boost turbo afterall
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 8 2012, 01:28 PM)
well...if u compare it like that
i would say the CFE is faster but the mivec will be more fuel efficient
after all, mivec is a more advance engine...campro is like old fashioned outdated engine with a low boost turbo afterall
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4b11 has the mivec, which in toyota lingo, dual vvti, but town drive can get around 10km/l only.

interested to see the cfe. but again, hard to compare la..if got turbo, sure very addictive 1. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 8 2012, 01:32 PM)
4b11 has the mivec, which in toyota lingo, dual vvti, but town drive can get around 10km/l only.

interested to see the cfe. but again, hard to compare la..if got turbo, sure very addictive 1. tongue.gif
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TEKKAAANNNNN.

Then ppl wonder why turbo FC so bad rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 8 2012, 01:32 PM)
4b11 has the mivec, which in toyota lingo, dual vvti, but town drive can get around 10km/l only.

interested to see the cfe. but again, hard to compare la..if got turbo, sure very addictive 1. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:05 PM)
hmm, looks like lowest is around 2.8% for 7yrs 10% DP

HLB - 2.78%
PBB - 2.8%
MBB - 2.83% always slightly higher than other bank
AMB - 2.85%

any other bank i left out?

Added on April 8, 2012, 12:07 pm
what about if put high dp and max 3 years loan?

rm35k dp and loan 37k for 3 years? the rate will be higher>?
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haha..we mivec also always want to tekan..imagine turbo lah. tongue.gif
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what is the amount u loan? and which bank?

Added on April 8, 2012, 11:46 am

shld be quite high loan rejection...

Added on April 8, 2012, 11:50 am

yeah would be easier.

loan amount:
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anyone here who already booked and get interest below 2.8%., please ley me know which bank =)
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QUOTE(xtjs @ Apr 8 2012, 01:36 PM)
what about if put high dp and max 3 years loan?

rm35k dp and loan 37k for 3 years? the rate will be higher>?
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depends on which bank. you got to approach your bank and find out.
do share with us once you got the info.

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depends on which bank. you got to approach your bank and find out.
do share with us once you got the info.
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depends on which bank. you got to approach your bank and find out.
do share with us once you got the info.
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i dont have the time to approach banks sad.gif

will check out with SA but not now ... might just get the car afetr july so i can transfer another old car;s ncb to the new preve.

irb will only kacau if buy cash. if there is a loan, its no problem.

i am deciding on a 2 or 3 years loan. anything more than this is insane!
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大家好，我们都好期待preve！

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TEKKAAANNNNN.

Then ppl wonder why turbo FC so bad  rolleyes.gif
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No. 15..kindly update my nickname please..izputra not zputra  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 8 2012, 02:19 PM)
Proton engine on idling also sucking fuel like drinking cendol on a hot sunny day.
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this is based on malaysian taste criteria, Proton know all of us love cendul rclxm9.gif


omg, what kind of reply is this...

Added on April 8, 2012, 2:30 pm
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i dont have the time to approach banks sad.gif

will check out with SA but not now ... might just get the car afetr july so i can transfer another old car;s ncb to the new preve.

irb will only kacau if buy cash. if there is a loan, its no problem.

i am deciding on a 2 or 3 years loan. anything more than this is insane!
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:56 PM)
Under 2k RPM (Before the turbo boost), it still runs as a normal 1.6 engine. 2k RPM with the CVT, according to mat79, can go up to 93 km/h. So for city driving, most of the time you won't be boosting, except for overtaking, slope climbing and the occasional spirited driving.

In my experience with my Saga CVT, I can drive the car under 2k and reach 85-90 km/h, even during mild acceleration I can still keep it under 2k, so it is perfectly driveable in urban settings.

Of course once you reach highway speed, you will be boosting all the way, but running on turbo doesn't mean it is not fuel efficient.
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i mean come on la, you buy new car, and drive below 2k rpm only ?

r u serious?

i mean like spend 70k on a new car, of coz you have to fully "ultilise" it, in term of RPMs. brows.gif

otherwise why not just buy perodua Viva? certified fuel efficient car.

so why not tell us your Saga CVT fuel comsumption?

in term of RM0.xx/km?

so easy to compare and contract.

tq.

even 1.6A waja i think is around RM0.20/km for city drive, right? hmm.gif

Added on April 8, 2012, 3:32 pm
QUOTE(Kinitos @ Apr 8 2012, 01:18 PM)
A engine spining at 2,000 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve 205Nm Torque

OR

MIVEc 2.0P engine spinning 4,250 ROUNDs PER MINUTE to achieve MAX 197Nm Torque
which engine need more fuel? Which engine will fly faster INITIALLY?
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hm... did you calculate and drive all the way? hmm.gif

i mean realistic a bit la, you drive, you pump fuel, you pay.[MONEY IS REALISTIC]

then count how many km can run.

isnt it more practical?

i believe driving a car, is not about maintain 2k rpm constantly right?

if traffic light become yellow liao, sure you TEKANNNNNNNNNNNN minyak 1 ma.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 03:26 PM)
i mean come on la, you buy new car, and drive below 2k rpm only ?

r u serious?

i mean like spend 70k on a new car, of coz you have to fully "ultilise" it, in term of RPMs. brows.gif

otherwise why not just buy perodua Viva? certified fuel efficient car.

so why not tell us your Saga CVT fuel comsumption?

in term of RM0.xx/km?

so easy to compare and contract.

tq.

even 1.6A waja i think is around RM0.20/km for city drive, right? hmm.gif

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Well that's your choice, not everyone buy this car to go vroom vroom. You think every person who bought a Civic 2.0 wants to go chase down every car on the road? some just want a comfortable, stable ride.

This car gives you the option of either driving it like a 1.6 or driving it like a 2.0 (At least in urban roads). It's up to you whether you wanna drive it economically or tekan all the way.

And you are comparing the Preve with the Viva, Waddd??

And if you must know, my latest fuel up is 17sens/km.
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has anyone asked before regarding the headlight?

from the TVC it seems like its a H.I.D bulb.

but from what the brochure, it never really mention either is on halogen or hid.
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has anyone asked before regarding the headlight?

from the TVC it seems like its a H.I.D bulb.

but from what the brochure, it never really mention either is on halogen or hid.
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yup, cfe just an old junk with old tech. Mivec, vtec n vvti are really uptodate engine. Thats why its so lame for vw when lancer launch with 4b11 with mivec technology, vw still using outdated ea113 without incorporate variable valve tech where the japs n koreans been using them for centurty(i think :-),he..he..), n recently ea888 has that, but then its too late, the japs already come out with valvematic. Direct injection is old tech, turbo also old. Only vtec, vvti, mivec@valvematic are the uptodate n latest tech :-).

Couple with old easyu 32 bit torque based ecu, where all japs n koreans been using in their cars for century. And using old cvt tech, where others are using torque converter based, dry clutch based, this punch using wet clucth based which is outdated. Same as old getrag manual gearbox, better stick to mitsu who is the maestro creating mivec for engine, so, gearbox must be full of awesomeness too.

Dun worry, prtn wont surpass them. Keep using the updated tech. No need to look at old junk euro 5 engine :-). Its nothing.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 04:42 PM)
yup, cfe just an old junk with old tech. Mivec, vtec n vvti are really uptodate engine. Thats why its so lame for vw when lancer launch with 4b11 with mivec technology, vw still using outdated ea113 without incorporate variable valve tech where the japs n koreans been using them for centurty(i think :-),he..he..), n recently ea888 has that, but then its too late, the japs already come out with valvematic. Direct injection is old tech, turbo also old. Only vtec, vvti, mivec@valvematic are the uptodate n latest tech :-).

Couple with old easyu 32 bit torque based ecu, where all japs n koreans been using in their cars for century. And using old cvt tech, where others are using torque converter based, dry clutch based, this punch using wet clucth based which is outdated. Same as old getrag manual gearbox, better stick to mitsu who is the maestro creating mivec for engine, so, gearbox must be full of awesomeness too.

Dun worry, prtn wont surpass them. Keep using the updated tech. No need to look at old junk euro 5 engine :-). Its nothing.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 04:42 PM)
yup, cfe just an old junk with old tech. Mivec, vtec n vvti are really uptodate engine. Thats why its so lame for vw when lancer launch with 4b11 with mivec technology, vw still using outdated ea113 without incorporate variable valve tech where the japs n koreans been using them for centurty(i think :-),he..he..), n recently ea888 has that, but then its too late, the japs already come out with valvematic. Direct injection is old tech, turbo also old. Only vtec, vvti, mivec@valvematic are the uptodate n latest tech :-).

Couple with old easyu 32 bit torque based ecu, where all japs n koreans been using in their cars for century. And using old cvt tech, where others are using torque converter based, dry clutch based, this punch using wet clucth based which is outdated. Same as old getrag manual gearbox, better stick to mitsu who is the maestro creating mivec for engine, so, gearbox must be full of awesomeness too.

Dun worry, prtn wont surpass them. Keep using the updated tech. No need to look at old junk euro 5 engine :-). Its nothing.
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wow, 70k car needs to fully utilize all rpm, then how about ,merc s class, bmw 7 series, did the owners pedal to metal@ its chauffeur pedal it to metal everytime the boss inside, coz he pay a freaking 700k. :-).

This is cvt, thats why many still dont understand how to drive it by thinking pedal to metal is the best way to achieve speed like 140kmh. While those in 2.0 na manual and conv auto busy pedal to metal to achieve 140kmh in drag, in cfe,just press 3k rpm, u r already there. No pedal to metal, to stress the engine, really comfortable, where others need to bear the metal clunking sound at redline coz they are paying more than 140k, so need to explore all the rpms. By paying 70k which is nearly half of it, so, need only to explore half of rpms available coz if want the all rpms, get the expensive one.

Ops forget, u also have 90k car that u can explore all the rpms. So, no need to pay more.

Added on April 8, 2012, 5:00 pmnot dsz lor. Im nobody. Erm, dont worry,u can explore all rpms in cfe by flicking the pedal. 7 speed to play, then explore.

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 04:56 PM)
wow, 70k car needs to fully utilize all rpm, then how about ,merc s class, bmw 7 series, did the owners pedal to metal@ its chauffeur pedal it to metal everytime the boss inside, coz he pay a freaking 700k. :-).

This is cvt, thats why many still dont understand how to drive it by thinking pedal to metal is the best way to achieve speed like 140kmh. While those in 2.0 na manual  and conv auto busy pedal to metal to achieve 140kmh in drag, in cfe,just press 3k rpm, u r already there. No pedal to metal, to stress the engine, really comfortable, where others need to bear the metal clunking sound at redline coz they are paying more than 140k, so need to explore all the rpms. By paying 70k which is nearly half of it, so, need only to explore half of rpms available coz if want the all rpms, get the expensive one.

Ops forget, u also have 90k car that u can explore all the rpms. So, no need to pay more.
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haha..aiya..depends on individual drivers la..in town who can rev to 5k rpm anyway. but there are some who will. tongue.gif
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inspira stoping distance, i believe its around 43m +-, evo 10 around 36m +-,cannot get the info from informer coz they dont want to compare lor, nanti mitsu marah.

But for me,its good enough already for inspira.
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This car spec too tempting... just place rm500 to SA to order one silver color Turbo version.

TS, please add me to the list...

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haha..aiya..depends on individual drivers la..in town who can rev to 5k rpm anyway. but there are some who will. tongue.gif
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I think, its more to do with malaysian driver mentality. They like to revv all the way hoping that the car will go faster... and they are happy chasing or come very close to the car in front with the mindset to tell you to get lost or move away (aka `cucuking'). Sometimes I don't know what behaviour to associate with this kind of driver .... ego ?, rush ? angry? .

This behaviour quite contrast with UK driver for example. You hardly seeing any car come close to you and everybody seems to take their time and more considerate on the road.

Reading this thread, I can see the mentality to tekannnnn for the sake of to utilize the turbo function or maybe to show off.
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I think, its more to do with malaysian driver mentality. They like to revv all the way hoping that the car will go faster... and they are happy chasing or come very close to the car in front with the mindset to tell you to get lost or move away (aka `cucuking'). Sometimes I don't know what behaviour to associate with this kind of driver .... ego ?, rush ? angry? .

This behaviour quite contrast with UK driver for example. You hardly seeing any car come close to you and everybody seems to take their time and more considerate on the road.

Reading this thread, I can see the mentality to tekannnnn for the sake of to utilize the turbo function or maybe to show off.
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Hahaha this is quite true i agree. I dun understand people alwayz want to cucuk, when drive must keep a distance with car in front yet people is driving like this.

No wonder when accident got cars piled up together. Having experience driving in UK i must said that it was 360 degrees compared to driving in Msia. Peace of mind i must say.

No changing lane without signal. Give way to pedestrian and other drivers. Very polite. Highway almost everyone driving at constant speed 70mph. No cucuking.

Come back to msia terus major headache. mad.gif
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QUOTE(razkal @ Apr 8 2012, 06:26 PM)
Hahaha this is quite true i agree. I dun understand people alwayz want to cucuk, when drive must keep a distance with car in front yet people is driving like this.

No wonder when accident got cars piled up together. Having experience driving in UK i must said that it was 360 degrees compared to driving in Msia. Peace of mind i must say.

No changing lane without signal. Give way to pedestrian and other drivers. Very polite. Highway almost everyone driving at constant speed 70mph. No cucuking.

Come back to msia terus major headache. mad.gif
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this is why we have to cucuk...sometime even honk and beam
cuz those uncle auntie and wimminz dn't even follow rule, dn't drive a constant speed, didn't drive the correct speed at the correct lane
1 car lead the front doing 60KM/H on the 2nd or 3rd lane...how can any car behind him not cucuk him?...follow him @ 60KM/H?... biggrin.gif
i seriously hate those ppl who drives like their father own the whole right side lane

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I made a call to one SA in Penang he said interest rate 2.6%!
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QUOTE(razkal @ Apr 8 2012, 06:26 PM)
Hahaha this is quite true i agree. I dun understand people alwayz want to cucuk, when drive must keep a distance with car in front yet people is driving like this.

No wonder when accident got cars piled up together. Having experience driving in UK i must said that it was 360 degrees compared to driving in Msia. Peace of mind i must say.

No changing lane without signal. Give way to pedestrian and other drivers. Very polite. Highway almost everyone driving at constant speed 70mph. No cucuking.

Come back to msia terus major headache. mad.gif
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see hows european people attitude driving on autobahn in a super car..very respectful to other drivers..not even close to tailgating..

malaysians drivers are lack of discipline..and imagine if that car falls into the hand of malaysian drivers..

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I made a call to one SA in Penang he said interest rate 2.6%!
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Can TS list out the bank and their respective interest rate at front page for future reference. If you can include the SA location and contact will also be useful so next time can compare the best out of them....

I eagerly waiting the pre-bookers reviews... thumbup.gif gonna snatch one later on for myself. maybe 2nd batch tongue.gif
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hey. whats the chepest interest rate now? which bank? please share here la
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Apr 8 2012, 06:56 PM)
see hows european people attitude driving on autobahn in a super car..very respectful to other drivers..not even close to tailgating..

malaysians drivers are lack of discipline..and imagine if that car falls into the hand of malaysian drivers..
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In Malaysia, the car will tailgating you even though you are trying to overtake another car ! They will not wait until you finish overtaking and move back to the inside lane. The considerate rule is simple, when the car in front is giving out signal indicating he/she is going to overtake, just wait a while and keep a distance until the car finish overtaking, then you can revv up again just like in this youtube.

another thing malaysian drivers or asian drivers (bar Japan) are lacking is courtesy to give way and courtesy to say thank you. In UK for example, if you turn the indicator indicating you are going to overtake, the car on the fast lane will slow down and let you overtake first and that car (the car that do overtaking) will respond back to say thank you by so many ways.... some will just raise up the hand on the rear view mirro enough for the back driver to see and some will flick the hazard light twice to show his gratitude. Even the lorry driver do the same (flicking hazard light or playing signal indicator left and right alternately).

In Malaysia, if you turn the indicator to overtake, the car on the fast lane will never allow you go and sometimes you have to wait very very long until you got fed-up and change the lane anyway (albeit dangerously).
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 03:59 PM)
Well that's your choice, not everyone buy this car to go vroom vroom. You think every person who bought a Civic 2.0 wants to go chase down every car on the road? some just want a comfortable, stable ride.

This car gives you the option of either driving it like a 1.6 or driving it like a 2.0 (At least in urban roads). It's up to you whether you wanna drive it economically or tekan all the way.

And you are comparing the Preve with the Viva, Waddd??

And if you must know, my latest fuel up is 17sens/km.
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stable ride =/= 2000rpm okay.

RM0.17/km for your SAGA? shocking.gif

1.3Auto or manual? or 1.6???

then how much you predict for PREVE?

RM0.20/km?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 07:50 PM)
stable ride =/= 2000rpm okay.

RM0.17/km for your SAGA? shocking.gif

1.3Auto or manual? or 1.6???

then how much you predict for PREVE?

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QUOTE(razkal @ Apr 8 2012, 06:26 PM)
Hahaha this is quite true i agree. I dun understand people alwayz want to cucuk, when drive must keep a distance with car in front yet people is driving like this.

No wonder when accident got cars piled up together. Having experience driving in UK i must said that it was 360 degrees compared to driving in Msia. Peace of mind i must say.

No changing lane without signal. Give way to pedestrian and other drivers. Very polite. Highway almost everyone driving at constant speed 70mph. No cucuking.

Come back to msia terus major headache. mad.gif
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Bro, 360 degree is back to square one liao. Kidding kidding tongue.gif

But it's true though. Malaysian drivers seriously lacking. Highway or city, really no difference. The 1Malaysia concept really apply. They all think they're number one laugh.gif

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 8 2012, 06:51 PM)
this is why we have to cucuk...sometime even honk and beam
cuz those uncle auntie and wimminz dn't even follow rule, dn't drive a constant speed, didn't drive the correct speed at the correct lane
1 car lead the front doing 60KM/H on the 2nd or 3rd lane...how can any car behind him not cucuk him?...follow him @ 60KM/H?... biggrin.gif
i seriously hate those ppl who drives like their father own the whole right side lane
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QFT. Majority of drivers I see on the road don't understand the concept of right lane is for overtaking/beyond speed limit. As long as hit speed limit they think they're right dy. Then refuse to let others overtake sweat.gif

Drivers really need to understand the concept of which lane is for what speed. If so stupid cannot understand concept also can use brain mah. Person behind slow, you not on left lane, then ma change lor sweat.gif

QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 8 2012, 07:32 PM)
In Malaysia, the car will tailgating you even though you are trying to overtake another car ! They will not wait until you finish overtaking and move back to the inside lane. The considerate rule is simple, when the car in front is giving out signal indicating he/she is going to overtake, just wait a while and keep a distance until the car finish overtaking, then you can revv up again just like in this youtube.

another thing malaysian drivers or asian drivers (bar Japan) are lacking is courtesy to give way and courtesy to say thank you. In UK for example, if you turn the indicator indicating you are going to overtake, the car on the fast lane will slow down and let you overtake first and that car (the car that do overtaking) will respond back to say thank you by so many ways.... some will just raise up the hand on the rear view mirro enough for the back driver to see and some will flick the hazard light twice to show his gratitude. Even the lorry driver do the same (flicking hazard light or playing signal indicator left and right alternately).

In Malaysia, if you turn the indicator to overtake, the car on the fast lane will never allow you go and sometimes you have to wait very very long until you got fed-up and change the lane anyway (albeit dangerously).
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One trick I use when on the highway wanting to go to the fast lane is to turn my indicator when I see a car in my wing mirror from far away. He will surely speed up. By the time I really want to switch, he'll be ahead dy. Hahaha.

BUT got some really nice drivers on the highway lah. Seen a few times, give way then they actually "said" thank you. My friend and I were both speechless. Like wow.
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TEKKAAANNNNN.

Then ppl wonder why turbo FC so bad  rolleyes.gif
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if CFE comes with Direct injection technology, then it is possible to achieve 7.2L / 100KM, but for the moment it is about 8.2L / 100KM, so not very good in terms of small CC engine.

the THP 1.6 does about 7.2L / 100km, the BMW 2.0 DI engine does about 6.8L/100KM, also the 1.4TSI engine does about 5.5L/ 100km. which is the best in FC for the moment,

all those are DI engine, unlike CFE it is not, plus CFE is only single VVT engine, unlike the toyota Dual VVti, or MiVEC system. Give and take, but you want something like VW FC, handling performance like BMW. specs like 508, and resale value like Toyota, i think cannot find for the moment.

dont think have it, not even the koreans have it.

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In Malaysia, the car will tailgating you even though you are trying to overtake another car ! They will not wait until you finish overtaking and move back to the inside lane. The considerate rule is simple, when the car in front is giving out signal indicating he/she is going to overtake, just wait a while and keep a distance until the car finish overtaking, then you can revv up again just like in this youtube.

another thing malaysian drivers or asian drivers (bar Japan) are lacking is courtesy to give way and courtesy to say thank you. In UK for example, if you turn the indicator indicating you are going to overtake, the car on the fast lane will slow down and let you overtake first and that car (the car that do overtaking) will respond back to say thank you by so many ways.... some will just raise up the hand on the rear view mirro enough for the back driver to see and some will flick the hazard light twice to show his gratitude. Even the lorry driver do the same (flicking hazard light or playing signal indicator left and right alternately).

In Malaysia, if you turn the indicator to overtake, the car on the fast lane will never allow you go and sometimes you have to wait very very long until you got fed-up and change the lane anyway (albeit dangerously).
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next time someone tail gate and flash you, just slow down. then take ur time to accelerate. if you have confidence, press brake suddenly, then accelerate, this will move the person away to hantam ur backside

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One trick I use when on the highway wanting to go to the fast lane is to turn my indicator when I see a car in my wing mirror from far away. He will surely speed up. By the time I really want to switch, he'll be ahead dy. Hahaha.

BUT got some really nice drivers on the highway lah. Seen a few times, give way then they actually "said" thank you. My friend and I were both speechless. Like wow.
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Maybe its me.... hahaha. just kidding.

But I always wave my hand to say thank you and use the hazard light (twice blinking) to say thank you. I'm not sure whether the other car undestand or not what I was doing when blinking the hazard light... hehe
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Whenever i want potong ppl on fast lane, i use my right hand signal light.. i dont flash with highlight

highlight flashing is for tellling people oi there is a speed trap hahah

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 8 2012, 08:43 PM)
next time someone tail gate and flash you, just slow down. then take ur time to accelerate. if you have confidence, press brake suddenly, then accelerate, this will move the person away to hantam ur backside
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doing that just puts you in the same stupidity level as the person tailgating you.
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ya at least you will back him off a little, what u want ppl to do? keep accelerating.. hahaha, that is what we usually do ya.

faster faster. bang, bang all compile in one single lane. then massive traffic jam. Yup, we are malaysians. we can do malaysian things.
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 07:50 PM)
stable ride =/= 2000rpm okay.

RM0.17/km for your SAGA? shocking.gif

1.3Auto or manual? or 1.6???

then how much you predict for PREVE?

RM0.20/km?? hmm.gif
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doh.gif

Why peopel keep insist using RM to calculate FC... use liters lah...

How peopel know you using what Ron95 or 97?

U use liters peopel 10 yrs later come check thread also can use the info no matter what is the current petrol price in the world.

Added on April 8, 2012, 9:47 pm
QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 8 2012, 08:43 PM)


next time someone tail gate and flash you, just slow down. then take ur time to accelerate. if you have confidence, press brake suddenly, then accelerate, this will move the person away to hantam ur backside
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This is when the guy overtake you on the left and slam his brakes. I actually stop my car until stationary at jalan duta before because some roadhogger did this to me nod.gif

Well.. those are the younger days...

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this evening i went to subang..i took NKVE...on the way,i pass by 2 Preve...from the looks,it's nice...but of course both cars using camouflage...intended to record but they were driving around 50-60kmj...i can't wait them for long....it was raining some more....i took subang exit...both preve headed to shah alam area....
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QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 8 2012, 09:02 PM)
Maybe its me.... hahaha. just kidding.

But I always wave my hand to say thank you and use the hazard light (twice blinking) to say thank you. I'm not sure whether the other car undestand or not what I was doing when blinking the hazard light... hehe
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Maybe. Hahaha. Too rare to find liao ppl with courtesy on the road sweat.gif

QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 8 2012, 09:08 PM)
Whenever i want potong ppl on fast lane, i use my right hand signal light.. i dont flash with highlight

highlight flashing is for tellling people oi there is a speed trap hahah
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Flashing is ok if you're going uber fast and you're too far away. I think it's safer. If you're approaching and about 50m then use the indicator then can lah. The driver infront can see.


ANYWAYS, back to the car.

I was told can get the car mid May. Anyone else can say sooner?
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 8 2012, 09:45 PM)
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Why peopel keep insist using RM to calculate FC... use liters lah...

How peopel know you using what Ron95 or 97?

U use liters peopel 10 yrs later come check thread also can use the info no matter what is the current petrol price in the world.

Added on April 8, 2012, 9:47 pm

This is when the guy overtake you on the left and slam his brakes. I actually stop my car until stationary at jalan duta before because some roadhogger did this to me  nod.gif

Well.. those are the younger days...
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can use RM..but at least tell la RON95 or RON97...then we can convert from RM to litres... smile.gif
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I was told can get the car mid May. Anyone else can say sooner?
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Isn't the car pretty much confirmed for this 16th of April? If so, why May?
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can use RM..but at least tell la RON95 or RON97...then we can convert from RM to litres...  smile.gif
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Also useless 5 yrs later when peopel wanna dig up FC post. cause prices would be diff by then
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QUOTE(Sorxe @ Apr 8 2012, 10:15 PM)
Isn't the car pretty much confirmed for this 16th of April? If so, why May?
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16th April is the launching of the car, sayang.

You still have to wait for your turn to get the car. Ini bukan beli pampers kat Tesco.

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 8 2012, 10:17 PM)
Also useless 5 yrs later when peopel wanna dig up FC post. cause prices would be diff by then
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This point has been debated looong time ago at the FC thread... and seems like history is repeating itself again today. sleep.gif

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 8 2012, 10:17 PM)
Also useless 5 yrs later when peopel wanna dig up FC post. cause prices would be diff by then
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aiyo...state these info la...( i dun think i need to write this):

1) how much u fuel up ur tank?
2) market price/litre at the time u fuel up ur tank?
3) type of RON
4) mileage b4 and after or simply put total KM
5) ur speed..dun care whatever speed u want to put...average ka fastest ka...whatever...

then in the future, u can use the data...do i need to teach how to diff current price and future price? come on la...just change the price la...

Added on April 8, 2012, 10:33 pmbut of course..this way...we make others headache...for those who are lazy...

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 8 2012, 10:17 PM)
16th April is the launching of the car, sayang.

You still have to wait for your turn to get the car.

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So should I book now if I want the car? If so, any direction?

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QUOTE(Sorxe @ Apr 8 2012, 10:34 PM)
So should I book now if I want the car? If so, any direction?
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Proton dealership?
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Proton dealership?
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Any of them would do? In this case I will visit one pretty soon.
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Any of them would do? In this case I will visit one pretty soon.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 8 2012, 09:45 PM)
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Why peopel keep insist using RM to calculate FC... use liters lah...

How peopel know you using what Ron95 or 97?

U use liters peopel 10 yrs later come check thread also can use the info no matter what is the current petrol price in the world.

Added on April 8, 2012, 9:47 pm

This is when the guy overtake you on the left and slam his brakes. I actually stop my car until stationary at jalan duta before because some roadhogger did this to me  nod.gif

Well.. those are the younger days...
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if you can afford Ron97, i dun see why you need to care bout the fuel consumption also, not to say 1liter can go how many km. whistling.gif




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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 8 2012, 10:31 PM)
aiyo...state these info la...( i dun think i need to write this):

1) how much u fuel up ur tank?
2) market price/litre at the time u fuel up ur tank?
3) type of RON
4) mileage b4 and after or simply put total KM
5) ur speed..dun care whatever speed u want to put...average ka fastest ka...whatever...

then in the future, u can use the data...do i need to teach how to diff current price and future price? come on la...just change the price la...

Added on April 8, 2012, 10:33 pmbut of course..this way...we make others headache...for those who are lazy...
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actually, what is so hard to calculate in km/l?
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 8 2012, 08:43 PM)
if CFE comes with Direct injection technology, then it is possible to achieve 7.2L / 100KM, but for the moment it is about 8.2L / 100KM, so not very good in terms of small CC engine.

the THP 1.6 does about 7.2L / 100km, the BMW 2.0 DI engine does about 6.8L/100KM, also the 1.4TSI engine does about 5.5L/ 100km. which is the best in FC for the moment,

all those are DI engine, unlike CFE it is not, plus CFE is only single VVT engine, unlike the toyota Dual VVti, or MiVEC system. Give and take, but you want something like VW FC, handling performance like BMW. specs like 508, and resale value like Toyota, i think cannot find for the moment.

dont think have it, not even the koreans have it.

Added on April 8, 2012, 8:45 pm

next time someone tail gate and flash you, just slow down. then take ur time to accelerate. if you have confidence, press brake suddenly, then accelerate, this will move the person away to hantam ur backside
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erm, about thp 6 speed auto in pug 308, mixed driving is 7.9L/100km, for 100% city driving is 11.4L/100km. While cfe preve 8.2L/100km for mix driving. Yup, less than thp auto by 0.3L/100km, if change to km/L, thp auto = 12.7km/L, cfe cvt = 12.2km/L. Meaning cfe fc is more by 0.5km for every liter. Meaning that for 50 liter amount of fuel, thp auto will go more around 25km than cfe cvt @ the thp save u rm3.80 per 50 L. If u used 50L per week, means that u r paying rm15.20 permonth more in fuel in cfe preve.how much monthly commitment if buying thp auto pug?

Oh, forget to mentioned if 50L of pug u can drive around 635km, n cfe preve 610km. If u cover that distance perweek or sometimes less or more. Before asking whether preve can go for 610km for 50L, ask the same question to pug owner thp auto, whether they can reach 635km for 50L mixed driving, not 100 hway.

Just adding a bit on ur statement with diff perspective on fc. Hope u dont get angry with me adding some thought to ur comment. Not disagreement, just add.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 9 2012, 12:47 AM)
erm, about thp 6 speed auto in pug 308, mixed driving is 7.9L/100km, for 100% city driving is 11.4L/100km. While cfe preve 8.2L/100km for mix driving. Yup, less than thp auto by 0.3L/100km, if change to km/L, thp auto = 12.7km/L, cfe cvt = 12.2km/L. Meaning cfe fc is more by 0.5km for every liter. Meaning that for 50 liter amount of fuel, thp auto will go more around 25km than cfe cvt @ the thp save u rm3.80 per 50 L. If u used 50L per week, means that u r paying rm15.20  permonth more in fuel in cfe preve.how much monthly commitment if buying thp auto pug?

Oh, forget to mentioned if 50L of pug u can drive around 635km, n cfe preve 610km. If u cover that distance perweek or sometimes less or more. Before asking whether preve can go for 610km for 50L, ask the same question to pug owner thp auto, whether they can reach 635km for 50L mixed driving, not 100 hway.

Just adding a bit on ur statement with diff perspective on fc. Hope u dont get angry with me adding some thought to ur comment. Not disagreement, just add.
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my girlfriend drives the 308. she fills a regular RM50 petrol (i asked her to do so for easier calculation of FC). would normally get around 300-320km depending on driving condition. all city drive and ron95. should be around 12km/L.

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I have one disappointment with the feature's of this car, no reverse cam even in the premium variant, how come a car like this having all sorts of features like On/Off remote button yet missing out on an important feature like reverse cam!?! shakehead.gif
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I have one disappointment with the feature's of this car, no reverse cam even in the premium variant, how come a car like this having all sorts of features like On/Off remote button yet missing out on an important feature like reverse cam!?!  shakehead.gif
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The 528i doesn't have reverse camera as well. Should I be disappointed or not? hmm.gif

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Reverse cam maybe will be add on accessories for service centre to make $$. Hehe.
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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 8 2012, 07:50 PM)
stable ride =/= 2000rpm okay.

RM0.17/km for your SAGA? shocking.gif

1.3Auto or manual? or 1.6???

then how much you predict for PREVE?

RM0.20/km?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 8 2012, 09:45 PM)
doh.gif

Why peopel keep insist using RM to calculate FC... use liters lah...

How peopel know you using what Ron95 or 97?

U use liters peopel 10 yrs later come check thread also can use the info no matter what is the current petrol price in the world.


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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:38 PM)
actually, what is so hard to calculate in km/l?
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Yea I can give my figures in km/l, l/100km or what not. But ppl ask me in money terms ma, if I don't answer like that ppl say me no respect him how?

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QUOTE(Sorxe @ Apr 9 2012, 12:03 AM)
I have one disappointment with the feature's of this car, no reverse cam even in the premium variant, how come a car like this having all sorts of features like On/Off remote button yet missing out on an important feature like reverse cam!?!  shakehead.gif
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Reverse camera, pasang outside also can ma. I think the price might be around RM200-RM300.
Maybe cheaper. Depend on brand biggrin.gif
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Reverse camera, pasang outside also can ma. I think the price might be around RM200-RM300.
Maybe cheaper. Depend on brand  biggrin.gif
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i dn't understand why does it need a reverse camera?
its not an MPV...its not a large/long car like those merc
its just a sedan
unless your licence is kopi-o
if u want it...install one outside since its got a touchscreen HU..u can linked to it
and get one that has IR function..better at night(this is what exora owner is complaining abt)
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:38 PM)
actually, what is so hard to calculate in km/l?
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nothing hard...what i said is only for those who want to calculate using RM...if u can understand my intention carefully,then good..if not,i can't help la...

Added on April 9, 2012, 3:27 amanyway....RM5=2.631litre...valid as 09/04/2012...ron95...

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 9 2012, 03:25 AM)
nothing hard...what i said is only for those who want to calculate using RM...if u can understand my intention carefully,then good..if not,i can't help la...

Added on April 9, 2012, 3:27 amanyway....RM5=2.631litre...valid as 09/04/2012...ron95...
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the problem is, post election and the price will not be the same. then it'll be confusing. when u buy petrol, the litres are also stated. what is so difficult? blink.gif
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lolz.. you all are too bored liao. while waiting for the car to launch go and argue about the methodology in calculating fuel consumptions doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:52 PM)
my girlfriend drives the 308. she fills a regular RM50 petrol (i asked her to do so for easier calculation of FC). would normally get around 300-320km depending on driving condition. all city drive and ron95. should be around 12km/L.
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thats good, ur gf drive thp 308 auto, fast n furious. Thats around the mixed mode. So, good for u. U can swap car with ur gf sometimes, nice drive in 308 thp,even for auto. Not to mentioned squishy mushy dash.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 11:47 PM)
erm, about thp 6 speed auto in pug 308, mixed driving is 7.9L/100km, for 100% city driving is 11.4L/100km. While cfe preve 8.2L/100km for mix driving. Yup, less than thp auto by 0.3L/100km, if change to km/L, thp auto = 12.7km/L, cfe cvt = 12.2km/L. Meaning cfe fc is more by 0.5km for every liter. Meaning that for 50 liter amount of fuel, thp auto will go more around 25km than cfe cvt @ the thp save u rm3.80 per 50 L. If u used 50L per week, means that u r paying rm15.20  permonth more in fuel in cfe preve.how much monthly commitment if buying thp auto pug?

Oh, forget to mentioned if 50L of pug u can drive around 635km, n cfe preve 610km. If u cover that distance perweek or sometimes less or more. Before asking whether preve can go for 610km for 50L, ask the same question to pug owner thp auto, whether they can reach 635km for 50L mixed driving, not 100 hway.

Just adding a bit on ur statement with diff perspective on fc. Hope u dont get angry with me adding some thought to ur comment. Not disagreement, just add.
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with this reply, it is even stronger for me to get a Preve. at least i dont pay so much for the car if compare to THP, but THP is not the best in the bunch, in fact TSI and Ecoboost has better efficiency and power per ton.
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dont rely on paper specs.. i believe the full tank for cfe in real world would be around 500km for 50l. minus the reserved fuel about 8l, full tank drive will only get you around 450km.
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i believe it depends on how you drive. my old 12 years waja gets about 12.0 km/ l which is about 8.5L/ 100KM, plus it is a auto

that was why i was wondering how come CFE cannot do better?

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 9 2012, 08:35 AM)
i believe it depends on how you drive. my old 12 years waja gets about 12.0 km/ l which is about 8.5L/ 100KM, plus it is a auto

that was why i was wondering how come CFE cannot do better?
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Because your Waja is not Campro tongue.gif

You figures are quite good. I use to drive a 2001 Waja auto, and I could manage 9-10 km/l at best.

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I agree. your driving style is a factor to the fuel consumption.

Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, preve has two types of fuel consumption meter reading... one is average (the l/km is updated over several interval) and another one is real time (the l/km is updated realtime), so.. come 16th April, test drive and check the FC on various driving condition.
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while fc depend on right foot, the correct way of driving also influence ur fc. If u drive cvt like normal auto
, maybe u end up bad fc. If u take advantage of cvt characteristics, then, maybe u end up for better fc.

Like 4g18 in waja, the torque max at 2700rpm, town driving has better torque than campro engine,while hitting the dark spot on campro,really causing it having bad fc.

Not saying cfe @ iafm+ the best, but combo with cvt n 32bit torque based ecu, it is currently the best for prtn interm of balancing out power n fc.

Its main focus is more smooth power delivery rather than outright power. Efficient driving not only save fc, but give u the right power. In mixed mode, iafm+ 1.3 in saga may give u around 7.6+-L/100km n iafm+ 1.6 just around 8+-L/100km, depend on how u driving it. While preve being heavier, iafm+ just returning nearly the same as cfe in mix mode, but not really that much compare to flx se. That is the wonder of cvt, its tcu adapts itself according to weight, meaning the ratio, that being advantage of any cvt. Thats why the century sprint is not much differ that flx se.

If using old 4at,then it will be bad. Thats why in prius or even insight, they have eco mode driving aid, so that u can achieve better fc by controlling ur throttle. Its a good add if prtn add in its line coz its aid us to be coutious in driving,while saving fc n save the environment too.
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May I know where does the wiper/turning signal located in Preve ?
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May I know where does the wiper/turning signal located in Preve ?
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turning signal/lamp = left
wiper = right
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turning signal/lamp = left
wiper = right
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Thanks.
hmm..I still prefer the convensional way...too bad even 308 operate this way
dunno what is the advantages ?
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Thanks.
hmm..I still prefer the convensional way...too bad even 308 operate this way
dunno what is the advantages ?
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if you're already driving conti or previous proton cars it should be no problem, it's the matter of getting used to it.
since my first and only car already operated that way, so it is the conventional way for me but whenever i drive my sister's dugong i rarely made mistake switching the wiper/signal.
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started with waja i think. last time they say because so its easy to make it left hand drive.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 9 2012, 10:41 AM)
while fc depend on right foot, the correct way of driving also influence ur fc. If u drive cvt like normal auto
, maybe u end up bad fc. If u take advantage of cvt characteristics, then, maybe u end up for better fc.

Like 4g18 in waja, the torque max at 2700rpm, town driving has better torque than campro engine,while hitting the dark spot on campro,really causing it having bad fc.

Not saying cfe @ iafm+ the best, but combo with cvt n 32bit torque based ecu, it is currently the best for prtn interm of balancing out power n fc.

Its main focus is more smooth power delivery rather than outright power. Efficient driving not only save fc, but give u the right power. In mixed mode, iafm+ 1.3 in saga may give u around 7.6+-L/100km n iafm+ 1.6 just around 8+-L/100km, depend on how u driving it. While preve being heavier, iafm+ just returning nearly the same as cfe in mix mode, but not really that much compare to flx se. That is the wonder of cvt, its tcu adapts itself according to weight, meaning the ratio, that being advantage of any cvt. Thats why the century sprint is not much differ that flx se.

If using old 4at,then it will be bad. Thats why in prius or even insight, they have eco mode driving aid, so that u can achieve better fc by controlling ur throttle. Its a good add if prtn add in its line coz its aid us to be coutious in driving,while saving fc n save the environment too.
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No la, if you buy turbo must floor it wan. CVT run at 2k RPM? ptui. Campro CFE good FC? pfftt. rolleyes.gif
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while fc depend on right foot, the correct way of driving also influence ur fc. If u drive cvt like normal auto
, maybe u end up bad fc. If u take advantage of cvt characteristics, then, maybe u end up for better fc.

Like 4g18 in waja, the torque max at 2700rpm, town driving has better torque than campro engine,while hitting the dark spot on campro,really causing it having bad fc.

Not saying cfe @ iafm+ the best, but combo with cvt n 32bit torque based ecu, it is currently the best for prtn interm of balancing out power n fc.

Its main focus is more smooth power delivery rather than outright power. Efficient driving not only save fc, but give u the right power. In mixed mode, iafm+ 1.3 in saga may give u around 7.6+-L/100km n iafm+ 1.6 just around 8+-L/100km, depend on how u driving it. While preve being heavier, iafm+ just returning nearly the same as cfe in mix mode, but not really that much compare to flx se. That is the wonder of cvt, its tcu adapts itself according to weight, meaning the ratio, that being advantage of any cvt. Thats why the century sprint is not much differ that flx se.

If using old 4at,then it will be bad. Thats why in prius or even insight, they have eco mode driving aid, so that u can achieve better fc by controlling ur throttle. Its a good add if prtn add in its line coz its aid us to be coutious in driving,while saving fc n save the environment too.
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Sure it depends on right foot and smooth driving. Having said that, I still expect Preve CFE to do a little better.
For comparison, I'm driving a PE B-line Auto. 300km high way (110km/h avg measured on GPS, 118km/h using car meter) + 170km small town driving (no jam). It costs me 36.315 litres of fuels. That's 7.726l/100km.
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turbocharged......hmmmmm....a bit skeptical though with new stuff from Proton on the reliability part.

It is no doubt a very competitive spec offered. FC perhaps you can talk more once someone own the car.....now is just guessing.....too subjective subject on the FC. smile.gif
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Just ask Exora bold people lo..and roughly can estimate the FC
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next week, only, waiting waiting.... anyway are the specs finalized for CFE?

quality quality. only can be told once the car is out. but looking at the pictures the fit and finish i think it is still very proton.

anyway at that price point, nothing much can be compared.

Probably the closest competitor is Forte. Vios and City, out already.


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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 9 2012, 06:18 AM)
the problem is, post election and the price will not be the same. then it'll be confusing. when u buy petrol, the litres are also stated. what is so difficult? blink.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Apr 9 2012, 06:18 AM)
the problem is, post election and the price will not be the same. then it'll be confusing. when u buy petrol, the litres are also stated. what is so difficult? blink.gif
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read post no 305 and 322 carefully...
those guide is meant for those who want to calculate in RM...if they dun remember in litre...like i said..calculate in RM will make it hard for others...

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lolz.. you all are too bored liao. while waiting for the car to launch go and argue about the methodology in calculating fuel consumptions doh.gif
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only toyota and honda sales ppl calculate in RM. Others follow as well,

i always ask Km/L , tomorrow petrol price go up to 3.50 / L it is different,. next month drop to 2.20/L it is different again, Toyota and honda sure kena screw kau kau.




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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 9 2012, 02:03 PM)
only toyota and honda sales ppl calculate in RM. Others follow as well,

i always ask Km/L , tomorrow petrol price go up to 3.50 / L it is different,. next month drop to 2.20/L it is different again, Toyota and honda sure kena screw kau kau.
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i'm not 1 of those u mentioned...what i intent is only to help@guide how to calculate in RM so that we can convert it...that is all....personally,i do hate to convert from RM to litre...haha....
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the car design and car spec looks good .
Just wondering how is the performance and realibiliaty of the car after few month driving .

trust there is not issue of power window will arise.
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I have been driving my waja for 11 yrs it´s a great car. One of the problems is the smell insulation is not good, outside smell can get into the car cabin. Not sure how preve performs or exora for that matter since exora bold is the latest model from proton.
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hi all,
what is the actual price ah..
see from here is 72k++
and SA say 75k++
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Tentative price 75k, leaked price 72k.
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ahhh... feels like wanna sell my FL n get this preve... the specs is too thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2012, 12:13 PM)
No la, if you buy turbo must floor it wan. CVT run at 2k RPM? ptui. Campro CFE good FC? pfftt. rolleyes.gif
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ahhh... feels like wanna sell my FL n get this preve... the specs is too  thumbup.gif
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Just do it man, DO IT!! thumbup.gif

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this preve really tempting..
wait for the official release.
test the car gao gao.. and make decision.
hope it can poison me .....
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Just do it man, DO IT!!  thumbup.gif

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grow bigger balls and use larger fonts lah.
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grow bigger balls and use larger fonts lah.
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Its called fine print for a reason whistling.gif
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Its called fine print for a reason  whistling.gif
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ahaahaha.. u guys aa.. funny la... but i have no balls la... i think have to pay back bank than only can buy preve..haha
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my dad say me and him 50/50 buy proton preve under my name smile.gif but will be family car, anyhow the car will be parked at home so anyone can use wont be a problem la, just got 1 extra car at home smile.gif but dunno should directly book 1, heard from SA at my hometown so far no ppl book the car, cos ppl at here very conservative one, they only buy the car when they are able to look at the car.. seldom go internet look for more info, mostly they use internet for ppstream only..
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Overall, I am impress with its interior and exterior looks..

Just wait and see.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(LLH @ Apr 9 2012, 02:17 PM)
I have been driving my waja for 11 yrs it´s a great car. One of the problems is the smell insulation is not good, outside smell can get into the car cabin. Not sure how preve performs or exora for that matter since exora bold is the latest model from proton.
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first batch of waja rite? u lack aircon air filter boss... tongue.gif
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if you can afford Ron97, i dun see why you need to care bout the fuel consumption also, not to say 1liter can go how many km. whistling.gif
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Wrong perception of "Rich people dont care how much they spend". Infact wealthy people care MORE on what they spend, how did u think they get rich in the first place?
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first batch of waja rite? u lack aircon air filter boss... tongue.gif
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I see, means there was no aircond filter in the 1st batch waja? Subsequent batch was ok?
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I see, means there was no aircond filter in the 1st batch waja? Subsequent batch was ok?
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i duno whether it fix the problem or not la.. but i know later batch got aircon filter already.
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QUOTE(LLH @ Apr 9 2012, 02:17 PM)
I have been driving my waja for 11 yrs it´s a great car. One of the problems is the smell insulation is not good, outside smell can get into the car cabin. Not sure how preve performs or exora for that matter since exora bold is the latest model from proton.
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When u go to aircond shop for full aircond servicing..ask them to seal off permanently the fresh air intake hole. This will prevent the outside air from penetrating into the cabin.

I've complaint about this before when i did the full aircond servicing on my previous Waja & the aircond 'taiko' at that shop suggest that they can seal the fresh air intake hole if i want it. The result is great..no more outside smell..no more outside smoke. But the downside are..u might easily feel sleepy during long driving (especially when full with passengers) due to lack of oxygen rolleyes.gif (but u can wind down your window from time to time to get fresh air) & no more fresh air circulation mode (though u select the fresh air circulation mode)..up to u to decide..but i personally done that before thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 9 2012, 04:55 PM)
When u go to aircond shop for full aircond servicing..ask them to seal off permanently the fresh air intake hole. This will prevent the outside air from penetrating into the cabin.

I've complaint about this before when i did the full aircond servicing on my previous Waja & the aircond 'taiko' at that shop suggest that they can seal the fresh air intake hole if i want it. The result is great..no more outside smell. But the downside are..u might easily feel sleepy during long driving (especially when full with passengers) due to lack of oxygen  rolleyes.gif (but u can wind down your window from time to time to get fresh air) & no more fresh air circulation mode (though u select the fresh air circulation mode)..up to u to decide..but i personally done that before  thumbup.gif
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I can vouch for that, did the same exact thing for my wira a month ago. Now, no more smelly fumes from outside.
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Can a good filter do the job? Because i think to completely seal off is not good
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 9 2012, 04:02 PM)
my dad say me and him 50/50 buy proton preve under my name smile.gif but will be family car, anyhow the car will be parked at home so anyone can use wont be a problem la, just got 1 extra car at home smile.gif but dunno should directly book 1, heard from SA at my hometown so far no ppl book the car, cos ppl at here very conservative one, they only buy the car when they are able to look at the car.. seldom go internet look for more info, mostly they use internet for ppstream only..
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ya...most old man will wait till car launch and go see it only they book
unless its just a saga that is
this is a 70k+ car...they usually will look at it 1st
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QUOTE(LLH @ Apr 9 2012, 05:08 PM)
Can a good filter do the job? Because i think to completely seal off is not good
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If can use active carbon air filter, that might do the trick. As in my Forte (got active carbon cabin air filter), though i can still smell the smoke or smelly air from outside, but it is at a very minimal & acceptable level...

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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 9 2012, 04:55 PM)
When u go to aircond shop for full aircond servicing..ask them to seal off permanently the fresh air intake hole. This will prevent the outside air from penetrating into the cabin.

I've complaint about this before when i did the full aircond servicing on my previous Waja & the aircond 'taiko' at that shop suggest that they can seal the fresh air intake hole if i want it. The result is great..no more outside smell..no more outside smoke. But the downside are..u might easily feel sleepy during long driving (especially when full with passengers) due to lack of oxygen  rolleyes.gif (but u can wind down your window from time to time to get fresh air) & no more fresh air circulation mode (though u select the fresh air circulation mode)..up to u to decide..but i personally done that before  thumbup.gif
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LOL.. dun play2. we need oxygen to breath wei.. laugh.gif
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Hahaha..yalor..that's why i open my car windows for a while when i felt sleepy..a sign of oxygen shortage.. sweat.gif I opt to seal it becoz i cannot tahan the thick smoke from vehicles at the front especially from buses, lorries & 2-stroke motorcycle that penetrate into the cabin (working @ KL that time)..this situation is not good to our health as well..

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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 9 2012, 05:26 PM)
Hahaha..yalor..that's why i open my car windows for a while when i felt sleepy..a sign of oxygen shortage.. sweat.gif  I opt to seal it becoz i cannot tahan the thick smoke from vehicles at the front especially from buses, lorries & 2-stroke motorcycle that penetrate into the cabin (working @ KL that time)..this situation is not good to our health as well..
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u already book rite? so one of ur mission is to find out for ppl like me whether got aircon filter or not in the preve tongue.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 9 2012, 05:33 PM)
u already book rite? so one of ur mission is to find out for ppl like me whether got aircon filter or not in the preve tongue.gif
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IIRC, someone mentioned got filter in aircon...
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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 9 2012, 05:26 PM)
Hahaha..yalor..that's why i open my car windows for a while when i felt sleepy..a sign of oxygen shortage.. sweat.gif  I opt to seal it becoz i cannot tahan the thick smoke from vehicles at the front especially from buses, lorries & 2-stroke motorcycle that penetrate into the cabin (working @ KL that time)..this situation is not good to our health as well..
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I guess the lacking of oxygen is better than the smoke from outside?
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a good air filtration is a plus, especially for those drive whole day
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 9 2012, 04:18 PM)
Wrong perception of "Rich people dont care how much they spend". Infact wealthy people care MORE on what they spend, how did u think they get rich in the first place?
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QFT.

Those "rich people" that you see spending money like flowing water most likely are spending someone else's money, eg. their parent's.

QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 9 2012, 05:38 PM)
IIRC, someone mentioned got filter in aircon...
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Wait, nowadays still got new cars that don't have aircon filter?
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dares: you 3 month review on saga flx don't sound good le. doesn't really instill confidence in preve. you mention they tweak the suspension harder in favor of better handling at the expense of comfort, then something about the cvt mounting, rear brake drum that takes several weeks to rectify and the usual quality issue like rattling... doh.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 9 2012, 05:33 PM)
u already book rite? so one of ur mission is to find out for ppl like me whether got aircon filter or not in the preve tongue.gif
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As a globar car, i believe it surely got..hopefully. Just not sure whether it is a normal aircond filter or an active carbon filter. How i wish the aircond also come with the plasmacuster (ionizer)..hehe..too demanding perhaps
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QUOTE(izputra @ Apr 9 2012, 07:59 PM)
As a globar car, i believe it surely got..hopefully. Just not sure whether it is a normal aircond filter or an active carbon filter. How i wish the aircond also come with the plasmacuster (ionizer)..hehe..too demanding perhaps
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soon to be global car, mind you.

right now its just a local car tongue.gif msian will be their beta tester before launching globally. only then it becomes a global car laugh.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 9 2012, 05:40 PM)
I guess the lacking of oxygen is better than the smoke from outside?
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In a short day to day town driving, oxygen lacking is not an issue i believe & i can always open my car windows for a while (when the outside air is clear enough) when needed wink.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 9 2012, 07:57 PM)
dares: you 3 month review on saga flx don't sound good le. doesn't really instill confidence in preve. you mention they tweak the suspension harder in favor of better handling at the expense of comfort, then something about the cvt mounting, rear brake drum that takes several weeks to rectify and the usual quality issue like rattling... doh.gif
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It is what it is. blush.gif

Don't get me wrong though, it can be a fun car to drive with the S4PH + CVT combo, and without the burden of RM1k/month installment at the back of your head when you drive it. It is still, IMO, the best spec car sub RM50k.

That being said, it is again done in by poor QC. None of them affect the driveability of the car, it just annoys the hell outta me. That's why I am still waiting to see if there are any improvements on Preve in this aspect.

Yea, the ride is pretty harsh for a family car, but I have gotten used to it.
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2012, 07:47 PM)
QFT.

Those "rich people" that you see spending money like flowing water most likely are spending someone else's money, eg. their parent's.
Wait, nowadays still got new cars that don't have aircon filter?
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Coincidently viva, myvi, inspira, honda civic, and Alza ALL WHITE was parking same roll at parking lot..

The best white goes to Civic.
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wow so many ppl taking silver, should i take blue lagoon? haha.. scare the color very weird.. why they no special color one..
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wow so many ppl taking silver, should i take blue lagoon? haha.. scare the color very weird.. why they no special color one..
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wow so many ppl taking silver, should i take blue lagoon? haha.. scare the color very weird.. why they no special color one..
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Just buy whatever color then wrap it in something else thumbup.gif
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the link from the star at front page is outdated liao.. this is a newer preview from them:

http://star-motoring.com/Previews/2012/Pro...to-impress.aspx
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pink >< i aint no hello kitty fans lolz.. remind me that my faculty dean drive pink Mira to uni lolz.. dont like wrapping ah.. unless somebody wrap it and looks nice smile.gif but i like something special, like myvi se got yellow color, so special.. preve only blue lagoon special but i dont really like it.. dunno the red nice or not, if the color same like lancer red, then can consider smile.gif
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 10 2012, 12:43 AM)
pink >< i aint no hello kitty fans lolz.. remind me that my faculty dean drive pink Mira to uni lolz.. dont like wrapping ah.. unless somebody wrap it and looks nice smile.gif but i like something special, like myvi se got yellow color, so special.. preve only blue lagoon special but i dont really like it.. dunno the red nice or not, if the color same like lancer red, then can consider smile.gif
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I think red color on Preve is the same color that had been used on Saga FLX.
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I think red color on Preve is the same color that had been used on Saga FLX.
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When u go to aircond shop for full aircond servicing..ask them to seal off permanently the fresh air intake hole. This will prevent the outside air from penetrating into the cabin.

I've complaint about this before when i did the full aircond servicing on my previous Waja & the aircond 'taiko' at that shop suggest that they can seal the fresh air intake hole if i want it. The result is great..no more outside smell..no more outside smoke. But the downside are..u might easily feel sleepy during long driving (especially when full with passengers) due to lack of oxygen  rolleyes.gif (but u can wind down your window from time to time to get fresh air) & no more fresh air circulation mode (though u select the fresh air circulation mode)..up to u to decide..but i personally done that before  thumbup.gif
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poor in door air quality.

poor circulation.

no refresh air.

recycle exhausted air.

in the end, sick building syndrome
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btw, is it the interest rate for bank is same throughout the country? Because at my hometown in east msia, SA quote me 3.1% zzz while i saw u ppl getting 2.8%.. scare kena con money..

Added on April 10, 2012, 8:49 amanother i saw an article is that they say the CVT rev limit is 4k, but why HP specs written 138hp at 5k rpm?

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btw, is it the interest rate for bank is same throughout the country? Because at my hometown in east msia, SA quote me 3.1% zzz while i saw u ppl getting 2.8%.. scare kena con money..

Added on April 10, 2012, 8:49 amanother i saw an article is that they say the CVT rev limit is 4k, but why HP specs written 138hp at 5k rpm?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 10 2012, 08:31 AM)
Added on April 10, 2012, 8:49 amanother i saw an article is that they say the CVT rev limit is 4k, but why HP specs written 138hp at 5k rpm?
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http://www.malaysia-motoring-news.com/2012...etails.html?m=1

here.. there say CVT limit is 4k..
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hmm nothing new these few days... wait o wait...
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My Sa just called me inform my loan interest will be 3.03% level since my loan amount only 35k in 4 yrs... look like interest rate will be affected by tenure and loan amount.

also; first batch people will be getting their car by end of Apr 12.

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Apr 10 2012, 07:01 AM)
poor in door air quality.

poor circulation.

no refresh air.

recycle exhausted air.

in the end, sick building syndrome
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Sick car syndrome.. rolleyes.gif

But i believe, this is not an issue for a short driving. Circulating smoky outdoor air is even worst for me...
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http://www.malaysia-motoring-news.com/2012...etails.html?m=1

here.. there say CVT limit is 4k..
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where got CVT limit so low. should be 6k.
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QUOTE(fit @ Apr 10 2012, 09:59 AM)
My Sa just called me inform my loan interest will be 3.03% level since my loan amount only 35k in 4 yrs... look like interest rate will be affected by tenure and loan amount.

also; first batch people will be getting their car by end of Apr 12.
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hopefully is a typo, 4k rev limit is stupid man lol.. so cannot direct get car on 16th april?
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QUOTE(fit @ Apr 10 2012, 09:59 AM)
My Sa just called me inform my loan interest will be 3.03% level since my loan amount only 35k in 4 yrs... look like interest rate will be affected by tenure and loan amount.

also; first batch people will be getting their car by end of Apr 12.
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Proton: Syed Zainal resigns

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Proton Holdings Bhd MD Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir has resigned, raising
concerns over the future of the national car maker which was recently taken over by
conglomerate DRB-Hicom Bhd. His departure, which could presage resignation from other senior
management staff in the company in coming weeks, is due to differences with the new owners
over Proton’s future direction, close associates of the Proton chief and industry executive said.
(Financial Daily)


Thread Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2300743

So will Preve QC go down again? This is disappointing man . He did a very good job in Proton

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if this is true, the car not even launch yet, and DSZ will not be in that event.

in fact we see najib and drb hicom new line up take the credit..

Global car is his idea... really sad.
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if this is true, the car not even launch yet, and DSZ will not be in that event.

in fact we see najib and drb hicom new line up take the credit..

Global car is his idea...  really sad.
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Here's Paultan News, I guess it's confirmed that he did resigned

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This one is just in. A report from The Edge suggests that Proton’s managing director, Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin, has tendered his resignation from the national automaker. Sources within the company say that his bow out has apparently been brought about by differences with the future owners of the company, DRB-Hicom, over the change in Proton’s future direction.
The report adds that according to the sources, senior management personnel may follow suit with a flurry of resignations in the coming weeks in light of Syed Zainal’s departure. Senior politicians and government officials have been unsuccessful in persuading Syed Zainal to reconsider his decision, they said.
The resignation is news to many at the national automaker, even with corporate comms, according to the report; meanwhile, a top management source in Proton also said that he is not aware of the resignation. If the news is true, then the resignation and those to potentially follow suit might create a massive power void within the company.
We’ve been informed by Proton that an official statement is being prepared. More news to follow later in the day.


http://paultan.org/2012/04/10/breaking-dat...abidin-resigns/
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Game over for Proton?

Preve sinks before it can swim? hmm.gif
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Proton will be a manufacturer of VW and Preve will be the last locally designed and made car?
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Game over for Proton?

Preve sinks before it can swim? hmm.gif
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now i have to say, 1st batch of preve should be better laugh.gif
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Game over for Proton?

Preve sinks before it can swim? hmm.gif
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First batch of Preve will be good, 2nd batch will be??????
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Apr 10 2012, 10:54 AM)
now i have to say, 1st batch of preve should be better  laugh.gif
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DSZ gone, if mahaleel bak...

You're probably right sweat.gif sweat.gif

Added on April 10, 2012, 11:04 am
QUOTE(jetpacker @ Apr 10 2012, 11:02 AM)
shit lor like tat..dsz aka mat79 resign..where got confident buy preve
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DSZ disillusioned by hatebois on the Preve thread, wanna go home and sulk.

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Here's Paultan News, I guess it's confirmed that he did resigned
http://paultan.org/2012/04/10/breaking-dat...abidin-resigns/
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this news actually adds up the previous news of Dr. Wolfgang Karl Epple, Director of Quality which also tendered his resignation on march 2012. His been with proton for 3 years. He used to work for BMW last time.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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So anyone wish to buy preve have to act fast lo? If not later new chairman come and sad will cut airbags because preve so tough d tongue.gif
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75k-35k=40k right..
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Sad news about DSZ. It make me to think that I should wait to see the direction of Proton before buy a Proton car.

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Sad news about DSZ. It make me to think that I should wait to see the direction of Proton before buy a Proton car.
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scare proton close down le drb hicom take over, later they no more service proton car how..
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Bro mat, waiting for comments from you
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DSZ as a managing director for Proton is still there in the official website, gotta check out their investor announcement.

http://corporate.proton.com/About/Corporat...-Directors.aspx

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DSZ as a managing director for Proton is still there in the official website, gotta check out their investor announcement.
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He will still be the managing director until Mid-Year. Therefore, he would still be attending the launch of Preve
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Now jst have to see if DRB will improve proton quality and just lower them down in search of going back to black financially
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but DRB-hicom is mahathir son company.. and he seems capable with all the kencana, mmc company running..
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but DRB-hicom is mahathir son company.. and he seems capable with all the kencana, mmc company running..
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hmm, not sure but i was working with a kencana client at their fab yard, they seems to have lots of project running over there.. but i dont know inside whether the company is doing well or not la.. i am not pro in this stuff..

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Anyone here cancel the booking?
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I''ll probably buy Inspira or Forte.. Something wrong inside proton..
At least inspira jsut copy cat product might be minimal problem


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fast fast download the ads, i will have to delete it because copyright claimed by Chilli Pepper Films.

I think proton preve ads are shoot by them wink.gif
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QUOTE(fit @ Apr 10 2012, 09:59 AM)
My Sa just called me inform my loan interest will be 3.03% level since my loan amount only 35k in 4 yrs... look like interest rate will be affected by tenure and loan amount.

also; first batch people will be getting their car by end of Apr 12.
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End of April? That's better than I thought! biggrin.gif Your interest damn high ler. Must be the short duration and low amount sweat.gif

QUOTE(Area51SE @ Apr 10 2012, 10:41 AM)
Yes got News

Proton: Syed Zainal resigns
Thread Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2300743

So will Preve QC go down again?  This is disappointing man . He did a very good job in Proton
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Uh oh. I hope the first batch won't be affected. Logically, it shouldn't - since everything should be done already. Boy do I hope it won't be. Too bad for those second batch hopers. I have very little faith left laugh.gif

QUOTE(FenomX @ Apr 10 2012, 12:26 PM)
fast fast download the ads, i will have to delete it because copyright claimed by Chilli Pepper Films.

I think proton preve ads are shoot by them wink.gif
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Which adds? The youtube add?
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Below is a media statement from Proton Holdings regarding the resignation of Proton's Group Managing Director Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir.

We refer to the news report in The Edge Financial Daily dated 10 April 2012 on the resignation of Proton’s Group Managing Director, Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir. Proton is not aware of the source of this speculation. Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal is still holding the position of the Group Managing Director of Proton, and his services are still required in the company.

The post-acquisition exercise is still proceeding smoothly and upon the completion of the same, Proton is expected to have a strong synergy of current and new management team members that will provide Proton with the necessary impetus to lead the company in its aspiration to become a globally successful automotive player.
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End of April, I hope it's really true biggrin.gif
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Good to hear that, first batch QC is probably better than the 2nd batch biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Apr 10 2012, 01:55 PM)
Good to hear that, first batch QC is probably better than the 2nd batch biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
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Hopefully (cross fingers)..hehe
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QUOTE(mr_boonez @ Apr 10 2012, 01:54 PM)
source : CBT.com.my

Below is a media statement from Proton Holdings regarding the resignation of Proton's Group Managing Director Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir.

We refer to the news report in The Edge Financial Daily dated 10 April 2012 on the resignation of Proton’s Group Managing Director, Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir. Proton is not aware of the source of this speculation. Dato’ Sri Haji Syed Zainal is still holding the position of the Group Managing Director of Proton, and his services are still required in the company.

The post-acquisition exercise is still proceeding smoothly and upon the completion of the same, Proton is expected to have a strong synergy of current and new management team members that will provide Proton with the necessary impetus to lead the company in its aspiration to become a globally successful automotive player.
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well, who come out with the dsz resign troll rclxub.gif

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they are not denying also. i tink its true on d resignation but damage control goin on.
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yup... they not denying...

http://paultan.org/2012/04/10/official-pro...ls-resignation/
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yup... and tony F. facebook post about it also

IIRC, i read that 2 of them will rope into board of directors?
hmm anyway, just hope Preve gonna be global car with world class quality

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yup... and tony F. facebook post about it also

IIRC, i read that 2 of them will rope into board of directors?
hmm anyway, just hope Preve gonna be global car with world class quality
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was he forced to go ? or he really resign because of politics? directions? really sad, so here we respect the man instead of the company.
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was he forced to go ? or he really resign because of politics? directions? really sad, so here we respect the man instead of the company.
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the thing is who? naza?
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if he joins naza, wah cheaper KIA and better quality KIA...dream on

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I will have doubt in proton quality in the future.......
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Not surprise. Consider that now DRB is the major share holder. Old must go to make way for new.
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My SA say i'll be getting the car end of april, n the interest rate tentatively is 2.98% HLB for loan 35k n 5 years, for PBB interest rate will be 3.03%
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My SA say i'll be getting the car end of april, n the interest rate tentatively is 2.98% HLB for loan 35k n 5 years, for PBB interest rate will be 3.03%
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Yup, the interest rate ranges from 2.8 to 3 % so far depends on tenur and loan amount.
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if the news is true, do you think, DRB-Hicom COO Datuk Lukman Ibrahim fill the place will be good, no?
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Lukman Ibrahim has same beginnings as DSZ, he is from Perodua as well.
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Lukman Ibrahim has same beginnings as DSZ, he is from Perodua as well.
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if he can follow DSZ footstep, Proton should not have any problem...
worry Preve later price hike up haha...because it is too cheap for DRB to make profit
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Not sure, I just hope future Proton product planning will not change too much.
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They didn't deny it also. Therefore I think they are just trying to control share prices that's all. I won't be surprise when it comes to June, Proton announce DSZ will be leaving them lol
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Anyone successful in trying for 100% loan yet?? If so, what sort of rates are offered??
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Proton only?? Not perodua or naza??
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the interiors: i daresay looks somewhat better than my inspira lol

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post Apr 10 2012, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(FookChai @ Apr 10 2012, 08:10 PM)
Because of proton we have to buy expensive tax for cars
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Dah berapa lama tak windows update mindset ni?
Ppl already at windows7 u still at xp
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QUOTE(hyunckelsyah @ Apr 10 2012, 10:19 PM)
the interiors: i daresay looks somewhat better than my inspira lol

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SOOOO MUCH FAUX WOOD, MY EYES, MY EYES!

*pokes eyes out*

ARGHHHHH!
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post Apr 11 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 11 2012, 12:07 AM)
SOOOO MUCH FAUX WOOD, MY EYES, MY EYES!

*pokes eyes out*

ARGHHHHH!
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What's wrong with the wood? It looks nice to me smile.gif
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What's wrong with the wood? It looks nice to me smile.gif
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Me too. But wonder how it'll look like in real life. No more leaked photos? Too excited already biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2012, 12:44 AM

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some ppl dont like plastic wood, but heck, even camry also got those kind of things inside biggrin.gif but it can degrade, maybe after 5-7 years la lol.. still can decide wat color >< i think i am the first person to book this car in my hometown lol.. if like tat means i can get the car on launching? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(A2Z2U @ Apr 11 2012, 12:31 AM)
What's wrong with the wood? It looks nice to me smile.gif
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Yea i don't mind wood in car. It can look good if kena caranya.
But if tak kena, it can spoil whole car interior design.
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post Apr 11 2012, 01:12 AM

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The aircond vents are like the ones in BMW. Dr Wolfgang's idea? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Apr 11 2012, 12:48 AM)
Yea i don't mind wood in car. It can look good if kena caranya.
But if tak kena, it can spoil whole car interior design.
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THIS.

I have Potong's faux wood in my car. Sure it's a boring interior without any trim, but now it's totally...

...

... unker-looking.

Can't wait until payday. Need to wrap it in brushed metal of some sort quickly. YMMV though, it's hideous to me but some of you might like it.
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post Apr 11 2012, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 11 2012, 01:12 AM)
The aircond vents are like the ones in BMW. Dr Wolfgang's idea? biggrin.gif
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so that malaysia no need complain proton design suck mah
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post Apr 11 2012, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Apr 11 2012, 03:22 AM)
so that malaysia no need complain proton design suck mah
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I actually prefer better quality.
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post Apr 11 2012, 07:58 AM

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The real car shd be arrived showroom anytime...

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post Apr 11 2012, 08:02 AM

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post Apr 11 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(FookChai @ Apr 10 2012, 08:10 PM)
Because of proton we have to buy expensive tax for cars
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How about if u apply for singapore citizen,

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post Apr 11 2012, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(FookChai @ Apr 10 2012, 08:10 PM)
Because of proton we have to buy expensive tax for cars
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under afta, same tax applied for asean makes. If local kena 85%, others also the same, even cbu from asean. Only cbu from non asean has 30% tax diff n ckd from non asean has 10% more. We are already in afta.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 11 2012, 09:11 AM)
under afta, same tax applied for asean makes. If local kena 85%, others also the same, even cbu from asean. Only cbu from non asean has 30% tax diff n ckd from non asean has 10% more. We are already in afta.
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wow.. many was worried about u yesterday...
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post Apr 11 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 11 2012, 09:11 AM)
under afta, same tax applied for asean makes. If local kena 85%, others also the same, even cbu from asean. Only cbu from non asean has 30% tax diff n ckd from non asean has 10% more. We are already in afta.
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So where are you going next?
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post Apr 11 2012, 11:07 AM

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i worried la proton under drb....
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post Apr 11 2012, 01:17 PM

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rumors : Proton plan to sell off Lotus to China Youngman

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/262208/

cant imagine where will the future proton stand without the support from Lotus Engineering...

so Y-family engines project gonna scrap too if this news is real?
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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Apr 11 2012, 01:17 PM)
rumors : Proton plan to sell off Lotus to China Youngman

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/262208/

cant imagine where will the future proton stand without the support from Lotus Engineering...

so Y-family engines project gonna scrap too if this news is real?
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It seems everything good about Proton is being let go.
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Proton learned the lotus handling n engineering technology..then sell it to free debts...y not?
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post Apr 11 2012, 01:38 PM

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FYI, the Preve suspension system is fully developed in-house by Proton. smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 11 2012, 01:22 PM)
It seems everything good about Proton is being let go.
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Lotus was good to learn from. Now with Bahar at the wheel, it's a money pit.

Potong should absorb all useful Lotus IPs and ditch it, and let Crazy Donny burn somebody else's money lol.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 11 2012, 01:38 PM)
FYI, the Preve suspension system is fully developed in-house by Proton. smile.gif
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The multi link system seems brilliant.
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The multi link system seems brilliant.
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Hopefully they learned from the Inspira's rear sus ngok2 debacle. Not that mine has that sound, mine you wink.gif

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FYI, the Preve suspension system is fully developed in-house by Proton. smile.gif
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ya..its true..but what about most important portion of car, the Powertrain? i think without lotus engineering, there wont be appearance of the current CFE where everyone here is brag about..

future Y-family engines? future mass-production hybrid-system?
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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Apr 11 2012, 01:48 PM)
ya..its true..but what about most important portion of car, the Powertrain? i think without lotus engineering, there wont be appearance of the current CFE where everyone here is brag about..

future Y-family engines? future mass-production hybrid-system?
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Best solution: ABSORB lotus engineering lol.

Sell off everything else haha.

IINM the CFE was developed in-house with assistance from Lotus for testing and tuning ONLY. We need mat79/DSZ to clarify though.

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its cheaper to kick danny bahar out and revise lotus transformation plan.... this way you get to keep the expertise and cut off the management ppl which are useless in the first place.
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Hopefully they learned from the Inspira's rear sus ngok2 debacle. Not that mine has that sound, mine you wink.gif
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So the Ispira uses the same multi link system? How's the performance?
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Anyone with any success with applying 100% loan? If so, what are the rates offered??
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 11 2012, 02:18 PM)
So the Ispira uses the same multi link system? How's the performance?
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NOT the same, it's a Mitsu design but Potong tweaked it extensively. Mitsu asso acknowledged Potong's good work "optimizing" it for Malaysian rough roads, but it resulted in some problems: the ngok2 sounds in some Raras.

But performance wise I've been in some hairy situations but the sus never let me down. It's a bit soft but progressive with no ugly surprises on the edge.

Hence I'm confident Potong can do well with the Preve sus, but be weary of weird sounds lol.

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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Apr 11 2012, 01:48 PM)
ya..its true..but what about most important portion of car, the Powertrain? i think without lotus engineering, there wont be appearance of the current CFE where everyone here is brag about..

future Y-family engines? future mass-production hybrid-system?
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If Lotus has its hands on the powerterain, the engine wont be this harsh and this, erm... how to put it... errr.... lethargic. wink.gif (I'm talking bout the NA variant)

turbocharging an engine doesn't need rocket science. Not like only Lotus can do it.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 11 2012, 03:02 PM)
If Lotus has its hands on the powerterain, the engine wont be this harsh and this, erm... how to put it... errr.... lethargic. wink.gif (I'm talking bout the NA variant)

turbocharging an engine doesn't need rocket science. Not like only Lotus can do it.
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lolx..if not mistaken, it is the previous 'top management' who has set the wrong objectives for the development of campro as they want the 'campro' to be the 'performance' type of engine rather than fuel saving engine? and that why when u see on paper, the max HP produced by campro isn't that bad, but to achieve that, high RPM needed, thus u get the 'harsh & lethargic' engine and poor driveability experience during towning due to poor torque @ low RPM zone..

furthermore, i remembered some1 mentioned b4 (perhaps is mat79), the initial 'campro kosong' is juz a piece of incomplete work due to internal problems (cost perhaps?) and the campro is actually capable to add in VIM + CVVT +DI as the final product, but what do we get in the end?

what i'm concerning is that do the current proton R&D team capable to produce 'good enough' new series of engines without collaboration of lotus engineering team?

and yes u are right, turbocharging an engine doesn't need rocket science, but what about 'optimizing' the turbo-charged engine? i juz dont think any manufacturers can simply produce an engine that is well optimized as we can see in TSI?

correct me if i'm wrong :>

btw, by letting go lotus, perhaps in next 3-5 years time we can get re-badge proton with VW's TSI (consider that TSI is no longer the latest tech by VW in let's say 5 years time?)

hahaha~~~

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QUOTE(siaokialeong @ Apr 11 2012, 03:43 PM)
lolx..if not mistaken, it is the previous 'top management' who has set the wrong objectives for the development of campro as they want the 'campro' to be the 'performance' type of engine rather than fuel saving engine? and that why when u see on paper, the max HP produced by campro isn't that bad, but to achieve that, high RPM needed, thus u get the 'harsh & lethargic' engine and poor driveability experience during towning due to poor torque @ low RPM zone..

furthermore, i remembered some1 mentioned b4 (perhaps is mat79), the initial 'campro kosong' is juz a piece of incomplete work due to internal problems (cost perhaps?) and the campro is actually capable to add in VIM + CVVT +DI as the final product, but what do we get in the end?

what i'm concerning is that do the current proton R&D team capable to produce 'good enough' new series of engines without collaboration of lotus engineering team?

and yes u are right, turbocharging an engine doesn't need rocket science, but what about 'optimizing' the turbo-charged engine? i juz dont think any manufacturers can simply produce an engine that is well optimized as we can see in TSI?

correct me if i'm wrong :>

btw, by letting go lotus, perhaps in next 3-5 years time we can get re-badge proton with VW's TSI (consider that TSI is no longer the latest tech by VW in let's say 5 years time?)

hahaha~~~
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Best example is 308t. So many issues with its turbo engine.
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just searched the prebook list, everyone getting the cvt cfe huh?
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just searched the prebook list, everyone getting the cvt cfe huh?
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Seems evertone getting the hi end premium
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Just come back from showroom. SA said there will be 2 units of Prevé at showroom on Monday, 1 for display and 1 for test drive. thumbup.gif
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need to book for test drive? even for proton need to book?
if so, just called any branch/showroom and book?
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