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 ㊕ ㊕(≧◡≦) ♠ ♠ ♠Proton Prevé V3♠ ♠ ♠(≧◡≦) ㊕ ㊕, ► Official Discussions for Proton Prevé

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ckk125
post Apr 7 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 7 2012, 06:10 PM)
i'm waiting to test drive this car with my gf...1 of few cars we gonna test drive...wanna trade in her myvi....currently eyeing for inspira,forte,preve (for family car category)...if can,gonna trade in my waja too for other car...
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inspira and forte is 15-18k different...quite a big top up eh? shocking.gif
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post Apr 7 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Apr 7 2012, 09:55 PM)
You're spot on. This is how I drive my Honda City IDSI and Exora Bold CFE. In normal condition, just need to maintain about 2100 RPM for EB, and 2600 RPM for IDSI to smoothly accelerate. To overtake, use the S or L mode. The surge is there. Especially for EB, the engine will scream when I floored the pedal, but the speed gain is so smal, comparatively. Malaysians are probably could not get used to drive with CVT. That's why Honda dropped it altogether and replaced with conventional AT for the new Honda City, I believe.
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Added on April 7, 2012, 11:45 pm
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 7 2012, 10:26 PM)
No need to wait for Preve, if you just wanna test the 1.6 IAFM+ CVT variant (since we are talking about max torque @ 4k RPM), the Saga FLX SE shares the same powertrain and characteristics, minus the weight.

The CFE CVT variant reaches max torque at 2k RPM.
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for 0-100 sprint, torque plays a role, just as horsepower. the hp at 2k rpm wont make it to 100kmh. but i do agree, with the CVT, normal day driving, u'll rarely rev it to redline

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post Apr 7 2012, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Apr 7 2012, 11:50 PM)
flaming?sarcasm?
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it depends on how u look at it. historically the 1st batch guys will be the white mouse, myself included.
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 7 2012, 11:54 PM)
And not just Proton, might I add.
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yaya..like those honda city guys, 1st batch kena nicely from honda. not to mention the civic's power steering


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:05 am
QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 7 2012, 07:16 PM)
and for stopping distance, why preve out brake all its benchmark competitors, look at preve disc size front n rear, it 15 inch disc, n check the others in b@c segments. Try to compare the size, evem for focus
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the inspira has 15/14, do u know the figures for the inspira?

The altis has 15/15 as well, but i am not sure about he civic.



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post Apr 8 2012, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 8 2012, 12:05 AM)
I dunno the story leh, do educate us  brows.gif


Added on April 8, 2012, 12:08 am

Not long after it was launched, I saw a Gen 2 stalled in the middle of the road, upon closer inspection, I see the entire left front wheel has come off, complete with hub and disc. The lady owner was standing beside the road crying  cry.gif
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dont have to think too far, during the saga flx launch, the cvts were recalled.

Yes, i know other makes have problems with the 1st batch as well, but the most recent one was the saga flx.

the pros, feel good factor,

cons, when ur car hv problem, u r the only one. smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 8 2012, 12:09 AM)
ya lor can't wait for that long, shld be getting 2nd batch.

hmm,if 1st batch got problem, how soon or which batch normally they will apply the fix?
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this is a tricky one, perhaps when they start to export them? then by then, most of the teething problems would be solved. which explains why the export market starts a few months after launch
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post Apr 8 2012, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 8 2012, 01:28 PM)
well...if u compare it like that
i would say the CFE is faster but the mivec will be more fuel efficient
after all, mivec is a more advance engine...campro is like old fashioned outdated engine with a low boost turbo afterall
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4b11 has the mivec, which in toyota lingo, dual vvti, but town drive can get around 10km/l only.

interested to see the cfe. but again, hard to compare la..if got turbo, sure very addictive 1. tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2012, 01:37 PM

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haha..we mivec also always want to tekan..imagine turbo lah. tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2012, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE( r u g a @ Apr 8 2012, 04:33 PM)
has anyone asked before regarding the headlight?

from the TVC it seems like its a H.I.D bulb.

but from what the brochure, it never really mention either is on halogen or hid.
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halogen
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post Apr 8 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 04:42 PM)
yup, cfe just an old junk with old tech. Mivec, vtec n vvti are really uptodate engine. Thats why its so lame for vw when lancer launch with 4b11 with mivec technology, vw still using outdated ea113 without incorporate variable valve tech where the japs n koreans been using them for centurty(i think :-),he..he..), n recently ea888 has that, but then its too late, the japs already come out with valvematic. Direct injection is old tech, turbo also old. Only vtec, vvti, mivec@valvematic are the uptodate n latest tech :-).

Couple with old easyu 32 bit torque based ecu, where all japs n koreans been using in their cars for century. And using old cvt tech, where others are using torque converter based, dry clutch based, this punch using wet clucth based which is outdated. Same as old getrag manual gearbox, better stick to mitsu who is the maestro creating mivec for engine, so, gearbox must be full of awesomeness too.

Dun worry, prtn wont surpass them. Keep using the updated tech. No need to look at old junk euro 5 engine :-). Its nothing.
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bro, mind to share inspira's stopping distance? smile.gif

haiya..sarcasm is not needed.

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post Apr 8 2012, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 8 2012, 04:56 PM)
wow, 70k car needs to fully utilize all rpm, then how about ,merc s class, bmw 7 series, did the owners pedal to metal@ its chauffeur pedal it to metal everytime the boss inside, coz he pay a freaking 700k. :-).

This is cvt, thats why many still dont understand how to drive it by thinking pedal to metal is the best way to achieve speed like 140kmh. While those in 2.0 na manual  and conv auto busy pedal to metal to achieve 140kmh in drag, in cfe,just press 3k rpm, u r already there. No pedal to metal, to stress the engine, really comfortable, where others need to bear the metal clunking sound at redline coz they are paying more than 140k, so need to explore all the rpms. By paying 70k which is nearly half of it, so, need only to explore half of rpms available coz if want the all rpms, get the expensive one.

Ops forget, u also have 90k car that u can explore all the rpms. So, no need to pay more.
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haha..aiya..depends on individual drivers la..in town who can rev to 5k rpm anyway. but there are some who will. tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2012, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 8 2012, 10:31 PM)
aiyo...state these info la...( i dun think i need to write this):

1) how much u fuel up ur tank?
2) market price/litre at the time u fuel up ur tank?
3) type of RON
4) mileage b4 and after or simply put total KM
5) ur speed..dun care whatever speed u want to put...average ka fastest ka...whatever...

then in the future, u can use the data...do i need to teach how to diff current price and future price? come on la...just change the price la...


Added on April 8, 2012, 10:33 pmbut of course..this way...we make others headache...for those who are lazy...
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actually, what is so hard to calculate in km/l?
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post Apr 9 2012, 06:18 AM

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QUOTE(dinwaja @ Apr 9 2012, 03:25 AM)
nothing hard...what i said is only for those who want to calculate using RM...if u can understand my intention carefully,then good..if not,i can't help la...


Added on April 9, 2012, 3:27 amanyway....RM5=2.631litre...valid as 09/04/2012...ron95...
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the problem is, post election and the price will not be the same. then it'll be confusing. when u buy petrol, the litres are also stated. what is so difficult? blink.gif
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post Apr 14 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(sonyman @ Apr 14 2012, 09:27 AM)
going back to the LED, if it is so, it will only turn on when the light is on, then i wonder what it is function? If it is not a DRL, then is it just a extra show off no function part?

i was presuming it all the while that it is a DRL, which u could turn on and off,

just like the others. very very weird design, i still think a lot of improvement needs to be done on this kind of small and tiny items, just like the push start button with no smart keyless entry.

just like someone said, concentrate too much on the engine and GB, then did the interior at a very fast pace, without thinking of what should be done and what should not.

i wonder is it like the Jetta, u know ? something like that.
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proton did not say it is DRL, it is a LED position light
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post Apr 16 2012, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Apr 16 2012, 10:41 PM)
5yrs or 150k km...

hmm why not giving 200k km?
will the cvt last 200k km?
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normal la.

insight hybrid battery = 5 years, 140k km. smile.gif

the insight's warranty only 3yrs
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Apr 16 2012, 11:37 PM)
wonder wat will happen if water goes inside...if u see in real life..the lubang much more big
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water go inside? there is a drain at the bottom .a doh.gif

u seriously think that all other car's window rubberlining is water proof ah? all the water will seep down into the door assembly and gets drain by small holes at the bottom of the door
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post Apr 17 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(exergy @ Apr 17 2012, 09:08 PM)
Just to add my 2 cents:

we found the front seats of the preve to be large, soft, supportive, and very very comfy. this after having just come from a premium 2L inspira. and bro, the preve is bigger in every dimension (except about 30mm in length) and by all accounts it is unlikely for the inspira's interior volume to be higher, and certainly, it wouldnt be 'almost similar like city' because this car is larger than the civic! wink.gif
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numbers mean nothing for interior. look at the latio, so so dimensions but interior can make ur jaw drop.

it is the packaging. the inspira feels more spacious as the seats are more slanted than the preve. but the drawback is the inspira has a smaller boot.

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