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post Mar 19 2012, 12:54 AM, updated 8y ago

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Media Reviews
http://www.paultan.org/2012/04/05/proton-p...iafm-and-cfe/pa
http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/201...w-proton-preve/
http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...=RT.ATC.CAR.BTW
http://www.cbt.com.my/2012/04/05/preve-proving-its-worth/
http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/NewsHea...-Preve-1-6.aspx
http://star-motoring.com/Previews/2012/Pre...e-variants.aspx

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sometimes I like to be childish also so...

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post Mar 19 2012, 12:59 AM

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sometimes I like to be childish also so...

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Nothing wrong with that. That seems to be the theme during the last few pages of the previous thread.
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Proton P3-21A - More Info to Digest

The anticipation for Proton's new P3-21A sedan continues to build up. As noted in our coverage of the Proton Power of 1 event at Bukit Jalil yesterday, a soft launch for the model has already taken place and bookings are being accepted at showrooms nationwide. The internet has since been flooded with various information of the vehicle, the most pertinent being a very genuine-looking leaked specs sheet on funtasticko design's blog.

Today, we had an opportunity to dig info straight from the source, and it was none other than Dr Wolfgang Epple, Senior Director Operations and Project Director of P3-21A. To give you a bit of a background, Epple was pinched from BMW, and the most telling reference on his CV was his role as the man in charge of developing the E90 3 Series. Serious pedigree then.

Earlier this morning, Dr Epple engaged members of the Malaysian media in a brief interview focused on the development and features of the P3-21A. The objective of the interview was to project the message that the P3-21A is ready to take on the best in the market. Indeed, Dr Epple pointed out that the P3-21A was benchmarked against the Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, and Ford Focus. Sensible choices in our opinion - the Civic and Corolla represents popular market choices, whilst the Focus' dynamics far surpasses the competition, even if it is an outgoing model.

The P3-21A is set to represent a huge quantum leap for Proton in many respects - ride and handling, safety, quality, technology, and performance. Word from inside the company is that this is going to be the best Proton ever, though one should bear in mind that we have heard this claim from Proton before, most noticeably when the Waja was launched.

Indeed, it was surprising - and on a personal note, pleasing - to note that until today, the Waja's body shell is the stiffest ever offered in a Proton car - with an overall stiffness of 13,000 N/mm. Dr Epple tells us that the P3-21A betters that significantly, raising the figure to 18,000 N/mm. The benefits of a stiffer chassis are enormous. In addition to offering better crash protection, it helps to improve ride, handling, and NVH insulation.

Overall development process of the P3-21A took 21 months, though Proton did not exactly start from scratch. The frontal subframe and floor pan is taken from the Exora, but the rear has been altered to fit a multi-link rear suspension in place of the Exora's torsion beam. This revelation is unsurprising when you recall pictures of a certain flattened Exora test mule that was circulating in the Internet. We got a good look under that particular mule some time back, and its multi-link rear suspension was the first thing to catch the eye.

Another aspect of the P3-21A that will be greatly improved from previous Protons is safety. Stability control and side airbags will offered for the first time in a Proton, and Dr Epple noted that the P3-21A is designed with the aim of scoring five stars from Euro NCAP. Of course, it is extremely important to emphasize that the car has not yet passed any tests from Euro NCAP, but that Proton has designed the car to be compliant with the agency's highest rating. To use a student's analogy, Proton has studied for the exam, but the report card certainly isn't out yet.

Proton has yet to commit to a confirmed launch date for the P3-21A, nor has it divulged the new model's name. We do know that Tanjung Malim is already churning out the full production models, so launch date will certainly be in the next month or so. Meanwhile, the engineers have added the engine and front suspension assembly to the bare chassis being displayed at the Power of 1 carnival. We will leave you with the relevant pictures.

http://www.autoworld.com.my/v2/news/nb_det...d=RT.ATC.CAR.PV
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post Mar 19 2012, 12:59 AM

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ruffstuff, thanks for bringing over the post.
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post Mar 19 2012, 01:00 AM

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1st page tongue.gif
Anyway i hope mod can warn and take serious action to people that try to troll here.
Really spoil the discussion. People want discuss about this new Proton car, they bring up other topic and praise their T, H or whatever car like god. No one give any tahi about that anyway.
FNF shouldn't have space for this kind of idiocy.
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Put spoiler on the spec sheet
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post Mar 19 2012, 01:03 AM

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guys. how much fuel 6.3L @100km looks like. i my have the old gen2 2005 ( the campro without cps and iafm+) and its like rm30 from sepang to Tapah. i still cant find info about old campro engine fuel consumption @100KM.

please dont flame me because i dont own a car yet. huhu.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Mar 19 2012, 01:02 AM)
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Put spoiler on the spec sheet
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why? small screen? lawl.
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QUOTE(hexer_xavier @ Mar 19 2012, 01:03 AM)
why? small screen? lawl.
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It's fine with my desktop but definitely not ok with phone.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Mar 19 2012, 01:02 AM)
@dares

Put spoiler on the spec sheet
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Done

QUOTE(TakanoKyohei @ Mar 19 2012, 01:03 AM)
guys. how much fuel 6.3L @100km looks like. i my have the old gen2 2005 ( the campro without cps and iafm+) and its like rm30 from sepang to Tapah. i still cant find info about old campro engine fuel consumption @100KM.

please dont flame me because i dont own a car yet. huhu.
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How many KM? Ron95?
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they really should consider bringing back the TUV sticker..
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post Mar 19 2012, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(ssangyongs @ Mar 19 2012, 01:06 AM)
they really should consider bringing back the TUV sticker..
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TUV? Last I heard, after TUVs involvement with Savvy, Proton never fully pay them for their consultation services.

If this is true, I doubt TUV wanna be involve again.

correct me if this is untrue.


Added on March 19, 2012, 1:14 amLol my thread description kena edited by mod kah?

Sorry if it offended anyone tongue.gif

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yay! 1st page! hope that troll stop coming. sick of his idiotic comment.

how can a human born to be that idiotic and ignorant doh.gif


Added on March 19, 2012, 1:17 amthe down part of the car is only the premium cvt have the cfe engine and protonic gb... they should at least put cfe in all the model x(

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post Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM

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should have bring up the clay model as well... i think hehe

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Added on March 19, 2012, 1:19 amthe front of the clay model looks similar to exora

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Yay the clay model look really nice. I personally like the rear end.
If this is prototype model, i hope when they plan to release the car, they not spoil it again.
Or else, no one gonna give any tahi anymore with Proton concept car.

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM)
should have bring up the clay model as well... i think hehe


Added on March 19, 2012, 1:19 amthe front of the clay model looks similar to exora
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Thanks for bringing it over.

Sad reminder of what it could've been.
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 19 2012, 01:21 AM)
Thanks for bringing it over.

Sad reminder of what it could've been.
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agreed. if looks like the clay model ppl will be speechless. haha
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 19 2012, 01:00 AM)

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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM)
should have bring up the clay model as well... i think hehe

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Added on March 19, 2012, 1:19 amthe front of the clay model looks similar to exora
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this got potential to be future perdana replacement model. if proton got the plan
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man, is hard to get a chance to take clean photo of those clay models... there must be someone standing right beside it for hours.. ><
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QUOTE(blo0dLuSt @ Mar 19 2012, 01:29 AM)
agreed. if looks like the clay model ppl will be speechless. haha
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someone will say..


"stupid proton copy other maker design"
"proton designer makan gaji buta ka"
"potong shit only know how to copy"
"potong this potong that..."


it will never ends..


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Cool look like very impressive.. Dunno after test drive and how was the handering smile.gif

Can't wait it arrival

Car is look more recent deisgn but dunno the parts can last longer or durable of day light sun.

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A report in The Star today said that almost 500 bookings had been received for this car from Wednesday to Sunday.
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That's new born baby have in Hand can reviews in some of carparks or in the road smile.gif
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM)
should have bring up the clay model as well... i think hehe

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the front of the clay model looks similar to exora
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rear end got essence of 535i GT brows.gif
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Love the clay model style. Look very class.
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wei..that clay model..definitely speechless..
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM)
should have bring up the clay model as well... i think hehe

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Added on March 19, 2012, 1:19 amthe front of the clay model looks similar to exora
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Aiya Proton should have used this as the rear design for the current production doh.gif Save for SE version later perhaps hmm.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 19 2012, 08:00 AM)
A report in The Star today said that almost 500 bookings had been received for this car from Wednesday to Sunday.
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Good, meaning we have at least 500 peoples' responses before deciding to buy or not to buy brows.gif
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM)
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"Finished product"

Kind of hard to swallow ignorant grammar by proton
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"Finished product"

Kind of hard to swallow ignorant grammar by proton
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Hahahaha rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 AM)
should have bring up the clay model as well... i think hehe

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Added on March 19, 2012, 1:19 amthe front of the clay model looks similar to exora
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Look very class to me.

Hope the clay model and actual model is the same.


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When is this P3-21A available in Proton Showroom?
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QUOTE(huosgqpw @ Mar 19 2012, 09:50 AM)
"Finished product"

Kind of hard to swallow ignorant grammar by proton
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Lol rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Mar 19 2012, 10:07 AM)
When is this P3-21A available in Proton Showroom?
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Rumours point to early April.
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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Mar 19 2012, 09:55 AM)
Look very class to me.

Hope the clay model and actual model is the same.
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fl version of tuah perhaps?
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dont give too much faith on the clay model. anything can be changed.
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hopefully when its launched, i can get a test drive.. 2 buy one is definitely out of the question 4 me..
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hopefully when its launched, i can get a test drive.. 2 buy one is definitely out of the question 4 me..
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Just remember don't tell that to the SA rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 19 2012, 10:27 AM)
Just remember don't tell that to the SA  rclxms.gif
of coz laa.. the SA nvr see me also wit the way i dress tongue.gif
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QUOTE(CooShyRee @ Mar 19 2012, 10:24 AM)
hopefully when its launched, i can get a test drive.. 2 buy one is definitely out of the question 4 me..
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Test drive is a must. Last time when proton introduce cps, i went to test drive gen2 cps. That i was like 'wooaa...' maybe becos i used to drive underpowered kancil that time. But now i'm driving a cps so i hope this will be my second ' woooaaa...' test driving a proton car laugh.gif
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QUOTE(huosgqpw @ Mar 19 2012, 09:50 AM)
"Finished product"

Kind of hard to swallow ignorant grammar by proton
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i think they meant 'Finish' product means scrapped already the design was rejected so scrapped lolx


one of the visitor ask the designer during the event

"I asked one of the design staffs at the event, this clay was actually one of the rejected design for the new proton because they wanted a safe and long lasting design.. This car looks good, but will it be so after 5 years? Radical designs tend to age faster.. So lets not condemn proton for rejecting this design because they think in the long run and no base on current trends.. Keep up the good work proton, make malaysia proud.."

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Dont tell me proton plans to use this Preve Design for 20 years like the wira? If it meant to penetrate the global market, the design shud change every 5-7 years like what other manufactures are doing.

They shud win the hearts by first batch and new design like what Kia is doing. Win the market now and then plan for the future models.

They did a good job with the specs and stuff but design wise and price wise, still subjective biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Mar 19 2012, 11:39 AM)
Dont tell me proton plans to use this Preve Design for 20 years like the wira? If it meant to penetrate the global market, the design shud change every 5-7 years like what other manufactures are doing.

They shud win the hearts by first batch and new design like what Kia is doing. Win the market now and then plan for the future models.

They did a good job with the specs and stuff but design wise and price wise, still subjective biggrin.gif
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I tot today trend is like 3-4 years.. The Korean pushing this faster to make the Japs no choice too...
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Mar 19 2012, 11:39 AM)
Dont tell me proton plans to use this Preve Design for 20 years like the wira? If it meant to penetrate the global market, the design shud change every 5-7 years like what other manufactures are doing.

They shud win the hearts by first batch and new design like what Kia is doing. Win the market now and then plan for the future models.

They did a good job with the specs and stuff but design wise and price wise, still subjective biggrin.gif
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I think the design is pretty much done, the car has already been spotted many many times. Can refer back to paultan.org for more pictures of it. What still remain a mystery is the price, which i think should be around RM75k.

All in all, looks to be a good deal, looking at the spec and everything. biggrin.gif
Should be a real good sale if you ask me.
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Mar 19 2012, 11:39 AM)
]b]Dont tell me proton plans to use this Preve Design for 20 years like the wira? If it meant to penetrate the global market, the design shud change every 5-7 years like what other manufactures are doing.[/b]

They shud win the hearts by first batch and new design like what Kia is doing. Win the market now and then plan for the future models.

They did a good job with the specs and stuff but design wise and price wise, still subjective biggrin.gif
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I bet they know about it. We just have to wait.
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 19 2012, 10:09 AM)
Rumours point to early April.
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SA @ mutiara damansara said the same too...and inspira FL after that...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 11:41 AM)
I tot today trend is like 3-4 years..  The Korean pushing this faster to make the Japs no choice too...
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ya the trend now is change soonest possible.

who would have thought ppl need to change phone every year la ( looking at iphone fan) and the phone costs more than a laptop.
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QUOTE(JarodLeong @ Mar 19 2012, 11:46 AM)
SA @ mutiara damansara said the same too...and inspira FL after that...
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which SA huh? Sur name?

the SA told me same story.. new INspira FL.. with Full touch screen HU same with P321.. and reverse camera.. minor bumper change..
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Found this brochure on my post box – very “Temptative” hehe
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 11:52 AM)
ya the trend now is change soonest possible.

who would have thought ppl need to change phone every year la ( looking at iphone fan) and the phone costs more than a laptop.
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die.. thinking of change phone now.. not becoz of the function.. becoz my phone randomly hang esp with bluetooth headset... laugh.gif

back to Car.. later kena flame... p321> Inspira.. tongue.gif

by the way.. plan to add turbo to ur Ra? brows.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 11:55 AM)
die.. thinking of change phone now..  not becoz of the function..  becoz my phone randomly hang esp with bluetooth headset...  laugh.gif

back to Car.. later kena flame...  p321> Inspira..  tongue.gif

by the way.. plan to add turbo to ur Ra?  brows.gif
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cannot la, this is uncle car la. CVT cannot tahan the turbo......a few examples in western countries, all failed due to cvt cannot stand the torque.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 11:56 AM)
cannot la, this is uncle car la. CVT cannot tahan the turbo......a few examples in western countries, all failed due to cvt cannot stand the torque.
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NIssan CVT so lousy... grumble.gif grumble.gif

I heard nissan Xwat wat tronic manage the CVT better.. more ohpms...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 11:59 AM)
NIssan CVT so lousy...  grumble.gif grumble.gif

I heard nissan Xwat wat tronic manage the CVT better.. more ohpms...
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ya, the cvt can only tahan until 240nm. ( smaller size ma). nissan also using a bigger and better one in their 3.5 murano.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 11:54 AM)
which SA huh? Sur name? 

the SA told me same story.. new INspira FL.. with Full touch screen HU same with P321..  and reverse camera.. minor bumper change..
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i din ask his name...when i walk in, inside only has few customer plus 2-3 SA (2 serving customer, the other 1 standing there showing boring face biggrin.gif ).

so i walk to him and ask "Hi, nak tengok inspira dengan kete baru p3 ade ke?"

He replied, inspira takde boss, no stock atm. show unit pun dah jual...nanti ade FL version keluar bulan Apr, tapi sebelum tu P3 akan launch dulu"
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ya, the cvt can only tahan until 240nm. ( smaller size ma). nissan also using a bigger and better one in their 3.5 murano.
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i din ask his name...when i walk in, inside only has few customer plus 2-3 SA (2 serving customer, the other 1 standing there showing boring face biggrin.gif ).

so i walk to him and ask "Hi, nak tengok inspira dengan kete baru p3 ade ke?"

He replied, inspira takde boss, no stock atm. show unit pun dah jual...nanti ade FL version keluar bulan Apr, tapi sebelum tu P3 akan launch dulu"
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almost the same story I heard... and understand from them the new HU is bose unit oh... brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 12:03 PM)
sadding.. later P3 boy cannot mod too much on the power side liao..  sad.gif


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almost the same story I heard...  and understand from them the new HU is bose unit oh...  brows.gif brows.gif
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bro, its Bosch, not Bose. you think u buy fairlady ar? tongue.gif manader Bose.
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bro, its Bosch, not Bose. you think u buy fairlady ar? tongue.gif manader Bose.
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Bosch ah? aiyo.. terus - 10point liao... laugh.gif laugh.gif joking....

the SA mislead me.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 12:07 PM)
Bosch ah?  aiyo..  terus - 10point liao...  laugh.gif laugh.gif  joking.... 

the SA mislead me.. laugh.gif
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he put bose ,then ppl will break the window to steal it lol.
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why behind lights are all red in car .. ?
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talak takut..  Inspira ada tough windscreen/window..  thumbup.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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5 speed manual still get the damm 5 year old Persona engine!!!
Crap to my standards.



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5 speed manual still get the damm 5 year old Persona engine!!!
Crap to my standards.
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QUOTE(charleyz @ Mar 19 2012, 12:19 PM)
5 speed manual still get the damm 5 year old Persona engine!!!
Crap to my standards.
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Toyota Camry also got the same 2.0 engine from bazillion years ago
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must compare with korean car, cannot compare with jap car, korean car history similar to proton ma

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 12:23 PM)
must compare with korean car, cannot compare with jap car, korean car history similar to proton ma

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Anyone knows if there's a "deadline" for pre-booking the car?

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Also, BuFung just noticed your sig... Serious liao? Who said that? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 12:50 PM)
Anyone knows if there's a "deadline" for pre-booking the car?

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Also, BuFung just noticed your sig... Serious liao? Who said that? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 12:03 PM)
sadding.. later P3 boy cannot mod too much on the power side liao..  sad.gif

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performance mod better NOT...cuz anything happen, proton sure won't be responsible
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sadding.. later P3 boy cannot mod too much on the power side liao..  sad.gif
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At least P3 already have turbo.

Kesian us with the Saga CVT, max torque is 180Nm only. put turbo straightaway GB kong.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 12:52 PM)
a die hard nokia phone fans who think Nokia > all ...  always create own term .. like NANDRAM...  etc...
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laugh.gif Interesting. Name Sifu sumore sweat.gif

Keeping on-topic, anyone knows if pre-booking is limited to a certain amount?
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Not sure if prebook got limited units. Previously they are people mention at tanjung malim they have 3k units. According to thestar so far only 500 units booked. What color u plan to take?
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 01:12 PM)
laugh.gif Interesting. Name Sifu sumore sweat.gif

Keeping on-topic, anyone knows if pre-booking is limited to a certain amount?
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name Aspire bla bla bla.. famous die hard fans in Symbian/NOkia thread.... he is truly in the faggot level.. laugh.gif


why u worry about the booking limit? U hurry need a car? if yes.. faster go book now...


according to some SIFU said they have 3000 units ready.. so.. 1 months deliver 1000units still can have3 months supply mah... and still on going production..


beside, some other Sifu said only have 1k++ units laying around...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 PM)
name Aspire bla bla bla..  famous die hard fans in Symbian/NOkia thread....  he is truly in the faggot level..  laugh.gif
why u worry about the booking limit?  U hurry need a car?  if yes.. faster go book now... 
according to some SIFU said they have 3000 units ready..  so.. 1 months deliver 1000units still can have3 months supply mah... and still on going production..
beside, some other Sifu said only have 1k++ units laying around...
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dont worry, 1st batch ppl are skeptical.

even the rebadge car i also wait 1 year. with proton, you cant be too careful, lol.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 PM)
dont worry, 1st batch ppl are skeptical.

even the rebadge car i also wait 1 year. with proton, you cant be too careful, lol.
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u waited 1 year?? waited 1 year for?

turboja without Turbo.. mana ada complete? yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 01:20 PM)
u waited 1 year??  waited 1 year for?

turboja without Turbo.. mana ada complete?  yawn.gif  yawn.gif  yawn.gif  tongue.gif
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waited 1 year to buy the car la, and it took them about 1 year to figure out the suspension sound problem, see.

after plunk in turbo, then you see turboja take bus to work. car cvt kantoi, car cannot use.

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 01:21 PM)
waited 1 year to buy the car la, and it took them about 1 year to figure out the suspension sound problem, see.
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OMFG....  sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(37867 @ Mar 19 2012, 01:17 PM)
Not sure if prebook got limited units. Previously they are people mention at tanjung malim they have 3k units. According to thestar so far only 500 units booked. What color u plan to take?
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Hmmmm...Read about the article as well. Don't have time to go and book liao sweat.gif

Still deciding between black or white. I like black. But reading the comments in the prev thread, lots of people say white will look much nicer. Just don't want to have the yellowing effect though. Or the constant need to wax as was mentioned by someone in the prev thread sweat.gif

So more inclined on black atm.

QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 01:18 PM)
name Aspire bla bla bla..  famous die hard fans in Symbian/NOkia thread....  he is truly in the faggot level..  laugh.gif
why u worry about the booking limit?  U hurry need a car?  if yes.. faster go book now... 
according to some SIFU said they have 3000 units ready..  so.. 1 months deliver 1000units still can have3 months supply mah... and still on going production..
beside, some other Sifu said only have 1k++ units laying around...
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Lol. Want to teach others but...epic fail. Heh. Like the previous troll-wannabe who uses a car to measure success. I pity the fool. Are we that pathetic nowadays? We measure a man's success, prestige and worth by the car he drives??? WTH happened to our generation? Oh lord. I really feel sorry for them doh.gif

ANYWAYS, worried because I'm afraid that there will be a sudden spike of people ordering and I have to delay getting the car. I'm kinda 80% decided on the car already. Would really love to test drive the car first though. But takut if wait too long delivery will take too long sweat.gif

Plus, I'm of the opinion that the early batch would be better qc-wise. Problems could easily be rectified via warranty.

I think. Feel free to correct me though laugh.gif

I'm putting my money on proton going all out to salvage their reputation. I used to be a hater. Untill I saw the specs of this car. Heh.
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 02:08 PM)
Hmmmm...Read about the article as well. Don't have time to go and book liao sweat.gif

Still deciding between black or white. I like black. But reading the comments in the prev thread, lots of people say white will look much nicer. Just don't want to have the yellowing effect though. Or the constant need to wax as was mentioned by someone in the prev thread sweat.gif

So more inclined on black atm.
Lol. Want to teach others but...epic fail. Heh. Like the previous troll-wannabe who uses a car to measure success. I pity the fool. Are we that pathetic nowadays? We measure a man's success, prestige and worth by the car he drives??? WTH happened to our generation? Oh lord. I really feel sorry for them  doh.gif

ANYWAYS, worried because I'm afraid that there will be a sudden spike of people ordering and I have to delay getting the car. I'm kinda 80% decided on the car already. Would really love to test drive the car first though. But takut if wait too long delivery will take too long sweat.gif

Plus, I'm of the opinion that the early batch would be better qc-wise. Problems could easily be rectified via warranty.

I think. Feel free to correct me though laugh.gif

I'm putting my money on proton going all out to salvage their reputation. I used to be a hater. Untill I saw the specs of this car. Heh.
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For P3, i believe they put all effort to get the first batch user's feedback as the testimonial of what they wanted. I'm not afraid of the QC cause this can be fixed easily and they already put effort into it, but more worried on the design wise. Since it is new chassis, design issue might be a major problem. Not only true for Proton, but others as well.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 19 2012, 02:14 PM)
For P3, i believe they put all effort to get the first batch user's feedback as the testimonial of what they wanted. I'm not afraid of the QC cause this can be fixed easily and they already put effort into it, but more worried on the design wise. Since it is new chassis, design issue might be a major problem. Not only true for Proton, but others as well.
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Design shouldn't be a problem though right...I mean, there's warranty for that no? Or will it be too painful a process and I should just stick with my current car until they sorted things out.

I'm just worried that if I adopt later, the QC - after the initial good response (providing of course, that it was a big hit), they would start to cut back on it.

When you say problem with the design/chassis, what could go wrong eh?

On a different note, does anyone know when they would actually get the results for the NCAP testing?

PS: Appreciate your posts btw. Informative like Mat's mostly. Wish there was a way to like/rep up posts in the forum
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 02:35 PM)
Design shouldn't be a problem though right...I mean, there's warranty for that no? Or will it be too painful a process and I should just stick with my current car until they sorted things out.

I'm just worried that if I adopt later, the QC - after the initial good response (providing of course, that it was a big hit), they would start to cut back on it.

When you say problem with the design/chassis, what could go wrong eh?

On a different note, does anyone know when they would actually get the results for the NCAP testing?

PS: Appreciate your posts btw. Informative like Mat's mostly. Wish there was a way to like/rep up posts in the forum
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bro, thats always a catch.

1st batch,

pro= better QC/material
cons= white mice.

the, being the first one with the car= priceless.

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 01:27 PM)
no worries, now its ok to buy laugh.gif
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will it take another 5 years to address problem just like the power window for P321a.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

the Inspira.. last year I tested once actually.. test drive car with suspension problem.. sweat.gif laugh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 03:03 PM)
will it take another 5 years to address problem just like the power window for P321a..  sweat.gif sweat.gif

the Inspira.. last year I tested once actually..  test drive car with suspension problem.. sweat.gif laugh.gif doh.gif
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the power window not localised, dont worry. if really spoilt, change to mitsu part la wink.gif

er....suspension problem.....because P1 only touch suspension....so....its not a surprise biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 03:04 PM)
the power window not localised, dont worry. if really spoilt, change to mitsu part la wink.gif

er....suspension problem.....because P1 only touch suspension....so....its not a surprise biggrin.gif
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Inspira also got the power window issue?!! I do not know eh... sweat.gif sweat.gif wat I mean just now is the other proton car.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 03:06 PM)
Inspira also got the power window issue?!!  I do not know eh... sweat.gif sweat.gif wat I mean just now is the other proton car.. sweat.gif
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oh, other car....no wonder....

er.....they now give lifetime warranty ma brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 02:08 PM)
Hmmmm...Read about the article as well. Don't have time to go and book liao sweat.gif

Still deciding between black or white. I like black. But reading the comments in the prev thread, lots of people say white will look much nicer. Just don't want to have the yellowing effect though. Or the constant need to wax as was mentioned by someone in the prev thread sweat.gif

So more inclined on black atm.
Lol. Want to teach others but...epic fail. Heh. Like the previous troll-wannabe who uses a car to measure success. I pity the fool. Are we that pathetic nowadays? We measure a man's success, prestige and worth by the car he drives??? WTH happened to our generation? Oh lord. I really feel sorry for them  doh.gif

ANYWAYS, worried because I'm afraid that there will be a sudden spike of people ordering and I have to delay getting the car. I'm kinda 80% decided on the car already. Would really love to test drive the car first though. But takut if wait too long delivery will take too long sweat.gif

Plus, I'm of the opinion that the early batch would be better qc-wise. Problems could easily be rectified via warranty.

I think. Feel free to correct me though laugh.gif

I'm putting my money on proton going all out to salvage their reputation. I used to be a hater. Untill I saw the specs of this car. Heh.
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80% decided? Go for it and be the first few instant 'star'.
Q issue? Warranty will take care of that.
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funny i have never thought of a proton... but with this... might just consider.....

only thing is no leather seats
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 04:04 PM)
the power window not localised, dont worry. if really spoilt, change to mitsu part la wink.gif

er....suspension problem.....because P1 only touch suspension....so....its not a surprise biggrin.gif
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Its worth also if power windows rosak after 5 years with 10 years warranty. After 5 years replace with a new one and then it will take another years. Total up 10 years lifetime.

The most important is the resale value of the car. If you take Korean car, what if problem come cry.gif out after 5 years and you are unable to sell they car due to low resales value? correct me if i am not. Currently, i am not sure how is the resales value for Forte?
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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Mar 19 2012, 03:19 PM)
Its worth also if power windows rosak after 5 years with 10 years warranty. After 5 years replace with a new one and then it will take another years. Total up 10 years lifetime.

The most important is the resale value of the car. If you take Korean car, what if problem come  cry.gif  out after 5 years and you are unable to sell they car due to low resales value? correct me if i am not. Currently, i am not sure how is the resales value for Forte?
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oh man, u're gonna start a flame war with this statement
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kimchiboy coming... grab my popcorn first...

but i think here... sure potongboy win...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 03:30 PM)
kimchiboy coming...  grab my popcorn first...

but i think here... sure potongboy win...
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of cos man, myvi vs saga, myvi sure lost in lowyat, but not in salesnumber biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 03:31 PM)
of cos man, myvi vs saga, myvi sure lost in lowyat, but not in salesnumber biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 04:26 PM)
oh man, u're gonna start a flame war with this statement
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This is just a comparison and the truth la...do you expect to use the car for whole life?

Honestly i am not sure how good is the resales value for Korean Car like "Forte". They already have a history of bad resales value. This is depend also on the market demands.......

Just like our potong car had a bad quality history, but ppl still affordable because of low maintenance cost and cheaper monthly commitment. Of course if you have better budget you may choose "H","T" Or "VW" for better potong stim and not POTONG or KOREAN CAR.

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 19 2012, 02:58 PM)
bro, thats always a catch.

1st batch,

pro= better QC/material
cons= white mice.

the, being the first one with the car= priceless.

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Like mastercard advert laugh.gif I don't mind being the white mice though...provided my car don't go boom on me sweat.gif

QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 19 2012, 03:07 PM)
80% decided? Go for it and be the first few instant 'star'.
Q issue? Warranty will take care of that.
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What ruffstuff said did hit a chord though. What if there's a fundamental flaw in the design itself. Hmmm...Decision decisions. laugh.gif

QUOTE(xtjs @ Mar 19 2012, 03:19 PM)
funny i have never thought of a proton... but with this... might just consider.....

only thing is no leather seats
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No leather seat! Looks like will have to re-upholster the car leh. Damn mafan. Haih.

That wouldn't void the warranty though right?

Regarding the Japanese and Korean cars...would you really bother with the cars though? Honestly, it's like neither here nor there imho. Wanna say cheap...not really cheap. There was a discussion about how much the prices were jacked in the previous thread wasn't it? I mean, if you really wanna spend, might as well get a proper german.

And since there are some individuals who think the car maketh the man, might as well go for a bigger "wow"factor. Heh. My two pence worth.

I think if Proton screws up again this time round...very hard to get back the public approval. I see a lot of haters giving this P3 a chance. They had better get it right.
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 04:53 PM)
Like mastercard advert laugh.gif I don't mind being the white mice though...provided my car don't go boom on me sweat.gif
What ruffstuff said did hit a chord though. What if there's a fundamental flaw in the design itself. Hmmm...Decision decisions. laugh.gif
No leather seat! Looks like will have to re-upholster the car leh. Damn mafan. Haih.

That wouldn't void the warranty though right?

Regarding the Japanese and Korean cars...would you really bother with the cars though? Honestly, it's like neither here nor there imho. Wanna say cheap...not really cheap. There was a discussion about how much the prices were jacked in the previous thread wasn't it? I mean, if you really wanna spend, might as well get a proper german.

And since there are some individuals who think the car maketh the man, might as well go for a bigger "wow"factor. Heh. My two pence worth.

I think if Proton screws up again this time round...very hard to get back the public approval. I see a lot of haters giving this P3 a chance. They had better get it right.
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Feel disappointed after drop by P3-21a the Built up process for day 5 at the event.

Hopefully when the real car come out with promised.


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1st batch = good QC
1st batch = tikus makmal tongue.gif
1st batch = tumpuan mata org ramai brows.gif
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Booked the car just now for my wife..color yet to decide until we saw the car with our own eyes..took the CFE of course...


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Being among the first on the road with this car = priceless..lol

Felt it already when i got my own (new) car about 2 years ago..

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 03:30 PM)
kimchiboy coming...  grab my popcorn first...

but i think here... sure potongboy win...
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Toy lickers coming or not? oooo... nvm... they're here already tongue.gif
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QUOTE(izputra @ Mar 19 2012, 04:57 PM)
Booked the car just now for my wife..color yet to decide until we saw the car with our own eyes..took the CFE of course...

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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Mar 19 2012, 03:19 PM)
Its worth also if power windows rosak after 5 years with 10 years warranty. After 5 years replace with a new one and then it will take another years. Total up 10 years lifetime.

The most important is the resale value of the car. If you take Korean car, what if problem come  cry.gif  out after 5 years and you are unable to sell they car due to low resales value? correct me if i am not. Currently, i am not sure how is the resales value for Forte?
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I wont worry much. Coz its made here. If other brand, poor resale, niche model, parts is hardly available. End up rotten.
If its local (minus Waja 1.8, Juara and Tiara- Renault), no matter how doom the sales, the parts should be available, easier to get, and continue to abuse. A good workhorse. Still saw a few 80's saga run around town vs, say, 80 Corolla LE.
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 19 2012, 05:19 PM)
I wont worry much. Coz its made here. If other brand, poor resale, niche model, parts is hardly available. End up rotten.
If its local (minus Waja 1.8, Juara and Tiara- Renault), no matter how doom the sales, the parts should be available, easier to get, and continue to abuse. A good workhorse. Still saw a few 80's saga run around town vs, say, 80 Corolla LE.
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Haha, hard to say. Old saga is rebadged lancer as well, they can stand alot of abuse. The same cant be say for post-wira proton cars.
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QUOTE(kiapreve @ Mar 19 2012, 04:27 PM)
Yes, previously really hate proton, but the P3 spec really impressed me. I have place a booking earlier with color Fire red on 14th March at the showroom before went to Bkt Jalil Power Of 1 event.

Feel disappointed after drop by P3-21a the Built up process for day 5 at the event.

Hopefully when the real car come out with promised.
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I used to be very much against proton. Heh. Giving them a chance now. The specs for this P3/Preve is too good to pass up.

A lot of people prebooked liao. I also want!

Contemplation, contemplation laugh.gif

QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 19 2012, 05:19 PM)
I wont worry much. Coz its made here. If other brand, poor resale, niche model, parts is hardly available. End up rotten.
If its local (minus Waja 1.8, Juara and Tiara- Renault), no matter how doom the sales, the parts should be available, easier to get, and continue to abuse. A good workhorse. Still saw a few 80's saga run around town vs, say, 80 Corolla LE.
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QFT. My A6 is a big fan of my mechanic's workshop. Dunno go in and out how many times dy. Bloody hell but parts for Audis are hard to find. Need to go around find half cut cars for best price/part ratio sweat.gif

On the other hand, my old iswara is still kicking with gusto. May not be the most comfortable of rides, but hell, it gets me from Point A to Point B. Rosak oso much cheaper to fix. Parts easily available too. And not too much of downtime in the workshop while waiting for parts to arrive.

QUOTE(dares @ Mar 19 2012, 05:31 PM)
Haha, hard to say. Old saga is rebadged lancer as well, they can stand alot of abuse. The same cant be say for post-wira proton cars.
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Another QFT moment.


So, regarding re-upholstering the car...would that void Proton's warranty? Anyone care to shed some light?
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 19 2012, 05:19 PM)
I wont worry much. Coz its made here. If other brand, poor resale, niche model, parts is hardly available. End up rotten.
If its local (minus Waja 1.8, Juara and Tiara- Renault), no matter how doom the sales, the parts should be available, easier to get, and continue to abuse. A good workhorse. Still saw a few 80's saga run around town vs, say, 80 Corolla LE.
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80s saga still got alot in sabah here and very good condition...no black smoke whatsoever and power is still there
corolla also
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 19 2012, 02:08 PM)
Hmmmm...Read about the article as well. Don't have time to go and book liao sweat.gif

Still deciding between black or white. I like black. But reading the comments in the prev thread, lots of people say white will look much nicer. Just don't want to have the yellowing effect though. Or the constant need to wax as was mentioned by someone in the prev thread sweat.gif

So more inclined on black atm.
Lol. Want to teach others but...epic fail. Heh. Like the previous troll-wannabe who uses a car to measure success. I pity the fool. Are we that pathetic nowadays? We measure a man's success, prestige and worth by the car he drives??? WTH happened to our generation? Oh lord. I really feel sorry for them  doh.gif

ANYWAYS, worried because I'm afraid that there will be a sudden spike of people ordering and I have to delay getting the car. I'm kinda 80% decided on the car already. Would really love to test drive the car first though. But takut if wait too long delivery will take too long sweat.gif

Plus, I'm of the opinion that the early batch would be better qc-wise. Problems could easily be rectified via warranty.

I think. Feel free to correct me though laugh.gif

I'm putting my money on proton going all out to salvage their reputation. I used to be a hater. Untill I saw the specs of this car. Heh.
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dont get black...trust me you will cry use black car in malaysia cry.gif ...hard to maintain
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Mar 19 2012, 06:51 PM)
dont get black...trust me you will cry use black car in malaysia  cry.gif ...hard to maintain
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it only gets dirty easily only...any paint/colour nowadays also get dirty easy
on the other hand, white is the one that will make u cry..not only dirty easily but also need to wax every week to maintain the white since its not metallic paint
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Should have release a grey colour like the Kia Forte's. Hold it, just suggesting colours here whistling.gif
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Mar 19 2012, 06:51 PM)
dont get black...trust me you will cry use black car in malaysia  cry.gif ...hard to maintain
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but black is easy when the bumper got scratch..since the bumper itself is black..so it is not very obvious..
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 19 2012, 06:54 PM)
it only gets dirty easily only...any paint/colour nowadays also get dirty easy
on the other hand, white is the one that will make u cry..not only dirty easily but also need to wax every week to maintain the white since its not metallic paint
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White is not metallic paint? I am still considering black, white or fiery red color.
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So in the brochure it says the price range is going to be 60k - 70k, i reckon that's going to be the basic model?

Whereas the Premium specs ones, how much do u think they gonna be? around 80k?
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QUOTE(kiumo @ Mar 19 2012, 07:35 PM)
So in the brochure it says the price range is going to be 60k - 70k, i reckon that's going to be the basic model?

Whereas the Premium specs ones, how much do u think they gonna be? around 80k?
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62 to 75k...which is correct. 62k for langkawi model and 75k for premium model in kl.
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QUOTE(kiumo @ Mar 19 2012, 07:35 PM)
So in the brochure it says the price range is going to be 60k - 70k, i reckon that's going to be the basic model?

Whereas the Premium specs ones, how much do u think they gonna be? around 80k?
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 19 2012, 07:41 PM)
75,500 is the highest spec with all the whistles and bells
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will previous saga owners regret??...just wondering...no offense though
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wow... this thread so active... total preorder from lowyat user how much? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Jinster @ Mar 19 2012, 07:46 PM)
will previous saga owners regret??...just wondering...no offense though
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Saga is basic model. Targeting to different income group. If they can afford a 75k car, they might also bought a vios or city previously. Not a Saga.
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wonder if the color, elegant brown, nice or not... white, i have no time to wax. grey/silver maybe better.

fiery red not nice, i saw one flx se fiery red, look dull, if bright red, maybe better.

today plate number reach WWM6084

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 19 2012, 08:00 PM)
wonder if the color, elegant brown, nice or not... white, i have no time to wax. grey/silver maybe better.

fiery red not nice, i saw one flx se fiery red, look dull, if bright red, maybe better.

today plate number reach WWM6084
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All colors can be found in previous proton such as fiery red in FLX SE, elegant brown in Exora. The Blue lagon is the only new color. I think grey or white looks the best.
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just booked for elegant brown colour...
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 19 2012, 06:54 PM)
it only gets dirty easily only...any paint/colour nowadays also get dirty easy
on the other hand, white is the one that will make u cry..not only dirty easily but also need to wax every week to maintain the white since its not metallic paint
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u r totally incorrect, black is the hardest colour to maintain, i have both black and white cars. it's so easy to get dust stuck to the body, just a bit and u can see black colour turn into grey spots, u might need to wash the car every 2 - 3 days if the car wax has wore off. and black colour is the worst colour to have in a tropical country with hot weather, the car can easily get very hot even in mild temperature, half an hour under the afternoon sun will melt you, and it'll take quite a while to cool the car down with aircon. it's bad for the aircon system, it's bad for FC, it's bad for your health, it's bad for everything. the only redeeming feature of a black coloured car is it'll look good only.

white colour dust is not so easy to spot, i'm washing my white car once a week only in these unpredictable weather. the easiest colour to maintain is metallic grey

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Mar 19 2012, 08:08 PM)
u r totally incorrect, black is the hardest colour to maintain, i have both black and white cars.  it's so easy to get dust stuck to the body, just a bit and u can see black colour turn into grey spots, u might need to wash the car every 2 - 3 days if the car wax has wore off.  and black colour is the worst colour to have in a tropical country with hot weather, the car can easily get very hot even in mild temperature, half an hour under the afternoon sun will melt you, and it'll take quite a while to cool the car down with aircon.  it's bad for the aircon system, it's bad for FC, it's bad for your health, it's bad for everything.  the only redeeming feature of a black coloured car is it'll look good only.

white colour dust is not so easy to spot, i'm washing my white car once a week only in these unpredictable weather.  the easiest colour to maintain is metallic grey
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Remember those ae101, ae111 colour? Those colour can blend together wt dush.... Not noticeable at all... Lol
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 08:24 PM)
Remember those ae101, ae111 colour? Those colour can blend together wt dush....  Not noticeable at all... Lol
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yea, their sky blue is nice.
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QUOTE(Jinster @ Mar 19 2012, 07:46 PM)
will previous saga owners regret??...just wondering...no offense though
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Huh? totally different segment mang, RM20k difference at least.
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QUOTE(valence @ Mar 19 2012, 08:07 PM)
just booked for elegant brown colour...
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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Mar 19 2012, 08:08 PM)
u r totally incorrect, black is the hardest colour to maintain, i have both black and white cars.  it's so easy to get dust stuck to the body, just a bit and u can see black colour turn into grey spots, u might need to wash the car every 2 - 3 days if the car wax has wore off.  and black colour is the worst colour to have in a tropical country with hot weather, the car can easily get very hot even in mild temperature, half an hour under the afternoon sun will melt you, and it'll take quite a while to cool the car down with aircon.  it's bad for the aircon system, it's bad for FC, it's bad for your health, it's bad for everything.  the only redeeming feature of a black coloured car is it'll look good only.

white colour dust is not so easy to spot, i'm washing my white car once a week only in these unpredictable weather.  the easiest colour to maintain is metallic grey
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i have a black car myself
yes..it gets dusty easily
but at least its a metallic paint...u dn't need to wax it every week to keep its shine
i only wax my car every 3-4 month
white in another hand is not metallic paint..need to constantly wash it and wax it every week to keep its shine
for me..a trip to the car wash/ wash yourself is way easier than wash and wax every week
no doubt white look nice but sadly its not metallic paint


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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 08:24 PM)
Remember those ae101, ae111 colour? Those colour can blend together wt dush....  Not noticeable at all... Lol
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i would say old car's paint is better(old car mean the paint that they use last time)
car nowadays no matter what colour...gets dirty so easy...dn't know why
but car last time...no matter rain or dust..the car still look clean
my uncle have a corolla, didn't wash but look so clean...my dad's car also...waja...rain already still look ok
car nowadays ...once rain...look like just came back from crossing dirt road...its not the body that is dirty...its the bumper there only(front and rear)

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hmm, was it the paint job or the paint itself?

could it be that cars in the old days were treated with PPS?

hmm,if preve, was given 5yrs warranty, book 1st batch, also not bad, aiyo, should i get flx se or preve, 50k and 75k, affordability not an issue but i can save 25k for saga.

@Dares, was it possible to change the rear drum to disc brake? will it void the warranty and how much is the market price if can change.

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 19 2012, 09:24 PM)
i have a black car myself
yes..it gets dusty easily
but at least its a metallic paint...u dn't need to wax it every week to keep its shine
i only wax my car every 3-4 month
white in another hand is not metallic paint..need to constantly wash it and wax it every week to keep its shine
for me..a trip to the car wash/ wash yourself is way easier than wash and wax every week
no doubt white look nice but sadly its not metallic paint


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i would say old car's paint is better(old car mean the paint that they use last time)
car nowadays no matter what colour...gets dirty so easy...dn't know why
but car last time...no matter rain or dust..the car still look clean
my uncle have a corolla, didn't wash but look so clean...my dad's car also...waja...rain already still look ok
car nowadays ...once rain...look like just came back from crossing dirt road...its not the body that is dirty...its the bumper there only(front and rear)
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There are metallic whites, although I doubt Proton uses them.

@watonk: The Tiara is a Citroen AX.

@kiapreve: I usually drive a car until it collapses and it's not worth it fixing it again. But then again I try to get a proper one in the first place.

To be honest a cousin drives a VW... brand new, and parts of the interior have come down. I felt so embarrassed laugh.gif Any car can have problems.

In terms of price... compare Vios with Fiesta. Similar cars, with similar specs and prices in other countries. Here the prices are similar, but the Fiesta is better speced. A lot better. Especially in terms of safety. Better value for money.
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 19 2012, 09:59 PM)
@Dares, was it possible to change the rear drum to disc brake? will it void the warranty and how much is the market price if can change.
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Yes. Can change.

Definitely will void the warranty

RM600-800 depending on material used.
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Solid white is the best.
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Will poison my future wife to buy this car... whistling.gif
Then ask her used my saga... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 19 2012, 10:17 PM)
Yes. Can change.

Definitely will void the warranty

RM600-800 depending on material used.
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thanks for the info
then have to wait till warranty ended to get it changed.
is it per pair or only one pc?
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:22 PM)
thanks for the info
then have to wait till warranty ended to get it changed.
is it per pair or only one pc?
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whole conversion
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:21 PM)
Solid white is the best.
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i will say silver like the first page is the best biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 19 2012, 10:17 PM)
Yes. Can change.

Definitely will void the warranty

RM600-800 depending on material used.
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I tot all variant come wif disk brake...no? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 19 2012, 10:24 PM)
I tot all variant come wif disk brake...no?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 19 2012, 09:59 PM)
hmm, was it the paint job or the paint itself?

could it be that cars in the old days were treated with PPS?

hmm,if preve, was given 5yrs warranty, book 1st batch, also not bad, aiyo, should i get flx se or preve, 50k and 75k, affordability not an issue but i can save 25k for saga.

@Dares, was it possible to change the rear drum to disc brake? will it void the warranty and how much is the market price if can change.
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If got kids, then preve, if most of the time drive alone then saga.

Preve will make you easier to get girl, but saga will make you have more money to spend on girl. brows.gif

Happy Choosing..... rclxm9.gif
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the rear end design is like the clay model or the first post picture?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 19 2012, 10:26 PM)
he's asking bout the car in your avatar, bro.
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Sorry... notworthy.gif

btw Really meh <1K.. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(danabu @ Mar 19 2012, 10:27 PM)
If got kids, then preve, if most of the time drive alone then saga.

Preve will make you easier to get girl, but saga will make you have more money to spend on girl. brows.gif

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totally agree, if i were still in early 20s.
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 19 2012, 10:28 PM)
Sorry...  notworthy.gif

btw Really meh <1K..  hmm.gif

Where got?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:27 PM)
the rear end design is like the clay model or the first post picture?
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Of course like the first post pictures since those are final products. Maybe we can see similar rear end in future fl?
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Mar 19 2012, 10:28 PM)
Sorry...  notworthy.gif

btw Really meh <1K..  hmm.gif

Where got?  brows.gif
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This one, for example:

http://apulgarage.blogspot.com/2011/01/rea...r-saga-blm.html

I'm not vouching for this shop, this is just an example how much it will cost.
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Solid white not the best... But pearl white is the best...

Anybody plan to mod the car to be like this...

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erm, i head rumours about media preview earlier next week at undisclosed date n location :-).

Dunno whether will be any embargo@not, if not, then maybe an early review can be read@ just have to wait until launch.

Hoping for more positive than negative comments. Most importantly, be transparent n dont be afraid on commenting even been hated by some(in two perpective by the way).

Ha..ha..pity it is during weekdays. Quite bz.
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Khamil Jamil is the man now...
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v2? wow...
anyway, Azlan Othman interview with the journo.



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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 19 2012, 09:59 PM)
hmm, was it the paint job or the paint itself?

could it be that cars in the old days were treated with PPS?

hmm,if preve, was given 5yrs warranty, book 1st batch, also not bad, aiyo, should i get flx se or preve, 50k and 75k, affordability not an issue but i can save 25k for saga.

@Dares, was it possible to change the rear drum to disc brake? will it void the warranty and how much is the market price if can change.
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i think it was the paint itself...cheaper(maybe?)
proton now also offer 5 years warranty but it was 3+2..3 years warranty + 2 years extended warranty(depends on which insurance company)
and bear in mind...if u want that full 5 years warranty..u have to continuously service at proton SC in order to keep that warranty alive
many ppl will complain SC's labour fee expensive
for me..3 years is more than enough...if its gonna have problem...it would appear within the 1st year/1st 20000KM
if it ain't appearing in that 3 years...it ain't appearing soon...just service accordingly when u service outside thn its enough(change whats necessary, follow manual/receipt)
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new teaser, nothing much to see



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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 19 2012, 09:02 PM)
would love to see how it looks when its out

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should be same like FLX color.
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Mar 20 2012, 11:13 AM)
should be same like FLX color.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 19 2012, 10:55 PM)
Solid white not the best... But pearl white is the best...

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Quite agree..Solid white not easy to take care of...every dirt spot can be seen....I need to take care of my white car everyday. Washing and wiping and my wife also jealous I spend more time with the car than her cry.gif
The more shiny the white is, the hard it is to take care.

Those pearl white like Altis is more better is hiding dirt.

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I'm using blue haze waja cps. Just like persona se color and exora. Dirt almost cant be seen laugh.gif

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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 20 2012, 11:41 AM)
Quite agree..Solid white not easy to take care of...every dirt spot can be seen....I need to take care of my white car everyday. Washing and wiping and my wife also jealous  I spend more time with the car than her  cry.gif
The more shiny the white is, the hard it is to take care.

Those pearl white like Altis is more better is hiding dirt.
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thats why i very respect ppl who go buy white 308thp and SG it biggrin.gif they must wash car every 3 days like my kolik. lol. but white is the best color for it.
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do p321a have telescopic steering?

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 19 2012, 09:59 PM)
hmm, was it the paint job or the paint itself?

could it be that cars in the old days were treated with PPS?

hmm,if preve, was given 5yrs warranty, book 1st batch, also not bad, aiyo, should i get flx se or preve, 50k and 75k, affordability not an issue but i can save 25k for saga.

@Dares, was it possible to change the rear drum to disc brake? will it void the warranty and how much is the market price if can change.
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saga 1.6 flx is not bad. i tried the saga 1.3 with the cvt gearbox last week, it's way awesome compared to my saga with 4 spd auto.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 20 2012, 01:58 AM)
i think it was the paint itself...cheaper(maybe?)
proton now also offer 5 years warranty but it was 3+2..3 years warranty + 2 years extended warranty(depends on which insurance company)
and bear in mind...if u want that full 5 years warranty..u have to continuously service at proton SC in order to keep that warranty alive
many ppl will complain SC's labour fee expensive
for me..3 years is more than enough...if its gonna have problem...it would appear within the 1st year/1st 20000KM
if it ain't appearing in that 3 years...it ain't appearing soon...just service accordingly when u service outside thn its enough(change whats necessary, follow manual/receipt)
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i won't be bother about the paint. as long as park indoor and avoid places with cooking fumes, as it tend to get the car surface stick with dust.
you are right, 3yrs is more than enough, the sc labour fee, saw from proton website but didn't state labour fee separately.
if SC engineer dothe job well, i think still worth it.

just curious, other than SC, other workshop, are they able to service cars which is getting more advance?
or they did went for training in order to replace/service parts.

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Mar 19 2012, 08:08 PM)
u r totally incorrect, black is the hardest colour to maintain, i have both black and white cars.  it's so easy to get dust stuck to the body, just a bit and u can see black colour turn into grey spots, u might need to wash the car every 2 - 3 days if the car wax has wore off.  and black colour is the worst colour to have in a tropical country with hot weather, the car can easily get very hot even in mild temperature, half an hour under the afternoon sun will melt you, and it'll take quite a while to cool the car down with aircon.  it's bad for the aircon system, it's bad for FC, it's bad for your health, it's bad for everything.  the only redeeming feature of a black coloured car is it'll look good only.

white colour dust is not so easy to spot, i'm washing my white car once a week only in these unpredictable weather.  the easiest colour to maintain is metallic grey
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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 20 2012, 11:41 AM)
Quite agree..Solid white not easy to take care of...every dirt spot can be seen....I need to take care of my white car everyday. Washing and wiping and my wife also jealous  I spend more time with the car than her  cry.gif
The more shiny the white is, the hard it is to take care.

Those pearl white like Altis is more better is hiding dirt.
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I take it proton don't have the pearl white option?

What are people's thought on brown on the P3? Coz I think it looks quite nice on the Exora. The new top-of-the-line one.

Anyone rajin enough to render it on photoshop? brows.gif
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 20 2012, 01:27 PM)
i won't be bother about the paint. as long as park indoor and avoid places with cooking fumes, as it tend to get the car surface stick with dust.
you are right, 3yrs is more than enough, the sc labour fee, saw from proton website but didn't state labour fee separately.
if SC engineer dothe job well, i think still worth it.

just curious, other than SC, other workshop, are they able to service cars which is getting more advance?
or they did went for training in order to replace/service parts.
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dn't think so...learn themselves maybe
but for this newer gen proton....outside workshop are gonna have to buy themselves a unit of CVT oil changer if they want to do business
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I don't think much car have pearl white option.. for all this normal car.. pearl white is 1 of the most expansive paint compare to other..

like T.. u want Pearl white.. = extra $...
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 20 2012, 04:55 PM)
I don't think much car have pearl white option..  for all this normal car..  pearl white is 1 of the most expansive paint compare to other..

like T..  u want Pearl white.. = extra $...
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Toyota is actually offering Crystal White, dun think its Pearl White.
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Crystal White = beautiful name of Solid White

Just like "Taffeta White"
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What kind of white did Honda & Nissan used actually?
The one that used on civic, accord and sylphy.
Their white is more detail and clear than Proton. I wonder if Proton used some kind of cheap white or the color used to be like that only hmm.gif
Not to mention, Proton white color more easy to turn yellow
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 20 2012, 09:12 PM)
Crystal White = beautiful name of Solid White

Just like "Taffeta White"
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not sure the exact naming scheme but in workshop automotive painting field, that's how we name it.

Normal white, metallic or solid clear over based white.
Pearl white (yellowish after a while)
Crystalline white, the one on Toyota Camry and Toyota Altis.
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internal memo from proton marketing dept. 3500 units of p3-21a ready from soft launch until official launch..
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QUOTE(37867 @ Mar 20 2012, 09:45 PM)
3500 units? Wow selling like hot cakes
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3500 isnt all really
when distribute to different state...its actually not much for each state
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 20 2012, 01:27 PM)
i won't be bother about the paint. as long as park indoor and avoid places with cooking fumes, as it tend to get the car surface stick with dust.
you are right, 3yrs is more than enough, the sc labour fee, saw from proton website but didn't state labour fee separately.
if SC engineer dothe job well, i think still worth it.

just curious, other than SC, other workshop, are they able to service cars which is getting more advance?
or they did went for training in order to replace/service parts.
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Frankly I have the doubt about the same thing.
Proton SC technicians aren't very good at troubleshooting current models.Can they diagnose P3-21A with comes with a lot of mumbo jumbo's?
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QUOTE(marquis @ Mar 20 2012, 02:08 PM)


What are people's thought on brown on the P3? Coz I think it looks quite nice on the Exora. The new top-of-the-line one.


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Well..nowadays I'm quite fond of that color...brownish gold color...but looks better on bigger cars
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elegant brown colour for p3-21a will not be available yet during launch. whoever interested with this colour might need to wait. No ETA given.

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Mar 20 2012, 10:52 PM)
Frankly I have the doubt about the same thing.
Proton SC technicians aren't very good at troubleshooting current models.Can they diagnose P3-21A with comes with a lot of mumbo jumbo's?
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All the technicians already being sent for current models training.

Unless there is new issue arise, they will be able to solve it.
Else, emergency memo will be sent to all the service dealers and issue shall be rectified ASAP.

Proton Edar nowadays isn't like the one they used to be 10 years ago.
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QUOTE(johnjenin @ Mar 20 2012, 11:09 PM)
elegant brown colour for p3-21a will not be available yet during launch. whoever interested with this colour might need to wait. No ETA given.
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omg, then i whether wait 2nd batch or switch my color... cry.gif

QUOTE(allenultra @ Mar 20 2012, 11:28 PM)
All the technicians already being sent for current models training.

Unless there is new issue arise, they will be able to solve it.
Else, emergency memo will be sent to all the service dealers and issue shall be rectified ASAP.

Proton Edar nowadays isn't like the one they used to be 10 years ago.
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my friend's Exora cfe got problem, sent to sc and they are able to solve it, which caused by the valve in gearbox failure hmm.gif
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Of kos they'll be a quite number of technician that have been trained to handle this car.
But i think, the small SC might take a while. Just like Inspira case.
I remember at the 1st time i service my Inspira, there are only 1 person that know how to handle this car at SC that i goes (BB Selayang).
At that time, that person is on leave so i unable to ask any technical question about Inspira.
Since Proton expect sales number for this car will be better than Inspira, they really need to train their technician fast2.

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Mar 20 2012, 11:50 PM)
Of kos they'll be a quite number of technician that have been trained to handle this car.
But i think, the small SC might take a while. Just like Inspira case.
I remember at the 1st time i service my Inspira, there are only 1 person that know how to handle this car at SC that i goes (BB Selayang).
At that time, that person is on leave so i unable to ask any technical question about Inspira.
Since Proton expect sales number for this car will be better than Inspira, they really need to train their technician fast2.
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Usually only chief mechanic will be sent for training.

Sad to say in most Proton Edar service dealers, they don't have highly experienced mechanics.
They not being paid well here, most of the good one end up in other brand service centre....... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Mar 20 2012, 11:52 PM)
Usually only chief mechanic will be sent for training.

Sad to say in most Proton Edar service dealers, they don't have highly experienced mechanics.
They not being paid well here, most of the good one end up in other brand service centre.......  sweat.gif
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Well what to do. Proton pay high to their staff, they short of money for R&D later.
Proton can growth more fast if all smart Malaysian especially those who take engineering course masuk Proton.
But this group of people usually end up seek for company that can offer gooding salary which Proton can't really offer.
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Anyway, good technicians nowadays are hard to come by.

I'm looking for good technicians for my upcoming service centre too.

Those who are experienced, will open an outlet themselves.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 19 2012, 10:12 PM)
There are metallic whites, although I doubt Proton uses them.

@watonk: The Tiara is a Citroen AX.

@kiapreve: I usually drive a car until it collapses and it's not worth it fixing it again. But then again I try to get a proper one in the first place.

To be honest a cousin drives a VW... brand new, and parts of the interior have come down. I felt so embarrassed laugh.gif Any car can have problems.

In terms of price... compare Vios with Fiesta. Similar cars, with similar specs and prices in other countries. Here the prices are similar, but the Fiesta is better speced. A lot better. Especially in terms of safety. Better value for money.
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Actually proton got Pearl White (or somthing like that), they used to use it on Persona Elegence H-Line (which has been discontinued). It was beautiful.
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What kind of white have been used on accord and civic car?
I like their white. It seems the color more long lasting too. No? hmm.gif
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Those on the Honda is very bright, abit like peral effect so it could be pearl paint, that time my dad send the Accord for dent repairing, the painter say it is called 2K Paint.
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QUOTE(RattleSnaKe @ Mar 21 2012, 12:31 AM)
Those on the Honda is very bright, abit like peral effect so it could be pearl paint, that time my dad send the Accord for dent repairing, the painter say it is called 2K Paint.
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I wonder why Proton not used that kind of white.
Or is it only me that love those white that used in civic/accord compare to Proton one sweat.gif
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Most metallic paint r 2k paint.... The pearl white r not just Normal 2k...
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proton sell their solid white car at cheaper price, how do use metalic for your car? and look at the Alza pearl white, it is metalic but a bit yellowish
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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Mar 21 2012, 12:19 AM)
What kind of white have been used on accord and civic car?
I like their white. It seems the color more long lasting too. No?  hmm.gif
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pearl white..
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 20 2012, 02:40 AM)
new teaser, nothing much to see


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Is the circle hole at the rear seat for fuel pump just like in Waja?
If that's so, the fuel pump will be one of the major problem just like in Waja - overheated fuel pump causing fuel pump failure.

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QUOTE(PeowYong @ Mar 21 2012, 02:35 PM)
Is the circle hole at the rear seat for fuel pump just like in Waja?
If that's so, the fuel pump will be one of the major problem just like in Waja - overheated fuel pump causing fuel pump failure.
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Experience or hearsay?

Gen2, Persona, Satria Neo, Saga all have their fuel pumps in the same place.

Waja's fuel pump problem was the fuel pump, not where it was located. It's frequent failure was due to premature wear, crimped wiring or fuel pump relay (which is located in the dashboard) failure, not always because of overheat.

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 21 2012, 02:43 PM)
Experience or hearsay?

Gen2, Persona, Satria Neo, Saga all have their fuel pumps in the same place.

Waja's fuel pump problem was the fuel pump, not where it was located. It's frequent failure was due to premature wear, crimped wiring or fuel pump relay (which is located in the dashboard) failure, not always because of overheat.
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teaser lolx

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ooh see the dashboard what was the glossy part?
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i think should be some wood like plastic materials lol.. proton love to us them.. Seems tempting...
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Sterring look like civic hmm.gif
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that lcd looks a bit small..and it looks like it is just like a normal standard 2 din sized..which can fit any cars..i think more thiefs will aim for this kind of HU..
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those knob, hope not those cheap plastic..at least use those black hard plastic with glossy surface..

if they use magnesium also quite nice


Added on March 21, 2012, 7:56 pmthose knob, hope not those cheap plastic..at least use those black hard plastic with glossy surface..

if they use magnesium type also quite nice

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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 21 2012, 07:55 PM)
those knob, hope not those cheap plastic..at least use those black hard plastic with glossy surface..

if they use magnesium also quite nice


Added on March 21, 2012, 7:56 pmthose knob, hope not those cheap plastic..at least use those black hard plastic with glossy surface..

if they use magnesium type also quite nice
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Most probably not magnesium. Cmon this is 70k car. Not 140k car. But it is glossy finish.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 21 2012, 08:17 PM)
Most probably not magnesium. Cmon this is 70k car. Not 140k car.  But it is glossy finish.
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Sterring look like civic hmm.gif
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QUOTE(stargate8 @ Mar 21 2012, 07:55 PM)
those knob, hope not those cheap plastic..at least use those black hard plastic with glossy surface..

if they use magnesium also quite nice


Added on March 21, 2012, 7:56 pmthose knob, hope not those cheap plastic..at least use those black hard plastic with glossy surface..

if they use magnesium type also quite nice
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inside door handles and paddle shifters ARE magnesium..
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 21 2012, 10:02 PM)
yea it look liked civic or city steering   hmm.gif
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Or Insect steering. They look the same.

On a side note, the interior looks nice. Nothing earth shattering but not appaling either. Although Potong needs to stop using that hedious faux wood trim already. Matte brushed aluminium look is better IMHO.

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QUOTE(1212345656 @ Mar 21 2012, 10:14 PM)
inside door handles and paddle shifters ARE magnesium..
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even falali or lambo also dont have door handle of magnesium....

paddle shifter magnesium we all know what car has that, biggrin.gif

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I freaking hate those fake wood plastic not only in this car.. Any car... Especially this shiny type.... The Matt type of fake wood still better....
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heard that inner door handle also magnesium for the premium line. Dunno true or not. Same as black bezel centre dash. Maybe true or not. Dunno ...
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im so looking forward to this car being reviewed...

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post Mar 22 2012, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Mar 22 2012, 12:45 AM)
http://twitpic.com/8ze2l1

im so looking forward to this car being reviewed...
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some fag would say all those feature no use wan, vios/city better, more tahan lasak, then claim they drove 200000km no need service at all
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post Mar 22 2012, 01:34 AM

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price range 60-70k? the specs really good leh..so tempted to get one!
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post Mar 22 2012, 01:46 AM

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premium should be at 70K only not 75K. this will beat vios for sure.
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post Mar 22 2012, 01:56 AM

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Sigh...still got people complaint about the price
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post Mar 22 2012, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Mar 22 2012, 01:46 AM)
premium should be at 70K only not 75K. this will beat vios for sure.
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Change the logo, easily can reach 110k. Just because it is Proton, you expect it to be cheap.
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post Mar 22 2012, 08:48 AM

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if sell at sarawak not more than 80k, i will consider buying if also my dad willing to sponsor half biggrin.gif was thinking of getting myvi, but this car far more worth it... next time can use as family car when married biggrin.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Mar 22 2012, 03:05 AM)
Change the logo, easily can reach 110k.  Just because it is Proton, you expect it to be cheap.
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later lunch time u go to peugeot test drive 308thp, and then u wait for this proton preve to come out to test drive.

if you find preve to be better than 308thp( interior, quality,engine, power) , then preve can sell at 110k ( minus 8k from 118k, because preve dont have panaromic roof).

ok?
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post Mar 22 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 22 2012, 08:55 AM)
later lunch time u go to peugeot test drive 308thp, and then u wait for this proton preve to come out to test drive.

if you find preve to be better than 308thp( interior, quality,engine, power) , then preve can sell at 110k ( minus 8k from 118k, because preve dont have panaromic roof).

ok?
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Even it have sunroof, Proton can never sell on that pri