can we receive the signal in kajang or semenyih area? ... i have dvb-t tuner but cannot detect the channel... im afraid if my box is defect...

Hi .. I'm using LG Model SL90 LED TV (with built-in DVB-T tuner) and managed to receive the digital signal from RTM successfully.

Hi .. I'm using LG Model SL90 LED TV (with built-in DVB-T tuner) and managed to receive the digital signal from RTM  successfully.

The trick is to use samll antenna, the kind that look like the one installed on the top of the MyVi ...  :-)

Anyway, I lives next to Tesco Kajang.

Keep trying & Good Luck  ...

How is the quality of RTM2 (and other channels)? Are they really in HD,ie, 720 or 1080p? Or just somewhat better than analog?

I just realised by comparing Astro broadcast and RTM DVB broadcast, it appears RTM DVB can be BETTER quality! Why? NON Astro Beyond set top box connects to TV either by S-Video (best PQ) or the common analog yellow color RCA (fair PQ). This is the limitation of the old Astro decoder. Astro Beyond have HDMI which is ideal so far. Latest LCD TV's are doing away with S-Video input and that leaves the RCA socket only which limits PQ greatly and NO way you're gonna get HD PQ from old Astro decoder. RTM DVB-T is DIRECT broadcast and received by your latest DTV set, no cables, direct and as good as it gets. Its up to them if they want to provide HD transmission. DTV is the way to go, no more the old ills of analog broadcast PQ, i.e. interference noise, snow, raster, ghosting or fuzzy pictures.

One thing that just crossed my mind: What's the point of digital if the TV station only know how to screw shows over and cancel shows in the middle of a season?

Hi .. I'm using LG Model SL90 LED TV (with built-in DVB-T tuner) and managed to receive the digital signal from RTM  successfully.

The trick is to use samll antenna, the kind that look like the one installed on the top of the MyVi ...  :-)

Anyway, I lives next to Tesco Kajang.

Keep trying & Good Luck  ...

Why cant we use external antenna with booster? What is the reason we need to use small antenna?

BTW, what is the resolution currently RTM broadcast using DVB-T? Is it DVD resolution?

Please bear in mind, DTV broadcast is UNofficial transmission, say beta test run and its FOC. Viewers are subjected to their whim and fancy during this trial run.
There's 2 DTV channels, Channel 44 & 46. You've to align your antenna to receive these 2 signal band transmission. Align wrongly and either you get none or one channel.

Anyhow, have you managed to tune to RTM DVB-T Broadcast ?   

But you sure it's channel 44? Last I check the frequency moved to 549MHz. Or is that because I'm using boosted indoor antenna?

As for the other channel, my decoder can't find it. Is it DVB-T2?

Btw, my remark about how TV shows are cancelled mid-season refers to current analog stations like TV1 and NTV7.

Dear RAMChYLD, let me provide answer on behalf of bsl555.
A quick check on my DTV setting reveals the following:-
1. Ch 44 provides: Music Active, ILHAM & PANGGUNG
2. Ch 46 provides: TV1, TV2, TV-i, Games, EPG ++ Radios
Music Active, ILHAM & PANGGUNG were previously on channel 46.

Interesting to know that there is High Definition DVR arouund. It will be good if Media Prime is also embracing the same DVB-T system. I guesses we still have to wait & see as always.
Currently I'm still looking for DVR HD to enable me to record 1080i full HD football game from Astro byond decoder.
Any idea where I can secure one ?  Ignoring the Astro PVR, for cost cutting.
Thanks

What different between analog tv with digital tv?

What hardware to setup digital tv?

The easiest way is to inspect its detail specification and look for the word built-in TUNER. Nowdays in Malaysia, if you can find word DVB-T then you are lucky. Iit is a Digital TV. Without built-in digital tuner, you can still receive the digital transmission provided you have an external tuner or set-top box (currently not available in Malaysia), that process the signal, turn it into Audio/Video and deliver it to TV screen via HDMI cable.

And.... they can sell external DVB-T set top box (STB) seperately... eventhough the TV hhas the DVB-T capability. Extra $$$ man..

Was wondering if Digital TV signal is available somewhere outside Selangor & KL?

Not that I am aware of.  Currently RTM is testing it's DVB-T broadcast via KL tower's transmition.  I can pick up the signal from my house in Cheras, but unfotunately the signal wasn't really strong, my reception quality is kind of poor.

Anyway I run a channel scan an hour ago, found out that they are testing HD channel named 'RTM HD'

The 'RTM HD' does not seem to simulcast with RTM1 nor RTM2 but rather playing some local music videos. 

you can only receive digital TV in KL area (RTM test broadcast), or Johor (singapore TV)

you will need a DVB-T tuner and normal UHF antenna

can anyone confirm whether everywhere in KL can get the signal? anyone had experience in sg besi? how can we confirm this since tuner will cost a few hundreds rm. i'm trying to free myself from astro and no luck with normal analog signal

There is no issue DVBT 1 or 2 because its about their signal compression at their station. But the problem is about mpeg2 and mpeg 4 on your tuner. Now they using mpeg2 and will turn to mpeg4. For HD Sinergi channel they set up tv platform and test transmitt via sd before they plug in the real hd encoder then they will transmit direct hd 720p. i want to see olympic london and hope they will test and take direct hd to sinergi channel like olyimpic china. all we need is get the hd decoder/tuner mpeg4.

There is no issue DVBT 1 or 2 because its about their signal compression at their station. But the problem is about mpeg2 and mpeg 4 on your tuner. Now they using mpeg2 and will turn to mpeg4. For HD Sinergi channel they set up tv platform and test transmitt via sd before they plug in the real hd encoder then they will transmit direct hd 720p. i want to see olympic london and hope they will test and take direct hd to sinergi channel like olyimpic china. all we need is get the hd decoder/tuner mpeg4.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/12051745-post2.html

This thread pretty much confirms my suspicions.

DVB-T tuners are not forward compatible with T2.

Thing is, up until now, RTM has been doing HD in T1 (something Singapore, Australia and New Zealand is doing). But now, they planning to go completely T2 and shut off T1.

Is it already confirmed?

If u are using dvbt tuner now when malaysia broadcaster launch the digital broadcasting using dvbt2, u will not be able receive the digital signal like now.

Idk, but smanszy said that it would happen, right? 
I'm trying to point out what kaspersky-fan said in a later post is wrong- T1 tuners can never receive T2 signals because it's more than codec changed- the transmission layer has also changed. T1 tuners do not recognize LDPC+BCH FEC (they only recognize Convolutional Coding + Solomon-Reed), and should have problem detecting the signal because the continual pilot (I presume is a pilot tone used by the tuner for locking) also changed.

Ah, okay. Sorry for misunderstanding.

I think RTM HD went down for a while oredi. My TV has never detected said channel since day 1.

Scanning with my pctv dvb-t2 tuner

so far only saw these channels..

Somebody should pressure Media Prima to use same DVB-T1/T2 system as RTM one.  

Sec-gen lauds Japanese reps for helpful digital tips

KUALA LUMPUR: The Japanese experience is useful to Malaysia especially when it comes to broadcasting technology.

Commending representatives from the Japanese government, Malaysia's Information, Communications and Culture secretary-general Datuk Seri Kamaruddin Siaraf said the counterparts were very helpful when sharing their thoughts on the matter.

“We were briefed by our partners in Japan who switched from analogue to digital last year.

“Their experiences were very much needed and will help us in our migration in the future,” he told reporters on Wednesday after the two-day Asean + 3 Senior Officials Meeting Respon-sible for Information (SOMRI) held here.

Malaysia is phasing out analogue television broadcast in favour of digital broadcast. TV stations are expected to stop analogue TV broadcast by 2015 and go fully digital by the year 2020.

“This is a very important contribution from Japan,” Kamaruddin said.

Singapore Minister Calls For Common Specifications For DVB-T2 Receivers For Asean

SINGAPORE, March 1 (Bernama) -- Asean should develop common specifications for the DVB-T2 (Digital Video Broadcasting - Second Generation Terrestrial)receivers so that equipment manufacturers can benefit from economies of scale.

In making the call, Senior Minister of State for Information, Communications and the Arts, Grace Fu Hai Yien said this in turn will lower the cost of set-top boxes for consumers.

"With digital broadcasting promising to provide the public with better viewing experiences, we also need to ensure that Asean content remains engaging to our audiences.

"More can be done to promote co-productions of high-definition content among producers in Asean. We can leverage on each other's strengths and develop content that appeals to the Asean sensibility as well as international audiences," she said in her address the 11th Conference of Asean Ministers Responsible for Information (AMRI) and associated meetings in Kuala Lumpur.

The text of her speech was made available here.

Fu said last year, Singapore announced it was studying the feasibility of adopting the DVB-T2 standard for Digital Terrestrial Television.

"I am pleased to inform you that we have successfully completed the trial for the DVB-T2 standard and are looking into its nationwide implementation.

"We expect to offer high-definition broadcasting for all Free-to-Air TV channels in Singapore," she said.

Fu also said that she was glad to learn that some Asean members, namely Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar and Vietnam, have also decided to leapfrog to DVB-T2.

She also pointed out the Asian Development Bank will embark on the joint production of "Colours of ASEAN", a television series in High Definition (HD) that is expected for completion by December 2013.

She said Asean should support such collaborations and encourage the grouping's broadcasters to work together and continue participating in meaningful projects that celebrate the unity within Asean's diversity.

Such partnerships, she said will also give broadcasters an additional platform to learn from each other and enhance their production expertise.

Fu suggested that Asean can similarly explore creative and strategic partnerships between public and private broadcasters, content producers and government agencies. -- BERNAMA

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...2322&sec=nation
Hmm...

Thanks for the update....not even reported in local papers, sometimes it's all talk no action  .....will keep an eye on this....

Government already forgot it? THought so.    

http://www.facebook.com/penerangan

Oh god, hope they don't delay sumore to "trial" ISDB-T also.

Just like the gomen, even flip-flop of using new digital tv signal.    

Hope they don't even consider it. Because ISDB-T allow the use of CAM cards like assteruk.

See, in Japan, they still have TV license requirement. So their gomen use CAM card to potong those who dun renew their lesen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-CAS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Se...ting#B-CAS_Card

If MCMC choose this system, then surely they considering reimplementing lesen TV?

If to reconsider how many profit will be make...

Found an interesting documentation by MTSFB regarding standards for the Free-To-Air Digital TV Transmission:

- now they stated DVB-T2 as standard.
- note that the last page showing the committee which basically cover major TV content providers, chair by RTM and follow by Media Prima.

http://tinyurl.com/7t2sbmf

In order to help consumers understand whether a particular display is ready for HDTV, HD-ready label and Full HD labels can only be attached to displays sold and used in Malaysia if they meet the recognized international standards that govern the usage of these logos.

Hmm... Still wondering when will SD channel on Astro and Media Prima turned both digital and in MPEG4.

Document contains a lot of struck out info and use of obsolete tech like PSTN (56k modem) and ISDN

Overly ambitious caused the project to stagnate for so long?

Hmmm, CI... not good. That's a CAM card system used by some European countries. Just added recently sumore.

So gomen thinking of somehow making a Lesen TV system again... No wonder considering ISDB also...

As for Hbb TV, I think not feasible. If you're in a small town, say, Mersing or one of the kampung in Tioman- how to get broadband?

Some high end LCD TVs have DVB-T option/module. But, I cannot find any model which has built-in DVB-T tuner, in Malaysia.

Yes, RTM starts DVB-T broadcast officially in 2012, and yes 2015, all TV broadcasts will be on digital. By the time, DVB-T2 or T3 will be the standard.

Brunei Darussalam baru pada Juni 2014, Malaysia Desember 2015, serta Singapura, Thailand dan Filipina juga serentak pada 2015.

So, for LCD TV & LED TV who doesn't have DVB-T/DVB-T2 tuner (also older CRT TV), need gov. to provide some STB.

The Philips 6000 series LED TV comes with built-in DVB-TC tuner

http://www.philips.com.my/c/televisions/60...fl6606h_12/prd/

P.S: Possiblity the emas channel (Media Prima channel on Unifi) would be available FTA on digital tv signal?  

Sigh... u know why? Singapore T2 testing is also encrypted...

Got these last night, still visiting Sg. Have a look:

RTM HD

By going digital, the players will need to migrate to a different band, which requires new infrastructure.

60 firms said to have taken documents to bid for digital terrestrial TV

PETALING JAYA: About 60 companies are said to have collected documents to bid for the digital terrestrial television (DTT) service that would involve the buildup of a common integrated infrastructure for all the free-to-air TV stations to migrate to provide digital TV nationwide.

Those in the know claim that most of the big boys in the telecoms sector such as Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™, Maxis Bhd, Celcom Axiata Bhd, YTL Communications, Puncak Semangat Sdn Bhd and several vendors and suppliers had collected the documents in late-April. Most had also attended a briefing last month conducted by the industry regulator, Malaysian Communications & Multimedia Commission (MCMC).

Several local companies have partnered foreign players to tap technical expertise and the bidders have till 12pm on July 24 to make their submissions.

Celcom is working with Broadcast Australia for its bid while Puncak has New Zealand's Kordia as its technical partner.

It is believed that only a third will make their submissions, but there is also talk that some of the players may form a consortium to make a joint bid.

Players like TM, Puncak and Celcom are keen to take on the project, as most of transmission towers are owned by TM, RTM and Celcom.

However, one setback that some players see is the need for them to provide the set top boxes which is a costly affair and had hoped for some subsidy from the Government. With digital TV, users will need a set top box to unscramble the signals for viewing.

However, it is clearly stipulated in the tender documents that the parties will have to fund the entire project and the winner will not be able to charge more for transmission services as the free-to-air players will pay existing rates.

“It is a bit tough for some to make money in the initial years as the upfront cost is high,'' said an industry player.

The whole DTT or DTTB (digital terrestrial TV broadcasting as some countries call it) is for the free-to-air channels to migrate to a digital format to offer digital TV, HD TV and other related TV services including mobile and pay TV.

The winner will have to design, build, own and operate the infrastructure for DTT fixed TV reception services, comprising the transmission, network facilities and the Digital Multimedia Broadcasting Hub.

“For economies of scale in the Malaysian market, it is envisaged that a common integrated infrastructure provider approach will be taken to maximise operational efficiency such as infrastructure sharing, bandwidth sharing and possibly use of common platform for customer management,'' the document said.

The frequency bands allocated for DTT are from 174 MHZ to 230 MHz and 470 MHz to 742 MHz.

Even though the bands have been specified, there is a consideration to re-stack the channels to below 698Mhz, meaning that the 700Mhz band could be free up for mobile service.

Many of the mobile service providers are hoping to land a slice of the controversial 700Mhz spectrum band for their mobility and broadcasting solutions.

The analogue TV switch-off date has been set at the end of 2015 but the entire migration journey will probably be completed by 2020.

Typical Malaysian outcome. Delay switch off again to 2020 XD

FAIL!

Last year, I went to Broadcast Asia-2011 in Singapore. I scanned the DVB-T frequencies using my old USB DVB-T PCTV 340e, and I got several Singaporean DVB-T channels. I did the scanning at Johor Baharu, near the Tambak Johor. I also able to grab the EPG lists.

There was 720-test channel, but,  I cannot view it. I think this is the T2 new format broadcast. At the Broadcas Asia 2011, I saw DVB-T2 related booths every where. So, most probably, Malaysia will go for the T2.

Here is the latest channels.conf for Malaysian's DVB-T broadcasts. Unfortunately, I don't know why I cannot grab EPG lists.....

There was 720-test channel, but,  I cannot view it. I think this is the T2 new format broadcast. At the Broadcas Asia 2011, I saw DVB-T2 related booths every where. smile.gif So, most probably, Malaysia will go for the T2.

RTM only, eh? other tv station are too lazy using DVB-T/T2 kah?