VW Golf 1.4TSI,Scirocco1.4,Polo 1.2TSI available in Malaysia

Volkswagen Polo 1.2TSI: (2010 World Car of the Year)

Engine : 1.2L 4 cylinder turbo
Power : 105PS@5000rpm
Torque : 175Nm@1550rpm
Top Speed : 190km/h
0-100kph : 9.7sec
Fuel Consumption : 5.3L/100km
Price : RM109,000
http://paultan.org/2010/08/09/volkswagen-p...i-dsg-malaysia/

Volkswagen Golf 1.4TSI (2009 World Car of the Year with 2009 & 2010 Engine of the Year)

Engine : 1.4L 4 cylinder, Twincharged (Turbocharged and supercharged)
Power : 160PS@5800rpm
Torque : 240Nm@1500rpm
Top Speed : 220km/h
0-100km/h : 8 secs
Price : RM148,888 & RM155,888
Fuel Consumption : 6.0L/100km
http://paultan.org/2010/08/09/volkswagen-g...60-ps-rm155888/

Volkswagen Scirocco 1.4TSI (with 2009 & 2010 Engine of the Year)

Engine : 1.4L 4 cylinder, Twincharged (Turbocharged and supercharged)
Power : 160PS@5800rpm
Torque : 240Nm@1500rpm
Top Speed : 218km/h
0-100km/h : 8 secs
Fuel Consumption : 6.3L/100km
Price : RM188,888
http://paultan.org/2010/08/09/volkswagen-s...60-ps-rm188888/

all three equipped with new 7 speed DSG gearbox

Golf 1.4TSI Test drive by paultan
http://paultan.org/2010/09/15/volkswagen-g...t-drive-review/


Polo 1.2TSI Test drive by paultan
http://paultan.org/2010/10/18/volkswagen-p...st-impressions/


This post has been edited by phas3r: Dec 17 2010, 09:27 PM

scirocco still looks better though
too bad it is a 2 car door

Polo is affordable

why scricco is rated at 218kmh top speed while golf with the same engine gets 220kmh

This post has been edited by xshiro: Aug 9 2010, 03:27 AM

i wonder that too. both cars have the same weight of 1360kg. but i guess not important la, 2 kph only. shouldn't the roc be more aerodynamic anyway?

no polo gti?

yeah, i'm still waiting for polo gti, golf r and scirocco r.
i'm sure it will be on sale here, it's just a matter of time.

i've got an odd feeling that the polo 1.2 won't sell well here...........

I love scirocco's design.

a very rare car in malaysia

it's currently the most powerful car in its class.. am i right ? 175Nm too

This post has been edited by phas3r: Aug 9 2010, 04:32 AM

im thinking again, maybe different gear ratio

only 2kmph difference, why would the engineers change the gear ratios just for this? it's not cost effective. should be the aerodynamics, one is for high speed cruising (and also fuel efficiency due to more slippery body) the other more on handling

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Aug 9 2010, 06:32 AM

yeah. spotted a few before

but my guess is, 1.2L car for very close to RM110k.....

maybe its just me

I wonder how's the FC of the Polo.. Price is interesting..

i didnt expect VW polo pricing anywhere near rm100k. interesting, i might buy polo when i got married

oh mai..the polo is damn affordable

polo is cheap, srsly dirt cheap...

100k is a good reason to switch from any other sub 100k japanese cars to this.

Nice! seems like polo is very nicely well priced.

well of course if it priced a few thousands below 100k, it will be selling like hot cakes!!

CBU or CKD?

from the fact sheet it say 5.3l/100km (18+km/l) mix urban/suburb... very good actually
beats my 08 City VTEC at 15km/l

If only got diesel version..

well... Polo has the same max torque as Civic/Altis 1.8 but starting at 1.5k rpm... price just a few RM from Altis 1.8E... but one's VW the other's Toyota...

FC wise... 1.2 vs 1.8? road tax also cheaper... some more 6 air bags...

Have been tested-drive the Golf before, the performance is fantastic, just the interior space is small.

OMG...so sexy..huhu

This post has been edited by shamsul_LP: Aug 9 2010, 10:00 AM

Direct Injections, Arghhh~~!!!!!@#$!!!

The Schirocco & Golf is still expensive, Golf is as expensive as 308 GT.

DSG are also super expensive!

ok. lets get to work. work hard for my 'rocco

Good move VW Malaysia !

But got supercharger & turbocharger. The last car that has both is Nissan March Superturbo.

for a 1.4litre and 156k, this is i think one of the cars in the market which you pay the least import tax


anyways, for those who are contemplating

mind you, service costs is not that cheap
i have a vw on it's second year service now(service interval is 15k km)
30k km, the bill came close to about a thousand

i tested the golf gti... the performance... my God... i tried to step the pedal for overtaking during the test drive and i was like holy fffffff... i didn't even step half of the pedal and the car was like accelerating like a jet! the 6 speed dsg changes from 2k rpm to 4k rpm in a sec!

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Added on August 9, 2010, 10:20 amif you compare it with a jap... 3 times service at 5k km interval... european is just slightly more expensive only right?

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Aug 9 2010, 10:20 AM

compare polo 1.2 TSI with honda jazz..u'll realize juz how overpriced that jap mini is...VW trump over honda anytime!

U beat me to the punch ....the polo should be compared to the jazz/i30/latio sport/pug 308 vti warm hatch class......for the price, the specs are great plus its a german car .....

Polo and Golf, what are the differences other that the engines?

overprice...sad...

Reason to buy a Honda Jazz now has gone.

Read VW webpage and spot the difference from every angle... http://my.volkswagen.com/

exclude 308 as it's a C-segment... Polo is B-segment, add Mazda 2, Fiesta, Swift sports, Swift, Yaris

i'm actually comparing swift sports with polo

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Aug 9 2010, 02:22 PM

take polo then, swift sport (too many fake) around and VW commands a higher brand value than suzuki

who can resist 7 speed DSG la.

those who always think IF the gearbox broke down will cost a fortune to repair

15k km normal oil change is about RM500
then the next 15k km(30k km) come close to RM1k
next 15k km(45k km) IIRC it's about RM800
on the 60k km, the bill is RM2.6k
the 75k km one will be more, i dont know how much yet

total service costs for 4 years(assume you stick to the 15k km interval) is about RM5k, not inclusive of other stuffs such as wipers, tires and brake pads.
the total service and parts costs for my VW over the last two years came close to about RM500x3 +RM1k +RM350 =~ RM2.9k

oh, i service my car every 7.5k km, instead of 15k km

i can safely assume that your maintenance for this car will costs you about RM100-200/month

yea lo,thats why my uncle until now still driving manual gear, instead of auto. Auto easy to spoil, i heard this from 8 years old to 28 years old

but now i heard 7 speed DSG got problem....seems like pug AL4 not too bad after all.

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This post has been edited by stinger82: Aug 10 2010, 11:09 AM

AFAIK, the maintenance of a direct injection engine is more expensive than injection engine. The same also for DSG compared with normal AT tranny.

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This post has been edited by stinger82: Aug 10 2010, 11:09 AM

You all know how there's a saying "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it".

Well, I should add another line here.. "If you are worried about the maintenance, don't bother buying it".

Save yourself the trouble. Go buy Proton. You don't need to worry about maintenance.. just replacement.. hahahhaa..

yes, but that's for the 1.4litre TSI used in the polo, golf's safe

for 100k km, should be about 8k-9k, i didnt bother asking about the price, cuz it will take me aeons to reach there, and by the 5th year, warranty habis, i'll service it outside already

you're wrong
for eg:
the Aisin 6speed auto used in certain VW's uses Aisin's own ATF, costs RM112/litre, overall replacement of ATF costs RM1.2k(include other parts also)
their own DSG fluid costs RM9x/litre, overall replacement costs? RM650

previously the TSI engine used in the older GTis burns engine oil to function well, a hard driven GTi requires 1litre of engine oil top up every 3k km or so(each litre costs RM68 and THAT cannot be purchased outside, it's a specially formulated castrol for VW cars, and if they found out that you uses non-castrol engine oil? *poof* goes your engine warranty )

new one im not very sure

The Scirocco is nice.

+999 ..why worry about maintenance if you can afford it..you bought a car bcoz you like it and bcoz you like it you should maintain it..

now the golf price is more reasonable
maybe I'll book one

You have 5 years warranty for the car ... if anything should happen to the DSG ... you're still covered ... after 5 years it's probably time to sell the car anyway

same goes for those worrying about its FC

the Golf is sweet.. Scirocco a bit out of my budget so gonna aim for the Golf

thanks for your reply beach boy, a reply from owner is better than nonsense from those who doesnt own the car, and come to fark. A rich man that can afford the car sounds more sensible than those fanboy that can afford nothing but dreaming. Even ferrari owner talks about maintenance, you buy a car to drive, not to fix and put in garage to stay overnight. Thats why Toyota is number 1 in the world. and mitsu almost bankrupt.

This post has been edited by stinger82: Aug 19 2010, 09:17 AM

did you missed the turbo part? or did you mean malaysians will overlook that? the 308 turbo sells well here.
hope the gahmen don't realize that manufacturers are using the force induction route to escape the tax.
in german they tax cars based on power not cc

yes it goes, is that mk5 or mk6 you testing? this 1.4TSI should have respectable performance too

i heard from the reviews that the polo offers luxury car refinement and good quality. we'll check that car later. still waiting for poloGTI though

u have mk5 gti? is it ? i never topup any engine oil, just following the 15k interval woo . is it ok?

i tested mk6, my uncle as an mk5 but 1.6fsi... sluggish...
welll 175Nm torque at 1.5k rpm is very good indeed

polo gti should be using the 1.4 twincharge engine (from the RM157k golf) if not mistaken...

They're going the turbo/supercharger route because of the strict Euro emission standard as well. Even Proton is going turbo so just pray gomen won't change their policy.

That line applies to anything that you purchase. It could a thousand ringgit shoe or a ten thousand ringgit Prada bag. If you can afford it, you won't ask for the price. You just pick it up, bring it to the cashier and pay for it. If the money that you earned is legal, you'd whip out a fancy platinum card and pay for it. If the money is illegal, you'd whip out a money holder with a bundle of cash to pay for it. Hhahahahhahaha....

Even proton gearbox cost over 10K brand new. Hence there's plenty of recon proton gearboxes out there that you can find to replace. Therefore they don't need to worry about getting new gearboxes. Most people don't have problems with gearboxes, esp when they are maintained properly. A lot of auto drivers change the oil but not the AT gearbox filter.

Like I said, if you are going to buy a 200K car and worry about the gearbox breaking down, then don't bother getting the car. Go buy a Proton. Thousands of recon gearboxes waiting for you.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Aug 10 2010, 10:34 AM

LOL.. it basically applies to every car, be it Proton or VW. Well.. here in Malaysia only la... If you take away the Polo's tax and what's not, it's possibly priced like a Viva.

Seriously though.. I think someone driving a 50k car may not even be able to afford changing their gearbox.

Hmm... I would think that people are going bankrupt due to car loan is because
- they bought a car they couldn't afford to keep paying for
- they bought a car they couldn't afford to maintain

Technically, without a credit card, you can still survive with just min payment but that's not the case for vehicles where you can't pay min and they usually repossess after a few months.

haha

This post has been edited by stinger82: Aug 10 2010, 11:07 AM

lol. indeed the 1.6L from golf is just too slow for anything. needs smaller engine with the aided of turbo like this 1.4TSI.

the polo gti is 1.4 with twincharged, but produce more output (180PS 249Nm) compared to the golf 1.4 TSI (160PS 240Nm)
on a small car summore the acceleration match a golf gti's time of 6.9secs

how do you think of the sport and comfort button on mk6?

This post has been edited by phas3r: Aug 10 2010, 03:40 PM

i was too busy enjoying the 280Nm torque, didn't play with the buttons
that guy taught me how to use the paddle shifts but i think it's unnecessary because no way the paddle shift can match the DSG's response...

erm, the paddle shifter is still controlled by the same transmission DSG, i don't really get you mean here
it is useful if say i'm cruising on 6th gear, but want some overtaking power, i just press the downshift button and it goes to 5th gear immedietly.
up to you if you want the DSG to do all the work, but there are times when i need to control the gear manually.

hahaha, sorry, i meant my fingers
the DSG is super responsive that's why i am wondering why the need for paddle shifts...
i was cruising at 6 when i wanted to overtake, i just tapped the accelerator and the gear shifted to 3rd immediately! instantaneous power... geng

DSG shifts fast and smooth, but which gear it will go still depends on the driver
with paddle shifter, you can control which gear you want to go to

no wonder you dont feel anything that is not right when i mentioned that why there arent any manual override function in Fiesta's dual clutch transmission

Wondered when the GTI & Scirocco will get the 7 speed DSG. Now it seems this latest (dry type) 7 speed DSG is limited to torque up to 250nm

torque difference is because the latest engine is 1.4 twincharged... the gti and 2.0 scirocco have more torque because they are 2.0 turbocharged, nothing to do with the DSG right?

I think you got it wrongly.

Both the Scirocco Sport (previously known as Scirocco) & GTI with 2.0 TSI engine is using 6-speed DSG, not the 7-speed DSG. The reason is the 7-speed DSG (at this moment) cannot handle the 280 nm of torque.

Please google it.

danm........

hi guys, should i cancel the order of Peugeot 308 and go for VW polo instead?
and wondering about the FC, build quality (tested 308, quality and handling is superb), service cost....
which should go??

This post has been edited by JAYworm: Aug 11 2010, 11:25 AM

probably not a good idea.. since the polo is a smaller car than the 308.

the size of 308 isnt great too... so polo is even worst??? but actually this shouldn't be any problem since most the time only 2 person (driver and 1 passenger).

depends on what you want... Polo is B segment, 308 is C segment... i'm a VW fan so i'll definitely go for VW if i have the money...

now headache whether to get Vios E at RM900+ per month or squeeze a bit and get the Polo at RM1200+ per month...

polo's rear seat is only meant for shorter distance, it's not spacious, but if you only fetch 1 person most of the time, you dont see much difference, apart from being more narrow

take in consideration of depreciation, parts availability, service costs as well
good thing about a vios is, most workshops out there can and know how to fix one
i cant say the same about VWs

i don't care about depreciation cos i'm not changing my car if i go european... also... it's a VW... what to change to?

service wise is 15000km... should be pretty much similar to Vios 3 x 5000km...

spare parts might be a problem... just don't bang or anything like that... engine and other internal parts should last longer than japs... by right it should unless i got a defect car

service center wise... my uncle has a VW too, maybe i can consider taking a drive down to Singapore every half a year, do some visiting, makan and at the same time service

upgrade to another VW

mechanical parts can be found from the SC
body parts yes it's hard to find

a pair of side mirror costs 1.4kRM IIRC

actually... thinking of that also... golf, scirocco and passat cc memang appealing...

camry backlight is RM600 per side also

golf's tailight LED one pair 3.2k

between pug 308 and the new polo, I'd say better do the test drive first. If possible back to back on the same morning. Then only you decide.

For me, no need test drive, I'll always choose VW, anytime

that's my one month's salary...

yes, it's on display in the Wearne's service center in sungai besi

anyhow, the new Golf's accepting booking now, plenty of candy whites available

same same
but if the polo was not launched here... maybe the 308... since it's launched, no 2nd thoughts, Polo!

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Added on August 11, 2010, 3:20 pmyeah, i got a call from the PJ SA 1 day before paul released the prices

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Aug 11 2010, 03:20 PM

is the polo on display?

polo gti 1.4tsi @ rm130,000. bring it pls .

show model arriving sept 10

there is a New Polo hidden in the basement at Lrg Maarof Bangsar VW. go there and have a look. its a manual with baseline features.

the new polo gti is worth every sen & RM
they're coming soon

Edit: Mistake

This post has been edited by xDjWanNabex: Aug 12 2010, 10:37 AM

seriously tough choice then... polo gti has 10Nm more torque than the golf...
but i reckon the price of the polo gti would be around RM140k... should be very near the golf...

if you aren't into moonroof but more to dsg and fc and stuffs like that, think you might be better off with a polo... yes it is smaller but 308 isn't that big either...
308 as a different kind of appeal larr... think the interior wise, 308 is still better than polo... i don't have the option like you had but for me, i am not a speeder (occasionally sure got wan larr) so interior quality has more appeal to me... so it is what rocks your boat bro...
but for a vw, don't think you can go wrong larr... anyway dsg also has its fair share of problems...
also 3.2k salary, probably better go for lesser priced car... not sure if you could get full 90% loan... good luck bro...

The 308 is significantly larger than the Polo.

The Polo is a typical B-segment but unlike the spacious Jazz it's pretty tiny inside. Think something along the lines of Mazda 2 and you're not far off.

As for money... For a gross RM3200 salary, it's advisable not to go for a 140K car. You'll spend the next decade paying through the roof.

Polo 1.2T vs Pug 308 1.6T.
In terms of power and size,308 wins hands down.but when it comes to maintenance and aftersales services VW is much better,IMHO.

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Added on August 11, 2010, 6:54 pmGet the polo GTI,then you can smoke them all ekekeke...

This post has been edited by Alcip: Aug 11 2010, 06:54 PM

i heard the new polo gti is rather disappointing....from alot of reviews...

my advice, do the road test first. then tell me whether you disappointed or not..

from where? i've seen only the autocar video.

after watching 5th gear on the Scirocco, and its price in the UK, things here are ->

price of scirocco should be the same as golf. scirocco is taxed more here because it's a sports car... wtf? imagine scirocco at rm155k

well, a RM110k with 9 years loan at 3.5% is just RM1.2k per month... with the 1/3 bank rule, definitely someone with no commitments and RM3.2k salary can afford it

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Added on August 12, 2010, 9:26 amcheckout the dimensions... Polo and Jazz is just a few cm from each other... this is where the headache comes in... price is the same, Polo has full leather, 1.2 turbocharged engine, fuel economy and full leather... what does the Jazz give you?

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Aug 12 2010, 09:26 AM