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post Aug 9 2010, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 9 2010, 07:30 AM)
I wonder how's the FC of the Polo.. Price is interesting..
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from the fact sheet it say 5.3l/100km (18+km/l) mix urban/suburb... very good actually tongue.gif
beats my 08 City VTEC at 15km/l tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Aug 9 2010, 06:42 AM)
but my guess is, 1.2L car for very close to RM110k.....

maybe its just me
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well... Polo has the same max torque as Civic/Altis 1.8 but starting at 1.5k rpm... price just a few RM from Altis 1.8E... but one's VW the other's Toyota...

FC wise... 1.2 vs 1.8? road tax also cheaper... some more 6 air bags...
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QUOTE(hosiery2u @ Aug 9 2010, 09:55 AM)
Have been tested-drive the Golf before, the performance is fantastic, just the interior space is small.
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i tested the golf gti... the performance... my God... i tried to step the pedal for overtaking during the test drive and i was like holy fffffff... i didn't even step half of the pedal and the car was like accelerating like a jet! the 6 speed dsg changes from 2k rpm to 4k rpm in a sec!


Added on August 9, 2010, 10:20 am
QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 9 2010, 10:09 AM)
for a 1.4litre and 156k, this is i think one of the cars in the market which you pay the least import tax
anyways, for those who are contemplating

mind you, service costs is not that cheap
i have a vw on it's second year service now(service interval is 15k km)
30k km, the bill came close to about a thousand
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if you compare it with a jap... 3 times service at 5k km interval... european is just slightly more expensive only right?

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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Aug 9 2010, 12:27 PM)
U beat me to the punch  tongue.gif ....the polo should be compared to the jazz/i30/latio sport/pug 308 vti warm hatch class......for the price, the specs are great plus its a german car .....
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exclude 308 as it's a C-segment... Polo is B-segment, add Mazda 2, Fiesta, Swift sports, Swift, Yaris smile.gif

i'm actually comparing swift sports with polo rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 9 2010, 11:55 PM)
yes it goes, is that mk5 or mk6 you testing? this 1.4TSI should have respectable performance too
i heard from the reviews that the polo offers luxury car refinement and good quality. we'll check that car later. still waiting for poloGTI though
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i tested mk6, my uncle as an mk5 but 1.6fsi... sluggish...
welll 175Nm torque at 1.5k rpm is very good indeed smile.gif

polo gti should be using the 1.4 twincharge engine (from the RM157k golf) if not mistaken...
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 10 2010, 03:38 PM)
lol. indeed the 1.6L from golf is just too slow for anything. needs smaller engine with the aided of turbo like this 1.4TSI.

the polo gti is 1.4 with twincharged, but produce more output (180PS 249Nm) compared to the golf 1.4 TSI (160PS 240Nm)
on a small car summore  drool.gif the acceleration match a golf gti's time of 6.9secs

how do you think of the sport and comfort button on mk6?
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i was too busy enjoying the 280Nm torque, didn't play with the buttons tongue.gif
that guy taught me how to use the paddle shifts but i think it's unnecessary because no way the paddle shift can match the DSG's response...
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 10 2010, 05:08 PM)
erm, the paddle shifter is still controlled by the same transmission DSG, i don't really get you mean here  rclxub.gif
it is useful if say i'm cruising on 6th gear, but want some overtaking power, i just press the downshift button and it goes to 5th gear immedietly.
up to you if you want the DSG to do all the work, but there are times when i need to control the gear manually.
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hahaha, sorry, i meant my fingers tongue.gif
the DSG is super responsive that's why i am wondering why the need for paddle shifts...
i was cruising at 6 when i wanted to overtake, i just tapped the accelerator and the gear shifted to 3rd immediately! instantaneous power... geng rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(ben83 @ Aug 10 2010, 09:38 PM)
Wondered when the GTI & Scirocco will get the 7 speed DSG. Now it seems this latest (dry type) 7 speed DSG is limited to torque up to 250nm
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torque difference is because the latest engine is 1.4 twincharged... the gti and 2.0 scirocco have more torque because they are 2.0 turbocharged, nothing to do with the DSG right? doh.gif
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depends on what you want... Polo is B segment, 308 is C segment... i'm a VW fan so i'll definitely go for VW if i have the money...

now headache whether to get Vios E at RM900+ per month or squeeze a bit and get the Polo at RM1200+ per month...
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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 11 2010, 01:49 PM)
take in consideration of depreciation, parts availability, service costs as well
good thing about a vios is, most workshops out there can and know how to fix one
i cant say the same about VWs
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i don't care about depreciation cos i'm not changing my car if i go european... also... it's a VW... what to change to?

service wise is 15000km... should be pretty much similar to Vios 3 x 5000km...

spare parts might be a problem... just don't bang or anything like that... engine and other internal parts should last longer than japs... by right it should unless i got a defect car tongue.gif

service center wise... my uncle has a VW too, maybe i can consider taking a drive down to Singapore every half a year, do some visiting, makan and at the same time service tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 11 2010, 02:40 PM)
upgrade to another VW tongue.gif

mechanical parts can be found from the SC
body parts yes it's hard to find

a pair of side mirror costs 1.4kRM IIRC
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actually... thinking of that also... golf, scirocco and passat cc memang appealing...

camry backlight is RM600 per side also tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 11 2010, 03:02 PM)
golf's tailight LED one pair 3.2k tongue.gif
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that's my one month's salary...
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QUOTE(supercharger @ Aug 11 2010, 03:13 PM)
between pug 308 and the new polo, I'd say better do the test drive first. If possible back to back on the same morning. Then only you decide.

For me, no need test drive, I'll always choose VW, anytime smile.gif
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same same tongue.gif
but if the polo was not launched here... maybe the 308... since it's launched, no 2nd thoughts, Polo! rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Aug 11 2010, 03:19 PM)
yes, it's on display in the Wearne's service center in sungai besi tongue.gif

anyhow, the new Golf's accepting booking now, plenty of candy whites available smile.gif
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yeah, i got a call from the PJ SA 1 day before paul released the prices tongue.gif

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QUOTE(musclemass @ Aug 11 2010, 03:32 PM)
is the polo on display?
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show model arriving sept 10
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QUOTE(supercharger @ Aug 11 2010, 04:17 PM)
the new polo gti is worth every sen & RM
they're coming soon
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seriously tough choice then... polo gti has 10Nm more torque than the golf...
but i reckon the price of the polo gti would be around RM140k... should be very near the golf...
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QUOTE(mavericksam @ Aug 11 2010, 06:15 PM)
if you aren't into moonroof but more to dsg and fc and stuffs like that, think you might be better off with a polo... yes it is smaller but 308 isn't that big either...
308 as a different kind of appeal larr... think the interior wise, 308 is still better than polo... i don't have the option like you had but for me, i am not a speeder (occasionally sure got wan larr) so interior quality has more appeal to me... so it is what rocks your boat bro...
but for a vw, don't think you can go wrong larr... anyway dsg also has its fair share of problems...
also 3.2k salary, probably better go for lesser priced car... not sure if you could get full 90% loan... good luck bro...
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well, a RM110k with 9 years loan at 3.5% is just RM1.2k per month... with the 1/3 bank rule, definitely someone with no commitments and RM3.2k salary can afford it tongue.gif


Added on August 12, 2010, 9:26 am
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 11 2010, 06:44 PM)
The 308 is significantly larger than the Polo.

The Polo is a typical B-segment but unlike the spacious Jazz it's pretty tiny inside. Think something along the lines of Mazda 2 and you're not far off.

As for money... For a gross RM3200 salary, it's advisable not to go for a 140K car. You'll spend the next decade paying through the roof.
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checkout the dimensions... Polo and Jazz is just a few cm from each other... this is where the headache comes in... price is the same, Polo has full leather, 1.2 turbocharged engine, fuel economy and full leather... what does the Jazz give you? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Aug 12 2010, 09:47 AM)
CVT V-Tec/I-dsi.  laugh.gif
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deng... now only got i-VTEC with 5 speed auto ler tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 12 2010, 10:59 AM)
Ah can't wait to test drive the Golf 1.4TSI as well. Very tempted to place a booking now but would want to qualm my fears about the car and have a test drive on it.

Anyone else is interested in the car?
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interested in VW since mk5 but not willing to spend more than 100k for a car... that's why the Polo is soooooo tempting... its 110k, fffff tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 12 2010, 11:16 AM)
Yeah the Polo is nice as well but I sat in one before (not the new version) and I found it to be quite cramped (I am rather large tongue.gif). I test drove the Golf GTI Mk6 several times already and I really love that car. Contemplating whether I should save up for the Mk6 instead of the 1.4
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the previous polo is really small the new one, think Jazz smile.gif

i tested the mk6 also, love the torque rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(chuakz @ Aug 12 2010, 01:12 PM)
even the latest top gear mag's hot hatch tests section said that it didnt really live up to expectations...it does look really good though...but i'd rather get a mito if its in the 150k price range....if 130k...then its damn worth it....
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http://www.autoitalia.com.my/mito_spec.asp
http://paultan.org/2010/08/09/volkswagen-g...60-ps-rm155888/
golf 1.4 twincharge pawns mito in terms of engine... mito is priced almost 2k cheaper than golf...

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