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post Jun 22 2008, 07:55 PM, updated 17y ago

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as per topic...

planning to get deuter hiking bag..


any recommendation???

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QUOTE(whtan @ Nov 20 2009, 09:34 AM)
hmm.. i use to have a deuter. Real small one, futara 22 AC.

However, lately i plan to go for some trip which may take me 1-2weeks time. think to get another one, but then only i find out there is lot of brands out there!! any backpakers here can share some information on the bag and how to choose a correct one?
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ermm.. garage selling what... u can try campbell or tearproof...

sungai wang a lot also...
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post Jun 22 2008, 11:53 PM

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u can find plenty of models in midvalley jusco rclxms.gif

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post Jun 23 2008, 09:04 AM

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at those shops can bargain???
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post Jun 23 2008, 10:39 AM

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check it out at Robinson Gardens mid valley. I just bought 1 there. Got 60% off.
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post Jun 23 2008, 03:33 PM

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60% today still got? which floor? wanna check it out
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60%? wow...what models did you get?
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post Jun 24 2008, 11:40 AM

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Pertama Complex, Kedai Beg Yoon Hin.

Madam Sia is the owner, and she's great at giving advices, and stuff. Just bought my 45+10L ACT Lite last weekend, at rm330 only.

Of course it's original...
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post Jun 26 2008, 07:05 AM

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Hi...I would advise you against buying a Deuter brand backpack here in Malaysia. The reason is that the newer models are almost 80% replica in the market. They are NOT fakes but what is called replicas. The difference?
Replicas copies exactly like the original models, even the xippers and materials are the same. Difference is that they cut short on the number of stitches, the internal material like cushioning and lesser quality accesories like buckles. You'd almost never be able to differentiate the replicas from the original ones.
I know this because I deal with a local supplier in KL that distributes these replicas.

My opinion, go for brands that are not DEUTER. I will not suggest any brand coz people may think that I am being biased then. In any case, I do most of my backpack shopping in Singapore.


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post Jun 30 2008, 12:33 PM

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@Keong,

But i did my research, deuter bags are purchased directly from Vietnam (the factory), and our sole distributor is UFL.

From UFL, we have many small small direct seller (liek madam sia) who buys from them, and then sell it to us. If like this case, how to know it's not original?

I've bought one from singapore last year, and another one recently from pertama complex. From my observation, it feels the same (weight, quality, and material). But of course i could be blinded by the brand itself.

Any help from pros?
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post Jun 30 2008, 01:33 PM

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i've got mine from pertama complex (is a karimor 60L) quite good place for bargaining. call of 20-40% of discounts for a start (different bags have different discount given). friendly shopkeeper and aproachable too.

as for deuter was my first luv at sight. there UFL just begining of this year they have sales going and they have the greatest deal. i am newbie of sort, my ideal rucksak was to get the accesible compartment, some rain or tear proof and last but not least the comfort of feasible carriage with few 10kgs behind my back.

if it wasn't urgent, i'd suggest a search out for deals with quality of course...lol...otherwise pertama complex is a good place to pay visit with. =)

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QUOTE(evee_luca @ Jun 30 2008, 12:33 PM)
@Keong,

But i did my research, deuter bags are purchased directly from Vietnam (the factory), and our sole distributor is UFL.

From UFL, we have many small small direct seller (liek madam sia) who buys from them, and then sell it to us. If like this case, how to know it's not original?

I've bought one from singapore last year, and another one recently from pertama complex. From my observation, it feels the same (weight, quality, and material). But of course i could be blinded by the brand itself.

Any help from pros?
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Hi Eeve...

Thanks for your reply. Good to know that you have done your research. That's very good.

I know at least one of the factory in Vietnam that makes backpack. I even spoke to the owner of the factory before. You see...the factories in Vietnam is finding it hard to survive just depending on companies like Deuter or Karrimor for orders. There are many factories in Vietnam. So...to make ends meet, they have to produce replicas. I know its difficult to see the difference. Its almost 99% same. But the differences lies in the quality of the sticthings, the buckles etc. The buckles may still be Deuter but you can see a lot of imperfection in it.

Then again, I may be wrong. But I can tell you that I am a backpack collector. I have a room full with backpacks. I am starting to slowly sell them now. I buy them new from the internet, buy them from my foreign travelling trips, exchanges, fela markets...you name it. But one thing I will never have in my collection is a fake! A replica is still okay but never a fake.

I am starting a blog on used items, it will later include backpacks as well. My blog at the below link.

http://www.bandel-used-clothing.blogspot.com/

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post Jul 1 2008, 12:21 PM

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@Keong,

Thanks for the compliment smile.gif

I don't buy fakes as well, as i think that having a high quality backpack that is sure not to fail on you while traveling is very very important.

So, you're basically more knowledgeble that me on backpacks, i should listen to you then, hehe.

I'm looking to add in another backpack in my collection as well, see if we could arrange for something in the future..
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QUOTE(evee_luca @ Jul 1 2008, 12:21 PM)
@Keong,

Thanks for the compliment smile.gif

I don't buy fakes as well, as i think that having a high quality backpack that is sure not to fail on you while traveling is very very important.

So, you're basically more knowledgeble that me on backpacks, i should listen to you then, hehe.

I'm looking to add in another backpack in my collection as well, see if we could arrange for something in the future..
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Hi Evee...

Coolest...now I know I have a kaki smile.gif
I dare not say that I know a lot. Just that its my interest and also it is part of my work. So...in a way you can say that I have to know blush.gif

What pack are you interested in? Brand, design, size, origin?
I may not have the pack you are looking for but I think I can suggest something for you smile.gif

Perhaps I should put up some posts about backpacks on my blog. What do you think?

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post Jul 2 2008, 01:23 PM

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@Keong,

What pack? well, not much that i know of, but the normal deuter/karrimor packs for traveling / hiking / short trips.

Prefer the uk vintage karrimors, but it's very expensive, and i doubt any veterans would want to sell theirs.

Already have a 30-L, 45+10L, now looking for a 55L one. I'm pretty universal on the design, but no gobi for me, hehe.

Yeahh, i really think you should educate us more on the backpacks at your blog. And maybe post up some of your collections as well..
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QUOTE(evee_luca @ Jul 2 2008, 01:23 PM)
@Keong,

What pack? well, not much that i know of, but the normal deuter/karrimor packs for traveling / hiking / short trips.

Prefer the uk vintage karrimors, but it's very expensive, and i doubt any veterans would want to sell theirs.

Already have a 30-L, 45+10L, now looking for a 55L one. I'm pretty universal on the design, but no gobi for me, hehe.

Yeahh, i really think you should educate us more on the backpacks at your blog. And maybe post up some of your collections as well..
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actually u can still find the karrimor UK in Malaysia,but only the used one.u can try at Gunung online,a forum dedicated to hiking and outdoors sport.one of my fav karrimor is Condor..very hard to find here.if i'm not mistaken,the Condor is used by Malaysian Everest team during their expedition.
if u want the robust and high quality from karrimor,maybe u can try to look for karrimorsf(sf stand for special forces),its made by pri uk.
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there is a shop at time square .. not sure the name , but its near ALook shop

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post Aug 2 2008, 02:13 PM

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hi..i;m selling Deuter backpack by online...you can refer to my signature below...it is 100% original..
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post Aug 3 2008, 08:44 PM

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JUsco in Midvalley selling it for 50% off. cheap bargain. go check it out.!
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@Keong

given that your the guru here, do advice me on where i should start out in search for a backpack (im skewed towards a deuter tongue.gif ).

What shops should i go to? Or its better buying off online?

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post Aug 25 2008, 04:10 AM

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@Keong

Since Singapore is cheaper... Roughly by cheap by how much???? RM100?
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@Keong

Since Singapore is cheaper... Roughly by cheap by how much???? RM100?
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Hi Felice...

You can expect anything between 30 to 50% cheaper than the prices you'd get in Malaysia. Furthermor, you can get more choices than Malaysia.

Honestly speaking, do not get too caught up with brands. Deuter is good but there are other brands that are good (some even better). Singapore has many brands to offer and most importantly you need to be able to wear and test the fitting of the pack. Not just buy the pack.

Happy bag hunting!


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@Keong

Do you mind PM me which brand is better as your experience and opinion wise.
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jun 26 2008, 07:05 AM)
Hi...I would advise you against buying a Deuter brand backpack here in Malaysia. The reason is that the newer models are almost 80% replica in the market. They are NOT fakes but what is called replicas. The difference?
Replicas copies exactly like the original models, even the xippers and materials are the same. Difference is that they cut short on the number of stitches, the internal material like cushioning and lesser quality accesories like buckles. You'd almost never be able to differentiate the replicas from the original ones.
I know this because I deal with a local supplier in KL that distributes these replicas.

My opinion, go for brands that are not DEUTER. I will not suggest any brand coz people may think that I am being biased then. In any case, I do most of my backpack shopping in Singapore.
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Hi Keong,

I m a newbie in these backpack stuff. I m looking for a daypack to move around in the city (office, gym). Any recommendation?

Thanks
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Hi Keong

Any hiking bag to recommend on the below requirement?
- Jungle trekking activity
- Can hold my Canon S5 camera (Not SLR camera)
- Water proof
- As compact as possible
- Can contain drinking water for jungle half-marathon activity

Thanks
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@keong..
where is the best place in singapore to find good bags with great deals??
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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Sep 15 2008, 03:46 AM)
Hi Keong

Any hiking bag to recommend on the below requirement?
- Jungle trekking activity
- Can hold my Canon S5 camera (Not SLR camera)
- Water proof
- As compact as possible
- Can contain drinking water for jungle half-marathon activity

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H Authur...

First of all...anybody claiming to sell you a waterproof backpack in Malaysia is either a cheat or someone who is trying to rip you off.
There are no 100% waterproof backpacks. Certainly not in Malaysia. For fully waterproof carriers, you should look for dry bags.
There is a brand that I was told recently makes really good waterproof packs. The brand is Arc'teryx but they are sooooo expensive. You can only get them at Camper's Corner in Singapore. Be prepared to pay anything around RM800 to RM1500 for a pack!

My suggestion would be for you to try on a few models. Think about what things you are going to carry and see if the pack you like is big enough. If its ngam-ngam, get a bigger one.
Once you have your backpack, you go get a dry bag. The dry bag is for your water sensitive gear like digital cameras, ipods etc.

Most packs these days comes with hydration sleeve for your water bladders. No problem.

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QUOTE(Keong @ Sep 19 2008, 05:18 PM)
H Authur...

First of all...anybody claiming to sell you a waterproof backpack in Malaysia is either a cheat or someone who is trying to rip you off.
There are no 100% waterproof backpacks. Certainly not in Malaysia. For fully waterproof carriers, you should look for dry bags.
There is a brand that I was told recently makes really good waterproof packs. The brand is Arc'teryx but they are sooooo expensive. You can only get them at Camper's Corner in Singapore. Be prepared to pay anything around RM800 to RM1500 for a pack!

My suggestion would be for you to try on a few models. Think about what things you are going to carry and see if the pack you like is big enough. If its ngam-ngam, get a bigger one.
Once you have your backpack, you go get a dry bag. The dry bag is for your water sensitive gear like digital cameras, ipods etc.

Most packs these days comes with hydration sleeve for your water bladders. No problem.

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Hi Keong

Thanks for the suggestion.

Any idea where I can get the bag which you had just described?

Cheers


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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Sep 24 2008, 02:26 AM)
Hi Keong

Thanks for the suggestion.

Any idea where I can get the bag which you had just described?

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Found the bag that can fulfill the requirement which is located in Tearproof shop at KLCC or MidValley.
Brand Name = Vertical
- Jungle trekking activity [Compact style]
- Can hold my Canon S5 camera (Not SLR camera) [Got compartment to store the camera]
- Water proof [Got bag's rain coat]
- As compact as possible [Ok la.. can consider compact]
- Can contain drinking water for jungle half-marathon activity [Got bladder bag holder]



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dig up old thread.. where's the cheapest place to buy Deuter backpack?

i heard there's this annual Mega Sale where deuter bags have crazy promotions until ppl go there fight for the bag.. izzit got this sale???
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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 1 2009, 10:44 PM)
dig up old thread.. where's the cheapest place to buy Deuter backpack?

i heard there's this annual Mega Sale where deuter bags have crazy promotions until ppl go there fight for the bag.. izzit got this sale???
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Cheap can sometimes mean they are fakes or replica. If that is what you are looking for, you can try mudah.com.my

If originals is what you are looking for, consider shops like Tear Proof, but be prepared to pay extra as well.

I was told Mdm Siah / Seah at Pertama Complex offers good packs at reasonable prices (I am not related to her in anyway!).

Last but not least, why not consider other brands than just Deuters? There are so many other good brands in the market.

Good luck!
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QUOTE(Keong @ Aug 2 2009, 04:18 PM)
Cheap can sometimes mean they are fakes or replica. If that is what you are looking for, you can try mudah.com.my

If originals is what you are looking for, consider shops like Tear Proof, but be prepared to pay extra as well.

I was told Mdm Siah / Seah at Pertama Complex offers good packs at reasonable prices (I am not related to her in anyway!).

Last but not least, why not consider other brands than just Deuters? There are so many other good brands in the market.

Good luck!
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thanks for the advise.. i did found some Deuter 65+10 at only RM150!! definitely a fake one..

have u personally bought any backpacks from this Mdm Siah? shop name?

how about UFL chain stores? they did sell Deuter but i'm not sure they're the cheapest around..

if not wrong, Deuter is the more affordable branded bag from all other brands.. izzit?
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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 2 2009, 07:53 PM)
thanks for the advise.. i did found some Deuter 65+10 at only RM150!! definitely a fake one..

have u personally bought any backpacks from this Mdm Siah? shop name?

how about UFL chain stores? they did sell Deuter but i'm not sure they're the cheapest around..

if not wrong, Deuter is the more affordable branded bag from all other brands.. izzit?
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i bought my Deuter AirContact 65+10 2009 model at RM530, which would be the cheapest around town, at Mdm Siah there...
for the old AirContact 65+10, u might be getting at around RM490, depends on ur luck...
and RM150 for a 65+10 is definitely fake... no doubt...

and yeap, i personally bought from Mdm Siah... the shop name i can't recall.. but it's very easy to locate 1...
from Pertama Complex the entrance beside Maybank ATM machine, which near to the foodcourt...
u go in, then turn left on the 1st turning on ur left... then turn right on the 1st turning on ur right... u will see a sportshop selling some badminton stuff, with a jersey with Lee Chong Wei's signature on it...

Mdm Siah's shop is just beside that shop... very easy to spot, cuz the shop is fullllllllll of bags... i mean REALLY FULL...

UFL chain sometimes will have discount on Deuter bags, but maximum 20%... u can get 30% from Mdm Siah there anytime...
and UFL is the official distributor of Deuter bags in Malaysia... they supply the stocks to Mdm Siah...

Hmm... Deuter is kinda affordable for its quality... i saw some in Tear Proof, the quality really not really good IMO...
if u have the budget, why not go for Karrimor? from wut i heard, Karrimor is better... not sure about North Face tho...

when my Deuter is spoilt, which will take ages, i will get a Karrimor that time... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(saru88 @ Aug 3 2009, 02:29 AM)
i bought my Deuter AirContact 65+10 2009 model at RM530, which would be the cheapest around town, at Mdm Siah there...
for the old AirContact 65+10, u might be getting at around RM490, depends on ur luck...
and RM150 for a 65+10 is definitely fake... no doubt...

and yeap, i personally bought from Mdm Siah... the shop name i can't recall.. but it's very easy to locate 1...
from Pertama Complex the entrance beside Maybank ATM machine, which near to the foodcourt...
u go in, then turn left on the 1st turning on ur left... then turn right on the 1st turning on ur right... u will see a sportshop selling some badminton stuff, with a jersey with Lee Chong Wei's signature on it...

Mdm Siah's shop is just beside that shop... very easy to spot, cuz the shop is fullllllllll of bags... i mean REALLY FULL...

UFL chain sometimes will have discount on Deuter bags, but maximum 20%... u can get 30% from Mdm Siah there anytime...
and UFL is the official distributor of Deuter bags in Malaysia... they supply the stocks to Mdm Siah...

Hmm... Deuter is kinda affordable for its quality... i saw some in Tear Proof, the quality really not really good IMO...
if u have the budget, why not go for Karrimor? from wut i heard, Karrimor is better... not sure about North Face tho...

when my Deuter is spoilt, which will take ages, i will get a Karrimor that time... tongue.gif
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thanks for the guide to mdm siah shop! looks like the shop very famous! thumbup.gif maybe will pay a visit sometime this month.. so weird no one gets the shop of the name though sweat.gif

yeah i heard of this Karrimor also, definitely will be more expensive rclxub.gif but since i'm not going to hardcore-use my backpack i guess deuter is more than enuf to last me 10-15years..
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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 2 2009, 07:53 PM)
thanks for the advise.. i did found some Deuter 65+10 at only RM150!! definitely a fake one..

have u personally bought any backpacks from this Mdm Siah? shop name?

how about UFL chain stores? they did sell Deuter but i'm not sure they're the cheapest around..

if not wrong, Deuter is the more affordable branded bag from all other brands.. izzit?
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RM150. That it expensive lor. I brought it for RM100 only. He..... brows.gif


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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 3 2009, 08:57 PM)
thanks for the guide to mdm siah shop! looks like the shop very famous! thumbup.gif maybe will pay a visit sometime this month.. so weird no one gets the shop of the name though sweat.gif

yeah i heard of this Karrimor also, definitely will be more expensive rclxub.gif but since i'm not going to hardcore-use my backpack i guess deuter is more than enuf to last me 10-15years..
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haha... yeah... i got her namecard, but i din know where i put it... juz very easy so spot, dun worry...

Even u use a deuter quite often, it will still last for 10-15 years i think... whatever it is, wut u pay is wut u get...
with the price u r paying, there muz be certain standard of quality in that product... dun doubt it...

my uncle bought a Lafuma back in the 70s, and surprisingly he is still using his Lafuma... it's more than 30 years old!!
he trashes his backpack alot... the bag is dirty, with some small holes here n there... but the bag is still alive n kicking...

i dun think nowadays those products will be as long lasting as the old ones... i heard Lafuma's quality has dropped...

anywayz dude, 65+10 is oredy more than enuff for u... if u really can really stuff it full, i dun think u can easily carry it...
dat time my gf's 50+10 was totally full... it was winter, need to bring some thick clothes like trenchcoat n some jackets...
when checked in, the backpack was around 13kg of weight...
and it was freaking heavy even when i carried it...

so imagine la if 65+10 is full... how would it be? if u r small size like me, confirm GG.com... biggrin.gif

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RM150. That it expensive lor. I brought it for RM100 only. He..... brows.gif
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u got urs 100 bucks? i saw 70 bucks only in Thailand... u got pwn lor... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(saru88 @ Aug 4 2009, 04:26 AM)
u got urs 100 bucks? i saw 70 bucks only in Thailand... u got pwn lor...  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(saru88 @ Aug 4 2009, 04:26 AM)
haha... yeah... i got her namecard, but i din know where i put it... juz very easy so spot, dun worry...

Even u use a deuter quite often, it will still last for 10-15 years i think... whatever it is, wut u pay is wut u get...
with the price u r paying, there muz be certain standard of quality in that product... dun doubt it...

my uncle bought a Lafuma back in the 70s, and surprisingly he is still using his Lafuma... it's more than 30 years old!!
he trashes his backpack alot... the bag is dirty, with some small holes here n there... but the bag is still alive n kicking...

i dun think nowadays those products will be as long lasting as the old ones... i heard Lafuma's quality has dropped...

anywayz dude, 65+10 is oredy more than enuff for u... if u really can really stuff it full, i dun think u can easily carry it...
dat time my gf's 50+10 was totally full... it was winter, need to bring some thick clothes like trenchcoat n some jackets...
when checked in, the backpack was around 13kg of weight...
and it was freaking heavy even when i carried it...

so imagine la if 65+10 is full... how would it be? if u r small size like me, confirm GG.com...  biggrin.gif
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Can last that long? My original deuter cost RM380 already show defect just 5yrs. All the waterproof material decompose and break it in small pcs. Make the bag dirty.

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Can last that long? My original deuter cost RM380 already show defect just 5yrs. All the waterproof material decompose and break it in small pcs. Make the bag dirty.
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this i'm not sure la... i got my deuter for few months only and used once only so far... haha...

i dun think nowadays those products can last that long edi...
last time everything the quality was better...
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QUOTE(saru88 @ Aug 4 2009, 01:37 PM)
this i'm not sure la... i got my deuter for few months only and used once only so far... haha...

i dun think nowadays those products can last that long edi...
last time everything the quality was better...
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Another no brand made in thailand backpack last for 8yrs+ and still no sign of wear and tear. thumbup.gif I use it more to oversea and outstation compare to my original deuter.
My another laptop targus backpack also wearout after 4yrs. sad.gif Lost fate to original product liao.
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QUOTE(saru88 @ Aug 4 2009, 04:26 AM)
haha... yeah... i got her namecard, but i din know where i put it... juz very easy so spot, dun worry...

Even u use a deuter quite often, it will still last for 10-15 years i think... whatever it is, wut u pay is wut u get...
with the price u r paying, there muz be certain standard of quality in that product... dun doubt it...

my uncle bought a Lafuma back in the 70s, and surprisingly he is still using his Lafuma... it's more than 30 years old!!
he trashes his backpack alot... the bag is dirty, with some small holes here n there... but the bag is still alive n kicking...

i dun think nowadays those products will be as long lasting as the old ones... i heard Lafuma's quality has dropped...

anywayz dude, 65+10 is oredy more than enuff for u... if u really can really stuff it full, i dun think u can easily carry it...
dat time my gf's 50+10 was totally full... it was winter, need to bring some thick clothes like trenchcoat n some jackets...
when checked in, the backpack was around 13kg of weight...
and it was freaking heavy even when i carried it...

so imagine la if 65+10 is full... how would it be? if u r small size like me, confirm GG.com...  biggrin.gif
u got urs 100 bucks? i saw 70 bucks only in Thailand... u got pwn lor...  rclxms.gif
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i'm planning to buy about 35+10 to 45+10, i'm never though of going travelling during winter times, so that range of size is enough for me.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 4 2009, 08:20 PM)
Another no brand made in thailand backpack last for 8yrs+ and still no sign of wear and tear.  thumbup.gif I use it more to oversea and outstation compare to my original deuter.
My another laptop targus backpack also wearout after 4yrs.  sad.gif  Lost fate to original product liao.
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sorry to hear about the targus backpack.. seems like now original also can be suck sweat.gif
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hey, i jz wanna ask whether this deuter hiking bag can be brought into plane cabin. may i know what is the maximum size allowed?
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i'm planning to buy about 35+10 to 45+10, i'm never though of going travelling during winter times, so that range of size is enough for me..  thumbup.gif

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35+10 is freaking small... for me, 4 days can la.. even my gf is using 50+10... while i'm using 65+10...
IMO, i think 55+10 is okay la if u think u dun need much space..

QUOTE(mr_maf14 @ Aug 4 2009, 10:57 PM)
hey, i jz wanna ask whether this deuter hiking bag can be brought into plane cabin. may i know what is the maximum size allowed?
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i dun think u can bring a hiking bag into the cabin... it's too big... and maximum liquid allowed to bring in to the cabin is just 10ml...
i dun think u will bring dat little liquid on ur entire trip, rite?

a normal small backpack can la..

like me, i bring a 65+10 and a deuter hokus pokus which is a waistbag but can be converted into a backpack..

the hokus pokus i will bring into the cabin, but the 65+10 as the luggage...
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You can bring a daypack into the cabin as long as it is within the weight limit and size. There is a sizing 'jig' at most airport where if you can put your pack in, then you are okay. Check airline websites to see

About packs. Unfortunately to share with all, there are unethical shops selling replica (fake) Deuter packs at 'real' pack prices. Meaning, even if you pay RM500 for the pack, it may still be a fake. Replica packs are almost 90% copy, the just lack certain 'qualities' which is really hard to differentiate.

I personally would not buy a Deuter in Malaysia. Just too risky and the packs are not all that great either. Many people like it because (unfortunately) its the most easily available pack here.

I strongly recommend you to consider other packs. Brands like Lowe Alpine, Macpac and even Millet makes really good pack. You pay a bit more but some of the models are really good.

Buy pack, buy it once. Make sure the fitting is right and it feels good. Make sure you know how to put it on, test it. Pay a bit more and it will last you a good time. I have seen replica packs fail along a trip. The carrier ends up having to hug and lug the pack around. Not a pretty sight especially if you are in the jungle.

Madam Sia's shop has many brands. WHile Deuter is her major products, she has some Millets and Tatonka I think. Consider these products.

They are a bit like cars. Many people use Proton but that does not mean they are good. They buy it because it is popular and probably what they can afford. If you already have the money to buy a Perdana, why not consider a Toyota, for any model for that matter.

Google and read about the other brands of backpack.

Good luck!
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You can bring a daypack into the cabin as long as it is within the weight limit and size. There is a sizing 'jig' at most airport where if you can put your pack in, then you are okay. Check airline websites to see

About packs. Unfortunately to share with all, there are unethical shops selling replica (fake) Deuter packs at 'real' pack prices. Meaning, even if you pay RM500 for the pack, it may still be a fake. Replica packs are almost 90% copy, the just lack certain 'qualities' which is really hard to differentiate.

I personally would not buy a Deuter in Malaysia. Just too risky and the packs are not all that great either. Many people like it because (unfortunately) its the most easily available pack here.

I strongly recommend you to consider other packs. Brands like Lowe Alpine, Macpac and even Millet makes really good pack. You pay a bit more but some of the models are really good.

Buy pack, buy it once. Make sure the fitting is right and it feels good. Make sure you know how to put it on, test it. Pay a bit more and it will last you a good time. I have seen replica packs fail along a trip. The carrier ends up having to hug and lug the pack around. Not a pretty sight especially if you are in the jungle.

Madam Sia's shop has many brands. WHile Deuter is her major products, she has some Millets and Tatonka I think. Consider these products.

They are a bit like cars. Many people use Proton but that does not mean they are good. They buy it because it is popular and probably what they can afford. If you already have the money to buy a Perdana, why not consider a Toyota, for any model for that matter.

Google and read about the other brands of backpack.

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hi keong, u really have awesome knowledge on backpack notworthy.gif thanks.. i saw millet brand before.. it's definitely more expensive than deuter.. and my fren told me deuter have this side-zip which is very convenient so that u no need to unload all ur things to grab the things at the middle

anyone knows this madam sia can give MAX how many % discount on the bags? anyone been given 'nice' discount b4 there?
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madam sia normally give out 30% la... not much, but definitely more than others...

and side zip? the side zip is for the side pockets tho... i think only the traveller model have the side zip to reach the middle of the compartment...
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just bought Deuter Aircontact 45+10 @ RM420 at Madam Sia shop rclxms.gif really nice lady, even ask someone to show me way to ATM..

pretty damaging to the wallet, but heck gonna use it till i die tongue.gif
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QUOTE(navilink @ Aug 15 2009, 02:15 PM)
just bought Deuter Aircontact 45+10 @ RM420 at Madam Sia shop rclxms.gif really nice lady, even ask someone to show me way to ATM..

pretty damaging to the wallet, but heck gonna use it till i die tongue.gif
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glad that u bought ur bag and happy with it.. rclxms.gif

45+10 for me is just too small... im happy with my 65+10 too... tongue.gif
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glad that u bought ur bag and happy with it.. rclxms.gif

45+10 for me is just too small... im happy with my 65+10 too... tongue.gif
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heavier stuff at the back of ur backbone ler.. lighter and bulkier goes bottom smile.gif

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actually i regret a bit bought too big (for me..) coz will nd to pay extra premium for heavier luggage..
heavier stuff at the back of ur backbone ler.. lighter and bulkier goes bottom smile.gif
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dun worry bro... my gf's 50+10 stuff until totally full last time still not overweight yet...
if im not mistaken, standard is 15kg... but last time her backpack was 13kg, and it was freaking heavy already..

hell no, always put ur heavier stuff at the bottom, otherwise it will spoil ur bag compartments...
i wonder where did u hear it from... hmm.gif
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dun worry bro... my gf's 50+10 stuff until totally full last time still not overweight yet...
if im not mistaken, standard is 15kg... but last time her backpack was 13kg, and it was freaking heavy already..

hell no, always put ur heavier stuff at the bottom, otherwise it will spoil ur bag compartments...
i wonder where did u hear it from...  hmm.gif
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indeed, yes... but u must make sure ur bottom compartment is full in order to fill some heavy stuff in the compartment that near ur back..
cuz if ur bottom compartment is not full and u stuff in some heavy stuff in the middle compartment, the separator will eventually spoil...

my fren hold a Deuter Futura to class everyday... put in some textbooks inside... around 2 months, the separator spoiled edi...
so wut say u? smile.gif
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indeed, yes... but u must make sure ur bottom compartment is full in order to fill some heavy stuff in the compartment that near ur back..
cuz if ur bottom compartment is not full and u stuff in some heavy stuff in the middle compartment, the separator will eventually spoil...

my fren hold a Deuter Futura to class everyday... put in some textbooks inside... around 2 months, the separator spoiled edi...
so wut say u?  smile.gif
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yea they recommended to put sleeping bag at the bottom, and my coleman sleeping bag fits in bottom just perfectly rclxms.gif anyway even if it really tore off, then got warranty kuar.. lifetime warranty hehe icon_idea.gif
futura is a hiking bag rite?? u fren using a hiking bag to school? wow shocking.gif

anyway just playing around with the bag yesterday, lots of straps to handle rclxub.gif
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yea they recommended to put sleeping bag at the bottom, and my coleman sleeping bag fits in bottom just perfectly rclxms.gif anyway even if it really tore off, then got warranty kuar.. lifetime warranty hehe icon_idea.gif
futura is a hiking bag rite?? u fren using a hiking bag to school? wow shocking.gif

anyway just playing around with the bag yesterday, lots of straps to handle rclxub.gif
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if im not mistaken, new deuter does not provide lifetime warranty already... 5 years i think...
ya, it's recommended to put sleeping bag at the bottom too...

haha... futura is sort of a hiking bag... my fren has a Futura 28... and he used it to class... u know, university's text books are thick! tongue.gif

at 1st u sure feel the straps very kecoh... but after awhile u will get used to it 1.. dun worry...
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if im not mistaken, new deuter does not provide lifetime warranty already... 5 years i think...
ya, it's recommended to put sleeping bag at the bottom too...

haha... futura is sort of a hiking bag... my fren has a Futura 28... and he used it to class... u know, university's text books are thick! tongue.gif

at 1st u sure feel the straps very kecoh... but after awhile u will get used to it 1.. dun worry...
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5 year only ah? omg.. but this Madam Sia said lifetime warranty.. maybe it's old version of bag tongue.gif
will test my bag to the limit next week yea~~
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5 year only ah? omg.. but this Madam Sia said lifetime warranty.. maybe it's old version of bag tongue.gif
will test my bag to the limit next week yea~~
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she told me lifetime too, but from wut i heard, newer version of deuter only provides a 5-year warranty...
guess u need to find uncle google for the best answer... tongue.gif

well, good luck on ur trip tho... dun 4get to snap some pics or videos of ur trip... icon_rolleyes.gif
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You can bring a daypack into the cabin as long as it is within the weight limit and size. There is a sizing 'jig' at most airport where if you can put your pack in, then you are okay. Check airline websites to see

About packs. Unfortunately to share with all, there are unethical shops selling replica (fake) Deuter packs at 'real' pack prices. Meaning, even if you pay RM500 for the pack, it may still be a fake. Replica packs are almost 90% copy, the just lack certain 'qualities' which is really hard to differentiate.

I personally would not buy a Deuter in Malaysia. Just too risky and the packs are not all that great either. Many people like it because (unfortunately) its the most easily available pack here.

I strongly recommend you to consider other packs. Brands like Lowe Alpine, Macpac and even Millet makes really good pack. You pay a bit more but some of the models are really good.

Buy pack, buy it once. Make sure the fitting is right and it feels good. Make sure you know how to put it on, test it. Pay a bit more and it will last you a good time. I have seen replica packs fail along a trip. The carrier ends up having to hug and lug the pack around. Not a pretty sight especially if you are in the jungle.

Madam Sia's shop has many brands. WHile Deuter is her major products, she has some Millets and Tatonka I think. Consider these products.

They are a bit like cars. Many people use Proton but that does not mean they are good. They buy it because it is popular and probably what they can afford. If you already have the money to buy a Perdana, why not consider a Toyota, for any model for that matter.

Google and read about the other brands of backpack.

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Hi Keong,

Want to ask you, for the brand you mentioned, except from Pertama Complex, where else of shop in KL i can find those brand of backpack?

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Hi Keong,

Want to ask you, for the brand you mentioned, except from Pertama Complex, where else of shop in KL i can find those brand of backpack?
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Hi...sorry for the late reply.
You can try google Lafuma Malaysia. Other stores include 'Tearproof' at either midvalley, KLCC or Times Square.

There are a few others but you can forget about them. They are either fakes, replicas or worse still total rip-off. They will charge you so much extra to pay for their early retirement!

Good luck!
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QUOTE(evee_luca @ Jun 24 2008, 06:40 AM)
Pertama Complex, Kedai Beg Yoon Hin.

Madam Sia is the owner, and she's great at giving advices, and stuff. Just bought my 45+10L ACT Lite last weekend, at rm330 only.

Of course it's original...
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That is a blardy good deal..
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any other good brands to recommend that is original and doesn't cost a bomb?
is the original deuter made in Vietnam now because the replicas always showed it's made in Vietnam instead of China and claimed to be A-class quality although it's not genuine? is it durable?
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Hi Keong,

Want to ask you, for the brand you mentioned, except from Pertama Complex, where else of shop in KL i can find those brand of backpack?
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Tearproof perhaps? there r branches in MV, KLCC, The Curve, etc...

other than that, there is one shop carrying Deuter n Northface in Jalan Maarof, Bangsar... UFL i think... in Pelita that row...
they r the distributor for Deuter, but u can get cheaper in Mdm Sia's shop...

other than that, i dun really trust...
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plz surf back the previous pages... it's only 4 pages in this thread...
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mdm Sia seems to be famous for backpacks... LoL

I got mine wrong and planning to sell it off....
Got mine for RM300++ , Deuter , 35 + 10ml , yellow colour.
With raincover , place for waterbag, great back support, place to put hiking stick.

That bag is for hiking. I dun need a hiking bag. Brought it went i was a newbie in these things. and also i need a bigger bag.

I do a lot of backpacking. So i needed more space and compartment and a 50l bag. Hopefully with great back support ( i have back problem ) with rain jacket and lite weight.

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QUOTE(kazebert @ Sep 23 2009, 12:59 PM)
mdm Sia seems to be famous for backpacks... LoL

I got mine wrong and planning to sell it off....
Got mine for RM300++ , Deuter , 35 + 10ml , yellow colour.
With raincover , place for waterbag, great back support, place to put hiking stick.

That bag is for hiking. I dun need a  hiking bag. Brought it went i was a newbie in these things. and also i need a bigger bag.

I do a lot of backpacking. So i needed more space and compartment and a 50l bag. Hopefully with great back support ( i have back problem ) with rain jacket and lite weight.

Kaze
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haha.. cuz maybe they provide the cheapest price for backpacks? tongue.gif

what backpack u planning to buy?
i'm using my aircontact 65+10 for backpacking only...

i think how about futura for u? it has a better back support i assume...
if u r planning to buy traveller, i dun think u will feel comfortable wif it...
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alright.. found it.. and bought the 45+10..
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anyone try with high sierra brand backpack?
i found the explorer 55 which is 55 liter sell at RM277 promotion price with rain cover included.

http://www.highsierrasport.com/Item?number=59301&lang=en

Anyone have comment on the quality for high sierra backpack?
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anyone try with high sierra brand backpack?
i found the explorer 55 which is 55 liter sell at RM277 promotion price with rain cover included.

http://www.highsierrasport.com/Item?number=59301&lang=en

Anyone have comment on the quality for high sierra backpack?
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can't comment on the quality but i heard the brand b4.. which place u got the pricing?
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QUOTE(calvin_swk @ Sep 29 2009, 08:29 PM)
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mdm Sia seems to be famous for backpacks... LoL

I got mine wrong and planning to sell it off....
Got mine for RM300++ , Deuter , 35 + 10ml , yellow colour.
With raincover , place for waterbag, great back support, place to put hiking stick.

That bag is for hiking. I dun need a  hiking bag. Brought it went i was a newbie in these things. and also i need a bigger bag.

I do a lot of backpacking. So i needed more space and compartment and a 50l bag. Hopefully with great back support ( i have back problem ) with rain jacket and lite weight.

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good luck
.. brought not cheap for 35L ..guess market is sold at <rm270

selling my new original Deuter Groden 35L rm 230..

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Is from Tearproof The curve but the promotion over.
Next promotion is in Dec.

Anyhow i bought the backpack. Look fine to me...not sure until i use it on my trip.
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i see b4 jusco they selling these deuters (ori price rm600) then sell at RM200+ nia.. i didnt check out wat model izzit....
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can anyone give a few suggestion of the said good brands other than Karrimor, Deuter, Lowe Alpine, Lowe Pro, Northface or High Sierra? thanks

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can anyone give a few suggestion of the said good brands other than Karrimor, Deuter, Lowe Alpine, Lowe Pro, Northface or High Sierra? thanks
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Tearproof at Berjaya Times Square is a goner. Don't know if they will reopen elsewhere, somehow they aren't that keen on sharing this information...while regular customers could perhaps use that.

Went to Madam Sia for my backpack. Aimed for the Karrimor, ended up with another Deuter. It just felt way more comfortable. Now I need to go back for a flightbag to put the backpack in smile.gif...

Made a small video about Madam Sia's shop (Kedai Bag Yoon Hin @ Pertama Complex) on YouTube btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6twEE45C0Y

Lot Unit Nr. G66 - Ground Floor Pertama Shopping Complex. It's located in a small alley between both left and right lanes within the mall. Look for the Kedai Bag Yoon Hin sign.!
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Mee too using Deuter bag. But that one light hiking only. Deuter Navajo 18 with capacity of 18L and 650gm. What i really love their bag is it came with airstripes profiles with mesh lining. Bangsar Deuter selling it for Rm180.

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Just bought a Deuter Futura Pro 42. Love the bag but I'm wondering how tough is the mesh of the AirComfort system it? Any ideas as I might check the bag in at airports and as we know, the airport people just throw the bags around.
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Keong,
That day i saw a swiss polo backpack in Parkson. The capacity is about 75L. But the price is only RM230. I wana ask whether Swiss Polo backpack good o not? i dun think Parkson will sell fake one gua.
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went to mdm.sia shop last sun to buy day trip hiking beg.
She gave me lots of helpful advice.
Bought Deuter Trans Alpine 30 liter for RM270. She even chat with me how to take care of the beg, how to wash the beg. Very nice person. RECOMMENDED!
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Just bought a Deuter Futura Pro 42. Love the bag but I'm wondering how tough is the mesh of the AirComfort system it? Any ideas as I might check the bag in at airports and as we know, the airport people just throw the bags around.
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it depend on how u trash ur bag la i think...
the mesh unless it got hooked or something... i dun think it will spoil that easily...

i will be heading to macau next wed with my AirContact 65+10... that time i let u know how worse they trash my bag la.. haha...

QUOTE(zombieyap @ Nov 3 2009, 02:45 PM)
went to mdm.sia shop last sun to buy day trip hiking beg.
She gave me lots of helpful advice.
Bought Deuter Trans Alpine 30 liter for RM270. She even chat with me how to take care of the beg, how to wash the beg. Very nice person. RECOMMENDED!
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Deuter? Trans? Alpine? how many backpacks u bought?

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Swiss Polo? I would not recommend it as an investment. Sorry.

Again, don't fall for large capacity packs. The bigger your pack, the more you wanna carry. Consider this carefully as the bigger the pack, the heavier you tend to pack it and that will weigh you down.


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i bought a high sierra explorer 55liter from tearproof last month for my upcoming oversea travels.
Then bought another day trip deuter 30liter this month for my regular weekend hiking day trip.
2 begs in total.


Added on November 4, 2009, 3:29 pm
QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 4 2009, 01:23 PM)
Swiss Polo? I would not recommend it as an investment. Sorry.

Again, don't fall for large capacity packs. The bigger your pack, the more you wanna carry. Consider this carefully as the bigger the pack, the heavier you tend to pack it and that will weigh you down.
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mdm sia also commented don't buy swiss polo, vertical this kind of brand.
The beg mainly manufacture in china. the quality is normal cannot last long.
If you looking for a long term, comfortable and ergonomic beg, please buy the beg specialist brand.

I have a hiking beg which is unknow brand. i can tell u is very uncomfortable when i pack lots of thing in the beg and go hiking.
The new deuter beg i bought very comfortable when i put on my back.

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thanks keong and zombieyap. I get it liao. Actually i am planning to buy a backpack for next year Mount KK climbing trip. I will be there about 1 week. So i need a large capacity bag. But my budget not high till Deuter backpack price. Any recommend budget backpack? When Deuter backpack got sales again?
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QUOTE(bsloh @ Nov 4 2009, 06:47 PM)
thanks keong and zombieyap. I get it liao. Actually i am planning to buy a backpack for next year Mount KK  climbing trip. I will be there about 1 week. So i need a large capacity bag. But my budget not high till Deuter backpack price. Any recommend budget backpack? When Deuter backpack got sales again?
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i faced the same situation as u. caz next year i will heavily travel to oversea and i tot of buying a larger capcity backpack.
Buy deuter larger capacity beg so expensive and mdm sia commented that deuter larger beg is not comfortable to used for long hours.

That is why i decided to buy high sierra(www.highsierrasport.com)55liter beg from tearproof.
Caz during the travel time i will bring along my 30 liter deuter beg as day travel beg.
And 55 liter will be my airplane onboard beg.

high sierra brand have the same feel and design like deuter but less expensive.
For sure the Quality will be lower than deuter and no life time warranty lar.

If you plan to buy from tearproof, wait for DEC mega sales they are doing mega sales which have average 20% to 30% discount.
My advise lar, you really need to try it out in real person before you decide to buy or not.
and you need to know how frequent will you used the larger capacity beg? if very frequent is worth to invest for deuter.
But if less then you can buy less expensive brand.

try imagine will you walk around KK with the larger capacity beg?
very heavy and tired lol.


Added on November 5, 2009, 9:49 amoh ya. for deuter backpacksales.
you can try your luck wait for warehouse clearance from world of sport which sometime have sometime no.
Else you can go Mid Valley jusco, there are selling old deuter beg.
Another alternative mdm. sia shop she gave 30% immediately. I have compare Jusco price with mdm sia and still mdm sia price is the cheapest for deuter by almost RM100. mdm sia do sell fake deuter lar....but how long lasting i never ask smile.gif

if mdm sia, she will advice you have to take care like how to wash the beg.

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zombieyap, thanks for ur advice. i won't use the bag that frequently, coz i do not travel a lot. I wana try the bag oso. but the main prob is i stay in penang, i can't go to mdm sia shop to buy. Do u know any shop in penang just like mdm sia shop, sell a lot of backpacks?
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QUOTE(bsloh @ Nov 5 2009, 01:51 PM)
zombieyap, thanks for ur advice. i won't use the bag that frequently, coz i do not travel a lot. I wana try the bag oso. but the main prob is i stay in penang, i can't go to mdm sia shop to buy. Do u know any shop in penang just like mdm sia shop, sell a lot of backpacks?
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oic...i not sure in about penang area is there any shop like her 1.
You can actually go around penang....find the suitable beg 1st.
then only u start look around where have cheapest price.

i can give u mdm sia shop phone no.
Maybe u can ask call directly see she can courier to u or not...and check the price.
not sure izit expensive to courier begpack.
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zombieyap. it's ok, since u said better try it before buying the backpack, i think i will buy it at penang la. I will go around n compare the price la. Hope i can get a good backpack la. haha. anyway, zombieyap. really thanks oh.


Added on November 7, 2009, 12:59 amanyone know backpack tax in malaysia? If i buy at langkawi. will the price cheaper?

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does anyone know if mdm sia takes in karrimor?
whats the price like for
Karrimor X-Lite 40 + 5
Karrimor X-Lite 35
Karrimor Kodiak 35
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does anyone know if mdm sia takes in karrimor?
whats the price like for
Karrimor X-Lite 40 + 5
Karrimor X-Lite 35
Karrimor Kodiak 35
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indeed she have karrimor brand, but i not sure the models ur listed above have or not lar
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QUOTE(zombieyap @ Nov 5 2009, 09:42 AM)
i faced the same situation as u. caz next year i will heavily travel to oversea and i tot of buying a larger capcity backpack.
Buy deuter larger capacity beg so expensive and mdm sia commented that deuter larger beg is not comfortable to used for long hours.

That is why i decided to buy high sierra(www.highsierrasport.com)55liter beg from tearproof.
Caz during the travel time i will bring along my 30 liter deuter beg as day travel beg.
And 55 liter will be my airplane onboard beg.

high sierra brand have the same feel and design like deuter but less expensive.
For sure the Quality will be lower than deuter and no life time warranty lar.

If you plan to buy from tearproof, wait for DEC mega sales they are doing mega sales which have average 20% to 30% discount.
My advise lar, you really need to try it out in real person before you decide to buy or not.
and you need to know how frequent will you used the larger capacity beg? if very frequent is worth to invest for deuter.
But if less then you can buy less expensive brand.

try imagine will you walk around KK with the larger capacity beg?
very heavy and tired lol.


Added on November 5, 2009, 9:49 amoh ya. for deuter backpacksales.
you can try your luck wait for warehouse clearance from world of sport which sometime have sometime no.
Else you can go Mid Valley jusco, there are selling old deuter beg.
Another alternative mdm. sia shop she gave 30% immediately. I have compare Jusco price with mdm sia and still mdm sia price is the cheapest for deuter by almost RM100. mdm sia do sell fake deuter lar....but how long lasting i never ask smile.gif

if mdm sia, she will advice you have to take care like how to wash the beg.
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HI KEONG/ZOMBIEYAP cool2.gif

HI I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A DISCUSS ABOUT THE PERTAMA SHOP CALLED YOON HIN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHETHER MADAM SIA IS SELLING REPLICA MIXED WITH SOME GENUINE BACKPACK. FOR DEUTER.
NO DISCRIMATING OR DISRESPECT FOR SOME PPL TO SHOP THERE BEFORE. I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE MIGHT GIVEN
THE BEST SERVICE AND A FAIR NEGOTIATION FOR THE PRICING. icon_rolleyes.gif

MY QUESTION IS - IF THE PRICE IS CHEAPEST AROUND IN KL.
BUT WHAT YOU GET IS REPLICAS, THERE IS NO POINT EVEN GIVING OUT A 20-30% DISCOUNT.
SORRY DUDES. ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING FOR BACKPACKS. ACT 60+15. smile.gif
HAVE DO SOME BACKPACKS RESEARCH FOR A MONTH. STILL A NEWBIE. icon_question.gif

I WAS DECIDED TO DIRECT PURCHASE FROM THERE.
BUT AFTER... I HAVE PULL MY HANDBRAKE AND DO "DRIFT" U TURN. shakehead.gif

I READ/COPY ALL THE PICTURE FROM BLOGGERS/WEBSITES/IMAGES, I COMPARE THE PACKS THAT MADAM SIA SOLD TO A BLOGGER IS KIND THE DIFFERENT FROM DEUTER US/GERMANY WEBSITE. THIS IS THE POINT GETTING ME VERY CONFUSING. ACTUALLY I'M TRYING NOT TO THINK LIKE THAT. SINCE SO MANY PPL GIVING HER A GOOD FEEDBACK COMPLIMENT

BECAUSE OF HER FRIENDLY ATTITUDE, SEEMS LIKE EVERY SHOPPER WAS HAPPY WITH IT. "HAPPY WALLET"

BUT THEY NEVER FIND OUT THE TRUTH, WHETHER IS 100% AUTHENTIC OR REPLICA.
EVEN COMES WITH EVERY PIECE OF TAGS WITH BARCODE. vmad.gif

ACTUALLY THE GENUINE OR REPLICA CAN'T SIMPLY JUSTIFY BY PRICING.
500 TO 1000 IS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE ITEM WAS LEGIT. "FOR A BACKPACK". whistling.gif

MAYBE I'M WRONG.... sad.gif
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BUY BAG FROM THERE. MAYBE CAN TAKE OUT AND COMPARES THE PICTURE FORM DEUTER WEBSITES

SORRY JUST A DISCUSSION ONLY. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. blush.gif

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QUOTE(bsloh @ Nov 4 2009, 06:47 PM)
thanks keong and zombieyap. I get it liao. Actually i am planning to buy a backpack for next year Mount KK  climbing trip. I will be there about 1 week. So i need a large capacity bag. But my budget not high till Deuter backpack price. Any recommend budget backpack? When Deuter backpack got sales again?
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You can choose not to carry the backpack during Mt.KK, let the porter do it...
Dont think it as an suffering to them, their guide fees is not very much, so the porter fees is actually directly goes to them, think it as an extra allowance to them...
Btw, enjoy the hike, been there twice, tried both trail.
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Currently i see a seller for deuter bag at lowyat. So is it worth to trust? I also want to a 25L backpack is it enough to surport for 3-4 days clothes + laptop and other small thing? THX
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QUOTE(hakgwei @ Nov 14 2009, 05:32 PM)
HI KEONG/ZOMBIEYAP  cool2.gif

HI I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A DISCUSS ABOUT THE PERTAMA SHOP CALLED YOON HIN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHETHER MADAM SIA IS SELLING REPLICA MIXED WITH SOME GENUINE BACKPACK. FOR DEUTER.
NO DISCRIMATING OR DISRESPECT FOR SOME PPL TO SHOP THERE BEFORE. I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE MIGHT GIVEN
THE BEST SERVICE AND A FAIR NEGOTIATION FOR THE PRICING.  icon_rolleyes.gif

MY QUESTION IS - IF THE PRICE IS CHEAPEST AROUND IN KL.
BUT WHAT YOU GET IS REPLICAS, THERE IS NO POINT EVEN GIVING OUT A 20-30% DISCOUNT.
SORRY DUDES. ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING FOR BACKPACKS. ACT 60+15smile.gif
HAVE DO SOME BACKPACKS RESEARCH FOR A MONTH. STILL A NEWBIE.  icon_question.gif

I WAS DECIDED TO DIRECT PURCHASE FROM THERE.
BUT AFTER... I HAVE PULL MY HANDBRAKE AND DO "DRIFT" U TURN.  shakehead.gif

I READ/COPY ALL THE PICTURE FROM BLOGGERS/WEBSITES/IMAGES, I COMPARE THE PACKS THAT MADAM SIA SOLD TO A BLOGGER IS KIND THE DIFFERENT FROM DEUTER US/GERMANY WEBSITE. THIS IS THE POINT GETTING ME VERY CONFUSING. ACTUALLY I'M TRYING NOT TO THINK LIKE THAT. SINCE SO MANY PPL GIVING HER A GOOD FEEDBACK COMPLIMENT

BECAUSE OF HER FRIENDLY ATTITUDE, SEEMS LIKE EVERY SHOPPER WAS HAPPY WITH IT. "HAPPY WALLET"

BUT THEY NEVER FIND OUT THE TRUTH, WHETHER IS 100% AUTHENTIC OR REPLICA.
EVEN COMES WITH EVERY PIECE OF TAGS WITH BARCODE.  vmad.gif

ACTUALLY THE GENUINE OR REPLICA CAN'T SIMPLY JUSTIFY BY PRICING.
500 TO 1000 IS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE ITEM WAS LEGIT. "FOR A BACKPACK". whistling.gif

MAYBE I'M WRONG....  sad.gif
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BUY BAG FROM THERE. MAYBE CAN TAKE OUT AND COMPARES THE PICTURE FORM DEUTER WEBSITES

SORRY JUST A DISCUSSION ONLY. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.  blush.gif
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i did compared the beg i bought and found no different.
But i do agreed with u, i did some research before this and till now there is no guideline on how to detect the replica beg.

for mdm.sia, if she really try to cheat us then, i think this will be 1 and only time business for her.
i will not buy anything from her if this is replica. till now there is no any suspicious point.

Well, if really want to be safe, you can buy from UFL distributor. UFL distributor is the sole official distributor in Malaysia.
Tell u the experience, i went to their showroom at Bangsar. Service is SUCK, never ask anything and never give advice.
The price is extreme expensive lar.

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QUOTE(DikkieD @ Oct 20 2009, 12:39 PM)
Tearproof at Berjaya Times Square is a goner. Don't know if they will reopen elsewhere, somehow they aren't that keen on sharing this information...while regular customers could perhaps use that.

Went to Madam Sia for my backpack. Aimed for the Karrimor, ended up with another Deuter. It just felt way more comfortable. Now I need to go back for a flightbag to put the backpack in smile.gif...

Made a small video about Madam Sia's shop (Kedai Bag Yoon Hin @ Pertama Complex) on YouTube btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6twEE45C0Y

Lot Unit Nr. G66 - Ground Floor Pertama Shopping Complex. It's located in a small alley between both left and right lanes within the mall. Look for the Kedai Bag Yoon Hin sign.!
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halo want to ask is there any public transport get to Madam Sia shop? i from shah alam smile.gif

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halo want to ask is there any public transport get to Madam Sia shop? i from shah alam smile.gif
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from shah alam, i think u can take KTM komuter. But i not sure what station izit call.
However u need to walk for across a distance to get to Pertama complex :S

If you take bus, just ask for bus passby Pertama complex.
Mostly is buses to Jinjang, Kepong, Setapak, Gombak.

Oh ya. Mdm. Sia did sell replica deuter. She did ask me looking for original or replica.
The replica price she offer is half of the price of original.

Maybe this round, you can go ask her how we differentiate an original and replica beg.

i did saw some guideline posted by other to identify original beg in lelong.com.my.
But not sure izit true or not? caz is not the official guideline from deuter.

The beg i bought matched the original/genuine marking lar.
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Hi everyone!

Wow...this seems to be a very interesting topic.
packs, replicas etc.

I will have to stress this...personally I think 80% of ALL deuter packs in the market in MALAYSIA is replica.
This is a PERSONAL observation. I am NOT saying Mdm Sia sells replica. I know for a fact that a few of her Millet packs are REALLY good packs.

And you are right, if you are paying RM250 for a pack that you THINK is real (but it is not), don't you think it is best to NOT take the risk totally.

SERIOUSLY, Deuter is NOT the best pack in the market. Because there are so few brands in Malaysia, we have no choice but to THINK that Deuter is the best. Deuter is okay but there are better packs.

My honest opinion...forget Deuters. Go for less known brands, at least they are original. Nothing is worse than carrying a fake LV (or in this case Deuter) around. But more importantly, you do not want your pack to fail in the jungle. Not an easy thing to deal with.

So many brands out there. Lowe Alpine, Lafuma, Millet, Macpac, Black Diamond, Osprey etc. The list goes on.

Yes, they are expensive but remember...either that or gamble with fake or 'replica' packs.

So, please...don't get stuck with Deuters. Carry something different, probably something better and 'original' and be different. Stand out from the rest. Many people who use Deuter say Deuter is good but probably because it is the ONLY pack they have ever used. What choice do they have?

So...start your google machines and start searching for different brands. Buy different brands. The lesser the demands are for Deuters, the lesser the replicas will be brought in.


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QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 16 2009, 05:30 PM)
Hi everyone!

Wow...this seems to be a very interesting topic.
packs, replicas etc.

I will have to stress this...personally I think 80% of ALL deuter packs in the market in MALAYSIA is replica.
This is a PERSONAL observation. I am NOT saying Mdm Sia sells replica. I know for a fact that a few of her Millet packs are REALLY good packs.

And you are right, if you are paying RM250 for a pack that you THINK is real (but it is not), don't you think it is best to NOT take the risk totally.

SERIOUSLY, Deuter is NOT the best pack in the market. Because there are so few brands in Malaysia, we have no choice but to THINK that Deuter is the best. Deuter is okay but there are better packs.

My honest opinion...forget Deuters. Go for less known brands, at least they are original. Nothing is worse than carrying a fake LV (or in this case Deuter) around. But more importantly, you do not want your pack to fail in the jungle. Not an easy thing to deal with.

So many brands out there. Lowe Alpine, Lafuma, Millet, Macpac, Black Diamond, Osprey etc. The list goes on.

Yes, they are expensive but remember...either that or gamble with fake or 'replica' packs.

So, please...don't get stuck with Deuters. Carry something different, probably something better and 'original' and be different. Stand out from the rest. Many people who use Deuter say Deuter is good but probably because it is the ONLY pack they have ever used. What choice do they have?

So...start your google machines and start searching for different brands. Buy different brands. The lesser the demands are for Deuters, the lesser the replicas will be brought in.
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anyplace to recommend to get those brand listed by u?
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anyplace to recommend to get those brand listed by u?
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fully agreed with your tot.
That is why i choose different brand for my larger liter beg.
I think the padding for deuter for larger liter backpack is not so comfortable compare to high sierra.
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does Vaude produce good bags?..coz i saw at SS2 Gallery 30+5 at RM270++..anyone use this bag b4?
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SS2 corezone have. They don't sell deuter but others brand. All original.
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SS2 corezone have. They don't sell deuter but others brand. All original.
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yeah..i went there just now..mostly carry lafuma and vaude
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yeah..i went there just now..mostly carry lafuma and vaude
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I ve seen those bag. Look tough and good quality. But pricey.


I don't understand why you guys keep looking for brand backpack. I ve been using non brand backpack for many yrs and get throw here and there by the airport staff. Still last till now.
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There are a few good stores.
I prefer Lafuma in Bangsar, or Nadir from Outdoor Dynamics (online retailer from Penang).

Be VERY careful when you decide to walk in to some of the retailers. They will try to sell you everything they have on the shelves. From weird looking spoons to GoreTex jackets that do NOT work in our climate. They will of course convince you otherwise.

I am a bit harsh with all these sellers because they really try to con us consumers into buying a s*&tload of gear that we do not need. That and also the fact that they sell them are ridiculously high price.

The rule of thumb is always to go for practical solutions. Who needs a RM800 goretex walking shoes in Malaysia anyway???
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I have brought a deuter bag Gobi 55+10 from mdm siah for RM300++...it is genuine? Pls let me know that anyone hv brought the same bag. Thank you
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QUOTE(wltan15 @ Nov 16 2009, 10:41 PM)
I have brought a deuter bag Gobi 55+10 from mdm siah for RM300++...it is genuine? Pls let me know that anyone hv brought the same bag. Thank you
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Hi wltan...I would recomend that you look up Deuter's official website.
At least that way you can see if there are any differences.

Good luck!
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HI KEONG/ZOMBIEYAP

I HAVEN BOUGHT ANY BAG YET BECAUSE I STILL DOING MORE RESEARCH AND I THINK IS A RISK TO BUY A REPLICA/AA PACK AT RECOMENDED RETAILING PRICE.

FOR MADAM SIA. I HAVE NO COMMENT FOR HER. BECAUSE STILL HAVE MANY PPL LIKES TO GO THERE BECAUSE 1ST COMES FOR THE PRICE LA, 2ND SERVICE. rclxms.gif

I WENT TO CHECK THESE ACT PRO FROM WORLD OF OUTDOOR, UFL BANGSAR AND MANY PLACES. KINDA DISSAPPOINTED ON THE STITCH ARE IMPERFECTION "CAN BE SEEN ON EVERYWHERE" AND THE MATERIAL ARE SO-SO FEEL. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT QUALITY IS FROM DEUTER [SINCE 1898]. TOTALY OUT OF MY EXPECTATION. MAYBE LACK OF QC IN VIETNAM, WHO KNOWS? ALL THE DEUTER PRODUCT IS FROM UFL. I DON'T KNOW WHY THE STOCKS ARE DIFERENT FROM DEUTER JAPAN AND GERMANY. I HAVE FEW PICTURE TO COMPARE. icon_question.gif

CBU COMPARES WITH CKD. SAME ITEM BUT THE QUALITY ARE DIFFERENT.
NOT EVERYBODY WILLING TO SPEND EXTRA MONEY TO GET THE CBU CAR.
SO THEY GO FOR CKD. LOOKS THE SAME.. WHO CARES. hmm.gif

DEUTER BACKPACK ARE GOOD LOOKING, ATTRACTED SO MANY YOUNG AGE CONSUMER, THAT'S WHY SO MANY MALAYSIA LIKE IT. BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN AND COLOR. NORTH FACE ALSO NOT BAD, BUT ABIT LOW ON TECH CAUSE MANY FAKE. "IN CHINA" COMPARES WITH DEUTER. OSPREY,KARRIMOR ARE SIMPLE IN DESIGN/COLOR. NOT MANY PPL IN MALAYSIA CAN ACCEPT THE DESIGN. GWEILO "NGAN SIX" GWEILO "FUNE"... I'M NOT PRO BACKPACKERS BUT I LIKE TO DO RESEARCH ON MANY PRODUCTS.

GREGORY "BALTORO". LOWE ALPINE "SIROCCO,CONTOUR" ARE LARGE FOR HIKING PROS.
I DO LIKE THEM BUT VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND REPLACEMENT PARTS. SO BETTER THINK OF IT.
PANIC... "ANYBODY KNOWS ABOUT LAFUMA? GOOD PRODUCT? QUALITY WISE OKAY?
I'M INTERESTED IN LAFUMA'S TRAVELLER 60. COMPARES WITH GENUINE DEUTER ACT PRO 50+15.

LOTS OF PPL SAYING THAT DEUTER ARE AFFORTABLE. OR CHEAPER. I DO A PRICING SURVEY FROM FEW WEBSITE, DEUTER JAPAN,GERMANY AND YAHOO.JP. THEIR RETAIL SELLING PRICE ARE HIGHER THAN OUR STORE 'RSP' ALMOST 1/3. IT'S A HUGE GAP. SOME MORE THEIR DISPLAY PICTURE ON THE NET IS DIFERRENT. MAYBE WE ARE BUYING REPLICAS/CKD. I STILL THINK DEUTER PRODUCT ARE NOT CHEAP IF YOU GET THE REAL ONE. PRICE COMPARES FROM YH.

AFTER A DISCOUNT. U WILLING TO PAY FOR THE BAG SURE NO SUSPICIOUS POINT FROM THERE. LESS THAN RM50 PROFIT AFTER A MAD DISCOUNT WHO WANTS TO OPEN A SHOP TO SELL BAGS, SOME MORE DEUTER MID RANGE 2008/09. CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY PERCENT OF GENUINE OF THE PRODUCT IS. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT OLD MODELS 1ST. WHAT I HEARD IS LASTEST MODEL JUST LAUNCH STRAIGHTLY OFFER 30%. HUH?

"1 MARK "COINS" 1 MARK FOR THE "PRODUCTS" IN CHINESE : ) YOU HAVE TO STUDY THE PRODUCT AND LOOK SEE JAN JAN thumbup.gif

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES WE CAN'T EXPECT THE SALESPERSON WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH OR A SHORT EXPLAIN. DUE TO THEIR EXPRERIENCE, SOME OF THEM MAYBE YES. OTHER'S JUST WAIT FOR MONTLY SALARY FROM ADMIN. LIKE THAT DAY I SHOP AT WORLD OF OUTDOOR. I ASK THE SALESPERSON ABOUT THE DEUTER WARRANTY. THE MESSAGE FROM HIM WAS VERY BLUR. DUNNO WHAT HE SAID. THEN HE KEEP ON TEXTING SMS INFRONT OF US.

KEONG ALREADY GIVEN ALL THE ANSWER IN HIS PREVIOUS THREAD. PAGE 1-2-3
HE ACTUALLY KNOWS "SOMETHING". SORRY I MEAN "ALOTSSS". KEONG MUST BE WORKING IN LUGGAGE INDUSTRY.
HE IS A DICTIONARIES "PROS" FOR BACKPACKS I THINK. ANY QUESTION WE SHOULD ASK HIM. WHERE CAN I GET LOWE ALPINE?

MY CONCLUSION IS
NOT SAYING THAT MDM.SIA IS CHEATING US LA. IF YES I THINK SHE CANNOT SURVIVE TILL TODAY LOR.
NO POINT TO SAID I'M RITE. BUT I JUST OPEN A COMMON SENSES DISCUSSION ONLY. MAYBE I'M WRONG...
IF YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING EXPENSIVE/CBU CARS MUST DO SOME HOMEWORK LOR. cool2.gif

SORRY MY ENGLISH IS POOR and SORRY I STILL REPLY THE OUTDATE TOPIC AGAIN. sad.gif
BECAUSE I COPY AND PASTE... FROM MY NOTEPAD AND I DON'T HAVE INTERNET AT HOME.
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hakgwei ...please dun type in all capital(means ur shouting)...is very rude
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Hi Hakgwei...

You seem to have done your homework.

Again, I would say stay away from Deuter.
Outdoor packs should be functional, style comes later.
Choose base on what you want to use it for and your fitting.

These days, all brands comes up with all sort of designs etc. Many designs are purely to attract people. "Waaa...so nice" but when you bring it out into different types of terrain then only will you know if it suits you.

I have many many packs. It is a hobby of mine. Some packs are not suitable at all for our jungle but they have a history.
But my packs are not only for collections.

Some of the packs I have are for real use and abuse. I don't buy for show only.

Our generation is spoilt by choice, that is why we are having this 'conversation'.
Sir Edmund Hillary did Everest probably using one of the ugliest looking backpack based on our generation's standards. But he was the first person to ever summit Everest!

Get a good pack. Invest in it not because it only looks good but more importantly, it is comfortable and suits your need. After that, it is all about you proving to the world that you actually USE the pack to it's fullest potential.

Like I mention before, there are two types of packs out there.
ONE...the type that is in fashion school. Nothing wrong with it, just that it has a lot of bells and whistles. Zippers here and there. Pockets everywhere.
Good for organizing stuff. Practical.

TWO...the type that has (almost) nothing. Just a plain bag. But this bag is built to use. Without all the funny bells and whistles, there are less things to rosak. If you travel for days in the jungle, a broken pack is the last thing you want.

Well, all said and done, it is still up to you.


Weird thing is..I find most people still buying what the crowd is buying and not thinking it through. tongue.gif
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Hi wltan...I would recomend that you look up Deuter's official website.
At least that way you can see if there are any differences.

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Hi Keong, i have check it but didt find that model but i saw it at mid valley jusco.
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Hi Keong, i have check it but didt find that model but i saw it at mid valley jusco.
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No THAT is a scary thought.

BUT sometimes websites do not list all their product. Certain products are made for different regions.
Karrimor for example exports only China made to Malaysia (so I was told).
Karrimor made in UK still exists but we would probably never be able to afford them.

Write to Deuter international and ask them. See what they say smile.gif
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oh ya just to share my opinion with deuter alpine trans 30liter
i use the beg to climb G.nuang which is a 10 hours hiking up and down hill.
one word to said..."COMFORTABLE"! my shoulder won't feel tired although i carry 4 liters of water + mixed stuff.
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oh ya just to share my opinion with deuter alpine trans 30liter
i use the beg to climb G.nuang which is a 10 hours hiking up and down hill.
one word to said..."COMFORTABLE"! my shoulder won't feel tired although i carry 4 liters of water + mixed stuff.
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how much is that?
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QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 17 2009, 08:27 PM)
No THAT is a scary thought.

BUT sometimes websites do not list all their product. Certain products are made for different regions.
Karrimor for example exports only China made to Malaysia (so I was told).
Karrimor made in UK still exists but we would probably never be able to afford them.

Write to Deuter international and ask them. See what they say smile.gif
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Haha, i also have drop an e-mail to them but is yet to reply.
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how much is that?
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RM270 with rain coat build in.
I checked in the net, this model won lots of prices and award.
The beg at first was design for biker but i think it suitable for my day trip hiking.

really RECOMMENDED!
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Here is another site for you guys to check and see others brand of backpack. --> www.rei.com

This site is my ultimate source for outdoor gear.
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Good info Ozak...
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Good info Ozak...
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u stated that bangsar got lafuma..may i know which part of bangsar?
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Their website is link to the international website.
The below is a link to their blog.

http://lafumalaysia.blogspot.com/

But do note that I am in now way related to them.
I just find their people more friendly and reasonable to deal with
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hakgwei ...please dun type in all capital(means ur shouting)...is very rude
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Oh okok lonewolf... Very sorry because i put my caps lock on and start to tpy.
Very sorry. Not mean to shouting. sorry to zombie and keong sad.gif

This forum allows ppl to upload photos? if yes? how to upload?
Can anybody teach me?


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Hi Hakgwei...

You seem to have done your homework.

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Sorry bro not mean to write all the capitals on.
Where can i get the karrimor SF range in Malaysia?
Online buying direct from UK is costy... icon_question.gif

Some more do u know suunto watches?
Which one is the best for functions? thumbup.gif

Thanks for sharing your knowledge to all of us. rclxms.gif

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Wow hakgwei...you are really into gear huh.
Be careful, it may well burn a BIG hole through your pocket and bank account.

Karrimor SF, a few months back someone was trying to sell it on mudah.
Yes, it is expensive to buy it from UK but try ebay (international). You can sometimes get a good deal there.

Suunto...hmmm...I am not a person who will recommend them. I know of a friend who paid thousand ringgits for it and a few months later, the compass kaput and the broken strap costs RM200+ to replace. Have to send for servicing some more.

When it comes to gear, I would suggest that we consider practicality & function.
For watches with all these sort of functions, I would say Casio gives you good value for money.
Suunto is good I suppose but so expensive (to buy and maintain).

Maybe we can all share what our interests are. That way, we can know better what type of equipment to 'chat' about.

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well, i've always wanted to get karrimor... but due to the price... hehe...

the reason i got Deuter is because the price also...
it's a cheaper reliable brand, i would say...
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Hi Saru88,

Unfortunatelly Malaysia is flooded with Karrimors Made In China. Not that China stuff are not good, just that their QC is not as stringent as the ones in UK. That's what I observe anyway smile.gif

But in terms of reliability, I don't think I can agree with you. I would say it depends on how much you use (and abuse) it. Go ask some of the hardcore Mountain climbers people in Malaysia and the will swear on Karrimor!

Then again, it all depends on who uses it I think. Some people (like me) treat their packs like little babies and would probably last longer than their owners! I got a friend who drags and sits on his packs as he wishes. He can go through a pack in a few months! Then again he works outdoors as a living smile.gif
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I don't takecare my packs. He... If it expensive, it must be abuse able and built for tough. If it can't, than I won't consider that brand or design anymore.
I ve all the type of backpack. Brand, non brand and replica. I don't consider much on the price or branded. The important thing is material use on the pack and the way it sticth. The function of the new design, those pocket and comforter.
My local favorite source for pack is padang besar and langkawi. But you have to choose carefully as it mix replica with brand pack.
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hmm.. i use to have a deuter. Real small one, futara 22 AC.

However, lately i plan to go for some trip which may take me 1-2weeks time. think to get another one, but then only i find out there is lot of brands out there!! any backpakers here can share some information on the bag and how to choose a correct one?
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How to choose backpack? Go to youtube and there are some good video tutorials on it.

I would suggest that you do not get hung up with brands.
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okie... I just got myself a futura pro 42 for RM350 at mdm sia.
Its really comfortable and I like it very much. But, after reading what have been posted I felt like I made a wrong choice?
With all the replica and fake issue..
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Hi Saru88,

Unfortunatelly Malaysia is flooded with Karrimors Made In China. Not that China stuff are not good, just that their QC is not as stringent as the ones in UK. That's what I observe anyway smile.gif

But in terms of reliability, I don't think I can agree with you.  I would say it depends on how much you use (and abuse) it. Go ask some of the hardcore Mountain climbers people in Malaysia and the will swear on Karrimor!

Then again, it all depends on who uses it I think. Some people (like me) treat their packs like little babies and would probably last longer than their owners! I got a friend who drags and sits on his packs as he wishes. He can go through a pack in a few months! Then again he works outdoors as a living smile.gif
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this i'm not sure... i aint no a mountain climber... just a normal backpacker...
i'm planning to get a smaller backpack for smaller trips... mine is 65+10... kinda big for short trips like 2-3 days...

am thinking to go for karrimor or lafuma... or maybe just stick to deuter only... not much choices in malaysia tho...

really regret la when i went to hong kong last week didnt buy the lafuma there... it was freaking cheap there...

QUOTE(vince86 @ Nov 20 2009, 06:36 PM)
okie... I just got myself a futura pro 42 for RM350 at mdm sia.
Its really comfortable and I like it very much. But, after reading what have been posted I felt like I made a wrong choice?
With all the replica and fake issue..
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futura pro 42 for RM350? not bad wurt the price... i'm planning to get the same model if im not getting karrimor or lafuma for my smaller pack...

i duno why i like karrimor cougar so much... haha...
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anyone know where to get a fold-able small bag pack?

after some shop visiting in SS2, and Bangsar..i am still deciding to take Lafuma Mokka 30 or not...they giving a 10% discount..

manage to found a shop that only sells deuter in bangsar, is the same row as the mcdonald

anyhow, i do notice some comes with suspension support kinda thing at the back..whats the difference compared with those normal air strip back support?..

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hi Yap, saw you posted the high sierra model, have you got it? how is it? how the price? planning to get 1 that is one of my choice..
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hi Yap, saw you posted the high sierra model, have you got it? how is it? how the price? planning to get 1 that is one of my choice..
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Hi all...

I think it is time we consider doing a meet-up. Ha...ha...meet up, get to know each other and let everyone test out each other's pack.
I recently found one of the packs I bought but never used. Stashed in my hometown.
The brand is Cerro Torre. Model Porter 40.

Anyone interested to meet up?
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tumpang 1 kaki.

i'm using Aircontact 65+10 (deuter) and satisfied with it. used it for trekking, hiking and traveling..all in 1..save $$

cheers

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QUOTE(chae @ Nov 23 2009, 12:30 PM)
tumpang 1 kaki.

i'm using Aircontact 65+10 (deuter) and satisfied with it. used it for trekking, hiking and traveling..all in 1..save $$

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u got a kaki here... tongue.gif

but sometimes i feel if the backpack is fully packed, it's freaking heavy...
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got Deuter Aircontact 45+10.. looks like it's kinda small not really can pack a lot of things...
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Oh...did not notice this has been turned into a poll.
Hmm...I have owned & used the following:

Deuter
Karrimor
Low Alpine
The North Face
Osprey
Most of the above that I have have sudah jual or give away smile.gif



Currently me and my partner share the use of the following, but of different sizes, models and usage:
Mountainsmith
Gregory
Lowe Alpine
Macpac
Wilderness Equipment
Mountain Designs
Karana Dry Bags

Hmmm...seems like kind of a lot but they make up from waist pouches, daypacks, over nights to expedition packs for TWO person.

I personally wouldn't use Deuter if I had the choice. That's a personal choice.


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karrimor and deuter or lowe alpine.. indeed what is the different between them? just price?

keong, can u share more on their quality based on your experience?

i used to have one deuter, but very small. Recently wanna get a bigger which suitable for me to tarvel for a week to 10 days. What should the suitable size, if i not going to wash those cloth? :S

(sightseeing trip no time to wash them sad.gif will hoop from one place to other)

btw, karrimor and deuter, which one is more expensive?

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Hi all...

I think it is time we consider doing a meet-up. Ha...ha...meet up, get to know each other and let everyone test out each other's pack.
I recently found one of the packs I bought but never used. Stashed in my hometown.
The brand is Cerro Torre. Model Porter 40.

Anyone interested to meet up?
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meet up for tea or for some adventure ? tongue.gif
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hi Yap, saw you posted the high sierra model, have you got it? how is it? how the price? planning to get 1 that is one of my choice..
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i have not use the high sierra beg yet.
will let u know after i use that to travel 2 countries in this dec and jan rclxm9.gif

oh ya. attached is one of the photo of my deutur beg that i used for daytrip hiking!
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Added on November 25, 2009, 9:20 amforgot to mentioned. i used this deuter beg hike G.nuang few weeks beg.
With 4 liters of water + rain coat + extra pair of sandal + misc things.

Imagine hike for 10 hours with beg on your shoulder.
Luckly this beg is very very comfortable.

When finished i did not feel pain or tired on my shoulder or back.
I going to use this beg again this week to hike G.nuang again! thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(whtan @ Nov 25 2009, 02:08 AM)
karrimor and deuter or lowe alpine.. indeed what is the different between them? just price?

keong, can u share more on their quality based on your experience?

i used to have one deuter, but very small. Recently wanna get a bigger which suitable for me to tarvel for a week to 10 days. What should the suitable size, if i not going to wash those cloth? :S

(sightseeing trip no time to wash them sad.gif will hoop from one place to other)

btw, karrimor and deuter, which one is more expensive?
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Hi Tan..

Backpacks are a bit like shoes. So many brands and so many models.
But if we look carefully, each brand of shoe have a 'range' of models for specific activity (like running, football, trail running etc).

It is same with backpacks, just that there are not so many 'activities'. Sometimes these 'activities' are created. Created so that they can sell more items (bags) and make more money. At the end of day, like backpacks, shoes are made for your feet (backpacks made to carry your stuff). People have been able to travel barefeet for hundreds of years, suddenly now have to have all sort of types of shoes for all sort of things. Even to go toilet!!

So, what is the difference between the different brands? Many things. Some brands are better at making alpine mountaineering packs and some brands better at making 'general use' packs. The price is normally influenced by the brand name, material used and to be honest, which country they are from (currency exchange).

It is difficult to say which brand is good/ bad quality. I know many people would disagree but I find that if you use a pair of football shoes to play badminton, sure hancur la that shoe. BUT in general, some brands have better, more stricter control over their Quality Control compared to other brands.

Some backpack brands make so many models in one year, all because of 'trend', 'fashion' and not for function.

You ask what size of bag suitable. Hmmm...I would advise you to look again at how you like to travel. If you do not want to wash clothes, does that mean you will still bring them all back OR are you going to throw them away and just buy new ones during traveling? Some people do the second option and they carry a small pack only. With a small and lighter pack, you will not get tired too fast. So, it goes back to you, do you want to carry a BIG bag with lots of clothes or a small pack?



Which one more expensive? In Malaysia, it depends on where you buy it. Get a cheaper Deuter and you go back and then you will start thinking...is this original or replica? But a Karrimor and pay a bit more and maybe you will find it a bit boring in design. Tak boleh menang.


Again...choose a backpack based on what you want to do.


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meet up for tea or for some adventure ?  tongue.gif
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If you guys are interested to try out different bag designs and brands, I suggest we meet just to do that. I can bring some different brands and models/ designs for you guys to look see.

Why am I doing this? I donno...just something I like I guess. BUT I am NOT with any of the shops selling gear ah. Must remember that.


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i have not use the high sierra beg yet.
will let u know after i use that to travel 2 countries in this dec and jan  rclxm9.gif

oh ya. attached is one of the photo of my deutur beg that i used for daytrip hiking!
recommended!


Added on November 25, 2009, 9:20 amforgot to mentioned. i used this deuter beg hike G.nuang few weeks beg.
With 4 liters of water + rain coat + extra pair of sandal + misc things.

Imagine hike for 10 hours with beg on your shoulder.
Luckly this beg is very very comfortable.

When finished i did not feel pain or tired on my shoulder or back.
I going to use this beg again this week to hike G.nuang again! thumbup.gif
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Nice pack Yap. Glad that it had served you well.
Have you ever found out what is the use of the 'black flap' on the front of your pack? Curios.

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quality or not wise, the most important thing of a backpack is definitely the COMFORT when u carries it. quality for me usually comes second but still important though smile.gif
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Nice pack Yap. Glad that it had served you well.
Have you ever found out what is the use of the 'black flap' on the front of your pack? Curios.
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this beg was designed for biker actually.
So the black flap is to hold helmet.
But i use that to hold my sandal/shoe during my hike cool2.gif
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this beg was designed for biker actually.
So the black flap is to hold helmet.
But i use that to hold my sandal/shoe during my hike  cool2.gif
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i duno what's the common weight of the pack to carry...

the few weeks ago i went to hk.. the pack was around 14kg...

when i walk that time, wow, i feel my legs are very very tiring... the thigh there...

i try to adjust up n down, but still make no difference... i duno izit the pack too heavy or my pack is not comfortable...
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i duno what's the common weight of the pack to carry...

the few weeks ago i went to hk.. the pack was around 14kg...

when i walk that time, wow, i feel my legs are very very tiring... the thigh there...

i try to adjust up n down, but still make no difference... i duno izit the pack too heavy or my pack is not comfortable...
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Could be many reason.
Could also be due to the change in climate as well as the effect of flying.
Try it back here with the same amount of gear and you will know.
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anyone heard of Millet this brand?
so far i found its strap is giving me the most comfortable feeling compared to other brand

Millet KHUMBU 65+10

because its strap is not so thick, im talking about 60L+ over rucksack
most of them with thick straps with i feel sort of umcomfortable..it hurts my shoulder

i only manage to find this brand in bangsar
anyone knows where to find this brand in KL/PJ area?

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QUOTE(enjoylife @ Nov 27 2009, 10:44 PM)
anyone heard of Millet this brand?
so far i found its strap is giving me the most comfortable feeling compared to other brand

Millet KHUMBU 65+10

because its strap is not so thick, im talking about 60L+ over rucksack
most of them with thick straps with i feel sort of umcomfortable..it hurts my shoulder

i only manage to find this brand in bangsar
anyone knows where to find this brand in KL/PJ area?
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Hi...I think the one selling genuine Millet is only in Lafuma ib Bangsar. Good shop.
Millet is a good alternative brand than Deuter. Well done.
If you put on the pack and it hurts your shoulder, it could be well due to incorrect sizing (your pack harness) or in-correct wear. The weight of the pack should be taken up by your waist, NOT shoulder.
See the below youtube video for reference.

How to wear a backpack

Cheers,

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hi,
yea that's the shop i can find Millet there plus some lafuma products
and thanks for the video guide

guess i will be getting Millet then biggrin.gif
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hi,
yea that's the shop i can find Millet there plus some lafuma products
and thanks for the video guide

guess i will be getting Millet then biggrin.gif
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I think you have made a good choice.
I am glad that someone decided to stay away from the usual Deuter.
The shop in Bangsar offers good service with friendly staff. Good choice.

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QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 28 2009, 05:23 PM)
Hi...I think the one selling genuine Millet is only in Lafuma ib Bangsar. Good shop.
Millet is a good alternative brand than Deuter. Well done.
If you put on the pack and it hurts your shoulder, it could be well due to incorrect sizing (your pack harness) or in-correct wear. The weight of the pack should be taken up by your waist, NOT shoulder.
See the below youtube video for reference.

How to wear a backpack

Cheers,
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Hi Keong, can u tell me where the shop is located in Bangsar? thks
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Hi Keong, can u tell me where the shop is located in Bangsar? thks
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Hi Pedas...

Here are links to two retailers I know.
I think they are both good and reasonable.

http://lafumalaysia.blogspot.com/2008/07/t...ma-bangsar.html

http://www.outdoordynamics.com.my

Nadir from Outdoor Dynamics is a personal friend of mine. That and the fact that he is really good with gear. My current pack is a Lowe Alpine pack from him. He is the distributor for Lowe Alpine in Malaysia.

Cheers,
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hi KEONG, do you know any difference between a hiking backpack and a trekking backpack?
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guys, ever heard of the Red Oxx brand?

I'm looking for a VERY durable backpack, which I hope bring about my travels for many years. I've look around on the web, and found this to match my requirements. Since I'm in Malaysia, is it OK to order from them? They're a company located in the US of A. I'm not quite concern about the shipping costs, as I'll be using a courier service...

As a bag company, I've read many positive reviews about them, citing most on their durability. I really hope to own one of them...

What do you guys think? Has anyone try one of these?

Red Oxx Webpage



**Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread, Mod please feel free to delete my post if you find me hijacking.

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Hi Bettyboop... to be honest I do not know what is the difference between the two. But I can gurantee you this. If you walk into a shop, they WILL show you the difference. My honest opinion, there's not much difference in the two unless one is an external frame and the other an internal frame. External frames are great for very long walks WITHOUT having to go through low bushes where you need to duck and crawl. Meaning it is not the best for our jungle. External frames are almost extint now. But in the US you can still find them. The internal frame is what you can find most in the market. And I think they are the best option.

Tsukiyomi001...red oxx is a luggage company. Luggage is a BIG difference from rucksack/ backpack. Luggage you would use a lot if you travel a lot via planes. Rucksack/ backpack more can go through planes but they can also be carried comfortable on your back into the jungles, mountains etc. I cannot imagine carrying a luggage on my back.
Rucksack/ backpack are more for the great outdoors.
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thanks for the advice ! =D learnt alot from there.
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@Keong
Thanks 4 the clarification, I thought backpack=luggage ^^

though, I asking here as I'm thinking of buying a rucksack from them (since the topic is "Rucksack, Backpack"...)

they do make rucksacks, its called "C-Ruck", maybe you can have a look and tell me if its worth it?

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Hi Tsukiyomi001...is the below what you are talking about?
http://www.redoxx.com/Backpacks-Daypacks/A...uck/160/Product

I am not sure why you are keen on this brand or design. I consider myself quite 'exposed' to all the outdoor backpacks/ rucksack but you have introduced to me the very first time to this brand!

To be honest, my first impression is that it looks a bit too squarish. it looks like a designer pack rather than an outdoor pack.

As I was reading the description, I thought you may have 'fallen' in love with that model because it used the word 'paratrooper'. Back in world war I or so they may have used something similar but technology and function has developed so much since then. Even the paratroopers these days are using better looking and functional packs. Below is a link to a few military packs made by well established brands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhHDWQPAuYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrPiKwYiGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dInNyNWgzbk

The above packs are really good. They have been tested in the field and probably developed there as well! But only consider this pack IF you are interested in military packs and will be using it for outdoors. Also, choose Olive Drab and avoid buying camouflage packs. Military packs are so NOT cool for civilians like us. These packs are NOT cheap by the way.

Again, I am not sure why you like the C-Ruck. Maybe you can try google it for reviews. If you can't get any, I would say avoid it. It is not cheap anyway.

Hope the above helps smile.gif

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thanks keong

well you could say I've "fallen in love", but that has nothing to do with "paratrooper", I just think that its a very durable backpack which will serve me well for a long long time... according to the mighty google, reviews are positive...

points I like about it: durable materials and sitching, carry-on size, good for 1 week luggage, non jamming chain-zippers
at least those are what I gathered from the reviews I found on google...

the reason I'm stressing on the word "durable" is that I thrash my bags, a lot, however I'm going aboard for my studies in the near future, hence I'm looking on a backpack that can accommodate about 1 weeks worth of clothes that I'll be bringing... and I plan to bring only 1 bag, carrying-on....

as the reviews are positive, I might be dipping in, unless you have any recommendations? I'll take cheaper bags any day if they are durable enough...

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thanks keong

well you could say I've "fallen in love", but that has nothing to do with "paratrooper", I just think that its a very durable backpack  which will serve me well for a long long time... according to the mighty google, reviews are positive...

points I like about it: durable materials and sitching, carry-on size, good for 1 week luggage, non jamming chain-zippers
at least those are what I gathered from the reviews I found on google...

the reason I'm stressing on the word "durable" is that I thrash my bags, a lot, however I'm going aboard for my studies in the near future, hence I'm looking on a backpack that can accommodate about 1 weeks worth of clothes  that I'll be bringing... and I plan to bring only 1 bag, carrying-on....

as the reviews are positive, I might be dipping in, unless you have any recommendations? I'll take cheaper bags any day if they are durable enough...
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Hi Tsukiyomi001,

For bombproof packs, I highly recomend New Zealand or Australian packs. Brands like the below:

Macpac
One Planet
Wilderness Equipment (now under Sea to Summit)

The above materials uses really strong materials and they would probably last longer than their human owners. If you like to 'feel' one, I can let you have a look. I have one. But when they are bombproof, they are heavy, that is the general tradeoff. Walk into any outdoor store these days and they will all tell you that the 'trend' these days is to go light.
They are expensive too.

I think to a certain extend packs are a personal choice thing. The redoxx pack is definitely not for me. It does not have the 'outdoor' design pack in it. Dupont materials are used in a lot of packs. Curdora is a common material used in a lot of packs. Other popular materials are 'diamond twill nylon', 'ripstop' and a host of other materials that specialized company makes.

Zippers are mostly from YKK. YKK heads that territory hands down. But at the end of the day, most of the packs I know are made either in Taiwan, Vietnam or Phillipines. China of course. Nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is even better. These places are 'hi-tech' concentrated. They have to be to compete with other OEM manufacturers.

Cheers
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thanks a lot, Keong ^ ^

nevertheless, those bags from the manufactures you mentioned don't really suit me, I'll be ordering from red oxx (hmm, maybe I'm love-blinded?)

I'll test the bag when I've receive it and give a report here.

Once again, THANKS Keong, you taught me a lot ^ ^
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corezone sells excellent backpack.i bought mine there a lafuma 55+10 backpack.can't remember the exact model

they also carry other brands such as millet,camelbak,camp,vaude

don't limit yourself to deuter and fyi we don't have any official distributors for north face product so according to a corezone staff you're either getting some really old stock or fake/replica.

here is the url http://www.mycorezone.com/

also checkout lafuma's boutique in bangsar.

ufl the official distributor of deuter bagpacks.Its in the same row as as McD and 7-E if you're familiar with bangsar area.its the row facing MPH.do check out their website for yearly promo and sales here is the link http://www.ufl.com.my/ListProduct.asp?subject=Home and they have their bangsar add there too.

if you happen to be in ampang,the ampang outdoor centre is worth a stop.its next to the rubber research building.

i hope this helps.so unfortunate of us...very limited choice la cry.gif



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if you happen to be in ampang,the ampang outdoor centre is worth a stop.its next to the rubber research building.

i hope this helps.so unfortunate of us...very limited choice la  cry.gif
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This ampang outdoor centre still there? I thaught no more liao. Have been many many yrs never been there. Alot of outdoor stuff there. The last I passby, can't find it.
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QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 19 2009, 02:45 PM)
Wow hakgwei...you are really into gear huh.
Be careful, it may well burn a BIG hole through your pocket and bank account.

Karrimor SF, a few months back someone was trying to sell it on mudah.
Yes, it is expensive to buy it from UK but try ebay (international). You can sometimes get a good deal there.

Suunto...hmmm...I am not a person who will recommend them. I know of a friend who paid thousand ringgits for it and a few months later, the compass kaput and the broken strap costs RM200+ to replace. Have to send for servicing some more.

When it comes to gear, I would suggest that we consider practicality & function.
For watches with all these sort of functions, I would say Casio gives you good value for money.
Suunto is good I suppose but so expensive (to buy and maintain).

Maybe we can all share what our interests are. That way, we can know better what type of equipment to 'chat' about.

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Hi Keong,

Long time no chat, i was trying to reply. vmad.gif
Last time dunno why this forum have block or something.

I not really into gear so much la.
If for a long term investment 5 to 8 years for "Rucsac"
I think is worth for paying that... LOL wink.gif

I like that DPM style karrimor SF. Finally i have to order from UK.
I think SF series are made in Vietnam. "Karrimor" made in china
Any recommended size. What do you think about 60-70L? rclxub.gif

Emmm. Regarding the Suunto watches. Dunno i just looking for a new digital watch. Because i don't have one. My Fav Suunto Core
i do have a active ebay account but electronic item from ebay are risky. But have to check whether is come with international warranty.
Yeah auction in Ebay are cheaper for 30% to 40% off compare in Malaysia RSP. If you willing to sacrified the warranty.
In U.S End user have used for more then 6 mths, if broke or Malfunction they replace a new watch for you without questioning.
This is what i read in their Suunto sales feedback, In Malaysia maybe is hard to look for spare parts Maintaining. Expensive also...
Everything import to Malaysia is expensive. Not like HK or Singapore. sad.gif

Besides gear collection, what do you collect?
Do you mind share with us, Appreciated! rclxm9.gif
Camera perhaps?

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Hi Hakgwei...

Wow...seems like you have been doing a lot of homework. Good on you.

What I collect? Hmmm...I wish I have the money to collect cameras...but no...I don't have the extra cash tongue.gif

I am into the outdoors. Nothing technical, just exploring the jungle and trying to learn up as much skills as possible on making oneself comfortable in the jungle. My 'collection' of stuff are actually stuff that I really use. They consists mostly of outdoor gear like packs, blades, pouches etc. But I use them, not for display smile.gif

Let me know when you get your SF. Maybe we can meet up and 'exchange' looking and feeling packs. He...he...

Cheers mate
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QUOTE(zombieyap @ Nov 16 2009, 09:30 AM)
from shah alam, i think u can take KTM komuter. But i not sure what station izit call.
However u need to walk for across a distance to get to Pertama complex :S

If you take bus, just ask for bus passby Pertama complex.
Mostly is buses to Jinjang, Kepong, Setapak, Gombak.

Oh ya. Mdm. Sia did sell replica deuter. She did ask me looking for original or replica.
The replica price she offer is half of the price of original.

Maybe this round, you can go ask her how we differentiate an original and replica beg.

i did saw some guideline posted by other to identify original beg in lelong.com.my.
But not sure izit true or not? caz is not the official guideline from deuter.

The beg i bought matched the original/genuine marking lar.
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may i know is which nearby ktm ?i stay metro prima there.how to go there?
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Hi Keong

Do you know Karrimor SF whether have replica in the Market?
Few months back selling in Mudah, Is that Authencity or Replica?
Do you recall that? icon_question.gif


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Keong Quote
But only consider this pack IF you are interested in military packs and will be using it for outdoors. Also, choose Olive Drab and avoid buying camouflage packs. Military packs are so NOT cool for civilians like us. These packs are NOT cheap by the way.


Was wondering as a fan of military stuff, since the military product are open sale to end user. icon_idea.gif
I think is a great chance to feel/abuse/test the actual military stuff, is cool to get one of this. like you said field tested.
Talking about funtional, military packs are durable & conservative but less function, but not as comfortable compares with...
I don't have a braveheart to join military, But wish to own a real camouflage pack for some reason are
I'm standing at 6.1ft average size i think still looks acceptable... cool2.gif
If you ask me choose Olive between Camo i think the camo will definately stands out abit.

Would like to check with you. Camouflage packs are restrict for certain reason rite? sweat.gif
Need some of your opinion. Pros and Cons, before i get in trouble like kena kipnap, News headline kena bomb.
Bombproof packs still survive but not the owner. doh.gif Just Kidding. LOL

Yeah when i get my SF, Sure let you know. But currently DPM is out of stock.
Still have time to change my mind whether Olive or DPM, DPM color will be back in feb.
No problem we can meet up later... When i get the SF.

Appreciated. Keong is our mentor... RESPECT! notworthy.gif

Best Regard
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Added on December 14, 2009, 7:27 am JUST FOUND A WELL CONSTRUCT WEBSITE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS
GREAT OUTDOOR PRODUCT WITH VERY USEFUL GUIDES "RECOMMENDED". Nice Carryloads too
CHECK IT OUT. thumbup.gif

www.fjallraven.com

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hie everyone....i'm new here...

would like to have some comment/suggestion from u all.

I planning to buy a begpack. But i dono which brand to buy.

looking for a 45+10 size of beg. ( to fit in at least 1 week of all my stuff)

Budget : max rm250

Please kindly advise

thanks

andy

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Hi Andy...I think the inital parts of this entire thread talks about packs, sizes etc. Towards pages 6 and above maybe it starts to divert to other things about pack.

Can I suggest that you go back to the initial pages and have a read thru. I think you will find the info there very useful.

Don't rush into buying one.


Added on December 14, 2009, 12:53 pmHi hakgwei...

Thank you for your kind words. I am no expert. merely sharing my knowledge which I have learnt through the painful experience of buying and spending time and lots of money on pack. It is an interest of mine smile.gif

Yes, you may get into trouble for using camo items in Malaysia. Even if it is clothing. But I think the authorities are more strict on camo items that are like the ones our local military use. If for example you are using the Australian design camo ones, should be no problem (but to be safe, better check huh smile.gif
Why they restrict the use has practical reasons. If for example you are moving in the jungle with that backpack, if for some reasons our military is near that area, they may think that you are 'unwanted' guests in the jungle. Or worse still, if they are having a real life exercise, you may end up as collateral damage because you look like one of them!
For this reason (and many other safety reasons), many packs these days are made with bright color material. Red, blue and sorts. Colors that stands out from the natural environment. So that you are easily spotted and identified as a civilian.

I do not know of any fake or replica SF. Yes, the one sold on Mudah is a real one I think but the price asked for it is WAAAAy too expensive. You can get a new one from UK including shipment with that price I think. No joke.


Wow...fjallraven is a very good but as well expensive brand. A popular brand in europe, especially in the bushcraft community.

If you reallike like military stuff and have friends or cousins in Australia, check out 'Platatac'. Awesome.

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thx keong....

will check back previous thread...

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but...is it possible to get a beg within my budget range...


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may i know is which nearby ktm ?i stay metro prima there.how to go there?
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if u stay near metro prima, i will advise u to take bus rather than train.
If by bus, u just come down at Pertama Complex.
Caz if you take train u still need to walk for around 10 minutes. quite far the KTM station to pertama complex.

When reach Pertama complex look for the Maybank ATM machine near food court.
The shop is near by there same floor as the ATM machine. Behind all the handphone shop.
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thx keong....

will check back previous thread...

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but...is it possible to get a beg within my budget range...
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Hi andyang...

Yes, it is very possible.

But I have to warn you that many of my friends started with a budget. After looking around, they decided to 'extend' their budget a bit coz the pack that they 'like' is just a bit more expensive. So, I hope you are a discipline guy Andy! icon_rolleyes.gif

Again, it goes back to what you want the pack for. And if you are the type that is very very concerned about the brand and how it looks, what color etc, then it will take some time for you to find the right one.

Good luck!
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Hi andyang...

Yes, it is very possible.

But I have to warn you that many of my friends started with a budget. After looking around, they decided to 'extend' their budget a bit coz the pack that they 'like' is just a bit more expensive. So, I hope you are a discipline guy Andy!  icon_rolleyes.gif

Again, it goes back to what you want the pack for. And if you are the type that is very very concerned about the brand and how it looks, what color etc, then it will take some time for you to find the right one.

Good luck!
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Dear Keong,

I am not concern about the brand and looks or colour. I just need a beg for my 1 week trip and future trip as my current beg is too small for the trip so i need a bigger 1.

That's y i asking if who can recommend any. As long as there is a quality and cause use for long term is enough. Noneed branded stuff. smile.gif

Please advise again.

thanks

andy

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QUOTE(andyang @ Dec 14 2009, 06:02 PM)
Dear Keong,

I am not concern about the brand and looks or colour. I just need a beg for my 1 week trip and future trip as my current beg is too small for the trip so i need a bigger 1.

That's y i asking if who can recommend any. As long as there is a quality and cause use for long term is enough. Noneed branded stuff. smile.gif

Please advise again.

thanks

andy
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Hi Andy,

For RM250 you can get brands like Vertikal (or Vertical) made by Sports Connection and maybe even some military packs.
Other brands would be difficult because for sizes 45 and above, prices are normally at least RM350 and above.

Vertical is not a bad brand actually. Sports Connection owns tTearproof in Malaysia and this brand was made in the same factories in Vietnam that makes brands like Millet, Deuter etc. This brand carry relatively good design (some copies) but they are cheaper because of the brand and also some alternative material (which is still good).

If you think you will not be using much of the pack after your 1 week trip, this may be your best option. What I consider as low usage of a pack is when it is used for 'real' outdoor use only once a month. I think that is under utilizing the pack.

Your other alternative is to get a used one. You can get this through Mudah. There are people who sells their old pack. But never buy Deuter via Mudah....almost ALL I gurantee is replicas...or face. They can call it what they want, OEM bla bla bla...fact is, they are replica. End of story. BUT having said that, if you just want to use the pack only 3 times in a year, then the replicas is another option, as long as you pay dirt cheap for the packs. Dirt cheap is anything under RM150 for a 35 liter and above pack I would say.

If I were you and I know I will be REALLY using the pack at least once a month, I would go for a second hand unit with RM250 budget.

IF I were gonna use the pack for once a year and with RM250, maybe I go for the replica units with spare cash after buying it!

My two cents worth smile.gif

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hmmmmmm a dedicated topic on backpacks... I like!

Looks like keong has enough posts to write a book! hahahah Good stuff mate!

* a small shipment of Lowe Alpine backpacks has just arrived, stay tuned! drool.gif
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Keong Quote

Yes, you may get into trouble for using camo items in Malaysia. Even if it is clothing. But I think the authorities are more strict on camo items that are like the ones our local military use. If for example you are using the Australian design camo ones, should be no problem (but to be safe, better check huh smile.gif
Why they restrict the use has practical reasons. If for example you are moving in the jungle with that backpack, if for some reasons our military is near that area, they may think that you are 'unwanted' guests in the jungle. Or worse still, if they are having a real life exercise, you may end up as collateral damage because you look like one of them!
For this reason (and many other safety reasons), many packs these days are made with bright color material. Red, blue and sorts. Colors that stands out from the natural environment. So that you are easily spotted and identified as a civilian.

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Hi Keong

Well you are rite, you got all the points. After your explaination. i'm not going to used that in jungle.
Because i have lowe alpine appachian red and deuter Act blue. Now thinking of getting a KSF60-100DPM for Trekking/travelling/Backpack.
Have been reading alots of good feedback from the user. 4.5kg with PLCE pockets empty though. shakehead.gif
It's kind da heavy bag. but is more functional like the PLCE pocket and another 40 extended. total can be extend to 125L.
i'm not saying that i'm going to used the max of the bag but at least this is a extra features in the bag.

Keong you have so many bags... and how to take care of these? Pls teach icon_question.gif
My BIL give me his lowe alpine never used b4 but no idea inside grow fungus and sticky powder form.
I can estimate that you spend have around 10k for all your rucsac collection. shocking.gif
How often did you go camping? What is your favorite place for Camping/Trekking?

Gregory which model are you own? Baltoro/Whitney? Where you get that from?
Good stuff but poor on replacement parts when you want to order. So far which one is your favorite?
The best of the best... thumbup.gif

Deuter is for some ppl who very new to outdoor packs, just like me last time.
Lafuma product are nice for female, But not many feedback or review from user.
Do you have any comment for them? wub.gif

Thanks for the platatac intro, It's Awesome


Added on December 18, 2009, 10:04 amHi

Would appreciate it if you guys could shed some light on newbie question...
Hope you guys can share your experience on the current size.

1) What size is just qualified for long hours trekking? Sizes like 50L/70L Large capacity bag is not comfortable to used for long hours?
2) How to wash/take a good care of the bag?
3) Do you guys buy Transport/Cargo cover for your expensive Large capacity backpacks when you travel? Or just abuse.
4) Any good sleeping bag recommend? Brand/Model/Size.
5) Top 10 Brand/Rucksac/Hiking Shoes. Just name it.

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Added on December 18, 2009, 10:12 am
Yes, we know that dragging a pack down dirt road at 60 mph is excessive.
No, that won't stop us from doing it anyway to find out which top packs can survive a serious case of road rash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Wya7VFdwk&feature=channel

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Hi hakgwei,

Thanks for sharing the video. So typical of a Marketing gimmick.

Again, I am not an expert but here is how I take care of my packs.

1...make sure the pack is dry before storing them away. Avoid drying them under direct sunlight.
2...Store in a cool dry place, preferably away from sunlight. The sunlight's UV not only discolors the pack but it also weakens the material.
3...occasionally, take unused packs out for airing.

Fungus is due to dampness. The sticky thingy inside the pack is actually the waterproofing lining. After a while, it either turns sticky or it dries up, and flake away.

If you have a pack with the inside starting to flake, do what a friend of mine did. Remove any metal frames from the pack, get a couple of soft steel wool, put it inside the pack and run it through the washing machine. It will REMOVE most of the flakes.

Where do I go camping? Everywhere but I avoid places where there are many people. If you look at my blogsite, I try to avoid telling people where they are. Those are my favorite place. If you tell people where it is, more people are going to show up. Then the local government is gonna be smart a@!* and go turn it into another one of their pathetic taman or hutan simpan. That is the end of that place.

I go out with my packs often, but camping is occasionally. The pack I use depends on how many days and what I will actually be doing.

I have a vintage gregory. So old that there isn't even a model name on it! Seldom used, only for short day hikes.

My favorite is still Macpac. They are brutally tough (but I won't be dragging it behind my car anytime soon!). I recently got meself a Lowe Alpine Stingray and I have a feeling I am going to be liking it a lot too smile.gif

I have not used Lafuma, so I dare not comment. Deuter is actually not bad but the reason I don't like it is because there's just too many replicas in the market.


The pack capacity depends on you and what you are using it for.
It depends on how much food you are carrying, for how many days, in what kind of weather and how much you are able to adapt to expending your comfort zone. There is no one true solution.
A lot of the branded packs comes in such large sizes is because some of the things they carry are bulky. Down jackets and sleeping bags, extra thick clothing etc takes up space. It is not so in our climate. I have a friend who can go on for 5 days 4 nights in the jungle with only 2 sets of clothes. 1 for the daytime use and the other set strictly for sleeping. I know another friend that use 1 set during the day, second set as spare and sleeps naked! It really is up to you.

Use very mild detergent to clean your pack. I only wash my pack if they get into salt water. Mud etc can stay on brows.gif

Transport bags for packs is a wise investment. I have heard of cases where packs gets rip because their straps and stuff gets caught on conveyor belts etc. Another method is to have the entire pack shrink wrap. I have an oversize duffle pack that swallows in my pack for check in.

Buy sleeping bags according to your need. If you are going to Nepal, you buy one for the weather on. The same sleeping bag may not be suitable for our climate use.

Hiking shoe for Malaysia> Adidas Kampung hands down. Followed by Merrel.

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Hi Andy,

For RM250 you can get brands like Vertikal (or Vertical) made by Sports Connection and maybe even some military packs.
Other brands would be difficult because for sizes 45 and above, prices are normally at least RM350 and above.

Vertical is not a bad brand actually. Sports Connection owns tTearproof in Malaysia and this brand was made in the same factories in Vietnam that makes brands like Millet, Deuter etc. This brand carry relatively good design (some copies) but they are cheaper because of the brand and also some alternative material (which is still good).

If you think you will not be using much of the pack after your 1 week trip, this may be your best option. What I consider as low usage of a pack is when it is used for 'real' outdoor use only once a month. I think that is under utilizing the pack.

Your other alternative is to get a used one. You can get this through Mudah. There are people who sells their old pack. But never buy Deuter via Mudah....almost ALL I gurantee is replicas...or face. They can call it what they want, OEM bla bla bla...fact is, they are replica. End of story. BUT having said that, if you just want to use the pack only 3 times in a year, then the replicas is another option, as long as you pay dirt cheap for the packs. Dirt cheap is anything under RM150 for a 35 liter and above pack I would say.

If I were you and I know I will be REALLY using the pack at least once a month, I would go for a second hand unit with RM250 budget.

IF I were gonna use the pack for once a year and with RM250, maybe I go for the replica units with spare cash after buying it!

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hie keong,

thanx for the advise....manage to get Vertikal at Treaproof......got a size 55 within my budget..... smile.gif love it!!!

thx again!!!

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hie keong,

thanx for the advise....manage to get Vertikal at Treaproof......got a size 55 within my budget..... smile.gif love it!!!

thx again!!!

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Good on you. Give it a go and tell us about it.
And don worry what brand you are carrying. At the end of the day, even Sir Edmund Hillary did not have half the luxury we have to climb Everest!

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anyone heard of quechua?

well i don't know about it until i got myself a fleece of this brand, sounds like some chinese branding but decalthon sells lots of their product here in uk.

was shopping around for a backpack on boxing day and saw a 60L one going for 29.95 pounds (RRP 69.95), cant help but to grab it cos it feels solid for me. blush.gif

http://www.decathlon.com.cn/EN/forclaz-60-...ccess-71500112/

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anyone heard of quechua?

well i don't know about it until i got myself a fleece of this brand, sounds like some chinese branding but decalthon sells lots of their product here in uk.

was shopping around for a backpack on boxing day and saw a 60L one going for 29.95 pounds (RRP 69.95), cant help but to grab it cos it feels solid for me. blush.gif

http://www.decathlon.com.cn/EN/forclaz-60-...ccess-71500112/
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Hi bearbear...yes, quechua is a popular brand in europe. Many Europe tourist carries the product. Have not used the personally but I am sure they are alrite. They have a lot of models and designs though.

Their tents used to be made right here in Malaysia!
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thanks, anyway im glad with it cos with 30 pounds i can only find karrimor with the most basic function for a 40L backpack. Black and Northface cost 50+ for 40L sweat.gif

Seems like its a french brand anyway

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You are too humble. You still the most experienced guy around. Still have a far way to learn from you. rclxm9.gif
Good to know all the information on how to taken care the packs. Thanks for sharing
Definitely helpful points you've made clear everytime. very much appreciated! smile.gif

I think you have the "Olive Drab" Stingray. It was bloody awesome! Suprizingly that you also liking into military packs. Good for you.
Where do you bought that? They do seem pretty expensive though, Cost more than KSF. I know the military version is kind da difficult to brought in asspecially camo. i'm still struggling to get my KSF 60-100 DPM with PLCE. But dunno lowe alpine "Military" whether have the same problem.
Stingray is consider 55+20L Large capacity. Nice design. and i thought you are a light packer? I just don't undestand the 'Cubic inches' tutorials.

If, like me, i buy lots of stuff when i travel, Large Capacity has the advantage can always have less in it, but you can fill a pack so much.
To me, around 60-75L is Perfect! Any more and it will become a real burden apparently! sweat.gif

Just bought a Vertikal raincoat/transport bag @ RM65. Exactly design like Deuter, in black different material + more weight but value for money. Deuter transport selling RM139, Vertikal is from singapore and quality & material not bad at all. Now looking good locks for secure. Because fancy transport bags can be stole when check out sometimes. Experience from my friends. Only left the rucsac on the conveyor the outer skin were gone.
Shits happen sometimes. cry.gif

PACSAFE/TEVA/COLUMBIA recommend? where can i do window shopping for pacsafe/Crumpler? Karabiners? rclxub.gif

Well, my intended use is to basically live out of it, some trekking routes, plane/train travel, woods and travel. I'm not an expert but plan to do all this B4 aged of 30s. India-Nepal-Tibet-Viet-China, I also plan to go west for future trips by using the packs. i have 2 packs at the moment. Lowe Alpine and Deuter, Maybe will sell the lowe alpine and KSF replacement. I think this 2 packs i will abuse for 15/20 years yawn.gif

Macpac is a superb bag. Basic and tough potential. Well besides that there are too many brand we never get to know in Malaysia.
I just fall in love with outdoor gear recently. I'm very open to other recommended brands, now i know about 30 Brands. Kena Racun already.
Deuter is a good brand & design, if you buy it from UK or Japan, can be differentiate some quality from the packs. It's true.
Now alots of outdoor gear company appeals to a mass market and does not seem to care about quality and innovation. Business...
Personal advice stay away from North Face, the most scary "LV"replicas compares to Deuter. Really poor reputation for quality/functional...

P/s : Mild Detergent is which type? No idea for that, any detergent recommend? i only know "babies wash" detergent is mild type.
Dry bags is for what kind of purpose, for pack hygiene? i'm a careful person.

THANKS & HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010 TO ALL OF YOU. \(*.*)/ icon_rolleyes.gif

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Hi Keong

You are too humble. You still the most experienced guy around. Still have a far way to learn from you. rclxm9.gif
Good to know all the information on how to taken care the packs. Thanks for sharing
Definitely helpful points you've made clear everytime. very much appreciated!  smile.gif

I think you have the "Olive Drab" Stingray. It was bloody awesome! Suprizingly that you also liking into military packs. Good for you.
Where do you bought that? They do seem pretty expensive though, Cost more than KSF. I know the military version is kind da difficult to brought in asspecially camo. i'm still struggling to get my KSF 60-100 DPM with PLCE. But dunno lowe alpine "Military" whether have the same problem.
Stingray is consider 55+20L Large capacity. Nice design. and i thought you are a light packer? I just don't undestand the 'Cubic inches' tutorials.

If, like me, i buy lots of stuff when i travel, Large Capacity has the advantage can always have less in it, but you can fill a pack so much.
To me, around 60-75L is Perfect! Any more and it will become a real burden apparently!  sweat.gif

Just bought a Vertikal raincoat/transport bag @ RM65. Exactly design like Deuter, in black different material + more weight but value for money. Deuter transport selling RM139, Vertikal is from singapore and quality & material not bad at all. Now looking good locks for secure. Because fancy transport bags can be stole when check out sometimes. Experience from my friends. Only left the rucsac on the conveyor the outer skin were gone.
Shits happen sometimes.  cry.gif

PACSAFE/TEVA/COLUMBIA recommend? where can i do window shopping for pacsafe/Crumpler? Karabiners?  rclxub.gif

Well, my intended use is to basically live out of it, some trekking routes, plane/train travel, woods and travel. I'm not an expert but plan to do all this B4 aged of 30s. India-Nepal-Tibet-Viet-China, I also plan to go west for future trips by using the packs. i have 2 packs at the moment. Lowe Alpine and Deuter, Maybe will sell the lowe alpine and KSF replacement. I think this 2 packs i will abuse for 15/20 years yawn.gif

Macpac is a superb bag. Basic and tough potential. Well besides that there are too many brand we never get to know in Malaysia.
I just fall in love with outdoor gear recently. I'm very open to other recommended brands, now i know about 30 Brands. Kena Racun already.
Deuter is a good brand & design, if you buy it from UK or Japan, can be differentiate some quality from the packs. It's true.
Now alots of outdoor gear company appeals to a mass market and does not seem to care about quality and innovation. Business...
Personal advice stay away from North Face, the most scary "LV"replicas compares to Deuter. Really poor reputation for quality/functional...

P/s : Mild Detergent is which type? No idea for that, any detergent recommend? i only know "babies wash" detergent is mild type.
Dry bags is for what kind of purpose, for pack hygiene? i'm a careful person. 

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I don't think there is a real safeproof way of making sure your bag and belongings is safe. It is part and parcel of travel/ living from your pack. I think sometimes people's pack get stolen not because of what is in inside but because of the expensive pack!

I got my OD Stingray from Nadir from Outdoor Dynamics. He is the authorised distributor of Lowe Alpine in Malaysia. You should contact him and he should be able to bring them in for you. Unfortunately, till date, I have not had the opportunity toput my pack into real use yet. Have been doing mostly short day trips with my smaller pack.

Personally, I will leave Teva alone. I used to love them but in recent years their quality has gone down the drain. A few years back Teva went on sale, some to 50% in Malaysia. What people don know is that in Singapore, there was a major recall of certain models because of manufacturing problems. Recalls in Malaysia? Sandals? No way!!! They would just rather sell them off cheap!

Columbia clothing are okay. I use them but new ones are expensive. Very expensive. Crumpler? Aiya, that one is more for hip looking. Try Timbuktu for messenger packs.

There are special mild detergents sold for washing outdoor equipment but what I normally do is just dilute (very diluted) Lux soap in room temperature water.

Dry bags can be used for many usage. Though it's primary use is of course to keep it's contents dry, some people use it as an emergency floating device as well as to keep dirty and smelly clothing from 'contaminating' other items in the pack. They are also I think the best option to carry your electronics like MP3 players or digital cameras. I use a 10 liter Karana dry bag to carry my camera when I head into the jungle. Come rain or river crossings, no problems at all.

Good that you are exploring different brands and staying away from the 'mainstream' brand. At least this way, you are less likely to spend hundreds of ringgits on a replica or fake pack!!

Happy New Year to everyone too!

Cheers,
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Hi Keong

Well Timbuk2 is really nice, i like the Q Bag. But don't where i can get to see the real bag in Malaysia.

So do you know any contact for Karrimor authorised distributor in Malaysia? SF series. Thanks in Advance
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Hi Keong

Well Timbuk2 is really nice, i like the Q Bag. But don't where i can get to see the real bag in Malaysia.

So do you know any contact for Karrimor authorised distributor in Malaysia? SF series. Thanks in Advance
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Hi hakgwei...

I am sorry I do not know anyone who is bringing in the SF series. Your best bet is online purchase.
I did hear about some1 planning to bring them in bulk but that has been months and till date no news.

In this region, I believe the authorised distributor for Karrimor is Sports Connection/ Tearproof.
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Hi Keong

Sport Connection Tear Proof they only carry Civi model only.
Too Bad... sad.gif

That one you mention is from some local website if i'm not mistaken.
it's from a Malay guy in malay text. As i know the supplier not entertain them.
Some more he is selling murder expensive extra like $400-600... rclxub.gif
Oh i rather contacting them my own.

Nevermind i still can order via online, Just to try some luck here.
See whether you have connection with some or not. HAHA
Your Replies very fast icon_idea.gif

Thanks

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Sport Connection Tear Proof they only carry Civi model only.
Too Bad...  sad.gif 

That one you mention is from some local website if i'm not mistaken.
it's from a Malay guy in malay text. As i know the supplier not entertain them.
Some more he is selling murder expensive extra like $400-600...  rclxub.gif
Oh i rather contacting them my own.

Nevermind i still can order via online, Just to try some luck here.
See whether you have connection with some or not. HAHA
Your Replies very fast icon_idea.gif

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Hi Hakgwei...eah, I check often on this thread to be honest. Like I said, packs are my passion. I cannot be bothered with other threads though sad.gif

Yes, order online dude. And let me know once you get it. We can meet up and go for a jalan somewhere.
It would be awesome.

Yes, I think the guy who tried to order is a Malay chap. He is really into gear as well that guy. But again, am not sure why the 'project' did not happen.

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Hi Keong

No problem when i get my SF will let you know. Not sure when can i get that. As i know will restock in February/March.

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Hi Keong

i'm asking for for an opinion her,i'm planning to buy a new bag. I went to a shop in pertama complex,the shop name is yoon hin if i'm not mistaken. i've fall in love with this bag osprey aether 70.what do you think about this bag?i'm using mainly for hiking around malaysian mount.

i've went to several shop looking for karrimor bag, bag most of the shop don't have it anymore. thye said that it's due dealer problem. is it true?

btw, i'm still new in this hiking thing.your advice is appreciated.

thanks in advance! thumbup.gif
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Hi guys. I just wanna ask whether you guys heard of evergreen adventure sdn bhd in taman midah. Apparently they also carry all other brands such as deuter and they also locally manufacture some backpack. Are these genuine product?
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Hi guys. I just wanna ask whether you guys heard of evergreen adventure sdn bhd in taman midah. Apparently they also carry all other brands such as deuter and they also locally manufacture some backpack. Are these genuine product?
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Hi 6383...there are many many companies, individuals and traders selling Deuters. Yes, I heard there are several 'efforts' to manufacture packs but I doubt if they will ever be able to compete with OEM manufacturers in countries like Vietnam, China and Phillipines.

Genuine or not is difficult to say really.

I personally would keep away from Deuter.
If you want to buy Deuters, check out the models on their website, look at the design and details. Then go to the shops and compare. Still, I believe 80% of Deuters in Malaysian market are either fake or replicas.

Hope that helps.
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Hi guys. I just wanna ask whether you guys heard of evergreen adventure sdn bhd in taman midah. Apparently they also carry all other brands such as deuter and they also locally manufacture some backpack. Are these genuine product?
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This co. have been around quite long time. Like more than 20yrs. It sell alot outdoor product and produce some tent too. They have another shop in campell, chow kit. But not sure still there.
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Hi guys,
I want to buy a new bag for my trip to gunung batu puteh end of this month. I've been using Deuter for the past 12 years and really trust the brand but after seeing this thread, now i'm having second thoughts about buying it.

I went to tearproof at the curve today and the sales guy told me to buy Osprey but the price is just to expensive.

Osprey atmos 50 - RM586
Osprey atmos 60 - RM589

Then I went to another shop at One Utama, saw them selling Deuter. I'm not sure whether it's ori or not but i just asked the price

Deuter Futura 40+10 Vario - RM479.20
Deuter Futura 50+10 Vario - RM487.20

So which one do you recommend?
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hello all

i am a backpack lover and have been traveling around places with my karrimor backpack 65 litres backpack. as i fly a lot, i must say, many of the snap buckles went missing after airport luggage check-in, possibly due to rough handling of airport workers (and also because my backpack is often very heavy).

do you guys have the same problem too? i've tried putting a raincover over it but the material is filmsy and i'm worried it falls out/gets torn or other travellers might mistaken it as their own bag. sweat.gif
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Hi Benud99...try put the packs on (both brands) with some weight in it. If you can, bring some of your stuff or gear that you will be packing with you often to the shop and try packing them in, and then try them on. Walk around and see how comfy they are. Ospreys are great packs and I have a tendency to cast my personal vote for them smile.gif

GI Jane...yes, what you described happened to your pack is a common problem. I have friends who had their entire pack ripped because of the handling.
There are several options/ solutions for this.

1...you plastic wrap your pack entirely. Most airport offers this service these days. Though it will make your pack look like sandwich at the end of the day smile.gif

2...you get a pack-sack specially made for your pack. You can consider using the blue/orange tarp for this. Go to one of those shops that makes covers for lorries and they should be able to knock one out for you fast. Shapes like a 'beg guni' but with a drawcord on the top to tie off the pack. I use this method although it add a bit of weight to the pack. So, what I do is that I also use the same 'sack' as a tarp or mat to lie on when I sleep on 'dirtier' surfaces.

3...get some musking tape. Use masking tape and wrap all the buckles

4...use back your rain cover is fine. But consider using belt buckles that goes around the pack. Use these belt buckles to with straps to hold the fly sheet in place. That way, they are sturdier and will not come loose on its own.

Hope that helps smile.gif
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Hi Keong and all sifu... I m looking for a backpack for my gf for our budget 6 months trip to new zealand..

she is insterested in this High Sierra Compass travel backpack http://www.shopbags.com/Travel-Backpacks/H...pack-review.asp

Any comment on this back? it is selling quite cheap in singapore as there is a promotion (approx S$86), while Malaysia is selling at approx RM500...

Is it durable and can it be used for some armature hiking when needed?

thanks ya
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Phew... Just finished reading all the pages but I don't think I absorbed them all. Anyway, since I study in Australia, is it better for me to get a macpac there? Is it cheaper in Aus then in M'sia?

I was actually looking at the Deuter Futura Pro 42 for an event called Inward Bound. They will send us with our eyes masked to a unknown place and map will be given to us to run back to the designated location. I am going to participate in one of the lowest division which is about 20-30KM. I am going to use this bag to travel around Australia as well.
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QUOTE(ahteok @ Feb 8 2010, 10:53 AM)
Hi Keong and all sifu... I m looking for a backpack for my gf for our budget 6 months trip to new zealand..

she is insterested in this High Sierra Compass travel backpack http://www.shopbags.com/Travel-Backpacks/H...pack-review.asp

Any comment on this back? it is selling quite cheap in singapore as there is a promotion (approx S$86), while Malaysia is selling at approx RM500...

Is it durable and can it be used for some armature hiking when needed?

thanks ya
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Hi ahteok...
Wow...New Zealand. Envy you guys. It depends on how you will be traveling in NZ. If you guys are backpacking 100%, meaning you will be carrying your pack with you all the time, then yes, a hybrid or convertible pack like the one you mentioned is okay. HS are okay but they are not really built for serious use and abuse. NZ terrain is rough, that is why many of the packs from NZ are almost bombproof. You mention Spore, so I take it that you have visited Sports Connection outlet. In recent months, some of their retail outlets have been closed down because of drop in sale. Go to Shaw plaza, there is one there still, ground floor. 6 months in NZ, I suggest you go for something better.

By the way, the other way to travel in NZ is to buy a van. It may cost you a bit more but it gives you GREAT flexibility in terms of going places, and with a van, you can sleep inside, which is something really common. My friend just came back a few months back. They bought a van for under NZD5000 with a bed behind. Travelled the entire country in 6 months, seen lots of places and saved a LOT on accommodation. I would strongly suggest that you do not try to camp out in NZ unless you are very well verse and well equipped with the right tent. Buy your gear here, much cheaper here.

Hope that helps.


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Phew... Just finished reading all the pages but I don't think I absorbed them all. Anyway, since I study in Australia, is it better for me to get a macpac there? Is it cheaper in Aus then in M'sia?

I was actually looking at the Deuter Futura Pro 42 for an event called Inward Bound. They will send us with our eyes masked to a unknown place and map will be given to us to run back to the designated location. I am going to participate in one of the lowest division which is about 20-30KM. I am going to use this bag to travel around Australia as well.
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Hi LKM....macpacs are great packs. They are cheaper in Spore but not available in Malaysia at all. Other brands you can look at are Wilderness Equipment (I like this brand), One Planet (the Ferrari of backpacks in AUS), Mountain Designs and of course Kathmandu. All these are very popular australian brands.

I honestly think a Deuter 42 liters pack may be a bit small for you, I would personally go for something between 50 to 65 liters for use in Australia, especially on trips. This is my suggestion, pack all the things you think you need on your trip into a bag. Bring it to the shop and try out a few packs by stuffing in the things. Give a 20% spare room for extra stuff (food, raincoat etc). You may need a bigger pack for use there because unlike Malaysia, you would need bulky clothing to keep you warm at nite. Not to mention the sleeping bags. This would give you a good idea on what size of pack you ought to get.

If you are on a budget, go and look in ebay Australia. Prices of the brands mentioned above will likely be very high on ebay.au BUT brands from the US are very cheap there. Australians somehow love the brands they are used to, so its an upper hand for you. I'd recommend you look at brand names like Osprey, Gregory, Karrimor or even Berghaus. I bought a few when I was down there, really happy with them.

Hope that helps.

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Hi ahteok...
Wow...New Zealand. Envy you guys. It depends on how you will be traveling in NZ. If you guys are backpacking 100%, meaning you will be carrying your pack with you all the time, then yes, a hybrid or convertible pack like the one you mentioned is okay. HS are okay but they are not really built for serious use and abuse. NZ terrain is rough, that is why many of the packs from NZ are almost bombproof. You mention Spore, so I take it that you have visited Sports Connection outlet. In recent months, some of their retail outlets have been closed down because of drop in sale. Go to Shaw plaza, there is one there still, ground floor. 6 months in NZ, I suggest you go for something better.

By the way, the other way to travel in NZ is to buy a van. It may cost you a bit more but it gives you GREAT flexibility in terms of going places, and with a van, you can sleep inside, which is something really common. My friend just came back a few months back. They bought a van for under NZD5000 with a bed behind. Travelled the entire country in 6 months, seen lots of places and saved a LOT on accommodation. I would strongly suggest that you do not try to camp out in NZ unless you are very well verse and well equipped with the right tent. Buy your gear here, much cheaper here.

Hope that helps.

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Hi Keong~

Thanks for your advice! yes, we went down to Sport Connection at Shaw Plaza the other day and my gf she just loved that pack... @@ there are many other brands too. I like Osprey but they are just toooo expansive... way too much exceeded our budget.. haha.. Finally, my gf went down by her own last night and bought the pack.. use it to pack her CNY stuff immediately.

I tried to carry it which weighted about 15kg.. overall is still ok.. the built of the pack seems not too bad.. most of the weight distributed to my hips, the shoulder felt nothing at all... my only concern is the pack's base is joint together by the zip which separated into 2 compartments, dono whether it will tear off completely if overweight or serious abused.. haha... but.. so far so good.. tried walking it in 15kg for ard 2-3km.. still in 1 piece yet~~ tongue.gif the price of S$86 is quite a good deal.. however... i find it is not so suitable for women though.. especially shorter 1.. the shoulder strap couldn't fix firmly to the upper shoulder if the gal is short. The chest strap just in awkward position.. i suppose it should be above the breast rather than below.. might have to do some modification to the chest strap by our own.. tongue.gif

We planned to buy a vehicle in nz too.. but not sure will get a camper van or not. thanks for your great suggestion, will try to consider tat with other backpacking mate too... don think we will actually carry the back and walk in the wild to look for accommodation.. haha... we might do some amateur hiking though.. i ever think of trying camping at least once there.. but i also afraid to be frozen in the wild.. haha.. i will not do tat unless rented suitable gear there and accompanied by experience guide/ranger... tongue.gif

Hey Keong... I have some question about maintenance to backpack if you don't mind... I have a Deuter Aircomfort 65+15 backpack.. not the new aircomfort system but the previous version. The coating (perhaps water repellent) inside the pack seems to become dusty feel and some black/grey powdery substance found on the inner side of the pack. The overall condition of the pack is still good.
Is there anyway to overcome this? I m using it for my NZ trip.. don wish to get dusty grey substance to stick on my clothes... tongue.gif Is water repellent spray useful? Product like Nikwax or something like tat can improve the condition and its water repellent? if yes.. where can i get those and roughly how much does it cost?

Thanks in advance~~~
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Hi Keong~

Thanks for your advice! yes, we went down to Sport Connection at Shaw Plaza the other day and my gf she just loved that pack... @@ there are many other brands too. I like Osprey but they are just toooo expansive... way too much exceeded our budget.. haha.. Finally, my gf went down by her own last night and bought the pack.. use it to pack her CNY stuff immediately.

I tried to carry it which weighted about 15kg.. overall is still ok.. the built of the pack seems not too bad.. most of the weight distributed to my hips, the shoulder felt nothing at all... my only concern is the pack's base is joint together by the zip which separated into 2 compartments, dono whether it will tear off completely if overweight or serious abused.. haha... but.. so far so good.. tried walking it in 15kg for ard 2-3km.. still in 1 piece yet~~ tongue.gif the price of S$86 is quite a good deal.. however... i find it is not so suitable for women though.. especially shorter 1.. the shoulder strap couldn't fix firmly to the upper shoulder if the gal is short. The chest strap just in awkward position.. i suppose it should be above the breast rather than below.. might have to do some modification to the chest strap by our own.. tongue.gif

We planned to buy a vehicle in nz too.. but not sure will get a camper van or not. thanks for your great suggestion, will try to consider tat with other backpacking mate too... don think we will actually carry the back and walk in the wild to look for accommodation.. haha... we might do some amateur hiking though.. i ever think of trying camping at least once there.. but i also afraid to be frozen in the wild.. haha.. i will not do tat unless rented suitable gear there and accompanied by experience guide/ranger... tongue.gif

Hey Keong... I have some question about maintenance to backpack if you don't mind... I have a Deuter Aircomfort 65+15 backpack.. not the new aircomfort system but the previous version. The coating (perhaps water repellent) inside the pack seems to become dusty feel and some black/grey powdery substance found on the inner side of the pack. The overall condition of the pack is still good.
Is there anyway to overcome this? I m using it for my NZ trip.. don wish to get dusty grey substance to stick on my clothes... tongue.gif Is water repellent spray useful? Product like Nikwax or something like tat can improve the condition and its water repellent? if yes.. where can i get those and roughly how much does it cost?

Thanks in advance~~~
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Hi ahteok! Wow...if I knew your GF was going down to Sg, would have asked her a favor to bring back a pack for me!! He..he..
NVM that smile.gif

About the 'zip' that separates the two inner compartment, I am not sure which zip you are talking about. If it is the INNER zip that separates the top and bottom compartment, then I honestly never use them. I find them a nuisance honestly. But if you find them useful, I think one way s to make sure that the lower compartment is filled so that the stress from the upper compartment does not break the zippers.


All packs made of cordura like material will have the 'flaking' problem you mentioned. The 'dust' or 'powder' you describe is actually the waterproof coating. After some time, this coating will surely come off. I have seen it in almost every backpack EXCEPT for Macpac because the use cotton based materials.

There are several ways of dealing with it. One thing is for sure, your pack will not be water repellent anymore. Don't worry about waterproofing, it is just a sale gimmick. NO pack is waterproof unless you invest your hard earned money in brands like Arcteryx. I think the best solution for you is to try to remove the 'powder' as much as possible. Yes, they will stick to clothes etc in your pack and that is just very messy. You can slowly brush them off. What a friend of mind did was to put the entire pack into a washing machine, (remove all metal pieces first), put inside the bag a few rough steel wool and wait and see.

BUT since you will be going for a trip soon, maybe its not a good idea to try something like the above. My recomendation is that yoiu brush off as much as you can. Also, am not sure how you want to pack your pack but it is a good idea to waterproof everything in your pack. Two ways you can do this.

A...the more expensive way...buy pack liners, these are soft, silicone impregnated nylon. They can be costly but weighs almost nothing. But about 3 for your gear. Put clothes in them, so that they are waterproofed and then kept inside your pack

B...the cheaper (my way) method is to invest in some high quality black garbage bags. These bags are NOT easy to tear and they are solid. Buy a few, some extras just in case. They work the same but so much cheaper on your wallet.

You can use Nikwax if you like but I won't bother. They work better for jackets etc. For packs, just get a rain cover. I honestly think that nomatter what you apply on your pack, it will get wet, your clothes will only survive IF you waterproof them INSIDE your pack.

Well my friend, I really do hope you and your friends have a good time in NZ. Take lots of pics yeah.
Hope this helps!


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QUOTE(Keong @ Feb 10 2010, 04:02 PM)
Hi ahteok! Wow...if I knew your GF was going down to Sg, would have asked her a favor to bring back a pack for me!! He..he..
NVM that smile.gif

About the 'zip' that separates the two inner compartment, I am not sure which zip you are talking about. If it is the INNER zip that separates the top and bottom compartment, then I honestly never use them. I find them a nuisance honestly. But if you find them useful, I think one way s to make sure that the lower compartment is filled so that the stress from the upper compartment does not break the zippers.
All packs made of cordura like material will have the 'flaking' problem you mentioned. The 'dust' or 'powder' you describe is actually the waterproof coating. After some time, this coating will surely come off. I have seen it in almost every backpack EXCEPT for Macpac because the use cotton based materials.

There are several ways of dealing with it. One thing is for sure, your pack will not be water repellent anymore. Don't worry about waterproofing, it is just a sale gimmick. NO pack is waterproof unless you invest your hard earned money in brands like Arcteryx. I think the best solution for you is to try to remove the 'powder' as much as possible. Yes, they will stick to clothes etc in your pack and that is just very messy. You can slowly brush them off. What a friend of mind did was to put the entire pack into a washing machine, (remove all metal pieces first), put inside the bag a few rough steel wool and wait and see.

BUT since you will be going for a trip soon, maybe its not a good idea to try something like the above. My recomendation is that yoiu brush off as much as you can. Also, am not sure how you want to pack your pack but it is a good idea to waterproof everything in your pack. Two ways you can do this.

A...the more expensive way...buy pack liners, these are soft, silicone impregnated nylon. They can be costly but weighs almost nothing. But about 3 for your gear. Put clothes in them, so that they are waterproofed and then kept inside your pack

B...the cheaper (my way) method is to invest in some high quality black garbage bags. These bags are NOT easy to tear and they are solid. Buy a few, some extras just in case. They work the same but so much cheaper on your wallet.

You can use Nikwax if you like but I won't bother. They work better for jackets etc. For packs, just get a rain cover. I honestly think that nomatter what you apply on your pack, it will get wet, your clothes will only survive IF you waterproof them INSIDE your pack.

Well my friend, I really do hope you and your friends have a good time in NZ. Take lots of pics yeah.
Hope this helps!
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hey Keong, Thanks very much for the information! all these are very helpful!!

actually we are currently working in singapore, going back to hometown for CNY tonight~ will be using the new packs she's just bought and my "powdery" pack.. haha~ i have just done washing it with body shampoo and dried it using washing machine last week... dare not to really scrub them bcz afraid of damaging the pack..

we will only be going to nz in april.. so, i can still do u a favor to get a pack from here if u wan to... i often going back to kl at least once a month... just let me know and i will try if i can help^^

thanks for all the advice ya.. i will try to get some fine garbage bag later and pack my stuff to bring back home tomorrow~~

Happy CNY !!

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QUOTE(ahteok @ Feb 11 2010, 09:19 AM)
hey Keong, Thanks very much for the information! all these are very helpful!!

actually we are currently working in singapore, going back to hometown for CNY tonight~ will be using the new packs she's just bought and my "powdery" pack.. haha~ i have just done washing it with body shampoo and dried it using washing machine last week... dare not to really scrub them bcz afraid of damaging the pack..

we will only be going to nz in april.. so, i can still do u a favor to get a pack from here if u wan to... i often going back to kl at least once a month... just let me know and i will try if i can help^^

thanks for all the advice ya.. i will try to get some fine garbage bag later and pack my stuff to bring back home tomorrow~~

Happy CNY !!
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Thank you and you too have a great roaring CNY!
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Thought I share my experience with the UFL outlet in Bangsar Jln Telawi 5.

Just bought the Deuter Spider with them (looks like this one: http://www.outdoorgb.com/p/deuter_spider_2...orts_backpack/). Was told it's very new model and just arrived late Jan 2010.

On the contrary of what I read in earlier post, the gentlemen in the shop attending to me is very helpful. I spent about 1 1/2 hours there, went through almost all the possible bag that fits my criteria. Open all the zips, putting them on etc. Also tried the laptop bags as well and put in all my laptop sutff in it to try. No problem for me trying them out.

Price wise, I didn't compare with any other shops, but I did Google around the local online shops selling at a few red notes cheaper. But I think it's reasonable, since it should be genuine and for the peace of mind. Maybe I didn't really bargain a lot also, as I'm not the bargaining type.
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QUOTE(chekai @ Feb 24 2010, 11:23 PM)
Thought I share my experience with the UFL outlet in Bangsar Jln Telawi 5.

Just bought the Deuter Spider with them (looks like this one: http://www.outdoorgb.com/p/deuter_spider_2...orts_backpack/). Was told it's very new model and just arrived late Jan 2010.

On the contrary of what I read in earlier post, the gentlemen in the shop attending to me is very helpful. I spent about 1 1/2 hours there, went through almost all the possible bag that fits my criteria. Open all the zips, putting them on etc. Also tried the laptop bags as well and put in all my laptop sutff in it to try. No problem for me trying them out.

Price wise, I didn't compare with any other shops, but I did Google around the local online shops selling at a few red notes cheaper. But I think it's reasonable, since it should be genuine and for the peace of mind. Maybe I didn't really bargain a lot also, as I'm not the bargaining type.
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Hi Chekai! Good on you. Personally, I think retailers charging a bit more is okay but not TOO much more. They need to support the market, then only the market will grow.

Great, one thumbs up for UFL.
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QUOTE(Keong @ Feb 9 2010, 05:22 PM)
Hi LKM....macpacs are great packs. They are cheaper in Spore but not available in Malaysia at all. Other brands you can look at are Wilderness Equipment (I like this brand), One Planet (the Ferrari of backpacks in AUS), Mountain Designs and of course Kathmandu. All these are very popular australian brands.

I honestly think a Deuter 42 liters pack may be a bit small for you, I would personally go for something between 50 to 65 liters for use in Australia, especially on trips. This is my suggestion, pack all the things you think you need on your trip into a bag. Bring it to the shop and try out a few packs by stuffing in the things. Give a 20% spare room for extra stuff (food, raincoat etc). You may need a bigger pack for use there because unlike Malaysia, you would need bulky clothing to keep you warm at nite. Not to mention the sleeping bags. This would give you a good idea on what size of pack you ought to get.

If you are on a budget, go and look in ebay Australia. Prices of the brands mentioned above will likely be very high on ebay.au BUT brands from the US are very cheap there. Australians somehow love the brands they are used to, so its an upper hand for you. I'd recommend you look at brand names like Osprey, Gregory, Karrimor or even Berghaus. I bought a few when I was down there, really happy with them.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks for your suggestion. I have visited Macpack, Mountain Design and Kathmandu. They seem to be very expensive. I am looking for a pack for an event like Amazing Race. I am looking at pack around 30L. I am also looking for 3L water bladder, head light (ranging from $30-100 in Kathmandu =.= ), thermal and water proof jacket.

Why is a water-proof jacket so ridiculously priced in Australia? (AUD350-500)

Did you suggest me buying US brands from eBay Australia? Do you mind to list me some recommended packs?

Thank you. smile.gif
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hey guys, if anyone of u all know where can i get a good 65liter backpack ? thenorthface, deuter , karrimore...
Thank u....hehe
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"Why is a water-proof jacket so ridiculously priced in Australia? (AUD350-500)"

well, that's not really ridiculous, that's market price. for a good jacket, expect to spend about mr 2K +. yep, you read me right.....

it hurts when you earn in RM , but spend in AUD..... cry.gif
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QUOTE(nadir @ Apr 2 2010, 11:43 AM)
"Why is a water-proof jacket so ridiculously priced in Australia? (AUD350-500)"

well, that's not really ridiculous, that's market price. for a good jacket, expect to spend about mr 2K +. yep, you read me right.....

it hurts when you earn in RM , but spend in AUD.....  cry.gif
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Why are they so expensive?
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Fabric/material = lightweight,breathable,water deflection rate,weather protection,moisture management.The sort where our typically run of the mill chapalang baju hujan kuning won't ever have.

And technically it's not designed to work like a baju hujan kuning at comfort level.Factors like possibility of hiding a fanny or hydro pack around the waist and lower back are counted into the design and cut.
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Hello Ah Keong and all forumers here,

I'm new and planning to buy a bagpack. I saw one, Jean Francos brand. I'm planning to buy a 80L - fit both mine and my bf's stuffs. I am planning to use it to go Vietnam for 6 days, going SAPA for trekking also. but i have a few question:

1) is 80L an okay size for two person? We will be having another backpack for our camera, so we're not going to get two bagpack
2) is jean francos a good brand?
3) putting my vietname trip aside, is Jean Francos a good investment?

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QUOTE(miyoko @ Apr 5 2010, 12:05 AM)
Hello Ah Keong and all forumers here,

I'm new and planning to buy a bagpack. I saw one, Jean Francos brand. I'm planning to buy a 80L - fit both mine and my bf's stuffs. I am planning to use it to go Vietnam for 6 days, going SAPA for trekking also. but i have a few question:

1) is 80L an okay size for two person? We will be having another backpack for our camera, so we're not going to get two bagpack
2) is jean francos a good brand?
3) putting my vietname trip aside, is Jean Francos a good investment?
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Hi Miyoko...

I have never heard of that brand to be honest.
I would not invest in a pack that I have not heard off or can't find information on the internet.

Check earlier posts on this thread for more infor on how to choose and what to look for.

Looking at the post above, you should give Nadir from Outdoor Dynamics a call. I know him for being an honest guy and will recommend you something good value for your money. Lowe Alpine (the brand Nadir carries) is a good brand and worth the investment. I know cause I am using one now smile.gif

Good luck!
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Bought an Osprey Kestrel 32l recently but unfortunately the 'top handler' cant even support the recommended weight at the 4th/5th time (broken after came out from cargo).

What a disappoinment and such warning not even exist in the manual. Plus, Bodypac failed to live up to the expection of 2 weeks of turnaround time for the backpack to be repaired.
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Apr 26 2010, 12:50 PM)
Bought an Osprey Kestrel 32l recently but unfortunately the 'top handler' cant even support the recommended weight at the 4th/5th time (broken after came out from cargo).

What a disappoinment and such warning not even exist in the manual. Plus, Bodypac failed to live up to the expection of 2 weeks of turnaround time for the backpack to be repaired.
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Oh WOW...this is the first time I hear this.
What did you pack in it anyway?

You can consider writing to Osprey directly and see what they say. I heard their customer service is quite good.

But I have to say, that is the problem also with packs these days. They are going for 'lighter is better' and with that obviously thinner material. Retailers and manufacturers can try to talk and convince me till the day cow can fly but for me, lighter packs means trimming on material, sewings etc. This will eventually effect the pack's strength I reckon. Unless of course if the pack is made entirely of spectra tongue.gif

Go write to Osprey and let us all know how it turns out.
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Hi guys ,
need help here . i am checking in my deuter backpack 60L into the airplane and i am afraid that it will scratch or spoil my backpack during the flight .

what do you guys do usually to protect the backpack ? other than buying a flight cover ( it's quite expensive ) . or you guys just check in the backpack ? advise needed . thanks ! =)
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I dealt with Bodypac directly since they are the principal/distributor but it's not their customer service that responding to me.. doh.gif
It was packed with clothes and half a dozen of bottled birdnest.. brows.gif ..that's what it took to break.

They've managed to repair it for me but that took more than 2 weeks and more shockingly, i was told that this is a known problem.. doh.gif
Actually based on the material itself is already not that convincing but never expect it would be decapitated on the 1st visit to the cargo.
Maybe not all Osprey are having such thing but for me, i'll be damn reluctant to buy any Osprey product again.


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QUOTE(Ethanps3 @ May 2 2010, 05:23 AM)
Hi guys ,
need help here . i am checking in my deuter backpack 60L into the airplane and i am afraid that it will scratch or spoil my backpack during the flight .

what do you guys do usually to protect the backpack ? other than buying a flight cover ( it's quite expensive ) . or you guys just check in the backpack ? advise needed . thanks ! =)
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Just use rain-cover will do and no chance at all it can go into the cabin..lol..
By the way, backpack is not handbag.. biggrin.gif

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tungfunglaw...sorry to hear about your disappointing experience with Osprey. But I think you would get good reply if you contacted Osprey directly and explain to them your predicament.
In any case, I think we have to give Bodypac some credit don you think so?
What other brands would give any of such service?
Deuter? I don think so.
What do you think?



Ethanps3...there are some 'cheaper' ways to protect your bag. Like tungfunglaw said, you can use a rain cover (that covers the ENTIRE pack) OR alternatively, you can get one made. Just go to Kamdar, select a material that you think is reasonably strong yet lightweight and get it stitched up like a gunny sack with a draw cord on one end. Pop your pack inside, tie up the draw cord and you are set!
Well...this is what I did for my pack when I traveled to Japan years ago. Works ok for me rclxms.gif

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Anyone heard of grivel mont blanc alpine? Dun know if its worth it. I really like the colour. Any suggestion?
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Hi sifu Keong and all other experts, I need a little advice. biggrin.gif

Heard that you guys mention about buying packs in Singapore (with bigger discounts?)? As I might be heading to Sg in a few days or in June, was thinking that I might drop by to check out their packs there. May I know where is Shaw Plaza located? Any other places in Sg that sells packs at affordable prices?

Also, I wanted to get a 30L backpack for my 7 day trip in Vietnam, do you think that a RM200 budget makes sense if I'm aiming for a durable bag (doesn't matter the brand). biggrin.gif Thanks a lot in advance!
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QUOTE(Keong @ May 8 2010, 11:15 AM)
tungfunglaw...sorry to hear about your disappointing experience with Osprey. But I think you would get good reply if you contacted Osprey directly and explain to them your predicament.
In any case, I think we have to give Bodypac some credit don you think so?
What other brands would give any of such service?
Deuter? I don think so.
What do you think?
I'm not saying that their service is bad but it's the response from mgmt that surprised me.. laugh.gif
By right, they should have CS to deal with the customers and i never blame them since it's not manufactured by them.
Response from Osprey is an apology and it's a manufacturing error on this backpack..that's all..
Material quality is there but have to be careful..

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Hi, i'm new here. Can anyone recommend me a good backpack for backpacking? Which brand and what size i should look for? smile.gif
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outdoor product from indonesia....good quality...
http://www.eigeradventure.com

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Hi, i'm new here. Can anyone recommend me a good backpack for backpacking? Which brand and what size i should look for? smile.gif
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Hi Arjenayai....consider going back to the entire thread. It discusses a lot about brands as well was what to look for when choosing a backpack.

A brand that is gaining popularity now is actually the Lowe Alpine and the Ospreys. Lowe Alpine is carried by an online company called Outdoor Dynamics in Penang and Osprey can be viewed at Tearproof (MidValley, Berjaya Times Square & KLCC).

Of course the normal brands like Deuter, Karrimor, Lafuma and Millet is always available.

I would recommend that you stick to established brands but also know what you are looking for. Don't get too carried away trying to find the perfect backpack. Buy it to your needs.


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Hi, may I know if anyone tried packs that are made of Hyperlite (material)? Are they as durable and strong as the conventional material used for other packs? I saw some from the Lowe Alpine catalogue and it seems tempting as I'm quite tiny and 2kg for an empty pack sound rather heavy.

Btw, what is the price range I should expect if I were to get a 25l - 30l pack from Sports Connection Sg? I'll be heading in next Thursday and I'll be only converting 300SGD. ^^

Thanks!

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Hi, may I know if anyone tried packs that are made of Hyperlite (material)? Are they as durable and strong as the conventional material used for other packs? I saw some from the Lowe Alpine catalogue and it seems tempting as I'm quite tiny and 2kg for an empty pack sound rather heavy.

Btw, what is the price range I should expect if I were to get a 25l - 30l pack from Sports Connection Sg? I'll be heading in next Thursday and I'll be only converting 300SGD. ^^

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Hi peppermilk....Lowe Alpine are really good packs I think. I use one of their models and am very happy with them

The whole 'idea' behind packing light. light packs etc I personally think is the 'pack' manufacturer's way of creating new segments for the market. Nothing wrong with that but it all boils down to creating more sales for them. The major trade off for 'light' packs I think is the material's strength. Some of these 'light' materials can be as strong as the old school cordura etc but putting them up against the abuse of the jungle will prove otherwise. In the jungle, we have thorns and all sort of other things that will give packs (and us) living hell. Rattan vines for example will rip even the human skin, let alone thin, lightweight fabrics.

If your budget for a pack from Sports COnnection is at SGD300, I think you will be happy to know that you can have quite some balance from your purchase. It is more than enough for a 25L-30L pack, as long as you steer away from brands like Arcteryx and Macpac smile.gif

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Hi peppermilk....Lowe Alpine are really good packs I think. I use one of their models and am very happy with them

The whole 'idea' behind packing light. light packs etc I personally think is the 'pack' manufacturer's way of creating new segments for the market. Nothing wrong with that but it all boils down to creating more sales for them. The major trade off for 'light' packs I think is the material's strength. Some of these 'light' materials can be as strong as the old school cordura etc but putting them up against the abuse of the jungle will prove otherwise. In the jungle, we have thorns and all sort of other things that will give packs (and us) living hell. Rattan vines for example will rip even the human skin, let alone thin, lightweight fabrics.

If your budget for a pack from Sports COnnection is at SGD300, I think you will be happy to know that you can have quite some balance from your purchase. It is more than enough for a 25L-30L pack, as long as you steer away from brands like Arcteryx and Macpac smile.gif

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Hi sifu Keong, thank you so much for your advice, really appreciate it biggrin.gif I think it wouldn't be much of a problem for me as I will only use the pack for backpack travelling. But maybe I will get a condura pack if it isn't very heavy. ^^;;

My friend has a budget of 150SGD, from your opinion, will she be able to get a good 25L - 30L pack? Not extremely good, but enough for a few years of backpacking.

Thank you so much!!!!!

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QUOTE(peppermilk @ Jun 6 2010, 03:11 PM)
Hi sifu Keong, thank you so much for your advice, really appreciate it biggrin.gif I think it wouldn't be much of a problem for me as I will only use the pack for backpack travelling. But maybe I will get a condura pack if it isn't very heavy. ^^;;

My friend has a budget of 150SGD, from your opinion, will she be able to get a good 25L - 30L pack? Not extremely good, but enough for a few years of backpacking.

Thank you so much!!!!!
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Hi Peppermilk....

Yes, for SGD150, you can get a reasonable pack in Singapore.
Also....here is a TIP for you. Before you go, browse ebay singapore. There can be some really good bargains there.

Good luck!
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Hi Peppermilk....

Yes, for SGD150, you can get a reasonable pack in Singapore.
Also....here is a TIP for you. Before you go, browse ebay singapore. There can be some really good bargains there.

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Arigatou gozaimasu sifu Keong!! smile.gif We'll be checking ebay sg tonight.
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hi keong ssi...i'm quite confuse about the market price for deuter..i'm going to "jalan2" only for 8 days rclxm9.gif ..and thinking of buying a deuter backpack...
after i read ur's & other's post..n make a lil tour @ pertama complexe..(met auntie sia...) the price of deuter bag is an average around 300++...the same manufactured company - vietnam..but i do found at Mudah.com.my.. the same brand which manufactured by the same country selling at very low price...less than 200...can u guide me with this? hmm.gif is it tey offer the same quality or wat... icon_question.gif
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Malaysian always look for Deuter... haiya...

Try Jack Wolfskin. Wanna know more then google. Among best selling brands in Europe.
Where to get? Ehem ehem...
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hi keong ssi...i'm quite confuse about the market price for deuter..i'm going to "jalan2" only for 8 days  rclxm9.gif ..and thinking of buying a deuter backpack...
after i read ur's & other's post..n make a lil tour @ pertama complexe..(met auntie sia...) the price of deuter bag is an average around 300++...the same manufactured company - vietnam..but i do found at Mudah.com.my.. the same brand which manufactured by the same country selling at very low price...less than 200...can u guide me with this? hmm.gif  is it tey offer the same quality or wat... icon_question.gif
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Hi Nejin...fake...fake...fake.
There are so many fake Deuter in the market that I am so scared of them.

I would categorize the 'fakes' into 2 categories:

1...lousy fake
2...'replicas'

Lousy fakes can be easily recognized. They are very badly made and the designs don't look like anything of the original ones.

It is the 'replicas' that are hard to differentiate. Some claim that these replicas comes from the 'real' factories themselves. Where ever they come from, they are still fakes. They are called replicas because they make them almost identical to the real items. It is like fake LV and Gucci bags at Petaling Street I suppose!

To be honest, I have heard about some well known shops in KL selling replica Deuters. After all, they do look exactly like the real one!! So, how to solve this? Stay away from Deuter!!
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jun 6 2010, 07:02 AM)
Hi Arjenayai....consider going back to the entire thread. It discusses a lot about brands as well was what to look for when choosing a backpack.

A brand that is gaining popularity now is actually the Lowe Alpine and the Ospreys. Lowe Alpine is carried by an online company called Outdoor Dynamics in Penang and Osprey can be viewed at Tearproof (MidValley, Berjaya Times Square & KLCC).

Of course the normal brands like Deuter, Karrimor, Lafuma and Millet is always available.

I would recommend that you stick to established brands but also know what you are looking for. Don't get too carried away trying to find the perfect backpack. Buy it to your needs.
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Hi Keong,

I've read through the entire thread and found out that you replied almost everyone's question 1 by 1. I really respect you for that!

Anyway, i'm new here as well. Bought myself a Deuter Cross City for around RM270 two years back from an online dealer. Made that decision cos' i actually thought of getting one and only one that is tough enough to support my travelling, outdoor trekking, light outing etc. But, like what you've said in the earlier thread. The buckle does seem a lil awkward, the stitches are like "senget" at some point and there are a lot more "problems" with Deuter. SIGH.

Now, i plan to get New backpack that long-lasting and TOUGH! Surveyed many brands and narrowed down to Jansport, Macpac, Lowe Alpine, Lafuma or Millet.
Vertikal is like plastic.
Deuter,had a bad experience.
Nike, addidas, reebok etc. ...are not tough enough.

Jansport, what do u think about it?
Macpac, sumone told me that its for MAC only?
Lowe Alpine, ok la. But doesn't have the airflow back system like Deuter.
Lafuma, reliable if i'm going for those huge 40L backpacks.
Millet, their boots/hiking shoes are nice.
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Hi Keong,

I've read through the entire thread and found out that you replied almost everyone's question 1 by 1. I really respect you for that!

Anyway, i'm new here as well. Bought myself a Deuter Cross City for around RM270 two years back from an online dealer. Made that decision cos' i actually thought of getting one and only one that is tough enough to support my travelling, outdoor trekking, light outing etc. But, like what you've said in the earlier thread. The buckle does seem a lil awkward, the stitches are like "senget" at some point and there are a lot more "problems" with Deuter. SIGH.

Now, i plan to get New backpack that long-lasting and TOUGH! Surveyed many brands and narrowed down to Jansport, Macpac, Lowe Alpine, Lafuma or Millet.
Vertikal is like plastic.
Deuter,had a bad experience.
Nike, addidas, reebok etc. ...are not tough enough.

Jansport, what do u think about it?
Macpac, sumone told me that its for MAC only?
Lowe Alpine, ok la. But doesn't have the airflow back system like Deuter.
Lafuma, reliable if i'm going for those huge 40L backpacks.
Millet, their boots/hiking shoes are nice.
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Hi jacktmj!

First of all, thank you for taking the time to read through the entire thread!

Sounds like you are looking for a bombproof pack. personally, there is none...at least none these days. All the brands are looking to sell, make profit and repeat the process over and over again. If they continue making bombproof packs, they will be out of business quick I think.

BUT...having said that, I think you may want to consider two categories of packs.

First are Kiwi brands like Macpac, Wilderness Equipment (OZ brand actually), Fairy Down and maybe One Planet (Oz brand). These packs are known to be bombproof and I have to agree. I own and use some of the above. They are really tough but the trade off is of course the weight and sometimes the comfort.

The other 'category' you'd want to consider are the army models. Berghaus has a model for the British army called Cyclops (well...they used too). You can also look at British Bergen. Oh...are they bomb proof alright. They are made of really good quality material, so good even the infrared scopes can get them (so I was told). I had one a few years back, oh and I have to say...it IS strong the pack. I'd probably break down before the pack does! But they are hard to come by honestly. Try ebay international. most models are DPM (camo) design.

Hope the above helps smile.gif
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jun 13 2010, 08:11 PM)
Hi jacktmj!

First of all, thank you for taking the time to read through the entire thread!

Sounds like you are looking for a bombproof pack. personally, there is none...at least none these days. All the brands are looking to sell, make profit and repeat the process over and over again. If they continue making bombproof packs, they will be out of business quick I think.

BUT...having said that, I think you may want to consider two categories of packs.

First are Kiwi brands like Macpac, Wilderness Equipment (OZ brand actually), Fairy Down and maybe One Planet (Oz brand). These packs are known to be bombproof and I have to agree. I own and use some of the above. They are really tough but the trade off is of course the weight and sometimes the comfort.

The other 'category' you'd want to consider are the army models. Berghaus has a model for the British army called Cyclops (well...they used too). You can also look at British Bergen. Oh...are they bomb proof alright. They are made of really good quality material, so good even the infrared scopes can get them (so I was told). I had one a few years back, oh and I have to say...it IS strong the pack. I'd probably break down before the pack does! But they are hard to come by honestly. Try ebay international. most models are DPM (camo) design.

Hope the above helps smile.gif
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Hi Keong,

Thank you very much for your reply, i appreciate it very much.

At the same time, pardon for my 'misinformation' that i gave earlier. Last night till today, i've been thinking and thinking and thinking, like what you've said, look for gears that i need. So, i've found out what i really need and went to Midvalley to 'hunt' for the rucksack that i'm looking for. Apparently, more and more Deuter(s) are out in the market for sale! Hard to differentiate them though.

Anyway,
the bombproof rucksack that you've suggested are just out of my league, but Great advise! I really appreciate your time spent on sharing with me your knowledge.

What I really Need:-
1) A backpack that fulfills the requirement of a handcarry <15kg.
2) A comfortable backpack which is tough enough to go through scratches and moistures.
3) Best if it has paddings for laptop compartments.
4) Won't sweat a lot?

and... for the past threads... u guys actually went out for a gathering right?


Added on June 15, 2010, 1:26 amoh ya..

In addition,
i wonder if the airflow system like Deuter's to prevent from sweating more, does it really work?

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Hey all, im planning a trip to Southern India from 2nd - 16th July next month. Im interested to get myself a backpack(abt 30L or so) with pouch bag along with a money belt.
Can anyone recommend a backpack with some security features with rain cover?
Ive seen metal wire barbs embedded into the straps to hinder from getting cut off. Im afraid of my
safety and the safety of my belongings. It does sound expensive though but its a well worth investment
since i'll be doing more travelling end year 2010 and next 2011.
Also a good recommendation to look out where to find them. Thanks!
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Hi Jacktmj...

Based on your list of requirements, I assume you'd be looking for something that is under 35liters (as hand carry luggage).

For packs that would probably last longer, truth is, I think you are better off with packs with minimal bells and whistles. Some packs have all sorts of attachements, zippers, pockets and everything under the sun attached on the OUTER side of the pack. The more of this, the more chance they will snag on this, either putting you in trouble (fall etc) or the pack itself will rip.

If you fancy packs that can be organised well with pockets and stuff, consider packs that have INTERNAL compartments. The outer pack is clean without too much 'frills' but the inside has pouches and pockets that will help you organize better. Honestly, not easy to find this sort of pack. The 'closest' I have come to see are tactical packs. You would not believe how 'organized' internally tactical packs can be! But of course tactical packs has a lot of webbings (for attachments etc) but as long as you don't attach anything, it should be fine.

Again, they don come all that cheap. Brands are like Maxpedition, Kifaru, Blackhawk and Platatac.

As for the gathering...naa...did not happen. No takers. I think people are skeptical about my intentions tongue.gif

Deuter's airflow or any pack's 'airflow' system do work to a certain extend. The basic principal behind all the 'techs' I think is to try to keep your back as far away from the pack itself. The more contact it has, the less sweat 'draining' it will be. Most systems are find but I would avoid certain systems where they have metal, plastic of sometimes light aluminium frames that are bent to a certain design and topped up with mesh to separate your body from your pack. This again I think opens the pack to more possible damage. One wrong move and the 'hi-tech' frame will break and that is something you would not want to happen.

Well, hope the above is helpful.
I cannot recomend a particular model because I think at the end of the day, it is still a personal choice. Put together a 'guide' to what you are looking for, go to a store and test it out. Try to close one ear to salesman's talk. They are afterall just wanna get you to buy more and more.
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Hi Keong,

Ouch! The system will break? OMG!

and Yeah! You do know what i'm looking for..
1-Airport Hand Carry Requirements
2-Internal Compartments.

Anyway, please take a look at this:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1301765

Maxpedition. Looks Tough and what i need actually.

Btw, do u have any idea where to get it? As in if they have got a shop in MAlaysia or anything?


Added on June 20, 2010, 11:57 amand yeah, your guide above is EXTREMELY useful!

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i'm using The North Face Skareb 65.. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(jacktmj @ Jun 20 2010, 11:57 AM)
Hi Keong,

Ouch! The system will break? OMG!

and Yeah! You do know what i'm looking for..
1-Airport Hand Carry Requirements
2-Internal Compartments.

Anyway, please take a look at this:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1301765

Maxpedition. Looks Tough and what i need actually.

Btw, do u have any idea where to get it? As in if they have got a shop in MAlaysia or anything?


Added on June 20, 2010, 11:57 amand yeah, your guide above is EXTREMELY useful!
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Hi Jacktmj....

Yes, I know of the guy selling the items on the link you gave above.
You should consider contacting him and see what he has in stock that you can touch and feel.

Otherwise, if you have friends in the US and Australia...try looking at the country's ebay. But it and send the item to your friend in that country to bring back or send back to you. Mind you, not all ebay sellers wanna ship their items internationally. Check before you buy. But on ebay, many times you will get really good deal.

Cheers,
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is the size of the maxpedition vulture II small enough for us to hand carry into plane??
and also is it recommended to use maxpedition backpack for travel??
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Just finish reading entire thread,, fuhh long time didnt read so much alde in LYN..
Ah keong sifu,, salute you for your knowledge and patience replying
all in this thread la..
For me,, its time to start hunting for a new backpack for myself..
Used to get my outdoor gears and my backpacks from a Evergreen factory in Kepong last time.. Recently i went back to look for it,, it had shifted.. Online says that the shifted to Taman Midah Cheras. Any idea if they still selling wide range of backpacks at cheap price there?? Thanks!
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jun 21 2010, 08:19 PM)
Hi Jacktmj....

Yes, I know of the guy selling the items on the link you gave above.
You should consider contacting him and see what he has in stock that you can touch and feel.

Otherwise, if you have friends in the US and Australia...try looking at the country's ebay. But it and send the item to your friend in that country to bring back or send back to you. Mind you, not all ebay sellers wanna ship their items internationally. Check before you buy. But on ebay, many times you will get really good deal.

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Hi Keong,

Will be going to the Bangsar shop and see whether any bag suits what i need anot.
At the same time, I really Appreciate your advices and guides! Thank You Very Much!
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QUOTE(jacktmj @ Jun 25 2010, 03:07 AM)
Hi Keong,

Will be going to the Bangsar shop and see whether any bag suits what i need anot.
At the same time, I really Appreciate your advices and guides! Thank You Very Much!
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Bangsar Shop?? Are you reffering to the UFL, the one next to Mcd at Telawi 5?
If Yes, are they expensive?? has anyone been there?
of what i read from star online, they only sell original stuff. So, dont have to worry about imitations.
Im quite concern about the price, though.
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hi. i need advice from sifu here. i am going to NZ working holiday and backpacking for 6 - 9 months next year. i believe that carrying a backpack is more convenient than a trolley luggage.

how many liter of backpack is recommended? how much the backpack would cost me? i will be going to sg for marathon in early dec. can i save by buying the pack in sg that time?

thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(lpp @ Jul 3 2010, 09:20 PM)
hi. i need advice from sifu here. i am going to NZ working holiday and backpacking for 6 - 9 months next year. i believe that carrying a backpack is more convenient than a trolley luggage.

how many liter of backpack is recommended? how much the backpack would cost me? i will be going to sg for marathon in early dec. can i save by buying the pack in sg that time?

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Hi Ipp...best that you take some time to look through the entire thread.
How big your pack depends on what you want to carry.
But make sure you have space for the bare essential like warm clothing, sleeping bag etc.
But in Sg is a good option I think.
Packs are expensive in NZ unless you happen to chance on a sale.

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Hi Keong,
I'm looking at this thread since I'm planning to get a backpack. Before I notice this thread, all in my mind are just Deuter, Deuter and Deuter. After reading the entire thread, seems like I shall keep Deuter out of my shopping list. Anyway, need your recommendation on these, Millet, Lowe Alpine and Lafuma. These 3 got your good review but I'm looking for a cheaper one. FYI, I'm looking for a backpack which is around 30-40l which can fit in to 56 X 36 X 23cm as I'll be using Air Asia for the coming 2 trips and I only want to carry a hand carry bag. BTW, do you think this kind of size is sufficient for a 6-day trip to Sabah (not much outdoor and jungle trekking)?

Thanks!

Rgds,
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I'm using Vaude. Anyone know of this brand?
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Jul 8 2010, 12:40 AM)
Hi Keong,
I'm looking at this thread since I'm planning to get a backpack. Before I notice this thread, all in my mind are just Deuter, Deuter and Deuter. After reading the entire thread, seems like I shall keep Deuter out of my shopping list. Anyway, need your recommendation on these, Millet, Lowe Alpine and Lafuma. These 3 got your good review but I'm looking for a cheaper one. FYI, I'm looking for a backpack which is around 30-40l which can fit in to 56 X 36 X 23cm as I'll be using Air Asia for the coming 2 trips and I only want to carry a hand carry bag. BTW, do you think this kind of size is sufficient for a 6-day trip to Sabah (not much outdoor and jungle trekking)?

Thanks!

Rgds,
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Hi Bryan...
I will help you but do keep in mind that this is strictly my personal opinion.
It may sound a bit weird but one of the first questions you need to ask yourself is what is your comfort zone like? I know people who can survive a week's trip with just 3 pairs of clothes. One pair for day wear, one for sleeping and the other to rotate when one is being washed! Not many people have that kind of comfort zone I reckon.
Also, I am a BIG person, which means my clothes takes up bigger space that the average guy. So, I need to take that into account as well.
There are other brands like Tatonka too.

Nnigue...yes, I have heard and used Vaude in the past. Good packs.
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jul 8 2010, 01:26 PM)
Hi Bryan...
I will help you but do keep in mind that this is strictly my personal opinion.
It may sound a bit weird but one of the first questions you need to ask yourself is what is your comfort zone like? I know people who can survive a week's trip with just 3 pairs of clothes. One pair for day wear, one for sleeping and the other to rotate when one is being washed! Not many people have that kind of comfort zone I reckon.
Also, I am a BIG person, which means my clothes takes up bigger space that the average guy. So, I need to take that into account as well.
There are other brands like Tatonka too.

Nnigue...yes, I have heard and used Vaude in the past. Good packs.
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Hi Keong,
What if, 8 tshirts(with spare), 2 shorts, + toiletries and other small items? because I will be wearing jeans all the time. if come across any dobi, will send dirty clothes for them to wash too. will be bringing slippers but wearing shoes all the time when walking.

Thanks!
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Bryan...I cannot tell you for certain if it is a yes or no. It is VERY subjective. Some people may travel with little clothes but plenty of other stuff like cameras, laptops, binoculars, extra pairs of shoes, etc. Why not you pack all the things you want and then try to fit them into the pack or something of similar size. That would give you a good idea I reckon.
Also, don forget, you may want some empty space for the things you buy along the way!
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jul 8 2010, 02:51 PM)
Bryan...I cannot tell you for certain if it is a yes or no. It is VERY subjective. Some people may travel with little clothes but plenty of other stuff like cameras, laptops, binoculars, extra pairs of shoes, etc. Why not you pack all the things you want and then try to fit them into the pack or something of similar size. That would give you a good idea I reckon.
Also, don forget, you may want some empty space for the things you buy along the way!
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Hi Keong,
Thanks for the advice! I will try to bring my things and go around and look.
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obviously deuter won most of the votes!! yeehaa~
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Anyone know stores that have a large range of Osprey backpacks? I'm looking for the Osprey Porter 46.

Closest I've seen are some 35L Osprey backpacks, and they're all over RM500! Might have to order online if it's too expensive here...
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Hi Keong,
I went to Midvalley to look around. Went into Tearproof and found out their Osprey are nice! Although it is kinda pricey, still life-time warranty enlightens me a lot! However, it has only 1 compartment inside the bag, is this usual? I check out Deuter too, Deuter has several compartments inside. Checked the Vertikal too at Tearproof. Too bad they are standing beside Osprey, makes them look too bad beside Osprey. Didn't manage to go to UFL, even though reached the shop already. The parking there is damn full! Shall check it out next time. By the way, you mind PM me Nadir's number? I would like to check the Lowe Alpine out.

Thanks!

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Recently bought North Face Surge backpack from Germany, anyone know if there is any outlet in Malaysia and how much does it cost?

Thanks in advance.
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Can try Core Zone in PJ ss24 not only for packs but other stuffs.
http://www.mycorezone.com

OT: me and my friends are planning to get Hennesey Hammock and so far their price are quite reasonable.
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Jul 10 2010, 09:30 PM)
Hi Keong,
I went to Midvalley to look around. Went into Tearproof and found out their Osprey are nice! Although it is kinda pricey, still life-time warranty enlightens me a lot! However, it has only 1 compartment inside the bag, is this usual? I check out Deuter too, Deuter has several compartments inside. Checked the Vertikal too at Tearproof. Too bad they are standing beside Osprey, makes them look too bad beside Osprey. Didn't manage to go to UFL, even though reached the shop already. The parking there is damn full! Shall check it out next time. By the way, you mind PM me Nadir's number? I would like to check the Lowe Alpine out.

Thanks!

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Hi OhNooy....check out Nadir's site at the below. His contact is there as well.

http://www.outdoordynamics.com.my/main.php...e=contact_index



Hennesy hammock are great but not cheap in Malaysia. Buy direct, you can get them.
Some retailed at RM600 plus in Malaysia only costs USD100 online. Plus shipping, you still save loads.

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Hey Keong,

Just went to ss2 checked out the few Vaude and Lafuma and Millet bags.
According to the salesman, Lafuma and Millet are sister companies, and Millet is a much more rugged bag if compared to Lafuma, is that true?
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Hey Keong,

Just went to ss2 checked out the few Vaude and Lafuma and Millet bags.
According to the salesman, Lafuma and Millet are sister companies, and Millet is a much more rugged bag if compared to Lafuma, is that true?
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Hi...I can't say for certain BUT I have seen both brands of packs and I have to say that Millet does produce more packs for 'real' use. Lafuma to a certain extend (like The North Face) seems to do more designs for casual these days.
Hey...this is just my personal opinion.

Hope that helps smile.gif


Added on July 14, 2010, 8:58 pmOh....by the way...the real people who is bringing in Lafuma and Millet into Malaysia is Yellowstone at Bangsar. They may have wider variety there.

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QUOTE(Keong @ Jul 14 2010, 08:57 PM)
Hi...I can't say for certain BUT I have seen both brands of packs and I have to say that Millet does produce more packs for 'real' use. Lafuma to a certain extend (like The North Face) seems to do more designs for casual these days.
Hey...this is just my personal opinion.

Hope that helps smile.gif


Added on July 14, 2010, 8:58 pmOh....by the way...the real people who is bringing in Lafuma and Millet into Malaysia is Yellowstone at Bangsar. They may have wider variety there.
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yeah...wat ya said bout lafuma is right...they're getting more to design...Millet is kinda the material of wat i want, just too bad i cant find their daypacks or waist pouches...
btw, wer to get the umm... lowe alphine? in klang valley
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QUOTE(jacktmj @ Jul 14 2010, 11:13 PM)
yeah...wat ya said bout lafuma is right...they're getting more to design...Millet is kinda the material of wat i want, just too bad i cant find their daypacks or waist pouches...
btw, wer to get the umm... lowe alphine? in klang valley
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I am not sure who are the resellers for Lowe Alpines around Klang Valley. Best to check with Outdoor Dynamics, Mr Nadir as he is the authorized dealer I believe.
Lowe Alpine I think are good stuff.
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QUOTE(jacktmj @ Jul 14 2010, 07:42 PM)
Hey Keong,

Just went to ss2 checked out the few Vaude and Lafuma and Millet bags.
According to the salesman, Lafuma and Millet are sister companies, and Millet is a much more rugged bag if compared to Lafuma, is that true?
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I think I met the same salesman as you too! I went there yesterday at around 2pm and he told me the same thing as you said here.
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Jul 15 2010, 09:29 AM)
I think I met the same salesman as you too! I went there yesterday at around 2pm and he told me the same thing as you said here.
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lol! was it a tall malay guy?

yeah...its the same salesman then...hahaha
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guys,
im going for a 1 week travel next month to europe..
im currently in glasgow..
so im looking for a bag..
how big should i buy for 1 week travel?
is 65L more than enough?
over here i can only find mountainlife, karrimor, north face (very expensive), vango and regatta..
so i dont really know which 1 should i buy..
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QUOTE(geniousboy @ Jul 21 2010, 11:14 PM)
guys,
im going for a 1 week travel next month to europe..
im currently in glasgow..
so im looking for a bag..
how big should i buy for 1 week travel?
is 65L more than enough?
over here i can only find mountainlife, karrimor, north face (very expensive), vango and regatta..
so i dont really know which 1 should i buy..
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Ahh...all those great brands. There is no right or wrong brand. More like what you need, your budget and what you will be using it for. In Europe, one popular brand at the moment is Quacha (I may have gotten the spelling wrong, but something like that).

Go through the previous thread for a rough 'guide' to help you answer what bag design you should be looking for.

Good luck!

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i went to mountainlife warehouse just now, and had a look at their rucksack.
i'm thinking of getting the 65L, which costs around 55pound after sale.
but i wonder, since the rucksack is so big, will i be allowed to bring it in flight cabin?
or i will need to checkin the bag which will costs me more?
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Where can I buy XL backpacks, like Jack Wolfskin's in Malaysia? And how much do they cost?
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Keong,

have u heard of Vanguard?
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Keong,

have u heard of Vanguard?
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Hi jacktmj...no I have not heard of that brand. The closest I have is Vango.
Tell us more about this pack.
Any weblinks?
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Hi, all sifu here!!
Where i can i look for deuter backpack and bike rack pack (going to travel by bike) in KL area or selangor arear ar?
i have go to those shopping mall such as tearproof shop, there does't have deuter bag.
Is deuter bag a good brand? or sifu here have any suggestion for me, cause this would be my 1st backpack.

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hie keong,


need ur help here.

can i know among the brand deuter , northface and Osprey.

WHich brand's quality of beg is the best??


i looking at deuter 55+10SL and Osprey WayPoint 65.

need ur advise.

hope to hear from u asap

thanks
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Added on August 10, 2010, 9:58 pm1 more thing..

since u say singapore is cheaper 20-50%...is osprey can be found there? cause i look into Osprey website..n can't seach Singapore as the dealer.

Please advise.

thanks.


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Hi jacktmj...no I have not heard of that brand. The closest I have is Vango.
Tell us more about this pack.
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Hi Keong,

hehe... paiseh...

it specializes more on Hunting accessories, sporting assecories(binoculars etc) and camera tripods/bags... more on optic assecories...

http://www.vanguardworld.com/


Added on August 10, 2010, 10:13 pm
QUOTE(seejun87 @ Aug 10 2010, 11:03 AM)
Hi, all sifu here!!
Where i can i look for deuter backpack and bike rack pack (going to travel by bike) in KL area or selangor arear ar?
i have go to those shopping mall such as tearproof shop, there does't have deuter bag.
Is deuter bag a good brand? or sifu here have any suggestion for me, cause this would be my 1st backpack.
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i suggest you to read frm the 1st post till this one.. then u will have some ideas

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anyone knows where to get the beg as per below link in malaysia or singapore.

http://uk.thenorthface.com/tnf-uk-en/backtrack-50.html

thanks.
andy

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you best bet would be Hong Kong as Singapore doesn't carry backtrack

http://www2.thenorthface.com/aunz/store-locations.html


QUOTE(andyang @ Aug 17 2010, 05:03 PM)
anyone knows where to get the beg as per below link in malaysia or singapore.

http://uk.thenorthface.com/tnf-uk-en/backtrack-50.html

thanks.
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So, anyone can recommend if is safe to buy from maam sia from pertama complex?

Is all the beg there original??

Can i find brands like lowe / north face / osprey there??

thanks

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QUOTE(genuine @ Aug 17 2010, 07:15 PM)
you best bet would be Hong Kong as Singapore doesn't carry backtrack

http://www2.thenorthface.com/aunz/store-locations.html
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Added on August 21, 2010, 6:22 pm
QUOTE(Keong @ Dec 8 2009, 06:42 AM)
Hi Tsukiyomi001,

For bombproof packs, I highly recomend New Zealand or Australian packs. Brands like the below:

Macpac
One Planet
Wilderness Equipment (now under Sea to Summit)

The above materials uses really strong materials and they would probably last longer than their human owners. If you like to 'feel' one, I can let you have a look. I have one. But when they are bombproof, they are heavy, that is the general tradeoff. Walk into any outdoor store these days and they will all tell you that the 'trend' these days is to go light.
They are expensive too.

I think to a certain extend packs are a personal choice thing. The redoxx pack is definitely not for me. It does not have the 'outdoor' design pack in it. Dupont materials are used in a lot of packs. Curdora is a common material used in a lot of packs. Other popular materials are 'diamond twill nylon', 'ripstop' and a host of other materials that specialized company makes.

Zippers are mostly from YKK. YKK heads that territory hands down. But at the end of the day, most of the packs I know are made either in Taiwan, Vietnam or Phillipines. China of course. Nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is even better. These places are 'hi-tech' concentrated. They have to be to compete with other OEM manufacturers.

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Dear Keong,

Base on above details u provide,

Macpac is suitable for outdoor use/travel?

Overall of the beg is good except is heavy ?

If compare Curdora metarial how heavy is it? cause i already try Lufama beg at bangsar there...just wan to know the comparison..

thanks.


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I want to get a backpack, budget around Rm100-250. Any recommend and how to noe is fake or real?
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I want to get a backpack, budget around Rm100-250. Any recommend and how to noe is fake or real?
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with that budget, u might want to forget deuter, karrimor, north face from your list smile.gif

brand is not important.. as long as u feel its tough enuf to carry ur stuff..

i would suggest you to go to pertama n have a look 1st.. but be careful.. not all backpacks there are ori..

how to know.. just grab and u know already.. hehe.. normally fake one wont give u enuf cuishion, needless to mention the stitch looks cheap etc..

i wouldnt mind using not-ori-deuter from vietnam.. because i know deuter selling in asia normally are made from vietnam.. so people there 'ciplak' the design and illegally produce exactly the same beg at a much cheaper price.. rolleyes.gif

and i got the same quality though rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Sep 9 2010, 03:11 AM)
how to know.. just grab and u know already.. hehe.. normally fake one wont give u enuf cuishion, needless to mention the stitch looks cheap etc..

i wouldnt mind using not-ori-deuter from vietnam.. because i know deuter selling in asia normally are made from vietnam.. so people there 'ciplak' the design and illegally produce exactly the same beg at a much cheaper price..  rolleyes.gif

and i got the same quality though  rolleyes.gif
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I have a friend who swears by Deuter. He told me ori ones have a proper production serial numbers behind it's label tag on them. While imitations/ replicas / fakes ones does not. Can anyone actually verify this?


Also does any retailer in KL carry Lowe Alpine lines of bags?
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Hi, anyone try b4 of maxpedition?

is it good investment for a adventures in NZ? as i m going there on working holiday for 6 mths.... may need to travel from one place to another.... so hope to find a bigger 1... mayb around 60 to 70L

how bout the brand eiger adventure?
i saw Eiger Dyno Haversack 70 plus 5 litre ...rm500 at mudah.com
is it ok?

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Maxpedition are mostly made to cater to the tactical industry or enthusiast. Very military like.
Eiger is an Indonesian brand. Never tried it before personally.
I recommend Osprey, Macpac, Lowe Alpine.

Read through the entire thread. You may find answers to your questions there.
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just wanna ask all the sifu here, if i wanna get a backpack for around 5days with budget around Rm150-250. any recommendation? Is going to be my first backpack, so wanna get something good.
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anyone here been to TearProof in The Curve? I really wonder if the salesperson in there is interested in doing sales. I spent like 10 minutes in there and he just sit there watching dvd on his laptop. Didn't even bother to talk to me. Wonder if this is how they sell ?
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ya, tearproof @ mv oso like that, i walked in, take out their backpack, open up every zip to check compartment, take out rain coat, try put on the bag and walk, i "play" there like 10mins but no one border me.....

anyway, wanna ask sifu Keong, i saw a shop @ pertama selling osprey too, they did not tell me much regarding the price just the first digit, compare to 35% discount @ tearproof, i guess just around 30-50 difference

got fake osprey selling @ pertama?
and oso, i wanna buy osprey kestrel 58L, can i use this as cabin/hand carry luggage @ AA? if it is under 7kg weight
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Hi guys...sad yeah. I went to both the shops and the one at Curve today. It's true...the guy there really tak layan. Maybe he is not happy with his work.
Anyway, I think we should look at it from a good side, at least we don have a salesman bugging us as we browse around! We can look, feel and touch as we like smile.gif

So far I have not encountered any fake Osprey. Not yet. But I think they are getting very popular. I think the shops at Pertama are selling the real one.

Oh...another note on Tearproof shops. If you decide to buy a particular model, it would be worthwhile going around a few of the shops. I realized during my visit to 3 different shops in this one week time that different shop give different discounts to the SAME pack/ model. No kidding!!

One particular model of Osprey at MV is at 40% off and at Curve only 25%. Same price (before discount) displayed. Nothing wrong with the packs at both store, just different harness size.

Weird.
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hahaha .. very true, Keong ,at least they are not pushy. Can take the bag, try it on, walk here, walk there, i wonder if he will stop us if we walk out of the shop.
But how is the Vertikal brand ? Seems to be less expensive than the Osprey.
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MV got 40%? i only see 35% for kestrel.... >.<"
for me, Osprey worth the price given, it is 2lbs lighter than deuter/Vertikal
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Vertical is actually an in house brand for Tearproof. Again, Tearproof is a company from Singapore (there it is called sports connection).
I believe Vertical is made in Vietnam, same factory doing OEM for Deuter, Lafuma etc. Quality okay la...for the price. I used to have one of the products. No complaints.

Yes, MV got 40% but today last day I think.
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hello,

wanna ask.... Do Air Asia allow 45L backpack on board as Hand Carry?

weight under 7kg..
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Only one (1) item of baggage is allowed to be carried on board provided that it does not exceed the dimensions of 56cm X 36cm X 23cm and provided that it does not weigh more than 7kg.

taken from AA website
http://www.airasia.com/my/en/aaxtnc.html
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Hi friends,

In Klang Valley area, where can I buy outing gears such as waterproof bags etc....
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hello,

wanna ask.... Do Air Asia allow 45L backpack on board as Hand Carry?

weight under 7kg..
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my 32l backpack only ngam-ngam fit da overhead compartment if vertically.
it would waste alot of space if put it horizontally sweat.gif
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Hi there,
Been through whole 15 pages... that was so so long..
look like i miss out the sales for Tearproof.
Any sales going now? coz i going nz on march so planing to get a 50-60 liter bag. Should i wait for sales? Year end ada sales ka?
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QUOTE(KageBunshi @ Sep 27 2010, 11:25 AM)
Hi there,
Been through whole 15 pages... that was so so long..
look like i miss out the sales for Tearproof.
Any sales going now? coz i going nz on march so planing to get a 50-60 liter bag. Should i wait for sales? Year end ada sales ka?
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u can try Corezone in SS2. Before raya they hv some sales there.
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Does anyone have any idea about Alpinepac? Saw one forumer selling an Alpinepac 40L for RM 200. I wonder how's the durability. And I saw another forumer selling a used Deuter Futura Pro 38 for RM 300. It's still is a good condition. New Deuter is too expensive for my budget.
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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ Sep 23 2010, 11:51 PM)
my 32l backpack only ngam-ngam fit da overhead compartment if vertically.
it would waste alot of space if put it horizontally  sweat.gif
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Should be a yes since I dragged my 40L on board and they let me pass. ^^;; 5L shouldn't be that much of a difference. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(71ers @ Sep 27 2010, 03:59 PM)
u can try Corezone in SS2.  Before raya they hv some sales there.
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Thanks man.. will visit them soon
Any other recommended shop to buy backpack?
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Can try Bangsar area where the same row as McD got sell some Dueter and at the back more facing the housing estate got one Lafuma store.

Else in Cheras, can try this store: http://www.evergreenadventure.cc/contactinfo.htm
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im using One Polar and this bag already serve me for tahan3x, kinabalu 1x and mt kerinci.

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anyway, anyone interested to join me for gng tahan trip 8-11oct ? rm290 all in. short of participants now.
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QUOTE(determinism @ Sep 29 2010, 06:39 PM)
im using One Polar and this bag already serve me for tahan3x, kinabalu 1x and mt kerinci.

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Ah...this is the sort of people we are short of. No need fancy expensive packs yet manage to do so many mountains. Good on you!

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Bought a Vertikal Alaska backpack (50+10L) today at Pertama Complex...

Marking price is MYR 379... after negotiate with the shopkeeper, final purchase price RM220.

Is this good bargain?

*The shopkeeper look angry when selling the bag to me. sweat.gif
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just got myself Osprey Talon 22 from sia..

excellent bag for use day to day..
i love backpack because of their quality..

i used to have a Karrimoor backpack that last me about 10+ years..
survive every single day in college,some backpack trip,numerous vacation trip until it vanish suddenly(curse to whoever stole it) sad.gif

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just got myself Osprey Talon 22 from sia..

excellent bag for use day to day..
i love backpack because of their quality..
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may i know how much it cost u?
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about 340. expensive but worth every cent smile.gif

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Hey guys,

Im going for my first backpack trip for 14 days in India this end of the year. May I know if a 60L backpack is enough, and what brands do you recommend (other than Deuter), my budget is about RM200-300. Thanks smile.gif
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im using Deuter Futura 60 and also Deuter S-Lite (use to carry my laptop )..
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Hey guys,

Im going for my first backpack trip for 14 days in India this end of the year. May I know if a 60L backpack is enough, and what brands do you recommend (other than Deuter), my budget is about RM200-300. Thanks smile.gif
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based on my exp,

there is no way you can get a good brand for 60l..
unless its tearproof sales......even that also I think quite impossible..

unless go with vertikal or other lower brand...
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tearproof got sales till end of nov (or oct i not sure)
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oh really? Which tearproof outlet? The one at the MidValley one? Thanks smile.gif
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the tearproof sales end on oct or nov?
anyone can confirm? btw where can find berghaus bag?
i wanted to find 60L travel bag not hiking bag, any recommendation?
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QUOTE(Keong @ Oct 8 2010, 08:06 PM)
Ah...this is the sort of people we are short of. No need fancy expensive packs yet manage to do so many mountains. Good on you!
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Thank so much bro for the compliment blush.gif

by the way this bag also served me during my recent hiking trip to Mt Tahan on 101010. smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

for those looking for backpack, pls make sure what is your backpack for? either for travel or hiking,

dont use travel backpack for hiking!!!!

but can use hiking backpack for Travel

so make a wise choice biggrin.gif
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Would like to get some advise from sifu here.

How you guys secure your backpack when checkin luggage? As most of the backpack now where top side don't have a zip for you to put a padlock on it. Won't you worry your thing get stolen or missing?

I have 2 backpack where the design don't have a zip or anything to lock the top compartment. I miscalculation when brought this bag. sad.gif

Hope you guys know what I m talking. smile.gif
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If u ask me, I don't usually leave valuable stuffs in my checking baggage. So lock no lock doesn't really matter to me.

However, if you want; there's actually luggage stores that sell those lockable netting where you can lock your entire bag even to a post or something. I believe Tearproof have it.
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If u ask me, I don't usually leave valuable stuffs in my checking baggage. So lock no lock doesn't really matter to me.

However, if you want; there's actually luggage stores that sell those lockable netting where you can lock your entire bag even to a post or something. I believe Tearproof have it.
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I don't know what is valuable and what is not. Of course those like camera and laptop shoudln't checkin luggage. But beside that maybe they want to steal your few nice underwear or some branded shirt. tongue.gif

How about if you coming back with souvenier or things that you brought and need to be place in your backpack and checkin luggage? hmm.gif

Would try check with Tearproof to see have such thing. Thanks.
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I don't know what is valuable and what is not. Of course those like camera and laptop shoudln't checkin luggage. But beside that maybe they want to steal your few nice underwear or some branded shirt. tongue.gif

How about if you coming back with souvenier or things that you brought and need to be place in your backpack and checkin luggage? hmm.gif

Would try check with Tearproof to see have such thing. Thanks.
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In some cases...what I have seen people do is to actually place your pack in a big bag. Two ways of doing this.
One is to buy pre-sewn rain cover that comes in a zipper version. These sort of rain cover covers the entire pack. It is like a box with zippers to go around it. But not common here this thing.

Another extreme way is to 'shrink' wrap your packs. This is a service available at some airports but not all. Basiclly, they will 'shrink' wrap your entire pack, together with the straps, buckles and all.

There is not really a full proof way of securing your pack I think. With a RM0.20 knife, one can cut through your bag easy. Even if your pack is encased in the 'Pacsafe' steel wire meshing.

The most one can do is to make it more of a deterrent. And as your pack comes out of the conveyor belt and you notice the wrapping is broken, then you know it has been tempered...so you can check and lodge a report if necessary.

That is my 2 cents worth smile.gif
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In some cases...what I have seen people do is to actually place your pack in a big bag. Two ways of doing this.
One is to buy pre-sewn rain cover that comes in a zipper version. These sort of rain cover covers the entire pack. It is like a box with zippers to go around it. But not common here this thing.

Another extreme way is to 'shrink' wrap your packs. This is a service available at some airports but not all. Basiclly, they will 'shrink' wrap your entire pack, together with the straps, buckles and all.

There is not really a full proof way of securing your pack I think. With a RM0.20 knife, one can cut through your bag easy. Even if your pack is encased in the 'Pacsafe' steel wire meshing.

The most one can do is to make it more of a deterrent. And as your pack comes out of the conveyor belt and you notice the wrapping is broken, then you know it has been tempered...so you can check and lodge a report if necessary.

That is my 2 cents worth smile.gif
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Thanks for your suggestion. I have brought a backpack cover which is purposely to cover the backpack and zip up. There is a strap for you to carry and the zip can be lock. It enough for 80L backpack. They have even bigger size. It using thin material, very light and can be foldup place inside the backpack. Cost RM67 from tearproof.

Last time I have using backpack to holiday most of the time. But the backpack have the zip which can be lock. And all the pocket can be lock too. But nowaday, new backpack not all have the zip. Even the main pocket. Unless you buy the travelpack. Whch is suitable only for travel.

Those shrink wrap cost quite expensive. I have seen in many airport but not all. But you don't have proof if your thing get stolen. They (thieft) remove completely the wrap and took what you have in your bag. But you don't have proof that your bag is wrap before when you argue at the check and lodge a report.
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hi there,

I have a Timberland day pack and Lowe Alpine hiking backpack for sale. Do check the link below.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry36387762

cheers,
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ya, tearproof @ mv oso like that, i walked in, take out their backpack, open up every zip to check compartment, take out rain coat, try put on the bag and walk, i "play" there like 10mins but no one border me.....

anyway, wanna ask sifu Keong, i saw a shop @ pertama selling osprey too, they did not tell me much regarding the price just the first digit, compare to 35% discount @ tearproof, i guess just around 30-50 difference

got fake osprey selling @ pertama?
and oso, i wanna buy osprey kestrel 58L, can i use this as cabin/hand carry luggage @ AA? if it is under 7kg weight
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i bought mine at pertama, osprey aether and yes they are genuine. recently i've lost the buckle for the chest strap and requested the repllacement from tearproof. I got the part no problem,except for the long waiting time. took me almost 3 month as they've sent the wrong parts.

but overall this bag is nice, i've used in when i went hiking at mt nuang and rajah. can carry around 25kg and i dont feel much of the weight. their all mighty guarantee are also nice as the cover all the parts except for tear n wear of course.
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Anybody has experience with Macpac Cascade series?
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Anybody has experience with Macpac Cascade series?
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LKM...now we are talking!
Macpac...you mean the new editions or the older models?
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Hey Keong, haven't seen you for a long time. smile.gif

It's the one used by Ed Stafford who walked the Amazon river. He used Cascade 75 FL if I am not mistaken. Macpac New Zealand is having clearance sales on Cascade 65 which is about RM700-800.
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Nov 23 2010, 11:38 AM)
Hey Keong, haven't seen you for a long time. smile.gif

It's the one used by Ed Stafford who walked the Amazon river. He used Cascade 75 FL if I am not mistaken. Macpac New Zealand is having clearance sales on Cascade 65 which is about RM700-800.
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Glad u guys brought this up ... Can we get MacPAc NZ in Malaysia ?
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Glad u guys brought this up ... Can we get MacPAc NZ in Malaysia ?
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I am not sure. Even though Sports Connection in Sg is listed as Macpac Sg dealer, there isn't any Macpac product on their website. Most probably I will ask my friend to help me courier it to Malaysia. Is there any heavy tax imposed on such travel equipment?
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I am not sure. Even though Sports Connection in Sg is listed as Macpac Sg dealer, there isn't any Macpac product on their website. Most probably I will ask my friend to help me courier it to Malaysia. Is there any heavy tax imposed on such travel equipment?
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Hi guys....wow...this is getting interesting by the minute.

LKM...for that price, I think it is a good buy.

As for getting them, Sports Connection (Sg) or Tearproof in Malaysia is your best bet. They do not have them listed on their website but they definitely have them in their retail outlets.

I would advise against shipping the pack in. For one, it is gonna cost a LOT and secondly, it may be taxed (could be a lot). Best bet if you are buying it from overseas, is to get a friend to bring it in OR ship it into Sg and go down there to collect. Sg don't have tax on this type of gear I belief.

Macpac is damn good I reckon. Just that it is a bit on the heavy side.
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QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 23 2010, 07:34 PM)
Hi guys....wow...this is getting interesting by the minute.

LKM...for that price, I think it is a good buy.

As for getting them, Sports Connection (Sg) or Tearproof in Malaysia is your best bet. They do not have them listed on their website but they definitely have them in their retail outlets.

I would advise against shipping the pack in. For one, it is gonna cost a LOT and secondly, it may be taxed (could be a lot). Best bet if you are buying it from overseas, is to get a friend to bring it in OR ship it into Sg and go down there to collect. Sg don't have tax on this type of gear I belief.

Macpac is damn good I reckon. Just that it is a bit on the heavy side.
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Do they have any sort of price list online? I feel quite lazy to drag myself to Sg or KL just to buy the pack. Well, it could be worthwhile to try them before I buy since ergonomics is the most important. Macpac Cascade 65 is about 3kg. The number reads heavy but I reckon when you put it on your back, you can barely feel it since most of the weight is distributed to the hip which they claim is the strongest muscle (should be tongue if my memory serves right).

ps: I need a backpack to climb Mt. Kinabalu. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Nov 23 2010, 08:32 PM)

ps: I need a backpack to climb Mt. Kinabalu. smile.gif
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I would suggest you get their phone number and call them (sports connection singapore.

Hmmm...to climb KK I think a Cascade would be an overkill. I have not climbed it myself but from what I have read, a 25-30 liter daypack is sufficient.

Oh...let me know what you end up with please.

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Really? A cheaper alternative is Deuter Futura Pro 42. Any opinion on this?
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hi there

what's the recommendation for a travel backpack for a beginner?
3 weeks in korea
and is it better to get a travel or hiking backpack?

appreciate the reply smile.gif
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QUOTE(meme00 @ Nov 26 2010, 03:46 AM)
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what's the recommendation for a travel backpack for a beginner?
3 weeks in korea
and is it better to get a travel or hiking backpack?

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Hi meme00...I think you would have to go through some of the earlier pages on this thread. We have discussed this earlier on.

In any case, again like many other things we buy in life, it all depends on what we want to do with it. You have already spelled out the 'travel' and 'hiking' part. So, assuming you know the differences between this two category of packs, then you can decide which one to go with based on what you will be doing in Korea.

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QUOTE(Keong @ Nov 26 2010, 08:23 AM)
Hi meme00...I think you would have to go through some of the earlier pages on this thread. We have discussed this earlier on.

In any case, again like many other things we buy in life, it all depends on what we want to do with it. You have already spelled out the 'travel' and 'hiking' part. So, assuming you know the differences between this two category of packs, then you can decide which one to go with based on what you will be doing in Korea.
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hi keong,

i did read thru all the pages but can't seem to settle on the size of the backpack? js for travelling alone for now i guess
any recommendations on that? thanks biggrin.gif

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It depends. Most hiking backpacks would have some type of support at the back eg, steel support, back mesh etc... which would be bulky if you intend to use it for normal sight seeing backpaking. Those are meant for you to have more back/hip support as you're carrying the backpack for a long period of time. If you're going travelling; you don't really need those.

Also I think someone mentioned before. You can always try to bring a pack of clothings etc to the store and try stuffing everything inside to see whether or not it fits. That is if you are not afraid of how ppl look at you. Because size is different for everyone. Someone which is a light packer do not really need a big pack. Thus different. You can just go look around and you'll roughly know which size suits you the best.

Anyway, now there's many different type of "compression sacks" available. So if you got one of those, it can really safe space.
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QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 7 2010, 02:54 PM)
It depends. Most hiking backpacks would have some type of support at the back eg, steel support, back mesh etc... which would be bulky if you intend to use it for normal sight seeing backpaking. Those are meant for you to have more back/hip support as you're carrying the backpack for a long period of time. If you're going travelling; you don't really need those.

Also I think someone mentioned before. You can always try to bring a pack of clothings etc to the store and try stuffing everything inside to see whether or not it fits. That is if you are not afraid of how ppl look at you. Because size is different for everyone. Someone which is a light packer do not really need a big pack. Thus different. You can just go look around and you'll roughly know which size suits you the best.

Anyway, now there's many different type of "compression sacks" available. So if you got one of those, it can really safe space.
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QUOTE(meme00 @ Nov 26 2010, 03:46 AM)
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what's the recommendation for a travel backpack for a beginner?
3 weeks in korea
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imho 3 weeks or 10 weeks also pack the same stuff nod.gif
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imho 3 weeks or 10 weeks also pack the same stuff nod.gif
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Yes, I know people who pack to the minimalist and the same stuff for 3 weeks can also be the same stuff for 10 weeks.
These are are the sort of people IMHO have very wide comfort zones. They can live in the same set of clothes for a few days!
It takes a person with great experience to be able to do that (not necessarily a dirty person)

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i just want to know where to buy cheapest deuter quantum 55 + 15L?

i saw a forum guy from http://www.fashion-origin.com selling rm685...

is it the best price we can find ?

i wonder the daypack is enough for a 15" laptop ?

thks for ur answer 1st....
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Hi Davinyan...a 55liter backpack can probably fit 10pcs of 15" laptop! 55liter is huge!

AS for the price, I am not sure. I would strongly suggest that you contact them and have a try of teh pack. Do some fitting test.

For a variety of backpacks, you can always try Tearproof (Midvalley, KLCC) and also Madam Sia at Pertama Complex.

Here is a list of other retailers (some online as well) that you can check out.

http://www.outdoor-gear-malaysia.com/retailers-list/


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hi guys..i don't know about this.why don't u guys check this brand out.they called 'osprey'.been using it since i learn that deuter doesn't produce the real deuter when they start to make it in vietnam(sorry deuter's fan...no offense).been using osprey ever since for as far as i heard that this brand really came up with the one that sponsor most of the activity in grand canyon.and yes....i'm not gonna change to any product til' i find a better 1
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Some of the guys are using Osprey in here.
However not many choices in M'sia. More in Singapore.
Whereas my wife got one Dueter and I used Karrimor and Lafuma.

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Is Lafuma and Vaude brand backpack a good choice?
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Is Lafuma and Vaude brand backpack a good choice?
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Any backpacks (branded or non-branded) can be a good choice if it fits you well and you are used to it's made and accessible "pockets".
The important part is to test it out before buying. Like someone recommended before, if you are not afraid of "malu"; then bring your gears and try to fit the backpacks to see how it performs.
You can test it out and I can assure you every bags doesn't fit the same way. Some you would feel directly it's not the right fit and that's the one you need to avoid.
I have a friend who custom-ed 2 backpacks which he used for trekking/camping trips.
Something like this:
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Where he improvised the straps not to be rattan and the common straps with supports. And besides the normal rottan closure, he improvised with harness and hooks and clips for easier access.
Why he used that is because he would stuffs his things into a dry-bag or dry-sack and just dump it in the sack and it's easily accessible. He would alternate between shoulder and head support.

He got another big pouch which he also custom-ed to have head support besides the usual waist support for pouch.

Thus like I say, if it fits you; no matter the brand, it's a good backpack.

Again, what suits others might not suit you.

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Thus like I say, if it fits you; no matter the brand, it's a good backpack.

Again, what suits others might not suit you.
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Well said!
I like the pack on the picture above! It reminds me of some Penans I met in the interior of Miri some years back. He was a porter and one of the tourist that was on the trip brought an expensive 'Gregory' pack for the Penan to carry. The Penan don understand the pack, so he took the entire pack and drop it into the rattan basket and carried it. I thought that was hilarious!


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do you guys face problem when taking your hiking backpack as hand carry into the plane?
is deuter act lite 40+10 to big for hand carry?
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QUOTE(Keong @ Dec 27 2010, 07:20 PM)
Well said!
I like the pack on the picture above! It reminds me of some Penans I met in the interior of Miri some years back. He was a porter and one of the tourist that was on the trip brought an expensive 'Gregory' pack for the Penan to carry. The Penan don understand the pack, so he took the entire pack and drop it into the rattan basket and carried it. I thought that was hilarious!
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haha.... that's funny but expected. The basket basically is free to dump anything inside as it will stretch a little bit because made of rattan.
Anyway, the pic is for illustration. When I'm back home for CNY see whether or not I managed to go take a pic of his modified pack.
He is into DIY, so far the "gas stove/burner" he modified serves us the best in most hiking/camping trip.


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do you guys face problem when taking your hiking backpack as hand carry into the plane?
is deuter act lite 40+10 to big for hand carry?
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Most hiking packs comes with sort of steel frame inside or outside to gives support and maintain the pack's structure. Thus even it's not fully pack, it will look bulky. So if you ask me, 40+10 pack wouldn't do as hand carry. But still depends on whether or not they let you check in as hand carry.
I never dare to try unless I know the flight is not that full but definitely don't try in Korea as I was there a few weeks back and they are quite strict about hand carry baggage where they would have the bag frame there and would ask you to fit it in, if in then ok; if out then need to check in. Besides that, they also have a weighting machine.

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do you guy thinks that cheapo deuter that can be found around mudah.my worth the penny?


with below RM200 u can get 75L.

and who have experienced used this product. beginner n short of budget.
so only have 2 option

1. 2nd hand bag
2. those deuter at mudah.my


please advise oso
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Those are not real deuter. Even pirated also damn expensive. I can get it below RM100.

Beware mudah.my. Full of scam people in there.
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i always prefer COD.
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I guess with imitation products, the quality is always questionable as quality control is not there. Material of the fabric used could also be of lesser quality.

Although I'm not advocating "piracy", I would still say what ever rocks your boat.

Watch out for stitching and the clip fasteners because that's the main thing that is going to hold your backpack together.
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QUOTE(hainur83 @ Jan 7 2011, 03:57 PM)
hi guys. give me ur opinion about this bag ples
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...03257&hl=trendz
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how about this one.
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@hainur83
Those are dry bags. Most dry bags are not comfortable to carry for long period of time. Where back/shoulder/hip support is crucial as it helps levitate the weight. (I love our local army backpack the most, used it once when I was a teenager which I borrowed from a senior during a long hiking trip, can't seem to find it anymore. So far, I think it's the best in even out the weight as compared to branded commercial backpacks)
I got one 10l dry bag which for short distance or water activity only I use.
I'm going to source for dry sacks which is more useful in my opinion. Because it's not that bulky and you can store important things inside while still carry inside normal backpacks.
Even a garbage bag would work well in replacements for dry sacks, but of course not as durable as dry sacks. Then again, dry sacks are not as durable as dry bags.
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thanks boon


but that is dry bag for camping which i think same function like normal bagpack.

try take a look at the link biggrin.gif
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Hi guys,

Would like to seek your advice.
I'd like to get a hiking back for approx 1 week trip.
I've narrowed down my option to Deuter Futura Pro 42/Vario 50+10.

The reason I chose Deuter over other brands is because of:
- Price, cheaper than Osprey, NF, Lafuma...
- Mesh, better ventilation, I can't stand the heat generated at the back after some time of usage tongue.gif

I wonder if it can fit a 15" laptop & a DSLR (if possible) so that I can avoid carrying an extra baggage?

Which one should I go for between these two?

I heard that Mdm Siah offered RM350 for Futura Pro 42, how bout the price for Vario 50+10? And for the price she offered, is it authentic? As I've checked the price from some sellers in LYN, the cheapest I can find for Futura Pro 42 is RM410 and Vario 50+10 is RM480.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(hainur83 @ Jan 7 2011, 11:49 PM)
thanks boon
but that is dry bag for camping which i think same function like normal bagpack.

try take a look at the link biggrin.gif
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I know. It's not the sling type but double shoulder strap like normal backpack. However, because of the material; it's more rigid and if no proper meshing at the back for ventilation, the heat generated would be more. Thus the uncomfortable use.
But again like explain before, you'll have to test it out to see whether or not it suits you.
One point to note though, if you don't take care of your dry bags properly you might risk the "skin" peeling off especially at the top where you need to fold 3 times to clip it for it to be waterproof.


@hao
You can try this. Start "packing" without the bag yet, i.e. take out all the things you wanted to bring. So roughly you would know how big the "pile" is as everyone's definition of packing for 1 week is different.
So once you have a gauge on what you wanted to bring and how big is the pile, then after seeing the real backpacks; you would have an idea whether or not it would fit.

The price however I'm not very sure. wink.gif
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Hello,may i know whats the market price now for a deuter futura 32? i saw some guys selling it between rm360-rm410.is this the real price?? thanks smile.gif
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I guess with imitation products, the quality is always questionable as quality control is not there. Material of the fabric used could also be of lesser quality.

Although I'm not advocating "piracy", I would still say what ever rocks your boat.

Watch out for stitching and the clip fasteners because that's the main thing that is going to hold your backpack together.
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Not really. Depend how experience you choose the bag. I have the opposite problem. While the imitation can last longer but not the real one. hmm.gif
I have those real deuter and targus bag, but can't last long. While the cap ayam brand cause RM100 can last for 10yrs.

I don't buy branded bag but more on functioning bag. But the market produce more imitation than the cap ayam brand.(for cheaper bag) sad.gif
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QUOTE(b00n @ Jan 8 2011, 12:48 AM)
I know. It's not the sling type but double shoulder strap like normal backpack. However, because of the material; it's more rigid and if no proper meshing at the back for ventilation, the heat generated would be more. Thus the uncomfortable use.
But again like explain before, you'll have to test it out to see whether or not it suits you.
One point to note though, if you don't take care of your dry bags properly you might risk the "skin" peeling off especially at the top where you need to fold 3 times to clip it for it to be waterproof.
@hao
You can try this. Start "packing" without the bag yet, i.e. take out all the things you wanted to bring. So roughly you would know how big the "pile" is as everyone's definition of packing for 1 week is different.
So once you have a gauge on what you wanted to bring and how big is the pile, then after seeing the real backpacks; you would have an idea whether or not it would fit.

The price however I'm not very sure. wink.gif
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Thanks, b00n for the advice.

I'm trying to avoid backpacks that are >60l. Don't like the idea of carrying such a huge bag walking around, especially during 3 days of local trips. I'm looking for one that can serve for multipurpose usage. You know, the backpacks aren't cheap so it's not a good idea for me to get backpacks with various sizes.
The another thing is that if I get big backpacks, I have to check it in in airports. I prefer to carry it in planes though.

I've read that backpacks in Aus are cheaper but after a brief search, the price is almost the same :/

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Hi...my two cents worth...

Backpacks in Australia & New Zealand are alway smore expensive. Unless you happen to stumble upon some great sale. Even the packs on ebay australia and NZ is more expensive than packs here (most of the time)..


QUOTE(hainur83 @ Jan 7 2011, 10:54 PM)
how about this one.
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I have to agree that a dry bag of this size (like the picture above) with carrying shoulder straps are not the way to go. Dry bags are made using lamination/ seam technology. They fuse the materials together. They don use sticthing because it punctures the material, hence water can get in. With lamination/ seam products, if you put heavier load, they tend to stress too much and this will lead to tear.
How I know this? Because I have used them before. Some more the one I use is not cheapo brand, it is from Wytex!

So...my suggestion is...if you wanna use big capacity dry bags (40 liters above) and you wanna carry it like a backpack, use it with a skeletol carrier, like the ones below:

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfi...33&pdeptid=1989
http://www.equinoxltd.com/the-gear/backpac...pamola-pack.cfm

As for the brand of packs, it is to each persons choice. Its almost like a car. Some with more cash would prefer a BMW, while other are happy with a Toyota. At the end of the day, it serves the same purpose, brings you there. But it would be a shame to own a BMW X6 and not be able to use it offroad cool2.gif

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Hi all traveler sifu's ,

I got a dilemma about which back pack that i should get. The story begins like this....

I've planned a holiday a.k.a shopping to Bandung this year, and I'm gonna board Air Asia, already purchased a 25kg excess luggage for return and none for depart.

As I checked the allowed dimensions and weight for cabin luggage / hand carry for Air Asia is H + W + L < 115cm and max weight is 7kg.

My original plan is to travel light from here (just carry the Red Dell-Targus back pack), and buy a big bag at Bandung and store all my shopping item. Then I found one little problem (as I've been told..) The price for a large bag or a back pack there at Bandung is almost double from KL!! rclxub.gif ( I should use the difference to buy other things, not spend on bag!!)

I've travel before but the most bag that I've carried as a cabin luggage is my one and only the Red Dell - Targus back pack. I fit everything in it and never had problem at the boarding gate.

I prefer a back pack rather than the "balik kampung" wheel bag.

So, now Deuter is playing in my mind, but there are a lot of models out there, and I can't be sure which one is fit for cabin luggage.

Here's my dilemma;

1. which Deuter back pack can fit as cabin luggage (of course I will shrink it as much as possible so it will look small, and will travel light, except the steel that support the bag that can't be folded..) on my departure. <-- This is crucial, don't want any problem at the gate.. doh.gif

2. That back pack can be extended enormously so that I can "sumbat" everything that I bought . ( I already purchased excess luggage up to 25kg for return biggrin.gif )

I've surveyed a few Deuter back pack, some say up until the Air Contact 40L + 10 model is still allowed. I need to ensure the types that's allowed before buying so that I won't have problem.

So please all the travel sifu's out there, help me decide. Thank you. icon_question.gif
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Hi Metalking...

Hmmm...quite a common dilemma but finding a one solution to all is like finding the perfect life partner. In other words...very hard. My opinion, you are looking for a pack that does not have some hi-tech backpanel frame. Forget about those fancy mesh on a curved aluminum frame kind of stuff. Reason? Because they don't lie flat and that wastes space.

You are also probably looking for a pack with compression straps at the sides. When the pack is empty, you can literally compress it small and when it is packed to the brim, the straps will help to 'squash' everything into a smaller size. A bit like a compression sack.

I would recommend the following, but mind you, they are NOT common and not cheap. Forget Deuter. You'd have a hard time just trying to figure out if the money you are paying is for a real unit or a replica. Go for something not common, that way, you have a higher probability that it is the real stuff.

http://fairtrade-advocacy.org/manager/cat....therlode&images

http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/Vultur...pack-12p114.htm

http://www.rei.com/product/780623


Hope the above helps.


Good luck!


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QUOTE(Keong @ Jan 8 2011, 05:19 PM)
Hi...my two cents worth...

Backpacks in Australia & New Zealand are alway smore expensive. Unless you happen to stumble upon some great sale. Even the packs on ebay australia and NZ is more expensive than packs here (most of the time)..
I have to agree that a dry bag of this size (like the picture above) with carrying shoulder straps are not the way to go. Dry bags are made using lamination/ seam technology. They fuse the materials together. They don use sticthing because it punctures the material, hence water can get in. With lamination/ seam products, if you put heavier load, they tend to stress too much and this will lead to tear.
How I know this? Because I have used them before. Some more the one I use is not cheapo brand, it is from Wytex!

So...my suggestion is...if you wanna use big capacity dry bags (40 liters above) and you wanna carry it like a backpack, use it with a skeletol carrier, like the ones below:

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfi...33&pdeptid=1989
http://www.equinoxltd.com/the-gear/backpac...pamola-pack.cfm

As for the brand of packs, it is to each persons choice. Its almost like a car. Some with more cash would prefer a BMW, while other are happy with a Toyota. At the end of the day, it serves the same purpose, brings you there. But it would be a shame to own a BMW X6 and not be able to use it offroad  cool2.gif
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thanks again.

i'm not picky about brand as long as it can serve me well and the 'toughness' of the bag biggrin.gif
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Hi guys, nid ur help here...has anyone seen local KL luggage shop here selling wheeled backpack like what is show in the pic? reason being i nid a luggage that can be carried as well pulled on wheels when it gets too heavy...ur kind reply is highly appreciated... notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(alamdamai1 @ Jan 10 2011, 08:45 AM)
Hi guys, nid ur help here...has anyone seen local KL luggage shop here selling wheeled backpack like what is show in the pic? reason being i nid a luggage that can be carried as well pulled on wheels when it gets too heavy...ur kind reply is highly appreciated... notworthy.gif
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Those tearproof shop have.
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thanks ozak for ur quick reply...but i nid minimum capacity of 85L or about 28 inch long..do u think Tearproof Midvalley has it?
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They have many size. Go n check it out.
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thanks ozak for ur quick reply...but i nid minimum capacity of 85L or about 28 inch long..do u think Tearproof Midvalley has it?
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Yes, I think I remember seeing it.

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Once the backpack comes wth wheels, it will no longer lightweight dy. Better get the one witjout wheek but good back, shoulder and the most important belly support so that the load distribute equally esp to the belly side rather than your shoulder..Helps a lot..You can walk for hours without feeling the load if you have a backpack wth good belly support
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thanks stimix 4 d good advise... icon_rolleyes.gif

but i nid the wheels as i'm sum time quite lazy to piggyback the luggage..u knoelah...age is catching up.... blush.gif
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Wth the wheels, you will be ended up pulling most of the time rather than backpacking.

I used to have one but I find it not stable and heavy if wanna backpack bcos lack of tummy support. At the end, ended up in my storeroom.

If really good backpack wth superb tummy support, for sure you dun really feel the pain till 1-2 hrs later..Thereafter just stop for a while for a drinks & etc..can dy..
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Hi folks. I got myself an Osprey Aura 50L (M size). Now I'm looking for a raincoat for my backpack. Osprey raincoat is sold at RM 118 which I think is quite expensive. Is there anywhere I can source for cheaper raincoat? Which size should I get? Can a Deuter 50-90L raincoat (around RM 60) fit my backpack?

Please advice. Thanks in advance.

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Yes, it should fit as it's stretchable.
Btw, look for Vaude rain cover. If I remember correctly, it's even cheaper.

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hi. i need suggestion from otai2 here. im planning to buy a 65l above backpack for hiking. with my budget rm6++. any recommendation.
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hi. i need suggestion from otai2 here. im planning to buy a 65l above backpack for hiking. with my budget rm6++. any recommendation.
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Hi guys. I'm looking to get myself a backpack which I can use for both general travelling and trekking, need some advice from you guys. Basically, I'm tempted now to get the Deuter Aircontact Pro 50+15, which will set me back around 800 bucks. However, my height is only 160 cm (yeah I'm really short!) and I'm wondering if that's gonna be a problem. I did try out the bag, and it didn't feel weird or anything, but I would love to hear some input from you guys before I splurge that kind of moolah.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(swimfan @ Jan 14 2011, 09:49 PM)
Hi guys. I'm looking to get myself a backpack which I can use for both general travelling and trekking, need some advice from you guys. Basically, I'm tempted now to get the Deuter Aircontact Pro 50+15, which will set me back around 800 bucks. However, my height is only 160 cm (yeah I'm really short!) and I'm wondering if that's gonna be a problem. I did try out the bag, and it didn't feel weird or anything, but I would love to hear some input from you guys before I splurge that kind of moolah.

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With that kind of money, you can opt for brands like Osprey. Far better in terms of comfort compared to Deuter (IMHO).
Somehow, Deuter is overrated in Malaysia.
Try brands like Osprey, Mountainsmith, even Lowe Alpine.

Most importantly, do there and try it on. You MUST fit the pack and see if it is ok for you. Only you can tell.
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QUOTE(Keong @ Jan 15 2011, 06:24 AM)
With that kind of money, you can opt for brands like Osprey. Far better in terms of comfort compared to Deuter (IMHO).
Somehow, Deuter is overrated in Malaysia.
Try brands like Osprey, Mountainsmith, even Lowe Alpine.

Most importantly, do there and try it on. You MUST fit the pack and see if it is ok for you. Only you can tell.
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My first pack way back when I was a kid was a Lowe Alpine. It was durable as hell and it lasted me a looong time. So I was an absolute "anti-Deuter" person, especially when it got really popular here in Malaysia. But now that I'm all grown up and looking for a replacement, I do see that Deuter puts a lot of technology in its backpacks at par with the other brands. Was just thinking of giving it a try, personally I see Deuter more as overexposed rather than overrated. And overexposed doesn't necessarily mean its bad.

Osprey, however, is new to me. I've seen some of their packs at Tearproof in the Curve and man are they ugly. One thing about the Deuter packs are that they look good. Are there any Osprey models you could recommend to me? Something around the range of a 50L to 60L. Thanks!

Edit: Oh yeah, and would you guys know where to find genuine Lowe Alpine bags? Because I bought all my Lowe Alpine packs overseas, I can't seem to find them in Malaysia.

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Ulgy packs are probably advantageous to backpackers since the smugglers will less likely target on you.
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Jan 15 2011, 05:30 PM)
Ulgy packs are probably advantageous to backpackers since the smugglers will less likely target on you.
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Spot on LKM!
One can hardly make out the real from the fake Deuters these days.

Looks are important but you may also want to consider practicality and functionality. There are packs that look MUCH better than Deuters. Take a look at packs like Cilo, One Planet, Fairy Down and not forgotten Arcteryx. These are packs that are field proven. Often times, packs that really work don really look good at all.

There also Military spec packs like Kifaru, Mystery Ranch and Spec Ops that are just splendid.


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Thanks for the tips guys. While I don't necessarily believe that form cannot come with function, you've given me a lot of choices to look at. Just wish I knew for sure where I can get genuine items though.

Thanks again!
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Hello, I'm thinking of buying a backpack for my Europe trip..Not too big.. max is around 40 liter coz i'm quite short.. 1.7m only sad.gif

Anyway, I'm from JB and any shop that sells original bags? I know there are a lot of FAKE or REPLICAs out there but seriously i do not want to touch those bags..

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almost all backpacks are top loading.. means cant check in airport la? not secure leh
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almost all backpacks are top loading.. means cant check in airport la? not secure leh
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Yes. you can. Get a duffle or backpack cover, stuff the backpack in and lock it. Teafproof have.
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Yes. you can. Get a duffle or backpack cover, stuff the backpack in and lock it. Teafproof have.
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Mind to share a link to show the cover u have mentioned? I tried to search but it doesn't seem right to me
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Mind to share a link to show the cover u have mentioned? I tried to search but it doesn't seem right to me
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tomorow will go to pertama complexs buy a new bag biggrin.gif

any recommendation shop that offer good price? sales, discount etc
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Just for members info whom are looking for wheeled & duffel backpack, Tearproof Times Square has the High Sierra AT359-207 model (capacity = 110L) now going for RM523 after 25% discount which would end by Feb 16 '11....got myself the bag and found quality to be excellent! rclxms.gif


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Just bought Osprey Talon 44.. anyone bought this brand be4?
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osprey bag is one of my target before but once i saw the 'tali' to carry the bag terus cancel. too small la. biggrin.gif
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Ya, i have the same feelings as well.. smaller than Deuter etc.. but the seller said "everyone scared when look at it but actually is tough one!" haha.. So i gave it a try
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osprey is quit familiar for climber beside karrimor, macpac etc biggrin.gif
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the north face is not famous in msia?。。i just bought terra 60 for 50 pounds in uk...good price?
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I saw quite a number of ppl using TNF also.. how about other brands? how much in UK?
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QUOTE(jingyong @ Feb 8 2011, 03:43 PM)
I saw quite a number of ppl using TNF also.. how about other brands? how much in UK?
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Jingyong...in my humble opinion...Osprey is one of the best packs you can ever buy. They are comfortable and practical.
Like many things manufactured today...they are not built to last forever...I think that is the golden rule of almost all manufacturers these days.
Though it may be flimsy and looks weak...I think you have made a really good choice getting an Osprey. I would do the same time...anytime.

TNF are good packs too but unfortunately, the original items are just toooo expensive here in Malaysia. Like Deuter...your biggest challenge is to identify which is real and which is fake!


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QUOTE(alamdamai1 @ Jan 24 2011, 08:56 AM)
Just for members info whom are looking for wheeled & duffel backpack, Tearproof Times Square has the High Sierra AT359-207 model (capacity = 110L) now going for RM523 after 25% discount which would end by Feb 16 '11....got myself the bag and found quality to be excellent!  rclxms.gif
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I think AirAsia Megastore is selling a smaller one for RM 309.
http://www.airasiamegastore.com/webapp/wcs...playErrorView__
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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Feb 9 2011, 11:47 PM)
I think AirAsia Megastore is selling a smaller one for RM 309.
http://www.airasiamegastore.com/webapp/wcs...playErrorView__
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wahhh...good price....thx for the link... rclxms.gif
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arc'teryx bora 65 here....

anyone else owner arc'teryx??
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QUOTE(jingyong @ Feb 7 2011, 03:57 PM)
Ya, i have the same feelings as well.. smaller than Deuter etc.. but the seller said "everyone scared when look at it but actually is tough one!" haha.. So i gave it a try
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yea..used this brand for more than 1 year and i like it a lot thumbup.gif ..mine is osprey aether 70.
never had a problem with it.carried 13kg++ during my hiking trip without any probs rclxms.gif
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I'm in Edinburgh and I saw this in a sport shop..

Karrimor 65 liter GBP45 (70% off)
Karrimor 25+5 liter GBP30 (50% off)
Karrimor 35 liter GBP20 (70% off)
Lowe Alpine 65 liter GBP50 (50% off)

So cheap leh


Added on February 22, 2011, 5:02 amI just realized something.. In UK, Karrimor is a lousy brand.. after Mike Ashley bought it and sell it in his SportsDirect shop.. lol..

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phew....after 20 pages of reading this thread i still can't make my mind
Mr. Keong, can u enlighten us on how to spot top grade replicas?
Fakes for me are easy to spot but high grade replicas gonna an expert like u.
hope u dont mind
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QUOTE(jAck66 @ Feb 10 2011, 08:31 PM)
arc'teryx bora 65 here....

anyone else owner arc'teryx??
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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Feb 22 2011, 11:40 PM)
Nice bag but way out of my budget for Bora 80. At the end i get myself Osprey 85 instead.
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QUOTE(mabaw @ Feb 22 2011, 03:08 PM)
phew....after 20 pages of reading this thread i still can't make my mind
Mr. Keong, can u enlighten us on how to spot top grade replicas?
Fakes for me are easy to spot but high grade replicas gonna an expert like u.
hope u dont mind
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Are u referring to deuter brand?
To avoid buying replica deuter bag opt for other brand.there's a lot of other good brand out there,some of it even better than deuter plus u can avoid buying fake replica.karrimor,millet,lafuma,osprey,lowe alpine are good example.
The price may range from rm2xx to rm1000+ depending on size and technology it offers
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i don't mind any brand (i'm eyeing for an osprey aether 85 actually)
before Deuter become popular among those fake seller i noticed a lot of fake TNF going for around 1++.but those are obvious fake now for stuff.but top grade replicas are tough to spot, and our mind will tell us it's original(although it's a replica) if we pay original price for it. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mabaw @ Mar 1 2011, 07:31 PM)
i don't mind any brand (i'm eyeing for an osprey aether 85 actually)
before Deuter become popular among those fake seller i noticed a lot of fake TNF going for around 1++.but those are obvious fake now for stuff.but top grade replicas are tough to spot, and our mind will tell us it's original(although it's a replica) if we pay original price for it. sweat.gif
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yes, that's the best way to reassure ourselves.. lol

Go to their AD shop & buy confirm no replicas.. But too bad malaysia not many outdoor outlets.. but in UK, there r many of them.. Eg Tiso
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QUOTE(mabaw @ Mar 1 2011, 07:31 PM)
i don't mind any brand (i'm eyeing for an osprey aether 85 actually)
before Deuter become popular among those fake seller i noticed a lot of fake TNF going for around 1++.but those are obvious fake now for stuff.but top grade replicas are tough to spot, and our mind will tell us it's original(although it's a replica) if we pay original price for it. sweat.gif
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i'm using aether 70 myself, nice bag with good back support.
used it for several mount hike. thumbup.gif
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anyone know High Sierra Compass 3-In-1 how much? i saw sales in AirAsia Megastore sell RM354
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Any bags that can be recommended to me?
Going for a one week trip smile.gif
Budget RM300 +-
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Hi ,

If anyone happen to passby Tearproof shop, appreciate if your guys/gals can help me to check the price of High Sierra Summit 45 and Explorer 55? I need to buy a backpack for travelling and in Ipoh,there is not much shop that sell backpack.

Hope you guys/gals csn help me. thanks

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Need a backpack recommendation for upcoming bali trip.

What size is recommended for a 4 days trip? i have no idea on how many l is needed. Will be use it for travelling from kl <> hometown as well.

Budget 200-300
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Anyone ever bought the Vertikal bag from Tearproof? How's the performance?
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Hi guys...
Im an avid collector of karrimor SF packs
My collection consist of a few sabre 80-130 and 60-100

Anyone interested in this packs do PM me
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Before reading this thread. i thought of buying deuter quantum series 70+10 for my work and travel in united states.

After reading all 21 pages, i'm puzzled as to which one to buy. i checked out osprey aether 85. It costs about rm880 while for the quantum 70+10 costs only 630 (don't know whether it's an ori or a replica).

Then Keong suggested getting lowe alpine. I checked their website and saw makolo 85. how much is Nadir selling and can it be taken for a 4 months work and travel trip?
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Hi guys, when I searched for Deuter Futura 32L and Deuter Futura 38L Pro bags....

For the same bag and same price....i found out tat there's a difference in the material used to make this bag....
One of it is Microrip-Nylon and the other is Ripstop...just wanna ask how come there's a variation in the material used for the same bag and same price???

And what's the difference??

And also, I will be going for a 5 days 4 nights trip to Cambodia so I'm looking for a bag....so which one will suits me better??
1. deuter futura 28L
2. deuter futura 32L
3. deuter futura 38L Pro

Thanks
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If anyone planning to get Osprey Aether 85 from TearProof, must wait for their sales period. Got 30% discount. I got mine last year for RM620 only.
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QUOTE(khchong81 @ Mar 20 2011, 02:55 PM)
If anyone planning to get Osprey Aether 85 from TearProof, must wait for their sales period. Got 30% discount. I got mine last year for RM620 only.
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when will they have their sales?
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Guys, I will be going for a 5 days 4 nights trip to Cambodia so I'm looking for a bag....so which one will suits me better??
1. deuter futura 28L
2. deuter futura 32L
3. deuter futura 38L Pro

Thanks
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Yes. you can. Get a duffle or backpack cover, stuff the backpack in and lock it. Teafproof have.
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hey all i wan to sell my Vertical Oriental Express II about 80+L to get smaller bag. my thread in Garage Sales is here Oriental Express II for sale
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QUOTE(-Max91- @ Mar 21 2011, 07:20 AM)
Guys, I will be going for a 5 days 4 nights trip to Cambodia so I'm looking for a bag....so which one will suits me better??
1. deuter futura 28L
2. deuter futura 32L
3. deuter futura 38L Pro

Thanks
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deuter futura 38L Pro. the best. no regret buying, except the high price haha.
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Any recommended place in KL to buy backpacks?
Looking for a big one for my one month Euro trip.
Most backpacks seems to be so expensive. My budget around 400+-.

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try pertama..or maybe tear proof
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anyone know where can i shop for this kind of backpack in penang?
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QUOTE(kira_88 @ Apr 20 2011, 02:24 PM)
try pertama..or maybe tear proof
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Thanks, looks like tearproof have branches at MidValley, Times Square and KLCC. Any recommendation of bagpacks for one month backpacking? Budget RM400+-.
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Apr 21 2011, 11:26 AM)
Thanks, looks like tearproof have branches at MidValley, Times Square and KLCC. Any recommendation of bagpacks for one month backpacking? Budget RM400+-.
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with that budget maybe vertical cause its cheaper..depends on how big u are willing to carry how much stuff u want to put,i think 80l bag is big enaf.
if u have more money to spare try a more solid brand such as deuter,karrimor,lowe alpine, osprey,millet. but the price are sometimes a bit overwhelming.
got my osprey aether 70 at rm600 from yoonhin shop in pertama so far i'm very2 satisfied with this bag thumbup.gif
its better for to go down to the shop and pick a bag that suit ur taste biggrin.gif
and vertical brand are also not so bad btw

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anyway becareful there are somew fake deuter bags out there look exatcly like original and price alike
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Thanks for the reply. At least I have a head up of the good brand first.
Can find few sellers selling online, but doubtful whether is genuine stuff or not.
Waiting for the promotion at TearProof or anywhere around KL.
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QUOTE(Ethanps3 @ Apr 22 2011, 04:42 PM)
anyway becareful there are somew fake deuter bags out there look exatcly like original and price alike
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yea..better buy brand that are not deuter than

QUOTE(Kelv @ Apr 22 2011, 04:45 PM)
Thanks for the reply. At least I have a head up of the good brand first.
Can find few sellers selling online, but doubtful whether is genuine stuff or not.
Waiting for the promotion at TearProof or anywhere around KL.
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i suggest u went to mdm sia shop in pertama,she got good bargain on bags.30% at least if i'm not mistaken.my bag cost around rm8xx in tearproof but she sell it cheaper and i can assure u that she's selling original
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Manage to pass by TearProof at Times Square. Only got Vertikal, Osprey and High Sierra there. Vertikal is cheap compare to the rest, I guess is a Singapore brand?
The staff there said no promotion now, and mainly old stocks. Suggesting me should be a sale on June.
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yes..its an in house brand by bodypac the distributor of most bag here.
price are a lot more cheaper but also poorer quality compared to other well known brand.
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Wondering anyone bought backpack online?
I found out www.ebags.com actually have clearance sales and is quite cheap. Not sure about the delivery/shipping.


Added on April 26, 2011, 2:27 pmOh no, the price changed in few hours. Discount reduced from 20% to 15%.

This post has been edited by Kelv: Apr 26 2011, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Apr 26 2011, 10:08 AM)
Wondering anyone bought backpack online?
I found out www.ebags.com actually have clearance sales and is quite cheap. Not sure about the delivery/shipping.


Added on April 26, 2011, 2:27 pmOh no, the price changed in few hours. Discount reduced from 20% to 15%.
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i just bought from ebags, will use comgateway to ship to my house. will tell you how much it is
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i just bought from ebags, will use comgateway to ship to my house. will tell you how much it is
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You buy backpacks also? ebags now free shipping for purchase >$50. Wondering how much total shipping by comgateway then.
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Apr 26 2011, 11:24 PM)
You buy backpacks also? ebags now free shipping for purchase >$50. Wondering how much total shipping by comgateway then.
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i applied the 30% off coupon, so i got the High Sierra Explorer 55 for $56. I think it's worth a shot, with AA Megastore selling at RM340 and Tearproof selling way more than that.
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QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Apr 27 2011, 01:34 PM)
i applied the 30% off coupon, so i got the High Sierra Explorer 55 for $56. I think it's worth a shot, with AA Megastore selling at RM340 and Tearproof selling way more than that.
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So how much total in RM including shipping? tearproof is selling 400+, more expensive.

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i duno yet, waiting for it to arrive at my us address, will keep you updated.
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hi guys, are we suppose to bend the aluminium bar to fit the shape of our back?

i got a deuter act lite, and i was wondering whether the aluminium bar that support our back are made for us to bend according to our body shape or it is designed to stay on the shape that it originally came with...?
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i suggest u went to mdm sia shop in pertama,she got good bargain on bags.
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what is her shop's name?
i got bad experience dealing with auntie seller at pertama complex, hopefully not the above^
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Pertama Complex, Kedai Beg Yoon Hin.

Just visited yesterday, good seller.. In front of video games arcade if i'm not mistaken
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will like to ask, jusco travelling backpack izit original or some of it is replica? thanks
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hey anybody got the contact and name of this madam sia in pertama complex? any idea if they are open on sundays?
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QUOTE(Togepy @ May 2 2011, 05:48 PM)
hi guys, are we suppose to bend the aluminium bar to fit the shape of our back?

i got a deuter act lite, and i was wondering whether the aluminium bar that support our back are made for us to bend according to our body shape or it is designed to stay on the shape that it originally came with...?
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the aluminium bar will actually bend according to ur body contour.but not through force..never bent it urself..u need to carry weigh with that bag for quite sometime,and it will bend to follow your body contour nicely. that's why it is not recommended to share backpack

QUOTE(moochan @ May 2 2011, 09:18 PM)
what is her shop's name?
i got bad experience dealing with auntie seller at pertama complex, hopefully not the above^
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kedai bag yoon hin..what happen??cucite cucite??

QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ May 9 2011, 01:11 PM)
hey anybody got the contact and name of this madam sia in pertama complex? any idea if they are open on sundays?
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here the number 0126954843
i think they are open on sunday biggrin.gif
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I just visited Madam Sia's place today. Oh....she has a lovely range of Ospreys & Karrimor.
I will be placing my order really soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(Keong @ May 9 2011, 09:25 PM)
I just visited Madam Sia's place today. Oh....she has a lovely range of Ospreys & Karrimor.
I will be placing my order really soon smile.gif
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Pertama Complex, Kedai Beg Yoon Hin.

Just visited yesterday, good seller.. In front of video games arcade if i'm not mistaken
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hey anybody got the contact and name of this madam sia in pertama complex? any idea if they are open on sundays?
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QUOTE(kira_88 @ May 9 2011, 02:13 PM)
the aluminium bar will actually bend according to ur body contour.but not through force..never bent it urself..u need to carry weigh with that bag for quite sometime,and it will bend to follow your body contour nicely. that's  why it is not recommended to share backpack
kedai bag yoon hin..what happen??cucite cucite??
here the number 0126954843
i think they are open on sunday biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Keong @ May 9 2011, 09:25 PM)
I just visited Madam Sia's place today. Oh....she has a lovely range of Ospreys & Karrimor.
I will be placing my order really soon smile.gif
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well... not to spoil your excitement
this is exactly 'the place' i bought my deuter 10L rucksack on 2009

she claims the bag is original & had a lifetime warranty
only after a few months using it (not even 1 year), terkoyak at the right bottom side due to heavy usage and i send back to her for 'repair' as she claims will be able to send back to factory to fix it

after one 2 week got back, was told the bag is still under repair
one month, two month, 6 mth, 9 mth, and 1 year+ i've been visiting her again and again, was told the same story.. still under repair

after a year + i decided to approach her again and ask whether she really sent my bag to 'repair'
to my surprise it's still under her custody collecting dust only

i took back my bag & send it to fix&repair shop @ alamanda, cost me around rm25 only to fix the bag


i think i got a replica deuter bag coz she offer me huge discounted price, furthermore i was told by another seller that this shop likes to mix between ori & replica product to sell at almost the same or below market price

lesson learned, not going to buy from her again, even though it's original but her attitude is unacceptable to me
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sorry to hear that bro..didn't know stuff like that happen
b4 this when i want to make warranty claim for my bag she ask me to deal directly with the distro tearproof. No problem for me except need to wait long due to wrong part sent by osprey.
just to be safe...avoid buying deuter bags cause there are a lot of high grade replica out there,opt for other brands, some of them are a lot more better than deuter
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Hi guys...
Sorry to hear about your 'misfortunes' with backpacks.

One of the biggest challenge for us here in Malaysia when it comes to outdoor gear and claims I think is due to the fact that there are no local 'repairers'. In countries where the market is big, manufacturers can have 'repair' sections in their company to attend to such matters. Here, quite susah. To open such a place is simply a waste of money.


Generally, I think most outdoor gear in Malaysia do not have comprehensive 'warranty'. They can call it lifetime warranty etc but the truth is, to send the item back to the manufacturer in the US, get it repaired and then sent back to us may even cost as much as the item itself! Some manufacturer will bear the shipping cost, some will actually ask us to bear it.

I think we all have good and bad experiences with outdoor gear. I have a friend who broke one of the blades in his leatherman. Sent it back to Leatherman USA and got a new unit! So...he is a happy dude.

I think one lesson we can all learn from your unfortunate experiences is that we cannot expect 'warranty' claims to be 'in effect' for all outdoor gear in Malaysia. It is simply not possible, time consuming and possibly too costly.
That's my personal opinion anyway.


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QUOTE(Keong @ May 11 2011, 10:24 AM)
Hi guys...
Sorry to hear about your 'misfortunes' with backpacks.

One of the biggest challenge for us here in Malaysia when it comes to outdoor gear and claims I think is due to the fact that there are no local 'repairers'. In countries where the market is big, manufacturers can have 'repair' sections in their company to attend to such matters. Here, quite susah. To open such a place is simply a waste of money.
Generally, I think most outdoor gear in Malaysia do not have comprehensive 'warranty'. They can call it lifetime warranty etc but the truth is, to send the item back to the manufacturer in the US, get it repaired and then sent back to us may even cost as much as the item itself! Some manufacturer will bear the shipping cost, some will actually ask us to bear it.

I think we all have good and bad experiences with outdoor gear. I have a friend who broke one of the blades in his leatherman. Sent it back to Leatherman USA and got a new unit! So...he is a happy dude.

I think one lesson we can all learn from your unfortunate experiences is that we cannot expect 'warranty' claims to be 'in effect' for all outdoor gear in Malaysia. It is simply not possible, time consuming and possibly too costly.
That's my personal opinion anyway.
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is okay to wait for warranty claim
but in my case, it has been kept for 1 year plus at her store, telling me lie that it has been sent over to manufacturer ..dis i cannot accept

perhaps it's due to non-original goods that she was afraid to tell customer that it can't be repaired nor she has the guts to claim warranty from manufacturer ..liar +attitude problem

bye bye kedai bag Yoon Hin, i will not buy anything again from you
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Sigh, my only backpack has "RIP" after my recent trip back from India. I remember I bought it @5-10 USD in Vietnam/Thailand more than 10 years ago (no brand one). Money well spent as I didn't take care of the bag though. doh.gif

Read the whole thread and I am interested to buy Ospreys. I guess I need to visit the Tearproof MV, KLCC and Time Square / Pertama Complex Mdm Sia to try out the backpack. Any other places that I can find Ospreys??? blush.gif

ps. Any promotion???

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haha.... that's funny but expected. The basket basically is free to dump anything inside as it will stretch a little bit because made of rattan.
Anyway, the pic is for illustration. When I'm back home for CNY see whether or not I managed to go take a pic of his modified pack.
He is into DIY, so far the "gas stove/burner" he modified serves us the best in most hiking/camping trip.
Most hiking packs comes with sort of steel frame inside or outside to gives support and maintain the pack's structure. Thus even it's not fully pack, it will look bulky. So if you ask me, 40+10 pack wouldn't do as hand carry. But still depends on whether or not they let you check in as hand carry.
I never dare to try unless I know the flight is not that full but definitely don't try in Korea as I was there a few weeks back and they are quite strict about hand carry baggage where they would have the bag frame there and would ask you to fit it in, if in then ok; if out then need to check in. Besides that, they also have a weighting machine.
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I have the exact same bag,ACT 40+10 and i'm going to the exact place mentioned above NOT TO GO THERE WITH THAT BAG AS HAND CARRY (korea) ahahaha...scaredd~!!
I found a reply form a user saying that her/his deuter 40 passed to go in as hand carry and a few other traveler saying that their 32L-40L bags have no problem going in to the cabin....but since u've mentioned that Korea is kinda strict bout this..i kinda not sure bout it anymore.

But i won't have my bag check in from KL-SEOUL but from SEOUL-KL i'll be checking in my baggage...that wouldn't be a problem right?

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i bought Osprey 36L bag frm Madam Sia.
used it for Hiking in Taman Negara.
8hrs hiking and bag is still fine..
the bag is lightweight also..quite a plus point.
alot lighter than dueter.

hv been using the bag for 6mths now..hv been travelling with me to Cambodia and other places..can go through as cabin luggage. nice.

Price at Madam Sia's i think is RM390 if i'm not mistaken.

http://www.ospreypacks.com/Packs/StratosSe...ated/Stratos36/

i have v small frame, for dueter i have to use the SL series. but this Osprey can fit me nicely..



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QUOTE(dzura @ Jun 1 2011, 05:22 PM)
I have the exact same bag,ACT 40+10 and i'm going to the exact place mentioned above NOT TO GO THERE WITH THAT BAG AS HAND CARRY (korea) ahahaha...scaredd~!!
I found a reply form a user saying that her/his deuter 40 passed to go in as hand carry and a few other traveler saying that their 32L-40L bags have no problem going in to the cabin....but since u've mentioned that Korea is kinda strict bout this..i kinda not sure bout it anymore.

But i won't have my bag check in from KL-SEOUL but from SEOUL-KL i'll be checking in my baggage...that wouldn't be a problem right?
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It really depends on the one checking the bags at the point in time. If the person is ok, then ok. If the person is strict it wouldn't pass.
There's once my wife was being forced to check-in her hand-carry luggage at LCCT just because she has a laptop bag (on her back) and a cabin bag. Stupid if you ask me, but if the person is strict; the rules are 1 bag allowed on board only. rclxub.gif

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There's once my wife was being forced to check-in her hand-carry luggage at LCCT just because she has a laptop bag (on her back) and a cabin bag. Stupid if you ask me, but if the person is strict; the rules are 1 bag allowed on board only.  rclxub.gif
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you can argue with them actually. coz AA policy is 1 laptop bag or handbag with hand carry. but still, it depends on the person in charge.
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guys, bagpack can be carry to the plane?
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Check into luggage lah. Why want to carry a large backpack into cabin?
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What plane? AirAsia has a size and weight (7kg) limit. If you're carrying those typical large backpacks then you're definitely going to have to check it.

Other planes would be less strict.
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Not too sure if this is the right thread to post, but would like to enquire something regarding backpack.

I'll be going for my 1st ever backpacking trip this coming October for 16 days. Definitely I'll have to get myself a backpack. I'm a gal. Budget for one hopefully not over RM500. Maximum I can go is RM600. Which bag would you guys recommend? Thank You so much smile.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 5 2011, 12:29 PM)
Check into luggage lah. Why want to carry a large backpack into cabin?
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QUOTE(lycaphim @ Jun 5 2011, 02:18 PM)
What plane? AirAsia has a size and weight (7kg) limit. If you're carrying those typical large backpacks then you're definitely going to have to check it.

Other planes would be less strict.
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Alright. Thanks smile.gif
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Last week went Midvalley saw Jusco got promotion on the bagpacks. Mostly Deuter and Coleman. 20 to 50% off.
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i bought my deuter size 32 for rm388. original price was 500+
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QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Jun 6 2011, 11:18 PM)
Not too sure if this is the right thread to post, but would like to enquire something regarding backpack.

I'll be going for my 1st ever backpacking trip this coming October for 16 days. Definitely I'll have to get myself a backpack. I'm a gal. Budget for one hopefully not over RM500. Maximum I can go is RM600. Which bag would you guys recommend? Thank You so much smile.gif
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Again, do not be fooled by seeing Eurasian backpackers backpacking with their bags on their bag.
When you meant backpacking trip, do you intend to bring your bag everywhere with you whenever you travel? How are you travelling?
If you're not travelling much and doesn't need to bring your bag everywhere you go, why would you need a backpack? Wouldn't a bag with trolley wheels or spinners even easier to bring around?

Personally if I'm going on holiday, I don't really like to bring backpack. One thing I don't like is packing of cloths. With a normal luggage, I can just unzip and find my things easily instead of stuffing my things into backpacks and sometimes when needed, have to take everything out because it's in the bottom of the pack.

So think carefully hat's your purpose and why you need a backpack before buying one.
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Last week went Midvalley saw Jusco got promotion on the bagpacks. Mostly Deuter and Coleman. 20 to 50% off.
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Oh man I missed that!
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I have two rucksack....one is deuter futura or something...i cant recall the exact name, but picture as below..the other one is Vertical....pictures must be somewhere in my pc at home...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pilothans/4767272688
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QUOTE(Kelv @ Jun 8 2011, 03:46 PM)
Last week went Midvalley saw Jusco got promotion on the bagpacks. Mostly Deuter and Coleman. 20 to 50% off.
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is it still on? i want to find a toiletries beg.....at uptown non original one already rm75 shakehead.gif

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What is toiletries beg?
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bag where u put shampoo, soap, toothbrush n all...did i use the wrong term? sweat.gif tongue.gif
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Ya, I saw Deuter toiletries bag 50% off there.
I saw Deuter wizard 20% off too, but somehow the material doesn't look promising to me, so didn't buy.

I will be bringing a 55l bagpack for my one month trip.
Looking for a convenient daypack as well.
Preferable convertible. Any suggestion?

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bag where u put shampoo, soap, toothbrush n all...did i use the wrong term?  sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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Thanks. I thought a beg use to pee. Ha,......
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Again, do not be fooled by seeing Eurasian backpackers backpacking with their bags on their bag.
When you meant backpacking trip, do you intend to bring your bag everywhere with you whenever you travel? How are you travelling?
If you're not travelling much and doesn't need to bring your bag everywhere you go, why would you need a backpack? Wouldn't a bag with trolley wheels or spinners even easier to bring around?

Personally if I'm going on holiday, I don't really like to bring backpack. One thing I don't like is packing of cloths. With a normal luggage, I can just unzip and find my things easily instead of stuffing my things into backpacks and sometimes when needed, have to take everything out because it's in the bottom of the pack.

So think carefully hat's your purpose and why you need a backpack before buying one.
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Boon, actually, the trip is more like a spontaneous one. Without proper planning of places to stay or how to go about. Even we are ready to sleep anywhere (public places) if we have to. also, we won't really be staying at a place. most likely gonna move quite alot. Of course I personally would prefer those trolley kinda bag as I can use it some other time, plus backpack are freaking expensive. But then, judging from my kinda trip this time, prolly carrying something behind me would be better.
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QUOTE(LoveMeNot @ Jun 10 2011, 11:09 PM)
Boon, actually, the trip is more like a spontaneous one. Without proper planning of places to stay or how to go about. Even we are ready to sleep anywhere (public places) if we have to. also, we won't really be staying at a place. most likely gonna move quite alot. Of course I personally would prefer those trolley kinda bag as I can use it some other time, plus backpack are freaking expensive. But then, judging from my kinda trip this time, prolly carrying something behind me would be better.
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If that is the case, then get a Deuter. Deuter got "SL" range meant more for woman.
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If that is the case, then get a Deuter. Deuter got "SL" range meant more for woman.
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Yeah. I saw that range too. Will a 50 L enough for 16 days huh? Also, this might be a silly question, for these kinda bags, is there such thing as trolley-like attachment which I can buy separately to attach to my bag in case I need it?lol tongue.gif
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16 days is very long. You'll definitely need to find laundry shops.
But anyway, you can also look for "compression sack" something like this: http://www.seatosummit.com/products/display/39
So you pack your cloths inside and there's 3-4 draw cords to let you tighten it i.e. to compress your clothing.
How big a pack you need actually depends on individual. Try prepare a list of items you want to bring. Then go shopping and try to imagine to see whether or not it will fit.

Backpacks with trolley, yes there is. I think TearProof got. But whether or not it's comfortable I'm not sure.

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16 days is very long. You'll definitely need to find laundry shops.
But anyway, you can also look for "compression sack" something like this: http://www.seatosummit.com/products/display/39
So you pack your cloths inside and there's 3-4 draw cords to let you tighten it i.e. to compress your clothing.
How big a pack you need actually depends on individual. Try prepare a list of items you want to bring. Then go shopping and try to imagine to see whether or not it will fit.

Backpacks with trolley, yes there is. I think TearProof got. But whether or not it's comfortable I'm not sure.
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Thank you so much boon for your reply. It helps. Now I'll have to look for the best bargained price at the right place. Thanks again smile.gif
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If you want good range and many choice, I think I would suggest pertama complex since many also suggested that shop. Never personally been there though. But I got a Deuter Giga Office Pro from an online seller whom also got the bag from that shop.
He worked nearby so it's easy for him to buy and COD with me elsewhere. He's lawyer actually. smile.gif
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I will have to agree with Boon. Go to Pertama Complex and have a look. Many choices there.
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Hey, im just new here, im looking for 50-60L backpacks in Penang, anyone would recommend me some backpacks store???
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Hi, you guys can consider 100% waterproof backpack too, it's light and durable and most importantly can be used for any occasion like hiking, fishing, rafting, kayaking, beach, riding in rainy days and any watersport..

www.trendz.biz
FB:http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Trendz-Waterproof-Accessories/136682699706817

You can order online or visit shop at Times Square KL(LG Floor Kiosk)

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Please let me know where i can get Berghaus backpacks.
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Does anyone have any tips for cleaning a Deuter Backpack? I have a 38L Spectro that I checked in during y flight and it has got like black oily mark on it sad.gif . If anyone does have experience washing it please share thanks!
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I think you can use damp cloths to clean it. And air it dry; don't put under direct sunlight.
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Saw 2 different bagpacks; Slazenger 60L and Vertikal Alaska, both RM200++ Anyone used those brands before, and how was it???

Thankss...
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since alot of us got backpack/rucksack here, when was the last time its being used?

any hiking kakis here?
plan to hike Nuang since it's nearer in K.V
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My best and worse back pack is my Millet Nanda 70+10. The best because i throw it around for more than 5 years over 7 continents and hardly a tear in the fabric. It's also the worst because it broke my heart; the aluminum frame breaks after i accidentally step on it while it was empty ..at home! Since it's the old model the replacement part is not sold anywhere. If anyone can help me construct a new frame or help me find a good one...

Now I'm traveling with deuter futura 32 which i absolutely hate. Built quality is no where near my Millet and because of the stupid aircontact frame the cargo space is virtually useless. I'm currently looking for a better 35-40L backpack. That said I use it almost every week when I'm on my road trip, it's small so it didnt stick out of my bike which is a huge plus.


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Saw 2 different bagpacks; Slazenger 60L and Vertikal Alaska, both RM200++ Anyone used those brands before, and how was it???

Thankss...
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If your aluminium frame is just 1 long bar, it is not difficult to get. Search around some hardware shop that sell iron material. Or you can post the picture here see anybody can help.
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Nah, it's a U shape bar with curves which is the hard part. I tried fitted straight aluminum U bar, wont fit.
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Anyone know any shop in Penang that sell Osprey backpack?

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Anyone know any shop in Penang that sell Osprey backpack?
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If not mistaken, Rofina at Gurney Drive have Osprey Backpack... go check it out... smile.gif
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mine using Jack Wolfskin.
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i want some recommendation on shops where i can get backpacks, travelling bags for brands like deuter, lafuma, osprey, high sierra etc.

i heard of a place in Pertama complex, by madam sia. are the bags she sell ori or replicas?

please help. thanks !
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get a good quality bags..not branded....pertama ada banyak there...
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If not mistaken, Rofina at Gurney Drive have Osprey Backpack... go check it out... smile.gif
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Okay, thanks. Do you have any idea where is a good place to hunt for backpack or luggage in Penang? Not necessarily have to be branded. I think I saw a shop beside Chowrasta market that sells some backpacks. However, I'm not sure if they are selling authentic or not.

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