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Nikon D90

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The D90 is a digital single-lens reflex camera model announced by Nikon on August 27, 2008. It is a "prosumer" model (cross between professional and consumer) meant as a replacement for the Nikon D80. It is also available with the newly announced Nikkor AF-S DX 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR kit lens.

Some of the improvements the D90 offers over the D80 include 12.3 megapixel resolution and live view capability. The D90 is also notable for being the first DSLR to offer video recording, with the ability to record HD 720p videos, with mono sound, at 24 frames per second (for up to 5 minutes or 20 minutes for smaller videos).

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Previous thread

V1-http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=761079

V2-http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=884366

V3-http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1018914

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@ifer - Your uni got offer for D700 ah?

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guys, anyone have the 70-200vr? is it worth the money or 80-200 is enough?
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QUOTE(koptalker11 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:06 AM)
guys, anyone have the 70-200vr? is it worth the money or 80-200 is enough?
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Yes it is worth the money.

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wow...v4 already...hehe.. smile.gif
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The D90 thread is really moving fast tongue.gif
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must be a good camera to talk about then wink.gif
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yeah...of coz...that 1 of the reason now it was selling hot...XD
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Aug 31 2009, 12:14 PM)
yeah...of coz...that 1 of the reason now it was selling hot...XD
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looks like we have the same wish list icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm...base on ur signature...i tot u have the body already??
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Aug 31 2009, 12:56 PM)
hmm...base on ur signature...i tot u have the body already??
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haha thats my wish list.
i only have the D60 with the kit lens, and the Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Aug 31 2009, 01:03 PM)
haha thats my wish list.
i only have the D60 with the kit lens, and the Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6
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finding the poison before eating it eh? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Aug 31 2009, 08:49 AM)
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@ifer - Your uni got offer for D700 ah?
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i can ask for you but don't expect super low price. the price this nikon sales quote me for my students is not as low as, say j-one.

coz my uni has a lot of international students and them going to sungei wang means massacre in resident evil style, so i approached nikon for deals like this. it's mainly to help out the students (and myself coz it's bad enough to get cheated for paying higher price, and it's super bad if they got cheated in 'fake batteries' and grey imports)

normally nikon do this offer for the first month of new sem begins. so i have 2 more weeks before they shut the deal.
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Aug 31 2009, 01:14 PM)
finding the poison before eating it eh?  laugh.gif
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haha exactly! aah can't wait to get it all biggrin.gif
anyway, is everybody happy with their D90?
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Aug 31 2009, 01:03 PM)
haha thats my wish list.
i only have the D60 with the kit lens, and the Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6
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oic...not bad wat...at least still got d60 wiv wide angle lens...

QUOTE(ifer @ Aug 31 2009, 01:22 PM)
i can ask for you but don't expect super low price. the price this nikon sales quote me for my students is not as low as, say j-one.

coz my uni has a lot of international students and them going to sungei wang means massacre in resident evil style, so i approached nikon for deals like this. it's mainly to help out the students (and myself coz it's bad enough to get cheated for paying higher price, and it's super bad if they got cheated in 'fake batteries' and grey imports)

normally nikon do this offer for the first month of new sem begins. so i have 2 more weeks before they shut the deal.
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hmm...might wanna buy from ur uni there also...>.< since it was quite cheap...
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V4 rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(koptalker11 @ Aug 31 2009, 10:06 AM)
guys, anyone have the 70-200vr? is it worth the money or 80-200 is enough?
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to be honest it depends on what u wanna do la..

AFS 70-200VR --- got AFS motor and VR
AFS 80-200 --- got AFS motor (no new ones, can only get 2nd hand)
AFD 80-200 two touch (Mark III) --- the latest AFD version but still in stock and cheaper too

All three focuses fast but the fastest would be the 70200 VR but at a much higher price. Keep in mind the weight too. An AFD 80200 is more comfortable handheld than a 70200VR which is really a muscle builder...hehe biggrin.gif

For a 2nd hand AFD 80200 MK-III (RM 3K), u can get urself an all rounder NEW 18200VR (RM 2.5K) + prime lens NEW AFD 50mm f/1.4 (RM 1k) which totals for around RM6.5K = price of a new 70200VR

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imo,
they normally call the current available AFD 80-200 as the two touch version. Mark III sounds so kenon-ish tongue.gif
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edited & corrected info..see post below

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Aug 31 2009, 04:33 PM)
oh yeah..im not so sure about that.. the current is two touch and and the previous one is push pull right?
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As far as i know, there are 3 versions of AF-D and 1 version of AF-S for the 80-200 F/2.8.

Mk 1 is the push pull.
Mk 2 is the 2 touch.
Mk 3 is the new 2 touch which is still available on the market brand new today.

While the other one is the AF-S 80-200 F/2.8.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
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Yes correct. There are 3 versions of AFD 80-200 f/2.8

MK 1 - Push pull - Do not have tripod collar
"Basic lens operation remains as an one-touch sliding zoom"
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MK 2 - Also push pull - Do not have tripod collar
"The AF Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED lens still retains a one-touch sliding zoom design "
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MK 3 - Two touch - Have tripod collar
"change from one-touch sliding zoom to dual rings design"
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Info from mir.com.my

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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Aug 31 2009, 01:29 PM)
haha exactly! aah can't wait to get it all biggrin.gif
anyway, is everybody happy with their D90?
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hahha..HAPPY Indeed! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Aug 31 2009, 05:06 PM)
Yes correct. There are 3 versions of AFD 80-200 f/2.8

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I hear that if VR losak - 600 ringgit shocking.gif ... if AFS motor losak - 1500 ringgit blink.gif cry.gif . Maybe somebody can confirm this. hmm.gif Better go for the MK 3 if true. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Aug 31 2009, 01:29 PM)
haha exactly! aah can't wait to get it all biggrin.gif
anyway, is everybody happy with their D90?
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Yes rclxm9.gif . So far so good. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Aug 31 2009, 01:29 PM)
haha exactly! aah can't wait to get it all biggrin.gif
anyway, is everybody happy with their D90?
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So far so good biggrin.gif, just a bit irritated with the default file naming system. But right now working well after changing it smile.gif.
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Aug 31 2009, 05:49 PM)
I hear that if VR losak - 600 ringgit  shocking.gif  ... if AFS motor losak - 1500 ringgit  blink.gif  cry.gif . Maybe somebody can confirm this.  hmm.gif Better go for the MK 3  if true.  biggrin.gif

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Yeap, pretty much there.
My money would be on an Mk 1 as it's the most affordable.
But the thing is, the tripod collar does make a lot of a difference.

Eventhough the Mk1 and Mk2 are 400g lighter than the Mk 3, but it's still pretty heavy at 1.2kg...
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Aug 31 2009, 01:29 PM)
haha exactly! aah can't wait to get it all biggrin.gif
anyway, is everybody happy with their D90?
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Yeap very happy with my new d90!
I was surprised by the battery life, i still haven't charge the battery yet. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(@meno @ Aug 31 2009, 06:01 PM)
Yeap, pretty much there.
My money would be on an Mk 1 as it's the most affordable.
But the thing is, the tripod collar does make a lot of a difference.

Eventhough the Mk1 and Mk2 are 400g lighter than the Mk 3, but it's still pretty heavy at 1.2kg...
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The push pull has a lot of zoom creep shakehead.gif . If you can live with that, then by all means get it. The "Mk 3" also has its problems. icon_question.gif

Plastic ring cracked
Manual focus clutch breaks

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Aug 31 2009, 06:14 PM)
The push pull has a lot of zoom creep  shakehead.gif . If you can live with that, then by all means get it. The "Mk 3" also has its problems.  icon_question.gif

Plastic ring cracked
Manual focus clutch breaks
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Yeah, agreed about the zoom creep part.
Almost all push pull lenses suffer this issue, except for the 70-210 F4-5.6 which i have seen multiple copies and all of them do not have such issues... brows.gif

Anyway, for people like us who could not afford the 70-200 Vr or VRII, i guess we'll just have to live with it.
To buy a 70-200 Vr would have been the cost of a new D90 body+80-200 Mk1... laugh.gif
Not to mention the vignetting suffered on the 70-200 Vr.


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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Aug 31 2009, 05:49 PM)
I hear that if VR losak - 600 ringgit  shocking.gif  ... if AFS motor losak - 1500 ringgit  blink.gif  cry.gif . Maybe somebody can confirm this.   hmm.gif Better go for the MK 3  if true.  biggrin.gif


Added on August 31, 2009, 5:51 pm
Yes  rclxm9.gif . So far so good.  thumbup.gif
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waaahhh shakehead.gif vr rosak rm600 still considerable..but AFS motor rosak rm1500?? wtf..thats expensive.. If anybody wanna buy 2nd hand.. better avoid the AFS version because most do not have warranty anymore.

I cant confirm the prices for the repairs but a shopkeeper told me that it's better to have the AFD 80200 rather than the AFS 80200, because he said that quite a number of people came to his shop to repair their AFS 80200 because the SWM motor breakdown/cant function. It makes sense that a lens without a motor or vr or other internal motorized parts would be much sturdier and can last a harder beating in harsh conditions.

I cannot say that this is also a problem with the AFS-70200VR.. maybe it's much sturdier and better then the AFS-80200.


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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 31 2009, 05:59 PM)
So far so good biggrin.gif, just a bit irritated with the default file naming system. But right now working well after changing it smile.gif.
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Changed to what?

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Aug 31 2009, 06:50 PM)
waaahhh shakehead.gif vr rosak rm600 still considerable..but AFS motor rosak rm1500?? wtf..thats expensive..

I cant confirm the prices for the repairs but a shopkeeper told me that it's better to have the AFD 80200 rather than the AFS 80200, because he said that quite a number of people came to his shop to repair their AFS 80200 because the SWM motor breakdown/cant function. It makes sense that a lens without a motor or vr or other internal motorized parts would be much sturdier and can last a harder beating in harsh conditions.

I cannot say that this is also a problem with the AFS-70200VR.. maybe it's much sturdier and better then the AFS-80200.


Added on August 31, 2009, 6:50 pm

Changed to what?
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Better? Mua ha ha ha ... that's why they have to release a new version. A lot of reviews are saying that its only good for DX sensors. biggrin.gif

Sucky sucky long lens blink.gif
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glad everybody's happy with their D90s
hope I will be too once I get 'em biggrin.gif
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haha...u sure will =)...
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Aug 31 2009, 06:58 PM)
Better? Mua ha ha ha ... that's why they have to release a new version. A lot of reviews are saying that its only good for DX sensors.  biggrin.gif

Sucky sucky long lens  blink.gif
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1. The 70200VR is overall better than AFS 80200. "that's why they have to release a new version" to replace the AFS 80200 with the 70200VR. That's why the AFS 80200 is discontinued whereas the older AFD 80200 is still produced.

2. Sorry that i didnt state that what i meant by "better" is in terms of the SWM motor & the overall body sturdiness aka the weather sealing etc & NOT sharpness nor IQ.

3. It's a good thing that 70200 is good for DX as this is a D90 thread. The 70200VR still works with FX bodies regardless.

4. Lenses are not made by god and are used by human beings.. people complaint a lot.. each lens has it's advantages and disadvantages..

"It seems to depend on which audience/group you'd like a consensus from. Many seem to find that the 70-200/2.8 behaves wonderfully while doing actual, real-life work on a full-frame body. Certainly it has behaved fine for me on actual 35mm film, and I've seen accounts from plenty of people using it on, say, a D700 doing PJ-ish style work where they're very happy. The other camp, which can find misery in less-sharp far corners of the frame while shooting wide open, may not be shooting a practical style that I understand. It's not a landscape lens, to be sure."

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i can ask for you but don't expect super low price. the price this nikon sales quote me for my students is not as low as, say j-one.

coz my uni has a lot of international students and them going to sungei wang means massacre in resident evil style, so i approached nikon for deals like this. it's mainly to help out the students (and myself coz it's bad enough to get cheated for paying higher price, and it's super bad if they got cheated in 'fake batteries' and grey imports)

normally nikon do this offer for the first month of new sem begins. so i have 2 more weeks before they shut the deal.
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glad everybody's happy with their D90s
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i aso wanna buy...just that no so much money...LOLX
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what ur waiting for?? go buy2, regret2 later  laugh.gif
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not enough money yet. and i'm sure there will be no regrets wink.gif
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QUOTE(mafiaboy34 @ Sep 1 2009, 10:15 AM)
dem.. V4 already... so fast.. 3 hari aku balik cuti, dah v4 page 3 lak tu..hehe.. guys.. anyone penah pakai 35-70 nikkor? good ke lense tu?
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its 2.8 right?
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Just got my new D90 on 30/8/09 with kit plus upgraded Tamron lens 18mm-200mm, UV lens protector, LCD protector & one extra battery..all worth RM4,660. Got it at Foto Billion, Plaza Angsana JB
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that is CHEAP!
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the tamron lens has motor built in or not?
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QUOTE(liverzool @ Sep 1 2009, 01:54 PM)
Just got my new D90 on 30/8/09 with kit plus upgraded Tamron lens 18mm-200mm, UV lens protector, LCD protector & one extra battery..all worth RM4,660. Got it at Foto Billion, Plaza Angsana JB
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Whoah, very good offer there! You know the boss personally one ar? unsure.gif
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Whoah, very good offer there! You know the boss personally one ar?  unsure.gif
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its 2.8 right?
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Guys me and jsc_tidus are thinking of getting an uwa lens...im still in the dark with uwa lenses..

These two come in mind

Sigma 1020
- Lower built quality
+ Wider at 10mm and can go upto 20mm
- Quality control record not that nice..

Tokina 1116
+ Superb built quality
- A tad smaller at 11mm

IS THIS TRUE? need advice
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/chart.htm

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/10-24mm.htm#compared

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxiFxui0W-M

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 02:39 PM)
Guys me and jsc_tidus are thinking of getting an uwa lens...im still in the dark with uwa lenses..

These two come in mind

Sigma 1020
- Lower built quality
- Wider at 10mm and can go upto 20mm

Tokina 1116
- Superb built quality
- A tad smaller at 11mm

IS THIS TRUE? need advice
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/chart.htm

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/10-24mm.htm#compared
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few reasons why I bought the Sigma :-

- the feel of the focus ring, magnificent
- it will auto-focus on my D60
- the HSM is awesome, very fast
- 10mm? thats freaking wide!

few reasons why I would buy the Tokina :-

- cheaper (i think)
- at f2.8, works well in low-light situations
- lighter
- smaller filter size, less money

whichever you go with, you won't regret it wink.gif
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Sep 1 2009, 03:14 PM)
few reasons why I bought the Sigma :-

- the feel of the focus ring, magnificent
- it will auto-focus on my D60
- the HSM is awesome, very fast
- 10mm? thats freaking wide!

few reasons why I would buy the Tokina :-

- cheaper (i think)
- at f2.8, works well in low-light situations
- lighter
- smaller filter size, less money

whichever you go with, you won't regret it  wink.gif
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One of the main/limiting reasons i would see a d5000/d60/d40 user buying the sigma 1020 (regardless of sharpness, IQ, distortions) is because it can AF on those bodies and the tokina 1116 cannot.

Sigma
- If the feel of the sigma is magnificent...then the feel of the tokina will be godly
- Will af on d5000 and lower end bodies
- Lighter than tokina
- Has HSM motor but not fixed aperture

Tokina
- The tokina 11-16 is around rm100 more expensive - basically almost the same price..
- Cannot AF on D5000 and lower end bodies
- IT IS HEAVIER than the sigma
- SAME FILTER SIZE

u got to get your facts right

btw, this..a user who has owned both but liked the tokina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxiFxui0W-M

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alpha_company: why not get nikon UWA/
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i'll go for tokina for its constant aperture.. very useful for me indoor..hehe
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 1 2009, 03:37 PM)
alpha_company: why not get nikon UWA/
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which model specifically? the expensive nikon 1224 isnt good as a much cheaper tokina 1116 proving that expensive doesnt necessarily mean better

"The Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X is the best ultrawide zoom available for Nikon DX cameras, better than even Nikon's more expensive 12-24mm AF-S DX. " - http://www.kenrockwell.com/tokina/11-16mm.htm#compare
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dear all,

Do you guys facing any problem with the memory card?
I am using 16G Kingston Class 4 SDHC... Always when i take up to 600photo... It will pop up err msg - CHA.... It is actually the memory card error... After i change another normal SD Card... it can continue to take again... Is this memory card prob or camera prob? i check thru online... quite a number of user kena this problem...


Added on September 1, 2009, 5:11 pmBtw, the normal SD Card memory is really small... 1G only

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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Sep 1 2009, 05:10 PM)
dear all,

Do you guys facing any problem with the memory card?
I am using 16G Kingston Class 4 SDHC... Always when i take up to 600photo... It will pop up err msg - CHA.... It is actually the memory card error... After i change another normal SD Card... it can continue to take again... Is this memory card prob or camera prob? i check thru online... quite a number of user kena this problem...


Added on September 1, 2009, 5:11 pmBtw, the normal SD Card memory is really small... 1G only
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My Sandisk Ultra II 16GB has no such issues.
I can just continue snapping until it fills up the card, which will get me about 900-1000 shots.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 04:04 PM)
which model specifically? the expensive nikon 1224 isnt good as a much cheaper tokina 1116 proving that expensive doesnt necessarily mean better

"The Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X is the best ultrawide zoom available for Nikon DX cameras, better than even Nikon's more expensive 12-24mm AF-S DX. " - http://www.kenrockwell.com/tokina/11-16mm.htm#compare
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my head & wallet already got sigma's name on it, but now alpha_company mention it.. the pricing is quite tempting.. drool.gif

the sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 & tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 is basically the same price? i didnt know this hmm.gif
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AF-S 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G DX ED
AF-S 12-24mm f/4.0G DX IF-ED
Price how much? compare to Tokina/Sigma?

Frankly, i like sigma because of HSM smile.gif hehehe...and I dont mind the f/2.8...it doesnt really matter to me..esp for UWA..

tom_k3nt: could it be ur kingston problem? im using Toshiba class 6 16gb and i have encounter anything like that thus far..

I had bad exp with 1750 so im have prejudice against third party lenses..so sorry..i like tamron built but sigma's color (1750 vs sigma 1770)
i heard tokina is one step above these guys smile.gif

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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Sep 1 2009, 05:10 PM)
dear all,

Do you guys facing any problem with the memory card?
I am using 16G Kingston Class 4 SDHC... Always when i take up to 600photo... It will pop up err msg - CHA.... It is actually the memory card error... After i change another normal SD Card... it can continue to take again... Is this memory card prob or camera prob? i check thru online... quite a number of user kena this problem...


Added on September 1, 2009, 5:11 pmBtw, the normal SD Card memory is really small... 1G only
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I dont trust kingston at all..

go Sandisk or Transcend.. i recommend getting two 4GB Transcend Class 6 SDHC, each at around rm50. dont gamble on just one 16GB..if its lost/broken, all your images will go away with it cry.gif

It is HIGHLY advisable to reformat memory card after transfer of large amounts of images to computer to prevent errors..

i reformat mine after each assignment/work/outing.. thumbup.gif
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does anyone here own both the sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 & tokina 11-16mm f/2.8? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 05:36 PM)
I dont trust kingston at all..

go Sandisk or Transcend.. i recommend getting two 4GB Transcend Class 6 SDHC, each at around rm50. dont gamble on just one 16GB..if its lost/broken, all your images will go away with it  cry.gif

It is HIGHLY advisable to reformat memory card after transfer of large amounts of images to computer to prevent errors..

i reformat mine after each assignment/work/outing.. thumbup.gif
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I always avoid removing cards that is why i bought 16gb hahhaha dun have to remove and put in...because sd looks fragile wei..but then personal preferences lar..smile.gif....
i always format my card after i loaded it into my pc too smile.gif

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The 11-16mm is really, really short. As much as you can love the f2.8, the range is sadly quite lacking.

Anyway, shared this in my other "home", now here it is and it is not taken with D90, just thought I'll share smile.gif

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 1 2009, 05:35 PM)
alpha_company:
AF-S 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G  DX ED
AF-S 12-24mm f/4.0G DX IF-ED
Price how much? compare to Tokina/Sigma?

Frankly, i like sigma because of HSM smile.gif hehehe...and I dont mind the f/2.8...it doesnt really matter to me..esp for UWA..

tom_k3nt: could it be ur kingston problem? im using Toshiba class 6 16gb and i have encounter anything like that thus far..
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From the reviews i've read/seen on the net, these two are recommended :

- Nikon AF-S 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF DX - around RM3000
- Tokina AT-X 116 Pro DX 11-16mm - around RM23xx-24xx

i dont really take the f2.8 and HSM into account because its an uwa..not tele...but IQ is most important
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 1 2009, 05:39 PM)
The 11-16mm is really, really short. As much as you can love the f2.8, the range is sadly quite lacking.

Anyway, shared this in my other "home", now here it is and it is not taken with D90, just thought I'll share smile.gif

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wow... zio... u r damn good in watever field u wan.. great pic... rclxms.gif
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my friend's sigma 10-20mm's grip rubber (the one that at zoom ring) already loosen up. its actually we can call it 'tertanggal' already.. but the lens still nothing to worry bout, still can focus perfectly without doubt, the image taken also got no compromise!
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alpha_company: tokina then...its 600 cheaper wink.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 05:42 PM)
From the reviews i've read/seen on the net, these two are recommended :

- Nikon AF-S 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF DX - around RM3000
- Tokina AT-X 116 Pro DX 11-16mm - around RM23xx-24xx

i dont really take the f2.8 and HSM into account because its an uwa..not tele...but IQ is most important
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this guy on youtube owns both the sigma 1020 and tokina 1116

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxiFxui0W-M
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 05:54 PM)
this guy on youtube owns both the sigma 1020 and tokina 1116

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxiFxui0W-M
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Wow ... no VR no internal motor. Build quality very solid. The AF/MF clutch oh so nice. Very little distortion, very sharp. Wah ... I think I like this one thumbup.gif . Sum more got nice distance scale drool.gif . Only thing is the filter size is 77mm. Die la if wan to get R72 cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif .
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yup...no worries about VR/AFS motor spoiling..no need vr on an uwa anyways..

but one thing i like is that the lens wont physically go in/out when zooming, which is very2 good. can last better in rain/moisture
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 06:01 PM)
yup...no worries about VR/AFS motor spoiling..no need vr on an uwa anyways..

but one thing i like is that the lens wont physically go in/out when zooming, which is very2 good. can last better in rain/moisture
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a question on SB600, is there a faster way to disable flash instead of turning the SB600 off?
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a question on SB600, is there a faster way to disable flash instead of turning the SB600 off?
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function button?
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Now im using the fn button on the cam to disable flash but is there a better way? Because i prefer setting the fn button to spot metering
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alpha_company : alright, I was dead wrong shocking.gif

though you are right, most people with D40/x/D60 go with the Sigma basically to auto-focus.

what camera do you use? Tokina 11-16 is actually very very good

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 1 2009, 06:57 PM)
Now im using the fn button on the cam to disable flash but is there a better way? Because i prefer setting the fn button to spot metering
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ur using D90? eh i forgot D90 got 1 function button only ke?
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d300 got 2 ka? yeah using the lower end d90 smile.gif
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QUOTE(a.ihsan @ Sep 1 2009, 07:10 PM)
alpha_company : alright, I was dead wrong  shocking.gif

though you are right, most people with D40/x/D60 go with the Sigma basically to auto-focus.

what camera do you use? Tokina 11-16 is actually very very good

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the definite plus for the sigma 1020 is:

- The widest u can get on a lens which is 10mm
- Has a speedy HSM (AFS equivalent)
- Can AF on D5000/D60/D40
- On D60/D40 bodies the Sigma's weight is more suitable because it is lighter

I use a D90...early ths year i owned a D60.
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For those looking for 1750...wait for the VC one:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090107tamron17mm50mm.asp
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a nice addon but not necessary at that focal range..

the thing that i would really like to see on the tamron 1750 or any other tamron is a high speed motor like Sigma's HSM, Nikon's SWM, Canon's USM or Sony's SSM. or if they want to cut costs, just take out the motor so that users with built in motor bodies like D90 can have faster af with their lenses.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 11:27 PM)
a nice addon but not necessary at that focal range..

the thing that i would really like to see on the tamron 1750 or any other tamron is a high speed motor like Sigma's HSM, Nikon's SWM, Canon's USM or Sony's SSM. or if they want to cut costs, just take out the motor so that users with built in motor bodies like D90 can have faster af with their lenses.
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Yea prefer without the motor.. Would be so much faster to AF.. But added VC also not bad.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 1 2009, 08:18 PM)
d300 got 2 ka? yeah using the lower end d90 smile.gif
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1 function button only.. the other one is dof preview button, but u can assigned it to other function also.

QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 11:27 PM)
a nice addon but not necessary at that focal range..

the thing that i would really like to see on the tamron 1750 or any other tamron is a high speed motor like Sigma's HSM, Nikon's SWM, Canon's USM or Sony's SSM. or if they want to cut costs, just take out the motor so that users with built in motor bodies like D90 can have faster af with their lenses.
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 2 2009, 01:00 AM)
Yea prefer without the motor.. Would be so much faster to AF.. But added VC also not bad..  smile.gif
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so, its like this? bodies that have built in motor will focus faster with lens without motor?

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the definite plus for the sigma 1020 is:

- The widest u can get on a lens which is 10mm
- Has a speedy HSM (AFS equivalent)
- Can AF on D5000/D60/D40
- On D60/D40 bodies the Sigma's weight is more suitable because it is lighter

I use a D90...early ths year i owned a D60.
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aah I've seen a lot of people using D90 with Sigma 10-20mm.
but the Tokina is very popular too.
you got a big decision to do mate rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 2 2009, 01:20 AM)
1 function button only.. the other one is dof preview button, but u can assigned it to other function also.
so, its like this? bodies that have built in motor will focus faster with lens without motor?
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It's not like that at all actually. Tamron DO NOT YET produce lenses with high-speed & silent autofocusing motors like HSM (Sigma), SWM (AF-S Nikon), SSM (Sony), USM (Canon).

There's basically two types of built in motor, Ring-type and Micro.
-- Ring-type is normally found in large-aperture and super telephoto lenses.
-- Micro is used in more compact lenses. Tamron lenses which have built in motor all use the micro type motor which is slower than the internal bdoy motor. It is also noisier.

Example:

Ring-type motor - Nikon AF-S 17-55mm f/2.8
Micro-type motor - Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 (A16NII - model number which indicate the built in motor version)

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few reasons why I bought the Sigma :-

- the feel of the focus ring, magnificent
- it will auto-focus on my D60
- the HSM is awesome, very fast
- 10mm? thats freaking wide!

few reasons why I would buy the Tokina :-

- cheaper (i think)
- at f2.8, works well in low-light situations
- lighter
- smaller filter size, less money

whichever you go with, you won't regret it  wink.gif
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Sigma distortion is pretty ugly.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 07:34 AM)
Sigma distortion is pretty ugly.
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Some people like the distortion. But I don't.
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Sep 2 2009, 07:37 AM)
Some people like the distortion. But I don't.
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yeah..me too.. afaik all ultra wide lenses have that prob but the distortion with the sigma is quite ugly at the edges at 10mm (at least imo) and the worst part is that the distortion is complex and cannot be fixed by software while other uwa's distortion is still correctable. can clearly see the faces of people getting stretched etc...just unnatural.. but if landscape only ok la..


how's my panning? the car is slow la..cant see the blurring effect in the background so much..unlike f1, a1 or other circuit races..hdr'ed it..hehe
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 07:34 AM)
Sigma distortion is pretty ugly.
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your advice on an uwa lens? or experience with any uwa lenses? care to share? need some info here.. biggrin.gif need one to use for weddings..to use for people photos basically..not just landscape only

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your advice on an uwa lens? or experience with any uwa lenses? care to share? need some info here..  biggrin.gif
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Been playing with Sigma 12-24 on FF, Nikkor 14-24 on FF, Tokina 11-16 on D90, Sigma 10-20 on 40D, Nikkor 10-24 on D60, Tamron 10-24 on D60, Tamron 11-18 on Canon and etc.

And my vote goes like this.
For FF
1. Nikkor 14-24
2. Sigma 12-24 (Freaking wide)

For DX
1. Tokina 11-16,
2. Nikkor 10-24
3. Sigma 10-20,
4. Tamron 10-24
5. Tamron 11-18.

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 08:19 AM)
Been playing with Sigma 12-24 on FF, Nikkor 14-24 on FF, Tokina 11-16 on D90, Sigma 10-20 on 40D, Nikkor 10-24 on D60, Tamron 10-24 on D60, Tamron 11-18 on Canon and etc.

And my vote goes like this.
For FF
1. Nikkor 14-24
2. Sigma 12-24 (Freaking wide)

For DX
1. Tokina,
2. Nikkor 10-24
3. Sigma 10-20,
4. Tamron 10-24
5. Tamron 11-18.
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1 being the best right? did u test any tokina 1224?

how wide can a lens do on FF? 12mm?

on a aps-c 10mm right?

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 08:24 AM)
1 being the best right? did u test any tokina 1224?

how wide can a lens do on FF? 12mm?

on a aps-c 10mm right?
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Nope. The only 2 famous UWA i didn't manage to play is Nikkor 12-24 f/4 and also Tokina 12-24 f/4.

12mm is quite well already. 18mm equivalent on FF smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 08:26 AM)
Nope. The only 2 famous UWA i didn't manage to play is Nikkor 12-24 f/4 and also Tokina 12-24 f/4.

12mm is quite well already. 18mm equivalent on FF smile.gif
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Does the Tokina 11-16 work with older film cameras such as the Nikon F90, F100? Anybody knows? This is because it doesnt have the aperture ring. So I know it wont work on my FM2. Also is this Tokina easy to find? I'm also reading about bad batches and focus problems on online discussions. Have you encountered this? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:13 AM)
Does the Tokina 11-16 work with older film cameras such as the Nikon F90, F100? Anybody knows? This is because it doesnt have the aperture ring. So I know it wont work on my FM2. Also is this Tokina easy to find? I'm also reading about bad batches and focus problems on online discussions. Have you encountered this?  hmm.gif
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I don't think it will works on film cameras as this is a DX lenses. (Correct me if I wrong).

Quite easy to find. Price tagged at RM 2,3xx lately.

I never face any focus problems. So far so good smile.gif

A photo taken by Tokina 11-16 smile.gif

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 08:12 AM)
how's my panning? the car is slow la..cant see the blurring effect in the background so much..unlike f1, a1 or other circuit races..hdr'ed it..hehe
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your advice on an uwa lens? or experience with any uwa lenses? care to share? need some info here..  biggrin.gif need one to use for weddings..to use for people photos basically..not just landscape only
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HDR is like PP la. No point to do PP if the original image isn't nice. Best to work on the composition, shutter speed to get the right blur effect. Once everything is nice, then only you decide to HDR or further PP. smile.gif

With regard to UWA specifically the Tokina 11-16 for weddings, I think the range is too limited and it is very very wide at the long end. I have no experience doing any paid photography, but I imagine with so much going on during a wedding, you don't want to be taking on and off lenses in order to capture the moment, unless of course you have two camera bodies with two different lenses attached. Even then, perhaps a normal wide will be more than enough. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 09:21 AM)
I don't think it will works on film cameras as this is a DX lenses. (Correct me if I wrong).

Quite easy to find. Price tagged at RM 2,3xx lately.

I never face any focus problems. So far so good smile.gif

A photo taken by Tokina 11-16 smile.gif

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Wow!! Nice pic. I know its a DX, but if you put it at the long end, you don't have any vignetting at all. So basically you can still use this lens like a prime on FF. And 16mm on FF is very very wide. thumbup.gif Good to have lens that can do double duty instead of being specific for DX only. Dats why I lub wub.gif the D series lenses. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:25 AM)
HDR is like PP la. No point to do PP if the original image isn't nice. Best to work on the composition, shutter speed to get the right blur effect. Once everything is nice, then only you decide to HDR or further PP.  smile.gif

With regard to UWA specifically the Tokina 11-16 for weddings, I think the range is too limited and it is very very wide at the long end. I have no experience doing any paid photography, but I imagine with so much going on during a wedding, you don't want to be taking on and off lenses in order to capture the moment, unless of course you have two camera bodies with two different lenses attached. Even then, perhaps a normal wide will be more than enough.  hmm.gif


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Wow!! Nice pic. I  know its a DX, but if you put it at the long end, you don't have any vignetting at all. So basically you can still use this lens like a prime on FF. And 16mm on FF is very very wide.  thumbup.gif  Good to have lens that can do double duty instead of being specific for DX only. Dats why I lub wub.gif  the D series lenses.  biggrin.gif
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Personally, I find 17mm quite tight for "yum seng" photo.

Was shooting my friend's wedding using 11-16 & 17-55. On 2 camera body tho tongue.gif

Yes you can use on film body but remember, the aperture will stick at f/2.8 tongue.gif

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This is by no means a great picture, but I think it shows off 2 things the Tokina 11-16 excels at, low light photography of massive objects.
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QUOTE(foogray @ Sep 2 2009, 09:33 AM)
This is by no means a great picture, but I think it shows off 2 things the Tokina 11-16 excels at, low light photography of massive objects.
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Straight RAW conversion, resized 50%.
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Arrrrggghhhhh!!! I curse alpha_company for posting about this Tokina. vmad.gif mad.gif Now after seeing foogray's pic at wide open 2.8, kenot tahan oledi ... now have to find out cost of 77mm R72. Calculate again how much longer to prolong the grass diet/hunger strike. cry.gif

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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 2 2009, 01:20 AM)
1 function button only.. the other one is dof preview button, but u can assigned it to other function also.
so, its like this? bodies that have built in motor will focus faster with lens without motor?
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Oh thanks, i shall try it out later.....afterall i dont use the DOF button at all...
QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 06:51 AM)
It's not like that at all actually. Tamron DO NOT YET produce lenses with high-speed & silent autofocusing motors like HSM (Sigma), SWM (AF-S Nikon), SSM (Sony), USM (Canon).

There's basically two types of built in motor, Ring-type and Micro.
-- Ring-type is normally found in large-aperture and super telephoto lenses.
-- Micro is used in more compact lenses. Tamron lenses which have built in motor all use the ring type motor which is slower than the internal bdoy motor. It is also noisier.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, tamron is using MICRO MOTOR smile.gif...
all AF-S lenses using Ring type?

QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 08:12 AM)
yeah..me too.. afaik all ultra wide lenses have that prob but the distortion with the sigma is quite ugly at the edges at 10mm (at least imo) and the worst part is that the distortion is complex and cannot be fixed by software while other uwa's distortion is still correctable. can clearly see the faces of people getting stretched etc...just unnatural.. but if landscape only ok la..
how's my panning? the car is slow la..cant see the blurring effect in the background so much..unlike f1, a1 or other circuit races..hdr'ed it..hehe
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your advice on an uwa lens? or experience with any uwa lenses? care to share? need some info here..  biggrin.gif need one to use for weddings..to use for people photos basically..not just landscape only
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I find HDR is only suitable for landscape and that panning shot can be much better smile.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 09:21 AM)
I don't think it will works on film cameras as this is a DX lenses. (Correct me if I wrong).

Quite easy to find. Price tagged at RM 2,3xx lately.
I never face any focus problems. So far so good smile.gif
A photo taken by Tokina 11-16 smile.gif
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Nicely done .......I like the tones..

QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:25 AM)
HDR is like PP la. No point to do PP if the original image isn't nice. Best to work on the composition, shutter speed to get the right blur effect. Once everything is nice, then only you decide to HDR or further PP.  smile.gif

With regard to UWA specifically the Tokina 11-16 for weddings, I think the range is too limited and it is very very wide at the long end. I have no experience doing any paid photography, but I imagine with so much going on during a wedding, you don't want to be taking on and off lenses in order to capture the moment, unless of course you have two camera bodies with two different lenses attached. Even then, perhaps a normal wide will be more than enough.
Agree!!!!Discard the image if its not nice...unless that is the only image I have and I want to keep that moment in my photo album smile.gif

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Wonder how will the Tokina 12-24 f4 perform when compare wif the 11-16 f2.8, coz been thinking lately for an UWA but because of the D60 I'm using, I gotta consider about the focusing issue as well.
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 2 2009, 11:32 AM)
Wonder how will the Tokina 12-24 f4 perform when compare wif the 11-16 f2.8, coz been thinking lately for an UWA but because of the D60 I'm using, I gotta consider about the focusing issue as well.
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11mm, 16mm is just too wide imo. There's not much difference, and it's hard to compose... using a UWA still requires composition. It doesn't mean that you just put it at 11mm all day long and snap whatever comes into the shot. You'll find yourself capturing unnecessary leaves, branches, ugly stuff as well.

If a lens goes up to 24mm it's more versatile.

Anyway, why would one shoot landscapes in f2.8? Why would one shoot group photos in f2.8?

Just a note when buying the third partys... beware of front/backfocusing issues.
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 2 2009, 12:42 PM)
11mm, 16mm is just too wide imo. There's not much difference, and it's hard to compose... using a UWA still requires composition. It doesn't mean that you just put it at 11mm all day long and snap whatever comes into the shot. You'll find yourself capturing unnecessary leaves, branches, ugly stuff as well.

If a lens goes up to 24mm it's more versatile.

Anyway, why would one shoot landscapes in f2.8? Why would one shoot group photos in f2.8?

Just a note when buying the third partys... beware of front/backfocusing issues.
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Above mentioned was so true and now i'm considering the Nikkor 10-24mm.
Or is there any others alternative choice?
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QUOTE(ariesto @ Sep 2 2009, 11:50 AM)
Above mentioned was so true and now i'm considering the Nikkor 10-24mm.
Or is there any others alternative choice?
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My original plan was for the 12-24mm f4 Tokky. It's cheaper compared to the 10-24mm... you save about 1k. Never buy the 12-24mm f4 Nikkor... overpriced at almost 4k. Alternatively 10-20 siggy but the new fixed aperture one doesn't take 77mm filter (82mm I think).

Just watch for the QC issues. I couldn't stand it... which was why I went all out instead.
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QUOTE(shinjun @ Sep 2 2009, 11:32 AM)
Wonder how will the Tokina 12-24 f4 perform when compare wif the 11-16 f2.8, coz been thinking lately for an UWA but because of the D60 I'm using, I gotta consider about the focusing issue as well.
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Yea. I'm going for the Tokina 12-24mm f/4 as well. Wonder how much is it now since it is quite an old model.
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EDITED: sorry for the mistake..i didnt notice. thanks for pointing it out Sp00kY

It's not like that at all actually. Tamron DO NOT YET produce lenses with high-speed & silent autofocusing motors like HSM (Sigma), SWM (AF-S Nikon), SSM (Sony), USM (Canon).

There's basically two types of built in motor, Ring-type and Micro.
-- Ring-type is normally found in large-aperture and super telephoto lenses.
-- Micro is used in more compact lenses. Tamron lenses which have built in motor all use the micro type motor which is slower than the internal bdoy motor. It is also noisier.

Example:

Ring-type motor - Nikon AF-S 17-55mm f/2.8
Micro-type motor - Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 (A16NII - model number which indicate the built in motor version)


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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:25 AM)
HDR is like PP la. No point to do PP if the original image isn't nice. Best to work on the composition, shutter speed to get the right blur effect. Once everything is nice, then only you decide to HDR or further PP.  smile.gif

With regard to UWA specifically the Tokina 11-16 for weddings, I think the range is too limited and it is very very wide at the long end. I have no experience doing any paid photography, but I imagine with so much going on during a wedding, you don't want to be taking on and off lenses in order to capture the moment, unless of course you have two camera bodies with two different lenses attached. Even then, perhaps a normal wide will be more than enough.  hmm.gif


Added on September 2, 2009, 9:30 am

Wow!! Nice pic. I  know its a DX, but if you put it at the long end, you don't have any vignetting at all. So basically you can still use this lens like a prime on FF. And 16mm on FF is very very wide.  thumbup.gif  Good to have lens that can do double duty instead of being specific for DX only. Dats why I lub wub.gif  the D series lenses.  biggrin.gif
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Yes the range of Tokina 1116 if compared to Sigma 1020 is limited but maybe that is why the IQ is better than the Sigma. A DX normal wide at 18mm is definitely not enough, ask any who does weddings or events.

Lets say you have a group photo and you dont have enough space to move backwards...what will u do to take the whole group in your shot? UWA.

To put a bride and groom in a short distance away from my camera so that they are clearly seen in the pic and at the same time have a wide scenery...this aint possible with even the tamron 1750. not wide enuff...

Yeah, I go shooting with a friend or two..this aint rambo where i can just shoot alone, i need backup..

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QUOTE(foogray @ Sep 2 2009, 09:33 AM)
This is by no means a great picture, but I think it shows off 2 things the Tokina 11-16 excels at, low light photography of massive objects.
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you know what is the purpose shoot in RAW? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:13 AM)
Does the Tokina 11-16 work with older film cameras such as the Nikon F90, F100? Anybody knows? This is because it doesnt have the aperture ring. So I know it wont work on my FM2. Also is this Tokina easy to find? I'm also reading about bad batches and focus problems on online discussions. Have you encountered this?  hmm.gif
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The aperture is one thing..another thing is that the tokina 1116 is for DX and not FF. 11mm is probably dont work on an FF..

The widest would probably be 12mm that is the FF lens, Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 HSM


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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 2 2009, 10:18 AM)

Correct me if i'm wrong, tamron is using MICRO MOTOR smile.gif...
all AF-S lenses using Ring type?

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A good question here. Canon publicly gives out info on their USM lenses (which is good), though most dont even read it anyways i think.

The bad thing here is that Canon labels USM on all their motorized lenses and it includes the slower & noisier micro motor type. Now the only way to find out whether a USM lens is micro or ring type is to check the details of the lens, which the average user wont really know about. But still they give out the details to the public.

Nikon on the other hand states that ALL of their AF-S lenses come with SWM motor. I wouldnt really believe this because why other big companies like Canon do not equip ALL their lenses with ring type USM? There are some disputes on ringtype and microtype on Nikon AFS lenses. Some say theres an indicator whether a Nikon AFS lens is ring or microtype. The indicator is whether they have fulltime manual override (M/A position on AF control switch) as opposed to just M and A. THIS IS YET TO BE PROVEN..so dont trust it fully..

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you know what is the purpose shoot in RAW?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(darthbaboon @ Sep 2 2009, 12:05 PM)
My original plan was for the 12-24mm f4 Tokky. It's cheaper compared to the 10-24mm... you save about 1k. Never buy the 12-24mm f4 Nikkor... overpriced at almost 4k. Alternatively 10-20 siggy but the new fixed aperture one doesn't take 77mm filter (82mm I think).

Just watch for the QC issues. I couldn't stand it... which was why I went all out instead.
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 01:53 PM)
What does all out mean? Does it mean 6K ringgit Nikon F2.8 nano nano lens?  shocking.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 01:55 PM)
Yup ... but I think it will be bloody expensive and probably hard to find as well. doh.gif
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77mm is easy to find. I think a few shops have it. The price is a killer. Its a bit too expensive for me to consider it.

Easily half the price I paid for a D70s.


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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 12:49 PM)
EDITED: sorry for the mistake..i didnt notice. thanks for pointing it out Sp00kY

It's not like that at all actually. Tamron DO NOT YET produce lenses with high-speed & silent autofocusing motors like HSM (Sigma), SWM (AF-S Nikon), SSM (Sony), USM (Canon).

There's basically two types of built in motor, Ring-type and Micro.
-- Ring-type is normally found in large-aperture and super telephoto lenses.
-- Micro is used in more compact lenses. Tamron lenses which have built in motor all use the micro type motor which is slower than the internal bdoy motor. It is also noisier.

Example:

Ring-type motor - Nikon AF-S 17-55mm f/2.8
Micro-type motor - Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 (A16NII - model number which indicate the built in motor version)


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Yes the range of Tokina 1116 if compared to Sigma 1020 is limited but maybe that is why the IQ is better than the Sigma. A DX normal wide at 18mm is definitely not enough, ask any who does weddings or events.

Lets say you have a group photo and you dont have enough space to move backwards...what will u do to take the whole group in your shot? UWA.

To put a bride and groom in a short distance away from my camera so that they are clearly seen in the pic and at the same time have a wide scenery...this aint possible with even the tamron 1750. not wide enuff...

Yeah, I go shooting with a friend or two..this aint rambo where i can just shoot alone, i need backup..
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I do weddings (sporadically) and yes, while I do take group shots with the 11-16mm, I find the group shots taken by 24-70mm way better. The distortion is just weird for a group pic.

and maybe your weddings are like super big la, because I haven't taken a group shot where the 24-70mm on a DX body can't take the group shot. So far, I can say that the 18mm and the 24mm on the DX body has been enough for group shots.

I even have to use 16mm and take a few steps closer for most group shot.

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77mm is easy to find. I think a few shops have it. The price is a killer. Its a bit too expensive for me to consider it.

Easily half the price I paid for a D70s.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 2 2009, 02:00 PM)
77mm is easy to find. I think a few shops have it. The price is a killer. Its a bit too expensive for me to consider it.

Easily half the price I paid for a D70s.


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I do weddings (sporadically) and yes, while I do take group shots with the 11-16mm, I find the group shots taken by 24-70mm way better. The distortion is just weird for a group pic.

and maybe your weddings are like super big la, because I haven't taken a group shot where the 24-70mm on a DX body can't take the group shot. So far, I can say that the 18mm and the 24mm on the DX body has been enough for group shots.

I even have to use 16mm and take a few steps closer for most group shot.
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my old sigma 1770 has weird distortion at 17mm too smile.gif....the guys at the edge looks like some monster haha..
i think 11mm is too wide for me to use in order to get a good composition, 16~18mm may be good enuf. MFD matters to me more than the focal length..
how nice if 50mm MFD is 30cm smile.gif hehe
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Easy to find?  blink.gif You mean like Maybank ATM machines?  shocking.gif Ohh ... not good ... not good.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I found it harder to find the 67mm tongue.gif

Shops tend to stock the larger ones. Oh wait, might have gotten it confused. Is 77mm the de facto filter size for Nikon pro grade lenses or is it 72mm?
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 2 2009, 02:44 PM)
I found it harder to find the 67mm tongue.gif

Shops tend to stock the larger ones. Oh wait, might have gotten it confused. Is 77mm the de facto filter size for Nikon pro grade lenses or is it 72mm?
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77mm is very common... and yes it's the size for the pro grade lenses.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 2 2009, 02:44 PM)
I found it harder to find the 67mm tongue.gif

Shops tend to stock the larger ones. Oh wait, might have gotten it confused. Is 77mm the de facto filter size for Nikon pro grade lenses or is it 72mm?
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Yes it is. El 77mm filter es el standard de facto por todos de la lensas pro del Nikon :)Ironically somebody just mentioned it to me the other day, without even me asking.

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Ahh yes, then the 77mm is common. Which mean the R72 is available. And so you can poison yourself silly with it. tongue.gif
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d300s is available already...thing i like most about it is the ok button in the directional pad like d90...
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d300s is available already...thing i like most about it is the ok button in the directional pad like d90...
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well...i dont know if there are significant changes in the low noise at high iso or other improvements in terms of image quality..

but i know a D300 imo isnt worth the extra bucks to upgrade from a D90. it is basically the same thing with different body. High iso performance and dynamic range is better on the D90 at dxo. The only advantage imo is the weather sealed body which is great (but heavy) for outdoor/wildlife photographers.

Glad that nikon fixes the ok button on the D300s though..as compared to the button on the D300. yup. 5.9k..minus d90 body 3k = 2.9k

if i got a d90 body i can get a few 2nd hand lenses..hehe.. maybe tokina 11-16 + a prime or zoom..or the older af-d 80-200 f/2.9 push pull.
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...thing i like most about it is the ok button in the directional pad like d90...
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.. thats what you like most about D300s ??

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I just bought Nikon D90, and now I'm intrested to buy Flash, but Im a bit confused to choose between sb600 or SB28, I have limited budget..
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 3 2009, 10:44 AM)
well...i dont know if there are significant changes in the low noise at high iso or other improvements in terms of image quality..

but i know a D300 imo isnt worth the extra bucks to upgrade from a D90. it is basically the same thing with different body. High iso performance and dynamic range is better on the D90 at dxo. The only advantage imo is the weather sealed body which is great (but heavy) for outdoor/wildlife photographers.

Glad that nikon fixes the ok button on the D300s though..as compared to the button on the D300. yup. 5.9k..minus d90 body 3k = 2.9k

if i got a d90 body i can get a few 2nd hand lenses..hehe.. maybe tokina 11-16 + a prime or zoom..or the older af-d 80-200 f/2.9 push pull.
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hmm..i nearly bought the d300 before landing a d90 to myself (i bought d90 before testing it hahahh).....

IMHO, the attractions in d300 is
1) 51 AF points with 15 crossed sensors! (tried the 51 points and its AWESOME!)
2) better grip and size (it can be tiring too)
3) faster machine (6fps IINM, larger buffer)
4) better metering

however, the price and video in D90 caught my attention. alto i hardly use my video (only less than 5 videos thus far) but hello, that's the thing now in dslr hahha...
if D300 is RM500 more exp i will grab it adi but its 1k+ sad.gif....

(ps: noob like me had some misfired AF with D90, thanks to 1 cross sensor heheh). canon 7d introduced a very brilliant AF mechanism with the ability to contorl the size of the AF points which i find it really useful...as well as zone AF....hope to see this in the upcoming nikon smile.gif....

(canon and sony launched a lot of stuffs lately oh~)


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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 12:15 PM)
Go with the SB600. The SB28 is really really old and no TTL for dSLRs.

On a trip to the zoo, say hello smile.gif

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awesome timing and framing..love it...

I was expecting an IR shot from u before the pic loads hehehe..
WB a bit off...slightly cold (bluish)...just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 01:15 PM)
Go with the SB600. The SB28 is really really old and no TTL for dSLRs.

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nice man!! tapi aku masih lagi menunggu infrared picture dari u.. best!

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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 3 2009, 12:19 PM)
hmm..i nearly bought the d300 before landing a d90 to myself (i bought d90 before testing it hahahh).....

IMHO, the attractions in d300 is
1) 51 AF points with 15 crossed sensors! (tried the 51 points and its AWESOME!)
2) better grip and size (it can be tiring too)
3) faster machine (6fps IINM, larger buffer)
4) better metering

however, the price and video in D90 caught my attention. alto i hardly use my video (only less than 5 videos thus far) but hello, that's the thing now in dslr hahha...
if D300 is RM500 more exp i will grab it adi but its 1k+ sad.gif....

(ps: noob like me had some misfired AF with D90, thanks to 1 cross sensor heheh). canon 7d introduced a very brilliant AF mechanism with the ability to contorl the size of the AF points which i find it really useful...as well as zone AF....hope to see this in the upcoming nikon smile.gif....

(canon and sony launched a lot of stuffs lately oh~)


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awesome timing and framing..love it...

I was expecting an IR shot from u before the pic loads hehehe..
WB a bit off...slightly cold (bluish)...just my 2 cents.
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Hrmm thats pretty weird. unless I set the wB wrongly from previous sunset shoot tongue.gif But remembering adjusting it properly. That purple patch is real though! it was purple! tongue.gif hahahahaha I think the lions at zoo negara has a stylist tongue.gif


QUOTE(mafiaboy34 @ Sep 3 2009, 01:09 PM)
nice man!! tapi aku masih lagi menunggu infrared picture dari u.. best!
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Lol thanks. I did post IR pics, a couple of pages back I think smile.gif
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Would have been perfect if that err bulubulu plant wasn't in the way tongue.gif
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I thought the 51 AF Point on d300 is one of the biggest advantage over d90?
Correct me if i'm wrong... noob mah.  notworthy.gif
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i was comparing the d300 to the d300s...not d90.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 01:59 PM)
Hrmm thats pretty weird. unless I set the wB wrongly from previous sunset shoot tongue.gif But remembering adjusting it properly. That purple patch is real though! it was purple! tongue.gif hahahahaha I think the lions at zoo negara has a stylist tongue.gif
Lol thanks. I did post IR pics, a couple of pages back I think smile.gif
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lol, i saw that purple thingy, din realized it until u said it smile.gif...
blue tint that i mentioned can be seen at the mouth/nose area.. just my noob comments smile.gif and personal preference...i saved a copy and did some editing smile.gif...nice pic..hope u dun mind me saving it:)

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QUOTE(qzplx @ Sep 3 2009, 12:06 PM)
Hi,

I just bought Nikon D90, and now I'm intrested to buy Flash, but Im a bit confused to choose between sb600 or SB28, I have limited budget..
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SB600... i dont think the SB28 supports iTTL.


Added on September 3, 2009, 2:44 pmlighter, u got the tokina 11-16..did u compare any other uwa lenses before buying?

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 02:18 PM)
Would have been perfect if that err bulubulu plant wasn't in the way tongue.gif
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Added on September 3, 2009, 2:44 pmlighter, u got the tokina 11-16..did u compare any other uwa lenses before buying?
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nope i never compare others just get comment from other tokina owner and read alot of reviews.. kenrockwell says buy tokina 11-16 so i bought this.. laugh.gif

this lens really really cool in terms of image quality.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 3 2009, 02:40 PM)
lol, i saw that purple thingy, din realized it until u said it smile.gif...
blue tint that i mentioned can be seen at the mouth/nose area.. just my noob comments smile.gif and personal preference...i saved a copy and did some editing smile.gif...nice pic..hope u dun mind me saving it:)
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No problem smile.gif Yeah I noticed the blue cast over it as well. Ahh well, some liked it, some don't haha I would have corrected it if i noticed it earlier tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 3 2009, 02:41 PM)
SB600... i dont think the SB28 supports iTTL.


Added on September 3, 2009, 2:44 pmlighter, u got the tokina 11-16..did u compare any other uwa lenses before buying?
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I owned an 11-16 Tokina months ago. Its great. Then i fell in love with Nikon 12-24 (and hated 11-16 end to end) and i live happily ever after tongue.gif

I thought that bluish purple tint on that yawning lion is natural.

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actually the tokina 11-16 f/2.8 i don't really use the f/2.8 always f/5.6 for my minimum. Even with f/2.8 it doesn't make much bokeh coz it's UWA lens. I just love the clarity that's why i bought this lens..
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 02:54 PM)
No problem smile.gif Yeah I noticed the blue cast over it as well. Ahh well, some liked it, some don't haha I would have corrected it if i noticed it earlier tongue.gif
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yupp i agree...its very subjective and boils down to personal preference smile.gif...WB is just a reference, as long as u like it..smile.gif

i prefer something like that:
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None the less, a good shot can be PP to anything, urs is a sharp and good one smile.gif I realized that you shot it at 300mm f/4...what lens were u using?
70-200??: drool.gif

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 3 2009, 03:00 PM)
I owned an 11-16 Tokina months ago. Its great. Then i fell in love with Nikon 12-24 (and hated 11-16 end to end) and i live happily ever after tongue.gif

I thought that bluish purple tint on that yawning lion is natural.
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 3 2009, 03:09 PM)
yupp i agree...its very subjective and boils down to personal preference smile.gif...WB is just a reference, as long as u like it..smile.gif

i prefer something like that:
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None the less, a good shot can be PP to anything, urs is a sharp and good one smile.gif I realized that you shot it at 300mm f/4...what lens were u using?
70-200??: drool.gif
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well..maybe as it says la.. a prime nikon 300mm f/4...wooohooo brows.gif

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 3 2009, 03:14 PM)
what's the advantage of the nikon 1224 other than the afs motor and longer focal length upto 24mm?
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Other than what you just said ? ...
Professional opinion : I have none.
Personal opinion : Its Nikon smile.gif

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 3 2009, 03:00 PM)
I owned an 11-16 Tokina months ago. Its great. Then i fell in love with Nikon 12-24 (and hated 11-16 end to end) and i live happily ever after tongue.gif

I thought that bluish purple tint on that yawning lion is natural.
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lol it was. err as natural as i shot it tongue.gif But I can't confirm if Mr Lion was blueish on that day tongue.gif I'll ask him the next time. Maybe it was the Monday blues.

QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 3 2009, 03:09 PM)
yupp i agree...its very subjective and boils down to personal preference smile.gif...WB is just a reference, as long as u like it..smile.gif

i prefer something like that:
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None the less, a good shot can be PP to anything, urs is a sharp and good one smile.gif I realized that you shot it at 300mm f/4...what lens were u using?
70-200??: drool.gif
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Haha exactly as you see it. Its the AF Nikkor 300mm f/4. Old piece of glass. I think YL now has a used AF-S version for sale. smile.gif
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zio : AFS 300mm for howmuch?
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zio : AFS 300mm for howmuch?
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Listed there at RM3980. I got the non-AFS version for RM2k.
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Other than what you just said ? ...
Professional opinion : I have none.
Personal opinion : Its Nikon smile.gif
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what is the different between 80-200 f2.8 and 70-200f2.8
huge gap between the price
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First thing is VR....
and if u are referring to the AF 80 - 200....the 70 200 comes with AFS...perf wise im not sure smile.gif
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extra 2k for VR

anyone using 80-200 f2.8??
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a random shot I took last weekend with AF-D 80-200 f/2.8 two touches. nothing spectacular. smile.gif

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i suppose is the coating, VR & built in lens AF-S motor that add up the extra 2k.
but image quality wise..i think not much different.

some of my 80-200mm shots.
My Flickr AFD 80-200mm (2 Touch)
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New D90 user and first time post photo. blush.gif

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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 3 2009, 07:34 PM)
what is the different between 80-200 f2.8 and 70-200f2.8
huge gap between the price
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AFD 80-200 f/2.8 MK 1 - Push pull - Do not have tripod collar
"Basic lens operation remains as an one-touch sliding zoom"
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AFD 80-200 f/2.8 MK 2 - Also push pull - Do not have tripod collar
"The AF Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED lens still retains a one-touch sliding zoom design "
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AFD 80-200 f/2.8 MK 3 - Two touch - Have tripod collar
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AFS AFS 80-200 f/2.8 Got a nice looking hood unlike the other 80-200s
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hmm...razer mouse...=P izit?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 4 2009, 05:10 PM)
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the moon

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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 4 2009, 05:28 PM)
hmm...razer mouse...=P izit?
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 4 2009, 08:07 PM)
is that limited edition?
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Yup that is a Razer DeathAdder "Guild Wars" Edition mouse. It's more sleek looking...

If you want an angry looking mouse, you should look at the Razer DeathAdder Command & Conquer 3 Kane's Wrath Edition...wowzers..

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this thread turns into mouse thread.haha
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QUOTE(edtan5 @ Sep 4 2009, 08:59 PM)
the moon

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cropped? doesnt looks sharp though notworthy.gif
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cropped? doesnt looks sharp though  notworthy.gif
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f/5.6 is not enough depth of field to capture the moon. I'd recommend using a minimum of f/7.1-f/11. My sharpest had been with f/13 using the 80-200mm af-d two touch.

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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 3 2009, 09:43 PM)
oh, wah!
extra 2k for VR

anyone using 80-200 f2.8??
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i would say, worth every single cents spent. Handling ,performance & built quality is top notch. U'll just love f2.8 for lowlight photography.

AF speed, well isn't that slow as i would have thought. Some of my pics Here
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at last i haf some time to practice... its about 1 month didnt touch my camera~! siggy shot... need some sifu to teach me
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diz one fresh from camera
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i plus the darken side coz my hand shakky la... forgot to bring my cheap tripod
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Just got mine yesterday from direct photo!! yayyy!!
D90 body + 4gb sd + nikon bag + tripod = Rm3090
nikkor 35mm = Rm770
excellent customer service = priceless tongue.gif

anyway... this is my 1st camera and handling a DSLR... last time i use SLR was 10 years ago and mainly on auto.
hope sifu sifu here can teach.. notworthy.gif
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waaaa nowaday D90 so cheap~! last time i got mine RM4200K
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not that much different la.. now still around rm4k for kit also..

ulet only bought BODY ONLY



Added on September 5, 2009, 9:39 am
QUOTE(ulet @ Sep 5 2009, 07:21 AM)
Just got mine yesterday from direct photo!! yayyy!!
D90 body + 4gb sd + nikon bag + tripod = Rm3090
nikkor 35mm = Rm770
excellent customer service = priceless tongue.gif

anyway... this is my 1st camera and handling a DSLR... last time i use SLR was 10 years ago and mainly on auto.
hope sifu sifu here can teach..  notworthy.gif
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congrats ulet, ..btw, y didnt u go for AFD 50mm f/1.8??? better bokeh on this lens and half the price of the AFS 35mm 1.8


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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 4 2009, 11:05 PM)
cropped? doesnt looks sharp though  notworthy.gif
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yup... it is not sharp to me too blush.gif
cropped at 100%

QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Sep 4 2009, 11:58 PM)
f/5.6 is not enough depth of field to capture the moon. I'd recommend using a minimum of f/7.1-f/11. My sharpest had been with f/13 using the 80-200mm af-d two touch.

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hi sifu! yeah it was not sharp sweat.gif yesterday night i tried again with f/11 the result is not much diff doh.gif
your moon so far is the best coz the detail on the moon surface it sharp notworthy.gif
duno why mine kinda disappoint me sad.gif
next mth moon cake fest try again when the moon is blardy big hmm.gif
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wow~thread version 4 ady...hehehe..long time didnt bump here...
Lately tried some macro...

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 5 2009, 08:35 AM)
congrats ulet, ..btw, y didnt u go for AFD 50mm f/1.8??? better bokeh on this lens and half the price of the AFS 35mm 1.8
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I want wide sad.gif

QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 5 2009, 11:38 AM)
maybe he like wider angle but not enough money to get 10mm??haha...
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yaloh.. not enuf money to buy wide angle and want a bit flexibility.
wait, i makan roti 6 months, can get wide angle tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ulet @ Sep 5 2009, 04:39 PM)
I want wide  sad.gif
yaloh.. not enuf money to buy wide angle and want a bit flexibility.
wait, i makan roti 6 months, can get wide angle  tongue.gif
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will find used 18-55mm.
coz i know a lot of ppl bought kit lens want to sell it off.
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Hi, every D90 users..
plan to upgrade my D60..
not sure whether D90 or D300....
Do u all think it's worthwhile to spend on the more expensive D300/D300s??
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if u prefer to snap sport sphot, go for d300/d300s, if not i would say stick with D90
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considering buying a D90, what is the cheapest price that can get in malaysia, body only or with kit lens, thank you very much
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kimurastanley: i think its not worth to jump to d90...better go for d300/s. Best don jump, APSC to APSC erm..weird lol. Invest in FF lens more..

Oxburg: yea enough...

onewong: Cheapest should be 3900 to 4000. If just the body, RM3200..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 5 2009, 05:42 PM)
kimurastanley: i think its not worth to jump to d90...better go for d300/s. Best don jump, APSC to APSC erm..weird lol. Invest in FF lens more..

Oxburg: yea enough...

onewong: Cheapest should be 3900 to 4000. If just the body, RM3200..
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 5 2009, 05:42 PM)
kimurastanley: i think its not worth to jump to d90...better go for d300/s. Best don jump, APSC to APSC erm..weird lol. Invest in FF lens more..

Oxburg: yea enough...

onewong: Cheapest should be 3900 to 4000. If just the body, RM3200..
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wah, look like not worth only pay for body alone... sad.gif take kits lense is more worth, i got a 28-80mm lens, a Nikon f65 kits lens, thinking might use back.
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FF body is so expensive.... lens also more expensive le
D700 cost like a bomb
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QUOTE(onewong @ Sep 5 2009, 05:39 PM)
considering buying a D90, what is the cheapest price that can get in malaysia, body only or with kit lens, thank you very much
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hmm...4k for kit and 3k for body only
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Sep 5 2009, 05:48 PM)
FF body is so expensive.... lens also more expensive le
D700 cost like a bomb
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if u know u r not upgrading to FF...then get the d300s with DX lens.. If u know u will upgrade to FF someday..why not invest in FF lens?
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QUOTE(ulet @ Sep 5 2009, 05:03 PM)
will find used 18-55mm.
coz  i know a lot of ppl bought kit lens want to sell it off.
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get the one with VR, my friend says that the VR is better than the older EDII.

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 5 2009, 06:51 PM)
get the one with VR, my friend says that the VR is better than the older EDII.
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i've sold mine unfortunately
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Sep 5 2009, 05:05 PM)
Hi, every D90 users..
plan to upgrade my D60..
not sure whether D90 or D300....
Do u all think it's worthwhile to spend on the more expensive D300/D300s??
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D300s and D300 has quite a lot of price diff already.. RM1.2K difference between them..
D300 body and D90 body - RM1.5K difference between them..

1. What do you wanna do with your camera?
2. Do you need the higher fps on D300/D300s?
3. Budget?
4. D90 weighs less while D300/D300s weighs more.
5. Prices of accessories like battery pack on D90 or D300
6. Did you weigh the pros and cons of a D90 VS D300?

I thought of this before and considered about this:

- I held an older D200 and it weighs me down when doing weddings. Heavy.
- Check at http://www.dxomark.com . You will find that D300 vs D90, the D90 wins in all four aspects : Sensor, Color Depth, Dynamic Range, Low-Light ISO.

Again it all boils down to budget and user preference.
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QUOTE(kimurastanley @ Sep 5 2009, 05:05 PM)
Hi, every D90 users..
plan to upgrade my D60..
not sure whether D90 or D300....
Do u all think it's worthwhile to spend on the more expensive D300/D300s??
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if u got the money, go for D300s.. + if u can handle the weight.. laugh.gif
i think if from D60, go for full frame la.. tongue.gif invest some more..

QUOTE(Oxburg @ Sep 5 2009, 05:37 PM)
BTW if wedding D90 sufficient ma?
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more than enough, but i do weddings too, with D300, never disappoint me.

its all depends on how u're comfortable with each camera.. which one give u more comfort, take that one la.. i love my D300 mainly cuz of its speed, weight, and its a rugged camera thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 5 2009, 08:22 PM)
if u got the money, go for D300s.. + if u can handle the weight..  laugh.gif
i think if from D60, go for full frame la..  tongue.gif invest some more..
more than enough, but i do weddings too, with D300, never disappoint me.

its all depends on how u're comfortable with each camera.. which one give u more comfort, take that one la.. i love my D300 mainly cuz of its speed, weight, and its a rugged camera  thumbup.gif
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yup..i do agree with jsc_tidus, go and hold both camera.. got budget buy D3 la easy...D3 = machine gun


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yup..i do agree with jsc_tidus, go and hold both camera.. got budget buy D3 la easy...D3 = machine gun
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keep in mind the weight ..thats all

lets say D90 + SB600 + MB-D80 grip compared to D300 + SB600 + batt grip = ??

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y say d3= machine gun??
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 5 2009, 11:03 PM)
y say d3= machine gun??
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Listen to the D3 11FPS for yourself and see what you think.
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awww mannnnn!!!!!!!!
i am seriously injured frm all the bullet shots.

but its only 11fps in DX mode.
FX (fullframe) mode i think is 9fps only.
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Sep 5 2009, 11:20 PM)
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Listen to the D3 11FPS for yourself and see what you think.
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We got a real on hand experience for the D3 at the KLPF. icon_idea.gif

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wao..the sound reli sound like machine gun(when with the cover)...now i know why u all call it as machine gun =)

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The Grand Mosque
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Camera: Nikon D90
Exposure: 0.001 sec (1/2000)
Aperture: f/8.0
Focal Length: 32 mm
ISO Speed: 200
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The Grand Mosque
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Camera:  Nikon D90
Exposure:  0.001 sec (1/2000)
Aperture:  f/8.0
Focal Length:  32 mm
ISO Speed:  200
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Did you apply some kinda filter on it? Cause the colors seem washed out.
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 6 2009, 01:34 AM)
wao..the sound reli sound like machine gun(when with the cover)...now i know why u all call it as machine gun =)
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that's why la..see... brows.gif

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that's crazy
11 fps can kill 1 roll of film in less than 4 seconds
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the 1st video really sounds like machine gun
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Dum dee dum ... browsing ... browsing ... browsing ... surfing ... surfing ... surfing ...

then saw this shocking.gif

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here!

Price USD 3K shakehead.gif cry.gif

and the pics ...



p/s - You can forget about 11 frame per second oledi. This is 30 frames per second. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Sep 6 2009, 02:15 AM)
Did you apply some kinda filter on it? Cause the colors seem washed out.
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few reasons for it:
1. my lens is covered with vapor coz of condensation doh.gif
2. it is 12pm direct sunlight killed much detail
3. my pp killed the colours
4. most important point is, i'm still noob. need more practice

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hi just checking... between these 2 lens.. which one would be "acceptable" for you guys ?

tamron 28-75mm f2.8
tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non motor)

guess it is hard to find a new unit for non motor of 17-50mm for my D90 but... is it still a good lens afterall ? i don have 2nd cam. or no intention to get a downgrade type, so non motor is still acceptable for my D90 right ?

i saw there are a few posts, people selling the non motor 17-50mm for more or less USD 300 for 2nd hand unit but requires postage from hk or US. Whereby locally here (msia) it costs around rm 1.4K for that
does it worth it a ?




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get the 1750 f2.8 without motor...it focuses faster and less motor noise. the 2875 is more for full frame...exp also.. the price i not so sure.. can refer to here www.shashinki.com

How to shoot without lens?? my shuter is locked when i dismount my lens.
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lolx...it sound like a mini machine gun to me...
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D3 11fps can fight with MP5 sub-machine gun 13rps(rounds-per-seconds)
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QUOTE(FirezZ @ Sep 6 2009, 05:30 PM)
hi just checking... between these 2 lens.. which one would be "acceptable" for you guys ?

tamron 28-75mm f2.8
tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non motor)

guess it is hard to find a new unit for non motor of 17-50mm for my D90 but... is it still a good lens afterall ? i don have 2nd cam. or no intention to get a downgrade type, so non motor is still acceptable for my D90 right ?

i saw there are a few posts, people selling the non motor 17-50mm for more or less USD 300 for 2nd hand unit but requires postage from hk or US. Whereby locally here (msia) it costs around rm 1.4K for that
does it worth it a ?
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28-75mm will not be wide enough if you only have this lens on your body. but if u intend to get a wide lens, 28-75mm is a great day2day lens smile.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 6 2009, 10:16 AM)
Dum dee dum ... browsing ... browsing ... browsing ... surfing ... surfing ... surfing ...

then saw this  shocking.gif

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p/s - You can forget about 11 frame per second oledi. This is 30 frames per second.   biggrin.gif
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that looks like a transformer lol

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herrooo. been abit since i last came here.

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that looks like a transformer lol
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Hey ... long time no see. Overall nice pics. thumbup.gif The last bird pic really amazing. shocking.gif thumbup.gif
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the bird shots are nice..did u apply some filter to it? i like the feel...
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why not??? make sure u put a spoiler if too many..
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QUOTE(edtan5 @ Sep 7 2009, 03:04 AM)
28-75mm will not be wide enough if you only have this lens on your body. but if u intend to get a wide lens, 28-75mm is a great day2day lens smile.gif
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guess will go for 17-50 mm ..
btw, i found out on A16II there are 2 types a ?
made in china and made in japan.. err in general .. any major diff between them ?
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QUOTE(FirezZ @ Sep 7 2009, 12:49 PM)
guess will go for 17-50 mm ..
btw, i found out on A16II there are 2 types a ?
made in china and made in japan.. err in general .. any major diff between them ?
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Tamron 17-50mm /f.28 VC is coming out. Heard the price will be around rm2k. drool.gif

http://www.tamron.com/lenses/prod/1750_vc_b005.asp

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lighter: how much did u pay for Tamron 18-270?

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 6 2009, 10:16 AM)
Dum dee dum ... browsing ... browsing ... browsing ... surfing ... surfing ... surfing ...

then saw this  shocking.gif

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here!

Price USD 3K  shakehead.gif  cry.gif

and the pics ...



p/s - You can forget about 11 frame per second oledi. This is 30 frames per second.   biggrin.gif
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1. The Tokina 1116 is re-done by putting on a metal body right?

2. The vids are captured using RED???


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QUOTE(FirezZ @ Sep 7 2009, 12:49 PM)
guess will go for 17-50 mm ..
btw, i found out on A16II there are 2 types a ?
made in china and made in japan.. err in general .. any major diff between them ?
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The A16II are the ones with built in motor right?

What I know is that the older version of tamron 1750 without motor has been manufactured in japan and china. the ones that are built in china has a higher rate of back/front focus problems. The ones that are made in Japan also have that problem. If you wanna but the ones without motor you MUST MUST check it on your own using a focus test chart and other normal shooting methods to make sure you have a good copy.

if you wanna get the ones that have built in motor, you are much less likely to encounter this front/back focus problems but it focuses slower.

for either of them, get the ones that are made in japan.


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lighter: how much did u pay for Tamron 18-270?
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i saw a guy selling that at rm1.9k i think, 1 month old iinm...new about rm2.5k i think..not sure..

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hey guys...some spamming.. notworthy.gif

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I attached is as thumbnails with the fullsize pics linked. So if u guys wanna see the full size, u can just click on the pics.

Rest of the pics can be found HERE

C&C are welcome

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lighter: how much did u pay for Tamron 18-270?
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hi alpha_company,

saw the one with vr will be out but... was brain washed to get the one without motor.. lolz
so in general, made in china unit have more error compared to those made in japan ?
err.... just hope there wont be any problem with the back/front focus problems.....

as i am asking a fren who is in hk to get one unit for me @.@

so cant really test it before buy ..
or should i stop him from buying it for me ?

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fisherman10: I like the concept but when enlarged it seems abit 'too much' (noisy too)
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@spooky..
small sensor la...http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/LZ2/LZ2A.HTM
it was the only camera at such size those days that comes with a 37-222mm (35mm eq) lens la.
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1. The Tokina 1116 is re-done by putting on a metal body right?

2. The vids are captured using RED???
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Some more nice pics. The price on the web page is USD 3495. shocking.gif Put metal body, change dis and dat, add 10,000 ringgit cry.gif cry.gif to the price. Hollywood prices. thumbup.gif

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http://www.ducloslenses.com/
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lolx...so expensive...
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I'm a heavy lightroom user, so I just shoot in raw and work on my composition. Once I think I can handle that instinctively, i'll try not to rely on LR and get it right without PPing
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 7 2009, 06:31 PM)
Some more nice pics. The price on the web page is USD 3495.  shocking.gif  Put metal body, change dis and dat, add 10,000 ringgit cry.gif  cry.gif to the price.  Hollywood prices. thumbup.gif

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http://www.ducloslenses.com/
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i wish it came with black & red.. ala' nikon drool.gif
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if using RAW, what softwere can read eh? i try PS CS4, cannot read the NEF files ler..


Added on September 7, 2009, 11:40 pmn yes, how to put spoiler thinggy? lol

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 7 2009, 11:30 PM)
if using RAW, what softwere can read eh? i try PS CS4, cannot read the NEF files ler..


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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 7 2009, 11:30 PM)
if using RAW, what softwere can read eh? i try PS CS4, cannot read the NEF files ler..


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You have to download Adobe Camera Raw. Google it.

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Sep 8 2009, 01:44 AM)
You have to download Adobe Camera Raw. Google it.

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i thought camera raw is free when u already got photoshop.. i dont have it either but when u update any adobe products, if u have photoshop, it'll give u an option to download the camera raw software..
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QUOTE(FirezZ @ Sep 7 2009, 05:08 PM)
hi alpha_company,

saw the one with vr will be out but... was brain washed to get the one without motor.. lolz
so in general, made in china unit have more error compared to those made in japan ?
err.... just hope there wont be any problem with the back/front focus problems.....

as i am asking a fren who is in hk to get one unit for me @.@

so cant really test it before buy ..
or should i stop him from buying it for me ?
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1. You're asking your friend to get you the one without motor?
2. Is it new or 2nd hand? Afaik, the one without motor is already discontinued and all 2nd hand here in malaysia.
3. You could tell him to get it for you but you have to take the risk...


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Some more nice pics. The price on the web page is USD 3495.  shocking.gif  Put metal body, change dis and dat, add 10,000 ringgit cry.gif  cry.gif to the price.  Hollywood prices. thumbup.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

http://www.ducloslenses.com/
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They custom make it for anybody who wants it? woww..

BTW, the vid in your previous post was captured using what?


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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 7 2009, 11:30 PM)
if using RAW, what softwere can read eh? i try PS CS4, cannot read the NEF files ler..


Added on September 7, 2009, 11:40 pmn yes, how to put spoiler thinggy? lol
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Need to download Adobe Camera Raw like calvin_gsc said..

@jsc_tidus - it is free, you can update straight from photoshop or download it from the website. the Adobe Camera Raw is updated so that it can read new types of raw formats from new cameras like d3x etc...

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Added on September 8, 2009, 4:09 am

They custom make it for anybody who wants it? woww..

BTW, the vid in your previous post was captured using what?
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As promised, here is some real world footage shot with a RED One and the Duclos Lenses 11-16mm. It wasn't the only lens used, RPPs were there too. But you can pick out the wide shots. Pretty much anything wide was the DL 11-16.

Above is post by Matthew Duclos taken from the redforum link I posted earlier. I think "RPPs" means Red Pro Primes (lensses). Check out the prices here. shocking.gif

Cheapest prime lens is USD 5950 = 21000 ringgit. blink.gif shakehead.gif cry.gif
Cheapest zoom lens is ISD 8500 = 30000 ringgit. shocking.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif cry.gif

I think I need to see eye doctor oledi. My eyes pop out so many times seeing the prices of all these stuff. shocking.gif

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 8 2009, 08:03 AM)
Above is post by Matthew Duclos taken from the redforum link I posted earlier. I think "RPPs" means Red Pro Primes (lensses). Check out the prices here.  shocking.gif

Cheapest prime lens is USD 5950 = 21000 ringgit.   blink.gif  shakehead.gif  cry.gif
Cheapest zoom lens is ISD 8500 = 30000 ringgit.   shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  doh.gif  cry.gif

I think I need to see eye doctor oledi. My eyes pop out so many times seeing the prices of all these stuff.  shocking.gif
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with that price, i rather go for D3X doh.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 8 2009, 08:03 AM)
Above is post by Matthew Duclos taken from the redforum link I posted earlier. I think "RPPs" means Red Pro Primes (lensses). Check out the prices here.  shocking.gif

Cheapest prime lens is USD 5950 = 21000 ringgit.   blink.gif  shakehead.gif  cry.gif
Cheapest zoom lens is ISD 8500 = 30000 ringgit.   shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  doh.gif  cry.gif

I think I need to see eye doctor oledi. My eyes pop out so many times seeing the prices of all these stuff.  shocking.gif
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yeah.. i saw those prices before.. man the RED is some piece of equipment.. if im not mistaken, it can also fit NIKON mount lenses on.

just look at the design of it..it's like those ancient transformers in transformers 2 movie. red can also take much much better hd vids and even better still pics than dslrs..at least that is what they claim..


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with that price, i rather go for D3X  doh.gif
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well..i would rather go for the RED as it is good in both video and still pics..only thing is that it's bigger.

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hi, i am asking a fren to check there..
so risk, he might be getting a 2nd hand unit coz i told him it is ok for new / used unit....
adv to check on the non motor.. err it has been disconti.

risk hmmm... still waitng for a call from him on the updates... else.. no deal there tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 8 2009, 02:36 PM)
yeah.. i saw those prices before.. man the RED is some piece of equipment.. if im not mistaken, it can also fit NIKON mount lenses on.

just look at the design of it..it's like those ancient transformers in transformers 2 movie. red can also take much much better hd vids and even better still pics than dslrs..at least that is what they claim..


Added on September 8, 2009, 2:37 pm

well..i would rather go for the RED as it is good in both video and still pics..only thing is that it's bigger.
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they even have their own branded CF cards.. notworthy.gif


Added on September 8, 2009, 6:43 pmit looks like Sony is going to compete with RED.. sweat.gif

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IFA, Berlin, 4-9 sept 2009: the A850 replaces the A900 (you already know that part)

(BTW: don't miss Leica announcing the M9 on the last day of the IFA on 9/9/09)

CES, Las Vegas, January 7-10 2010:
Sony announces the A950. Basically it is a A900 with a 32 Mpix sensor. No video mode. High iso.

So this means that Sony keeps 2 FF DSLRs in offer, one at 1500$ street price (MSRP 2000$) and one at 2000$ (MSRP 2500$).

Expect a 600mm lens to be announced between january and april.

(Side note: this leaves Nikon and Canon to announce a D4 and a 1D mark 4 respectively around march).

From this point onwards, Sony communication will be focalized on the soccer World Cup 2010 (in june). Sony was accepted to be one of the only 6 FIFA partners already in 2007, time to get the investment back...

NAB, Las Vegas, april 10-15.
Sony announces the A1000. This will be a revolutionary camera, basically a DSLR video camera hybrid. Sony wants to use NAB, because this camera is mainly a video camera. Sony feels that RED is eating too much market share from their Cinealta line, so they need a cheaper offer along their more traditional camcorders. Expect the A1000 to look a bit like the RED, costs roughly the same and be able to take 32 MPix pictures while filming in HDV at the same time. Expect a 28-300 lens with SSM (typical video range and SSM is silent, which is important for video).
Around the same time, the A2x and A3x line is replaced by smaller, cheaper crop cameras with video. Expect a very cheap A150 without built-in AF motor.



Marketingwise, Sony communication will be axed on the FIFA:
-a pro SLR with the A950 (*)
-a new type of camera with the A1000, perfectly positioned to celebrate the convergence between photo and video on the fields
-Sony video pro stands will assist the Sony soccer photographs and videographs
-all this so that the typical soccer fan wants to buy a camera of the same brand than the pros: the new A2x-A3x line.

(* a photograph which uses a photo camera incapable of video pays less FIFA royalties to be on the spot, that counts on a budget)


(Summer: A850 ceases production silently. Camera stays in program until stocks are cleared, just like the A900.)

Fotokina, Köln, september 8-10:
Sony announces the A5x, to replace the present "5" line. At the same time, a new FF DSLR is announced, the A820. Basically, a A850 with a 32 Mpix sensor and a smaller, plastic body. SD card replaces the CF slot. Video mode, built-in flash, simplified viewfinder. 1500$ MSRP, street price around 1000$ for christmas.

The A950 replacement is to be announced at CES 2011.


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Hey guys i need some opinion on which flash to get. It'll be my first external flash. Since SB800 has been discontinued, there's only two choices left, SB600 and SB900.

I've been doing some research and found that some people recommend getting two SB600 over one SB900, some recommended the SB800 over SB900(when SB800 was still in production), some say get the most powerful one. rclxub.gif

I'll be using the flash for normal usage like events and portraits, stuff like that. I also like the multi angle rotating flash head of the SB900. Also, if i would wanna play with Nikon CLS, would my built in flash be sufficient to be the master?

Also read complains about the SB900 overheating very easily. Any flash owners here that can help me out? unsure.gif

Thanks biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 8 2009, 09:43 PM)
Hey guys i need some opinion on which flash to get. It'll be my first external flash. Since SB800 has been discontinued, there's only two choices left, SB600 and SB900.

I've been doing some research and found that some people recommend getting two SB600 over one SB900, some recommended the SB800 over SB900(when SB800 was still in production), some say get the most powerful one.  rclxub.gif

I'll be using the flash for normal usage like events and portraits, stuff like that. I also like the multi angle rotating flash head of the SB900. Also, if i would wanna play with Nikon CLS, would my built in flash be sufficient to be the master?

Also read complains about the SB900 overheating very easily. Any flash owners here that can help me out?  unsure.gif

Thanks  biggrin.gif
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If CLS is gonna be your main usage. Then by all means get 2 SB-600. You can get more creative with more flashes. The built in flash is sufficient to be the master for 2 flashes.
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 8 2009, 12:30 AM)
if using RAW, what softwere can read eh? i try PS CS4, cannot read the NEF files ler..


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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 8 2009, 09:43 PM)
Hey guys i need some opinion on which flash to get. It'll be my first external flash. Since SB800 has been discontinued, there's only two choices left, SB600 and SB900.

I've been doing some research and found that some people recommend getting two SB600 over one SB900, some recommended the SB800 over SB900(when SB800 was still in production), some say get the most powerful one.  rclxub.gif

I'll be using the flash for normal usage like events and portraits, stuff like that. I also like the multi angle rotating flash head of the SB900. Also, if i would wanna play with Nikon CLS, would my built in flash be sufficient to be the master?

Also read complains about the SB900 overheating very easily. Any flash owners here that can help me out?  unsure.gif

Thanks  biggrin.gif
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Best option is for you buy ONLY ONE SB-600, then poison your friend to buy the other SB-600 drool.gif . Invite your friend over, so you can borrow his SB-600 biggrin.gif AND you use him as your machai to hold the off camera flashes. thumbup.gif ... and if your friend got pretty little sister ... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 8 2009, 09:43 PM)
Hey guys i need some opinion on which flash to get. It'll be my first external flash. Since SB800 has been discontinued, there's only two choices left, SB600 and SB900.

I've been doing some research and found that some people recommend getting two SB600 over one SB900, some recommended the SB800 over SB900(when SB800 was still in production), some say get the most powerful one.  rclxub.gif

I'll be using the flash for normal usage like events and portraits, stuff like that. I also like the multi angle rotating flash head of the SB900. Also, if i would wanna play with Nikon CLS, would my built in flash be sufficient to be the master?

Also read complains about the SB900 overheating very easily. Any flash owners here that can help me out?  unsure.gif

Thanks  biggrin.gif
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im SB900 user... using the TTL function, yes it will easily too heat.... too fast to get hot. from what i see, i recommend SB600 for normal usage and SB900 for scenery function. but if u use manual, it become less heat. since this is my first external flash, im not reli know for the function. hope sifu can explain more...


any1 want to organize tt to teach me how to use flash? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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i've read around and they say that after the new updated firmware for SB900, it doesnt overheat that much in TTL already. but i cant remember specifically what version and you need a d3/d700 to update the firmware.
maybe nikon SC can do that for free? anyone can confirm this?
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Sep 8 2009, 10:47 PM)
i've read around and they say that after the new updated firmware for SB900, it doesnt overheat that much in TTL already. but i cant remember specifically what version and you need a d3/d700 to update the firmware.
maybe nikon SC can do that for free? anyone can confirm this?
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D300 also can update the SB900 firmware nod.gif

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What has been introduced in 5.02 FW :

While shooting uninterrupted with your SB900 flash set in i-TTL mode; images received right before firing ceased were prone to be overexposed. This issue has been corrected and also metering precision and # of times the flash fires have been increased as a result

With the Speedlight SB-900 set in TTL auto flash mode and used with a camera supporting the Creative Lighting System, the flash mode will auto change to A mode according to camera’s communication status. Previously this flash mode was maintened but has been modified so that TTL-auto-flash mode is restored once the SB 900 again automatically recognized a CLS capable camera.


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Havent really tried CLS out yet but i think it's quite cool. Although i might say that i wont be doing a lot of photoshoot that i'll be placing flashguns here and there. More of a walk and snap person if u know what i mean.

If i use CLS with my built in flash as commander, will the flash actually goes off together with the remote flash? So there will be two source of flash light?

oh ya that's what i heard also about overheating while using TTL mode. Is there a flaw in the way it choose its flash power in TTL mode? For newbies like me, prefer to use auto TTL. Does the new SB900 firmware solve the problem? (edit: just saw the last two posts. anyone can confirm less overheat for SB900 after firmware upgrade?)

Is the SB600 power sufficient for indoor event coverage and maybe day time fill flash? Because this would be a one off buy, not planning to sell off this unit in the future. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 8 2009, 10:56 PM)
Havent really tried CLS out yet but i think it's quite cool. Although i might say that i wont be doing a lot of photoshoot that i'll be placing flashguns here and there. More of a walk and snap person if u know what i mean.

If i use CLS with my built in flash as commander, will the flash actually goes off together with the remote flash? So there will be two source of flash light?

oh ya that's what i heard also about overheating while using TTL mode. Is there a flaw in the way it choose its flash power in TTL mode? For newbies like me, prefer to use auto TTL. Does the new SB900 firmware solve the problem?

Is the SB600 power sufficient for indoor event coverage and maybe day time fill flash? Because this would be a one off buy, not planning to sell off this unit in the future.  tongue.gif
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r u doing weddings? well if u do, if the wedding place is to be held on a hall (+very high roof one), u might want to add some extra exposure to the flash.. not sure with this, since i didnt have SB-600..

i use SB-900, works like a charm even in school hall.. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 8 2009, 10:56 PM)
Havent really tried CLS out yet but i think it's quite cool. Although i might say that i wont be doing a lot of photoshoot that i'll be placing flashguns here and there. More of a walk and snap person if u know what i mean.

If i use CLS with my built in flash as commander, will the flash actually goes off together with the remote flash? So there will be two source of flash light?

oh ya that's what i heard also about overheating while using TTL mode. Is there a flaw in the way it choose its flash power in TTL mode? For newbies like me, prefer to use auto TTL. Does the new SB900 firmware solve the problem? (edit: just saw the last two posts. anyone can confirm less overheat for SB900 after firmware upgrade?)

Is the SB600 power sufficient for indoor event coverage and maybe day time fill flash? Because this would be a one off buy, not planning to sell off this unit in the future.  tongue.gif
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never experienced any overheating yet with my SB-900.. even used it from 9.00am till 5.00pm, with cheap cheap GP rechargeable AAs.. laugh.gif

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im using energizer rechargeable battery and had heat issue~! is there anywhere we can update the firmware??? i want to update
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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 8 2009, 10:56 PM)
If i use CLS with my built in flash as commander, will the flash actually goes off together with the remote flash? So there will be two source of flash light?
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You can cancel the built in flash so that it wont fire and acts only as commander.

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just change the built in flash to "--"
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im using energizer rechargeable battery and had heat issue~! is there anywhere we can update the firmware??? i want to update
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HERE you go
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yup..i saw someone showing on their d300 before.
just change the built in flash to "--"
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the flash still fires.. if not.. how to trigger? it just the flash no so hard.. but.. if u close up, still can get some light from it..

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infrared?
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infrared?
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why dont u go and try.. and see what i meant...
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What has been introduced in 5.02 FW :

While shooting uninterrupted with your SB900 flash set in i-TTL mode; images received right before firing ceased were prone to be overexposed. This issue has been corrected and also metering precision and # of times the flash fires have been increased as a result

How to upgrade firmware:

To upgrade your Speedlight SB-900 you must be connected with a compatible camera (D90, D700, D300, D30)
Quoted frm the website provided by jsc_tidus
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Sep 8 2009, 11:10 PM)
the flash still fires.. if not.. how to trigger? it just the flash no so hard.. but.. if u close up, still can get some light from it..
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Hihihi yes of course it ACTUALLY fires but not to coincide for exposure alongside with the external one. Its just that "by term", the built-in flash "doesnt fire".
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edit: i saw the previous post already. i get it now. thanks everyone. rclxms.gif

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the color same as ur display la.. hahahah
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sushi...? how bout 'human sushi'?  tongue.gif
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lol...you wanna be my "sushi plate"? tongue.gif hehe...yeap..its sushi...Jogoya to be exact...hehe... =)


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the color same as ur display la.. hahahah
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lol...yea...its same in a way...lol... smile.gif

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Sep 8 2009, 11:23 PM)
the color same as ur display la.. hahahah
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by 2nd time looking at it, u're right dude laugh.gif

QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Sep 8 2009, 11:24 PM)
lol...you wanna be my "sushi plate"? tongue.gif hehe...yeap..its sushi...Jogoya to be exact...hehe... =)
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i mean 'girls sushi' lah sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 8 2009, 11:07 PM)
HERE you go
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thx bro... now charging my battery to update~! then can try hahahah


Added on September 8, 2009, 11:37 pmaiyoh my SB900 already 5.02... is it ok to update??? can it settle the overheat issue?

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 8 2009, 11:34 PM)
thx bro... now charging my battery to update~! then can try hahahah


Added on September 8, 2009, 11:37 pmaiyoh my SB900 already 5.02... is it ok to update??? can it settle the overheat issue?
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my sb-900 too already on 5.02 firmware, but yet no overheating experienced.. how long u use it till got the overheating problem?
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actually when u say overheat, must see how u use lor. maybe its been flashing at quite high power or maybe u've been using it for a long time.

or strobbing?? hahaha
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Kalau ambil gambar secara berterusan atau pun asyik nak burst aje memanglah benda tu overheat tongue.gif Apatah lagi kalau flash tu asyik nak terpaksa hambur 1/1 power. Kalau dia meletop pun memang patut pun.
Kalau ambil gambar satu persatu dengan selang masa yang 'ideal', tidaklah flash tu nak overheat. Malah kalau 1/1 dengan selang masa 15 saat antara shot pun jarang nak overheat.

Strobing adalah 'konsep', bukan 'aplikasi'. Which means, strobing has got nothing to do with overheating. Its how one strobes that opens up possibilities of oveheatings.

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 8 2009, 11:55 PM)
Kalau ambil gambar secara berterusan atau pun asyik nak burst aje memanglah benda tu overheat tongue.gif Apatah lagi kalau flash tu asyik nak terpaksa hambur 1/1 power. Kalau dia meletop pun memang patut pun.
Kalau ambil gambar satu persatu dengan selang masa yang 'ideal', tidaklah flash tu nak overheat. Malah kalau 1/1 dengan selang masa 15 saat antara shot pun jarang nak overheat.

Strobing adalah 'konsep', bukan 'aplikasi'. Which means, strobing has got nothing to do with overheating. Its how one strobes that opens up possibilities of oveheatings.
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laugh.gif the nanny of the darkside has spoken..

overheat ni ada kaitan dgn jenis AA batteries yg dipakai gak ke?
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 8 2009, 11:40 PM)
my sb-900 too already on 5.02 firmware, but yet no overheating experienced.. how long u use it till got the overheating problem?
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ermmm like wedding... less then an hour already heat up.... now jz upgrade the firmware. direct shot until 205 pict, then it get hot enuff... i thnk its getting better laa


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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 8 2009, 11:55 PM)
Kalau ambil gambar secara berterusan atau pun asyik nak burst aje memanglah benda tu overheat tongue.gif Apatah lagi kalau flash tu asyik nak terpaksa hambur 1/1 power. Kalau dia meletop pun memang patut pun.
Kalau ambil gambar satu persatu dengan selang masa yang 'ideal', tidaklah flash tu nak overheat. Malah kalau 1/1 dengan selang masa 15 saat antara shot pun jarang nak overheat.

Strobing adalah 'konsep', bukan 'aplikasi'. Which means, strobing has got nothing to do with overheating. Its how one strobes that opens up possibilities of oveheatings.
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noob user here... aku amek pkai TTL, kamera pkai Shutter priority, ISO200, EV 0, auto WB.... kurang sejam amek gambar wedding (not multi burst pict). average, 4 or 5 pict every mins i presume...


Added on September 9, 2009, 12:03 am
QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 8 2009, 11:55 PM)
Kalau ambil gambar secara berterusan atau pun asyik nak burst aje memanglah benda tu overheat tongue.gif Apatah lagi kalau flash tu asyik nak terpaksa hambur 1/1 power. Kalau dia meletop pun memang patut pun.
Kalau ambil gambar satu persatu dengan selang masa yang 'ideal', tidaklah flash tu nak overheat. Malah kalau 1/1 dengan selang masa 15 saat antara shot pun jarang nak overheat.

Strobing adalah 'konsep', bukan 'aplikasi'. Which means, strobing has got nothing to do with overheating. Its how one strobes that opens up possibilities of oveheatings.
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noob user here... aku amek pkai TTL, kamera pkai Shutter priority, ISO200, EV 0, auto WB.... kurang sejam amek gambar wedding (not multi burst pict). average, 4 or 5 pict every mins i presume...


Added on September 9, 2009, 12:03 am
QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 8 2009, 11:55 PM)
Kalau ambil gambar secara berterusan atau pun asyik nak burst aje memanglah benda tu overheat tongue.gif Apatah lagi kalau flash tu asyik nak terpaksa hambur 1/1 power. Kalau dia meletop pun memang patut pun.
Kalau ambil gambar satu persatu dengan selang masa yang 'ideal', tidaklah flash tu nak overheat. Malah kalau 1/1 dengan selang masa 15 saat antara shot pun jarang nak overheat.

Strobing adalah 'konsep', bukan 'aplikasi'. Which means, strobing has got nothing to do with overheating. Its how one strobes that opens up possibilities of oveheatings.
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noob user here... aku amek pkai TTL, kamera pkai Shutter priority, ISO200, EV 0, auto WB.... kurang sejam amek gambar wedding (not multi burst pict). average, 4 or 5 pict every mins i presume...

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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 9 2009, 12:00 AM)
ermmm like wedding... less then an hour already heat up.... now jz upgrade the firmware. direct shot until 205 pict, then it get hot enuff... i thnk its getting better laa
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wah direct shooting? u mean 1 hour no stop even several minutess? shakehead.gif i do wedding too, but my flash does got its own rest time too.. laugh.gif

edit: owhh.. like that ha? humm kinda weird.. same here, using TTL too..

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laugh.gif the nanny of the darkside has spoken..

overheat ni ada kaitan dgn jenis AA batteries yg dipakai gak ke?
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Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...

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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 9 2009, 12:03 AM)
wah direct shooting? u mean 1 hour no stop even several minutess?  shakehead.gif i do wedding too, but my flash does got its own rest time too..  laugh.gif
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average 4 or 5 pict every mins??? stop la dlm 5 min borak2, isap rokok skit.... but still gettin hot too easy...

last time i did some shoot with my frenz. he using SB600, same shoot taken with me even discuss a bit. still my flash getting hot... i thnk i have some gap for every session and discussing with him... for 1 session will last about 30mins longest...


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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 12:06 AM)
Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...
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ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...


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Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...
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ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...


Added on September 9, 2009, 12:08 am
QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 12:06 AM)
Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...
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ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...


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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 12:06 AM)
Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...
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ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...


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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 12:06 AM)
Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...
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ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...


Added on September 9, 2009, 12:11 am
ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 8 2009, 11:55 PM)
Kalau ambil gambar secara berterusan atau pun asyik nak burst aje memanglah benda tu overheat tongue.gif Apatah lagi kalau flash tu asyik nak terpaksa hambur 1/1 power. Kalau dia meletop pun memang patut pun.
Kalau ambil gambar satu persatu dengan selang masa yang 'ideal', tidaklah flash tu nak overheat. Malah kalau 1/1 dengan selang masa 15 saat antara shot pun jarang nak overheat.

Strobing adalah 'konsep', bukan 'aplikasi'. Which means, strobing has got nothing to do with overheating. Its how one strobes that opens up possibilities of oveheatings.
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Sorry....sorry... i din meant the strobist style.
what i meant was the stroboscopic thing. the one where u set the mode to RPT and the flash fires a few times in a single exposure for some special effects like for sports or smth like dat.

this one sure menyebabkan sb900 terbakar lorr

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 12:06 AM)
Haha nanny ye. Chaaittt tongue.gif Overheating adalah keadaan dimana mekanisme pengurusan haba tidak dapat menampung pelepasan haba dengan sempurna akibat 'build-up' haba selepas penggunaan oleh mekanisma pancaran dan bulb. Jadi, secara konsepnya, overheat tak ada kena mengena dengan jenis AA yang digunakan.

Phewww ...
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so we can call 'heat-buffer' la? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 9 2009, 12:06 AM)
ade org ckp batteri kuat sgt nnt bulb cpt panas... btol ke? ade gk terpk nk tuka batteri...
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Sebenarnya ada jenis jenis bateri yang DITEGAH dari digunakan sebab material bateri tu yang cepat bagi panas. Tapi panas tu bukanlah pada mekanisma pancaran/bulb, tapi pada body atau kompartmen bateri. Dan lagi, ada jenis bateri tu ditegah dari digunakan sebab kapasiti dia. Tak semestinya lagi tinggi kuasa bateri tu, lagi bess ianya digunakan. Ini ada kena mengena dengan circuit yang mana ceritanya aaaaamat lah panjang dan agak mentingtongkan.

Selalnya dalam pengurusan haba, yang ideal nya ialah "jangan pakai buffer, kasik release terus itu haba". So in the case of flashes, theres no heat buffer. Heat-gate aje yang ada.
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ada orang kasi mod sb900 letak heatsink kah?
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what do u mean heat buffer and heat gate??? already tingtong hahaha

now using energizer 1750 mAh... is it ok?
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Sep 9 2009, 12:21 AM)
ada orang kasi mod sb900 letak heatsink kah?
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Hahaha adaaaaa... Gigabyte/Asus ada buat hydro-based heatsink 16valve untuk SB900!! Siap dengan liquid nitrogen tu!




















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what do u mean heat buffer and heat gate??? already tingtong hahaha

now using energizer 1750 mAh... is it ok?
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Heat buffer tu tempat pengumpulan haba untuk diuruskan keluar. Heat gate tu konsep yg digunakan untuk bagi warning kat system flash tu bahawa jumlah haba adalah X-j or Y-kiloJ dan supaya flash to buat keputusan untuk off kan diri dia atau tak.

Ok je Energizer tu. Tapi Energizer body dia cepat jugak panas (bak kata sorang lagi tranny kawan saya kat KL ari tu! tak tau la ye ke tak.)


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takleyh ke pasang kipas dkt flash~? cpt skit sejok~! :lol:lol

aku rs ye kot... sbb energizer ble nk kuarkan batteri pas gune, terase panas skit laa
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 9 2009, 12:34 AM)
takleyh ke pasang kipas dkt flash~? cpt skit sejok~! :lol:lol

aku rs ye kot... sbb energizer ble nk kuarkan batteri pas gune, terase panas skit laa
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bagus idea ni.. kang kipas tu boleh tala pada photographer.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 9 2009, 12:34 AM)
takleyh ke pasang kipas dkt flash~? cpt skit sejok~! :lol:lol
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Hahaha kalau berani dan tak kisah dipandang senget dan serong tongue.gif Saya bawak je kipas. Tapi untuk kipas diri sendiri je le.




Just wanna add ...

Situation A
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Exposure Setting A, SB900@TTL - outdoor under the sun

Situation B
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Exposure Setting A, SB900@TTL - indoor in dim light

You might be able to burst or shoot continuously with little rest in situation A and not getting overheat at all, but you might get overheat quickly in situation B despite the same exposure setting. Its the flash output.

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 12:53 AM)
Hahaha kalau berani dan tak kisah dipandang senget dan serong tongue.gif Saya bawak je kipas. Tapi untuk kipas diri sendiri je le.
Just wanna add ...

Situation A
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Exposure Setting A, SB900@TTL - outdoor under the sun

Situation B
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Exposure Setting A, SB900@TTL - indoor in dim light

You might be able to burst or shoot continuously with little rest in situation A and not getting overheat at all, but you might get overheat quickly in situation B despite the same exposure setting. Its the flash output.
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is it because the flash need to work harder in order to fill the poor lighting condition in situation B?
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in A he fire maybe 1/10 adi enough but in B he might need to fire 1/2 to be bright enough and light up the whole scene.
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is it because the flash need to work harder in order to fill the poor lighting condition in situation B?
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in A he fire maybe 1/10 adi enough but in B he might need to fire 1/2 to be bright enough and light up the whole scene.
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There you go smile.gif Good answer! Hehe.
So its all about how much power per output the flash uses that results in heat emition and ultimately calls for heat management and bla bla bla .. Not to mention, if you shoot in north pole or sahara tongue.gif
So one shooters flash might overheats faster then the other shooter's depending on what, where and how they strobe.
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in north pole...battery also die before can overheat la
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Haishh .... just an illustration of how environmental factor ie: temperature affects how heat works and managed.
And its flash lah sayang, bukan kameranya. Yang tingtong sangat bawak D90 pergi kutub tu apasal biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 9 2009, 01:51 AM)
Haishh .... just an illustration of how environmental factor ie: temperature affects how heat works and managed.
And its flash lah sayang, bukan kameranya. Yang tingtong sangat bawak D90 pergi kutub tu apasal biggrin.gif
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It's funny to see most of the users here have no overheating problem or at least got the problem solved after installing the new firmware.

I think it comes down to how much flash power is being used and maybe because there's a temp. limiter function in the SB900, so it makes it like it keeps overheating.

I've tried using Canon 580 EX II speedlite, quite happy with the performance. So does the SB900 heats up as fast as the Canon? Im just worried after i get the SB900, end up potong steam only.

On another note, just wanna ask, if i use my built in flash as commander, will the working range from my position to the remote flash be less compared to if i use a SB900/600 as commander because it's brighter. Since if i understand correctly, CLS works by sending flash light correct?

Thanks smile.gif
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I'm using the new firmware too.
So far i had once overheated experience when i was using the small A setting.
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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 9 2009, 06:39 AM)
It's funny to see most of the users here have no overheating problem or at least got the problem solved after installing the new firmware.
I think it comes down to how much flash power is being used and maybe because there's a temp. limiter function in the SB900, so it makes it like it keeps overheating.


I've tried using Canon 580 EX II speedlite, quite happy with the performance. So does the SB900 heats up as fast as the Canon? Im just worried after i get the SB900, end up potong steam only.

On another note, just wanna ask, if i use my built in flash as commander, will the working range from my position to the remote flash be less compared to if i use a SB900/600 as commander because it's brighter. Since if i understand correctly, CLS works by sending flash light correct?

Thanks smile.gif
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The firmware is just a software level fix in logical calculation of what temperature is deterrmined as "overheat". Its like ... owh i used to only have to score 70 marks tops to get an 'A' now i have to get at least 95 marks to get an 'A'. They just fix the "if X = Y then Y should freak out and yell overheat!!" part of the flash OS.
Well maybe theres circuitry level fix that Nikon somehow manages to patch through firmware update. But thats like adding another conductive rod to the circuit board via a firmware update tongue.gif. Owh how sophisticated smile.gif


Yes. Logically whichever closer to the remote unit is less prone to failure. And the working distance is ever relative by the commanding flash power as well, plus factor of obstructions within that range.
By the way, SB600 cannot do Commander. Only SB900/800 can.
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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 9 2009, 06:39 AM)
It's funny to see most of the users here have no overheating problem or at least got the problem solved after installing the new firmware.

I think it comes down to how much flash power is being used and maybe because there's a temp. limiter function in the SB900, so it makes it like it keeps overheating.

I've tried using Canon 580 EX II speedlite, quite happy with the performance. So does the SB900 heats up as fast as the Canon? Im just worried after i get the SB900, end up potong steam only.

On another note, just wanna ask, if i use my built in flash as commander, will the working range from my position to the remote flash be less compared to if i use a SB900/600 as commander because it's brighter. Since if i understand correctly, CLS works by sending flash light correct?

Thanks smile.gif
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Brothers, wanna ask... my SB600 mount a bit loosen when plug on top of my D90... i notice it is due to the steel mount located at the body there slightly wider... maybe i always hold on the flash rather than body when some 1 pass me the camera... Any idea how can i fix this? I am thinking maybe to push or press the top mount steel closer... or maybe hammer it a bit... but scare... any idea how to fix it?
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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Sep 9 2009, 03:06 PM)
Brothers, wanna ask... my SB600 mount a bit loosen when plug on top of my D90... i notice it is due to the steel mount located at the body there slightly wider... maybe i always hold on the flash rather than body when some 1 pass me the camera... Any idea how can i fix this? I am thinking maybe to push or press the top mount steel closer... or maybe hammer it a bit... but scare... any idea how to fix it?
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hammer a bit?? shocking.gif

how bout putting some sand paper, gosok2 at the mount?
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 9 2009, 11:56 AM)
580 EX II can be mount on nikon cameras ke??  shocking.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 9 2009, 11:56 AM)
580 EX II can be mount on nikon cameras ke??  shocking.gif
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Haha dont think so la but i was just trying to make a comparison to the 580 EX II. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Sep 9 2009, 03:06 PM)
Brothers, wanna ask... my SB600 mount a bit loosen when plug on top of my D90... i notice it is due to the steel mount located at the body there slightly wider... maybe i always hold on the flash rather than body when some 1 pass me the camera... Any idea how can i fix this? I am thinking maybe to push or press the top mount steel closer... or maybe hammer it a bit... but scare... any idea how to fix it?
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i hammer it
i turn my flash alot that why the mount got a bit lose
of course dont hammer directly la
put a cloth on top and use a small hammer

ps: dont hammer to hard, is hard to get it up if you hammer to down


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wah even people hammer the flash??? wowww hahahahaahahah amazing
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hammer the mount...not flash lol...
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now i get it.... but still funny to thnk of... beli kamera mahal2 pon kne ketok??? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 10 2009, 12:11 AM)
hammer the mount...not flash lol...
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hammer the flash? might as well as hammer ur head too..  tongue.gif
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now i get it.... but still funny to thnk of... beli kamera mahal2 pon kne ketok??? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 10 2009, 01:05 PM)
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Hahaha.. why not.. I think if hammer D3x, the hammer pecah first.. laugh.gif
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lolx..if like tat then no point buy hammer to hammer thing ady...buy d3x to hammer...haha...can use as hammer and camera...not bad..lolx...
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 10 2009, 02:48 PM)
lolx..if like tat then no point buy hammer to hammer thing ady...buy d3x to hammer...haha...can use as hammer and camera...not bad..lolx...
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Haha.. indeed..  biggrin.gif

btw hey guys.. im planning to upgrade lens.. Been thinking of Tammy 17-50 non motor version.. Any other better lens that comes into mind? Budget 2k max....
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 10 2009, 06:24 PM)
Haha.. indeed..  biggrin.gif

btw hey guys.. im planning to upgrade lens.. Been thinking of Tammy 17-50 non motor version.. Any other better lens that comes into mind? Budget 2k max....
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Haha.. indeed..  biggrin.gif

btw hey guys.. im planning to upgrade lens.. Been thinking of Tammy 17-50 non motor version.. Any other better lens that comes into mind? Budget 2k max....
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Encik rancang nak naiktaraf dari lens apa ye ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 10 2009, 11:14 PM)
go get it.. unless u want to sambar the Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8 lens..  tongue.gif
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Encik rancang nak naiktaraf dari lens apa ye ? smile.gif
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What are u using now? What is missing in ur current lens?
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18-55 only..

Thinking of getting a tammy 17-50 + sb600 or nikkor f1.8 + sb900.. Any other suggestions..?
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here's some food for thought. halfway through my holiday i got sick of taking photos and looking through a lens, and decided to leave the camera in the hotel room for the rest of the trip, and enjoying the sights with my own eyes.

=p i hope none of us here take DSLR's with us if we ever go on a holiday with our partners.

just saying.
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I have no problems bring my DSLR during my vacations. In fact, I shoot lots of nice photos with it smile.gif
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luzzio: I have no problem with it too, in fact, that is the reason that i buy a dslr:)

Proclaimer: before we recommend you anything, i would like to know what is missing in your 18-55 that makes u wana change to tamron 17-50..or u just want to try the tammy lens?

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Saw this one a while back.

Why live your life through a view-finder? hmm.gif


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^ that is exactly how I decided to enjoy my trip for the rest of it.

Ok i'll stop with the photography philosophy here =p

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If you obsess yourself with taking shots, then sure thing. Things have to be in moderation.

It doesn't mean that bringing a camera along on your trip = looking at everything through a viewfinder.

Who said you have to take a shot of everything?
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 11 2009, 08:42 AM)
luzzio: I have no problem with it too, in fact, that is the reason that i buy a dslr:)

Proclaimer: before we recommend you anything, i would like to know what is missing in your 18-55 that makes u wana change to tamron 17-50..or u just want to try the tammy lens?
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That's my point. i was obsessed and forgot how to simply enjoy sights. everything i saw... i tried hard to figure out angles, composition... it got exhausting.

I agree that it's all in moderation.

Just saying.
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 11 2009, 09:44 AM)
If you obsess yourself with taking shots, then sure thing. Things have to be in moderation.

It doesn't mean that bringing a camera along on your trip = looking at everything through a viewfinder.

Who said you have to take a shot of everything?
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agree.
but there is one thing i dont really like
if you are out in a group for vacation or any outing
and you are the only one having dslr
your pic will be 20% and theirs will be 80%
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sound like..i shouldn't worry bout wat lens i should bring for my future trip.
just travel light. with a 50mm & ultra wide. tongue.gif
and enjoy d vacation.
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 11 2009, 10:08 AM)
agree.
but there is one thing i dont really like
if you are out in a group for vacation or any outing
and you are the only one having dslr
your pic will be 20% and theirs will be 80%
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Haha Ive been known as the non-human photographer when I travel, so people dont ask me to take their shots. They have their own PnS to do so tongue.gif

QUOTE(daze @ Sep 11 2009, 10:11 AM)
sound like..i shouldn't worry bout wat lens i should bring for my future trip.
just travel light. with a 50mm & ultra wide. tongue.gif
and enjoy d vacation.
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The point of a vacatino is to enjoy it ma smile.gif Not worry about what kind of shots you get. The only thing I try to chase now is sunset and sunrise tongue.gif Provided I am hardworking enough hahaha
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LOLX...sunset and sunrise doesnt mean u are hardworking...is just mean you are awake at that time... =)
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Usually I go vacation with my partner, it'll be my DSLR and my tripod and the two of us. I mostly take pics of us for memories. And usually never pics that don't have us inside. tongue.gif

Btw, I'm a D90 user too. My first post in the thread I believe. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shockk @ Sep 11 2009, 11:32 AM)
Usually I go vacation with my partner, it'll be my DSLR and my tripod and the two of us. I mostly take pics of us for memories. And usually never pics that don't have us inside. tongue.gif

Btw, I'm a D90 user too. My first post in the thread I believe. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ Sep 11 2009, 11:19 AM)
LOLX...sunset and sunrise doesnt mean u are hardworking...is just mean you are awake at that time... =)
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QUOTE(luzzio @ Sep 11 2009, 10:01 AM)
That's my point. i was obsessed and forgot how to simply enjoy sights. everything i saw... i tried hard to figure out angles, composition... it got exhausting.

I agree that it's all in moderation.

Just saying.
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why so stress? juz use ur d90 as PnS...don think of getting a perfect shot. Shoot as stress as you want when u r having a photoshoot. lol.. iw ould rly like to go vacation with my partner +DSLR..would be fun..
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i agree too, taking photograph has to be moderate. it really irritates seeing the same guy taking pics non stop since beginning till the end (addition: bursting) in any occasion doh.gif
flash also is kinda irritating in halls and dark places. few is ok... non stop is doh.gif
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which one should i go for
35mm f2d or 50mm f1.4d???

which on produce a better image
i did ask around, come said 35mm is better on d90
but 50mm more bokeh

any suggestion form all the si fus??
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 11 2009, 08:33 PM)
which one should i go for
35mm f2d or 50mm f1.4d???

which on produce a better image
i did ask around, come said 35mm is better on d90
but 50mm more bokeh

any suggestion form all the si fus??
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Any reason i should get sb900 instead of sb600..? I would love to experiment with external flash.. But if i get sb600 + 50mm 1.8 i might get 17-50 tammy as well but if i get sb900 then no more budget already.. Sb900 rm1600 vs sb600 for rm800... hmm.gif
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sb-900 more powerful.
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 11 2009, 03:43 PM)
why so stress? juz use ur d90 as PnS...don think of getting a perfect shot. Shoot as stress as you want when u r having a photoshoot. lol.. iw ould rly like to go vacation with my partner +DSLR..would be fun..
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 11 2009, 09:05 PM)
Owned both.  35mm a bit not here not there. 50mm get my vote. You play mine before. You should know brows.gif
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ahh, i see
but i got one 50mm but only 1.8 la
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if i wanna go for 50m f1.4
nikkor better or sigma better?
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 12 2009, 01:40 PM)
ahh, i see
but i got one 50mm but only 1.8 la
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if i wanna go for 50m f1.4
nikkor better or sigma better?
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Nikkor! (woopss!! tongue.gif )

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Little update, received my GGS screen protector for D90 today.

Installed it right away, here is some pictures taken with my PnS.

Top LCD, main reason I got it.
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Main LCD, this GGS definitely has better light transmission compared to the stock BM-10 provided by Nikon!
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This item cost me RM40 inclusive of delivery from Yannick. Pros is that it is easy to fit as there won't be bubbles, dirt issue as long as environment is clean. Light transmission is better than the original BM-10.

Cons, you only have 1 go at fixing it! Let's say it goes tilted, removing it would be risky as you might break the screen protector in progress if you're not careful enough. Top LCD is easy, but the main LCD of mine has a little dust aiseh! Can even see it when being shot by my PnS. Decided not to take the risk so will live with it.

Bottom line, much recommended screen protector!

EDIT, PS, it covers the Nikon word below! sad.gif

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ahh, i see
but i got one 50mm but only 1.8 la
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if i wanna go for 50m f1.4
nikkor better or sigma better?
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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 12 2009, 03:04 PM)
Nikkor!  (woopss!! tongue.gif )
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But before that wanna sifus a question... when i use build in flash as commander mode, the build in flash will contribute any lights to the object?
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QUOTE(Hongraphics @ Sep 12 2009, 07:07 PM)
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Going to try out some strobism shoot later. tongue.gif
But before that wanna sifus a question... when i use build in flash as commander mode, the build in flash will contribute any lights to the object?
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ahh, i see
but i got one 50mm but only 1.8 la
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if i wanna go for 50m f1.4
nikkor better or sigma better?
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it react only for as a signal.. correct me if im wrong
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My vote goes to Sigma!  smile.gif It's sharper and produces smoother bokeh.
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price almost the same smile.gif
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alright man, going for sigma
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price almost the same smile.gif
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I saw Sigma being price at 1.8k and Nikkor's less than 1k?
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Same price? Are you sure about this?

I saw Sigma being price at 1.8k and Nikkor's less than 1k?
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i google it, both also around 1.4k
anyone got the latest price list??
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 12 2009, 08:27 PM)
ya meh????
i google it, both also around 1.4k
anyone got the latest price list??
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Same price? Are you sure about this?

I saw Sigma being price at 1.8k and Nikkor's less than 1k?
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WAH??!! why so expensive one!!!
i thought 1.8k max
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Woohoo.. bought SB900 and 50mm 1.8 from tarita lowyat.. Total.. RM1980.. Broke..
Hope i utilise the flash well.. So damn freaking huge.. Having second thoughts now of getting the sb600 instead.. hmm.gif
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Woohoo.. bought SB900 and 50mm 1.8 from tarita lowyat.. Total.. RM1980.. Broke..
Hope i utilise the flash well.. So damn freaking huge.. Having second thoughts now of getting the sb600 instead..  hmm.gif
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come come, give it to me
i give you sb600
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 12 2009, 09:20 PM)
Woohoo.. bought SB900 and 50mm 1.8 from tarita lowyat.. Total.. RM1980.. Broke..
Hope i utilise the flash well.. So damn freaking huge.. Having second thoughts now of getting the sb600 instead..  hmm.gif
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utilize the power wisely.. i cant imagine using sb900 on smaller bodies like d5000 @ d3000..  shakehead.gif
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less than 1k the AFD one.. AF-S more than 1k.. 1.4k la perhaps?
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 12 2009, 09:29 PM)
no...u cant imagine sb5000/sb3000 mounted on d900...  biggrin.gif  sry d3000/d5000 user...xD
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regret getting sb900??
come come, give it to me
i give you sb600
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utilize the power wisely.. i cant imagine using sb900 on smaller bodies like d5000 @ d3000..  shakehead.gif
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Yea.. already looks weird on D90..
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at least u guys got kitlens or other 'bigger' lens.. mine was just 50mm with the huge sb900.. laugh.gif looks very weird..

just sharing with u guys.. nod.gif

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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 11 2009, 10:08 AM)
agree.
but there is one thing i dont really like
if you are out in a group for vacation or any outing
and you are the only one having dslr
your pic will be 20% and theirs will be 80%
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Any reason i should get sb900 instead of sb600..? I would love to experiment with external flash.. But if i get sb600 + 50mm 1.8 i might get 17-50 tammy as well but if i get sb900 then no more budget already.. Sb900 rm1600 vs sb600 for rm800...  hmm.gif
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sb900 damn powerful. can shoot from far... bright enuff to blind people rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


trying out my new cheap lense tongue.gif tongue.gif nikkor potrait lense 50mm F1.8
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sb900 damn powerful. can shoot from far... bright enuff to blind people  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
trying out my new cheap lense  tongue.gif  tongue.gif nikkor potrait lense 50mm F1.8
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lol.. but the size..  rclxub.gif  sweat.gif  Price also..  laugh.gif
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What type of rechargeable batteries you guys use for you external flash?
These days there are Low Self Discharge type such as Sanyo Eneloop but those batteries typically have a capacity of 2000mah only. Whether i use a 2700mah or 2000mah battery, should not affect flash recharging time right?

Any recommendations? biggrin.gif
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Some curve tweaking applied, a small but slightly visible vignetting added for emphasis.

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What type of rechargeable batteries you guys use for you external flash?
These days there are Low Self Discharge type such as Sanyo Eneloop but those batteries typically have a capacity of 2000mah only. Whether i use a 2700mah or 2000mah battery, should not affect flash recharging time right?

Any recommendations?  biggrin.gif
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IINM mAh does affect recharging time...but are u an event shooter? for casual shooter like me, my sony cycle energy is good enough...
http://products.sel.sony.com/battery/cycle_energy.php
i can shoot more than 1k with sb600 (not full blast of course)...its cheaper than eneeloop....
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What type of rechargeable batteries you guys use for you external flash?
These days there are Low Self Discharge type such as Sanyo Eneloop but those batteries typically have a capacity of 2000mah only. Whether i use a 2700mah or 2000mah battery, should not affect flash recharging time right?

Any recommendations?  biggrin.gif
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the cheapo GP 2700 & 1600 (backup) rechargeable never let me down (yet)
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luzzio, i like the blue cast your photograph has...
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 14 2009, 09:14 AM)
IINM mAh does affect recharging time...but are u an event shooter? for casual shooter like me, my sony cycle energy is good enough...
http://products.sel.sony.com/battery/cycle_energy.php
i can shoot more than 1k with sb600 (not full blast of course)...its cheaper than eneeloop....
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the recharging time i think is affected by mAh but only for larger flash bursts only. for smaller bursts, can hardly tell the difference. i compared both side by side before purchasing the ones that can hold charge. biggrin.gif

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shockk: oh...I see, i think it may be more obvious when used in full blast, however, for normal used, i dont think i neeed super high mAh.
so long that it is cheap smile.gif hahah
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sp00ky, for me.. already very fast recycle time when at low-burst, so i don't mind.. i'd rather have those that can hold charge... these type of batteries have longer lifetimes as well, IIANM
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yeah...that is why i am using sony cycle energy...

fyi, i am not recommending one to take super high mAh, my sony is only 2000mah IINM hahahh.more than enuf la..(for me la)
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wht is iinm and iianm?

i using sony cycle energy 2500mah...even 1 month i didnt charge still firing good!
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i thought mAh is the capacity of the battery as in how much juice it can store rite?
cycle times are more affected by the voltage. rechargeables is 1.2V, normal alkaline cell is 1.5V and the panasonic ones like the evolta are 1.7V when fresh.
There's another panasonic battery which are specially for digital cameras also but it was famous before evolta came out. it came with my panasonic dmc lz2 but i forgot already.

edit: ahh yes.....i remember already....its the panasonic oxyride. it's rated at 1.7V when new.

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wht is iinm and iianm?

i using sony cycle energy 2500mah...even 1 month i didnt charge still firing good!
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the rod and the cable there is a no no la.

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the rod and the cable there is a no no la.
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also, if possible find a less distracting background as u want the main focus to be on the flowers.
in this case, the ceiling fan.
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also, if possible find a less distracting background as u want the main focus to be on the flowers.
in this case, the ceiling fan.
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Sep 14 2009, 11:49 PM)
i thought mAh is the capacity of the battery as in how much juice it can store rite?
cycle times are more affected by the voltage. rechargeables is 1.2V, normal alkaline cell is 1.5V and the panasonic ones like the evolta are 1.7V when fresh.
There's another panasonic battery which are specially for digital cameras also but it was famous before evolta came out. it came with my panasonic dmc lz2 but i forgot already.

edit: ahh yes.....i remember already....its the panasonic oxyride. it's rated at 1.7V when new.
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I was thinking of i have a lower capacity battery, then it'll run out of juice quicker and therefore result in lower recharging time? Since voltage would drop slightly also.

Anyway, is there a lot of difference between the Low Self Discharge batteries and those normal NiMH high capacity battery? I know Sanyo Eneloop 4AA + charger is around RM140.
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try sony cycle energy with Low Self Discharge (LSD) technology too...RM80 4 batt + charger...i have left my batt for months without any problem:)
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QUOTE(luzzio @ Sep 14 2009, 07:08 AM)
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Anyone using MB-D80 on their D90? Do you experience lost of power whenever you hold it by the grip on vertical position?
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Anyone using MB-D80 on their D90? Do you experience lost of power whenever you hold it by the grip on vertical position?
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No dear ive never experienced that. Sounds like the contact is ... well, not in contact smile.gif Bad copy u got there probably ?

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Yes is due to bad contact, I haven't got mine. Just that I read about complaints like this when I was reading reviews of it. So was just wondering how common it is among D90 users with MB-D80.
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Never encountered such a problem on my MB-D80 too.
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Loss of power as in? The grip becomes not responsive? Or battery power drains?
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Yes is due to bad contact, I haven't got mine. Just that I read about complaints like this when I was reading reviews of it. So was just wondering how common it is among D90 users with MB-D80.
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It could be rough handling.. Maybe they dropped it.
It's really hard to imagine how it can spoil when the build is so darn solid.
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hehe. Battery grip for d90 now how much eh?
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around RM510

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hehe. Battery grip for d90 now how much eh?
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 15 2009, 06:38 PM)
around RM510
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So expensive? I can get it around RM 450 to RM 500.

3rd party may be a good replacement too if can't afford. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shockk @ Sep 15 2009, 06:00 PM)
It could be rough handling.. Maybe they dropped it.
It's really hard to imagine how it can spoil when the build is so darn solid.
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True, I'm just sort of surveying around before getting one biggrin.gif.

QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Sep 15 2009, 06:54 PM)
So expensive? I can get it around RM 450 to RM 500.

3rd party may be a good replacement too if can't afford. smile.gif
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So expensive? I can get it around RM 450 to RM 500.

3rd party may be a good replacement too if can't afford. smile.gif
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So expensive? I can get it around RM 450 to RM 500.

3rd party may be a good replacement too if can't afford. smile.gif
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Lower than 450??
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Lower than 450??
great, when i need it i will drop you a pm
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If can get that price with free extra battery, please tell me. I want get 10 unit brows.gif
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 15 2009, 08:29 PM)
LOL!!
dont think so la
but if can get that price with battery
that would be great!!!
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 15 2009, 02:02 PM)
Anyone using MB-D80 on their D90? Do you experience lost of power whenever you hold it by the grip on vertical position?
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im using 3rd party meike grip..no problem.. i thought nikon should not have any problem. You got a lemon copy i think..
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I can get lower than that laugh.gif
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Lower than RM450 for a new one? Sos please, interested to know drool.gif

QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 15 2009, 09:39 PM)
im using 3rd party meike grip..no problem.. i thought nikon should not have any problem. You got a lemon copy i think..
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QUOTE(blstz @ Sep 15 2009, 06:31 AM)
I was thinking of i have a lower capacity battery, then it'll run out of juice quicker and therefore result in lower recharging time? Since voltage would drop slightly also.

Anyway, is there a lot of difference between the Low Self Discharge batteries and those normal NiMH high capacity battery? I know Sanyo Eneloop 4AA + charger is around RM140.
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imho, there is only a slight difference between the LSD batts and the usual old skool NiMH, in my experience when using GP Recyko+ and GP NiMH 2700, i find that, NiMH obviously lasts longer coz higher capacity if u use it in one go. if u keep it for a week after charging and then continue to use it again, a lot of power would be gone already. On the other hand, recyko being a LSD, it keeps the power so u can keep it as spare in case u just need to use your camera for one or two shots once awhile. However, when doing a photoshoot for a event or smth, i notice that recyko charges my flash slower than NiMH. Just a lil bit slower. Not to say that much difference. I think of the NiMH like a big aggressive guy with much strength but not as much value as the LSD being a wise business man.

Thats just from my personal experience la. No lab testing or wtv rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 15 2009, 08:59 PM)
D3 no need battery grip..  laugh.gif
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btw, is weather proof = rain proof??
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 15 2009, 09:49 PM)
Lower than RM450 for a new one? Sos please, interested to know  drool.gif
Haven't got one for myself, was reading reviews about it on the internet. Researching a little before buying smile.gif.
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oh good then. If you planning to sell ur d90 in the future..then get the original grip. If u know u r going to keep it, just get 3rd party..works as well. Just the AEL button will fade in time only.. i don expect much from a grip since it doesn't affect ur image outcome. Third parties are priced around RM250, 200 bucks cheaper than MB-D80. You could get an original EnEL3 battery with changes back!


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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 15 2009, 10:01 PM)
hahaha, but D90 need tongue.gif
btw, is weather proof = rain proof??
if yes that means can take photo in the rain??
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Yes, D300 to D3x are all 'splash proof'! How nice? Tricky part is, you do not know whether the lens attached is weather proof or not. wink.gif

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 15 2009, 10:02 PM)
oh good then. If you planning to sell ur d90 in the future..then get the original grip. If u know u r going to keep it, just get 3rd party..works as well. Just the AEL button will fade in time only.. i don expect much from a grip since it doesn't affect ur image outcome. Third parties are priced around RM250, 200 bucks cheaper than MB-D80. You could get an original EnEL3 battery with changes back!


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Yes, D300 to D3x are all 'splash proof'! How nice? Tricky part is, you do not know whether the lens attached is weather proof or not.  wink.gif
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ohhh...but how much splash can it take???
sad la, d90 dont have sad.gif
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 15 2009, 10:13 PM)
ohhh...but how much splash can it take???
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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 15 2009, 10:35 PM)
how much you asked?

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how much you asked?

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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 15 2009, 10:51 PM)
Nikon's CEO should see this..

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Sep 15 2009, 11:06 PM)
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hehe. Battery grip for d90 now how much eh?
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rm400 for the batt grip
rm100 for the batt

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how heavy is the battery grip??? thinking that body+siggy lense + flash = patah tangan woooo


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hey all,
im newbie here..some questions i need to ask as i wanna buy my 1st dlsr (since there's starting promotion for nikon until 30 sept) and i've compare the d3k with d90.
here i go:-
1) is there big different between these 2 in term of image quality adn the processing speed?
2) as i did some research in google, their opinion is get a d3k for entry level and get a bettter lense instead of a better body as lenses will get a better 2nd value even after using for 1 or 2 years..but how bout if really using for a long long term..says bout 5-10 years?
3) ccd and cmos sensor, review said dat the image quality for ccd is better than cmos but as i see high-end dslr they do have cmos instead of ccd.any comment on this?

any comment from u all are welcome and thanks in advance. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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if im not mistaken, the d90 and d3000 have the same sensor so image quality shouldn't be any different. I've held the d3000 and it's tiny, with less controls. u get what u pay for.

yes, buying a cheaper body will give ur lens budget more breathing room. lenses do make alot of difference anyway, more so than the body most of the time.

its all about priorities. but if u want to keep your body for a long time and improve our gear bsed on lenses, then i'd suggest splurging that 1k more for a d90 instead of a d3000.
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QUOTE(teybeng @ Sep 16 2009, 12:10 AM)
rm400 for the batt grip
rm100 for the batt
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Is this pricing for new or second hand? hmm.gif

luzzio, D3000 is using a CCD instead of CMOS right? If my memory does not fail me.
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QUOTE(luzzio @ Sep 16 2009, 05:15 AM)
if im not mistaken, the d90 and d3000 have the same sensor so image quality shouldn't be any different. I've held the d3000 and it's tiny, with less controls. u get what u pay for.

yes, buying a cheaper body will give ur lens budget more breathing room. lenses do make alot of difference anyway, more so than the body most of the time.

its all about priorities. but if u want to keep your body for a long time and improve our gear bsed on lenses, then i'd suggest splurging that 1k more for a d90 instead of a d3000.
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luzzio, D3000 is using a CCD instead of CMOS right? If my memory does not fail me.
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QUOTE(luzzio @ Sep 16 2009, 05:15 AM)
if im not mistaken, the d90 and d3000 have the same sensor so image quality shouldn't be any different. I've held the d3000 and it's tiny, with less controls. u get what u pay for.

yes, buying a cheaper body will give ur lens budget more breathing room. lenses do make alot of difference anyway, more so than the body most of the time.

its all about priorities. but if u want to keep your body for a long time and improve our gear bsed on lenses, then i'd suggest splurging that 1k more for a d90 instead of a d3000.
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Nope. The D3000 is using same sensor as the D60. It is a CCD sensor. The D5000 has the same sensor as the D90 which is CMOS. I think the newer CMOS sensor is the one that has very low noise at high ISOs. Yup, if you can afford it, get the D90. The D5000 is nice but you have this recall problem. You don't know whether all the new D5000 out there have are from the good batch. Nikon is not transparent about bad batch serial numbers.

If you're gonna buy a few lenses in the future, better go for D90 as well as it has the in body motor. Then get the D series lenses. Image quality is same or better than the AF-S/G lenses except you don't have the SWM motor. biggrin.gif
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you're in D90 thread so D90 FTW! lol

one complaint bout d90: the menu structure cna be BETTER smile.gif

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Go for D90 if possible, the body AF motor will save you on the lens.

For example the AF-S 50mm f1.4 and the 50mm f1.4D. biggrin.gif. Big differences.
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 16 2009, 11:45 AM)
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To take pic #2, kindly transfer the following amount to your local Leica dealer. whistling.gif

Leica M9 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> 26790
Leica Telephoto 75mm f/2.0 APO Summicron M Aspherical Manual Focus Lens------------------------------------> 11755
Total (excluding camera straps, filters) ------------------------------------------------------------------> 38545 (Ringgit only)

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i wonder why is Leica so expensive??

isit because of the brand or quality??
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 16 2009, 11:35 AM)
Go for D90 if possible, the body AF motor will save you on the lens.

For example the AF-S 50mm f1.4 and the 50mm f1.4D. biggrin.gif. Big differences.
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@ bold : The photo quality actually looks different.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 16 2009, 04:44 PM)
@ bold : The photo quality actually looks different.
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Just wondering, which one among them is better?
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Just wondering, which one among them is better?
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i think is 50mm 1.4G
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QUOTE(robindebean @ Sep 9 2009, 06:43 PM)
i hammer it
i turn my flash alot that why the mount got a bit lose
of course dont hammer directly la
put a cloth on top and use a small hammer

ps: dont hammer to hard, is hard to get it up if you hammer to down
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Any other way other than hammer? i dun mind paying...
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 16 2009, 07:01 AM)
Is this pricing for new or second hand?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 16 2009, 04:26 PM)
To take pic #2, kindly transfer the following amount to your local Leica dealer.  whistling.gif

Leica M9 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> 26790
Leica Telephoto 75mm f/2.0 APO Summicron M Aspherical Manual Focus Lens------------------------------------> 11755
Total (excluding camera straps, filters) ------------------------------------------------------------------> 38545 (Ringgit only)

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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 16 2009, 09:38 AM)
Nope. The D3000 is using same sensor as the D60. It is a CCD sensor. The D5000 has the same sensor as the D90 which is CMOS. I think the newer CMOS sensor is the one that has very low noise at high ISOs. Yup, if you can afford it, get the D90. The D5000 is nice but you have this recall problem. You don't know whether all the new D5000 out there have are from the good batch. Nikon is not  transparent about bad batch serial numbers.

If you're gonna buy a few lenses in the future, better go for D90 as well as it has the in body motor. Then get the D series lenses. Image quality is same or better than the AF-S/G lenses except you don't have the SWM motor.  biggrin.gif
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taken at KL base?
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Taken at RMAF Sungai Besi Museum. I dun know if its called KL base.  I think its also called RMAF Simpang?  flex.gif
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hi all D90 lovers,

i just wanna check with u all bout the price of a D90 + kit.
i just went to the mines Fotokem and the camera shop 2 doors away. Fotokem is currently offering me RM4180 and the other shop RM4150 but both no stock n will get back to me tomorrow.
Do you think that the price is reasonable? any suggestions of other places that i can get from? i wanna get it b4 i leave for M'sia this saturday. smile.gif
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cry.gif cry.gif guys can i ask something here,

can AF NIKKOR 70-300mm 1:4-5.6D be mount on D90??

i tried but after i mount it my dina cannot snap picture and it show F33 on the top panel

or is it the lens already broken?
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QUOTE(machinetosh @ Sep 17 2009, 12:37 AM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  guys can i ask something here,

can AF NIKKOR 70-300mm 1:4-5.6D be mount on D90??

i tried but after i mount it my dina cannot snap picture and it show F33 on the top panel

or is it the lens already broken?
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QUOTE(machinetosh @ Sep 17 2009, 12:37 AM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  guys can i ask something here,

can AF NIKKOR 70-300mm 1:4-5.6D be mount on D90??

i tried but after i mount it my dina cannot snap picture and it show F33 on the top panel

or is it the lens already broken?
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not properly fit or the contact got dirty?
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try to clean the contact,
last time my flash cant detect my lens TTL,then i clean the contact abit, then problem solve already .hehe
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Poor shot of mine from my D90 sad.gif

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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Sep 16 2009, 11:59 PM)
hi all D90 lovers,

i just wanna check with u all bout the price of a D90 + kit.
i just went to the mines Fotokem and the camera shop 2 doors away. Fotokem is currently offering me RM4180 and the other shop RM4150 but both no stock n will get back to me tomorrow.
Do you think that the price is reasonable? any suggestions of other places that i can get from? i wanna get it b4 i leave for M'sia this saturday. smile.gif
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What's included in it ?

I can get RM 3,9xx for D90 kit + 4gb card + bag + screen protector + filter icon_rolleyes.gif
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KTCY, that's a good deal!. From your supplier ar? biggrin.gif

Fotokem at MP Melaka offered me RM4300 for it the other time before I got mine, D90 kit, 4gb card, bag, tripod. That's all. I think it might be similiar package for the Fotokem in mines.

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Im planning to buy new D90.. rclxms.gif
survey to a few shop and the best offer I got was..

D90 with kit lens
4GB SD Canon Class 2
Nikon bag
Cheapo tripod
Hoya 67mm filter
Screen protector

RM 4180 CASH at lowyat. Shop name amarat if Im not mistaken

D90 with kit lens
4GB SD Class 4
Nikon bag
Cheapo tripod
Hoya 67mm filter
Screen protector
Cleaner Kit

RM 4300 CASH at Bintang Maju, maju junction..

what do you think..?

anyway can I ask silly question? blush.gif
The pictures of aeroplane taken b4 (de Havilland Chipmunk) is touch up or originally as taken by D90? blush.gif


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QUOTE(BaRT @ Sep 17 2009, 08:48 AM)
Im planning to buy new D90.. rclxms.gif
survey to a few shop and the best offer I got was..

D90 with kit lens
4GB SD Canon Class 2
Nikon bag
Cheapo tripod
Hoya 67mm filter
Screen protector


RM 4180 CASH at lowyat. Shop name amarat if Im not mistaken

D90 with kit lens
4GB SD Class 4
Nikon bag
Cheapo tripod
Hoya 67mm filter
Screen protector
Cleaner Kit

RM 4300 CASH at Bintang Maju, maju junction..

what do you think..?

anyway can I ask silly question? blush.gif
The pictures of aeroplane taken b4 (de Havilland Chipmunk) is touch up or originally as taken by D90? blush.gif
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Go for the one i Bold. you could even bargain without the tripod or memory card too.
I'm sure later, both of these won't serve you well already.
It could be a way to avoid wasting some money. As for the price, it's not far away comparing with other shops. smile.gif
Welcome to D90 world. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 17 2009, 06:55 AM)
What's included in it ?

I can get RM 3,9xx for D90 kit + 4gb card + bag + screen protector + filter icon_rolleyes.gif
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D90 + kit +8GB memory card + bag + Chepo UV filter
mind telling me where can i get for ur price?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 17 2009, 07:06 AM)
KTCY, that's a good deal!. From your supplier ar? biggrin.gif

Fotokem at MP Melaka offered me RM4300 for it the other time before I got mine, D90 kit, 4gb card, bag, tripod. That's all. I think it might be similiar package for the Fotokem in mines.
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yea it's similar.
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What's included in it ?

I can get RM 3,9xx for D90 kit + 4gb card + bag + screen protector + filter icon_rolleyes.gif
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good deal..where?I might get one smile.gif
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QUOTE(BaRT @ Sep 17 2009, 08:48 AM)
Im planning to buy new D90.. rclxms.gif
survey to a few shop and the best offer I got was..

D90 with kit lens
4GB SD Canon Class 2
Nikon bag
Cheapo tripod
Hoya 67mm filter
Screen protector

RM 4180 CASH at lowyat. Shop name amarat if Im not mistaken

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anyway can I ask silly question? blush.gif
The pictures of aeroplane taken b4 (de Havilland Chipmunk) is touch up or originally as taken by D90? blush.gif
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Eh! ... I don't understand. rclxub.gif I keep seeing the D90 kit bundled with screen protector. I thought the screen protector comes together with the D90. Is this something different than the BM10 like the GGS screen protector? hmm.gif

Dun be scared. The color of the Chipmunk is from Gimp after post-processed. Original from camera is nice color. biggrin.gif

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I think those screen protectors are the similiar ones used by handphone. Like the Digieye ones.
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Taken at RMAF Sungai Besi Museum. I dun know if its called KL base.  I think its also called RMAF Simpang?  flex.gif

thts y look so familiar. I live there.
They not yet done with the upgrading.. Went there 2 weeks ago to take pics but they still doing the upgrading. Will be ready in 2 months like tht.
Did u went into the hangar?
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u make me hungry.. can batal puasa lor.. huhuhu!! sad.gif
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u make me hungry.. can batal puasa lor.. huhuhu!! sad.gif
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that is why i always 'spoiler' my pics during the fasting month smile.gif
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that is why i always 'spoiler' my pics during the fasting month smile.gif
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QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 16 2009, 09:38 AM)
Nope. The D3000 is using same sensor as the D60. It is a CCD sensor. The D5000 has the same sensor as the D90 which is CMOS. I think the newer CMOS sensor is the one that has very low noise at high ISOs. Yup, if you can afford it, get the D90. The D5000 is nice but you have this recall problem. You don't know whether all the new D5000 out there have are from the good batch. Nikon is not  transparent about bad batch serial numbers.

If you're gonna buy a few lenses in the future, better go for D90 as well as it has the in body motor. Then get the D series lenses. Image quality is same or better than the AF-S/G lenses except you don't have the SWM motor.  biggrin.gif
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CMOS should be noisier at higher ISO right?
but should the built-in motor in lense is better than built-in body?
built-in lense AF more quicker, silent and less vibrating. if using d90 with built-in lense will it be better quality image capture or juz the same?
plz correct me if im wrong in any statement i've made.

QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Sep 16 2009, 10:02 AM)
you're in D90 thread so D90 FTW! lol
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LOL...im here to ask u all bout the opinion as im goin to get 1...and since is a d90 thread i hope there's no bias at all
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 16 2009, 11:35 AM)
Go for D90 if possible, the body AF motor will save you on the lens.
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u r right...what if the motor break down? will the AF work if i get a built-in motor lense??

QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 17 2009, 06:55 AM)
What's included in it ?

I can get RM 3,9xx for D90 kit + 4gb card + bag + screen protector + filter icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL...where can get?i asked foto honey shop which located at lumut it cost RM4k juz d90 with kit...nth else!!!
darn!!

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:03 PM)
u r right...what if the motor break down? will the AF work if i get a built-in motor lense??
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Let's say you're using an AF-S (SWM motor) lens, you will be using the SWM instead of the built in motor. So even if the built in motor is faulty, you can still AF with the lens motor.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 17 2009, 03:33 PM)
Let's say you're using an AF-S (SWM motor) lens, you will be using the SWM instead of the built in motor. So even if the built in motor is faulty, you can still AF with the lens motor.
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thanks for the info. so do you mean that it auto detect whether im using SWM lens or not??
is yes, will it detect that if the SWM lens faulty and use the built-in motor in body?
please advice.
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For DSLR, CMOS is always better than CCD in high ISO performance. This is the main reason why Canon was ahead of Nikon years ago for their consumer grade cameras because even low-end Canon DSLRs used CMOS. Now, only the D3000 uses CCD and the D5000 and beyond uses CMOS already (and suprisingly now, for consumer grade, the Nikon CMOS sensors have better performance than Canon CMOS sensors).

For phone cameras or cheapo cameras, probably it is the other way around many years ago, but nowadays even the phone CMOS camera sensors are getting very good already and nobody uses phone CCD camera anymore.

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:43 PM)
thanks for the info. so do you mean that it auto detect whether im using SWM lens or not??
is yes, will it detect that if the SWM lens faulty and use the built-in motor in body?
please advice.
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I don't think you can use built in motor on the body for SWM lens. I'm not quite sure about this. No experience on it yet (and don't wish to have one *touch wood*)
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 17 2009, 04:37 PM)
I don't think you can use built in motor on the body for SWM lens. I'm not quite sure about this. No experience on it yet (and don't wish to have one *touch wood*)
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I believe it is true as well. I can't seem to find a way to turn off the built-in motor inside lenses. I've heard the the body's motor AF is much faster than some lense's motor (not sure how far this is true).
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:03 PM)
CMOS should be noisier at higher ISO right?
but should the built-in motor in lense is better than built-in body?
built-in lense AF more quicker, silent and less vibrating. if using d90 with built-in lense will it be better quality image capture or juz the same?
plz correct me if im wrong in any statement i've made.
LOL...im here to ask u all bout the opinion as im goin to get 1...and since is a d90 thread i hope there's no bias at all
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u r right...what if the motor break down? will the AF work if i get a built-in motor lense??
LOL...where can get?i asked foto honey shop which located at lumut it cost RM4k juz d90 with kit...nth else!!!
darn!!
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To be fair, I have not come across a D3000 high ISO comparison against the D90/D5000. There is however a comparison by Uncle Ken on the D40 against the D5000 etc. The D3000 sensor I suspect is derived from the D60 sensor which is derived from the D40.

D40 High ISO Comparison

Should the built-in lens motor be better than in-body motor? Yes it should. In theory, the lens motor can be designed and optimized for the glass that it needs to move. Meaning big/powerful/fast motor for big glass elements, small cheaper motors for kit lenses. In body motor is one size fits all. The in body motor will have to work the lens regardless of its size.

The downside of in lens motor is the cost. Each SWM lens you buy have additional cost for the motor. If lens include VR, then the glass elements will probably have to be bigger to accommodate the movements required for VR. Bigger lens, bigger filters, bigger cost. If your start to buy a few lenses, these will add up pretty fast. biggrin.gif

What happens if lens motor losak? Can still focus or the motor will jam up lens focusing? hmm.gif Wah. This I dunno coz I don't have any lens that have motor. But I'm pretty sure that my D lens can still work in manual focus mode. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 17 2009, 07:06 AM)
KTCY, that's a good deal!. From your supplier ar? biggrin.gif

Fotokem at MP Melaka offered me RM4300 for it the other time before I got mine, D90 kit, 4gb card, bag, tripod. That's all. I think it might be similiar package for the Fotokem in mines.
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QUOTE(Lil'Maine @ Sep 17 2009, 09:14 AM)
D90 + kit +8GB memory card + bag +  Chepo UV filter
mind telling me where can i get for ur price?
yea it's similar.
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good deal..where?I might get one smile.gif
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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Sep 17 2009, 03:03 PM)
CMOS should be noisier at higher ISO right?
but should the built-in motor in lense is better than built-in body?
built-in lense AF more quicker, silent and less vibrating. if using d90 with built-in lense will it be better quality image capture or juz the same?
plz correct me if im wrong in any statement i've made.
LOL...im here to ask u all bout the opinion as im goin to get 1...and since is a d90 thread i hope there's no bias at all
tongue.gif  tongue.gif
u r right...what if the motor break down? will the AF work if i get a built-in motor lense??
LOL...where can get?i asked foto honey shop which located at lumut it cost RM4k juz d90 with kit...nth else!!!
darn!!
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Sorry guys, only I can get that price basically.
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any1 know the price of tilt lense?
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 18 2009, 12:52 AM)
any1 know the price of tilt lense?
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tilt n shift?  drool.gif
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i dont know but some1 told me tilt lense....

they said the lense can make the klcc pict looks like falling to u~! hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Itu lens perspektif lah aka pclens tongue.gif
Isepunye tanya ni mmg nak angkat seketul tns lens ke saje je tanye harga ?

Sahur wehh!

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 18 2009, 06:16 AM)
Itu lens perspektif lah aka pclens tongue.gif
Isepunye tanya ni mmg nak angkat seketul tns lens ke saje je tanye harga ?

Sahur wehh!
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 17 2009, 10:35 PM)
Sorry guys, only I can get that price basically.
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MD-D80 battery grip which you said below RM450 also only you can get is it? cry.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 18 2009, 06:44 AM)
MD-D80 battery grip which you said below RM450 also only you can get is it?  cry.gif
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Aiya, wats so hard, ask KTCY get for u lar, like tat mar easy lor...
Then maybe u belanja him kopi peng kau 1 cup... tongue.gif
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KTCY jom jom belanja u roti canai dan teh tarik hehe i want that batt grip also muhahahah

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 18 2009, 05:16 AM)
Itu lens perspektif lah aka pclens tongue.gif
Isepunye tanya ni mmg nak angkat seketul tns lens ke saje je tanye harga ?

Sahur wehh!
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ye ke? aku pn br tau smlm ade org cite~!
kalau harge berpatutan, berminat la gk nk angkat tongue.gif tongue.gif

smlm tu br blk sahur la tu rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 18 2009, 05:16 AM)
Itu lens perspektif lah aka pclens tongue.gif
Isepunye tanya ni mmg nak angkat seketul tns lens ke saje je tanye harga ?

Sahur wehh!
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i thought it cost a bomb.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Sep 17 2009, 04:37 PM)
I don't think you can use built in motor on the body for SWM lens. I'm not quite sure about this. No experience on it yet (and don't wish to have one *touch wood*)
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too bad then..if possible to get the answer so that whether i can decide to choose to buy a normal lens or SWM lens.
if SWM lens motor faulty and still can focus using built-in body motor or vice versa mayb i'll directly to get the SWM lens.if it wun work i can directly to get the normal lens and eventually to save up my cost!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Sep 18 2009, 04:01 PM)
ye ke? aku pn br tau smlm ade org cite~!
kalau harge berpatutan, berminat la gk nk angkat  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

smlm tu br blk sahur la tu  rclxm9.gif
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Harga memang berpatutan dah. Cuma kena belajar2 la gadai cincin ke rantai ke motor ke (macam harga tak patut la pulak kan ?? tongue.gif) Ala tak yah la PC PC ni. Apa kata kau kasik hangkat prime lens yg laju2 barang seketul dua baru bes. Tapi kalau kau dah mengidam PClens tu kira tak boleh buat apa dah la. Tak nak plak kau mengidam nangka ke cempedak ke ekk ? tongue.gif

QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 18 2009, 06:07 PM)
i thought it cost a bomb..  sweat.gif
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Hahaha noooo. Costs about half a warehouse of mercun only.

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QUOTE(the_tranny @ Sep 18 2009, 08:59 PM)
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Harga memang berpatutan dah. Cuma kena belajar2 la gadai cincin ke rantai ke motor ke (macam harga tak patut la pulak kan ?? tongue.gif) Ala tak yah la PC PC ni. Apa kata kau kasik hangkat prime lens yg laju2 barang seketul dua baru bes. Tapi kalau kau dah mengidam PClens tu kira tak boleh buat apa dah la. Tak nak plak kau mengidam nangka ke cempedak ke ekk ? tongue.gif

Hahaha noooo. Costs about half a warehouse of mercun only.
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wowwwwww itu macam cancel lah~! target macro lense plakkk hahaha surveying thammy 90mm maco lense huhuhu ade org nk tolak 2nd murah2 tak? :lol


Added on September 19, 2009, 1:40 ameh 1 more, where can i get flash cover cheap2? i lost mine la... the 1 at body there... 1 shop selling RM30...

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Poor shot of mine from my D90  sad.gif
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did you use remote flash or just normal lighting source?
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guys I am getting my first DSLR which I made up my mind to be D90. I am a newbie so pls bare with me. Is it worth to get the 18-55mm instead of the standard kit lens 18-105mm? or any alternative lens that you can recommend? I read some comment that 18-55mm produce better IQ, need some input pls

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QUOTE(chriscym @ Sep 19 2009, 11:53 PM)
guys I am getting my first DSLR which I made up my mind to be D90. I am a newbie so pls bare with me. Is it worth to get the 18-55mm instead of the standard kit lens 18-105mm? I read some comment that 18-55mm produce better IQ.
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Just get the 18-105, it's really a good kit lens with very good focal length. smile.gif

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