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 Nikon D90 v4, First DSLR with HD video recording

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post Sep 1 2009, 02:04 PM

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that is CHEAP!
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post Sep 1 2009, 03:37 PM

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alpha_company: why not get nikon UWA/
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post Sep 1 2009, 05:35 PM

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AF-S 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G DX ED
AF-S 12-24mm f/4.0G DX IF-ED
Price how much? compare to Tokina/Sigma?

Frankly, i like sigma because of HSM smile.gif hehehe...and I dont mind the f/2.8...it doesnt really matter to me..esp for UWA..

tom_k3nt: could it be ur kingston problem? im using Toshiba class 6 16gb and i have encounter anything like that thus far..

I had bad exp with 1750 so im have prejudice against third party lenses..so sorry..i like tamron built but sigma's color (1750 vs sigma 1770)
i heard tokina is one step above these guys smile.gif

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post Sep 1 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 1 2009, 05:36 PM)
I dont trust kingston at all..

go Sandisk or Transcend.. i recommend getting two 4GB Transcend Class 6 SDHC, each at around rm50. dont gamble on just one 16GB..if its lost/broken, all your images will go away with it  cry.gif

It is HIGHLY advisable to reformat memory card after transfer of large amounts of images to computer to prevent errors..

i reformat mine after each assignment/work/outing.. thumbup.gif
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I always avoid removing cards that is why i bought 16gb hahhaha dun have to remove and put in...because sd looks fragile wei..but then personal preferences lar..smile.gif....
i always format my card after i loaded it into my pc too smile.gif

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post Sep 1 2009, 05:48 PM

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zio : first one is nice!
alpha_company: tokina then...its 600 cheaper wink.gif
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post Sep 1 2009, 06:11 PM

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a question on SB600, is there a faster way to disable flash instead of turning the SB600 off?
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post Sep 1 2009, 06:57 PM

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Now im using the fn button on the cam to disable flash but is there a better way? Because i prefer setting the fn button to spot metering
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post Sep 1 2009, 08:18 PM

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d300 got 2 ka? yeah using the lower end d90 smile.gif
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:20 PM

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For those looking for 1750...wait for the VC one:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090107tamron17mm50mm.asp
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post Sep 2 2009, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(jsc_tidus @ Sep 2 2009, 01:20 AM)
1 function button only.. the other one is dof preview button, but u can assigned it to other function also.
so, its like this? bodies that have built in motor will focus faster with lens without motor?
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Oh thanks, i shall try it out later.....afterall i dont use the DOF button at all...
QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 06:51 AM)
It's not like that at all actually. Tamron DO NOT YET produce lenses with high-speed & silent autofocusing motors like HSM (Sigma), SWM (AF-S Nikon), SSM (Sony), USM (Canon).

There's basically two types of built in motor, Ring-type and Micro.
-- Ring-type is normally found in large-aperture and super telephoto lenses.
-- Micro is used in more compact lenses. Tamron lenses which have built in motor all use the ring type motor which is slower than the internal bdoy motor. It is also noisier.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, tamron is using MICRO MOTOR smile.gif...
all AF-S lenses using Ring type?

QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 2 2009, 08:12 AM)
yeah..me too.. afaik all ultra wide lenses have that prob but the distortion with the sigma is quite ugly at the edges at 10mm (at least imo) and the worst part is that the distortion is complex and cannot be fixed by software while other uwa's distortion is still correctable. can clearly see the faces of people getting stretched etc...just unnatural.. but if landscape only ok la..
how's my panning? the car is slow la..cant see the blurring effect in the background so much..unlike f1, a1 or other circuit races..hdr'ed it..hehe
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Added on September 2, 2009, 8:13 am

your advice on an uwa lens? or experience with any uwa lenses? care to share? need some info here..  biggrin.gif need one to use for weddings..to use for people photos basically..not just landscape only
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I find HDR is only suitable for landscape and that panning shot can be much better smile.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 2 2009, 09:21 AM)
I don't think it will works on film cameras as this is a DX lenses. (Correct me if I wrong).

Quite easy to find. Price tagged at RM 2,3xx lately.
I never face any focus problems. So far so good smile.gif
A photo taken by Tokina 11-16 smile.gif
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Nicely done .......I like the tones..

QUOTE(HiroBoroi @ Sep 2 2009, 09:25 AM)
HDR is like PP la. No point to do PP if the original image isn't nice. Best to work on the composition, shutter speed to get the right blur effect. Once everything is nice, then only you decide to HDR or further PP.  smile.gif

With regard to UWA specifically the Tokina 11-16 for weddings, I think the range is too limited and it is very very wide at the long end. I have no experience doing any paid photography, but I imagine with so much going on during a wedding, you don't want to be taking on and off lenses in order to capture the moment, unless of course you have two camera bodies with two different lenses attached. Even then, perhaps a normal wide will be more than enough.
Agree!!!!Discard the image if its not nice...unless that is the only image I have and I want to keep that moment in my photo album smile.gif

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 2 2009, 02:00 PM)
77mm is easy to find. I think a few shops have it. The price is a killer. Its a bit too expensive for me to consider it.

Easily half the price I paid for a D70s.


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I do weddings (sporadically) and yes, while I do take group shots with the 11-16mm, I find the group shots taken by 24-70mm way better. The distortion is just weird for a group pic.

and maybe your weddings are like super big la, because I haven't taken a group shot where the 24-70mm on a DX body can't take the group shot. So far, I can say that the 18mm and the 24mm on the DX body has been enough for group shots.

I even have to use 16mm and take a few steps closer for most group shot.
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my old sigma 1770 has weird distortion at 17mm too smile.gif....the guys at the edge looks like some monster haha..
i think 11mm is too wide for me to use in order to get a good composition, 16~18mm may be good enuf. MFD matters to me more than the focal length..
how nice if 50mm MFD is 30cm smile.gif hehe
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post Sep 3 2009, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Sep 3 2009, 10:44 AM)
well...i dont know if there are significant changes in the low noise at high iso or other improvements in terms of image quality..

but i know a D300 imo isnt worth the extra bucks to upgrade from a D90. it is basically the same thing with different body. High iso performance and dynamic range is better on the D90 at dxo. The only advantage imo is the weather sealed body which is great (but heavy) for outdoor/wildlife photographers.

Glad that nikon fixes the ok button on the D300s though..as compared to the button on the D300. yup. 5.9k..minus d90 body 3k = 2.9k

if i got a d90 body i can get a few 2nd hand lenses..hehe.. maybe tokina 11-16 + a prime or zoom..or the older af-d 80-200 f/2.9 push pull.
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hmm..i nearly bought the d300 before landing a d90 to myself (i bought d90 before testing it hahahh).....

IMHO, the attractions in d300 is
1) 51 AF points with 15 crossed sensors! (tried the 51 points and its AWESOME!)
2) better grip and size (it can be tiring too)
3) faster machine (6fps IINM, larger buffer)
4) better metering

however, the price and video in D90 caught my attention. alto i hardly use my video (only less than 5 videos thus far) but hello, that's the thing now in dslr hahha...
if D300 is RM500 more exp i will grab it adi but its 1k+ sad.gif....

(ps: noob like me had some misfired AF with D90, thanks to 1 cross sensor heheh). canon 7d introduced a very brilliant AF mechanism with the ability to contorl the size of the AF points which i find it really useful...as well as zone AF....hope to see this in the upcoming nikon smile.gif....

(canon and sony launched a lot of stuffs lately oh~)


Added on September 3, 2009, 12:22 pm
QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 12:15 PM)
Go with the SB600. The SB28 is really really old and no TTL for dSLRs.

On a trip to the zoo, say hello smile.gif

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More on the National Zoo, click here
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awesome timing and framing..love it...

I was expecting an IR shot from u before the pic loads hehehe..
WB a bit off...slightly cold (bluish)...just my 2 cents.

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post Sep 3 2009, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 01:59 PM)
Hrmm thats pretty weird. unless I set the wB wrongly from previous sunset shoot tongue.gif But remembering adjusting it properly. That purple patch is real though! it was purple! tongue.gif hahahahaha I think the lions at zoo negara has a stylist tongue.gif
Lol thanks. I did post IR pics, a couple of pages back I think smile.gif
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lol, i saw that purple thingy, din realized it until u said it smile.gif...
blue tint that i mentioned can be seen at the mouth/nose area.. just my noob comments smile.gif and personal preference...i saved a copy and did some editing smile.gif...nice pic..hope u dun mind me saving it:)

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post Sep 3 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 3 2009, 02:54 PM)
No problem smile.gif Yeah I noticed the blue cast over it as well. Ahh well, some liked it, some don't haha I would have corrected it if i noticed it earlier tongue.gif
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yupp i agree...its very subjective and boils down to personal preference smile.gif...WB is just a reference, as long as u like it..smile.gif

i prefer something like that:
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None the less, a good shot can be PP to anything, urs is a sharp and good one smile.gif I realized that you shot it at 300mm f/4...what lens were u using?
70-200??: drool.gif

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zio : AFS 300mm for howmuch?
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First thing is VR....
and if u are referring to the AF 80 - 200....the 70 200 comes with AFS...perf wise im not sure smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2009, 03:41 PM

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lighter: how much did u pay for Tamron 18-270?

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fisherman10: I like the concept but when enlarged it seems abit 'too much' (noisy too)
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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ Sep 10 2009, 06:24 PM)
Haha.. indeed..  biggrin.gif

btw hey guys.. im planning to upgrade lens.. Been thinking of Tammy 17-50 non motor version.. Any other better lens that comes into mind? Budget 2k max....
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What are u using now? What is missing in ur current lens?

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