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post Jul 5 2009, 01:18 PM, updated 17y ago

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help pls, i hv updated to version 3.0 since 18/6 & was running smoothly. since yest i realize my batt drain very quickly, it is also a bit sluggish while using it. this morning when i charge the batt & after 3 hrs of charging, it was only half full so i decided to do backup restoration. as the restoration was in process the the battery level drop drastically at the same time. now after i hv fully restored and reboot my iphone, the battery level is down at critical level. As anyone encounter similar issue... pls help, tq
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post Jul 5 2009, 03:09 PM

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I have no problem with the battery. I can last 5 days b4 it totaly drain off.

Why not You try 2 suggestion i give?

1) Backup all the contact etc manually (can find the method in pinned topic) and restore the phone. afterthat START the iphone as new phone (DO NOT restore from backup). and close all the push mail notice.

2)check the push mail notice and set all to manually and OFF
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post Jul 5 2009, 03:17 PM

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if your iPhone has been used for quite time (or u regularly charge it), may be it is an indicator that the battert has begun to age?
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post Jul 5 2009, 03:26 PM

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no i'm having the same problem as f.stop too. before upgrade, battery last 3-4 days. after upgrade, 2 days MAX. so i restore the phone, set push notification to manual, set APN value to other stuff, all GPRS and EDGE turned off, still draining 50% per day.

maybe i'll try Shock advice - to set up as new phone after restore. but that'll be next weekend.

one question tho...set up as new phone meaning i have to SSH the contacts into iphone manually?
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QUOTE(pillowman @ Jul 5 2009, 03:26 PM)
no i'm having the same problem as f.stop too. before upgrade, battery last 3-4 days. after upgrade, 2 days MAX. so i restore the phone, set push notification to manual, set APN value to other stuff, all GPRS and EDGE turned off, still draining 50% per day.

maybe i'll try Shock advice - to set up as new phone after restore. but that'll be next weekend.

one question tho...set up as new phone meaning i have to SSH the contacts into iphone manually?
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post Jul 6 2009, 09:52 AM

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Yes.. I experienced the same problem.. Battery drains faster after updated to OS 3.0.

I tried restore my phone and upgrade to OS 3.0 again. Still the same problem. B4 this can last 2 days. But now less than one day.
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post Jul 6 2009, 10:36 AM

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@Nimzai,
It is possible U have enabled Push Notification on some of the apps. If that is so, turn that off and u'll see better batt life biggrin.gif
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post Jul 6 2009, 10:45 AM

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well... i must say mine is a little different case, i think 2 days ago when i hv downloaded few software's updates, all of a sudden the batt drain unusually fast. Same time I hv prob charging the batt, for half a day I only managed to charge a quarter of the batt indicator however, some thing strange when I removed the SIM card, it charge normally but when I insert back my SIM the batt drain quickly again. As I have to work, I don't have much time to diagnose without the sim & see if it drain the same rate as wit the sim inserted. sigh... I wanted to do a reset of all contents but notice it takes more then 2 hrs to do it, i decided to skip that for now (no time)
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:18 AM

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Bro, hv u installed bitesms / realsms? pls uninstalled these softwares as they drained your battery real quick. other option is to install MemoryInfo as u can free some memory of upto 40mb. If u are always links to 3G network , u can disable it to minimise the drainage of battery.
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:25 AM

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Hi i just want to share something strange that has been happening to my Iphone recently.
I returned from overseas a week ago and purchased a brand new hotlink simpack, got it activated without problems and works as usual. The weird thing is eversince then my battery life drains very rapidly and i end up recharging the phone almost 2wice a day. I don't use the wifi and barely make or receive calls. In other words i don't hang on to my phone too often.

Besides that, when i try to recharge the phone via wall socket, it becomes considerably hot and doesn't full charge.
I've checked with different sim cards from different service providers and everything is fine...no heating up while charging and charges to its full capacity.

Also the wave transmission is quite high because i can clearly hear the interference on various speakers even when the phone is on standby-locked mode.

all these symptoms have been counter-checked using different sim cards from different service providers except maxis because i don't have another maxis sim. so tell me if any of you have faced such an issue and how do i deal with it ?
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:40 AM

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I'm actually currently in china since 17/6 & i'm using china mobile sim on my iphone whn i'm here but still it doesn't add up cuz it was running without prob, all these happen 2 days ago. I'm on maxis plan, bought it when it launch. I tried using maxis sim just now & its the same batt drain fast. i'm erasing all content now & see what happen... will update with u guys....
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post Jul 6 2009, 01:32 PM

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Let's me share my experience on this unusual-ultra-fast-battery-drain issue. My set is always with singtel simcard on normal day unless when i was travelled back to malaysia, then only i'll put my maxis simcard into it.

I have never has this battery drain issue with my singtel line with data plan. 3G, location service, BeejiveIM push notification are always on. Push and fetch on email on the other hands are set to manual. The problem happen last friday when I was travelled back to malaysia. As usual i'll set the fake apn on cellular data network and swap the maxis simcard inside. By this way i wont get data charge with my maxis line.

I was on my ipod starting from 9pm on bus and to my surprise when I was one and half and hour to reach KL, the phone displayed the 20% battery remaining warning. I have to stop the ipod and let the phone to rest as i'll still need to make another call b4 arriving KL. Well, not even half and hour later the phone totally turn-off.

Definately I feel the strange behaviour of my phone battery at that moment. Once reach home, the phone having difficulty to fully charge. I suspected the problem could be due to the block apn setting so i removed the fake apn profile and let the phone to charge overnight. The next morning the phone finally at full juice.

Since i dont have any data plan on my maxis line so i decided to set the fake apn again. God, the battery started to drain even at the standby mode. I guess i have to turn off the BeejiveIm push notification but the problem seems to be on and off.

In the end, i decided to restore the phone and setup as new instead from backup. I set the fake apn again, and never startup the BeejiveIM app even after installed (so this time i wont get push notification setting option). The phone able to last me from KL to SG, with ipod listening along the whole journey and battery remaining at around 70% by the time i reached SG.

This morning i've done another experiment and block all the network access with my singtel line but with BeejiveIM push notification turn on and yes, this time the battery drain unusual fast again. Now im trying with the network access blocked and BeejiveIm push notification turn off as well. Will update later on how the battery life perform.

p/s: this all happen after upgraded to OS 3.0. never had a problem on old firmware.

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QUOTE(mONSTers @ Jul 6 2009, 01:32 PM)
p/s: this all happen after upgraded to OS 3.0. never had a problem on old firmware.
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YES, my battery is considered OK not drain like water... but my WiFi cannot use at all after upgrade to 3.0. Another updates coming around July to fix battery and WiFi bugs?
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post Jul 6 2009, 05:09 PM

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My Batt Drain very fast after I upgrade to 3.0 and I need to charge half a day.

And I found a strange thing when charging.
I Connect the phone to the socket.
Sometimes the batt sign change to charging. And sometimes the batt sign change to the sign like charge finish.
But my battery level still maintain at around 20 or 30 % ( cause I just started to charge)
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post Jul 6 2009, 05:20 PM

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... I have finished erasing all content & installing all data & software's back into place. tested playing with games for awhile & so far so good, batt remain at full... also tried switching between both msia & china SIM cards, works fine.
now i pray it stays that way... thanks a lot guys
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post Jul 6 2009, 05:32 PM

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Well... I believe this unusual-extremely-fast-drain-out-battery issue is caused mainly by Push Notification feature (to me at least).
Why I said so ? Here's my situation.

Yesterday I played games on my iPhone and it was about near 20% left, so I stopped playing and planned to charge my phone today.
In the morning, my iPhone battery is near to "Red" level.... and I charged it only about 2pm.

While I was charging my iPhone, I did turn on iPhone's WiFi to update some of my Apps. I turned off WiFi after the updates completed.
So, I left my iPhone charging with my laptop and do my stuffs. After 1+ hours, I checked back my iPhone charging status, and surprisingly
it is in critical RED battery level instead of Green.

Without any doubts, I checked the "Notifications" settings... and I found out that "Tap Tap Revenge"'s Notifications (both Alerts+Badges) are ON !
I remembered that I OFF them before this right after I updated "Tap Tap Revenge". Anyhow... for my case, I believe the Push Notifications have
certain caused the battery-drain-out-extremely-fast than you could think of.... Furthermore, it is extremely HOT even you can feel it with the casing on it.

My suggestion to those who encountered similar situation, better to :
1) Check your Notifications Settings
2) Immediately UNPLUG if you are charging (cos of overheating)
3) Make sure Notifications are OFF (if unused) before chargining
4) Constantly check your charging status while charging to prevent it is draining out instead of charging rclxub.gif

Hope the coming FW 3.1 will resolve this issue too.
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post Jul 6 2009, 06:19 PM

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Yes.. My push notification is On. But for the programs in the Push notification list, they are all off. But anywayz.. im turning off my push notification now.. and will test it again.. hopefully it helps.
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post Jul 6 2009, 07:58 PM

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as for me, i've switched off the PUSH notification and yet my battery is draining fast like river flows..... Damn, do i have to restore my iPhone?
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post Jul 6 2009, 08:18 PM

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@Nimzai,
Keep us updated. Also, switch off Bluetooth if and when you're not using it to conserve battery biggrin.gif

@deadman8836,
Er.. perhaps U have other stuff which are switched on?! I was on BeejiveIM today and my batt level dropped from 97% to 50+%. And then I went for a meeting in the evening, and now it's just about 47% so when the phone is truly in standby mode, it doesn't take up much battery - u prob have something running in the background.
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hey tinkerbel.... this problem has been with me for almost a week... i've tried all sort of methods, from checking the processes using SBSetting to checking every apps one by one but no vail.... the only resort i could think of restoring,which i dont have the time to do.... the manual backups and yada yada cos i like to restore it as new phone.... hahahaha... anyway thanks for your prompt reply...
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Update: battery still drain out superfast with all network access blocked + BeejiveIm push notification turn off. Also experience some interference with nearby speaker when the phone is out from sleep mode.

Summary of experiment till now:

0. 3G and edge off, BeejiveIM PNS off -> battery life as normal compare to old firmware
1. 3G and edge on, BeejiveIM PNS on -> battery life as normal compare to old firmware
2. 3G and edge off, BeejiveIM PNS on -> battery drain out fast
3. 3G and edge off, BeejiveIM PNS from on to off -> battery drain out fast
4. Logoff BeejiveIM + PNS on, 3G and edge off -> battery drain out fast
5. Logoff BeejiveIM + PNS off, 3G and edge off -> battery drain out fast

Observation on (4) & (5) - scrolling on long list eg. contacts and btw home screen showing sign of sluggishness.

Removing the BeejiveIM app solve the sluggishness problem on (4) while restarting the phone after step (5) solve the sluggishness and battery drain issue.

yawn.gif time consuming experiment...

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post Jul 6 2009, 10:47 PM

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I am also experiencing battery drain on my iphone 2G after upgrading to OS 3.0. I literally see the battery percentage dropping in front of my eyes!

I will have it charge at night at 100%, when I wake up in the morning, it will be 80%, get to work 70% and by the time i reach home its 40%. This is with push, bluetooth, wifi, edge all OFF.

I removed my app with push functionality out today. Testing to see if this will help.
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post Jul 6 2009, 11:10 PM

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sigh... my battery is still draining abnormally fast & worst I have problem charging my phone. It doesn't charge normally without removing my sim card... by googling around i notice indeed thr r a number of similar cases. hope apple will address this issue soon...
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yes...i'm having the same problem like TS ..

maybe there's a problem within this new OS.

waiting for next update :-(
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post Jul 7 2009, 01:10 PM

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My battery life improved alot after i turn off my push notification and reduce my screen brightness from 100% to about 70%. So far so good.. will update again later
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@Nimzai,
You're most welcome. Yeah I forgot to mention about the screen brightness. Mine is on default at about 50% biggrin.gif
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post Jul 7 2009, 03:01 PM

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Mine is at 40%. Fetch, push, all disabled. Running only on 3G (my office line is a 3G only line). Wifi has been on since 7 am to 10 am.

This morning battery started at 92%, now holding at 72%.

Youtube videos viewed:1
Cydia accessed 6 -7 times
Apps downloaded 1
Games played - 1
Calls - 15
SMS - 5

I dunno if this data will help anyone, but here goes.
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post Jul 7 2009, 07:02 PM

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No mote battery drain like last time. I've make it a point to always remember to log off Beejive, thus disabling Push Notification. Even dyer long sessions of Doom Resurrection and Rolando 2, battery drain is as expected. Now with Mophie Air, it us back to being able to use my 3G[S] the whole day without worry of battery depletion.

Funny how a few weeks back we were all clamoring for Push Notification and now we turn that disgusting thing off whenever we can! laugh.gif
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Morphie air...Hmmmmmm.

I think it may soon be time to adopt such a measure.
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@Lord_Ashe,
Yes the Mophie Juice Air doesn't look too bad but I don't like the weight tongue.gif

@stringfellow,
Are U having heat issues on ur phone?! I was out to lunch earlier and a colleague was playing with the phone, afterwhich I went onto BeejiveIM for a bit and realised the phone was a little hot...
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post Jul 9 2009, 12:20 PM

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Anyone encountered the batt draining issue?
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post Jul 9 2009, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(beyond @ Jul 9 2009, 12:20 PM)
Anyone encountered the batt draining issue?
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there has been quite a number of users with battery issues since upgrading to 3.0 so i guess it's a common problem.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=4df0bebb0290238fdd9564932783b805&search_in=posts&result_type=posts&highlite=battery
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post Jul 9 2009, 02:21 PM

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Hmm..I m holding out from upgrading the firmware and wait for a better version.
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my batt also cannot last long...normaly can tahan how long?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jul 8 2009, 02:51 PM)
@Lord_Ashe,
Yes the Mophie Juice Air doesn't look too bad but I don't like the weight tongue.gif

@stringfellow,
Are U having heat issues on ur phone?!  I was out to lunch earlier and a colleague was playing with the phone, afterwhich I went onto BeejiveIM for a bit and realised the phone was a little hot...
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Yup, it gets hot. Not scalding hot, but warm to the touch. I was playing Doom Resurrection while having the background music playing music from the iPod, and it gets warm, warm enough to be felt through the Mophie Air.
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post Jul 9 2009, 07:48 PM

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i heard to fix battery problem on 3.0 firmware mostly turn off PUSH thingy.
other than that

i read some web site i heard that condition (Battery Drain) happened because the battery condition is not completely healthy meaning : usage of battery not healthy, ex. charge not completely full, we plug off from charger etc

So some web site suggesting we do Cycled battery and Calibration

How to :
1. Fully charge your iphone, Do not use it meanwhile in charge condition
2. After full, use it until completely drain, battery dead
3. Fully charge again, for about 2-4 hours
4. Process done, your battery full re-calibrated

Hope this would help a bit










I hope apple do fix this issue though, cause 3.0 is really good to resist, other than battery problem..................

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Not your fault -- Not your iphone fault -- No need reset -- but read this smile.gif

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/913...63&pageNumber=1

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From what I observe last time (posted in one of the thread here). IF your push notification is set to on, and your iPhone is unable to access to the cellular data (e.g. jailbreak phone with EDGE off, or problem with the Carrier data [Couldn't use internet on 3G] etc.) your iPhone will try to connect to the internet constantly trying to fetch data off the push notification server, thus the super fast drainage of your iPhone Battery.

Solution for those who don't use cellular data (e.g. EDGE off) and want to extent the battery life = turn off push notification, turn off 3G (since u're not using cellular data anyway)

I guess push notification is only useful for those who are on cellular data plan or iPhone plan, or PPL who are not worried about the expensive on-the-go cellular data.

When my battery was draining that fast (even while charging, it is still draining) the last time round, I found out that there is a problem with VodafoneNZ 3G data in my area, as I can't surf internet while I'm on 3G, but able to do so on GPRS. turning off my 3G solve the battery draining issue (push notification still on). Now that VodafoneNZ 3G data in my area is back to normal, I can turn back on my 3G and battery life is back to normal even with all my Push notification on (incl. Beejive)

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Mine Battery Drain Issue & hard to get incoming call vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

Feel like wanna bang steve's head, from world most hi tech gadget turn to worst gadget i ever own. Have to bring charger all the time, really ruin my life.
Even without JB, stock OS 3.0 having same issue. Wth were they doin before release it. Read some info...they even knowing this problem even in BETA.

Any DiGi user here having hard to receive call??Other ppl i upgraded to 3.0 using Celcom have no problem with incoming call.

Regret 3G iPhone User!Help Me before i return back to Bill!
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QUOTE(Rinyuu @ Jul 10 2009, 03:05 AM)
Mine Battery Drain Issue & hard to get incoming call  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

Feel like wanna bang steve's head, from world most hi tech gadget turn to worst gadget i ever own. Have to bring charger all the time, really ruin my life.
Even without JB, stock OS 3.0 having same issue. Wth were they doin before release it. Read some info...they even knowing this problem even in BETA.

Any DiGi user here having hard to receive call??Other ppl i upgraded to 3.0 using Celcom have no problem with incoming call.

Regret 3G iPhone User!Help Me before i return back to Bill!
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mine using digi ..and currently my problem is almost same with you , but my situation is , the DiGi signal is not so strong within iphone 3G.

the signal bar will be gone in a few seconds after i tried to use edge .

but if i'm using maxis ...it is fine ...no connection dropped while on the net or on call

plus battery draining although i didn't switch on "push notification" or enabling 3G ....that's strange

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iPhone Generation : 2G 8GB
Unlocked? (or Part Number): Software Unlocked
Current Firmware : 3.0
iTunes Version : 8.2
PC/MAC : PC XP
Jailbreaking software : redsn0w
Problem Encountered : Battery Life Span.. Battery Drain very fast! Not even more than half day.
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Screenshot of Problem(if applicable) :
Other Information/Remarks :
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@tinkerbell,

the phone is warm abit when playing game/runing some apps that drain cpu power. it quite normal too all electronics devices.
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QUOTE(martinsee @ Jul 10 2009, 01:47 PM)
iPhone Generation : 2G 8GB
Unlocked? (or Part Number): Software Unlocked
Current Firmware : 3.0
iTunes Version : 8.2
PC/MAC : PC XP
Jailbreaking software : redsn0w
Problem Encountered : Battery Life Span.. Battery Drain very fast! Not even more than half day.
Steps Taken So Far :
Screenshot of Problem(if applicable) :
Other Information/Remarks :
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I feel that my iPhone 3G's battery life lasts a bit longer after upgrading to 3.0
However, I don't have 3G turned on all the time.
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I not sure about you all, but i do think the upgrade OS did something to your phone.

I DO REALLY SUGGEST people with BATTERY problem, RESTORE THE PHONE AND START AS NEW IPHONE, INSTEAD RESTORE from backup. ( I have once before successfull JB due to some reason, my battey are draining like water, then i did start as new iphone, all goes right.)
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jul 10 2009, 02:25 PM)
I feel that my iPhone 3G's battery life lasts a bit longer after upgrading to 3.0
However, I don't have 3G turned on all the time.
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dude do u restore from back up or did u start everything over as a NEW PHONE again?
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@stringfellow,
I sure hope you're having fun with your 2 new toys! Thanks for the feedback on heat issues; mine feels like urs too but it's not so hot U can fry an egg tongue.gif

As to battery, mine seems fine for now biggrin.gif with 3G switched on.
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can someone tell me how to turn the edge off on my iphone? thanks
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jul 10 2009, 02:25 PM)
I feel that my iPhone 3G's battery life lasts a bit longer after upgrading to 3.0
However, I don't have 3G turned on all the time.
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WOHhooOOo guys i am very happy thanks to Shock. i follow his instruction and now its not draining...
usually with 10 hours of standby and 1 hour usage my OS 3.0 iphone no battery already.
but now my phone just drop by 3 level (not even half) after 10 hour stanby and 1 hour usage.
Now i am experimenting with all the thrid party application whether causing draining of battery or not.
so far MIM, activateMMS 2G is not causing the problem...just install statusNotifier, later i will install SBsetting see will drain or not
i think statusNotifier and sbsetting might cause draining but later will know liao
will try install the app store apps as well to experiment see which is causing draining.

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@breakdown47500,
Please refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1061070 for disabling of APN.
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3G browsing drains battery faster than playing a game!

Within 2 minutes it drops from 73% to 70%.

Incredible.
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StatusNotifier already compatible with fw3.0?

SBSettings won't drain the battery la ... why do you assume it will? It's just an extension to SpringBoard, not a program running at the background.
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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jul 13 2009, 11:04 AM)
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StatusNotifier already compatible with fw3.0?

SBSettings won't drain the battery la ... why do you assume it will? It's just an extension to SpringBoard, not a program running at the background.
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well it doesnt lauch the program.. but it still function i duno y. haha
ya ur right i have install all the 3rd party programs and application.. seems that my phone now is running as usualy like the old 2.2 OS.
it has been over 1 hour talk time 15 hours standby and 3 hours usage..
battery now not even half.. very happy and satisfying
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i also having the same problem... plus, my fren always cant call through my phone. but my phone still have line le... problem arise only after i upgrade to 3.0...

now thinking of changing to nokia n96 d...
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do u guys mind having a look at my usage on my iphone? issit considered as draining fast? thxx

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anyone heard about the 3GS overheating and low battery life issues? well, mine is affected... it feels warm even without doing anything sometimes, and i need to recharge it every 6 hours!! nope, wifi is not on. gonna call apple when im back in oz...
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Ok, I'm jailbreaking and unlocking, and restoring to a BLANK phone now as suggested by a forumer a few pages ago. The battery drain on my iphone 3G without wifi, screen at 50% is appalling! 5% loss in 1 hour, minimum!
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Guys, try this out.

Disable/off these functions and use it whenever you need.

1) Push Notification
2) Location Services
3) EDGE
4) 3G
5) Wifi
6) Brightness set to half or less and off auto brightness
7) Mail - fetch new data set to off and Push Off
8) Kill all background apps by using Processes via SBSettings or use 4. Force Quit Program
9) Disable SSH if you install earlier for jailbreak iPhones.

*Charge your iPhone for atleast 4 hrs (USB cable or 3 pin plug)

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ohhh u have so many things switched off? and it lasted 2 days 17 hours that is insane for me, and u left 40% ommfg T__T

may i ask how do we turn off push notification? b4 i upgrade to 3.0 i have push notification in my settings, now tat i am 3.0 its, GONE!!

and i dunno how to turn off edge, mail - new data set to off and push off, and lastly, disable SSH, i didnt know SSH can be disabled?

thank you so muchh.
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Thanks for the pointers DG.

I've followed all of that except 3G as I need it to make calls for U Mobile. I didn't even install SSH after my jailbreak.

1) Push Notification - OFF
2) Location Services - OFF
3) EDGE - OFF
4) 3G - ON
5) Wifi - OFF
6) Brightness set to half or less and off auto brightness
7) Mail - fetch new data set to off and Push Off
8) Kill all background apps by using Processes via SBSettings or use 4. Force Quit Program - will try this nao
9) Disable SSH if you install earlier for jailbreak iPhones.
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QUOTE(lancerie @ Jul 15 2009, 02:47 PM)
ohhh u have so many things switched off? and it lasted 2 days 17 hours that is insane for me, and u left 40% ommfg T__T

may i ask how do we turn off push notification? b4 i upgrade to 3.0 i have push notification in my settings, now tat i am 3.0 its, GONE!!

and i dunno how to turn off edge, mail - new data set to off and push off, and lastly, disable SSH, i didnt know SSH can be disabled?

thank you so muchh.
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To enable Push, read this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3576

Use SBsettings (get it via Cydia) and disable EDGE, 3G, SSH (if you installed) etc

For Mail, check under Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calenders


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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Jul 15 2009, 03:07 PM)
To enable Push, read this: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3576

Use SBsettings (get it via Cydia) and disable EDGE, 3G, SSH (if you installed) etc

For Mail, check under Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calenders
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thank you so much david, i have switched them off, but its strange that my SETTING does not have MAIL in it. do u know why is that?
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thank you so much david, i have switched them off, but its strange that my SETTING does not have MAIL in it. do u know why is that?
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Have you setup a mail account (gmail etc) in the first place?
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Have you setup a mail account (gmail etc) in the first place?
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I have no problem with the  battery. I can last 5 days b4 it totaly drain off.

Why not You try 2 suggestion i give?

1) Backup all the contact etc manually (can find the method in pinned topic) and restore the phone. afterthat START the iphone as new phone (DO NOT restore from backup). and close all the push mail notice.

2)check the push mail notice and set all to manually and OFF
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How do I back up the content manually? Was searching through the pinned topic but I dunno which one it is...
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QUOTE(Sae-chan @ Jul 16 2009, 01:59 PM)
How do I back up the content manually? Was searching through the pinned topic but I dunno which one it is...
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i cant find 'Push Notification' oh...now im using iphone 3g 3.0
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i cant find 'Push Notification' oh...now im using iphone 3g 3.0
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Read 6 post above your post.

Read this: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1020761/+955

and this: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1061070

Section 'B' : Localising and tweaking your iPhone: 5. Push Notification Service

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Hmm, I'm getting pretty worried about my iPhone 3Gs. It's generating quite alot of heat, so I was wondering, is it normal that iPhone generates that much heat? I understand that using any phone for a long time heat will definitely be generated but my iPhone is generating heat at a worrying level with just a short usage duration. Also, my phone is using a rubber-like full back casing which I purchased from Machines, could that be the problem? What worries me the most is that, back then, I came across a blog or article, saying that there is a case whereby a white iPhone went overheated and it somehow burned or something similiar to that and left some pink-like markings on the back of the phone cover. I've lost the link to the source and I don't know the reliability of that source which makes me worry even more.

Also, it seems like my iPhone battery duration is very very short. The battery level depletes very fast even when I'm not using it. The phone said that having 3G on will decrease the battery duration so I turned it off and yes I think I do notice slight changes but still not at an ideal level.

Lastly, I just got my iPhone from Maxis for about 3 days so my knowledge about iPhone is very limited, so please enlighten me. iPhone 3Gs do have bluetooth right? The bluetooth here ONLY refers to pairing with other devices which means I can't receive any files from other phones or send any files out? From my understanding, bluetooth enables user to transfer files across, so was wondering, is it my phone's problem or? I also went to look for alternatives to transfer files and I found Cydia. I know that in order to have Cydia working, I'll have to jailbreak my phone and Cydia works like an app store. In Cydia app store, there is an app which enables file transfering, right? I know my next question is a very preference base question, but do you all think Cydia is worth getting as I know by jailbreaking iPhones, it will void the waranty of the phone. Just wanna listen to some opinion. smile.gif

Alright, I guess that's all that I wanna ask. Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 3 2009, 09:21 PM)
Hmm, I'm getting pretty worried about my iPhone 3Gs. It's generating quite alot of heat, so I was wondering, is it normal that iPhone generates that much heat? I understand that using any phone for a long time heat will definitely be generated but my iPhone is generating heat at a worrying level with just a short usage duration. Also, my phone is using a rubber-like full back casing which I purchased from Machines, could that be the problem? What worries me the most is that, back then, I came across a blog or article, saying that there is a case whereby a white iPhone went overheated and it somehow burned or something similiar to that and left some pink-like markings on the back of the phone cover. I've lost the link to the source and I don't know the reliability of that source which makes me worry even more.

Also, it seems like my iPhone battery duration is very very short. The battery level depletes very fast even when I'm not using it. The phone said that having 3G on will decrease the battery duration so I turned it off and yes I think I do notice slight changes but still not at an ideal level.

Lastly, I just got my iPhone from Maxis for about 3 days so my knowledge about iPhone is very limited, so please enlighten me. iPhone 3Gs do have bluetooth right? The bluetooth here ONLY refers to pairing with other devices which means I can't receive any files from other phones or send any files out? From my understanding, bluetooth enables user to transfer files across, so was wondering, is it my phone's problem or? I also went to look for alternatives to transfer files and I found Cydia. I know that in order to have Cydia working, I'll have to jailbreak my phone and Cydia works like an app store. In Cydia app store, there is an app which enables file transfering, right? I know my next question is a very preference base question, but do you all think Cydia is worth getting as I know by jailbreaking iPhones, it will void the waranty of the phone. Just wanna listen to some opinion.  smile.gif

Alright, I guess that's all that I wanna ask. Thanks in advance!
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same thing happen to my iphone 3Gs, after i fully charged my iphone it only last for 1 1/2 day, i did try using d wi fi, but just for half an hour then i turned it off. when i play video streaming from youtube the phone starting to feel warm already. is this case normal or smthing wrong with the new 3Gs???
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Hmm...I turned all the push notification, 3G connection, bluetooth , location services , fetch mails all off and brightness at about 50%..but wi-fi still on. I don't know how to turn EGDE off cause I haven't jailbreak my phone and all the methods that I found requires SBsettings to turn EDGE off. After turning all those off, I tested my phone with Tap Tap Revenge 2, just with 2 and a half songs, battery level went down by 4% doh.gif I don't know if I have any problems in background which is running cause I went on app downloading frenzy so I openned quite a number of apps and I just hit the home button whenever I wanna leave apps. I dont know if this totally close the apps or just allows it to run in background. So my solution now will be restoring my phone like mentioned in earlier posts? Care to explain a lil more on the steps? I dont really get the process. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 3 2009, 09:21 PM)
Hmm, I'm getting pretty worried about my iPhone 3Gs. It's generating quite alot of heat, so I was wondering, is it normal that iPhone generates that much heat? I understand that using any phone for a long time heat will definitely be generated but my iPhone is generating heat at a worrying level with just a short usage duration. Also, my phone is using a rubber-like full back casing which I purchased from Machines, could that be the problem? What worries me the most is that, back then, I came across a blog or article, saying that there is a case whereby a white iPhone went overheated and it somehow burned or something similiar to that and left some pink-like markings on the back of the phone cover. I've lost the link to the source and I don't know the reliability of that source which makes me worry even more.

Also, it seems like my iPhone battery duration is very very short. The battery level depletes very fast even when I'm not using it. The phone said that having 3G on will decrease the battery duration so I turned it off and yes I think I do notice slight changes but still not at an ideal level.

Lastly, I just got my iPhone from Maxis for about 3 days so my knowledge about iPhone is very limited, so please enlighten me. iPhone 3Gs do have bluetooth right? The bluetooth here ONLY refers to pairing with other devices which means I can't receive any files from other phones or send any files out? From my understanding, bluetooth enables user to transfer files across, so was wondering, is it my phone's problem or? I also went to look for alternatives to transfer files and I found Cydia. I know that in order to have Cydia working, I'll have to jailbreak my phone and Cydia works like an app store. In Cydia app store, there is an app which enables file transfering, right? I know my next question is a very preference base question, but do you all think Cydia is worth getting as I know by jailbreaking iPhones, it will void the waranty of the phone. Just wanna listen to some opinion.  smile.gif

Alright, I guess that's all that I wanna ask. Thanks in advance!
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all the answers to your questions can be found at the pinned threads. do take some time to read them. thank you. smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1061070/+6
7. Battery Drain Fast with iPhone 3.0? How to have longer battery usage?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1061070/+2
2. iPhone 3G/3GS with iPhone 3.0 BlueTooth allow to send files/data?

Note: There's an app on Cydia called 'iBluetooth' which enables bluetooth file transfer between iPhones/mobile phones. However, it wasn't made compatible with OS 3.0/3.0.1.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/868281/+6
9. 3G iPhone Warranty
A: Claim warranty from the country that you bought the 3G iPhone from if there's defect or hardware related issues.
Online Service Assistance Warranty Check: https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do
*For those who have jailbreak your 3G iPhone(Maxis, Singtel etc), warranty will be void. Do an Erase All Content and Settings and restore to default settings before sending back for warranty.


on your question "do you all think Cydia is worth getting as I know by jailbreaking iPhones, it will void the waranty of the phone."

from my humble opinion, it brings much more benefits/convenience than harm/disadvantages. it enables your phone to perform tasks and specific functions which non-jailbroken iPhones wouldn't able to perform. (eg. themes customizing, background processing, killing off background running apps etc.)

besides, if you're worried about your warranty being void, just restore your phone to its original settings and it'll wipe out all the trace that the phone has been jailbroken before, before sending it in for warranty purpose. in short, you got nothing to lose. smile.gif

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I read a battery guide the other day that the biggest "threat" to li-ion batteries is actually heat. All batteries eventually die off, but li-ion ones are apparently highly susceptible to heat, which greatly accelerates the rate of "decay" of the battery ... so the iphone, which already has crap battery life, also generates a lot of heat, which further rapes the battery ... it's a vicious cycle!

@ndri11 >> 1.5days is actually pretty good. On work days (i.e. I don't use the phone except for calls & sms) a full day takes about 70-80% of the battery life.

On weekends sometimes I'll be out of battery even before dinnertime.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Aug 4 2009, 10:34 AM)
I read a battery guide the other day that the biggest "threat" to li-ion batteries is actually heat. All batteries eventually die off, but li-ion ones are apparently highly susceptible to heat, which greatly accelerates the rate of "decay" of the battery ... so the iphone, which already has crap battery life, also generates a lot of heat, which further rapes the battery ... it's a vicious cycle!

@ndri11 >> 1.5days is actually pretty good. On work days (i.e. I don't use the phone except for calls & sms) a full day takes about 70-80% of the battery life.

On weekends sometimes I'll be out of battery even before dinnertime.
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in my case ,

been using the 3gs a few days from now ,

i have everything turned off ( fetch data , push notification ,location services ,3G) and my screen brightness stay at 70% (with auto brightness)
i can last for more then 1.5 days which i am alright with it ( averagelyif the phone is in sleep mode , battery percentage drop 1% per 60mins)

but i m that kinda person who always wanted to fully utilized which ever function the gadget provided, besides what's the point getting a 3G and push phone if we cant enjoy the joy that our baby brings? icon_rolleyes.gif

i tested with 70 % screen brightness , 3G off , push & location service and constantly have Bjeeve On . the battery averagely dropped 4~5% per hour ...and i m not sure if these is normal hmm.gif

can iphone gurusss share their battery usage too ? ?
i seriously hope the coming 3.1 OS will have better battery usage icon_question.gif

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Hmmm, I think my battery is still depleting very fast even when I have 3G, push notification, fetch mail, location service, wi-fi all turned off. I'm trying to jailbreak my phone at the moment to turn off EDGE as well. I did a restore and started it as a new phone as well. Anything else that I could do?

I also got this app from the app store called "BatteryStatus". When I run the app when my phone is fully charged, it shows all the battery duration for different usage and this is the problem, my battery info is similiar to what apple stated on their site for iPhone 3G but not 3Gs. Why is this so? The battery status apps isn't reliable and or my battery itself is having problem?
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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 4 2009, 05:38 PM)
Hmmm, I think my battery is still depleting very fast even when I have 3G, push notification, fetch mail, location service, wi-fi all turned off. I'm trying to jailbreak my phone at the moment to turn off EDGE as well. I did a restore and started it as a new phone as well. Anything else that I could do?

I also got this app from the app store called "BatteryStatus". When I run the app when my phone is fully charged, it shows all the battery duration for different usage and this is the problem, my battery info is similiar to what apple stated on their site for iPhone 3G but not 3Gs. Why is this so? The battery status apps isn't reliable and or my battery itself is having problem?
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what apps have you installed so far? I had this same problem too but ok already now

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I have about 33 apps at the moment, most of them are free applications. Apps is the one causing problem?
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I have about 33 apps at the moment, most of them are free applications. Apps is the one causing problem?
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i think mine because of one IM app
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The only IM app I got was fring...so any advice regarding this matter? I did everything mentioned in earlier post but still having the battery problem.
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Delete that and see. I havent tested which app is causing the problem but I also have fring. Tomorrow Im going to install back one at a time. Mine was depleting like 10% every hour - scary
Remember to let us know the results.

Please read this about fring - http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=1299
try turn off frings notification. if still drains, then uninstall it

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i suggest you turn of location services too. that really drains the battery.
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my i3g don have this battery problem except i m using tethering with my laptop. I also have use Push mail , but off notification. Just now morning i listen to song , around 1 hours, decrease 8% of battery.
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erm.. i have used my iphone for couple of days, i need to fully charge everyday == is that ab-normal, but everyday also i got play games, use wifi and test some application la.. btw i already JB my phone d
the longest can tahan is yesterday until 6pm, that's the best i had, i haven't tried before 1 day or 1.5days... will it drain the battery life span if i full charge everyday? since apple said only got 400 cycle ==
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I dont think my Fring was the cause. I just did a restore for my iPhone and started it as a new phone as it was a suggested solution earlier and I haven't open Fring since then. I haven't even entered any mail to Fring, therefore, Fring is still not running so no push notification from Fring. As for apps being the culprit to this problem, the first day I got my iPhone, I was still having problem with my iTune account so I couldnt get any apps on the first day and if I recall correctly, the battery depletes very fast from the very first day as well. So, I dont think app's the problem.

So anyone who solved his/her battery problem, could you all share your solutions? It's sad to charge my phone twice a day while waiting for the new OS patch and hope that they would fix the problem.
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maybe there's something that runs in the background drains the battery.
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Well, how do I check if anything is running in the background? Anyhow, I dont think that I was running anything in the background eventho I dont know how to check, lol .
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After your restore to new phone you should have not install back all your apps. If not then how to confirm whether the problem is still there or not? Just not using Fring doesnt mean its not doing anything

I just confirmed mine is due to fring last night. This is what I did - I installed back fring before I went to bed and also charge up the phone. I did logon to fring and then go back to home screen. Notifications On.

This morning - cannot turn on iPhone. Now I am going to charge up again and turn off Notification

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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 5 2009, 04:00 AM)
Well, how do I check if anything is running in the background? Anyhow, I dont think that I was running anything in the background eventho I dont know how to check, lol .
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U need to jailbreak and install SBSettings, then u go to "Process" and can see all the process running.
I personally think jailbreak have more or less effect battery life, if u play hard on your phone theme, but not a critical point of battery drain fast la.
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Ok folks here is my story.I have solved my battery drain issue.i am on 2g.I hacked and installed mms for 2g via cydia and that was my problem.So i uninstalled that and also uninstalled winterboard as well and reinstall to remove the carrier icon.I also reset network settings once.I also uninstalled all push app and reinstalled im + and before using the app go to settings and off all push notification for im+ and also in the im + app as well go to push settings and set keep im services active on exit to off.
Also kill all processes via sb settings often after apps usage,off location service,bluetooth and off push mail service as well,brightness set to half and off auto brightness

Apple battery sucks....have to do all that just to get more juice.It limits the phone's capabilities

i also SSHed in my iPhone and moved the APSD file from start up in: /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.apsd.plist

and moved it into a dummy file somewhere else.. and reset the iPhone (iphone still worked).

ever since after doing all that battery last more than a day.

IF ALL ELSE FAILS OFF THE PHONE MUA HA HA rclxub.gif

Try it guys

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Hi,

I used to have battery issue after upgrading my 3G from fw 2.2.1 to Fw 3.0. Battery would be down to 30% by lunch time. My settings then was PUSH mail ON, Location Services ON, Bluetooth ON, IM+ after exit stays online with push notification on for another hour. It was rather frustrating and I find that I have to charge it up before I leave the office.

Now with these changes made

1. PUSH mail OFF, I now configure fetch mail every 15 minutes
2. Location Services OFF
3. Bluetooth - ON
4. IM+ goes offline after exit with home button.
5. Push notification OFF
6. Brightness 40%
7. 3G on all the time
8. Wifi OFF
9. ALMOST LEFT THIS OUT. I disable MMS and this seems to make a lot of different.


I find that with these changes made, with moderate usage I still have 30 - 40% of battery at night and I charge my iPhone every night with the charger on my bed side table as it is my alarm clock. So everyday I have a fresh 100% battery when I leave the house tongue.gif . And I just purchase a FastMac Truepower IV as a backup charger that I keep in my bag, this Truepower iV has 3100maH and a nice flash rclxms.gif

This is how I solve my Battery issue on my 3G FW 3.0

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QUOTE(hussain @ Aug 5 2009, 09:35 AM)
Ok folks here is my story.I have solved my battery drain issue.i am on 2g.I hacked and installed mms for 2g via cydia and that was my problem.So i uninstalled that and  also uninstalled winterboard as well and reinstall to remove the carrier icon.I also reset network settings once.I also uninstalled all push app and reinstalled im + and before using the app go to settings and off all push notification for im+ and also in the im + app as well go to push settings and set keep im services active on exit to off.
Also kill all processes via sb settings often after apps usage,off location service,bluetooth and off push mail service as well,brightness set to half and off auto brightness

Apple battery sucks....have to do all that just to get more juice.It limits the phone's capabilities

i also SSHed in my iPhone and moved the APSD file from start up in: /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.apsd.plist

and  moved it into a dummy file somewhere else.. and reset the iPhone (iphone still worked).


ever since after doing all that battery last more than a day.

IF ALL ELSE FAILS OFF THE PHONE MUA HA HA rclxub.gif

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Care to elaborate more on the bold text? I dont quite understand that part.

Also, I did everything that jackdon and hussain did regarding turn those services off etc, still no luck. That's why I was wondering.
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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 5 2009, 02:54 PM)
Care to elaborate more on the bold text? I dont quite understand that part.

Also, I did everything that jackdon and hussain did regarding turn those services off etc, still no luck. That's why I was wondering.
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Apparently com.apple.apsd.plist function is to ensure push works and always checks servers to find things to push.(This is what i read from another forum) so if u move it out from the launch daemons folder it will stop doing that.However newbies who do not know how to ssh u have to really read up how to do it and not mess the files in the phone or u may have more problems.... cry.gif


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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 5 2009, 04:00 AM)
Well, how do I check if anything is running in the background? Anyhow, I dont think that I was running anything in the background eventho I dont know how to check, lol .
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To check if any processes are running in the background install sb settings and use the processes icon to delete background apps

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I'm already using SBsettings to disable 3G,EDGE,push, etc. So far, under my processes, only "Phone" is running. I tried closing "Phone" but it'll reappear everytime I check my processes so I assume it's set to have it running no matter what. I dont think that would be the problem right? So my only solution now would be read up on SSH and try to take off the function of push notification? I'm not really a computer or phone wiz so all those terms may be a lilttle bit hard for me to absorb rclxub.gif
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just delete Fring to try. you can always install it back with iTunes once you confirmed its not the problem
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I tried deleting fring. No other messenger problem in my phone. So I guess my only solution now is wait for the patch from apple unsure.gif
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last nite after full charged 100%, me unplug de cable and went to sleep.... to my surprised, my iphone alarm didn't work... when i check my battery, it was dead ==1 brand new phone, battery drain from 100% to 0% in less then 8 hours ==1
i suspect its the tap tap revenge, coz i had played it before i charged the phone and everytime i play the game, my phone get quiet hot after a few games...
this morning me also notice the phone battery drain very fast, almost 1% every 5mins... but after i reboot the phone, then things sort off turn normal again...
so, guys take note if you have install tap tap revenge...
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@zdongdongz,
ur case are damm serious...tap tap revenge wont cause the battery drain , I installed before and many users played since last year, so far no complaint. I duno this battery issues exist on every i3gs users , or only random users. We cant assume the quality of every units of i3gs is the same, some might get better, some might unlucky.
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The exact problem with mine. Fully discharge overnight but mine due to fring


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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 5 2009, 08:58 PM)
I tried deleting fring. No other messenger problem in my phone. So I guess my only solution now is wait for the patch from apple  unsure.gif
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Do you know how many percent down in one hour?

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Here's what I've been able to achieve lately.

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1) Push Notifications - OFF
2) Location Services - ON
3) EDGE - ON
4) 3G - ON
5) Wifi - OFF
6) Brightness - 50% (Auto brightness OFF)
7) Mail - Fetch new data OFF
8) Bluetooth - OFF
9) SSH - OFF
10) Background Processes - Phone ONLY (except Mail which pops up occassionally)
11) Vibrate - ON
12) Jailbroken - YES

Note:
- Occasional WiFi, surfing on Safari, IM, Cydia
- Minimal gaming
- On iPod occassionally
- 2-3 hours of total phone calls duration in the last 36 hours
- Constant SMS
- Apps with Push Notifications installed: Beejive IM, Tap Tap Revenge

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QUOTE(geo-milano @ Aug 5 2009, 09:25 PM)
@zdongdongz,
ur case are damm serious...tap tap revenge wont cause the battery drain , I installed before and many users played since last year, so far no complaint. I duno this battery issues exist on every i3gs users , or only random users. We cant assume the quality of every units of i3gs is the same, some might get better, some might unlucky.
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Hmmm, your reply kinda worries me, lol. Yes, we couldn't clarify if every 3Gs user is having this problem but why only "unlucky" ones get em? I thought Apple uses the same hardwares in putting the phone together? and after all the debates and discussions, we're safe to say that the problem is from the software but not the hardware, no? However like I mentioned in my earlier post, I downloaded an apps called "BatteryStatus" from the apps store and when I have my phone fully charged, the Battery Status shows my estimated duration of my battery at different kind of usage and I found out that the duration is same as 3G but not 3Gs from what Apple displayed at their site. So I'm puzzled here. Battery Status not being accurate or did I get an iPhone 3Gs with an iPhone 3G battery?

QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 5 2009, 09:41 PM)
The exact problem with mine. Fully discharge overnight but mine due to fring


Added on August 5, 2009, 9:46 pm
Do you know how many percent down in one hour?
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As for your question idoblu, I'm still using my iPhone quite often now with wi-fi on. So I can't really tell ya the result yet but later before I sleep, I check the battery and have everything turned off while letting it idle. Will update you with my finding later.

@teikwing
I had number 1~5,7,8 off from your list and it's same for me for number 6,10,11,12 like yours. The only different is that I still have SSH on as I still haven't read up on SSH so I don't dare to turn it off. Haha and you got to nearly 2 days of battery lifespan, mine barely go over half a day. Sad cry.gif
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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 5 2009, 11:12 PM)
Hmmm, your reply kinda worries me, lol. Yes, we couldn't clarify if every 3Gs user is having this problem but why only "unlucky" ones get em? I thought Apple uses the same hardwares in putting the phone together? and after all the debates and discussions, we're safe to say that the problem is from the software but not the hardware, no? However like I mentioned in my earlier post, I downloaded an apps called "BatteryStatus" from the apps store and when I have my phone fully charged, the Battery Status shows my estimated duration of my battery at different kind of usage and I found out that the duration is same as 3G but not 3Gs from what Apple displayed at their site. So I'm puzzled here. Battery Status not being accurate or did I get an iPhone 3Gs with an iPhone 3G battery?
As for your question idoblu, I'm still using my iPhone quite often now with wi-fi on. So I can't really tell ya the result yet but later before I sleep, I check the battery and have everything turned off while letting it idle. Will update you with my finding later.

@teikwing
I had number 1~5,7,8 off from your list and it's same for me for number 6,10,11,12 like yours. The only different is that I still have SSH on as I still haven't read up on SSH so I don't dare to turn it off. Haha and you got to nearly 2 days of battery lifespan, mine barely go over half a day. Sad  cry.gif
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you can turn SSH off most of the time, unless when you intend to SSH into your phone. read more on SSH.
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Guys, try this.

Turn off notifications for installed games such as Live Racing, Tap Tap Revenge, Mafia Wars and so on, from the Setting.
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Here is my opinion, actually you wont too worry about the life of battery. iPhone3G and iPhone3GS have different hardware set. Apple do upgrade on component of 3gs to increase the phone performance and speed, but the battery is REMAIN the same like i3G. So, of course the hardware upgrade will absolutely use more energy to support that hardware, right? Then it will cause drain of battery.And also Apple would not expect users to use iPhone to play game all hours, or surf net few hours continously.
It cant compare with other nokia or SE as iphone have bigger screen and CPU is higher than those normal phone. It is just like you laptop battery can tahan you surf net all the day?
I can see this happen on i3gs than i3g more obvious and complaint by many users that they need charged battery everyday. I just can advise use i3gs wisely, always in sleep mode if doesn't use it.
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Alright will do some reading on SSH, but at the mean time, I have it off first biggrin.gif As for the Battery Status app, well, if my phone battery doesn't depletes so fast, I wouldn't even care about that app tongue.gif but since the phone battery duration is having problem and the statistic the apps is showing otherwise, I can't help it but to feel worried unsure.gif

@Cainz
I turned the push notification off already and when asked if I wants to enable push notification upon starting the game, I always choose no, so yea smile.gif

@geo-milano
Yes, I understand what you're trying to tell me but I'm not using it fully for online or game purposes. Most of the time, I left the phone at sleep mode as I do travel around. I dont even have 3G on most of the time as this is my first month with the phone and I heard some problems with over usage of data transfering so I wanna limit my usage first. I only go on wi-fi when I go for a drink when wi-fi is available and I think this is what most ppl with iPhone do, a decent amount of time on intenet and gaming. However, later before I go to sleep, I'll conduct another experiment regarding the battery problem and will share the outcome of the experiment.
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Hey guys,

Since this morning I have been having problem with the battery draining, and I haven't even JB it yet.
It was full the night before, and dead when I woke up. (5 hours)
I tried restore it from backup, JB it, set all the services off (e.g. push, wifi, edge, location service) and kill all processes running behind but to no avail.

Alas, I tried something I haven't tried before and it actually solved my battery draining issue!!

What I did was simply turning off the notifications for Tap Tap Revenge, Mafia Wars, Live Racing and so on. You can find these from the Settings > Notifications.
Below are the sample images of what I had experienced.

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1. Here I had 3G and all the services turned off.

2. Problem not solved. I lost more than 15% in one and half hour. I tried turning 3G, because I was thinking perhaps it been trying hard to boost antenna receiver since I have been receiving poor reception. Calls can't get through to my phones. (Reception was fine on the day before, same spot, same place, same time - different day) mad.gif

3. Lost 18% in half an hour time! Definitely not helping. vmad.gif

4. Turned off notifications for the games mentioned above. ALAS!!! EUREKA!!!!!! sorta.. 1% in half an hour time. Time now is 11:53, it still maintain 34%!!! rclxm9.gif

Cheers. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Cainz @ Aug 5 2009, 11:55 PM)
Hey guys,

I'm creating this as new topic to create awareness for those who had been having problem with the battery draining fast. Feel free to nuke or move this if this is not appropriate. Sorry for that.

Anyway, my story is since this morning I have been having problem with the battery draining, and I haven't even JB it yet.
It was full the night before, and dead when I woke up. (5 hours)
I tried restore it from backup, JB it, set all the services off (e.g. push, wifi, edge, location service) and kill all processes running behind but to no avail.

Alas, I tried something I haven't tried behind and it actually solved my battery draining issue!!

What I did was simply turning off the notifications for Tap Tap Revenge, Mafia Wars, Live Racing and so on. You can find these from the Settings > Notifications.
Below are the sample images of what I had experienced.

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Here I had 3G and all the services turned off.

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Problem not solved. I lost more than 15% in one and half hour. I tried turning 3G, because I was thinking perhaps it been trying hard to boost antenna receiver since I have been receiving poor reception. Calls can't get through to my phones. (Reception was fine on the day before, same spot, same place, same time - different day)  mad.gif

[img=http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2851/img0020isq.png]
Lost 18% in half an hour time! Definitely not helping.  vmad.gif

[img=http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/451/img0021c.png]
Turned off notifications for the games mentioned above. ALAS!!! EUREKA!!!!!! sorta.. 1% in half an hour time. Time now is 11:53, it still maintain 34%!!!  rclxm9.gif

Thank me if this works for you. Cheers.  smile.gif
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bro, we appreciate ur info, but its widely known tat push services does drain bat faster...its better 2 keep them off if nt needed...

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Aug 5 2009, 11:59 PM)
bro, we appreciate ur info, but its widely known tat push services does drain bat faster...its better 2 keep them off if nt needed...
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Oh yea. I had always misunderstood it when ppl mentioned Push, I thought it was for e-mail.

Sorry, new user here. Thanks for the heads up. smile.gif
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hey guys,
why my i3GS drains so much battery even if i played games for only 30 min?
i already closed my 3G and wifi,is there any solution to help me save my battery life? icon_question.gif
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I like Fring so I tried it again. This time I disable Notifications first before installing Fring. Then I installed Fring and it gave me a message about Notification. I ignore that.

I signon to Fring. Ok can see my buddies. Then click Home button to exit. I got
WIFI=on
Notifications=off
3G=on
Push=on

So far so good, no drop in battery levels during standby mode.

My previous setting was the same but the only different was that Notification was turn on before I installed Fring, then after installation, I turn off Notifications - it didnt help
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Aug 4 2009, 01:53 AM)

Note: There's an app on Cydia called 'iBluetooth' which enables bluetooth file transfer between iPhones/mobile phones. However, it wasn't made compatible with OS 3.0/3.0.1.

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offtopic:-

'iBluetooth' is compatible with OS 3.0 but not compatible with i3gs and itouch2g, dunno about OS 3.0.1


back to the topic:-

i'm still newbies in iphone bandwagon and the 1st couple of days i received my i3gs i can say that i really tortured my phone.

jailbreak, installed and tried every possible things until the battery went to 0% within 3 hours

what i found is my battery will drain fast when using GPS (Sygic) which is 30% of battery usage in 30-40 mins

right now with only "Phone Process" running and on rare occasion using wifi and 3G for surfing and check email, and sometimes ipod and games my phone still survive with 61% to go and has been stand by for 1 Day, 10 hours
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offtopic:-

'iBluetooth' is compatible with OS 3.0 but not compatible with i3gs and itouch2g, dunno about OS 3.0.1
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Hey all, I conducted an experiment and my iPhone 3Gs used up only 5% of its battery for about 9 hours of standby time! wooo! Well, the only steps I took before conducting the experiment was deleting a few apps. I deleted Fring as well as a few other free games (Sorry I couldn't remember the names) and it works. Sorry this may not be a very constructive reply or solution, but like what idoblu suggested, maybe delete fring? or other IM apps then have a test run to see if that would help for battery issues. You can reinstall them anytime right if you're a must-have IM user biggrin.gif Give it a shot!

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hi all,

last night my iphone sitll have 20% battery life. then i shut it down before i sleep. but when i woke up the next day, i found out that i cant turn on my iphone and need to charge up my iphone for sometime to turn it on, in other words, it drain out the remaining 20& battery life when i turn it off ???

does this happen to you guys ??? help ...
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QUOTE(Jasie @ Aug 7 2009, 10:44 AM)
Hey all, I conducted an experiment and my iPhone 3Gs used up only 5% of its battery for about 9 hours of standby time! wooo! Well, the only steps I took before conducting the experiment was deleting a few apps. I deleted Fring as well as a few other free games (Sorry I couldn't remember the names) and it works. Sorry this may not be a very constructive reply or solution, but like what idoblu suggested, maybe delete fring? or other IM apps then have a test run to see if that would help for battery issues. You can reinstall them anytime right if you're an must-have IM user  biggrin.gif  Give it a shot!
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glad to hear that it solved your battery problem. btw i installed back fring and confirmed this time no problems since yesterday. I had installed and uninstalled a few times with always the battery been drained. this time what i did was turn off notifications first then installed back fring. no battery draining problems after that - try and let me know if that fixes it.

btw i also have Yahoo Messenger installed
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Oh hey idoblu smile.gif I'll try re-installing Fring later as I'm still enjoying my iPhone battery at the moment tongue.gif For first time ever since I got my phone, I can have its battery to run normally so yea, still enjoying. Trying to check out how long can my phone last me without the battery problem, so it might take a few days. When I'm done, I'll conduct somemore experiment by re-installing fring or other IM apps and re-comfirm if it's the culprit of my problem.
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My results with my few days old 3gs, Everything is off, about 1 hour of talking time, and a few minutes of online using edge and playing games. I have fring installed too but it was off.


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QUOTE(RevoWithin @ Aug 7 2009, 11:54 AM)
hi all,

last night my iphone sitll have 20% battery life. then i shut it down before i sleep. but when i woke up the next day,  i found out that i cant turn on my iphone and need to charge up my iphone for sometime to turn it on, in other words, it drain out the remaining 20& battery life when i turn it off ???

does this happen to you guys ??? help ...
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Hi peeps. Notice alot of ppl are reporting battery issues but there are a few cases here where the cause of the battery drain is not out of the ordinary and solutions to those have already been brought up before by others here and also apple themselves i.e. Turning off push, 3g, etc.

Suggestion to put this links on the main page of the thread:
Pretty good compilation of tips:
Iphone battery guide and charging tips

Apple's own website:
http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html

From battery university, pretty legit source of info regarding lithium ion batteries:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

Might help everyone determine if their battery drain is really caused by an actual defect or just unoptimized user settings for the phone.

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i am an iphone 3GS user for 2 weeks...having iphone problem.. serching for help.. here is my iphone problem:

- the phone is hot all the time when charging..
- in the same time, the iphone battery always running low( battery are consumed fast even in power safe mode)
for example the battery is consumed 80% for just 3 hours time(with power safe mode, not playing games or music)

here is the question:
-is that normal for every iphone?
-is if not: will it be the battery problem or setting problem?

could anyone answer this ? thanks n appreciate...

but of course i will definately go back to Maxis to complaint about this..since is stil under warranty..


Added on August 9, 2009, 12:54 am@Jasie

my problem totally same like you... now still facing tis problem... duno how gonna fix it.. plan to bring back to maxis centre

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@coconut

my usage is almost like urs, 90% similarity =\ and i expect it could last longer, maybe 48 hours? but no way man =(
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QUOTE(kingkong888 @ Aug 8 2009, 10:53 PM)
i am an iphone 3GS user for 2 weeks...having iphone problem.. serching for help.. here is my iphone problem:

- the phone is hot all the time when charging..
- in the same time, the iphone battery always running low( battery are consumed fast even in power safe mode)
for example the battery is consumed 80% for just 3 hours time(with power safe mode, not playing games or music)


here is the question:
-is that normal for every iphone?
-is if not: will it be the battery problem or setting problem?

could anyone answer this ? thanks n appreciate...

but of course i will definately go back to Maxis to complaint about this..since is stil under warranty..


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my problem totally same like you... now still facing tis problem... duno how gonna fix it.. plan to bring back to maxis centre
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1. it's normal for all electronic devices to be slightly warm when it's being charged. it's abnormal when it's hot enough to burn you.
2. make sure you don't leave any background processes running.

do read up this thread for various solutions posted by forummers on how to lengthen your battery life.


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Problem Encountered : iPhone turns off without me knowing. To be exact every couple of hours. Then i would have to turn it back on. Sometimes, it wont turn on att all and the only way to make it alive again is to charge it. Never happened before this. It happened for 2 days already. cry.gif
Steps Taken So Far : Soft reset, deleted unnessary apps, do memory cleaning, sync with pc.

Hello again guys.

Any idea why does the phone suddenly drains up the battery so fast? As in the battery will drop from 100% to totally flat overnight. Its really bothering me.. Started happening 2 days ago. sweat.gif

All unnecessary stuff, wifi, push is turned off.
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QUOTE(kingkong888 @ Aug 8 2009, 10:53 PM)
i am an iphone 3GS user for 2 weeks...having iphone problem.. serching for help.. here is my iphone problem:

- the phone is hot all the time when charging..
- in the same time, the iphone battery always running low( battery are consumed fast even in power safe mode)
for example the battery is consumed 80% for just 3 hours time(with power safe mode, not playing games or music)

here is the question:
-is that normal for every iphone?
-is if not: will it be the battery problem or setting problem?

could anyone answer this ? thanks n appreciate...

but of course i will definately go back to Maxis to complaint about this..since is stil under warranty..


Added on August 9, 2009, 12:54 am@Jasie

my problem totally same like you... now still facing tis problem... duno how gonna fix it.. plan to bring back to maxis centre
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Hmm, yea, I used to face those kinda problem as well but somehow I fixed the problem already. Sorry I can't really tell how I fixed it cause I did everything mentioned in this thread and I don't really know which solution fixed my problem, so do read up this thread from page 1 and if possible, try all the solution mentioned. As for sending your iPhone back to Maxis centre, I don't think that would do much of a help. My prediction is that Maxis staff will just ask you to do all those standard battery conversing methods which you already know or just ask you to wait for updates from Apple regarding this issue. In my opinion, try fixing this yourself by following all the steps or methods mentioned in this thread for a quicker solution and it's definitely less frustrating than waiting for responds from Maxis or Apple. Good luck thumbup.gif
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Looks like either your battery or your comm port is malfuntioning.
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Well looks like I have found a balanced approach to my battery problem:

1) Always charge for more than 4 hrs.
2) I turn off all unnecessary items

Voila. standby power is still at 45% after 2 days since last charge. Usage is 2 hrs 45 minutes.
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My battery has this problem as when I charged it fully to 100% and leave it to sleep during night time, when it's morning.. the battery falls to 76% ... which is super duper fast.... On average I would have to charge eveeryyday, I switch off every neccessary network and all but this is still it. Are there any other ways to help keep the battery life?? Please advice notworthy.gif thanks =)

Oh and btw how many hours should I charge the first time I use the iphone ?????? Like an avergae phone is 8 hrs? for iphone 3gs ?

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turn off Notifications and give it a try. mine can go from 100% to cant turn on the phone in the morning.

and also what apps have you installed so far?
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i downloaded very few app only like only 4 pages??? and all notification push all off.. =(
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QUOTE(mandyxt @ Aug 12 2009, 09:13 AM)
My battery has this problem as when I charged it fully to 100% and leave it to sleep during night time, when it's morning.. the battery falls to 76% ... which is super duper fast.... On average I would have to charge eveeryyday, I switch off every neccessary network and all but this is still it. Are there any other ways to help keep the battery life?? Please advice notworthy.gif thanks =)

Oh and btw how many hours should I charge the first time I use the iphone ?????? Like an avergae phone is 8 hrs? for iphone 3gs ?
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for my case, yesterday night i have it fully 100% charged and played some videos for few minutes then leave it until this morning...now the battery is 98%...what is your usage and standby time since last full charge?
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QUOTE(dopamine @ Aug 12 2009, 10:11 AM)
for my case, yesterday night i have it fully 100% charged and played some videos for few minutes then leave it until this morning...now the battery is 98%...what is your usage and standby time since last full charge?
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dopamine, how do u normally charge your iphone? i'm experiencing the exactly same case as mandy and i can't seem to find any solution on the net that is working.. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(dopamine @ Aug 12 2009, 10:11 AM)
for my case, yesterday night i have it fully 100% charged and played some videos for few minutes then leave it until this morning...now the battery is 98%...what is your usage and standby time since last full charge?
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well my usage and standby time is around 1 hr plus.. sumtimes my standby time is around 7 hours plus.. how long do you charge ur phone??? it worries me to charge my phone twice or once a day... its not good for the battery life right.. =(
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normally i charge it for 2 - 3 hours until it 100% fully charged...even though sometimes i did not fully charged and leave for whole night until morning it just reduced 1 - 2% only...
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QUOTE(dopamine @ Aug 12 2009, 02:37 PM)
normally i charge it for 2 - 3 hours until it 100% fully charged...even though sometimes i did not fully charged and leave for whole night until morning it just reduced 1 - 2% only...
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u're using 3GS too??? hrmm do you tink they have some battery prob or wat??? since we're all using the same OS right
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u're using 3GS too??? hrmm do you tink they have some battery prob or wat??? since we're all using the same OS right
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im also using 3gs version 3.0.1...maybe u can try to fully drain the battery then fully charge your battery... pls refer to this http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=525741

if still have the same problem, i think you should send it to maxis for warranty
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Well, this is what my GF faced when she got her 3GS.
The phone battery lifespan was seriously pathetic.
It drops like 10% every hour on standby. sweat.gif sweat.gif
We searched around the net for a solution and we did this.
Restore the iPhone as new.
Disable Notification.
Now the battery life seems to be normal.
The firmware seems to be the problematic.
Camera malfunction is being reported too on apple forum.

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QUOTE(dopamine @ Aug 12 2009, 02:47 PM)
im also using 3gs version 3.0.1...maybe u can try to fully drain the battery then fully charge your battery... pls refer to this  http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=525741

if still have the same problem, i think you should send it to maxis for warranty
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thanks for the details !!... but currently i've been chargin my iphone using computer as i guess my adaptor/charger has gone haywired after i used 3 times.. it didnt charge my iphone up.... so i guess i gotta send it back to maxis this weekend... and it was barely even a week i used the phone .. =.=""
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Does anyone know how I can disable the edge function totally? All my networks have been switched off I still find the E alphabet on the network bar.
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guys no worries.. this is just firmware problem... it will be fixed in next version... nothing;'s wrong with ur iphone 3g/3gs. I think most probably is because the battery meter cannot be read properly. anyway version 3.1 is coming out soon.. so stay tuned. mine also having this problem anyway smile.gif
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 12 2009, 11:11 PM)
Does anyone know how I can disable the edge function totally? All my networks have been switched off I still find the E alphabet on the network bar.
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u can disable EDGE by using SBSETTINGS found on cydia.


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QUOTE(mandyxt @ Aug 12 2009, 02:56 PM)
thanks for the details !!... but currently i've been chargin my iphone using computer as i guess my adaptor/charger has gone haywired after i used 3 times.. it didnt charge my iphone up.... so i guess i gotta send it back to maxis this weekend... and it was barely even a week i used the phone .. =.=""
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i just found out something.. while i was using EDGE (since i turned off 3g to save battery), when my phone is near my pc speakers, i can hear the beeping sound like when u make a call and go near a speaker.. i was wondering if its because a sms or mms is coming, but i waited and nothing came. i checked all apps and everything was fine. so i tried turning off my EDGE, then no more sound. i tried turning on 3g instead, also no sound.. when i switch back to EDGE then the sound came back.

so my guess is 3g uses more power than EDGE when we're on call but when its on standby, EDGE tends to send signals out continously?

correct me if im wrong, i haven't seen any cases like this before nor any statement about this before but what explains the beeping sound then? hmm hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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this is my usage of iphone 3gs.

- 3g used for bout 15mins
- push off all the way
- played games for bout 10mins
- safari for 15mins
- ALOT of sms
- bout 15 Camera pics
- 45mins accumulated calls

seems ok but once i activate 3g, use the apps or use safari, will decrease like water. lol.

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Does anyone know how I can disable the edge function totally? All my networks have been switched off I still find the E alphabet on the network bar.
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follow Maverick's guide -
3. Phone Credit Flying Out The Window? Turn 'OFF' EDGE
Q: How to turn OFF EDGE?
A1: For non jailbreak iPhones, the easiest way to enable Celular Data Network Column is to use ipcc file @ http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/752226. If you cant see the ipcc file via iTunes, enabled Carrier Bundle Support in iTunes 8.2.
A2: For jailbroken iPhone users, you can download 'SBSettings' via Cydia to disable EDGE. You can also easily toggle On/Off for WiFi, SSH, 3G, etc. Take Note: *SBSettings has no icons. To launch SBSettings, slide your finger at the statusbar where your time/carrier is located. This will launch the program.

Even with SBSettings, EDGE is not completely disable. You need to access the Cellular Data Network column. If you dont see the Cellular Data Network, use the ipcc file from http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/752226 to enable it. If you can't see the ipcc file via iTunes, enabled Carrier Bundle Support in iTunes 8.2.

To disable EDGE, place gibberish words to completely disable EDGE connection like below:
APN: iPhone
Username: iPhone
Password: iPhone



the original setting is -
APN: unet
Username: maxis
Password: wap

I recommend just change by adding a single character to it that way there is no need to remember what was the original setting when you need it. You just need to remove the extra character - like this:

APN: unet9
Username: maxis
Password: wap

When "9" is the extra character - just remove the "9" when you want to use data

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Hey guys,normally how many hours ur i3GS lasts?
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Hey guys,normally how many hours ur i3GS lasts?
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if use app n safari, about 1/2 day.. if use conservatively, around 1 day. if hardly use, standby most of d time, around 1.5days.
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Aug 19 2009, 12:08 PM)
if use app n safari, about 1/2 day.. if use conservatively, around 1 day. if hardly use, standby most of d time, around 1.5days.
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That was quite bad ... When they launched the 3GS promoting the better battery life i expect it to be better then the Iphone 2G.. my previous Iphone 2G battery can last me 4 days standby with mild usage ...
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QUOTE(selinix @ Aug 19 2009, 03:49 PM)
That was quite bad ... When they launched the 3GS promoting the better battery life i expect it to be better then the Iphone 2G.. my previous Iphone 2G battery can last me 4 days standby with mild usage ...
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But then again, 2G does not have the features and functions of the 3GS. So, 'poorer' battery life is to be expected.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 12 2009, 11:11 PM)
Does anyone know how I can disable the edge function totally? All my networks have been switched off I still find the E alphabet on the network bar.
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browse from ur iphone this site and install it(there will be a button disable edge&3g) http://iphonenodata.com/ ...surelly it will disable edge and 3g....working for me....save my 3gs battery and never have a huge payment for my postpaid again.

the E only indicates there was Edge in that area....dun worry. it wont drain

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I am having a particular problem whereby if I were to switch off my 3G network I will not be able to receive incoming calls... I can still make outgoing calls and sms and receive sms.. but strangely I cant receive calls. Do you guys have any idea why???
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you can try reset network setting

setting>general>reset>reset network settings
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My battery drains 1% every 2-3 minutes non-idling.

No app opened. No wifi. No 3G. No music. Nothing. Brightness and volumn on default settings.

Certainly need a replacement for it.
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Can anyone confirm with me whether turning ON the alarm would drain battery faster?? Cause normally throughout my whole sleep, the battery would drain ~1-2% only... But if I use a Wakeup alarm.. The battery would drain ~3-4%...

Oh yea and another thing... I've been diff things about Auto brightness ON n OFF to save battery... I think having it ON saves more battery.... What do other ppl think??

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is my phone normal? i fully charge in the morning before i go out and when i come back around 5 the battery is nearly empty. i didnt go online. just few calls and sms.

3g - off
edge - off
push - off
auto brightness - off
brightness at 1/4
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i think apple is upgrading their FW regarding battery drain. Maybe they will release it in FW 3.1....FW3.0.1 show nothing much in battery improvement....may be a bit kot...still my i3gs can stand one to two days till full drain. but drain faster than my i3g

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There's no battery improvement at all in OS 3.0.1. It just fixed the sms vulnerabilty. The coming update, which is the 3.1 has battery improvements.

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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Aug 26 2009, 09:40 AM)
i think apple is upgrading their FW regarding battery drain. Maybe they will release it in FW 3.1....FW3.0.1 show nothing much in battery improvement....may be a bit kot...still my i3gs can stand one to two days till full drain. but drain faster than my i3g
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3GS drains faster than 3G??? Seriously?? Is it under diff settings and Firmware?
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Aug 26 2009, 03:05 PM)
3GS drains faster than 3G??? Seriously?? Is it under diff settings and Firmware?
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same setting and same FW...mine FW 3.0.1....
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With all this discussion on battery drainage, wasn't iphone 3gs was suppose to solve all battery problems? Even the sales tag is "better battery lifetime".

No offense, I just think most of you guys didn't disable the push notification.
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Gyver, I think we know how to turn off the push function. But seriously, this has got to be a firmware problem. Most of the phones were fine before the update.

Whats the point of buying a smartphone if we have to turn off all the services? All the suggestions only point to turning this off, turning that off which really defeats the purpose. I don't know how you guys can accept buying a phone that markets itself as a do-it-everything phone which after you purchase, you are suggested not to use any of that. Maybe we shouldn't even turn on the phone, just let it sit in our pockets to look pretty.

I had a iPhone 3G and had most services turned on, the phone could at least last me for a day. Ever since I got the 3GS, the battery has been horrible. Even with everything turned off, the phone is depleting 1% every minute, for just sitting there with the screen locked.

I've restored the phone, redownload the firmware and reinstalling, create a new profile for the phone and nothing worked. It must be the 3.0.1 firmware.
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QUOTE(gyver @ Aug 26 2009, 03:55 PM)
With all this discussion on battery drainage, wasn't iphone 3gs was suppose to solve all battery problems? Even the sales tag is "better battery lifetime".

No offense, I just think most of you guys didn't disable the push notification.
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FYI we have....but it drain not as fast as water flow.... biggrin.gif...i think the best way to solve is wait for newer FW.....may be good news regarding battery lifetime
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i had my ip3gs fully charged yest. nite and turned on airplane mode later on. when i woke up this morn (7am), the batt. indicator showed 58% shocking.gif
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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Aug 26 2009, 09:40 AM)
i think apple is upgrading their FW regarding battery drain. Maybe they will release it in FW 3.1....FW3.0.1 show nothing much in battery improvement....may be a bit kot...still my i3gs can stand one to two days till full drain. but drain faster than my i3g
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Even someone had said FW3.1 will update about battery, but don't expect too much on it. It might nothing different after upgrade.

The battery of i3gs basically is same with i3g. However, due to upgrade hardware on i3gs, and it need more energy to support those new hardware spec, so it is normal battery drain faster than i3g. You can tahan until 2 days, actually not bad already.
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QUOTE(geo-milano @ Aug 26 2009, 07:03 PM)
Even someone had said FW3.1 will update about battery, but don't expect too much on it. It might nothing different after upgrade.

The battery of i3gs basically is same with i3g. However, due to upgrade hardware on i3gs, and it need more energy to support those new hardware spec, so it is normal battery drain faster than i3g. You can tahan until 2 days, actually not bad already.
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i disable all the thing regarding notification ,3g/edge, email push and sort of thing regarding battery....including off my wifi when nok using it....thats why my i3gs can stand longer. hehehe
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QUOTE(geo-milano @ Aug 26 2009, 07:03 PM)
Even someone had said FW3.1 will update about battery, but don't expect too much on it. It might nothing different after upgrade.

The battery of i3gs basically is same with i3g. However, due to upgrade hardware on i3gs, and it need more energy to support those new hardware spec, so it is normal battery drain faster than i3g. You can tahan until 2 days, actually not bad already.
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Whether the battery is the same or not, should not be a concern for customers like us. They have marketed the battery life everywhere and now it seems to fall so short of it. I'm quite disappointed by Apple. You may be right that due to the upgrade of hardware, the battery might drain faster, but let's not forget the OS is also upgraded, which can also manage power more efficiently and effectively. Just like Windows and Mac, why is it both machines have similar hardware but Mac can run it better and with less problems?
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I have been using my phone 1yr+9months.. the battery now only can last for 1day sad.gif with normal use, like answer call, sms. No wifi, no music .. terrible.
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my 3GS can last for 3 - 4 days. Normal call & sms usage. A bit of wifi usage. That's all.
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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Aug 27 2009, 10:00 AM)
I have been using my phone 1yr+9months.. the battery now only can last for 1day sad.gif with normal use, like answer call, sms. No wifi, no music .. terrible.
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after 1 year , and it only able to use for 1 day ?

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QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Aug 27 2009, 11:19 AM)
my 3GS can last for 3 - 4 days. Normal call & sms usage. A bit of wifi usage. That's all.
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dats very unbelievable. coz ive never seen any 3gs go beyond 2 days unless ur fone is on standby mode for bout 90% of the time. i realise iphone 3gs goes kaput after 6hrs of usage. haha. not counting standby time.
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FYI i have some startling discoveries on my iphone 3g OS 3.0.

Battery life goes from 100% to 0 in 12 hours with no wi fi usage some calls and sms on this settings:-

Push - off
3g - off
wi fi - off
location services - off

But this is my third day with no wi fi usage and just sms and calls with this settings

push - on
3g - off
wi fi- on
location services - on

Now i really wonder why. *shrugs*
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QUOTE(wassap @ Aug 27 2009, 03:01 PM)
FYI i have some startling discoveries on my iphone 3g OS 3.0.

Battery life goes from 100% to 0 in 12 hours with no wi fi usage some calls and sms on this settings:-

Push - off
3g - off
wi fi - off
location services - off

But this is my third day with no wi fi usage and just sms and calls with this settings

push - on
3g - off
wi fi- on
location services - on

Now i really wonder why. *shrugs*
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Have you tried restoring it as a "new" phone?

I tried that, solved my problems. Well not solved, but allows my iPhone to live up to 2 days without charging. But now that I'm playing games on it....
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QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Aug 27 2009, 11:19 AM)
my 3GS can last for 3 - 4 days. Normal call & sms usage. A bit of wifi usage. That's all.
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wow...pretty good though....mind to share ur setting.....

i found out this thread...can help iphone/ipod user to make their iphone free more memory and a bit less drain the battery...i have try it....do it at ur risk k...because u need to play with plist files...so follow the intrustion properly.
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224341

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QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Aug 27 2009, 11:19 AM)
my 3GS can last for 3 - 4 days. Normal call & sms usage. A bit of wifi usage. That's all.
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wow.. tat's really good.... how often do u call n sms in a day??
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Aug 27 2009, 03:03 PM)
Have you tried restoring it as a "new" phone?

I tried that, solved my problems. Well not solved, but allows my iPhone to live up to 2 days without charging. But now that I'm playing games on it....
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tried everything but cant get past half a day at most 1 day without calls and sms with my old settings. with new settings i can easily get 2 days minimum.
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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Aug 27 2009, 02:11 PM)
dats very unbelievable. coz ive never seen any 3gs go beyond 2 days unless ur fone is on standby mode for bout 90% of the time. i realise iphone 3gs goes kaput after 6hrs of usage. haha. not counting standby time.
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maybe ur 3gs is defect unit.. my 3gs battery can last long for 2 days standby and 7hrs of usage(games, app, safari+3G, wifi, mail, map+3G, sms, call). My standby time 1% batt = 2.5-3hrs..

This is my initial battery charging..

#1 - Buy the iPhone 3G. Do not use the iPhone 3G.
#2 - Initially charge your iPhone for 3 hours. I've read conflicting statements about this. To be safe, don't use your phone before letting it charge for 3 hours. Also, use your wall charger (avoid the computer charger).
#3 - Now it's time to calibrate your battery indicator. Let the iPhone's battery fully drain. Keep the iPhone off for five hours once drained, then fully charge your battery. Allow the battery to rest in the fully charged state for two hours. You may use your iPhone during this time as long as the iPhone is plugged in.
#4 - Repeat step #3 a maximum of three times if you feel your battery indicator is inaccurate.

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for Everyday Charging i always let the 3gs batt fully drain by it self.. (standby at 5% batt and let the phone fully drain, at this point u can see the % will goes up and down and goes up again..) and i use wall charger..

i am using OS 3.01

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As for mine, it can last for 3 days and a few hours max with 4 hours plus of usage.
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Ermm.. Can I ask whether it's bad for the iPhone's battery to charge overnight? Cause I often do that and am wondering whether it would affect the battery life in the future?
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Ermm.. Can I ask whether it's bad for the iPhone's battery to charge overnight? Cause I often do that and am wondering whether it would affect the battery life in the future?
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don't think it's a problem. the phone will use power str8 from the electric socket once the battery is full. there's no risk of overcharging.
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Update:

I found that if the signal is stronger, the battery life improves dramatically. I switched out my sim card today to a different carrier and my battery life was back to normal.
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QUOTE(Jon Cache @ Aug 28 2009, 08:06 AM)
Update:

I found that if the signal is stronger, the battery life improves dramatically. I switched out my sim card today to a different carrier and my battery life was back to normal.
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That's not likely. Even with Airplane mode on for the whole time, it still drains at the same rate with the same usage.
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QUOTE(Jon Cache @ Aug 28 2009, 08:06 AM)
Update:

I found that if the signal is stronger, the battery life improves dramatically. I switched out my sim card today to a different carrier and my battery life was back to normal.
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It is plausible because the phone does not have to 'exert' to maintain connection and thus conserve some energy although I might add that the difference should not be as dramatic as you described it to be.
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QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Aug 27 2009, 11:19 AM)
my 3GS can last for 3 - 4 days. Normal call & sms usage. A bit of wifi usage. That's all.
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thats some quote there. mind sharing ur setting & charging pattern. thx
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it is a well accepted fact, that if you are within a relatively weak network coverage, the phone (not just the iPhone) has to "work harder" to amplify the signal.

it is a phone afterall, and doing what it was designed for, in the first place.

however there is a tip (conducted by myself and hence has no whatever scientific results to back me up) is to turn off the 3G toggle perpetually.

twittering, chatting, e-mailing in general, work pretty decently with EDGE (and even GPRS). only when i need to use safari, the 3G comes up.

you will be surprised at the power conservation with this simple maneuver. however, if you procrastinate about being troublesome et cetera, then there is nothing much that can be done i suppose...
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QUOTE(HuorEarfalas @ Aug 28 2009, 02:16 PM)
That's not likely. Even with Airplane mode on for the whole time, it still drains at the same rate with the same usage.
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It IS possible. Its like having to shout louder to someone far away as oppose to talking to someone just beside you. It is a very logical theory.
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QUOTE(Jon Cache @ Aug 28 2009, 07:09 PM)
It IS possible. Its like having to shout louder to someone far away as oppose to talking to someone just beside you. It is a very logical theory.
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I guess. But it still doesn't help a lot in battery saving.

P.S. I'm getting way too much fingerprints and markings on my screen. The new protective screen doesn't seem to last long. Anyone has the same issue?

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if 3gs....they have improve screen with a new coating. but it doesnt mean tak kotor with fingerprint at all....but less fingerprint and marking on the screen. also easy to clean with a single wipe. u can use anti glare screen protector for less fingerprint....
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my i3gs normally can last around 1-2 days. I play it quite heavily and charge everynight through usb port.

Anyway, after turning on push feature due to playing some online game, mafia wars, vampire live, kingdoms and so on, I turned on the push notifications without knowing the adverse effects. True enough, the battery drain started. The phone's power went totally drained and was hot even without turning it in off mode.

100% to 20% only lasted around few hours.

After doing some reading, I have turned off location finder and push. Hope that batt life will go back to normal.
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QUOTE(wassap @ Aug 27 2009, 11:14 PM)
don't think it's a problem. the phone will use power str8 from the electric socket once the battery is full. there's no risk of overcharging.
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I heard about this also from a friend. But do you know for a fact or you just guess? Because there is no indication about this in the manual. Just curious.


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Yup me too. Only switch on 3G for browsing on safari or youtube. Only switch on wifi for downloading updates.

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I turn Location Services On, Push, and 3G on. My battery can last me for at least 1.5 days. It used to suck, but changing the carrier solved it for me.

Anyway, you can leave the iPhone charged for as long as 1-4 days. The battery doesn't overcharge. This is why all the speakers for iPods and iPhones provide charging capability, so they can sit there for a long time.
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Seems like theres no real solution on the battery issue and overheating issue on 3.0 FW. Ridiculously going down 1% for 5minutes (overheating)
Finger crossed before my phone going kaploded, im going back to 2.2.1.

First gen user here.
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just waiting for os 3.1..hope this issue fixed.
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just waiting for os 3.1..hope this issue fixed.
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no battery drain issue? how long ur battery can last?
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QUOTE(Shock @ Jul 5 2009, 03:09 PM)
I have no problem with the  battery. I can last 5 days b4 it totaly drain off.

Why not You try 2 suggestion i give?

1) Backup all the contact etc manually (can find the method in pinned topic) and restore the phone. afterthat START the iphone as new phone (DO NOT restore from backup). and close all the push mail notice.

2)check the push mail notice and set all to manually and OFF
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5 days is impossible on my 3G S.

Seriously,
your phone won't even last for a day, if you

- make calls
- SMS
- email
- iPod (1 hour)
- Safari (1 hour)
- read news (NY times, AP mobile, ESPN, Eurosport)
- play games for a while (Bejeweled, Pinball, TTR 2)
- Facebook, Twitter, FML
- Dictionary

I end up with my phone having around 20% every evening.
The same thing happens on my friend's 3GS as well.
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He probably doesn't use his phone as heavily as us which explains the long standby time versus usage time.

Anyhow, I wonder why would ppl always wait till their battery is flat before charging? It wastes a cycle of the battery life.
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QUOTE(Jon Cache @ Aug 30 2009, 11:30 PM)
He probably doesn't use his phone as heavily as us which explains the long standby time versus usage time.

Anyhow, I wonder why would ppl always wait till their battery is flat before charging? It wastes a cycle of the battery life.
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Because I don't bring my charger out? Hmm...

Anyway I heard that there's a charger-like mini-device for iPhone/iTouch
where you can use its battery when you connect it to your iPhone

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QUOTE(fuiyo @ Aug 30 2009, 10:22 PM)
5 days is impossible on my 3G S.

Seriously,
your phone won't even last for a day, if you

- make calls
- SMS
- email
- iPod (1 hour)
- Safari (1 hour)
- read news (NY times, AP mobile, ESPN, Eurosport)
- play games for a while (Bejeweled, Pinball, TTR 2)
- Facebook, Twitter, FML
- Dictionary

I end up with my phone having around 20% every evening.
The same thing happens on my friend's 3GS as well.
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lolz. i was charge my iphone twice in 1 day. tongue.gif use a lot for sms'ing email'ing

sorry for off topic, anyone use after market car charger for iphone?? izzit recommend to use? or any brand is good to use?? thanks.
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QUOTE(Jon Cache @ Aug 30 2009, 11:30 PM)
He probably doesn't use his phone as heavily as us which explains the long standby time versus usage time.

Anyhow, I wonder why would ppl always wait till their battery is flat before charging? It wastes a cycle of the battery life.
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it's never a waste of cycle. if say u r a heavy user, and u have used ur phone till its battery shows 50% and u charge it till 100% and again u use it till it shows 50% and u charge another time to 100%. this is equivalent to using the phone till it goes flat and charge it till 100%. both are considered as one cycle. i believe it's explained in the iphone online manual.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 31 2009, 07:25 AM)
it's never a waste of cycle. if say u r a heavy user, and u have used ur phone till its battery shows 50% and u charge it till 100% and again u use it till it shows 50% and u charge another time to 100%. this is equivalent to using the phone till it goes flat and charge it till 100%. both are considered as one cycle. i believe it's explained in the iphone online manual.
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Exactly.
Assume a person uses merely 30% of his iPhone's battery everyday.
He will need to charge like thrice to complete one cycle.
That is, 3 days?

Also, the manual stated that the battery life will fall to 80% after 300/500 charge cycles (If not mistaken)
So if a person consistently uses 1 charge cycle everyday,
His battery will start deteriorating after hmm, a year or two?

Its time for an iPhone 3G SS then. LOL.

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Aug 31 2009, 07:25 AM)
it's never a waste of cycle. if say u r a heavy user, and u have used ur phone till its battery shows 50% and u charge it till 100% and again u use it till it shows 50% and u charge another time to 100%. this is equivalent to using the phone till it goes flat and charge it till 100%. both are considered as one cycle. i believe it's explained in the iphone online manual.
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Thats exactly what I meant what. But so many people are waiting till its empty before charging. It would waste a cycle cos they get the chance to charge but they dont

http://www.apple.com/batteries/

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i notice when im using YahooMessenger(with push off)..the battery drop like crazy..lol
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i just upgrade my iphone on FW 3.0
realise that the battery drain quickly...
so..
can i downgrade to FW 2.2.1?
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QUOTE(cool_evo7 @ Aug 31 2009, 08:28 PM)
i just upgrade my iphone on FW 3.0
realise that the battery drain quickly...
so..
can i downgrade to FW 2.2.1?
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It makes no difference on old iPhones
the reason why new 3G S are facing short battery lives are because they are new
After using for some time it will be better.

The same thing happens to my iPhone 2G.
And now its standby time is like damn long!
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QUOTE(fuiyo @ Aug 31 2009, 09:29 PM)
the reason why new 3G S are facing short battery lives are because they are new
After using for some time it will be better.
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That can't be right. We don't hear many stories of new iPods having problems like that do we? Nor the new Macs. It can't be just because they are new.
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just got my iphone.... used for around 8 hours and have standy by time of 1 day 18 hours... then need to recharge le....

is that OK or not huh?
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QUOTE(fuiyo @ Aug 31 2009, 09:29 PM)
It makes no difference on old iPhones
the reason why new 3G S are facing short battery lives are because they are new
After using for some time it will be better.

The same thing happens to my iPhone 2G.
And now its standby time is like damn long!
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so just leave it?
if downgrade my iphone 2G to 2.2.1 from 3.0 would it be any problem?
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QUOTE(Jon Cache @ Aug 31 2009, 10:34 PM)
That can't be right. We don't hear many stories of new iPods having problems like that do we? Nor the new Macs. It can't be just because they are new.
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It would be perfect on an iPod or a Mac.
iPhone's overhead is higher as it has the phone functionality.
I can't confirm about this.
But this is what I learnt from my previous iPhone.

When you first get your phone,
Try charging it full and using the battery completely and full charge it again
I saw this in other forums where they call this battery recalibrating
But we shouldn't repeat this method too often,
Just once in a few months.


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QUOTE(cool_evo7 @ Aug 31 2009, 11:18 PM)
so just leave it?
if downgrade my iphone 2G to 2.2.1 from 3.0 would it be any problem?
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Leave it since 2.2.1 may not have some features that you need?

2.2.1 and 3.0 doesnt differ a lot in the battery consumption,
Unless push notification is enabled.


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QUOTE(TheUrbNorm @ Aug 31 2009, 11:01 PM)
just got my iphone.... used for around 8 hours and have standy by time of 1 day 18 hours... then need to recharge le....

is that OK or not huh?
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No one but yourself know how much have you used in this 8 hours.
If you just make a few calls and SMSs without using any other apps
And you need to recharge after 8 hours then its not okay.

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QUOTE(fuiyo @ Aug 30 2009, 10:22 PM)
5 days is impossible on my 3G S.

Seriously,
your phone won't even last for a day, if you

- make calls
- SMS
- email
- iPod (1 hour)
- Safari (1 hour)
- read news (NY times, AP mobile, ESPN, Eurosport)
- play games for a while (Bejeweled, Pinball, TTR 2)
- Facebook, Twitter, FML
- Dictionary

I end up with my phone having around 20% every evening.
The same thing happens on my friend's 3GS as well.
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same here. batt is horrible.. batt on 3.0.1 for me is pretty bad compared to 3.0. d batt takes a massive hit wen im on IM+ and Text twister. lolz. usage of 6hrs wit 1.2days of standby is d longest d batt lasted. n this is with push, 3g and locations turned off. by nite time ill have around 25% batt.
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o...i see...
so....
how to disable the push notification?
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o...i see...
so....
how to disable the push notification?
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Settings > Notifications > OFF
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I need your help..I just bought iphone and it was working...In midst of charging it, i try to on it but only show white screen...can anyone help me..:|
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Sep 2 2009, 08:23 PM)
I need your help..I just bought iphone and it was working...In midst of charging it, i try to on it but only show white screen...can anyone help me..:|
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what steps have you taken?


Added on September 2, 2009, 8:44 pmcan your iTunes detect your iPhone?

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Sep 2 2009, 08:43 PM)
what steps have you taken?


Added on September 2, 2009, 8:44 pmcan your iTunes detect your iPhone?
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I trying now..but i always see white screen...it is sleep mode? how to activate the sleep mode back?
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Sep 2 2009, 08:51 PM)
I trying now..but i always see white screen...it is sleep mode? how to activate the sleep mode back?
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iPhone's "sleep" mode is dark.

the only time that i could recall a white screen, are the subsequently steps later, of the iPhone going into DFU.

the white screen is certainly not normal.

if all fails, you might have to restore (and then use the backup) unfortunately
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Sep 2 2009, 09:01 PM)
iPhone's "sleep" mode is dark.

the only time that i could recall a white screen, are the subsequently steps later, of the iPhone going into DFU.

the white screen is certainly not normal.

if all fails, you might have to restore (and then use the backup) unfortunately
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I found this at iphone and it work..

Does iPhone appear frozen or stuck? To reset iPhone, press and hold the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button at the same time for at least 10 seconds. During this time, a red "power off" slider may appear and the screen may go black, but do not release Sleep/Wake and Home buttons until the Apple logo appears.


Want to ask.

Can we charge through laptop?
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Sep 2 2009, 09:13 PM)
I found this at iphone and it work..

Does iPhone appear frozen or stuck? To reset iPhone, press and hold the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button at the same time for at least 10 seconds. During this time, a red "power off" slider may appear and the screen may go black, but do not release Sleep/Wake and Home buttons until the Apple logo appears.
Want to ask.

Can we charge through laptop?
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why not? however the USB port on the computer typically provides an unstable flow of current, and hence the longer charge time.

and there have been some debates previously, as there are known cases, in which dodgy USB ports have fried devices, such as thumbdrives et cetera

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Sep 2 2009, 09:25 PM)
why not? however the USB port on the computer typically provides an unstable flow of current, and hence the longer charge time.

and there have been some debates previously, as there are known cases, in which dodgy USB ports have fried devices, such as thumbdrives et cetera
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Well they aren't exactly unstable just that the USB protocol only permits laptop/PC USB ports to supply up to 500mA at 5V (bus powered). Some are even lower due to the components and power distribution IC used. Unless one's laptop/PC has a powered USB port (self powered, with larger distribution of power) in which they can discharge up to 1000mA at 5V. So assuming you're using a standard USB port, charging at 500mA will take almost 2x as long when compared to using the provided charger/adapter. The adapter supplies up to 1000mA (or 1A) at 5V.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 2 2009, 10:23 PM)
Well they aren't exactly unstable just that the USB protocol only permits laptop/PC USB ports to supply up to 500mA at 5V (bus powered). Some are even lower due to the components and power distribution IC used. Unless one's laptop/PC has a powered USB port (self powered, with larger distribution of power) in which they can discharge up to 1000mA at 5V. So assuming you're using a standard USB port, charging at 500mA will take almost 2x as long when compared to using the provided charger/adapter. The adapter supplies up to 1000mA (or 1A) at 5V.
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i believe the 'unstable current' meant by nokia is based on cases of iPhone users with faulty comm board due to USB charging whereby the USB port used (which might be faulty) provides unstable current flow thus causing damage to the phone, not the difference in mA between the USB protocol and normal adapter/charger.

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Sep 2 2009, 10:40 PM)
i believe the 'unstable current' meant by nokia is based on cases of iPhone users with faulty comm board due to USB charging whereby the USB port used (which might be faulty) provides unstable current flow thus causing damage to the phone, not the difference in mA between the USB protocol and normal adapter/charger.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Sep 2 2009, 09:25 PM)
why not? however the USB port on the computer typically provides an unstable flow of current, and hence the longer charge time.

and there have been some debates previously, as there are known cases, in which dodgy USB ports have fried devices, such as thumbdrives et cetera
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i2G with fw 3.0.1

this morning battery life still remain 66%

after some wifi + install games from app store + sms + browse here n there.

now left 20%

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i've made full restore and backup manually(without itunes only iphonebrowser) and i have limit installed JB apps in my phone(install the only that i used most...less deamon and mobilesubstrate used)....off notification....off 3G and off EDGE. usage is 8 hours and standby 2 days+ before full drain....improved alots than before.....i played alive4ever...cooking mama...online games Kingdoms...some sygic (GPS apps)....a lot off sms(bitesms)...and 10minutes of calls

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can u printscreen yr springboard, kebeckham7?

i think i need to restore again.

make a call and drop 5% battery. swt.
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mine use 5 hours 49 mins and standby 21 hours 30 mins still got 40% left
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Im facing a weird problem here..

Im using FW 3.0, I did turned off auto fetch email.But my iPhone will automatically fetch emails even I ald turned it off! The battery drain very fast even in standby mode, 12pm fully charged, now 5.56 left 36%
help~~~~
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QUOTE(BigBig @ Sep 5 2009, 05:56 PM)
Im facing a weird problem here..

Im using FW 3.0, I did turned off auto fetch email.But my iPhone will automatically fetch emails even I ald turned it off! The battery drain very fast even in standby mode, 12pm fully charged, now 5.56 left 36%
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Yes! It happened to me too! I have properly disabled all the 'pushes' for the email accounts I have on iPhone and also set the fetch method to manual. My battery life is consistent to any iPhone that has disabled 'push email'. However, once in awhile it'll refresh my email accounts and I get a notification. Thats weird.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 5 2009, 06:36 PM)
Yes! It happened to me too! I have properly disabled all the 'pushes' for the email accounts I have on iPhone and also set the fetch method to manual. My battery life is consistent to any iPhone that has disabled 'push email'. However, once in awhile it'll refresh my email accounts and I get a notification. Thats weird.
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Same thing happening to me also. I disabled everything, push notification, manually fetch data and even turn all my mail accounts to inactive mode. Even with that, I can still see the mobilemail running using memory status application. Anyone has explanation on this? My battery can only last for about a day with about 4 to 5 hours of usage.
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after remove ativeatemms2g, now my iphone battery can last longer .. lol
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I need your help..I just bought iphone and it was working...In midst of charging it, i try to on it but only show white screen...can anyone help me..:|
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arsenal,

samething happen to me. posted question here but no solution yet.

white screen only happen when u resume from sleep mode by pressing the Home button. If u press the sleep/wake button (top right of phone), no such problem. so if u hung at the white screen, just press the sleep/wake button to off and on again. no big deal.

thought it was wallpaper problem. tried changing other wallpaper, same problem.

My colleague whose using ip2G say it's common issue. but i dont see it common in this forum... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(ah_fui @ Sep 6 2009, 10:09 AM)
after remove ativeatemms2g, now my iphone battery can last longer .. lol
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This method is not works on me cry.gif

1hour usage 15hours 49mins stand by, my battery left 49% oni...


Added on September 7, 2009, 8:15 amGOSH!!!!
1hour 5mins usage and 1day 0 hour standy, my battery left 9%
40% drainned in standby mode when i sleeping...
When i check what is running at the background, Mail and iPod automatic run again!!
rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(BigBig @ Sep 6 2009, 11:00 PM)
This method is not works on me cry.gif

1hour usage 15hours 49mins stand by, my battery left 49% oni...


Added on September 7, 2009, 8:15 amGOSH!!!!
1hour 5mins usage and 1day 0 hour standy, my battery left 9%
40% drainned in standby mode when i sleeping...
When i check what is running at the background, Mail and iPod automatic run again!!
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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u can try to kill the process before u go to bed....or u can make a full restore to ur phone with manually backup ur data....dun restore data using itunes sync....try and see whether ur phone still draining the battery

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You guys can try and close your email account I'm settings when you are using
the email .

It will close the mail box
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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Sep 7 2009, 12:25 PM)
u can try to kill the process before u go to bed....or u can make a full restore to ur phone with manually backup ur data....dun restore data using itunes sync....try and see whether ur phone still draining the battery
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I did killed all the processes like email, safari and ipod before I go to bed, and I also put my email account to inactive dy..The weird thing is, when i woke up, I saw my battery and i check the process again, Email and iPod automatic started while i was sleeping rclxub.gif

Yes, i will try to restore the Phone later~
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i still wonder if my batt will drain quickly if i update the Firmware to 3.0.1 on my 3Gs

currently usage is 2h 58min and standby 1d 5h with 38% left
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QUOTE(vixxiee @ Sep 8 2009, 01:24 PM)
i still wonder if my batt will drain quickly if i update the Firmware to 3.0.1 on my 3Gs

currently usage is 2h 58min and standby 1d 5h with 38% left
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ermm...it's depends on how u setting and restore ur phone......if u want to update...i think it will be the same result as 3.0 or worse...so...u can google around iphone lyn thread to search within update FW...ihave done mine...and it's can last until 6 - 8 hours of usage time and 2days standby time
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Anyone have any solution, that iphone 3g can't be charge? both laptop or from charger
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QUOTE(kw87 @ Sep 9 2009, 06:43 PM)
Anyone have any solution, that iphone 3g can't be charge? both laptop or from charger
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Personal experience:

1. Battery drains super fast (less than 8 hours standby)

2. People couldn't get thru.

3. Iphone super hot.

All the problem i have above, is after jailbreak my i3g and with lots of application.
I took out my sim and leave it there for a day.
The battery are normal, but when i put my sim card back on, the battery drain like water again.
It might be the network setting, i don't know....

My solution is, restore my i3g as new without jailbreak and only with itunes application.
After i restore as new, all the battery problem solved.
i do understand jailbreak helps and hope the 3.1 Firmware will solve the battery problem.

Hope it will help.

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Hmmm.

I did not jailbreak my phone. I use it for a LOT of sales calls, in one day roughly 5 - 6 hours usage and maybe once in a while 3G is turned on to use the Maps feature to find my way around a new area.

So far, my phone needs a recharge every 2nd day. By the 2nd day, it's hovering about 9% - 11% thereabouts.

I have turned off location service, 3g, emails etc. I only turn them on when required. smile.gif
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QUOTE(vanimon @ Sep 10 2009, 10:10 PM)
Hmmm.

I did not jailbreak my phone. I use it for a LOT of sales calls, in one day roughly 5 - 6 hours usage and maybe once in a while 3G is turned on to use the Maps feature to find my way around a new area.

So far, my phone needs a recharge every 2nd day. By the 2nd day, it's hovering about 9% - 11% thereabouts.

I have turned off location service, 3g, emails etc. I only turn them on when required. smile.gif
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wow.. I thought that's really good battery life? 2 days with total of 10-12 hours talk time.. That's really quite good.. I dun think I ever have usage of even 7 hours each charge..
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i just fully charged 100% then i reboot my iphone....
after the reboot i realise that the battery drop 7% within 1 minutes...
so weird...

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My longest record.
Standby: 5 days, 5 hours.
Usage: 4 hours plus.
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QUOTE(cool_evo7 @ Sep 11 2009, 02:34 PM)
i just fully charged 100% then i reboot my iphone....
after the reboot i realise that the battery drop 7% within 1 minutes...
so weird...
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Hmm.. Did you unplug immediately after full charging ur phone?
Actually the battery percentage on the iPhone is not that accurate in truth...
it's not necessary full eventhough the percentage says so, so what I always do is continue charging for a while more even when it has reached 100%..
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this is what i do when charging....

if it hit 100%, just let it charged for 1/2 hour more... dont worry.. ur batt wont explode....

my 100% last longer doing this method....
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agree, i feel the same way too biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Sep 11 2009, 06:31 PM)
this is what i do when charging....

if it hit 100%, just let it charged for 1/2 hour more... dont worry.. ur batt wont explode....

my 100% last longer doing this method....
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my battery seems improve after firmware 3.1 update. or maybe it's just me.
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my friend bought an iphone 3gs 32gb black from maxis...he did jailbreak with either 3.0 and 3.0.1
but he noticed that his iphone drain battery very fast and phone is extremely hot...

100% and go to bed, wake up left 30%...(btw he turned off all the 3G/bluetooth/wifi/etc...)
after that, he tried to remove maxis/digi sim or turn on flight mode and 100% wake up remain 97%...
yesterday he did restore to 3.1 with sim, 100% wake up still remain 99%...

thus, is tis the jailbreak problem or firmware problem?

any pros may helps to solve tis prob? thanks for advance...
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does this apply to itouch who jailbreak to ver 3.0?

does this apply to itouch that jailbreak to ver 3.0 as well?
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yeah.. same feeling. The battery can last longer a bit after upgrade to 3.1
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QUOTE(lucas_lik @ Sep 12 2009, 01:23 PM)
yeah.. same feeling. The battery can last longer a bit after upgrade to 3.1
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Would more ppl who upgraded to 3.1 clarify on this? I've been googling forums regarding battery life on 3.1, all I could see r mixed comment of better and worse...
Regarding standby times, I am on 3.0.1 and would only have 0-1% drained throughout my sleep.. Settings with everything off of course.. So I doubt it's an improvement in 3.1...
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Well i did upgrade to fw 3.1 and i did felt the improvement in terms of batt life. Or perhaps its just a placebo effect hihihi
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urmp...i`m very new in iphone....how i can determine what software running & how to remove all those battery drainer....`

as i remember, there is always a pop up mentioned about this application not for iphone xxxxx(cant remember full text but it`s like indicate some application running behind...how i`m going to check it?) sad.gif

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This just happened to me half an hour ago. Fully charged to 100%. then surf for 20mins and the battery dropped to 75%. Then suddenly I noticed it went back up to 85%. Anyway mine seems to be draining faster today I noticed. Mine everything is on except push and notification.
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same as me.. iphone battery drain like drinking water awhile then need to change ad.. even i off everything just play game for 20 minute.. then drain almost half de.. omg
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if u play games n safari, ofcorse batt will die fast lar. thats d cons of iphone, it has the functions but battery cant support it. Get ready to buy Morphie Juice Air pack tongue.gif
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With 3.1 I too can see that battery life has improved a little. Anyways I always switch off my 3G completely unless I am outstation or something and also switch off Bluetooth when I am not driving. Helps a lot as I am able to get home most days with about 20-25% battery life left.

Mind you I surf, facebook and play games a lot throughout the day especially lunch time.. LOL!
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sorry off topic.
but to me this 3g is really battery killer. when i use my non-iphone phone with 3g on all the time, used to get only 2 days before charge. but without 3g, i mean only gsm, i can get 3 days.
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QUOTE(^prion^ @ Sep 14 2009, 08:23 PM)
sorry off topic.
but to me this 3g is really battery killer. when i use my non-iphone phone with 3g on all the time, used to get only 2 days before charge. but without 3g, i mean only gsm, i can get 3 days.
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guys, my iphone 3GS 16gb battery drain like waterfall .....i charged full at nite then in the morning it turns 50% ...wtf ....

now i already closed my 3G/push notification/fetch data off/ still din really improve the battery life ..i also have updated to 3.1 firmware..

anyway, how long can it last for iphone without surfing/gaming...normal answering calls n sms ...???????????????????
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didn't really feel like creating a brand new thread, for something so measly.

so i will just link up that thread here.

i will be most appreciate if you can stipulate your boot up time of 3GS on OS 3.1

thank you so much.

appreciate it a lot
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I turned off the numeric Battery meter. And use the visual green colour bar. I became less paranoid of the battery problem. Happier now. biggrin.gif
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I'm currently using 3Gs, i charged up to 100%, when i woke up after the night. The battery drained down to 7% .

This is quick...
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Hey guys, the battery life of iPhone is probably around 1 day or less. Is this normal? I don't play a lot of games on the phone, maybe for a while when I'm bored . Sometimes use 3G to do some surfing on the net. I feel it's a lil bit tedious to charge the phone everyday. Mayb because i'm that laZy.. Hehe.. Just wanna know what the normal battery life for the phone. Btw, when I took the phone out of the box , I did not charge the phone for 8 hours as advised by the maxis people. I think just charge it around 4 hours on the first day. Will this affect the battery performance? Thanks for the help smile.gif
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QUOTE(danni_boy @ Sep 23 2009, 11:32 AM)
Hey guys, the battery life of iPhone is probably around 1 day or less. Is this normal? I don't play a lot of games on the phone, maybe for a while when I'm bored . Sometimes use 3G to do some surfing on the net. I feel it's a lil bit tedious to charge the phone everyday. Mayb because i'm that laZy.. Hehe.. Just wanna know what the normal battery life for the phone. Btw, when I took the phone out of the box , I did not charge the phone for 8 hours as advised by the maxis people. I think just charge it around 4 hours on the first day. Will this affect the battery performance? Thanks for the help smile.gif
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my iphone as well ..can last about 1 day only ..u go itunes apps store and download the "Battery Magic" ..it will show ur iphone duration on 3D game play, talk time..3G internet surfing...wifi internet surfing..ipod audio playback n standby time ..quite usefull
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QUOTE(DrOzzz @ Sep 23 2009, 11:38 AM)
my iphone as well ..can last about 1 day only ..u go itunes apps store and download the "Battery Magic" ..it will show ur iphone duration on 3D game play, talk time..3G internet surfing...wifi internet surfing..ipod audio playback n standby time ..quite usefull
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well i just upgraded to OS 3.1.. everything solved.. been heavily using my phone for 50 hours.. battery still half lol.. so happy now. no need worry bout charging
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QUOTE(sakak @ Sep 23 2009, 12:41 PM)
well i just upgraded to OS 3.1.. everything solved.. been heavily using my phone for 50 hours.. battery still half lol.. so happy now. no need worry bout charging
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Thanks guys.. I hope this will solve the battery issue .. smile.gif
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cool.. Will upgrade to 3.1 as soon as I reach home..
Thanks guys.. I hope this will solve the battery issue .. smile.gif
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HOLD YOUR HORSES.

Pls go to official apple forum b4 u update:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1333

As of writing, already 58 pages of comments posted screwing 3.1 for killing battery life, and increasing.
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he must be joking ..unless u dun use ur iphone n leave it aside on standby mode ...
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with PUSH + wifi = last me 10hrs most on FW3.1
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Hi all, i have read through some forumer reply on apple support discussion thread & lol'ed. I'm also one of the victim!~ just owned Iphone 3G for 2 days already had these battery draining issue.

my 3 years old zitron's nokia 6630 will retained it's battery w/o charged optimum 3~4 days, under normal usage. still using the same originally bought battery (e.g; texting, mms, call)

while my Iphone only had less than 24 hours before bettery is out. (same usage; texting msg, call)

anyone knows, actual battery duration for iphone under normal used?

Kindly advise
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bro...not fair to compare to a nokia 6630

should as least compare to a PDA

to me as long as can last me 1 whole day when i m out (12-14hrs)

that's fairly good smile.gif
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I've tested it in sleep mode from 2:30am to 7:30am just drop 5% of battery. Running on maxis stock setting firmware 3.01
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QUOTE(viosowner @ Sep 23 2009, 09:38 PM)
Danni boy,

HOLD YOUR HORSES.

Pls go to official apple forum b4 u update:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1333

As of writing, already 58 pages of comments posted screwing 3.1 for killing battery life, and increasing.
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mine after upgrade 3.1, also same....battery can last only 1 day...just few calls, more sms, and proabably less than 20mins games....


Added on September 24, 2009, 12:20 pm
QUOTE(megatron007 @ Sep 23 2009, 11:31 PM)
with PUSH + wifi = last me 10hrs most on FW3.1
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After an experiment about using digi or hotlink in my iPhone 2G, I realized that hotlink is the nightmare for me now..

For Digi:
Usage of 7~8 hours for music, sms, calls and some apps
Standby can be more then 24 hours++
Battery left 40%

For Hotlink:
Usage of 1 hour + for music and sms.
Standby 11 hours.
Battery left 50%

Anyone know what's make hotlink drain battery faster than digi? blush.gif
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my partners and me (4 of us) received our 3Gs last saturday ( 19 sept). Immediately that night, me and my partner ( 2 0f us) upgraded to OS3.1. Have been playing with it during the long raya holidays, so quite a lot of times connected to the computer for Apps downloading. So can't quite tell the stamina of the battery.

Yesterday, 24 sept, in less than 6 days time and it was before noon time, my partner's (upgraded to 3.1) iPhone DIED on him!! can't switch on and just black out right after sending a SMS and he remembered it still has 80% of battery life.

Brought it back to Maxis after lunch. The technician asked the unit to be left with them and they will look at it. in less than 1 hour, got call from Maxis to my partner to return all things that comes with the iPhone (box inclusive) back to them. They replace a brand new unit to him immediately......

After reading all the issues posted in apple's forum, i think 3.1 is the culprit for demise of my partner's phone. and i did notice the extraordinary fast draining of battery of my iphone with 3.1OS.

Now, anyone of you know how can i restore or downgrade my OS back to 3.0? i tried the itunes restore and it didn't work as the OS firmware still maintain 3.1 eventhough the rest of the data can be cleaned.

I saw some webs saying u can restore the phone the new phone setting. Any advice on this?
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QUOTE(BigBig @ Sep 25 2009, 08:13 AM)
After an experiment about using digi  or hotlink in my iPhone 2G, I realized that hotlink is the nightmare for me now..

For Digi:
Usage of 7~8 hours for music, sms, calls and some apps
Standby can be more then 24 hours++
Battery left 40%

For Hotlink:
Usage of 1 hour + for music and sms.
Standby 11 hours.
Battery left 50%

Anyone know what's make hotlink drain battery faster than digi? blush.gif
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It could be explained by 2 factors:

1. Near far phenomenon
A mobile phone near to a cell tower transmit in lesser power than a mobile phone further from a cell tower so that the cell tower receives signals in almost a constant level of power irrespective of the distance those mobile phones are to the cell tower. When your iPhone is using Digi and depletes faster, it could be due to the fact that the Digi cell tower is farther than Maxis. OR the signal quality at your location or whatever cell you crosses to is not as good as Maxis's requiring higher transmission power.

2. Frequency of GSM registration
I believe different networks require the phone to re-register itself to tell those towers that 'I am here' especially when you cross from one cell to the other. The more frequent this is required the more power used. Or if you happen to travel very frequently, you may be crossing cells as we speak.

The point is its hard to do a test/comparison unless you fixed iPhone at a constant location. Checking signal quality by how many bars available is not accurate as the RSSI readings could be lower or higher. Also, putting the phone in your pocket or near your body causes a lot of energy absorption unless you held it in a controlled environment. Which is why all those SAR readings, rate of absorption and Nokia's famous battery performance declaration where performance varies depending on network conditions.

Again, I must agree that v3.0 onwards sucked things up with the introduction of Push Notifications. Something to do with the OS's power management. And we're still not even close to multitasking. A lot of change is required before multitasking is truly implemented again.


QUOTE(cvchua @ Sep 25 2009, 11:13 AM)
my partners and me (4 of us)  received our 3Gs last saturday ( 19 sept). Immediately that night, me and my partner ( 2 0f us)  upgraded to OS3.1. Have been playing with it during the long raya holidays, so quite a lot of times connected to the computer for Apps downloading. So can't quite tell the stamina of the battery.

Yesterday, 24 sept, in less than 6 days time and it was before noon time, my partner's (upgraded to 3.1) iPhone DIED on him!! can't switch on and just black out right after sending a SMS and he remembered it still has 80% of battery life.

Brought it back to Maxis after lunch. The technician asked the unit to be left with them and they will look at it. in less than 1 hour, got call from Maxis to my partner to return all things that comes with the iPhone (box inclusive) back to them. They replace a brand new unit to him immediately......

After reading all the issues posted in apple's forum, i think 3.1 is the culprit for demise of my partner's phone. and i did notice the extraordinary fast draining of battery of my  iphone with 3.1OS.

Now, anyone of you know how can i restore or downgrade my OS back to 3.0? i tried the itunes restore and it didn't work as the OS firmware still maintain 3.1 eventhough the rest of the data can be cleaned.

I saw some webs saying u can restore the phone the new phone setting. Any advice on this?
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Ya, I have a feeling that the iPhone OS v3.1 is the culprit. In fact, the whole v3.0 release isn't bug free at all. I remember Apple is pretty strict in terms of release control at least with bugs. I remember 2.0, 2.2, 2.2.1 is pretty consistent. Then again, 3.0 introduced a lot of complex innovations and progress. Guess its harder this time around.

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i am using iphone 3G, maximum record, usage at 6-7 hours, stand by 2days 10 hours++.

do u guys think this is alright?
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actually, OS 3.1 sort of saved me. I had battery draining issues in OS 3.0.1 (iPhone 3GS) .. the usage counter kept rising eventhough I didn't use it. My phone would be drained to 5% with 9 hours standby time with 7 hours usage time. This is tested when I fully charge my phone before i sleep at night, then wake up to see.

After updating to OS 3.1, no more of such issue. 3 days standby with a few hours of usage is quite a norm now before needing a recharge.
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QUOTE(LanEvo7 @ Sep 25 2009, 05:34 PM)
actually, OS 3.1 sort of saved me. I had battery draining issues in OS 3.0.1 (iPhone 3GS) .. the usage counter kept rising eventhough I didn't use it. My phone would be drained to 5% with 9 hours standby time with 7 hours usage time. This is tested when I fully charge my phone before i sleep at night, then wake up to see.

After updating to OS 3.1, no more of such issue. 3 days standby with a few hours of usage is quite a norm now before needing a recharge.
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some extreme difference of experience with OS3.1. I m testing it tonite to see if it will have the same effect as your. I have restore it 3 times, the last one being a manual restore technic i found on the net and restore it as new phone in hope that the OS firmware would be downgraded to it factory firmware.... but it didn't work that way apparently...

wish me luck...
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QUOTE(LanEvo7 @ Sep 25 2009, 05:34 PM)
actually, OS 3.1 sort of saved me. I had battery draining issues in OS 3.0.1 (iPhone 3GS) .. the usage counter kept rising eventhough I didn't use it. My phone would be drained to 5% with 9 hours standby time with 7 hours usage time. This is tested when I fully charge my phone before i sleep at night, then wake up to see.

After updating to OS 3.1, no more of such issue. 3 days standby with a few hours of usage is quite a norm now before needing a recharge.
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Hmmm if that is the case, why don't everyone who has battery draining problem do a software restore? Find a way to delete the OS file downloaded in temp file and then let iTunes download again. Then do a full restore. Maybe that could help? Its not really troublesome though, just 1+ hours if you have a lot of applications. The restore process is perfect and all settings will be 100% mirrored back into iPhone.
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I had a battery drain issue on my iphone 3G. Then i google around and realise that safari is the culprit, because it say that it is in a loop that drain the battery, that was before 3.1. That time was 3.01. So what they basically tell is to reset the whole iphone as in restart it again not deleting everything.

So if you got battery drain issue and you feel your iphone very hot. Try holding down the home button and the standby button for it to be off and reset all the app from the loop. Wala, after that battery ok already. Back to normal.

Just my own experience
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QUOTE(yswon12 @ Sep 26 2009, 01:01 AM)
I had a battery drain issue on my iphone 3G. Then i google around and realise that safari is the culprit, because it say that it is in a loop that drain the battery, that was before 3.1. That time was 3.01. So what they basically tell is to reset the whole iphone as in restart it again not deleting everything.

So if you got battery drain issue and you feel your iphone very hot. Try holding down the home button and the standby button for it to be off and reset all the app from the loop. Wala, after that battery ok already. Back to normal.

Just my own experience
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Usually I would just clear all the caches from within Safari. Then I would just FreeMemory app to clear/close all applications. By the way, a full restore is equivalent to a reset. Of course a power cycle reset is faster and less hassle.
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Off everything except 3G (push mail, notification, wifi) Battery 100% at 1130pm, went to sleep and left it idle. At 655am, battery level at 98%.


Added on September 26, 2009, 7:51 amafter playing with the iPhone for about 10 mins with safari and WIFI on.... battery is at 92% at 7:10am.... now back to idle and will see how the battery perform...

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if u OFF push and wifi n bt...it can really last longer (FW3.1)
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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Sep 26 2009, 08:44 AM)
if u OFF push and wifi n bt...it can really last longer (FW3.1)
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Agreed. It decrease power consumption especially turning off the Push Notifications and Push Email alone. I think iPhone OS's power management is a little bit weak here.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Sep 26 2009, 09:33 AM)
Agreed. It decrease power consumption especially turning off the Push Notifications and Push Email alone. I think iPhone OS's power management is a little bit weak here.
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ya... such a nice phone yet poor power management makes it dull phone.... (pasal have to off most of the things)... mad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(cvchua @ Sep 26 2009, 12:00 PM)
ya... such a nice phone yet poor power management makes it dull phone.... (pasal have to off most of the things)... mad.gif  mad.gif
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Not only that, the iPhone has a weak battery capacity to begin with. If Apple continue its line of iPhone with this battery, I can only imagine how the battery performance gonna be. Although the ARM Cortex A8 running at 600MHz consumes a lot more energy than the ARM11 core running at 400MHz+, the fact that it can have comparable battery life is due to the CPU going into idle/sleep mode faster and most of the time. The reason why some iPhones are seeing higher consumption is due to a process (I suspect) within the iPhone OS that is preventing the CPU from going to idle/sleep. It could be a function/feature of a program you recently installed or the power management as a whole.

I see two ways to resolve this issue. One is to resolve/optimize the OS's power management system as well as the processes. I believe Apple is going this path because it is allowing selected users to install some battery app that will monitor and provide information to Apple. This is a good way to trace where is the culprit.

Second is to just increase the battery capacity. Its god damn time now. For this reason, I believe the next iPhone will have a much different form factor. It could be bigger or not so slim anymore. It can either achieve this by reducing chip count and thereby reducing PCB area to allow a bigger battery or increase the size of the end device to allow a bigger battery to fit in. Or maybe Apple is banging on some battery magic where we can have a much bigger battery capacity on almost the same size. Probably Apple is also throwing in an ultra efficient higher resolution display (smells AMOLED due to its association with Samsung. Most of its CPU is Samsung anyway). For this, I may regret the 3GS because its ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX is gonna be wasted not having video HD capturing/playback like the Omnia HD. blush.gif

Apple has already refreshed the underlaying platform for the next generation of iPhone (via the introduction of 3GS). So the next refresh will be the form factor. You can almost see the same trend with its other products. Its gonna be a 4 year cycle. First a new form factor, second a refresh of platform/hardware, 3rd another new platform, 4th another refresh of platform/hardware. And the cycle continues.

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If youre concerned by the battery life of your iPhone there are a few things you can do to help it last longer:

* Run your battery down completely at least once a week and recharge it for at least 5 hours. A lot of people think you dont need to do this because the new iPhone uses a li-ion battery but apple claims it keeps the software calibrated and should result in a noticable improvement in battery life.

* Turn off 3G - making calls using 3G uses up more batter power compared to using EDGE.

* Turn off Bluetooth

* Turn Location Services off.

* Turn off PUSH email and set FETCH to 'less often'.

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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Sep 29 2009, 09:46 AM)
If youre concerned by the battery life of your iPhone there are a few things you can do to help it last longer:

* Run your battery down completely at least once a week and recharge it for at least 5 hours. A lot of people think you dont need to do this because the new iPhone uses a li-ion battery but apple claims it keeps the software calibrated and should result in a noticable improvement in battery life.

* Turn off 3G - making calls using 3G uses up more batter power compared to using EDGE.

* Turn off Bluetooth

* Turn Location Services off.

* Turn off PUSH email and set FETCH to 'less often'.
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What is Location Service? is it important?


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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Sep 29 2009, 09:54 AM)
What is Location Service? is it important?
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its just a method the iphone uses to know its location by triangulating radio signals. not particularly useful unless you want your iphone to be a mini heater
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What kind of application will use this location service?
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Sep 29 2009, 10:16 AM)
What kind of application will use this location service?
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compass, maps, gps, qiblah direction n u can figure out the rest ^.^
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Sep 29 2009, 10:04 AM)
its just a method the iphone uses to know its location by triangulating radio signals. not particularly useful unless you want your iphone to be a mini heater
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Yes, and it also involve the activation of the GPS. Turning this off is helpful. So if this service is ON, any programs/apps that rely on location service would access the GPS and triangulation via GSM and WIFI.
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Location Service, how big is the impact to battery life?
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QUOTE(viosowner @ Sep 23 2009, 09:38 PM)
Danni boy,

HOLD YOUR HORSES.

Pls go to official apple forum b4 u update:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1333

As of writing, already 58 pages of comments posted screwing 3.1 for killing battery life, and increasing.
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Well for those ppl who doubt that FW 3.1 reducing battery issue, see my snap shot. These are the 2 diff snap shot where i fully recharged my phone. I am very happy on this. Too bad u guys are still suffering this issue.

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What are you trying to say?

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Well for those ppl who doubt that FW 3.1 reducing battery issue, see my snap shot. These are the 2 diff snap shot where i fully recharged my phone.
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QUOTE(cheonwai @ Oct 1 2009, 09:10 AM)
What are you trying to say?
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there is some ppl doubt on FW 3.1 shows less battery consumption in previous post
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Sakak, what i mean is i don't understand your comparison of the 2 snap shots.
What is conclusion after the comparison? Are you trying to say that the FW3.1
will not causing fast drainage of battery life?

QUOTE(sakak @ Oct 1 2009, 09:13 AM)
there is some ppl doubt on FW 3.1 shows less battery consumption in previous post
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So for the pass few weeks my phone's battery has dropped to red level and off by itself when it was green. What gives? I've been charging it off my laptop because I left my charger in my home town. I'm on 3.1 by the way.

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Sep 30 2009, 08:53 AM)
Location Service, how big is the impact to battery life?
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If you let location service turned on, any program that uses location feature will attempt to use the following location options when executed:

1. GSM/WIFI triangulation
2. GPS

And we all know how draining GPS is. So if you have programs that is location aware and has push notification turned on. It'll attempt to get a location fix, etc. This can be one of the scenario.

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But it won't trigger the location service unless I open an app that requires it right? So if I leave it on won't have impact of battery life right?
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QUOTE(cheonwai @ Oct 1 2009, 10:31 AM)
Sakak, what i mean is i don't understand your comparison of the 2 snap shots.
What is conclusion after the comparison? Are you trying to say that the FW3.1
will not causing fast drainage of battery life?
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oooo there are no comparison between this 2 pictures. they are the same FW 3.1 but different after charging status
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okay. I just got my 3Gs last week so still a noob. Forgive me if I asked stupid question.
2 days back, I charged my Iphone to 100% and go to sleep at 1.30am, woke up at 8.20 realize battery drop 20%, left 80%. The next day I charge it to 100% at night, wake up found out left 96%, sweet huh. The next day I try again, 100% full charged overnight, next day wake up left 80%.
My question here is, how does set up the phone as new phone affect the battery usage? Done some reading online, some claims JB will drain battery faster especially Winterboard. I am sure that I didnt turn on wifi,bluetooth,push notification, and other stuff cz I double check using SBsettings. The only thing I enable is 3G cz i dun like to use back GSM while I am using Iphone "3G" just my own preference for this.

Anybody can advice? Thanks
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 1 2009, 05:17 PM)
But it won't trigger the location service unless I open an app that requires it right? So if I leave it on won't have impact of battery life right?
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I'm just worried of programs that has push notification and require location service. That would automatically trigger GPS.
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QUOTE(Blast_Cyrus @ Oct 2 2009, 12:39 PM)
okay. I just got my 3Gs last week so still a noob. Forgive me if I asked stupid question.
2 days back, I charged my Iphone to 100% and go to sleep at 1.30am, woke up at 8.20 realize battery drop 20%, left 80%. The next day I charge it to 100% at night, wake up found out left 96%, sweet huh. The next day I try again, 100% full charged overnight, next day wake up left 80%.
My question here is, how does set up the phone as new phone affect the battery usage? Done some reading online, some claims JB will drain battery faster especially Winterboard. I am sure that I didnt turn on wifi,bluetooth,push notification, and other stuff cz I double check using SBsettings. The only thing I enable is 3G cz i dun like to use back GSM while I am using Iphone "3G" just my own preference for this.

Anybody can advice? Thanks
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3g is one of the main culprits in battery draining. Based on your story i'm quite sure it's 3g tat caused 20% battery decline, and it could have been worse. i'm not sure y but if you nvr use the internet, it's wise u turn it off and use Edge instead. usually with everything off and edge on, my battery will only decrease 3-5% overnite.

ohya, it's advisable to also completely drain your battery once a month. this comes from the iphone manual i read some where in this forum before.

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Oct 4 2009, 10:10 AM)
3g is one of the main culprits in battery draining. Based on your story i'm quite sure it's 3g tat caused 20% battery decline, and it could have been worse. i'm not sure y but if you nvr use the internet, it's wise u turn it off and use Edge instead. usually with everything off and edge on, my battery will only decrease 3-5% overnite.

ohya, it's advisable to also completely drain your battery once a month. this comes from the iphone manual i read some where in this forum before.
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Are you sure?
i have a 3GS for a week now, firmware 3.1 non-JB and all my setting are off (push,fetch,wifi,bt and etc), and my Aussie Telco only have 3G reception but will roam to non-3G telco automatically if no 3G reception.
100% charged at night, 8 hours standby 98% left in the morning.
You might want to put it in airplane mode when you sleep to isolate and investigate your problem.
Btw GPS really drain the battery, i went for a 20 mins walk to try out the GPS function to my supermarket, 8% gone. Really hardcore battery eater GPS+3G+Screen On+Compass orientation.
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QUOTE(december88 @ Oct 4 2009, 03:33 PM)
Are you sure?
i have a 3GS for a week now, firmware 3.1 non-JB and all my setting are off (push,fetch,wifi,bt and etc), and my Aussie Telco only have 3G reception but will roam to non-3G telco automatically if no 3G reception.
100% charged at night, 8 hours standby 98% left in the morning.
You might want to put it in airplane mode when you sleep to isolate and investigate your problem.
Btw GPS really drain the battery, i went for a 20 mins walk to try out the GPS function to my supermarket, 8% gone. Really hardcore battery eater GPS+3G+Screen On+Compass orientation.
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It's also stated in Iphone manual tat 3g is one of the causes, obviously i din make it up.
i experienced b4 switching on my 3g overnite (or rather forgot to switch it off) with everything else off and still it drained about 15% off.
i notice this problem is particularly obvious (after reading some other posts) when the phone is used in certain countries like msia. dun ask me y. not sure it's hardware or software problem.
this is still a very vague area to discuss actually.
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QUOTE(december88 @ Oct 4 2009, 03:33 PM)
Are you sure?
i have a 3GS for a week now, firmware 3.1 non-JB and all my setting are off (push,fetch,wifi,bt and etc), and my Aussie Telco only have 3G reception but will roam to non-3G telco automatically if no 3G reception.
100% charged at night, 8 hours standby 98% left in the morning.
You might want to put it in airplane mode when you sleep to isolate and investigate your problem.
Btw GPS really drain the battery, i went for a 20 mins walk to try out the GPS function to my supermarket, 8% gone. Really hardcore battery eater GPS+3G+Screen On+Compass orientation.
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even safari browsing via 3G or Wifi is like pain in the @ $ $.... sweat.gif

I wonder how to play 3D games in Iphone when it suck battery badly... The only way is attach mophie juice pack (which is great cause it solve the speaker blocked by hands) or charging it via iphone dock cable.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Oct 4 2009, 07:03 PM)
It's also stated in Iphone manual tat 3g is one of the causes, obviously i din make it up.
i experienced b4 switching on my 3g overnite (or rather forgot to switch it off) with everything else off and still it drained about 15% off.
i notice this problem is particularly obvious (after reading some other posts) when the phone is used in certain countries like msia. dun ask me y. not sure it's hardware or software problem.
this is still a very vague area to discuss actually.
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That's odd. Anyway why don't you disable 3G network when you're sleeping or put in on airplane mode, see the differences vs being on 3G.
Seriously more than 5% gone in standby mode in 3G network is crazy.


QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 4 2009, 09:25 PM)
even safari browsing via 3G or Wifi is like pain in the @ $ $....  sweat.gif

I wonder how to play 3D games in Iphone when it suck battery badly... The only way is attach mophie juice pack (which is great cause it solve the speaker blocked by hands) or charging it via iphone dock cable.
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What can you do, iphone 3GS battery dictates what you can do with the device, Apple should seriously invest in battery technology since they're sitting on almost 30 billion cash reserve.
Usually what i do is that i don't really hardcore play games during the day since i'm at uni, usually occasionally surf the net via wifi or 3G(network's good near my campus >200KB/s download speed), but i try to keep at least >20% battery life before i'm back home to recharge my battery because first it's a phone, and i need that phone for communication purposes.
Play games hardcore when i hook it up to power supply in the evening, i just wish that the usb cable is longer.
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I have try for a week left the phone charging through out the sleeping night.
Today I just realize after 6 hour unplugged batt indicator show 98%.then turn 3G to post this already consume 2%.damn,3G does drain the batt like water
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I have try for a week left the phone charging through out the sleeping night.
Today I just realize after 6 hour unplugged batt indicator show 98%.then turn 3G to post this already consume 2%.damn,3G does drain the batt like water
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Did u turn off other things? Try install SB Settings perhaps? I only use enable 3G these days, today is my 2nd day and now got 30+% left. With some occasionally surfing, games and reading ebook. Those who can read Chinese can go dl an ebook call "The voice of prophecy" for free from itunes. Interesting story hehe. I read 1 chapter everyday during lunch

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mine was battery drain also after JB. then my phone got hot. i notice that it happens only after i install and use ym. after that i remove YM, and my life is happier without it. now i can have longer batery life without YM

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Now im really confused..
Should i upgrade to 3.1 or not?
For a high end phone, the battery life is really bad sad.gif
I think it cant even last the whole day, and im not a heavy user as well..
Luckily the charging doesnt take long..

I there any difference on the battery life if charge using the wall charger and usb?
The only difference so far i know is that, the phone will give u an electric shock while talking+charging using the wall charger.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(danni_boy @ Oct 6 2009, 09:54 AM)
Now im really confused..
Should i upgrade to 3.1 or not?
For a high end phone, the battery life is really bad sad.gif
I think it cant even last the whole day, and im not a heavy user as well..
Luckily the charging doesnt take long..

I there any difference on the battery life if charge using the wall charger and usb?
The only difference so far i know is that, the phone will give u an electric shock while talking+charging using the wall charger.. biggrin.gif
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i thought 3g and 3gs from maxis all come with 3.1 ?
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i thought 3g and 3gs from maxis all come with 3.1 ?
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i was pretty sure that my 3gs collected during 1st oct was 3.0 firmware...
did anyone received their 3gs with 3.0 firmware or did i see wrongly?
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My iphone on 3.0 before, battery drains out just half a day,then i restore back.. quite normal for sometime,can last for 2-3 days..now still back the problem, one charge per day. T_T
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QUOTE(zuiichi @ Oct 7 2009, 09:03 AM)
My iphone on 3.0 before, battery drains out just half a day,then i restore back.. quite normal for sometime,can last for 2-3 days..now still back the problem, one charge per day. T_T
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some part only (dunno got that guide from apple) blush.gif
folow some suggestion from this forum.i forgot which thread/post.
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QUOTE(zuiichi @ Oct 7 2009, 10:07 AM)
some part only (dunno got that guide from apple)  blush.gif 
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I realize one more thing, when I try to browse at a very weak 3G/Wifi signal location, my batteries drain very fast. Not to mention the page took more time than usual to appear.

When I tried the same at a better signal location, the batteries last longer and this make me wonder if signal strength actually contributes to battery's usage?

Anyway, I'm upgrading to 3.1.2 and hopefully I can save some money from getting a car charger.
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my battery life was terrible on the 3GS. I had to charge it twice a day. Frustrated, I took it to the Apple Store in Doncaster. Told them my problems, no questions asked and I got a shiny new 3GS smile.gif...and..the customer service is excellent. Very friendly and helpful people, unlike in Malaysia where you walk to an Apple Centre and the staff are busy playing around with the Macs on display sad.gif
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seem like with fw 3.1.2 fix the battery drain issue.. how about you guys ?
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I updated to 3.1.2 on Sunday
Surfing on 3g battery dropped from 100% to 90 %
in 25 minutes. Is this normal? Was the same I guess when I was
on 3.0.1. Am on 3gs. Cam someone let me know if this is normal or
do I need to do a fresh restore again?

Ok 5 mins more and radio on the background while surfing
now on 84%. That's draining fast

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@hussain
No one can tell you whether it's normal or not. It depends on your usage pattern. You need to remember that energy usage while surfing on 3G depends on the signal strength. The weaker the 3G signal, the more power are used to get the data. It also applies to normal signal and not only for surfing. That's why it's suggested to turn off 3G if the signal is not strong.

It would be abnormal if the battery drains fast if the phone just sitting idle and not running anything.
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Hussain,

I guess we have the same issue. I updated to 3.1.2 and notice that battery drain faster compare to 3.1..

Will collect some data when idle, surfing, gps usage for comparison..
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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Oct 13 2009, 11:49 AM)
@hussain
No one can tell you whether it's normal or not. It depends on your usage pattern. You need to remember that energy usage while surfing on 3G depends on the signal strength. The weaker the 3G signal, the more power are used to get the data. It also applies to normal signal and not only for surfing. That's why it's suggested to turn off 3G if the signal is not strong.

It would be abnormal if the battery drains fast if the phone just sitting idle and not running anything.
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Added on October 15, 2009, 9:15 amOk lets kick this thread off again.3.1.2 is great but drains the battery like crazy,but of course i cant seem to put my phone down so i cant test on standby.Has anyone tested?
Does blackra1n jb and pwnage 3.1.4 jb method effect the juice levels?????

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sure draining???

Mine act normal now....
listen music from 9 til now...100%->98%
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currently using iphone 3gs. i always charge the battery to full before going to bed(1-2am).the next day the % always drop to like 90% (alarm 8am). and after 1-2 hours the battery drop to like 85%, i only check the message once or two times in this period. so is it normal?
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QUOTE(btr999 @ Oct 15 2009, 11:23 AM)
currently using iphone 3gs. i always charge the battery to full before going to bed(1-2am).the next day the % always drop to like 90% (alarm 8am). and after 1-2 hours the battery drop to like 85%, i only check the message once or two times in this period. so is it normal?
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updated to FW3.1.2 yet? try if not...no harm....except if ur phone is JBed
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 15 2009, 11:09 AM)
sure draining???

Mine act normal now....
listen music from 9 til now...100%->98%
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Added on October 15, 2009, 12:25 pm
QUOTE(btr999 @ Oct 15 2009, 11:23 AM)
currently using iphone 3gs. i always charge the battery to full before going to bed(1-2am).the next day the % always drop to like 90% (alarm 8am). and after 1-2 hours the battery drop to like 85%, i only check the message once or two times in this period. so is it normal?
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For your case i am sure some apps are running on the background as it should not lose 10% on standby

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For your case i am sure some apps are running on the background as it should not lose 10% on standby
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how to identify what apps are running on the background? normally after using apps, i just push main menu button back to home screen.
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QUOTE(btr999 @ Oct 15 2009, 12:33 PM)
how to identify what apps are running on the background? normally after using apps, i just push main menu button back to home screen.
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If u are jailbroken u can use sbsettings and under processes u can kill all background apps but if not jailbroken press the power off button until the slide to unlock message pops up then keep pressing home button until back to main screen
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QUOTE(hussain @ Oct 15 2009, 12:39 PM)
If u are jailbroken u can use sbsettings and under processes u can kill all background apps but if not jailbroken press the power off button until the slide to unlock message pops up then keep pressing home button until back to main screen
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i will try that thanks. i hope it works, everytime i unlock, and start using even sending a sms, the battery % will drop 1% then slowly 2-3%, i need to charge every 2 days thats quite frustrating.
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QUOTE(btr999 @ Oct 15 2009, 12:49 PM)
i will try that thanks. i hope it works, everytime i unlock, and start using even sending a sms, the battery % will drop 1% then slowly 2-3%, i need to charge every 2 days thats quite frustrating.
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@btr999,
Every 2 days charge is pretty good, IMO. When I'm travelling on leisure, my iPhone batt lasts sometimes for the entire duration of the trip; of course, I don't answer ALL calls that come in, it's really just put on standby smile.gif
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Hey guys, what do you think of my battery usage? Is this normal?

From 100% charge, after 7hrs 44 mins of standby and 4hrs 31 mins of usage turned (on wifi to access Mafia Wars for a while and to played a few games of TTR3 .. 3G was on for a couple of hours since disconnected from charge.. listening to MP3), the battery is now 67%.
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 15 2009, 03:29 PM)
Hey guys, what do you think of my battery usage? Is this normal?

From 100% charge, after 7hrs 44 mins of standby and 4hrs 31 mins of usage turned (on wifi to access Mafia Wars for a while and to played a few games of TTR3 .. 3G was on for a couple of hours since disconnected from charge.. listening to MP3), the battery is now 67%.
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 15 2009, 03:29 PM)
Hey guys, what do you think of my battery usage? Is this normal?

From 100% charge, after 7hrs 44 mins of standby and 4hrs 31 mins of usage turned (on wifi to access Mafia Wars for a while and to played a few games of TTR3 .. 3G was on for a couple of hours since disconnected from charge.. listening to MP3), the battery is now 67%.
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That sounds great man.Which firmware u using?Did u jb?if so which method?
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Hmm I did a full clean restore to 3.1.2 and then JB'd using blackra1n..

Please note that although I did not turn off 3G earlier, I had used fakeAPN and I've also turned off PUSH etc.

I'm glad to hear that my battery usage is normal. Thanks for the info. thumbup.gif . On a side note.. i'm addicted to my IPhone.
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hello guys, so i tried to charge to full battery and switch off the power and switch on again before i went to bed. i've done all settings i can to save the battery life(3g off, wireless off, push off, location service off, email checking to never, etc). this morning i checked, the battery dropped 5% when i was sleeping - -" (8hrs). i've updated to 3.1.2 as well. so i guess this is abnormal for 5% drain while standby?
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QUOTE(btr999 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:26 AM)
hello guys, so i tried to charge to full battery and switch off the power and switch on again before i went to bed. i've done all settings i can to save the battery life(3g off, wireless off, push off, location service off, email checking to never, etc). this morning i checked, the battery dropped 5% when i was sleeping - -" (8hrs). i've updated to 3.1.2 as well. so i guess this is abnormal for 5% drain while standby?
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I think is considered normal drain. But for me, after 8 hours more of idle sleep. Either is 100% or 99% only. Same setting as yours.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 16 2009, 12:23 PM)
I think is considered normal drain. But for me, after 8 hours more of idle sleep. Either is 100% or 99% only. Same setting as yours.
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Bro, ya phone only consume 1% of power after 8hrs of idle? shocking.gif Ya idle / sleep mod means in air plane mode? Mine even in airplane mod, after 6hrs of idle (i was sleeping) the battery reading were drop 5% in compare wit the figure i checked before i went knock off. Urs is insane. Guess probably its time to play with the charging sequence of my phone battery in order to max out the battery life.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 16 2009, 12:27 PM)
Bro, ya phone only consume 1% of power after 8hrs of idle? shocking.gif Ya idle / sleep mod means in air plane mode? Mine even in airplane mod, after 6hrs of idle (i was sleeping) the battery reading were drop 5% in compare wit the figure i checked before i went knock off. Urs is insane. Guess probably its time to play with the charging sequence of my phone battery in order to max out the battery life.
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Is normal mode. Haven't use airplane mode before. Once or twice I will drain my battery to 5% before fully charge it. This is to maintain good service life of the battery.
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When I on 3G today for GPS Service, my gosh my battery life drops tremendously. Is there any solution to this problem?
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 16 2009, 08:04 PM)
When I on 3G today for GPS Service, my gosh my battery life drops tremendously. Is there any solution to this problem?
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Attach battery pack like incase power slider, mophie juice pack or air version. That's the only solution. If play iPod music battery drain is low unlike browsing or gaming. When screen on, it drains.

Btw I'm on 3.01 firmware. Planning to upgrade to 3.12 soon. Hopefully it will ne stable cause my current firmware is very stable but I can't run buuuk
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really battery so fast finito?
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QUOTE(planb2 @ Oct 17 2009, 06:06 PM)
really battery so fast finito?
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Well if you're surfing or browsing with your iPhone, battery tends to deplete quite fast rclxub.gif
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surfing and browsing is different???
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surfing and browsing is different???
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Surfing using wifi is fine. If use 3 g only battery
will drain.

So far today excellent. From 6am did surfing on
wifi watched inglorious *******
made some calls and SMS
and battery life now says 52%. It's the best result
I have had on an iPhone before. Bottomline
3g and gps will kill the battery
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QUOTE(hussain @ Oct 17 2009, 08:20 PM)
Surfing using wifi is fine. If use 3 g only battery
will drain.

So far today excellent. From 6am did surfing on
wifi watched inglorious *******
made some calls and SMS
and battery life now says 52%. It's the best result
I have had on an iPhone before. Bottomline
3g and gps will kill the battery
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Agreed, somehow it drains battery very fast when you're on GPS service. shakehead.gif
That day I was testing GPS in iPhone and it went dead before I can even reach my destination..
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I found out that Location Service doesn't give an impact on battery life at all. I just turn it on and leave the phone on sleep mode for 8 hours, just drop 1%.
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is the battery indicator from sbsetting is accurate ?
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Oct 17 2009, 08:33 PM)
Agreed, somehow it drains battery very fast when you're on GPS service.  shakehead.gif
That day I was testing GPS in iPhone and it went dead before I can even reach my destination..
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The other day I used it to go to Kuala Selangor and back (about 55 mins to go there and 58 mins back) my battery was about half used, where were you headed? were you using like Google Maps ? It, using 3G to download maps could contribute to your battery drain.
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 17 2009, 09:29 PM)
The other day I used it to go to Kuala Selangor and back (about 55 mins to go there and 58 mins back) my battery was about half used, where were you headed? were you using like Google Maps ? It, using 3G to download maps could contribute to your battery drain.
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Yes, I am using Google Map. You are not using Google Map?  sweat.gif
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But if you think about it, Sygic doesn't use your 3g bandwidth so potentially it saves money in the long run.. especialy when talking about horrific Maxis overuse charges tongue.gif

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@tnsai,
Based on your data usage, it doesn't seem as if you're going to have problems with data charges - U've used not even 10% of your 500MB in your last bill tongue.gif

Anyhow, I'm waiting for TomTom to release theirs but will think twice before I make the plunge since I'm usually the designated driver *grins*
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 18 2009, 12:21 AM)
@tnsai,
Based on your data usage, it doesn't seem as if you're going to have problems with data charges - U've used not even 10% of your 500MB in your last bill tongue.gif

Anyhow, I'm waiting for TomTom to release theirs but will think twice before I make the plunge since I'm usually the designated driver *grins*
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Lol, nahh the real test of usage will come next month the 10th.,,, my last usage is pro-rated from 2nd October. But yeah I think my limit SHOULD retain within 500mb..


The thing is though, I still prefer a proper gps app with ready loaded maps.. I mean for example, in Kuala Selangor I wanted to check on my Mafia Wars, and i couldn't do it since there wasn't ANY signal there for GPRS/EDGE/3G sad.gif.. so no map downloads there ..

I really think for those of us using GPS, we should invest in one of those car holders for IPhones ...

The Belkin TuneCast FM Handsfree looks pretty good.
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@tnsai,
I'm no Mafia War-ian so I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about biggrin.gif Also, as designated driver, I usually have a very good navigator with me; albeit we still depend quite a bit on Google Map; also have a proper GPS but I hated it so gave it away tongue.gif

On holders, just be careful to get one that won't scratch the sides of ur phone. Also, this isn't the right thread to discuss that. Let's just get back to Battery Drain issues smile.gif
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Guys, need some advise here. I had actually done full restore twice for my phone, but still i'm having battery hogged issue. sad.gif I was thinking should I send the phone back to Maxis and for warranty or not.

After a full charged, i was about use the phone for 5hrs (include game, surfing, call, sms, check mail). Standby idle for 18hrs.. Battery left 20%.. Is that consider normal? Had gotten my phone for 1 week, and I have to charge it everyday. doh.gif

My case were:

- 3G is off (on edge all the while, fakeAPN installed)
- Wifi only on when needed
- Ipod is totally untouched (0 song, & movie synced)
- Bluetooth is off all the time
- Push is off (only check my Ping! / email whenever i on wifi connection)

P/s: Just wander, anyone send their 3Gs for warranty before? How long were it takes? And anyone have 1 to 1 exchange on the spot before?

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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 20 2009, 12:58 AM)
Guys, need some advise here. I had actually done full restore twice for my phone, but still i'm having battery hogged issue. sad.gif I was thinking should I send the phone back to Maxis and for warranty or not.

After a full charged, i was about use the phone for 5hrs (include game, surfing, call, sms, check mail). Standby idle for 18hrs.. Battery left 20%.. Is that consider normal? Had gotten my phone for 1 week, and I have to charge it everyday. doh.gif

My case were:

- 3G is off (on edge all the while, fakeAPN installed)
- Wifi only on when needed
- Ipod is totally untouched (0 song, & movie synced)
- Bluetooth is off all the time
- Push is off (only check my Ping! / email whenever i on wifi connection)

P/s: Just wander, anyone send their 3Gs for warranty before? How long were it takes? And anyone have 1 to 1 exchange on the spot before?
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Thats pretty normal. Besides you're only able to use the phone around 3 to 5 hours in a single charge. No matter you're browsing or gaming because the screen size and brightness has taken its toll.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 20 2009, 07:48 AM)
Thats pretty normal. Besides you're only able to use the phone around 3 to 5 hours in a single charge. No matter you're browsing or gaming because the screen size and brightness has taken its toll.
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Hi Jim.. Thanks for ya feedback! Am goin to try again today. Full charge after drained the batt to 5 percent and see how was it. Cause if there is a forumer where his phone can standby for a day ++ with around 3 hour usage.

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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 20 2009, 08:33 AM)
Hi Jim.. Thanks for ya feedback! Am goin to try again today. Full charge after drained the batt to 5 percent and see how was it. Cause if there is a forumer where his phone can standby for a day ++ with around 3 hour usage.
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try follow the 'guide' from Apple

Iphone Battery

basically need turn off many things ... or may be the phone when not in use tongue.gif


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try follow the 'guide' from Apple

Iphone Battery

basically need turn off many things ... or may be the phone when not in use  tongue.gif
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Hey bro.. Thanks for the info again. Indeed.. As u can see from my previous post, i had listed down my configuration on my phone. The phone were act in the way no push, no 3G, wifi only when need, no iPod, no video, Bluetooth is off too. GPS only on twice (the day i collect my phone and try in maxis center, and hand itch tried another at home at the same day). No email fetching as well.. Turn off auto brightness, and set it manually around 30 - 35%. No jail-brake too.. All the apps / games is legal purchased.

Im actually working in a cold environment (server room), and my phone put on the table most of them and the I believe temperature ain't be the problem of causing power loss fast.

P/s: Whats the point of turning the phone when not in use? tongue.gif Powering on the phone is the moment where the battery is been drained most.

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Just want to add guys, (but you probably already know this) when you use apps or play games(especially graphically intensive ones), your IPhone is going to use more juice.. and this is pretty much the same when it comes to any gaming hand held etc.. so don't be panicking when your IPhone battery drains a lil when you play games.. biggrin.gif
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regarding to use usb cable or not, do u guys use usb cable anytime u wish or u just wait until the battery low like 20%. i always use usb cable n afraid it will affect my battery life span.
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Oct 20 2009, 05:33 PM)
regarding to use usb cable or not, do u guys use usb cable anytime u wish or u just wait until the battery low like 20%. i always use usb cable n afraid it will affect my battery life span.
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Actually according to a battery care I read somewhere.. it is a good idea to keep lithiun ion batteries topped up as much as possible.. can't find the link or remember what it is, but I'll post it when I find it.


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jz read more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
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Guidelines for prolonging lithium-ion battery life

    * Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted below their minimum voltage (2.4 to 2.8 V/cell, depending on chemistry). If a lithium-ion battery is stored with too low a charge, there is a risk that the charge will drop below the low-voltage threshold, resulting in an unrecoverable dead battery.[citation needed] Usually this does not instantly damage the battery itself but a charger or device which uses that battery, will refuse to charge a dead battery. The Battery appears to be dead or not existent because the protection circuit disables further discharging and there is zero voltage on the battery terminals.

    * Lithium-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator.[citation needed]
    * Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures.[36]
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
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A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible. Instead, charge the battery more often or use a larger battery. There is no concern of memory when applying unscheduled charges.

Although lithium-ion is memory-free in terms of performance deterioration, batteries with fuel gauges exhibit what engineers refer to as "digital memory". Here is the reason: Short discharges with subsequent recharges do not provide the periodic calibration needed to synchronize the fuel gauge with the battery's state-of-charge. A deliberate full discharge and recharge every 30 charges corrects this problem. Letting the battery run down to the cut-off point in the equipment will do this. If ignored, the fuel gauge will become increasingly less accurate. (Read more in 'Choosing the right battery for portable computing', Part Two.)

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iPhone tends to runs hot during gaming or browsing. I wonder how's the heat going to last the battery lifetime.

Is advisable as what was told by Apple, discharge at least once a month not often.
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Oct 20 2009, 05:48 PM)
Actually according to a battery care I read somewhere.. it is a good idea to keep lithiun ion batteries topped up as much as possible.. can't find the link or remember what it is, but I'll post it when I find it.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 20 2009, 06:14 PM)
Which mean, to keep fully charge battery is recommended to prevent dead battery? Correct me if i'm wrong. Cuz i always plug in suka hati. afraid battery kong. tongue.gif

BTW, thanks for the info guys.
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Oct 21 2009, 08:13 AM)
Which mean, to keep fully charge battery is recommended to prevent dead battery? Correct me if i'm wrong. Cuz i always plug in suka hati. afraid battery kong.  tongue.gif

BTW, thanks for the info guys.
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iPhone's battery life is based on charge cycles rather than the 'charge only when near zero' principle.
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QUOTE(saksoba @ Oct 21 2009, 08:13 AM)
Which mean, to keep fully charge battery is recommended to prevent dead battery? Correct me if i'm wrong. Cuz i always plug in suka hati. afraid battery kong.  tongue.gif

BTW, thanks for the info guys.
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Oct 21 2009, 08:41 AM)
iPhone's battery life is based on charge cycles rather than the 'charge only when near zero' principle.
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Llithium ion means u muz avoid both end (total empty of battery, or overcharge)
usually for overcharge, on some device, there is a safety cut that will cut off the charging once it reaches full, i not sure if iPhone has.

meaning of charge cycle: u charge full today, u used 50% at the end of day, u put to charge to full again, next day u used 50% and charge to full again. that is not 2 charge cycle, but u completed 1 charge cycle.
reaction and creation of deposit in lithium ion increased over time as u use, they do not hav memory effect.

in another word, the more u use, the faster the battery reaches it's end of life.
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i thought the adapter will control overcharge or not ?
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i thought the adapter will control overcharge or not ?
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I believe most devices these days go into trickle-charge when the battery is full etc.

The usage really is quite inconsistent and seeing the IPhone has so many apps, it is hard to give a concise number of hours of usage.

Today after 4hrs 2mins of standby and 2hours 59 mins of usage(.. listening to songs.. went on mafia wars to check using wi-fi, played 2 songs on RockBand)

My battery life is now at 84%..


The apps of course can be a big impact on battery drain, as it entirely depends on how much resources are utilized.. more cpu power = higher battery usage..
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@tnsai

Nice result u have there. Btw, ur on Edge all the time? And with all the maximum power saving mode? I play around with the battery charging cycle and did a fresh restore. So far i have 63% left after 2hrs 30mins usage (3G on for around 45mins, same games, some sms & some call) and 16hrs of standby. My battery life result seems to be better now.
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You know, i read somewhere also that the peak of the lithium ion battery is reached after a few charge cycles or something.. maybe that's why or someone in a tech forum mentioned it.. not sure..

but anyway, here are a couple of sites on battery care

Battery Care 1

Battery University??? yawn.gif

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iPhone battery has 400 life cycles or less if im not mistaken yea?
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hey there brothers, can i know is there a difference in battery life using iphone with EDGE on and off (no data usage. just leaving the Edge on).

And I believe by default Edge is always ON unless you jailbreak it and use SBSetting to turn it off. Am I right?
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Yes, you are correct. And your battery life would somehow decrease slighty faster if your edge is always on iinm.
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Yes, you are correct. And your battery life would somehow decrease slighty faster if your edge is always on iinm.
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So iPhone users here, jailbreak to save some battery life~ tongue.gif
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Haha. And be sure to lower down the brightness level of the screen as well! And to turn off wifi when not in use.
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Haha. And be sure to lower down the brightness level of the screen as well! And to turn off wifi when not in use.
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will turning off the Auto Brightness help to save battery life?
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QUOTE(fx2800 @ Oct 23 2009, 08:29 AM)
will turning off the Auto Brightness help to save battery life?
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leave that on... Turning off Auto Brightness would make ur screen the same bright all the time, auto brightness adjusts ur screen brightness according to ur lighting conditions n make it less bright sometimes..
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Oct 23 2009, 08:52 AM)
leave that on... Turning off Auto Brightness would make ur screen the same bright all the time, auto brightness adjusts ur screen brightness according to ur lighting conditions n make it less bright sometimes..
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Guys, I found that the phone battery will only work in the way it should be after u play around with the charging cycle. (please refer back to page 19 for more information).

Mine seems back to the track now after few round of complete battery charging cycling. Longest life time were with 1 day 12hrs of standby with 7hrs of usage. And battery life left 20% before i plug for charging..

And testing again on last night, full charged on 100% and hanged on my home wireless network until this morning i wake up. Battery left 92%.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Oct 23 2009, 12:23 PM)
Guys, I found that the phone battery will only work in the way it should be after u play around with the charging cycle. (please refer back to page 19 for more information).

Mine seems back to the track now after few round of complete battery charging cycling. Longest life time were with 1 day 12hrs of standby with 7hrs of usage. And battery life left 20% before i plug for charging..

And testing again on last night, full charged on 100% and hanged on my home wireless network until this morning i wake up. Battery left 92%.
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Bro, basically, your 7 hours of usage is mostly based on what? gaming or ipod?
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 23 2009, 01:45 PM)
Bro, basically, your 7 hours of usage is mostly based on what? gaming or ipod?
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Hm.. Barely can rmb is 45mins of call (rmb this figure cause i did a fresh restore), around 2hours+ of gaming. Most of the time is on sms / Ping! / browsing, and my phone is hooked on wifi most the time when I'm in office. Basically what i done is turn off 3G & Bluetooth, no fetch mail, brightness on 30-35% with auto adjust. And i lock off my screen every time after i done with my phone, 1 mins auto off is too long for me. Pressing the ON/OFF button helps in this.

P/s: Wander will heat cause the power lost? Cause my work place is quite cold environment and my phone is put on the table yet not in my pocket.

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hey all, i currently just got my new iphone 3gs 3.0 from maxis (unlocked). few days before i ran iphone without inserting a sim card, and everything was just fine (with push, notifications, alot of wifi usage, youtube and games), the battery last few days. till yesterday, i inserted a digi sim card as im gonna use it for permanent, the battery started to drain really badly and the phone was always warm which i could feel with skeleton rubber casing! so i decided to switch off all push, notifications and hardly used wifi, and still iphone battery drains even when the phone is on sleep! its like 10-15% battery gone in 20-30mins plus.. i even notice that when i charge iphone(with sim card) it gets really hot!!

PLEASE SAVE MY IPHONE ANYONE. any suggestions are welcomed and thankful!
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QUOTE(0806A68032 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:29 PM)
hey all, i currently just got my new iphone 3gs 3.0 from maxis (unlocked). few days before i ran iphone without inserting a sim card, and everything was just fine (with push, notifications, alot of wifi usage, youtube and games), the battery last few days. till yesterday, i inserted a digi sim card as im gonna use it for permanent, the battery started to drain really badly and the phone was always warm which i could feel with skeleton rubber casing! so i decided to switch off all push, notifications and hardly used wifi, and still iphone battery drains even when the phone is on sleep! its like 10-15% battery gone in 20-30mins plus.. i even notice that when i charge iphone(with sim card) it gets really hot!!

PLEASE SAVE MY IPHONE ANYONE. any suggestions are welcomed and thankful!
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upgrade to the latest firmware i.e. OS3.1.2

that solved my heat problem.
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nokia2003 thanks for ur feedback. but some people got even hotter after upgrading to os 3.1. im really worried, as i dont want to use any unofficial firmware to downgrade it latter if it gets worse. but thank you! i'll see if other give the same suggestions, then i'll try.

would restoring it to its factory setup solve it? not using backing up, but as
'new phone'


thanks!


Added on October 27, 2009, 12:00 amoh ya, forgot to ask. did it also solved ur battery draining problem?


thanks nokia2003

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QUOTE(0806A68032 @ Oct 26 2009, 11:59 PM)
nokia2003 thanks for ur feedback. but some people got even hotter after upgrading to os 3.1. im really worried, as i dont want to use any unofficial firmware to downgrade it latter if it gets worse. but thank you! i'll see if other give the same suggestions, then i'll try.

would restoring it to its factory setup solve it? not using backing up, but as
'new phone'
thanks!
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of course your experience may differ.

remember, new updates/firmwares are supposed (observe the word supposed) to fix bugs/problems.

you can try to restore it as a new phone first (but i doubt it will do much help)


Added on October 27, 2009, 12:03 ammy battery has always been on average, a day.

but i do carry along my external battery pack with me

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darn we all got tricked, haha. thanks! i'll try out and share my experience with others.
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normally till what % we should charge the battery ? 20% ?
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As for me, I would rather let the battery die off, or just as soon the battery would die off. Then only I would charge the iPhone.
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Oct 27 2009, 06:08 PM)
As for me, I would rather let the battery die off, or just as soon the battery would die off. Then only I would charge the iPhone.
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It has been documented that you do not wait until the battery fully depletes before charging. But like anything and everything, there are always 2 schools of thought. But the explanation is that the iPhone has, what, 4000 to 5000 charge cycles of life(I hope I am right). So, if you let the battery run dry and charge, it would be 1 charge cycle. But charging when there is still 'life' in the battery it gives you 'more' charge cycles as then it would not be a charge cycle, so to speak. However, it is advisable to let it fully deplete say once a month to calibrate the battery.

The above sounds plausibe to me and that's why I aqm buying it. So, it is up to you.
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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Oct 27 2009, 10:14 PM)
It has been documented that you do not wait until the battery fully depletes before charging. But like anything and everything, there are always 2 schools of thought. But the explanation is that the iPhone has, what, 4000 to 5000 charge cycles of life(I hope I am right). So, if you let the battery run dry and charge, it would be 1 charge cycle. But charging when there is still 'life' in the battery it gives you 'more' charge cycles as then it would not be a charge cycle, so to speak. However, it is advisable to let it fully deplete say once a month to calibrate the battery.

The above sounds plausibe to me and that's why I aqm buying it. So, it is up to you.
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Actually Apple mention it retain up to 80% battery even after 400 cycle charge.

Anyway Iphone is using Lithium Polymer battery which is much more advance battery than normal lithium ion.

I recalled the first phone to use this kind of battery is T28s. Because i used to slip one extra battery inside my wallet.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Oct 27 2009, 10:55 PM)
Actually Apple mention it retain up to 80% battery even after 400 cycle charge.

Anyway Iphone is using Lithium Polymer battery which is much more advance battery than normal lithium ion.

I recalled the first phone to use this kind of battery is T28s. Because i used to slip one extra battery inside my wallet.
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You are right on both counts.

But what I quoted was for one to maximize and prolong the battery life. Isn't it better to reach 400 cycles, say in 1 and half years rather than 1 year? And you brought back memory of the super slim T28s thumbup.gif
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Hi all, I'm using 3gs 3.1.2. I found out when i use safari serch net
average 3-4min drop 1 percent of batt. Is it normal or wat?
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Yes, i would certainly think that this occurrence is normal. But just to make sure,

are you on wifi/EDGE/3G while browsing? A different rate of the decrease of the

battery would likely to happen depending on which method you are on? Also,

the brightness of the screen , might also affect the rate of the battery to decrease.
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QUOTE(Kernkraft400 @ Oct 28 2009, 09:07 PM)
Yes, i would certainly think that this occurrence is normal. But just to make sure,

are you on wifi/EDGE/3G while browsing? A different rate of the decrease of the

battery would likely to happen depending on which method you are on? Also,

the brightness of the screen , might also affect the rate of the battery to decrease.
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im ON 3G mode... is that normal ? worry bout it...
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:02 AM)
of course your experience may differ.

remember, new updates/firmwares are supposed (observe the word supposed) to fix bugs/problems.

you can try to restore it as a new phone first (but i doubt it will do much help)


Added on October 27, 2009, 12:03 ammy battery has always been on average, a day.

but i do carry along my external battery pack with me
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hi what u mean is external battery pack??cn share wit it??

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QUOTE(vlynn-662 @ Oct 29 2009, 10:35 AM)
hi what u mean is external battery pack??cn share wit it??
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External battery pack means it's a built in rechargeable battery charger.
There is two type of charger. It's either slide in or plug in type.
Myself is using mophie juice pack with 1800maH which extends at least a day and a half.

It would nice to find Richard solo 1800 for sale in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(kingkong888 @ Oct 28 2009, 09:31 PM)
im ON 3G mode... is that normal ? worry bout it...
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very normal ...
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some noob question to ask you guys,

some of my fren said iphone battery need to keep charging so that the battery only will perform better, when getting low only charge will hurt the battery.

normally now I wait until under 20% only charge my battery.

so pls someone clarify that...
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QUOTE(Kenny_Yong_9 @ Nov 4 2009, 02:59 AM)
some noob question to ask you guys,

some of my fren said iphone battery need to keep charging so that the battery only will perform better,  when getting low only charge will hurt the battery.

normally now I wait until under 20% only charge my battery.

so pls someone clarify that...
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If you are seriously concerned about your battery usage, please read this thread from the start. Not only will you get an answer to your question, you will also learn much more.
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If you are seriously concerned about your battery usage, please read this thread from the start. Not only will you get an answer to your question, you will also learn much more.
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can googling around as well....
when it is something not....
then u post here...we google together tongue.gif
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Doing a bulk on Mili battery pack for iPhone, check out my post if interested.
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y is my iphone jb always in the Usage part is empty ?
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hey, im wondering how long can ur iphone lasts at 100% battery ?
For me , it drops to 96-95% within 10 minutes after fully charging it eventhough im not using it ..
p/s: all my settings (3G,Edge,Wife,Location) are set to off

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QUOTE(loowy @ Nov 12 2009, 02:31 PM)
hey, im wondering how long can ur iphone lasts at 100% battery ?
For me , it drops to 96-95% within 10 minutes after fully charging it eventhough im not using it ..
p/s: all my settings (3G,Edge,Wife,Location) are set to off
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Mine so far

5 hours 55 minute usage
1 day 14 hours standy

and i left 27% battery still..

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finally found a way to disable cellular internet access but still able to receive/send mms!
y is my iphone jb always in the Usage part is empty ?
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finally found a way to disable cellular internet access but still able to receive/send mms!
y is my iphone jb always in the Usage part is empty ?
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QUOTE(loowy @ Nov 12 2009, 02:31 PM)
hey, im wondering how long can ur iphone lasts at 100% battery ?
For me , it drops to 96-95% within 10 minutes after fully charging it eventhough im not using it ..
p/s: all my settings (3G,Edge,Wife,Location) are set to off
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wow ... ur phone got problem is it ???


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already do that
so now in cellular data and MMS
just leave it like that
dont have to edit the APN?
coz APN i edit to become "une" instead of "unet"
scared my prepaid will drain

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Yup, I had the same experience too. Browsing using 3g will drain my battery in no time. It's relatively much better using edge and wifi.

It's even worst if you set the location services on...

I'm quite a heavy user. My one full charge can only last me max 2 days. Wondering if it's normal as my previous phone can easily last me 3-4 days.
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QUOTE(bliss85 @ Nov 14 2009, 11:31 PM)
Yup, I had the same experience too. Browsing using 3g will drain my battery in no time. It's relatively much better using edge and wifi.

It's even worst if you set the location services on...

I'm quite a heavy user. My one full charge can only last me max 2 days. Wondering if it's normal as my previous phone can easily last me 3-4 days.
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so nice can last 2days, mine cant even last 1 day lol..too much smsing and calls and gaming


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QUOTE(azim61 @ Nov 13 2009, 04:20 PM)
already do that
so now in cellular data and MMS
just leave it like that
dont have to edit the APN?
coz APN i edit to become "une" instead of "unet"
scared my prepaid will drain
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dun edit anything on MMS
juz put unetlol or anything on the APN
but if u reboot the device the setting will be resetted, need to key in again. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 15 2009, 01:37 PM)
so nice can last 2days, mine cant even last 1 day lol..too much smsing and calls and gaming

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my every day also need charge because work place no Edge signal, means i must on the 3G to surf net .... and using 3G really drain the battery damn fast compare listen music.
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 15 2009, 01:37 PM)
so nice can last 2days, mine cant even last 1 day lol..too much smsing and calls and gaming


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dun edit anything on MMS
juz put unetlol or anything on the APN
but if u reboot the device the setting will be resetted, need to key in again. rclxub.gif
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Hi,as i meantioned above...what i want to ask is:

Everytime after i fully-charged my iphone,then i will play some games and sometimes when i finish played the game,the battery already dropped to 20%-30%..after awhile i need to charge again,so i was worry will it bring any battery problem since i always charge it after fully charge..

And if we keep playing games on iphone no problem one right?i mean will it bring any problem to touchscreen?since i always keep pressing the screen when playing game..or battery?

Sorry to ask this such question...just worry bout it..hehe
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I think there would not be much of an issue should you start charging again when your battery is already at the 20-30% level. Furthermore, I think you don't have a choice right?
I've read on some other forums and if i can remember correctly, apparently the efficiency of our iphone's battery after about 10,000 (or 1,000?) charges will decrease to about 80%. I think you can also read about this at apple's website regarding "battery replacement".
As for gaming, the only problem you will need to be aware of i think is overheating.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Below my i3Gs battery lifetime statistics:
1) OS3.0.1 04.26.08BB ~ every 1 hour drop 1%
2) OS3.1.2 04.26.08BB ~ every 1 hour drop 1.5%
3) OS3.1.2 05.11.07BB ~ every 1 hour drop 2%

So, don't upgrade to OS3.1.2 05.11.07BB.. damn..
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QUOTE(SKTP @ Nov 18 2009, 12:51 AM)
Below my i3Gs battery lifetime statistics:
1) OS3.0.1 04.26.08BB ~ every 1 hour drop 1%
2) OS3.1.2 04.26.08BB ~ every 1 hour drop 1.5%
3) OS3.1.2 05.11.07BB ~ every 1 hour drop 2%

So, don't upgrade to OS3.1.2 05.11.07BB.. damn..
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Usage - 1hour 1min
Standby - 2hours 35mins

already 91% lol doh.gif
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I wonder what Apple claim with the better battery life when they launch the 3GS .. oo man
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hi.. regarding the battery, anyone tried battery power pack? any nice recommendation? thanks
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hi.. regarding the battery, anyone tried battery power pack? any nice recommendation? thanks
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 18 2009, 01:17 PM)
mine is also the no. 3
Usage - 1hour 1min
Standby - 2hours 35mins

already 91% lol doh.gif
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I thought that's normal? U have like 1 hours usage and only 9% is used.. Normally a full charge will get only you around 6 hours usage n around 1 day++ hours of standby with push off...
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Mine was showing a big decrease in battery 2 days ago after playing pocket god. It was fully drained over the nite. From then on the battery percentage goes up and down like a rocket say for instance from 45% straight to 35%. I wanted to restore using itunes but there is a need to upgrade it to 3.1.2 version. I am currently in 3.01 JB and i dont wan to upgrade fearing that i cant JB it again and also that my baseband will be upgraded as well. I tried push off, 3g off, blutooth off, edge off, all processes off in sbsettings, brightness 40%. Did a reset as well. Now batttery still charrges and used up like a rocket....ie going up and down fast!!
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QUOTE(pius8311 @ Nov 19 2009, 02:27 PM)
Mine was showing a big decrease in battery 2 days ago after playing pocket god. It was fully drained over the nite. From then on the battery percentage goes up and down like a rocket say for instance from 45% straight to 35%. I wanted to restore using itunes but there is a need to upgrade it to 3.1.2 version. I am currently in 3.01 JB and i dont wan to upgrade fearing that i cant JB it again and also that my baseband will be upgraded as well. I tried push off, 3g off, blutooth off, edge off, all processes off in sbsettings, brightness 40%. Did a reset as well. Now batttery still charrges and used up like a rocket....ie going up and down fast!!
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When you access iTunes and it prompts you to upgrade to OS3.1.2, you can just ignore by cancelling the prompt. You can then go ahead and restore your phone, if you so wish and it will remain at your present OS.
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1 day 7hrs standby, 2hrs 31 mins usage( games mostly.. youtube some 3g net surfing, else 3g off most of the times.. EDGE on fakeAPN off) and my battery is at 50%
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Guys, I have a question.. I am currently using iPhone 3GS JB'ed... I found out 1 of the causes of my battery draining very fast is because of the processes running in the background.. For example, after I checked mail n closed it, I still the mail process in the SB Settings, why is it so? And the iPod process is always on although I never turned it on... This is not good.. It's been draining my battery faster these days...
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Nov 20 2009, 07:34 PM)
Guys, I have a question.. I am currently using iPhone 3GS JB'ed... I found out 1 of the causes of my battery draining very fast is because of the processes running in the background.. For example, after I checked mail n closed it, I still the mail process in the SB Settings, why is it so? And the iPod process is always on although I never turned it on... This is not good.. It's been draining my battery faster these days...
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Mail pops up by itself automatically most of the time so there's nothing you can do about it other than terminate the process by checking once in a while.

while for iPod, it doesn't pops up by itself. you must had ter-tap on the app. smile.gif
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QUOTE(SKTP @ Nov 18 2009, 12:51 AM)
Below my i3Gs battery lifetime statistics:
1) OS3.0.1 04.26.08BB ~ every 1 hour drop 1%
2) OS3.1.2 04.26.08BB ~ every 1 hour drop 1.5%
3) OS3.1.2 05.11.07BB ~ every 1 hour drop 2%

So, don't upgrade to OS3.1.2 05.11.07BB.. damn..
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I am running OS 3.1.2 05.11.07BB Jailbreak, i off 3G, off push notification, off fetch new data of mail, off wifi. overnight standby for around 7-8hours, it drop only 1-2%. I smses n calls with some gaming, not vr heavy thou, i3gs can last me around 2-3days max.
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QUOTE(InfErnaL~ @ Nov 21 2009, 03:46 PM)
I am running OS 3.1.2 05.11.07BB Jailbreak, i off 3G, off push notification, off fetch new data of mail, off wifi. overnight standby for around 7-8hours, it drop only 1-2%. I smses n calls with some gaming, not vr heavy thou, i3gs can last me around 2-3days max.
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same with me standby 6-8 hours only take 2%
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QUOTE(InfErnaL~ @ Nov 21 2009, 03:46 PM)
I am running OS 3.1.2 05.11.07BB Jailbreak, i off 3G, off push notification, off fetch new data of mail, off wifi. overnight standby for around 7-8hours, it drop only 1-2%. I smses n calls with some gaming, not vr heavy thou, i3gs can last me around 2-3days max.
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QUOTE(azim61 @ Nov 21 2009, 04:29 PM)
same with me standby 6-8 hours only take 2%
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fuyooo so nice mine must got some problem hmm.gif
i use the same setting as infernal but roughly how many smses each day?my daily usage 1-2hours calls, music 30min-1hour, sms around 100....nvr reach 2 days lol..max 1 day
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 22 2009, 12:03 AM)
fuyooo so nice mine must got some problem  hmm.gif
i use the same setting as infernal but roughly how many smses each day?my daily usage 1-2hours calls, music 30min-1hour, sms around 100....nvr reach 2 days lol..max 1 day
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thats normal bro
im rarely call and sms
sometime listen to music
game about 20min only
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Nov 22 2009, 12:03 AM)
fuyooo so nice mine must got some problem  hmm.gif
i use the same setting as infernal but roughly how many smses each day?my daily usage 1-2hours calls, music 30min-1hour, sms around 100....nvr reach 2 days lol..max 1 day
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ooo, no wander. i do around half wat u do evday. tat's y can last 2 days. haha.


Added on November 27, 2009, 2:39 amdoes adding more pages drain more battery?

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QUOTE(azim61 @ Nov 22 2009, 07:09 AM)
thats normal bro
im rarely call and sms
sometime listen to music
game about 20min only
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thanks icon_rolleyes.gif

with 3G and Push on with Beejive on background
battery draining like crazy.
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then can change the new battery or not? if do have then where?
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@ortoklas7
Yes, you can send to Apple/Mac to change new battery.
About the charges, I'm not really sure.
But it takes like 3 days to replace you a brand new battery and when you get back your phone, your phone would be a fresh phone.. Data gone..
Which means they will restore your phone in front of you due to privacy issue like stealing details from your phone or whatever is in your phone.
Of course, they'll ask for your permission first before restore - ing your phone.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

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QUOTE(InfErnaL~ @ Nov 21 2009, 03:46 PM)
I am running OS 3.1.2 05.11.07BB Jailbreak, i off 3G, off push notification, off fetch new data of mail, off wifi. overnight standby for around 7-8hours, it drop only 1-2%. I smses n calls with some gaming, not vr heavy thou, i3gs can last me around 2-3days max.
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anyone having problem after jb with blackra1n rc3? i mean wifi problem or related?

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Everytime I'm charging my iphone with my laptop usb most of the times, is that okies? I'm worried that will kill the battery ;/
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QUOTE(Cyan7 @ Dec 25 2009, 09:20 PM)
@ortoklas7
Yes, you can send to Apple/Mac to change new battery.
About the charges, I'm not really sure.
But it takes like 3 days to replace you a brand new battery and when you get back your phone, your phone would be a fresh phone.. Data gone..
Which means they will restore your phone in front of you due to privacy issue like stealing details from your phone or whatever is in your phone.
Of course, they'll ask for your permission first before restore - ing your phone.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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QUOTE(tcken @ Dec 26 2009, 11:56 PM)
Everytime I'm charging my iphone with my laptop usb most of the times, is that okies? I'm worried that will kill the battery ;/
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Lithium-ion cell do not get killed for frequent charging, it get kills by extreme temperature or hefty usage....
the more u use...the more u start build up deposit in it, the faster capacity grows lesser
ain't we all expecting this one day since we all heavy user wink.gif
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i think my iphone's(2g) battery already drain n dead on arrival..izit normal when u try to charge the phone n battery level didnt level up?very weird coz dis 1st time happened to me..

im using OS 3.0

popup appear on windows XP and OSX when i connected using USB cable

ON XP

POWER SURGE ON HUB PORT
A USB deviced has exceeded the power limits of its hub port.

ON OSX

USB OVER CURRENT NOTICE

A USB Device is currently drawing too much power. The hub to which it is attached to will be activated


what's wrong with my phone?
im not using any hub..just connect directly to usb 2.0, but it not charging and detect the phone as usual

izit my cable problem?or the phone itself?

anyone can help me?


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hope this helps
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-xp/46395...e-hub-port.html
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Dec 28 2009, 07:07 AM)
dat for XP..tried google..but didnt find the best solution for macbook..anyway..tq dinozilla..
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after having my phone for 2 days i already did 2 charges (tht doesn't include the charging when i connect my phone to pc for syncing)

i jz drained my phone ytd and let it charge for 4 hours and reboot it,but batt life doesn't seem to be any better

overall usage include fb and msn using 3g,sms-es,few calls,heavy gaming ytd nite (testing),and music using headset

most obvious batt drain i notice is during usage of 3g (browsing or app usage),and music listening.i wake the screen like evry 10/15 min and notice a 1% drop

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I think all phones are having same battery problem when using 3G for surfing. I use HTC Windows Mobile phone and I can say all of their phones drain battery when browsing internet using 3G .. but I really hope iPhone can improve this issue
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 29 2009, 09:36 PM)
after having my phone for 2 days i already did 2 charges (tht doesn't include the charging when i connect my phone to pc for syncing)

i jz drained my phone ytd and let it charge for 4 hours and reboot it,but batt life doesn't seem to be any better

overall usage include fb and msn using 3g,sms-es,few calls,heavy gaming ytd nite (testing),and music using headset

most obvious batt drain i notice is during usage of 3g (browsing or app usage),and music listening.i wake the screen like evry 10/15 min and notice a 1% drop
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Generally all phones and iPhones are no exception the battery life improves with usage. So, use it a little longer and it should be better.
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my problem already solved!!!

buy original usb cable..haha..i tot the phone problem..luckily only the usb cable..

my advice..dun ever try cheapo usb cable..seriously,it worth when u spend more money to buy ori cable

my ori cable lost b4 dis,dats y i bought cap ayam cable..used 4 1month then got problem!!damn
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QUOTE(Shock @ Jul 5 2009, 03:09 PM)
I have no problem with the  battery. I can last 5 days b4 it totaly drain off.

Why not You try 2 suggestion i give?

1) Backup all the contact etc manually (can find the method in pinned topic) and restore the phone. afterthat START the iphone as new phone (DO NOT restore from backup). and close all the push mail notice.

2)check the push mail notice and set all to manually and OFF
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Being using wifi to download appstore app this morning batt started 97% after 45 mins 41% left. Is it normal that using wifi also will drain batt like crazy? ( mine is iphone 3gs 32GB, is it normal ?>)

wanted to try the method above. But how to restore the phone? what are the steps?
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next time i should bring my charger along.ytd my phone was fully charge on morning,i went to my frens place to celebrate new year and overnight thr,and by night around 11 sumthg,batt is already down to 5%

end up on the morning of new year i have no phone to use as none of my frens have an ipod or iphone charger
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haha.. just buy a rechargeable casing with u always then should be ok de la.. when no battery that time just on it lo
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[quote=*** BK,Dec 30 2009, 11:01 AM]
Being using wifi to download appstore app this morning batt started 97% after 45 mins 41% left. Is it normal that using wifi also will drain batt like crazy? ( mine is iphone 3gs 32GB, is it normal ?>)

wanted to try the method above. But how to restore the phone? what are the steps?
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I'm using 3gs on fw 3.1, so far my average life of my phone bout 2 to 3 day max. 3g usage will drain the batt faster
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I think this Solar Charger for iPhone will come in very handy...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1282125

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QUOTE(pcboy @ Dec 29 2009, 10:22 PM)
I think all phones are having same battery problem when using 3G for surfing. I use HTC Windows Mobile phone and I can say all of their phones drain battery when browsing internet using 3G .. but I really hope iPhone can improve this issue
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sorry, with such a big screen for a handheld device, the battery life sure wont last long for each charge ...

my advice is get a car charger from machine ...
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I bought a Dexim BluePack S3, which is a 2600mAh Li-Ion battery pack (1000mA output which is enough for the iPhone), which can charge my iPhone/iPod/Blackberry via its USB port. It also has a built-in LED flashlight. It's a bit smaller than the iPhone.

I find it's very useful especially when travelling, as I can use this one battery pack (with accompanying charger), to replace my iPhone charger, iPod charger and Blackberry charger. It can also charge other USB powered devices.
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QUOTE(Traveler @ Jan 7 2010, 04:02 PM)
I bought a Dexim BluePack S3, which is a 2600mAh Li-Ion battery pack (1000mA output which is enough for the iPhone), which can charge my iPhone/iPod/Blackberry via its USB port. It also has a built-in LED flashlight. It's a bit smaller than the iPhone.

I find it's very useful especially when travelling, as I can use this one battery pack (with accompanying charger), to replace my iPhone charger, iPod charger and Blackberry charger. It can also charge other USB powered devices.
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how much it will cost. thanks
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Make sure the location service turn off, don't use Bluetooth, turn off push mail if u don't really need it. Turn on the 3g network when u need it, after all off, u shall be able to heavy use for 2 days by making 60 calls daily.


Added on January 17, 2010, 5:36 pmMore solution is, don't use the made in china portable on 3gs phone.

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yup.. off everything if u no need use it.. that all the matter..
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Has anyone manage to get their 3gs repaired or replaced by maxis?
My set is draining battery at 3% to 4% every 5mins.
I already restored as new phone. After restoring to new it became worse. Turned off push, Bluetooth. I have wifi and 3g on only. Previously not so bad but now getting worse and worse.

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may i know function of push mail
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3.1.3 firmware is now available that will hopefully (for the 10x) fix the battery problem..

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well they said the fix the battery (meter) reporting problem hahaha more accurate battery reading but did not touch on the issue,,, fishy...


aniways just TURN OFF PUSH and all will be fine

I have by Bluetooth on, my Location Service on and my Wifi is on!!! just turn off bladi PUSH and set fetch to 1 hour... It can last me whole day!!!


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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2010, 06:33 PM)
Has anyone manage to get their 3gs repaired or replaced by maxis?
My set is draining battery at 3% to 4% every 5mins.
I already restored as new phone. After restoring to new it became worse. Turned off push, Bluetooth. I have wifi and 3g on only. Previously not so bad but now getting worse and worse.
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Feb 3 2010, 10:02 PM)
same problem here sad.gif
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hi. i notice that when i turn off the wifi when i'm not using it, the batteries last much much longer
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Hmm.... 3.1.3 did not solve battery problem... I feel not much difference also....


yes Wifi can sometime suck up alot of battery... but for me I have chargers stand by...

My car I used Griffin Power Jolt, pretty good it even charge my phone when I use GPS and 3G together... the power jolt has enough power to power all this stuff and charge your battery...

My office I have a apple adapter usb (free when I purchase my ipod touch) and home is my iphone charger adapter...

I charge my phone whenever I have to keep it at 100% (dont worry charging li-ion will not damage your phone as I did it to my ipod touch and it has been 3 years note great but still good, only HEAT will damage your battery) furthermore 3rd party replacement for iphone battery only RM150 smile.gif ok for me!!!

and with PUSH mail turn off, I do not even need a backup phone with me smile.gif can last me whole day and more tongue.gif

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user posted image

It is correct??
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i think the 3.1.3 FW improve the battery performance. i'm using FW 3.1.3 on my iphone 3G, it can last for 1 whole day ( i'm a heavy sms-er ). before this on 3.1.2,i need to charge my phone more than twice a day. and its improve data issue too ( i'm not sure but so far i don't have any data leak after upgrading)
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My latest battery life result with OS 3.1.3. None JB 3GS.

[attachmentid=1437358]

7 hours usage including:

- WiFi never turn off (got connected when im at home / office).
- Push on (for Yak & Ping! messenger).
- Email fetch once per hour
- Game proximately 20-40mins
- Surfing 10-30mins
- Heavy SMS
- 40mins of call

Comments: So far so good.. Might probably the 3.1.3 had corrected the battery life reading i assume.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 6 2010, 02:21 PM)
My latest battery life result with OS 3.1.3. None JB 3GS.

[attachmentid=1437358]

7 hours usage including:

- WiFi never turn off (got connected when im at home / office).
- Push on (for Yak & Ping! messenger).
- Email fetch once per hour
- Game proximately 20-40mins
- Surfing 10-30mins
- Heavy SMS
- 40mins of call

Comments: So far so good.. Might probably the 3.1.3 had corrected the battery life reading i assume.
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Just updated to FW 3.13

Going to test how long it can last between a fresh full charged with my 3G on.

I'm starting to get lazy switching on and off the 3G. Just let the 3G on.
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QUOTE(raytung @ Feb 2 2010, 02:30 AM)
may i know function of push mail
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Everytime you receive new email, Apple server will push and notify you 'on the spot' about incoming new email.. But you must setup first your email in your iPhone i.e. gmail, yahoo, etc.

You also can sync your emails. If you delete emails in your phone, the emails are 'really' deleted.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say smile.gif

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Right~ So it will be very easy to know your new emails
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QUOTE(fylon @ Feb 6 2010, 02:21 PM)
My latest battery life result with OS 3.1.3. None JB 3GS.

[attachmentid=1437358]

7 hours usage including:

- WiFi never turn off (got connected when im at home / office).
- Push on (for Yak & Ping! messenger).
- Email fetch once per hour
- Game proximately 20-40mins
- Surfing 10-30mins
- Heavy SMS
- 40mins of call

Comments: So far so good.. Might probably the 3.1.3 had corrected the battery life reading i assume.
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I wanna ask how the standby and usage counted ha?
total time the phone is on = usage + standby?
or just standby =/
im blur-ed sorry =)
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QUOTE(monked @ Feb 7 2010, 10:54 PM)
I wanna ask how the standby and usage counted ha?
total time the phone is on = usage + standby?
or just standby =/
im blur-ed sorry =)
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yes bro the stanby is also counted in your battery life...
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so in his case his phone had been using 1day 27 hour 11 min?
or 1 day 20hour

still blur ><
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QUOTE(monked @ Feb 7 2010, 11:29 PM)
so in his case his phone had been using 1day 27 hour 11 min?
or 1 day 20hour

still blur ><
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staby doesn't meant that it takes battery totaly down... Like usage..it do take but a little a bit..it's something like putting your tv on stanby or pc on stanby...it's on but there are possible some program running at the back...
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Feb 7 2010, 08:05 AM)
Just updated to FW 3.13

Going to test how long it can last between a fresh full charged with my 3G on.

I'm starting to get lazy switching on and off the 3G. Just let the 3G on.
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Hm.. All these awhile, I never turn off my phone 3G and WiFi, so whenver I at home / office the phone will automatically hooked up to the wireless. Right before upgrade to 3.1.3, the battery could last 24 - 36 hrs for me thou.


QUOTE(monked @ Feb 7 2010, 11:29 PM)
so in his case his phone had been using 1day 27 hour 11 min?
or 1 day 20hour

still blur ><
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Bro, look carefully, u may get the clue. smile.gif

Standby Time = Amount of time iPhone has been powered on since its last full charge, including the time the phone has been asleep.

Usage = Amount of time iPhone has been awake and in use since the last full charge. The iPhone is awake when you're on a call, using email, listening to music, browsing the Web, sending and receiving text messages, or when certain background tasks occur such as auto-checking email.

Source: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1805?viewlocale=en_US
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QUOTE(monked @ Feb 7 2010, 11:29 PM)
so in his case his phone had been using 1day 27 hour 11 min?
or 1 day 20hour

still blur ><
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of cz 1day 20hours... i dont know dat in tis world hours got 27.... hahhaha.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(billhambridge @ Feb 8 2010, 04:15 AM)
of cz 1day 20hours... i dont know dat in tis world hours got 27.... hahhaha.... doh.gif
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lol..
paiseh
coz i just total up both thing ...
now im clear
thank for everyone tht help me in understanding more ^^
truly appreciate
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i took my iphone on 4feb. after charge 8hrs, i tried heavy usage with all enable (3G, push, hevy youtube, surfing, gaming). iphone only stand for almost 2hours.

then everything get worst. after full charge, with anything disable (contra with above); hold only 5hours like that. sad.gif

last saturday i try BatteryDoctor app, and wow... it's powerful. come with Last Full Cycle Charge... from 10 am till 4pm only down 10% (remain 90%); with heavy sms, light surfing & YM.

so, Last Full Cycle Charge is what ur iphone need. @_@

ehehhehe

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QUOTE(xdsl @ Feb 8 2010, 04:22 PM)
i took my iphone on 4feb. after charge 8hrs, i tried heavy usage with all enable (3G, push, hevy youtube, surfing, gaming). iphone only stand for almost 2hours.

then everything get worst. after full charge, with anything disable (contra with above); hold only 5hours like that. sad.gif

last saturday i try BatteryDoctor app, and wow... it's powerful. come with Last Full Cycle Charge... from 10 am till 4pm only down 10% (remain 90%); with heavy sms, light surfing & YM.

so, Last Full Cycle Charge is what ur iphone need. @_@

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so Battery doctor help you to improve battery life?
or teach you how to improve?
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so Battery doctor help you to improve battery life?
or teach you how to improve?
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there are many apps offer Full Cycle Charge; the most popular is Battery Doctor.

For me, Yes it's improve my battery life with "Full Cycle Charge". and it's help me to manage my iphone's battery very well.

try it. only $0.99usd. approximately RM 3.50...

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from apple's site :

Use iPhone Regularly
For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery, it’s important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Be sure to go through at least one charge cycle per month (charging the battery to 100% and then completely running it down).
http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html

What is Full Charge Cycle :
A charge cycle means using all of the battery’s power, but that doesn’t necessarily mean a single charge. For instance, you could listen to your iPod for a few hours one day, using half its power, and then recharge it fully. If you did the same thing the next day, it would count as one charge cycle, not two, so you may take several days to complete a cycle. Each time you complete a charge cycle, it diminishes battery capacity slightly, but you can put notebook, iPod, and iPhone batteries through many charge cycles before they will only hold 80% of original battery capacity. As with other rechargeable batteries, you may eventually need to replace your battery.
http://www.apple.com/batteries/


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For OS3 the main culprit is the push email, I have notice by turning it off and set to fetch it can improve battery life by more than twice

also set your screen brightness to 1/3 of the slider and set auto brightness on as when you are outside at lease you can see your screen hehehe

I left by bluetooth and wifi on all the time 3g too

so far can last me 1 whole day

I also charge my phone when I got the chance like in car, office just plug it in it won't spoiled the battery.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 9 2010, 09:50 AM)
For OS3 the main culprit is the push email, I have notice by turning it off and set to fetch it can improve battery life by more than twice

also set your screen brightness to 1/3 of the slider and set auto brightness on as when you are outside at lease you can see your screen hehehe

I left by bluetooth and wifi on all the time 3g too

so far can last me 1 whole day

I also charge my phone when I got the chance like in car, office just plug it in it won't spoiled the battery.
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u turn off push email also the email app will somehow magically run on the background..stupid apple
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QUOTE(xpresside @ Feb 9 2010, 12:40 PM)
u turn off push email also the email app will somehow magically run on the background..stupid apple
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it run on bg cause of fetch unless you set to manual laa or force quit the app lor
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 9 2010, 01:28 PM)
it run on bg cause of fetch unless you set to manual laa or force quit the app lor
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set manual also same la, mail app will still run on background
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As someone who frequently travel with my macbook, I found out a way to make my macbook as "portable charger" of my iPhone.

When I'm traveling, I kinda use my iPhone more than usual (GPS, games, listening music, calls/sms etc). So when the battery is low, I just open my macbook, plug my iphone to it and it will start charging.

After it has started charging, I just close my macbook monitor, then my macbook will go to sleep, but at the same time it will still be charging my iPhone.

Then I just left both the devices in my backpack, and my iPhone should be fully-recharged again in less than an hour (i think). While on my macbook's side, it doesn't drain much from my macbook battery (only a bar, i think).

I haven't quantitatively experimenting with it yet, later perhaps. But my question is, if I keep doing that way, would it have any effect on my iPhone and/or on my macbook?

If not, then I believe this method is quite reliable. I don't have to worry about my iPhone's batt when I'm traveling again.


ps: thanks for the suggestion of "Battery Doctor". Definitely more beneficial than the Battery Magic Free i'm using!
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It may spoil your mac battery, although mac is sleeping it still runs and by putting it inside the back pack may generate some heat... And li-ion are sensitive to heat... Not such a great idea but can try and if the bat survive do let me know hhehehe
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 9 2010, 11:05 PM)
It may spoil your mac battery, although mac is sleeping it still runs and by putting it inside the back pack may generate some heat... And li-ion are sensitive to heat... Not such a great idea but can try and if the bat survive do let me know hhehehe
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Err..does this mean that I should shut-down my macbook if i want to put it into backpack?

(sorry for the temporary deviation from the main thread topic)
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Yeap cause of heat and potentially may spoiled the bat
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has anyone have this problem

my battery was fully charge, then this morning out of no where my iphone turn off itself

battery indicator says its out of battery, try to charge it again but it cant, waited 1 hour n it is still red

it wont go more then the red indicator

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