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Movies LYN Official TRANSFORMERS Movie Thread: V2, Next: Transformers 3 - July 1st, 2011

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post Jun 4 2009, 02:53 AM, updated 17y ago

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Transformers 3 Enters Summer 2011

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Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures have set a July 1, 2011 release date for Transformers 3, but the studios have cautioned to Variety that the dating of the third installment isn't an official announcement that the project is going forward; rather that the studios wanted to plan a stake in the date.

Transformers opened July 2, 2007; Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen debuts on June 24, 2009.

So far, Transformers 3 has no direct competition in its July 1, 2011 date.


All I want is Hot Rod.

If all 3 Transformers movies don't have Hot Rod...

... I give up man...

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post Jun 4 2009, 02:56 AM

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yeay.. so revenge of fallen is not a last one

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post Jun 4 2009, 07:03 AM

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I thought it was always intended to be a trilogy ?

2011 ? . I thought 2012.

Will Bay return to direct? Where would a Transformers movie be without him ! He must be super exhausted...

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post Jun 4 2009, 09:12 AM

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wow...they already begin works on Transformer 3? rclxms.gif
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post Jun 4 2009, 09:52 AM

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I hope megan fox is not too old for the third one. sweat.gif
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post Jun 4 2009, 09:57 AM

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I hope Michael Bay is directing the next one,if not,it will be epic failure.
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hooray....it's set 2 years later....
and i think it always will be directed by Michael bay......he's the one that makes this movie so successful
hope for same actor.....but more robots more explosions of course

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post Jun 4 2009, 10:08 AM

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I hope the 3rd instalment will introduce not just dinobots, but even more combiners and base-formers like Metroplex and Trypticons.



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post Jun 4 2009, 10:24 AM

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I hope Megan Fox boobs can transform now.
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i think we'll see Transformers 3 in 2012 since Micheal Bay wants to put aside dealing with robots for a year at least. so he'll rest in 2010. and he can continue working with robots in 2011. the they should give MB to take his time instead of pushing things forward. or else it will end up like Spiderman 3 where the 1st 2nd are epic and they cant wait for more and push Raimi for the 3rd so soon. and the result is just a half cooked Spidey. i hope Orci and Kurtzman will bring Unicron in. yeah~!
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post Jun 4 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 3 2009, 07:57 PM)
I hope Michael Bay is directing the next one,if not,it will be epic failure.
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post Jun 4 2009, 01:01 PM

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oh come on, Bay has a lot of movies going on for him. I want to see Ridley Scott, James Cameron or Peter Jackson interpretation for TF3. Had enough of starship trooperomers, Wachowski bros also known to be true to their source, and they are more of our generation kind of type.
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QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion @ Jun 4 2009, 11:24 AM)
I hope Megan Fox boobs can transform now.
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post Jun 4 2009, 03:25 PM

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I just hope no more Megatron, some new nemesis in Transformer 3. I amquite sick of Megatron from the cartoons back in 80's/90's...can never die...

Maybe Transformer vs Gundam??
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QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jun 4 2009, 12:01 PM)
Bay hasn't made a good movie since The Rock
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TF1 was good.At least for me.

QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 4 2009, 03:25 PM)
Maybe Transformer vs Gundam??
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post Jun 4 2009, 09:35 PM

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wah~~~ not yet watch t2 ~~~now t3 ah~~~
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post Jun 4 2009, 10:57 PM

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Transformer without Hot Rod is like incomplete
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post Jun 4 2009, 11:40 PM

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Transformers 3 directed by Ewe Boll... now that would create headlines.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 4 2009, 03:13 AM)
TF1 was good.At least for me.
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post Jun 5 2009, 01:38 AM

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post Jun 5 2009, 07:56 AM

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post Jun 5 2009, 10:02 AM

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hot rod sucks i want Six Shot . wah awal juga thread transformer 3 ni doh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 4 2009, 10:08 AM)
I hope the 3rd instalment will introduce not just dinobots, but even more combiners and base-formers like Metroplex and Trypticons.
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More combiner TFs would be great, as long they dont bring in any TFs from Ginrai era.
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post Jun 6 2009, 01:01 AM

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ah,this is anime or wat.in the first post picture like anime?
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post Jun 24 2009, 10:33 PM

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So what ya all thinkg?

Movie #3 is possible nao? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 24 2009, 10:39 PM

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Some of Michael Bay-ish dialogue in reaction to TF3:

(using Shia's voice) No! No! No! Nooooo! Noooooooo!
(using army like voice) Not tonight. Not on my watch, you won't.
(Optimus Prime) I am Optimus Prime and we're waiting to defend ourselves against the threat of poorly made movies.

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QUOTE(firedauz @ Jun 4 2009, 02:53 AM)
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All I want is Hot Rod.

If all 3 Transformers movies don't have Hot Rod...

... I give up man...
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i gave up since the first TF movie...lots of character changes...
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Unicron destroys Earth.

Micheal Bay will totally jizz in his pants if they gave them that script.
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Steven Spielberg has been the Executive Producer for Transformers 1 and 2. Its time he stepped up and helm the entire project as a "director". Transformers 3 should be directed by Spielberg, or other "worthy-ier" directors.

Michael Bay went for an all out assault on Transformers 2. Was an a**.




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QUOTE(hoax @ Jun 24 2009, 11:15 PM)
i gave up since the first TF movie...lots of character changes...
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If u are saying that alot other movie they change the storyline and character lor
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 4 2009, 09:57 AM)
I hope Michael Bay is directing the next one,if not,it will be epic failure.
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Sorry to break the ice, but him directing ROTF is just a lil disappointing to me.
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Michael Bay wrote the Tranformer 2 script himself I guess...

Sam Witwicky: Bee, I want to talk to you about the college thing, okay?
Bumblebee: [does a dance] "I'm so excited, / And I just can't hide it..."
Sam Witwicky: Hey! I'm not taking you with me!
[Bumblebee is downcast]
Mikaela Banes: I'm gonna wait outside...
[goes outside and starts to strip]
Sam Witwicky: Bumblebee, just hear me out okay. You know freshmen aren't allowed to have cars, that's all it is. It is best for both of us. I know it doesn't sound like it but... you're an Autobot, you shouldn't be living in my dad's garage. I mean you're suffocating in here. Hey will you look at me please? Hey, come on big guy...


Wheelie: Is that the best you got, huh? Is that best you can do?
Mikaela Banes: What are you doing here, you little freak?
[Mikeala burns his left eye off with a soldering iron]
Wheelie: That's my eye, you crazy b****! Easy warrior goddess, I'm just a little salvage scrap drone.
Mikaela Banes: Then I'm your worst nightmare.


Sam Witwicky: They gotta mean something. Like a message or like a map. Can you read this?
Skids: Read? Unh uh.
Mudflap: We don't - we don't really do much reading.

Starscream: Cowards do survive...

Sam Witwicky: OPTIMMUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

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plz bring DINOBOT in TF3!!!
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jun 25 2009, 09:21 AM)
Michael Bay wrote the Tranformer 2 script himself I guess...
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Cheesy dialouges too. Transformers 3 better rethink some of the work they have done in Transformers 2. Mikaela stripping - - Bay's way of making them guys drool... doh.gif
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eww my god,another transformers muvi!?
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Transformers was decent fun first time around, but its much less fun after that.
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We got a lot of fight coming our way!!!
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 4 2009, 03:25 PM)
I just hope no more Megatron, some new nemesis in Transformer 3. I amquite sick of Megatron from the cartoons back in 80's/90's...can never die...

Maybe Transformer vs Gundam??
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so true ...
if i am not mistaken ..
decepticons alwayz have the higher end against the autobots in the cartoons at that time ...

if memory serves me correctly ... there is one decepticon which will transform into a big gun for megatron to fire ...
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QUOTE(AngelOfDestruction @ Jun 26 2009, 10:14 AM)
so true ...
if i am not mistaken ..
decepticons alwayz have the higher end against the autobots in the cartoons at that time ...

if memory serves me correctly ... there is one decepticon which will transform into a big gun for megatron to fire ...
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ahahahahahaha

isnt megatron supposed to be a gun ? lol doh.gif
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jun 5 2009, 12:40 AM)
Transformers 3 directed by Ewe Boll... now that would create headlines.. laugh.gif
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and he will include action scenes from the cartoon, just like house of the dead icon_question.gif
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Decepticons are powerless against the Autobots and humans.....they are only there to make Optimus Prime and his posse look cool....haha...
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QUOTE(AngelOfDestruction @ Jun 26 2009, 10:14 AM)
so true ...
if i am not mistaken ..
decepticons alwayz have the higher end against the autobots in the cartoons at that time ...

if memory serves me correctly ... there is one decepticon which will transform into a big gun for megatron to fire ...
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phailed .

megatron is the big gun . and starscream fire it to optimus prime laugh.gif
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aiya..wrong post..ehehehe..hope decepticon not so sissy in next film..

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i read from a website that the writers says that if they are still the one writting the story for transformers 3, its a confirm they will include
dinobots,galvatron and unicorn for sure.

Yes i hope :

Spielberg directs.
More combiners
and autobots its time to show their firepower and they have big guns too.

especially the original cast like landmine, trailbraker,mirage etc....



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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jun 26 2009, 11:05 AM)
i read from a website that the writers says that if they are still the one writting the story for transformers 3,  its a confirm they will include
dinobots,galvatron and unicorn for sure.

Yes i hope :

Spielberg directs.
More combiners
and autobots its time to show their firepower and they have big guns too.

especially the original cast like landmine, trailbraker,mirage etc....
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Autobots dun need landmine, trailbraker, mirage whatever to defeat the decepticons, we, humans have the technology to defeat them, and very soon, as human nature, we will get rid of the Autobots too cos' who wants to share their home with an Alien?

So now we will have Humans Vs Decepticon/Autobots....very soon Obama is gonna capture Prime and Megatron and kick them in their butt for messing around with us. End of the day, both Decepticon and Autobots will make peace with humans. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jun 26 2009, 01:16 PM)
Autobots dun need landmine, trailbraker, mirage whatever to defeat the decepticons, we, humans have the technology to defeat them, and very soon, as human nature, we will get rid of the Autobots too cos' who wants to share their home with an Alien?

So now we will have Humans Vs Decepticon/Autobots....very soon Obama is gonna capture Prime and Megatron and kick them in their butt for messing around with us. End of the day, both Decepticon and Autobots will make peace with humans. biggrin.gif
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haha yes it is soo soo true

as we humans are able to defeat soo many decepticons with just few tanks.

All cons kena wrap up by us

guess you are right.


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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jun 26 2009, 11:05 AM)
i read from a website that the writers says that if they are still the one writting the story for transformers 3,  its a confirm they will include
dinobots,galvatron and unicorn for sure.

Yes i hope :

Spielberg directs.
More combiners
and autobots its time to show their firepower and they have big guns too.

especially the original cast like landmine, trailbraker,mirage etc....
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is this source can trust?
megatron stil havent 'change' by unicorn, so impossible galvatron will appear,
unicorn.. that totally impossible... the earth will die if unicorn is here. unicorn is huge enough , human use nuclear also cant bit it.
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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jun 26 2009, 11:05 AM)
i read from a website that the writers says that if they are still the one writting the story for transformers 3,  its a confirm they will include
dinobots,galvatron and unicorn for sure.

Yes i hope :

Spielberg directs.
More combiners
and autobots its time to show their firepower and they have big guns too.

especially the original cast like landmine, trailbraker,mirage etc....
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QUOTE(future80 @ Jun 26 2009, 06:33 PM)
is this source can trust?
megatron stil havent 'change' by unicorn, so impossible galvatron will appear,
unicorn.. that totally impossible... the earth will die if unicorn is here. unicorn is huge enough , human use nuclear also cant bit it.
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LOL@unicoRn
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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Jun 4 2009, 01:01 PM)
oh come on, Bay has a lot of movies going on for him. I want to see Ridley Scott, James Cameron or Peter Jackson interpretation for TF3. Had enough of starship trooperomers, Wachowski bros also known to be true to their source, and they are more of our generation kind of type.
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lol...the world class director u hav named....i would be happy if any 1 of these direct....i think james can do it real good...since he direct the T2 so damn well...
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what i hope is,

SHOW US MORE FREAKING ROBOT AND LESS HUMAN

DUde, this is a transformer movie, not transformer: Journey of the chosen boy

If TF3 macam animated transformer movie, where MAJORITY OF THE TIME IS SHOWING ROBOTS AND NOT HUMANS!
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 26 2009, 07:05 PM)
what i hope is,

SHOW US MORE FREAKING ROBOT AND LESS HUMAN

DUde, this is a transformer movie, not transformer: Journey of the chosen boy

If TF3 macam animated transformer movie, where MAJORITY OF THE TIME IS SHOWING ROBOTS AND NOT HUMANS!
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 26 2009, 06:46 PM)
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http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html

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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jun 27 2009, 12:51 AM)
He laughed not because he didn't believe you but because of both of you said UNICORN instead of UNICRON.
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haha yeah i know. I quote the wrong wan

wanted to quote - is this source can trust?

that part haha
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Just came back from the 12:40am movie at TS premier seats

Overall it was okay~~Didn't really get the wow factor anymore
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i wanted to watch a movie, not a multimedia animation presentation. if i wanna watch that, i can watch my uni's students' works lolx
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I think the main problem with Transformers 2 is that it tried to be bigger than itself but it was way too grand even for Michael Bay. I love his works honestly, I think he's awesome when it comes to popcorn Hollywood action movies but this one was too big for him to handle. It seemed that there wasn't a real effort in putting a movie sequel. All that was going through Bay's mind was "insert more action, more robots, more humor, I'm set!" Do they really expect us appreciate the "humor" the robots suddenly possess? I didn't know they could speak in accents and hump! Action scenes were way too messy, getting more robots into fights is not the solution Mr. Bay. And my, the script was awful and Sam's entourage seemed to possess this amazing ability to elude falling rocks and debris. Don't get me started with the ridiculous plot. It's almost the same faults I find with the first movie, only worse. I still enjoyed the movie nonetheless, there were some redeeming scenes and there was Megan Fox, nuff said.

2.5/5
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7/10 for me.The CGI is awesome.Most of the fight scene are awesome.

The problems are:
-Too many pointless scenes at the beginning.
-No introduction for Jolt and Sideswipe.Sideswipe is one of my favourite new chracter.Cant see him much.
-Sideways and Devastator just die like that.No introduction for Grindor or Constructicons.
-Jolt didnt even say a word or see him killing anything.So Jolt is there to promote Chevy Volt????
-Feels too rushed in the end
-Plot holes are everywhere.
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dunno if it just me or wat...but the part where optimus fought with the fallen...the CGI looks weird..
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dunno if it just me or wat...but the part where optimus fought with the fallen...the CGI looks weird..
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the cgi needed some work in some scenes.
they lacked detail
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So,we can conclude that this movie is rushed then.

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I hope Bay will slow down his pace a little bit... and keep up the momentum just like TF1
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 27 2009, 12:30 PM)
So,we can conclude that this movie is rushed then.

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some of the cgi scenes reminded me of wolverine's cgi..very cartoonish
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When i first watched the Transformer - the cartoon version, Autobots almost always win in the end... but never as kickass as then in the movie version... Action-wise it was ok...

But there is not robot's character development in the TF2 and you hardly know who is who.... Take out all those redundant human characters like Leo and less time to the Sam's parent (esp the non-essential hostage plot) and give time to introducing the robots... I would love to see more times to robots transforming to their vehicle mode...

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QUOTE(im_bunny @ Jun 27 2009, 01:30 PM)
When i first watched the Transformer - the cartoon version, Autobots almost always win in the end... but never as kickass as then in the movie version... Action-wise it was ok...

But there is not robot's character development in the TF2 and you hardly know who is who.... Take out all those redundant human characters like Leo and less time to the Sam's parent (esp the non-essential hostage plot) and give time to introducing the robots... I would love to see more times to robots transforming to their vehicle mode...
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 27 2009, 11:03 AM)
7/10 for me.The CGI is awesome.Most of the fight scene are awesome.

The problems are:
-Too many pointless scenes at the beginning.
-No introduction for Jolt and Sideswipe.Sideswipe is one of my favourite new chracter.Cant see him much.
-Sideways and Devastator just die like that.No introduction for Grindor or Constructicons.
-Jolt didnt even say a word or see him killing anything.So Jolt is there to promote Chevy Volt????
-Feels too rushed in the end
-Plot holes are everywhere.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jun 27 2009, 01:46 PM)
Bay obviously didn't know what he wanted with this sequel. He didn't focused on the robots, i think he didn't bother in the first place. What he did with the human characters were ok though, I like the parents' scenes but the hostage part was really laughable.
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Spielberg wants this whole trilogy to be about Sam and Bumblebee (a boy and his car)

so from there,we can pretty much figure out how unimportant the transformers are in these movies tongue.gif
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I felt like I was watching Matrix:Reloaded again. Tried to be cool by adding in lots of computer graphics, and in the end failed to follow the spirit of the original movie.

Overall still a good movie, but with so many frustration points that most have pointed out. I'll just sum up my feeling with the following:

Devastator has balls.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 27 2009, 02:12 PM)
Spielberg wants this whole trilogy to be about Sam and Bumblebee (a boy and his car)

so from there,we can pretty much figure out how unimportant the transformers are in these movies tongue.gif
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i seen it today 10:30 at ts
and now i fan of jetfire.. uhuk uhuk

p/s and coward sometimes win uhuk uhuk

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i seen it today 10:30 at ts
and now i fan of jetfire.. uhuk uhuk

p/s and coward sometimes win uhuk uhuk
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Still,completely no introduction for Jolt,the 3 bikes,Sideways,Sideswipe,Constructicons and the list goes on isnt a good thing.Skid and Mudflap were ok,though,but
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I think Starscream is the best thing in the whole movie. He is the only one that stays true to the 80s classic cartoon. When Megatron returned and slammed Starscream into the hatchlings, it really did remind me of the original cartoon biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 27 2009, 02:12 PM)
Spielberg wants this whole trilogy to be about Sam and Bumblebee (a boy and his car)

so from there,we can pretty much figure out how unimportant the transformers are in these movies tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 27 2009, 03:33 PM)
pretty much proves that more characters isnt always good.
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i was abit disappointed/surprised that
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Yeah,and this movie is even messed up than Spiderman 3.It's more like the problem with redundant scenes like the parents one,pretender,Leo etc while Spiderman 3's problem is there is not enough time for proper introduction.Too much were cut,from what i heard.

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tis movie rocks....guys juz watch it for the sake of cgi n awesomeness action...devastor wasnt as tough as u guys think although 1 shot K.O him is pretty too easy....but if u guys watch transformer cartoon b4...u wil know devastator wasnt tat tough...the only problem is Fallen n megatron r simply too weak at tis time....ther is no way optimus can so easily finish them 2.....
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Well my 2 cents on TF2 :

Lots of Robots but lack of who is who compound with cameo appearances just to be shot at eg. Arcee, just namesake but nothing much except being shot at in the end, the mini-truck that snuggles Megan's leg - whatever happened to it?, Decepticons is worst off - multiples baddies but so easy to dispose off by humans and Autobots, the worst culprit is The Fallen (one of the Prime and just there to be killed off easilly), Autobots - apart from Prime and Bumblebee - who got screen-time? ....

Optimus Prime.. wow.. powered up into Optimus Prime Godbomber.. hmmm. interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginrai


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well, optimus didn't finish megatron.. he got away with starscream.. i like what starscream said to megatron, 'my lord, sometimes, cowards do survive' or something like that.. hahaha
perhaps the fallen is too old already, like jetfire.. and since optimus is the youngest prime alive, that's why he can defeat the fallen easily..
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 27 2009, 03:42 PM)
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But yeah, Starscream is great. He was very quiet in TF1, but he really is like the original in TF2. He's Megatron's most loyal dog when Meg is around, but immediately tries to take over power when Meg is gone.

Is it just me, or is Demolishor in the opening scene so grossly oversized? When in his vehicle mode, he looked like a slightly big excavator, but when he transformed, he was as big as Devastator, big enough to eclipse Prime. And what about the 2 Mixmasters? One that combined to become Devastator, and one that got killed by Jetfire?

Of course, if you close your eyes to all the plotholes it is enjoyable. But there are just too many plotholes tongue.gif
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Somehow I feel the last fight Optimus vs The Fallen too short. Not enough kick.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 27 2009, 11:03 AM)
7/10 for me.The CGI is awesome.Most of the fight scene are awesome.

The problems are:
-Too many pointless scenes at the beginning.
-No introduction for Jolt and Sideswipe.Sideswipe is one of my favourite new chracter.Cant see him much.
-Sideways and Devastator just die like that.No introduction for Grindor or Constructicons.
-Jolt didnt even say a word or see him killing anything.So Jolt is there to promote Chevy Volt????
-Feels too rushed in the end
-Plot holes are everywhere.
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Jun 27 2009, 07:10 PM)
Thats is why you need to read the Prequel Movie comic,because they want to milk out IDW comic franchise for Transformers.
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i read it.. but there's still too many plotholes, or whatever you guys called it

1) what happen to Barricade?
2) no introduction of the new autobots? (OOT: Did the white race car died in the end? Damn. Looks like all race car autobots gonna die except bee)
3) whatever happen to the 2 twins? they are doing fine against devastator.. then they got thrown out and just "vanish"?
4) Bee killing 1 decepticons on his own. By right, he is not a great fighter.. no where near that, both in the movie version and cartoon version (he sucks more on the latter :sweatr: )
5) Optimus taking 3 decepticons on his own (including megatron). though he died, but he's not doing too bad considering the damage he dealt before being killed. in the first movie, he cant even take megatron alone
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yup....autobots tis time is serously more powerful than first episode...
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Jun 27 2009, 07:10 PM)
Thats is why you need to read the Prequel Movie comic,because they want to milk out IDW comic franchise for Transformers.
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 27 2009, 07:22 PM)
i read it.. but there's still too many plotholes, or whatever you guys called it

1) what happen to Barricade?
2) no introduction of the new autobots? (OOT: Did the white race car died in the end? Damn. Looks like all race car autobots gonna die except bee)
3) whatever happen to the 2 twins? they are doing fine against devastator.. then they got thrown out and just "vanish"?
4) Bee killing 1 decepticons on his own. By right, he is not a great fighter.. no where near that, both in the movie version and cartoon version (he sucks more on the latter :sweatr: )
5) Optimus taking 3 decepticons on his own (including megatron). though he died, but he's not doing too bad considering the damage he dealt before being killed. in the first movie, he cant even take megatron alone
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yup....autobots tis time is serously more powerful than first episode...
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maybe autobots become stronger after 2 years?
megatron "died" for 2 years..mayb "berkarat" abit alrd..? laugh.gif

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maybe autobots become stronger after 2 years?
megatron "died" for 2 years..mayb "berkarat" abit alrd..? laugh.gif
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Megatron...., triplechargers?
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hmm.. unsure in the cartoon universe but in the movie universe, decepticons is stronger than autobots.

when decept and autobots live together, they are separated into 2. decept is the defense division while autobot is the science division. only ironhide is from defense division


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yup....autobots tis time is serously more powerful than first episode...
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Where to get one?
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bumblebee becomes more matured when he controls the twins

big difference from wat i saw in transformers animated lolz
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i've read the prequel comic.. but no sign of Jolt.. since when Jolt joining autobot in the movie?
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hmm.. at the end of alliance, i think jolt is there (i dunno who jolt is biggrin.gif)

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jolt is a last minute addition to promote the new Volt, so it is only added to the movie, not the prequel, and it just turned out from basically nowhere!!
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nvm...juz bring unicon to the third part...n we shall see the awesomeness....then we shall see decepticons n autobots vs unicon....XD

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hmm.. at the end of alliance, i think jolt is there (i dunno who jolt is biggrin.gif)
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hmm.. how about the 2 other motorbike? who are they?

this is what happen when they simply introduced character to the movie. people who didnt watch the cartoon much will be clueless sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 27 2009, 09:52 PM)
yeap. i LOL-ed seriously at optimus in the first movie as his gun barely damage megatron at all. megatron gun send optimus flying away. now.... his gun can harm megatron
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he was the big bad in the first movie,mar..so must be damn strong.
in the second movie the fallen was the big bad,so he has to be strongest.

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Alright, here's what i wanna say but i spoiler ed it incase some haven't watch yet, so those who watched, you can proceed.

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 27 2009, 10:53 PM)
hmm.. how about the 2 other motorbike? who are they?

this is what happen when they simply introduced character to the movie. people who didnt watch the cartoon much will be clueless sweat.gif
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arcee!!! all 3 bikes are arcee!!! according to wiki, single mind controlling all 3 bikes, they can even combine, although not taken into the movie, possibly story cut off, not sure why though, the toyline however is combinable, and they are given different names, blue chromia and purple so far rumoured to be moonracer.
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was quite disappointed.
the girl in the sam's dorm is totally unacceptable. being able to transform into a human is CHEATING! and The Fallen was great when he was able to "zoom zoom zoom" attacking ppl and climb up the pyramid, but wasn't able to defeat optimus?
And the worse still, were the Primes GOD ?? they can grant sam a life and able to fix the matrix even though they were dead!

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just finished replaying the first movie(and listened to Bay's commentary at the same time)

he's well aware of how well received Transformers was in this country laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Jun 28 2009, 12:34 AM)
was quite disappointed.
the girl in the sam's dorm is totally unacceptable. being able to transform into a human is CHEATING! and The Fallen was great when he was able to "zoom zoom zoom" attacking ppl and climb up the pyramid, but wasn't able to defeat optimus?
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optimus had jetfire's parts grafted onto him,and jetfire himself could "space bridge" so i find it acceptable that the fallen couldnt do jack against Prime.
1.only a prime can kill the fallen (so optimus can kill the fallen from the get go)
2.jetfire has the same teleporting ability as the fallen (couple this with the fact that Prime can kill the fallen,and it makes sense how the fallen's teleporting ability is useless in this fight)

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And the worse still, were the Primes GOD ?? they can grant sam a life and able to fix the matrix even though they were dead!
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QUOTE(zoglandboy @ Jun 28 2009, 12:21 AM)
arcee!!! all 3 bikes are arcee!!! according to wiki, single mind controlling all 3 bikes, they can even combine, although not taken into the movie, possibly story cut off, not sure why though, the toyline however is combinable, and they are given different names, blue chromia and purple so far rumoured to be moonracer.
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pink - arcee
blue - chromia (ironhide's gf)
purple - moonracer


correct me if i'm wrong.
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I need to watch it again in the cineplex..everything was a blur with all the deceps coming out from no where..crap, i wish it was done better then it would out rival Harry Potter..
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Watched the film today in KLCC. Can't say I had the same nerdgasm after getting out of the theatre as with the first movie.

Movie is too long, with fight sequences stretched in between. Could've been better.

I was really irritated when Devastator got smoked by a single hit from a frigging railgun. Where the hell did the railgun came from? Like, we were not told that there was a railgun earlier in the movie, and then just like that Simmons summoned the railgun and killed Devastator. it's like a frigging plot device(well it is).

Laughed real hard when in the museum, Leo made a diversion and stunned himself. Also, when Simmons is directly under Devastator, and reported,"I'm at the scrotum".

Overall the movie is passable.

I wonder, if this movie is made in Malaysia using local vehicles, how would it turn out? I can only imagine several things...

Rempitbots - swarms of suicidal bikebots that are loud and useless.Something like Arcees, but more forgettable. Alt modes - motor kapchai.
Trasher - Token Autobot. Very pessimistic. Prone to puking on others. Alt mode - Lori Sampah (trash truck).
Distort - alt mode Nuri helicopter. Older than Jetfire, less reliable and more prone to crashing, especially in alt mode.
Proton Prime - Sub-sub-sub leader of the local Autobots. Low self esteem due to high expectations from his peers while being physically and mentally crappy. Alt mode Proton Perdana.
Heavy Toll - Greedy Decepticon. Blackmails everyone just for the heck of it. Alt mode - toll booth.
Heavyside - Opportunistic Decepticon. Takes advantages of others' misfortune, be them friend or foe. Alt mode - tow truck.

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 28 2009, 12:43 AM)
optimus had jetfire's parts grafted onto him,and jetfire himself could "space bridge" so i find it acceptable that the fallen couldnt do jack against Prime.
1.only a prime can kill the fallen (so optimus can kill the fallen from the get go)
2.jetfire has the same teleporting ability as the fallen (couple this with the fact that Prime can kill the fallen,and it makes sense how the fallen's teleporting ability is useless in this fight)

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With Jetfire parts.. Optimus became Gundam Prime Wing Zero. Of course the decepticons don't stand a chance tongue.gif

But seriously, I enjoyed the movie but it's really too much Sam, Sam and Sam when it should really be about the Autobots and Decepticons.
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That was good! You forgot to add Myvi- Dependable like Bumble Bee! heheh..
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this movie if without Megan Fox bouncing scene, it is just...normal

only the CGI and Megan Fox that impress me...hahahaha
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QUOTE(Sodrohu @ Jun 28 2009, 01:19 AM)
Watched the film today in KLCC. Can't say I had the same nerdgasm after getting out of the theatre as with the first movie.

Movie is too long, with fight sequences stretched in between. Could've been better.

I was really irritated when Devastator got smoked by a single hit from a frigging railgun. Where the hell did the railgun came from? Like, we were not told that there was a railgun earlier in the movie, and then just like that Simmons summoned the railgun and killed Devastator. it's like a frigging plot device(well it is).

Laughed real hard when in the museum, Leo made a diversion and stunned himself. Also, when Simmons is directly under Devastator, and reported,"I'm at the scrotum".

Overall the movie is passable.

I wonder, if this movie is made in Malaysia using local vehicles, how would it turn out? I can only imagine several things...

Rempitbots - swarms of suicidal bikebots that are loud and useless.Something like Arcees, but more forgettable. Alt modes - motor kapchai.
Trasher - Token Autobot. Very pessimistic. Prone to puking on others. Alt mode - Lori Sampah (trash truck).
Distort - alt mode Nuri helicopter. Older than Jetfire, less reliable and more prone to crashing, especially in alt mode.
Proton Prime - Sub-sub-sub leader of the local Autobots. Low self esteem due to high expectations from his peers while being physically and mentally crappy. Alt mode Proton Perdana.
Heavy Toll - Greedy Decepticon. Blackmails everyone just for the heck of it. Alt mode - toll booth.
Heavyside - Opportunistic Decepticon. Takes advantages of others' misfortune, be them friend or foe. Alt mode - tow truck.
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When last movie was out, I have a more serious suggestion

Optimus Prime - transformed into a Hicom Perkasa MTB 150 DXL Super Commando (our largest national truck)
Ironhide - transformed into a Proton Arena (our local pickup)
Ratchet - transformed into a Proton Juara (Bulan Sabit Merah Style)
Jazz - transformed into Lotus Elise (Proton Putra is another choice but not so good looking for Jazz)
Bumblebee - transformed into an old Proton Satria initially before evolving into Proton Satria Neo GTi Concept

now with new characters added:

Sideswipe - could transform into a Lotus Europa-S (or same car with the Proton Ultimate Concept as name?)
Arcee - 3 modenas or naza motors
Twins - Myvi SE and Zerokit Savvy (or a smaller choice is Kelisa and Kancil)
Jolt - I dono, Gen2 perhaps??
Jetfire - we have a national plane, remember? The Eagle Aircraft 150B
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QUOTE(zoglandboy @ Jun 28 2009, 01:50 AM)
When last movie was out, I have a more serious suggestion

Optimus Prime - transformed into a Hicom Perkasa MTB 150 DXL Super Commando (our largest national truck)
Ironhide - transformed into a Proton Arena (our local pickup)
Ratchet - transformed into a Proton Juara (Bulan Sabit Merah Style)
Jazz - transformed into Lotus Elise (Proton Putra is another choice but not so good looking for Jazz)
Bumblebee - transformed into an old Proton Satria initially before evolving into Proton Satria Neo GTi Concept

now with new characters added:

Sideswipe - could transform into a Lotus Europa-S (or same car with the Proton Ultimate Concept as name?)
Arcee - 3 modenas or naza motors
Twins - Myvi SE and Zerokit Savvy (or a smaller choice is Kelisa and Kancil)
Jolt - I dono, Gen2 perhaps??
Jetfire - we have a national plane, remember? The Eagle Aircraft 150B
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sucky movie 6/10
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The whole part during the fight scene in Egypt is more like a show case of America's modern warfare technology. And yes, rail gun does exist.

Come to think of it, I haven't feel much more insulted since the the movie 10,000 B.C.
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QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Jun 28 2009, 02:00 AM)
The whole part during the fight scene in Egypt is more like a show case of America's modern warfare technology. And yes, rail gun does exist.

Come to think of it, I haven't feel much more insulted since the the movie 10,000 B.C.
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Added on June 28, 2009, 2:13 amOh wait, i thought you were talking about Transformers 2, damn.

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Which brings to another point. In part 1, whole base get tarpau'ed by just 1 Decepticon but this time multiple decepticons kena bomb spam by a B-1B and some F16's.
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Which brings to another point. In part 1, whole base get tarpau'ed by just 1 Decepticon but this time multiple decepticons kena bomb spam by a B-1B and some F16's.
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according to the comic prequel, the humans and autobots had upgraded their weapon with each other's technology (what the heck can autobots gained from our tech? doh.gif). well, i accept the fact despite the autobot gaining from human parts. I believe IronHide upgraded Prime blaster to a point where he can damage megatron with it (i wonder why he didnt do it before. hmmm.. maybe after saw how ineffective prime blaster when he fight megatrons in TF1)
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Well... I liked it better than I thought I would.

And I definitely think it's better than the first... though, not by design. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 27 2009, 11:16 PM)
he was the big bad in the first movie,mar..so must be damn strong.
in the second movie the fallen was the big bad,so he has to be strongest.

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thats what i thought at first as well... Prime change to ss4 ==


QUOTE(radio_8888 @ Jun 27 2009, 11:23 PM)
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this has become the only reason left for people to rewatch TF2

QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Jun 28 2009, 12:34 AM)
was quite disappointed.
the girl in the sam's dorm is totally unacceptable. being able to transform into a human is CHEATING! and The Fallen was great when he was able to "zoom zoom zoom" attacking ppl and climb up the pyramid, but wasn't able to defeat optimus?
And the worse still, were the Primes GOD ?? they can grant sam a life and able to fix the matrix even though they were dead!
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Copied from terminator.. damn it MB, TF DOES NOT NEED TERMINATOR

about the matrix part (funny how small it is now compared to the original matrix.. but that is in another universe biggrin.gif), they did not repaired it. I believe Sam earned the matrix. about the ress, im not sure.. maybe the matrix give him his life back? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zoglandboy @ Jun 28 2009, 01:50 AM)
When last movie was out, I have a more serious suggestion

Optimus Prime - transformed into a Hicom Perkasa MTB 150 DXL Super Commando (our largest national truck)
Ironhide - transformed into a Proton Arena (our local pickup)
Ratchet - transformed into a Proton Juara (Bulan Sabit Merah Style)
Jazz - transformed into Lotus Elise (Proton Putra is another choice but not so good looking for Jazz)
Bumblebee - transformed into an old Proton Satria initially before evolving into Proton Satria Neo GTi Concept

now with new characters added:

Sideswipe - could transform into a Lotus Europa-S (or same car with the Proton Ultimate Concept as name?)
Arcee - 3 modenas or naza motors
Twins - Myvi SE and Zerokit Savvy (or a smaller choice is Kelisa and Kancil)
Jolt - I dono, Gen2 perhaps??
Jetfire - we have a national plane, remember? The Eagle Aircraft 150B
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Ooo...I'm just diong this for fun, but if you wanna get serious by all means please do...

Continuing on local Transformers, now with non-vehicles...

Cleanser - Honourable Autobot. Strongly against playing dirty. Alt mode Singer washing machine.
Splurge - Decepticon's resident chemist expert. Very crazy. Alt mode Yeo's vending machine.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 02:37 AM)
Well... I liked it better than I thought I would.

And I definitely think it's better than the first... though, not by design.  biggrin.gif
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yeap... at least even in prime battle against 3, i can clearly see each robots differently

unlike in TF1 where Prime kill his 1st decept, i can hardly differentiate between the 2
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 28 2009, 02:44 AM)
yeap... at least even in prime battle against 3, i can clearly see each robots differently

unlike in TF1 where Prime kill his 1st decept, i can hardly differentiate between the 2
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QUOTE(Sodrohu @ Jun 28 2009, 02:44 AM)
Ooo...I'm just diong this for fun, but if you wanna get serious by all means please do...

Continuing on local Transformers, now with non-vehicles...

Cleanser - Honourable Autobot. Strongly against playing dirty. Alt mode Singer washing machine.
Splurge - Decepticon's resident chemist expert. Very crazy. Alt mode Yeo's vending machine.
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Frenzy - Pensonic Radio.....
Soundave - Measat.......
Barricade - Waja Police Car

lol......
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 28 2009, 02:24 AM)
Which brings to another point. In part 1, whole base get tarpau'ed by just 1 Decepticon but this time multiple decepticons kena bomb spam by a B-1B and some F16's.
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i remembered in part 1 where lennox and team discovered that transformers is vulnerable to something called sabot and hence they used sabot rounds from there onwards

QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 28 2009, 02:42 AM)
thats what i thought at first as well... Prime change to ss4 ==
this has become the only reason left for people to rewatch TF2
Copied from terminator.. damn it MB, TF DOES NOT NEED TERMINATOR

about the matrix part (funny how small it is now compared to the original matrix.. but that is in another universe biggrin.gif), they did not repaired it. I believe Sam earned the matrix. about the ress, im not sure.. maybe the matrix give him his life back?  sweat.gif
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part 1 during the decepticon heli landing at the SOCCENT base, there's already a scene where the heli pilot transform back and forth between the robotic and human forms.


I watched the movie on the second day of screening. Overall one of the best movie i ever had as this movie combined action, touching moments and hilarious into one package like never before. However the scene where sam died and revived is lebih.

I however very dissatisfied with GSC. Being a THX certified hall (1U hall 2 and 3), hall 3 had some loose roof that vibrate together with the bass and create annoying sound while hall 2 had some projector issue where bottom 20% is darker than the rest.

I also discovered that during the dessert scene where sam holding mikaela running away from decepticon's blasting, there's a few corrupted CG frames. LoL.
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 28 2009, 02:35 AM)
according to the comic prequel, the humans and autobots had upgraded their weapon with each other's technology (what the heck can autobots gained from our tech? doh.gif). well, i accept the fact despite the autobot gaining from human parts. I believe IronHide upgraded Prime blaster to a point where he can damage megatron with it (i wonder why he didnt do it before. hmmm.. maybe after saw how ineffective prime blaster when he fight megatrons in TF1)
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but prime says in the beginning of the movie that they dont trust the humans enough to give them knowledge of cybertron tech.
one minute say cannot,another minute say can.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Jun 28 2009, 03:01 AM)
iI however very dissatisfied with GSC. Being a THX certified hall (1U hall 2 and 3), hall 3 had some loose roof that vibrate together with the bass and create annoying sound while hall 2 had some projector issue where bottom 20% is darker than the rest.
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I watched the movie in Pavillion THX Hall, the dialogues were not loud enough. Is that how THX sound like?

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 28 2009, 03:06 AM)
I watched the movie in Pavillion THX Hall, the dialogues were not loud enough. Is that how THX sound like?
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shouldn't be. the one i watched was loud and clear biggrin.gif

i wonder when is the last time the THX fellow was here to examine the hall doh.gif
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dow the storyline its bit blur, its not tat bad really.....how can u say its bad after 2 and half hour of non stop CGI action and hawt Megan Fox...8/10

Dragon Ball Evolution, tats bad.....(no wait tat not bad, tat something else)....

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fvck.... to the guys in LYN, transformers 2 is all about Megan Fox......
watch the bots man, THE BOTS! (not the booties!)
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i watched at pavillion too...the sound effect totally beat other gsc branches off.....the best hall apart from gold class at pavilion is hall 3 n hall 4...
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QUOTE(zoglandboy @ Jun 27 2009, 10:16 PM)
jolt is a last minute addition to promote the new Volt, so it is only added to the movie, not the prequel, and it just turned out from basically nowhere!!
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He's really wtf.Didnt say a word and appear so little. doh.gif

At least show him killing Long Haul la. doh.gif Would be damn cool,though.

QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Jun 28 2009, 02:00 AM)
The whole part during the fight scene in Egypt is more like a show case of America's modern warfare technology. And yes, rail gun does exist.

Come to think of it, I haven't feel much more insulted since the the movie 10,000 B.C.
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Unfortunately,it looks more like a C&C3 GDI Rail Gun than a real one. doh.gif
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This movie dragged too long with many unnessary plot, and not many screen with Starscream.

Well, never did like the design for Starscream in the movie, the cartoon design looks much better.

Score: 5/10

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Not sure posted before...
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_...faqs.php?page=1


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It is really beyond my expectations...In my opinion, it is much better than part 1 because the fighting scene are extremely well-done

the animation movement was so fluid and consistent... and there are one major improvement over the part 1 is , I actually can identified the robot difference when all of them fighting.

and why is Optimus Prime so kickass in this series? since when he become so good? He actually hold himself well against 3 Decepticons....

anyways, Transformer is Bleach of the manga....Minimun Storyline, All Action and Design...

So yeah, if you want to enjoy this movie to the fullest, turn off your brain. biggrin.gif
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yeah.. turn off ur brain.. n enjoyy!!

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 28 2009, 12:23 PM)
Quite true.

The entire storyline doesnt even make sense.

How the hell they run from a city to a forest in a short time?

I felt most of the scenes are there because they have to be there.

Can i say Michael Bay raped my childhood cartoon?

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just want to share with you ROTF comics .. its ok if u have read it..


Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation

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QUOTE(hanifw @ Jun 28 2009, 01:23 PM)
just want to share with you ROFL comics .. its ok if u have read it..
Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation
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did what?


Added on June 28, 2009, 1:37 pmdont u guys want to read/know about it too?

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Okay, here's my jillion dollar question;

What happened to Soundwave after the rally call for the decepticons?
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Okay, here's my jillion dollar question;

What happened to Soundwave after the rally call for the decepticons?
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Dunno,just like what happen to Mudflap and Skids after they mess around on Devastator.They just disappear.

ROTF have "awesome" writing.
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QUOTE(Wira Hikari @ Jun 28 2009, 01:53 PM)
Okay, here's my jillion dollar question;

What happened to Soundwave after the rally call for the decepticons?
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hmm.. i think MB wants soundwave to do his intelligence interception job only and not getting into the fight


Added on June 28, 2009, 2:37 pmfor those who asked TF prequel comic from me, im uploading it to MU now.. will post the link here later

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 28 2009, 03:02 AM)
but prime says in the beginning of the movie that they dont trust the humans enough to give them knowledge of cybertron tech.
one minute say cannot,another minute say can.. doh.gif

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in the novel they shared some intel about weakspots and also armour, and a few pointers how to make the human artilleray better at attacking decepticons,there were 2 scientists that were using a mini emp gun to sting macerator,that rendered his guns useless but this emp stings have to be administered at close range. They used alot of prototype guns and stuffs on decepticons in Transformers: The veiled threat, the decepticons even made Optimus get washed away by Angel Falls. However even in the novel,the autobots never revealed how their weapon system functioned,they just say they have the ability to generate unlimited amount of firepower at a given time, the guy in the movie specifically asked about how the weapon system worked and optimus was reluctant to share knowledge about it. I think, sector seven knows all this stuff but thanks to simmons,all their research is in his hands only so NEST has to start everything from scratch.


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Okay, here's my jillion dollar question;

What happened to Soundwave after the rally call for the decepticons?
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he just stayed on the US military satellite, he must have left with Megatron and Starscream, they might make this a fact on the next novel just what they did with Barricade's disappearance from the first movie.


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I mentioned this in my review on my blog, but I'm raising it here, just to see what you guys think.

This is not a Transformers movie.

Remember Transformers? G1, or Beast Wars, or Armada, or any of the cartoons? Who were the characters? The robots. Who were the heroes? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, etc. Who were the villains? Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc.

Who's the hero of this movie? Shia LaBeouf. Who is Bumblebee? He's the hero's car. Who is Megatron? Second fiddle to another robot. Who is Starscream? A robot who has a little more screen time than the others. Who is Optimus Prime? A hunk of metal for LaBeouf to stick a Plot Device into.

The robots are not characters. They're MacGuffins.

So no, this is not a Transformers movie. This is a Shia-LaBeouf-Megan-Fox-and-some-giant-robots movie.

And because I realized this, I managed to enjoy it. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 04:39 PM)
I mentioned this in my review on my blog, but I'm raising it here, just to see what you guys think.

This is not a Transformers movie.

Remember Transformers? G1, or Beast Wars, or Armada, or any of the cartoons? Who were the characters? The robots. Who were the heroes? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, etc. Who were the villains? Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc.

Who's the hero of this movie? Shia LaBeouf. Who is Bumblebee? He's the hero's car. Who is Megatron? Second fiddle to another robot. Who is Starscream? A robot who has a little more screen time than the others. Who is Optimus Prime? A hunk of metal for LaBeouf to stick a Plot Device into.

The robots are not characters. They're MacGuffins.

So no, this is not a Transformers movie. This is a Shia-LaBeouf-Megan-Fox-and-some-giant-robots movie.

And because I realized this, I managed to enjoy it.  biggrin.gif
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u do remember transformers G1 cartoons got spike witwicky rite?? human boy who knows those robots...which in the movie he's known as sam witwicky?

this's still transformers...the way they adapted it made it hard for hardcore fans to swallow (well...any series hardcore fans never does n never will)...

for me...it's still an entertaining movie...storyline kinda jumbled all over the place n the scenes was really chaotic at times...but the special effects was too awesome to bash this movie entirely...
3.8/5

special effects does not make a movie great...but it makes ROTF awesome n worth watching!!! whistling.gif

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 04:39 PM)
I mentioned this in my review on my blog, but I'm raising it here, just to see what you guys think.

This is not a Transformers movie.

Remember Transformers? G1, or Beast Wars, or Armada, or any of the cartoons? Who were the characters? The robots. Who were the heroes? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, etc. Who were the villains? Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc.

Who's the hero of this movie? Shia LaBeouf. Who is Bumblebee? He's the hero's car. Who is Megatron? Second fiddle to another robot. Who is Starscream? A robot who has a little more screen time than the others. Who is Optimus Prime? A hunk of metal for LaBeouf to stick a Plot Device into.

The robots are not characters. They're MacGuffins.

So no, this is not a Transformers movie. This is a Shia-LaBeouf-Megan-Fox-and-some-giant-robots movie.

And because I realized this, I managed to enjoy it.  biggrin.gif
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i disagree, its still transformers movie, there are so many versions of the story,even the comic books,novels and cartoon series depict different settings, different characters, different timeline. This transformers franchise is loosely based on all the prior works,the problem with transformers even before the movie adaptation is because of different authors penning different takes on the story, take Transformers: The War Within for example it talks about how optimus as a researcher being given the title prime by the council, and him disputing that there is no sub conscious called Prime in their mainframe, he even asks all the autobots to evacuate cybertron calling the war not worth fighting for, making the de facto leader grimlock angry. In the series its way different as after optimus dies,grimlock the leader of the dinobots control the autobots there. In order to fully understand a movie which is based on all this different storyline is something hard to do, and if you were to make a remake of an already established series isnt that repetition? whats the fun in that? didnt we see that movie in the 80ies?. Ermm The fallen has already been established as the first decepticon ever made, read the novels, he was even instrumental in taking over Cybertron when Optimus and Megatron went missing via the Space Bridge freak accident, Jetfire was in charge of the autobots then.

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Huh ? 1/7/11 for Transformers 3 ?

I thought Michael Bay taking a break and releasing it 2012 ? (Just as I predicted... tongue.gif ) ?


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I mentioned this in my review on my blog, but I'm raising it here, just to see what you guys think.

This is not a Transformers movie.

Remember Transformers? G1, or Beast Wars, or Armada, or any of the cartoons? Who were the characters? The robots. Who were the heroes? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, etc. Who were the villains? Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc.

Who's the hero of this movie? Shia LaBeouf. Who is Bumblebee? He's the hero's car. Who is Megatron? Second fiddle to another robot. Who is Starscream? A robot who has a little more screen time than the others. Who is Optimus Prime? A hunk of metal for LaBeouf to stick a Plot Device into.

The robots are not characters. They're MacGuffins.

So no, this is not a Transformers movie. This is a Shia-LaBeouf-Megan-Fox-and-some-giant-robots movie.

And because I realized this, I managed to enjoy it.  biggrin.gif
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special effects does not make a movie great...but it makes ROTF awesome n worth watching!!! whistling.gif
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 04:39 PM)
I mentioned this in my review on my blog, but I'm raising it here, just to see what you guys think.

This is not a Transformers movie.

Remember Transformers? G1, or Beast Wars, or Armada, or any of the cartoons? Who were the characters? The robots. Who were the heroes? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet, etc. Who were the villains? Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, etc.

Who's the hero of this movie? Shia LaBeouf. Who is Bumblebee? He's the hero's car. Who is Megatron? Second fiddle to another robot. Who is Starscream? A robot who has a little more screen time than the others. Who is Optimus Prime? A hunk of metal for LaBeouf to stick a Plot Device into.

The robots are not characters. They're MacGuffins.

So no, this is not a Transformers movie. This is a Shia-LaBeouf-Megan-Fox-and-some-giant-robots movie.

And because I realized this, I managed to enjoy it.  biggrin.gif
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Actually i think the human characters are integral to the storyline. After all, the robots are fighting each other not on Cybertron, which is their home planet, but on Earth, where humans rule. Ultimately, they're bound to make contact with some of them, since even in disguise, it's hard to really keep themselves secret. If they wage an all-out war (which they did in ROTF), it's gonna involve not just them Deceps and Autos, but humans as well.

That being said, I still agree that Shia, Megan, Lennox and company stole the limelight too many times in the movie.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 27 2009, 10:39 AM)
just finished replaying the first movie(and listened to Bay's commentary at the same time)

he's well aware of how well received Transformers was in this country laugh.gif
got abit of a shock hearing him say "Malaysia"
gotta love it when a country is recognized for overwhelming reception of....a Bay movie.
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a contradictory statement if i ever heard one
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contradictory yes...but agreeable...
mainly because the CGI itself is characters (aliens) that's not human/3D cartoons (as in pixar/dreamworks animated movies)...terminators in Terminator Salvation is MacGuffins cause the're robots...

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More on TF:ROTF(or was it ROLF?)....

Consistency errors: When Sam and company, the twins and Bee were teleported by Jetfire, they ended up in somewhere in Egypt. Later, they drove all da way to Giza, where the pyramids are. Figuring out what the clue pointed to, they went to the other ancient ruins, which is in Petra, Jordan. By driving. Later, they went back to Egypt, also by driving.

How the hell can you go from Egypt to Jordan and then Egypt back in a small amount of time simply by driving? Last I checked they only spent a single night in Egypt when they arrived there, before going to petra the next day.

And how come when the Americans start showing up and battling the Deceps in Egypt, there are no signs of the local Egyptian army? Everywhere it's just the Americans and more Americans. Granted, some Egyptian helicopters arrived to help Leo and Simmons and got shot down, but ho about the main battle.

Sorry for the rant, but I need to release a bit. yeah, I'm cool now.
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There are heaps of consistency problems in the movie.

Thats why i say you should just turn off your brain and watch.
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ROTF means Roll On The Floor?

they were in jordan, not egypt when the final battle was on... the command centre asked for a clearance from the jordanian or something like that and the jordanian forces sent some puny helicopters
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Transformers: Roll On The Floor

Thats a good one.

I thought it was hilarious when Sam was screaming like a girl when he was attacked in the room.
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QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 28 2009, 06:45 PM)
ROTF means Roll On The Floor?

they were in jordan, not egypt when the final battle was on... the command centre asked for a clearance from the jordanian or something like that and the jordanian forces sent some puny helicopters
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 28 2009, 06:45 PM)
There are heaps of consistency problems in the movie.

Thats why i say you should just turn off your brain and watch.
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Kinda too late for that, but thanks anyhow.

QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 28 2009, 06:45 PM)
ROTF means Roll On The Floor?

they were in jordan, not egypt when the final battle was on... the command centre asked for a clearance from the jordanian or something like that and the jordanian forces sent some puny helicopters
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Oh. Makes sense now. Still, the sight of ungodly amount of American forces on foreign land practically blowing up stuff and destroying things does send a worrying message. It's like they're saying,"Mess with America, get screwed sideways".
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 28 2009, 04:45 AM)
There are heaps of consistency problems in the movie.

Thats why i say you should just turn off your brain and watch.
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QUOTE(Sodrohu @ Jun 28 2009, 06:54 PM)
Kinda too late for that, but thanks anyhow.
Oh. Makes sense now. Still, the sight of ungodly amount of American forces on foreign land practically blowing up stuff and destroying things does send a worrying message. It's like they're saying,"Mess with America, get screwed sideways".
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isnt that what they are doing in Iran and Afghan in the war lol? people keep forgetting its an american movie plus MB wouldnt have gotten those shots with military gear if not for the US military willingness to contribute for some promotional purposes through Bay's movies. If they shot in Malaysia,and the Malaysian military gave their equipment as props wouldnt that say something along the lines of "mess with Malaysia get screwed sideways?" on second thought, with Malaysian jets and choppers going down for mysterious reasons i doubt Bay would ever use any of our gear tongue.gif
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Funny that the American 'represented' the earth planet, asking Autobots to leave earth. America, representative of the Earth!
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i disagree, its still  transformers movie, there are so many versions of the story,even the comic books,novels and cartoon series depict different settings, different characters, different timeline.
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And in all of them, the robots are the main characters. Even Spike Witwicky, who was in the original '80s cartoon, was only a minor character. It was the robots whose stories we followed, who had personalities, who had character, and whom the audience cared about.

But Michael Bay doesn't think so. He did not give personalities to any of the robots. He barely allocated enough screen time to develop them. Bumblebee has no voice. Megatron is no longer the Decepticon leader. Ironhide gets barely 2 lines of dialogue. Every other robot is nothing more than a background special effect.

That's why there are so many dumb robots, like Frenzy from the first movie, or the Doctor from this one, or Wheelie, or the Pretender chick. They're not cool, nobody cares about them, nobody wanted to see them, and they don't even make good toys. And that's why Wheelie and the Twins disappear so suddenly. They may be annoying, but we've been following them for the entire second act - but Bay just doesn't care about them. On the other hand, he makes sure to show us that Leo is okay at the end of the movie.

Look at the robots' faces. Every one of them. They're incapable of displaying emotion. We can't tell if they're smiling, or angry, or scared, or worried. They're not characters. They're...

QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jun 28 2009, 05:50 PM)
Wrong. The MacGuffin is the dagger. Doesn't make the movie any less terrible but yea.
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...well, a movie can have more than one MacGuffin. tongue.gif But perhaps MacGuffin isn't the right term to describe them. How about... they're plot devices.

Not characters.




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QUOTE(ifer @ Jun 28 2009, 06:45 PM)


they were in jordan, not egypt when the final battle was on... the command centre asked for a clearance from the jordanian or something like that and the jordanian forces sent some puny helicopters
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u already mention clearance

meaning they just need permission for their awacs i assume to fly into their territory thats all

btw watch it 2nd time at cosmo theater .... terrible sound system....really really terrible
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:12 PM)
And in all of them, the robots are the main characters. Even Spike Witwicky, who was in the original '80s cartoon, was only a minor character. It was the robots whose stories we followed, who had personalities, who had character, and whom the audience cared about.
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Spike wasnt a minor character mate, remember bumblebee begged his family to fix him up and also optimus passed him the creation matrix which he gave life to Jetfire, there is so many instances where Buster helped the autobots and vice versa especially his dad Sparkplug who also managed to modify the autobots to process raw fuel as energy at the absence of energon, i feel that the novels,comic books and the series has given me an in depth information about the autobots and the decepticons not to mention the predacons aswell, some of us dont need repetition again like i stressed who would want to watch something repetitive?

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:12 PM)
But Michael Bay doesn't think so. He did not give personalities to any of the robots. He barely allocated enough screen time to develop them. Bumblebee has no voice. Megatron is no longer the Decepticon leader. Ironhide gets barely 2 lines of dialogue. Every other robot is nothing more than a background special effect.
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Ermm, well i dont know this is very subjective i can see all the facial expression even on the first movie especially optimus's worried face, in one scene where he asks sam to come down while looking for the glasses. Bumblebee can speak at the end of the movie he says, "permission to speak sir,i wish to stay with the boy", in the second movie Mikaela asks Sam if Bumblebee's voice is acting up again. Even in the Transformer: The War Within its been revealed that The fallen is the bad ass,the first bad ass decepticon, dont worry that doesnt mean Megatron is just a protege only, he is the current leader anyways. Ermm didnt Ironhide speak in all shots involving him? Well if there are 20 robots fighting each other,its quite hard to give each and everyone of em screen time to intro themselves,IMHO thats what the supplementary novels and past work like series and comic books are for.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:12 PM)
That's why there are so many dumb robots, like Frenzy from the first movie, or the Doctor from this one, or Wheelie, or the Pretender chick. They're not cool, nobody cares about them, nobody wanted to see them, and they don't even make good toys. And that's why Wheelie and the Twins disappear so suddenly. They may be annoying, but we've been following them for the entire second act - but Bay just doesn't care about them. On the other hand, he makes sure to show us that Leo is okay at the end of the movie.
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Ermm Frenzy has been around since G1 la brader, read the Marvel Transformers, Buster defeats him with a robot suit made by ironhide. Doctor is not dumb he is just merely a tool, more like a ratchet on the decepticon side but smaller. Well choices in a movie is up to the screen script writers, i felt those scenes were nice but you feel otherwise so its truly subjective.

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:12 PM)
Look at the robots' faces. Every one of them. They're incapable of displaying emotion. We can't tell if they're smiling, or angry, or scared, or worried. They're not characters. They're...
...well, a movie can have more than one MacGuffin.  tongue.gif  But perhaps MacGuffin isn't the right term to describe them. How about... they're plot devices.

Not characters.
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Ermm, not really, dont agree with your notion that they dont have facial expression remember,in the tv series its 2D if there are no expressions in 3D,then there are relatively no expression in 2D. Theres a high detail of expression on all the main characters especially Optimus,Bumblebee,Megatron,Starscream,The twins and all of em. I gave one example above, there are many scenes that potray facial expression but again they are relatively alien robots so i dont think its okay for us to assume they would also developed a set of non verbal expression? hell that'll make them human like no?

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what is this macguffin u lot been talking about? it's making me hungry for a cheeseburger..
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MacGuffin
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Out of all the big summer blockbusters I watched this decade, this is the worst.

Yes, I'm a Transformers fan.
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who is the Leo everyone's talking about?

Leo Prime? i found this in google but i dont think he is the one you guys are referring to
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who is the Leo everyone's talking about?

Leo Prime? i found this in google but i dont think he is the one you guys are referring to
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who is the Leo everyone's talking about?

Leo Prime? i found this in google but i dont think he is the one you guys are referring to
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 08:12 PM)
...well, a movie can have more than one MacGuffin.  tongue.gif  But perhaps MacGuffin isn't the right term to describe them. How about... they're plot devices.

Not characters.
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whoever said they couldn't be characters?
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whoever said they couldn't be characters?
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I didn't say they couldn't be characters. They certainly could, and probably should. I say they're not characters, because Michael Bay doesn't treat them like characters. smile.gif
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 09:59 PM)
I didn't say they couldn't be characters. They certainly could, and probably should. I say they're not characters, because Michael Bay doesn't treat them like characters.  smile.gif
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Then what does he treat them (if by them, you mean Autobots) like?
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For the significant ones, plot devices. All the rest, special effects.



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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:09 PM)
For the significant ones, plot devices. All the rest, special effects.
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Mind explaining how are the Autobots plot devices? I thought the Allspark fragment and Harvester were plot devices?
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Mind explaining how are the Autobots plot devices? I thought the Allspark fragment and Harvester were plot devices?
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Again, they have no personality, nor are they capable of expressing any emotion. They are not characters. What else could they be?




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Again, they have no personality, nor are they capable of expressing any emotion. They are not characters. What else could they be?
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Bumblebee and Prime are characters. They have personality. Their lack of it doesn't make them plot devices. The lack of personality among the characters in TF2 is just down to bad writing.


Added on June 28, 2009, 10:33 pmIf it doesn't advance the story, I find it hard to believe it can be a plot device.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:28 PM)
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Again, they have no personality, nor are they capable of expressing any emotion. They are not characters. What else could they be?
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i disagree, even toy story, "they" being the toy they still do function as characters...

if u'd say gundams are not characters then yes, as the pilots are the characters and it depends on them on how the gundam fights and moves...

as for transformers, they are living robot tissue... how could something living not be a character? michael could have done better in the 2nd movie but he kind of failed to... yet it is still somewhat a good movie

imo, transformers 1 will still leave a strong memory compared to its sequel

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Will you say Buster Keaton isn't a character but a plot device? NONE of the characters he play show any emotion.

The fact that Autobots personify certain values such as justice and compassion make them characters. Though they do not undergo any change in expression, they stand for values which make them flat characters.

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Bumblebee and Prime are characters. They have personality. Their lack of it doesn't make them plot devices. The lack of personality among the characters in TF2 is just down to bad writing.


Added on June 28, 2009, 10:33 pmIf it doesn't advance the story, I find it hard to believe it can be a plot device.
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But that's literally the only thing they do - advance the plot.

There's certainly plenty of bad writing in the movie, but I don't think that's why the robots have no personality. Even that annoying Leo and the Tyrese Gibson character have more personality than the robots.

I think it's because Michael Bay deliberately made them that way. It's the basis for his entire approach to the franchise. He's purposely making Transformers movies in which the Transformers are not characters.

Everything about how the movies portray them fits this interpretation.


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thats because the robots only appear when they do battle with one another. You cant expect much characterization from Random Transformer no. 14 when he is getting his butt kicked by Random Transformer no. 42.

I see noob13 is criticizing the movie more than praising it despite the 3 stars. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:51 PM)
But that's literally the only thing they do - advance the plot.

There's certainly plenty of bad writing in the movie, but I don't think that's why the robots have no personality. Even that annoying Leo and the Tyrese Gibson character have more personality than the robots.

I think it's because Michael Bay deliberately made them that way. It's the basis for his entire approach to the franchise. He's purposely making Transformers movies in which the Transformers are not characters.

Everything about how the movies portray them fits this interpretation.
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No it doesn't.

Just because human characters are more expressive doesn't mean they have more personality. All the characters in Transformers are one dimensional. He doesn't purposely make Transformers movies in which Transformers AREN'T characters because they are characters. If they aren't, you won't see that many Bumblebee-Sam scenes and the 'development' of their relationship.

The core of the story is 'a story about a boy and his car' so the car is a character. And as mentioned, they do stand for certain values and have showed emotion making them characters.
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hey you two should combine instead and let the fanboys (there are more than enough) to defend the movie tongue.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jun 28 2009, 10:55 PM)
thats because the robots only appear when they do battle with one another. You cant expect much characterization from Random Transformer no. 14 when he is getting his butt kicked by Random Transformer no. 42.

I see noob13 is criticizing the movie more than praising it despite the 3 stars. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:51 PM)
But that's literally the only thing they do - advance the plot.

There's certainly plenty of bad writing in the movie, but I don't think that's why the robots have no personality. Even that annoying Leo and the Tyrese Gibson character have more personality than the robots.

I think it's because Michael Bay deliberately made them that way. It's the basis for his entire approach to the franchise. He's purposely making Transformers movies in which the Transformers are not characters.

Everything about how the movies portray them fits this interpretation.
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I AGree with u.

But i guess they cant make a movie where the majority of the time is showing the robots, guess its takes too much time and too much work and budget.
But SRSLY, reduce all the human dramas, im more interested in the robots than making them look like some gundams who can talk.
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The core of the story is 'a story about a boy and his car' so the car is a character.
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That's just what they say in the press junkets. smile.gif Do you honestly think that came across in both movies?

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I see noob13 is criticizing the movie more than praising it despite the 3 stars. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:03 PM)

I enjoyed the movie
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:03 PM)
That's just what they say in the press junkets.  smile.gif  Do you honestly think that came across in both movies?
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Yes. There were quite a fair few scenes.

And that doesn't take away the fact that Autobots are characters. Ask yourself:

a) Does Autobots stand for any values?
b) Does Autobots show emotion?

If yes to the above, they are characters.

Answer: Optimus Prime says BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Answer: Bumblebee cried cry.gif
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
Yes. There were quite a fair few scenes.

And that doesn't take away the fact that Autobots are characters. Ask yourself:

a) Does Autobots stand for any values?
b) Does Autobots show emotion?

If yes to the above, they are characters.

Answer: Optimus Prime says BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Answer: Bumblebee cried  cry.gif
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and they both fought and won over 2-3 decepticons..

rmbr in the first movie, optimus cant even stand 1 on 1 against the mighty megatron (i guess the deep blue sea really hurt his circuits? even if that blackout and starscream got crushed by optimus alone fighting on 3? )

as for bumblebee, he cant really put a scratch on barricade in the first movie.. they were both of equal strenght... and now going solo he is able to defeat both ravage and rampage? (plus tearing apart their internal organs) wat the...


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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 28 2009, 11:06 PM)
That was a past tense, lol.
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 28 2009, 11:03 PM)
I AGree with u.

But i guess they cant make a movie where the majority of the time is showing the robots, guess its takes too much time and too much work and budget.
But SRSLY, reduce all the human dramas, im more interested in the robots than making them look like some gundams who can talk.
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Which brings me to the direction the movie could have gone, under the hands of a smarter director. We could still have had a human viewpoint character like Sam, only the Autobots and Decepticons would've been the bona fide stars of their own movie. Optimus Prime could've been a genuinely inspiring leader, Bumblebee could've been the weakest but bravest, and Starscream could've been an annoying git. None of this is impossible - it just wasn't even attempted.

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:02 PM)
lol he even made it sound convincing that Buster Witwicky is just a minor character and has no significant value in the old cartoon series,despite me proving him otherwise.
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laugh.gif You proved that the character was significant? You can't even get his name right. laugh.gif

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dont worry with time you will change your mind.
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Best Transformer movie.



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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
And that doesn't take away the fact that Autobots are characters. Ask yourself:

a) Does Autobots stand for any values?
b) Does Autobots show emotion?

If yes to the above, they are characters.

Answer: Optimus Prime says BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
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laugh.gif You can't even remember what "values" he stands for. And no, "stands for values" does not a character make.

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
Answer: Bumblebee cried  cry.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jun 28 2009, 11:13 PM)
and they both fought and won over 2-3 decepticons..

rmbr in the first movie, optimus cant even stand 1 on 1 against the mighty megatron (i guess the deep blue sea really hurt his circuits? even if that blackout and starscream got crushed by optimus alone fighting on 3? )

as for bumblebee, he cant really put a scratch on barricade in the first movie.. they were both of equal strenght... and now going solo he is able to defeat both ravage and rampage? (plus tearing apart their internal organs) wat the...
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Optimus is after all a prime which is not weak in the cybertronian language. He has gotten stronger in the past years,Ironhide modified all his weaponary. Read Transformers: The veiled threat. and dude its not Blackout its grindor,two different bots here man.

sigh,watch again the first movie,after fighting with Barricade, Barricade just pengsan like that,there were sparks coming out of Barricade. I dont get why people expect autobots to be loser-bots all the time,sigh.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:18 PM)
laugh.gif You can't even remember what "values" he stands for. And no, "stands for values" does not a character make.
But was it an emotional scene? No, it was played for laughs. That wasn't an emotion, that was a special effect.
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I remember. I'm just not going to type all the shit out. Autobots believe in justice and humanity.

WTF? What do you mean having 'values' isn't a trait of a character? It doesn't matter if it was played for laughs or not, it showed emotion. Tell me Chaplin or Keaton aren't characters next time you watch their films. And just because it's special effect doesn't make it less of an emotion.

Dragonheart? Sad dragon dying in that movie? That's special effects but also emotion.

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:19 PM)
Optimus is after all a prime which is not weak in the cybertronian language. He has gotten stronger in the past years,Ironhide modified all his weaponary. Read Transformers: The veiled threat. and dude its not Blackout its grindor,two different bots here man.

sigh,watch again the first movie,after fighting with Barricade, Barricade just pengsan like that,there were sparks coming out of Barricade. I dont get why people expect autobots to be loser-bots all the time,sigh.
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michael bay could have done some explanation on how they got stronger, perhaps? rather than relying on comics?
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What? An argument whether the robots were characters?

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WTF? What do you mean having 'values' isn't a trait of a character?
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What I meant was, a symbol is not a character. The Autobots do not have values, they...

...actually, they don't even symbolize them. They merely spout platitudes.

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 28 2009, 11:22 PM)
It doesn't matter if it was played for laughs or not, it showed emotion. Tell me Chaplin or Keaton aren't characters next time you watch their films. And just because it's special effect doesn't make it less of an emotion.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jun 28 2009, 11:30 PM)
What? An argument whether the robots were characters?
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jun 28 2009, 11:26 PM)
sorry didnt really noticed...

michael bay could have done some explanation on how they got stronger, perhaps? rather than relying on comics?
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:32 PM)
What I meant was, a symbol is not a character. The Autobots do not have values, they...

...actually, they don't even symbolize them. They merely spout platitudes.
I'm a fan of Pixar, so I have no beef about special effects used to show emotion. Bumblebee crying is a gag, not an emotion. He cares about Sam so much that he can't bear to be left behind? Where was he when the kid died?
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They have values. Believing in justice is a value. Having compassion is a trait.

And where don't get started with the plot holes laa.. that's unfair tongue.gif where was mom pulling sam back when he wanted to risk his life when she was weeping over college?

maka, characters or not? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jun 28 2009, 11:26 PM)
sorry didnt really noticed...

michael bay could have done some explanation on how they got stronger, perhaps? rather than relying on comics?
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theres a reason why its called a prequel novel? cmon its not only transformers that work this way,its 2 and half hours taakan the part where optimus gets an upgrade or how Simmons steal all the documents from sector 7 be shown too? in that sense the movie will be more than 4 hours d. Here's something to refresh your memory:

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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 28 2009, 11:35 PM)
They have values. Believing in justice is a value. Having compassion is a trait.

And where don't get started with the plot holes laa.. that's unfair tongue.gif where was mom pulling sam back when he wanted to risk his life when she was weeping over college?

maka, characters or not? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 28 2009, 11:35 PM)
maka, characters or not? tongue.gif
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dude, the transformation is almost complete! just say the words "this movie is a piece of shit" and you're done.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jun 28 2009, 11:39 PM)
Whaa? Don't get me in this.
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And they spout shit about justice and evil but they represent GOOD or EVIL - making them characters.

Okay, bored of this tongue.gif

and don't cop out la, maka tongue.gif

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I leave you with this link. He says it better than I could.  biggrin.gif
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hmm actually I dont even think the movie is about a boy. It's just about action and shit getting blown up for no good reason. And the transformers are simply the perpetrators.
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dude, the transformation is almost complete! just say the words "this movie is a piece of shit" and you're done.
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...well, for a while. laugh.gif


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But I had fun watching it!

...well, for a while.  laugh.gif
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Its obvious you have more fun bashing it. whistling.gif  biggrin.gif
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Its obvious you have more fun bashing it. whistling.gif  biggrin.gif
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But I had fun watching it!

...well, for a while.  laugh.gif
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I guess most of you forgot its a MICHAEL BAY movie. If you want to enjoy a Michael Bay movie, leave your brains out and just enjoy:-

1) Kick-ass action scenes
2) Kick-ass military hardware
3) Kick-ass slow-mo action scenes
and the most important of all
4) Kick-ass boobs

OK, seriously this movie is full of plot holes. Actually this year first few summer blockbuster movies plots are really full of holes. Star Trek, Terminator and now Transformers 2 plot are really really terrible. But as a popcorn blockbuster movie, they do work.

Hey, even the best blockbuster movies are full of holes and have horrible dialogues. Remember the original Star Wars trilogy. I am not even talking about the prequels.
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sweet jesus, this f***ing piece of shit isnt worth the internet space this thread is taking up.
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3/5 is a good score regardless of how you put it. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 28 2009, 11:54 PM)
I guess most of you forgot its a MICHAEL BAY movie. If you want to enjoy a Michael Bay movie, leave your brains out and just enjoy:-

1) Kick-ass action scenes
2) Kick-ass military hardware
3) Kick-ass slow-mo action scenes
and the most important of all
4) Kick-ass boobs

OK, seriously this movie is full of plot holes. Actually this year first few summer blockbuster movies plots are really full of holes. Star Trek, Terminator and now Transformers 2 plot are really really terrible. But as a popcorn blockbuster movie, they do work.

Hey, even the best blockbuster movies are full of holes and have horrible dialogues. Remember the original Star Wars trilogy. I am not even talking about the prequels.
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 28 2009, 09:54 AM)
I guess most of you forgot its a MICHAEL BAY movie. If you want to enjoy a Michael Bay movie, leave your brains out and just enjoy:-

1) Kick-ass action scenes
2) Kick-ass military hardware
3) Kick-ass slow-mo action scenes
and the most important of all
4) Kick-ass boobs

OK, seriously this movie is full of plot holes. Actually this year first few summer blockbuster movies plots are really full of holes. Star Trek, Terminator and now Transformers 2 plot are really really terrible. But as a popcorn blockbuster movie, they do work.

Hey, even the best blockbuster movies are full of holes and have horrible dialogues. Remember the original Star Wars trilogy. I am not even talking about the prequels.
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Don't bundle good popcorn movies with bad. Transformers 2 fails miserably as a popcorn movie. Just because its a popcorn movie doesnt mean its automatically good since u can 'leave ur brain at the door'. Star Trek was great popcorn, Terminator: Salvation was awful, and Transformers: ROTF is abysmal stuff enjoying only the company of Batman and Robin.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jun 28 2009, 11:54 PM)
Actually, my ratings scale goes to 4 stars max.
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I leave you with this link. He says it better than I could.  biggrin.gif
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The Transformers have no personalities because Bay doesn't give a shit about them. He just wants to blow shit up, and the giant robots are only a means to that end.
my thoughts exactly. word for word. nod.gif
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I gave a 2.5/5 and I don't completely hate it. For what it's worth, I still consider it an entertaining movie. Low expectations really help tongue.gif

I think Bay made a mess with TF2. There were so many things going on that doesn't even made sense. I read from my friend that the Pentagon is in Virginia and not in DC as filmed, and the whole geographical issue of Egypt, Jordan, etc. He obviously incorporated what he thought was more "fun" to the movie with the expense of the robot's characterization. I still can't get over the fact that they could speak in accents, hump, and joke? I think the robots just didn't had enough time to develop the "characters" but if you'd cared for Bumblebee and Prime, it's obviously because they had characters, even at the minimal.
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its just sad that this movie will make so much money that more will be made.

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they really should change the director...make micheal bay co-director specifically for explosions only...
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its just sad that this movie will make so much money that more will be made.
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If you watch the first one and compare it with the second, the first would win hands down in terms of story plot and the whole 2 hours worth of noise. Revenge Of The Fallen is way too noisy and messy plots, at least for me. I'm glad I own the first movie on DVD because that's way better than second one.
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But in 10 years time, they'll be seen exactly the same way Armageddon and Pearl Harbor are seen now.  biggrin.gif
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reading some of the comments here did make me laugh...lol

i know lots ppl are bashing it, but gve it a break.. its a movies about freaking ROBOTS! come on.. haha..

i had fun watching it though (few hours back)

the jokes? evantho some had been use b4 (or overdid it), but nah.. its alright.. i laughed at it and then move on to the next action sequence.

acting? again.. its a movies about robots for crying out loud! don la expect much for he 'acting' part.. we all know that we r not goin to watch a oscar nominated film. its a action flick on robots!!

story line? pure old good vs bad kinda plot.. jus like back in my kiddy days when i was watching the cartoons .. so y not? i knew there's not much story line or character build up.. but do we reli wana c that in this kinda thing action flick? not me.. (some would be disagree with me on this, but hey.. every 1 entitled to his/her opinion, ey? =) )?

like i said, i had fun watching it... n i ll give it a 4 out of 5.

the only think i dun like is that 2 'jar jar blinks' robot Twns. As i think Bay put them there for comedic purposes, i believe that most of the time, they need not to be there at all..

jus my 2 cents

now, bring on the dinobots on the third installment oredy!
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But in 10 years time, they'll be seen exactly the same way Armageddon and Pearl Harbor are seen now.  biggrin.gif
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haha , come to think of it . The show really confused me . LOL

In some parts of the comedy , I didnt really laugh , although the whole cinema laughed , maybe the jokes doesnt suit me.( or is it pure Lame?)

I taught that the decepticons were wayyyyy stronger . To my surprise , dunno how Optimus and Bumble Bee were so strong.

Bout those mistakes I just read , lol . Really , the scenes was so fast and confusing that I refused to think and just really try to enjoy the effects and the coolness of the show. But then , the climax was just bad , nothing seems to be right , too many errors every here and there.

Worse of all , Optimus so easily took down The Fallen --> that was the last battle.. omg..........
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But in 10 years time, they'll be seen exactly the same way Armageddon and Pearl Harbor are seen now.  biggrin.gif
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Soundwave Should Have said....."Ravage Eject...Operation... Infiltrate And Retrive"

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QUOTE(pcm123 @ Jun 29 2009, 01:47 AM)
haha , come to think of it . The show really confused me . LOL

In some parts of the comedy , I didnt really laugh , although the whole cinema laughed , maybe the jokes doesnt suit me.( or is it pure Lame?)

I taught that the decepticons were wayyyyy stronger . To my surprise , dunno how Optimus and Bumble Bee were so strong.

Bout those mistakes I just read , lol . Really , the scenes was so fast and confusing that I refused to think and just really try to enjoy the effects and the coolness of the show. But then , the climax was just bad , nothing seems to be right , too many errors every here and there.

Worse of all , Optimus so easily took down The Fallen --> that was the last battle.. omg..........
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the only think i dun like is that 2 'jar jar blinks' robot Twns. As i think Bay put them there for comedic purposes, i believe that most of the time, they need not to be there at all..

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some may not find the joke hilarious, but if u understand americans and nigger jokes u will laugh like hell man...
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Watched it twice, I still find the movie freakin' awesome, despite what other people comments thumbup.gif
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haha , come to think of it . The show really confused me . LOL

In some parts of the comedy , I didnt really laugh , although the whole cinema laughed , maybe the jokes doesnt suit me.( or is it pure Lame?)

I taught that the decepticons were wayyyyy stronger . To my surprise , dunno how Optimus and Bumble Bee were so strong.

Bout those mistakes I just read , lol . Really , the scenes was so fast and confusing that I refused to think and just really try to enjoy the effects and the coolness of the show. But then , the climax was just bad , nothing seems to be right , too many errors every here and there.

Worse of all , Optimus so easily took down The Fallen --> that was the last battle.. omg..........
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this is a classic example of,autobot are loser-bots and decepticons are god like. I'm guessing you never really followed the series,novels or the comic books. Look up Grimlock,Defensor,Ironhide and Bumblebee in those literature you'll see how strong they are. Even in the first movie Bumblebee took down barricade effortlessly. And the Fallen cmon,he is so freaking old and did mention he can only be defeated by a prime so theres no surprise there plus,the prime plus jetfire combo really make him stronger what,sigh if you failed to see all this and factor all this togather you'll forever think decepticons are stronger. heres a scenario if autobots are forever loser bots how could the war in cybertron last for ages? wouldnt the decepticon win the war and theres no more story after that? The whole point of this franchise is depicting 2 races of robots of equal strength fighting on a war for eons.
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Rank Title Weekend Gross
1 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) $112M $201M shocking.gif
2 The Proposal (2009) $18.5M $69M
3 The Hangover (2009) $17.2M $183M
4 Up (2009) $13M $250M
5 My Sister's Keeper (2009) $12M $12M
6 Year One (2009) $5.8M $32.3M
7 The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 (2009) $5.4M $53.4M
8 Star Trek (2009) $3.61M $246M
9 Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian $3.5M $163M
10 Away We Go (2009) $1.68M $4.06M

source: www.imdb.com

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I just watched it yesterday nite... still full house.

i can even forgive the sfx the transformers transform but not the fact that they cheated putting the eiffel tower at place de la concorde. you cant even see eiffel from that water fountain in real life
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QUOTE(pcm123 @ Jun 29 2009, 01:47 AM)
Worse of all , Optimus so easily took down The Fallen --> that was the last battle.. omg..........
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That's not just optimus... it's Gundam Prime Armor Pack leh.. of course can whack the Fallen, Megatron and Starscream ler.

Just that the feeling I got on the whole climax scene was like... huh? Dah habis?

How can ANYTHING last against this fella/

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I am so dspointed with soundwave voice w/o the vocoder....It does not have The originality of Soundwave ......
Soundwave Should Have said....."Ravage Eject...Operation... Infiltrate And Retrive"
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Just wish there weere more robots and less of those pesky humans that you don't care about.
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[quote=sniper on the roof,Jun 29 2009, 10:10 AM]
That's not just optimus... it's Gundam Prime Armor Pack leh.. of course can whack the Fallen, Megatron and Starscream ler.

Not gundam pack lar bro... Its "Sonic Convoy" version from Galaxy Force...



Jetfire should not die in the the movie cry.gif

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 09:13 AM)
this is a classic example of,autobot are loser-bots and decepticons are god like. I'm guessing you never really followed the series,novels or the comic books. Look up Grimlock,Defensor,Ironhide and Bumblebee in those literature you'll see how strong they are. Even in the first movie Bumblebee took down barricade effortlessly. And the Fallen cmon,he is so freaking old and did mention he can only be defeated by a prime so theres no surprise there plus,the prime plus jetfire combo really make him stronger what,sigh if you failed to see all this and factor all this togather you'll forever think decepticons are stronger. heres a scenario if autobots are forever loser bots how could the war in cybertron last for ages? wouldnt the decepticon win the war and theres no more story after that? The whole point of this franchise is depicting 2 races of robots of equal strength fighting on a war for eons.
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He told u he was confused. Lol. Maybe he dont understand the movie much thus no joy for him. Too bad. Its like im watching a horror flick where everyone was screaming except me because i dont really understand the horror etc.

Its Bay fault. He made the auto bots looks cool while deceptions looks bad ass and transform from huge and ugly vehicles except the R8. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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zomg. i give 11/10 me like .. bit robots. evil and pervy small robots that call the chick hot and stupid biggrin.gif biggrin.gif and likes to hump people's feet biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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wonder why those electrical appliances in Sam's house when become alive are all decepticons? why not the autobots?

another questions, izzit The Fallen need to use the Energon to create more decepticons in order to conquer the universe?
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I'm don't think that has anything to do with Bay concerning ugly vehicles and robots, more likely it is Hasbro.
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just wondering... how many of the bashers are going to rewatch in cinema? or already have?

yeah.. i watched the movie along what noob13 mentioned regarding the usage of the transformers or execution or portrayal of them.
anyways, these 2 movies have made gazillian buckaroos, i hope we can have more robots less human in the third movie. the 2 movies profits shouldve paid for more cgi in the 3rd one.
let the robots take centre stage.
unicron attack, humans cant do jack shit so the autobots and decepticons take the limelight.
and grimlock.. haha.. if grimlock show up i think i might just buy my first toy from the movie for old nostalgia sake.
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QUOTE(dericncs @ Jun 29 2009, 10:49 AM)
wonder why those electrical appliances in Sam's house when become alive are all decepticons? why not the autobots?

another questions, izzit The Fallen need to use the Energon to create more decepticons in order to conquer the universe?
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Bro, there is no plot in ROTF. So don't bother asking biggrin.gif

If you keep asking questions about the plot holes or inconsistencies, you'll just mess up your own brain tongue.gif Just accept that TF2 isn't up to everyone's expectations and have very low expectations for TF3. Or pray Michael Bay isn't in charge of TF3.

Thank you Michael Bay, you have destroyed the Transformers franchise rclxms.gif Even the kiddies Transformers:Animated followed the original TF spirit, but you decided instead to put Sam Witwicky and big explosions above everything else.
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autobots is powered by energon...at least the cartoon one does...n matrix is somewhat a living prophecies like Oracle in The Matrix...understand/connect-able only by the leader -- optimus prime...

but the movie seems to imply that energon=matrix=all spark??? yeah...bad writing...too many plot holes... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 29 2009, 11:03 AM)
Bro, there is no plot in ROTF. So don't bother asking biggrin.gif

If you keep asking questions about the plot holes or inconsistencies, you'll just mess up your own brain tongue.gif Just accept that TF2 isn't up to everyone's expectations and have very low expectations for TF3. Or pray Michael Bay isn't in charge of TF3.

Thank you Michael Bay, you have destroyed the Transformers franchise  rclxms.gif Even the kiddies Transformers:Animated followed the original TF spirit, but you decided instead to put Sam Witwicky and big explosions above everything else.
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God sake this is not cartoon or animation. They film this movie for worldwide not only for the cartoon fans. So dont except the same storyline as cartoon. Take it as a new dimension or story. If still cant except it and miss the old times transformer, go back to ur store and look for the tapes.

Normal ppl will like the movie. Cartoon fans will have higher expectations because they expect a freaking million dollar investment to a 2 hour movie to give the same storyline like months of 45mins cartoon. I dont even pay high expectations on the likes of dinobots or unicorn etc. I dont think this is gonna happen. The movie has always been related to humans which is why i don't forsee dinobots or unicorn but instead it might be a Reventon decepticons in the future.

MB sux but u still watch TF2 dont u? No matter ur comments is bad or good, u ard put ur money into them. $ is all they want. I bet u're gonna spent it again on TF3 just to see whether it meet ur expectations do u? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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let me guess what is transformer 3 story plot:

well since they got allspark which fall to earth million years ago, primes and matrix fall to earth at billion years ago, i guess they got some others ancient transformer which also fall down to earth xxx years ago.

at that time what can they transform? obviously is dinosaur!

lady and gentleman, pls sit back and watch our famous transformer dinobots!
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QUOTE(dericncs @ Jun 29 2009, 11:49 AM)
wonder why those electrical appliances in Sam's house when become alive are all decepticons? why not the autobots?


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No no... in TF1... a robot transformed from a handphone in sector 7 gone berserk , but its not a decepticons OR autobot. It's merely a newborn robot which behave and attack wildly (survival instincts, perhaps?) . Same goes for the mountain dew vending machine bot.

Same goes for the electrical appliance-bots. It'll attack anyone and anything in its sight,regardless of their faction/robots or humans.


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autobots is powered by energon...at least the cartoon one does...n matrix is somewhat a living prophecies like Oracle in The Matrix...understand/connect-able only by the leader -- optimus prime...

but the movie seems to imply that energon=matrix=all spark??? yeah...bad writing...too many plot holes... doh.gif
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Nope. they're NOT equal to each other. Just like humans, robots also need MORE than one element to survive, not just energon (which provides energy, perhaps?).


energon = energy (fried chicken,rice,vege)
matrix/allspark = physical "form" of soul? Maybe human soul is invisible... but robot "soul" can be seen just like those CGI effects in TF2 ?




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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 11:41 AM)
No no... in TF1... a robot transformed from a handphone in sector 7 gone berserk , but its not a decepticons OR autobot. It's merely a newborn robot which behave and attack wildly (survival instincts, perhaps?) . Same goes for the mountain dew vending machine bot.

Same goes for the electrical appliance-bots. It'll attack anyone and anything in its sight,regardless of their faction/robots or humans.
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Xbox 360 also.... im looking forward to see transformed PS3 but Bay let me down this time... vmad.gif

PS3 (autobots) vs Xbox 360 (decepticons)

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QUOTE(chulk @ Jun 29 2009, 12:23 PM)
let me guess what is transformer 3 story plot:

well since they got allspark which fall to earth million years ago, primes and matrix fall to earth at billion years ago, i guess they got some others ancient transformer which also fall down to earth xxx years ago.

at that time what can they transform? obviously is dinosaur!

lady and gentleman, pls sit back and watch our famous transformer dinobots!
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Yes. I hope the "past" can be expanded to fit in the dinobots.

Maybe in 17000bc or much earlier.... some protoforms landed on earth,scanned a few dinos, and roam around bullying the other dinos... When comet hits d earth and killed the rest of the original organic dinos, they also go down with it.. but of course with their non-organic shell/body.. they doesn't "disintegrate" so easily, simply might be buried somewhere underground, deactivated.


And TF3 might start the story of the "uncovering" of a shocking fossils of the dinobots? woohooo..

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The dinobones in the muzium perhaps? Since the've shown the muzium like the ones in Night in the muzium, they might have dinos but its very unlikely unless there is fossils because they do revealed that transformers ard exist million years ago. However if they do, they wont appear long. They would just get whack as usual by Optimus.

So, dont expect too much ler. It will only gives u dissapointment
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I thought Sam Will Become Rodimus Prime when He Find The Matrix...... rclxms.gif

The Twin is A Real Pain......Make The Autobots Unstylish.... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 11:21 AM)
God sake this is not cartoon or animation. They film this movie for worldwide not only for the cartoon fans. So dont except the same storyline as cartoon. Take it as a new dimension or story. If still cant except it and miss the old times transformer, go back to ur store and look for the tapes.

Normal ppl will like the movie. Cartoon fans will have higher expectations because they expect a freaking million dollar investment to a 2 hour movie to give the same storyline like months of 45mins cartoon. I dont even pay high expectations on the likes of dinobots or unicorn etc. I dont think this is gonna happen. The movie has always been related to humans which is why i don't forsee dinobots or unicorn but instead it might be a Reventon decepticons in the future.

MB sux but u still watch TF2 dont u? No matter ur comments is bad or good, u ard put ur money into them. $ is all they want. I bet u're gonna spent it again on TF3 just to see whether it meet ur expectations do u?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Of course I still pay to watch it biggrin.gif

The problem is not the storyline. I don't expect to have Unicron storyline or Return of Optimus story line. Just something that makes sense and flows nicely. ROTF doesn't. Even later animations like Robots in Disguise, Armada, Animated all have crappy stories, but they keep the spirit of the original to some extent.

The first movie was ok. If you notice it still deviated from the cartoon, but it was still good enough in terms of plot/action/flow to make it great. But the second movie fails in that they try to amp up the action but sacrifice any semblance of story.

Overall I did enjoy ROTF, but it left me feeling it could've been much more than that. I had no fault with the action CGs, they are very nice. But the whole thing just feels disjointed. You can clearly see the poor directing when a transformer is there in one scene and in the next, he disappears. There is no flow.

But hey, just as you said I'll still pay for TF3 no matter what. If only to see how much more they mess up the franchise biggrin.gif
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The only thing that I've watched in the recent years that kept the spirit of the original is Macross Frontier... now THAT's a tribute.

Having said that... being a transformerbiatch... still going to watch TF3 regardless.
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hmmm ... lol..... got a question for this movie...
when the sun harvesters destroyed by optimus, then the matrix also gone...?? if think logically yes.... but now seems like the allpark and matrix destroy then no more chance to bring back the autobots and decepticon back to life again..?? there is two allspark fragments in this TF2 ... one being use to revive megatron and the other one use to activate jetfire..... so now totally gone after done that..?? where is it ?? so weird shakehead.gif doh.gif and not like the first one coz optimus picked up the left over fragment from megatron chest and this TF2 like total lost the spark and matrix....... lol laugh.gif
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 01:16 PM)
hmmm ... lol..... got a question for this movie...
when the sun harvesters destroyed by optimus, then the matrix also gone...?? if think logically yes.... but now seems like the allpark and matrix destroy then no more chance to bring back the autobots and decepticon back to life again..?? there is two allspark fragments in this TF2 ... one being use to revive megatron and the other one use to activate jetfire..... so now totally gone after done that..?? where is it ?? so weird  shakehead.gif  doh.gif and not like the first one coz optimus picked up the left over fragment from megatron chest and this TF2 like total lost the spark and matrix....... lol  laugh.gif
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If they can find an all spark fragment in sam's hoodie, I'm sure they're going to find another fragment of matrix/all spark whatever elsewhere.

But come to think of it, Optimus didn't come out totally unscathe after battling the Fallen,Megatron and Starscream. One of the Jetfire engines was missing when he ejected the Jetfire parts off.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 29 2009, 02:19 PM)
If they can find an all spark fragment in sam's hoodie, I'm sure they're going to find another fragment of matrix/all spark whatever elsewhere.

But come to think of it, Optimus didn't come out totally unscathe after battling the Fallen,Megatron and Starscream. One of the Jetfire engines was missing when he ejected the Jetfire parts off.
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icic yeah loh...lol ..... but i hope my comments is rite and im wondering what r the going to do in TF3... laugh.gif hmm.gif

anyway ...whatever it is .... i hope they dont really make the same mistake as TF2 in the coming TF3... but about the TF1, u can see mistake as well if u watch again and again..lol

and they should put more budget for this TF2, not only 200 million ....probably 250 million or 300 million or more sth like that because this probably would make the movie more awesome rather than those cracking joke coz the jokes parts its like over do it/overloaded/to much....lol laugh.gif

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the movie's good for me, but there's alot of plot holes. other than that, it was all good =D

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LaBoof confirms next movie will have more robots and more characterisation for these robots, brace yourself for the.... EMOTICONS!!!
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TF3 would most likely have Grimlock and Unicron inside based on scriptwriter hints.

But no Michael Bay please. I'd take James Cameron over that fart who mixes explosions with toilet jokes anytime.

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I'm don't think that has anything to do with Bay concerning ugly vehicles and robots, more likely it is Hasbro.
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I don't think Hasbro had much say in this movie... and actually, I think they should have. Maybe then there'd be no Wheelie or Pretender robo-chick, who were not only lame but won't make good toys.


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No they don't have much say and I didn't meant that too! I'm saying the designs of the robots are theirs, certainly not the filming crew.
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 29 2009, 12:57 PM)
Of course I still pay to watch it biggrin.gif

The problem is not the storyline. I don't expect to have Unicron storyline or Return of Optimus story line. Just something that makes sense and flows nicely. ROTF doesn't. Even later animations like Robots in Disguise, Armada, Animated all have crappy stories, but they keep the spirit of the original to some extent.

The first movie was ok. If you notice it still deviated from the cartoon, but it was still good enough in terms of plot/action/flow to make it great. But the second movie fails in that they try to amp up the action but sacrifice any semblance of story.

Overall I did enjoy ROTF, but it left me feeling it could've been much more than that. I had no fault with the action CGs, they are very nice. But the whole thing just feels disjointed. You can clearly see the poor directing when a transformer is there in one scene and in the next, he disappears. There is no flow.

But hey, just as you said I'll still pay for TF3 no matter what. If only to see how much more they mess up the franchise biggrin.gif
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you're damn rite my bro! MB doenst know shit about cinematography, plot / flow. One minute you have one scene building up momentum for a climax with background music and all, then the next second, the scene switches to stupid romance/whatever puny humans are doing in the movie... damnit MB u need to go back to film school ffs.


We need more ROBOT screentime in the movie, not puny humans!!!


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Yeah.. Soundwave spoke too much and he looked like he's humping the satellite.
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I LOL at that! laugh.gif laugh.gif

yea i thought he would let go of the satellite and come down to earth.

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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jun 29 2009, 03:04 PM)
you're damn rite my bro! MB doenst know shit about cinematography, plot / flow. One minute you have one scene building up momentum for a climax with background music and all, then the next second, the scene switches to stupid romance/whatever puny humans are doing in the movie... damnit MB u need to go back to film school ffs.
We need more ROBOT screentime in the movie, not puny humans!!!
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The flow of the entire movie is completely screwed up.Worse than the first movie.

Some of the scenes are there because they are there.

Probably the biggest disappointment for me in the year.Provided Starcraft 2 and Modern Warfare 2 dont fail me like TF2.
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jun 29 2009, 04:04 PM)

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I LOL at that!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

yea i thought he would let go of the satellite and come down to earth.
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Soundwave is the communication experts in decepticons.. also needs to make physical contact aka raba raba with the satellite to grab/hack information of out it. Why can't he simply use his "skills" to intercept whatever signals coming into/out of the satellite without touching that satellite. Even human hacker can "hack" wirelessly. fail!




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For God Sake.....Kill The twin Autobot In The 3rd chapter......
Autobot With A Bunny Teeth.....wtf!
AND It MANAGE TO TAKE OUT DEVASTATOR!!!???!?!?!
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 03:29 PM)
Soundwave is the communication experts in decepticons.. also needs to make physical contact aka raba raba with the satellite to grab/hack information of out it.  Why can't he simply use his "skills" to intercept whatever signals coming into/out of the satellite without touching that satellite. Even human hacker can "hack" wirelessly. fail!
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coz its MB's soundwave! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 03:29 PM)
Soundwave is the communication experts in decepticons.. also needs to make physical contact aka raba raba with the satellite to grab/hack information of out it.  Why can't he simply use his "skills" to intercept whatever signals coming into/out of the satellite without touching that satellite. Even human hacker can "hack" wirelessly. fail!
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Soundwave Voice ALso Doesn't Sound Right vmad.gif
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Jun 26 2009, 10:32 AM)
ahahahahahaha

isnt megatron supposed to be a gun ? lol doh.gif
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I think he say it in reverse ba...megatron trnansform into a gun for soundwave (i tihnk) to shoot
But after megatron died n revive...he is a canon....

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For me, i am enjoying the movie cuz of the actions on and off. Robots fighting robots is all i care for this movie. Dont wanna relate it to the original Transformers series since movies always come out diff from ori.

Plotholes or not, the storyline is too much until they cant cramp all in final cut of 2hours. In the end they choose to put in more action scenes instead of the plots. Try reading the novels for those that keep requesting plots. Your the answers can be found there. Go to your nearest bookstore.

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Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday (2007)
Transformers (2007)
Transformers: The Veiled Threat (2009)
Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen (2009)

Things i dun keen on is why there is so many soldier fights ? I wan robot fights not human fights screentime!!

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Like some of u said, TF3 will have no humans, purely robots. It will be called... Transformers: The Animated Movie.
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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 29 2009, 03:43 PM)
For me, i am enjoying the movie cuz of the actions on and off. Robots fighting robots is all i care for this movie. Dont wanna relate it to the original Transformers series since movies always come out diff from ori.

Plotholes or not, the storyline is too much until they cant cramp all in final cut of 2hours. In the end they choose to put in more action scenes instead of the plots. Try reading the novels for those that keep requesting plots. Your the answers can be found there. Go to your nearest bookstore.

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Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday (2007)
Transformers (2007)
Transformers: The Veiled Threat (2009)
Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen (2009)

Things i dun keen on is why there is so many soldier fights ? I wan robot fights not human fights screentime!![COLOR=red]
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SPOOOTTT on!!!

hell somebody posted the 2nd page of this review back few posts, i'll link the first page here, coz its so freakin true in what the reviewer says
CLICK HERE FOR THE REVIEW
dont click if you havent watched, contains certain spoilers tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 29 2009, 03:49 PM)
Like some of u said, TF3 will have no humans, purely robots. It will be called... Transformers: The Animated Movie.
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if thats true, i would pay 50 bucks to watch it, but make sure its not MB directing it.

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Make The Autobots Unstylish.... vmad.gif
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the part where they surround sam's house.

ok,maybe not unstylish,but sure makes them look like complete doofuses sleep.gif
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Wah!!!!!!!!!!... everyone like "kacang lupakan kulit"... when the first TF everyone goes..Wow! Syok! Best lar!!!!!!!
Now the second one everybody complain...to make sure Bay not to direct the next sequel.... so which director are more suitable to direct the next one lar???? Uwe Boll????? Wakakaka...
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Jun 29 2009, 05:20 PM)
Wah!!!!!!!!!!... everyone like "kacang lupakan kulit"... when the first TF everyone goes..Wow! Syok! Best lar!!!!!!!
Now the second one everybody complain...to make sure Bay not to direct the next sequel.... so which director are more suitable to direct the next one lar???? Uwe Boll????? Wakakaka...
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the storyline sucks that's why yawn.gif
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QUOTE(vincentbec313 @ Jun 29 2009, 03:34 PM)
Soundwave Voice ALso Doesn't Sound Right  vmad.gif
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i hated the first movie too D:

and yes, in some moments, watching both movies.. i actually thought to myself, oh shi- am i watching an uwe boll movie? coz of the bloody non-flow of the movies.

and i feel detached from the robots, coz of their non-emotion.
when optimus was "dumped" to the ground by the heli, i was like whoa wtf, show some respect to the dude man. but no, the other autobots just drove in, not saying a word, if i was one of them i would have blown the heli to bits (or just scare the shit out of the pilot)

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the storyline sucks that's why yawn.gif
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jun 29 2009, 04:25 PM)
i hated the first movie too D:

and yes, in some moments, watching both movies..  i actually thought to myself, oh shi- am i watching an uwe boll movie? coz of the bloody non-flow of the movies.

and i  feel detached from the robots, coz of their non-emotion.
when optimus was "dumped" to the ground by the heli, i was like whoa wtf, show some respect to the dude man. but no, the other autobots just drove in, not saying a word, if i was one of them i would have blown the heli to bits (or just scare the shit out of the pilot)
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As that president's guy said, its a pile of junk lol ..
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 10:47 AM)
He told u he was confused. Lol. Maybe he dont understand the movie much thus no joy for him. Too bad. Its like im watching a horror flick where everyone was screaming except me because i dont really understand the horror etc.

Its Bay fault. He made the auto bots looks cool while deceptions looks bad ass and transform from huge and ugly vehicles except the R8.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vincentbec313 @ Jun 29 2009, 03:29 PM)
For God Sake.....Kill The twin Autobot In The 3rd chapter......
Autobot With A Bunny Teeth.....wtf!
AND It MANAGE TO TAKE OUT DEVASTATOR!!!???!?!?!
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This. Pretty sure they'll be wiped out in TF3 since nobody likes Jar Jar Binks types of characters anyway.

QUOTE(20thCentury @ Jun 29 2009, 04:20 PM)
Wah!!!!!!!!!!... everyone like "kacang lupakan kulit"... when the first TF everyone goes..Wow! Syok! Best lar!!!!!!!
Now the second one everybody complain...to make sure Bay not to direct the next sequel.... so which director are more suitable to direct the next one lar???? Uwe Boll????? Wakakaka...
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Remember when Michael bay was announced as director for Transformers and all the fan complaints at it? All their worries on what Bay would do to the film didn't happen then, it happened now. I doubt Orci and Kurtzman are responsible for the mess considering they did Star Trek as well, probably Bay's direction in this film. Here's an example.
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QUOTE(dericncs @ Jun 29 2009, 10:49 AM)
wonder why those electrical appliances in Sam's house when become alive are all decepticons? why not the autobots?

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We repeatedly answered this many times before, soo im assuming you didnt watch the first movie or did not pay attention to it, every technology by products be it cars,electronic gadgets,photostat machines,computers etc etc were made mimicking NBE-1 aka Megatron so his consciousness or his schematics were transfered unknowingly to all these machines.

QUOTE(dericncs @ Jun 29 2009, 10:49 AM)
another questions, izzit The Fallen need to use the Energon to create more decepticons in order to conquer the universe?
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jun 29 2009, 04:25 PM)
i hated the first movie too D:

and yes, in some moments, watching both movies..  i actually thought to myself, oh shi- am i watching an uwe boll movie? coz of the bloody non-flow of the movies.

and i  feel detached from the robots, coz of their non-emotion.
when optimus was "dumped" to the ground by the heli, i was like whoa wtf, show some respect to the dude man. but no, the other autobots just drove in, not saying a word, if i was one of them i would have blown the heli to bits (or just scare the shit out of the pilot)
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yes sooo true, when i saw that part i have the same feeling. WHAT THE SHIT. because he lost soo now treat him like a crap just throw down like that
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QUOTE(vincentbec313 @ Jun 29 2009, 03:29 PM)
For God Sake.....Kill The twin Autobot In The 3rd chapter......
Autobot With A Bunny Teeth.....wtf!
AND It MANAGE TO TAKE OUT DEVASTATOR!!!???!?!?!
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No no no... Devastator was taken out by single shot of a puny human rail gun.

QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jun 29 2009, 04:25 PM)
when optimus was "dumped" to the ground by the heli, i was like whoa wtf, show some respect to the dude man. but no, the other autobots just drove in, not saying a word, if i was one of them i would have blown the heli to bits (or just scare the shit out of the pilot)
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Yeah... WTF's wrong with the chopper pilot. Where got ppl drop their airlift from 20ft wan doh.gif

Also.. the playup to Optimus dying in the cartoon is much better than this stab from the back thing. Just not as emo.


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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 03:29 PM)
Soundwave is the communication experts in decepticons.. also needs to make physical contact aka raba raba with the satellite to grab/hack information of out it.  Why can't he simply use his "skills" to intercept whatever signals coming into/out of the satellite without touching that satellite. Even human hacker can "hack" wirelessly. fail!
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ermm you do know that,the satellite he hacked is not a normal satellite with no security encryption. Unless you physically hack it theres no way you'd crack the security,if it just intercepts the signal it'll be unable to decipher it as he is not familiar with the way the signal is synthesized, probably you'd be better off happily watching eagle eye.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 03:25 PM)
The flow of the entire movie is completely screwed up.Worse than the first movie.

Some of the scenes are there because they are there.

Probably the biggest disappointment for me in the year.Provided Starcraft 2 and Modern Warfare 2 dont fail me like TF2.
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It was a disappointment for sure. I think I laughed at the inconsistencies more than I laughed at the jokes biggrin.gif Especially when they discovered Jetfire, one scene they were running scared because he's a Decepticon, next scene they come forward to Jetfire. Why the hell did you run away in the first place!!!

Personally I don't really care who the director is, Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, whoever. Just keep the story straight and proper. Doesn't matter if it's Transformers, terminator, GI Joe or whatever, nothing kills a movie more than an inconsistent plot and bad story flow.
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ermm you do know that,the satellite he hacked is not a normal satellite with no security encryption. Unless you physically hack it theres no way you'd crack the security,if it just intercepts the signal it'll be unable to decipher it as he is not familiar with the way the signal is synthesized, probably you'd be better off happily watching eagle eye.
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He's supposed to be a super mega ultra advance decepticon comm expert.


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He's supposed to be a super mega ultra advance decepticon comm expert.
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yeah he still is, even in cybertron he is super advanced, but again landing firmly on reality if you were to invade an alien planet,no matter how backwater their technology is you'd have to physically study it in order to mimic or to influence it to do your bidding. Remember even in the first movie,both frenzy and Blackout hacked the US military servers manually to get to witwicky and also initiate the virus that crippled all communications. This movie isnt about magic, its about everyday conventions.

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:53 PM)
We repeatedly answered this many times before, soo im assuming you didnt watch the first movie or did not pay attention to it, every technology by products be it cars,electronic gadgets,photostat machines,computers etc etc were made mimicking NBE-1 aka Megatron so his consciousness or his schematics were transfered unknowingly to all these machines.
Yeap,exactly without energon they cannot power the new underlings.
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lol....everybody keeps on complaining ..

nimrod323 - btw i got to head this when optimus first meet with sam ....and optimus told sam the story ....that all..
but still why all decepticon ..??
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:07 PM)
yeah he still is, even in cybertron he is super advanced, but again landing firmly on reality if you were to invade an alien planet,no matter how backwater their technology is you'd have to physically study it in order to mimic or to influence it to do your bidding. Remember even in the first movie,both frenzy and Blackout hacked the US military servers manually to get to witwicky and also initiate the virus that crippled all communications. This movie isnt about magic, its about everyday conventions.
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Decepticons been on earth for MANY,MANY,MANY years, hiding in human midst. Don't you think its not enough for them to "track" and report back the progress of human development in communications to finally break their codes ? Maybe hours after Alexandar Graham Bell made his "first" successful phone call, soundwave or other decepticon would've easily analyse this new "human technology" and exploit it. Don't forget, Transformers are a very advanced civilization even at 17000bc.

In the first movie, Blackout and Frenzy doesn't specialise in what soundwave's MAIN and major function.

From the look of it.. soundwave is potrayed to be much "weaker" in this movie.

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Wipe away the childhood transformer memories and take this as a new one. Maybe the movie will feel better.

Normal ppl dont really know that Soundwave is an expert. They just know its a decepticons that is able to hack the satellite.

Regarding the plot issue, its pretty hard for the to put all the scenes into a 2 hour movie. Maybe they will have an extended cut in BD?

Darkchaser: Hey bro. I guess u think too much le. You ard have bias towards this movie before watching it. I tot they stop running away from Jetfire only when Simmons said something like they shud be safe because Jetfire doesn't seems to atk them.

And seriously, this movie aint for the Transformers fans but instead strike a balance where Transformer fans can enjoy the CGI and the world would understand end enjoy the movie as well. If the movie was purely for the fans, they might reduce the investment and make it looks like a comic like u guys wished. No megan fox, no army, no jokes etc. Better off watching cartoons. tongue.gif

Edit: Dont think too logic la. Transformer itself arent logic too rite.

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(Quick Review)

+ very good sense of humors!
+ charater development develops nicely
+ some cool CGI, the most complicated CGI i ever seen
+ bigger locations, bigger robots
+ praised for summer film, really good to watch with families
+ 200mil budget film uses nicely!


- girls are to much, even the robots are girl wtf?
- 150m non-stop action (some of you like this but i, don't)
- transformers talks to much, bumblebee isn't a star on TF2 like it in TF1.
- ending was cool but could have been longer

watch'd it last friday. my friend pursue me to see this film, without them, i won't be seeing this film. plus, ima transformers hater, so any comments i made to this film, please calm down icon_rolleyes.gif
at the first part of the film, i think it was superb, very great for an introduction. nuff said, i like it. and those humors all around the film? wtf, it's superb! everyone in the cinema laughs so hard even for me can't insist that whistling.gif
but when it comes to the middle of the film, i felt a lil' bit down. i see to much of actions which made me had a headache. 150m of running time with non-stop action. i just can't stand this stuff. but hell, it's summer film anyway.
and the last part of the film which is, the ending. i didn't say it wasn't good but it should have been longer. i felt like i left the cinema to quick even the running time was waay to long doh.gif

Review's Score= 8/10

uh, sungguh pening la watching this film. it feels like the film was complicated enough even it wasn't complicated. one time watch is enough, not so addictive thanks to the non-stop action. otherwise i would watch it for the 2nd time. owh well, if someone wants to argue with me, go for it because i can't stand too much action scenes. really, i prefer a simple film, but addictive films like TDK. even for Terminator Salvation, it was rather simple but i watch it like 4 times and it still didn't let me down even for now.
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:22 PM)
Wipe away the childhood transformer memories and take this as a new one. Maybe the movie will feel better.

Normal ppl dont really know that Soundwave is an expert. They just know its a decepticons that is able to hack the satellite.

Regarding the plot issue, its pretty hard for the to put all the scenes into a 2 hour movie. Maybe they will have an extended cut in BD?

Darkchaser: Hey bro. I guess u think too much le. You ard have bias towards this movie before watching it. I tot they stop running away from Jetfire only when Simmons said something like they shud be safe because Jetfire doesn't seems to atk them.

And seriously, this movie aint for the Transformers fans but instead strike a balance where Transformer fans can enjoy the CGI and the world would understand end enjoy the movie as well. If the movie was purely for the fans, they might reduce the investment and make it looks like a comic like u guys wished. No megan fox, no army, no jokes etc. Better off watching cartoons. tongue.gif

Edit: Dont think too logic la. Transformer itself arent logic too rite.
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:22 PM)
Wipe away the childhood transformer memories and take this as a new one. Maybe the movie will feel better.

Normal ppl dont really know that Soundwave is an expert. They just know its a decepticons that is able to hack the satellite.

Regarding the plot issue, its pretty hard for the to put all the scenes into a 2 hour movie. Maybe they will have an extended cut in BD?

Darkchaser: Hey bro. I guess u think too much le. You ard have bias towards this movie before watching it. I tot they stop running away from Jetfire only when Simmons said something like they shud be safe because Jetfire doesn't seems to atk them.

And seriously, this movie aint for the Transformers fans but instead strike a balance where Transformer fans can enjoy the CGI and the world would understand end enjoy the movie as well. If the movie was purely for the fans, they might reduce the investment and make it looks like a comic like u guys wished. No megan fox, no army, no jokes etc. Better off watching cartoons. tongue.gif
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Well, undeniably there are many stuff failed to be tied up nicely.

We see some constructicons on board the tanker, ready to do salvaging work. Wow.. finally, they waited for 2 years for a human tanker to set course passing through the abyss where megatron is dumped (I though such place is restricted and guarded heavily by the navy? how come a tanker can easily pass through it?). I think soundwave is helping in "diverting" the route of the tanker to help the constructicons. But prior to the tanker departure from the port, don't the crew double check its cargo ? If I'm the ship crew or dock staff, I will be shocked to find out there are "additional" construction vehicles on the tanker, and demand to know its origin before giving a green light for the tanker to depart.

Well, considering the nature of decepticons to be violent. The most logical explanation would be, those cons torch the port/dock and killed everyone.. then transform into vehicles and went onboard the tanker. then soundwave helps "reprogram" its route to go salvage megatron.



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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 05:29 PM)
Well, undeniably there are many stuff failed to be tied up nicely.

We see some constructicons on board the tanker, ready to do salvaging work. Wow.. finally, they waited for 2 years for a human tanker to set course passing through the abyss where megatron is dumped (I though such  place is restricted and guarded heavily by the navy? how come a tanker can easily pass through it?). I think soundwave is helping in "diverting" the route of the tanker to help the constructicons. But prior to the tanker departure from the port, don't the crew double check its cargo ? If I'm the ship crew or dock staff, I will be shocked to find out there are "additional" construction vehicles on the tanker, and demand to know its origin before giving a green light for the tanker to depart.

Well, considering the nature of decepticons to be violent. The most logical explanation would be, those cons torch the port/dock and killed everyone.. then transform into vehicles and went onboard the tanker. then soundwave helps "reprogram" its route to go salvage megatron.
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Well maybe the construction vehicles is a cargo itself? Tot about this possibilities? And maybe the tanker is far way from the navy perimeter and the decepticons dropped and dive towards megatron. There is also a possibilities on this rite? Decepts are violent, but they do mentioned that they wanted to remain unnoticed until Megatron finally decided to let the world knew rite? They are way too many possibilities because humans have different thinking. Its just happens that we do not think the same as Bay and his script writers. We can only sit and try to enjoy the rm10 spent. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 05:20 PM)
Decepticons been on earth for MANY,MANY,MANY years, hiding in human midst. Don't you think its not enough for them to "track" and report back the progress of human development in communications to finally break their codes ?  Maybe hours after Alexandar Graham Bell made his "first" successful phone call, soundwave or other decepticon would've easily analyse this new "human technology" and exploit it. Don't forget, Transformers are a very advanced civilization even at 17000bc.

In the first movie, Blackout and Frenzy doesn't specialise  in what soundwave's MAIN and major function.

From the look of it.. soundwave is potrayed to be much "weaker" in this movie.
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hmm wait, if thats the case they would have known where the ALLSPARK and Megatron was hidden in the first place? they only found out later on only in the first movie after a physical hack by frenzy and Blackout,that being said its not possible for the decepticons to have been able to break or understand the codes eventho they have been staying here for the longest time, cause all of the US technology is made in secret,unless they infiltrated with a pretender in human form and kept tabs on all the technology in other governments around the world. There was no mention of any decepticon being on the planet apart from wheelie saying those who were on earth were the legends of cybertron,even Jetfire was an autobot and was sent to earth to track the fallen. We dont know for sure if the legends were indeed all decepticons,if that were the case they would have easily tracked down the ALLSPARK location at hoover's dam.

Even if you said that blackout and frenzy dont have specialties like shockwave in the first movie that would mean that Shockwave only recently appeared along with the fallen,so he is still new that means he has to position himself with the military satellite in order to better infiltrate their defense communication.

For this movie,soundwave has been projected as he was in all other previous work, Megatron's highest in command,his communications officer.

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:22 PM)
Wipe away the childhood transformer memories and take this as a new one. Maybe the movie will feel better.

Normal ppl dont really know that Soundwave is an expert. They just know its a decepticons that is able to hack the satellite.

Regarding the plot issue, its pretty hard for the to put all the scenes into a 2 hour movie. Maybe they will have an extended cut in BD?
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I pretty much going in without any knowledge about transformers and it's still a bad movie.

The plot isnt consistent at all.
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what about two directors.... they discuss... whatever
Uwe Bol and Michel bay

nimrod323 - why still allspark power still transform all machines in decepticons??


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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 06:50 PM)
I dont even remember much from the childhood transformer.

I pretty much going in without any knowledge about transformers and it's still a bad movie.

The plot isnt consistent at all.
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i agree with u ... me too man ...... i didnt really know much about transformers comic but i only know when comes to fight or battle optimus memang tahan lasak ..lol ... agree??

this is coz i think i only watch 5% or 10% of the transformers cartoons/comic .... i think that was very old generation of transformers. ..GEN 1 kua ..

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what about two directors.... they discuss... whatever
Uwe Bol and Michel bay

nimrod323 - why still allspark power still transform all machines in decepticons??
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They didnt transform all machines into decepticons le. They become wild robots that doest side Autobots nor Decepticons.

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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:51 PM)
what about two directors.... they discuss... whatever
Uwe Bol and Michel bay

nimrod323 - why still allspark power still transform all machines in decepticons??
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He said that from TF1 movie... its understood many of the world's technology were reverse engineered from NBE1-1 aka Megatron. THis means most electrical and electronics appliances big or small.. will have some NBE-1 "signature" or characteristic:- which is ... violent. So when allspark "activates" them into bots... the very first characteristic they show would be... megatronic aka .... kill kill kill!


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They didnt transform all machines into decepticons le. They become wild robots that doest side Autobots nor Decepticons.
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No.. that was my opinion. others may have more logical opinions. I think megatron's manisfestation of most electronic or electrical tools we use today wont be that "deep".

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:53 PM)
They didnt transform all machines into decepticons le. They become wild robots that doest side both Autobots nor Decepticons.
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i know not all whatever... just like to put all there... coz the msg is from optimus when he first meet sam on earth .... laugh.gif laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 05:54 PM)
He said that from TF1 movie... its understood many of the world's technology were reverse engineered from NBE1-1 aka Megatron. THis means most electrical and electronics appliances big or small.. will have some NBE-1 "signature" or characteristic:- which is ... violent. So when allspark "activates" them into bots... the very first characteristic they show would be... megatronic aka .... kill kill kill!


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No.. that was my opinion. others may have more logical opinions.
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Ya. I have the same opinion as urs. So the wild robots i mean will just kill all on sight like u mentioned due to the NBE-1 source/parts/dna.
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:51 PM)
i agree with u ... me too man ...... i didnt really know much about transformers comic but i only know when comes to fight or battle optimus memang tahan lasak ..lol ... agree??

this is coz i think i only watch 5% or 10% of the transformers cartoons/comic .... i think that was very old generation of transformers. ..GEN 1 kua ..
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:55 PM)
i know not all whatever... just like to put all there... coz the msg is from optimus when he first meet sam on earth ....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think when megatron or prime got hold of the all spark, they will able to use the power to rebuild their civilization. Since the robots from all spark are wild, Prime or Megatron will have to train them to side either one. If it falls into Megatron, it will definitely be a decepticon.

Its only my POV dou.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Jun 29 2009, 06:58 PM)
I did watch G1 last time,but i barely remember them.
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but G1 I never watch all of them ..just few episode only...i think showing TV1 or TV2 when i was in kindergarten kua~~ laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 29 2009, 07:00 PM)
I think when megatron or prime got hold of the all spark, they will able to use the power to rebuild their civilization. Since the robots from all spark are wild, Prime or Megatron will have to train them to side either one. If it falls into Megatron, it will definitely be a decepticon.

Its only my POV dou.
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Well talking about being a 'bot or 'con. The movie potrays decepticons face as insect-like (especially their mouth), and autobots, much less so. I wonder if a con defect and becomes the autobot, will he will becomes "more handsome" over time? Wonder how many years it take.

Maybe as soon as the autobot insignia is official wired/welded onto the ex-con (pun intended).... a certain "restructuring" happens to the overall face of that bot , a few sparks here and there... finally he looks better now .

"Welcome to the autobots!"

"Thank you optimus, can you borrow me a mirror? "






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and why with all the buzz about Megan.... she is not only the hot girl with pxxsy in this planet... LOL
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So when allspark "activates" them into bots... the very first characteristic they show would be... megatronic aka .... kill kill kill!
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:55 PM)
i know not all whatever... just like to put all there... coz the msg is from optimus when he first meet sam on earth ....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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no i dont remember Optimus saying that to sam its actually agent simmons who told em about the Megatron imprint being in all of earth's technology. Allspark can be used to empower both sides or even the third race,predacons. Its a cube of knowledge, a source of raw power its short circuited Megatron and we have seen that in small amounts it can re activate sparks in dead or motionless bots.

I also want to state that the reason why Optimus cannot be saved with the allspark shard is because his spark is different as he is from the primus lineage,and his powers are"yeap you guessed it, its leadership" so tahts why only the matrix of leadership can restore his spark.
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planning to watch 1 more time this friday, but looks like the cinema almost full.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Jun 29 2009, 04:20 PM)
Wah!!!!!!!!!!... everyone like "kacang lupakan kulit"... when the first TF everyone goes..Wow! Syok! Best lar!!!!!!!
Now the second one everybody complain...to make sure Bay not to direct the next sequel.... so which director are more suitable to direct the next one lar???? Uwe Boll????? Wakakaka...
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personally,i wouldnt replace him with anyone else.
i just wish he made the movies more about the transformers than the witwickys

ofcourse the budget would sky rocket,as there would be much more CGI in place of humans,but since it's the subject matter anyway,the budget's expected to explode

QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jun 29 2009, 04:25 PM)
when optimus was "dumped" to the ground by the heli, i was like whoa wtf, show some respect to the dude man. but no, the other autobots just drove in, not saying a word, if i was one of them i would have blown the heli to bits (or just scare the shit out of the pilot)
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Jun 29 2009, 04:39 PM)
This. Pretty sure they'll be wiped out in TF3 since nobody likes Jar Jar Binks types of characters anyway.
Remember when Michael bay was announced as director for Transformers and all the fan complaints at it?
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everyone complained?
i thought everyone was happy about it unsure.gif

until the character designs (megatron in particular) came out,and in came the rabid fanboys tongue.gif

(speaking of megatron,didnt know(at the time) that Bay forced a slight redesign to Mega's face after the furious fanboy response laugh.gif )

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 04:53 PM)
We repeatedly answered this many times before, soo im assuming you didnt watch the first movie or did not pay attention to it, every technology by products be it cars,electronic gadgets,photostat machines,computers etc etc were made mimicking NBE-1 aka Megatron so his consciousness or his schematics were transfered unknowingly to all these machines.
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when was that mentioned in the first movie?
or was it mentioned in the comic adaptation/novel?
or are you giving your opinion on the matter?

makes sense,though.

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 29 2009, 04:56 PM)
Also.. the playup to Optimus dying in the cartoon is much better than this stab from the back thing. Just not as emo.
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heh..agreed.
didnt feel a thing when he got stabbed.

more like mellow.gif "that's it?...ok" kind of feeling sweat.gif

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 05:29 PM)
We see some constructicons on board the tanker, ready to do salvaging work. Wow.. finally, they waited for 2 years for a human tanker to set course passing through the abyss where megatron is dumped (I though such  place is restricted and guarded heavily by the navy? how come a tanker can easily pass through it?). I think soundwave is helping in "diverting" the route of the tanker to help the constructicons. But prior to the tanker departure from the port, don't the crew double check its cargo ? If I'm the ship crew or dock staff, I will be shocked to find out there are "additional" construction vehicles on the tanker, and demand to know its origin before giving a green light for the tanker to depart.
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some things we just cant explain:
every transformer,be it autobot or decepticon will have a logo on their body.

and the logo isnt a small tattoo,it's a huge insignia.

anyone can see the logo,yet for some reason no one seems to know where the decepticons are.

lol..some things you just have to let go tongue.gif

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:40 PM)
hmm wait, if thats the case they would have known where the ALLSPARK and Megatron was hidden in the first place? they only found out later on only in the first movie after a physical hack by frenzy and Blackout,that being said its not possible for the decepticons to have been able to break or understand the codes eventho they have been staying here for the longest time, cause all of the US technology is made in secret,unless they infiltrated with a pretender in human form and kept tabs on all the technology in other governments around the world.
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they implanted a mutating virus when they hacked the US military network.
if they could do that,then they already knew the weaknesses of the system.
the only way you can implant a virus into a system is if you know the holes and weaknesses of said system.
there's no way you can implement a virus of any kind if you cant find loopholes in the system you target.

whatever the case,this whole "the transformers have already been here before" doesnt work out right.
it pretty much just destroys the first movie's story. (which in all honesty,wasnt that solid to begin with)

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:40 PM)
There was no mention of any decepticon being on the planet apart from wheelie saying those who were on earth were the legends of cybertron,even Jetfire was an autobot and was sent to earth to track the fallen.
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eh?
he wasnt sent there BY the fallen?
i was under the impression that he switched while he was on earth(or something like that)

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:40 PM)
We dont know for sure if the legends were indeed all decepticons,if that were the case they would have easily tracked down the ALLSPARK location at hoover's dam.
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but the fact that there were transformers on earth already destroys the need for the first movie.lol
(by that i mean they didnt need sam at all,since the first few transformers who were already on earth should already have found out the location of the cube)

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:40 PM)
Even if you said that blackout and frenzy dont have specialties like shockwave in the first movie that would mean that Shockwave only recently appeared along with the fallen,so he is still new that means he has to position himself with the military satellite in order to better infiltrate their defense communication.

For this movie,soundwave has been projected as he was in all other previous work, Megatron's highest in command,his communications officer.
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with no special abilities,blackout:
has to physically hack the network

with networking being his specialty,soundwave:
has to physically hack the network

does that sound familiar to anyone? hmm.gif tongue.gif
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oh shytz , the more I read , the more dissappointed I am .

I havent read the comic b4 , thus dun have whatever prior knowledge about this movie .

The more I read , it gets more confusing..... hahaha

btw guys , U all can spot some details huh , I was half figuring and half watching during the entire movie until I cant focus . LOL .
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
with no special abilities,blackout:
has to physically hack the network

with networking being his specialty,soundwave:
has to physically hack the network

does that sound familiar to anyone? hmm.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
when was that mentioned in the first movie?
or was it mentioned in the comic adaptation/novel?
or are you giving your opinion on the matter?

makes sense,though.
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This is mentioned when agent seymour was explaining to the secdef,epps,lennox,mikaela,and also sam along with others in front of Megatron icy self.

QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
some things we just cant explain:
every transformer,be it autobot or decepticon will have a logo on their body.

and the logo isnt a small tattoo,it's a huge insignia.

anyone can see the logo,yet for some reason no one seems to know where the decepticons are.

lol..some things you just have to let go tongue.gif
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In the novel, The Veiled Threat,its been said that they can also mask their insignia,that what they did when the autobots went to puerto rico for a mission.

QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
they implanted a mutating virus when they hacked the US military network.
if they could do that,then they already knew the weaknesses of the system.
the only way you can implant a virus into a system is if you know the holes and weaknesses of said system.
there's no way you can implement a virus of any kind if you cant find loopholes in the system you target.

whatever the case,this whole "the transformers have already been here before" doesnt work out right.
it pretty much just destroys the first movie's story. (which in all honesty,wasnt that solid to begin with)
eh?
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What i meant by the comment quoted by you is that, if the decepticons were here since lets say the 1800 for example,lets say all modern tech and secret military tech started from that period and the decepticons were keeping track of all of it then it means theres no need for the decepticon to hack the military in the first movie.

IMHO,the transformers being here makes sense if their presence here is meant to curb decepticons looking for the harvester machine. Like guardians or maybe they came to visit just to keep an eye on this civilization just like the movie The Earth Stood Still,where the aliens stayed and kept contact with their planet.

QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
he wasnt sent there BY the fallen?
i was under the impression that he switched while he was on earth(or something like that)
but the fact that there were transformers on earth already destroys the need for the first movie.lol
(by that i mean they didnt need sam at all,since the first few transformers who were already on earth should already have found out the location of the cube)
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He did say,he was on the mission to stop the fallen if im not mistaken, watched it just now again. I'm beginning to think my above theory is more plausible or maybe sector 7 info wasnt on the security mainframe for quite some time until the first movie,they did keep Megatron and the cube in a safe place for 75 years even the Pentagon except for the president and a few others knew of the sector's existence,sort of like MIB.

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
personally,i wouldnt replace him with anyone else.
i just wish he made the movies more about the transformers than the witwickys

ofcourse the budget would sky rocket,as there would be much more CGI in place of humans,but since it's the subject matter anyway,the budget's expected to explode
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yep... budget would sky rocket. thats the limitation he had before..
but now both making mega bucks.. i think every person that watched tf1 n 2 deserves to see a movie with the robots taking center stage.. even if it costs $400 million. heck the movie will still probly be profitable but less profit margin. if its damn good, it might make more than the previous even.
they should just go all out now theyve got the extra cash
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QUOTE(sshahar9 @ Jun 29 2009, 07:37 PM)
yep... budget would sky rocket. thats the limitation he had before..
but now both making mega bucks.. i think every person that watched tf1 n 2 deserves to see a movie with the robots taking center stage.. even if it costs $400 million. heck the movie will still probly be profitable but less profit margin. if its damn good, it might make more than the previous even.
they should just go all out now theyve got the extra cash
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hmm if Paramount allows it that is haha,the no 1 rule of business is to minimize cost and maximize profits = huge profit margin. Again movies are a gamble,even the biggest budgeted movies fall, we cannot simply assume the third installment with a bigger budget would garner the profit that the studios aspire to achieve, they wouldnt wanna just resort for less profit margin,but hey i'd still watch it regardless.
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so much of that Bay's promising. now look what he just done.
never trust these words= "i promised you this fanboys", or might else the film would be suck as hell. look what most director have done to the film like AVP, Transformers, Terminator and a whole lot film because of that word.

watch it once only. pening kepala tengok banyak aksi transformers nih.
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it seems everyone like T2:ROTF including me. thumbup.gif but when i checked imdb.com, they only give it average/poor rating hmm.gif mat saleh really have different taste huh.
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it seems everyone like T2:ROTF including me.  thumbup.gif but when i checked imdb.com, they only give it average/poor rating  hmm.gif mat saleh really have different taste huh.
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Watched the movie this morning. Honestly, I didn't really like this recent Transformers movie be it the 1st and this one. I always keep this thread on my tabs so I can read all the bashing for this movie and I like it. But after watched ROTF, I felt no regret spending my 11 bucks on this movie. Of course its a mediocre movie but I think its worth it. Yeah, of course there's a lot of plot holes and unnecessary crude jokes. I even read the prequel comics and still don't understand s**t. But, pull those aside its quite worth your time. Perhaps, my level expectations is so low, I walk out of the theater feeling satisfied. Nuff said smile.gif

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 06:56 PM)
whatever the case,this whole "the transformers have already been here before" doesnt work out right.
it pretty much just destroys the first movie's story. (which in all honesty,wasnt that solid to begin with)
eh?
he wasnt sent there BY the fallen?
i was under the impression that he switched while he was on earth(or something like that)
but the fact that there were transformers on earth already destroys the need for the first movie.lol
(by that i mean they didnt need sam at all,since the first few transformers who were already on earth should already have found out the location of the cube)
with no special abilities,blackout:
has to physically hack the network
if u read the prequels, megatron send the seekers out to earth to look for the matrix, then only prime decided to send away the allspark and only megs chase after the allspark, so the seekers have no idea that the allspark was at earth, so how can they look for the allspark?
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Jun 29 2009, 05:41 PM)
RM 10.00 for 2 1/2 hours action movie... sudah worth it lor...
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QUOTE(zoglandboy @ Jun 29 2009, 10:21 PM)
if u read the prequels, megatron send the seekers out to earth to look for the matrix, then only prime decided to send away the allspark and only megs chase after the allspark, so the seekers have no idea that the allspark was at earth, so how can they look for the allspark?
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seeing as how the cube is much much much bigger than bumblebee, and the cube's radiation can supposedly attract the cybertronians(which was the reason why the dam was built over it), wouldnt the cybertronians on earth be aware that a cube of such power is there?

it would've taken YEARS for the dam to be built

it would've been negligible had the cube been the size of sam's hands (as it became when bee transformed it) but at that stage of the story,the cube was ENORMOUS.
it would've been extremely unlikely that NO cybertronian on earth would have picked up on it's energy

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So it's about the length, huh? Don't watch Pixar movies!
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In the novel, The Veiled Threat,its been said that they can also mask their insignia,that what they did when the autobots went to puerto rico for a mission.
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they never mask their insignias in the movie..hell,they display it prominently.
even jetfire's was there as he was unlocked (from stasis)
but yet no one notices it laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 11:01 PM)
seeing as how the cube is much much much bigger than bumblebee, and the cube's radiation can supposedly attract the cybertronians(which was the reason why the dam was built over it), wouldnt the cybertronians on earth be aware that a cube of such power is there?

it would've taken YEARS for the dam to be built

it would've been negligible had the cube been the size of sam's hands (as it became when bee transformed it) but at that stage of the story,the cube was [b]ENORMOUS
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it would've been extremely unlikely that NO cybertronian on earth would have picked up on it's energy
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they never mask their insignias in the movie..hell,they display it prominently.
even jetfire's was there as he was unlocked (from stasis)
but yet no one notices it laugh.gif
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hmm, well one reason could be the fact that the cube landed in the Arctic pole,the radiation from the aurora is enough and the polarity of our earth magnets to shield the cube's power. i'm assuming all the cybertronians have went elsewhere to look for the matrix,neglected this perhaps?

Again their ability to mask the insignia when needed is present in some literature no? haha even if its prominent on the construction vehicles on the cargo ship,the workers would have probably not noticed it. Jetfire's insignia was at the bottom,it was carefully hidden until mikaela saw it. notice how there are no strange tattoos on the Blackbird body as opposed to Starscream im beginning to think only the higher ranked TFs have those.
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Starscream did that to himself in the prequel, to remind himself to be cybertronian....
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 11:21 PM)
hmm, well one reason could be the fact that the cube landed in the Arctic pole,the radiation from the aurora is enough and the polarity of our earth magnets to shield the cube's power. i'm assuming all the cybertronians have went elsewhere to look for the matrix,neglected this perhaps?
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but they moved it stateside.
still very unlikely that something that huge could get past the cybertonian's radar.

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 11:21 PM)
notice how there are no strange tattoos on the Blackbird body as opposed to Starscream im beginning to think only the higher ranked TFs have those.
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he was made a higher rank after TF1?lol
cos i dont remember him having any tattoo in TF1.
hell,i dont think even Megatron has them blink.gif

or is it not as obvious since he doesnt have flat parts


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QUOTE(zoglandboy @ Jun 29 2009, 11:34 PM)
Starscream did that to himself in the prequel, to remind himself to be cybertronian....
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lol aight

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 29 2009, 11:37 PM)
but they moved it stateside.
still very unlikely that something that huge could get past the cybertonian's radar.

he was made a higher rank after TF1?lol
cos i dont remember him having any tattoo in TF1.
hell,i dont think even Megatron has them blink.gif

or is it not as obvious since he doesnt have flat parts


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lol aight
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hey we have worked on plenty of radiation based nuclear products, probably they kept it in a case that shields the radiation from going out and grabbing the attention of the cybertronians.

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post Jun 29 2009, 11:51 PM

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cybertronian signs were carved by starscream himself after the last movie, other than starscream, prime has a sign on his helmet, which is the sigh of prime, and arcees have the signs on their bikes, i might have missed out a few others....
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sideways died too fast.was hoping to see more of him.

but sideswipe is enough tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 11:47 PM)
hey we have worked on plenty of radiation based nuclear products, probably they kept it in a case that shields the radiation from going out and grabbing the attention of the cybertronians.
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they needed a huge (was it 4?) football field thick dam to shield the radiation.
i doubt they had anything that could shield the radiation enough to be able to transport it safely (had any cybertronians been on earth at the time,anyway)

if even in the movie's timeline the cybertronians can already pwn the humans like crazy,i cant imagine during the time the dam was built.lol..it would've been peanuts if they had invaded then

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 30 2009, 12:46 AM)
they needed a huge (was it 4?) football field thick dam to shield the radiation.
i doubt they had anything that could shield the radiation enough to be able to transport it safely (had any cybertronians been on earth at the time,anyway)

if even in the movie's timeline the cybertronians can already pwn the humans like crazy,i cant imagine during the time the dam was built.lol..it would've been peanuts if they had invaded then
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well we didnt need 4 football fields thick walls to protect anti matter at CERN so im guessing its a long term solution to put the cube in the dam rather than keeping it in a radiation proof box that is so ginormous and seeks attention.

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Five ways Michael Bay could have made a better Transformers 2
http://www.examiner.com/x-15321-Jacksonvil...-Transformers-2

1. Don't treat the existence of an alien robot race so flippantly.
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2. Explore the positive effects the Transformers are having on our society from behind the scenes.
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3. Don't ignore the Youtube factor.
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4. Give the robots character development.
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5. Make humanity smarter.
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...I have force myself to stop thinking about T2 as a "movie" too much. Its more of a... distraction. After all, its a movie with giant robots. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 30 2009, 01:14 AM)
Been posted?

Five ways Michael Bay could have made a better Transformers 2
http://www.examiner.com/x-15321-Jacksonvil...-Transformers-2

1. Don't treat the existence of an alien robot race so flippantly.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


2. Explore the positive effects the Transformers are having on our society from behind the scenes.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


3. Don't ignore the Youtube factor.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


4. Give the robots character development.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


5. Make humanity smarter.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


...I have force myself to stop thinking about T2 as a "movie" too much. Its more of a... distraction. After all, its a movie with giant robots. sleep.gif
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all those points have been answered in the Transformers Animated series. Go watch that instead. Don't let the cartoonish looks fool you. Seriously the screenplay is waaay better than the movie. Each episode featured one of the autobots back story. Kinda like LOST brows.gif.
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Suddenly i'm thinking of watching the old transformers series... Never tought theres a lot of transformers series than the one shown in local tv network when i googled it
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QUOTE(jingga @ Jun 30 2009, 03:20 AM)
Suddenly i'm thinking of watching the old transformers series... Never tought theres a lot of transformers series than the one shown in local tv network when i googled it
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"Critics "forget what the goal of the movie was. The goal of the movie is to entertain and have fun," said Rob Moore, vice chairman of Paramount, which is distributing "Transformers" for DreamWorks. "What the audience tells us is, `We couldn't be more entertained and having more fun.' They kind of roll their eyes at the critics and say, `You have no idea what you're talking about.'"

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If the movie are so bad as the critics have wrote, it wouldn't scored 200 million mark. You may say the sequel rides on the name of the franchise but why so many people ended up watching it few times ? Screw your both nuts for trying to be too big! laugh.gif
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The BO performance has no correlation with a movie's quality.

Plus you can certainly see the number of haters has grown compared to the first movie.

Also, stop shoving Tranformers factoids down our throats and say "stop complaining if you didnt understand the movie". Regardless of whether I understand the mythology correctly, the movie is bad. The little "facts" about the Transformers are trivial, the problems of the movie lie elsewhere... or like everywhere else.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 30 2009, 01:46 AM)
they needed a huge (was it 4?) football field thick dam to shield the radiation.

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How thick the dam was, its no use when they have a tunnel from the surface leading to NBE-1 that ngam ngam slightly wider than his wingspan , conviniently allowing him to transform into jet mode and fly out using it after he "wakes up" without scratching his wingtips. its like the tunnel was "tailor" made for megatron to escape quickly.
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TGV F*CK YOU!!!

You gave us a shorter version of the Transformers2....

My friend went to Cathay Cineplex in CTSQ JB, then he go watch again in TGV Jusco JB....they said as few scenes were cut in TGV...especially the underwater scene.

Can someone confirm the underwater scene
Cathay version: 4 Robots went down...after they found Megatron the small one scan him first, then proceed to take parts for one of the robots to repair megatron....then only the small robot use the all sparks on Megatron.

TGV version...the one I saw (my friends also said the same)...after they found Megatron the small robot proceed to use the all sparks.

If its true, I'm never gonna watch anything in TGV again!!

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QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ Jun 30 2009, 08:50 AM)

If the movie are so bad as the critics have wrote, it wouldn't scored 200 million mark. You may say the sequel rides on the name of the franchise but why so many people ended up watching it few times ? Screw your both nuts for trying to be too big! laugh.gif
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ya...the dismemberment happen after the small robot revives megatron using the allspark...understanable if it gets cut tho...kinda disturbing...

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jun 30 2009, 09:19 AM)
TGV F*CK YOU!!!

You gave us a shorter version of the Transformers2....

My friend went to Cathay Cineplex in CTSQ JB, then he go watch again in TGV Jusco JB....they said as few scenes were cut in TGV...especially the underwater scene.

Can  someone confirm the underwater scene
Cathay version: 4 Robots went down...after they found Megatron the small one scan him first, then proceed to take parts for one of the robots to repair megatron....then only the small robot use the all sparks on Megatron.

TGV version...the one I saw (my friends also said the same)...after they found Megatron the small robot proceed to use the all sparks.

If its true, I'm never gonna watch anything in TGV again!!
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laugh.gif

anyone noticed that when the five robots went under the sea, the sonar detected 5 bogeys. but after Megatron came back alive, there's 6 bogeys? (remember the robot that was dismembered? laugh.gif )

5 -1 + 1 = 6. oh yeah! rclxms.gif
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RTCOTZRZ

link to the prequel comic biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jun 30 2009, 09:19 AM)
TGV F*CK YOU!!!

You gave us a shorter version of the Transformers2....

My friend went to Cathay Cineplex in CTSQ JB, then he go watch again in TGV Jusco JB....they said as few scenes were cut in TGV...especially the underwater scene.

Can  someone confirm the underwater scene
Cathay version: 4 Robots went down...after they found Megatron the small one scan him first, then proceed to take parts for one of the robots to repair megatron....then only the small robot use the all sparks on Megatron.

TGV version...the one I saw (my friends also said the same)...after they found Megatron the small robot proceed to use the all sparks.

If its true, I'm never gonna watch anything in TGV again!!
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I went to TGV Cheras Selatan, i got the Cathay version as mentioned.
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jun 30 2009, 09:34 AM)
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anyone noticed that when the five robots went under the sea, the sonar detected 5 bogeys. but after Megatron came back alive, there's 6 bogeys? (remember the robot that was dismembered?  laugh.gif )

5 -1 + 1 = 6. oh yeah!  rclxms.gif
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Too true. Another example of the director trying to create some kind of suspenseful scene and disregarding simple common sense. It wouldn't be much of a scene if the sub-operator went "6 bogeys went into the water. OMG the same number is coming up!!" tongue.gif

Michael Bay, do you want my 6-year old cousin to teach you math?? biggrin.gif

And let's not even get to how short Megatron's journey was from Earth to Mars. Or how the hell his thrusters were powerful enough to escape Earth's gravitational pull.

Oh wait, according to some people, we are not supposed to "think". Just "enjoy" the film as "entertainment" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 30 2009, 11:09 AM)

And let's not even get to how short Megatron's journey was from Earth to Mars. Or how the hell his thrusters were powerful enough to escape Earth's gravitational pull.

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Transformers are highly sophisticated machinery, and we're talking about the LEADER, whose MAIN alternate mode is an ALIEN-JET. We don't based his thrusters on the "less capable" human-technology thruster. Its like asking why all alients UFO in movies able to escape earth's gravitation pull. They just can, cause they're alien with (assumingly) highly advanced technology than us.

There are other stuff worthy of nickpick though smile.gif

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FLAC ver. for the album released flex.gif

For a movie that have a sucky storyline and all,it sure have some good tracks there icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 30 2009, 10:18 AM)
Transformers are highly sophisticated machinery, and we're talking about the LEADER, whose MAIN alternate mode is an ALIEN-JET. We don't based his thrusters on the "less capable" human-technology thruster.  Its like asking why all alients UFO in movies able to escape earth's gravitation pull. They just can, cause they're alien with (assumingly) highly advanced technology than us.

There are other stuff worthy of nickpick though smile.gif
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Sure, that sounds plausible. But in this case, even the original cartoon made more sense. Transformers were only able to move to another planet either by 1) Space bridge, or 2) Transformers that can transform into vehicles that can do space travel, like Skylynx and Astrotrain. Even Megatron had to ride Astrotrain, he alone couldn't do it.

Oh wait, this is Transformers. Stop thinking, stop thinking.....
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 30 2009, 11:24 AM)
Sure, that sounds plausible. But in this case, even the original cartoon made more sense. Transformers were only able to move to another planet either by 1) Space bridge, or 2) Transformers that can transform into vehicles that can do space travel, like Skylynx and Astrotrain. Even Megatron had to ride Astrotrain, he alone couldn't do it.

Oh wait, this is Transformers. Stop thinking, stop thinking.....
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Back then megatron WAS a gun. In this movie, megatron IS an ALIEN-JET. If an alien-jet FROM a highly advanced civilisation (compare The Primes ability to build Sun harvester on earth vs prehistoric humans 17000BC), JUST RESURRECTED by allspark (read:Fresh/full of energy) unable to perform interplanetary travel, then it would be more laughable.

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Hmm, I watched the first movie again yesterday and noticed:-

There are more robots fighting than ROTF. More of Ironhide, Ratchet and the nasty Decepticons. The only time these Autobots were firing something was from behind the humans in some village in Jordan? Why don't Irohhide, Ratchet get out and take on these Decepticons? Ironhide didn't fight at all in this one! Why hide behind humans? The battle in the woods was over in just minutes. Why did some here says it is very impressive? Why did Bay took out all the cool stuff from the first movie? Overall there seems to be less robots fighting in ROTF?

Come to think of it, reading someone here posting about TGV's shorter version, I remember a few years back watching the Matrix 2 in Ipoh and they actually cut off the entire highway chase scene. I was pretty gutted. Maybe I got the shit version here too,
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 30 2009, 10:24 AM)
Sure, that sounds plausible. But in this case, even the original cartoon made more sense. Transformers were only able to move to another planet either by 1) Space bridge, or 2) Transformers that can transform into vehicles that can do space travel, like Skylynx and Astrotrain. Even Megatron had to ride Astrotrain, he alone couldn't do it.

Oh wait, this is Transformers. Stop thinking, stop thinking.....
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Remember Starscream in the ending of first movie ? So the theory in this alternate universe of movie transformers is that some of them are able to travel to space without the need of shuttles. They come as a meteor drop too which in ori is impossible. Never relate them to the ori Transformers as the storyline is already all different. You will get yourself even more dissapointed when associating this movie with the original versions.
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QUOTE(The Hardest Thing In The World @ Jun 30 2009, 10:29 AM)
Hmm, I watched the first movie again yesterday and noticed:-

There are more robots fighting than ROTF. More of Ironhide, Ratchet and the nasty Decepticons. The only time these Autobots were firing something was from behind the humans in some village in Jordan? Why don't Irohhide, Ratchet get out and take on these Decepticons? Ironhide didn't fight at all in this one! Why hide behind humans? The battle in the woods was over in just minutes. Why did some here says it is very impressive? Why did Bay took out all the cool stuff from the first movie? Overall there seems to be less robots fighting in ROTF?

Come to think of it, reading someone here posting about TGV's shorter version, I remember a few years back watching the Matrix 2 in Ipoh and they actually cut off the entire highway chase scene. I was pretty gutted. Maybe I got the shit version here too,
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Because iron hide and co is smart? I dont think u wanan gung ho when there are a bunch of decepticons marching towards u. Melee battle will only make things worse if u talk about logic. Tanks cant fire if Autobots vs Decepts. So accept is as Humans + Autobots vs Decepts. They are around 13 of them. Remember? Sometimes being coward will let u stay alive - Starscream.

The action is good enough for a 2 hour + movie. If its able to last up to 3 hours + like titanic, we might able to see more details from the movie.

TGV case, awwww.. never go to TGV anymore unless GSC sold out man. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:40 AM)
The action is good enough for a 2 hour + movie. If its able to last up to 3 hours + like titanic, we might able to see more details from the movie.
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Even titanic have good storyline '_'

Well anyway it doesn't matter long it can last as long the plots are well made anything can be explained on proper way.
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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:44 AM)
Even titanic have good storyline '_'

Well anyway it doesn't matter long it can last as long the plots are well made anything can be explained on proper way.
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Titanic is 3 hours + wor. If TF2 is given another 1 hour i guess more details can be display and a better plot. TF has too many expectations from TF fans and they get disappointed because based on their logic the movie shouldn't be like that. It shud be a cartoon type storyline but swapped boxes chars with CGI.

Well they are still many "stupid ppl in large quantities (as stated in TF2 vs TS thread)" that loves this movie in which making sure u have TF3 in the future whereby your're STILL going to watch it and feel dissapointed again: tongue.gif tongue.gif

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Non TF Fanboi reporting in.

I had no expectations, other than the movie would be loud, have lots of exploshuns, and have sweeping camera angles of US military might.

For 2 and a half hours all my senses were pummelled by the sheer impossibility of it all.

Did I enjoy it? Hell yeah. for that period of time I was a boy again, not a 30something cynical a-hole. I was transported back to the exact same freakin mindset I had when I was 7 and watched those autobots for the first time.

The only thing I wanted after all that abuse, was a Saber Rider movie with Ramrod blasting the hell out of a robot beast. And Peter Cullen voicing the transformation.

EDIT

The same night, I watched RockNRolla. Lots of talking in heavy British Accents and an breathless plot. There's a time and place for everything. Departures is next.

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wah! TGV got cut scene summore ar?

I watch in GSC mid valley....just same as the Cathay version wor!
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:54 AM)
wah! TGV got cut scene summore ar?

I watch in GSC mid valley....just same as the Cathay version wor!
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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jun 30 2009, 09:34 AM)
laugh.gif

anyone noticed that when the five robots went under the sea, the sonar detected 5 bogeys. but after Megatron came back alive, there's 6 bogeys? (remember the robot that was dismembered?  laugh.gif )

5 -1 + 1 = 6. oh yeah!  rclxms.gif
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If you watch the TGV version its correct....5+1=6....because they never show the part where 1 of the robots got dismembered.

QUOTE(The Hardest Thing In The World @ Jun 30 2009, 10:29 AM)

Come to think of it, reading someone here posting about TGV's shorter version, I remember a few years back watching the Matrix 2 in Ipoh and they actually cut off the entire highway chase scene. I was pretty gutted. Maybe I got the shit version here too,
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My GOD!....they cut the whole highway chase scene in the Matrix2 in Ipoh?!!..thats Bad...
The worst I saw was Predator 2....as a kid...saved money to watch it...end up watching a 45min documentary!!

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:59 AM)
i watched a third time at tgv,my verdict they cut quite a lot of footage.
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duh....rest my case...no more TGV for me..

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TGV's growth been "stunted" these days. In many newly opened malls... GSC managed to succesfully opened cinemas there. I guess TGV have to make do with whatever halls they got. Cashcows like TF2 needs to be milked to the max... The only way to cram more showtimes per day in limited halls would be "reducings" its running time.


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QUOTE(mukhlisz @ Jun 30 2009, 09:34 AM)
laugh.gif

anyone noticed that when the five robots went under the sea, the sonar detected 5 bogeys. but after Megatron came back alive, there's 6 bogeys? (remember the robot that was dismembered?  laugh.gif )

5 -1 + 1 = 6. oh yeah!  rclxms.gif
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They used the short version where Scapel proceed to use the allspark without dismantling one of them. So we get 5 down and 6 backup.

Scalpel appears with Ravage, Long Haul, Mixmaster, Rampage and Scrapper = 5

Scalpel with Ravage, Long Haul, Mixmaster, Rampage, Scrapper and Megatron = 6

Another thing to note::While Devestator(Scavenger, Long Haul, Rampage, Scrapper, Hightower, Mixmaster, Overload) was formed in the battle, other versions of Long Haul, Scrapper, Mixmaster and Rampage are seen separate from Devestator, presumably to serve as the Decepticon military forces. They are the ones battling the military, Bumblebee(killed Rampage red version) and Jetfire(killed Mixmaster)


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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 30 2009, 01:42 AM)
i dunnoe how to reply to this? Its another guys idea not yours, and its clear that the original author didnt really have access to all the past literatures,so i find his ignorance amusing? haha.
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i watched a third time at tgv,my verdict they cut quite a lot of footage.
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Another thing to note::While Devestator(Scavenger, Long Haul, Rampage, Scrapper, Hightower, Mixmaster, Overload) was formed in the battle, other versions of Long Haul, Scrapper, Mixmaster and Rampage are seen separate from Devestator, presumably to serve as the Decepticon military forces. They are the ones battling the military, Bumblebee(killed Rampage red version) and Jetfire(killed Mixmaster)
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They used the short version where Scapel proceed to use the allspark without dismantling one of them. So we get 5 down and 6 backup.
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i didn't even realize there was a short version.. laugh.gif

it could just be TGV all long.. biggrin.gif

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Duh??? How much more blur can you be... i even put the source there.  doh.gif
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duh, i said why quote a guy who know nuts about TF as to supplement your biasness towards the movie? next time bold the whole thing and read as it is presented to you. doh.gif

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What sort of footage are we talking about, here?
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I guess after the transformers collection reported today on the net, I guess even the critics can be put to shame especially those who thought it was a bad movie. I suppose people wants to be entertained and thats what they got. Plain and simple. In a way, it kinda make them look bad because after what is said and done, the audience reponded differently.. ouch!
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i dunnoe how to reply to this? Its another guys idea not yours, and its clear that the original author didnt really have access to all the past literatures,so i find his ignorance amusing? haha.
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<sigh> Please stop justifying the movie's weaknesses with the supplementary novels and comics. A movie needs to stand on its own. You want to spend your money on the extra junk, go ahead - the rest of us have every right to complain if our RM12 gives us an unsatisfying experience.
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dude this movie is based on a extensive literature that spans over comic books,novels and also cartoon series, hey werent you the guy that said the humans have no role in the G1 series? what,now you are changing camps all of a sudden? just because i could justify it with facts with past work and you cant,that doesnt warrant you to say im spending money on junk. Some of us actually spend our money on toys,comics and novels because we are true blue fans how does it make em junk? The movie has obvious references on the past literature,you just need to know where to look, its not like a story that came up from some random writer's head to stand on its own. Its based on a franchise that has been around for years of course it has to relate to that and it did in many instances. What do you mean the "rest of us" if i were to do a calculation of the number of positive comments and negative comments of this movie,your "us" is just but a small number.

hmm wait to make my comments above more stingging i'll show you how you flip flops in your commentary.

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wow you gotta wonder werent those past literature? arent those junk too? first you base your comments on a past work and say its not the same now you say its junk and irrelevant,wow you can really change your stance that fast.

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hmm you like it but you dont like it now,flip flop again.


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Titanic is 3 hours + wor. If TF2 is given another 1 hour i guess more details can be display and a better plot.
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All he's saying is the movies are standalone. Reading up the comics or watching the cartoons aint supposed to be prerequisites to enjoy this dumb action movie. And I agree 100%.
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dude this movie is based on a extensive literature that blah blah blah
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nah, its not a standalone..its a trilogy ..so i'll wait till TF3 is done
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I still can't see that fact that you need to add more time for the movie.Look at Watchmen for example since they properly tell what's going on in the story and the movie is less then 2 hours only!
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Watchmen have less action. Too much story and u can even listen ppl snoring in the cinema. Fansboys love the movie. Normal ppl dont. Some ppl expect action from those comics/cartoon franchise.

I'll take no story transformer vs too much story watchmen anytime. Im not saying watchmen was bad, but i prefer transformer more as for many ppl its gonna be movie to rewatch. I dont think there is many ppl who loves to rewatch Watchmen because many even leave in the middle of the show due to too much story and less action.

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just watch it yesterday noon, in a half full cinema

I watch G1 since I was a kid, TF1 for me is good, but no great
and I've no complaint about how the actual TFs in the movie turn out, and how they differ from the actual cartoon version.

but for TF2... my impression is doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
my complains are...
- the TFs are getting too fragile compared to the one in TF1
- Megatron is smaller and no increase in power with his new tank form
- too many anonymous keleifei TFs
- lame and fragile Devastator, that's the biggest disappointment for me
- oh yeah... just dunno why i didn't laugh out loud at those so called joke scenes doh.gif

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jun 30 2009, 03:16 PM)
just watch it yesterday noon, in a half full cinema

I watch G1 since I was a kid, TF1 for me is good, but no great
and I've no complaint about how the actual TFs in the movie turn out, and how they differ from the actual cartoon version.

but for TF2... my impression is doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
my complains are...

- the TFs are getting too fragile compared to the one in TF1
- lame and fragile Devastator, that's the biggest disappointment for me

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That's the burden of having the whole epic battle speed up to match "human years".

We humans waged battles for dozens of years, then either one gives up or both faction simply come to their senses.

But autobots and decepticons been waging wars for millions of years. Im sure there are typical bots thousands of years old or older. Even Prime lead autobot far longer. And suddenly on earth, we see nearly half of the transformers easily "injured" and killed in less than a day's length of battle. Even the big devastator himself.





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nah, its not a standalone..its a trilogy ..so i'll wait till TF3 is done
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jun 30 2009, 02:16 PM)
just watch it yesterday noon, in a half full cinema

I watch G1 since I was a kid, TF1 for me is good, but no great
and I've no complaint about how the actual TFs in the movie turn out, and how they differ from the actual cartoon version.

but for TF2... my impression is doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
my complains are...
- the TFs are getting too fragile compared to the one in TF1
- Megatron is smaller and no increase in power with his new tank form
- too many anonymous keleifei TFs
- lame and fragile Devastator, that's the biggest disappointment for me
- oh yeah... just dunno why i didn't laugh out loud at those so called joke scenes doh.gif
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They have more bigger screen time than optimus by blown up piece laugh.gif

I wonder why didn't intro/send Decepticon Seekers [akin to SW clone trooper] in the movie apart of Starscreen, Thundercraker, Dreadwing in the movie...
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btw... the scene I found funny is when the autobots starts rolling out in the beginning of the movie

I LOL at the parade of autobots vehicles laugh.gif

All those US car manufacturers (Chevy, GM and etc...) all are in deep financial shits now laugh.gif

The good guys are all using USA near bankrupt cars, while the bad guys are those foreign cars like Audi which is still doing strong laugh.gif

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jun 30 2009, 02:53 PM)
btw... the scene I found funny is when the autobots starts rolling out in the beginning of the movie

I LOL at the parade of autobots vehicles laugh.gif

All those US car manufacturers (Chevy, GM and etc...) all are in deep financial shits now laugh.gif

The good guys are all using USA near bankrupt cars, while the bad guys are those foreign cars like Audi which is still doing strong laugh.gif
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Now I see what Michael Bay did thar

Was fun because I expected robots duking with each other and shitloads of explosion is right on
Story was bleh and wtf no introduction to the new autobots especially the female tfs

Oh spongebob in ghetto voice is funny
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Nonsense. How will TF3 affect your views on TF2? All the other great trilogies were great as standalones as much as a trilogy. TF2 failed in both.
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That is how i view trilogies. It is up to your own preferences on how you rate it. Often they can cover up the plots on later movie which did not appear on previous. If there is no comfirmed trilogy or continuation then i will rate it as a standalone finish with TF1 and TF2.


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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jun 30 2009, 02:53 PM)
btw... the scene I found funny is when the autobots starts rolling out in the beginning of the movie

I LOL at the parade of autobots vehicles laugh.gif

All those US car manufacturers (Chevy, GM and etc...) all are in deep financial shits now laugh.gif

The good guys are all using USA near bankrupt cars, while the bad guys are those foreign cars like Audi which is still doing strong laugh.gif
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Not to mention Volvo... (contructicons) laugh.gif
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Umm I see pretty disturbing TF2 goofs in imdb.com

there are human pilot visible in starscream, and drivers for constructicons, and treat it like a movie flaw. Don't they know transformers can generate hologram of humans on their driver seat to avoid suspicion?
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Jun 30 2009, 02:47 PM)
Watchmen have less action. Too much story and u can even listen ppl snoring in the cinema. Fansboys love the movie. Normal ppl dont. Some ppl expect action from those comics/cartoon franchise.
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Umm I see pretty disturbing TF2 goofs in imdb.com

there are human pilot visible in starscream, and drivers for constructicons, and treat it like a movie flaw. Don't they know transformers can generate hologram of humans on their driver seat to avoid suspicion?
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Much of these goofballs are some amateur fanboys that maybe in their memories recalled watching Transformers G1 cartoon, and maybe own a few of G1 toys back when they were kids. So with their limited mindset of 'we know all about Transformers' knowledge, some really funny things will come out from them.
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QUOTE(karasawamk2 @ Jun 30 2009, 03:00 PM)
Not to mention Volvo... (contructicons)  laugh.gif
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Micheal Bay is trying to show American cars pwning Euro cars laugh.gif
well... only in movies or in his dreams tongue.gif

well... who knows, maybe the American car sales will increase after the TF2 movie wink.gif
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i dunno why so many critical about this movies...
honestly..i enjoy watching TF1 & TF2 ...
maybe coz i turned my brain off when watching those movies...
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- The last part where Sam is injured, I notice his face burned & swollen. But during his hugging Mikaela, his face is ok already???

- I think the Matrix of Leadership heal Sam face after meeting with the Robots Angels/ Deities when he woke up right?
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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jun 30 2009, 03:26 PM)
- The last part where Sam is injured, I notice his face burned & swollen. But during his hugging Mikaela, his face is ok already???

- I think the Matrix of Leadership heal Sam face after meeting with the Robots Angels/ Deities when he woke up right?
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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 30 2009, 02:59 PM)
That is how i view trilogies. It is up to your own preferences on how you rate it. Often they can cover up the plots on later movie which did not appear on previous. If there is no comfirmed trilogy or continuation then i will rate it as a standalone finish with TF1 and TF2.
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Damn! I didnt know I had to wait to see how bad TF3 is before I can say how bad TF2 was!

Anyway going by how things are in the first two movies, this will be the first trilogy to feature fully interchangeable plots in all 3 movies.
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Let it go xin, these people have a point. ROTF's just isn't as fun as the first movie.
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Btw seeing the box office numbers, I dont think it will end just at 'trilogy'. Ka-ching!
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Let it go xin, these people have a point. ROTF's just isn't as fun as the first movie.
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Lol, looks like they are grabbing me instead of me letting go. I did stated it is my own way of rating trilogies and it does not concern other ppl, instead they are forcing themselves to blend to my way. Real funny ppl lol.

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QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jun 30 2009, 03:26 PM)
- The last part where Sam is injured, I notice his face burned & swollen. But during his hugging Mikaela, his face is ok already???

- I think the Matrix of Leadership heal Sam face after meeting with the Robots Angels/ Deities when he woke up right?
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i think so too,cause when the projectile hit him and he fell to the ground,blood was everywhere behind his body. They sort of used their powers to heal him up,sort of like how wolverine heals after an intense fight.

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what's next in the future episodes?
Quintessons ?
Unicron?

Since they mention this in the movie, "God create us in His Image, who create them?"

Quintessons is coming in TF3 to pwn all of the TFs tongue.gif


unicron is too big and too bad ass to show in the movie
Bay won't be able to think of a way to defeat the planet eating TF tongue.gif

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i only hope that Dinobots would be included...
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but Dinobots is just doesn't match with the current era

dinobots fossils maybe? tongue.gif

btw, there are still quite a few TF elders as shown on the map, Jetfire is just one of them, few more elders in the next movie, perhaps?
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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 30 2009, 04:07 PM)
Lol, looks like they are grabbing me instead of me letting go. I did stated it is my own way of rating trilogies and it does not concern other ppl, instead they are forcing themselves to blend to my way. Real funny ppl lol.
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they are just trying to make you conform to their ideals, till you agree to their statements they'll come after you like no tomorrow, i see repetitive statements over and over again.
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Ya the TF elder would work if Dinobots are to be included. The Ravage render is really nice and i reco that if Dinobots are based on such rendering, it would be cool.lol
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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Jun 30 2009, 04:22 PM)
but Dinobots is just doesn't match with the current era

dinobots fossils maybe? tongue.gif

btw, there are still quite a few TF elders as shown on the map, Jetfire is just one of them, few more elders in the next movie, perhaps?
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that could be a probability too,i wanna see defensor and the protector bots take on Devastator's constructicon. Heres a trivia some of the bots in ROTF, at the desert was created by Starscream that explains them being identical to some of the constructicon and also shows how they took on similar forms as the original cons,due to cloning perhaps? as witnessed at the Nemessis on one of Jupiter's moons.

I would also wanna see, Grimlock and Ultramagnus in the next movie.


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And you wonder why fanboys get a bad name.  biggrin.gif
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Much of these goofballs are some amateur fanboys that maybe in their memories recalled watching Transformers G1 cartoon, and maybe own a few of G1 toys back when they were kids. So with their limited mindset of 'we know all about Transformers' knowledge, some really funny things will come out from them.
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I recall one that talked about it, as if he made the whole cartoon series by himself and then resoting too say that its junk and the movie should be self explanatory.


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Haiz.. you guys so many complain.. better go and see Power Ranger lar... hehehe...
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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 30 2009, 04:07 PM)
Lol, looks like they are grabbing me instead of me letting go. I did stated it is my own way of rating trilogies and it does not concern other ppl, instead they are forcing themselves to blend to my way. Real funny ppl lol.
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Haha, dont worry lah. I'm not trying to get you to agree with me, just having a bit of fun. This movie is fun to debate because

a) it really divides the audiences... you either love it or hate it (or in certain cases you kinda like it but love bashing it anyway... whistling.gif)
b) there are loads of people constantly debating it




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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 30 2009, 03:06 PM)
Umm I see pretty disturbing TF2 goofs in imdb.com

there are human pilot visible in starscream, and drivers for constructicons, and treat it like a movie flaw. Don't they know transformers can generate hologram of humans on their driver seat to avoid suspicion?
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They can actually.. Remember TF1. MH53 pilot? And the Arcees.

QUOTE(mssv19 @ Jun 30 2009, 03:26 PM)
- The last part where Sam is injured, I notice his face burned & swollen. But during his hugging Mikaela, his face is ok already???

- I think the Matrix of Leadership heal Sam face after meeting with the Robots Angels/ Deities when he woke up right?
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things will be a-ok too if Mikaela hugs me blush.gif
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So why were people expecting a top notch storyline from a freaking transformer?

Correct if I am wrong but isn't that the cartoon Transformer also don't have a superb story as well...so why only Transformer movie got bashed for being...kiddish?
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Just turn off your brain and enjoy the whole scene. No need to argue whether it is logic or illogical or something is not right la, because this movie is suppose to entertain people. If you want to talk about fact, dont watch this movie because you might get a heart ace or better watch discovery channel. I am giving this movie 4/5 for their effort to create a superb CGI and super hot acting by Megan Fox. I wish if there is a plan for TF3, I would like to see MB and George Lucas directing the movie together. They should be able to fall on each other to make a very outstanding movie compare to TF2 and Star Wars. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jun 30 2009, 06:31 PM)
a) it really divides the audiences... you either love it or hate it (or in certain cases you kinda like it but love bashing it anyway...  whistling.gif)
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watched this movie for the 2nd time today!Everything is awesome.Would go for it again!
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 30 2009, 09:40 PM)
watched this movie  for the 2nd time today!Everything is awesome.Would go for it again!
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Transformer 2, 2 times.

But i think i will get the Blue ray for both of them!!


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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jun 30 2009, 06:31 PM)
a) it really divides the audiences... you either love it or hate it (or in certain cases you kinda like it but love bashing it anyway...  whistling.gif)
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I suppose this is why the movie's theme song is called "New Divide". tongue.gif
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QUOTE(equustel @ Jun 30 2009, 10:20 PM)
I suppose this is why the movie's theme song is called "New Divide". tongue.gif
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 30 2009, 03:06 PM)
Umm I see pretty disturbing TF2 goofs in imdb.com

there are human pilot visible in starscream, and drivers for constructicons, and treat it like a movie flaw. Don't they know transformers can generate hologram of humans on their driver seat to avoid suspicion?
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the bumblebee one is a goof.

in the middle east,when sam tells his parents to get into bumblebee and get away as far as possible,the next shot shows someone in the car steering it.

i consider it a goof because bumblebee was supposed to get the parents to safety,he wouldnt need the father/mother to drive him.hell,i dont know if they're in the right frame of mind to even think of driving
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jun 30 2009, 10:51 PM)
the bumblebee one is a goof.

in the middle east,when sam tells his parents to get into bumblebee and get away as far as possible,the next shot shows someone in the car steering it.

i consider it a goof because bumblebee was supposed to get the parents to safety,he wouldnt need the father/mother to drive him.hell,i dont know if they're in the right frame of mind to even think of driving
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Didn't have time to edited maybe... hmm.gif

I dunno about the next TF sequel but maybe they explain about PRIMUS [who create the cybertronian / Sibertronion] race and UNICORN / Quintesson? nod.gif
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i like how they potray a average sucker loser joe ending being the hero of the earth and getting the hottest chick and the fatest car with the biggest frens
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 30 2009, 10:55 PM)
i like how they potray a average sucker loser joe ending being the hero of the earth and getting the hottest chick and the fatest car with the biggest frens
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QUOTE(karasawamk2 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:56 PM)
Dudeformers  laugh.gif
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i remember last time i watch TV got 1 transformer movie where the autobots gave the boy a robot suit where he can use to transform into a vehicle.

which movie?

Imagine they gave that to sam LOL
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 30 2009, 11:08 PM)
i remember last time i watch TV got 1 transformer movie where the autobots gave the boy a robot suit where he can use to transform into a vehicle.

which movie?

Imagine they gave that to sam LOL
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 30 2009, 11:08 PM)
i remember last time i watch TV got 1 transformer movie where the autobots gave the boy a robot suit where he can use to transform into a vehicle.

which movie?

Imagine they gave that to sam LOL
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thts the movie with unicron,optimus and ultra magnus died?and rodimus is borned
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A boy with a robot suit... got those were the days.. blush.gif

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btw, dunno but why didn't they didn't intro Seekers in the TF2 movie... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(BelowAverage @ Jun 30 2009, 11:08 PM)
i remember last time i watch TV got 1 transformer movie where the autobots gave the boy a robot suit where he can use to transform into a vehicle.

which movie?

Imagine they gave that to sam LOL
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yeah Spike Witwicky controlled Fortress Maximus to save his brother buster. its one of the series of im not mistaken. It was also in the animated movie, used by daniel.


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A boy with a robot suit... got those were the days..  blush.gif

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btw, dunno but why didn't they didn't intro Seekers in the TF2 movie...  hmm.gif
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they did didnt they? Jetfire and the other that wheelie projected on the map. Those are the seekers


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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:44 PM)
yeah Spike Witwicky controlled Fortress Maximus to save his brother buster. its one of the series of im not mistaken. It was also in the animated movie, used by daniel.
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U mean the marvel transformers? If not mistaken, he Head on with Spike after fortress binary partner, Gallion (can't remember the spelling and original part of fortress) died in volcano errupting...

I remember he blast shockwave into pieces when try to save his brother or was it ratbat....
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QUOTE(karasawamk2 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:52 PM)
U mean the marvel transformers? If not mistaken, he Head on with Spike after fortress binary partner, Gallion (can't remember the spelling and original part of fortress) died in volcano errupting...

I remember he blast shockwave into pieces when try to save his brother or was it ratbat....
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i remember now its the marvel TF, Galen Kord who was Fortress's binary partner and he gave the power over to Spike.yeah it was Fortress who blasted shockwave,but he didnt get to save buster at the first try only later on after optimus was ressurected.

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:00 AM)
i remember now its the marvel TF, Galen Kord who was Fortress's binary partner and he gave the power over to Spike.yeah it was Fortress who blasted shockwave,but he didnt get to save buster at the first try only later on after optimus was ressurected.
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Powermaster Optimus... laugh.gif

Yeah those comic... damn those where the days.. i remember the UK Transformers storyline is more darker than US counterpart (especially bounty hunter Deadhead, 2005 Transwars Timeline, Wreckers and the drawings). Simon Furman sure know how to tell darker side....

btw have u read IDW Transformers:All Hail Megatron....

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QUOTE(karasawamk2 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:07 AM)
Powermaster Optimus...  laugh.gif

Yeah those comic... damn those where the days.. i remember the UK Transformers storyline is more darker than US counterpart (especially bounty hunter Deadhead, 2005 Transwars Timeline, Wreckers and the drawings). Simon Furman sure know how to tell darker side....

btw have u read IDW Transformers:All Hail Megatron....
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haha nope just gotten my hands on IDW's War Within series. Will find that one and read it. I like the fact there are some elements in this movie that is taken from the marvel,idw franchise especially the Fallen, Jetfire and Grimlock along with the other bots struggled to banish him in War Within hehe.

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:13 AM)
haha nope just gotten my hands on IDW's War Within series. Will find that one and read it. I like the fact there are some elements in this movie that is taken from the marvel,idw franchise especially the Fallen, Jetfire and Grimlock along with the other bots struggled to banish him in War Within hehe.
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I think it's dreawave production that went to bankrup before IDW broughts it. Plus should see the All Hail Megatron, much darker storyline (especially Starscream which surprise characterzation)... recommend to read...

The fallen is quite bulky in TF:WW compare to TF:ROTF..... huhuh flex.gif

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:44 PM)
yeah Spike Witwicky controlled Fortress Maximus to save his brother buster. its one of the series of im not mistaken. It was also in the animated movie, used by daniel.


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they did didnt they? Jetfire and the other that wheelie projected on the map. Those are the seekers
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Well i mean an army of seekers clones which when Megatron depoly them when Spike gets to Optimus to revive since Seekers (akin to Clone Trooper SW) was main army of the deceptions (in G1, DW TF) instead protoforms aka keileifei...

Only once they intro in Bay TF is well Starscream, Jetfire and Thundercracker, Dreadwing [IDW TF:Reign of Starscream]

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QUOTE(karasawamk2 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:18 AM)
I think it's dreawave production that went to bankrup before IDW broughts it. Plus should see the All Hail Megatron, much darker storyline (especially Starscream which surprise characterzation)... recommend to read...

The fallen is quite bulky in TF:WW compare to TF:ROTF..... huhuh  flex.gif
Well i mean an army of seekers clones which when Megatron depoly them when Spike gets to Optimus to revive since Seekers (akin to Clone Trooper SW) was main army of the deceptions (in G1, DW TF) instead protoforms aka keileifei...

Only once they intro in Bay TF is well Starscream, Jetfire and Thundercracker, Dreadwing [IDW TF:Reign of Starscream]
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Yeap,they bought all rights of DWP,will check that novel out. The fallen was quite bulky and he had this freaky fire coming out from his head all the time not to mention manhandling Grimlock like a toy one and memorable moment would be this hehe.
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the protector bots fighting devastator,classic.

Hmm in the ROTF,the seekers here could also be the cons at the desert,merely clones of the constructicons in bipedal form as they were made by starscream on board Nemesis. Starscream, Jetfire and Thundercracker, Dreadwing werent they called skyraiders in G1?



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The only thing i dun like in t2 is why jetfire must move using a stick and have beard on it's face? in cartoon his is old but still very active.. but in this movie..........

Really potong steam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(Skyvergil83 @ Jul 1 2009, 01:29 AM)
The only thing i dun like in t2 is why jetfire must move using a stick and have beard on it's face? in cartoon his is old but still very active.. but in this movie..........

Really potong steam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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err that is because he didnt age well due to lack of energon and he was in a stasis lock for many many years before the shard reactivated him,he did say without energon the transformers will rust and have a slow death more of age and die a painful and slow death. You must concentrate on how Jetfire's explain why he was the way he was la brader.

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Some confusing questions in tf2

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Just watch the movie last week, i would say the graphic handle is pretty amazing and improve a lot compare to transformer 1 and most probably is the best from all the film i have been watch. But somehow i still feel i am more enjoyable when watching transformer 1....
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QUOTE(Skyvergil83 @ Jul 1 2009, 01:29 AM)
The only thing i dun like in t2 is why jetfire must move using a stick and have beard on it's face? in cartoon his is old but still very active.. but in this movie..........

Really potong steam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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they made him look damn old... like some grandpa.

and it seems like he's not coming back in T3? another disposable robot by Michael Bay huh... zzz...
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 1 2009, 09:06 AM)
they made him look damn old... like some grandpa.

and it seems like he's not coming back in T3? another disposable robot by Michael Bay huh... zzz...
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that is to go hand in hand with the notion that the elders aka jetfire were on earth for a very long time, looking for the matrix i believe and also to give emphasis to the fact that the TF's were here long before Megatron crash landed on earth. Well if you think of disposable robot there a lot of them in G1,armada and others that died without a proper introduction even Optimus dies in the 80ies movie does that make him disposable?

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 09:26 AM)
that is to go hand in hand with the notion that the elders aka jetfire were on earth for a very long time, looking for the matrix i believe and also to give emphasis to the fact that the TF's were here long before Megatron crash landed on earth. Well if you think of disposable robot there a lot of them in G1,armada and others that died without a proper introduction even Optimus dies in the 80ies movie does that make him disposable?
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Yes old but meaning last time Jetfire dont have beard and dont have walking stick?

and his beard grows over the years?

robot old is still a robot witht he same young face.

dont think its a good emphasis.
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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jul 1 2009, 09:50 AM)
Yes old but meaning last time Jetfire dont have beard and dont have walking stick?

and his beard grows over the years?

robot old is still a robot witht he same young face.

dont think its a good emphasis.
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Maybe its get rusty, thus those metal are clinging there, makes it looks like beard tongue.gif

If you watch G1 series, or the 86' transformers movie.

It show's some elders transformers with beard, & some transformers are kid size. tongue.gif
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yes they have beard but those are like really childish ideas and they even cry.

Imagine transformers crying in the movie, what will you say?
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Don't need to imagine, one of them did cry. Some farted(well, it seems like that to me!) and some hump on human's legs like some dogs do(usually you see these dogs a lot in other Hollywood movies, not so much in real life).
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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jul 1 2009, 11:16 AM)
yes they have beard but those are like really childish ideas and they even cry.

Imagine transformers crying in the movie, what will you say?
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:48 AM)
Yeap,they bought all rights of DWP,will check that novel out. The fallen was quite bulky and he had this freaky fire coming out from his head all the time not to mention manhandling Grimlock like a toy one and memorable moment would be this hehe.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

the protector bots fighting devastator,classic.

Hmm in the ROTF,the seekers here could also be the cons at the desert,merely clones of the constructicons in bipedal form as they were made by starscream on board Nemesis. Starscream, Jetfire and Thundercracker, Dreadwing werent they called skyraiders in G1?
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Was called skyraiders before seekers term was borm by fandoms, along with mass shifting and sparks which first introduction in beast wars...

The Seekers aka Jetron in japanese in G1 what can i remember:-

Starscream
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Acid Storm
Rainmaker
Sun Storm [Clone of Starscream appear in DW TF]
Dirge
Ramjet
Thrust

Guess who huhuh.. tongue.gif

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oohhh yeaa they did cried ah forgotten about that part.


but was part 2 of G1 transformers and they do have the hologram thingy

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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jul 1 2009, 10:57 AM)
oohhh yeaa they did cried ah forgotten about that part.
but was part 2 of G1 transformers and they do have the hologram thingy
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sometimes transformers need to be serious in order to project the right image... crying and humping at someone's feet is just too much.

saying some jokes is still ok, but not that.

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QUOTE(jstbid @ Jul 1 2009, 10:16 AM)
yes they have beard but those are like really childish ideas and they even cry.

Imagine transformers crying in the movie, what will you say?
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they are not mere robots, they are living entities with souls. They even have politicians back in cybertron,a law system,a social structure and all that. So in a sense they are just another alien society with a metal/electronic body. In that sense all this bickering about what they can do or cannot do is nonsense, if humans can fart,burp or joke that doesnt mean an alien species cant do the same eventhough they are a bit different than us, wheelie humping megan fox leg is just a comic relief nothing more,if you dont find it funny than others will,TF is never to be serious in the cartoon series days,if you want a serious or darker tone to the story read the books like All Hail Megatron and other novels,they are aimed at a more mature and analytical audience.

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guys, where can i get this mp3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-De67tpJ84
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downloaded ost but cant seem to find the exact music.
thanks.

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Yes, I don't know what happened to ROTF. Afterall, it is the same team that did the first one. One good example of a great and funny moment was the entire Autobots in Sam's backyard.

Also, it would've been great if we didn't get pointless characters like that tag-along guy(Sam's room mate, anyway remember his name?). What was the point of having him? And would've been greater if the Twins screen time were replaced with Sideswipe and Jolt. And it would've been a movie we all wanted if the Autobots were to engage the Decepticons head on in the village in Jordan instead of hiding behind humans.

Less humans for the next movie and Bay to die before they start making it!!!
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QUOTE(nutella @ Jul 1 2009, 11:25 AM)
guys, where can i get this mp3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-De67tpJ84
(starts from 0:40)

downloaded ost but cant seem to find the exact music.
thanks.
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that one is call scorponok
its in the first movie ost biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 11:23 AM)
they are not mere robots, they are living entities with souls. They even have politicians back in cybertron,a law system,a social structure and all that. So in a sense they are just another alien society with a metal/electronic body. In that sense all this bickering about what they can do or cannot do is nonsense, if humans can fart,burp or joke that doesnt mean an alien species cant do the same eventhough they are a bit different than us, wheelie humping megan fox leg is just a comic relief nothing more,if you dont find it funny than others will,TF is never to be serious in the cartoon series days,if you want a serious or darker tone to the story read the books like All Hail Megatron and other novels,they are aimed at a more mature and analytical audience.
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Yup, like nimrod said, i recomend IDW All Hail Megatron, TF Spotlights story, Megatron Origins and recently IDW Transformers... more darker tone, complex story especially characters like Starscream, Sidewipe and yes Galvatron... must read! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(The Hardest Thing In The World @ Jul 1 2009, 11:28 AM)
Yes, I don't know what happened to ROTF. Afterall, it is the same team that did the first one. One good example of a great and funny moment was the entire Autobots in Sam's backyard.

Also, it would've been great if we didn't get pointless characters like that tag-along guy(Sam's room mate, anyway remember his name?). What was the point of having him? And would've been greater if the Twins screen time were replaced with Sideswipe and Jolt. And it would've been a movie we all wanted if the Autobots were to engage the Decepticons head on in the village in Jordan instead of hiding behind humans.

Less humans for the next movie and Bay to die before they start making it!!!
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again its a story line,just because you dont like it doesnt mean its bad and its vice versa with those who like it. Leo was there as he and simmons were responsible in creating awareness about the existence of the decepticons on earth through their respective websites without him they never would have known where the elders like Jetfire was,or would he met Simmons. The twins were there to show that the TFs also have an intricate society of adult,old and young transformers,they are trying to portray them as another civilization that pretty much embody the social structure like ours. Sideswipe had a major role in the Veiled threat and Jolt went of to New York when the decepticon attacked, before the scene at the forest.

How to have less humans in the next movie? Whats the point of calling them robots in disguise? if not for their ability to transform into everyday human vehicles? thats what they are known for,thats what get us all hooked with the first cartoon series and the humans have played an integral part even during those times,try watching the first animated movie you can see the relationship between humans and bots even back then.

The reason why the autobots didnt go all out with the decepticons at the desert because its a tactical disadvantage and hey they consider humans as comrades and fought with them side by side for over 2 years under NEST, so they need all the help they could get imagine Ironhide,the twins,arcee,Ratchet,Sideswipe,Jetfire,Bumblebee, and Jolt taking on all the other 20 something decepticons,they will overwhelm them in minutes especially Megatron and starscream not to mention The Fallen,they were just too many of them.

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I know I've nitpicked a lot about ROTF. And I'm not the only one. Allow me to say one thing.

A good movie doesn't need so many people to defend it. A good movie defends itself. smile.gif

ROTF isn't the worst movie. It also isn't the best. I'd say it's an average movie, hampered by its inconsistent plot and some bad editing.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/smg-transf...-questions.html

This is a good article, pretty much sums up how poor the plot is. If the producers could answer half of them in the movie itself, it'd have been a great movie for sure smile.gif
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 1 2009, 12:00 PM)
I know I've nitpicked a lot about ROTF. And I'm not the only one. Allow me to say one thing.

A good movie doesn't need so many people to defend it. A good movie defends itself. smile.gif

ROTF isn't the worst movie. It also isn't the best. I'd say it's an average movie, hampered by its inconsistent plot and some bad editing.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/smg-transf...-questions.html

This is a good article, pretty much sums up how poor the plot is. If the producers could answer half of them in the movie itself, it'd have been a great movie for sure smile.gif
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Well having read a few point in that link, that does seems a lot like nitpicking tongue.gif, I don't need logic of that sort mentioned in the link in a Transformers movie, I need to see robots fighting robots. I believe my points in the earlier post still stands, no matter what the others say.

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for those who havent watch T2

cathay movie listing for the weekend is up! go book your seat(s) now!

i've gotten mine~~~ after being slow poke on last week... geez.
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QUOTE(The Hardest Thing In The World @ Jul 1 2009, 12:03 PM)
Well having read a few point in that link, that does seems a lot like nitpicking tongue.gif, I don't need logic of that sort mentioned in the link in a Transformers movie, I need to see robots fighting robots. I believe my points in the earlier post still stands, no matter what the others say.
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i'll second that, just need some robots pwning robots and thats good enough for me. It's an action movie to me and i enjoyed it, so that is more than enough for me. Going for the 2nd time lol, solely to rewatch the action scenes hehe ..

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I know I've nitpicked a lot about ROTF. And I'm not the only one. Allow me to say one thing.

A good movie doesn't need so many people to defend it. A good movie defends itself. smile.gif

ROTF isn't the worst movie. It also isn't the best. I'd say it's an average movie, hampered by its inconsistent plot and some bad editing.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/smg-transf...-questions.html

This is a good article, pretty much sums up how poor the plot is. If the producers could answer half of them in the movie itself, it'd have been a great movie for sure smile.gif
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hey i find it an oxymoron statement wouldnt that also mean "A bad movie doesnt need so many people to bash it,a bad movie will tank by its own",well then there are those who join the bandwagon to bash it so that it'll tank,ultimately a good movie shows how much it earns at the box office. If your product is good people would buy it if not it'll just suck and disappear from the market.

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Everyone has their own opinion about this movies and more like personal preferences, heck at the end, TF:ROTF is quite enjoyable despite some messy plot and not enough autobots/deception screen time except Bumblebee and Deception keileifei biggrin.gif

Well can't wait for TF:3....

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:23 PM)
hey i find it an oxymoron statement wouldnt that also mean "A bad movie doesnt need so many people to bash it,a bad movie will tank by its own",well then there are those who join the bandwagon to bash it so that it'll tank,ultimately a good movie shows how much it earns at the box office. If your product is good people would buy it if not it'll just suck and disappear from the market.
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Well, box office earnings isn't really a good measure for how good a movie is. Box office is just a result of your marketing and hype. Coincidentally, TF2 is a good example. Despite all the bad reviews floating around, it's still doing well. Why? Marketing and hype. The marketing this time around is 10 times more than the first movie, almost to the point of overexposure.

I never would imagine seeing Optimus promoting KFC, much less seeing Bumblebee every time I pass by a Petronas biggrin.gif

Most good movies though, never earn enough. That's why there are such things as "sleeper hits", movies that don't have such a gargantuan marketing budget, but should be good enough to rake in good money.

Ahh, a little off topic now tongue.gif

BTW, I love this summary from a review. Another bash, but I just love its conclusion.

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They got feelings because they surf the internet. as what OP said in first movie. they might already lurk 4chan /b/ or site which related.
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They got feelings because they surf the internet. as what OP said in first movie. they might already lurk 4chan /b/ or site which related.
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They surf the net to learn about human culture and language. I tend to see many mistaken Transformers as a normal tincan robot which does not have inteligence or sort. Please think of them as Aliens which is in metal exoskeleton not tincan robots.

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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 1 2009, 12:42 PM)
Well, box office earnings isn't really a good measure for how good a movie is. Box office is just a result of your marketing and hype. Coincidentally, TF2 is a good example. Despite all the bad reviews floating around, it's still doing well. Why? Marketing and hype. The marketing this time around is 10 times more than the first movie, almost to the point of overexposure.

I never would imagine seeing Optimus promoting KFC, much less seeing Bumblebee every time I pass by a Petronas biggrin.gif

Most good movies though, never earn enough. That's why there are such things as "sleeper hits", movies that don't have such a gargantuan marketing budget, but should be good enough to rake in good money.

Ahh, a little off topic now tongue.gif

BTW, I love this summary from a review. Another bash, but I just love its conclusion.
icon_rolleyes.gif http://thescorecardreview.com/film-reviews...the-fallen/3989
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Isnt that the case with Terminator Salvation as well, i never saw terminators in shampoo or deodorant ads before? it tanked after a few days cause people didnt like it and didnt bother to watch reruns. Again my analogy still stands,if a product despite its marketing glitz is still bad it'll just tank,people will just not buy it. Marketing will only serve as a means to ingrain the product in our minds,but the outcome is not controlled by the marketing campaign its the likes of us who control the movie's direction by watching it and asking others like our friends to watch sort of like word of mouth marketing,can be a good or bad thing, if it trully sucked everyone will just go back and tell their driends and family it sucked and this process will go on and on until its just stop racking money for the movie.

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hhuhu rumor heard that Leo Spitz might return in TF3 in much "meatier" role.

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I will not bother about movie critics. They always rate a boring movie as good and box office hit as bad.

Anyway, I will definitely bring my 3 year old son to watch it again maybe 2 or 3 weeks later. He just love it!! thumbup.gif
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I will not bother about movie critics.  They always rate a boring movie as good and box office hit as bad.

Anyway, I will definitely bring my 3 year old son to watch it again maybe 2 or 3 weeks later.  He just love it!!  thumbup.gif
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Close his eyes when it comes ot Mikaela on the bike lol ... wub.gif
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haha the more we try to conceal this things from our kids,the more curious he or she will be once they grow up, i feel explaining and being frank about will be better once the kid reaches a certain age. look at how our parents trained us, haha they think its taboo and we end up learning about it through other means whistling.gif

man, Peter Cullen is the greatest la,his voiceover for optimus is just superb heres a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeSYktFTWfI&feature=fvw

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:58 PM)
Isnt that the case with Terminator Salvation as well, i never saw terminators in shampoo or deodorant ads before? it tanked after a few days cause people didnt like it and didnt bother to watch reruns.
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Let's agree to disagree yah? On an unrelated note, IMO Terminator Salvation became a victim of its own franchise. A lot of fans became disillusioned by T3 and, possibly, Terminator: Sarah Connor. Fans didn't even bother to watch because they already know it's going to suck. Frankly I haven't even watched it either. Because I know it's gonna disappoint.

Anyways, ROTF is still enjoyable. I loved the animation, I loved seeing Devastator combine and climb up the pyramid (I hate Devastator balls though) and Optimus vs Megs/StarS/BlackOut was great. I just wished the movie didn't make me ask questions like "Does Wheelie really have a ****?" or "Does Jetfire have a bad knee?"
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hhuhu rumor heard that Leo Spitz might return in TF3 in much "meatier" role.

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Nooooooo!!!!!

QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 1 2009, 02:53 PM)
Anyways, ROTF is still enjoyable. I loved the animation, I loved seeing Devastator combine and climb up the pyramid (I hate Devastator balls though) and Optimus vs Megs/StarS/BlackOut was great. I just wished the movie didn't make me ask questions like "Does Wheelie really have a ****?" or "Does Jetfire have a bad knee?"
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Yeap, Terminator salvation does not appear to be nice....lucky ROTF is still good to me...tho the ending is kinda fast...like one shot kau tim... *sigh*...front part drag too long already...but it was a nice show....and I'm going for second time again! Yipee!
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jul 1 2009, 02:53 PM)
Let's agree to disagree yah? On an unrelated note, IMO Terminator Salvation became a victim of its own franchise. A lot of fans became disillusioned by T3 and, possibly, Terminator: Sarah Connor. Fans didn't even bother to watch because they already know it's going to suck. Frankly I haven't even watched it either. Because I know it's gonna disappoint.

Anyways, ROTF is still enjoyable. I loved the animation, I loved seeing Devastator combine and climb up the pyramid (I hate Devastator balls though) and Optimus vs Megs/StarS/BlackOut was great. I just wished the movie didn't make me ask questions like "Does Wheelie really have a ****?" or "Does Jetfire have a bad knee?"
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fine by me bro. I really had huge problems with that movie due to the fact the proceedings of T2 never really been implemented in T4,especially when theres a huge nuke explosion and people can still walkabout with no radiation effect or the fact that the terminators are immune to hot liquid metal.

That forest scene for me was epic,kinda sad to see optimus getting backstabbed and die like that. Jetfire, did say his boosters are fried and had a hard time transforming especially the lack of energon and being in stasis lock for a very long time,i wish they could somehow bring him back since his spark is still okay. He represents the fate of tfs without energon,extinct that is.


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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jul 1 2009, 03:05 PM)
Nooooooo!!!!!
But one shoot kena kau tim.  shakehead.gif

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haha,he didnt actually die just disintegrated into smaller part,one thing about this whole franchise the Transformers can come back to the living one way or the other thats the beauty of it all, like how energy never disappears it just transforms into something else. I would love too see him back and fight defensor hehe the autobot version of the constructicons.


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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jul 1 2009, 03:11 PM)
fine by me bro. I really had huge problems with that movie due to the fact the proceedings of T2 never really been implemented in T4,especially when theres a huge nuke explosion and people can still walkabout with no radiation effect or the fact that the terminators are immune to hot liquid metal.

That forest scene for me was epic,kinda sad to see optimus getting backstabbed and die like that. Jetfire, did say his boosters are fried and had a hard time transforming especially the lack of energon and being in stasis lock for a very long time,i wish they could somehow bring him back since his spark is still okay. He represents the fate of tfs without energon,extinct that is.


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haha,he didnt actually die just disintegrated into smaller part,one thing about this whole franchise the Transformers can come back to the living one way or the other thats the beauty of it all, like how energy never disappears it just transforms into something else. I would love too see him back and fight defensor hehe the autobot version of the constructicons.
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Defensor have 50/50% chance against Devestator... bring Omega Supreme, Metroplex or King Atlas.. thats make a difference flex.gif

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Transformer 2 is a real fun movie to enjoy. But the end battle is clearly a recruitment advert for the US Marines..
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The only thing I dun like about both TF movies is that almost all Decepticons are stainless steel color. Half the time I couldn't make out who was who. I wouldn't be able to pick Megatron out of a line up.
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Hey, a lot of those Decepticons that crash landed in Jordan, didn't take any forms. That's why they are "stainless steel colour". At least that's my take.
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If they really debut Devastator, sure hope they change the 'gorilla' style. Sure dont wanna see 2 gorillas fighting (defensor/devastator) lol..
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QUOTE(karasawamk2 @ Jul 1 2009, 03:22 PM)
Defensor have 50/50% chance against Devestator... bring Omega Supreme, Metroplex or King Atlas.. thats make a difference  flex.gif
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oh oh and bring grimlock too hehe.man somehow rather i dunno if i sound selfish, i'd like to see transformers last more than a trilogy, i mean hey the only thing i can remember from my cartoon watching days are pretty much,Thundercats,Ultraman,Power Rangers, and every single time i look forward to the one and only transformers, i even fantasize how easily the decepticons could defeat the power ranger's megazords and gundam lol.


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QUOTE(The Hardest Thing In The World @ Jul 1 2009, 03:39 PM)
Hey, a lot of those Decepticons that crash landed in Jordan, didn't take any forms. That's why they are "stainless steel colour". At least that's my take.
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yeap except for a select few like mixmaster and other,they were just mere clones created in the Nemesis by Strascream just like those kelefei bots in the cartoon series and novels. Reminds me of the "Attack of the Clones". Plus there were not much vehicles near the pyramids to mimic and transform into, thanks to Dr Zahi Hawass limiting vehicle access in the pyramids in real life. It was the first time in 30 years that any filming was allowed there hehe apparently Zahi Hawass is a fan so go figure.

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Hey, a lot of those Decepticons that crash landed in Jordan, didn't take any forms. That's why they are "stainless steel colour". At least that's my take.
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Ya, so i'll take note on my rewatch on this. As there is non-disguise Decepticons and also other Constructicons too.
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so we'll be expecting TF3 as Attack of the Decepticons Clones !!! lol

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