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post Jun 29 2009, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Jun 29 2009, 09:13 AM)
this is a classic example of,autobot are loser-bots and decepticons are god like. I'm guessing you never really followed the series,novels or the comic books. Look up Grimlock,Defensor,Ironhide and Bumblebee in those literature you'll see how strong they are. Even in the first movie Bumblebee took down barricade effortlessly. And the Fallen cmon,he is so freaking old and did mention he can only be defeated by a prime so theres no surprise there plus,the prime plus jetfire combo really make him stronger what,sigh if you failed to see all this and factor all this togather you'll forever think decepticons are stronger. heres a scenario if autobots are forever loser bots how could the war in cybertron last for ages? wouldnt the decepticon win the war and theres no more story after that? The whole point of this franchise is depicting 2 races of robots of equal strength fighting on a war for eons.
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He told u he was confused. Lol. Maybe he dont understand the movie much thus no joy for him. Too bad. Its like im watching a horror flick where everyone was screaming except me because i dont really understand the horror etc.

Its Bay fault. He made the auto bots looks cool while deceptions looks bad ass and transform from huge and ugly vehicles except the R8. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Jun 29 2009, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Jun 29 2009, 11:03 AM)
Bro, there is no plot in ROTF. So don't bother asking biggrin.gif

If you keep asking questions about the plot holes or inconsistencies, you'll just mess up your own brain tongue.gif Just accept that TF2 isn't up to everyone's expectations and have very low expectations for TF3. Or pray Michael Bay isn't in charge of TF3.

Thank you Michael Bay, you have destroyed the Transformers franchise  rclxms.gif Even the kiddies Transformers:Animated followed the original TF spirit, but you decided instead to put Sam Witwicky and big explosions above everything else.
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God sake this is not cartoon or animation. They film this movie for worldwide not only for the cartoon fans. So dont except the same storyline as cartoon. Take it as a new dimension or story. If still cant except it and miss the old times transformer, go back to ur store and look for the tapes.

Normal ppl will like the movie. Cartoon fans will have higher expectations because they expect a freaking million dollar investment to a 2 hour movie to give the same storyline like months of 45mins cartoon. I dont even pay high expectations on the likes of dinobots or unicorn etc. I dont think this is gonna happen. The movie has always been related to humans which is why i don't forsee dinobots or unicorn but instead it might be a Reventon decepticons in the future.

MB sux but u still watch TF2 dont u? No matter ur comments is bad or good, u ard put ur money into them. $ is all they want. I bet u're gonna spent it again on TF3 just to see whether it meet ur expectations do u? tongue.gif tongue.gif

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The dinobones in the muzium perhaps? Since the've shown the muzium like the ones in Night in the muzium, they might have dinos but its very unlikely unless there is fossils because they do revealed that transformers ard exist million years ago. However if they do, they wont appear long. They would just get whack as usual by Optimus.

So, dont expect too much ler. It will only gives u dissapointment
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post Jun 29 2009, 05:22 PM

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Wipe away the childhood transformer memories and take this as a new one. Maybe the movie will feel better.

Normal ppl dont really know that Soundwave is an expert. They just know its a decepticons that is able to hack the satellite.

Regarding the plot issue, its pretty hard for the to put all the scenes into a 2 hour movie. Maybe they will have an extended cut in BD?

Darkchaser: Hey bro. I guess u think too much le. You ard have bias towards this movie before watching it. I tot they stop running away from Jetfire only when Simmons said something like they shud be safe because Jetfire doesn't seems to atk them.

And seriously, this movie aint for the Transformers fans but instead strike a balance where Transformer fans can enjoy the CGI and the world would understand end enjoy the movie as well. If the movie was purely for the fans, they might reduce the investment and make it looks like a comic like u guys wished. No megan fox, no army, no jokes etc. Better off watching cartoons. tongue.gif

Edit: Dont think too logic la. Transformer itself arent logic too rite.

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post Jun 29 2009, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 05:29 PM)
Well, undeniably there are many stuff failed to be tied up nicely.

We see some constructicons on board the tanker, ready to do salvaging work. Wow.. finally, they waited for 2 years for a human tanker to set course passing through the abyss where megatron is dumped (I though such  place is restricted and guarded heavily by the navy? how come a tanker can easily pass through it?). I think soundwave is helping in "diverting" the route of the tanker to help the constructicons. But prior to the tanker departure from the port, don't the crew double check its cargo ? If I'm the ship crew or dock staff, I will be shocked to find out there are "additional" construction vehicles on the tanker, and demand to know its origin before giving a green light for the tanker to depart.

Well, considering the nature of decepticons to be violent. The most logical explanation would be, those cons torch the port/dock and killed everyone.. then transform into vehicles and went onboard the tanker. then soundwave helps "reprogram" its route to go salvage megatron.
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Well maybe the construction vehicles is a cargo itself? Tot about this possibilities? And maybe the tanker is far way from the navy perimeter and the decepticons dropped and dive towards megatron. There is also a possibilities on this rite? Decepts are violent, but they do mentioned that they wanted to remain unnoticed until Megatron finally decided to let the world knew rite? They are way too many possibilities because humans have different thinking. Its just happens that we do not think the same as Bay and his script writers. We can only sit and try to enjoy the rm10 spent. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:51 PM)
what about two directors.... they discuss... whatever
Uwe Bol and Michel bay

nimrod323 - why still allspark power still transform all machines in decepticons??
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They didnt transform all machines into decepticons le. They become wild robots that doest side Autobots nor Decepticons.

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post Jun 29 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 29 2009, 05:54 PM)
He said that from TF1 movie... its understood many of the world's technology were reverse engineered from NBE1-1 aka Megatron. THis means most electrical and electronics appliances big or small.. will have some NBE-1 "signature" or characteristic:- which is ... violent. So when allspark "activates" them into bots... the very first characteristic they show would be... megatronic aka .... kill kill kill!


Added on June 29, 2009, 5:55 pm

No.. that was my opinion. others may have more logical opinions.
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Ya. I have the same opinion as urs. So the wild robots i mean will just kill all on sight like u mentioned due to the NBE-1 source/parts/dna.
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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Jun 29 2009, 05:55 PM)
i know not all whatever... just like to put all there... coz the msg is from optimus when he first meet sam on earth ....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think when megatron or prime got hold of the all spark, they will able to use the power to rebuild their civilization. Since the robots from all spark are wild, Prime or Megatron will have to train them to side either one. If it falls into Megatron, it will definitely be a decepticon.

Its only my POV dou.
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QUOTE(The Hardest Thing In The World @ Jun 30 2009, 10:29 AM)
Hmm, I watched the first movie again yesterday and noticed:-

There are more robots fighting than ROTF. More of Ironhide, Ratchet and the nasty Decepticons. The only time these Autobots were firing something was from behind the humans in some village in Jordan? Why don't Irohhide, Ratchet get out and take on these Decepticons? Ironhide didn't fight at all in this one! Why hide behind humans? The battle in the woods was over in just minutes. Why did some here says it is very impressive? Why did Bay took out all the cool stuff from the first movie? Overall there seems to be less robots fighting in ROTF?

Come to think of it, reading someone here posting about TGV's shorter version, I remember a few years back watching the Matrix 2 in Ipoh and they actually cut off the entire highway chase scene. I was pretty gutted. Maybe I got the shit version here too,
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Because iron hide and co is smart? I dont think u wanan gung ho when there are a bunch of decepticons marching towards u. Melee battle will only make things worse if u talk about logic. Tanks cant fire if Autobots vs Decepts. So accept is as Humans + Autobots vs Decepts. They are around 13 of them. Remember? Sometimes being coward will let u stay alive - Starscream.

The action is good enough for a 2 hour + movie. If its able to last up to 3 hours + like titanic, we might able to see more details from the movie.

TGV case, awwww.. never go to TGV anymore unless GSC sold out man. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:44 AM)
Even titanic have good storyline '_'

Well anyway it doesn't matter long it can last as long the plots are well made anything can be explained on proper way.
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Titanic is 3 hours + wor. If TF2 is given another 1 hour i guess more details can be display and a better plot. TF has too many expectations from TF fans and they get disappointed because based on their logic the movie shouldn't be like that. It shud be a cartoon type storyline but swapped boxes chars with CGI.

Well they are still many "stupid ppl in large quantities (as stated in TF2 vs TS thread)" that loves this movie in which making sure u have TF3 in the future whereby your're STILL going to watch it and feel dissapointed again: tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Jun 30 2009, 01:28 PM)
I still can't see that fact that you need to add more time for the movie.Look at Watchmen for example since they properly tell what's going on in the story and the movie is less then 2 hours only!
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Watchmen have less action. Too much story and u can even listen ppl snoring in the cinema. Fansboys love the movie. Normal ppl dont. Some ppl expect action from those comics/cartoon franchise.

I'll take no story transformer vs too much story watchmen anytime. Im not saying watchmen was bad, but i prefer transformer more as for many ppl its gonna be movie to rewatch. I dont think there is many ppl who loves to rewatch Watchmen because many even leave in the middle of the show due to too much story and less action.

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QUOTE(jason991 @ Jul 1 2009, 07:34 PM)
huh?
michael make tis movie in 5 days only?
i tot the cgi part eat alot of time?
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I think he means untung 200m in 5 days.

Regarding the plot nitpicking, they are several parties have give their logic explanation. Its up to ur logic whether to accept it anot. ^^

Sometimes we dont have too be too logic such as debating whether a robot can disguise in human form, pyramid, museum etc. Transformer itself is not logic. How i wish my car can transform into one.

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We never went to heaven before. We cant say it exist as well. We believed in our heaven and maybe robot do believe in theirs as well. Hehe

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QUOTE(befitozi @ Jul 2 2009, 04:50 PM)
Why look at it as robot afterlife. Take it as a common afterlife shared by all beings smile.gif
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I even think that pets have afterlife. I would call them pets wonderland. Some ppl just think too much and it causes me to think that superman is ridiculous. A flying man with red underwear on the outer layer saving the world? The heck. ~
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Yea rite.

The chopper shud land Optimus on a big mattress or air bag instead of dropping him off the ground like that.

The transformer shud not fart. They shud release some smell of burning metal instead.

They shud not get old at all. I hope my car will not get old and looks/drive the same as a new 1.

They shud not hump chicks. They shud hump their head to the wall instead.

Decepts shud not been kill by human bombs. They shud drop a 10 ton nuckler and wipe humans away and straight went to the credits.

JustforFun: Wats the purpose of taking Jetfire parts if he shud be weak as before?
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jul 3 2009, 06:46 PM)
So teenagers are the standard and not the critics? laugh.gif
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Critics from normal viewer like us doesn't makes any diff than taking teenagers as standards. Both paying the same amount of money to watch. We dont need serious or bloody mature person who claims he/she is good in reviewing movies to judge.

Our eyes are the standards. Diff ppl have diff standards. Even an oscar winner movie doesnt proves anything becoz there are still criticisms.

The important part for M.Bay is out of 10, 7 ppl love the movie and who cares about the remaining 3.

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QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Jul 4 2009, 05:09 PM)
Utter waste of money IMO, watching it once is enough to disappoint me so badly. The 1st movie was light years better than the second 1.

Pretender = FAIL
FALLEN die in 2 minutes = FAIL
Take spare parts for ownage = FAIL
Sector Seven Agent BUTT? = EPIC FAIL doh.gif
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Yea rite. I hope u be the director and make

FALLEN die in 2 hours = PASS
Custom made parts with adatanium = PASS
Your BUTT? = HOLLY PASS doh.gif

Some ppl are wierd. The butt scene only takes up less den 5 sec of the movie and considered as a bad plot. yawn.gif yawn.gif

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QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 01:23 PM)
Thats pretty much asking "Who's an idiot, raise your hand!"
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Or those idiot whom pretend to be smart, pls shut up. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(MiniEqualMe @ Jul 8 2009, 01:14 PM)
so many complain on TF2,aiya i say dont watch TF3 lar.these day people giving load of stupid opinion just to get attention. doh.gif
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Believe me, they will still watch it even they said no. Well u know, ego is serious shit that some ppl might even create dupes to avoid certain bad attention.

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QUOTE(Stupidity Police @ Jul 8 2009, 02:14 PM)
Nevermind that your remark is worded in an off tangent way to my post, but you are also judging my intelligence AND my intentions with nothing more than an internet forum personality to go by? Just raise your hand dammit! wink.gif
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Well sure.... After u shut up. tongue.gif
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How do u define audience quality and what makes u more superior compared to the so-called low quality audience?

How do u ensure its an insult to EVERYONE'S intelligent when the majority doest agree with u?

Ppl watch it first time. They found it crap. Will they watch the 2nd time? If they do, its either the crap attracts them or they are crap. Ppl re-watch because they enjoy the movie and the minor critics u mentioned wont give a shit or influence the outcome of the movie unless u are....., yes!!! Nitpicking ~~


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QUOTE(Luthrien @ Jul 8 2009, 09:32 PM)
The first was the best, the second was a huge let down, lucky i didn't go to the cinema waste of $ only.
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Hmm. Where do u watch the movie? How do u know it was a letdown? By hearing critics and not experiencing it urself?

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