I felt like I was watching Matrix:Reloaded again. Tried to be cool by adding in lots of computer graphics, and in the end failed to follow the spirit of the original movie.

Overall still a good movie, but with so many frustration points that most have pointed out. I'll just sum up my feeling with the following:

Devastator has balls.

I think Starscream is the best thing in the whole movie. He is the only one that stays true to the 80s classic cartoon. When Megatron returned and slammed Starscream into the hatchlings, it really did remind me of the original cartoon

Wanna know who ISN'T balless? Devastator

But yeah, Starscream is great. He was very quiet in TF1, but he really is like the original in TF2. He's Megatron's most loyal dog when Meg is around, but immediately tries to take over power when Meg is gone.

Is it just me, or is Demolishor in the opening scene so grossly oversized? When in his vehicle mode, he looked like a slightly big excavator, but when he transformed, he was as big as Devastator, big enough to eclipse Prime. And what about the 2 Mixmasters? One that combined to become Devastator, and one that got killed by Jetfire?

Of course, if you close your eyes to all the plotholes it is enjoyable. But there are just too many plotholes

Bro, there is no plot in ROTF. So don't bother asking

If you keep asking questions about the plot holes or inconsistencies, you'll just mess up your own brain Just accept that TF2 isn't up to everyone's expectations and have very low expectations for TF3. Or pray Michael Bay isn't in charge of TF3.

Thank you Michael Bay, you have destroyed the Transformers franchise Even the kiddies Transformers:Animated followed the original TF spirit, but you decided instead to put Sam Witwicky and big explosions above everything else.

Of course I still pay to watch it

The problem is not the storyline. I don't expect to have Unicron storyline or Return of Optimus story line. Just something that makes sense and flows nicely. ROTF doesn't. Even later animations like Robots in Disguise, Armada, Animated all have crappy stories, but they keep the spirit of the original to some extent.

The first movie was ok. If you notice it still deviated from the cartoon, but it was still good enough in terms of plot/action/flow to make it great. But the second movie fails in that they try to amp up the action but sacrifice any semblance of story.

Overall I did enjoy ROTF, but it left me feeling it could've been much more than that. I had no fault with the action CGs, they are very nice. But the whole thing just feels disjointed. You can clearly see the poor directing when a transformer is there in one scene and in the next, he disappears. There is no flow.

But hey, just as you said I'll still pay for TF3 no matter what. If only to see how much more they mess up the franchise

It was a disappointment for sure. I think I laughed at the inconsistencies more than I laughed at the jokes Especially when they discovered Jetfire, one scene they were running scared because he's a Decepticon, next scene they come forward to Jetfire. Why the hell did you run away in the first place!!!

Personally I don't really care who the director is, Michael Bay, Uwe Boll, whoever. Just keep the story straight and proper. Doesn't matter if it's Transformers, terminator, GI Joe or whatever, nothing kills a movie more than an inconsistent plot and bad story flow.

Too true. Another example of the director trying to create some kind of suspenseful scene and disregarding simple common sense. It wouldn't be much of a scene if the sub-operator went "6 bogeys went into the water. OMG the same number is coming up!!"

Michael Bay, do you want my 6-year old cousin to teach you math??

And let's not even get to how short Megatron's journey was from Earth to Mars. Or how the hell his thrusters were powerful enough to escape Earth's gravitational pull.

Oh wait, according to some people, we are not supposed to "think". Just "enjoy" the film as "entertainment"

Sure, that sounds plausible. But in this case, even the original cartoon made more sense. Transformers were only able to move to another planet either by 1) Space bridge, or 2) Transformers that can transform into vehicles that can do space travel, like Skylynx and Astrotrain. Even Megatron had to ride Astrotrain, he alone couldn't do it.

Oh wait, this is Transformers. Stop thinking, stop thinking.....

I know I've nitpicked a lot about ROTF. And I'm not the only one. Allow me to say one thing.

A good movie doesn't need so many people to defend it. A good movie defends itself.

ROTF isn't the worst movie. It also isn't the best. I'd say it's an average movie, hampered by its inconsistent plot and some bad editing.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/smg-transf...-questions.html

This is a good article, pretty much sums up how poor the plot is. If the producers could answer half of them in the movie itself, it'd have been a great movie for sure

Well, box office earnings isn't really a good measure for how good a movie is. Box office is just a result of your marketing and hype. Coincidentally, TF2 is a good example. Despite all the bad reviews floating around, it's still doing well. Why? Marketing and hype. The marketing this time around is 10 times more than the first movie, almost to the point of overexposure.

I never would imagine seeing Optimus promoting KFC, much less seeing Bumblebee every time I pass by a Petronas

Most good movies though, never earn enough. That's why there are such things as "sleeper hits", movies that don't have such a gargantuan marketing budget, but should be good enough to rake in good money.

Ahh, a little off topic now

BTW, I love this summary from a review. Another bash, but I just love its conclusion.



http://thescorecardreview.com/film-reviews...the-fallen/3989

Let's agree to disagree yah? On an unrelated note, IMO Terminator Salvation became a victim of its own franchise. A lot of fans became disillusioned by T3 and, possibly, Terminator: Sarah Connor. Fans didn't even bother to watch because they already know it's going to suck. Frankly I haven't even watched it either. Because I know it's gonna disappoint.

Anyways, ROTF is still enjoyable. I loved the animation, I loved seeing Devastator combine and climb up the pyramid (I hate Devastator balls though) and Optimus vs Megs/StarS/BlackOut was great. I just wished the movie didn't make me ask questions like "Does Wheelie really have a ****?" or "Does Jetfire have a bad knee?"

I thought the champion of no-introductions was Jolt. At least Optimus did say Sideswipe's name in the beginning. Jolt all of a sudden appeared when Optimus died. I was like WTF who the heck is that blue Autobot?? Only at the end of the movie did we learn his name

I rewatched some scenes from TF1. From a CG-wise point of view, Revenge was spectacular, but simply put the original Transformers scene were better executed. I can easily say I enjoy TF1's final scene better against TF2's.

I loved how they made it suspenseful. Bonecrusher grappling with Optimus on the highway, Starscream firing missiles, Bumblebee injured, Megatron snapping Jazz in half, then Optimus against Megatron. Very nice. And when they managed to gun down Brawl and Blackout....very nice.

I don't get the same thing with the Egypt fight in Revenge. The best thing was basically Bumblebee vs Rampage, that was pretty cool, but the rest was forgettable. The forest fight was good and probably the best, but it was pretty sad to have a climax that was, well, underwhelming. I wish they put the forest fight at the end

No matter how you try to justify it (robot/alien heaven/whatever) the idea of a robot afterlife is just ridiculous, seriously.

Sci-Fi stories have been done so many times, and they have explored robot/alien subjects enough times. But how many times have they explored the idea of a robot "afterlife"?

I follow sci-fi and fantasy stories, and really enjoy them. But I can't wrap around the idea of robots/aliens having an afterlife.

Simply put,

Idea of Robots/Aliens - Quite preposterous but acceptable.
Idea of Human Afterlife - Preposterous for some but acceptable.
Idea of Robot Afterlife - So preposterous it's funny.

So, we are supposed to believe that Aliens, Predator have Predator heaven? Or that the aliens in Mars Attack go to hell because they attacked Earth?

Come on.