...well, a movie can have more than one MacGuffin.    But perhaps MacGuffin isn't the right term to describe them. How about... they're plot devices.

Not characters.

I didn't say they couldn't be characters. They certainly could, and probably should. I say they're not characters, because Michael Bay doesn't treat them like characters. 

For the significant ones, plot devices. All the rest, special effects.

Again, they have no personality, nor are they capable of expressing any emotion. They are not characters. What else could they be?

But that's literally the only thing they do - advance the plot.

There's certainly plenty of bad writing in the movie, but I don't think that's why the robots have no personality. Even that annoying Leo and the Tyrese Gibson character have more personality than the robots.

I think it's because Michael Bay deliberately made them that way. It's the basis for his entire approach to the franchise. He's purposely making Transformers movies in which the Transformers are not characters.

Everything about how the movies portray them fits this interpretation.

That's just what they say in the press junkets.    Do you honestly think that came across in both movies?

You can't even remember what "values" he stands for. And no, "stands for values" does not a character make.
But was it an emotional scene? No, it was played for laughs. That wasn't an emotion, that was a special effect.

What I meant was, a symbol is not a character. The Autobots do not have values, they...

...actually, they don't even symbolize them. They merely spout platitudes.
I'm a fan of Pixar, so I have no beef about special effects used to show emotion. Bumblebee crying is a gag, not an emotion. He cares about Sam so much that he can't bear to be left behind? Where was he when the kid died?

Whaa? Don't get me in this.

Its obvious you have more fun bashing it.  

I guess most of you forgot its a MICHAEL BAY movie. If you want to enjoy a Michael Bay movie, leave your brains out and just enjoy:-

1) Kick-ass action scenes
2) Kick-ass military hardware
3) Kick-ass slow-mo action scenes
and the most important of all
4) Kick-ass boobs

OK, seriously this movie is full of plot holes. Actually this year first few summer blockbuster movies plots are really full of holes. Star Trek, Terminator and now Transformers 2 plot are really really terrible. But as a popcorn blockbuster movie, they do work.

Hey, even the best blockbuster movies are full of holes and have horrible dialogues. Remember the original Star Wars trilogy. I am not even talking about the prequels.

Actually, my ratings scale goes to 4 stars max.

But in 10 years time, they'll be seen exactly the same way Armageddon and Pearl Harbor are seen now. 

RM 10.00 for 2 1/2 hours action movie... sudah worth it lor...

Okay so I read that article, and the guy was being nitpicky, though he did have a few good points. ROBOT HEAVEN AND BACK?! That is shit deus ex machina writing right there.

But some of the replies from the Shoot For The Edit guy were even more douchbaggery.

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Added on July 1, 2009, 7:38 pm


I mean the movie made 200million at the box office in only 5 days la!