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This post has been edited by kianwee: Aug 14 2010, 02:03 PM

wah.. version 4 already!

i'm still toying around with the settings in my PV80.. DVE disc haven't arrived yet.

you are talking without logic or manufacturing background.. this theoretical RM999 50inch plasma will be 30-40KG thing made out of 30KG ot metal, plastics and electronics.. bos you know how much is raw material for 30KGs worth of grade A virgin raw material parts (without processing/manufacturing/molding/metal stamping) or not?
those examples you given are 100gm to 2kg items.
also, due to bulk weight, significant distribution and warehousing costs will already eat into a RM999 plasma's retail price.
besides unless you can show me a RM999 plasma, your assumption of a RM999 is dead wrong.

you can't even show me a RM999 34inch jap brand CRT TV, still want to talk so much.

The biggest issue with plasma tv is the production cost . Hence, there is too little models that are 32" (probably only LG). Most of the plasma tv manufacturers aims for 37" and above. Majority go for 42" as it is not feasible to produce.

Some have even abandoned the whole production of plasma to focus on LCD TVs. While there are debates that the tv price will go very very low, I doubt it would. Unless, there are ways to cut down on the production & distribution costs. Even then, manufacturers will always strive for good profit margin by re-inventing the products or adding more value to the products.

No one would want a dwindling profit margin, right ?

yeah lor, if not we will see a RM999 32inch plasma now..

rite on bro... handphone on the other hand is just one small circuit board & some plastic. furthermore, some handphone costs are subsidized by telcos as their main income is the monthly call rates hence the markeing plan for cheap handsets.

hi everyone.. i need some help.. im thinking of getting a lcd tv + the home theatre system (that comes as a package) .

Im currently looking @ this package.. Sony KLV - 40S400 (TV) + DAV - DZ777K ~ RM 5898 ...
is this okay??

My budget is arnd 6k.. is there anyone who can help to advise how to choose a LCD tv .. first time buying .. previous tv is CRT.. thx..

** urmmm .. anyone?? **

This post has been edited by jagz: Jan 29 2009, 05:27 PM

Hmm.. now.. i know most of you argue bigger is better, but, if you are to choose between 46A950 (7k+) and 52A650 (8k+), which one will you go for?

err.. go for 46A950... at least it's bigger than 40" Contrast is better

series 9n is LED/newer - but why not consider a plasma 50pv80 or 42py800 at that budget??

oh ya.. maybe the 42py800 but.. LED is the darkside we are talking about now.. hehehe.. so ronnt88.. not bigger is better this round? hahaha

I tried this: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Panasonic-TH42PX80/Settings/
So far satisfied with the PQ with DVD and Xbox - astro..emm just live with it la..

... err..... ideally 55"A950 la..
kekeke

wah this Ronn, support korean kau kau..

wei. I read FEB issue HomeTheater liao.. even XBR8 cannot fight KURO FD-111... your LCD buang in kongkang la. cabuts..

price/performance ratio my fren...
by the way, i wanna buang oso but too heavy to carry on my own so keep la

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Added on January 29, 2009, 5:56 pmP/S : everywan on this thread oso support their own stuff wan... so i follow la... hahahahah

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Jan 29 2009, 05:56 PM

aiseh.. forgot.. guess you rite. your A950, at 10-11k (cant remember) , cannot get XBr8 (USD7k) or Kuro (USD5k)

i think xbr8 ~27k?? Kuro ~22k?? better get 2 full HD projectors la..

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Added on January 29, 2009, 6:04 pmno wait.. better get 1 A950 and 1 full HD projector...

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Jan 29 2009, 06:04 PM

Does it specifically has to be Sony? What is the main usage?





Potential HD pj kaki

This post has been edited by htkaki: Jan 29 2009, 06:10 PM

i agree with this.....well....dont need to be A950....but a TV and a FullHD PJ....

that is my setup...

Potential HD pj kaki

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just waiting 4 my time to come

so which Full HD you using?

epson emp-tw2000

is that the 1080UB us model? nice.. one of the best LCDs of Q3-Q4 last year..

yes, this is the european model number...US it is known as the PowerLite Pro Cinema 1080UB.

You are not exposed much and have not travelled much. Malaysian plasma and lcd prices are inflated. See other countries and their prices and you will realise that you do not know much.

Whilst a 52 inch Sharp LCD was sold for RM25,000 (now RM13,999) a few months ago, my friend in the US bought it for US$1199. Now, even can get US$999. My friend in the UK bought it more or less same price. How now can you account for your so called storage, virgin raw materials and profit margin each level of marketing then? Btw, this is a 50KG item.

And a 50 inch Pana plasma is far cheaper in the US. So how lah your theory of raw cost? And that is now. What about 5 years time when penetration is much higher?

So how come the consumer can buy it for US$1199? and yet all those from manufacturer to the marketing levels ie distributor and retailer can still make profit?

Once the penetration increases in Msia and consumers demand more and realise how cheap the flat panels are overseas, prices would drop.

Your comments are based in your small world of just Malaysia. Open your eyes globally.

Friend, your desktop 15 inch LCD was a bomb years ago. Infact, it was like RM5000. Now, you can get a 24 inch widescreen for less than RM900 and a 19 inch for RM400 even.

This post has been edited by michaeltan1943: Jan 29 2009, 08:17 PM

i smell gunpowder

52 inch for US $1,300?

guys, i just saw a philip 42 inch (42PFL5403) lcd tv for RM 4399.. at alamanda carefour, is it a good deal?

not a good deal. Go to Harvey Norman and you can get the New Pana LCD 42 inch for RM3899. (Friend bought one in Pavillion). And its shockingly 1080p!

This post has been edited by michaeltan1943: Jan 29 2009, 08:21 PM

you still haven't show me where got RM999 50inch plasma.. talk to me again when that comes reality..

philips model number 42PFL5403.....think should get at least starting with 7 (in the place of the 5 in the model number) 7 or 9. those are better.

how to show you when I said one day, meaning the future. Tak tahu baca kah?

Basic reading also don't know but want to ask hundred and one times where the RM999 50 inch plasma is.

you are not that bright are you?

Is it THIS model?.. If it is.. the one I mentioned is better...

This post has been edited by eone: Jan 29 2009, 08:45 PM

bro, yes, that is the model. But philips where can challenge panasonic?

amazing how someone can argue so convincingly about what that didnt happen yet like it's 100% true, you came from the future kah?

wa lau.. 66yrs old d, better control ur blood pressure dude

If you learn how to read properly, you will see or decipher that I was referring to the future. Friend, learn to read first before jumping your gun.

Who said today ie now, gor RM999 50 inch plasma?

But i saw at the display, they put side by side with othe models.. which also include that panasonic model... the philip one stands out.. i nyaris2 beli on the spot just now ... so, i'm here now to ask other opinion..

philips make pretty good LCD TV.....i had similar experience 2.5years ago..when i was all set to get the sony...and then a humble philips sitting next to it shows a better picture from the same feed.

This post has been edited by rthj: Jan 29 2009, 08:53 PM

true also. Philips makes for Bang & Olufsen also. Believe it or not!

And if Bang and Olufsen say they are that good, then they mean it!

Go for Philips bro, it is as good or better than Pana

B&O charge premium for cosmetic outlook.....hehe

and maybe some addtional x-y axis motors for one to remotely change viewing angle of tv

I wrote "amazing how someone can argue so convincingly about what that didnt happen yet like it's 100% true, you came from the future kah? "

you know how to read english or not? so I mean that you are so convinced in the "future" the price will be rm999...

anyway already offer peace to you bro, lets not change Plasma vs LCD thread into english 101 course..

This post has been edited by ar188: Jan 29 2009, 09:49 PM

i think some philips models has a motor built in to turn the TV on its y-axis at approx +/-15deg

ok bro. Peace to you too

Just want to check with you guys on the warranty for LCD & PLASMA.

From what i heard, Panasonic will send their service person to your house to check your LCD if there is any problem. How about other brand like samsung, sharp, Lg?

I cant imagine have to carry the 42 or 46 inches to the service center for little little problem. Can anyone clarify on this?

Hi.. Thanks for replying.. well it doesnt need to be sony.. but its just that I have been using sony for mostly all of my other electrical gadgets...
main usage.. watch tv.. dvds.. and play ps3 ..

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Added on January 30, 2009, 10:49 amHi all.. Just would like to know which of this theatre system is good:
Sony:
DVD Home Theatre System - DAV-FXG99K
or
DVD Home Theatre System - DAV-DZ870W

This post has been edited by jagz: Jan 30 2009, 10:49 AM

hello all sifu here,

just want to ask on how to check plasma panel usage time on panny th42PV80, mine will arrive this afternoon..TQ in advance..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/782935/+2200

go go go for plasma 42 or 50 if you got the budget leh

sometimes i wonder why people love contrast on LCD (compare higher contrasts)

This post has been edited by Jcsy: Jan 30 2009, 02:04 PM

Anyone??

heh...i find it amusing that you're expecting response in exactly 3hours and 23minutes after you posted your question.

unfortunately i dont have anything to contribute on this question.

Well, sometimes it only takes 2 minutes for someone to answer..

It's a long holiday, most of us still lazing around. Wait till office reopens, those fags will be back.

of course la, you cannot compare apple with durian. Our market is small and the RM has very little value. Even a 4L fresh milk in UK cost 0.99pence (here rm7-8/ rm6+ if on sales..). have to remember also we do not have a strong buying power like those in the western - where their economic are strong and currencies hold a greater values than us RM.

I agree with time the price can go down but not as rediculous as rm999/50in plasma or even lcd - may be monitor. Hav to include also the cost of "new" tech that will be included later to cater for the escalating cost. Raw material will always on the up trend, same for other factors such as labour, transport etc. The low prices in western countries also because they bought it over very large volume and their market also is more superior than us. Not to mention their euro, Dollar , Pound (try looking how much Ruppee for a same model in malaysia ) Furthermore, the model came if many variants than what available to us, also their model turn over is really fast..

I'll believed u if US$999 for a 50in plasma - but RM999...

This post has been edited by ic-klass: Jan 30 2009, 05:45 PM

1l milk here is 80euro cents....

macam macam ada..

from AV equipment to milk..

yeah..maybe have to specify which type of milk....hehehe...

what irony to start off the comment with 'cant compare apple to durian' and then the next few sentence comparing purchasing electronics with milk.

"got milk?"

We seriously need a moderator in this section.

I heared that samsung lcd got some input lag for ps3 games

is that true? anyone using samsung series 6,7,8,9 lcd

it's good that u know the diff between "apple and durian" and "electronics and milk(basic consumer product)" - then i assumed u understand my points..

I'm interested to buy a plasma tv, can anyone advise which better between Hitachi P42E102A and Pioneer PDP-428XG. Where to get a good price in KL?

i'm using a sammy tv... what do u mean by input lag? to be honest, i don't see any issues when playing ps3 games/blu-ray movies / astro.... just astro reslution is not great but that's expected

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Added on January 31, 2009, 3:16 pmto me, plasma is all the about the p
pioneer 1st, then panasonic....

This post has been edited by ronnt88: Jan 31 2009, 03:16 PM

yeah like comparing "Pisang"..

Got myself a Bravia KLV32V400A replacing the KLV32S310A. It is since for PS3 and DivX Media.

[quote=mattzzx,Jan 31 2009, 02:46 PM]
I'm interested to buy a plasma tv, can anyone advise which better between Hitachi P42E102A and Pioneer PDP-428XG. Where to get a good price in KL?

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Hitachi is quite crap lah. Pioneer I hear is the best

You did not hear wrongly
PIONEER = PLASMA

pioneer got lcd kuro now.

but honestly, Pioneer's forte was that it used to have the best black levels. But now Panasonic is as good. So, no point spending double buying a Pioneer. Side by side, both blacks are the same. Panasonic also gives 5 year warranty.

am i reading something wrong here?
same?????

You find it hard to read?

Pioneer plasma black level always becomes the 'reference' for other plasma and lcd. Even though 428XG is one and a half generation behind the current one, it is far ahead of the Hitachi. If they are priced similar to other plasma, Pioneer will surely dominate the flat panel market. But good things always comes at a price.

i mean when you play ps3 games do you feel any lag on the gameplay like COD or any other shooting game or do you have to but game mode to reduce lag.
Have you played on normal mode ?

panasonic these days much better liao.. pioneer is too expensive , not to mention 5 year warranty

nowadays 42 panny is so cheap =.=

Which model much better for 42's pana plasma, TH-42PY800H or TH-42PV80H/HM?

i'd rather get the PV80 than the PY800 cause the PY800 is more than double the price. Nowdays can get the PV80 for RM3188 but the PY800 is around RM7000.

The PV80 is HD ready 720p whilst the PY800 is Full HD 1080p.

Usually from Standard Definition (480) to HD Ready 720p got big difference in quality of picture.

But from 720p to 1080p, hardly can notice the difference with your visible eye.

i only played with normal tv mode.. no lag when i played mirror's edge / MGS....

remark : I'm assuming lag is like shadowing/slow response effect.

Any one know that Panny TH-42PV80H the HDMI slot support version?
if the cables HDMI v1.3 or above, still can support?
by the way, can this model support Blu-ray to 1080P?
do you mean that when the signal 1080P input and the signal will down grade to 720P? Thanks.

Tq for u info.....

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Added on February 1, 2009, 1:39 pmWhat different betwen HD Ready and Full HD? What advantage for Full HD??

This post has been edited by mattzzx: Feb 1 2009, 01:39 PM

In laymen term Full HD meant u can see all the 'hair' clearly ie more detail while HD ready can still see 'hair' but a bit burr....... Only buy Full HD if u intended to watch BD.

How about the sound between full HD and HD ready model??

Not true, i can see hair clearly in HD ready too. Infact, side by side, HD and Full HD, I saw no difference in details like hair etc.

Go to TBM in Bangsar Village and they got both Panasonic side by side. To me, both the same. But one is RM5500 and the other RM13,500 (50 inch models)

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Added on February 1, 2009, 3:09 pmsound should be the same.

This post has been edited by michaeltan1943: Feb 1 2009, 03:09 PM

man, i just bought this Philips 42PFL5403S

the HD Natural Flow did not lag the game at all, and double the frame rate.. anyway, i felt a bit dizzy coz of high frame rate..

This post has been edited by eone: Feb 1 2009, 04:31 PM

For anyone who ae interested in buying a Plasma, stay away from other model - only consider pioneer and panasonic. Both Offer 5 years warranty. The entry level for pioneer is the 42in 428XG, last price i check was aroung rm6.8k (last boxing day in HN). For panny, it is the 42in pv80 or in you dont mind losing CAT and SD card, can try 42in pv8. All are "HD Ready" with panel of 1024x768.

Black level, pioneer still the best - still can see different if put side by side.

If you have money - go for 428XG, but with that also can get 50in pv80 (real HD Ready with 1366x768 panel)

yeah tough choice between a 1366x768 50incher and a 428XG.. if same price range..

How much and where do u buy??

bro you using panasonic 42pv80 rite ? how was it when watch astro compare to panasonic 42lz80mk ?
that day i go to the shop to see between this 2 model, the plasma is more clear, the full hd lcd a bit blur...
the shop ppl quote me rm3300

Just bought a LG entry level 32inch LCD TV yesterday at Tesco (got 5% rebate on Tesco RHB CCard), model: LG32LG30RA-TA.

Me really dunno anythings about LCD TV, see cheap just bought it price at RM1688 (Free Tesco Cash Voucher RM100), using Tesco RHB CCard on last weekend got 5% rebate. Club Point: 884.

RM1688-RM100-RM84.40= RM1503.60

I also dunno why i bought it, i go tesco yesterday actually is to go buy Sandisk 4GB tumbdrive few unit one, but the Computer section guy go back liao coz i go after 10pm. saw this LCD TV, then buy lo............

is this price okay ah???? is this model good.
I buy this is for my PC usage more one......

If you gonna use it more to watch astro, then i advice you to go for plasma. LCD with plasma, erg bad marriage!!
CRT with Astro = ideal
Plasma with Astro = OK if your watching distance is right..cartoon and sport abd nat Geo, acceptable..

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Added on February 1, 2009, 7:40 pmhat off to you - spurred of the momment i guessed!!
Anyway, ou bought it, might as well enjoy it..

This post has been edited by ic-klass: Feb 1 2009, 07:40 PM

Mind to answer my noob question here ? what the advantage for plasma & lcd ?
between do you know how the quality of the panny home theater ?
sc-pt865 & sc-pt565

Me really gila one, go tesco yesterday becoz of my new Tesco RHB card wanna buy tumbdrive. End up carry a 32 inch TV back................me gila............knowing nothing with LCD TV, in my mind is wanna buy a things only, and think wanna use for my PC

i would go for the bigger screen....more bang


btw i was showing off my tiny koleksi of 1080 movies to my bil via WDTV. niamah! the whole night he was concentrating on the fine details that he can see, like someone's hair, water stains, etc instead of on the movie itself. too much definition could be a bad thing....kekeke

This post has been edited by DigitalKL: Feb 1 2009, 08:47 PM

which 1080 movies? those M2TS? WDTV play smoothly?

on your hitachi can see fine details meh? cabuts.