am i reading something wrong here?
same?????

Yes, go for it. This price should be the plain nett price, right? Without Mini HT System.
Pioneer Malaysia has no more stock (428 or 508). Make sure the shop has the stock not the use or display set.
If you didn't buy you would regret.
Trust me, chose Pioneer Kuro not other, whatever those has Full HD or even 100/200Hz, tak boleh lawan lah kawan.
Because Resolution is not the only & main issue, as long as output 1080p video signal.

not sure, you have to ask pioneer 410 users, AVIs are a mix bags, cos it can contain various codecs for video and audio not to mention codec bit rates and resolutions.. so very high chance it won't play some of the AVIs available around..

but if you going to pair the 410 to a PV80 or a 50incher, I don't really see the need for a 1366x768 panel just for the sake of "viewing" 700mb upscaled to 1080p material.. cos there is not much data to begin with.. I think these low res AVIs would look just fine on the PV80... unless you start talking about 720p MKV, 1080k MKV, or Blu-rays..

the bigger the better. there's no such thing as tv too big.
a recommendation from sony, the viewing distance should be 3 times the vertical measurement the tv screen.

If got money get the pioneer of course.....but as good as the pioneer is, if your source is not good enough...the engine can do only so much....like the saying goes, garbage in, garbage out. If you are going hi-end with the pioneer, expect to go high end with the rest of the equipment as well.

Times are bad these days, money hard to come but easy to spent, so settle for the Panny 50inch...forget abt the pioneer.

Technology is moving forward, since Plasma is legacy stuff, expect it to end in a few years time...its gonna be SED or OLED or some other technology to rule.

what will be yr opinion please in comparing these lcds vs plasmas for astro broadcast. which will dsiplay astro better?

sony 52z450 vs panasonic 50py850

samsung la52a850 vs panasonic 50py800

thank you.

Go back and look harder....  

are u kidding me??
Pioneers boast a much more natural and real picture compared to sony..
Not to mention the deeper blacks..

while audio quality can be super subjective..

but video is probably more objective (unless you are blind)hehe.. that's why, for example, people who review projectors can actually say to a certain fact that the HC7000 mitsubishi is amongst the sharpest LCD/DLPsingle chipper projector in the market compared to sharp or AE3000 etc..
same goes with a 9gen pioneer elite Plasma next to a sony XBR LCD or a A950 LCD 3way  shootout.. the winner can be quite certain depending on which category.. color, deep blacks/ deinterlace artifacts, grayscale tracking etc..  to the point you can take a photo and pinpoint where it doesn't look good.. 

if that is the case, so one can't tell if projector A is sharper than projector B ?

or if this BD recording has more grain than normal films?

or if a pioneer plasma does have deeper blacks than a CCFL backlight LCD?

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Added on February 19, 2009, 11:52 pmsome can't tell apart between a proper MP3 and a CD recording (so thats' subjective)

I dunno about you, but I can always tell between a Blu-ray (with HD content) and a DVD showing on a HDTV

because the price is cheaper.. you think if the pioneer kuro 428 is same price as PV80, which would people here choose?? I definitely know which I would choose.
please dun use audio "golden ears" comparison on the HD video world.. they are 2 different things.. no need golden eyes to see the difference..

March, all the prices of lcd n plasma will drop about 20% to 30%..

Heard from vendors.....

Pana 42PV80H is now at RM2999.00 (5 years warranty) in garage sales! 

if only 50PV80 drop somemore

i did lah (probably other brand). i looked at the price - shake head and moved to the next one in line. but the i think it was the RM18K was the Pioneer Kuro. Panasonic was never that expensive. not in 2008 anyways