Bro, I think you are a few steps too fast lei ....... look around, there are DVD players that can upscale via component la ...

Define "NEW MODEL" please.

If you are refering to models that are only available in the market last 2 & 3 months, then I am not sure.

If you are refering to the models released in 2H 2008, and still available in the market, then yes, some models still can upscale via component

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Added on February 4, 2009, 8:08 amDefine "NEW MODEL" please.

If you are refering to models that are only available in the market last 2 & 3 months, then I am not sure.

If you are refering to the models released in 2H 2008, and still available in the market, then yes, some models still can upscale via component

This post has been edited by slk5538: Feb 4 2009, 08:08 AM

I tend to agree with ar188, it is easier for me to spot the different qualities in images than sound.

I don't know, may be my eyes are better developed than my ears? or that just happen to most people and that is why when someone like Mr. Mark L. who can differentiate the differences in sound, he is regarded as "golden ear", and none is being called "golden eye" (may b only in 007 movie )

I suppose if someone is refering to the peference in the difference of images such as more colourful pic vs more natural pic than it could be subjective. But that should only apply to certain aspects. I don't think anyone would prefer a blurry image over a clearer pic.

BTW, I would pick 428 over PV80 even if it is 10% more expensive

This post has been edited by slk5538: Feb 20 2009, 08:22 AM

e... you mean LCD TV with LED backlighting? That is still LCD TV ....

If you mean OLED TV then no need to add for the time being la ... I think there is less than a dozen owners in this country even if there is any

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Added on February 20, 2009, 2:15 pmFor most ppl, the bezel design is definitely a point worth considering ... sometime you need to impress your finance minister also ma ... and she is most likely to give you a look if you just tell her about the PQ

This post has been edited by slk5538: Feb 20 2009, 02:15 PM

the specs you listed seems similiar to the Neo Plasma announced earlier by Panasonic ... If that is true then it won't be cheap

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Added on February 26, 2009, 2:55 pmBesides the points by aiz1j, comparing PV80 & PG60 side by side, I noticed images in PG60 have more details and is sharper but the IR and reflection for PG60 is really kind of serious by today's plasma standard.

and if you had read the earlier posts, probably you would notice how I disgust the LG's customer service, so I won't repeat that here ..

This post has been edited by slk5538: Feb 26 2009, 02:55 PM

bro, it is the budget you mentioned at RM 15K that prompted so many replies to you with custome set up... normal HTIB would cost only a few thousands ....

To get a detail suggestion from this forum, i suggest you listed down what is your priority requirement for the HTIB: video? audio? if video then wat you want? able to read all disc? able to upscale? BD player?

if audio is not very important to you, i suggest you get a samsung Blu-ray HT, (so it is future proof, and you will be able to play blu-ray title when they become more affordable), and spend another RM 150.00 to get a China made player, normally these players tend to be able to play 99% of the Discs out there

with your concern over the pick-up len sensitivity, i assume that you watch movie from Jack Sparrow made DVD most of the time, as most players won't have much difficulty in playing original DVD but struggle to pick up signals from those multi titles JS's DVD with sub-par PQ, if my assumption is correct, then a decent HT system plus another China made player will do for you

One of these players that can read most disc that i had experienced is the "Morgan" player. I think "Morgan" is a local brand with the player made in China

Yup, last time, when DVD was still not very popular, and VCD was still all over the place, I used my >RM 2000.00 DVD player just to watch DVD, and used cheap VC player to play VCD!!!


This post has been edited by slk5538: Mar 2 2009, 07:59 AM

Bro, I know the website says the Native CR is 30,000:1, but how do you know that the Dynamic CR is 2,000,000 : 1. Is it being mentioned any where from within the official website or sources?

Thanks, but now another question .... the X10 has NCR of 20,000:1 and DCR of 2,000,000:1. The G10 has NCR of 40,000:1 and DCR of over 2,000,000:1. Now, how does this works?
Does it means that the DCR is good to measure until 2,000,000:1 only?

Anyone cares to clarify what does infinite black panel means?

This post has been edited by slk5538: Mar 6 2009, 04:02 PM

Economy not good, bro, unless you have a few extra cents to burn, not need upgrade so soon la ... next year or even later this year newer models come out again ... it is a never ending story ...

when you metioned RM 5.5k for 50" panny, i believe you are talking about the PV80, and not the Full HD models ......

common la ... you really think that anyone is going to believe you had nothing against pioneer after posting such an message?

Anyone with an decent eye can tell the difference in the colour reproduction between the pioneer and panny sets when compare side by side ... i don't know where you have managed to meet and ask that MANY TV ENTHUSIAST that can't tell the differences .... really fanstatic la ...

Wheither the difference in PQ is worth the >RM10k premium is another issue, should not mixed up by claiming the blacks to the two sets are the same .

This post has been edited by slk5538: Mar 12 2009, 08:14 AM

Are you sure the new panasonic is gonna have 32" plasma? Currently, the 32" plasma in the market are Haier & LG only, but the spec. on both models really outdated, 480 lines of vertical resolution only. It would be good to have a 32" 720p plasma like the LG 32PG6000 in the european market.

I checked the US and UK panasonic websites, don't see any 32" plasma!

and the life span of 1st gen flat panel is probably less than 10 years

Guess there are less competitors in 2009. 2008 we saw samsung & LG come out with many models especially LG with the so call award winning PG60 series (which is a bluff, as the local PG60 is different from the award winning PG60) that was initially priced about the same as PV80.

This year, we have not heard of any samsung & LG new release in the local market yet, plus these 2 korean companies get less attention this year as they did not showcase any impressive models this year.

Panasonic on the other, got much of the publicity due to its Neo Plasma technology. And many had expected this year to be the begining of Panasonic dominace in the Plasma sector.

So, less competition = less generous offer?

This post has been edited by slk5538: Apr 1 2009, 03:52 PM

Care to clarify? Why only for him?

Dxxx, the chinese manage to put 1920 x 1080 pixels into a 32" plasma screen!

http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/dggr...-Plasma-TV.html

Too bad, this is a no name product so reliability is unknown, and CR is low too.

This post has been edited by slk5538: Apr 9 2009, 08:06 AM

I think burn in is always a threat for plasma at least for the time being, if not handle properly.

Go to the foreign AVS forum, you can actually read of some reportings on burn in to different brands of plasma. and yes, those are reportings of burn in, not just image retention.

I, for one, would never dare to leave a stagnant image on my plasma for too long, despite what has been claimed by the manufacturer.

Your postings were useful & interesting. Continue to post, don't be discourage by some ........

If more than 1 technologies are competing for the same end user / purpose, then you can indeed label which one are more superior / advance in terms of meeting the purpose / end users needs.

Personally, I think it is too early to select a winner in this particular category (plasma vs LCD), and the winner tag itself is not without dispute. A technology can be a winner in quality repoduction but a loser in survival.

LCD is gainning popularity even plasma produces better PQ. Bear in mind that the best technology does not always wins.

This post has been edited by slk5538: Apr 21 2009, 02:54 PM

Just for thoughts .... if the plasma manufacturers are so confident that new generation plasma would not suffer any burn in, then why would the like of Panasonic and LG incoperating the function to turn the black bars into grey bars?

I think that shows that even the manufacturer are taking precautionary actions to counter the burn in issue.

Again, like I mentioned in my earlier posting, I would never dare to challenge it.

I advise all plasma owner to be cautious too, however this is only my opinion. You can do what ever you like to your plasma, because it is YOURS

This post has been edited by slk5538: Apr 22 2009, 12:59 PM