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post Dec 5 2018, 05:38 PM

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Wahlao, you owe ppl money you need to pay back la. Especially you have 8k monthly income.

You know you will get very sui when owe people money? The longer you drag, the shitter your life will be. better pay back all one shot.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 5 2018, 05:37 PM)
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Itulah, beli civic lagi tapi tak mau bayar ptptn rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:39 PM

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Potong PTPTN 1.2K income tax potong how much....
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Those people gaji 8k still tanak bayar ptptn mmg bodo...nak gaji berapa mau start bayar...aku utang 50k ptptpn dah setel after 7 years....guna bonus, epf and diskaun.

Please be fair to others young student still waiting for ptptn loan approval... mak bapak tak bayar hutang ptptpn, till need to make personal loan to pay tuition fees coz no money.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(doppatroll @ Dec 5 2018, 05:39 PM)
Potong PTPTN 1.2K income tax potong how much....
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Gaji 10k, pcb, epf, 15% PT, socso, aes left around 5600 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 05:38 PM)
Wahlao, you owe ppl money you need to pay back la. Especially you have 8k monthly income.

You know you will get very sui when owe people money? The longer you drag, the shitter your life will be. better pay back all one shot.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:43 PM

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wtf ...................... i thought we can choose between 2%-15% . my original monthly payment is only rm90 , now have to pay 150++ surviving in KL very suffering eh
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:43 PM

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ok if this is only apply for those who never even pay one cent then fair, but what about those pay on scedule every month, walau, like me poorfag BUT i auto debit my monthly installment to ptptn means i dont overdue the loan, then kena also this pgb on top of my usual monthly installment??????? fair ka
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:44 PM

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8k salary but don't want to pay PTPTN, i will personally cut his kuku.

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post Dec 5 2018, 05:44 PM

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above 5k but dont want to pay PTPTN???
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM

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what about people who already do restructuring with ptptn and pay every month? now they kena fuck upside down and need to pay more?
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM

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I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM

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Ptptn ckp kontrak lame terbatal. PH sula kencing, old repayment method cancel and employer will start on salary deduction like tax deduction method.

Hahahaha basahhhh
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(rznrmolev @ Dec 5 2018, 05:44 PM)
8k salary but don't want to pay PTPTN, i will personally cut his kuku.
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Apply to ALL, regardless u never pay single cent or paying diligently on schedule
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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what if i want to continue pay by CC? hmm.gif

not possible ady? bye.gif
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:46 PM

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tu tunggu new government abolish their loan la ....
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:47 PM

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8k salary but no pay ptptn mmg deserve to cut
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:47 PM

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20k salary.
just pay up in 3 months.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:47 PM

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Dpt gaji 3000-4000... Still rase miskin dr bangla ngn nepal. Wake up call to PH, dont be new BN.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:47 PM

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post Dec 5 2018, 05:48 PM

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post Dec 5 2018, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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Shud exempt those on auto debit.... cry.gif
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:49 PM

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not bad ma... country gonna debt free soon...


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post Dec 5 2018, 05:50 PM

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GG paying 1200RM...
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(imshot @ Dec 5 2018, 05:48 PM)
How about those went overseas work and nvr pay back???
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this bug havent fix...
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Dec 5 2018, 05:48 PM)
Shud exempt those on auto debit.... cry.gif
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yeah weh can get rewards point on CC/DC icon_idea.gif
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Looks like middle income 4k kena paling teruk laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Dec 5 2018, 05:43 PM)
ok if this is only apply for those who never even pay one cent then fair, but what about those pay on scedule every month, walau, like me poorfag BUT i auto debit my monthly installment to ptptn means i dont overdue the loan, then kena also this pgb on top of my usual monthly installment??????? fair ka
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Kena also. I called their careline, apply to ALL. Including autodebit and those already do salary deduction
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:51 PM

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luckily kena scholarship hehe
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:51 PM

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u pinjam u bayar la..simple logic
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:52 PM

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if salary 8k dont want pay PTPTN tht person really char siew....god bless you
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Hahaha.. 8k still don wan pay ptptn.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(kevyon6 @ Dec 5 2018, 05:51 PM)
u pinjam u bayar la..simple logic
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They pay u idiot. If u paid 500 permonth since grad and now your salary is 8k, they will deduct 1.2k by force. ignoring previous contract
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that 4k amount tho..

seems like regular PTPTN payment amount previously.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:42 PM)
Gaji 10k, pcb, epf, 15% PT, socso, aes left around 5600  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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PT? aes summon?
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:53 PM

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they pandai, last time ask all update salary on PTPTN, for <RM4000 can no need pay.
now got record d
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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Dec 5 2018, 05:50 PM)
yeah weh can get rewards point on CC/DC  icon_idea.gif
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Me use my bank acc monthly potong sad.gif

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post Dec 5 2018, 05:54 PM

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expect a lot of house going into lelong soon, if based on net salary might be still ok, this is based on gross.

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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Dec 5 2018, 05:50 PM)
this bug havent fix...
wait for next patch
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Faster pay better lah
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:56 PM

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Salary dah 8k still tak mau bayar.
Lowest scumbag in the world.
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:51 PM)
Kena also. I called their careline, apply to ALL. Including autodebit and those already do salary deduction
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not fair for those who auto debit, so now go cancel auto debit then pay throught this pgb is better? vmad.gif
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post Dec 5 2018, 05:57 PM

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life is hard.. now pay monthly already no saving.. now have to pay more.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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lulz if liddat then my installment becum less, my autodebit already more than the table now haha

dunno should be happy onot.

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post Dec 5 2018, 06:00 PM

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Aiyo just bayar la.

Last time my salary less than 2.5k also can fully paid in 2 years. Plus i get the 20% off.

I didnt pay 1 years. I accumulated my by tabunh cause i want pay off 1 off. Keep enough money then bayar. Well i clear of debts. I dont owe anyone. Im debt free.
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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Dec 5 2018, 05:54 PM)
Me use my bank acc monthly potong sad.gif
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similar to potong with DC then.

what ayam concern now is what if people wanna pay more to quickly settle it than growing interest further if following the potong gaji scheme. not fair liao ranting.gif
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thats why old people said dont play play in study. now own self at fault cause didnt get 1st class then cry like a baby when ptptn implement auto-deduct 🤣
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Dec 5 2018, 06:00 PM)
Aiyo just bayar la.

Last time my salary less than 2.5k also can fully paid in 2 years. Plus i get the 20% off.

I didnt pay 1 years. I accumulated my by tabunh cause i want pay off 1 off. Keep enough money then bayar. Well i clear of debts. I dont owe anyone. Im debt free.
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how much you owe them weh? so fast settled? mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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can pay with CC?
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Because of PTPTN, you able to enjoy your Uni life and study in unit so that you can make a good living to earn at least RM 2000 and above (Because they only charge those above RM 2000).

Think again, without PTPTN you might be eating shit and grass, begging money on the street.

You should be thankful and pay back the amount you owe. So that gov have more money for the new generation.
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so now under 2k need to pay ptptn or not? why always change change change.. sikijap under 4k no need pay.. sikijap 1k above need pay.. now 2k above then pay.. what's this?
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Dec 5 2018, 06:03 PM)
so now under 2k need to pay ptptn or not? why always change change change.. sikijap under 4k no need pay.. sikijap 1k above need pay.. now 2k above then pay.. what's this?
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You won't be forced to pay PTPTN if your salary is under 2k, you can still opt to pay if you want. You will still owe the full amount just payment can be delayed until you earn more than that.
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 06:03 PM)
Because of PTPTN, you able to enjoy your Uni life and study in unit so that you can make a good living to earn at least RM 2000 and above (Because they only charge those above RM 2000).

Think again, without PTPTN you might be eating shit and grass, begging money on the street.

You should be thankful and pay back the amount you owe. So that gov have more money for the new generation.
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Another person missing the point. The rant here is about compulsory 15% deduction regardless if have follow your schedule payment or not. You have been paying 500 for maybe 5 years, but now suddenly monthly payment increase to RM1.3k per month. ALL borrowers affected no matter u good paymaster or not
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 06:03 PM)
Because of PTPTN, you able to enjoy your Uni life and study in unit so that you can make a good living to earn at least RM 2000 and above (Because they only charge those above RM 2000).

Think again, without PTPTN you might be eating shit and grass, begging money on the street.

You should be thankful and pay back the amount you owe. So that gov have more money for the new generation.
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agree!

still dont understand some still dont want pay PTPTN for more than 10 years bangwall.gif

RM2k only pay RM50, surely affordable if doesnt go mamak or yum cha every night sweat.gif
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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Dec 5 2018, 06:02 PM)
how much you owe them weh? so fast settled?  mega_shok.gif
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Not much 16k, but within that period i really eat alot of dirt.
One of the guy i knew same college with me he got the ptptn, he direct buy new ipong pc.

Well i glad when they launch the discount rate. I paid one off with my saving. Im very clean my credit value.

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QUOTE(LeonTan @ Dec 5 2018, 06:07 PM)
agree!

still dont understand some still dont want pay PTPTN for more than 10 years bangwall.gif

RM2k only pay RM50, surely affordable if doesnt go mamak or yum cha every night  sweat.gif
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Another idiot missing the point. The rant here is about compulsory 15% deduction regardless if have follow your schedule payment or not. You have been paying 500 for maybe 5 years, but now suddenly monthly payment increase to RM1.3k per month. ALL borrowers affected no matter u good paymaster or not
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Yang jadi mangsa adalah people who bayar consistently setiap bulan, bayar ikut agreement then lepas inj kena tambah based on salary range. Sebab orang bodo tak nak bayar orang yang bayar kena jadi mangsa.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 06:07 PM)
Another idiot missing the point. The rant here is about compulsory 15% deduction regardless if have follow your schedule payment or not. You have been paying 500 for maybe 5 years, but now suddenly monthly payment increase to RM1.3k per month. ALL borrowers affected no matter u good paymaster or not
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ya, you so clever sweat.gif

if Rm1.3k then Rm1.3k lo, owe money then pay lo
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now i have to pay about 400 instead of 200++

so im paying 2 months each payment.

FUK
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bayar tetap bayar

i just syukur rakyat paid mine
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What about me?
I am working by myself and no slip gaji or all of that.
But I do still pay RM130 direct debit monthly.
Ald 1 year paid ald.
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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Dec 5 2018, 06:07 PM)
Not much 16k, but within that period i really eat alot of dirt.
One of the guy i knew same college with me he got the ptptn, he direct buy new ipong pc.

Well i glad when they launch the discount rate. I paid one off with my saving. Im very clean my credit value.
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good for you brah thumbsup.gif

now that guy's turn eat dirt laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fazlythewarrior @ Dec 5 2018, 06:08 PM)
Yang jadi mangsa adalah people who bayar consistently setiap bulan, bayar ikut agreement then lepas inj kena tambah based on salary range. Sebab orang bodo tak nak bayar orang yang bayar kena jadi mangsa.
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Why think as mangsa, the government help you to finish paying your loan in shorter time.
Which means you pay less interest... cool2.gif
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 5 2018, 06:10 PM)
RIP

now i have to pay about 400 instead of 200++

so im paying 2 months each payment.

FUK
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I suggest you organise protest. PH gomen get protest a bit will u-turn one.
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QUOTE(LeonTan @ Dec 5 2018, 06:09 PM)
ya, you so clever  sweat.gif

if Rm1.3k then Rm1.3k lo, owe money then pay lo
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There is structured payment for 108 months agreed with duty stamp. and suddenly can change? most rate for ptptn is between 150-300. so can anyhow increase 5 times the monthly payment?
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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Dec 5 2018, 05:35 PM)
good la... settle debt first instead of buy godcar
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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Dec 5 2018, 06:11 PM)
good for you brah  :thumbsup:

now that guy's turn eat dirt  laugh.gif
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As i know he didnt finish college and change course. His ptptn voided. I dont know the the ptptn deal with him.

I dont own car, i just took grab lol.
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 06:11 PM)
Why think as mangsa, the government help you to finish paying your loan in shorter time.
Which means you pay less interest...  cool2.gif
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yup, I am thinking of this too

if Rm400, means gaji is RM5k sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:12 PM)
I suggest you organise protest. PH gomen get protest a bit will u-turn one.
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this is really not fair for those who have been paying promptly since day 1

PH should just fuckover those that never paid at all or those with XXX amount of red flag tunggakan

those with 0 tunggakan should be allowed to continue paying AS PER the contract.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:51 PM)
Kena also. I called their careline, apply to ALL. Including autodebit and those already do salary deduction
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NO WAY man.

I already SIGNED the agreement prior to do restructuring to Ujrah.
no way PTPTN going to do this.

F la!

i've been paying autodebit since 2016 wei.

KNNMCB! vmad.gif ranting.gif
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 06:11 PM)
Why think as mangsa, the government help you to finish paying your loan in shorter time.
Which means you pay less interest...  cool2.gif
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They should force this to those yang tak pernah bayar langsung not for people who consistently paid every month.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 06:06 PM)
Another person missing the point. The rant here is about compulsory 15% deduction regardless if have follow your schedule payment or not. You have been paying 500 for maybe 5 years, but now suddenly monthly payment increase to RM1.3k per month. ALL borrowers affected no matter u  good paymaster or not
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500x12x5=30k already paid

how much does the student loan? so much?

its the same, u fast2 pay big amount the loan won't drag so long, hence faster finish.
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 5 2018, 06:14 PM)
this is really not fair for those who have been paying promptly since day 1

PH should just fuckover those that never paid at all or those with XXX amount of red flag tunggakan

those with 0 tunggakan should be allowed to continue paying AS PER the contract.
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Protest jer. I agree people that DID adhere to all the schemes offered should be exempted.

Only those that nak protest x nk bayar before should be the ones subjected to this.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 5 2018, 05:54 PM)
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Compulsory higher payment.

Cukur Rakyat got good gomen help manage finance.


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QUOTE(imshot @ Dec 5 2018, 05:48 PM)
How about those went overseas work and nvr pay back???
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so far, never seen any lawyer comment on this matter.

can the government really just take the money out of the people's pocket just like that ? poof ?
even though the people are in debt with PTPTN but does that give gov the power to just take the money ?
how does all the paperwork work with the companies ? how do the companies verify the PTPTN claims ?

if this kind of money taking is applicable to PTPTN borrowers.
then it can be applicable to anything owed to the government, from business loans to housing loans issued by the government.
there should be no bias here, since these other borrowers also owe the government money.
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QUOTE(LeonTan @ Dec 5 2018, 06:09 PM)
ya, you so clever  sweat.gif

if Rm1.3k then Rm1.3k lo, owe money then pay lo
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U totally missed the point here..we people that pay as per schedule have our own money management.its not about pay or not now..

Example: u already out a commitment for yr house 2k per month,,suddenly bank ask you to pay 4k per month..even the tenure is shorter,someone will affected badly..

Understand the intention but no i dun support this.
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:19 PM)
so far, never seen any lawyer comment on this matter.

can the government really just take the money out of the people's pocket just like that ? poof ?
even though the people are in debt with PTPTN but does that give gov the power to just take the money ?
how does all the paperwork work with the companies ? how do the companies verify the PTPTN claims ?

if this kind of money taking is applicable to PTPTN borrowers.
then it can be applicable to anything owed to the government, from business loans to housing loans issued by the government.
there should be no bias here, since these other borrowers also owe the government money.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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forcefully?
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:22 PM)
Yes they can.
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they can just cancel all the previous legal agreements ?
there is no clause against this in legal terms ?
would u explain legally how this all works ?

if they can do, then what was the point of signing the loan agreement.
might as well say, this year the interest is 200% annually. and make the borrowers become slaves.
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QUOTE(fazlythewarrior @ Dec 5 2018, 06:16 PM)
They should force this to those yang tak pernah bayar langsung not for people who consistently paid every month.
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The answer is simple why this is implement to those who is paying on time as well... you are not paying fast and in larger sum enough proportion to your salary. Even if paying RM1200 per month, it will required to take 3+ year to pay. The rest will take even longer.

If you are a consistent payee.. .then good for you, you will be able to finish paying in shorter time. The reduction in interest paid does not discriminate...
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:22 PM)
Yes they can.
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QUOTE(amroll @ Dec 5 2018, 06:21 PM)
U totally missed the point here..we people that pay as per schedule have our own money management.its not about pay or not now..

Example: u already out a commitment for yr house 2k per month,,suddenly bank ask you to pay 4k per month..even the tenure is shorter,someone will affected badly..

Understand the intention but no i dun support this.
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i agree with you sir.

i've been paying like a good boy since 2016. restructure to ujrah & did Auto debit a year later. rm300/month.
before 2016, i did pay my PTPTN debt monthly but paid rm100-rm150 but CONSISTENTLY every month.
Never FAIL to pay monthly. Must pay due to responsibility to payback whatever i borrowed. At least try to pay with my not so great salary last time.

i don't agree with this new policy regardless to how much income we make yearly.
different people got different commitments.
I believe 3-5% max salary cut is SUFFICIENT in these times of unstable economy.

PTPTN should punish those who NEVER paid a single RM at all or those who pay ON OFF monthly.
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 06:26 PM)
The answer is simple why this is implement to those who is paying on time as well... you are not paying fast and in larger sum enough proportion to your salary. Even if paying RM1200 per month, it will required to take 3+ year to pay. The rest will take even longer.

If you are a consistent payee.. .then good for you, you will be able to finish paying in shorter time. The reduction in interest paid does not discriminate...
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paying faster is bad, if you understand investments.
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:26 PM)
they can just cancel all the previous legal agreements ?
there is no clause against this in legal terms ?
would u explain legally how this all works ?

if they can do, then what was the point of signing the loan agreement.
might as well say, this year the interest is 200% annually. and make the borrowers become slaves.
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Unless they noob (which I won't be surprised) there will be clauses that allow them to adjust the term and conditions that will supersede the old terms.

You signed loan agreement to buy a house, but the monthly repayment also changes if the BLR is raised right?

The borrowers have the option of immediately repaying the debt. If a normal business raise the interest to 200% this year, what you can do is go take a loan from another business at 6% and settle it. So yes, they can do it and they won't, because it will kill their business.

However, PTPTN is not meant to 'generate' income per say, so they can do it.
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if work oversea...salary based on convert or what?
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 06:31 PM)
i agree with you sir.

i've been paying like a good boy since 2016. restructure to ujrah & did Auto debit a year later. rm300/month.
before 2016, i did pay my PTPTN debt monthly but paid rm100-rm150 but CONSISTENTLY every month.
Never FAIL to pay monthly. Must pay due to responsibility to payback whatever i borrowed. At least try to pay with my not so great salary last time.

i don't agree with this new policy regardless to how much income we make yearly.
different people got different commitments.
I believe 3-5% max salary cut is SUFFICIENT in these times of unstable economy.

PTPTN should punish those who NEVER paid a single RM at all or those who pay ON OFF monthly.
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Been paying 218 per month consistently now suddenly need to pay 350+/- not much increase but I feel unfair la.. suddenly increase? Not like I didn't pay...
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if work at SG 2.6k salary.....

convert become rm8k..then need pay 1.2k ptptn per mth???????


crazy liao.....

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:36 PM)
if work at SG 2.6k salary.....

convert become rm8k..then need pay 1.2k ptptn per mth???????
crazy liao.....
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work sg 1 got pay tax 1 meh?

i tot they tax free 1... lol
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:32 PM)
paying faster is bad, if you understand investments.
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True tho, Ptptn has the lowest interest rate for loans in the country. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:37 PM)
work sg 1 got pay tax 1 meh?

i tot they tax free 1... lol
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pay SG govt tax le
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CCRIS record will be clean after this salary deduction scheme?
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:34 PM)
Unless they noob (which I won't be surprised) there will be clauses that allow them to adjust the term and conditions that will supersede the old terms.

You signed loan agreement to buy a house, but the monthly repayment also changes if the BLR is raised right?

The borrowers have the option of immediately repaying the debt. If a normal business raise the interest to 200% this year, what you can do is go take a loan from another business at 6% and settle it. So yes, they can do it and they won't, because it will kill their business.

However, PTPTN is not meant to 'generate' income per say, so they can do it.
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interesting point, BLR rates adjustable are highlighted in the agreement. PTPTN did not.
there are clauses allowing them to adjust somethings, but directly dipping hands into borrower's pocket is something kinda extreme compared to adjust clauses.

if this was possible, why BN did not do it ? they could gotten more money for Big Mama.
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suddenly ayam recall the person i hate never pay single sen...

think of his disposable income suddenly kena cut....
wahahahahahaha....
syok ahhh!!!

pinjam to buy ptptn to buy and flunt his gadget during school time....
PAY BACK NOW!!!!!!
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QUOTE(jmas @ Dec 5 2018, 05:53 PM)
they pandai, last time ask all update salary on PTPTN, for <RM4000 can no need pay.
now got record d
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 5 2018, 06:10 PM)
RIP

now i have to pay about 400 instead of 200++

so im paying 2 months each payment.

FUK
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give them 5 years only judge....takkan hari ini kahwin esok telur
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:38 PM)
pay SG govt tax le
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ya la, which mean msia side no 1 gonna check their income right??

or LHDN still will ask them to do filing?
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QUOTE(H3artBreakKid @ Dec 5 2018, 06:37 PM)
True tho, Ptptn has the lowest interest rate for loans in the country. whistling.gif
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and still some people still take out EPF to repay. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:32 PM)
paying faster is bad, if you understand investments.
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It depends on your context... paying faster is bad for you but good for the country biggrin.gif
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so less than RM2000 no need to pay anything
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:45 PM)
I called PTPTN Careline 2 hours ago, this will apply to ALL borrowers, regardless if you are paying on schedule, already reschedule, or already use EPF to set of certain amount, or have credit balance. ALL previous arrangement will be ceased and deduction based on salary apply.
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sien i pay on time mia ler
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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 06:41 PM)
HOLD ON. SO IF I EARN 20k, RM3000 will go to PTPTN?

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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 06:41 PM)
HOLD ON. SO IF I EARN 20k, RM3000 will go to PTPTN?

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habis, /ktards semua kena laugh.gif

QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:41 PM)
and still some people still take out EPF to repay. brows.gif
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 06:41 PM)
It depends on your context... paying faster is bad for you but good for the country biggrin.gif
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every man for themselves bruh whistling.gif
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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:41 PM)
ya la, which mean msia side no 1 gonna check their income right??

or LHDN still will ask them to do filing?
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i think so?

then convert salary? 2.6k sgd need pay sgd 400 for ptptn.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 06:06 PM)
Another person missing the point. The rant here is about compulsory 15% deduction regardless if have follow your schedule payment or not. You have been paying 500 for maybe 5 years, but now suddenly monthly payment increase to RM1.3k per month. ALL borrowers affected no matter u  good paymaster or not
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Gov is not simply set those payment one. I think they had done some calculation with those numbers.

Take your RM 500 per month for example. 500 x 12 x 15 = 30k
30k your PTPTN has already paid off or almost want to paid off.

Another scenario.
A person income won't go from 2k to 8k in a blink of an eye.
So, when a person earn 8k, and still paying 500 per month. What is that mean? A piece of shit la...
Gov borrow you money for you to study, and you only pay 500 when your income is 8k?

Come on... You owe people money and want to beg you pay back ar? Gov treat those PTPTN loaner so good they don't know how to appreciate.
Borrow 30k from bank and don't pay and see. They direct sue you bankrupt you will never going to be stand up again.


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:44 PM)
i think so?

then convert salary? 2.6k sgd need pay sgd 400 for ptptn.... laugh.gif
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aiya, nvm la...

no ptptn they might not able to secure the job in sg pun.. kekekeke lol.gif
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Tak bayar habis lagi? Padan muka, padan muka, padan muka, Padan muka, padan muka, padan muka.

Aku dah bayar habis lama dah
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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 06:45 PM)
Please tell me this is ridiculous. Because of some irresponsible people, now we all kena. They think we got no other commitment? Until straight demand 15% every month?  rclxub.gif
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8k salary baru 15%...

since /k everyone 20k...

which mean everyone kena laugh.gif
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 06:44 PM)
Gov is not simply set those payment one. I think they had done some calculation with those numbers.

Take your RM 500 per month for example. 500 x 12 x 15  = 30k
30k your PTPTN has already paid off or almost want to paid off.

Another scenario.
A person income won't go from 2k to 8k in a blink of an eye.
So, when a person earn 8k, and still paying 500 per month. What is that mean? A piece of shit la...
Gov borrow you money for you to study, and you only pay 500 when your income is 8k?

Come on... You owe people money and want to beg you pay back ar? Gov treat those PTPTN loaner so good they don't know how to appreciate.
Borrow 30k from bank and don't pay and see. They direct sue you bankrupt you will never going to be stand up again.
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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 06:41 PM)
HOLD ON. SO IF I EARN 20k, RM3000 will go to PTPTN?

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Lol I can tell a lot of daddykasi keyboard warriors in here. Under 1% interest you pay finish faster or less does not matter. The interest amount is fixed and will not change no matter how fast you pay.
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 06:44 PM)
Gov is not simply set those payment one. I think they had done some calculation with those numbers.

Take your RM 500 per month for example. 500 x 12 x 15  = 30k
30k your PTPTN has already paid off or almost want to paid off.

Another scenario.
A person income won't go from 2k to 8k in a blink of an eye.
So, when a person earn 8k, and still paying 500 per month. What is that mean? A piece of shit la...
Gov borrow you money for you to study, and you only pay 500 when your income is 8k?

Come on... You owe people money and want to beg you pay back ar? Gov treat those PTPTN loaner so good they don't know how to appreciate.
Borrow 30k from bank and don't pay and see. They direct sue you bankrupt you will never going to be stand up again.
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Again u missing the point. WHO the hell DID NOT pay? We are ranting the monthly payment increased in short notice and ignoring the previous agreement, plus we pay diligently according to the agreed scheduled.

Those who didn't pay single cent certainly deserve it. No question ask.
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Cant believe many still protek ph govt polict

Makan dedak aje la macai
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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Dec 5 2018, 05:35 PM)
Now I felt Jibby is the best PM for Malaysia.
New Malaysia first tax us SST then petrol increased then need to declared side income now this shit? What next?
Sorry next election confirm vote independent party or not voting.
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Curious

If working overseas then how???


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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Dec 5 2018, 06:54 PM)
Curious

If working overseas then how???
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I con9lan7firm this thing will be suspended.

I potong stray dog gugu if it really implement.
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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 06:50 PM)
Don't piss me off la, I've been paying since I graduated. but what pundek I need to pay 15% now? But on the plus side, I'll probably settle the loan in a couple of payments la, but still. I've already signed agreement previously, so that payment structure is null and void?
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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 06:50 PM)
Don't piss me off la, I've been paying since I graduated. but what pundek I need to pay 15% now? But on the plus side, I'll probably settle the loan in a couple of payments la, but still. I've already signed agreement previously, so that payment structure is null and void?
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Still padan mukak.
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PH will just helm for only 1 term.

Definitely will not make PH helm for another term and the rest of terms after this, IF this policy really enforced on January 2019.

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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 06:51 PM)
Again u missing the point. WHO the hell DID NOT pay? We are ranting the monthly payment increased in short notice and ignoring the previous agreement, plus we pay diligently according to the agreed scheduled.

Those who didn't pay single cent certainly deserve it. No question ask.
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Yala, every one pay. But those who pay kacang when have high income is no different like that one who didn't pay.

In investment point of view, sure la. PTPTN this kind of low % and you can drag so long to pay, it is really a good money for you to use.
Not uni, maybe for investment. I a bit regret last time I didn't borrow it to put in somewhere else.

But now, think of the honey moon is end. Just pay back what it should. No need to rant. Gov done a pretty good job liao.
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:40 PM)
interesting point, BLR rates adjustable are highlighted in the agreement. PTPTN did not.
there are clauses allowing them to adjust somethings, but directly dipping hands into borrower's pocket is something kinda extreme compared to adjust clauses.

if this was possible, why BN did not do it ? they could gotten more money for Big Mama.
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I am not a lawyer and I'm not sure if this is still a valid sample: https://ptptn.manipal.edu.my/files/PERATURA..._PERJANJIAN.pdf

But there seems to be a few clauses in it that allows them the freedom to do it.

This for example:
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6. PERBADANAN adalah berkuasa memaklumkan secara bertulis kepada seseorang majikan yang mengambil PEMINJAM bekerja untuk memotong daripada gaji PEMINJAM apa-apa jumlah wang yang merupakan amaun bayaran balik bulanan yang dikehendaki daripada PEMINJAM bagi tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut dan kemudiannya diremitkan kepada PERBADANAN. Bagi PEMINJAM yang bekerja sendiri, PEMINJAM hendaklah membuat pembayaran balik bagi
tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut terus kepada PERBADANAN atau mana-mana ejen lain yang dilantik mengikut amaun bayaran balik bulanan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut yang telah ditetapkan di dalam Perjanjian Pinjaman Pendidikan / Pinjaman Semula Pendidikan atau di dalam notis bayaran balik yang dihantar kepada PEMINJAM.


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19. Tanpa menjejaskan Fasal 6 Lampiran ini, jika PERBADANAN menyediakan satu skim pembayaran balik berkenaan wang yang kena dibayar oleh PEMINJAM ke atas Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut kepada PERBADANAN selain daripada yang ditetapkan di bawah Fasal 6, PEMINJAM adalah dengan ini memberi persetujuan yang tidak boleh dibatalkan untuk membenarkan PERBADANAN membuat perkiraan dengan sesiapa jua majikan PEMINJAM kemudian nanti supaya pendapatannya dipotong dengan sewajarnya bagi pihak PERBADANAN. PERBADANAN adalah berhak pada bila-bila masa untuk mengubah kadar Upah Pengurusan Pinjaman, cara dan/atau masa bagi pembayaran balik itu dan meminta pembayaran balik dengan serta-merta bagi Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut atau sebanyak mana yang masih belum dibayar menurut budi bicara mutlaknya tanpa memberi apa-apa sebab baginya. PERBADANAN juga berhak pada bila-bila masa untuk meminta mana- mana Agensi Kerajaan Persekutuan atau Negeri termasuk Jabatan Perkhidmatan Awam, Kumpulan Wang Simpanan Pekerja atau Pertubuhan Keselamatan Sosial membayar daripada saguhati persaraan atau caruman PEMINJAM bagi tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut.


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30. Walau apa pun yang tersebut di atas, PERBADANAN berhak pada bila-bila masa menurut budi bicara mutlaknya meminda atau menambah terma-terma atau syarat-syarat yang terkandung di dalam Perjanjian Pinjaman Pendidikan / Pinjaman Semula Pendidikan.


Although, 19 didn't specifically mentioned about the amount.
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I con9lan7firm this thing will be suspended.

I potong stray dog gugu if it really implement.
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The deduction based on gross or net salary?
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Gr at another socialist agenda.

Below 2k no need to pay.
Middle income earners need to cover for the poor again.

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HAHAHAHA gud luck to those PTPTN defaulters, default summore la, some even very lansi say duneed pay back PTPTN de, die also wont pay, now need to pay liao hahahaha laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:34 PM)
Unless they noob (which I won't be surprised) there will be clauses that allow them to adjust the term and conditions that will supersede the old terms.

You signed loan agreement to buy a house, but the monthly repayment also changes if the BLR is raised right?

The borrowers have the option of immediately repaying the debt. If a normal business raise the interest to 200% this year, what you can do is go take a loan from another business at 6% and settle it. So yes, they can do it and they won't, because it will kill their business.

However, PTPTN is not meant to 'generate' income per say, so they can do it.
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Not the same at all. That is in bank agreement. The ptptn contract they cancel it. Create new contract new rule.
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Mana adam adli ????

This is even worst then bn time

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:52 PM)
Cant believe many still protek ph govt polict

Makan dedak aje la macai
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Wel v cud hav had free edu if jibby & kak mah didn't eat so muc money like dat.

Now ph trying so hard to recover money u komplen pulak.
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Dec 5 2018, 07:02 PM)
Wel v cud hav had free edu if jibby & kak mah didn't eat so muc money like dat.

Now ph trying so hard to recover money u komplen pulak.
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Go kacau those defaulter and not those who got pay la
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How bout for those who pay regularly?.. if follow these %, i need to pay more... thise who discipline all these while how???
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same applies to those who borrow your money but fails to pay back.. the anger, the frustration are equally shared.
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So my pay is 8k . I’m a 30 to 45 year old. I have a family of 4.

By that time I have a house and a car but my study loan was 100k for a degree. I have been making repayments of...say 300 myr for the past 10 years. That makes it 36000 so I am left with 64k left at this age

So
A house mortgage should be 2k
Car 1.2k
Ptptn loan is at 1.2k
Epf is at 880
Taxes (pcb) is at 900

That leaves me with...

1820 per month until i settle my loan which will be ....

53 months...which is...4.4 years.

Electricity bill? Water bill? Wife not working? Kids school fees? Savings?

Thank you government for punishing the middle income group again

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QUOTE(pokie182 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:58 PM)
The deduction based on gross or net salary?
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Gross
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dont worry ..this will be another U-turn

since ptptn issue already u turn dunno berapa kali liao

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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:05 PM)
same applies to those who borrow your money but fails to pay back.. the anger, the frustration are equally shared.
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if the person has been paying without delay and sometimes even more than scheduled according to agreement?

How about those?
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Hmm suddenly I have more money to spend since I don't have to pay PTPTN anymore...
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 05:38 PM)
Wahlao, you owe ppl money you need to pay back la. Especially you have 8k monthly income.

You know you will get very sui when owe people money? The longer you drag, the shitter your life will be. better pay back all one shot.
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QUOTE(hovercraft97 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:05 PM)
How bout for those who pay regularly?.. if follow these %, i need to pay more... thise who discipline all these while how???
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ALL kena. Read all the post
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still got option to pay all?
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Dec 5 2018, 07:09 PM)

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Then what is the point of sign contract?

Suka suka boleh tukar
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:10 PM)
Then what is the point of sign contract?

Suka suka boleh tukar
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is there a clause in the contract we suka suka sign say anything about any changes they make still applies? I am asking people who are still paying them.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 07:09 PM)
ALL kena. Read all the post
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This is worst rather than BN time..

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lulz those who rally for free ptptn...PH want to thank you for their vote
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:42 PM)
Gaji 10k, pcb, epf, 15% PT, socso, aes left around 5600  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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U setiap bulan kena AES?
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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 5 2018, 07:15 PM)
is there a clause in the contract we suka suka sign say anything about any changes they make still applies? I am asking people who are still paying them.
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Contract sudah fix amount payment

Not sure can suddenly increase by soo much or not
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:18 PM)
Contract sudah fix amount payment

Not sure can suddenly increase by soo much or not
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The current agreement is based on flat interest (same as hire purchase)
Car loan, suddenly change repayment and ask to pay more.


Never heard car loan will increase payment one.. MCB
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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 5 2018, 07:15 PM)
is there a clause in the contract we suka suka sign say anything about any changes they make still applies? I am asking people who are still paying them.
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Somewhere in this thread some one did provide the clause:

6. PERBADANAN adalah berkuasa memaklumkan secara bertulis kepada seseorang majikan yang mengambil PEMINJAM bekerja untuk memotong daripada gaji PEMINJAM apa-apa jumlah wang yang merupakan amaun bayaran balik bulanan yang dikehendaki daripada PEMINJAM bagi tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut dan kemudiannya diremitkan kepada PERBADANAN. Bagi PEMINJAM yang bekerja sendiri, PEMINJAM hendaklah membuat pembayaran balik bagi
tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut terus kepada PERBADANAN atau mana-mana ejen lain yang dilantik mengikut amaun bayaran balik bulanan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut yang telah ditetapkan di dalam Perjanjian Pinjaman Pendidikan / Pinjaman Semula Pendidikan atau di dalam notis bayaran balik yang dihantar kepada PEMINJAM.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:18 PM)
Contract sudah fix amount payment

Not sure can suddenly increase by soo much or not
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yea. it states that of course with amount of time and at wat percentage. but as with all contracts and agreements, there's always a clause saying whatever changes they make is most of the time, if not all the time, applicable to all borrowers. So, i am asking those who kept that agreement to check if it's there. so how much are you gonna pay with the new scheme? 3 times more than your current rate?
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Dec 5 2018, 06:32 PM)
paying faster is bad, if you understand investments.
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also good for u la, market bad now if u play sure lose 1. better give gov this money first.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 06:55 PM)
COnvert salary

All over 8k
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I think PH should overthink this issue

Should consider paying the minimum amount that a borrower should pay yearly base on his outstanding amount and the number of years left rather this percentage

This suggestion by PH is not viable
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 07:20 PM)
Somewhere in this thread some one did provide the clause:

6. PERBADANAN adalah berkuasa memaklumkan secara bertulis kepada seseorang majikan yang mengambil PEMINJAM bekerja untuk memotong daripada gaji PEMINJAM apa-apa jumlah wang yang merupakan amaun bayaran balik bulanan yang dikehendaki daripada PEMINJAM bagi tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut dan kemudiannya diremitkan kepada PERBADANAN. Bagi PEMINJAM yang bekerja sendiri, PEMINJAM hendaklah membuat pembayaran balik bagi
tujuan pelepasan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut terus kepada PERBADANAN atau mana-mana ejen lain yang dilantik mengikut amaun bayaran balik bulanan Keseluruhan Pinjaman Tersebut yang telah ditetapkan di dalam Perjanjian Pinjaman Pendidikan / Pinjaman Semula Pendidikan atau di dalam notis bayaran balik yang dihantar kepada PEMINJAM.
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thanks. however it only says it has power to ask the employer to cut gaji from employee to pay it back or for the borrower to pay back according to the payback scheme they sent. nothing about they have the power to change the payment schedule as they like.
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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 5 2018, 07:21 PM)
yea. it states that of course with amount of time and at wat percentage. but as with all contracts and agreements, there's always a clause saying whatever changes they make is most of the time, if not all the time, applicable to all borrowers. So, i am asking those who kept that agreement to check if it's there. so how much are you gonna pay with the new scheme? 3 times more than your current rate?
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Now i pay nicely according to contract rm150+

If based on current new rate? Rm1200+
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QUOTE(unthuged @ Dec 5 2018, 07:23 PM)
at least 5 times more because now I fall into the 15% range, out for f'ing nowhere. What bs is this
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ok that definitely sucks.
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QUOTE(cytyler @ Dec 5 2018, 05:43 PM)
wtf ...................... i thought we can choose between 2%-15% . my original monthly payment is only rm90 , now have to pay 150++ surviving in KL very suffering eh
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If allowed to choose, most will pay 2% nia.... This schedule is fairer.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:23 PM)
Now i pay nicely according to contract rm150+

If based on current new rate? Rm1200+
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only good news i can tell you is your loan will finish in less than 4 years. I think avangelice up there did a calculation for his own for 67k or something.
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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Dec 5 2018, 07:22 PM)
Gg.com.my

I think PH should overthink this issue

Should consider paying the minimum amount that a borrower should pay yearly base on his outstanding amount and  the number of years left rather this percentage

This suggestion by PH is not viable
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Why never think b4 announce?
They are govt now. Every decision need to think , bukan main u turn
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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 5 2018, 07:21 PM)
yea. it states that of course with amount of time and at wat percentage. but as with all contracts and agreements, there's always a clause saying whatever changes they make is most of the time, if not all the time, applicable to all borrowers. So, i am asking those who kept that agreement to check if it's there. so how much are you gonna pay with the new scheme? 3 times more than your current rate?
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I paid rm298 per month. Under new structure I will fall under 15% bracket. which is roughly 5 times more
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QUOTE(vincabby @ Dec 5 2018, 07:25 PM)
only good news i can tell you is your loan will finish in less than 4 years. I think avangelice up there did a calculation for his own for 67k or something.
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Damn....let pray hard u turn hahaha
Bukan tak nak bayar...sudah bayar...but sudden increase is painful
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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Dec 5 2018, 06:52 PM)
Now I felt Jibby is the best PM for Malaysia.
New Malaysia first tax us SST then petrol increased then need to declared side income now this shit? What next?
Sorry next election confirm vote independent party or not voting.
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sst gst no diff la u still pay 6%. but wad make u think under jibby time u dont have to declare your side income?
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 07:26 PM)
I paid rm298 per month. Under new structure I will fall under 15% bracket. which is roughly 5 times more
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Same same
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:25 PM)
Why never think b4 announce?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 07:06 PM)
So my pay is 8k . I’m a 30 to 45 year old. I have a family of 4.

By that time I have a house and a car but my study loan was 100k for a degree. I have been making repayments of...say 300 myr for the past 10 years. That makes it 36000 so I am left with 64k left at this age

So
A house mortgage should be 2k
Car 1.2k
Ptptn loan is at 1.2k
Epf is at 880
Taxes (pcb) is at 900

That leaves me with...

1820 per month until i settle my loan which will be ....

53 months...which is...4.4 years.

Electricity bill? Water bill? Wife not working? Kids school fees? Savings?

Thank you government for punishing the middle income group again
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100k loan, who ask u go loan so much at 1st place?

and if you have 100k loan already, why still pay 1.2k per month for car? normal proton/perodua cant?

not to mention 2k house mortgage

have family so early without finished paying somemore,

people these days like to live above what they actually capable of

worked for 10 years epf ac2 should have some substantial amount no? can use that to deduct loan amount.
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Sudden increase in payment is not fair

Should go after those defaulter and not punish existing payer
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:23 PM)
Now i pay nicely according to contract rm150+

If based on current new rate? Rm1200+
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Salary already more than 8k but still paying merely 150? Memang sohai
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:23 PM)
Now i pay nicely according to contract rm150+

If based on current new rate? Rm1200+
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If you're earning more than 8k then you really should be paying more than 150 la.

But 1200+ is a huge jump though.
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9 step plan to increase PTPTN repayments :

1. Reveal high repayment % to scare borrowers
2. Inform deductions will start in January 2019
3. tomorrow errbody rushes to PTPTN/EPF office to process withdrawals to be entitled for 20% discount
4. suddenly defaulters reduced from 60 % to 20% and PTPTN recoups most of its loans
6. fully settled loans also get 20 % discount by 31 December
7. Gomen announces PTPTN recouped enough funds to sustain another 30 years of loans
8. Plan dibatalkan/ditangguhkan/dikaji semula, back to daily life
9. everybody forgets this debacle and everybody wins


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QUOTE(hirano @ Dec 5 2018, 07:30 PM)
Salary already more than 8k but still paying merely 150? Memang sohai
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Sohai mak kau
I follow contract la . Apa salah
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:29 PM)
100k loan, who ask u go loan so much at 1st place?

and if you have 100k loan already, why still pay 1.2k per month for car? normal proton/perodua cant?

not to mention 2k house mortgage

have family so early without finished paying somemore,

people these days like to live above what they actually capable of

worked for 10 years epf ac2 should have some substantial amount no? can use that to deduct loan amount.
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This was just an example. Get off your high horse eh. Some middle income group have taken up expensive degrees and yet inflation has increased. Epf already stated some people do not have savings.

Oh well...the honest middle income group will kena. Those who not Makan gaji and has their own companies can lari from tax and Ptptn.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 5 2018, 07:31 PM)
If you're earning more than 8k then you really should be paying more than 150 la.

But 1200+ is a huge jump though.
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I follow contract agreement payment

I am sure others also

So apa salah ni?
Bukan tak bayar pun...we honor our contract leh
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:32 PM)
Sohai mak kau
I follow contract la . Apa salah
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:32 PM)
Sohai mak kau
I follow contract la . Apa salah
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Cukur i oledi finish pay my rm52k ptptn loan this year.
Meanwhile the one who owe rm20k still play2 don want pay loan.

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What if my ptptn currently already monthly auto deduct how ?
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QUOTE(hirano @ Dec 5 2018, 07:33 PM)
Legally tak salah but sohai. Mentang-mentang la interest just 1%.
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And mana boleh tiba tiba expect ppl pay so much
If contract 150 now suddenly force pay 1200

Like this call fair ka?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:33 PM)
I follow contract agreement payment

I am sure others also

So apa salah ni?
Bukan tak bayar pun...we honor our contract leh
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Don’t need to argue with them. Most people have parents who can afford them to go studies and will provide backup for them financially.

Those we were poor. Took up Ptptn. Made a living will understand the pain.

As for me I can just under report my gaji what. Idiot government.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 07:32 PM)
This was just an example. Get off your high horse eh. Some middle income group have taken up expensive degrees and yet inflation has increased. Epf already stated some people do not have savings.

Oh well...the honest middle income group will kena. Those who not Makan gaji and has their own companies can lari from tax and Ptptn.
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any sane people would know its example when see ur point "30-45 ages"

that is exactly what i said, people like to live high above what they're capable of(mid class but think they're high class income)


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QUOTE(loon90 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:35 PM)
What if my ptptn currently already monthly auto deduct how ?
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Pay more according to new scheme
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:36 PM)
any sane people would know its example when see ur point "30-45 ages"

that is exactly what i said, people like to live high above what they're capable of(mid class but think they're high class income)
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Bro I have some patients who have both sick parents. 8k isn’t a lot when you take into consideration that have 6 mouths to feed.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:37 PM)
Pay more according to new scheme
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Because now monthly already auto deduct from bank? Don’t tell me on top of deduction some more ?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:36 PM)
And mana boleh tiba tiba expect ppl pay so much
If contract 150 now suddenly force pay 1200

Like this call fair ka?
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post Dec 5 2018, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(loon90 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:38 PM)
Because now monthly already auto deduct from bank? Don’t tell me on top of deduction some more ?
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Yes u need to topup to match latest payment rate
That is why i rage and many still defend
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the sudden jump from 10% to 15% is something.

i do agree on the auto payment of ptptn. but not this much.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 07:38 PM)
Bro I have some patients who have both sick parents. 8k isn’t a lot when you take into consideration that have 6 mouths to feed.
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8k salary with 6 mouths and sick parents to feed

i would wish them good luck and stay strong

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 07:31 PM)
9 step plan to increase PTPTN repayments :

1. Reveal high repayment % to scare borrowers
2. Inform deductions will start in January 2019
3. tomorrow errbody rushes to PTPTN/EPF office to process withdrawals to be entitled for 20% discount
4. suddenly defaulters reduced from 60 % to 20% and PTPTN recoups most of its loans
6. fully settled loans also get 20 % discount by 31 December
7. Gomen announces PTPTN recouped enough funds to sustain another 30 years of loans
8. Plan dibatalkan/ditangguhkan/dikaji semula, back to daily life
9. everybody forgets this debacle and everybody wins
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or ppl burn down lge's house
just abolish ptptn loan onli lah easy no loan no nid study
poor ppl bcum begger

edit, stupid ppl trigger

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 07:36 PM)
Don’t need to argue with them. Most people have parents who can afford them to go studies and will provide backup for them financially.

Those we were poor. Took up Ptptn. Made a living will understand the pain.

As for me I can just under report my gaji what. Idiot government.
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I will just declare no income and salary base on comission
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Lol . #VotePH

I voted for them, no doubt, but they didnt really think this shit through.

If anything, they should be using EPF to offset the PTPTN. It is technically, still your savings.

Every month 12% from the employer, 8 - 10% from the employee. They should use the 10% from the employee to offset PTPTN.

Thats called forced repayment, i think a lot of people can live with that . But jesus.

On top of PCB, EPF Contribution, now add in 10 to 15% deduction for ptptn .. luls.

On the flip side,

its not like those people get 8k > overnight. It was progressive. They didnt manage their finances when they were younger and made the payment to ptptn .. gg .

in cantonese is , tai lei sei ?
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:41 PM)
or ppl burn down lge's house
just abolish ptptn onli lah
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Abolish what?

its people like you who caused this much trouble. No free lunch in this world okeh?
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 07:42 PM)
Rilek la. U talk until take ptptn loan is a total trash. And they pay consistently somemore.

U got no loan at all? coz got loan is a trash already.
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what the heck is "u talk until take ptptn is a total trash"?

which word or sentence i mention take ptptn =trash?
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 07:42 PM)
Abolish what?

its people like you who caused this much trouble. No free lunch in this world okeh?
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u trigger 4 wat, abolish ptptn loan poor ppl just stay home bcum begger no nid study
i no say abolish ptptn repayment
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:41 PM)
I will just declare no income and salary base on comission
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bro someone from fb called ptptn.

it's across even OT, comms, and allowances. pttpn will go through your employer
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:45 PM)
u trigger 4 wat, abolish ptptn loan poor ppl just stay home bcum begger no nid study
i no say abolish ptptn repayment
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not sure u trolling or you're just plain stupid? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:39 PM)
Yes u need to topup to match latest payment rate
That is why i rage and many still defend
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No make sense lah! I already repaying in time and is auto deducted every month! That’s in the agreement of how much I need to repay every month! Like this must well I stop paying
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how they derive ppls monthly income? based on payslip? then ask company give bigger portion of allowance and not stated inside payslip lo
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 07:47 PM)
not sure u trolling or you're just plain stupid?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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u stupid onli ptptn
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u stupid onli ptptn
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so you're telling me if no scholarship = stupid?
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my only issue is that they are still giving the B40 another gift again.

fuckers. After budget 2019 which really punished the middle income now they do this.
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 07:47 PM)
ppl pay according to contract. And he cannot enjoy his own life by getting car, son, house? must pay back finish ptptn only can live like a human?
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in what sentence do i mention people can't enjoy house and car?

I'm saying if you have big debt, do you still spend so much on car? 8k gross salary with 4/5 mouth to feed still wanna drive civic?

and when i say "talk till ptptn is trash"? you're not yet answer me
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 07:49 PM)
so you're telling me if no scholarship = stupid?
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 07:51 PM)
Thank you PTPTN and government for helping me out.

I was from a low-income family, parents cant afford my tuition fees for universities.

My grades were not bad, but not good either to get full scholarships or waiver.

So I borrowed around 50k to go tertiary education.

10 years have passed. I am now earning RM12k, managerial role.

Looking back to my struggles, I wanna thank gvt and ptptn for giving me a chance to climb the social ladder and a better future for me and my family.

For that, I gladly oblige to the payment. I gladly settle a small % of my income to a loan, that costs very little (1% interest) yet gave me a fighting chance to climb the social status. I promise to use 15-20% of my income for ptptn although I have some other commitments.

Sekian.
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Earning 12k. good.

Lets say.. hypothetically... you have 4 kids in school, with parents who are elderly and with high medical bills...

hmm.gif hmm.gif


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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:51 PM)
in what sentence do i mention people can't enjoy house and car?

I'm saying if you have big debt, do you still spend so much on car? 8k gross salary with 4/5 mouth to feed still wanna drive civic?

and when i say "talk till ptptn is trash"? you're not yet answer me
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bro did you take ptptn loan for your studies?
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 07:51 PM)
Thank you PTPTN and government for helping me out.

I was from a low-income family, parents cant afford my tuition fees for universities.

My grades were not bad, but not good either to get full scholarships or waiver.

So I borrowed around 50k to go tertiary education.

10 years have passed. I am now earning RM12k, managerial role.

Looking back at my struggles, I wanna thank gvt and ptptn for giving me a chance to climb the social ladder and a better future for me and my family.

For that, I gladly oblige to the payment. I gladly settle a small % of my income to a loan, that costs very little (1% interest) yet gave me a fighting chance to climb the social status. I promised to use 15-20% of my income for ptptn although I have some other commitments.

Sekian.
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Ptptn helped ppl like u many
But only few ppl think ike u

After buy civic ketam, buy 2nd property, now theyre very poor.. Ptptn is oppressing them..
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:36 PM)
And mana boleh tiba tiba expect ppl pay so much
If contract 150 now suddenly force pay 1200

Like this call fair ka?
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This time i agree
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 07:54 PM)
Earning 12k. good.

Lets say.. hypothetically... you have 4 kids in school, with parents who are elderly and with high medical bills...

hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Hypothetically without ptptn he would be earning 2k being office kuli

But ok i understand coz everyone borrowed with the idea that their repaymwnt would be very low

.the criteria to borrow is too lax, hence almost any tom dick and harry can borrow. And the repaymwnt is way too low. Its naturally a money losing thingy, but also bcoz of thw lax criteria, too many ppl cn birrow.

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:52 PM)
u think too much, u stupid onli
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perhaps you are born with silver spoon, privileged and entitled.

i think you are not aware the consequences and gravity of this repayment scheme. why do you think triggered such reaction?
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 5 2018, 06:57 PM)
I am not a lawyer and I'm not sure if this is still a valid sample: https://ptptn.manipal.edu.my/files/PERATURA..._PERJANJIAN.pdf

But there seems to be a few clauses in it that allows them the freedom to do it.

This for example:
Although, 19 didn't specifically mentioned about the amount.
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Fuck man! I just called ptptn starting jan they will cancelled all our auto deduction. Then follow that new rate of the repayment. Where got make sense ! My agreement was supposed to be the amount I’m paying right now, now they want more fuck them! I need to fullfilled other needs
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Guys chill if you all feeling like this means a vast majority of people are getting upset. if you want to make an issue go attack ptptn post
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QUOTE(loon90 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:56 PM)
Fuck man! I just called ptptn starting jan they will cancelled all our auto deduction. Then follow that new rate of the repayment. Where got make sense ! My agreement was supposed to be the amount I’m paying right now, now they want more fuck them! I need to fullfilled other needs
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So does that means we have to SIGN new agreement again?

I for one will definitely NOT going to sign anything from Ptptn after this!
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those who tak ada ptptn loan and got fama to sponsor your education please stfu ya. you have no right to scold any of these poor souls
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:03 PM)
those who tak ada ptptn loan and got fama to sponsor your education please stfu ya. you have no right to scold any of these poor souls
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I had ptptn loan and cleared off last month. Diligently saving money before that. From poor family and no fama money since after finish spm.
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This should implement long ago, I know an @sshole who is making more than RM20k/month just pay a minimum amount when received letter from PTPTN, and he went overseas kena blocked at custom. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 07:56 PM)
U still don't realize u keep shouting at ppl who pay consistently. u targeting wrong group of people.

He borrows all kind of loans, he pays all. What's wrong?

Your logic is i cannot borrow loan to buy house. coz im not living within my means. I only can buy with cash.
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you accused me "shouting", "talk trash" and so on, meaning you're fail to understand what I'm saying.

do i say its wrong to have loan? which sentence i say cannot?

eg:

people with 8k salary, can't have car and house (what you accused of me saying )

vs people with 8k salary, with 100k loan, no savings, 6 mouths to feed, still pay 1.2k for car, 2k for house, and not to mention no epf savings at all. (what I'm saying)

what if you get fired and no job for months? house car kena tarik? wife become beggar?

really facepalm at you

i suggest since you're so butthurt, complain or better "shout" /demo at ptptn to change that, rather than waste time argue with me
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 07:58 PM)
It was not the government nor ptptn's fault for poor family planning. PTPTN has realized its objective in helping me and some other people who worked hard to climb the social ladder.

It doesn't matter how many % you wanna set aside, as long as you settle your debt, or what I would like to call it a deed.
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i signed an agreement with the same government who agreed lets say RM300 per month 10 years ago.

when you have 6-7 mouths to feed and you have 8k salary, every penny counts. Not everyone is entitled and privileged like you.

what does that got to do with family planning? parents fall sick with high medical bills was part of your plan? Lets say you bought a house and took a loan for 2k repayment with the bank and suddenly after 10 years they demand 6k per month... you will oblige and accept the 6k repayment since its your "debt"?

Genius.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Dec 5 2018, 08:05 PM)
I had ptptn loan and cleared off last month. Diligently saving money before that. From poor family and no fama money since after finish spm.
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Reasonable lo ..knn earn 8k drive A class still dun wan pay up ka ..new students need the funds to study oso ...
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 08:01 PM)
So does that means we have to SIGN new agreement again?

I for one will definitely NOT going to sign anything from Ptptn after this!
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So since now repayment increase, then the total amount should drop also right? Coz the repayment period shorter, the admin fee should be lower also.
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 07:56 PM)
perhaps you are born with silver spoon, privileged and entitled.

i think you are not aware the consequences and gravity of this repayment scheme. why do you think triggered such reaction?
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tat y i said u stupid
every loan got contract, even it is floating rate it will not exceed certain amount

but if let say bank loan contract repayment depend on its mood, hrmmm next month u nid 2 pay 60% lah, bcauz i no moneh,
u think wat will happen? tis is the current gov telling 2 the public, come sue 2 gov pls
if the gov can do like tis ady, y not bank?

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Dec 5 2018, 08:07 PM)
Reasonable lo ..knn earn 8k drive A class still dun wan pay up ka ..new students need the funds to study oso ...
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bro most middle income group are 8k for one house hold with only one person earning that. also don't forget Muslims have to pay for their zakat. get your ass out of your face eh? show me which 8k honest 8am to 5pm has a Mercedes.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:08 PM)
tat y i said u stupid
every loan got contract, even it is floating rate it will not exceed certain amount

but if let say bank loan contract repayment depend on its mood, hrmmm next month u nid 2 pay 60% lah, bcauz i no moneh,
u think wat will happen? tis is the current gov telling 2 the public, come sue 2 gov pls
if the gov can do like tis ady, y not bank?
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dude do you get it or not? suddenly from 10years you are forced into a 4 years loan. do you know how much pressure is there. habis savings how?
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bro most middle income group are 8k for one house hold with only one person earning that. also don't forget Muslims have to pay for their zakat. get your ass out of your face eh? show me which 8k honest 8am to 5pm has a Mercedes.
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Mind u christians have to allocate 10% of their celery for church oso + paying income tax to govt
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QUOTE(loon90 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:07 PM)
No need new agreement everyone will be same! Fuck PTPTN and fuck PH! Nothing difference from BN. Lei lou mei
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correct. what an U-turn government with fake promise.
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 05:41 PM)
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Wow. My salary rm2630. My wife fulltime house wife and 3 kids. Im paying ptptn by epf. If got extra money i pay. But if compulsory need to pay i need to cut one week groceries.

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:08 PM)
tat y i said u stupid
every loan got contract, even it is floating rate it will not exceed certain amount

but if let say bank loan contract repayment depend on its mood, hrmmm next month u nid 2 pay 60% lah, bcauz i no moneh,
u think wat will happen? tis is the current gov telling 2 the public, come sue 2 gov pls
if the gov can do like tis ady, y not bank?
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of course bank can do that. but bank wont, becoz people like you dont understand free market economics.

PTPTN is not a money making entity like bank which does not need to conform to free market economics.

Di situlah serlahnya kebodohan mu
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Dah hutang, bayarlah pundek
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:10 PM)
nah. I will stop here too. I won't argue too long in /k.

Just got to stop you from writing butthurt lessons to ptptn borrowers.

If if if becomes beggar. If dying one day why live the life to the fullest now.

You can continue now.
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good, live your life to fullest,

like them said, #yolo

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:36 PM)
And mana boleh tiba tiba expect ppl pay so much
If contract 150 now suddenly force pay 1200

Like this call fair ka?
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I agree that a jump to 1200 is a steep amount. But with 8k, ur brain didn't trigger you to pay more to finish loan faster ke?

When i was earning 2k also i was paying 200/month already dey. Then lumpsump pay after 5 years after i am more capable now
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:12 PM)
Dah hutang, bayarlah pundek
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U sign agreement with bank for house or car loan for 1k

Suddenly bank said no money, next mth u pay 5k

I tell u, dah hutang bayar aje la
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:48 PM)
how they derive ppls monthly income? based on payslip? then ask company give bigger portion of allowance and not stated inside payslip lo
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Only claims based allowances are allowed to be considered outside emoluments....and exempt from EPF.....if you agree to manipulate income such way, you are shooting yourself in your foot....by agreeing to reduce your EPF entitlement....
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:12 PM)
good, live your life to fullest,

like them said, #yolo

wish you all the best *pat at ur back
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you didn't ans my question eh. do you have a ptptn loan or were you funded by fama?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:13 PM)
U sign agreement with bank for house or car loan for 1k

Suddenly bank said no money, next mth u pay 5k

I tell u, dah hutang bayar aje la
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They can do that


You can read your agreement and see it for yourself


And again


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:14 PM)
They can do that
You can read your agreement and see it for yourself
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Bank can do that. but they wont.


Satu lagi pundek yang x faham ekonomi.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:14 PM)
you didn't ans my question eh. do you have a ptptn loan or were you funded by fama?
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There is another situation

He can get scholarship which is abundant out there

Or he can take ptptn loan but convert to scholarshipbecause he get first class honour


And again


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QUOTE(xenith @ Dec 5 2018, 08:10 PM)
correct. what an U-turn government with fake promise.
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Promise is one thing but is it fair to the rest of us ? Mother ass hole! If they wanna do, they should says if those don’t want auto debit then they will set this tier base to those ! Then confirm everyone will go to auto debit! This is no option but a force! Fucker
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:14 PM)
They can do that
You can read your agreement and see it for yourself
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Dah hutang bayarlah pundek
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Actually they cannot do that

In contract will said cannot exceed certain %

Not simply ask for a figure as they like
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:14 PM)
you didn't ans my question eh. do you have a ptptn loan or were you funded by fama?
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what's the point of that?

i see you're diligently attack anyone and anything that stand on ptptn side, like a peacocks bass or a giant snakehead

I'm feel sorry for you, but stay strong bro.


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Looking at the table, they should have another 1 or 2 steps to spread the 10% to 15% jump.....which is a big jump....

Maybe 8k-9.9k 12%
10k-12k 14%
Then above 15%.....
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
Actually they cannot do that

In contract will said cannot exceed certain %

Not simply ask for a figure as they like
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If they assess your credit worthiness periodically and found you to be not stable in term of financial they can restructure your loan and most possibly reduce the payback period
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:08 PM)
So since now repayment increase, then the total amount should drop also right? Coz the repayment period shorter, the admin fee should be lower also.
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
what's the point of that?

i see you're diligently attack anyone and anything that stand on ptptn side, like a peacocks bass or a giant snakehead

I'm feel sorry for you, but stay strong bro.
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I take your rejection to answer my question means you are a privileged person.

suggest you don't pick a fight with anyone here as you never understand what some people are going through.

and I'm not on ptptn side. I'm on the side of the economy. placing this stupid policy will kill the middle income group. Mark my words eh
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:18 PM)
If they assess your credit worthiness periodically and found you to be not stable in term of financial they can restructure your loan and most possibly reduce the payback period
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But now rm1xx sudden jump to 1200

That is not reasonable
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
So what were you doing all these while before you hit RM8k salary? Starbucks and cheonging?
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You are clearly running out of valid arguments as you should hear your own remarks. so much for a 12k manager. pui!

Your success and privilege in your life doesn't entitle you to judge the less fortunate due to your lack of empathy
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
So what were you doing all these while before you hit RM8k salary? Starbucks and cheonging?
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99% of the people are like that.

Im not one to talk, i was raised on Fama bank, but my parents didnt pay shit for my education in Australia.

I worked at coles and had a full scholarship. My parents just supplemented me when i felt that it was a big tight . and even if you consider that, the amount they forked out is probably a hell a lot less than wtv amount ptptn had to pay out to these jokers.

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:20 PM)
But now rm1xx sudden jump to 1200

That is not reasonable
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That is based on income level

Aran more pay more and finish paying faster


What if the problem?
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
So what were you doing all these while before you hit RM8k salary? Starbucks and cheonging?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:20 PM)
But now rm1xx sudden jump to 1200

That is not reasonable
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keep the auto deduct, and enforce this new rule to those hvnt pay/nvr pay===problem solved
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then what's the point of signing the contract of the fixed amount at first? they can change the repayment structure as they like, it's like a bank give you a 30 year house loan and then suddenly ask you pay back in 10 year.

I'm paying it every month consistently and suddenly this shit come and ask for more money wtf?

Especially the payment structure is like retarded:
salary 7999 after deduct u got 7200 pay
salary 8000 after deduct u got 6800

even tax is in multiple bracket level but this repayment definitely is made by someone who failed maths in the ministry

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:21 PM)
again some degrees can cost up to 70k bro.
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Well life is cruel


In usa their study loan average interest is more than 10% per annual


That is proper loan shark


You should be syukur with 2% interest loan you got
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:11 PM)
of course bank can do that. but bank wont, becoz people like you dont understand free market economics.

PTPTN is not a money making entity like bank which does not need to conform to  free market economics.

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lol tat y i said u stupid lah, dare 2 say free market economics sumore
doing so will shock shrink tax generated from those income group since
they spend the most gov earn the most tax from them, free market demand & supply mah
u knw how long it take 2 recover or not? i bet u don't even knw time 2 recover & its fomula is wat

thn u said but bank won't? how r u sure bank won't, if 1 can get away with it
another will follow, whn u no options how 2 get free market? u don't 4get free market always factor in profits


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:23 PM)
Well life is cruel
In usa their study loan average interest is more than 10% per annual
That is proper loan shark
You should be syukur with 2% interest loan you got
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comfirmed you are entitled hence the lack of empathy.

meh. not gonna waste my time arguing with a guy who's parents helped support you.

shrugs.

next!
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QUOTE(afoka @ Dec 5 2018, 05:41 PM)
Those people gaji 8k still tanak bayar ptptn mmg bodo...nak gaji berapa mau start bayar...aku utang 50k ptptpn dah setel after 7 years....guna bonus, epf and diskaun.

Please be fair to others young student still waiting for ptptn loan approval... mak bapak tak bayar hutang ptptpn, till need to make personal loan to pay tuition fees coz no money.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:13 PM)
U sign agreement with bank for house or car loan for 1k

Suddenly bank said no money, next mth u pay 5k

I tell u, dah hutang bayar aje la
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Banks can do what is called a margin call....in a dropping market.....

Your loan must never exceed the market value of your property....if the value drops below what you owe, the bank can and will ask for a lump sum repayment to pare down your loan sum to below market value....
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:20 PM)
I take your rejection to answer my question means you are a privileged person.

suggest you don't pick a fight with anyone here as you never understand what some people are going through.

and I'm not on ptptn side. I'm on the side of the economy. placing this stupid policy will kill  the middle income group. Mark my words eh
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why would i pick a fight with anyone? what would i gain from this?

kill middle income group, lets see. hmph, probably the unwise one.

this is /k/, what's the point i answer your question? i could just bs i earn 20k per month as per /k/ and i finished my loan, bla bla bla

the real question is what would you do? since mostly you're the one who kena.

I'm gladly eat my popcorn and play games later.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:24 PM)
comfirmed you are entitled hence the lack of empathy.

meh. not gonna waste my time arguing with a guy who's parents helped support you.

shrugs.

next!
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I didn't get a cent from parents for degree

Well some one should learn to be responsible with debt

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:10 PM)
dude do you get it or not? suddenly from 10years you are forced into a 4 years loan. do you know how much pressure is there. habis savings how?
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all jump 14th floor lah rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:23 PM)
lol tat y i said u stupid lah, dare 2 say free market economics sumore
doing so will shock shrink tax generated from those income group since
they spend the most gov earn the most tax from them, free market demand & supply mah
u knw how long it take 2 recover or not? i bet u don't even knw time 2 recover & its fomula is wat

thn u said but bank won't? how r u sure bank won't, if 1 can get away with it
another will follow, whn u no options how 2 get free market? u don't 4get free market always factor in profits
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lol dumbass you just contradicted your own point.

they wuld have done it long go if they could, but they just cant.

Thats free market economics for you. you are nothing more than trying to lick PH ass and being a jerk.
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it is fair if deduct salary for those who never pay. but those who pay on time every month, it is not fair. can we bring the old contract to the court as PTPTN violated the contract? we can simply cancel a contract and force people to pay? if like that, what is the use of contract? if suddenly bank business no good, send you a letter telling you old offer letter and contract all void, you have to pay up all your house loan balance else the bank will pull the house, that is ok also?
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My cousin 1 shot pay all, then migrate overseas.
My fren also, pay all one shot 2 yrs after graduation. Then focus on other loans car/house.

It’s a loan. Must pay. Different if it’s a scholarship. No need to repay.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:27 PM)
all jump 14th floor lah  rclxms.gif
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you may find this funny but do know there are many who will find it hard to sleep tonight. I'm talking about the honest middle income group...mind you they have one month to figure out their finance cum January
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this was a total dick move by PH showing that they are just pieces of shit from BN era.

but if earning 8k then just pay up la. 8k is already living comfortably if spending is not lavish and no major commitment like family medical etc.
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QUOTE(ryde @ Dec 5 2018, 08:29 PM)
it is fair if deduct salary for those who never pay. but those who pay on time every month, it is not fair. can we bring the old contract to the court as PTPTN violated the contract? we can simply cancel a contract and force people to pay? if like that, what is the use of contract? if suddenly bank business no good, send you a letter telling you old offer letter and contract all void, you have to pay up all your house loan balance else the bank will pull the house, that is ok also?
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Yes please hire a lawyer and launch class civil action suit...
Pop corn time
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:13 PM)
U sign agreement with bank for house or car loan for 1k

Suddenly bank said no money, next mth u pay 5k

I tell u, dah hutang bayar aje la
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No choice, i did 1 off payment with my savings. So savings is very important.
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bayar je la... sudah enjoy duit lagi mau putar halim bila mau bayar.... pu ki tiam
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Phew another ptptn thread full of salty replies.
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:29 PM)
Econonics experts, let's be clear haha... Banks won't reduce loan tenure from 30 yrs to 10 yr when they see u earn much more money. In fact, they will lend you more.

It's their main income laa.. why reduce loan period? break their own rice bowl?

So, don't compare banks and ptptn like this leh...experts.
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exactly you're another dumbass contradicting your own point.

you just explained the reason why banks dont do it and why PTPTN can.
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KNN MCB .. pinjam duit tak bising .. suruh bayar bising.
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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
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Let me change the analogy

You get a loan from bank in 1990 and monthly installment based on that time blr is 300
Economy crisis in 97/98 and all of sudden u have to pay 1000 but can't afford it due to 6-7 mouths to feed.

Apa susah? 14th floor la. Lel
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should have caught LGE for bribery previously... and regret vote for PH... actually using our money to pay country debt will not give its citizen a better life but only give the ministers a better life. when the debt is paid off, citizen wont get salary increment, prices of things wont go down, the ministers will use the extra money to increase their own salary.
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QUOTE(ahter @ Dec 5 2018, 08:34 PM)
KNN MCB ..  pinjam duit tak bising .. suruh bayar bising.
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bukan tak bayar la sohai, the point is why this ruling applied to all? Why not only on defaulters?

change payment agreement at free will you ok?
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QUOTE(a4techx7 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:35 PM)
Let me change the analogy

You get a loan from bank in 1990 and monthly installment based on that time blr is 300
Economy crisis in 97/98 and all of sudden u have to pay 1000 but can't afford it due to 6-7 mouths to feed.

Apa susah? 14th floor la. Lel
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And there you go. Why PTPTN shouldnt behave like a bank.
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:29 PM)
Econonics experts, let's be clear haha... Banks won't reduce loan tenure from 30 yrs to 10 yr when they see u earn much more money. In fact, they will lend you more.

It's their main income laa.. why reduce loan period? break their own rice bowl?

So, don't compare banks and ptptn like this leh...experts.
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Yes... it cannot be compare... which bank every loan you money for 1% interest.
So don't compare when the government decided to change policy to clip pay back rate to salary.

Some of those I know, enjoying the 1% low interest rate for so long... investing in ASN, FixD or stock and paying merely the minimum with salary >5k... Now when government change policy to increase payment, all F words come out.... These ppl can easily payback just by taking out their investment.... But no, they won't... they want to enjoy interest free loan.... devil.gif
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wah so many kturds with outstanding ptptn rupanya

all the best managing your finances! hope you are already saving 30% of your income consistently so things like this do not hit your wallet like a brick to the head
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Dec 5 2018, 08:37 PM)
wah so many kturds with outstanding ptptn rupanya

all the best managing your finances! hope you are already saving 30% of your income consistently so things like this do not hit your wallet like a brick to the head
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I heard all are 20k income club?
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:35 PM)
They should one shot pay house and car. much higher interest la.

PTPTN only 1%. wise one will pay slowly.

Trust me, real reason many butthurt here. ONE PERCENT.
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With ujrah mine lower than this new rate.

Wth...
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Yes... it cannot be compare... which bank every loan you money for 1% interest.
So don't compare when the government decided to change policy to clip pay back rate to salary.

Some of those I know, enjoying the 1% low interest rate for so long... investing in ASN, FixD or stock and paying merely the minimum with salary >5k... Now when government change policy to increase payment, all F words come out.... These ppl can easily payback just by taking out their investment.... But no, they won't... they want to enjoy interest free loan.... devil.gif
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wait a minute... isnt that the purpose of PTPTN?
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Those who sign agreement for the 1% sure kencing, because government doesn't follow the law of contract. The agreement already stipulated all the repayment schedule and they trying to rescind it.

A lot people laugh at Gamuda padan muka, songlap, but the agreement already there, now those PTPTN borrower going to feel like Gamuda liao. Malaysia baru give a misconception of rescind contract as they like, like this how to convince investor to invest in Malaysia.

IMO the rules is good for those who did not pay single cent, using this force method will work, but please do not punish those who follow PTPTN loan contract repayment.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:39 PM)
Those who sign agreement for the 1% sure kencing, because government doesn't follow the law of contract. The agreement already stipulated all the repayment schedule and they trying to rescind it.

A lot people laugh at Gamuda padan muka, songlap, but the agreement already there, now those PTPTN borrower going to feel like Gamuda liao. Malaysia baru give a misconception of rescind contract as they like, like this how to convince investor to invest in Malaysia.

IMO the rules is good for those who did not pay single cent, using this force method will work, but please do not punish those who follow PTPTN loan contract repayment.
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Yes, thats all.

And why the rush to implement in January?

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so what about those not working at all, no income at all, no need to pay?
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SHUT YOUR BL**DY HELL MOUTH PAKATAN HARAPAN SUPPORTERS.

ALL OF YOU SHOULD D*E.

There are people whom abide by certain contracts ,fulfill their due diligence on time are being forced to cough up for Pakatan Harapan's stupidity of mismanaging Malaysian economy .
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In the offer letter, there is clause which state ptptn can change term of repayment by giving notice


You don't check what you signed on?

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:39 PM)
wait a minute... isnt that the purpose of PTPTN?
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Haha... ya.. that's why all triggered come here complaint...
How many of them really earning 8k and force to pay RM1200, I wonder.... If really have.... this group of people should not have much left to repay , at most 10k, and this group of people cannot pay it all up in 1 lump sump??? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 01:37 PM)
Yes... it cannot be compare... which bank every loan you money for 1% interest.
So don't compare when the government decided to change policy to clip pay back rate to salary.

Some of those I know, enjoying the 1% low interest rate for so long... investing in ASN, FixD or stock and paying merely the minimum with salary >5k... Now when government change policy to increase payment, all F words come out.... These ppl can easily payback just by taking out their investment.... But no, they won't... they want to enjoy interest free loan.... devil.gif
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Now they butthurt.
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:41 PM)
Yes, thats all.

And why the rush to implement in January?

Sekian.
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There is a huge chunk of money stuck at PTPTN, i guess government doesn't want to continue dump money and think whatever policy to speed up the collection.

First one to kencing going to be government servant, for example my sister did lend from PTPTN and opt for auto-salary deduction, imagine others.

Second one private sector, do they have obligation to force repay? or using method to force private sector to pay like LHDN? i don't know, sure create a lot havoc later on.

So the ultimate plan they have is, force u to take EPF money and repay in large chunk to avoid all those trouble.
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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Dec 5 2018, 08:43 PM)
so what about those not working at all, no income at all, no need to pay?
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technically yea, if no income is declared

this "garnishing order" will most likely apply to salarymen - gomen would most probably instruct the employers to auto deduct the salary at the HR/company level before PTPTN borrowers sees what's left in their salary back account lulz
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 08:45 PM)
Haha... ya.. that's why all triggered come here complaint...
How many of them really earning 8k and force to pay RM1200, I wonder.... If really have.... this group of people should not have much left to repay , at most 10k, and this group of people cannot pay it all up in 1 lump sump???  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:28 PM)
lol dumbass you just contradicted your own point.

they wuld have done it long go if they could, but they just cant.

Thats free market economics for you. you are nothing more than trying to lick PH ass and being a jerk.
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they can't bcauz it isn't free economy bcauz bank negara say any form of loan cannot do tat
but since gov violated tat brows.gif

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:36 PM)
bukan tak bayar la sohai, the point is why this ruling applied to all? Why not only on defaulters?

change payment agreement at free will you ok?
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lu hutang lu bayar la sorchye .. btw i dont owe ptptn any moneh yeah
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 08:30 PM)
you may find this funny but do know there are many who will find it hard to sleep tonight. I'm talking about the honest middle income group...mind you they have one month to figure out their finance cum January
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oke just talked to the careline, it seems for those not working/no income but still using auto debit ujrah contract(in this case my wife who is not working and payment by me) the auto debit will not be cancelled. but for me(working) the old structure will be cancelled and new structure will be put out come January
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 01:41 PM)
That's y i said. 1% is the real culprit here especially those who forgot to borrow.

But you see, we are paying back consistently, but kena the most here. All you guys say : u hutang u bayar! Are we not paying every month?!
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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Dec 5 2018, 08:52 PM)
oke just talked to the careline, it seems for those not working/no income but still using auto debit ujrah contract(in this case my wife who is not working and payment by me) the auto debit will not be cancelled. but for me(working) the old structure will be cancelled and new structure will be put out come January
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dafak? auto debit only for ppl not working?
FCK!!!!
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:50 PM)
they can't bcauz it isn't free economy bcauz bank negara say any form of loan cannot do tat
but since gov violated tat  brows.gif

lul stupid keyboard warrior
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Ya lor why violate? Isnt that what we complaining?

Why violate agreement?

Free economy or not...If bank cannot do that why gov can? isnt that what all this fuss is about?




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PTPTN is a loan. Like any loan, should pay ASAP, can have a peace of mind.
RM8k salary can clear in no time.
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 01:55 PM)
Ya lor why violate? Isnt that what we complaining?

Why violate agreement?

Free economy or not...If bank cannot do that why gov can? isnt that what all this fuss is about?
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Bayar je lah

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:44 PM)
In the offer letter, there is clause which state ptptn can change term of repayment by giving notice
You don't check what you signed on?
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Dont expect 18 year old to check what is the agreement. Most just follow the herd and sign.
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Dec 5 2018, 08:57 PM)
PTPTN is a loan. Like any loan, should pay ASAP, can have a peace of mind.
RM8k salary can clear in no time.
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My brother clear his loan within 3 years and he earn less than 4k
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QUOTE(mois @ Dec 5 2018, 09:00 PM)
Dont expect 18 year old to check what is the agreement. Most just follow the herd and sign.
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18 years old then guardian need to counter sign

All main sign ja
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:00 PM)
My brother clear his loan within 3 years and he earn less than 4k
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:55 PM)
Ya lor why violate? Isnt that what we complaining?

Why violate agreement?

Free economy or not...If bank cannot do that why gov can? isnt that what all this fuss is about?
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lol act dono? u think gov can runaway with tat?
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it is just a example for stupid juvaan who knw nothing
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For me no issue, eligible 20% discount somemore, better get done with it. How about those who comply payment as agreed for years and years and heavily battered with essential commitments (sickly parents/children)

Sadly the gov failed to see all aspects. Obedient and disciplined M40 once again bears the brunt of selfish borrowers.

And you my friend, as i assumed, are probably truly privileged and selfish jerk/prick with no empathy or thoughtfulness for the general mass. From the way you speak, you have truly never been through hardship havent you?

Wait till you are desperate for that last 100 bucks in your account and LHDN puts their hands in your account takes it away, JUST BECOZ THEY CAN tongue.gif .

Rest my case. Cheers.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 08:57 PM)
Bayar je lah

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once again, bukan tak bayar, but stick to agreement je la?

Many honest borrowers who pay on time according to agreement with the same PTPTN.

Why punish those who comply? why not just impose this on defaulters?

I rest my case. Goodnight flex.gif
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lol act dono? u think gov can runaway with tat?
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Eh didnt you know? i guess you didnt thats why all this fuss.

All previous agreements cancelled adn stick to this deduction plan biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

New agreements with new deduction plan from January.
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QUOTE(afoka @ Dec 5 2018, 05:41 PM)
Those people gaji 8k still tanak bayar ptptn mmg bodo...nak gaji berapa mau start bayar...aku utang 50k ptptpn dah setel after 7 years....guna bonus, epf and diskaun.

Please be fair to others young student still waiting for ptptn loan approval... mak bapak tak bayar hutang ptptpn, till need to make personal loan to pay tuition fees coz no money.
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fuhh..almost 20pages..

pity those who always paid their ptptn without failed.my waifu last time paid all her ptptn using epf.

inb4 k/ all 20k.ptptn payment should be no problem. whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 02:03 PM)
For me no issue, eligible 20% discount somemore, better get done with it. How about those who comply payment as agreed for years and years and heavily battered with essential commitments (sickly parents/children)

Sadly the gov failed to see all aspects. Obedient and disciplined M40 once again bears the brunt of selfish borrowers.

And you my friend, as i assumed, are probably truly privileged and selfish jerk/prick with no empathy or thoughtfulness for the general mass. From the way you speak, you have truly never been through hardship havent you?

Wait till you are desperate for that last 100 bucks in your account and LHDN puts their hands in your account takes it away, JUST BECOZ THEY CAN  tongue.gif  .

Rest my case. Cheers.
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You might assume wrongly.

I grew up in hardship. Farmer dad and housewife mum.

Worked my arse off my whole life. Applied for scholarships on my own, no parents' money at all.

Did that all the way to the top.

Now I sit back and relax. And laugh.
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:10 PM)
nah. I will stop here too. I won't argue too long in /k.

Just got to stop you from writing butthurt lessons to ptptn borrowers.

If if if becomes beggar. If dying one day why live the life to the fullest now.

You can continue now.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 07:38 PM)
Bro I have some patients who have both sick parents. 8k isn’t a lot when you take into consideration that have 6 mouths to feed.
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:05 PM)
you accused me "shouting", "talk trash" and so on, meaning you're fail to understand what I'm saying.

do i say its wrong to have loan? which sentence i say cannot?

eg:

people with 8k salary, can't have car and house (what you accused of me saying )

vs people with 8k salary, with 100k loan, no savings, 6 mouths to feed, still pay 1.2k for car, 2k for house, and not to mention no epf savings at all. (what I'm saying)

what if you get fired and no job for months? house car kena tarik? wife become beggar?

really facepalm at you

i suggest since you're so butthurt, complain or better "shout" /demo at ptptn to change that, rather than waste time argue with me
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:20 PM)
You are clearly running out of valid arguments as you should hear your own remarks. so much for a 12k manager. pui!

Your success and privilege in your life doesn't entitle you to judge the less fortunate due to your lack of empathy
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Its very hard to find empathy for people with above 8k salary trying to look poor.

Do you guys think the rest of us earn so much?

There are alot of us here earn less than 8k, and still have to pay bills, pay loans, feed their family. We all have to do that with less salary, some of us earn less than half of you 8k incomes, but you all complaining as if you guys 8k salary is barely can cover everything.

Man. What the actual fuck man.

Don't tell me you earn 8k, but drive old car, live in small apartment, never buy expensive smartphone, never go vacation, never eat expensive food, never go shopping and buy something expensive etc and all your money is used to pay loans, pay bills, feed family etc.

No. Sorry but no sorry. So many of us salary below 8k also can do it. But you 8k salary people struggle?

Why don't you guys give us low income earner some empathy instead.

The only thing that I think is wrong is that government want to do it right away on January which is too little time. That all.

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 02:06 PM)
once again, bukan tak bayar, but stick to agreement je la?

Many honest borrowers who pay on time according to agreement with the same PTPTN.

Why punish those who comply? why not just impose this on defaulters?

I rest my case. Goodnight  flex.gif
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The agreement says they can change the agreement.

Bayar je lah.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:09 PM)
You might assume wrongly.

I grew up in hardship. Farmer dad and housewife mum.

Worked my arse off my whole life. Applied for scholarships on my own, no parents' money at all.

Did that all the way to the top.

Now I sit back and relax. And laugh.
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1.2k is triple of my current repayment amount.
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QUOTE(changejob @ Dec 5 2018, 02:09 PM)
Its very hard to find empathy for people with above 8k salary trying to look poor.

Do you guys think the rest of us earn so much?

There are alot of us here earn less than 8k, and still have to pay bills, pay loans, feed their family. We all have to do that with less salary, some of us earn less than half of you 8k incomes, but you all complaining as if you guys 8k salary is barely can cover everything.

Man. What the actual fuck man.

Don't tell me you earn 8k, but drive old car, live in small apartment, never buy expensive smartphone, never go vacation, never eat expensive food, never go shopping and buy something expensive etc and all your money is used to pay loans, pay bills, feed family etc.

No. Sorry but no sorry. So many of us salary below 8k also can do it. But you 8k salary people struggle?

Why don't you guys give us low income earner some empathy instead.

The only thing that I think is wrong is that government want to do it right away on January which is too little time. That all.
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 09:03 PM)
For me no issue, eligible 20% discount somemore, better get done with it. How about those who comply payment as agreed for years and years and heavily battered with essential commitments (sickly parents/children)

Sadly the gov failed to see all aspects. Obedient and disciplined M40 once again bears the brunt of selfish borrowers.

And you my friend, as i assumed, are probably truly privileged and selfish jerk/prick with no empathy or thoughtfulness for the general mass. From the way you speak, you have truly never been through hardship havent you?

Wait till you are desperate for that last 100 bucks in your account and LHDN puts their hands in your account takes it away, JUST BECOZ THEY CAN  tongue.gif  .

Rest my case. Cheers.
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hrmmm u trigger again? tat y u stupid loh, sarcasm also dono.
thn ding dong till so long said the same

not i selfish no empathy, just tat u easily butt hurt onli
it is more like u never been through hardship so easy trigger
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:56 PM)
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How bout those apply 1% repayment and those already using salary to pay.
Talking about free education, so it will never appear.
Better provide interest free repayment by nett out borrow.
Do they ever consider the high cost living in city?
2k, tell me what to eat my friend. Govt should start control the tertiary feed and quality.
Disappointed.....
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:12 PM)
1.2k is triple of my current repayment amount.
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In the offer letter they only clearly state with bold fonts that they can change repayment term by given written notice
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 02:11 PM)
Ayam too

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I agree. We worked hard before.

Sleepless nights of studying.

Holding down 3 jobs during year-break so I can support my brothers and sisters.

Now time to reap.

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For me no issue, eligible 20% discount somemore, better get done with it. How about those who comply payment as agreed for years and years and heavily battered with essential commitments (sickly parents/children)

Sadly the gov failed to see all aspects. Obedient and disciplined M40 once again bears the brunt of selfish borrowers.

And you my friend, as i assumed, are probably truly privileged and selfish jerk/prick with no empathy or thoughtfulness for the general mass. From the way you speak, you have truly never been through hardship havent you?

Wait till you are desperate for that last 100 bucks in your account and LHDN puts their hands in your account takes it away, JUST BECOZ THEY CAN  tongue.gif  .

Rest my case. Cheers.
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QUOTE(smwah @ Dec 5 2018, 09:15 PM)
How bout those apply 1% repayment and those already using salary to pay.
Talking about free education, so it will never appear.
Better provide interest free repayment by nett out borrow.
Do they ever consider the high cost living in city?
2k, tell me what to eat my friend. Govt should start control the tertiary feed and quality.
Disappointed.....
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2k you need only pay 40 per month lol
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:56 PM)
Here

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if you read carefully, it said "Cara Bayaran Balik" , pay back method subject to change according to PTPTN but it does not say PTPTN berhak mengubah ansuran bulanan dengan memberi notis ... ". in the contract, initial cara bayaran is from the salary deduction from employer and PTPTN can change this method. they can change how you pay back to any method but the amount remains the same as in the contract. if they can simply change the amount, this clause should be written under Ansuran Bulanan, not Cara Bayaran Balik.
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Dec 5 2018, 05:38 PM)
Wahlao, you owe ppl money you need to pay back la. Especially you have 8k monthly income.

You know you will get very sui when owe people money? The longer you drag, the shitter your life will be. better pay back all one shot.
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owe "people"

PTPTN not people biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:09 PM)
You might assume wrongly.

I grew up in hardship. Farmer dad and housewife mum.

Worked my arse off my whole life. Applied for scholarships on my own, no parents' money at all.

Did that all the way to the top.

Now I sit back and relax. And laugh.
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Top as in?
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:09 PM)
You might assume wrongly.

I grew up in hardship. Farmer dad and housewife mum.

Worked my arse off my whole life. Applied for scholarships on my own, no parents' money at all.

Did that all the way to the top.

Now I sit back and relax. And laugh.
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Kudos to you. thumbup.gif

you are the creme de la creme.

Unfortunately not everyone has the same privilege & opportunity to even study/work their ass off.

I know some people who splurge their PTPTN money.

I also know some people, when they receive their PTPTN sends back a substantial amount to support their family at home. Work part time with classes to attend. With such weight on their shoulders its almost impoosible to attain scholarship winning results in uni. All done and dusted upon graduation they need to continue supporting their family with their meager starting salaries and with every increment it lessens the burden of the family on them.
After years they have worked themselves up to comfortable positions.

PTPTN helps people in those categories.

And now suddenly, PTPTN says, screw you and your family, pay me first.

Thats what we complaining about.
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QUOTE(ryde @ Dec 5 2018, 09:16 PM)
if you read carefully, it said  "Cara Bayaran Balik" , pay back method subject to change according to PTPTN but it does not say PTPTN berhak mengubah ansuran bulanan dengan memberi notis ... ". in the contract, initial cara bayaran is from the salary deduction from employer and PTPTN can change this method. they can change how you pay back to any method but the amount remains the same as in the contract. if they can simply change the amount, this clause should be written under Ansuran Bulanan, not Cara Bayaran Balik.
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Then you need a lawyer to sue gov


I suggest you get a really good one


Like late karpal Singh level
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Top as in?
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QUOTE(smwah @ Dec 5 2018, 09:15 PM)
How bout those apply 1% repayment and those already using salary to pay.
Talking about free education, so it will never appear.
Better provide interest free repayment by nett out borrow.
Do they ever consider the high cost living in city?
2k, tell me what to eat my friend. Govt should start control the tertiary feed and quality.
Disappointed.....
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gov now is kaki uturn bah

promise this can get many eligible youngsters' votes.
sudah get, apa lagi, kasi kencing sama lu la

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i am already paying 350 a month.

can apply up to that amount or mati mati ikut criteria?
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Then you need a lawyer to sue gov
I suggest you get a really good one
Like late karpal Singh level
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Shafee, Bijan lawyer can?
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QUOTE(ryde @ Dec 5 2018, 02:16 PM)
if you read carefully, it said  "Cara Bayaran Balik" , pay back method subject to change according to PTPTN but it does not say PTPTN berhak mengubah ansuran bulanan dengan memberi notis ... ". in the contract, initial cara bayaran is from the salary deduction from employer and PTPTN can change this method. they can change how you pay back to any method but the amount remains the same as in the contract. if they can simply change the amount, this clause should be written under Ansuran Bulanan, not Cara Bayaran Balik.
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Haih.

Bayar je lah.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:19 PM)
Shafee, Bijan lawyer can?
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But nownpeasant level only
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Education-wise, until PhD.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:19 PM)
Haih.

Bayar je lah.
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i never owe ptptn and i pay on time every time until now. suddenly i have to pay 8% of my salary, that is a shock.
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 02:17 PM)
Kudos to you. thumbup.gif

you are the creme de la creme.

Unfortunately not everyone has the same privilege & opportunity to even study/work their ass off.

I know some people who splurge their PTPTN money.

I also know some people, when they receive their PTPTN sends back a substantial amount to support their family at home. Work part time with classes to attend. With such weight on their shoulders its almost impoosible to attain scholarship winning results in uni. All done and dusted upon graduation they need to continue supporting their family with their meager starting salaries and with every increment it lessens the burden of the family on them.
After years they have worked themselves up to comfortable positions.

PTPTN helps people in those categories.

And now suddenly, PTPTN says, screw you and your family, pay me first.

Thats what we complaining about.
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If you use your PTPTN to help your family, it means that you've already menyalahgunakan wang PTPTN.

You want to send money to your family? Sure, go do that.

By getting a job or 2.
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junsheng u family kaya, brada pay all. Use BMW + all other luxury stuff. Why la inside this ptptn thread.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:22 PM)
If you use your PTPTN to help your family, it means that you've already menyalahgunakan wang PTPTN.

You want to send money to your family? Sure, go do that.

By getting a job or 2.
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Then you dont know what is true hardship. when i know i have excess cash from PTPTN after study expenses i wont sit around and see family suffer.

For a PhD you lack empathy.

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QUOTE(ryde @ Dec 5 2018, 02:22 PM)
i never owe ptptn and i pay on time every time until now. suddenly i have to pay 8% of my salary, that is a shock.
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If you still owe money to PTPTN, it means that you still owe money to PTPTN.

And you don't have to pay 8% to PTPTN forever. Makin banyak bayar makin cepat habis.
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Im lucky enough to never need to even know what’s “ptptn”

But boy look at the replies here, getting all riled up because you have to pay back what YOU have spent?

Wow, just wow, how about when ptptn pay you years ago that time delay the payment? Take money pandai, but never understand how this batch of money is circulating.
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Im lucky enough to never need to even know what’s “ptptn”

But boy look at the replies here, getting all riled up because you have to pay back what YOU have spent?

Wow, just wow, how about when ptptn pay you years ago that time delay the payment? Take money pandai, but never understand how this batch of money is circulating.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:22 PM)
If you use your PTPTN to help your family, it means that you've already menyalahgunakan wang PTPTN.

You want to send money to your family? Sure, go do that.

By getting a job or 2.
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agreed, that's abuse/misappropriation of funds.

but what to do, sometimes desperate people takes desperate measures.

I don't blame them nor do I pity them, but when it's time to pay up, then please pay up
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QUOTE(hirano @ Dec 5 2018, 09:24 PM)
junsheng u family kaya, brada pay all. Use BMW + all other luxury stuff. Why la inside this ptptn thread.
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bcauz i use ptptn loan 2 buy bmw, want sit in my bmw?

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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 02:24 PM)
Then you dont know what is true hardship.

For a PhD you lack empathy.
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Yeah, I dunno what is true hardship.

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Growing up with only RMT for breakfast, 50 sen for both sekolah pagi and petang and no dinner is not hardship enough.

Sure there are more miskin people than me.
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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Dec 5 2018, 09:25 PM)
Im lucky enough to never need to even know what’s “ptptn”

But boy look at the replies here, getting all riled up because you have to pay back what YOU have spent?

Wow, just wow, how about when ptptn pay you years ago that time delay the payment? Take money pandai, but never understand how this batch of money is circulating.
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How about changing terms in an agreement years ago?

Today you agree with bank to pay 2k a month and suddenly bank demands 6k a month?

You would not be "riled up" and just conform, because after all you are paying back what you spent. You were lucky but not smart enough.
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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Dec 5 2018, 09:25 PM)
Im lucky enough to never need to even know what’s “ptptn”

But boy look at the replies here, getting all riled up because you have to pay back what YOU have spent?

Wow, just wow, how about when ptptn pay you years ago that time delay the payment? Take money pandai, but never understand how this batch of money is circulating.
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:28 PM)
Yeah, I dunno what is true hardship.

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Growing up with only RMT for breakfast, 50 sen for both sekolah pagi and petang and no dinner is not hardship enough.

Sure there are more miskin people than me.
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Trust me, you are right. there are people far worse than you.

Imagine this, a so called PTPTN borrower working part time, to support studies and family, cycles few kM to nearest tesco at night at 930pm to buy cheap stock clearance bread and consumes that for the next week. Simply becoz of "true hardship". Scored average results, got a job, worked his ass off and comfortable today.

Sadly, its a true story. Fortunately for him, he turned his life around.

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 09:28 PM)
bcauz i use ptptn loan 2 buy bmw, want sit in my bmw?

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Alot of ppl actually say just take ptptn, no harm.. Even if can fund own studies. Why?

Take that money, pay downpayment for car or house also better than taking housing loan or car loan. Coz the interest wont be so low.

So alot of ppl abuse the ptptn money..
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QUOTE(-CoupeFanatic- @ Dec 5 2018, 02:27 PM)
agreed, that's abuse/misappropriation of funds.

but what to do, sometimes desperate people takes desperate measures.

I don't blame them nor do I pity them, but when it's time to pay up, then please pay up
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My desperate measure was working as a janitor during semester time and research assistant during semester break.

And taught tuition classes all year long.

My mum said "Kalau miskin buat cara miskin, pergi kerja"
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 09:32 PM)
Trust me, you are right. there are people far worse than you.

Imagine this, a so called PTPTN borrower working part time, to support studies and family, cycles few kM to nearest tesco at night at 930pm to buy cheap stock clearance bread and consumes that for the next week. Simply becoz of "true hardship"

Sadly, its a true story.
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How poor you are, when you owe money, you need to pay back.


For 2k salary you pay only 40

That is reasonable
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damn bodo.

im paying more than my required amount, now i only pay 90?

BODO
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QUOTE(juvaan @ Dec 5 2018, 02:32 PM)
Trust me, you are right. there are people far worse than you.

Imagine this, a so called PTPTN borrower working part time, to support studies and family, cycles few kM to nearest tesco at night at 930pm to buy cheap stock clearance bread and consumes that for the next week. Simply becoz of "true hardship". Scored average results, got a job, worked his ass off and comfortable today.

Sadly, its a true story. Fortunately for him, he turned his life around.
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Only one advice to this guy: Work and study harder.
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QUOTE(ChaNzy @ Dec 5 2018, 09:34 PM)
damn bodo.

im paying more than my required amount, now i only pay 90?

BODO
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:33 PM)
How poor you are, when you owe money, you need to pay back.
For 2k salary you pay only 40

That is reasonable
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Yes thats reasonable, no doubt and qualms about that.

Paying according to schedule as agreed is ok.

Changing the schedule as they like is not ok.

Punish the defaulters, not the ones who have been diligently paying over the years.


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QUOTE(opportunity88 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:35 PM)
RM8k.

After tax &EPF = RM6.5k
Honda city = RM 900
House = RM 2000
Makan = RM 1500
Feed baby & baby stuff = RM 1500
Baki = RM600

Pay PTPTN RM1200?
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You buy Honda city and 500k house before clearing study loan?

Every loan is liability and it is prudent to clear them ASAP
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Dec 5 2018, 09:36 PM)
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did they publish saying anything about overpaying?

so far, those who called, only stated about paying according to the rate stated.
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QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Dec 5 2018, 09:32 PM)
Alot of ppl actually say just take ptptn,  no harm.. Even if can fund own studies.  Why?

Take that money,  pay downpayment for car or house also better than taking housing loan or car loan. Coz the interest wont be so low.

So alot of ppl abuse the ptptn money..
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actually auto deduction repayment should be implemented with ptptn
bcauz i think it is a gud incentive 2 help ppl study, n pay back loan
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:37 PM)
You buy Honda city and 500k house before clearing study loan?

Every loan is liability and it is prudent to clear them ASAP
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Fund management and going concern bro. Leverage used to obtain a certain want/need.

Its not the loan which has changed, but more of a cashflow problem for those with maxed out commitments.
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QUOTE(opportunity88 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:35 PM)
RM8k.

After tax &EPF = RM6.5k
Honda city = RM 900
House = RM 2000
Makan = RM 1500
Feed baby & baby stuff = RM 1500
Baki = RM600

Pay PTPTN RM1200?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:39 PM)
Those who sign agreement for the 1% sure kencing, because government doesn't follow the law of contract. The agreement already stipulated all the repayment schedule and they trying to rescind it.

A lot people laugh at Gamuda padan muka, songlap, but the agreement already there, now those PTPTN borrower going to feel like Gamuda liao. Malaysia baru give a misconception of rescind contract as they like, like this how to convince investor to invest in Malaysia.

IMO the rules is good for those who did not pay single cent, using this force method will work, but please do not punish those who follow PTPTN loan contract repayment.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 09:39 PM)
actually auto deduction repayment should be implemented with ptptn
bcauz i think it is a gud incentive 2 help ppl study, n pay back loan
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agree, but dont change the deduction as you wish. all along deduct certain amount, suddenly deduct 5x more on short notice.
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QUOTE(opportunity88 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:40 PM)
Haiyo u think every guy's dream is to sit on their mom's basement and spam /k? People got life la. Want find girl to romen. No rm500k house and city how la?
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That is some really poor financial planning


Good luck with your life
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 09:25 PM)
If you still owe money to PTPTN, it means that you still owe money to PTPTN.

And you don't have to pay 8% to PTPTN forever. Makin banyak bayar makin cepat habis.
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Auto deduct is good idea

But that %? Lol

Sure kill some middle income

Sure lepas ni ada u turn dari ph
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Dec 5 2018, 09:02 PM)
tahinah pengundi semua kena kencing!
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QUOTE(Saitama @ Dec 5 2018, 05:38 PM)
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This is my question as well
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QUOTE(opportunity88 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:35 PM)
RM8k.

After tax &EPF = RM6.5k
Honda city = RM 900
House = RM 2000
Makan = RM 1500
Feed baby & baby stuff = RM 1500
Baki = RM600

Pay PTPTN RM1200?
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ur wifu stay in home make sanmmich?
ask ur baby go out work also, no work no milk

y u no pay ptptn tat time whn u 4everalone tat time, no car no house still living under basement tat time?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:18 PM)
Then you need a lawyer to sue gov
I suggest you get a really good one
Like late karpal Singh level
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the most hancing decision so far...
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:37 PM)
You buy Honda city and 500k house before clearing study loan?

Every loan is liability and it is prudent to clear them ASAP
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I agree every loan needs to be paid.

But i dont agree on how this repayment is calculated. If based on agreement, im ok with that, but they want to force people pay based on they salary?

Imagine u buy house but repayment is based on percentage of ur salary. I dont think that is right. Ur gaji naik, the repayment also go up.

At most they should follow the stated amount in the agreement. Not more than that.

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Rule of law they said

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Should have given some time for people to adjust, increase by stages every 6 months would have been better. If not i foresee more foreclosures coming soon, not sure how is that going to help the cause if some people actually go into bankruptcy because of this.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:47 PM)
Rule of law they said

Kek
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Finally i agree with u on this.

Tun M said rule of law but PH gov just ignore this. Kek
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 5 2018, 09:46 PM)
I agree every loan needs to be paid.

But i dont agree on how this repayment is calculated. If based on agreement, im ok with that, but they want to force people pay based on they salary?

Imagine u buy house but repayment is based on percentage of ur salary. I dont think that is right. Ur gaji naik, the repayment also go up.

At most they should follow the stated amount in the agreement. Not more than that.
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To be frank lah, how many borrower earn 8k and above?


I don't think it even worth discussing
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 09:44 PM)
ur wifu stay in home make sanmmich?
ask ur baby go out work also, no work no milk

y u no pay ptptn tat time whn u 4everalone tat time, no car no house still living under basement tat time?
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Who are you to tell people how to live their life? The problem is out of the blue have to pay 600 to over 1k more. You take loan the bank suddenly change the terms of repayment force you pay 1k more you see you can cope or not? Even you can a lot of people cannot.

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:44 PM)
Tu la suruh undi bn tak nak

Degil undi ph
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Dec 5 2018, 09:49 PM)
Who are you to tell people how to live their life? The problem is out of the blue have to pay 600 to over 1k more. You take loan the bank suddenly change the terms of repayment force you pay 1k more you see you can cope or not? Even you can a lot of people cannot.
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QUOTE(nearlee @ Dec 5 2018, 09:49 PM)
>23 pages topkek
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QUOTE(hirano @ Dec 5 2018, 09:40 PM)
Wife no work?
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Wife work or not what business is it for you to know? Later you take bank loan the bank suddenly ask you pay 1k monthly extra then say to you "Spouse not working? Why cannot pay 1k more?"
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:49 PM)
To be frank lah, how many borrower earn 8k and above?
I don't think it even worth discussing
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Doesn't matter how much they earn. 3k 4k.. whatever. My point is the repayment should not follow the salary. Its not logical. If a person already max his dsr, only left rm2k.. if follow gaji kasar, the amount will eat up into that 2k.

They should calculate based on gaji bersih after minus all commitment if they still wish to go on with it.

Alot of people will go bankrupt like this if they continue with that plan

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hmm i've been sitting and thinking calmly for an hour or so.

i guess PTPTN will make a u-turn statement after this.
right after Atok and his smart ministers thought over this ridiculous policy that could hurt potential voters for PRU15 and the rest. hmm.gif

Chill your manboobs gais.

Let's get a good nite sleep tonite and watch the development over the next few days. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Earning 8k a month, waiting in line to buy Starbucks while surfing the internet for the best vacation destination to visit in 2019 with the latest iPhone. But still complain when asked to payback the study loan he took to finance his studies? FFS wake the fuck up.
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haha ada byk org bising.

if your salary already 8k but still very high in ptptn loan, it means you have not been paying, and you have no intention to pay.

and thus you deserve it
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actually the last time a ptptn thread exploded was the travel ban. lemme resurrect it
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 09:54 PM)
hmm i've been sitting and thinking calmly for an hour or so.

i guess PTPTN will make a u-turn statement after this.
right after Atok and his smart ministers thought over this ridiculous policy that could hurt potential voters for PRU15 and the rest.  hmm.gif

Chill your manboobs gais.

Let's get a good nite sleep tonite and watch the development over the next few days.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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to be fair how are they going to lose when there's no opposition? there's a reason why all these stupid decisions are being made everyday recently, there's no other party to vote for
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 09:54 PM)
hmm i've been sitting and thinking calmly for an hour or so.

i guess PTPTN will make a u-turn statement after this.
right after Atok and his smart ministers thought over this ridiculous policy that could hurt potential voters for PRU15 and the rest.  hmm.gif

Chill your manboobs gais.

Let's get a good nite sleep tonite and watch the development over the next few days.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 5 2018, 09:54 PM)
Doesn't matter how much they earn. 3k 4k.. whatever. My point is the repayment should not follow the salary. Its not logical. If a person already max his dsr, only left rm2k.. if follow gaji kasar, the amount will eat up into that 2k.

They should calculate based on gaji bersih after minus all commitment if they still wish to go on with it.

Alot of people will go bankrupt like this if they continue with that plan
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I guess ptptn don't need to be that desperate if they don't have over 50% of non performing loan


If the scheme is only for defaulter then those asshole will cry unfair lah etc


It is hard to please everyone
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QUOTE(b3ta @ Dec 5 2018, 09:55 PM)
haha ada byk org bising.

if your salary already 8k but still very high in ptptn loan, it means you have not been paying, and you have no intention to pay.

and thus you deserve it
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eh hello please do not simply assume, I only very recently enter this income bracket, before this I was only earning 4k+

I have been paying diligently via auto debit for RM303 for nearly 1 year, from the first month I was required to start paying back, and now they're gonna change my deductions to 1.2k, how is that fair? What the hell do you mean I deserve it?
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2018, 09:57 PM)
actually the last time a ptptn thread exploded was the travel ban. lemme resurrect it
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4156331
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 09:54 PM)
hmm i've been sitting and thinking calmly for an hour or so.

i guess PTPTN will make a u-turn statement after this.
right after Atok and his smart ministers thought over this ridiculous policy that could hurt potential voters for PRU15 and the rest.  hmm.gif

Chill your manboobs gais.

Let's get a good nite sleep tonite and watch the development over the next few days.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ph sudah carve scars in their own image already
with the multiple uturns and uturn on a uturn

pakatan kencing uturn they say

take back after putting this out, what dif do they make compared to previous gov. sukahati issue some regulations, realize this could greatly affect their next pru, uturn balik. act like they become good guy think for the goodness of the people

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Hate this idea
-Break PH promise for RM4k exemption
-Potentially causing default for RM8k salary people with high commitment and no savings
-Deduction rate should be incremental like personal tax instead of flat RM8k x 15%.
-Discourage future student from taking PTPTN loan/getting higher salary due to quick repayment.
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QUOTE(IdiuU @ Dec 5 2018, 09:58 PM)
not this bro. the one government say you cannot travel anymore
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Dec 5 2018, 09:57 PM)
to be fair how are they going to lose when there's no opposition? there's a reason why all these stupid decisions are being made everyday recently, there's no other party to vote for
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malaysians are gullible

if one party does not perform, they will vote back the other party who promise the heavens and the moon

provided there's no "magic" involved in the voting process la.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Dec 5 2018, 09:57 PM)
eh hello please do not simply assume, I only very recently enter this income bracket, before this I was only earning 4k+

I have been paying diligently via auto debit for RM303 for nearly 1 year, from the first month I was required to start paying back, and now they're gonna change my deductions to 1.2k, how is that fair? What the hell do you mean I deserve it?
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ur debt how much

how many year pay back d

left how much
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So many pages man. Conclusion is , pandai pinjam pandai bayar lah.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 09:57 PM)
I guess ptptn don't need to be that desperate if they don't have over 50% of non performing loan
If the scheme is only for defaulter then those asshole will cry unfair lah etc
It is hard to please everyone
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But doing so will create more harm than good. Since this potongan is straight from the salary, many people may find it hard to service their other loans.

If that is to happen, npl for banks will be high. After a year or 2, many will go bankrupt. Not good for economy.

Is this what they want?

I dont think they thought this thru. Its illogical.
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Don't give loads of excuses for not paying your ptptn.. don't expect discounts too...


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Pergi tidurlah.

Esok pergi kerja awal, cari duit bayar PTPTN.

Bayar je lah
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Dec 5 2018, 09:52 PM)
Wife work or not what business is it for you to know? Later you take bank loan the bank suddenly ask you pay 1k monthly extra then say to you "Spouse not working? Why cannot pay 1k more?"
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The guy listed out net pay 6.5k, then all house, car, child expenses under him. But reality is most wimen are working nowadays and sharing the burden of expenses. So his calculation is bullshit.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 09:54 PM)
hmm i've been sitting and thinking calmly for an hour or so.

i guess PTPTN will make a u-turn statement after this.
right after Atok and his smart ministers thought over this ridiculous policy that could hurt potential voters for PRU15 and the rest.  hmm.gif

Chill your manboobs gais.

Let's get a good nite sleep tonite and watch the development over the next few days.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i wait for u turn.. this one not just u turn.. but also turn around as well
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If 20k loan, 1.2k repayment is about 18-20 months only. Why so bising, take the hit and clear off your loan la idiots.
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 5 2018, 10:03 PM)
But doing so will create more harm than good. Since this potongan is straight from the salary, many people may find it hard to service their other loans.

If that is to happen, npl for banks will be high. After a year or 2, many will go bankrupt. Not good for economy.

Is this what they want?

I dont think they thought this thru. Its illogical.
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You know you have an education loan then why get more without settling the first loan??? Do student really understand what is financial management?
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Dec 5 2018, 09:54 PM)
hmm i've been sitting and thinking calmly for an hour or so.

i guess PTPTN will make a u-turn statement after this.
right after Atok and his smart ministers thought over this ridiculous policy that could hurt potential voters for PRU15 and the rest.  hmm.gif

Chill your manboobs gais.

Let's get a good nite sleep tonite and watch the development over the next few days.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yup ph u turn at the best

Tak sia sia vote dorang

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Poor pipus problem.

Rich pipu dilemma.

The poor always wanted the rich to suffer.

Indirectly the poor ends up got burnt.

Another u turn.
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 10:05 PM)
Meanwhile majority PTPTN borrowers only have to pay RM50 monthly. They probably never repay a single cent.  It is indeed unfair.

But hey /k only shout : u hutang u bayar laaa
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Why so bodoh, people got no money to pay how to pay. If you've the money to pay the loan, just pay la.
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Dec 5 2018, 09:57 PM)
eh hello please do not simply assume, I only very recently enter this income bracket, before this I was only earning 4k+

I have been paying diligently via auto debit for RM303 for nearly 1 year, from the first month I was required to start paying back, and now they're gonna change my deductions to 1.2k, how is that fair? What the hell do you mean I deserve it?
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Cukurlah gaji besar boleh afford 1.2k easily


Gaji lompat 3k ,ptptn baru lompat 800 jer pun.



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QUOTE(vanillapire @ Dec 5 2018, 10:05 PM)
You know you have an education loan then why get more without settling the first loan??? Do student really understand what is financial management?
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And are they doing this to punish the defaulters is it?

Sure they made a mistake for not paying the loans, but is it wise to punish up to a point family may be destroyed?

Im all for forcing the defaulters to pay. But this way is not right.
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QUOTE(vanillapire @ Dec 5 2018, 03:05 PM)
You know you have an education loan then why get more without settling the first loan??? Do student really understand what is financial management?
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If they understand financial management, they'd probably excel in their studies as well and don't need to pay PTPTN.

Probably.
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With ph current menteri decison making

Im very worried with our future

Ohwai.......
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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 10:09 PM)
If they understand financial management, they'd probably excel in their studies as well and don't need to pay PTPTN.

Probably.
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Its like saying kalau dia pandai, dia tak akan jadi miskin.

Inbe4 everyone has a miskin father.
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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Dec 5 2018, 10:06 PM)
Poor pipus problem.

Rich pipu dilemma.

The poor always wanted the rich to suffer.

Indirectly the poor ends up got burnt.

Another u turn.
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Poor people always blame the rich for their problems. Serves them right in the face ohwai
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QUOTE(Kyojin @ Dec 5 2018, 10:04 PM)
If 20k loan, 1.2k repayment is about 18-20 months only. Why so bising, take the hit and clear off your loan la idiots.
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bising is because the amount change from the agreement , that is why bising

already sign and agree pay...example rm250 a mth...

suka suka ...mood bad change rm1.2k...
next year mood bad? change rm1.5k....macam ini ka contract??

use ur brain la idiot

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QUOTE(Kyojin @ Dec 5 2018, 10:04 PM)
If 20k loan, 1.2k repayment is about 18-20 months only. Why so bising, take the hit and clear off your loan la idiots.
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i 21k loan work 2 years ,income monthly 2k, took me 2 years to clear

the more complain = more chibai brain. sila meninggal
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 5 2018, 10:08 PM)
And are they doing this to punish the defaulters is it?

Sure they made a mistake for not paying the loans, but is it wise to punish up to a point family may be destroyed?

Im all for forcing the defaulters to pay. But this way is not right.
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It is more about responsibility and prioritisation than punishment on borrowers.

Besides, you used the word defaulter and you should have know the actual meaning of it.
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QUOTE(Kyojin @ Dec 5 2018, 10:04 PM)
If 20k loan, 1.2k repayment is about 18-20 months only. Why so bising, take the hit and clear off your loan la idiots.
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just wait for your turn kena. Gamuda staff PH voters kena. We fell into 15% bracket also mostly PH voters. There few more years.. will hit you soon
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QUOTE(opportunity88 @ Dec 5 2018, 10:14 PM)
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Dec 5 2018, 10:13 PM)
just wait for your turn kena. Gamuda staff PH voters kena. We fell into 15% bracket also mostly PH voters. There few more years.. will hit you soon
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I saved up and took the 20% discount, cleared my ptptn loans before it was due.
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i want to kerja keras to hit 8k of salary so that i can bayar habis cepat
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QUOTE(vanillapire @ Dec 5 2018, 10:13 PM)
It is more about responsibility and prioritisation than punishment on borrowers.

Besides, you used the word defaulter and you should have know the actual meaning of it.
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Defaulters. Yea i know the meaning.

So they should follow the law. If they default in the payment, bring to court. Ccris ctos do everything. Only if the amount is abive 50k, go for bankruptcy.

But to force them pay for an amount that they cannot afford to pay, is nonsense. Bcoz of this force payment, they may not be able to pay for their house or car. Then they will go bankrupt. Their car kena tarik. Or house got lelong.

Thats nonsense.

Even banks dont do such evil practice.
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 5 2018, 10:03 PM)
But doing so will create more harm than good. Since this potongan is straight from the salary, many people may find it hard to service their other loans.

If that is to happen, npl for banks will be high. After a year or 2, many will go bankrupt. Not good for economy.

Is this what they want?

I dont think they thought this thru. Its illogical.
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Yup, especially those hand-to-mouth type, i seen some earning 5 figure also merely enough for his own lifestyle, further punish them will do more harm with this roti canai policy. If they follow the repayment back then, no point to punish them pun. It is the government wrong policy back then.

If they say this new policy is applicable for 2019 applicant onwards, go ahead and do it. Now the policy drafted as every borrowers has to follow.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Dec 5 2018, 03:10 PM)
Its like saying kalau dia pandai, dia tak akan jadi miskin.

Inbe4 everyone has a miskin father.
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More like, kalau dia pandai, dia...

Bayar je lah

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Good and excellent move! Ptptn really need to out their foot down!
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salary deduction amount is less compared to my ptptn agreement. ok for me. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 10:11 PM)
bising is because the amount change from the agreement , that is why bising

already sign and agree pay...example rm250 a mth...

suka suka ...mood bad change rm1.2k...
next year mood bad? change rm1.5k....macam ini ka contract??

use ur brain la idiot
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contract with CHINA (ECRL, MYHSR) they also can change contract...what do u expect contract with own people
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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Dec 5 2018, 10:19 PM)
Defaulters. Yea i know the meaning.

So they should follow the law. If they default in the payment, bring to court. Ccris ctos do everything. Only if the amount is abive 50k, go for bankruptcy.

But to force them pay for an amount that they cannot afford to pay, is nonsense. Bcoz of this force payment, they may not be able to pay for their house or car. Then they will go bankrupt. Their car kena tarik. Or house got lelong.

Thats nonsense.

Even banks dont do such evil practice.
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Well blame the certain quarters that politicises the ptptn issue by making the law too lenient on borrowers.

And try default your mortgage and see what banks will do to you.
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THIS TOTALLY BULLSHIT. IF THIS CAN HAPPEN. THEN THE BANKS CAN DO THE SAME TOO.
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MOVING FORWARD, WITHIN 3 YEARS. BANK GONNA BANKRUPT, THEY WILL CALL EVERYONE TO SETTLE THE LOAN BECAUSE THEY NEED THE MONEY URGENTLY. FARK OFF LAA.. WE GOT A CONTRACT HERE, SIGNED CONTRACT AND IT IS LEGAL. WE CAN BRING THIS TO COURT. WE ALREADY PAID THE PAYMENT AS AGREED. WHY INSTEAD TO FORCE PEOPLE TO PAY MORE???????????????????????? CIBAI PH.
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 5 2018, 10:11 PM)
bising is because the amount change from the agreement , that is why bising

already sign and agree pay...example rm250 a mth...

suka suka ...mood bad change rm1.2k...
next year mood bad? change rm1.5k....macam ini ka contract??

use ur brain la idiot
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Exactly. Many of us have existing loans to serve. To come up a plan and shove it down our throats without long grace period disrupts our finances. 1.2k is alot and needed to cover most of our child expenses. I'm fine if the government wants to implement the deduction. If it's 1.2k I'm ok with it but give us a grace period of at least a year to work out our finances. We have been paying timely and because of one single bad apple we are all getting the punishment. If the government doesn't take precautions in managing it well many would stood up and go against the plan.
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Well blame the certain quarters that politicises the ptptn issue by making the law too lenient on borrowers.

And try default your mortgage and see what banks will do to you.
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Like i said, if above 50k sure go for bankruptcy. But ptptn loan is how much? They should follow the proper procedure for loan defaulters. Forcing people to pay without following the procedure is itself wrong.

If u default on personal loan which is not above 50k, do u think its right for the bank to just potong ur gaji with the amount that they feel fit? That is wrong.

Thats what im trying to say.
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Defaulters. Yea i know the meaning.

So they should follow the law. If they default in the payment, bring to court. Ccris ctos do everything. Only if the amount is abive 50k, go for bankruptcy.

But to force them pay for an amount that they cannot afford to pay, is nonsense. Bcoz of this force payment, they may not be able to pay for their house or car. Then they will go bankrupt. Their car kena tarik. Or house got lelong.

Thats nonsense.

Even banks dont do such evil practice.
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I'm going to see myself to fall to the said situation above. with all the income I got now, the commitment I got, now I need to spare another 1.2k alone and to pay this stupid repayment force agreement for another 4 years.
I already did my repayment, already doing the payment as scheduled. This is totally bullshit.

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20% discount only applicable if pay at ptptn office? Can it be done via online?
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I'm going to see myself to fall to the said situation above. with all the income I got now, the commitment I got, now I need to spare another 1.2k alone and to pay this stupid repayment force agreement for another 4 years.
I already did my repayment, already doing the payment as scheduled. This is totally bullshit.
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tomorrow is just tell my tenant that i will increase the rental by 300%..ehehehe..
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if some party took up all the uturn policy and promise to go down that road, might have a chance to win
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QUOTE(Kyojin @ Dec 5 2018, 10:19 PM)
I saved up and took the 20% discount, cleared my ptptn loans before it was due.
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tomorrow is just tell my tenant that i will increase the rental by 300%..ehehehe..
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that 20% offer still valid until end of this year. the last resort what we got. settle it off. ask this PTPTPUUU to fark off..
and PH too. Say goodbye after this 5 years. I will ensure my vote will not go back to them.
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after reading through the many comments, it appears to me, the issue is, many people are not willing to pay up more because it's only 1% interest....and many defaulted and got away with it....

automatic deduction is a standard feature of many student loans systems, including the australian hecs-help programme (yes, they need to pay about a third of fees, and can borrow most of that)....

the australian system is, automatic deduction at salary source starts after a certain salary level, arranged through the ato (lhdn)....and EVERYBODY registers with ato, because, if you don't have a tax number, your employer MUST BY LAW deduct 50% of your salary to remit to ato....

nobody escapes...everybody registers, even if you are doing part time waiting....!! nobody wants 50% of their wages removed...

many here are unhappy now because although they owe money, because of low payments/defaults with impunity, many over commits on other "investments" and now they cannot default anymore....

nobody makes financial commitment based on "not needing to pay taxes/epf/socso" right?....so why are people making commitments based on 'not needing to pay ptptn'?

if the gov implements the australian system from the beginning, this issue would not have arisen at all....but the previous bn gov failed to manage the ptptn system wisely.....one wonders if they actually already decided to run it as a 'scholarship' system, quite willing to write off the loans....that is because i believe the ptptn system is a SCAM to pass public funds to private hands (private education)....the unis owners pocket the money and students get saddled with the baby....
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QUOTE(haimirmaya @ Dec 5 2018, 10:49 PM)
that 20% offer still valid until end of this year. the last resort what we got. settle it off. ask this PTPTPUUU to fark off..
and PH too. Say goodbye after this 5 years. I will ensure my vote will not go back to them.
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Chill bro. I feel you. Ptptn was suppose to help but not provide a huge burden. If they want to stimulate the current economy it should allow us much head room to spend and generate more business and income for all other sectors. This allows the government to ear more from tax. But now we all have to spare a huge chunk of our pay to payback then it's going to force us to spend less. When we spend less business will earn less or just down right lingkup. When that happens jobs become lesser and rate of employment becomes higher. I'm not against the whole pay back thingy but I feel they just think out a right decision out of their butts without brainstorming and study in detail. No pH vote for me on the next round.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 5 2018, 05:50 PM)
Looks like middle income 4k kena paling teruk laugh.gif
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really kecian those middle income people who are trying to survive, suddenly kena pay so much last minute sad.gif
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Does anyone know if the % salary for deduction would be calculated as basic salary or after adding allowances and stuffs?

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Wahlao, you owe ppl money you need to pay back la. Especially you have 8k monthly income.

You know you will get very sui when owe people money? The longer you drag, the shitter your life will be. better pay back all one shot.
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Wtf betul.. We monthly pay on time now need pay more... The percentage increase as well with higher income.. Hello we kena reduction with income tax when higher income.. And they give employer tax free for help us pay ptptn..
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Dec 5 2018, 10:43 PM)
20% discount only applicable if pay at ptptn office? Can it be done via online?
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asking the same, did some research online but it seem that only can settle in the office
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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:35 PM)
They should one shot pay house and car. much higher interest la.

PTPTN only 1%. wise one will pay slowly.

Trust me, real reason many butthurt here. ONE PERCENT.
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They want to clear their oldest debt 1st, then only take newer loans. nod.gif Also, Ptptn sum not as much as car/house loans. smile.gif

You got a valid point! thumbup.gif Ya, how come gov x tot of increasing the interest!?
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if gaji increase within that bracket..will be nightmare to that employee. lol

macam our income tax tier
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Nett salary RM5K. Ailing parents, just got married with a house. While been paying back PTPTN on scheduled.

GG. Damn you Wan Saiful.

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kena tolak 1.2k ptptn mau adjust dekat mana, kena jual honda cibic laaa
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the employer tax relief proposal is a good loophole to use, if i were a ptptn loaner....

tell employer, instead of paying me more salary (which i will need to pay taxes on), use that money to pay my ptptn loan....i get "tax free" extra salary, and the employer gets tax relief....
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so how? next erection you mau pancut dalam siapa?

inb4 abph
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QUOTE(art6969 @ Dec 5 2018, 11:13 PM)
salary - 8k

home loan - 2k
honda cibic - 1.5k
credit card - 1k
personal loan -2k
utilities, makan, shopping - 1.5k

kena tolak 1.2k ptptn mau adjust dekat mana, kena jual honda cibic laaa
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how come no ptptn loan repayment?....defaulter ah?....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 5 2018, 10:55 PM)
after reading through the many comments, it appears to me, the issue is, many people are not willing to pay up more because it's only 1% interest....and many defaulted and got away with it....

automatic deduction is a standard feature of many student loans systems, including the australian hecs-help programme (yes, they need to pay about a third of fees, and can borrow most of that)....

the australian system is, automatic deduction at salary source starts after a certain salary level, arranged through the ato (lhdn)....and EVERYBODY registers with ato, because, if you don't have a tax number, your employer MUST BY LAW deduct 50% of your salary to remit to ato....

nobody escapes...everybody registers, even if you are doing part time waiting....!! nobody wants 50% of their wages removed...

many here are unhappy now because although they owe money, because of low payments/defaults with impunity, many over commits on other "investments" and now they cannot default anymore....

nobody makes financial commitment based on "not needing to pay taxes/epf/socso" right?....so why are people making commitments based on 'not needing to pay ptptn'?

if the gov implements the australian system from the beginning, this issue would not have arisen at all....but the previous bn gov failed to manage the ptptn system wisely.....one wonders if they actually already decided to run it as a 'scholarship' system, quite willing to write off the loans....that is because i believe the ptptn system is a SCAM to pass public funds to private hands (private education)....the unis owners pocket the money and students get saddled with the baby....
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The issue here is ptptn offered 1% interest and 20yr repayment to entice students to take up the loan and many did took the loans at the agreed conditions. Whether they default the loan or not is another problem. But ptptn made this offer and if it were a different offer, many wouldnt have taken the loan or many would have planned their finances according to the newly discussed repayment format. But for ph to now revamp the format suddenly is disrupting alot of the financial planning the borrowers had in place. Definitely a bad and poor move. They should implement this new scheme to fresh loans only.

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 5 2018, 11:17 PM)
the employer tax relief proposal is a good loophole to use, if i were a ptptn loaner....

tell employer, instead of paying me more salary (which i will need to pay taxes on), use that money to pay my ptptn loan....i get "tax free" extra salary, and the employer gets tax relief....
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lhdn is the mother of money making schemer
that wont go pass them
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My last drawn salary around 3-3.5k.

But before this semua kerja kontrak and still manage to pay according to jadual.

Tapi sekarang tak kerja menganggur macam mana? Even part time kerja pun masih bayar sikit sikit. sad.gif
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is the 10% discount still available if you settle half?
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of course it will....it's perfectly legit....

just the same as asking your employer to pay you 19% epf....perfectly ligit, and allowed under income tax laws....

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Main problem for this is you need commit more than what you planned within short period of notice

it's similar like you signed up housing loan with 2k monthly installment @ 35 years.

Suddenly few years later bank send you love letter and request you to pay 4k monthly @17 years

it's also kind like punishment to those people that consistently paying their money according to agreed amount.

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is the 10% discount still available if you settle half?
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hehhehe now they also got scandal...
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Main problem for this is you need commit more than what you planned within short period of notice

it's similar like you signed up housing loan with 2k monthly installment @ 35 years.

Suddenly few years later bank send you love letter and request you to pay 4k monthly @17 years

it's also kind like punishment to those people that consistently paying their money according to agreed amount.
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Moving forward, all the borrower can do the same as this PTPTPU. When there is any extra money needed, just simply call it off to all the borrower, you earn more now. Please pay all to me.
FORCEFULLY. This is along method yet to be precise. I'm really pissed off.

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how come no ptptn loan repayment?....defaulter ah?....
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i paid only 300 per month
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Guys, can one of you enlighten me, in your loan agreement documents, does the agreement allow the lender to change the repayment terms?

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