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juvaan
post Dec 5 2018, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Dec 5 2018, 07:05 PM)
same applies to those who borrow your money but fails to pay back.. the anger, the frustration are equally shared.
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if the person has been paying without delay and sometimes even more than scheduled according to agreement?

How about those?
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post Dec 5 2018, 07:31 PM

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9 step plan to increase PTPTN repayments :

1. Reveal high repayment % to scare borrowers
2. Inform deductions will start in January 2019
3. tomorrow errbody rushes to PTPTN/EPF office to process withdrawals to be entitled for 20% discount
4. suddenly defaulters reduced from 60 % to 20% and PTPTN recoups most of its loans
6. fully settled loans also get 20 % discount by 31 December
7. Gomen announces PTPTN recouped enough funds to sustain another 30 years of loans
8. Plan dibatalkan/ditangguhkan/dikaji semula, back to daily life
9. everybody forgets this debacle and everybody wins


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juvaan
post Dec 5 2018, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:41 PM)
or ppl burn down lge's house
just abolish ptptn onli lah
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Abolish what?

its people like you who caused this much trouble. No free lunch in this world okeh?
juvaan
post Dec 5 2018, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:45 PM)
u trigger 4 wat, abolish ptptn loan poor ppl just stay home bcum begger no nid study
i no say abolish ptptn repayment
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not sure u trolling or you're just plain stupid? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Dec 5 2018, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:48 PM)
u stupid onli ptptn
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so you're telling me if no scholarship = stupid?
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post Dec 5 2018, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 07:51 PM)
Thank you PTPTN and government for helping me out.

I was from a low-income family, parents cant afford my tuition fees for universities.

My grades were not bad, but not good either to get full scholarships or waiver.

So I borrowed around 50k to go tertiary education.

10 years have passed. I am now earning RM12k, managerial role.

Looking back to my struggles, I wanna thank gvt and ptptn for giving me a chance to climb the social ladder and a better future for me and my family.

For that, I gladly oblige to the payment. I gladly settle a small % of my income to a loan, that costs very little (1% interest) yet gave me a fighting chance to climb the social status. I promise to use 15-20% of my income for ptptn although I have some other commitments.

Sekian.
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Earning 12k. good.

Lets say.. hypothetically... you have 4 kids in school, with parents who are elderly and with high medical bills...

hmm.gif hmm.gif


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post Dec 5 2018, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 07:52 PM)
u think too much, u stupid onli
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perhaps you are born with silver spoon, privileged and entitled.

i think you are not aware the consequences and gravity of this repayment scheme. why do you think triggered such reaction?
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 07:58 PM)
It was not the government nor ptptn's fault for poor family planning. PTPTN has realized its objective in helping me and some other people who worked hard to climb the social ladder.

It doesn't matter how many % you wanna set aside, as long as you settle your debt, or what I would like to call it a deed.
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i signed an agreement with the same government who agreed lets say RM300 per month 10 years ago.

when you have 6-7 mouths to feed and you have 8k salary, every penny counts. Not everyone is entitled and privileged like you.

what does that got to do with family planning? parents fall sick with high medical bills was part of your plan? Lets say you bought a house and took a loan for 2k repayment with the bank and suddenly after 10 years they demand 6k per month... you will oblige and accept the 6k repayment since its your "debt"?

Genius.
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:08 PM)
tat y i said u stupid
every loan got contract, even it is floating rate it will not exceed certain amount

but if let say bank loan contract repayment depend on its mood, hrmmm next month u nid 2 pay 60% lah, bcauz i no moneh,
u think wat will happen? tis is the current gov telling 2 the public, come sue 2 gov pls
if the gov can do like tis ady, y not bank?
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of course bank can do that. but bank wont, becoz people like you dont understand free market economics.

PTPTN is not a money making entity like bank which does not need to conform to free market economics.

Di situlah serlahnya kebodohan mu
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:14 PM)
They can do that
You can read your agreement and see it for yourself
And again
Dah hutang bayarlah pundek
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Bank can do that. but they wont.


Satu lagi pundek yang x faham ekonomi.
juvaan
post Dec 5 2018, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Manada @ Dec 5 2018, 08:17 PM)
So what were you doing all these while before you hit RM8k salary? Starbucks and cheonging?
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You are clearly running out of valid arguments as you should hear your own remarks. so much for a 12k manager. pui!

Your success and privilege in your life doesn't entitle you to judge the less fortunate due to your lack of empathy
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:23 PM)
lol tat y i said u stupid lah, dare 2 say free market economics sumore
doing so will shock shrink tax generated from those income group since
they spend the most gov earn the most tax from them, free market demand & supply mah
u knw how long it take 2 recover or not? i bet u don't even knw time 2 recover & its fomula is wat

thn u said but bank won't? how r u sure bank won't, if 1 can get away with it
another will follow, whn u no options how 2 get free market? u don't 4get free market always factor in profits
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lol dumbass you just contradicted your own point.

they wuld have done it long go if they could, but they just cant.

Thats free market economics for you. you are nothing more than trying to lick PH ass and being a jerk.
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(GoingMerry @ Dec 5 2018, 08:29 PM)
Econonics experts, let's be clear haha... Banks won't reduce loan tenure from 30 yrs to 10 yr when they see u earn much more money. In fact, they will lend you more.

It's their main income laa.. why reduce loan period? break their own rice bowl?

So, don't compare banks and ptptn like this leh...experts.
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exactly you're another dumbass contradicting your own point.

you just explained the reason why banks dont do it and why PTPTN can.
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(ahter @ Dec 5 2018, 08:34 PM)
KNN MCB ..  pinjam duit tak bising .. suruh bayar bising.
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bukan tak bayar la sohai, the point is why this ruling applied to all? Why not only on defaulters?

change payment agreement at free will you ok?
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(a4techx7 @ Dec 5 2018, 08:35 PM)
Let me change the analogy

You get a loan from bank in 1990 and monthly installment based on that time blr is 300
Economy crisis in 97/98 and all of sudden u have to pay 1000 but can't afford it due to 6-7 mouths to feed.

Apa susah? 14th floor la. Lel
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And there you go. Why PTPTN shouldnt behave like a bank.
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Dec 5 2018, 08:37 PM)
Yes... it cannot be compare... which bank every loan you money for 1% interest.
So don't compare when the government decided to change policy to clip pay back rate to salary.

Some of those I know, enjoying the 1% low interest rate for so long... investing in ASN, FixD or stock and paying merely the minimum with salary >5k... Now when government change policy to increase payment, all F words come out.... These ppl can easily payback just by taking out their investment.... But no, they won't... they want to enjoy interest free loan.... devil.gif
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wait a minute... isnt that the purpose of PTPTN?
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 5 2018, 08:39 PM)
Those who sign agreement for the 1% sure kencing, because government doesn't follow the law of contract. The agreement already stipulated all the repayment schedule and they trying to rescind it.

A lot people laugh at Gamuda padan muka, songlap, but the agreement already there, now those PTPTN borrower going to feel like Gamuda liao. Malaysia baru give a misconception of rescind contract as they like, like this how to convince investor to invest in Malaysia.

IMO the rules is good for those who did not pay single cent, using this force method will work, but please do not punish those who follow PTPTN loan contract repayment.
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Yes, thats all.

And why the rush to implement in January?

Sekian.
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post Dec 5 2018, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:50 PM)
they can't bcauz it isn't free economy bcauz bank negara say any form of loan cannot do tat
but since gov violated tat  brows.gif

lul stupid keyboard warrior
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Ya lor why violate? Isnt that what we complaining?

Why violate agreement?

Free economy or not...If bank cannot do that why gov can? isnt that what all this fuss is about?




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post Dec 5 2018, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 5 2018, 08:51 PM)
it is just a example for stupid juvaan who knw nothing
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For me no issue, eligible 20% discount somemore, better get done with it. How about those who comply payment as agreed for years and years and heavily battered with essential commitments (sickly parents/children)

Sadly the gov failed to see all aspects. Obedient and disciplined M40 once again bears the brunt of selfish borrowers.

And you my friend, as i assumed, are probably truly privileged and selfish jerk/prick with no empathy or thoughtfulness for the general mass. From the way you speak, you have truly never been through hardship havent you?

Wait till you are desperate for that last 100 bucks in your account and LHDN puts their hands in your account takes it away, JUST BECOZ THEY CAN tongue.gif .

Rest my case. Cheers.
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post Dec 5 2018, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2018, 08:57 PM)
Bayar je lah

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once again, bukan tak bayar, but stick to agreement je la?

Many honest borrowers who pay on time according to agreement with the same PTPTN.

Why punish those who comply? why not just impose this on defaulters?

I rest my case. Goodnight flex.gif

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