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post Feb 20 2017, 12:39 AM, updated 9y ago

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Welcome To The All New Proton Persona VVT (2016) Official Thread V2


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Proton Persona VVT 5 Star ASEAN Ncap Safety





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Variant & pricing
PERSONA 1.6 STANDARD MT - RM 46,350.00/ Solid | RM 46,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 STANDARD CVT - RM 49,350.00/ Solid | RM 49,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 EXECUTIVE CVT - RM 55,350.00/ Solid | RM 55,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 PREMIUM CVT - RM 59,350.00/ Solid | RM 59,800.00/ Metallic


What Included In Proton 3 years Free Services (Those who bought before Oct 2016)
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New Persona 2016 VVT dimension VS Old & Other Competitors (From Pauline Site)
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New Persona 2016 VVT VS Proton Iriz
The Plus:-
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Honest Review
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Fuel Consumption
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Proton Persona 2016 Warranty & Service Booklet.pdf
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Persona 2016 Manual.pdf
https://www.docdroid.net/sJmX0E1/persona-20...manual.pdf.html


Persona 2016 Quick Guide.pdf
https://www.docdroid.net/JYuRz3L/persona-20...-guide.pdf.html


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Periodic Inspection message
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OMG OMG OMG What is this Periodic Inspection? Why like that? what to do? Problem again?
>>Its perfectly fine, our baby just seeking for some attention, usually came at 500km before service due or date, whichever comes first
QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 4 2017, 09:30 AM)
Periodic inspection msg is NOT A WARNING. But A REMINDER.

I noticed that when something different appeared at that tiny LED panel beside showing the normal status (like gear mode,  FC level/distance)  ... many drivers felt panicky and think something is going south / wrong. hahha...
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CVT feel underpower? Try this
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Additional tips : Adapt to your car, Learn how the CVT behave like how Manual driver learn how to release the clutch precisely

Some discussion about CVT can be found in here as well if you're curious http://autoworld.com.my/forum/index.php?/t...-saga-exora-p3/



Rattling noise at HU? Try this solution from Iriz thread, what shouldn't move, just tape it laugh.gif
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copied from the post for easier referencing

For head unit crackling sound especially during hot day can try to DIY this.

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 20 2017, 01:39 AM)
Welcome To The All New Proton Persona VVT (2016) Official Thread V2
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Proton Persona VVT 5 Star ASEAN Ncap Safety


Color Option
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Variant & pricing
PERSONA 1.6 STANDARD MT - RM 46,350.00/ Solid | RM 46,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 STANDARD CVT - RM 49,350.00/ Solid | RM 49,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 EXECUTIVE CVT - RM 55,350.00/ Solid | RM 55,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 PREMIUM CVT - RM 59,350.00/ Solid | RM 59,800.00/ Metallic
What Included In Proton 3 years Free Services (Those who bought before Oct 2016)
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New Persona 2016 VVT dimension VS Old & Other Competitors (From Pauline Site)
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New Persona 2016 VVT VS Proton Iriz
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Honest Review
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Fuel Consumption
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Proton Persona 2016 Warranty & Service Booklet.pdf
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Persona 2016 Manual.pdf
https://www.docdroid.net/sJmX0E1/persona-20...manual.pdf.html
Persona 2016 Quick Guide.pdf
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Nice always hope for more info on the first page. Now we got nice info.
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Wow...really early to introduce V2. Usually start new thread when there's already 125 pages.

But good to see some updated info on the first page.
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Thanks

I have few concerns

1. What is the Best FC i can get in Persona so far 7.6/00km in city 7.4/100 km highway ( 800km drove already )
2. I think my ride on 100 km/hr i feel vibration in my feet ( NKYVE Damansara - klang ) is it normal ?
3. does it worth to change the tyres and upsize what are the disadvantages .


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Wind noise above 80 kmh.. anyone able to rectified, which SC?
Which part need to replace ?

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anyone had a head unit installed in their persona standard? am looking into getting this. anyone who got this can review?

http://www.sony.com.my/electronics/in-car-...yers/xav-w650bt
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Congrats on the new V2 ...
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 20 2017, 01:18 PM)
Thanks

I have few concerns

1. What is the Best FC i can get in Persona so far 7.6/00km in city 7.4/100 km highway ( 800km drove already )
2. I think my ride on 100 km/hr i feel vibration in my feet ( NKYVE Damansara - klang )  is it normal ?
3. does it worth to change the tyres and upsize what are the disadvantages .
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1. Best I can get on mine is 16KM/l (manual) and that is with a major condition to achieve and yours are still below 1k, it will get better eventually after first service

2. Vibrate like what? can clarify specifically?
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QUOTE(wh0cares @ Feb 20 2017, 02:23 PM)
Wind noise above 80 kmh.. anyone able to rectified, which SC?
Which part need to replace ?
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zero5177 already waiting its part to arrive. Just wait his update.
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 20 2017, 04:38 PM)
COUNT ME IN!!! zero5177   pakku_azrie  | Black | Manual | Premium Jadian    here   icon_idea.gif
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It won't void the warranty? Modding like that lol. And how did you change the steering wheel without affecting the airbag? sweat.gif
Where did you get the arm rest? tongue.gif

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Thanks for the support guys!

My recent best FC city highway mix 30% 70%
10hours + driving time
45km/h average speed

15.6km/l
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COUNT ME IN!!! zero5177  pakku_azrie  | Black | Manual | Premium Jadian    here  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 20 2017, 12:39 AM)
Welcome To The All New Proton Persona VVT (2016) Official Thread V2
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Proton Persona VVT 5 Star ASEAN Ncap Safety


Color Option
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Variant & pricing
PERSONA 1.6 STANDARD MT - RM 46,350.00/ Solid | RM 46,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 STANDARD CVT - RM 49,350.00/ Solid | RM 49,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 EXECUTIVE CVT - RM 55,350.00/ Solid | RM 55,800.00/ Metallic
PERSONA 1.6 PREMIUM CVT - RM 59,350.00/ Solid | RM 59,800.00/ Metallic
What Included In Proton 3 years Free Services (Those who bought before Oct 2016)
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New Persona 2016 VVT dimension VS Old & Other Competitors (From Pauline Site)
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New Persona 2016 VVT VS Proton Iriz
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Proton Persona 2016 Warranty & Service Booklet.pdf
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Persona 2016 Manual.pdf
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Persona 2016 Quick Guide.pdf
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Fuel consumption report

Highway speed :100-120 kmph
City speed 40-80kmph

Everyday traveling about 40+ km
Roughly rm10-12 per day


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QUOTE(T.Alvin @ Feb 20 2017, 08:42 PM)
Fuel consumption report

Highway speed :100-120 kmph
City speed 40-80kmph

Everyday traveling about 40+ km
Roughly rm10-12 per day
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That's very good FC! But we prefer manual calculation bro. The one displayed here is inaccurate. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Feb 20 2017, 08:40 AM)
Wow...really early to introduce V2. Usually start new thread when there's already 125 pages.

But good to see some updated info on the first page.
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Due to previous TS is not active handling the thread and might not own the car as well, so I've decided to start V2 early with more updates. Special thanks for support from Boss262 and Chinifity thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 18 2017, 10:45 PM)
i swapped out the premium parts with this fella.. he spent almost 5k to complete everything i spent 1/5 to source everything he swapped out

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plastidipped the rim

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standard steering rewrapped with carbonesque trim

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Persona Premium Limited Edition, total mod cost more than RM10k..

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 21 2017, 12:05 AM)
Due to previous TS is not active handling the thread and might not own the car as well, so I've decided to start V2 early with more updates. Special thanks for support from Boss262 and Chinifity  thumbsup.gif
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Due to previous TS is not active handling the thread and might not own the car as well, so I've decided to start V2 early with more updates. Special thanks for support from Boss262 and Chinifity  thumbsup.gif
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Lez Pall Previous TS doesn't even own a 2016 Persona, he just created the thread on a whimp.
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CVT premium here. My FC is about 12.5im/l 100% highway. Daily travel 100km++ around 120-140km/h

Good or bad?
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Hi, anyone upgraded the ICE unit? Mind sharing pictures and some details. Thinking of getting a new one to replace it for maybe rm600-800 budget.
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 20 2017, 05:37 PM)
It won't void the warranty? Modding like that lol. And how did you change the steering wheel without affecting the airbag?  sweat.gif
Where did you get the arm rest? tongue.gif
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nope...everything is pnp.... btw the the whole horn cover is an airbag module...just unplug all the cables n we are good to go
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Due to previous TS is not active handling the thread and might not own the car as well, so I've decided to start V2 early with more updates. Special thanks for support from Boss262 and Chinifity  thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(firegal @ Feb 21 2017, 07:42 AM)
CVT premium here. My FC is about 12.5im/l 100% highway. Daily travel 100km++ around 120-140km/h

Good or bad?
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Bad. try drive 80~90km/h, u will get better FC
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Wow. Out of 10 cars, 4 are MT! That's more than I thought.
Having said that, I wonder how does the clutch play? Is the clutch pedal heavy?
My bro got a Satria Neo R3 and the clutch is very tight/heavy. I got an injured left knee so I didn't drive it. Having said that I'm interested to replace my Persona Elegance AT with this new Persona. If the clutch is light like Japanese car (e.g. Insipira 1.8MT) then it's not too bad...maybe my knee can handle it. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 21 2017, 11:35 AM)
Wow. Out of 10 cars, 4 are MT! That's more than I thought.
Having said that, I wonder how does the clutch play? Is the clutch pedal heavy?
My bro got a Satria Neo R3 and the clutch is very tight/heavy. I got an injured left knee so I didn't drive it. Having said that I'm interested to replace my Persona Elegance AT with this new Persona. If the clutch is light like Japanese car (e.g. Insipira 1.8MT) then it's not too bad...maybe my knee can handle it.  hmm.gif
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its a hydraulic clutch...very light n easy to operate
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congrats for new thread. the TS for v1 really mengada-ngada and ignore us.. not even bothered to upload thumbnail for the topic.

Anyway...now I'm having a little problem locating this thread from the list (last time easy to spot coz its the one without thumbnail hahah).

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its a hydraulic clutch...very light n easy to operate
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me too driving new Persona MT, do you feel the clutch biting point position is abit high? like i need to release almost like 60% to engage the engine.
or it's just me?

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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 21 2017, 02:20 PM)
me too driving new Persona MT, do you feel the clutch biting point position is abit high? like i need to release almost like  60% to engage the engine.
or it's just me?
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I feel that its ok.
my old wira biting point is like right at the end biggrin.gif may be due to the fact that the clutch plate worn out.
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me too driving new Persona MT, do you feel the clutch biting point position is abit high? like i need to release almost like  60% to engage the engine.
or it's just me?
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i dont know..i felt like mine is 40% ish...
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QUOTE(firegal @ Feb 21 2017, 07:42 AM)
CVT premium here. My FC is about 12.5im/l 100% highway. Daily travel 100km++ around 120-140km/h

Good or bad?
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Actually is bad FC...but mine is manual la
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QUOTE(firegal @ Feb 21 2017, 07:42 AM)
CVT premium here. My FC is about 12.5im/l 100% highway. Daily travel 100km++ around 120-140km/h

Good or bad?
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Cruising at 120-140 will be fuel consuming... and it also depends how frequent u travelled at 140km/h
The last time I'm cruising at 130-140 got me a 12.8km/l
But I wouldn't say this is bad... its quite average.. because at this speed its not meant for fuel economy anymore...

Next time try 90-110km/h, the fuel consumption will improve a lot.



QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Feb 21 2017, 11:35 AM)
Wow. Out of 10 cars, 4 are MT! That's more than I thought.
Having said that, I wonder how does the clutch play? Is the clutch pedal heavy?
My bro got a Satria Neo R3 and the clutch is very tight/heavy. I got an injured left knee so I didn't drive it. Having said that I'm interested to replace my Persona Elegance AT with this new Persona. If the clutch is light like Japanese car (e.g. Insipira 1.8MT) then it's not too bad...maybe my knee can handle it.  hmm.gif
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Now is 5 out of 14 is MT... seems like quite a lot MT driver waited for this car for quite some time... I remember Bezza barely see 1 MT driver even after their page reaches 100

The clutch is one of the lightest clutch I've ever encountered compare to other MT I've driven, the bite point is slightly higher compared to other MT... but can easily get used to it after a few drive.
Never try Inspira before.. you may consult Quazacolt as he tried both Persona 2016 and Inspira 1.8 MT before... not sure if he still remember thou whistling.gif

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:31 PM)
The clutch is one of the lightest clutch I've ever encountered compare to other MT I've driven,  the bite point is slightly higher compared to other MT... but can easily get used to it after a few drive.
Never try Inspira before.. you may consult Quazacolt as he tried both Persona 2016 and Inspira 1.8 MT before... not sure if he still remember thou  whistling.gif
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clutch wise both abg adik.

pedal positioning and gating, mine is modded.
if i may say, stock vs stock, overall persona's getrag > inspira/lancer's aisin.
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Just pickup my new car yesterday, got to drive it briefly and notice that you need to press more on the paddle to feel the brake actually grip compare to my old car. is this normal for new car?

also not used to the response of CVT gear box yet, can feel lag response sweat.gif

I saw this in V1 thread for the tint spec for SafeTint,

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 21 2017, 08:27 PM)
clutch wise both abg adik.

pedal positioning and gating, mine is modded.
if i may say, stock vs stock, overall persona's getrag > inspira/lancer's aisin.
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davidletterboyz Here's your answer for Inspira MT compared with Persona VVT MT
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QUOTE(whatsup9891 @ Feb 21 2017, 08:54 PM)
Just pickup my new car yesterday, got to drive it briefly and notice that you need to press more on the paddle to feel the brake actually grip compare to my old car. is this normal for new car?

also not used to the response of CVT gear box yet, can feel lag response  sweat.gif

I saw this in V1 thread for the tint spec for SafeTint,

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did you guys change / add other layer of tint for your car?

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For the brake, not sure about CVT, my MT brake is indeed need to press more compared to my other cars, but once the brake "bite" its braking power is quite strong yo... Old Persona and Saga FLX you need to slam quite hard to have this kind of braking power. You'll get used to it quickly.

As for CVT response.. that's out of my reach
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 21 2017, 07:31 PM)
Cruising at 120-140 will be fuel consuming... and it also depends how frequent u travelled at 140km/h
The last time I'm cruising at 130-140 got me a 12.8km/l
But I wouldn't say this is bad... its quite average.. because at this speed its not meant for fuel economy anymore...

Next time try 90-110km/h, the fuel consumption will improve a lot.
Now is 5 out of 14 is MT... seems like quite a lot MT driver waited for this car for quite some time... I remember Bezza barely see 1 MT driver even after their page reaches 100

The clutch is one of the lightest clutch I've ever encountered compare to other MT I've driven,  the bite point is slightly higher compared to other MT... but can easily get used to it after a few drive.
Never try Inspira before.. you may consult Quazacolt as he tried both Persona 2016 and Inspira 1.8 MT before... not sure if he still remember thou  whistling.gif
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That's good to hear!

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 21 2017, 08:27 PM)
clutch wise both abg adik.

pedal positioning and gating, mine is modded.
if i may say, stock vs stock, overall persona's getrag > inspira/lancer's aisin.
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davidletterboyz Here's your answer for Inspira MT compared with Persona VVT MT
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Thanks thanks. notworthy.gif You guys have been helpful.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Feb 20 2017, 03:57 PM)
1. Best I can get on mine is 16KM/l (manual) and that is with a major condition to achieve and yours are still below 1k, it will get better eventually after first service

2. Vibrate like what? can clarify specifically?
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Thanks for the reply , its my second car ,i dont know alot abt cars

vibration like driving at 100 120 km/hr i feel either race or unstable road on highway (which is usually smooth in malaysia )

i feel it in my feet , shouldnt it be stable

i talked to few experienced friends they said change tires to 15'' add another carpet etc

sorry couldnt explain better , i was expecting smooth ride like new car has better suspension so i wont feel the jerks specially on a smooth highway at 100 to 120km
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 21 2017, 11:16 PM)
Thanks for the reply , its my second car ,i dont know alot abt cars

vibration like driving at 100 120 km/hr i feel either race or unstable road on highway (which is usually smooth in malaysia )

i feel it in my feet , shouldnt it be stable

i talked to few experienced friends they said change tires to 15'' add another carpet etc

sorry couldnt explain better , i was expecting smooth ride like new car has better suspension so i wont feel the jerks specially on a smooth highway at 100 to 120km
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the car should feel smooth... but if u mean it feels wobbly on high speed that's because persona is a tall car... with a soft suspension for a relaxed driving...not spirited driving... the car is meant for city driving..not hiway cruising.. on the plus side.. hiway cruising is still better than other car in its class..

back to the topic... the car rim is already 15 inch?.. 16inch with wider tire will increase the grip....

but if u feel a vibration on the paddle..that's normal on any car.. with exception of luxury cars
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Persona wind noise at driver side fix. Check your door gap :

http://faieelegance.blogspot.my/2013/10/di...or-gap.html?m=1
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 21 2017, 11:16 PM)
Thanks for the reply , its my second car ,i dont know alot abt cars

vibration like driving at 100 120 km/hr i feel either race or unstable road on highway (which is usually smooth in malaysia )

i feel it in my feet , shouldnt it be stable

i talked to few experienced friends they said change tires to 15'' add another carpet etc

sorry couldnt explain better , i was expecting smooth ride like new car has better suspension so i wont feel the jerks specially on a smooth highway at 100 to 120km
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Go SC and check.
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Feb 22 2017, 03:10 PM)
Go SC and check.
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Perhaps due to the tyre pressure? When I pump my car tyre for the 1st time the meter reading is at 260kpa, I lowered it down to 220kpa. I do the same like u too, taking corner at 140km/h - 160km/h at highway, can feel the car not stable, maybe because of the soft suspension. U can modify it by lower down the car spring.
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Feb 22 2017, 03:09 PM)
Persona wind noise at driver side fix. Check your door gap :

http://faieelegance.blogspot.my/2013/10/di...or-gap.html?m=1
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This is the real problem cause the windnoise on the new persona??
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QUOTE(yunghui @ Feb 22 2017, 04:25 PM)
This is the real problem cause the windnoise on the new persona??
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nope..its the rubber lining on the window
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 22 2017, 07:18 AM)
the car should feel smooth... but if u mean it feels wobbly on high speed that's because persona is a tall car... with a soft suspension for a relaxed driving...not spirited driving... the car is meant for city driving..not hiway cruising.. on the plus side.. hiway cruising is still better than other car in its class..

back to the topic... the car rim is already 15 inch?.. 16inch with wider tire will increase the grip....

but if u feel a vibration on the paddle..that's normal on any car.. with exception of luxury cars
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Thanks for the explaination , i agree with you ..

Can advise what are the disadvantages of upgrading to 16" with wider tire ? like effect on FC and other things
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QUOTE(yunghui @ Feb 22 2017, 04:23 PM)
Perhaps due to the tyre pressure? When I pump my car tyre for the 1st time the meter reading is at 260kpa, I lowered it down to 220kpa. I do the same like u too, taking corner at 140km/h - 160km/h at highway, can feel the car not stable, maybe because of the soft suspension. U can modify it by lower down the car spring.
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I havent checked the tire pressure yet. i will check and let you know


on the other hand lower down the car spring will void warranty or not ?
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For those who have rattling dashboard sound , just buy the rubber from lazada and install it yourself . It's just rm25. I got mine and installed within 5min. So far so good

In lazada , search for the rubber using this keyword :
Dashboard Rubber Seal
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post Feb 22 2017, 07:11 PM

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Weehuu. Thanks.

Quick question,

Do or dont you honk when u see the same car ? In this case, new persona 2016 ? Hehe.

I did. Hehe 😎😎
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QUOTE(JoJawJack @ Feb 22 2017, 09:20 PM)
Weehuu. Thanks.

Quick question,

Do or dont you honk when u see the same car ? In this case, new persona 2016 ? Hehe.

I did. Hehe 😎😎
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I only honk if amoi driving inside. Talking bout same car...2 weeks ago in MRR2 entering dsara toll few cars converged into my lane...iriz bezza and another honda i think, all red same color as my persona. 4 of us driving back to back for bout 20 seconds. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 22 2017, 06:24 PM)
Thanks for the explaination , i agree with you ..

Can advise what are the disadvantages of upgrading to 16" with wider tire ? like effect on FC and other things
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it will effect the fc..but just a little bit...when der tire means more grip on the ground... and yes 16 inch is more expensive too... as warranty... one plus will do you no haram
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 22 2017, 06:53 PM)
For those who have rattling dashboard sound , just buy the rubber from lazada and install it yourself . It's just rm25. I got mine and installed within 5min. So far so good

In lazada , search for the rubber using this keyword :
Dashboard Rubber Seal
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u know what's cheaper than that? its house sliding door rubber lining.. 😅😅 rm8 only
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btw.. i found a lot of sources of dashboard rattle.. maybe ill upload again some tutorial..that is again if i found another car to repeat the process... dont want to kacau mine..it's perfect already after few minor adjustments
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 22 2017, 10:01 PM)
btw.. i found a lot of sources of dashboard rattle.. maybe ill upload again some tutorial..that is again if i found another car to repeat the process... dont want to kacau mine..it's perfect already after few minor adjustments
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QUOTE(JoJawJack @ Feb 22 2017, 08:20 PM)
Weehuu. Thanks.

Quick question,

Do or dont you honk when u see the same car ? In this case, new persona 2016 ? Hehe.

I did. Hehe 😎😎
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 22 2017, 06:24 PM)
Thanks for the explaination , i agree with you ..

Can advise what are the disadvantages of upgrading to 16" with wider tire ? like effect on FC and other things
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Talking about affecting FC, I don't think its significant enough you can see the differences.

Don't forget after your tire diameter got larger, you may need to add some to your mileage too when doing manual calculation because your wheel just turn slightly lesser for the same distance driven...

But anyway... its too insignificant that you actually don't have to care so much about it... Janji heppi sudah rclxm9.gif

When my tire worn out I may put up a 185/60/15 to see if the ride more comfy... and mayb speedo become more accurately reflecting the actual speed my gps showing tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:17 PM)
Talking about affecting FC, I don't think its significant enough you can see the differences.

Don't forget after your tire diameter got larger, you may need to add some to your mileage too when doing manual calculation because your wheel just turn slightly lesser for the same distance driven...

But anyway... its too insignificant that you actually don't have to care so much about it... Janji heppi sudah rclxm9.gif

When my tire worn out I may put up a 185/60/15 to see if the ride more comfy... and mayb speedo become more accurately reflecting the actual speed my gps showing  tongue.gif
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noted boss by the way i have CVT midnight black standard ...

Lets Meet up some time , may be persona teh tarik club biggrin.gif
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BTW today i notice the rattling dashboard sound

i will go sc and check , definitely wont leave my car will try to do lazada trick as mentioned by someone ...

and also for windnoise will add the door side rubber . lets see biggrin.gif
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Glad to see Persona has less issuescompare to new HONDA civic




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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Feb 22 2017, 08:41 PM)
I only honk if amoi driving inside. Talking bout same car...2 weeks ago in MRR2 entering dsara toll  few cars converged into my lane...iriz bezza and another honda i think, all red same color as my persona. 4 of us driving back to back for bout 20 seconds.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hehe. If amoi ? So rare amoi drive persona. I only saw them drive myvi n bezza. i usually b4 i honk, i follow the car first. Until then honk. Hehe.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:10 PM)
I scare triggered someone and kena LOD  sad.gif
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Just friendly honk, not angry honk lol. Just do it. For me its funny.haha.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 21 2017, 12:05 AM)
Due to previous TS is not active handling the thread and might not own the car as well, so I've decided to start V2 early with more updates. Special thanks for support from Boss262 and Chinifity  thumbsup.gif
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Btw does the rattling sound happened again after so many days fixed from Cose ?
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:35 PM)
Glad to see Persona has less issuescompare to new HONDA civic
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Seems to be inline with what I thought. When the Civic was launched I went to check the fit and finish...it's actually quite mediocre; at least compared to Mazda 3.

Having said that, Suprima S and Preve's fit and finish were lousy. Persona seems to be improved.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 22 2017, 06:53 PM)
For those who have rattling dashboard sound , just buy the rubber from lazada and install it yourself . It's just rm25. I got mine and installed within 5min. So far so good

In lazada , search for the rubber using this keyword :
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Will this solve the issue 100% on the rattling sound by dashboard? Previously send my car to SC to fix the issue, however after a month, the problem comes back.
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QUOTE(croydon @ Feb 21 2017, 01:35 AM)
Persona Premium Limited Edition, total mod cost more than RM10k..
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Actually is around 5k+ only..the owner of that car is my school friend😂
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QUOTE(kyo2020 @ Feb 23 2017, 12:07 PM)
Hi all,

my Persona Exec facing issue of lacking throttle response and need to pedal for 1-2 seconds before the car can move. Anyone facing same issue? Anyway of fixing it or it is really like that?

Appreciate any feedback.

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I also have notice that. I heard some where this due to CVT gear box, the responsiveness is not as fast as 4AT.

Maybe other CVT owner can give feedback also. Or got any solution..
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QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:23 PM)
noted boss by the way i have CVT midnight black standard ...

Lets Meet up some time , may be persona teh tarik club biggrin.gif
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Eh... I am no boss.. but I do agree with the meet up rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(JoJawJack @ Feb 22 2017, 11:33 PM)
Just friendly honk, not angry honk lol. Just do it. For me  its funny.haha.
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I duno how to friendly honk... today just saw one Premium beside me at Bukit Puchong bridge and suddenly think of this
but mana tau when cornering it came makan my lane... luckily I had an eye on it ranting.gif

QUOTE(Chinifity @ Feb 23 2017, 08:41 AM)
Btw does the rattling sound happened again after so many days fixed from Cose ?
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The rattling noise at passenger side from before has completely vanished.

But...

New rattling noise like somewhere in the stering or cluster meter appear pula doh.gif

But very rare occasion only... like today never encounter any noise
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Will this solve the issue 100% on the rattling sound by dashboard? Previously send my car to SC to fix the issue, however after a month, the problem comes back.
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So far those installed this didn't complain anymore... but if the rattling is not caused by the dashboard like wires... then it cannot solve

Regarding your rattling dashboard, is it the same noise as previously before sending to SC? because such a coincidence mine also sent to SC fix, previous sound at passenger side is no more, but new sound appear... sounds like something inside the dashboard is knocking the plastic or what which no longer at passenger side like I previously had, its more on driver side or behind HU
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Guys..wan ask does your persona give sound warning if you open your driver door when the car is either in drive/parking mode..encounter 1 very dangerous situation juz now sad.gif lucky nothing bad happen..
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Feb 23 2017, 10:53 PM)
Guys..wan ask does your persona give sound warning if you open your driver door when the car is either in drive/parking mode..encounter 1 very dangerous situation juz now sad.gif lucky nothing bad happen..
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You mean sound warning when door is not properly closed while car still moving?

I never encounter before, but the multi-info meter will show which door is not properly shut.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 23 2017, 09:49 PM)
Eh... I am no boss.. but I do agree with the meet up  rclxm9.gif
I duno how to friendly honk... today just saw one Premium beside me at Bukit Puchong bridge and suddenly think of this
but mana tau when cornering it came makan my lane... luckily I had an eye on it  ranting.gif
The rattling noise at passenger side from before has completely vanished.

But...

New rattling noise like somewhere in the stering or cluster meter appear pula  doh.gif

But very rare occasion only... like today never encounter any noise
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i have that noise in my car.

going sc sunday morning , i think can fix laah
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 23 2017, 11:20 PM)
You mean sound warning when door is not properly closed while car still moving?

I never encounter before, but the multi-info meter will show which door is not properly shut.
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yes..and also when car is stopping..juz now when i stop my car i thought it was in parking mode already..but actually it was in reverse..

i go out from my car..my car oni start to move backwards..so shocked when i look back...

lucky my fren still inside car pull the handbrake ..if not sure crash behind car.. sad.gif

i wish there was fucking loud noise to warn me on this situation mega_shok.gif


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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 23 2017, 09:54 PM)
So far those installed this didn't complain anymore... but if the rattling is not caused by the dashboard like wires... then it cannot solve

Regarding your rattling dashboard, is it the same noise as previously before sending to SC? because such a coincidence mine also sent to SC fix, previous sound at passenger side is no more, but new sound appear... sounds like something inside the dashboard is knocking the plastic or what which no longer at passenger side like I previously had, its more on driver side or behind HU
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When I install the rubber , I can feel the plastic at the edge of the dashboard is really soft and it's like hollow at the center. I found out because I need to push the rubber using my finger into the gap and surprisingly it's like very easy to go in...

So far the result after install and drive for some time.: The rattling definitely lesser now. But like you said , I also heard like there is some wire vibrating and touching the inner of the head unit which caused a slight rattling sound but the sound is definitely lesser now. Think the rubber did it's magic but the rattling sound from inside the head unit is not bothering me.

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I don't know any of you has this problem
After my first 1k service , the car drinks petrol like water.
My FC is very bad. It's like rm80 can only give me 300-320km only before it start showing me the orange color indicator

I am sending my car to sc on Monday to have them check on the ECU.

By the way, any sc that allows us to bring own engine lub?

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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Feb 23 2017, 11:44 PM)
yes..and also when car is stopping..juz now when i stop my car i thought it was in parking mode already..but actually it was in reverse..

i go out from my car..my car oni start to move backwards..so shocked when i look back...

lucky my fren still inside car pull the handbrake ..if not sure crash behind car.. sad.gif

i wish there was fucking loud noise to warn me on this situation  mega_shok.gif
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Wow. That's really bad.
I guess the sound is because u carry the key down and close the door?
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i am surprised after reading these issues...i was a proton preve cfe 2012 owner which i sold last year..the same issues of the throttle response was poor and it needs a second or two to respond , rattling sounds all were in my preve and more than that..

i am surprised the new persona has it.. the lag i think its due to the cvt , the engine (campro or so called vvti engine) has never been economical when new..after more mileage only it can become better..i have used the previous persona also..not so economical..
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 24 2017, 12:04 AM)
I don't know any of you has this problem
After my first 1k service , the car drinks petrol like water.
My FC is very bad. It's like rm80 can only give me 300-320km only before it start showing me the orange color indicator

I am sending my car to sc on Monday to have them check on the ECU.

By the way, any sc that allows us to bring own engine lub?
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300 to 320 full tank is in what kind of driving condition? if assuming u used RM80 of ron95 to travel only 320km, that convert to a 9.2km/l... that's pretty bad unless you're on 100% city drive with speed not more than 50km/h and lots of jam...
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QUOTE(simongs @ Feb 24 2017, 12:18 AM)
i am surprised after reading these issues...i was a proton preve cfe 2012 owner which i sold last year..the same issues of the throttle response was poor and it needs a second or two to respond , rattling sounds all were in my preve and more than that..

i am surprised the new persona has it.. the lag i think its due to the cvt , the engine (campro or so called vvti engine) has never been economical when new..after more mileage only it can become better..i have used the previous persona also..not so economical..
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In my opinion this Persona FC actually not bad for this weight and this engine...

Compared to my Myvi 1.3 MT which has mileage 200k, the Myvi is getting around 15-16km/l FC meanwhile this new Persona MT is getting around 14km-15km/l similar drive which not bad considering this car is about 200kg heavier than Myvi with bigger 1.6 displacement engine and still below 10k mileage.
My Iswara 1.3 MT only getting 11-12km/l

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300 to 320 full tank is in what kind of driving condition?  if assuming u used RM80 of ron95 to travel only 320km, that convert to a 9.2km/l... that's pretty bad unless you're on 100% city drive with speed not more than 50km/h and lots of jam...
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City drive 70percent. Mostly 60kmh to 90kmh
When I got the car new, the FC is far better than this.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 24 2017, 12:25 AM)
City drive 70percent. Mostly 60kmh to 90kmh
When I got the car new, the FC is far better than this.
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Better get them to check on this...
Oh.. and for the engine lube, I heard if at proton authorized service centre they won't allow this... meanwhile those 3rd pt proton service may accept it.
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I see. Any 3rd party proton service centre that can recommend? Will this give proton excuse to void our warranty if service there?

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I see. Any 3rd party proton service centre that can recommend? Will this give proton excuse to void our warranty if service there?
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Can't comment on this... never been to any 3rd pt b4...
Bringing own lube is always not recommended by Proton, only at 3rd pt they may let you do this... Your warranty less likely getting void if 3rd party agree to use lube u brought your own... but still its better to double check with them first before deciding... you can find their outlet phone number in proton site and give them a call.
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Better get them to check on this...
Oh.. and for the engine lube, I heard if at proton authorized service centre they won't allow this... meanwhile those 3rd pt proton service may accept it.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 24 2017, 12:39 AM)
Can't comment on this... never been to any 3rd pt b4...
Bringing own lube is always not recommended by Proton, only at 3rd pt they may let you do this... Your warranty less likely getting void if 3rd party agree to use lube u brought your own... but still its better to double check with them first before deciding... you can find their outlet phone number in proton site and give them a call.
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So far those installed this didn't complain anymore... but if the rattling is not caused by the dashboard like wires... then it cannot solve

Regarding your rattling dashboard, is it the same noise as previously before sending to SC? because such a coincidence mine also sent to SC fix, previous sound at passenger side is no more, but new sound appear... sounds like something inside the dashboard is knocking the plastic or what which no longer at passenger side like I previously had, its more on driver side or behind HU
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Correct. I'm facing similar issue where the sound comes from the driver side (around steering and speedometer area) and somewhere around HU as well. Can this be fix, though if I'm sending my car to SC by tomorrow?
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Correct. I'm facing similar issue where the sound comes from the driver side (around steering and speedometer area) and somewhere around HU as well. Can this be fix, though if I'm sending my car to SC by tomorrow?
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I send in SC for 3 days...fixed one sound another sound appear after get back the car.
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Wow. That's really bad.
I guess the sound is because u carry the key down and close the door?
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there was no sound to warn me actually when i did this stupid mistake...

haihzz they should make the car to give warning sound if the car in driving/reverse mode and driver opened the door..just a simple features but really good as warning to drivers in case we accidentally forgot..i wonder if i can custom make my car to do this
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 24 2017, 12:19 AM)
300 to 320 full tank is in what kind of driving condition?  if assuming u used RM80 of ron95 to travel only 320km, that convert to a 9.2km/l... that's pretty bad unless you're on 100% city drive with speed not more than 50km/h and lots of jam...
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Mine is around this figures...100% city drive, average speed ard 40-90kmj
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Eh... I am no boss.. but I do agree with the meet up  rclxm9.gif
I duno how to friendly honk... today just saw one Premium beside me at Bukit Puchong bridge and suddenly think of this
but mana tau when cornering it came makan my lane... luckily I had an eye on it  ranting.gif
The rattling noise at passenger side from before has completely vanished.

But...

New rattling noise like somewhere in the stering or cluster meter appear pula  doh.gif

But very rare occasion only... like today never encounter any noise
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How about the rattling from the dashboard head unit?

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If i forget to lock my car after i leave , will iybe locked automatically?
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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Feb 24 2017, 07:41 AM)
Correct. I'm facing similar issue where the sound comes from the driver side (around steering and speedometer area) and somewhere around HU as well. Can this be fix, though if I'm sending my car to SC by tomorrow?
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bro. you mention HU. If you have a premium HU and it is making crackling sound, go to the link below. its from Iriz thread.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=80251650
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If i forget to lock my car after i leave ,  will iybe locked automatically?
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does your car jerk when its at low speed?mine is too obvious..did not like it as my previous car do not have this issue sad.gif
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does your car jerk when its at low speed?mine is too obvious..did not like it as my previous car do not have this issue sad.gif
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your car manual or auto ?

My Auto Dont have this problem
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your car manual or auto ?

My Auto Dont have this problem
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auto premium..so sad just received the car from day one can feel the jerking..now i'm worried everytime when car slowed down and wan change car lane.. confused.gif

btw my car is 2016 model eventhough just got it this month
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auto premium..so sad just received the car from day one can feel the jerking..now i'm worried everytime when car slowed down and wan change car lane.. confused.gif

btw my car is 2016 model eventhough just got it this month
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try do this adapation process. Need to do a few times (3-5 times) as describe in the article

http://service.punchpowertrain.com/product...il1e/id/79.html


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try do this adapation process. Need to do a few times (3-5 times) as describe in the article

http://service.punchpowertrain.com/product...il1e/id/79.html
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thank you so much for the steps shared nod.gif thumbup.gif

i will try this steps for a few days and share the outcome icon_rolleyes.gif
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thank you so much for the steps shared  nod.gif    thumbup.gif

i will try this steps for a few days and share the outcome  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I am sure this will work , as new car take some time for adoption , like mine is smooth biggrin.gif
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Can Anybody recommend good tyre shop in KL / Selangor Area .

Looking to trade in my 5 tyres for new ones i want 16 or 16.5 '
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thank you so much for the steps shared  nod.gif    thumbup.gif

i will try this steps for a few days and share the outcome  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Kindly share your result on this, if this method work.
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Can Anybody recommend good tyre shop in KL / Selangor Area .

Looking to trade in my 5 tyres for new ones i want 16 or 16.5 '
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Feb 24 2017, 12:04 PM)
auto premium..so sad just received the car from day one can feel the jerking..now i'm worried everytime when car slowed down and wan change car lane.. :confused:

btw my car is 2016 model eventhough just got it this month
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What's the condition for it to jerk?
As for my car, it jerk when I step the throttle 1/3 from stop, for few seconds and release.
Like driving 1st gear in manual and feel the jerking after immediate release of throttle.
But now it rarely happens because I try to avoid the jerk by changing my driving style.

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How about the rattling from the dashboard head unit?
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Previously was rattling at passenger side dashboard which has been solved.

For now I wasn't sure which part rattling, its a different sound thou... seems like from inside dashboard which I wasn't sure is from HU or Cluster meter, or inside steering... couldn't locate. Only appear in rare occasion like say maybe hot weather + uneven road?

QUOTE(hassansafdarali1 @ Feb 24 2017, 10:03 AM)
If i forget to lock my car after i leave ,  will iybe locked automatically?
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I think it depends, there is a few occasion where after off engine and walk away from the car at some distance, it will lock itself.
But if during the process you open another door or unlocking the car again, it seems like won't lock anymore...
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Seems like someone had a really Shiny car there

QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 24 2017, 12:07 PM)
try do this adapation process. Need to do a few times (3-5 times) as describe in the article

http://service.punchpowertrain.com/product...il1e/id/79.html
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Looks quite useful, I'll add this at 1st page

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Added  biggrin.gif
Seems like someone had a really Shiny car there
Looks quite useful, I'll add this at 1st page
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If you feel ur car is underpowered , might need do clutch adaption. smile.gif or else go SC say help me do clutch adaption, they have software to do it.
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Feb 24 2017, 09:10 PM)
If you feel ur car is underpowered , might need do clutch adaption.  smile.gif  or else go SC say help me do clutch adaption, they have software to do it.
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Oh... so its for underpower? not for CVT jerk?
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Winding up window at driver side , not smooth and shaking.
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What's the condition for it to jerk?
As for my car, it jerk when I step the throttle 1/3 from stop, for few seconds and release.
Like driving 1st gear in manual and feel the jerking after immediate release of throttle.
But now it rarely happens because I try to avoid the jerk by changing my driving style.
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It usually jerk on low speed <20km/h
Example when i was looking for parking and release the accelerator pedal i feel the jerk n sumtimes after that when i press back the accelerator pedal it will jerk..

At high speed >30km/h the car is stable
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It usually jerk on low speed <20km/h
Example when i was looking for parking and release the accelerator pedal i feel the jerk n sumtimes after that when i press back the accelerator pedal it will jerk..

At high speed >30km/h the car is stable
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check ur air filter. no more jerk after i changed to K&N Air Filter for my honda city .i think ur air filter is dirty

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Winding up window at driver side , not smooth and shaking.
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put on some power window lubricant..that should solve your problem.. the rubber is dry hence the friction..look for the lube in tesco mydin or any store
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p/s on the side note my car's exhaust sounded like a metal clunking inside it...went to sc for inspection n sc confirmed that my car is the first case..now will wait for hq to approve and change the whole exhaust assembly
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anyone know how to fix this..my bro play with my touch screen and go to touch screen tester mode..now dunno how to revert back to original..tried switching off/on the engine but still return back to this display
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update: issue resolved...guess i need off the engine and lock my car to turn off the touch screen completely to reset the system..

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Oh... so its for underpower? not for CVT jerk?
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Yup , is for underpowered if u feel your that in ur cars, then need clutch adaption. This also can prevent clutch premature or malfunction. biggrin.gif
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p/s on the side note my car's exhaust sounded like a metal clunking inside it...went to sc for inspection n sc confirmed that my car is the first case..now will wait for hq to approve and change the whole exhaust assembly
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interesting find. my manual proton saga vvt is having this rattling/pinging sound and I am not sure if it is coming from my engine due to pre-detonation or exhaust system somewhere loose (heat shield) or your issue.

Cause it sounds like metal clunking as well. Does it sound like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Kqu87j7FI&feature=youtu.be
You can hear it when i accelerate.

Let me know your feedback. Thanks!

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interesting find. my manual proton saga vvt is having this rattling/pinging sound and I am not sure if it is coming from my engine due to pre-detonation or exhaust system somewhere loose (heat shield) or your issue.

Cause it sounds like metal clunking as well. Does it sound like this?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Kqu87j7FI&feature=youtu.be 
You can hear it when i accelerate.

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nope... mine sounds like a piece of metal vibrated in the exhaust...the sound is only audible during engine braking or after rev
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Feb 25 2017, 09:38 PM)
Yup , is for underpowered if u feel your that in ur cars, then need clutch adaption. This also can prevent clutch premature or malfunction.  biggrin.gif
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Whole exhaust... how long that gonna take? Did they give courtesy car?
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Oh... mayb I should rephrase to underpower with CVT instead of CVT Jerk.. correct me if I'm wrong
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biggrin.gif Yup, two different thing. CVT Jerk due to the design of the CVT is wet clutch, I believe new persona less jerk in low end than saga flx cry.gif
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biggrin.gif Yup, two different thing. CVT Jerk due to the design of the CVT is wet clutch, I believe new persona less jerk in low end than saga flx  cry.gif
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Whole exhaust... how long that gonna take? Did they give courtesy car?
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i dont have to leave the car... its not a major problem....just annoying sound coming from the exhaust when it rattles... how long? that depends.. new case will take some time for approval
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For more information regarding Punch CVT Q & A which previously already discussed for VT2 and VT3 biggrin.gif

http://autoworld.com.my/forum/index.php?/t...-saga-exora-p3/
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just noticed another guy also facing similar issue on CVT jerk at low speed like me but he commented on wrong section d. Seems like a common issue?

I also just received my car last week and can feel the jerkyness..but the jerkyness seems reducing now after I have driven > 500km.. will continue to monitor this issue.
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just noticed another guy also facing similar issue on CVT jerk at low speed like me but he commented on wrong section d. Seems like a common issue?

I also just received my car last week and can feel the jerkyness..but the jerkyness seems reducing now after I have driven > 500km.. will continue to monitor this issue.
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Check the first page for the CVT adaptation procedures. Hope it helps
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Hi, anyone have encounter this problem?

Appear only when I stop and pull the handbrake.

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QUOTE(whatsup9891 @ Feb 26 2017, 09:41 PM)
Hi, anyone have encounter this problem?

Appear only when I stop and pull the handbrake.

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500km before service due will prompt this message as a reminder. Its common, no worries and they'll reset once the car has been serviced.
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QUOTE(riskbreaker @ Feb 26 2017, 05:08 PM)
Welcome and glad to see this thread active...again. good job zero5177 take initiative.

my first new car, love it very much. almost wait for 3 months baru get the car on last year end

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now still looking for the floor mat/car carpet, dash cam, seat cover?, and ah...what does it call? > cargo mat?/cargo organizer?
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Added and thanks for the support, any suggestions are welcome thumbsup.gif

Floor Mat you can have a custom made one from sh@rty5 which cover most of the floor and it has vecro tape for the front so it don't move around.

Dash Cam I just get a Xiaoyi Dashcam Black. Good FOV to cover all the windscreen and good quality too.

As for Boot tray I got it online for around RM80, worth to have one as it has a small partition to keep your tools there and prevent it coasting along the big boot thumbup.gif

Seat cover I just got 1 set just on the seat itself(not seat wrap) for front and rear seat from MR DIY, about RM50
What I don't like is the seat cover tends to move around when you in and out of the car even it says it has applied some anti-slip material
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 26 2017, 06:31 AM)
i dont have to leave the car... its not a major problem....just annoying sound coming from the exhaust when it rattles... how long? that depends.. new case will take some time for approval
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Its good to know it wasn't that serious... did they say what are the causes of this issue? Or just plainly defective parts...
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Anyone here using trapo floor mat ? is it nice as showing in the video ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc5fzXGLBMY
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QUOTE(Chinifity @ Feb 27 2017, 10:00 AM)
Anyone here using trapo floor mat ? is it nice as showing in the video ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc5fzXGLBMY
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i am using trapo floor mat (front and boot)
so far so good, i prefer this over coil mat, it is more easy to clean.
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 25 2017, 10:45 PM)
nope... mine sounds like a piece of metal vibrated in the exhaust...the sound is only audible during engine braking or after rev
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I m having this issue also, crackling sound when i accelerate. maybe loose bolt on the exhaust drum. Have no time to go SC for checking cry.gif
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Feb 27 2017, 10:13 AM)
Tried this
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Sorry I noob, what is this?
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 27 2017, 10:05 AM)
i am using trapo floor mat (front and boot)
so far so good, i prefer this over coil mat, it  is more easy to clean.
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Fixed size? or custom cut?
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 27 2017, 11:00 AM)
Fixed size? or custom cut?
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it is new persona's custom size. it fits nicely smile.gif
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 27 2017, 11:14 AM)
it is new persona's custom size. it fits nicely smile.gif
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Oh myyyy..... So tempted! What's the damage?
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Oh myyyy..... So tempted! What's the damage?
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I wonder if anyone did paint protection?
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 26 2017, 03:38 PM)
That day I was trying to fix a scratch by toothpaste and a sponge, I think i over apply pressure and causing the paint coating damage.
How can I fix this? how much it would cost? please help.    cry.gif
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look for a good polish wax...refer to my post..it will fix it
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 26 2017, 10:12 PM)
Its good to know it wasn't that serious... did they say what are the causes of this issue? Or just plainly defective parts...
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they cant identify the cause...it may be the parts
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QUOTE(pakku_azrie @ Feb 27 2017, 12:01 PM)
they cant identify the cause...it may be the parts
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I am too afraid to do it myself unsure.gif
will sending car to polish/wax service helps? sorry im car noob.
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 27 2017, 12:03 PM)
I am too afraid to do it myself  unsure.gif
will sending car to polish/wax service helps? sorry im car noob.
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they can help to correct the paint...i know how it feels...happen to me also...
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 27 2017, 12:45 PM)
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https://www.trapomalaysia.com/car-mat/class...a-2016-present/

Stated here around RM190
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Guys I'm thinking on putting leather cover on my Persona's seat, any recommended shop? hows the price?
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Feb 27 2017, 10:13 AM)
Tried this
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biggrin.gif Ceratec is a nice thing, it works to protect urs engine or engine coating. They recommend mileage already 50k its worth to use it. smile.gif smile.gif
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TRAPO IS HAVING A PROMOTION FAST2!! rclxms.gif
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https://www.trapomalaysia.com/car-mat/class...a-2016-present/

Stated here around RM190
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Feb 26 2017, 09:58 PM)
500km before service due will prompt this message as a reminder. Its common, no worries and they'll reset once the car has been serviced.
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 27 2017, 02:07 PM)
I took the combo offer.
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How is the quality and do you like it? I'm thinking of buying coil mats, then I saw this and watched the promotional video. It looks like very good.
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TRAPO IS HAVING A PROMOTION FAST2!!  rclxms.gif
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...seems promo end edi..damn bye.gif bye.gif

guess i'll for another eounbd
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QUOTE(totorohui10 @ Feb 27 2017, 05:58 PM)
How is the quality and do you like it? I'm thinking of buying coil mats, then I saw this and watched the promotional video. It looks like very good.
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I like it because it is neat and easy to clean, get dry pretty fast.
coil mats usually trap hairs and sands.
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QUOTE(d8s @ Feb 27 2017, 10:38 AM)
I m having this issue also, crackling sound when i accelerate. maybe loose bolt on the exhaust drum. Have no time to go SC for checking  cry.gif
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Hi, will be great if you can record it as I am trying to diagnose my rattling noise when accelerating as well. Really unsure is it due to engine pre-detonation or from exhaust system :/
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Feb 27 2017, 06:53 PM)
...seems promo end edi..damn bye.gif  bye.gif

guess i'll for another eounbd
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The promotion 30% off is for the boot tray only... but priced 190 for a decent car matt is still pretty worth it.
I got my coil mat custom also need around 160, yet not the thickest coil mat yet
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Hey guys, just got my persona cvt premium last week and the mileage now is 300km+ still breaking in carefully. When i'm driving on a bumpy road the centre dashboard will start to rattle, besides that on the day of the delivery itself the reverse camera was faulty. Sent to sc this morning and they cant fix the problem ask me go to proton sc at sungai besi to fix it. Besdies that the cvt is quite jerky at lowspeeds and sometimes it will jerk quite hard plus the throttle response delay isnt very pleasant especially when u are trying accelerate from standstill on a slope. Is this normal? But nonetheless its a quiet and comfortable car and im satisfied with it after upgrading it from a saga 1.3 FL 4 speed auto.
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https://www.trapomalaysia.com/car-mat/class...a-2016-present/

Stated here around RM190
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omg, thanks for the link!! rclxms.gif
thanks zAciX for intro.... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Feb 27 2017, 07:27 PM)
I like it because it is neat and easy to clean, get dry pretty fast.
coil mats usually trap hairs and sands.
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Feb 27 2017, 10:33 PM)
Hey guys, just got my persona cvt premium last week and the mileage now is 300km+ still breaking in carefully. When i'm driving on a bumpy road the centre dashboard will start to rattle, besides that on the day of the delivery itself the reverse camera was faulty. Sent to sc this morning and they cant fix the problem ask me go to proton sc at sungai besi to fix it. Besdies that the cvt is quite jerky at lowspeeds and sometimes it will jerk quite hard plus the throttle response delay isnt very pleasant especially when u are trying accelerate from standstill on a slope. Is this normal? But nonetheless its a quiet and comfortable car and im satisfied with it after upgrading it from a saga 1.3 FL 4 speed auto.
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The CVT is clutch based so it requires engaging before the car moves which takes a few milliseconds. That and the throttle delay does need adapting to your driving style. It's normal though and more pronounced at traffic jams and standstill. I think the first page of this thread has the manual on how to adapt with the CVT.

Also, it's the first time I heard of the reverse cam issue with the Persona. Probably not a common problem though since I don't see it often with the Iriz.

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https://www.trapomalaysia.com/car-mat/class...a-2016-present/

Stated here around RM190
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I bought the DIY version because when I purchase still no have custom version for persona. so far so good, quality same as their advertise.
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QUOTE(Lez Pall @ Feb 27 2017, 11:55 PM)
The CVT is clutch based so it requires engaging before the car moves which takes a few milliseconds. That and the throttle delay does need adapting to your driving style. It's normal though and more pronounced at traffic jams and standstill. I think the first page of this thread has the manual on how to adapt with the CVT.

Also, it's the first time I heard of the reverse cam issue with the Persona. Probably not a common problem though since I don't see it often with the Iriz.
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Ah i see. Still not used to the throttle response haha but i guess only time will tell. Thanks for the tip. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
The reverse camera went into berserk mode when i put into reverse haha but sometimes it works perfectly fine.
And also this is the fuel consumption for around 60km+ driving 80% highway (85kmh cuz still breaking in) and 20% jam. So far so good cant wait to reach 1000k. Besides that i tried calling someone using the head unit in the car (bluetooth pairing with asus zenfone 2 ZE550Ml) and he said that i sounded like a robot and its not clear. I wonder where is the microphone in the car hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif


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Anyone done soundproofing persona yet? Is it worth it?

Thanks
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Feb 28 2017, 01:34 PM)
Ah i see. Still not used to the throttle response haha but i guess only time will tell. Thanks for the tip.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
The reverse camera went into berserk mode when i put into reverse haha but sometimes it works perfectly fine.
And also this is the fuel consumption for around 60km+ driving 80% highway (85kmh cuz still breaking in) and 20% jam. So far so good cant wait to reach 1000k. Besides that i tried calling someone using the head unit in the car (bluetooth pairing with asus zenfone 2 ZE550Ml) and he said that i sounded like a robot and its not clear. I wonder where is the microphone in the car  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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My sales guy told me the mic near speaker at the door. Not sure driver door only Or every door
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Feb 28 2017, 01:34 PM)
Ah i see. Still not used to the throttle response haha but i guess only time will tell. Thanks for the tip.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
The reverse camera went into berserk mode when i put into reverse haha but sometimes it works perfectly fine.
And also this is the fuel consumption for around 60km+ driving 80% highway (85kmh cuz still breaking in) and 20% jam. So far so good cant wait to reach 1000k. Besides that i tried calling someone using the head unit in the car (bluetooth pairing with asus zenfone 2 ZE550Ml) and he said that i sounded like a robot and its not clear. I wonder where is the microphone in the car  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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The car have good sound insulation, for the MIC you just shout like no one can hear you from outside and kasi Heavy Metal style
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QUOTE(nazovic @ Feb 28 2017, 01:49 PM)
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Oh Yes ,, i did it from brothers

8 RM / Meter used 12 meters

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boot no space of additional rubber ..

WORTH IT BRO biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mywingame @ Feb 28 2017, 01:54 PM)
The car have good sound insulation, for the MIC you just shout like no one can hear you from outside and kasi Heavy Metal style
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haha the louder i shout the the sound will become more blur
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Feb 28 2017, 01:34 PM)
Ah i see. Still not used to the throttle response haha but i guess only time will tell. Thanks for the tip.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
The reverse camera went into berserk mode when i put into reverse haha but sometimes it works perfectly fine.
And also this is the fuel consumption for around 60km+ driving 80% highway (85kmh cuz still breaking in) and 20% jam. So far so good cant wait to reach 1000k. Besides that i tried calling someone using the head unit in the car (bluetooth pairing with asus zenfone 2 ZE550Ml) and he said that i sounded like a robot and its not clear. I wonder where is the microphone in the car  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I notice the exe variant HU got a small hole at the corner near to the driver side...not sure that is the mic or hole to poke for manual eject CD.
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Feb 28 2017, 04:31 PM)
I notice the exe variant HU got a small hole at the corner near to the driver side...not sure that is the mic or hole to poke for manual eject CD.
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yea i noticed that as well! Will ask a technician about this at sc and update u guys on friday. Have any one been to proton sc at sungai besi chan sow lin? Hows the service there hmm.gif hmm.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Feb 28 2017, 05:22 PM)
yea i noticed that as well! Will ask a technician about this at sc and update u guys on friday. Have any one been to proton sc at sungai besi chan sow lin? Hows the service there  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  rclxm9.gif
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PROTON EDAR JALAN CHAN SOW LIN?
I did my service there too, i told them there is rattling at my handbrake, after service the problem is still occuring...
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PROTON EDAR JALAN CHAN SOW LIN?
I did my service there too, i told them there is rattling at my handbrake, after service the problem is still occuring...
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bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif My centre dashboard will rattle when im driving on a piece of bumpy road. Hope it doesn't get worse!
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PROTON EDAR JALAN CHAN SOW LIN?
I did my service there too, i told them there is rattling at my handbrake, after service the problem is still occuring...
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Oh and btw do u happen to know Mr Albert from proton edar chan sow lin?
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Oh and btw do u happen to know Mr Albert from proton edar chan sow lin?
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oh i dunno Mr Albert.
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Bros, dashboard rattling issues, how-to-fix, please see here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3925053/+500
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copied from the post for easier referencing

For head unit crackling sound especially during hot day can try to DIY this.

Insert 2 flat screw driver underneath and slowly pry it out. Apply force towards you and it will pop out.
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Once pop out becareful not to pull the whole thing out as there is a cable connected to the front panel. Detach it.
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Tape the surrounding area circled with electrical tape.
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Some ppl who had rattling sound inside may open up to check. Mine no rattle so i didnt check further.

Once you're done. Push it back to snap back. Remember to put back the connector before snap back the panel.

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Oh and btw do u happen to know Mr Albert from proton edar chan sow lin?
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Mr Albert is the manager there. Friendly chap.
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Feb 28 2017, 04:31 PM)
I notice the exe variant HU got a small hole at the corner near to the driver side...not sure that is the mic or hole to poke for manual eject CD.
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It is the mic - stated in the owner manual.
I've used it to call and answered call via bluetooth. The sound is good.
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During test drive, I asked the salesman about Proton famous Power Window Problem as often cited by car workshops and taxi drivers.

He said it comes with a lifetime* warranty. I then asked whether it's written in black and white. He admitted he is not sure.

Recently I went to PROTON EDAR JALAN CHAN SOW LIN for 1st service. Saw the poster on the Power Window lifetime warranty right above the service counter.

So, if others still mentioned about the problem, you can tell them off.

*lifetime here refers to the said part, not yours! Faham tak? Haha
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 28 2017, 06:06 PM)
copied from the post for easier referencing

For head unit crackling sound especially during hot day can try to DIY this.

Insert 2 flat screw driver underneath and slowly pry it out. Apply force towards you and it will pop out.
user posted image

Once pop out becareful not to pull the whole thing out as there is a cable connected to the front panel. Detach it.
user posted image
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Tape the surrounding area circled with electrical tape.
user posted image
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Some ppl who had rattling sound inside may open up to check. Mine no rattle so i didnt check further.

Once you're done. Push it back to snap back. Remember to put back the connector before snap back the panel.
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Wow thanks for the tips!
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Sad to see you people got so many free gifts.

Must complain to Human Rights Agency. It is my Rights to also get those free rats and cicaks!

If wife complain about rattles, can tell her about those free rats - that will surely make her shut-up.

If gf complain about cicaks sound, tell her it's mating call - IF you want to be charged for verbal sexual harassment!

What I got free are those loud tyres sounds. Absolutely Free or it's included in the selling price?
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Our car sounds like train when going up to 140kmh. Engine sound is really loud. And so far Max I tried is 160kmh only. Anyone hit 180 before?

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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Feb 28 2017, 07:16 PM)
During test drive, I asked the salesman about Proton famous Power Window Problem as often cited by car workshops and taxi drivers.

He said it comes with a lifetime* warranty. I then asked whether it's written in black and white. He admitted he is not sure.

Recently I went to PROTON EDAR JALAN CHAN SOW LIN for 1st service. Saw the poster on the Power Window lifetime warranty right above the service counter.

So, if others still mentioned about the problem, you can tell them off.

*lifetime here refers to the said part, not yours! Faham tak? Haha
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as per my understanding its 10 years warranty..it's stated in proton handbook when u get the car
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Feb 28 2017, 08:17 PM)
as per my understanding its 10 years warranty..it's stated in proton handbook when u get the car
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I remember the salesman told me is lifetime warranty.
And I also saw the poster on the wall at sg besi showroom
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Feb 28 2017, 07:59 PM)
Sad to see you people got so many free gifts.

Must complain to Human Rights Agency. It is my Rights to also get those free rats and cicaks!

If wife complain about rattles, can tell her about those free rats - that will surely make her shut-up.

If gf complain about cicaks sound, tell her it's mating call - IF you want to be charged for verbal sexual harassment!

What I got free are those loud tyres sounds. Absolutely Free or it's included in the selling price?
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 28 2017, 09:16 PM)
Our car sounds like train when going up to 140kmh. Engine sound is really loud. And so far Max I tried is 160kmh only. Anyone hit 180 before?
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180/190KMH pedal to the floor, manual.
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180/190KMH pedal to the floor, manual.
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Must be super loud . Lol
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I'm used to it already drove proton saga BLM before, 130KMH in blm = 180kmh in persona. I still can hear the radio though. set it up to level 20 volume.
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as per my understanding its 10 years warranty..it's stated in proton handbook when u get the car
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The poster in the SC is out-of-date? Or is it lifetime warranty means only 10 years as per the small prints?

When I told my regular mechanic that I'm buying the new Persona, the first thing he mentioned is the power window problem. That is why I asked the Salesman.

The public impression on Proton cars is bad. Or is it just my opinion?
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Feb 28 2017, 08:47 PM)
The poster in the SC is out-of-date? Or is it lifetime warranty means only 10 years as per the small prints?

When I told my regular mechanic that I'm buying the new Persona, the first thing he mentioned is the power window problem. That is why I asked the Salesman.

The public impression on Proton cars is bad. Or is it just my opinion?
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When I asked the salesrep why Proton car makan minyak, he told me to put the gear into N when stopping at traffic lights. D + brake will makan minyak. That's fair.

What about traffic jam? Will constantly putting the gear into N and then D and then N.... Will the gearbox koyak?
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Feb 27 2017, 10:33 PM)
Hey guys, just got my persona cvt premium last week and the mileage now is 300km+ still breaking in carefully. When i'm driving on a bumpy road the centre dashboard will start to rattle, besides that on the day of the delivery itself the reverse camera was faulty. Sent to sc this morning and they cant fix the problem ask me go to proton sc at sungai besi to fix it. Besdies that the cvt is quite jerky at lowspeeds and sometimes it will jerk quite hard plus the throttle response delay isnt very pleasant especially when u are trying accelerate from standstill on a slope. Is this normal? But nonetheless its a quiet and comfortable car and im satisfied with it after upgrading it from a saga 1.3 FL 4 speed auto.
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u guys book ur 100km service from the proton app there go to service booking?
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u guys book ur 100km service from the proton app there go to service booking?
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I used the proton app for the 1000km booking. They will call you within 3 days to confirm the booking date. You need to tell them the car problems (if any) so that they can arrange a better date if necessary. Normal service targeted time is 1.5 hours in SC Chan Sow Lin.

IMHO, Mon, Sat and Sundays are always very busy days. Fridays the working hours are shorter.
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Feb 28 2017, 07:59 PM)
Sad to see you people got so many free gifts.

Must complain to Human Rights Agency. It is my Rights to also get those free rats and cicaks!

If wife complain about rattles, can tell her about those free rats - that will surely make her shut-up.

If gf complain about cicaks sound, tell her it's mating call - IF you want to be charged for verbal sexual harassment!

What I got free are those loud tyres sounds. Absolutely Free or it's included in the selling price?
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The loud tyres noise is the tire itself according to those who changed to a new set of tire... forgot what brand

U rugi lah didn't get those freebies... but its ok... not everyone love freebies, they'll doubt its reliability if given freebies brows.gif
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Seems useful, I shall add it to the front thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Feb 28 2017, 08:32 PM)
180/190KMH pedal to the floor, manual.
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190 still can go further?
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How would you guys compare persona level of NVH to honda city? Same level or how
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How would you guys compare persona level of NVH to honda city? Same level or how
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I never try before so couldn't comment much.

But based on what I read here it is comparable to Honda city especially using the same type of tire, minus those rattling noise (if you unlucky)
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How would you guys compare persona level of NVH to honda city? Same level or how
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Compare with vios before, vios nvh is much better. Persona nvh become very bad once speed exceeds 80km/h.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Feb 28 2017, 08:16 PM)
Our car sounds like train when going up to 140kmh. Engine sound is really loud. And so far Max I tried is 160kmh only. Anyone hit 180 before?
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Use ceratec. Work for me. Engine so quiet
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190 still can go further?
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I don't think so, that's the max the car can go. Wouldn't recommend to test the speed limit in highway but if any of you guys want to do it, do it when people on holiday or pagi2 buta. Not many car on the road plus you need total control, pass 160km/h the car would be total wobbly mainly because of the car's height and also the bawah clearance too big.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 1 2017, 05:53 AM)
I don't think so, that's the max the car can go. Wouldn't recommend to test the speed limit in highway but if any of you guys want to do it, do it when people on holiday or pagi2 buta. Not many car on the road plus you need total control, pass 160km/h the car would be total wobbly mainly because of the car's height and also the bawah clearance too big.
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Are you using stock tyres? For me at 160km/h it felt like the car is slippery than wobbly.
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Also I was bored so I did some calculations based on this website few days ago:
http://lynspira.blogspot.my/2014/05/gear-ratio.html

This is for manual gear and stock tyres and rims:
@3000rpm the speed is 102.9km/h
@5000rpm - 171.5km/h
@5500rpm - 188.6km/h
@5750rpm - 197.2km/h
@6000rpm - 205.8km/h

And based on Boss262 the max we can push is at ~5500rpm.

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Oh Yes ,, i did it from brothers

8 RM / Meter used 12 meters

40 ringit labour

boot no space of additional rubber ..

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 1 2017, 06:53 AM)
I don't think so, that's the max the car can go. Wouldn't recommend to test the speed limit in highway but if any of you guys want to do it, do it when people on holiday or pagi2 buta. Not many car on the road plus you need total control, pass 160km/h the car would be total wobbly mainly because of the car's height and also the bawah clearance too big.
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I personally dont see a point of even testing that just for the sake of seeing how fast the car can go.The need requiring such speed (provided conditions are favorable) is almost nil unless one is evading the law / police car chase LOL.

Whats next after finding out the conclusion:

good: yeah wow my ride is powerful (ego boosted?)
bad: oh dear the whole thing falling apart when I go 180kmh. (does it matter at all? )
ugly: no chance comment (dead liao how to comment?)
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Plan to get the standard MT variant. My concerns are:

1. Only 2 speakers are fitted as stock. Will adding additional speakers (6x9) void the vehicle warranty?
2. Anyone experiencing crackling noise from BT audio streaming using iPhone 6S? I have this problem with my 15 y.o Waja (fitted with Exora's HU). Using AUX is just fine.
3. How's the audio quality of the stock single DIN HU?

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Hello, i found a weird phenomenon, when i put my phone inside the glove box (kotak penyimpanan) under dashboard and leave car, after 30minutes to 1hour, when i come back n ignite engine, the speaker will appear double sound, like 1sound sharp and soft , 1 appear normal, then the next day speaker normal again. already few times. mine is standard cvt, can anybody try to test? or anybody also faced this be4? thank
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QUOTE(tezukaryoma @ Mar 1 2017, 08:34 PM)
Hello, i found a weird phenomenon, when i put my phone inside the glove box (kotak penyimpanan) under dashboard and leave car, after 30minutes to 1hour, when i come back n ignite engine, the speaker will appear double sound, like 1sound sharp and soft , 1 appear normal, then the next day speaker normal again. already few times. mine is standard cvt, can anybody try to test? or anybody also faced this be4? thank
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Is your phone bluetooth on? If on, the phone will auto connect with the head unit. The second sound is the echo sound. Off the bluetooth to conform whether this is the cause.

It happened to me when I used the phone via bluetooth. Maybe the speaker volume is too loud causing the echo effect.
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QUOTE(jlyeow @ Mar 1 2017, 04:55 PM)
Plan to get the standard MT variant. My concerns are:

1. Only 2 speakers are fitted as stock. Will adding additional speakers (6x9) void the vehicle warranty?
2. Anyone experiencing crackling noise from BT audio streaming using iPhone 6S? I have this problem with my 15 y.o Waja (fitted with Exora's HU). Using AUX is just fine.
3. How's the audio quality of the stock single DIN HU?

Cheers all wink.gif
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1. According to SC, anything require modifying the wires will void the warranty.
2. No iphone, so can't comment...
3. To me the stock single din + speakers is miles better than Myvi original setup with 4 speakers. I'm quite satisfied with the sound quality even lack of 2 rear speakers, still much better than the Myvi one... The myvi I'm referring is 1st gen Myvi.
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Mr Albert is the manager there. Friendly chap.
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 1 2017, 09:23 PM)
Is your phone bluetooth on? If on, the phone will auto connect with the head unit. The second sound is the echo sound. Off the bluetooth to conform whether this is the cause.

It happened to me when I used the phone via bluetooth. Maybe the speaker volume is too loud causing the echo effect.
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No, i never on bluetooth on my phone, it will only happen if i put my phone inside the storage box and let it be there 30minutes to 1hour. then the 2nd sound appeared.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 1 2017, 05:53 AM)
I don't think so, that's the max the car can go. Wouldn't recommend to test the speed limit in highway but if any of you guys want to do it, do it when people on holiday or pagi2 buta. Not many car on the road plus you need total control, pass 160km/h the car would be total wobbly mainly because of the car's height and also the bawah clearance too big.
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That's not too great to hear. My Persona Elegance doing 190 km/h planted...even on bends. sad.gif

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 1 2017, 01:29 PM)
I personally dont see a point of even testing  that just for the sake of seeing how fast the car can  go.The need requiring such speed (provided conditions are favorable)  is almost nil unless one is evading the law / police car chase  LOL.

Whats next after finding out the conclusion:

good: yeah wow my ride is powerful (ego boosted?)
bad: oh dear the whole thing falling apart  when I go 180kmh. (does it matter at all?  )
ugly: no chance comment (dead liao how to comment?)
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Of course we should not advocate driving over the speed limit. But then, it's an indication of a car's speed headroom. If it's stable at high speed, it's also far more stable at medium speed etc.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 1 2017, 09:41 PM)
1. According to SC, anything require modifying the wires will void the warranty.
2. No iphone, so can't comment...
3. To me the stock single din + speakers is miles better than Myvi original setup with 4 speakers. I'm quite satisfied with the sound quality even lack of 2 rear speakers, still much better than the Myvi one... The myvi I'm referring is 1st gen Myvi.
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Thanks for replying mate.

Just wonder if 2 rear speakers (6x9) are installed at the rear parcel shelf (or rear doors) could hide from the SC's prying eyes? tongue.gif I enjoy listening to songs whenever I drive so i'm more particular with the audio quality but not up to the extend of investing thousands into ICE.

And yes I agree with you on the Myvi's (1st gen) audio setup, it's so mediocre. puke.gif

Do you think the Exora's double DIN HU can fit to the Persona without modding the wires (just plug and play)?

Cheers. smile.gif
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 1 2017, 11:53 PM)
That's not too great to hear. My Persona Elegance doing 190 km/h planted...even on bends. sad.gif
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We are comparing 2 different segment car right here, old persona more wider, and also the ground clearance is far more less than persona. if you want more stability, need to sacrifice comfort, once you potong spring no more comfort but more stability in high speed.
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QUOTE(jlyeow @ Mar 2 2017, 10:33 AM)
Thanks for replying mate.

Just wonder if 2 rear speakers (6x9) are installed at the rear parcel shelf (or rear doors) could hide from the SC's prying eyes?  tongue.gif  I enjoy listening to songs whenever I drive so i'm more particular with the audio quality but not up to the extend of investing thousands into ICE.

And yes I agree with you on the Myvi's (1st gen) audio setup, it's so mediocre.  puke.gif

Do you think the Exora's double DIN HU can fit to the Persona without modding the wires (just plug and play)?

Cheers.  smile.gif
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Exore HU even with 2 dins have the same function as persona's 2 din. Using 1 din HU, i know make the interior of the car feels empty but on the bright sight, extra room for handphone XD
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Anyone tried or plan to put up a Voltage Stabilizer & grounding cables?
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 2 2017, 12:54 PM)
We are comparing 2 different segment car right here, old persona more wider, and also the ground clearance is far more less than persona. if you want more stability, need to sacrifice comfort, once you potong spring no more comfort but more stability in high speed.
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Yes old Persona has lower center of gravity. But I compare them because they are the same price bracket. Just wondering if it's worth to replace it with new Persona.

Not necessarily so. Some cars do have better comfort (ride) and also stability (handling). But at this price point, there's no option left lol.
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wanna ask about car fc, full tank (approx RM80) for 420km, good or bad?
mine is MT. 70% city driving.
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wanna ask about car fc, full tank (approx RM80) for 420km, good or bad?
mine is MT. 70% city driving.
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thats pretty bad . 12km/l ? even my Proton Wira can get better than this ....are u sure about that ?
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thats pretty bad . 12km/l ? even my Proton Wira can get better than this ....are u sure about that ?
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most probably my manual driving skills is bad. sad.gif i've just drive for a month.

i pump full tank when it starts blinking, usually around 75-80. by the time i pump petrol, it is average 420km.

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Actually happen to my car too. I tried to calculate the price per km and compare to the dashboard liter per km , I found out they don't match. So I thought my car fc is bad. Then I went to sg besi 3s Centre and ask them to check. The foreman there also notice something wrong after checking. He told me seems like the sensor not very accurate. They added a bottle of fuel treatment for me and ask me to try again for a week then see if this has improved. If not, then go back and they need to open the dashboard or the fuel sensor.

So I think it's the sensor not giving right reading.
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Just bought the new persona 1.6 Standard... currently in 450+KM,
anyone having this issues?
1)Car jerking at low gear, speed around 0-20km/hr.
2)Delayed car movement, rpm rev up but car doesn't move, sometimes move at 1000rpm (Breaking around 750rpm... unbreak goes to 1000rpm).. sometimes at 1500rpm(when light gas pedal)... sometimes the whole car doesn't even moved when the engine is screaming at 2000rpm(hard gas pedal).... same goes to reverse gear....

My only logical explanation,
1)The lost of power could be due to electrical stability/current/voltage issues when engine rev up took power and gear losing engagement.
(Anyone tried with grounding cables/voltage stabilizer?...does it void car warranty?)

2)The ECU unit is badly tuned where most cars would had (Gas Pedal>Gear engagement>Engine Rev).... whereas the persona might have (Gas pedal>Engine Rev>Gear engagement).... (Anyone tried ECU tuning before? How much would it cost? Will it void car warranty?)
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 1 2017, 01:29 PM)
I personally dont see a point of even testing  that just for the sake of seeing how fast the car can  go.The need requiring such speed (provided conditions are favorable)  is almost nil unless one is evading the law / police car chase  LOL.

Whats next after finding out the conclusion:

good: yeah wow my ride is powerful (ego boosted?)
bad: oh dear the whole thing falling apart  when I go 180kmh. (does it matter at all?  )
ugly: no chance comment (dead liao how to comment?)
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Well said. For those who want to know the car power, this is the paste and cut from motoring-malaysia.blogspot.my -

"We even managed to hit 200km/h on a downhill bit slipstreaming the lead car (an Inspira 2.0). It would max out somewhere close to 190kmh which is quite normal for a 1.6liter car with an automatic (CVT) transmission with a certain amount of horsepower and torque."

I hope admin won't delete this post because it would be sad to see our friends here got killed just to prove the car power.

Last year my neighbor son got killed because he likes to speed, leaving behind 2 young kids and a wife who doesn't look very employable. Now grandpa needs to continue working to support the extra mouths. In a way, it is lucky that the son got killed on the spot. You think it is funny to be paralyzed or be minced?

Old goat here been driving for 40 years. Only got a few bumper kissing - only once by me!

Remember - you die never mind but don't hurt others.

Lastly, I would like to add to the good, bad and ugly -

Worst: be paralyzed or be minced and then spend his/her time here telling us not to speed. Haha!
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 2 2017, 02:35 PM)
Actually happen to my car too. I tried to calculate the price per km and compare to the dashboard liter per km , I found out they don't match. So I thought my car fc is bad. Then I went to sg besi 3s Centre and ask them to check. The foreman there also notice something wrong after checking. He told me seems like the sensor not very accurate. They added a bottle of fuel treatment for me and ask me to try again for a week then see if this has improved. If not, then go back and they need to open the dashboard or the fuel sensor.

So I think it's the sensor not giving right reading.
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Bro. Almost all cars FC calculation is not accurate as it takes an average of multiple readings for an unknown time. All I can say is the accuracy will improve over time as more data is collected and your usage pattern will average the reading out.

Here we recommend manual calculation.
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 2 2017, 03:23 PM)
wanna ask about car fc, full tank (approx RM80) for 420km, good or bad?
mine is MT. 70% city driving.
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ Mar 2 2017, 03:27 PM)
thats pretty bad . 12km/l ? even my Proton Wira can get better than this ....are u sure about that ?
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 2 2017, 03:31 PM)
most probably my manual driving skills is bad.  sad.gif  i've just drive for a month.

i pump full tank when it starts blinking, usually around 75-80. by the time i pump petrol, it is average 420km.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 2 2017, 03:35 PM)
Actually happen to my car too. I tried to calculate the price per km and compare to the dashboard liter per km , I found out they don't match. So I thought my car fc is bad. Then I went to sg besi 3s Centre and ask them to check. The foreman there also notice something wrong after checking. He told me seems like the sensor not very accurate. They added a bottle of fuel treatment for me and ask me to try again for a week then see if this has improved. If not, then go back and they need to open the dashboard or the fuel sensor.

So I think it's the sensor not giving right reading.
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 2 2017, 03:57 PM)
Bro. Almost all cars FC calculation is not accurate as it takes an average of multiple readings for an unknown time. All I can say is the accuracy will improve over time as more data is collected and your usage pattern will average the reading out.

Here we recommend manual calculation.
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Current odometer is around 450km.... and already refuelled and used up RM97.50 or 42.39Liter @RM2.3/Liter... on CVT
....thats 10.61km/Liter doh.gif rclxub.gif
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Current odometer is around 450km.... and already refuelled and used up RM97.50 or 42.39Liter @RM2.3/Liter... on CVT
....thats 10.61km/Liter  doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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fc got tat bad meh
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Mar 2 2017, 03:58 PM)
fc got tat bad meh
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if speed 150-160km/h , or full throttle when idle really that bad
try maintain Eco mode
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 2 2017, 03:31 PM)
most probably my manual driving skills is bad.  sad.gif  i've just drive for a month.

i pump full tank when it starts blinking, usually around 75-80. by the time i pump petrol, it is average 420km.
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I always fill in when the fuel meter blink, average RM50/21.74l. Can get 320KM with a left over 2 bar. I guess the driving style effect hows the fuel burnt. My driving style is always eco light green with a little bit naughty side when on highway. Why don't you try my style, it's a bit like an old man but hey you can save fuel.

Always stay on the left lane, because if you do this on right lane. High beam+horn will comes to you rclxm9.gif . When on static, 1st gear don't press kaw2 lightly press if you don't apply the minyak also can, 1st gear car can move then lightly press, change when rpm reach 2k or 2.5k. Second gear will drop to 1/1.5k rpm keep doing the same but this time let eco indicator help you.

Never over rev over 2.5k rpm, once you already biasa. Hearing engine noise already know when to shift or not.

Style like this i can get around 14.5KM/l ~ 16KM/l.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 2 2017, 07:34 PM)
I always fill in when the fuel meter blink, average RM50/21.74l. Can get 320KM with a left over 2 bar. I guess the driving style effect hows the fuel burnt. My driving style is always eco light green with a little bit naughty side when on highway. Why don't you try my style, it's a bit like an old man but hey you can save fuel.

Always stay on the left lane, because if you do this on right lane. High beam+horn will comes to you  rclxm9.gif . When on static, 1st gear don't press kaw2 lightly press if you don't apply the minyak also can, 1st gear car can move then lightly press, change when rpm reach 2k or 2.5k. Second gear will drop to 1/1.5k rpm keep doing the same but this time let eco indicator help you.

Never over rev over 2.5k rpm, once you already biasa. Hearing engine noise already know when to shift or not.

Style like this i can get around 14.5KM/l ~ 16KM/l.
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 2 2017, 03:03 PM)
Current odometer is around 450km.... and already refuelled and used up RM97.50 or 42.39Liter @RM2.3/Liter... on CVT
....thats 10.61km/Liter  doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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Cannot be la bro. Your car tank is only 40L. How to consume 42.39?
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Any standard variant owner installed additional speakers at the rear? If ANY:

1. Where did you install them? Rear doors or rear parcel shelf?
2. How are the additional wires connected to the HU? Cut wires or connected with ISO connector?

Please enlighten. Cheers. wink.gif
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 2 2017, 09:29 PM)
Cannot be la bro. Your car tank is only 40L. How to consume 42.39?
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I mean totaled fuel topped up is 42.39L, in multiple refueling la rclxs0.gif for 450KM Odometer.
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 2 2017, 02:31 PM)
most probably my manual driving skills is bad.  sad.gif  i've just drive for a month.

i pump full tank when it starts blinking, usually around 75-80. by the time i pump petrol, it is average 420km.
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Have your car reach 1k mileage yet? I feel my FC improving in each fuel up... currently clocked at 7k, not sure is because I'm more adapt to the MT or engine running in..

Like our Boss said, drive gently with eco-light to assist you. The best I had is 16.4 (full highway) and worst is 12.8 (speed 140-150 highway with some city mix with 4 person onboard)

The car is quite good at masking the acceleration especially the almost non-existence engine sound below 2k RPM makes you feel the car is not accelerating, while in fact it was accelerating normally, the same acceleration pace can be felt obviously in Myvi.

QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 2 2017, 11:41 PM)
I mean totaled fuel topped up is 42.39L, in multiple refueling la rclxs0.gif  for 450KM Odometer.
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Try calculate in each fuel up, this way you will get more accurate reading... multiple fuel up often lead to less accurate reading which I wasn't sure why...
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 2 2017, 02:48 PM)
Just bought the new persona 1.6 Standard... currently in 450+KM,
anyone having this issues?
1)Car jerking at low gear, speed around 0-20km/hr.
2)Delayed car movement, rpm rev up but car doesn't move, sometimes move at 1000rpm (Breaking around 750rpm... unbreak goes to 1000rpm).. sometimes at 1500rpm(when light gas pedal)... sometimes the whole car doesn't even moved when the engine is screaming at 2000rpm(hard gas pedal).... same goes to reverse gear....

My only logical explanation,
1)The lost of power could be due to electrical stability/current/voltage issues when engine rev up took power and gear losing engagement.
(Anyone tried with grounding cables/voltage stabilizer?...does it void car warranty?)

2)The ECU unit is badly tuned where most cars would had (Gas Pedal>Gear engagement>Engine Rev).... whereas the persona might have (Gas pedal>Engine Rev>Gear engagement).... (Anyone tried ECU tuning before? How much would it cost? Will it void car warranty?)
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For the CVT response you may try this CVT Adaption, some owner find this helpful.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=83794311

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I mean totaled fuel topped up is 42.39L, in multiple refueling la rclxs0.gif  for 450KM Odometer.
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First 1000 km FC really bad on mine, now my car clocking 10000km and fc maintain 6.5~7.0L/100km.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 3 2017, 01:28 AM)
Have your car reach 1k mileage yet? I feel my FC improving in each fuel up... currently clocked at 7k, not sure is because I'm more adapt to the MT or engine running in..

Like our Boss said, drive gently with eco-light to assist you. The best I had is 16.4 (full highway) and worst is 12.8 (speed 140-150 highway with some city mix with 4 person onboard)

The car is quite good at masking the acceleration especially the almost non-existence engine sound below 2k RPM makes you feel the car is not accelerating, while in fact it was accelerating normally, the same acceleration pace can be felt obviously in Myvi.
Try calculate in each fuel up, this way you will get more accurate reading... multiple fuel up often lead to less accurate reading which I wasn't sure why...
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Last refueled full tank was RM75/32.6L and ran total of 280KM on the meter,
one bar left on the fuel meter,
just refused to full tank again this morning at the same RM75/32.6L with the same BHP station to eliminate any inconsistancy.

BTW, my old 16year old wira, tried on all different fuel brands, and found out BHP have greater power and mileage than others,
anyone tested it out on New Persona?
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 2 2017, 02:51 PM)
Well said. For those who want to know the car power, this is the paste and cut from motoring-malaysia.blogspot.my -

"We even managed to hit 200km/h on a downhill bit slipstreaming the lead car (an Inspira 2.0). It would max out somewhere close to 190kmh which is quite normal for a 1.6liter car with an automatic (CVT) transmission with a certain amount of horsepower and torque."

I hope admin won't delete this post because it would be sad to see our friends here got killed just to prove the car power.

Last year my neighbor son got killed because he likes to speed, leaving behind 2 young kids and a wife who doesn't look very employable. Now grandpa needs to continue working to support the extra mouths. In a way, it is lucky that the son got killed on the spot. You think it is funny to be paralyzed or be minced?

Old goat here been driving for 40 years. Only got a few bumper kissing - only once by me!

Remember - you die never mind but don't hurt others.

Lastly, I would like to add to the good, bad and ugly -

Worst: be paralyzed or be minced and then spend his/her time here telling us not to speed. Haha!
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I'd go with this too. IMHO, pointless pushing a car that's not really meant to be taken past its 'comfort zone'.
Stats & figures don't mean anything especially with a stock 'family-friendly' sedan.
Each to his own, I guess. blink.gif

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QUOTE(LedZepp67 @ Mar 3 2017, 02:20 PM)
I'd go with this too. IMHO, pointless pushing a car that's not really meant to be taken past its 'comfort zone'.
Stats & figures don't mean anything especially with a stock 'family-friendly' sedan.
Each to his own, I guess. blink.gif

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oldgoat well said, but nowadays younger generation always tends to drive faster and faster, perhaps one reason is modern car's higher torque and hp, also the thought of there's abs, airbag, vsc, ebd protecting me...
could u imagine lady colleague in my office used to driving 140-150km/h on her way to damansara? those are not even straight highway for speeding (ala Elite, NS highway), but now she already changed after met some accident back then.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 3 2017, 06:00 PM)
oldgoat well said, but nowadays younger generation always tends to drive faster and faster, perhaps one reason is modern car's higher torque and hp, also the thought of there's abs, airbag, vsc, ebd protecting me...
could u imagine lady colleague in my office used to driving 140-150km/h on her way to damansara? those are not even straight highway for speeding (ala Elite, NS highway), but now she already changed after met some accident back then.
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If old goat here driving 140-150km/h to damansara, old goat telur will surely hilang! Scared to die? Not really lah, only scare to get paralyzed and then have to employ maid to cuci buntu* (mine, not hers).

Kancil have all those ABC & XYZ things? Yet I see those cars speeding along the Sg Besi toll and Seremban toll. Like the Chinese saying- rushing to die!

Have you ever witnessed a fatal accident as it happened? Do you know the color of our brain spilled onto the road? Pink and it look like smashed watermelon!

I often drove inside the Smart Tunnel. Its speed limit is 50 or 60kph yet cars are speeding more than 100kph and some are also without their headlights on! Should we be good citizens and follow the limit and caused chain collision? So, I have no choice but to driove above the limit but not that high.
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 3 2017, 10:22 AM)
Last refueled full tank was RM75/32.6L and ran total of 280KM on the meter,
one bar left on the fuel meter,
just refused to full tank again this morning at the same RM75/32.6L with the same BHP station to eliminate any inconsistancy.

BTW, my old 16year old wira, tried on all different fuel brands, and found out BHP have greater power and mileage than others,
anyone tested it out on New Persona?
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Not sure thou... my fuel up since I got the car till now only once filled Petronas, the rest is using BHP because my credit card got 2% extra discounts by filling up BHP which also nearby my house
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Oh Yes ,, i did it from brothers

8 RM / Meter used 12 meters

40 ringit labour

boot no space of additional rubber ..

WORTH IT BRO biggrin.gif
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Can show/tell me which part of the car you did soundproof?

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Hi Guys!
Got my CVT Premium yesterday from Jalan Ampang showroom.
This is my first car and am very proud for that. However, I have a small problem. When I play songs over Bluetooth, the treble makes a bad screeching sound always. But when I'm Aux cable, no such sound and all perfect.
My phone plays Bluetooth over other speakers prefectly fine. Which makes me think that there must be something wrong with the Bluetooth receptors in my car?

Anyone can help me understand what this might be?

Thanks!
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Hi All. How much highest discount given by sc for Persona????
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Hi All. How much highest discount given by sc for Persona????
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i would like to know as well
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Fill in 26.8l Ron95 today,
Rawang ~ Batu Gajah Perak Highway
Batu Gajah ~ Rawang Old Road

Travelled 380KM, 2 bar left. Fuel estimation when filled in is around 34.28l, fuel left after travel 11.428l (2bar). 34.28l-11.428l = 22.852 fuel used.

380KM/22.852= 16.6KM/l

Can get a better figure when next service is perform. Currently clocked at 9.1K KM and I feel like the engine sound is harsh, maybe the oil changes is due.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 4 2017, 08:47 PM)
Fill in 26.8l Ron95 today,
Rawang ~ Batu Gajah Perak Highway
Batu Gajah ~ Rawang Old Road

Travelled 380KM, 2 bar left. Fuel estimation when filled in is around 34.28l, fuel left after travel 11.428l (2bar). 34.28l-11.428l = 22.852 fuel used.

380KM/22.852= 16.6KM/l

Can get a better figure when next service is perform. Currently clocked at 9.1K KM and I feel like the engine sound is harsh, maybe the oil changes is due.
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That's a quite good fuel effiency you got there. Which fuel station you went to?
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 4 2017, 08:47 PM)
Fill in 26.8l Ron95 today,
Rawang ~ Batu Gajah Perak Highway
Batu Gajah ~ Rawang Old Road

Travelled 380KM, 2 bar left. Fuel estimation when filled in is around 34.28l, fuel left after travel 11.428l (2bar). 34.28l-11.428l = 22.852 fuel used.

380KM/22.852= 16.6KM/l

Can get a better figure when next service is perform. Currently clocked at 9.1K KM and I feel like the engine sound is harsh, maybe the oil changes is due.
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omg.. I got rival to beat rclxub.gif

However I just fill up, got myself a 15.9km/l with 30% city and 70% highway
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 5 2017, 02:47 AM)
omg.. I got rival to beat  rclxub.gif

However I just fill up, got myself a 15.9km/l with 30% city and 70% highway
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15.9KM/l is quite good. I guess 17KM/l is achieveable if I'm not fooling around when going back home and also I was ferrying 4 full size adult including me, which make the car weight around 1.5 tonne.

QUOTE(Invader Zim @ Mar 4 2017, 11:31 PM)
That's a quite good fuel effiency you got there. Which fuel station you went to?
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From the start owning, always fill in at Petronas.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 5 2017, 07:57 AM)
15.9KM/l is quite good. I guess 17KM/l is achieveable if I'm not fooling around when going back home and also I was ferrying 4 full size adult including me, which make the car weight around 1.5 tonne.
From the start owning, always fill in at Petronas.
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Yeah.. I do feel FC is getting better..

by the way how's the acceleration of the car? Is it linear now?
mine it's still as good as the day I changed the stop switch lamp biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(nejordida @ Mar 4 2017, 12:37 PM)
Hi Guys!
Got my CVT Premium yesterday from Jalan Ampang showroom.
This is my first car and am very proud for that. However, I have a small problem. When I play songs over Bluetooth, the treble makes a bad screeching sound always. But when I'm Aux cable, no such sound and all perfect.
My phone plays Bluetooth over other speakers prefectly fine. Which makes me think that there must be something wrong with the Bluetooth receptors in my car?

Anyone can help me understand what this might be?

Thanks!
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Hi nejordida,

Are you using iPhone? i have the similar problem with my iPhone 6S playing on several car audio as well (via Bluetooth audio streaming). The treble end tends to distort and it's really annoying to the ears. It happens to my old Waja (using Exora double DIN HU) as well as some other friends' cars. So I end up playing those music through the AUX cable which is fine but have to bear with extra cable. However when I play the same thing on my house Bluetooth speakers (Philips), they played very well without that annoying distortion.

Seems like not many ppl are bothered with this issue, no? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 4 2017, 08:47 PM)
Fill in 26.8l Ron95 today,
Rawang ~ Batu Gajah Perak Highway
Batu Gajah ~ Rawang Old Road

Travelled 380KM, 2 bar left. Fuel estimation when filled in is around 34.28l, fuel left after travel 11.428l (2bar). 34.28l-11.428l = 22.852 fuel used.

380KM/22.852= 16.6KM/l

Can get a better figure when next service is perform. Currently clocked at 9.1K KM and I feel like the engine sound is harsh, maybe the oil changes is due.
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Don't understand how you calculate it. How did you get the 34.28L? And how do you know 2 bars represent 11.428L? From my experience with a few cars, the fuel sensor and gauge are not linear actually. The first few bars will last longer than the last few.

Anyway to get an accurate calculation, why don't you just fill up full tank again? That would be your fuel consumed for 380KM.
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hello, want to ask, is it when we press the esc off button, the light of esc off will ignite above the meter gauge there? because juz now nothing happen, no any indicator light on, when i press the esc off button.thanks
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hello, want to ask, is it when we press the esc off button, the light of esc off will ignite above the meter gauge there? because juz now nothing happen, no any indicator light on, when i press the esc off button.thanks
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by default = on and nothing will show
to off, press and hold, an indicator will show on your dashboard.
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hello, want to ask, is it when we press the esc off button, the light of esc off will ignite above the meter gauge there? because juz now nothing happen, no any indicator light on, when i press the esc off button.thanks
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The ESC is the traction control. If you off it and if the car break traction (skid), may God bliss you!
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The ESC is the traction control. If you off it and if the car break traction (skid), may God bliss you!
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i juz want to know y the light din ignite only, not plan to off.
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Guys, my car having this kruk kruk sound when im braking while slowing down, any one of you experienced this ?

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Guys, my car having this kruk kruk sound when im braking while slowing down, any one of you experienced this ?
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Did not experienced it.

But did you slammed onto the brake while slowing down? (Silly question)
If yes, then the ABS is working.
If not, bring the car to SC ASAP. Brake failure is no joke.
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i juz want to know y the light din ignite only, not plan to off.
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Good to hear that.

Our friend cheeshong already answered your question.
My reply is more directed to those itchy hands who thought ESC is like the one in our keyboard.

Minta maaf if I have offended you.
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 5 2017, 08:48 PM)
Good to hear that.

Our friend cheeshong already answered your question.
My reply is more directed to those itchy hands who thought ESC is like the one in our keyboard.

Minta maaf if I have offended you.
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You may call proton hotline if really urgent, there is a memo to fix this by proton when you service the car. Or get to nearest proton service centre to get them fixed tmr.
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QUOTE(tezukaryoma @ Mar 5 2017, 06:55 PM)
hello, want to ask, is it when we press the esc off button, the light of esc off will ignite above the meter gauge there? because juz now nothing happen, no any indicator light on, when i press the esc off button.thanks
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Yes, once the ESC is off, you will see the "Esc Off" lit at the meter cluster there. To turn it off you need to press and hold for a few seconds like say 3-5 seconds? It will activate back if you drive above certain speed, if not mistaken 90km/h
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QUOTE(jlyeow @ Mar 5 2017, 04:35 PM)
Hi nejordida,

Are you using iPhone? i have the similar problem with my iPhone 6S playing on several car audio as well (via Bluetooth audio streaming). The treble end tends to distort and it's really annoying to the ears. It happens to my old Waja (using Exora double DIN HU) as well as some other friends' cars. So I end up playing those music through the AUX cable which is fine but have to bear with extra cable. However when I play the same thing on my house Bluetooth speakers (Philips), they played very well without that annoying distortion.

Seems like not many ppl are bothered with this issue, no?  hmm.gif
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Hi jlyeow!
U r spot on bro! Mine is iPhone 6S too. I am using aux cable too. But there's a problem there as well. If I use the aux cable and put my phone on charge through one of he USB ports, there's a hissing noise... something like what u have when FM radio signal not available.
I'll try to change the aux cable first and then test it again.
But yeah, I agree with u, no one reported this problem before u and I 😝
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Just got my first 1000KM service, hopefully my fuel drinker of 8.6km/L gets better after this!!
1)Is all the items and pricing standard?
-Oil filter RM13.93
-ScreenWash 300ML RM6.69
-Petrol Treatment RM28
-Gasket-Plug-Oil-Drain RM3.05
-Petronas Semi (10W-40) 4Ltr RM118 (Shouldn't it be cheaper for Service Edar customer, RM100?)
Total RM169.67 + RM10.18GST = RM179.85

2)Shouldn't I service at 10k, 20k? How come they asked me to come back at 6k for service?

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QUOTE(nejordida @ Mar 6 2017, 11:29 AM)
Hi jlyeow!
U r spot on bro! Mine is iPhone 6S too. I am using aux cable too. But there's a problem there as well. If I use the aux cable and put my phone on charge through one of he USB ports, there's a hissing noise... something like what u have when FM radio signal not available.
I'll try to change the aux cable first and then test it again.
But yeah, I agree with u, no one reported this problem before u and I 😝
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Hi nejordida,

Finally someone from the same channel! laugh.gif

This treble distortion issue started when I was still with my iPhone 5 (playing on the same HU as the current one). However I don't have the hissing noise when it's on AUX cable so I suspect it could be due to poor quality AUX cable, or probably it's picking up those electrical disturbances. I do get some alternator whining noise when the AUX cable is not properly plugged in (to either HU or phone) and what I'd do is just simply shove it in and give it a good left-right twist and it's good to go.

Whenever my phone is on AUX and charging cable simultaneously (via car charger), I do get very minimal electrical buzzing noise but as soon as the music plays through, that noise just doesn't bother me much.

Try get a decent AUX cable and see if it's still picking up the unwanted noises.

Cheers. thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 6 2017, 12:20 PM)
Just got my first 1000KM service, hopefully my fuel drinker of 8.6km/L gets better after this!!
1)Is all the items and pricing standard?
-Oil filter RM13.93
-ScreenWash 300ML RM6.69
-Petrol Treatment RM28
-Gasket-Plug-Oil-Drain RM3.05
-Petronas Semi (10W-40) 4Ltr RM118
Total RM169.67 + RM10.18GST = RM179.85

2)Shouldn't I service at 10k, 20k? How come they asked me to come back at 6k for service?
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Nearly come to my 1000km, any recommendation on service center around PJ or KJ?

form this tread Rate Your Proton Service Center

its look like Senaxis is good, anyone been there?

Can walk in or need appointment?
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 6 2017, 12:20 PM)
Just got my first 1000KM service, hopefully my fuel drinker of 8.6km/L gets better after this!!
1)Is all the items and pricing standard?
-Oil filter RM13.93
-ScreenWash 300ML RM6.69
-Petrol Treatment RM28
-Gasket-Plug-Oil-Drain RM3.05
-Petronas Semi (10W-40) 4Ltr RM118 (Shouldn't it be cheaper for Service Edar customer, RM100?)
Total RM169.67 + RM10.18GST = RM179.85

2)Shouldn't I service at 10k, 20k? How come they asked me to come back at 6k for service?
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Because you opted for a semi synthetic engine oil.
Semi Synthetic engine oil has shorter working lifespan.
If you use fully synthetic, then it's 10,000km
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 6 2017, 03:11 PM)
Because you opted for a semi synthetic engine oil.
Semi Synthetic engine oil has shorter working lifespan.
If you use fully synthetic, then it's 10,000km
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I asked the Service Advisor when I tried to go for engine oil replacement @ 5K.
Their answer is that semi-synthetic engine oil can go max @ 10K ; while fully-synthetic can go beyond 10K.

Is this true, though?
Can anyone advise. Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 6 2017, 03:11 PM)
Because you opted for a semi synthetic engine oil.
Semi Synthetic engine oil has shorter working lifespan.
If you use fully synthetic, then it's 10,000km
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That's what we used to think. But if you look at the 2 or 3 years free service promo by Proton, it's not like that. The free service provides semi syn engine oil but service interval is 10k km. So how come that semi syn oil suddenly can last so long? wink.gif The reality is it does not need 5K interval service. The SC just silently wants to earn more money.
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 6 2017, 12:20 PM)
Just got my first 1000KM service, hopefully my fuel drinker of 8.6km/L gets better after this!!
1)Is all the items and pricing standard?
-Oil filter RM13.93
-ScreenWash 300ML RM6.69
-Petrol Treatment RM28
-Gasket-Plug-Oil-Drain RM3.05
-Petronas Semi (10W-40) 4Ltr RM118 (Shouldn't it be cheaper for Service Edar customer, RM100?)
Total RM169.67 + RM10.18GST = RM179.85

2)Shouldn't I service at 10k, 20k? How come they asked me to come back at 6k for service?
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1. Screen wash, petrol treatment not standard. Should opt out these two.

You oil 10W-40 or 10W-30? If 40, then it's old one, pricier. After this, insist the new one, your engine can take thinner 30 viscosity.

2. 10k, as per manual book say, mineral, semi, or full, all also 10k interval. Ignore the SC, they just want more money. I just serviced mine recently, despite using full synthetic, SC put sticker change at 5k mad.gif
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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Mar 6 2017, 03:17 PM)
I asked the Service Advisor when I tried to go for engine oil replacement @ 5K.
Their answer is that semi-synthetic engine oil can go max @ 10K ; while fully-synthetic can go beyond 10K.

Is this true, though?
Can anyone advise. Thanks  smile.gif
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it's true. But practically, is not a good practice actually.
First thing, the oil is inside our engine, noone knows the oil's condition after x km of run. You can't drain and see, you can't suck it up and see, the only thing you can see the oil is from the dipstick. As the engine oil is the only lubricant that maintains the engine's lifetime, it's a better practice to change it earlier rather than using until the life span limit of the engine oil. If you want to take care of your car's heart, you are recommended to do oil change before even reaching the service mileage. For example , 500km before your next service date. Some say rugi to service earlier but long term, you prolong your engine's lifespan.
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Anyone still got shift gear slow response issue for MT after more than 3k mileage?
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QUOTE(jlyeow @ Mar 6 2017, 12:24 PM)
Hi nejordida,

Finally someone from the same channel!  laugh.gif

This treble distortion issue started when I was still with my iPhone 5 (playing on the same HU as the current one). However I don't have the hissing noise when it's on AUX cable so I suspect it could be due to poor quality AUX cable, or probably it's picking up those electrical disturbances. I do get some alternator whining noise when the AUX cable is not properly plugged in (to either HU or phone) and what I'd do is just simply shove it in and give it a good left-right twist and it's good to go.

Whenever my phone is on AUX and charging cable simultaneously (via car charger), I do get very minimal electrical buzzing noise but as soon as the music plays through, that noise just doesn't bother me much.

Try get a decent AUX cable and see if it's still picking up the unwanted noises.

Cheers.  :thumbsup:
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Hi jlyeow,
I tried with a different, better quality (Phillips) aux cable and now it sounds better than before.

Thanks buddy!
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QUOTE(nejordida @ Mar 6 2017, 04:34 PM)
Hi jlyeow,
I tried with a different, better quality (Phillips) aux cable and now it sounds better than before.

Thanks buddy!
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Hi nejordida,

Good to hear that you've solved the AUX cable issue.

I read through several articles about the treble distortion issue via Bluetooth audio streaming. Some say you have to reduce the treble via the EQ in the phone setting. I have yet to try it hence I cannot comment much. Perhaps you can try it out? I'm gonna try mine this evening to see if it works.

Settings > Music > EQ > Treble Reducer

Good luck mate! wink.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 5 2017, 12:01 PM)
Yeah.. I do feel FC is getting better..

by the way how's the acceleration of the car? Is it linear now?
mine it's still as good as the day I changed the stop switch lamp  biggrin.gif
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Still the same as ever but I actually grow accustomed to it and learn how to drive to prevent power lost smile.gif

QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 5 2017, 06:34 PM)
Don't understand how you calculate it. How did you get the 34.28L? And how do you know 2 bars represent 11.428L? From my experience with a few cars, the fuel sensor and gauge are not linear actually. The first few bars will last longer than the last few.

Anyway to get an accurate calculation, why don't you just fill up full tank again? That would be your fuel consumed for 380KM.
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It's just the same basic concept like fill in and drive till your tank is empty but mine I don't have the strength to continue driving.
For the calculation 2 bar = 11.428l, for general assumption 40l/7bar (fuel bar), I know sometimes the bar represent aren't not consistent and accurate
but hey we won't know the correct accuracy unless we zeroed the tank and fill in from the start and then zeroed it back, I'm pretty sure proton has done this thing for us.
We can actually assume 95% of the correct estimation. There are some correction, corrected on the previous calculation.


Fuel Estimation when fill in,

Before Travel
26.8l fuel refill
5.714 fuel left before refill (1 bar left)
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32.514l total fuel

After Travel
32.514l total fuel
11.428l left after travel
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21.086l Used


Distance Travel 380KM/21.086l fuel used.
18.024 KM/l

It's seems good to be true though, I'll tested it again this week, going back to perak again this week will record everything on paper.
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 6 2017, 06:17 PM)
Still the same as ever but I actually grow accustomed to it and learn how to drive to prevent power lost smile.gif
It's just the same basic concept like fill in and drive till your tank is empty but mine I don't have the strength to continue driving.
For the calculation 2 bar = 11.428l, for general assumption 40l/7bar (fuel bar), I know sometimes the bar represent aren't not consistent and accurate
but hey we won't know the correct accuracy unless we zeroed the tank and fill in from the start and then zeroed it back, I'm pretty sure proton has done this thing for us.
We can actually assume 95% of the correct estimation. There are some correction, corrected on the previous calculation.
Fuel Estimation when fill in,

Before Travel
26.8l fuel refill
5.714 fuel left before refill (1 bar left)
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32.514l total fuel

After Travel
32.514l total fuel
11.428l left after travel
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21.086l Used
Distance Travel 380KM/21.086l fuel used.
18.024 KM/l

It's seems good to be true though, I'll tested it again this week, going back to perak again this week will record everything on paper.
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Too good to be true like I said the meter is not linear haha. But then I could be wrong because I don't own a Persona VVT yet. tongue.gif

Actually you don't need to empty the fuel tank to know how much you had used. Just fill up full tank and reset your trip mileage. On the next refill, fill up full tank again. The second refill volume is how much fuel you had used up in that trip. Divide your trip mileage with that volume = KM/L.

If you want even more accurate, make the fuel guns jump three times in each refill. tongue.gif at the same pump. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(akariitagami @ Mar 6 2017, 04:28 PM)
Anyone still got shift gear slow response issue for MT after more than 3k mileage?
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Any solution for it ?
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 2 2017, 11:41 PM)
I mean totaled fuel topped up is 42.39L, in multiple refueling la rclxs0.gif  for 450KM Odometer.
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Back then in my saga fl if the petrol tank is full the fuel will leak out. Will this happen to my persona also? I will pump my car once my range says 50km with fuel indicator blinking and i always pump Rm75 which is 32.6L of fuel. How much more can i pump without spilling fuel out of the tank? If thats possible. hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lawtm @ Mar 4 2017, 01:30 PM)
Hi All. How much highest discount given by sc for Persona????
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 6 2017, 05:00 PM)
1. Screen wash, petrol treatment not standard. Should opt out these two.

You oil 10W-40 or 10W-30? If 40, then it's old one, pricier. After this, insist the new one, your engine can take thinner 30 viscosity.

2. 10k, as per manual book say, mineral, semi, or full, all also 10k interval. Ignore the SC, they just want more money. I just serviced mine recently, despite using full synthetic, SC put sticker change at 5k  mad.gif
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They gave you 10W-30? At what price?
Oh wait..fully syn is 5W-30? What price?
Why the heck do they give me an older/pricer engine oil!!?? ranting.gif
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 6 2017, 10:39 PM)
They gave you 10W-30? At what price?
Oh wait..fully syn is 5W-30? What price?
Why the heck do they give me an older/pricer engine oil!!?? ranting.gif
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why say 10w40 is "older" engine oil?
10w40 and 10w30 different in the viscosity. There's no "new" or "old" meaning here.

New cars should use thinner viscosity, preferably 5w30 / 10w30
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 6 2017, 10:39 PM)
They gave you 10W-30? At what price?
Oh wait..fully syn is 5W-30? What price?
Why the heck do they give me an older/pricer engine oil!!?? ranting.gif
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New range got mineral 15W-40 costs RM75 excl GST.

10W-30 semi should cost RM100 excl GST.

Full syn 5W-30 costs RM180 excl GST.

Make sure next time they give you Syntium SE with Cooltech feature.

QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 6 2017, 10:48 PM)
why say 10w40 is "older" engine oil?
10w40 and 10w30 different in the viscosity. There's no "new" or "old" meaning here.

New cars should use thinner viscosity, preferably 5w30 / 10w30
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Find paul tan blog, late last year Proton launch with Petronas new Syntium SE (supposed to stand for Serviced at Edar as in Proton Edar) range with 3 choices I mentioned above. They're all API SN too. Also, they're said to only be available at Proton SC, so should not be that easily available outside.

10W-40 must be the older Syntium with API SM and no Cooltech feature.
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QUOTE(whatsup9891 @ Mar 6 2017, 12:42 PM)
Nearly come to my 1000km, any recommendation on service center around PJ or KJ?

form this tread Rate Your Proton Service Center

its look like Senaxis is good, anyone been there?

Can walk in or need appointment?
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If you have any issue need them to attend, I would suggest COSE at Shah Alam, normal oil change, any service centre should be ok.

QUOTE(akariitagami @ Mar 6 2017, 04:28 PM)
Anyone still got shift gear slow response issue for MT after more than 3k mileage?
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QUOTE(Chinifity @ Mar 6 2017, 09:09 PM)
Any solution for it ?
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I don't suffer such power lost anymore... acceleration is much linear now... some other part also due to I got accustomed to it on releasing the clutch for a more linear acceleration.. ofcourse if I release clutch too quick, I'll still feel the pull back, but this pull back also exist on my other ride if clutch released too quick. Atleast now going up hill I don't have to pedal down so much as compared to before I change the switch stop lamp rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Mar 6 2017, 08:24 PM)
Too good to be true like I said the meter is not linear haha. But then I could be wrong because I don't own a Persona VVT yet. tongue.gif

Actually you don't need to empty the fuel tank to know how much you had used. Just fill up full tank and reset your trip mileage. On the next refill, fill up full tank again. The second refill volume is how much fuel you had used up in that trip. Divide your trip mileage with that volume = KM/L.

If you want even more accurate, make the fuel guns jump three times in each refill. tongue.gif at the same pump. tongue.gif
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There were twice where the fuel overflow at just 1st click even I fixed the nozzle gauge at lowest pressure... that's why I never use the 3 clicks method before on this car sweat.gif

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 7 2017, 12:21 AM)


» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

There were twice where the fuel overflow at just 1st click even I fixed the nozzle gauge at lowest pressure... that's why I never use the 3 clicks method before on this car  sweat.gif
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In that case you just pump for 1 click in each refueling. tongue.gif The idea is just to get apple to apple comparison. Best is same station same pump. hahaha
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Very interested in this car, sweet price for what you get. Now going through this thread.
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Please use it for emergencies and when you panic .

Request Senior Members to join as well .

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I have booked my first 1km service this saturday at SC.

May i know if there is any charges that i need to pay or is it going to be free service as per promotion when i bought the car - my SA told me i will got 2 years free service
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Mar 7 2017, 06:18 PM)
I have booked my first 1km service this saturday at SC.

May i know if there is any charges that i need to pay or is it going to be free service as per promotion when i bought the car - my SA told me i will got 2 years free service
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no need to pay anything if u have free services.
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QUOTE(tat3406 @ Mar 7 2017, 07:08 PM)
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 6 2017, 12:20 PM)
Just got my first 1000KM service, hopefully my fuel drinker of 8.6km/L gets better after this!!
1)Is all the items and pricing standard?
-Oil filter RM13.93
-ScreenWash 300ML RM6.69
-Petrol Treatment RM28
-Gasket-Plug-Oil-Drain RM3.05
-Petronas Semi (10W-40) 4Ltr RM118 (Shouldn't it be cheaper for Service Edar customer, RM100?)
Total RM169.67 + RM10.18GST = RM179.85

2)Shouldn't I service at 10k, 20k? How come they asked me to come back at 6k for service?
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Hi, want to know whether the screen wash and petrol treatment are free? I didn't get these 2 items for my car 1st service in SC Chan Sow Lin, KL. The SA didn't mentioned them, he only asked whether I wanted to upgrade the oil which I declined.

Syntium 3000 SE (5W-30) = fully synthetic
Syntium 800 SE (10W-30) = semi-synthetic
Syntium 500 SE (15W-40) = mineral-based

For the free service, I got Syntium 800 SE 10W30 SN (RM100) + Oil Filter (RM13.93) + Gasket-Plug-Oil (RM3.05).

For the next service, my car reminder meter is set at 10K.
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Mar 7 2017, 04:07 PM)
Very interested in this car, sweet price for what you get. Now going through this thread.
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Good car! I've no regret getting it.

Actually, I wanted to buy Bezza for the advertised FC but wife hated it because it backside tonggek (jutting up)!

So, tested the Premium and fall in love with it but found out that it weighted more than 280kg compared with Bezza. For an extra 300cc, Premium needs to carry one quarter of a tonne more!

Lagi teruk, in the same B segment Vios and City are lighter by 100kg but their prices are much heavier. If other companies can make their cars light, Proton can only produce baby elephant???

If I am not mistaken, the Power to Weight Ratio has a bearing on the FC.
That is, it needs more fuel to move all those extra weigh around.

Persona MT is lighter by 55kg compared with Premium! To put it into perspective, against MT, Premium needs to carry 5.5 bags of 10kg rice everyday in the car boot!

I think FC wise, among the Persona variants, MT would be a better option. As for me, I bought the Std (lighter by 35kg) because after driving manual for so long, it would be nice to have a change.

Power to Weight Ratio wise (please let me know if I'm wrong), Persona FC won't be as good as others. So, keep an eye on the Eco Light to get better FC.
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If I not yet reach 10k KM for the second service, but the period set by the service center during 1st service is 13 May.

So I can go service after 13 May even my mileage not yet reach 10k KM also?

I heard some owner can't use the free service voucher (3 yrs free service) if the mileage not yet reach 10k KM, is that true?
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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Mar 7 2017, 09:26 PM)
If I not yet reach 10k KM for the second service, but the period set by the service center during 1st service is 13 May.

So I can go service after 13 May even my mileage not yet reach 10k KM also?

I heard some owner can't use the free service voucher (3 yrs free service) if the mileage not yet reach 10k KM, is that true?
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It is stated in the Warranty & Service booklet that periodical service maintenance is done at an interval of 10k KM or within 6 months (whichever occurs first).

I did asked the salesrep when I booked the car because I know mine can't reach 10k KM within 6 months.

My 1st service is done at only 600km and that after I purposely made a round trip to Melaka to put in more mileage to run-in the engine before the oil change.

Unless it is stated clearly that the 3 years free service voucher cannot be used if mileage didn't reach 10k KM, Proton will be looking for free publicity!
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 7 2017, 09:26 PM)
Hi, want to know whether the screen wash and petrol treatment are free? I didn't get these 2 items for my car 1st service in SC Chan Sow Lin, KL. The SA didn't mentioned them, he only asked whether I wanted to upgrade the oil which I declined.

Syntium 3000 SE (5W-30) = fully synthetic
Syntium 800 SE (10W-30) = semi-synthetic
Syntium 500 SE (15W-40) = mineral-based

For the free service, I got Syntium 800 SE 10W30 SN (RM100) + Oil Filter (RM13.93) + Gasket-Plug-Oil (RM3.05).

For the next service, my car reminder meter is set at 10K.
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No, the screen wash and Petrol Treatment are not free.

After you did your 1000km service, feel any different? Fuel mileage?

Mine after they changed to the old 10w-40 Semi, engine feels heavy and sluggished, doesn't rev as easily, gas pedal to rev responses slower.
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sifu..what is the function of this car skid symbol ar..the light is always on whenever i on my car and when i press on the button also this symbol light still remain on.. confused.gif confused.gif

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sifu..what is the function of this car skid symbol ar..the light is always on whenever i on my car and when i press on the button also this symbol light still remain on..  confused.gif  confused.gif

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U mean the light on the button or the light at the speedometer? The car skid symbol is the stability control if im not mistaken and its to help you gain back control of ur car when ur car loses traction/grip Under normal operating condition the stability control will not light up on the speedometer unless u turn it off. From the picture u posted it seems that everything is normal, stability control is not switched off. cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 7 2017, 10:26 PM)
U mean the light on the button or the light at the speedometer? The car skid symbol is the stability control if im not mistaken and its to help you gain back control of ur car when ur car loses traction/grip  Under normal operating condition the stability control will not light up on the speedometer unless u turn it off. From the picture u posted it seems that everything is normal, stability control is not switched off.  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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i mean light at the button there..the light is like never off even when i press on the button...make me worried only not knowing it's on or off.. console.gif




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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Mar 7 2017, 10:42 PM)
i mean light at the button there..the light is like never off even when i press on the button...make me worried only not knowing it's on or off.. console.gif
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hmmmm i think the light at the button will turn on when u turn on ur lampu kete. If u didnt on ur lampu kete but the light in the button is still on then i guess u have to send ur car to sc to let them check what is the problem rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Just got my first 1000KM service, hopefully my fuel drinker of 8.6km/L gets better after this!!
1)Is all the items and pricing standard?
-Oil filter RM13.93
-ScreenWash 300ML RM6.69
-Petrol Treatment RM28
-Gasket-Plug-Oil-Drain RM3.05
-Petronas Semi (10W-40) 4Ltr RM118 (Shouldn't it be cheaper for Service Edar customer, RM100?)
Total RM169.67 + RM10.18GST = RM179.85

2)Shouldn't I service at 10k, 20k? How come they asked me to come back at 6k for service?
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Im planning to send my car for the 1000k service. Where did you service your car and how long did it take to service your car? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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[quote=zero5177,Mar 7 2017, 12:21 AM]
If you have any issue need them to attend, I would suggest COSE at Shah Alam, normal oil change, any service centre should be ok.
I don't suffer such power lost anymore... acceleration is much linear now... some other part also due to I got accustomed to it on releasing the clutch for a more linear acceleration.. ofcourse if I release clutch too quick, I'll still feel the pull back, but this pull back also exist on my other ride if clutch released too quick. Atleast now going up hill I don't have to pedal down so much as compared to before I change the switch stop lamp rclxm9.gif

Just feeling there's no power lost anymore even never change anything...much more smoother glad to know not just me
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Mar 7 2017, 10:42 PM)
i mean light at the button there..the light is like never off even when i press on the button...make me worried only not knowing it's on or off.. console.gif
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To determine on or off, you have to look at the meter cluster instead of the button you highlighted.

At the meter cluster you can see if you turned off the Stability Control with orange like lit exactly the same logo shown at the button with the "Off" words

At the same time, the meter cluster also will show when the stability control actually kicked in when you lose traction, there will be another light lit similar to the button but without the "Off" words
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[quote=akariitagami,Mar 7 2017, 11:38 PM]
[quote=zero5177,Mar 7 2017, 12:21 AM]
If you have any issue need them to attend, I would suggest COSE at Shah Alam, normal oil change, any service centre should be ok.
I don't suffer such power lost anymore... acceleration is much linear now... some other part also due to I got accustomed to it on releasing the clutch for a more linear acceleration.. ofcourse if I release clutch too quick, I'll still feel the pull back, but this pull back also exist on my other ride if clutch released too quick. Atleast now going up hill I don't have to pedal down so much as compared to before I change the switch stop lamp rclxm9.gif

Just feeling there's no power lost anymore even never change anything...much more smoother glad to know not just me
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Its good to hear you have no complaints with your car thumbsup.gif
You may proceed to any SC for the oil change, before confirming at the counter, pls confirm with them what is compulsory and what's not (like fuel treatment is optional)
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Guys, I've seen a few shots that showing the RPM meter idling at around 700 to 800rpm... meanwhile mine usually idling around 900-1000... is it because mine was MT?
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What is the CVT rpm at 110kph?
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 7 2017, 09:04 PM)
Good car! I've no regret getting it.

Actually, I wanted to buy Bezza for the advertised FC but wife hated it because it backside tonggek (jutting up)!

So, tested the Premium and fall in love with it but found out that it weighted more than 280kg compared with Bezza. For an extra 300cc, Premium needs to carry one quarter of a tonne more!

Lagi teruk, in the same B segment Vios and City are lighter by 100kg but their prices are much heavier. If other companies can make their cars light, Proton can only produce baby elephant???

If I am not mistaken, the Power to Weight Ratio has a bearing on the FC.
That is, it needs more fuel to move all those extra weigh around.

Persona MT is lighter by 55kg compared with Premium! To put it into perspective, against MT, Premium needs to carry 5.5 bags of 10kg rice everyday in the car boot!

I think FC wise, among the Persona variants, MT would be a better option. As for me, I bought the Std (lighter by 35kg) because after driving manual for so long, it would be nice to have a change.

Power to Weight Ratio wise (please let me know if I'm wrong), Persona FC won't be as good as others. So, keep an eye on the Eco Light to get better FC.
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Bezza is smaller car, so it is lighter. normally Japanese and Perodua car will cut the material of the car to reduce the weight, these will sacrifice some safety.
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QUOTE(tat3406 @ Mar 8 2017, 09:37 AM)
Bezza is smaller car, so it is lighter. normally Japanese and Perodua car will cut the material of the car to reduce the weight, these will sacrifice some safety.
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Even so, persona comparable to Vios and City, yet still 100kg heavier.

Bezza's crash test showed it scores better than Persona/iriz. Some may say it's a bit of a cheat as lightweight = less momentum, therefore better score performance, but I dunno lar, the data is there.
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 7 2017, 09:04 PM)
Good car! I've no regret getting it.

Actually, I wanted to buy Bezza for the advertised FC but wife hated it because it backside tonggek (jutting up)!

So, tested the Premium and fall in love with it but found out that it weighted more than 280kg compared with Bezza. For an extra 300cc, Premium needs to carry one quarter of a tonne more!

Lagi teruk, in the same B segment Vios and City are lighter by 100kg but their prices are much heavier. If other companies can make their cars light, Proton can only produce baby elephant???

If I am not mistaken, the Power to Weight Ratio has a bearing on the FC.
That is, it needs more fuel to move all those extra weigh around.

Persona MT is lighter by 55kg compared with Premium! To put it into perspective, against MT, Premium needs to carry 5.5 bags of 10kg rice everyday in the car boot!

I think FC wise, among the Persona variants, MT would be a better option. As for me, I bought the Std (lighter by 35kg) because after driving manual for so long, it would be nice to have a change.

Power to Weight Ratio wise (please let me know if I'm wrong), Persona FC won't be as good as others. So, keep an eye on the Eco Light to get better FC.
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Yes it's true Proton cars tend to be heavier. Yes of course it affects the FC.

But why you bother about the weight due to FC? I don't think choosing an import brand car just due to FC alone is a better deal. The car price different is really too much and easily offset the FC. E.g. Persona Premium is 60k. City V spec 92k. With RM32k...it can supply you 13.9k Litres of fuel.... that's 195k km of distance if I assume Persona can run 14km/L. sweat.gif Assuming you travel 2k km per mth, that's around 97.5 months worth of fuel.

QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 02:37 PM)
Even so, persona comparable to Vios and City, yet still 100kg heavier.

Bezza's crash test showed it scores better than Persona/iriz. Some may say it's a bit of a cheat as lightweight = less momentum, therefore better score performance, but I dunno lar, the data is there.
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Well, that's true because the car was crashing into the designated wall. What if another car crashed into Bezza? I'm sure the result will be different.
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Well, that's true because the car was crashing into the designated wall. What if another car crashed into Bezza? I'm sure the result will be different.
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 02:37 PM)
Even so, persona comparable to Vios and City, yet still 100kg heavier.

Bezza's crash test showed it scores better than Persona/iriz. Some may say it's a bit of a cheat as lightweight = less momentum, therefore better score performance, but I dunno lar, the data is there.
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Yes, Bezza get slightly more score from the crash test. But in real accident you can't expect collision is exactly the same as lab tested even lab is trying to simulate most collision from real world.

The Persona's HPF is no joke tbh, even the Mitsubishi Triton do not have any parts that can withstand 1500Mpa like the one adopted by Persona, well, I'm not saying head on Persona Vs Triton and Triton will lose, just to tell that the HPF adopted in Persona made the chasis very solid that not much competitor get to beat.

Especially involved in an accident that is serious than the lab tested situation, Persona should have high chance of survival compared to Bezza.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2017, 12:29 AM)
Guys, I've seen a few shots that showing the RPM meter idling at around 700 to 800rpm... meanwhile mine usually idling around 900-1000... is it because mine was MT?
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Mine idling at 1000 too
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QUOTE(mywingame @ Mar 8 2017, 03:09 PM)
Yes, Bezza get slightly more score from the crash test. But in real accident you can't expect collision is exactly the same as lab tested even lab is trying to simulate most collision from real world.

The Persona's HPF is no joke tbh, even the Mitsubishi Triton do not have any parts that can withstand 1500Mpa like the one adopted by Persona, well, I'm not saying head on Persona Vs Triton and Triton will lose, just to tell that the HPF adopted in Persona made the chasis very solid that not much competitor get to beat.

Especially involved in an accident that is serious than the lab tested situation, Persona should have high chance of survival compared to Bezza.
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https://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/are-smal...large-cars.html

Well, I guess this made sense, it's only comparable to same segment.

In any case, it doesn't look nice on Saga VVT to be defeated by Bezza.

Meanwhile, Persona yet tested, but if take Iriz scores, still lose to Jazz in adult occupant, but gain back in child occupant.

http://www.aseancap.org/honda-jazz/
http://www.aseancap.org/proton-iriz/
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 03:33 PM)
https://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/are-smal...large-cars.html

Well, I guess this made sense, it's only comparable to same segment.

In any case, it doesn't look nice on Saga VVT to be defeated by Bezza.

Meanwhile, Persona yet tested, but if take Iriz scores, still lose to Jazz in adult occupant, but gain back in child occupant.

http://www.aseancap.org/honda-jazz/
http://www.aseancap.org/proton-iriz/
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Saga VVT is a let down tbh, after all those hoohaa about safety 360 persona, then suddenly there comes another Saga with just 4 stars and not even ESC & ABS on all variant.. I know they put in a lot effort to make the old chassis better, but it just wasn't enough..

For the Iriz vs Jazz score, they are both still categorized as 5 stars anyway which is quite good, same goes for Bezza.

Persona should actually be tested again due to the car have different rear design and its also more heavier than Iriz, but I doubt the score will be any better due to their knee space is kind of tight like Iriz as you can see the minus mostly from the driver side knee area.

I can sump up that the HPF is something that went beyond the crash test capability, its like in a situation of you may easily get minced in to burger patty while if you're in those Iriz or Persona this may reduce the risk of being minced(not to say totally unharm) due to its solid HPF part that keep the chassis in shape.
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 02:37 PM)
Even so, persona comparable to Vios and City, yet still 100kg heavier.

Bezza's crash test showed it scores better than Persona/iriz. Some may say it's a bit of a cheat as lightweight = less momentum, therefore better score performance, but I dunno lar, the data is there.
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Asean NCAP had only one front crash test, hopefully they will add in side and back crash test ASAP.
Vios and city price aare higher, margin are higher, they can use more aluminium part to reduce weight.
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QUOTE(mywingame @ Mar 8 2017, 03:51 PM)
Saga VVT is a let down tbh, after all those hoohaa about safety 360 persona, then suddenly there comes another Saga with just 4 stars and not even ESC & ABS on all variant.. I know they put in a lot effort to make the old chassis better, but it just wasn't enough..

For the Iriz vs Jazz score, they are both still categorized as 5 stars anyway which is quite good, same goes for Bezza.

Persona should actually be tested again due to the car have different rear design and its also more heavier than Iriz, but I doubt the score will be any better due to their knee space is kind of tight like Iriz as you can see the minus mostly from the driver side knee area.

I can sump up that the HPF is something that went beyond the crash test capability, its like in a situation of you may easily get minced in to burger patty while if you're in those Iriz or Persona this may reduce the risk of being minced(not to say totally unharm) due to its solid HPF part that keep the chassis in shape.
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That's why la, I don't fukkin understand why they'd still carry on with new Saga. It doesn't take a businessman to understand some basic business sense.

Had they just made Persona only, they can reach volume faster, lower cost way more. Now things are more complex, more models means more suppliers, split sales volume means higher cost per unit, etc.

Making Saga VVT was just beating dead horse, and next to newer Bezza, it shows how wasteful it is, cannot deliver results.

The only way to make sense of this is some crony vendors need to cari makan. Or proton just dumbfuk cuz like to listen to Azlano, their mediocre designers that like to syok sendiri, when in truth nobody cares about design. Case in point : bezza may be laughed at for tonggek, but sales much higher, and owners usually happy to share fantastic fc, roomy boot can fit in lotsa stuff to travel here and there.

I open iriz fb from time to time, always got owner share average fc, and complaint feel kuat minyak, then told it's normal.

QUOTE(tat3406 @ Mar 8 2017, 04:04 PM)
Asean NCAP had only one front crash test, hopefully they will add in side and back crash test ASAP.
Vios and city price aare higher, margin are higher, they can use more aluminium part to reduce weight.
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I don't think city and vios use aluminium body, only engine block. They don't even use ultra high tensile steel.

The irony proton own Lotus for decades, know lightness, yet never learn how to be light themselves. Worse, always end up the heaviest in their class.
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 04:58 PM)
That's why la, I don't fukkin understand why they'd still carry on with new Saga. It doesn't take a businessman to understand some basic business sense.

Had they just made Persona only, they can reach volume faster, lower cost way more. Now things are more complex, more models means more suppliers, split sales volume means higher cost per unit, etc.

Making Saga VVT was just beating dead horse, and next to newer Bezza, it shows how wasteful it is, cannot deliver results.

The only way to make sense of this is some crony vendors need to cari makan. Or proton just dumbfuk cuz like to listen to Azlano, their mediocre designers that like to syok sendiri, when in truth nobody cares about design. Case in point : bezza may be laughed at for tonggek, but sales much higher, and owners usually happy to share fantastic fc, roomy boot can fit in lotsa stuff to travel here and there.

I open iriz fb from time to time, always got owner share average fc, and complaint feel kuat minyak, then told it's normal.
I don't think city and vios use aluminium body, only engine block. They don't even use ultra high tensile steel.

The irony proton own Lotus for decades, know lightness, yet never learn how to be light themselves. Worse, always end up the heaviest in their class.
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If compare Bezza to Saga VVT, Perodua can offer OEM accessories for all variant from day one. Proton not even bother about it and Persona only offering skirting on top of premium persona. This show Perodua marketing better in offering whats people want.
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 04:58 PM)
That's why la, I don't fukkin understand why they'd still carry on with new Saga. It doesn't take a businessman to understand some basic business sense.

Had they just made Persona only, they can reach volume faster, lower cost way more. Now things are more complex, more models means more suppliers, split sales volume means higher cost per unit, etc.

Making Saga VVT was just beating dead horse, and next to newer Bezza, it shows how wasteful it is, cannot deliver results.

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Price factor, e.g. motorcycle...it's only rational that business is to cover as much market as possible
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 04:58 PM)
That's why la, I don't fukkin understand why they'd still carry on with new Saga. It doesn't take a businessman to understand some basic business sense.

Had they just made Persona only, they can reach volume faster, lower cost way more. Now things are more complex, more models means more suppliers, split sales volume means higher cost per unit, etc.

Making Saga VVT was just beating dead horse, and next to newer Bezza, it shows how wasteful it is, cannot deliver results.

The only way to make sense of this is some crony vendors need to cari makan. Or proton just dumbfuk cuz like to listen to Azlano, their mediocre designers that like to syok sendiri, when in truth nobody cares about design. Case in point : bezza may be laughed at for tonggek, but sales much higher, and owners usually happy to share fantastic fc, roomy boot can fit in lotsa stuff to travel here and there.

I open iriz fb from time to time, always got owner share average fc, and complaint feel kuat minyak, then told it's normal.
I don't think city and vios use aluminium body, only engine block. They don't even use ultra high tensile steel.

The irony proton own Lotus for decades, know lightness, yet never learn how to be light themselves. Worse, always end up the heaviest in their class.
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All about the cost, aluminium part like engine block is more expensive than steel. Proton can use lotus team to design a light weight car but it will not be price below 100k.
Ya, saga is big let down, I had waiting Saga to come out before purchase persona. Saga still using old generation platform, the safety is not as good as others proton, and no esc for whole range is big mistake.
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QUOTE(akariitagami @ Mar 8 2017, 05:23 PM)
Price factor, e.g. motorcycle...it's only rational that business is to cover as much market as possible
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They could make persona 1.3 instead of a whole different car. But nope.

If there's concern about underpowered, it's the same for bezza 1.0. Even if it's lightweight, 1.0 is just too small for that car, yet they can cater to some market after all.
QUOTE(tat3406 @ Mar 8 2017, 06:47 PM)
All about the cost, aluminium part like engine block is more expensive than steel. Proton can use lotus team to design a light weight car but it will not be price below 100k.
Ya, saga is big let down, I had waiting Saga to come out before purchase persona. Saga still using old generation platform, the safety is not as good as others proton, and no esc for whole range is big mistake.
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Simple, they could buy powertrain from Perodua. But nope.

Saga had cramped interior than bezza too, it's just hard to get comfy, front or back. Smaller boot than bezza. Granted it's pretty quiet, but for reasons above, I'd rather proton just focus resources in 1 model with 1.3 and 1.6 instead of 2 cars like now for their own goodness.


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QUOTE(tat3406 @ Mar 8 2017, 06:47 PM)
All about the cost, aluminium part like engine block is more expensive than steel. Proton can use lotus team to design a light weight car but it will not be price below 100k.
Ya, saga is big let down, I had waiting Saga to come out before purchase persona. Saga still using old generation platform, the safety is not as good as others proton, and no esc for whole range is big mistake.
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Axia engine blocks are made with aluminium part (re: Wikipedia).
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 7 2017, 10:16 PM)
No, the screen wash and Petrol Treatment are not free.

After you did your 1000km service, feel any different? Fuel mileage?

Mine after they changed to the old 10w-40 Semi, engine feels heavy and sluggished, doesn't rev as easily, gas pedal to rev responses slower.
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Wonder why they gave you 10w-40 Semi. Which SC you went to?

Can't answer you about the car performance after the 1st service because it only traveled short distance.

It would be nice to rank the SC as suggested by one of our fellow forumer.

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Did you guys take the left engine oil from SC after service the car? or persona engine will used up the whole bottle of engine oil for each time service ?
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Did you guys take the left engine oil from SC after service the car? or persona engine will used up the whole bottle of engine oil for each time service ?
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I recall the engine oil from the bigger SC come in drums and the oil is pumped directly into the engine. This way there's no wastage especially for the free services. I'm not sure which SC.
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Did you guys take the left engine oil from SC after service the car? or persona engine will used up the whole bottle of engine oil for each time service ?
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take back got a little bit leftover.
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Im planning to send my car for the 1000k service. Where did you service your car and how long did it take to service your car?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Serviced at Alpha Auto@Bukit Serdang, took around 1Hour.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2017, 01:29 AM)
Guys, I've seen a few shots that showing the RPM meter idling at around 700 to 800rpm... meanwhile mine usually idling around 900-1000... is it because mine was MT?
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Mine idle at 700-800RPM when gear D and pressed on break.... but if gear in N than its 900-1000.
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QUOTE(akariitagami @ Mar 8 2017, 03:16 PM)
Mine idling at 1000 too
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 8 2017, 11:01 PM)
Mine idle at 700-800RPM when gear D and pressed on break.... but if gear in N than its 900-1000.
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I see.. so It's normal after all... but still somewhat a bit high RPM compared to most new cars
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In some Persona FB Group I see someone reporting their 20k mileage Persona able to push 600km for MT where low fuel indicator start flashing.. anyone manage to stretch that far before?
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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Mar 8 2017, 07:23 PM)
They could make persona 1.3 instead of a whole different car. But nope.

If there's concern about underpowered, it's the same for bezza 1.0. Even if it's lightweight, 1.0 is just too small for that car, yet they can cater to some market after all.

Simple, they could buy powertrain from Perodua. But nope.

Saga had cramped interior than bezza too, it's just hard to get comfy, front or back. Smaller boot than bezza. Granted it's pretty quiet, but for reasons above, I'd rather proton just focus resources in 1 model with 1.3 and 1.6 instead of 2 cars like now for their own goodness.
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Proton top management always went wrong direction...
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2017, 11:58 PM)
In some Persona FB Group I see someone reporting their 20k mileage Persona able to push 600km for MT where low fuel indicator start flashing.. anyone manage to stretch that far before?
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Now I at 10k mileage, just service last week, previous best fc around 14~15km/l, I always heavy foot at highway. 600km per tank is possible, proton official fc is 17.8km/l, per tank can be more than 700km. I had see one in FB group achieve 800km....

Driving style is very important...
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2017, 11:55 PM)
I see.. so It's normal after all... but still somewhat a bit high RPM compared to most new cars
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This is the first thing I noticed due to last time driving Nissan Sunny the highest is 800rpm, so I thought about if is necessary to ask sc tune down a bit...

But that plunging speed when maintain 1st/2nd gear without gas in slow traffic is really fun imo =P
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 8 2017, 11:58 PM)
In some Persona FB Group I see someone reporting their 20k mileage Persona able to push 600km for MT where low fuel indicator start flashing.. anyone manage to stretch that far before?
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Possible 1 time did manual calculation lowest is 6.13/100km because 4.00 am go back for CNY

So assume kira full tank is 40 / 6.13 = 6.52 * 100km
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how was the fuel comsumption for auto transmission ?? is it fuel saver ??? or worse still like old persona ???
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how was the fuel comsumption for auto transmission ?? is it fuel saver ??? or worse still like old persona ???
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A simple comparison with old Persona AT which has 50L fuel tank vs Persona VVT with 40L fuel tank,

1 full tank can cover similar mileage with the new one considering it has 10L smaller fuel tank.
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A simple comparison with old Persona AT which has 50L fuel tank vs Persona VVT with 40L fuel tank,

1 full tank can cover similar mileage with the new one considering it has 10L smaller fuel tank.
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if compare with myvi ???
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i mean light at the button there..the light is like never off even when i press on the button...make me worried only not knowing it's on or off.. console.gif
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just long press to turn off.
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Mar 9 2017, 11:15 AM)
if compare with myvi ???
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Auto I wasn't sure, but for MT
If say Myvi doing 15-16km/l
This Persona VVT is doing around 14-15km/l

I think auto suppose to be similar like this... around 1 or 2km/l lesser
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I see.. so It's normal after all... but still somewhat a bit high RPM compared to most new cars
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see my attached picture.
this is my FC. From last indicator, i pumped RM74 worth of fuel.
My driving style never exceeds 120km/h and mostly city driving. My RPM are most of the time, between 2000 - 2500 as this range of RPM allows adequate acceleration to the car. Although the picture shows that it hasn't reach the last bar of fuel, but from my experience, around 300km, the fuel indicator will lit, asking me to refuel. If RM74 runs for 300km, that's about RM0.25 for every single KM travelled. That's actually worse than my 2.0L 2008 Lancer GT. The second picture 7.7L/100km, although the figure is very good for me, but it's contradict to my actual spending and experience. The average FC is not accurate for my case.

There are 2 possible answer to this in my mind now:
1. ECU is not properly tweaked for FC
2. Power to weight ratio for Persona is bad because 1600cc need to pull a 1.2 tonne body. The more city driving (start and stop), the more fuel it burns.

It's very different from what Proton had advertised.

By the way, this is my Premium CVT

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see my attached picture.
this is my FC. From last indicator, i pumped RM74 worth of fuel.
My driving style never exceeds 120km/h and mostly city driving. My RPM are most of the time, between 2000 - 2500 as this range of RPM allows adequate acceleration to the car. Although the picture shows that it hasn't reach the last bar of fuel, but from my experience, around 300km, the fuel indicator will lit, asking me to refuel. If RM74 runs for 300km, that's about RM0.25 for every single KM travelled. That's actually worse than my 2.0L 2008 Lancer GT. The second picture 7.7L/100km, although the figure is very good for me, but it's contradict to my actual spending and experience. The average FC is not accurate for my case.

There are 2 possible answer to this in my mind now:
1. ECU is not properly tweaked for FC
2. Power to weight ratio for Persona is bad because 1600cc need to pull a 1.2 tonne body. The more city driving (start and stop), the more fuel it burns.

It's very different from what Proton had advertised.

By the way, this is my Premium CVT
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City driving fc for persona is very bad due to car weight.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 9 2017, 03:58 PM)
see my attached picture.
this is my FC. From last indicator, i pumped RM74 worth of fuel.
My driving style never exceeds 120km/h and mostly city driving. My RPM are most of the time, between 2000 - 2500 as this range of RPM allows adequate acceleration to the car. Although the picture shows that it hasn't reach the last bar of fuel, but from my experience, around 300km, the fuel indicator will lit, asking me to refuel. If RM74 runs for 300km, that's about RM0.25 for every single KM travelled. That's actually worse than my 2.0L 2008 Lancer GT. The second picture 7.7L/100km, although the figure is very good for me, but it's contradict to my actual spending and experience. The average FC is not accurate for my case.

There are 2 possible answer to this in my mind now:
1. ECU is not properly tweaked for FC
2. Power to weight ratio for Persona is bad because 1600cc need to pull a 1.2 tonne body. The more city driving (start and stop), the more fuel it burns.

It's very different from what Proton had advertised.

By the way, this is my Premium CVT
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You owned the Premium CVT, how is the pick-up with FULL LOAD. I'm asking because I read a complaint about it being "under-powered" by a Premium owner. The other variants owners (including me) didn't noticed it.

Talk about "under-powered" - long, long ago I bought the C200 (brand new - the one with rectangular headlights). Got very good review. 2000cc yet from standstill at the road side, it didn't have the acceleration power to slip into the main traffic! My Saga (multi-value, 1st generation) didn't have such problem! How do I know the C200 was heavy? It makan tayar! How the FC? Want to show-off and then worried about FC? Sold the C200 and stick with the Saga for the next 20 years!

Back then I didn't know about Power to Weight Ratio (PWR). Only recently I learned it from one of Pualtan article.

I think the PWR affect both the FC and the acceleration power. LOL when I read Carsifu review "Toyota Innova, the smooth-er operator - Don’t bother to floor the accelerator, it’s just not going to impress"! Similar to my previous C200?
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You owned the Premium CVT, how is the pick-up with FULL LOAD. I'm asking because I read a complaint about it being "under-powered" by a Premium owner. The other variants owners (including me) didn't noticed it.

Talk about "under-powered" - long, long ago I bought the C200 (brand new - the one with rectangular headlights). Got very good review. 2000cc yet from standstill at the road side, it didn't have the acceleration power to slip into the main traffic! My Saga (multi-value, 1st generation) didn't have such problem! How do I know the C200 was heavy? It makan tayar! How the FC? Want to show-off and then worried about FC? Sold the C200 and stick with the Saga for the next 20 years!

Back then I didn't know about Power to Weight Ratio (PWR). Only recently I learned it from one of Pualtan article.

I think the PWR affect both the FC and the acceleration power. LOL when I read Carsifu review "Toyota Innova, the smooth-er operator - Don’t bother to floor the accelerator, it’s just not going to impress"! Similar to my previous C200?
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Most of the time, just me alone driving, max also 1 more passenger.
Acceleration for my car is very good i would say. Just revving to 2000 is enough to pull the car from standstill to 40km/h which is very enough in city. Stepping in a little more to 2200 - 2300rpm, the car accelerates to 60-80 very quickly. I actually think the acceleration is very smooth and fast so the driving pleasure is great.
My boot is empty, just a pair of shoes so car load wise, shouldn't be a problem.
My weight is just 68kg so i really couldn't think of other thing else other than the PWR

If full load, I can feel the car a bit suffering but still ok. I guess that's normal.

This is a good car, but the FC is like 2.0 car...

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 9 2017, 08:25 PM)
Most of the time, just me alone driving, max also 1 more passenger.
Acceleration for my car is very good i would say. Just revving to 2000 is enough to pull the car from standstill to 40km/h which is very enough in city. Stepping in a little more to 2200 - 2300rpm, the car accelerates to 60-80 very quickly. I actually think the acceleration is very smooth and fast so the driving pleasure is great.
My boot is empty, just a pair of shoes so car load wise, shouldn't be a problem.
My weight is just 68kg so i really couldn't think of other thing else other than the PWR

If full load, I can feel the car a bit suffering but still ok. I guess that's normal.

This is a good car, but the FC is like 2.0 car...
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I wasn't sure about your driving style, but going 2k rpm to 2.5k rpm sounds like a bit heavy foot to me.. you may try slower and smoother acceleration by slowly paddling down..

That's what I don't like about automatic transmission especially CVT, it keep giving you the urge to floor down more to feel the rev while actually if you maintain your foot is actually accelerating the car, but we just like to hear the engine roar more to actually believe its accelerating. Especially for this Persona, its really good in masking the speed and push to back feel compared to other car, the acceleration is there, just that we don't often feel it...

But since you came from Lancer which is also CVT, you should be more familiar on this than me hmm.gif

Your Persona mileage how much?
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 9 2017, 04:58 PM)
see my attached picture.
this is my FC. From last indicator, i pumped RM74 worth of fuel.
My driving style never exceeds 120km/h and mostly city driving. My RPM are most of the time, between 2000 - 2500 as this range of RPM allows adequate acceleration to the car. Although the picture shows that it hasn't reach the last bar of fuel, but from my experience, around 300km, the fuel indicator will lit, asking me to refuel. If RM74 runs for 300km, that's about RM0.25 for every single KM travelled. That's actually worse than my 2.0L 2008 Lancer GT. The second picture 7.7L/100km, although the figure is very good for me, but it's contradict to my actual spending and experience. The average FC is not accurate for my case.

There are 2 possible answer to this in my mind now:
1. ECU is not properly tweaked for FC
2. Power to weight ratio for Persona is bad because 1600cc need to pull a 1.2 tonne body. The more city driving (start and stop), the more fuel it burns.

It's very different from what Proton had advertised.

By the way, this is my Premium CVT
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Same, full city drive, I pump RM75 can only go 280km!
...but when I drive high way, half tank can reach 300KM!!... full tank probably can go 600-700KM!!
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 9 2017, 10:36 PM)
I wasn't sure about your driving style, but going 2k rpm to 2.5k rpm sounds like a bit heavy foot to me.. you may try slower and smoother acceleration by slowly paddling down..

That's what I don't like about automatic transmission especially CVT, it keep giving you the urge to floor down more to feel the rev while actually if you maintain your foot is actually accelerating the car, but we just like to hear the engine roar more to actually believe its accelerating. Especially for this Persona, its really good in masking the speed and push to back feel compared to other car, the acceleration is there, just that we don't often feel it...

But since you came from Lancer which is also CVT, you should be more familiar on this than me  hmm.gif

Your Persona mileage how much?
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My mileage just 4k
Yes. I am quite familiar with CVT and actually cvt not that bad.
Just can't stand the fc but I see most of the bros here get very decent fc so I start to think it's my driving style or really the car is really that thirsty ...
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 9 2017, 10:57 PM)
Same, full city drive, I pump RM75 can only go 280km!
...but when I drive high way, half tank can reach 300KM!!... full tank probably can go 600-700KM!!
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 9 2017, 10:58 PM)
My mileage just 4k
Yes. I am quite familiar with CVT and actually cvt not that bad.
Just can't stand the fc but I see most of the bros here get very decent fc so I start to think it's my driving style or really the car is really that thirsty ...
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Sorry didn't have CVT to contribute some result... mine just MT and doing great... now at 350KM still have 3 bars left...

30% city and 70% highway with roughly half an hour bumper to bumper traffic
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I noticed how to get the best FC through the Eco indicator and I am gonna be testing it,
The rough guidelines are as below,
1) Eco Mode only starts from 30KM/H, from standstill light gas to @1500RPM reaching 30KM/H, than release gas and maintains @1250rpm Eco will turn on.
2) 40-60KM/H light gas @1500-1750rpm.... never try to reach @2000rpm or else the Eco Indicator will off
3) 70-80KM/H @2000rpm
....and so on....am starting to get the feel of the Eco drive!...and I can say... the thrill of acceleration is gone!! Totally!....because my previous car was a 2001 Wira Manual...and it's dam fun to drive and accelerate and speed around corners.... guess this car be like for "comfort ride" smile.gif
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 9 2017, 11:11 PM)
I noticed how to get the best FC through the Eco indicator and I am gonna be testing it,
The rough guidelines are as below,
1) Eco Mode only starts from 30KM/H, from standstill light gas to @1500RPM reaching 30KM/H, than release gas and maintains @1250rpm Eco will turn on.
2) 40-60KM/H light gas @1500-1750rpm.... never try to reach @2000rpm or else the Eco Indicator will off
3) 70-80KM/H @2000rpm
....and so on....am starting to get the feel of the Eco drive!...and I can say... the thrill of acceleration is gone!! Totally!....because my previous car was a 2001 Wira Manual...and it's dam fun to drive and accelerate and speed around corners.... guess this car be like for "comfort ride" smile.gif
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but if purposely drive like this to get the FC, there's no more fun in the drive d...
I think a good engine should be efficient in fuel and if driving spiritly then makan minyak that one can understand
I'm just driving like 60 - 80 and i still can't get a good FC is really disturbing.
Don't tell me i need to drive 40-60 just to get a normal FC ... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 9 2017, 10:57 PM)
Same, full city drive, I pump RM75 can only go 280km!
...but when I drive high way, half tank can reach 300KM!!... full tank probably can go 600-700KM!!
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bro, I'm not sure about you but for me, really unacceptable. Even more thirsty than a 2.0 car... somemore driving normally, not very fast that kind...
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 9 2017, 11:25 PM)
but if purposely drive like this to get the FC, there's no more fun in the drive d...
I think a good engine should be efficient in fuel and if driving spiritly then makan minyak that one can understand
I'm just driving like 60 - 80 and i still can't get a good FC is really disturbing.
Don't tell me i need to drive 40-60 just to get a normal FC ...  biggrin.gif
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I don't think the key to save fuel is the speed.. its more about how you accelerate.

Like drsmallkid said, to save fuel you have to keep the eco indicator on most of the time. The eco indicator will lit after about 25km/h if u drive economically, the rest is a course of how to drive the car gently and plan your journey like not accelerating unreasonably when there's a stop in front and overtaking aggressively.

Yes it will definitely kill the fun, this is no award winning engine, its just an engine that does better than its previous engine.
If you have time to keep a watch on Nissan Almera thread, despite having VVT on both the intake and exhaust and being lighter than Persona, the fuel consumption is no where better than this Persona.

Previous generation Persona AT I only manage to stretch 350km from full tank till low fuel indicator lit, in my opinion this VVT is also doing better than the previous gen Persona.

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 10 2017, 12:07 AM)
I don't think the key to save fuel is the speed.. its more about how you accelerate.

Like drsmallkid said, to save fuel you have to keep the eco indicator on most of the time. The eco indicator will lit after about 25km/h if u drive economically, the rest is a course of how to drive the car gently and plan your journey like not accelerating unreasonably when there's a stop in front and overtaking aggressively.

Yes it will definitely kill the fun, this is no award winning engine, its just an engine that does better than its previous engine.
If you have time to keep a watch on Nissan Almera thread, despite having VVT on both the intake and exhaust and being lighter than Persona, the fuel consumption is no where better than this Persona.

Previous generation Persona AT I only manage to stretch 350km from full tank till low fuel indicator lit, in my opinion this VVT is also doing better than the previous gen Persona.
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 9 2017, 11:11 PM)
I noticed how to get the best FC through the Eco indicator and I am gonna be testing it,
The rough guidelines are as below,
1) Eco Mode only starts from 30KM/H, from standstill light gas to @1500RPM reaching 30KM/H, than release gas and maintains @1250rpm Eco will turn on.
2) 40-60KM/H light gas @1500-1750rpm.... never try to reach @2000rpm or else the Eco Indicator will off
3) 70-80KM/H @2000rpm
....and so on....am starting to get the feel of the Eco drive!...and I can say... the thrill of acceleration is gone!! Totally!....because my previous car was a 2001 Wira Manual...and it's dam fun to drive and accelerate and speed around corners.... guess this car be like for "comfort ride" smile.gif
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What's your FC litle/100km? I terbalik driving technique by revving to the preferred speed only keep light foot
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Old persona are almost the same fc but u need to pay for the extra 10liter fuel. My std cvt best can go around 380km only 80% city driving from full tank to fuel light up. Average 7.3l/100km. Here are some tips i like to share maybe can help fellow cvt owner for better saving:

- Pump the front tyre 220 psi back 200 psi (70kg driver and 60kg front passenger). If back got passengers or luggage then back add 10~20 psi. Check tyre pressure every 2 weeks.

- Off the aircond when starting the car cold, jalan first and on the aircond when temperature indicator got 2 bar. Lower or off the aircond if not that hot.

- After release the brake from a full stop, let the car move a bit first before accelerate gradually. The key of cvt to save fuel are u need to control the gas pedal well at slow driving. If u press hard the gas pedal at wrong timing, u will tend to bring up the rpm unnecessarily instead of moving the car faster.

Best fuel brand i tested is petronas 95 as it's give better power at low torque.
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Interested in buying this new Persona. But a bit worry about Proton because of its financial issue and the fact it will be taken over by foreign company soon....
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What r you worry about? after sales services?
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QUOTE(cktang @ Mar 10 2017, 11:08 AM)
Old persona are almost the same fc but u need to pay for the extra 10liter fuel. My std cvt best can go around 380km only 80% city driving from full tank to fuel light up. Average 7.3l/100km. Here are some tips i like to share maybe can help fellow cvt owner for better saving:

- Pump the front tyre 220 psi back 200 psi (70kg driver and 60kg front passenger). If back got passengers or luggage then back add 10~20 psi. Check tyre pressure every 2 weeks.

- Off the aircond when starting the car cold, jalan first and on the aircond when temperature indicator got 2 bar. Lower or off the aircond if not that hot.

- After release the brake from a full stop, let the car move a bit first before accelerate gradually. The key of cvt to save fuel are u need to control the gas pedal well at slow driving. If u press hard the gas pedal at wrong timing, u will tend to bring up the rpm  unnecessarily instead of moving the car faster.

Best fuel brand i tested is petronas 95 as it's give better power at low torque.
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QUOTE(cktang @ Mar 10 2017, 11:08 AM)
Old persona are almost the same fc but u need to pay for the extra 10liter fuel. My std cvt best can go around 380km only 80% city driving from full tank to fuel light up. Average 7.3l/100km. Here are some tips i like to share maybe can help fellow cvt owner for better saving:

- Pump the front tyre 220 psi back 200 psi (70kg driver and 60kg front passenger). If back got passengers or luggage then back add 10~20 psi. Check tyre pressure every 2 weeks.

- Off the aircond when starting the car cold, jalan first and on the aircond when temperature indicator got 2 bar. Lower or off the aircond if not that hot.

- After release the brake from a full stop, let the car move a bit first before accelerate gradually. The key of cvt to save fuel are u need to control the gas pedal well at slow driving. If u press hard the gas pedal at wrong timing, u will tend to bring up the rpm  unnecessarily instead of moving the car faster.

Best fuel brand i tested is petronas 95 as it's give better power at low torque.
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like that is not a wise way .... not everyone willing to do that in order to save oil ... so means this car FC still not goood or worst than old my vi .. as i am driving the myvi ... if possible i willing to get new car with similar old my vi FC or better .. not even worst ... anyway thanks for ur tip
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Mar 10 2017, 01:09 PM)
like that is not a wise way .... not everyone willing to do that in order to save oil ... so means this car FC still not goood or worst than old my vi .. as i am driving the myvi ... if possible i willing to get new car with similar old my vi FC or better .. not even worst ... anyway thanks for ur tip
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I think not everyone is willing to do that coz it REQUIRED SOME EFFORT . Many drivers wanted consistently good FC in all situations conditions and driving style, which is pretty much impossible.

The most effortless ways are.... throwing the ball back to other people:

gomen: lower the god damn petrol price pls
SC staff: please finetune the car and adjust the tyre pressure optimally please. I dont care about the psi thingy its ALL SO DAMN CONFUSING.

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 10 2017, 12:20 PM)
I think not everyone is willing to do that coz it REQUIRED SOME EFFORT .  Many drivers wanted consistently good FC in all situations conditions and driving style, which is pretty  much impossible.

The most effortless ways are.... throwing the ball back to other people:

gomen: lower the god damn  petrol price pls
SC staff: please finetune the car and adjust the tyre pressure optimally please. I dont care about the psi thingy its ALL SO DAMN CONFUSING.
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yes indeed , i think should add a pros for this car .. still bad FC , but better old persona.. thanks for the information .. think i should consider other cars ..
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 9 2017, 11:02 PM)
Sorry didn't have CVT to contribute some result... mine just MT and doing great... now at 350KM still have 3 bars left...

30% city and 70% highway with roughly half an hour bumper to bumper traffic
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my mt driving skills still giving me bad fc, 400-420km for RM75 sad.gif
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QUOTE(cktang @ Mar 10 2017, 11:08 AM)
Old persona are almost the same fc but u need to pay for the extra 10liter fuel. My std cvt best can go around 380km only 80% city driving from full tank to fuel light up. Average 7.3l/100km. Here are some tips i like to share maybe can help fellow cvt owner for better saving:

- Pump the front tyre 220 psi back 200 psi (70kg driver and 60kg front passenger). If back got passengers or luggage then back add 10~20 psi. Check tyre pressure every 2 weeks.

- Off the aircond when starting the car cold, jalan first and on the aircond when temperature indicator got 2 bar. Lower or off the aircond if not that hot.

- After release the brake from a full stop, let the car move a bit first before accelerate gradually. The key of cvt to save fuel are u need to control the gas pedal well at slow driving. If u press hard the gas pedal at wrong timing, u will tend to bring up the rpm  unnecessarily instead of moving the car faster.

Best fuel brand i tested is petronas 95 as it's give better power at low torque.
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My style of driving is like the tips you gave - smooth, no jerks, no syok. Most of the time the ECO light is on.

I can see that most of us are concerned with the FC. Not a surprise due to our financial bracket.

According to Carsifu -> At a constant 90kph, the new Persona is 10% (automatic transmission) and 13% (manual transmission) more fuel efficient compared with its predecessor.
Yes you are right - New and old persona are almost the same FC. Nothing to shout about because in the 1st place, old persona FC is bad. So, 10-13% less bad, is still bad!

We've to accept the fact that Persona is a heavy car - nice for highway driving.

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All CVT owner, did you guys aware your temp gauge? It will be normal for 3 bars, when you drive on highway, 110-120, especially morning and night, it will reduce to 2 bars? Wanna collect more info before check with SC. So far i know only 2 people having this issue including me.
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 10 2017, 05:52 PM)
All CVT owner, did you guys aware your temp gauge? It will be normal for 3 bars, when you drive on highway, 110-120, especially morning and night, it will reduce to 2 bars? Wanna collect more info before check with SC. So far i know only 2 people having this issue including me.
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Iriz is also like that, nobody had any prob so far. Dont worry much about it icon_rolleyes.gif
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Iriz is also like that, nobody had any prob so far. Dont worry much about it  icon_rolleyes.gif
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me too. this is already discussed in v1.
If I can remember clearly, SC said the temp gauge will show realtime info whereas compared to other car models, they tend to delay the information.
So this means although in other cars, it's showing 3 bars, actually it is programmed to delay it.

But i don't buy such saying... If you tell me the gauge have smaller ratios so compare to other car makes, it's more "sensitive" then i believe.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 10 2017, 06:53 PM)
me too. this is already discussed in v1.
If I can remember clearly, SC said the temp gauge will show realtime info whereas compared to other car models, they tend to delay the information.
So this means although in other cars, it's showing 3 bars, actually it is programmed to delay it. 

But i don't buy such saying... If you tell me the gauge have smaller ratios so compare to other car makes, it's more "sensitive" then i believe.
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I think when driving on highway, waterpump works faster, and ur radiator cools down faster due to higher speed. The thermostat might not be quick enough to open/close to balance off the water temps. If anybody got OBD reader then can find out what's the temp at 2 bars and 3 bars. Maybe it's not far off +-10degrees
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Mar 10 2017, 06:57 PM)
I think when driving on highway, waterpump works faster, and ur radiator cools down faster due to higher speed. The thermostat might not be quick enough to open/close to balance off the water temps. If anybody got OBD reader then can find out what's the temp at 2 bars and 3 bars. Maybe it's not far off +-10degrees
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Is it not the water pump (like the radiator fan) is controlled by the temp sensor? On high speed, the radiator is cool down by the wind that hit it and therefore the water pump (like the radiator fan) is switched off to prolong its lifespan? Just asking to clear my doubt.

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Is it not the water pump (like the radiator fan) is controlled by the temp sensor? On high speed, the radiator is cool down by the wind that hit it and therefore the water pump (like the radiator fan) is switched off to prolong its lifespan? Just asking to clear my doubt.
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 10 2017, 06:52 PM)
All CVT owner, did you guys aware your temp gauge? It will be normal for 3 bars, when you drive on highway, 110-120, especially morning and night, it will reduce to 2 bars? Wanna collect more info before check with SC. So far i know only 2 people having this issue including me.
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Same!!
When drive on high speed... drops to 2 bar... and I was thinking "Heck... this engine is chilling way to much on speed" laugh.gif
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so you guys just treat it as "normal" case for the temp gauge or did you guys check with SC before? I will asked them during coming 10k service.

My wild guess is also because the thermostat that using can't react fast enough for this? My main concern is this will impact the fc as ecu might treat low temp and burn more fuel to keep the temp at nominal?
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 11 2017, 12:03 PM)
so you guys just treat it as "normal" case for the temp gauge or did you guys check with SC before? I will asked them during coming 10k service.

My wild guess is also because the thermostat that using can't react fast enough for this? My main concern is this will impact the fc as ecu might treat low temp and burn more fuel to keep the temp at nominal?
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There are 2 thermostat, mechanical thermostat controlling the water flow into engine, and electrical thermo sensor controlling the radiator fan spin on off... I believe on highway the thermo sensor already shut off the radiator fan when Aircond cut off, but the mechanical thermostat might having lower temp, says 71-82'c， it still allowing water flow, so you observe lower temp during highway drive.
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Thinking on doing 10K service in Mutiara Damansara SC, anyone have experience dealing with them. I'm trying to fix the rattling noise and also some minor issues with them.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 9 2017, 03:58 PM)
see my attached picture.
this is my FC. From last indicator, i pumped RM74 worth of fuel.
My driving style never exceeds 120km/h and mostly city driving. My RPM are most of the time, between 2000 - 2500 as this range of RPM allows adequate acceleration to the car. Although the picture shows that it hasn't reach the last bar of fuel, but from my experience, around 300km, the fuel indicator will lit, asking me to refuel. If RM74 runs for 300km, that's about RM0.25 for every single KM travelled. That's actually worse than my 2.0L 2008 Lancer GT. The second picture 7.7L/100km, although the figure is very good for me, but it's contradict to my actual spending and experience. The average FC is not accurate for my case.

There are 2 possible answer to this in my mind now:
1. ECU is not properly tweaked for FC
2. Power to weight ratio for Persona is bad because 1600cc need to pull a 1.2 tonne body. The more city driving (start and stop), the more fuel it burns.

It's very different from what Proton had advertised.

By the way, this is my Premium CVT
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Those digital fuel range/fuel consumption estimator will never be 100% correct but the discrepancies wont be very obvious. In my opinion 7.7L/100km for city driving isnt that bad because every car will makan minyak during jam and i think 2000-2500 is abit heavy footed for me. Try and just hold the revs below 2k and let the car climb and i think its just that the fuel tank in the persona is really small with only 40L of fuel that makes it feel that the car makan minyak. Take the benz E200 2014 facelift for example and i know its like comparing between apples and oranges but just bear with me on this, the car can achieve 5.8l/100 km if driven at around 80kmh ish but when its super jam it can also go up to crazy 14L/100km. But the fuel tank is around 80L and highway driving itself the car is capable of doing 1k km of range. My point here is that 7.7L/100km for traffic jam/ city driving is not that bad and the fuel tank is just too small. Just my 2 cents rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(cktang @ Mar 10 2017, 11:08 AM)
Old persona are almost the same fc but u need to pay for the extra 10liter fuel. My std cvt best can go around 380km only 80% city driving from full tank to fuel light up. Average 7.3l/100km. Here are some tips i like to share maybe can help fellow cvt owner for better saving:

- Pump the front tyre 220 psi back 200 psi (70kg driver and 60kg front passenger). If back got passengers or luggage then back add 10~20 psi. Check tyre pressure every 2 weeks.

- Off the aircond when starting the car cold, jalan first and on the aircond when temperature indicator got 2 bar. Lower or off the aircond if not that hot.

- After release the brake from a full stop, let the car move a bit first before accelerate gradually. The key of cvt to save fuel are u need to control the gas pedal well at slow driving. If u press hard the gas pedal at wrong timing, u will tend to bring up the rpm  unnecessarily instead of moving the car faster.

Best fuel brand i tested is petronas 95 as it's give better power at low torque.
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Speaking about fuel, have anyone tried other brands and found out that that particular brand of fuel is better than others? Im pumping shell ron 95 and i have no complains so far rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 11 2017, 01:49 PM)
Those digital fuel range/fuel consumption estimator will never be 100% correct but the discrepancies wont be very obvious. In my opinion 7.7L/100km for city driving isnt that bad because every car will makan minyak during jam and i think 2000-2500 is abit heavy footed for me. Try and just hold the revs below 2k and let the car climb and i think its just that the fuel tank in the persona is really small with only 40L of fuel that makes it feel that the car makan minyak. Take the benz E200 2014 facelift for example and i know its like comparing between apples and oranges but just bear with me on this, the car can achieve 5.8l/100 km if driven at around 80kmh ish but when its super jam it can also go up to crazy 14L/100km. But the fuel tank is around 80L and highway driving itself the car is capable of doing 1k km of range. My point here is that 7.7L/100km for traffic jam/ city driving is not that bad and the fuel tank is just too small. Just my 2 cents  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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If I can really get 7.7L/100km I will be very happy lo.
I know the meter cluster is showing 7.7 but it's contradicting with my actually spending. In reality is like 12L/100km

But these few days I have tried driving below 2000rpm and it really helps to squeeze another 50km out from the fuel tank.
I guess this is something that need you accept
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 11 2017, 12:17 PM)
There are 2 thermostat, mechanical thermostat controlling the water flow into engine, and electrical thermo sensor controlling the radiator fan spin on off... I believe on highway the thermo sensor already shut off the radiator fan when Aircond cut off, but the mechanical thermostat might having lower temp, says 71-82'c， it still allowing water flow, so you observe lower temp during highway drive.
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Good feedback.

My long held theory is that the strong wind buffing the radiator in particular and the engine block in general is more efficient in dispersing the heat generated thus causing the temp bar to drop.

Maybe the engine temp tolerance range is within those 2 to 3 bars thus nothing to worry about? Maybe the temp gauge just indicate the radiator temp and not about the internal combustion chamber which should be controlled by spark plugs?

As an owner, I too would like to know more about the temp gauge.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 11 2017, 12:17 PM)
There are 2 thermostat, mechanical thermostat controlling the water flow into engine, and electrical thermo sensor controlling the radiator fan spin on off... I believe on highway the thermo sensor already shut off the radiator fan when Aircond cut off, but the mechanical thermostat might having lower temp, says 71-82'c， it still allowing water flow, so you observe lower temp during highway drive.
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I think a car only have 1 thermostat. =p. Sensor and thermostat are different. Sensor read the coolant temp and send info to ECU and did some control over fuel injection or fan Etc. if the temp gauge show not norminal, so it burn more fuel to keep engine hot?

It seen the thermostat have not do it jobs, I did have xp with my old car before, after I remove a thermostat, my temp gauge can still reach nominal temp, when I speed up, the temp gauge will be low again. I guess ECU also not did it job to compensate that? Hmmm. Confusing
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Anyone know how to open this thing? I saw got one screw there for me to open.

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 11 2017, 02:00 PM)
If I can really get 7.7L/100km I will be very happy lo.
I know the meter cluster is showing 7.7 but it's contradicting with my actually spending. In reality is like 12L/100km

But these few days I have tried driving below 2000rpm and it really helps to squeeze another 50km out from the fuel tank.
I guess this is something that need you accept
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For my case, almost 95% Highway driving. 14.5km/l while cruising around 110-130km/h where Eco light on. No suddenly pick up. 11.5km/l if cruising at 130-140km/h. Some where in between is around 12km++/l. Not all good not so bad I guess. But tank too small, should have at least 45l instead of 40.
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Anyone know how to open this thing? I saw got one screw there for me to open.

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Pretty sure u can open it but i wouldnt recommend u to do it. btw that whole part is so soft can bend it literally
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 11 2017, 02:00 PM)
If I can really get 7.7L/100km I will be very happy lo.
I know the meter cluster is showing 7.7 but it's contradicting with my actually spending. In reality is like 12L/100km

But these few days I have tried driving below 2000rpm and it really helps to squeeze another 50km out from the fuel tank.
I guess this is something that need you accept
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yaa just accelerate gently and the engine will sip less fuel
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 11 2017, 03:48 PM)
I think a car only have 1 thermostat. =p. Sensor and thermostat are different. Sensor read the coolant temp and send info to ECU and did some control over fuel injection or fan Etc. if the temp gauge show not norminal, so it burn more fuel to keep engine hot?

It seen the thermostat have not do it jobs, I did have xp with my old car before, after I remove a thermostat, my temp gauge can still reach nominal temp, when I speed up, the temp gauge will be low again. I guess ECU also not did it job to compensate that? Hmmm. Confusing
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There's always a tolerance lower value on the thermostat, not sure about new persona, I have read some where the thermostat of campro engine opening is about 82'c.. optimal coolant temp is 90'c, but you can't wait until 90'c only letting the water flow to radiator, it would be too late.
After thermostat allowing water free flowing, it's the job of radiator, fan, and airflow to cool down the water... Of coz those are not constant variable, thus the coolant temp always varying 82-95 during normal driving...
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 11 2017, 02:49 PM)
Good feedback.

My long held theory is that the strong wind buffing the radiator in particular and the engine block in general is more efficient in dispersing the heat generated thus causing the temp bar to drop.

Maybe the engine temp tolerance range is within those 2 to 3 bars thus nothing to worry about? Maybe the temp gauge just indicate the radiator temp and not about the internal combustion chamber which should be controlled by spark plugs?

As an owner, I too would like to know more about the temp gauge.
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No, the car's temp gauge is indicating the water temp, not internal combustion chamber..
I think the temp of internal combustion chamber would be over 300'c..
Another add-on temp gauge people usually added is oil temp, for this you can notice the oil temp usually varying 80-130'c on extreme revving case. But 130'c is still not concern as the oil temp could maxed at 170'c on gauge.
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Thinking on doing 10K service in Mutiara Damansara SC, anyone have experience dealing with them. I'm trying to fix the rattling noise and also some minor issues with them.
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Could you kindly ask the SA about the Temp Bar dropping from 3 to 2 when on high speed. Will it hurt the engine?

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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 11 2017, 09:59 PM)
Could you kindly ask the SA about the Temp Bar dropping from 3 to 2 when on high speed. Will it hurt the engine?

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Will try to ask them.
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Hi all,my car got a kind of noise during braking almost to full stop ,sound like "krup krup krup",and "clik clik " noise during reverse or forward on slope, got anyone face this two problem ?
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I rarely use my car, just during weekend and sometimes I outstation on weekends, so the car rarely move. 3 weeks after got my car, the mileage is just 150km.

If I only reach 1k km by let's say 5 months, does the first 1k km service have any period i need to adhere to?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 11 2017, 08:06 PM)
There's always a tolerance lower value on the thermostat, not sure about new persona, I have read some where the thermostat of campro engine opening is about 82'c.. optimal coolant temp is 90'c, but you can't wait until 90'c only letting the water flow to radiator, it would be too late.
After thermostat allowing water free flowing, it's the job of radiator, fan, and airflow to cool down the water... Of coz those are not constant variable, thus the coolant temp always varying 82-95 during normal driving...
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Yes agree. every items for measurement have it tolerance range. Usually engine operation temp should be at around 90-100C. Every thermostat should have marking stated the temp value where it start to open. Usually 75-85C if not mistaken.

the problem now is why can't they set the 2 bar to 3 bar if really the temp is in acceptance case? It should have a standard that from what reading to what reading is nominal value and this standard should apply to all the car outside the market I guess? Seriously this really worry me after I reading below. Just wanna collect more info and reason to question the SC. Else they won't layan u

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The thermostat is there primarily to help the engine warm up in the morning. As we discussed in a previous article, the engine is designed to operate at it's operating temperature. Most engine wear occurs when the engine is cold, once it's warmed up there is very little wear in a healthy engine. Thus, we definitely want to run a thermostat to allow the engine to warm up as quickly as possible until it reaches our desired and designed operating temperature.

http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/0...-the-advantage/
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 12 2017, 10:39 AM)
Yes agree.  every items for measurement have it tolerance range. Usually engine operation temp should be at around 90-100C. Every thermostat should have marking stated the temp value where it start to open. Usually 75-85C if not mistaken.

the problem now is why can't they set the 2 bar to 3 bar if really the temp is in acceptance case? It should have a standard that from what reading to what reading is nominal value and this standard should apply to all the car outside the market I guess? Seriously this really worry me after I reading below. Just wanna collect more info and reason to question the SC. Else they won't layan u 

From Internet
The thermostat is there primarily to help the engine warm up in the morning. As we discussed in a previous article, the engine is designed to operate at it's operating temperature. Most engine wear occurs when the engine is cold, once it's warmed up there is very little wear in a healthy engine. Thus, we definitely want to run a thermostat to allow the engine to warm up as quickly as possible until it reaches our desired and designed operating temperature.

http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/0...-the-advantage/
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The keyword is "warm up" ... That concern is mainly from cooler climate country..
I'm not saying we don't need warm up to reduce engine wear, but I guess once the temp exceeding 70'c, it should be safe.
Personally I prefer temp gauge varying to indicate the actual temp instead of pointing just one location for safe temp variation. But that's different from individual. Of coz you can ask proton staff on that, but I guess their answer would be no worries, no problem, as the car temp gauge was designed to be like that, nothing an ordinary SC can modify on it.
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My fuel indicator showed massive discrepancies again..

Yesterday I Felt excited when 3 bars dropped to 2 bars after 85km distance, 80% highway, no jam in city roads. WOW!!!

.....then 2 bars dropped to 1 bar after the next 30km . ...damn!!

OK. so nothing have changed...thats about 55-58km per bar like my daily drive to and back office with 60% hiway and 40% city roads with the chronic jam.


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Yesterday went test drive the Persona Premium. The engine definitely has enough power, but the CVT is a bit noisy. However, it responds faster than the CVT in my old City. Interior quality is much better than Bezza.
Overall quite impressed. But my wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(monoikhwan @ Mar 12 2017, 10:16 AM)
I rarely use my car, just during weekend and sometimes I outstation on weekends, so the car rarely move. 3 weeks after got my car, the mileage is just 150km.

If I only reach 1k km by let's say 5 months,  does the first 1k km service have any period i need to adhere to?
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Its 1km or 1 month..whichever come first
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 12 2017, 11:22 AM)
My fuel indicator showed massive discrepancies again..

Yesterday I Felt excited when 3 bars dropped to 2 bars after 85km distance, 80% highway, no jam in city roads. WOW!!!

.....then  2 bars dropped to 1 bar after the next 30km . ...damn!!

OK. so nothing have changed...thats about 55-58km per bar  like my daily drive to and back office with 60% hiway and 40% city roads with the chronic jam.
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Do others suffering from the same issue?
Sounds like instrument measurement issue. Maybe you should get the Bluetooth OBD reader to read the values.

QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 12 2017, 11:42 AM)
Yesterday went test drive the Persona Premium. The engine definitely has enough power, but the CVT is a bit noisy. However, it responds faster than the CVT in my old City. Interior quality is much better than Bezza.
Overall quite impressed. But my wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks.  sweat.gif
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Wah...I thought the Punch CVT is not responsive especially from stand still. I haven't test drive one. Lol
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 12 2017, 11:22 AM)
My fuel indicator showed massive discrepancies again..

Yesterday I Felt excited when 3 bars dropped to 2 bars after 85km distance, 80% highway, no jam in city roads. WOW!!!

.....then  2 bars dropped to 1 bar after the next 30km . ...damn!!

OK. so nothing have changed...thats about 55-58km per bar  like my daily drive to and back office with 60% hiway and 40% city roads with the chronic jam.
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The fuel indicator reading is not liner. Once it drop to 3 bars, it means SOON you'll be making the petrol station owner laughing all the way to the bank. 2 bars mean VERY SOON and 1 bar is asking you to get ready your credit card. The fuel icon flashing you? Drive straight to the nearest police station to make a harrasement report. Today Sunday lah!
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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 12 2017, 10:47 AM)
The keyword is "warm up" ... That concern is mainly from cooler climate country..
I'm not saying we don't need warm up to reduce engine wear, but I guess once the temp exceeding 70'c, it should be safe.
Personally I prefer temp gauge varying to indicate the actual temp instead of pointing just one location for safe temp variation. But that's different from individual. Of coz you can ask proton staff on that, but I guess their answer would be no worries, no problem, as the car temp gauge was designed to be like that, nothing an ordinary SC can modify on it.
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Yeah. If the temp gauge varying to indicate the actual temp is great. As least I know it is at designed operating temp. So we need to know 2 bar is indicate how much. 70c I don't think is high enough. As normal operating temp should be 90-100C. 20C is huge I guess. Imagine u drive on highway for few hours non stop and operating at 70C, you sure it won't hurt?
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QUOTE(steven789 @ Mar 12 2017, 11:42 AM)
Yesterday went test drive the Persona Premium. The engine definitely has enough power, but the CVT is a bit noisy. However, it responds faster than the CVT in my old City. Interior quality is much better than Bezza.
Overall quite impressed. But my wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks.  sweat.gif
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You have decided to buy Persona but not sure which variant to get?

Old Goat here invited 3 Car Reviewer Specialists namely Me, Myself and I to give their concise, honest and impartial opinions regarding Persona various variants.

And also a car thief (CT) to grade the various variants. Yes, your read it right. Who else is more interested in other people cars? You think he simply go and steal any Cap Ayam cars? And also some GF.....

Premium CVT - Pros: Semua ada
Cons: Semua problems pun ada
GF: What ??? You got Persona??? I thought you said Perdana!!!
CT: 1 thumb-up. Sorry about that, Bezza got the 2 thumps-up.

Executive CVT - Pros: Saved RM60K-RM56K = RM4K
Cons: Least popular
GF: What ??? You paid RM6K (RM56K-RM50K) for 8 stupid Adds-on? RM6K divided by 8 = RM750 each!!! Everyday you carry sugarcanes??? And everyday you need to use the front fog lamps??? And .... And ....
CT: Thumb-down

Standard CVT - Pros: Saved RM60K-RM50K = RM10K. Got moola to change roda (wheel). Clever boy!
Cons: No this, no that
GF: You no money say so lah
CT: Middle finger

Standard 5MT - Pros: Paradise for those who must "main kayu" and "goncang kaki"
Cons: Wife keeps complaining about the reverse placement of the signal/wiper control sticks
GF: Now you no hand to "more-more cha-cha", huh???
CT: Four letters word

Verdict: Change GF and make Old Goat persona nan grata!

Note - OG owned the Prestigious Award Winning Middle-finger one.
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cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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Has anyone changed their stock tyres to other brand? Thinking of changing soon, but I'm a bit of a noob to find which brand provides less noise and comfort. Suggestion, anyone? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ashhh @ Mar 12 2017, 07:21 PM)
Has anyone changed their stock tyres to other brand? Thinking of changing soon, but I'm a bit of a noob to find which brand provides less noise and comfort. Suggestion, anyone? smile.gif
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For quiet and comfort you can try CC6, seen a lot good review about its quietness and comfort. But since this is not a performance tyre, don't expect for superior wet grip
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QUOTE(Jspot @ Mar 12 2017, 07:47 AM)
Hi all,my car got a kind of noise during braking almost to full stop ,sound like "krup krup krup",and "clik clik " noise during reverse or forward on slope, got anyone face this two problem ?
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Last week there was also a quarry about kruk kruk sound when braking. And now you mentioned it too. Maybe brake problems are now starting to appear.

I didn't hear any funny noise when braking or reversing, whether on slope or on level ground.

If you now feel your car is behaving differently as compare when you first took delivery of your car, I would suggest you send it back to SC for checking. Brake wise, do it ASAP because brake failure is a serious matter.

I know it is a hassle to go to SC but don't go to an unauthorized workshop to avoid getting your car warranty voided.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:30 PM)
For quiet and comfort you can try CC6, seen a lot good review about its quietness and comfort. But since this is not a performance tyre, don't expect for superior wet grip
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What brand is that? Too lazy to google.

Oh nevermind, it is Continental.

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i own a standard cvt persona.

1. What is the recommended tyre pressure? the manual says it is 210 for front tyres and 190 for back tyres. is that enough?
2. When you stop at a slope, does hill stop assist kick start automatically? i.e it will not go backwards if you are on D gear?
3. When you stop at a slope and you want to accelerate, I notice that you need to press the pedal quite hard for it to move
4. Does persona support phone charger? If so what brand would you guys recommend?
5. Any specific phone holder that you guys can recommend? I tend to use waze a lot due to me being a new driver and i need a phone holder to hold the phone while i'm driving

Thank you in advance guys!
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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Yours is MT? Boss also drive MT? Whereas most of us drive CVT.

It ls stated that at constant 90kph, MT use less fuel than CVT.

So, do we have to take this into consideration when comparing FC?
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 12 2017, 08:02 PM)
i own a standard cvt persona.

1. What is the recommended tyre pressure? the manual says it is 210 for front tyres and 190 for back tyres. is that enough?
2. When you stop at a slope, does hill stop assist kick start automatically? i.e it will not go backwards if you are on D gear?
3. When you stop at a slope and you want to accelerate, I notice that you need to press the pedal quite hard for it to move
4. Does persona support phone charger? If so what brand would you guys recommend?
5. Any specific phone holder that you guys can recommend? I tend to use waze a lot due to me being a new driver and i need a phone holder to hold the phone while i'm driving

Thank you in advance guys!
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1) The manual also say that you need to take into consideration the number of passengers and the car boot load. I just pump it to 220 all round and hope the stock tyres can go botak sooner so I can tell wife, wife, tyres already botak, can change or not? smile.gif

2) When on slope, HSA kick-in when the pedal brake is pressed. I read somewhere that hand brake is not counted but I have not tried it. The car won't gostan if you press the gas pedal with 2-3 second after you released the foot brake.

3) Depend on the slope gradient.

4) The 12v socket in front of the CVT should be able to support the phone charger. Brand wise, it all depend on what the shop carried but don't buy cheap, cheap. I intend to go to Lowyat to get one.

5) Can't answer you.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:30 PM)
For quiet and comfort you can try CC6, seen a lot good review about its quietness and comfort. But since this is not a performance tyre, don't expect for superior wet grip
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the stock silverstone kruzer is super f****ing loud idk why. Anyone here finds out that the tyre noise of the persona is sooo loud? I think michelin primacy is pretty good too!
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 12 2017, 08:46 PM)
1) The manual also say that you need to take into consideration the number of passengers and the car boot load. I just pump it to 220 all round and hope the stock tyres can go botak sooner so I can tell wife, wife, tyres already botak, can change or not? smile.gif

2) When on slope, HSA kick-in when the pedal brake is pressed. I read somewhere that hand brake is not counted but I have not tried it. The car won't gostan if you press the gas pedal with 2-3 second after you released the foot brake.

3) Depend on the slope gradient.

4) The 12v socket in front of the CVT should be able to support the phone charger. Brand wise, it all depend on what the shop carried but don't buy cheap, cheap. I intend to go to Lowyat to get one.

5) Can't answer you.
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5) any pasar malam phone holder will do. Ive been using mine for like 5 yrs

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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460km with 2 bar left fulamak.... My cvt persona can only manage to go 430km with 70% highway 30% city hahahahaha. Manual persona is so much more efficient than the cvt. Mind telling whats the rpm when u r going at around 100kmh?
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QUOTE(oldgoat @ Mar 12 2017, 08:17 PM)
Yours is MT? Boss also drive MT? Whereas most of us drive CVT.

It ls stated that at constant 90kph, MT use less fuel than CVT.

So, do we have to take this into consideration when comparing FC?
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Just to see only.. these figure can tell something more about our similarity of driving condition

By right MT and CVT shouldn't differ too much in fuel consumption.. but there's one more MT owner say the FC is bad too... so let's see

QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 12 2017, 08:52 PM)
the stock silverstone kruzer is super f****ing loud idk why. Anyone here finds out that the tyre noise of the persona is sooo loud? I think michelin primacy is pretty good too!
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Yes, the stock Silverstone is very loud. Somehow I do find it pretty grippy... so far I never skid except boss
Not sure if I already used to it or the tire run in already, I find the noise is less annoying/loud now...

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 12 2017, 09:02 PM)
460km with 2 bar left fulamak.... My cvt persona can only manage to go 430km with 70% highway 30% city hahahahaha. Manual persona is so much more efficient than the cvt. Mind telling whats the rpm when u r going at around 100kmh?
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Based on gear ratio calculation along with current stock tire setup, we are getting around 103km/h at 3k rpm for 5th gear
If based on meter, around 2.8-2.9k rpm at 100km/h
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How about Conti MC5? Price should be slightly higher den cc6 I guess. P
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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You mean get this info from the meter cluster?
But anyhow my cvt won't be close to your FC.
Last few days I have been driving super eco ly. And gosh it's really boring. I used to drive 80-110kmh easily on highway but now I just can only take the middle lane and sometimes the slow lane, at 60kmh or max 80kmh. FC improved with additional 50km for half tank. If drive like this still not good FC then the engine really can throw d...I not yet pump petrol so will try again this time with full tank.

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Just now I use my obd2 to read the data from ecu, I am using torque lite Android app with my Bluetooth obd2. The only thing closest to the engine temperature that I can see from the app is "engine coolant temperature" . Others are not relevant. Maybe if use the paid version can get more info. But anyway, this is what I saw

60c to 74c = our 2 bars
75c onwards is 3 bars.

Driving from usj to puchong, I keep an eye on the app, the whole journey, the temperature is between 75-78c

Not sure this helps
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 12 2017, 11:51 PM)
You mean get this info from the meter cluster?
But anyhow my cvt won't be close to your FC.
Last few days I have been driving super eco ly. And gosh it's really boring. I used to drive 80-110kmh easily on highway but now I just can only take the middle lane and sometimes the slow lane, at 60kmh or max 80kmh. FC improved with additional 50km for half tank. If drive like this still not good FC then the engine really can throw d...I not yet pump petrol so will try again this time with full tank.
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Ya, from the meter cluster... I always reset at each full fuel up.

But however, I would suggest to drive the car the way you like, you don't have to follow our ah pek style driving to get good FC since I believe the motive you got this car is not just for the FC or you would have go for Bezza instead.

If it makes u to be another person that you don't feel comfortable with, just drive the way you like would make u a happier man flex.gif

Another worth mentioning torture for fuel save is not to hit down the accelerator too much when going uphill, best if you can just maintain the throttle. But this will be Super unsatisfying watching your speed drop, cars at your back is getting closer to you but still not doing anything to it laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 12 2017, 11:57 PM)
Just now I use my obd2 to read the data from ecu, I am using torque lite Android app with my Bluetooth obd2. The only thing closest to the engine temperature that I can see from the app is "engine coolant temperature" . Others are not relevant. Maybe if use the paid version can get more info. But anyway, this is what I saw

60c to 74c = our 2 bars
75c onwards is 3 bars.

Driving from usj to puchong, I keep an eye on the app, the whole journey, the temperature is between 75-78c

Not sure this helps
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If this is accurate, I guess the engine operate at pretty normal temperature, just that the temperature bar between 2nd and 3rd is within the optimal operating temperature, a slight change would make it drop to 2nd bar
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 13 2017, 12:01 AM)
Ya, from the meter cluster... I always reset at each full fuel up.

But however, I would suggest to drive the car the way you like, you don't have to follow our ah pek style driving to get good FC since I believe the motive you got this car is not just for the FC or you would have go for Bezza instead.

If it makes u to be another person that you don't feel comfortable with, just drive the way you like would make u a happier man  flex.gif

Another worth mentioning torture for fuel save is not to hit down the accelerator too much when going uphill, best if you can just maintain the throttle. But this will be Super unsatisfying watching your speed drop, cars at your back is getting closer to you but still not doing anything to it  laugh.gif
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You hit My point bro. It's really unsatisfying to have to force my self to drive like this but if I don't drive like this and follow my own driving style, it will be drinking fuel like nobody business. Fc is worse than my old car. Still trying to accept this fact tbh
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 12:23 AM)
You hit My point bro. It's really unsatisfying to have to force my self to drive like this but if I don't drive like this and follow my own driving style, it will be drinking fuel like nobody business. Fc is worse than my old car. Still trying to accept this fact tbh
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Too bad this Persona can't have both FC and Power at once...

It actually applies to other car also... I read somewhere that the Inspira 1.8MT has FC worse than Iswara 1.5 AT because he always floor to metal on both car. Not sure he's joking or for real sweat.gif

I think Inspirian should know who i'm talking about in case they are reading this whistling.gif
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 13 2017, 12:36 AM)
Too bad this Persona can't have both FC and Power at once...

It actually applies to other car also... I read somewhere that the Inspira 1.8MT has FC worse than Iswara 1.5 AT because he always floor to metal on both car. Not sure he's joking or for real  sweat.gif

I think Inspirian should know who i'm talking about in case they are reading this  whistling.gif
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Doesn't happen to all cars but yes, some. In my opinion, a car should be reasonable fc when driving normally within the speed range that we normally use, for example below 100kmh then the engine has a balance of fc and power. Not necessary must be very powerful but the keyword is balance. If a car need to drive like this like that only can save fc then the engine is not friendly to the driver. I still think all these can be programmed in the ecu. Really no one attempted reflash the iriz?
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 12 2017, 11:57 PM)
Just now I use my obd2 to read the data from ecu, I am using torque lite Android app with my Bluetooth obd2. The only thing closest to the engine temperature that I can see from the app is "engine coolant temperature" . Others are not relevant. Maybe if use the paid version can get more info. But anyway, this is what I saw

60c to 74c = our 2 bars
75c onwards is 3 bars.

Driving from usj to puchong, I keep an eye on the app, the whole journey, the temperature is between 75-78c

Not sure this helps
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Thanks for the info man. So which means even the bar drop to 2 during your driving from usj to puchong is around 75-78c reading?
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 12 2017, 08:02 PM)

4. Does persona support phone charger? If so what brand would you guys recommend?

Thank you in advance guys!
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I'm using the XiaoMi USB Car Charger & I got it from kopiPeng
No problems with it so far thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 13 2017, 09:00 AM)
Thanks for the info man.  So which means even the bar drop to 2 during your driving from usj to puchong is around 75-78c reading?
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No.
It's constantly on 3 bars. Not a lot of highways.
If drop to 74c then it will go 2 bars but I don't think it matters.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 10:07 AM)
No.
It's constantly on 3 bars. Not a lot of highways.
If drop to 74c then it will go 2 bars but I don't think it matters.
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I agree, the bar give drivers a wrong impression of huge fluctuation and causes unnecessary anxiety.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 09:07 AM)
No.
It's constantly on 3 bars. Not a lot of highways.
If drop to 74c then it will go 2 bars but I don't think it matters.
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Just worry it might hit 70C? With 7 bars indicators, the step ratio should be wide enough, wonder why can't they fit in to the nominal bar.
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I'm using the XiaoMi USB Car Charger & I got it from kopiPeng
No problems with it so far  thumbsup.gif
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sifu..what is the function of this car skid symbol ar..the light is always on whenever i on my car and when i press on the button also this symbol light still remain on..  confused.gif  confused.gif

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You have to press the button and hold it for few seconds to turn it off.
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can i ask what is the functionality of a car charger since we already have a usb port in the car? sorry newbie here.
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 10 2017, 05:52 PM)
All CVT owner, did you guys aware your temp gauge? It will be normal for 3 bars, when you drive on highway, 110-120, especially morning and night, it will reduce to 2 bars? Wanna collect more info before check with SC. So far i know only 2 people having this issue including me.
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Mine was never more than 2 bar. Then I took the car to SC because I thought the thermostat might be broken. The foreman plug the laptop into the car and did something with it. Then I got the 3 bar. 2 weeks later, I went for 1000km service and now it's back to 2 bar.

QUOTE(anthraxxxx @ Mar 12 2017, 09:09 AM)
Experiencing the infamous dashboard rattling after 1 week of driving.
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Lol, same as you but a bit lazy to sent it to SC yet since the sound is still acceptable for me.

One thing is my left back passenger side window got large grinding sound when open and close it. Fortunately hardly use that window and will repair it when going for 10k km service.
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actually what is the function of the Radio's AF TA and REG buttons?
i know AF is like auto frequency but what about the rest?
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:27 AM)
can i ask what is the functionality of a car charger since we already have a usb port in the car? sorry newbie here.
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In my case, I prefer to use a car charger as its closer to the phone holder I have - which is mounted on the dash. Since its closer; I use a shorter charging cable. Secondly, the additional port on this particular XiaoMi USB charger is available to charge other devices that may need to be mounted on the windscreen, dashboard or air-conditioning vent i.e GPS, Dashcam etc.

The USB ports provided in the car are just aft of the handbrake lever. I prefer to leave that for the rear passengers; also didn't want cables cluttering up the hand brake lever area.
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 13 2017, 09:22 AM)
I agree, the bar give drivers a wrong impression of huge fluctuation and causes unnecessary anxiety.
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Yeah.. thats worried me alot. I have been read through many temp related post previously due to car overtemp previously for my other car. Thats why I'm quite sensitive with this.

QUOTE(totorohui10 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:41 AM)
Mine was never more than 2 bar. Then I took the car to SC because I thought the thermostat might be broken. The foreman plug the laptop into the car and did something with it. Then I got the 3 bar. 2 weeks later, I went for 1000km service and now it's back to 2 bar.
Lol, same as you but a bit lazy to sent it to SC yet since the sound is still acceptable for me.

One thing is my left back passenger side window got large grinding sound when open and close it. Fortunately hardly use that window and will repair it when going for 10k km service.
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Wow, means they did fine tune something in ECU, but after you service, it reset back to default.
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QUOTE(cheeshong @ Mar 13 2017, 11:12 AM)
actually what is the function of the Radio's AF TA and REG buttons?
i know AF is like auto frequency but what about the rest?
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This might help..Radio Data System
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This might help..Radio Data System
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good info. Copy and Paste here for others' easy referencing

AF (alternative frequencies)
This allows a receiver to re-tune to a different frequency providing the same station when the first signal becomes too weak (e.g., when moving out of range). This is often used in car stereo systems.

TA, TP (traffic announcement, traffic programme)
The receiver can often be set to pay special attention to this flag and, for example, stop the tape/pause the CD or retune to receive a traffic bulletin. The TP flag is used to allow the user to find only those stations that regularly broadcast traffic bulletins whereas the TA flag is used to signal an actual traffic bulletin in progress, with radio units perhaps performing other actions such as stopping a cassette tape (so the radio can be heard) or raising the volume during the traffic bulletin.


REG (regional)
This is mainly used in countries where national broadcasters run "region-specific" programming such as regional opt-outs on some of their transmitters. This functionality allows the user to "lock-down" the set to their current region or let the radio tune into other region-specific programming as they move into the other region.
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good info. Copy and Paste here for others' easy referencing

AF (alternative frequencies)
This allows a receiver to re-tune to a different frequency providing the same station when the first signal becomes too weak (e.g., when moving out of range). This is often used in car stereo systems.

TA, TP (traffic announcement, traffic programme)
The receiver can often be set to pay special attention to this flag and, for example, stop the tape/pause the CD or retune to receive a traffic bulletin. The TP flag is used to allow the user to find only those stations that regularly broadcast traffic bulletins whereas the TA flag is used to signal an actual traffic bulletin in progress, with radio units perhaps performing other actions such as stopping a cassette tape (so the radio can be heard) or raising the volume during the traffic bulletin.
REG (regional)
This is mainly used in countries where national broadcasters run "region-specific" programming such as regional opt-outs on some of their transmitters. This functionality allows the user to "lock-down" the set to their current region or let the radio tune into other region-specific programming as they move into the other region.
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So only first one is useful?? Anyone try to pair HU with iphone? while using waze, is that possible to listen the radio? I try pair but it didn't speak when I in radio mode. When in phone mode, I can't listen radio >.<
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good info. Copy and Paste here for others' easy referencing

AF (alternative frequencies)
This allows a receiver to re-tune to a different frequency providing the same station when the first signal becomes too weak (e.g., when moving out of range). This is often used in car stereo systems.

TA, TP (traffic announcement, traffic programme)
The receiver can often be set to pay special attention to this flag and, for example, stop the tape/pause the CD or retune to receive a traffic bulletin. The TP flag is used to allow the user to find only those stations that regularly broadcast traffic bulletins whereas the TA flag is used to signal an actual traffic bulletin in progress, with radio units perhaps performing other actions such as stopping a cassette tape (so the radio can be heard) or raising the volume during the traffic bulletin.
REG (regional)
This is mainly used in countries where national broadcasters run "region-specific" programming such as regional opt-outs on some of their transmitters. This functionality allows the user to "lock-down" the set to their current region or let the radio tune into other region-specific programming as they move into the other region.
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Btw, I've de-selected all those tabs. The HU still hangs occasionally but the "auto volume up-down syndrome" has subsided. Annoying at times, but that's what Proton has installed on our cars & the Iriz. ranting.gif

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My SA didn't pump full tank for me (minus one bar to full tanK). Total distance traveled was 171 KM until the blinking refuel icon comes out. Kinda underwhelming. Hopefully it will improve significantly after the first 1000 KM service.
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anyone know how the Hill Start Assistant works for MT? i always get engine mati due to my bad clutching feeling sad.gif
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You have to press the button and hold it for few seconds to turn it off.
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yuppie..thanks tested and its working rclxms.gif

can advise which is good off or on notworthy.gif

if it;s off i can see another symbol on my car meter showed up.
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yuppie..thanks tested and its working  rclxms.gif

can advise which is good off or on  notworthy.gif

if it;s off i can see another symbol on my car meter showed up.
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If you wanna be a drift king then can off it icon_idea.gif tongue.gif else on it to avoid being slipped.
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Newbie Question:

Can show/tell me which part of the car you did soundproof?

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:27 AM)
can i ask what is the functionality of a car charger since we already have a usb port in the car? sorry newbie here.
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Because standard variant no USB port ranting.gif
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QUOTE(Boss262 @ Mar 11 2017, 01:29 PM)
Thinking on doing 10K service in Mutiara Damansara SC, anyone have experience dealing with them. I'm trying to fix the rattling noise and also some minor issues with them.
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I have good experience with mutiara damansara platinum center , but read in this thread sometimes they do unneccessary things .

as long as my car is healthy i dont mind overspending...

just dont want to stop at the road side with family anytime ( God Forbade )
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Mar 13 2017, 12:35 PM)
yuppie..thanks tested and its working  rclxms.gif

can advise which is good off or on  notworthy.gif

if it;s off i can see another symbol on my car meter showed up.
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On is definitely the best. Only off when you want to do drifting. Hehe

Also off when using your spare tire or your car stuck in the mud/sand or something like that.
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Hey guys just did 1000km service but the periodic inspection signal is still on the lcd screen in the speedometer. Normal ah? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif blink.gif blink.gif
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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 13 2017, 06:27 PM)
Hey guys just did 1000km service but the periodic inspection signal is still on the lcd screen in the speedometer. Normal ah?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
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I think the mechanic probably forgotten to reset it.

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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 13 2017, 12:30 PM)
anyone know how the Hill Start Assistant works for MT? i always get engine mati due to my bad clutching feeling sad.gif
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Hill hold assist kick in right after u came to a complete stop on a slope, once comes to a full stop, you release the brake pedal the car will hold to it on its on for a few seconds. until you engage your gear and clutch start biting, the hill hold assist will cancel on its own.

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QUOTE(paganizonda @ Mar 13 2017, 06:27 PM)
Hey guys just did 1000km service but the periodic inspection signal is still on the lcd screen in the speedometer. Normal ah?  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
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QUOTE(anthraxxxx @ Mar 13 2017, 08:41 PM)
I think the mechanic probably forgotten to reset it.
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Shouldn't cause any problem other than the display keep showing need inspection, you may take it to service centre to get it reset if that's an eyesore

Meanwhile for mine at 1k km service they ter-reset to 20k km/12 months for next service doh.gif
But I didn't do anything since I don't really mind that...
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anyone know how to disable the car key alarm.. keep accidentally pressed that stupid button ranting.gif
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QUOTE(skynet2020 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:26 PM)
anyone know how to disable the car key alarm.. keep accidentally pressed that stupid button  ranting.gif
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Press unlocking on the remote?
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 12 2017, 08:06 PM)
cheeshong drsmallkid and those who got less than 280km for 1 tank

Care to share your Average speed and total driving time for that fuel up?

For my last fuel up I get around average of 45km/h and somewhere 12 hours drive time, most of other fuel up, I got similar reading as well.

It manage to travel around 460km and still have 2 bars left... the fuel up got me around 31 litre of fuel. total time involved in bumper to bumper traffic is around 2 hours for this fuel up... the rest is mix highway and city drive 50 50
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Average 43km/h @ 14hours drive @32.6L @280KM 80%City 20% Highway
CVT doh.gif
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The driver powered window side... going down is Auto...but going up isn't??
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QUOTE(Jspot @ Mar 12 2017, 07:47 AM)
Hi all,my car got a kind of noise during braking almost to full stop ,sound like "krup krup krup",and "clik clik " noise during reverse or forward on slope, got anyone face this two problem ?
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I had this sound too , brought it to SC and ask them to check few weeks ago, the technician said he couldn't hear anything -.-"
So I continue to drive normally , but until few days ago, the sound was miraculously gone.
The thing is I think the sound is not everytime there, i realize the sound is very obvious during hot weather and your car was running non stop for more than 6 hours (was doing grab car few weeks ago).
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The driver powered window side... going down is Auto...but going up isn't??
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Down is auto , going up is not auto bro
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QUOTE(zcutiecutez @ Mar 13 2017, 10:58 PM)
I had this sound too , brought it to SC and ask them to check few weeks ago, the technician said he couldn't hear anything -.-"
So I continue to drive normally , but until few days ago, the sound was miraculously gone.
The thing is I think the sound is not everytime there, i realize the sound is very obvious during hot weather and your car was running non stop for more than 6 hours (was doing grab car few weeks ago).
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Is it worth do grab car with persona?
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Press unlocking on the remote?
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The red emergency alarm..i want to disable this button forever..do u know how to do this?

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Average 43km/h @ 14hours drive @32.6L @280KM 80%City 20% Highway
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Have you done the 1000 KM service?
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Have you done the 1000 KM service?
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Done already... now at 2K+
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CVT user,
my car got weird behaviour,
1)When at "N", and you try to rev it flatuates at 2700-2900rpm like losing power!! and doesn't go beyond 3000rpm.
2)When AC OFF, you rev lets say 2000rpm, than you turn ON AC, it drops to 500-300rpm!

Anyone else car got this behaviour?
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 14 2017, 06:06 AM)
CVT user,
my car got weird behaviour,
1)When at "N", and you try to rev it flatuates at 2700-2900rpm like losing power!! and doesn't go beyond 3000rpm.
2)When AC OFF, you rev lets say 2000rpm, than you turn ON AC, it drops to 500-300rpm!

Anyone else car got this behaviour?
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1. It normal, ecu wont let u rev above 3k rpm
2. Normal becausw typical campro and big size compressor
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 13 2017, 12:30 PM)
anyone know how the Hill Start Assistant works for MT? i always get engine mati due to my bad clutching feeling sad.gif
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Maybe u need press more oil pedal when releasing clutch.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:14 PM)
Hill hold assist kick in right after u came to a complete stop on a slope, once comes to a full stop, you release the brake pedal the car will hold to it on its on for a few seconds. until you engage your gear and clutch start biting, the hill hold assist will cancel on its own.
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I encounter once when have 2 adult at the back, when stop at the slope at car park when jam, it fall back. Scare us..

QUOTE(zcutiecutez @ Mar 13 2017, 10:58 PM)
I had this sound too , brought it to SC and ask them to check few weeks ago, the technician said he couldn't hear anything -.-"
So I continue to drive normally , but until few days ago, the sound was miraculously gone.
The thing is I think the sound is not everytime there, i realize the sound is very obvious during hot weather and your car was running non stop for more than 6 hours (was doing grab car few weeks ago).
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My car also having crog crog sound when tekan brake, maybe have since day1, not really pay much attention. cry.gif
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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 14 2017, 06:06 AM)
CVT user,
my car got weird behaviour,
1)When at "N", and you try to rev it flatuates at 2700-2900rpm like losing power!! and doesn't go beyond 3000rpm.
2)When AC OFF, you rev lets say 2000rpm, than you turn ON AC, it drops to 500-300rpm!

Anyone else car got this behaviour?
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I guess this is the first time you own a car? laugh.gif
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I guess this is the first time you own a car?  laugh.gif
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I think rev limiter around 3k abit low gua. I thought common car should have rev limiter around 4k RPM during idle?.
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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 14 2017, 10:18 AM)
I think rev limiter around 3k abit low gua. I thought common car should have rev limiter around 4k RPM during idle?.
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Oh... I was referring to the point No. 2. "When AC OFF, you rev lets say 2000rpm, than you turn ON AC, it drops to 500-300rpm!" tongue.gif

Regarding the rev limiter during idle, I am not sure. I do not own a Persona VVT lol.

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QUOTE(drsmallkid @ Mar 14 2017, 06:06 AM)
CVT user,
my car got weird behaviour,
1)When at "N", and you try to rev it flatuates at 2700-2900rpm like losing power!! and doesn't go beyond 3000rpm.
2)When AC OFF, you rev lets say 2000rpm, than you turn ON AC, it drops to 500-300rpm!

Anyone else car got this behaviour?
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Will try tonight and let you know.

300rpm is low. engine supposing nearly off during that time. or you means drop 300-500 rpm from 2k? means around 1.5krpm?

btw, what for to test #2?

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QUOTE(firegal @ Mar 14 2017, 10:39 AM)
Will try tonight and let you know.

300rpm is low. engine supposing nearly off during that time. or you means drop 300-500 rpm from 2k? means around 1.5krpm?

btw, what for to test #2?
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I think he means dropped 300-500rpm. It's impossible to idle at 300rpm haha.
When the aircond compressor kicks in it will draw power from the engine and hence the engine RPM will drop a little bit before revving up by itself to prevent ithe engine from dying off due to low RPM.
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QUOTE(zAciX @ Mar 13 2017, 12:30 PM)
anyone know how the Hill Start Assistant works for MT? i always get engine mati due to my bad clutching feeling sad.gif
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On a slope:

1. Press gear and hold brake

2. Switch gear 1

3. Release clutch and brake gradually

4. Feel the power of engine pulling u forward but still not moving

5. Press minimum gas to cancel hold
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