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post Nov 3 2016, 08:20 PM, updated 5 months ago

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Latest Drivers:
Radeon Software 20.10.1 - Latest
Crimson 16.2.1 - Legacy
Leshcatlabs Mobile Driver - [Discontinued]
AMD Catalyst DLLs repository

Issue report: http://www.amd.com/betareport

Softwares - Monitoring,Tweaking and Overclocking
1. RadeonPro - [Discontinued]
2. MSI Afterburner 4.x - Latest
3. ASUS GPU Tweak - Latest Beta
4. Sapphire TriXX 6.3.0

Softwares - Monitoring and Utility
1. GPU-Z
2. Display Driver Uninstaller a.k.a DDU

Softwares - Stress tools
1. OCCT 3.1 - Newer versions don't quite stress the card as much.
2. OCCT 4.3.2 - Latest build
3. HWiNFO64 - Versatile monitoring tool

Softwares - Benchmark Tools
1. 3DMark - 2013
2. 3DMark11
3. Unigine - Valley

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post Nov 3 2016, 10:41 PM

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wow new thread already, still waiting for vega. where is it ?
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post Nov 3 2016, 10:45 PM

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planning to sell my sapphire tri x r9 290x ?

wonder how much it can sell ?

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post Nov 4 2016, 04:54 AM

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China JD was having promotion selling RX470 for RMB999-1099…

y m'sia no such offer sad.gif
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post Nov 4 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 3 2016, 10:41 PM)
wow new thread already, still waiting for vega. where is it ?
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Vega already spotted in leaked/beta driver so probably hopefully few more months.

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Nov 4 2016, 04:54 AM)
China JD was having promotion selling RX470 for RMB999-1099…

y m'sia no such offer sad.gif
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Because of different market size maybe.
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post Nov 4 2016, 10:17 AM

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can tarpow a ps4 pro anytime

http://www.pcgamer.com/zotac-stuffs-radeon...-ready-mini-pc/
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post Nov 4 2016, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 4 2016, 10:17 AM)
But will cost much more than a PS4 Pro. tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2016, 01:00 PM

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Seem like this year COD still favoring AMD GCN.

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post Nov 4 2016, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 4 2016, 01:00 PM)
Seem like this year COD still favoring AMD GCN.

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Nah, that game is well optimised.. it runs smoothly on both camp products. B1 dx12 mode is more amd favored.
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post Nov 4 2016, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 4 2016, 12:47 PM)
But will cost much more than a PS4 Pro.  tongue.gif
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Yeah for sure
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 4 2016, 01:00 PM)
Seem like this year COD still favoring AMD GCN.

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why "still", back then COD favouring AMD?.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Nov 4 2016, 08:16 PM)
why "still", back then COD favouring AMD?.
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Ya COD BO III also ran better on AMD, due to the VRAM usage or something else I guess. Seems like RX 480 is beating the 1060 in some latest games like BF1 and Titanfall 2, FH3, although not by a huge margin in most.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 4 2016, 09:23 PM)
Will the price cut ever reach Malaysia? hmm.gif
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You know AMD MY, Probably never.

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post Nov 5 2016, 11:07 AM

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1050 ti killer on the loose soon, or is it 1060 3gb killer in terms of price hope AMD gets the price right this time.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeo...benchmarks.html
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 5 2016, 11:07 AM)
1050 ti killer on the loose soon, or is it 1060 3gb killer in terms of price hope AMD gets the price right this time.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeo...benchmarks.html
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this rumors came out quite some times already, early rumors said that it will be available in China only.
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post Nov 5 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Nov 4 2016, 08:16 PM)
why "still", back then COD favouring AMD?.
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BLOPS3 perform better with AMD cards while Advanced Warfare and previous titles perform better on Nvidia cards.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 4 2016, 09:23 PM)
Will the price cut ever reach Malaysia? hmm.gif
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We will, many months later... kot.

QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 5 2016, 11:07 AM)
1050 ti killer on the loose soon, or is it 1060 3gb killer in terms of price hope AMD gets the price right this time.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeo...benchmarks.html
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It's not exclusive for China market? I hope they pull this off.

Well, the MSRP is right but actual market price is lousy.
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post Nov 5 2016, 12:11 PM

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Btw Crimson 16.11.2 already out, will edit this post cause I'm on mobile right now.
Download here.

Anyone can test this driver with GTA:5?
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Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.11.2 Highlights

Support For:
-Improved Shader Cache storage limit. This will allow the Shader Cache feature to store more shaders for extremely demanding games that may have previously hit the old storage cap.

Known Issues
-A few game titles may fail to launch, experience performance issues or crash if the third party application "Raptr" has its game overlay enabled. A workaround is to disable the overlay if this is experienced.
-DOTA™2 may experience a crash when launched using the Vulkan™ API on some Graphics Core Next products.
-Battlefield™1 may experience an intermittent application specific error message popup citing graphics device removal
-Flickering may be experience while playing Overwatch™ in the main menu or viewing character models using AMD CrossFire mode.
-H.264 content playback may experience playback issues on internet browsers with hardware acceleration when also running gaming applications or content.
-FIFA 17™ may experience an application hang or black screen on launch for some select Hybrid Graphics or AMD PowerXpress mobile configurations.
-H.264 content may experience blocky corruption when streaming using P2P content players on some Radeon RX 400 series graphics products.


This driver also include 16.11.1 fixes and improvement.

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Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.11.1 Highlights

Support For:
-Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
-Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered

New AMD CrossFire profile added for DirectX11:
-Titanfall2

Fixed Issues
-AMD XConnect Technology will now allow Microsoft Office applications to migrate to iGPU on unplug.
-Flickering may be observed on some surfaces in a few maps or locations in Battlefield 1 in AMD CrossFire mode.
-Radeon R9 390 graphics series may experience a crash or application hang when running Unigine™ Heaven using OpenGL.
-The Radeon WattMan feature may intermittently display a Radeon Software popup error regarding Radeon WattMan for non-supported products.
-The Division™ may experience an application freeze or hang when running in AMD CrossFire mode after extended periods of play.
-OBS screen capture may stutter after extended periods of use while capturing video and watching or streaming content in a web browser.


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post Nov 5 2016, 09:00 PM

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a user reported 3dmark11 score increase on rx480.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5b7mr...rk_i_saved_has/
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That is some smooth gameplay, wonder if he's using freesync monitor.
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...and the hype train goes again whistling.gif

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-summit-ridge-1...y-launch-rumor/
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post Nov 18 2016, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(kundek @ Nov 18 2016, 09:05 AM)
got new update this morning...guess its a beta driver
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Yes, thanks for that. Can download here.

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Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.11.4 Highlights

Support For:
-Sid Meier's Civilization® VI

Fixed Issues
-H.264 content playback may experience playback issues on internet browsers with hardware acceleration when also running gaming applications or content.
-Radeon R9 Fury Series products may experience minor graphical corruption in Titanfall™2 when inside a titan.

Known Issues
-A few game titles may fail to launch, experience performance issues or crash if the third party application "Raptr" has its game overlay enabled. A workaround is to disable the overlay if this is experienced.
-DOOM™ may experience a crash when launched using the Vulkan™ API on some Graphics Core Next products.
-DOTA™2 may experience a crash when launched using the Vulkan™ API on some Graphics Core Next products.
-Flickering may be experience while playing Overwatch™ in the main menu or viewing character models using AMD CrossFire mode.
-FIFA 17™ may experience an application hang or black screen on launch for some select Hybrid Graphics or AMD PowerXpress mobile configurations.
-H.264 content may experience blocky corruption when streaming using P2P content players on some Radeon RX 400 series graphics products.


QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Nov 18 2016, 12:45 PM)
Judging from leaked pricing of Kabylake i bet Intel didn't see Zen as competitor to Skylake at all.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 18 2016, 12:52 PM)
Yes, thanks for that. Can download here.
Judging from leaked pricing of Kabylake i bet Intel didn't see Zen as competitor to Skylake at all.
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somehow, deep inside, alot of consumer will like to try or use it as 2nd pc. that core is very yummy and i hope the OC is as fun as last time - Phenom era where i learn how to OC biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Nov 18 2016, 12:55 PM)
somehow, deep inside, alot of consumer will like to try or use it as 2nd pc. that core is very yummy and i hope the OC is as fun as last time - Phenom era where i learn how to OC  biggrin.gif
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I learn from Thoroughbred and Barton era, that was fun. laugh.gif

Meanwhile AMD stock reach over $8 today. rclxms.gif Hope the momentum continue.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 18 2016, 01:08 PM)
I learn from Thoroughbred and Barton era, that was fun.  laugh.gif

Meanwhile AMD stock reach over $8 today. rclxms.gif  Hope the momentum continue.
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Haha great amd comeback laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 18 2016, 01:08 PM)
I learn from Thoroughbred and Barton era, that was fun.  laugh.gif

Meanwhile AMD stock reach over $8 today. rclxms.gif  Hope the momentum continue.
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hopefully zen will give some good competition to intel , skylake pricing is way off peasant levels like me cry.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 11:01 AM

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Incoming big annual update? What you guys think?

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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Just found a Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 480 OC 8GB at RM1341, that with 15% coupon, is around RM1140. That's a good price right..?
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Rumor:

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-490-vr-4k-december/

Lets start the hype train... brows.gif laugh.gif

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post Nov 24 2016, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Nov 23 2016, 09:06 PM)
Rumor:

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-490-vr-4k-december/

Lets start the hype train...  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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Just sit back and enjoy the show rclxms.gif , still got hope for AMD
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Cheap Fury Nitro on Newegg till Sunday, don't know if Newegg offer International shipping like Amazon, can always use Borderlinx if not though.

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Sauce: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...2-186-_-Product

QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Nov 23 2016, 05:54 PM)
Just found a Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 480 OC 8GB at RM1341, that with 15% coupon, is around RM1140. That's a good price right..?
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Good price imo.

QUOTE(yhsiau @ Nov 23 2016, 09:06 PM)
Rumor:

http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-490-vr-4k-december/

Lets start the hype train...  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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WCCF got nothing about 490. laugh.gif
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Would be cheap, if not due to our ringgit crashing down like heck, yea.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 24 2016, 10:26 AM)
Cheap Fury Nitro on Newegg till Sunday, don't know if Newegg offer International shipping like Amazon, can always use Borderlinx if not though.

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Sauce: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...2-186-_-Product
Good price imo.
WCCF got nothing about 490. laugh.gif
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if our ringgit was at 3.80 will be below 1k cry.gif
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No time to cry mang. laugh.gif
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if amd can produce something on par with gtx 1070 i'd gladly buy it to couple with XG2401 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 24 2016, 12:29 PM)
No time to cry mang. laugh.gif
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ringgit weak if item more than rm500 kena tax lagi cry.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 24 2016, 02:38 PM)
ringgit weak if item more than rm500 kena tax lagi  cry.gif
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Tax how much? I did not know that.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 24 2016, 06:34 PM)
Tax how much? I did not know that.
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i read in bordelinx faq. never bought anything above rm500 overseas
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Looks like TPU starts another 490 hype..

https://www.techpowerup.com/228136/amd-read...90-for-december

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Nov 25 2016, 05:44 PM)
Looks like amd is doubling down on multi gpu? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Nov 27 2016, 01:07 AM)
Looks like amd is doubling down on multi gpu? hmm.gif
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i hope its not dual gpu.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 25 2016, 04:12 PM)
i read in bordelinx faq. never bought anything above rm500 overseas
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Just buy from forwarder

No tax payed

I bought RM600 worth of branded and i dont pay extra

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 24 2016, 12:29 PM)
No time to cry mang. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Nov 24 2016, 02:38 PM)
ringgit weak if item more than rm500 kena tax lagi  cry.gif
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Just man the fuk up and start earning more

Go figure laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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Crimson 16.11.5 for Watch_Doge 2. Apparently this is not a big release that i was expecting.
You can download it here.

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Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.11.5 Highlights

Support For:
-Watch Dogs®2

New AMD CrossFire profile added for DirectX® 11:
-Dishonored™2

Fixed Issues
-The Division™ game world may flicker during game play when using AMD CrossFire technology.
-Battlefield™1 flickering may be experienced while using AMD CrossFire technology mode.

Known Issues
-A few game titles may fail to launch, experience performance issues or crash if the third party application "Raptr" has its game overlay enabled. A workaround is to disable the overlay if this is experienced.
-AMD CrossFire technology mode is currently disabled for Windows®7 configurations with Dishonored™2
-Watch Dogs®2 may experience flickering or a game crash when using AMD CrossFire technology mode with Dual Radeon RX 480s.
-DOOM™ may experience a crash when launched using the Vulkan™ API on some Graphics Core Next products.
-DOTA™2 may experience a crash when launched using the Vulkan™ API on some Graphics Core Next products.
-Flickering may be experienced while playing Overwatch™ in the main menu or viewing character models using AMD CrossFire mode.
-FIFA 17™ may experience an application hang or black screen on launch for some select Hybrid Graphics or AMD PowerXpress mobile configurations.
-H.264 content may experience blocky corruption when streaming using P2P content players on some Radeon RX 400 series graphics products.

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Just bought a 31.5 inch AOC Free-Sync monitor for my Malaysian PC setup.

Will probably try AMD's next generation to utilise the Free-Sync.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 1 2016, 10:48 AM)
Just bought a 31.5 inch AOC Free-Sync monitor for my Malaysian PC setup.

Will probably try AMD's next generation to utilise the Free-Sync.
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isnt it 1080p for 31.5"? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Darksorrow3010 @ Dec 1 2016, 01:07 PM)
isnt it 1080p for 31.5"?  sweat.gif
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My mistake, it is 1080p.

I am anyways gaming on a 47inch 1080p tv over here. Would be interested to try out curved monitor on a budget.

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 1 2016, 10:48 AM)
Just bought a 31.5 inch AOC Free-Sync monitor for my Malaysian PC setup.

Will probably try AMD's next generation to utilise the Free-Sync.
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how much is it bro ? whats the model code
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 1 2016, 02:15 PM)
how much is it bro ? whats the model code
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Model: AOC Agon 31.5" AG322FCX FreeSync Gaming Monitor @144Hz - Curved(Black)

RM1,890 ++

Source: Lazada Malaysia



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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 1 2016, 02:28 PM)
Model: AOC Agon 31.5" AG322FCX FreeSync Gaming Monitor @144Hz - Curved(Black)

RM1,890 ++

Source: Lazada Malaysia
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Wah.. 1080P for 32"? Almost like TV leh..how you used/the setup for the monitor?
I mean.. do you use it for browsing..etc?

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 1 2016, 02:30 PM)
Wah.. 1080P for 32"? Almost like TV leh..how you used/the setup for the monitor?
I mean.. do you use it for browsing..etc?
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My mistake, it is 1080p.

I will be using this monitor for everything.

As I mentioned, I have been using a 47inch TV as monitor for more than 4 years. I am able to game and work on it as well.
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http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-490-gpu-...ing-benchmarks/

*prepares popcorn and Pepsi* Can't wait to see the comments section brows.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 1 2016, 10:33 PM)
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-490-gpu-...ing-benchmarks/

*prepares popcorn and Pepsi*  Can't wait to see the comments section brows.gif
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Specifications seems better than a Titan Pascal.

More competition is always good for the consumer.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 1 2016, 02:28 PM)
Model: AOC Agon 31.5" AG322FCX FreeSync Gaming Monitor @144Hz - Curved(Black)

RM1,890 ++

Source: Lazada Malaysia
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fuhhh looks nice can become tv already its huge 32"
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 2 2016, 09:23 AM)
Specifications seems better than a Titan Pascal.

More competition is always good for the consumer.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 2 2016, 01:12 PM)
fuhhh looks nice can become tv already its huge 32"
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Wanted to try curve and see how it feels for gaming.

Hope I get it before I return to Malaysia for Christmas.
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My random though/rant of the day...

AMD should release a Polaris 11 card with full 16CU enabled and make it 4GB.
RX460 with 4GB just doesn't worth it. The GPU just don't have enough power to benefit all the RAM, and a higher price summore.

Many people say 4GB is future proof, but what's the point if the card cannot benefit from it? Still the better value for RX460 is at 2GB which most of the time performs just as much as 4GB version regardless what quality setting you set the game at. RM100 premium for extra 2GB of RAM at this level of performance just doesn't worth it.

There's currently a huge gap of price and performance between 460 and 470, and in between that it's easily filled by options from nvidia (1050Ti).

Unless AMD is keeping 16CU Polaris 11 for 5xx series next year that is.
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Hi guys. Just wanted to share/ask something here.

I had a problem with my monitor randomly losing signal and more consistently when playing games. Figured it was the gpu which was a 7870, 3 years age.

What I did

1. Made sure to update to latest driver. Problem still persisting.
2. Figured out to test solution with heaven benchmark. Works, usually before 1 loop the monitor will crash.
3. Played around with the OC, I did a small overclock last time, put it to the default asus oc, then default gpu oc. Problem still there. Restored to asus oc.
4. Used DDU to clean out drivers and installed 16.9.2. Seems to have worked. Ran heaven benchmark for about 30 minutes successfully.

Hopefully I have found the solution to my problem. Any of you guys with older cards have problems with the latest drivers?
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QUOTE(Ronin_Amin @ Dec 2 2016, 10:16 PM)
Hi guys. Just wanted to share/ask something here.

I had a problem with my monitor randomly losing signal and more consistently when playing games. Figured it was the gpu which was a 7870, 3 years age.

What I did

1. Made sure to update to latest driver. Problem still persisting.
2. Figured out to test solution with heaven benchmark. Works, usually before 1 loop the monitor will crash.
3. Played around with the OC, I did a small overclock last time, put it to the default asus oc, then default gpu oc. Problem still there. Restored to asus oc.
4. Used DDU to clean out drivers and installed 16.9.2. Seems to have worked. Ran heaven benchmark for about 30 minutes successfully.

Hopefully I have found the solution to my problem. Any of you guys with older cards have problems with the latest drivers?
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Losing 'signal' is more like the monitor problem?
Check your display cables.
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Losing 'signal' is more like the monitor problem?
Check your display cables.
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I'll have to buy new hdmi cables to try it out. But it seems like changing the drivers is reducing the frequency of the problem for the moment.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Dec 2 2016, 06:49 PM)
My random though/rant of the day...

AMD should release a Polaris 11 card with full 16CU enabled and make it 4GB.
RX460 with 4GB just doesn't worth it. The GPU just don't have enough power to benefit all the RAM, and a higher price summore.

Many people say 4GB is future proof, but what's the point if the card cannot benefit from it? Still the better value for RX460 is at 2GB which most of the time performs just as much as 4GB version regardless what quality setting you set the game at. RM100 premium for extra 2GB of RAM at this level of performance just doesn't worth it.

There's currently a huge gap of price and performance between 460 and 470, and in between that it's easily filled by options from nvidia (1050Ti).

Unless AMD is keeping 16CU Polaris 11 for 5xx series next year that is.
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Agreed with you. Sometimes i wonder why AMD did that.. rclxub.gif

I think RX460/470/480 would be replaced by Vega 11(lower version of Vega 10) if im not mistaken.


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HardwareCanucks did an updated reviews between 480 vs 1060 and....

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Different set of games iinm so not apple vs apple but 480 perform better in newer games so that's a trend i guess.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 6 2016, 02:57 PM)
HardwareCanucks did an updated reviews between 480 vs 1060 and....

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Different set of games iinm so not apple vs apple but 480 perform better in newer games so that's a trend i guess.
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Well i guess we can know where this is heading in the future icon_idea.gif.
Its great to see that the gap is getting closer and closer..
The only bad thing is, pricing of RX 480 here doh.gif
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my gpu-z no longer showing OpenCL checked after I updated to the latest crimson drivers. As an effect, my premiere pro no longer has hardware acceleration.

I DDU'd and reinstalled drivers, but OpenCL remains unchecked. Anyone knows why? My card is a R9 390
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QUOTE(JeffPompey @ Dec 4 2016, 05:22 PM)
RX490 Hype!Might change back to Red team due to my freesync monitor.
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 6 2016, 03:02 PM)
Well i guess we can know where this is heading in the future  icon_idea.gif.
Its great to see that the gap is getting closer and closer..
The only bad thing is, pricing of RX 480 here  doh.gif
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I thought less than 1500 is quite reasonable already oo laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Kclee2002 @ Dec 6 2016, 03:12 PM)
my gpu-z no longer showing OpenCL checked after I updated to the latest crimson drivers. As an effect, my premiere pro no longer has hardware acceleration.

I DDU'd and reinstalled drivers, but OpenCL remains unchecked. Anyone knows why? My card is a R9 390
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Maybe it's the latest driver problem? Did you try revert back to older driver?
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new monitor?, what monitor u used before?
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Old monitor was Acer Xb240h(non-gsync).Now Acer KG240A.Both have awful colours,well that what you get from going IPS 60hz monitor to 144hz tn monitor.
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QUOTE(JeffPompey @ Dec 6 2016, 06:11 PM)
Old monitor was Acer Xb240h(non-gsync).Now Acer KG240A.Both have awful colours,well that what you get from going IPS 60hz monitor to 144hz tn monitor.
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guys viewsonic having promo for freesync monitor

http://www.lazada.com.my/viewsonic/?searchredirect=viewsonic
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Apparently AMD will release their true competitor to ShadowplayShare with Radeon ReLive and another new feature that call Radeon Chill which I'm still skeptical about.

Next driver update gonna be huge.

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Okay I decided to go with Gigabyte G1 RX470 and probably pair it with a decent FreeSync monitor (thinking about LG 24MP68VQ..) sometime later. Have been neglecting my PC since my first son, time to get back in the game, I suppose icon_rolleyes.gif

The pull towards the green camp is strong, but I guess.. I'm a bit biased, and nostalgic too.
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This surely took an expected turn.
Has the GTX 980 been dominated by the RX 480 as well? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 7 2016, 11:06 AM)
guys viewsonic having promo for freesync monitor

http://www.lazada.com.my/viewsonic/?searchredirect=viewsonic
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Any particular model to look out for? So many models there. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Dec 7 2016, 02:56 PM)
Any particular model to look out for? So many models there. tongue.gif
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http://www.lazada.com.my/viewsonic-vx2757-...g-11027907.html this model is has great specs freesync 27" @ 899
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 7 2016, 03:01 PM)
http://www.lazada.com.my/viewsonic-vx2757-...g-11027907.html this model is has great specs freesync 27" @ 899
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That is a good price and good specs. Tempted now. Just that I am not sure if I can get used to TN panel, coming from IPS. Dilemma.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Dec 7 2016, 03:11 PM)
That is a good price and good specs. Tempted now. Just that I am not sure if I can get used to TN panel, coming from IPS. Dilemma.
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hahahahaha i was also tempted ,im also from IPS to go to TN i also in a dilemma, color reproduction could be an issue . But the price is super cheap for 27"
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How about LG 24MP68VQ? 24" though.

Okay derailing to monitor discussion tongue.gif
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I think this is the biggest driver update AMD have done in the past years, bigger than Omega imo.

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And now you can run Freesync in windowed mode which is my biggest complain about Freesync. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 7 2016, 06:28 PM)
I think this is the biggest driver update AMD have done in the past years, bigger than Omega imo.

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And now you can run Freesync in windowed mode which is my biggest complain about Freesync.  rclxm9.gif
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all these to prep new tech offered by rx 490 thumbup.gif AMD is looking good now hope they make a comeback
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 7 2016, 07:04 PM)
all these to prep new tech offered by rx 490  thumbup.gif AMD is looking good now hope they make a comeback
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I want a 490xxx to counter in coming 1080ti laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Dec 7 2016, 03:11 PM)
That is a good price and good specs. Tempted now. Just that I am not sure if I can get used to TN panel, coming from IPS. Dilemma.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 7 2016, 03:34 PM)
hahahahaha i was also tempted ,im also from IPS to go to TN i also in a dilemma, color reproduction could be an issue . But the price is super cheap for 27"
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Once ips forever ips mang laugh.gif rclxms.gif never look back hahahahaha
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Dec 7 2016, 07:33 PM)
I want a 490xxx to counter in coming 1080ti laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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lets hope the hype train is real rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Dec 7 2016, 03:11 PM)
That is a good price and good specs. Tempted now. Just that I am not sure if I can get used to TN panel, coming from IPS. Dilemma.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 7 2016, 03:34 PM)
hahahahaha i was also tempted ,im also from IPS to go to TN i also in a dilemma, color reproduction could be an issue . But the price is super cheap for 27"
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just find any TN panel and stare at it for 5 mins.. you will know either you can accept TN or not. In my case, im so used to IPS, it make me wanna puke when i use my office normal TN monitor.. even now im currently using VA 144hz panel, im still kind of missing my old IPS monitor.. i wish i dont sold it haiz.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Dec 7 2016, 11:05 PM)
just find any TN panel and stare at it for 5 mins.. you will know either you can accept TN or not. In my case, im so used to IPS, it make me wanna puke when i use my office normal TN monitor.. even now im currently using VA 144hz panel, im still kind of missing my old IPS monitor.. i wish i dont sold it haiz..  cry.gif
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refresh rate sold you out eh lol mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 8 2016, 01:39 AM)
refresh rate sold you out eh lol  mega_shok.gif
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yeah its true gaming with 144hz is like a whole new level of silky buttery smooth compared to normal 60hz panel.. but somehow i still prefer accurate vibrant colour of IPS rather than fast TN or VA panel.. hmmm maybe xb27ihu is the solution? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Dec 8 2016, 11:02 AM)
yeah its true gaming with 144hz is like a whole new level of silky buttery smooth compared to normal 60hz panel.. but somehow i still prefer accurate vibrant colour of IPS rather than fast TN or VA panel.. hmmm maybe xb27ihu is the solution?  rclxms.gif
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Then get now làh laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Dec 7 2016, 11:05 PM)
just find any TN panel and stare at it for 5 mins.. you will know either you can accept TN or not. In my case, im so used to IPS, it make me wanna puke when i use my office normal TN monitor.. even now im currently using VA 144hz panel, im still kind of missing my old IPS monitor.. i wish i dont sold it haiz..  cry.gif
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few months ago(iinm) i heard the news about samsung releasing their new VA monitor lineup CFG70 series. its 144hz and curved.
im about to buy XG2401 but just like master rav3n82 im afraid i cant coop with TN panel color reproduction.

clicking submit button to fast, forgot to add:
but now its all seems so quiet, no shop bring that samsung monitor here?.

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New driver is alive people. Highly recommended for Polaris GPUs.
You can download it here. 500MB download lel.



The changelog is quite big so i snip some into spoiler.

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Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 16.12.1 Highlights

New Features
Radeon ReLive(1): Capture, stream and share your greatest moments and gaming wins on your computer system with Radeon ReLive. Modify settings quickly, conveniently, and play seamlessly with the easily accessible in-game toolbar. Express yourself in bold new ways with custom scene layouts. Upload your latest highlights and let them be a conversation piece. It's never been easier to build and grow your online community at anytime, anywhere.

Radeon Chill(2): A power-saving feature that dynamically regulates frame rate based on your in-game movements. Radeon Chill can improve power efficiency and can lower temperatures for supported products and games when enabled through Radeon Settings.

Radeon WattMan(3): Added support for AMD Radeon R9 Fury series, R9 390 series, R9 380 series, R9 290 series, R9 285, R9 260 series, R7 360, and R7 260 desktop graphics products

Radeon Software Installer(4): New user interface and intuitive Radeon Software Installer that includes options for express install, custom install and clean uninstall. The new installer will also show options for the latest available driver for your system configuration during the install process.

Display Connectivity(5): New advanced display settings and diagnostics page within Radeon Settings with better detection for HDMI® cable issues and fallback for end users experiencing display issues.

AMD FreeSync™ Technology(6): Now supports Borderless Fullscreen Mode for applications and gaming with AMD FreeSync™ technology displays and supported products. Now supports Gradual Refresh Rate Ramp for mobile configurations with AMD FreeSync™ technology displays and supported products.

Upgrade Advisor(7): Provides a system requirement evaluation for Steam® games in your Radeon Settings library.

HDR Gaming Support(8): Experience the benefits of HDR gaming with Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition. Support for games with HDR 10 or Dolby Vision™ capabilities.

VP9 Decode Acceleration(9): 4K 60Hz GPU-Accelerated Video Streaming enabled on supported Google™ Chrome web browsers.

Skype Performance Enhancements (10): Lower CPU usage during Skype™ calls for select AMD APU Family products.


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How to enable ReLive, courtesy of TPU.
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Review from TechPowerUp.
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_Crimson_ReLive_Drivers/1.html

Radeon ReLive.

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Radeon Chill.

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Normally, you would expect gameplay to consist of a permanent stream of input, which means Chill would never be active. In reality, you can see short pauses where Chill can drop FPS, resulting in significantly reduced power consumption. Subjectively, this is not noticeable during active gameplay; remember, we were playing, not standing around. I'm also happy to report that Chill reacts to keyboard, mouse, and gamepad input, instantly raising the FPS.

If you stand around in a game like World of Warcraft that has animations all over the screen even while you are idle, you can definitely see some stuttering in those movements across your screen. Once you start interacting with the game, the stutters will instantly disappear and you will be back to your maximum framerate. The bonus is that your card is cooler at this point, which means higher clocks can be maintained.


Borderless Freesync.
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AMD ReLive is another surprise. NVIDIA has had a huge headstart in maintaining a feature like this, although AMD's implementation is reasonably functional. We're particularly impressed at just how little performance is affected when you're gaming at a high resolution and with juiced-up details, and while you're recording/streaming at a different resolution (or even the same resolution). With performance costs well under 5% in most cases, AMD has made streaming/recording of gameplay practically free (of overhead). Here, just like with Chill, the feature still seems a little buggy and unpolished UI wise. Several times during our testing, we had to clean the drivers using DDU because the ReLive options would not show up in Radeon Settings, or they would, but recording would not start. DDU helped, AMD clean uninstall did not.

The new drivers don't particularly offer significant performance gains over previous drivers; however, AMD's 4-6 % performance gain claims over the 16.7 drivers its Polaris 10 hardware launched with do appear to hold true. Performance isn't really the focus of this release, and they seem to have fixed a few game-specific bugs, so this isn't a major area of concern for us.


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From GamerNexus.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2710-amd...play-benchmarks




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Anyone tested the new drivers already ? I not interested in ReLive. I just want to know whether "Wattman" has taken over the "Overdrive" for non RX series cards .
To me, Wattman seems more complicated than Overdrive
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I'm interested in Relive , but then again after installing , I don't even see the Tab for ReLive , maybe my old card doesnt support it? 7850 here. Anyone can clarify?

AMD's site said ReLive is supported on GCN supported cards , why don't I see the option in there? Lol.

Edit : It's there already after restarting computer.

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It doesn't seem ReLive is anything to shout about , OBS with the same HEVC is much better because OBS provides a large variety of settings.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 9 2016, 01:36 PM)
Anyone tested the new drivers already ? I not interested in ReLive. I just want to know whether "Wattman" has taken over the "Overdrive" for non RX series cards .
To me, Wattman seems more complicated than Overdrive
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From supported device it is seem older cards will use Wattman as well, it's not that complicated imo. =p Overdrive only touch State 7 voltage when you adjust it.
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Dec 9 2016, 03:13 PM)
It doesn't seem ReLive is anything to shout about , OBS with the same HEVC is much better because OBS provides a large variety of settings.
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Getting a good video quality without sacrificing performance can be daunting with OBS. Often the performance hit is pretty significant.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 9 2016, 03:42 PM)
Getting a good video quality without sacrificing performance can be daunting with OBS. Often the performance hit is pretty significant.
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I've been using OBS with AMD's hardware encoding , the performance hit is much similar to ReLive (720p 60fps) , though I'm using a pretty old GC now (7850) , recording in CSGO seems to be okay , in heavy Graphics game , such as Dying light , the recorded video seems to have freezing issues while in game there weren't any issues. With a much higher end card I'm pretty sure it ain't a problem anymore.

Fun fact , I tried recording with ReLive in Dying Light just now , just when I stepped out of the base , the whole screen literally went Blue , and it restarted my pc , it wasn't a BSOD though.
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Okay now. I just tested AMD Chill feature. It is not working with Dota 2 even when I am just watching those ranked match both in Vulkan and DX11. FPS still hovering around 120+ ~ 160+ fps

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Dec 9 2016, 04:40 PM)
I've been using OBS with AMD's hardware encoding , the performance hit is much similar to ReLive (720p 60fps)  , though I'm using a pretty old GC now (7850) , recording in CSGO seems to be okay , in heavy Graphics game , such as Dying light , the recorded video seems to have freezing issues while in game there weren't any issues.  With a much higher end card I'm pretty sure it ain't a problem anymore.

Fun fact , I tried recording with ReLive in Dying Light just now , just when I stepped out of the base , the whole screen literally went Blue , and it restarted my pc , it wasn't a BSOD though.
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720p60 is easy, i can do that with MSI Afterburner with VCE. 1080p60 is whole different story with my 290x.



QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 9 2016, 07:17 PM)
Okay now. I just tested AMD Chill feature. It is not working with Dota 2 even when I am just watching those ranked match both in Vulkan and DX11. FPS still hovering around 120+ ~ 160+ fps
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What card and what CPU you currently using to get tat FPS?

Btw Dota 2 not in the list.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 9 2016, 07:28 PM)
720p60 is easy, i can do that with MSI Afterburner with VCE. 1080p60 is whole different story with my 290x.
What card and what CPU you currently using to get tat FPS?

Btw Dota 2 not in the list.

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You're right. For Overwatch, Radeon Chill works. It drops the fps to 40 only when I don't move the mouse. Once I move the mouse , fps back to normal .

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 9 2016, 07:31 PM)
I5 4690k 4.5ghz
R9 290 flashed to R9 390 with mem mod. Core 1100 , Mem 1400
Running 1440p .

You're right. For Overwatch, Radeon Chill works. It drops the fps to 40 only when I don't move the mouse. Once I move the mouse , fps back to normal .
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Just curious, what software you used to check the FPS?
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Dec 9 2016, 08:52 PM)
Just curious, what software you used to check the FPS?
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 9 2016, 07:31 PM)
I5 4690k 4.5ghz
R9 290 flashed to R9 390 with mem mod. Core 1100 , Mem 1400
Running 1440p .

You're right. For Overwatch, Radeon Chill works. It drops the fps to 40 only when I don't move the mouse. Once I move the mouse , fps back to normal .
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Damn, the game love strong single core performance i guess. laugh.gif

I noticed it said "Whitelisted game are manually selected", does that mean you can manually add game into the whitelist?
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Dec 9 2016, 08:52 PM)
Just curious, what software you used to check the FPS?
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Dota 2 has an option to see fps
Overwatch also . It shows you your vram usage too and gpu temp
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 9 2016, 10:00 PM)
Damn, the game love strong single core performance i guess. laugh.gif

I noticed it said "Whitelisted game are manually selected", does that mean you can manually add game into the whitelist?
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No need do anything whitelist. In Wattman tab, bottom area. Got 1 option call Global Chil. Just set On. Thts all.

For dota2, if i run with no vsync on for 1080p, all 4 core almost max out. But 1080p fps can spike till >200
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 9 2016, 07:28 PM)
720p60 is easy, i can do that with MSI Afterburner with VCE. 1080p60 is whole different story with my 290x.
Yup , I'm using that setting due to size/quality/ balance , if not I would do 1080p60 instead. Also just for casual recording anyway laugh.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 7 2016, 11:06 AM)
guys viewsonic having promo for freesync monitor

http://www.lazada.com.my/viewsonic/?searchredirect=viewsonic
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What spec to look out for to know that it's a FreeSync monitor? Thanks.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 10 2016, 08:57 PM)
What spec to look out for to know that it's a FreeSync monitor? Thanks.
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This one is very tempting though:

http://www.lazada.com.my/lg-29um57-29-ultr...y-13316934.html
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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 10 2016, 11:52 PM)
U shud try look for lg 29um68, newer model iinm not sure tho.
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Another reasonable priced Ultrawide monitor with Free Sync:


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Another year, another unlockable AMD GPU.
Overclocker enthusiast der8auer just released a couple of BIOSes that MAY unlock your Sapphire RX-460 4GB and Asus RX-460 4GB to a full fledge Polaris 11.

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I guess it's worth to pay extra if it's unlockable. tongue.gif

Sauce: http://overclocking.guide/amd-radeon-rx-46...eam-processors/

QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 11 2016, 07:54 AM)
Another reasonable priced Ultrawide monitor with Free Sync:
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Linus being Linus, reviewed a Freesync monitor with Nvidia card that totally capable of Freesync.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 11 2016, 01:18 PM)
Linus being Linus, reviewed a Freesync monitor with Nvidia card that totally capable of Freesync.
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QUOTE(slowpoker @ Dec 11 2016, 12:10 AM)
U shud try look for lg 29um68, newer model iinm not sure tho.
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Ah ok. Dem if only there's like an LG store over here or something.

QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 11 2016, 07:54 AM)
Another reasonable priced Ultrawide monitor with Free Sync:


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Such a good price, if only it has a 1080 one. Even at that I think my RX480 is gonna sweat a lot.
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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 11 2016, 03:33 PM)
Ah ok. Dem if only there's like an LG store over here or something.
Such a good price, if only it has a 1080 one. Even at that I think my RX480 is gonna sweat a lot.
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LG has a 32 inch Ultrawide at 2560x1080 monitor.

Not sure whether there is free sync or not.
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I found a bug with this new ReLive drivers. During OC, for some weird reason, the memory clock does not go up as it should, it stays at 150Mhz during gaming . I am not the only one having this issue.

Dota 2 at 25~26fps for an R9 290 . WTF !!!


Memory Clock Speed locked at 150Mhz

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Eh guys, so this overlay function in the new driver only works for stream output only, and not on local display? hmm.gif

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Dell got 1 Freesync monitor, DELL SE2717H
RM 899 from Dotatech(lingloong)

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QUOTE(khelben @ Dec 11 2016, 03:33 PM)
Such a good price, if only it has a 1080 one. Even at that I think my RX480 is gonna sweat a lot.
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LG 29UM68? tongue.gif Only 40hz-75hz though so no LFC. Only RM1,165 from GTech(Hikari85), not sure if promo price still on.
https://www.facebook.com/gtech.solutions/ph...?type=3&theater

It's IPS so that's plus but not sure how bad the ghosting is if any.

QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 11 2016, 05:25 PM)
LG has a 32 inch Ultrawide at 2560x1080 monitor.

Not sure whether there is free sync or not.
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From AMD website LG's Freesync monitor only 29" and 34". Not sure if there is a newer model not in the list.

QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 11 2016, 06:01 PM)
I found a bug with this new ReLive drivers. During OC, for some weird reason, the memory clock does not go up as it should, it stays at 150Mhz during gaming . I am not the only one having this issue.

Dota 2 at 25~26fps for an R9 290 . WTF !!!
Memory Clock Speed locked at 150Mhz
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No problem if no overclock? hmm.gif

QUOTE(M1X @ Dec 11 2016, 07:40 PM)
Eh guys, so this overlay function in the new driver only works for stream output only, and not on local display?  hmm.gif
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I think it's only for livestream. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 11 2016, 08:50 PM)
Dell got 1 Freesync monitor, DELL SE2717H
RM 899 from Dotatech(lingloong)

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LG 29UM68? tongue.gif Only 40hz-75hz though so no LFC. Only RM1,165 from GTech(Hikari85), not sure if promo price still on.
https://www.facebook.com/gtech.solutions/ph...?type=3&theater

It's IPS so that's plus but not sure how bad the ghosting is if any.
From AMD website LG's Freesync monitor only 29" and 34". Not sure if there is a newer model not in the list.
No problem if no overclock? hmm.gif
I think it's only for livestream. hmm.gif
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I was referring to this LG 34UM58 which has a resolution of 2560x1080 but unfortunately no Free Sync.

LG 34UM58-P from Lazada
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Mmm the DELL SE2717H is a bit cheaper on Lazada now, plus you can use voucher + Shopback, so.. hmm.

Anyway that unlocked RX460 - it's still no competitor to 1050TI, is it?
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 12 2016, 10:02 AM)
Mmm the DELL SE2717H is a bit cheaper on Lazada now, plus you can use voucher + Shopback, so.. hmm.

Anyway that unlocked RX460 - it's still no competitor to 1050TI, is it?
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But still GTX 1050 still better since it does not require 6 pin adapter compared to RX460.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 12 2016, 10:02 AM)
I was referring to this LG 34UM58 which has a resolution of 2560x1080 but unfortunately no Free Sync.

LG 34UM58-P from Lazada
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Ahh.. the Freesync version is 34UM58A and 34UM57 but both cost over RM3.5K iinm.

QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 12 2016, 10:02 AM)
Anyway that unlocked RX460 - it's still no competitor to 1050TI, is it?
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I read Async-Compute got disabled for 1st Gen GCN, can you guys confirm this?
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 12 2016, 10:19 PM)
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Oh man, i guess it will perform between 1080 and upcoming 1080 Ti?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 12 2016, 11:07 PM)
Oh man, i guess it will perform between 1080 and upcoming 1080 Ti?
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There should be more competition in the GPU market. Intense competition will force the existing players to innovate.

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PCGH tested a PC with allegedly Vega 10 GPU that use 8GB of HBM2 and it is on par with the 1080 in Doom 4K.


Added on few mins later

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Referance-build RX480s are.. pretty cheap, imo with coupons lying around. Would that be a better option instead of partner-tricked RX470 boards? What do you guys think?
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 14 2016, 10:52 AM)
Referance-build RX480s are.. pretty cheap, imo with coupons lying around. Would that be a better option instead of partner-tricked RX470 boards? What do you guys think?
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fireworks voucher already expired lol, at lazada rx480 reference is at 1180 last i saw, if can get discount below 1k its a steal
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 14 2016, 10:52 AM)
Referance-build RX480s are.. pretty cheap, imo with coupons lying around. Would that be a better option instead of partner-tricked RX470 boards? What do you guys think?
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If you can stand the noise and temperature then it's worth it imo. ph34r.gif
You need to enable compatibility option to ensure it won't suck >75w from mainboard PCIE slot though.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 14 2016, 11:18 AM)
If you can stand the noise and temperature then it's worth it imo. ph34r.gif
You need to enable compatibility option to ensure it won't suck >75w from mainboard PCIE slot though.
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my brothers gtx 1050ti sucking 91 watts from pcie sweat.gif. saw the gpu z log when the gpu boost to 1.7ghz it takes 91 watts damn scary
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 14 2016, 11:07 AM)
fireworks voucher already expired lol, at lazada rx480 reference is at 1180 last i saw, if can get discount below 1k its a steal
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Yea, that one, too. Although I'm not saying 'cheaper than RX470', it's just that with a little more I can get the ref RX480 8GB, rather than tricked-out RX470 4GB from other partners. Plus, online vouchers would pop up from time-to-time, like every other sales period. And most of the time I game with a headphone, noise shouldn't be an issue. But the heat, does worry me a bit..
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 14 2016, 11:26 AM)
Yea, that one, too. Although I'm not saying 'cheaper than RX470', it's just that with a little more I can get the ref RX480 8GB, rather than tricked-out RX470 4GB from other partners. Plus, online vouchers would pop up from time-to-time, like every other sales period. And most of the time I game with a headphone, noise shouldn't be an issue. But the heat, does worry me a bit..
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once u bump up the fan speed ur fine
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 14 2016, 11:21 AM)
my brothers gtx 1050ti sucking 91 watts from pcie  sweat.gif. saw the gpu z log when the gpu boost to 1.7ghz it takes 91 watts damn scary
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That's typical for a brief moment. My old 290x can get 290watt when overclock+overvolt and that's not total board power. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 14 2016, 01:41 PM)
That's typical for a brief moment. My old 290x can get 290watt when overclock+overvolt and that's not total board power. laugh.gif
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problem is 1050ti no 6 pin connector sad.gif
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Anyone updated to latest driver ? Any problem ?
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QUOTE(jonnie @ Dec 15 2016, 02:29 PM)
Anyone updated to latest driver ? Any problem ?
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For me the new driver is problematic.
Maybe if you don't OC , its good for you.
Once you OC using Wattman, the memory clock speed revert to a fixed 150Mhz out of the blue and stuck there unless you reinstall the driver again, but it does not solve the issue totally.
I went back to the previous driver.
I'm a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC user
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 15 2016, 05:19 PM)
For me the new driver is problematic.
Maybe if you don't OC , its good for you.
Once you OC using Wattman, the memory clock speed revert to a fixed 150Mhz out of the blue and stuck there unless you reinstall the driver again, but it does not solve the issue totally.
I went back to the previous driver.
I'm a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC user
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i dont oc but i did undervolt + play with the fan and temp.

I guess i will wait some more.

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QUOTE(jonnie @ Dec 15 2016, 02:29 PM)
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 15 2016, 05:19 PM)
For me the new driver is problematic.
Maybe if you don't OC , its good for you.
Once you OC using Wattman, the memory clock speed revert to a fixed 150Mhz out of the blue and stuck there unless you reinstall the driver again, but it does not solve the issue totally.
I went back to the previous driver.
I'm a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC user
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Are you by chance using multi-monitor? I read this problem is related to multi-monitor configuration+overclock.
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nice chill feature supporting 18 games at the moment.

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Any eta on Vega? Fury's seem to be at a really good price point right now and I need something with Freesync @ 1440p/4k with settings at medium.

If it's going to be months before Vega is out (especially in Malaysia tongue.gif) I might as well buy a Fury.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 15 2016, 07:10 PM)
Are you by chance using multi-monitor? I read this problem is related to multi-monitor configuration+overclock.
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I using single monitor also got this problem.
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QUOTE(entity @ Dec 16 2016, 01:14 AM)
Any eta on Vega?  Fury's seem to be at a really good price point right now and I need something with Freesync @ 1440p/4k with settings at medium.

If it's going to be months before Vega is out (especially in Malaysia tongue.gif) I might as well buy a Fury.
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No official ETA, many speculate Q1 2017.

QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 16 2016, 08:36 AM)
I using single monitor also got this problem.
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I see, problem still persist with 16.12.1?

QUOTE(kundek @ Dec 16 2016, 09:05 AM)
hey
i heard amd no more support gcn 1.0 and 1.1 for direct X 12 is it?
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Where did you heard that? laugh.gif

They did disable Async Compute for 1st gen GCN though, but they will enable it back in future drivers.
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QUOTE(entity @ Dec 16 2016, 01:14 AM)
Any eta on Vega?  Fury's seem to be at a really good price point right now and I need something with Freesync @ 1440p/4k with settings at medium.

If it's going to be months before Vega is out (especially in Malaysia tongue.gif) I might as well buy a Fury.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 16 2016, 09:15 AM)
No official ETA, many speculate Q1 2017.
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CES will be in next month and fuiyoh AMD vs NVD neck and neck something we never seen 4 very long time laugh.gif rclxms.gif

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/5...90-ces-2017.htm

so i believe it will be in February after chinese new year laugh.gif rclxms.gif hoping the currency wont down further that time puke.gif puke.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Dec 17 2016, 11:11 AM)
CES will be in next month and fuiyoh AMD vs NVD neck and neck something we never seen 4 very long time laugh.gif rclxms.gif

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/5...90-ces-2017.htm

so i believe it will be in February after chinese new year laugh.gif rclxms.gif hoping the currency wont down further that time puke.gif  puke.gif
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 17 2016, 12:00 PM)
Finally, some competition at the high end market.

Can't have one Company dominating that segment.
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With ryzen coming soon intel also cant dominate anymore hopefully , AMD and Radeon working realy hard to turn around. Intel and Nvidia cant slack anymore
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At that time MYR would probably be 5 vs USD. Oh god..
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 17 2016, 01:07 PM)
With ryzen coming soon intel also cant dominate anymore hopefully , AMD and Radeon working realy hard to turn around. Intel and Nvidia cant slack anymore
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Really hoping for that Ryzen will give them intense competition.

Then we can expect more improvements from all players.
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hi, i wanna ask. i have r9 390. so far so good. i never update the amd driver since i bought the entire new pc together with the gpu. i heard that if i update the driver, it will not perform as good as the old driver for the same game. meaning that if i update the driver, the gpu may not churn out fps as high as previous driver. is it true?
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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 20 2016, 03:18 PM)
hi, i wanna ask. i have r9 390. so far so good. i never update the amd driver since i bought the entire new pc together with the gpu. i heard that if i update the driver, it will not perform as good as the old driver for the same game. meaning that if i update the driver, the gpu may not churn out fps as high as previous driver. is it true?
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Newer drivers ensures better compatibility with newer titles. Hence performance is quite subject to your setup.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 20 2016, 05:35 PM)
Newer drivers ensures better compatibility with newer titles.  Hence performance is quite subject to your setup.
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what about older games which are 2-3 yo, let say dirt 3
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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 20 2016, 05:37 PM)
what about older games which are 2-3 yo, let say dirt 3
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 20 2016, 08:45 PM)
for dirt 3 your current gpu can surely max out all details and still hit the magical 60fps mark  thumbup.gif
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no no, i mean for instance. lets say gta V or other games which is over a year old. then will the previous driver be more compatible since current driver works best for current games only?
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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 20 2016, 03:18 PM)
hi, i wanna ask. i have r9 390. so far so good. i never update the amd driver since i bought the entire new pc together with the gpu. i heard that if i update the driver, it will not perform as good as the old driver for the same game. meaning that if i update the driver, the gpu may not churn out fps as high as previous driver. is it true?
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Depend if they dropped some deprecated optimization for that particular games but that rarely happen imo. Best to update your driver because AMD very slowly improving it's CPU drawcalls efficiency. I think GTA:V will notice minor improvement as well.
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At that time MYR would probably be 5 vs USD. Oh god..
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Purchased a XFX RX470, was mulling if I should just add a bit more to get a ref RX480 or even migrate to the green camp, lol, but nostalgia won me back over, and I plan to save the extra for my nephew's GC, too. Oh well, just hoping I can get it before the holidays next week. Fat chance, but.. welllll.
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 22 2016, 02:31 PM)
Purchased a XFX RX470, was mulling if I should just add a bit more to get a ref RX480 or even migrate to the green camp, lol, but nostalgia won me back over, and I plan to save the extra for my nephew's GC, too. Oh well, just hoping I can get it before the holidays next week. Fat chance, but.. welllll.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 23 2016, 03:42 PM)
should wait for vega  brows.gif
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As much as I would be rooting for Vega, it would totally be out of my range, considering I don't really game that much these days, anyway.
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QUOTE(BlitzAce @ Dec 24 2016, 09:43 AM)
As much as I would be rooting for Vega, it would totally be out of my range, considering I don't really game that much these days, anyway.
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Just gotten myself a AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" FHD 144Hz FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor. Photos attached:

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Ready for Vega.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 25 2016, 09:31 AM)
Just gotten myself a AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" FHD 144Hz FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor. Photos attached:

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Ready for Vega.
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How much damage? How is the ppi?

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How much damage? How is the ppi?
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1080p only.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 25 2016, 09:42 AM)
RM1,800

1080p only.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 25 2016, 09:31 AM)
Just gotten myself a AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" FHD 144Hz FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor. Photos attached:

Ready for Vega.
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Nice, any complain? You have both G-Sync and Freesync monitor right?
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Dec 25 2016, 11:48 AM)
your main rig? gonna change your 1080 so soon?  drool.gif
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Will change that to 4k next year.

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 25 2016, 12:00 PM)
Nice, any complain? You have both G-Sync and Freesync monitor right?
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Only free sync, my other PC is using TV.

Unless there is a 50 inch free sync / g sync monitor, I probably will just get a regular 4k TV next year.

So far, the monitor is pretty good. I am just not used to the curved.

It is VA panel, so the colour isn't the best but it is enough for me.

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hi sifus:
is there any amd card tat has mini version for ssf casing?

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The box of the AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" FHD 144Hz FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor is bloody huge:

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For comparison purpose, the LG monitor is 24inch:

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 26 2016, 08:51 AM)
The box of the AOC AGON AG322FCX 31.5" FHD 144Hz FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor is bloody huge:

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I tried Samsung 27" Curved Freesync before but can't get use to the curvy nature. Does it still feel weird after few days usage for you?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 26 2016, 02:46 PM)
I tried Samsung 27" Curved Freesync before but can't get use to the curvy nature. Does it still feel weird after few days usage for you?
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First day, weird.

Today is the third, quite natural already.

But I think it is oversold.

I won't get a curved TV but curved monitor is good though.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Dec 26 2016, 02:53 PM)
First day, weird.

Today is the third, quite natural already.

But I think it is oversold.

I won't get a curved TV but curved monitor is good though.
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it is full hd or 2k?
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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 27 2016, 12:45 AM)
it is full hd or 2k?
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Full HD, not 1440p.
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hi guys, is the latest amd driver stable? i will update later on
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late 390(290) vs 970 with 2016 games.


QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 27 2016, 12:06 PM)
hi guys, is the latest amd driver stable? i will update later on
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If you overclock you card stay away from 16.12.x since the memory clock bug is still there.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 27 2016, 07:26 PM)
late 390(290) vs 970 with 2016 games.

If you overclock you card stay away from 16.12.x since the memory clock bug is still there.
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ok, then which version is stable in every aspect

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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 27 2016, 07:27 PM)
ok, then which version is stable in every aspect
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From what i've read in couple of forums, 16.11.5 is the last good one.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 27 2016, 08:45 PM)
From what i've read in couple of forums, 16.11.5 is the last good one.
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may i know what driver u use?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 27 2016, 08:45 PM)
From what i've read in couple of forums, 16.11.5 is the last good one.
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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 27 2016, 08:47 PM)
may i know what driver u use?
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Previously use 16.12.1 and 16.12.2. GTA 5 cannot open, always error with Radeon Wattman restore. Clean uninstall also cannot fix it. Now back to 16.11.5 and no error from Whattman. biggrin.gif
Using 290X crossfire.

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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 27 2016, 08:47 PM)
may i know what driver u use?
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I currently use 375.70 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 27 2016, 09:59 PM)
I currently use 375.70  tongue.gif
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meaning nvidia better than amd la? haha
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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 27 2016, 10:00 PM)
meaning nvidia better than amd la? haha
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Not really, if i can buy an R9-Fury for under RM1.5k 6 months ago i probably grab that instead.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 27 2016, 11:00 PM)
Not really, if i can buy an R9-Fury for under RM1.5k 6 months ago i probably grab that instead.
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when i watch videos on youtube using chrome, sometimes i get blue screen. however, i never have blue screen when i play games. i checked using 3rd party software and it says is my amd problem. i reinserted the gc again, and still got blue screen. so, is it my driver problem instead of my card?
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QUOTE(bingding @ Dec 27 2016, 11:03 PM)
when i watch videos on youtube using chrome, sometimes i get blue screen. however, i never have blue screen when i play games. i checked using 3rd party software and it says is my amd problem. i reinserted the gc again, and still got blue screen. so, is it my driver problem instead of my card?
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You can try turn off hardware acceleration on chrome and if you still using Flash you can turn off hardware acceleration there too.
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Right. After a couple of days waiting for my 470 from G5.. they messaged me the XFX 470 is sold out - they're offering a Sapphire Nitro+ 470 instead. I just said yes hmm.gif
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Mmm pretty much the displayed price minus the 12% discount. Around $905. Should be a bit more exp for the Sapphire card, but they let me switch w/out any top-up.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Dec 27 2016, 07:26 PM)
late 390(290) vs 970 with 2016 games.

If you overclock you card stay away from 16.12.x since the memory clock bug is still there.
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wow, all good, but y mine didn't go so well?

r9 390 nitro 8GB
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QUOTE(matni01 @ Dec 28 2016, 03:20 PM)
wow, all good, but y mine didn't go so well?

r9 390 nitro 8GB
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What you mean by didn't go so well? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kundek @ Dec 30 2016, 11:30 AM)
ok i am back to amd side....and will stay here for quite some time liao after getting the gtx 1060..(sold away liao)
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I think u just bought it recently right? Why the change of mind? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kundek @ Dec 30 2016, 11:30 AM)
ok i am back to amd side....and will stay here for quite some time liao after getting the gtx 1060..(sold away liao)
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Wait you sold your newly-bought 1060? And?
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QUOTE(kundek @ Dec 31 2016, 11:12 AM)
and profit 50 linggit from it.
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VEGA's coming! rclxm9.gif

There's a countdown starting for it.
http://ve.ga/

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VEGA's coming!  rclxm9.gif

There's a countdown starting for it.
http://ve.ga/
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^ 0:05, poor Volta? laugh.gif
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Wendell reviewed Microboard M320CLZ, a 32" 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor. Subscribe to his channel at Level1Tech if u like a detailed review unlike most tech youtuber/journalist out there. whistling.gif
From spec this is similar to AOC AGON AG322FCX kianweic just bought.



This is the lower end sibling to the Microboard M340CLZ which Linus reviewed recently with his Freesync capable graphic card. thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(kundek @ Jan 2 2017, 10:28 PM)
btw hd7850 got no free sync  rite?
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More Vega hype.

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Maybe now is the good time to sell my GPU. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 3 2017, 01:41 AM)
Maybe now is the good time to sell my GPU. hmm.gif
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do it before its too late brows.gif
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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Jan 3 2017, 11:16 AM)
do it before its too late  brows.gif
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But i doubt the card will cost below RM2k, if it does it doubt it will be better than 1080 which is the minimum performance range i can consider as upgrade.

>RM2.5k is not the price range i can afford, as price continue to up i think i wont be upgrading to a better card in a very long time... unless someone kind enough to donate me Rm2.6b.
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Better wait first.. Later hype train crash wasted yo whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 2 2017, 10:07 PM)
Wendell reviewed Microboard M320CLZ, a 32" 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor. Subscribe to his channel at Level1Tech if u like a detailed review unlike most tech youtuber/journalist out there.  whistling.gif
From spec this is similar to AOC AGON AG322FCX kianweic just bought.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

This is the lower end sibling to the Microboard M340CLZ which Linus reviewed recently with his Freesync capable graphic card.  thumbsup.gif
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This one seems worth getting.

I am still planning to upgrade my "office" monitor to > 30 inch monitor. I am considering the LG 34UM68 at the moment.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 2 2017, 10:07 PM)
Wendell reviewed Microboard M320CLZ, a 32" 1080p 144hz Freesync monitor. Subscribe to his channel at Level1Tech if u like a detailed review unlike most tech youtuber/journalist out there.  whistling.gif
From spec this is similar to AOC AGON AG322FCX kianweic just bought.



This is the lower end sibling to the Microboard M340CLZ which Linus reviewed recently with his Freesync capable graphic card.  thumbsup.gif
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is there any color banding?

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QUOTE(UJil @ Jan 3 2017, 02:51 PM)
is there any color banding?
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What is color banding?
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What is color banding?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding

TLDR version: Shitty reproduction of color.
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Jan 3 2017, 08:53 PM)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding

TLDR version: Shitty reproduction of color.
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Thanks, that clarifies.

Going to read up on that.
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QUOTE(UJil @ Jan 3 2017, 02:51 PM)
is there any color banding?
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He didn't mention any color banding, either he didn't notice it or it's not there.
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dont forget today 10pm.
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QUOTE(UJil @ Jan 5 2017, 01:23 PM)
dont forget today 10pm.
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Remind me back at 10pm later. tongue.gif

Btw yesterday keynote about 1080 Ti was great, i don't think AMD can top that tonight.










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Added on
I don't think they will show the card tonight though, 100% paper preview.

Videocardz already leak the slides for tonight.
http://videocardz.com/65406/exclusive-amd-vega-presentation

Many claim this will be a new arch, from these leaked slides i think it probably true.
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Many got served expecting a live stream. laugh.gif

AMD Vega GPU Architecture Preview : Redesigned Memory Architecture
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finally Vega us upon us. hypee!
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New article at Anandtech. The AMD Vega GPU Architecture Teaser: Higher IPC, Tiling, & More, Coming in H1’2017

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lmao i was also expecting live streaming on explaning the new vega preview.
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haha
wan to know more detail on it
the card can run 60fps in 4k screen
wan to know what card and the price XD
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QUOTE(silrave @ Jan 8 2017, 06:02 PM)
haha
wan to know more detail on it
the card can run 60fps in 4k screen
wan to know what card and the price XD
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That card they demoed in Doom 4K video is probably AMD answer to GTX 1080 instead of GTX 1080 Ti so expect similar or slightly lower pricing compare to GTX 1080.
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Engineering sample, the card most probably many months away from retail production. cry.gif


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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 9 2017, 12:44 PM)
Aaaa the wait is killing laugh.gif doh.gif
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Vega release date is in H1 2017 not Q1 2017... what took them so long?
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 9 2017, 08:56 PM)
Vega release date is in H1 2017 not Q1 2017... what took them so long?
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HBM2 pricing or/and process maturity maybe? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kundek @ Jan 10 2017, 01:29 PM)
got new update just now
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What version?
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Updated to a new version. not sure if theres any improvement tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kundek @ Jan 10 2017, 04:58 PM)
16.12.2
previuslly i think its similar too 16.12.0 i think
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Oh, i guess this is the WHQL version because 16.12.2 already available late last month.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 10 2017, 07:12 PM)
Oh, i guess this is the WHQL version because 16.12.2 already available late last month.
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wat is the diff btwn whql and non-whql?
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QUOTE(bingding @ Jan 11 2017, 04:13 PM)
wat is the diff btwn whql and non-whql?
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WHQL = the driver is certified by Microsoft. Basically mean nothing much for us gamers.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 8 2017, 10:57 PM)
That card they demoed in Doom 4K video is probably AMD answer to GTX 1080 instead of GTX 1080 Ti so expect similar or slightly lower pricing compare to GTX 1080.
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cause i am using 4k screen
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but i wan to get that gc
incase future i wan gaming on my 4k mon also no issue

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No1 AMD fan is not impressed with Vega performance reveal.

I've expected this too. It's Fury X all over again.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2017, 01:23 PM)
No1 AMD fan is not impressed with Vega performance reveal. 

I've expected this too.  It's Fury X all over again.
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He's not AMD no.1 fanboy so that is expected. Yea the performance is not impressive and according to Raja that is the top Vega though it's still an early test chip with early driver.
What confused me is that Raja told it's the high end Vega chip but early Doom 4K footage show it only have 8GB of VRAM. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 13 2017, 02:08 PM)
He's not AMD no.1 fanboy so that is expected. Yea the performance is not impressive and according to Raja that is the top Vega though it's still an early test chip with early driver.
What confused me is that Raja told it's the high end Vega chip but early Doom 4K footage show it only have 8GB of VRAM.  hmm.gif
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It is high end meaning that, there will be only 1 Vega variance at launch. The so called bigger Vega is probably going to arrive later. Very late.

My expectation on Vega is clear. If they price it right, maybe in between 1070-1080, it put enough pressure for Nvidia to lower their 1080 price, and release the 1080ti to take back the performance crown.

If Vega is up against 1080 in term of pricing, well AMD is not saint as everyone thought.

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2017, 02:13 PM)
It is high end meaning that, there will be only 1 Vega variance at launch.  The so called bigger Vega is probably going to arrive later. Very late.

My expectation on Vega is clear.  If they price it right, maybe in between 1070-1080, it put enough pressure for Nvidia to lower their 1080 price, and release the 1080ti to take back the performance crown.

If Vega is up against 1080 in term of pricing, well AMD is not saint as everyone thought.
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If that is the case and that Vega is faster than 1080, then the price should be at least similar to 1080 not lower imo.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 13 2017, 02:57 PM)
If that is the case and that Vega is faster than 1080, then the price should be at least similar to 1080 not lower imo.
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still engineering sample cant say much hope for the best its a fury x done right
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The way NVIDIA is behaving, AMD can never gain significant footprint until it stops playing the 'price bracket' game NVIDIA has set and price their wares more aggressively. At least 70% less.

Price margins have gone out of control in recent years, no doubt because NVIDIA keeps pushing the prices higher. As the sole competitor in the market, AMD needs to fuck NVIDIA over once in a while and bring them back to humility.

...Looking at the way RX 480 is priced against 1060 though, AMD is still quite arrogant. Or is this 'price bracket' bullshit also played by local retailers while ignoring international prices? Too lazy to research this now though.
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QUOTE(jamilselamat @ Jan 16 2017, 05:18 PM)
The way NVIDIA is behaving, AMD can never gain significant footprint until it stops playing the 'price bracket' game NVIDIA has set and price their wares more aggressively. At least 70% less.

Price margins have gone out of control in recent years, no doubt because NVIDIA keeps pushing the prices higher. As the sole competitor in the market, AMD needs to fuck NVIDIA over once in a while and bring them back to humility.

...Looking at the way RX 480 is priced against 1060 though, AMD is still quite arrogant. Or is this 'price bracket' bullshit also played by local retailers while ignoring international prices? Too lazy to research this now though.
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im sorry, what? Nvidia has always been pricing their flagships at that range, look at legacy products during their release. the reason the prices feel higher has always been due to our recently depreciating currency and inflation.

profit margins for pc hardware are already horrible enough yet you want them to reduce by 70%? seriously? you think those R&D are cheap? doh.gif

AMD recently announced that top of the line cards are not their main focus already, theyre now focusing on capturing the low-mid end range which is significantly bigger than the niche high end market.

i myself, am not happy they way the hardware are priced atm, but these arent necessities, i couldnt careless if i cant catch up to the every latest best tech released. get one of the best you can at that current tech, and enjoy your time with it until its time for the next upgrade.
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Well.. seeing that how a 1060 and the 480 is somewhat priced pretty similar here, does quash the 'price advantage' AMD used to have, no?

Heck, I've seen cheaper 1060 around, even.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 16 2017, 07:00 PM)
im sorry, what? Nvidia has always been pricing their flagships at that range, look at legacy products during their release. the reason the prices feel higher has always been due to our recently depreciating currency and inflation.

profit margins for pc hardware are already horrible enough yet you want them to reduce by 70%? seriously? you think those R&D are cheap? doh.gif

AMD recently announced that top of the line cards are not their main focus already, theyre now focusing on capturing the low-mid end range which is significantly bigger than the niche high end market.

i myself, am not happy they way the hardware are priced atm, but these arent necessities, i couldnt careless if i cant catch up to the every latest best tech released. get one of the best you can at that current tech, and enjoy your time with it until its time for the next upgrade.
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The problem is, 1080 is not even a flagship. It is a flagship in price, but it is like 3 to 4 skus below the 'Flagship'. Last 3-4 yrs back, nvidia has always releasing the full fat chip as the highest end gpu. But now, since it is lack of competition from AMD, they can release their 3rd or 4th best as the 'flagship'.

As for targeting the mainstream, AMD is not even dominated. They are not focusing the high end, because they don't have the high end chip ready on time. That was just an excuse to me for saying we are focusing on the volume market. Nvidia has equally the same share on that segment as well. And they have all segment covered. RX480 is not that cheaper compare to the equivalent 1060. They are not pricing their mainstream card aggressively. It just another option to consider if you don't like nvidia.
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why only china get the goodies rx 460 with unlocked shaders could give some fight with the 1050ti maybe?

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 18 2017, 04:24 PM)
why only china get the goodies rx 460 with unlocked shaders could give some fight with the 1050ti maybe?

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/radeon-rx...rs-spotted.html
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is Gigabyte R9 290 Windforce 4GB is a good buy ? i got it at around RM480 (160sgd).

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jan 30 2017, 11:50 PM)
is Gigabyte R9 290 Windforce 4GB is a good buy ? i got it at around RM480 (160sgd).

and is 550w true power enough to power it up?
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good buy for sure! good quality 550w psu should be enough to power it.
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QUOTE(kundek @ Jan 19 2017, 07:10 AM)
i cant update to 17.1.1 on my 7850..is it not compatable?
i click update after that restart pc then its still 16.x.x...any 1 have same issue?
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Chnage card la
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jan 30 2017, 11:50 PM)
is Gigabyte R9 290 Windforce 4GB is a good buy ? i got it at around RM480 (160sgd).

and is 550w true power enough to power it up?
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for rm500? not bad. R9 290 same level with RX470 I think. which price at rm800-900ish new.
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Feb 1 2017, 11:04 AM)
for rm500? not bad. R9 290 same level with RX470 I think. which price at rm800-900ish new.
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Yes.
R9 280 going at 135sgd, r9 290 at 160sgd.

Is the difference huge? I contemplating whether want to get cheaper card, but the pricing gap is very minimal, i will be gaming at 1920 la.

Rx470 going 900++ if not wrong.


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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 1 2017, 07:54 PM)
Yes.
R9 280 going at 135sgd, r9 290 at 160sgd.

Is the difference huge? I contemplating whether want to get cheaper card, but the pricing  gap is very minimal, i will be gaming at 1920 la.

Rx470 going 900++ if not wrong.
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best to go with rx470 better TDP.
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Feb 1 2017, 11:04 AM)
for rm500? not bad. R9 290 same level with RX470 I think. which price at rm800-900ish new.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 4 2017, 09:31 AM)
best to go with rx470 better TDP.
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decided to get the R9 290 + superflower 650w laugh.gif



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Between Sapphire rx480 nitro & XFX rx480 GTR which one is a better buy?
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 5 2017, 01:44 PM)
Between Sapphire rx480 nitro & XFX rx480 GTR which one is a better buy?
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jayz 2 cents got a video that the GTR oc's better than any rx 480.
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 5 2017, 01:44 PM)
Between Sapphire rx480 nitro & XFX rx480 GTR which one is a better buy?
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XFX slightly better but the power issue still exist but seriously not a big deal.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 6 2017, 02:48 PM)
jayz 2 cents got a video that the GTR oc's better than any rx 480.
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QUOTE(g104 @ Feb 6 2017, 03:09 PM)
XFX slightly better but the power issue still exist but seriously not a big deal.
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Thanks for the replies. Actually If I buy either one of those cards I just want to run stock.

Some people say when they watched jayz video they said he got very lucky he got the better variations of the card.

I decide on a RX480 since many say that the card will last longer in terms of support (updates etc) and after a bit of reading the latest updates made the card now perform much better.
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 6 2017, 06:15 PM)
Thanks for the replies. Actually If I buy either one of those cards I just want to run stock.

Some people say when they watched jayz video they said he got very lucky he got the better variations of the card.

I decide on a RX480 since many say that the card will last longer in terms of support (updates etc) and after a bit of reading the latest updates made the card now perform much better.
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 6 2017, 06:15 PM)
Thanks for the replies. Actually If I buy either one of those cards I just want to run stock.

Some people say when they watched jayz video they said he got very lucky he got the better variations of the card.

I decide on a RX480 since many say that the card will last longer in terms of support (updates etc) and after a bit of reading the latest updates made the card now perform much better.
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Jayz 480 GTR is definitely silicon lottery, i've seen 480 GTR barely overclock to 1400mhz and some get to 75c-80c at stock.
But it is one of the best build RX-480 alongside 480 Strix and maybe Nitro.

MSI Gaming is no slouch either, so try to pick the cheapest between all these 4 cards.

QUOTE(g104 @ Feb 6 2017, 08:33 PM)
for AMD users, i highly recommended match with higher end processor

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From Haswell Core-i3 is good enough for Polaris imo, for older gen you need i5 at least from my experience.

QUOTE(kundek @ Feb 7 2017, 09:10 AM)
y my crimson relive got no record funtion..on 17. something
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Did you try reinstall the driver? Or use DDU.
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QUOTE(g104 @ Feb 6 2017, 08:33 PM)
for AMD users, i highly recommended match with higher end processor


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I think my i7 3770 is still capable.

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 7 2017, 11:21 AM)
Jayz 480 GTR is definitely silicon lottery, i've seen 480 GTR barely overclock to 1400mhz and some get to 75c-80c at stock.
But it is one of the best build RX-480 alongside 480 Strix and maybe Nitro.

MSI Gaming is no slouch either, so try to pick the cheapest between all these 4 cards.
From Haswell Core-i3 is good enough for Polaris imo, for older gen you need i5 at least from my experience.
Did you try reinstall the driver? Or use DDU.
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If we refer to the current pricing, well the Sapphire Nitro is the cheapest.
I saw RX 470 in 8 gb. Is it better to buy that or stick with the original plan by getting the rx480?
I mostly play in 1080p.
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Oyaji i7/xeon consider high end so match with AMD is the best unlike i3/i5.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 7 2017, 11:21 AM)
Jayz 480 GTR is definitely silicon lottery, i've seen 480 GTR barely overclock to 1400mhz and some get to 75c-80c at stock.
But it is one of the best build RX-480 alongside 480 Strix and maybe Nitro.

MSI Gaming is no slouch either, so try to pick the cheapest between all these 4 cards.
From Haswell Core-i3 is good enough for Polaris imo, for older gen you need i5 at least from my experience.
Did you try reinstall the driver? Or use DDU.
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ooh i jayz rx480 silicone lottery hahahaha damn power that gpu, btw i just bought a rx470 8gb from bro najmods, sold my 980ti as i got a good resale price hehehehehe.
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 7 2017, 06:02 PM)
I think my i7 3770 is still capable.
If we refer to the current pricing, well the Sapphire Nitro is the cheapest.
I saw RX 470 in 8 gb. Is it better to buy that or stick with the original plan by getting the rx480?
I mostly play in 1080p.
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I don't know how to answer this, 8GB is probably the better choice in the long run but when? I know the new RE is very heavy on texture but the impact is much smaller when you turn off shadow caching iirc.

If you want a tier higher overall performance the 4GB 480 is the better choice than 8GB 470 imo.

QUOTE(kundek @ Feb 7 2017, 06:34 PM)
ok DDU solve my problem aready..ty
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Good to know..

QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 7 2017, 07:32 PM)
ooh i jayz rx480 silicone lottery hahahaha damn power that gpu, btw i just bought a rx470 8gb from bro najmods, sold my 980ti as i got a good resale price hehehehehe.
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najmod quit pc mastah race? ph34r.gif

How much you sell the card for? Don't feel like selling mine now.. waiting for real gimping driver then baru can sell. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 7 2017, 09:34 PM)
I don't know how to answer this, 8GB is probably the better choice in the long run but when? I know the new RE is very heavy on texture but the impact is much smaller when you turn off shadow caching iirc.

If you want a tier higher overall performance the 4GB 480 is the better choice than 8GB 470 imo.
Good to know..
najmod quit pc mastah race?  ph34r.gif

How much you sell the card for? Don't feel like selling mine now.. waiting for real gimping driver then baru can sell. tongue.gif
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not to sure najmod quit or not, sold my 980ti as im planning for a ps4 pro, i had a r9 380 as backup but gpu dieded all of a sudden and sent for rma, no gpu. price he sold to me is reasonable gpu very new actually. Not too bad la this rx470 can play rise of tomb raider at very high settings dx12 @ 1080p very well.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 7 2017, 10:55 PM)
not to sure najmod quit or not, sold my 980ti as im planning for a ps4 pro, i had a r9 380 as backup but gpu dieded all of a sudden and sent for rma, no gpu. price he sold to me is reasonable gpu very new actually. Not too bad la this rx470 can play rise of tomb raider at very high settings dx12 @ 1080p very well.
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Ahh.. i was thinking about getting one as well but now thinking about borrowing from a friend instead because i only want to play 2-3 games. laugh.gif

Rx-470 is as powerful as your old R9-290 but perform much faster in Gameworks/CPU intensive games.. try drive in pCars to see the difference if you still play that game. tongue.gif
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I don't know how to answer this, 8GB is probably the better choice in the long run but when? I know the new RE is very heavy on texture but the impact is much smaller when you turn off shadow caching iirc.

If you want a tier higher overall performance the 4GB 480 is the better choice than 8GB 470 imo.
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Guess I'll stick with the original plan on getting an RX480 8GB. Either Sapphire nitro or XFX GTR whichever ones have the best offer.
I will just run it stock but will need to learn how to adjust the fan curve as I read many of these cards runs hot.

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I'm using 1050 Ti but if AMD could come out with a better GPU and using just 125W or below, I'll swap back again.
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 8 2017, 08:49 AM)
I'm using 1050 Ti but if AMD could come out with a better GPU and using just 125W or below, I'll swap back again.
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If you downvolt RX-470 it will happily use under 125w.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 8 2017, 12:53 AM)
Ahh.. i was thinking about getting one as well but now thinking about borrowing from a friend instead because i only want to play 2-3 games.  laugh.gif

Rx-470 is as powerful as your old R9-290 but perform much faster in Gameworks/CPU intensive games.. try drive in pCars to see the difference if you still play that game. tongue.gif
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Serious pcars better performance? Will try it
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 8 2017, 11:31 AM)
Serious pcars better performance?  Will try it
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I think so. tongue.gif Not as much as equivalent Nvidia card though.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 8 2017, 09:27 AM)
If you downvolt RX-470 it will happily use under 125w. 

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I did a quick look between xfx rx480 GTR and Sapphire rx 480 nitro.
the XFX one has core clock of 1338 Mhz while Sapphire 1342 Mhz.
Lets say if I purchase the Sapphire and underclock it to the same core clock as the XFX one will I be able to achieve the same cooling performance?
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 8 2017, 05:18 PM)
I did a quick look between xfx rx480 GTR and Sapphire rx 480 nitro.
the XFX one has core clock of 1338 Mhz while Sapphire 1342 Mhz.
Lets say if I purchase the Sapphire and underclock it to the same core clock as the XFX one will I be able to achieve the same cooling performance?
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4mhz downclock will not make any difference. you should try to maintain the 1342mhz and down volt instead to acceptable voltage for 1342mhz.
ensuring a positive air flow in your case is a much better way.
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 8 2017, 12:07 PM)
Yeah, wait for another better version than RX 470 for now.
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When the card is out you probably will still say "I'm currently using <insert next gen xx50 card>, i hope AMD have better GPU and using just 125W or below, I'll swap back again".
It's a never ending cycle. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Oyaji @ Feb 8 2017, 05:18 PM)
I did a quick look between xfx rx480 GTR and Sapphire rx 480 nitro.
the XFX one has core clock of 1338 Mhz while Sapphire 1342 Mhz.
Lets say if I purchase the Sapphire and underclock it to the same core clock as the XFX one will I be able to achieve the same cooling performance?
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Like Sai86 mentioned, undervolting is better way to reduce your temp
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 8 2017, 09:40 PM)
When the card is out you probably will still say "I'm currently using <insert next gen xx50 card>, i hope AMD have better GPU and using just 125W or below, I'll swap back again".
It's a never ending cycle. tongue.gif
Like Sai86 mentioned, undervolting is better way to reduce your temp
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I rant a lot last time in my old blog so I updated specially to keep track what I have and what you gamers have as well... Guess, we are on a long way to a better GPU anyhow. But Geforce hands-down my choice more than Radeon (unless they provide competitive price and speed)...


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As former user of R7 260x, it lasted me from 2014 to 2016 end but with sluggish performance as it goes and never can reach High settings... Hope Vega GPU can amaze me this year!
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 8 2017, 10:41 PM)
As former user of R7 260x, it lasted me from 2014 to 2016 end but with sluggish performance as it goes and never can reach High settings... Hope Vega GPU can amaze me this year!
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Can't expect much from relatively low end/entry level card from 2013 imo.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 9 2017, 04:17 PM)
Can't expect much from relatively low end/entry level card from 2013 imo.
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Exactly. So, I'm looking to see how good Vega GPU is this coming March.
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 9 2017, 04:34 PM)
Exactly. So, I'm looking to see how good Vega GPU is this coming March.
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But you just upgraded to 1050 Ti. sweat.gif

Vega in March? I thought thats for Ryzen.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 9 2017, 05:13 PM)
But you just upgraded to 1050 Ti.  sweat.gif 

Vega in March? I thought thats for Ryzen.
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Maybe both are released, let's just see.
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 9 2017, 05:25 PM)
Maybe both are released, let's just see.
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Ryzen is March. Vega they target around Q2-Q3 2017.
Earliest is June
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 9 2017, 05:25 PM)
Maybe both are released, let's just see.
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i see you are eager to get Vega thumbup.gif
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Will u guys swap gtx970 from r9 290?


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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 10 2017, 10:06 AM)
i see you are eager to get Vega  thumbup.gif
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Provided that it is really better than my 1050 Ti or RX 470 series.

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Still no confirmed release date for RX 490/490X?
My PowerColor DEVIL R9 390X is getting worse everyday, more artifacts is displaying while playing games & it only has 13 months of warranty left sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 12:13 PM)
Still no confirmed release date for RX 490/490X?
My PowerColor DEVIL R9 390X is getting worse everyday, more artifacts is displaying while playing games & it only has 13 months of warranty left sweat.gif
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next time don't get powercolor. grab XFX or sapphire!
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QUOTE(g104 @ Feb 11 2017, 01:20 PM)
next time don't get powercolor. grab XFX or sapphire!
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ASUS version also much better.
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:08 PM)
Will u guys swap gtx970 from r9 290?
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Depend on what games you'll be playing mostly and if the cooling performance is better.

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 12:13 PM)
Still no confirmed release date for RX 490/490X?
My PowerColor DEVIL R9 390X is getting worse everyday, more artifacts is displaying while playing games & it only has 13 months of warranty left sweat.gif
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What artifacts? laugh.gif

QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 11 2017, 01:43 PM)
ASUS version also much better.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 11 2017, 01:58 PM)
What artifacts?  laugh.gif
Small boxes appearing here & there while playing several games & some games even crashes back to desktop
The card is factory overclocked to 1150MHz
Downclocked the card to 1100MHz then everything is smooth again

The water pump on the GPU also sometimes doesn't run when the PC hasn't been turned on for several days, had to knock softly on the back of the GPU then only the pump will work

Want to wait until RX 490 is released because if I RMA now, afraid they will only replace it with RX 480 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 11 2017, 01:43 PM)
ASUS version also much better.
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i don't know y they said ASUS thermal paste was not good & maybe is for polaris but i think pascal also..
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QUOTE(sniperz @ Feb 11 2017, 11:06 AM)
Provided that it is really better than my 1050 Ti or RX 470 series.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 03:13 PM)
Small boxes appearing here & there while playing several games & some games even crashes back to desktop
The card is factory overclocked to 1150MHz
Downclocked the card to 1100MHz then everything is smooth again

The water pump on the GPU also sometimes doesn't run when the PC hasn't been turned on for several days, had to knock softly on the back of the GPU then only the pump will work

Want to wait until RX 490 is released because if I RMA now, afraid they will only replace it with RX 480 sweat.gif
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Hahahaha u smart bugger, good for you if they replace with Vega
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 03:13 PM)
Small boxes appearing here & there while playing several games & some games even crashes back to desktop
The card is factory overclocked to 1150MHz
Downclocked the card to 1100MHz then everything is smooth again

The water pump on the GPU also sometimes doesn't run when the PC hasn't been turned on for several days, had to knock softly on the back of the GPU then only the pump will work

Want to wait until RX 490 is released because if I RMA now, afraid they will only replace it with RX 480 sweat.gif
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Did you try to add more voltage on the core?

What if they still replace you with 480 even after 490 already available? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 11 2017, 01:58 PM)
Depend on what games you'll be playing mostly and if the cooling performance is better.
What artifacts?  laugh.gif
Only applicable to Polaris, previous gen Asus graphic for AMD cards is pretty shitty especially on higher end model.
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Mine is r9 290 windforce. Let see if I able to swap for the palit gtx970.

Want to cut down electric bill.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 11 2017, 06:41 PM)
Hahahaha u smart bugger, good for you if they replace with Vega
Here's hoping sweat.gif
QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 11 2017, 07:02 PM)
Did you try to add more voltage on the core?
I'm not an overclocker
Well.... not anymore, so won't be doing that tongue.gif
QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 11 2017, 07:02 PM)
What if they still replace you with 480 even after 490 already available?  laugh.gif
I'll F them up until they give me what I want
I paid pretty penny for this GPU, it's more expensive than most R9 390X because of it's built-in AIO liquid cooling vmad.gif
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Feb 11 2017, 08:32 PM)
Mine is r9 290 windforce. Let see if I able to swap for the palit gtx970.

Want to cut down electric bill.
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Reference Palit? If it's the Jetstream, go for it. If the lower end or reference i think your Windforce perform better.

lol, what is your average game time per week or month? I went from 180w-200w 290x to 250w-280w 980 Ti and i didn't notice any significant changes in electric bills

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 09:55 PM)
I'm not an overclocker
Well.... not anymore, so won't be doing that tongue.gif
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Only change the voltage so technically it's not overclocking. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 11 2017, 10:11 PM)
Reference Palit? If it's the Jetstream, go for it. If the lower end or reference i think your Windforce perform better.

lol, what is your average game time per week or month? I went from 180w-200w 290x to 250w-280w 980 Ti and i didn't notice any significant changes in electric bills
Only change the voltage so technically it's not overclocking.  tongue.gif
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The Jetstream.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 03:13 PM)
Small boxes appearing here & there while playing several games & some games even crashes back to desktop
The card is factory overclocked to 1150MHz
Downclocked the card to 1100MHz then everything is smooth again

The water pump on the GPU also sometimes doesn't run when the PC hasn't been turned on for several days, had to knock softly on the back of the GPU then only the pump will work

Want to wait until RX 490 is released because if I RMA now, afraid they will only replace it with RX 480 sweat.gif
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awww ohmy.gif

QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 11 2017, 09:55 PM)
Here's hoping sweat.gif
I'm not an overclocker
Well.... not anymore, so won't be doing that tongue.gif
I'll F them up until they give me what I want
I paid pretty penny for this GPU, it's more expensive than most R9 390X because of it's built-in AIO liquid cooling vmad.gif
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haha dang you are really in bad shape then rclxub.gif
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Around RM1060 for Nitro RX480 if anyone's interested.

Not sure bout the tax.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/sapphire-nitro...oc-11260-20-20g
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Hi, been using laptop for awhile now since my main rig is not with me.

Planning to do an upgrade for my 7970. Want to ask if downclocking is still an issue with AMD Crimson drivers.

For example, during mid gaming the clock will switch to 3D clocks to 2D clocks for no reason ( Temperature is not an issue here ) causing a short stutter during the clock switch.

Or when in loading screen the clock will become 2D, and 3D back when the game loaded , there is a small delay to get the FPS back to normal after the game loaded.

Worse case is sometimes my card will become "confused" and never return to its 3D clocks or never kick in the first place.

Need to use clockblocker to deal with this =(

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resident evil 7 all maxed out takes up 7.7gb of vram and thats crazy
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QUOTE(khelben @ Feb 12 2017, 07:06 PM)
Around RM1060 for Nitro RX480 if anyone's interested.

Not sure bout the tax.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/sapphire-nitro...oc-11260-20-20g
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Damn great price there. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(king99 @ Feb 13 2017, 09:01 AM)
Hi, been using laptop for awhile now since my main rig is not with me.

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I've never experience this particular problem before with my 290x, at least not persistently.
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Any comment about latest Crimson guys? Apparently Async-Compute support is back for GCN 1.0.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 13 2017, 10:47 AM)
resident evil 7 all maxed out takes up 7.7gb of vram and thats crazy
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anyone having RX480 Crossfire in their setup?

I'm able to get 2 MSI rx480 4gb at rm1900 (around 950 each).. was thinking whether anyone here has that setup ?

I had 2 Fury CF before.. sold it off after getting a gaming laptop, now thinking to build back my gaming rig..

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QUOTE(edthrax @ Feb 17 2017, 02:48 PM)
anyone having RX480 Crossfire in their setup?

I'm able to get 2 MSI rx480 4gb at rm1900 (around 950 each).. was thinking whether anyone here has that setup ?

I had 2 Fury CF before.. sold it off after getting a gaming laptop, now thinking to build back my gaming rig..
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IMO at that price 1070 is more reasonable choice unless the game you'll be playing have great CFX scaling and don't gulp >4GB VRAM.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 17 2017, 05:27 PM)
IMO at that price 1070 is more reasonable choice unless the game you'll be playing have great CFX scaling and don't gulp >4GB VRAM.
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damn re7 gulps too much a gtx 1070 is a much better choice
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 17 2017, 08:31 PM)
damn re7 gulps too much a gtx 1070 is a much better choice
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apparently AMD driver is so good, nobody complaining in this thread.

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1. both drunk
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they probably kill each other over anything.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 20 2017, 04:04 PM)
apparently AMD driver is so good, nobody complaining in this thread.
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they probably kill each other over anything.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 20 2017, 04:04 PM)
apparently AMD driver is so good, nobody complaining in this thread.
1. both drunk
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they probably kill each other over anything.
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QUOTE(g104 @ Feb 20 2017, 04:06 PM)
NVIDIA fanboy jailed for 9.5 years & he's enjoying 9.5 TFlops.
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how is the new drivers any good ?
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The hype for Vega is in May 2017, confirmed!
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Feb 22 2017, 04:48 PM)
how is the new drivers any good ?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 22 2017, 10:47 PM)
You didn't try it?
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watched live stream for 2 hour, only few techno introduced, only 1 news about vega released..

Vega is RX VEGA XDDDDDDDD

hope the price range as rx fury? it will be fun if slap 1080, however 1080ti a beast...
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Similar like last year, Nvidia dropped the bomb earlier, but will it destroy AMD's upcoming offering again? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 1 2017, 07:20 PM)
Similar like last year, Nvidia dropped the bomb earlier, but will it destroy AMD's upcoming offering again?  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 1 2017, 07:20 PM)
Similar like last year, Nvidia dropped the bomb earlier, but will it destroy AMD's upcoming offering again?  icon_idea.gif
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and it destroyed its bro Titan again. cross finger that Vega = Ryzen in terms of performance surprise biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Mar 1 2017, 10:51 PM)
and it destroyed its bro Titan again. cross finger that Vega = Ryzen in terms of performance surprise  biggrin.gif
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I don't think so... AMD bet most of its $$$ on CPU side not GPU. Raja should review more... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 1 2017, 07:20 PM)
Similar like last year, Nvidia dropped the bomb earlier, but will it destroy AMD's upcoming offering again?  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Mar 1 2017, 10:51 PM)
and it destroyed its bro Titan again. cross finger that Vega = Ryzen in terms of performance surprise  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Mar 2 2017, 07:30 PM)
I don't think so... AMD bet most of its $$$ on CPU side not GPU. Raja should review more...  hmm.gif
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here comes the rebranding season again bangwall.gif ranting.gif mad.gif vmad.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-rx-50...e-rebrands.html
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Mar 2 2017, 08:44 PM)
here comes the rebranding season again bangwall.gif  ranting.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-rx-50...e-rebrands.html
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Ok, lets face it!!! The only GPU product which uses newer tech is VEGA, The rest will be rebrand from old tech. AMD has not enough budget to expand GPU research.. Nor can hire some legendary hardware architect expert like Jim Keller to aid its newer GPU tech development. Its all about the GCN tech. shakehead.gif

Nvidia cut price becoz it felt the heat from VEGA... but I could be wrong about this. tongue.gif

Who knows VEGA might be a surprise for Nvidia. Its still too early to tell.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Mar 2 2017, 08:44 PM)
here comes the rebranding season again bangwall.gif  ranting.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-rx-50...e-rebrands.html
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its the same and will be the same biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Mar 2 2017, 10:31 PM)
its the same and will be the same  biggrin.gif
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Rebranding is a necessary step to Fine Wine. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 4 2017, 12:13 PM)
Rebranding is a necessary step to Fine Wine.  tongue.gif

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i changed from R9 290 to 7970ghz. Do i need to do a clean driver install?
Don't have to. You're just going from R9 290 to R9 280X. smile.gif

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read some news say vega card release soon
not sure true or not
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They probably tuning in the spec for Vega card, later people will say the card is for workstation not gaming.
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QUOTE(kundek @ Mar 22 2017, 08:47 AM)
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i am just glad that there is still update for my  5 years old gpu.....
they haven forget about HD 7*** series card
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QUOTE(kundek @ Mar 22 2017, 12:28 PM)
i am just glad that there is still update for my  5 years old gpu.....
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QUOTE(Ureshige @ Mar 18 2017, 01:59 AM)
Nice laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(torino @ Apr 5 2017, 10:11 AM)
FYI

Etech PC currently making clearance sale for Gigabyte R9 380 OC 2GB @RM499... Grab em quick while stock last.... drool.gif

Link here: R9 380 Clearance Sale
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so R9 380 is same level with 1050Ti?
damn bought a used Rx460 4GB for RM500. this offer is really tempting if it trade blows with 1050Ti laugh.gif
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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Apr 6 2017, 09:12 AM)
so R9 380 is same level with 1050Ti?
damn bought a used Rx460 4GB for RM500. this offer is really tempting if it trade blows with 1050Ti  laugh.gif
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yeah... r9 380 is on the same level with 1050ti... both are quite competitive in benchmarking and gaming...
some reviews said 380 is better but some prefer 1050ti for some reasons...

But for me, with this price point I can never regret buying this, even its quite some time... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(torino @ Apr 5 2017, 10:11 AM)
FYI

Etech PC currently making clearance sale for Gigabyte R9 380 OC 2GB @RM499... Grab em quick while stock last.... drool.gif

Link here: R9 380 Clearance Sale
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Tempting, but the 2GB kinda a little inadequate for today's gaming standard? At least 4GB+ is the norm lately?
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QUOTE(MRaef @ Apr 6 2017, 10:23 AM)
Tempting, but the 2GB kinda a little inadequate for today's gaming standard? At least 4GB+ is the norm lately?
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if you're going to play at 1080p it won't be a prob much i guess... if you check some reviews online, there's online a few fps difference at certain games when comparing to 4gb version..

only some games utilise more than 2gb of vram iinm.. it's all depend on your usage tho.. my usage is limited to fps, soccer, csgo, rocket league, far cry only.. so it will serves me well enough... smile.gif
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QUOTE(MRaef @ Apr 6 2017, 10:23 AM)
Tempting, but the 2GB kinda a little inadequate for today's gaming standard? At least 4GB+ is the norm lately?
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QUOTE(torino @ Apr 6 2017, 01:38 PM)
if you're going to play at 1080p it won't be a prob much i guess... if you check some reviews online, there's online a few fps difference at certain games when comparing to 4gb version..

only some games utilise more than 2gb of vram iinm.. it's all depend on your usage tho.. my usage is limited to fps, soccer, csgo, rocket league, far cry only.. so it will serves me well enough... smile.gif
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haha i using 8GB and that not enough 4 me laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(torino @ Apr 5 2017, 10:11 AM)
FYI

Etech PC currently making clearance sale for Gigabyte R9 380 OC 2GB @RM499... Grab em quick while stock last.... drool.gif

Link here: R9 380 Clearance Sale
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haha i am use on 4k screen
not sure it serve me how
can i buy and use wait till vega out then sell it out XD
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Just get my ryzen and the rest part... still doubt on gc... wait for vega?@@
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 8 2017, 08:14 AM)
Just get my ryzen and the rest part... still doubt on gc... wait for vega?@@
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 8 2017, 08:14 AM)
Just get my ryzen and the rest part... still doubt on gc... wait for vega?@@
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QUOTE(matt_rix @ Apr 8 2017, 12:38 PM)
Vega is just around the corner
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All parts gathered, left only GC @@ Hand itchy to test out ryzen... Using lappy currently T_T

QUOTE(skylinelover @ Apr 8 2017, 08:30 PM)
Is it 1700x? laugh.gif brows.gif
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1700 @@ got it from garage sales seller who price at 1399 =w= (thanks to buyer of ffk)
no point for get 1700x and above for better XFR if OC

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 9 2017, 04:27 AM)
1700 @@  got it from garage sales seller who price at 1399 =w= (thanks to buyer of ffk)
no point for get 1700x and above for better XFR if OC
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Hmmm, AMD Vega boasts significant performance increase

http://wccftech.com/vega-teaser-slides-leak-nda/
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That's a bold claim. Will it live up to the hype?

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 10 2017, 01:09 AM)
Hmmm, AMD Vega boasts significant performance increase

http://wccftech.com/vega-teaser-slides-leak-nda/
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That's a bold claim. Will it live up to the hype?
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 10 2017, 01:09 AM)
Hmmm, AMD Vega boasts significant performance increase

http://wccftech.com/vega-teaser-slides-leak-nda/
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That's a bold claim. Will it live up to the hype?
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HBM2 should better than gdd5x
But double performance of gti.... erm, maybe a bit too fishy XD
this post just a click bait?XD
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Guys, I just recently purchase LG 29UM67-P. This is Ultrawide monitor with resolution 2560 x 1080 .

Planning to upgrade my current GC.. Which one the best value Rx 470 or R9 380 ?
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QUOTE(MRaef @ Apr 6 2017, 10:23 AM)
Tempting, but the 2GB kinda a little inadequate for today's gaming standard? At least 4GB+ is the norm lately?
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Depends on games though. Like Total War Warhammer, if you're using ultra texture, is uses more than 2GB RAM for 1920 x 1020 so 2GB GPU not enough.
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 9 2017, 04:27 AM)
1700 @@  got it from garage sales seller who price at 1399 =w= (thanks to buyer of ffk)
no point for get 1700x and above for better XFR if OC
Excellent choice. Among the 3 models (I have all 3 in the lab) the 1700 is my favorite.

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QUOTE(cipan2001 @ Apr 10 2017, 05:19 PM)
Guys, I just recently purchase LG 29UM67-P. This is Ultrawide monitor with resolution 2560 x 1080 .

Planning to upgrade my current GC.. Which one the best value Rx 470 or R9 380 ?
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For that res 470 is minimum imo.
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QUOTE(cipan2001 @ Apr 10 2017, 05:19 PM)
Guys, I just recently purchase LG 29UM67-P. This is Ultrawide monitor with resolution 2560 x 1080 .

Planning to upgrade my current GC.. Which one the best value Rx 470 or R9 380 ?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 11 2017, 11:05 AM)
For that res 470 is minimum imo.
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Ya.. But then might as well wait rx570 which gonna be released soon.
Eventhough it is a rebrand of rx470, but the performance maybe should increase between 5-15% I guess due to process refinement..
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 11 2017, 12:45 PM)
Ya.. But then might as well wait rx570 which gonna be released soon.
Eventhough it is a rebrand of rx470, but the performance maybe should increase between 5-15% I guess due to process refinement..
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Yeah.. thats good advice.

From several news I read, Rx 570 will be much more power efficiency compare to Rx 470. TDP will be lower with higher performance compare to Rx 470.



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QUOTE(cipan2001 @ Apr 11 2017, 01:51 PM)
Yeah.. thats good advice.

From several news I read,  Rx 570 will be much more power efficiency compare to Rx 470. TDP will be lower with higher performance compare to Rx 470.
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Reviews for Ryzen 5 are here:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryz...5_1600X/20.html

Funnily enough TPU decided to think that the lack of integrated graphics chip on a gaming-oriented chip is a con... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(matt_rix @ Apr 8 2017, 12:38 PM)
Vega is just around the corner
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huh ??
i though they recently out that is rebrand gc not the vega

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 9 2017, 04:27 AM)
All parts gathered, left only GC @@ Hand itchy to test out ryzen... Using lappy currently T_T
1700 @@  got it from garage sales seller who price at 1399 =w= (thanks to buyer of ffk)
no point for get 1700x and above for better XFR if OC
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wao ??
1700?? then good what with that price XD


QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 10 2017, 01:09 AM)
Hmmm, AMD Vega boasts significant performance increase

http://wccftech.com/vega-teaser-slides-leak-nda/
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That's a bold claim. Will it live up to the hype?
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haha but i ssaw it show valid till 4/1

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 11 2017, 10:34 PM)
Reviews for Ryzen 5 are here:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryz...5_1600X/20.html

Funnily enough TPU decided to think that the lack of integrated graphics chip on a gaming-oriented chip is a con...  laugh.gif
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if i buy ryzen processor need get graphic card
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 12 2017, 08:42 PM)
huh ??
i though they recently out that is rebrand gc not the vega
wao ??
1700?? then good what with that price XD
haha but i ssaw it show valid till 4/1
if i buy ryzen processor need get graphic card
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Yup - Ryzen does not have an integrated graphics but for the intended market (gaming/workstation), it doesn't really matter since you are going to have a discrete one icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 12 2017, 08:59 PM)
Yup - Ryzen does not have an integrated graphics but for the intended market (gaming/workstation), it doesn't really matter since you are going to have a discrete one icon_idea.gif
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i am wonder one thing
if let say it does not have integrated graphic
can i boot up the pc without graphic card?
and just do normal usage XD
and blue stack?
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 12 2017, 09:15 PM)
i am wonder one thing
if let say it does not have integrated graphic
can i boot up the pc without graphic card?
and just do normal usage XD
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No - your PC will not boot unless a GPU is installed. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Apr 12 2017, 11:32 PM)
No - your PC will not boot unless a GPU is installed.  icon_idea.gif
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so no so fast upgrade yet
not yet decide on which gc yet
no news on vega when will releases
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 12 2017, 09:15 PM)
i am wonder one thing
if let say it does not have integrated graphic
can i boot up the pc without graphic card?
and just do normal usage XD
and blue stack?
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no graphic processor then how to boot & do normal usage lah if there's nothing on the screen ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 12 2017, 08:42 PM)
huh ??
i though they recently out that is rebrand gc not the vega
wao ??
1700?? then good what with that price XD
haha but i ssaw it show valid till 4/1
if i buy ryzen processor need get graphic card
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Yup, luckily XD Otherwise, i will move to r5 1600 @@ Anyway, mobo in malaysia expensive, especially Asrock X370 taichi in malaysia RM1009 compared to USD 160 ... about 25% @@

The best in US, u can get bundle R7 1700 with bundle mobo and get discount 100 bucks...
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 13 2017, 11:51 AM)
Yup, luckily XD Otherwise, i will move to r5 1600 @@ Anyway, mobo in malaysia expensive, especially Asrock X370 taichi in malaysia RM1009 compared to USD 160 ... about 25% @@

The best in US, u can get bundle R7 1700 with bundle mobo and get discount 100 bucks...
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Haha jealous u
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 13 2017, 02:11 PM)
Haha jealous u
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Looks like 1600X and 1500X not in stock yet.
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 13 2017, 03:21 PM)
I used more in pc than phone @@ coz flagship spec phone commonly just a low end phone after two year...
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Apr 13 2017, 05:11 PM)
Looks like 1600X and 1500X not in stock yet.
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hi guys, just to inquire about something. im torn between rx 480 8gb vs rx 580 4gb as both prices are quite similar. which one is a better buy? rclxub.gif
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based on what i know rx 580 is rebrand of rx 480
but how is the performance
then i not sure
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Apr 14 2017, 08:58 PM)
hi guys, just to inquire about something. im torn between rx 480 8gb vs rx 580 4gb as both prices are quite similar. which one is a better buy? rclxub.gif
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Which 480 8GB? Lousy cooler or good one?

580 is most likely like what the 390 did to the 290. Better BIOS, better memory chip, tighter memory timing, slightly lower power consumption(or higher depend on BIOS).
If you're going to keep it for many years i suggest grab the 8GB model.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 14 2017, 11:12 PM)
Which 480 8GB? Lousy cooler or good one?

580 is most likely like what the 390 did to the 290. Better BIOS, better memory chip, tighter memory timing, slightly lower power consumption(or higher depend on BIOS).
If you're going to keep it for many years i suggest grab the 8GB model.
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Sapphire nitro+ 480 8gb to be exact. dont think im topping up for the 8gb on rx 580. so for now just rx 480 8gb vs rx 580 4gb (both from sapphire nitro+)
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Apr 14 2017, 08:58 PM)
hi guys, just to inquire about something. im torn between rx 480 8gb vs rx 580 4gb as both prices are quite similar. which one is a better buy? rclxub.gif
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im using msi rx480 gaming x 8gb. bought it bcoz all stock finish for the 4gb version. played saveral games the division,witcher 3,bf1, watchdog,gtav in 1080p. vram usage max 3.5gb~4gb. almost never hit more than 4. smile.gif
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 14 2017, 10:27 PM)
based on what i know rx 580 is rebrand of rx 480
but how is the performance
then i not sure
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based on leaked benchmark test, should around +-10% performace of rx480, but it was test under base clock.
As Nitro+ ver, it can oc to 1342mhz, not sure bout rx580 nitro+ can oc more than 1400mhz or not @@ wait for release XD
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Apr 14 2017, 11:55 PM)
Sapphire nitro+ 480 8gb to be exact. dont think im topping up for the 8gb on rx 580. so for now just rx 480 8gb vs rx 580 4gb (both from sapphire nitro+)
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Wait for user review if you that slightly more performance really matters to you.

QUOTE(acapniamaxtor @ Apr 15 2017, 12:29 AM)
im using msi rx480 gaming x 8gb. bought it bcoz all stock finish for the 4gb version. played saveral games the division,witcher 3,bf1, watchdog,gtav in 1080p. vram usage max 3.5gb~4gb. almost never hit more than 4. smile.gif
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What about next year? or year after that? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 15 2017, 12:40 AM)
based on leaked benchmark test, should around +-10% performace of rx480, but it was test under base clock.
As Nitro+ ver, it can oc to 1342mhz, not sure bout rx580 nitro+ can oc more than 1400mhz or not @@ wait for release XD
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but i checked the rx 480 price
omg
almost 13xx > <
i think i just can aim rm 3xx gc lol XD
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 15 2017, 02:07 AM)
but i checked the rx 480 price
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almost 13xx > <
i think i just can aim rm 3xx gc lol XD
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Wait for user review if you that slightly more performance really matters to you.
What about next year? or year after that? tongue.gif
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Slight performance doesn't really matter much to me but power consumption better hardware parts maybe? On the rx 580 are what I'm looking for. Read some where that it reduce consumption. Rx 480 about 225 and rx 580 about 150 ( same as gtx 1060)
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Apr 15 2017, 10:00 AM)
Slight performance doesn't really matter much to me but power consumption better hardware parts maybe? On the rx 580 are what I'm looking for. Read some where that it reduce consumption. Rx 480 about 225 and rx 580 about 150 ( same as gtx 1060)
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Another thing that RX580 will improve is on some part that lacks on RX480 like inferior VRMs in Power Color RX480. They improved it in RX580 version and Gigabyte Aorus RX580 looks much better compare to their RX480 G1 Gaming and i think it will perform like other brand premium line.

AMD card power consumption varies depend on BIOS and chip binning while Nvidia cards depend on BIOS/board power limit and GPU Boost 3.0, usually power limit is similar on all card so these card will have similar power consumption while the final boost speed varies.

AMD RX 480
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I can't comment on lower power consumption because i don't have any data on how much the chip will improve with process maturity on GloFo 14nm LPP.
It was insignificant on 390/390x refresh but that probably because TSMC 28nm already matured that time while GloFo/Samsung 14nm LPP is pretty new for GPU.
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3 days ain't far. Just wait for the review tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 15 2017, 09:34 AM)
Bought my 290x for RM 1.1k new in early 2015 and now you get similar performance for more money.  :thumbsup: xD
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1st RX 580 benchmark leaked
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-580-over...enchmarks-leak/

Seems performance not bad due to get maximum stable overclock was at 1480/8500 with +12mV.
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Meh, Polaris doesn't need GPU clockspeed boost. It could use more memory bandwidth like using GDDR5X. RX 470 is close to RX 480 performance when the former using the same memory speed as the latter.
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 16 2017, 09:35 PM)
Meh, Polaris doesn't need GPU clockspeed boost. It could use more memory bandwidth like using GDDR5X. RX 470 is close to RX 480 performance when the former using the same memory speed as the latter.
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nitro+ limited edition specs leaked:
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108mhz uplift over rx480 nitro+, not bad just for 14nm LPP refinement, maybe we could see vega clocked at at least 1500mhz on stock.
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That TDP bump of RX580 from 150W to 185W, and a recommended power supply of 600W. ><
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 18 2017, 10:38 AM)
nitro+ limited edition specs leaked:
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108mhz uplift over rx480 nitro+, not bad just for 14nm LPP refinement, maybe we could see vega clocked at at least 1500mhz on stock.
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huh rx 580 is called vega gc?
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 18 2017, 10:18 PM)
huh rx 580 is called vega gc?
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should be Polaris Refresh. R590 and above will be VEGA iinm.
and the spec sheet stated correctly as well.
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RX580 just 5% performance incease than rx480... tdp higher and performance/watt increase, i thought can be better of tdp due to better vrm or power design? @@

Price is cheaper usd10 than previous lolz... Where's vega= =
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 18 2017, 10:47 PM)
RX580 just 5% performance incease than rx480... tdp higher and performance/watt increase, i thought can be better of tdp due to better vrm or power design? @@

Price is cheaper usd10 than previous lolz... Where's vega= =
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in layman's term meaning higher performance by 5% with higher power consumption?
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QUOTE(Songchien @ Apr 18 2017, 09:51 PM)
That TDP bump of RX580 from 150W to 185W, and a recommended power supply of 600W. ><
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Newsflash - overclocked GPU consumes more power

In other news, water is wet - it's an overclocked RX 480 after all so it's kinda expected icon_idea.gif

Also the recommended PSU is overkill as most manufacturers tend to go overboard with their PSU requirements (presumably intended to avoid potential false advertising) icon_idea.gif

https://www.computerbase.de/2017-04/radeon-...e-battlefield-1

Interestingly the idle power consumption is pretty good, especially on multimonitor setups (which is a very well known problem among AMD cards) icon_idea.gif

If you think the 185W TDP is bad then imagine my HD7950 with a TDP of something closer to 200W sweat.gif

Also TDP is not an indication of power consumption - this has been debunked for many times icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 18 2017, 10:47 PM)
RX580 just 5% performance incease than rx480... tdp higher and performance/watt increase, i thought can be better of tdp due to better vrm or power design? @@

Price is cheaper usd10 than previous lolz... Where's vega= =
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Better power design doesn't mean it will consume less power. tongue.gif

This is similar to 390/390x refresh. HardwareCanucks show the 580 perform kinda good though.
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IMHO the winners here are the RX550/RX560 as it is one of the first mainstream AMD cards to be offered with low profile designs (which is fantastic for SFF or god forbids, prebuilt machines) brows.gif

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Is it just me or does RX 580 specs look lower than R9 390X?
No, I'm not trolling. I'm trying to understand why

Or is there RX 590 coming soon?
Really need to RMA my 390X. Only 1 year warranty left. But looking at RX 580 specs, I'm not convinced I should send it for RMA now sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 19 2017, 11:09 PM)
Is it just me or does RX 580 specs look lower than R9 390X?
No, I'm not trolling. I'm trying to understand why
It pretty much is.

My R9 390 performs greater than my RX 470, so an RX 480 is around R9 390 performance.

Since RX 580 is basically RX 480 with higher clocks, the performance should be around (I reckon lower) when compared to R9 390X.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 19 2017, 11:11 PM)
It pretty much is.

My R9 390 performs greater than my RX 470, so an RX 480 is around R9 390 performance.

Since RX 580 is basically RX 480 with higher clocks, the performance should be around (I reckon lower) when compared to R9 390X.
So should I wait?
It's running fine when I downclock it to AMD official clockspeed for 390X. Only when on PowerColor factory overclocked speed the card starts to produce artifacts
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 19 2017, 11:15 PM)
So should I wait?
It's running fine when I downclock it to AMD official clockspeed for 390X. Only when on PowerColor factory overclocked speed the card starts to produce artifacts
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I think wait to see how it turn out http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57196/amd-ra...-580/index.html

biggrin.gif With RX 580, you're better off wait for stock-clearance RX 480 it seems.

For me I only liked RX 480 when it was launched, it was then overtaken by the GTX 1060 in every way, then the RX 470 alone could come really close to it and costs far less.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 19 2017, 11:16 PM)
biggrin.gif With RX 580, you're better off wait for stock-clearance RX 480 it seems.
I'm not gonna buy tongue.gif
Just hoping when I RMA my 390X, I'd get something worthy of the card. Possibly RX 590? Who knows

But as I mentioned earlier, RX 580 specs look lower than 390X, that's why I'm having doubts either I should RMA the card now or not
1 year warranty left.

Forgot to mention earlier
AMD official clockspeed for 390X is 1050 MHz
Whereas PowerColor overclocked speed is 1100 MHz
That 50 MHz bump really puts a damper in my gaming

But once I downlocked the card to 1050MHz, everything runs smoothly without any hickups
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New architecture, basically higher performance at lower power draw.

If I'm not mistaken RX 480 is replaces R9 380X.

No news of any 590.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 19 2017, 11:22 PM)
No news of any 590.
Damn sweat.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 19 2017, 11:22 PM)
New architecture, basically higher performance at lower power draw.

If I'm not mistaken RX 480 is replaces R9 380X.

No news of any 590.
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 19 2017, 11:25 PM)
Damn sweat.gif
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I guess there wont be RX 590.. Maybe AMD is aiming Vega next.. brows.gif
If there is RX 590 my guess would be 2x RX 480 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 19 2017, 11:31 PM)
I guess there wont be RX 590.. Maybe AMD is aiming Vega next..  brows.gif
If there is RX 590 my guess would be 2x RX 480  sweat.gif
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Could low yields of HBM2 memory be the cause? hmm.gif
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Price drop a bit spotted, RX480 nitro + 8gb from 1369 ->1300, RX470 nitro + 8gb now only 1100 (in lazada)

RX 580 is better than R9 390x a bit (within 5%), TDP should better.

Improvement from RX480 to RX580, mainly new pcb design with better VRM and hsf, solve single monitor power usage issue of RX480.
But get only 5-10% improvement than RX480 by more 30% power consumption...


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which is better buy RX570 4GB for RM970 or buy a used RX480? coz based on guru3d charts 570 4GB does trade blows with 480 8GB hmm.gif

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QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Apr 20 2017, 11:42 AM)
which is better buy RX570 4GB for RM970 or buy a used RX480? coz based on guru3d charts 570 4GB does trade blows with 480 8GB  hmm.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-r...g-x-review.html
https://www.facebook.com/techviewitsolution...694069137277185
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http://www.tech-critter.com/2017/04/amd-of...ts-ryzen-5.html

RX 570 = the card for 1080p gaming on ultra settings with guaranteed > 60 fps rclxms.gif
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Asus Strix RX580 8gb = RM1699 lol that price shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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Asus Strix RX580 8gb = RM1699 lol that price  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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sapphire nitro+ rx 580 8gb also for rm 1551
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 20 2017, 01:28 AM)
Price drop a bit spotted, RX480 nitro + 8gb from 1369 ->1300, RX470 nitro + 8gb now only 1100 (in lazada)

RX 580 is better than R9 390x a bit (within 5%), TDP should better.

Improvement from RX480 to RX580, mainly new pcb design with better VRM and hsf, solve single monitor power usage issue of RX480.
But get only 5-10% improvement than RX480 by more 30% power consumption...
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dam, the 30% more power consumption is whats holding me back. thinking to get rx 480 but currently out of stock from the seller that im going to buy my rig from. how about TDP? rx 580 higher than rx 480?
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The clock speed is higher guys, also i read RX580 BIOSes is default core voltage at 1.2v? That is higher than RX480 BIOS, you can always undervolt it.
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Apr 20 2017, 08:38 PM)
dam, the 30% more power consumption is whats holding me back. thinking to get rx 480 but currently out of stock from the seller that im going to buy my rig from. how about TDP? rx 580 higher than rx 480?
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RX580 with newer power design and better cooling, temps higher than rx480 about 10~15%.
You can flash rx480 to get rx580 performance,but be careful with old power design and may get higher temp.


QUOTE(iguana_dude_619 @ Apr 20 2017, 11:42 AM)
which is better buy RX570 4GB for RM970 or buy a used RX480? coz based on guru3d charts 570 4GB does trade blows with 480 8GB  hmm.gif

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-r...g-x-review.html
https://www.facebook.com/techviewitsolution...694069137277185
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I'm done calculation according review, performance of 1080p should around this.

Average fps performance based on Sapphire Nitro+ factory boost 8gb ver at gaming 1080p
(sure u can oc better clocks, if u get lucky, even RX470 can oc till 1350mhz, as well as rx480 can oc to 1450mhz, just rx580 is hard to get 1500mhz due to unstable)

RM1550 RX580 1450mhz = 100%
RM1310 RX480 1342mhz = 93%
RM1370 RX570 1340mhz = 92.5% ?
RM1100 RX470 1260mhz = 89%

If u want to save more budget, go for 4gb model, can save back bout RM150~200, cause current game under 1080p rarely consume more than 3.5gb vram.
If ask for better future with 8gb vram, seems its will harder to get 60fps at highest setting after 2~3 years, personally thinks is kinda useless.
If want gaming 1440p, sure 8gb vram is da best~ but almost current game, rx580 range is hard to handle 60fps at 1440p ...

If performance/RM, can consider old time Sapphire Nitro Fury Tri-X, just RM1550 same price with RX580, but better performance than RX580, especially at 1440p ~
But roughly RM1600 for fury or rx580, better i go off with an used unit of GTX1070 even there r some new unit of GTX1070, just price at RM1700...

Still, best value will go to RX470 4gb @@ Get it below RM1k and gaming almost smoothly in 1080p.
Sure, if u possible get a used RX480 8gb below RM1100, its a sweet point.
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 20 2017, 10:04 PM)
RX580 with newer power design and better cooling, temps higher than rx480 about 10~15%.
You can flash rx480 to get rx580 performance,but be careful with old power design and may get higher temp.
I'm done calculation according review, performance of 1080p should around this.

Average fps performance based on Sapphire Nitro+ factory boost 8gb ver at gaming 1080p
(sure u can oc better clocks, if u get lucky, even RX470 can oc till 1350mhz, as well as rx480 can oc to 1450mhz, just rx580 is hard to get 1500mhz due to unstable)

RM1550 RX580 1450mhz = 100%
RM1310 RX480 1342mhz =  93%
RM1370 RX570 1340mhz =  92.5% ?
RM1100 RX470 1260mhz =  89%

If u want to save more budget, go for 4gb model, can save back bout RM150~200, cause current game under 1080p rarely consume more than 3.5gb vram.
If ask for better future with 8gb vram, seems its will harder to get 60fps at highest setting after 2~3 years, personally thinks is kinda useless.
If want gaming 1440p, sure 8gb vram is da best~ but almost current game, rx580 range is hard to handle 60fps at 1440p ...

If performance/RM, can consider old time Sapphire Nitro Fury Tri-X, just RM1550 same price with RX580, but better performance than RX580, especially at 1440p ~
But roughly RM1600 for fury or rx580, better i go off with an used unit of GTX1070 even there r some new unit of GTX1070, just price at RM1700...

Still, best value will go to RX470 4gb @@ Get it below RM1k and gaming almost smoothly in 1080p.
Sure, if u possible get a used RX480 8gb below  RM1100, its a sweet point.
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one question, does the rx 580 4gb variant consume same power / less TDP than 8gb?
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one question, does the rx 580 4gb variant consume same power / less TDP than  8gb?
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Should not much different, cause power is more to gpu @@ same as u get 32gb or 16gb in ur pc rig, get very very minimal power consume.

But if u want to 1440p gaming and dun mind game not runs max setting, just stick to 8gb vram.
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Should not much different, cause power is more to gpu @@ same as u get 32gb or 16gb in ur pc rig, get very very minimal power consume.

But if u want to 1440p gaming and dun mind game not runs max setting, just stick to 8gb vram.
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guess it makes more sense to get 8gb since the difference is rm191? and im using dual monitor
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 20 2017, 01:28 AM)
Improvement from RX480 to RX580, mainly new pcb design with better VRM and hsf, solve single monitor power usage issue of RX480.
But get only 5-10% improvement than RX480 by more 30% power consumption...
Should be about 20% more power, going from the rated 150W to around 180W.

Not a good move I find.

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guess it makes more sense to get 8gb since the difference is rm191? and im using dual monitor
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Dual monitor, depends ~ If u want run two vram intensive gameat same time, or worry bout future performance that maybe 1080p will more consume than 4gb vram,just go for 8g.
Sure, if u willing to pay more, its better for higher vram.

Save rm150-200 from 8gb to 4gb is worth if not demand highest performance of your gpu and just for gaming 1080p.

Anyway, if got more budget and want more juicy in higher resolution gaming, can try wait Vega news,becoz if rumors are truth, should release or news in may.

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Should be about 20% more power, going from the rated 150W to around 180W.

Not a good move I find.
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Even 20%, but just for 5% performace, make me hold back... I thought if pricing okay or better performance, i will get one for my ryzen rig, really itchy to build it up =w=

But now .... just =x=.... i just see got any nice price used rx480 or waiting for vega, or hope rx 470/ 480 drop more? XD

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Even 20%, but just for 5% performace, make me hold back... I thought if pricing okay or better performance, i will get one for my ryzen rig, really itchy to build it up =w=

But now .... just =x=.... i just see got any nice price used rx480 or waiting for vega, or hope rx 470/ 480 drop more? XD
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me too, really cant decide. so far im leaning towards rx 580 because rx 480 out of stock (etech pc). vega way out of budget for me.
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Why not make order through lazada (there are dotatech) or garage sales distributer? If dun mind pay more 3%, lelong as well.

Etechpc XD i just get a asrock taichi from there last two weeks. Hope they wont shut down suddenly as the boss before... Will be annoying when RMA some stuff @@

Vega, still unconfirm, if amd really release for compete gtx 1080, the price may below than gtx1080? just top up to around rm2k?
If as rumor, there's r few version of vega, it should be nice if got an option near gtx1070 price range.

If possible, i want get newer pcb design RX580, but price... Top up more RM200~300, can get a use gtx1070 under warranty or maybe new gtx1070 @@
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Why not make order through lazada (there are dotatech) or garage sales distributer? If dun mind pay more 3%, lelong as well.

Etechpc XD i just get a asrock taichi from there last two weeks. Hope they wont shut down suddenly as the boss before... Will be annoying when RMA some stuff @@

Vega, still unconfirm, if amd really release for compete gtx 1080, the price may below than gtx1080? just top up to around rm2k?
If as rumor, there's r few version of vega, it should be nice if got an option near gtx1070 price range.

If possible, i want get newer pcb design RX580, but price... Top up more RM200~300, can get a use gtx1070 under warranty or maybe new gtx1070 @@
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im actually looking for newer parts and priority on durability. Hence 580 > 480, as you said newer pcb mean better build? asrock is the only mobo manufacturer emphasize so much on their durability ( better pcb, premium choke, nichicon caps) *maybe i fell for their marketing? im not sure* and its one of the the cheapest x370 board around.
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im actually looking for newer parts and priority on durability. Hence 580 > 480, as you said newer pcb mean better build? asrock is the only mobo manufacturer emphasize so much on their durability ( better pcb, premium choke, nichicon caps) *maybe i fell for their marketing? im not sure* and its one of the the cheapest x370 board around.
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new pcb, newer vvrm, better cooling, and 8+6pin power connector? XD
I had watch youtube which breakdown taichi, the vrm design and component model is quiet 1 of best higher end x370.
As audio part, asrock also done a well job as well, its worth to get it if willing to pay for better X370.

Asus got a nearly same vrm as well, but i didnt check its breakdown, and i dont really like asus product, from my past experience.

MSI X370 titanium is using the vrm which u can find even at B350 mobo...


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new pcb, newer vvrm, better cooling, and 8+6pin power connector? XD
I had watch youtube which breakdown taichi, the vrm design and component model is quiet 1 of best higher end x370.
As audio part, asrock also done a well job as well, its worth to get it if willing to pay for better X370.

Asus got a nearly same vrm as well, but i didnt check its breakdown, and i dont really like asus product, from my past experience.

MSI X370 titanium is using the vrm which u can find even at B350 mobo...
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aaah! i wondered why their b350 is the most expensive one. now thats explained it. i heard a lot good things about b350 tomahawk but just topup a bit can get x370 from asrock.
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aaah! i wondered why their b350 is the most expensive one. now thats explained it. i heard a lot good things about b350 tomahawk but just topup a bit can get x370 from asrock.
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Becareful asrock mid end x370 board also mix with average vrm components, some using niko-sem and some using sinopower
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Becareful asrock mid end x370 board also mix with average vrm components, some using niko-sem and some using sinopower
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Am I safe to say that msi b350 tomahawk has better components than asrock x370 gaming k4? But msi with less features?
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Am I safe to say that msi b350 tomahawk has better components than asrock x370 gaming k4? But msi with less features?
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On paper,
Asrock gaming k4/sli X370 mobo has 4X2+2x2 power phase, IR35201 as power phase controller. PZ0903BK as highside MOSFET, PK618BA as lowside MOSFET. 12k polymer solid Capacitor.

MSI krait X370 has 4x2+2 power phase, RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.

MSI tomahawk B350 has 4+2 power phase, RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.

MSI carbon pro B350 has 4x2+2 power phase, RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.


In comparison,
IR35201 which commonly found in top tier mobo is greater controller than RT8894A .

PZ0903BK is newer gen, there's no datasheet online yet, so is hard comparable to PK616BA.

PK618BA is 5.5 mΩ 59A and PK632BA is 3.3mΩ 78A, both is same range MOSFET as their price is same range. PK632A should better than PK618BA due to higher amps?
Actually, ryzen draw only low power for SOC, commonly is enough for both, only APU need draw more due to iGPU usage.

Doubler of VRM is better for cooling and stability in theory, my opinion, asrock x370 k4 still better than msi carbon pro, even lower end of msi X370. MSI overpriced for above RM500 mobo...

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Am I safe to say that msi b350 tomahawk has better components than asrock x370 gaming k4? But msi with less features?
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My asrock x370 fatality k4 is using sinopower instead of niko sem vrm, peoples are saying sinopower is better than niko sem (i totally have no idea, i only know Texas Instrument is the best biggrin.gif). When i bought the board i never check all these about . Initially i also plan to buy tomahawk b350 but after knowing that price for asrock x370 boards (killer and fatality k4) not much different from tomahawk i immediately decide to buy fatality k4.
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QUOTE(llk @ Apr 21 2017, 12:48 PM)
My asrock x370 fatality k4 is using sinopower instead of niko sem vrm, peoples are saying sinopower is better than niko sem (i totally have no idea, i only know Texas Instrument is the best biggrin.gif). When i bought the board i never check all these about . Initially i also plan to buy tomahawk b350 but after knowing that price for asrock x370 boards (killer and fatality k4) not much different from tomahawk i immediately decide to buy fatality k4.
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You had remove ur heatsink? As info in net, there r two possiblity mosfet of asrock k4/sli, either sinopower or niko sem.
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You had remove ur heatsink? As info in net, there r two possiblity mosfet of asrock k4/sli, either sinopower or niko sem.
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Yup, removed and seen, the VRM chips has sinopower logo on top. And yup according to online info either sinopower or niko sem. I oc my 1700 to 3.9ghz 1.3v running aida64 stability test the heatsink is pretty hot to touch, too bad the board do not have temperature sensor for vrm therefore unable to check with the exact temperature.
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Yup, removed and seen, the VRM chips has sinopower logo on top. And yup according to online info either sinopower or niko sem. I oc my 1700 to 3.9ghz 1.3v running aida64 stability test the heatsink is pretty hot to touch, too bad the board do not have temperature sensor for vrm therefore unable to check with the exact temperature.
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Should be ok with 1.3v @@ I saw pp from reddit post taht he fried mobo x370 (no model stated) when oc... i forget how much vcore he used for, but in below 1.4v is hard to imagine how to fried the mobo as ryzen consume draw lower amp and watt.

Had u tried to 4ghz ? seems u got great silicon which can oc 3.9 at 1.3v

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Should be ok with 1.3v @@ I saw pp from reddit post taht he fried mobo x370 (no model stated) when oc...  i forget how much vcore he used for, but in below 1.4v is hard to imagine how to fried the mobo as ryzen consume draw lower amp and watt.

Had u tried to 4ghz ? seems u got great silicon which can oc 3.9 at 1.3v
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I think is quite normal for 1700 to do 3.9, i'm not sure. But my friend's one not even to run at 3.8 regardless any voltage input. I haven't try 4.0 yet, even though i have watercooled the chip but the temperature seem abit high too, idle ranging from 30+ to 40+, full load (aida64 stability test) around 60+ to 70.
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I think is quite normal for 1700 to do 3.9, i'm not sure. But my friend's one not even to run at 3.8 regardless any voltage input. I haven't try 4.0 yet, even though i have watercooled the chip but the temperature seem abit high too, idle ranging from 30+ to 40+, full load (aida64 stability test) around 60+ to 70.
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According to the statistic,
Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

I had checked OC form who filled under overclock club forum? Get 3.9ghz wit 1.3v is rare, commonly hit up 1.35v and nearlu hit 1.4v. The best silicon lottery, is hit 4.0 and above with 1.3v.

Whats your water cooling model? is it custom? I think u wont use ur pc daily as under strees test?@@

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Finally Vega?!

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According to the statistic,
Ryzen 7 1700
93% reach 3.8GHz @ 1.376V
70% reach 3.9GHz @ 1.408V
20% reach 4.0GHz @ 1.440V

I had checked OC form who filled under overclock club forum? Get 3.9ghz wit 1.3v is rare, commonly hit up 1.35v and nearlu hit 1.4v. The best silicon lottery, is hit 4.0 and above with 1.3v.

Whats your water cooling model? is it custom?
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Yup i'm using custom watercooling which was used for my x99 system, one 480mm radiator with 8x120mm fan push pull configuration for the cpu itself. I'm still try to figure out how to cool down the vrm before i can push further, i'm worried that the mobo will fried out since it is not using high quality VRM chips if i increase more the voltage
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On paper,
Asrock gaming k4/sli X370 mobo has 4X2+2x2 power phase, IR35201 as power phase controller. PZ0903BK as highside MOSFET, PK618BA as lowside MOSFET. 12k polymer solid Capacitor.

MSI krait X370 has 4x2+2 power phase,  RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.

MSI tomahawk B350 has 4+2 power phase,  RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.

MSI carbon pro B350  has 4x2+2 power phase,  RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.
In comparison,
IR35201 which commonly found in top tier mobo is greater controller than RT8894A .

PZ0903BK is newer gen, there's no datasheet online yet, so is hard comparable to PK616BA.

PK618BA is 5.5 mΩ 59A and PK632BA is 3.3mΩ 78A, both is same range MOSFET as their price is same range. PK632A should better than PK618BA due to higher amps?
Actually, ryzen draw only low power for SOC, commonly is enough for both, only APU need draw more due to iGPU usage.

Doubler of VRM is better for cooling and stability in theory, my opinion, asrock x370 k4 still better than msi carbon pro, even lower end of msi X370. MSI overpriced for above RM500 mobo...
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Yup, removed and seen, the VRM chips has sinopower logo on top. And yup according to online info either sinopower or niko sem. I oc my 1700 to 3.9ghz 1.3v running aida64 stability test the heatsink is pretty hot to touch, too bad the board do not have temperature sensor for vrm therefore unable to check with the exact temperature.
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K4 got vrm temperature sensor, use hwinfo to check.
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K4 got vrm temperature sensor, use hwinfo to check.
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Is it? I'm not sure which one cause it using some kind of code.
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Seems, RX 550 and 560 is the mc of RX5xx series.




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Still waiting Vega to come out and decide which card to get for 1440p.
my Hawaii is really going to go for vacation soon .........
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 12:08 AM)
Seems, RX 550 and 560 is the mc of RX5xx series.
I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. biggrin.gif

But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers.

RX 580 sucks.

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I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. biggrin.gif

But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers.

RX 580 sucks.
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Yeah, but at tat time, Just only 1 RX550 review on youtube @@ No other choice =w=
Long video really make ppl sleep, except the day of wait for vega in streaming, but just get "VEGA is VEGA" ....

RX580 is okay lah ~
for more guarantee on max setting gaming 1080p than gtx1060? Its suit for ppl who want get new card or upgrade from old 4-5 gen.

Read in reddit before, the thread is about marketing and explain why nvidia use rebrand always, and explain the fact of amd gain < usage becoz of keep push out new technology.

Kinda feel sad tat a specialist will last shorter than a buisnessman even its a truth XD

Consumer always hope for better technology, but due to consumer always like to be spoon feed, easily mislead by marketing, and the result just as now what we get.

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RX580 is okay lah ~
for more guarantee on max setting gaming 1080p than gtx1060? Its suit for ppl who want get new card or upgrade from old 4-5 gen.
No it isn't. It just exchange blows here and there so it's not a "more guarantee 1080p gaming" when compared to GTX 1060.

1. GTX 1070 available for as low as RM 2k while GTX 1060 6GB is around 1.2K range.
*RX 580 8GB price varies from around RM 1.3k to 1,5xx*

2. GTX 1060 doesn't even draw 150w power.

If it's a Polaris Refresh, it should be better but not worse. Now the power draw to performance ratio is not as good as before.
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Read in reddit before, the thread is about marketing and explain why nvidia use rebrand always, and explain the fact of amd gain < usage becoz of keep push out new technology.
Nvidia actually produces new technology too, that's why the Pascals are doing so well when compared to Maxwell.

AMD Polaris is good actually, when it was launched the RX 480 was great but it was short-lived as GTX 1060 came in.

AMD introduces technology, like their APU were great stuff but it was really niche, and their pricing sucks. After that the APU and the AMD FX range processor (Bulldozer) were stuck for a really long time.

Polaris was good, the Polaris refresh (or refined) isn't exactly refined. Now we'll have to see what they produce for Vega.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 24 2017, 06:28 PM)
I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. biggrin.gif

But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers.

RX 580 sucks.
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got any news for rx 550 and 560 price?
i not sure wan to sell off my i7-3770 now
or wait till vega out only sell out my i7 rig to ryzen 5 1600x full rig
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Nvidia actually produces new technology too, that's why the Pascals are doing so well when compared to Maxwell.

AMD Polaris is good actually, when it was launched the RX 480 was great but it was short-lived as GTX 1060 came in.

AMD introduces technology, like their APU were great stuff but it was really niche, and their pricing sucks. After that the APU and the AMD FX range processor (Bulldozer) were stuck for a really long time.

Polaris was good, the Polaris refresh (or refined) isn't exactly refined. Now we'll have to see what they produce for Vega.
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Yup, they does, but not often as much as AMD in past. One new tech occur, means need more budget.
AMD push too many new tech before, limited budget on marketing, that result most of consumer choose nvidia than ati, even nvidia is rebrand samething about 3 year?! even that time ati performance is better.
If u r a game company ceo, when u develop a game, which gpu u will priority to optimize? sure, is the more famous nvidia, even there's better performance ati.

In the time ongoing, margins of market goes to nvidia too much than ati, that cause amd budget is worse and worse.
Amd need develop both of gpu and cpu, in past, tricks of inte inl done a impact on amd as well.
Bulldozer again is a failure that made by AMD's wrong decision, all these in result, amd need to sell of their own cpu lab.

Ryzen is counted as one of big success of AMD, because this time, AMD change their method, not only in move from bulldozer to ryzen , but also invest much in marketing.
They success use a above average performance, not only in multi threading, as well in IPC, with a better the price to challange Intel.

Facebook founder wont success if without his friend done well in marketing, Microsoft wont success if bill gates fail in marketing.

Its true that technology that Nvidia sucess in Pascals, but if u look at the analysis of their marketing, there's a bid different that causes the gap between amd and nvidia, its marketing.

QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 24 2017, 10:07 PM)
got any news for rx 550 and 560 price?
i not sure wan to sell off my i7-3770 now
or wait till vega out only sell out my i7 rig to ryzen 5 1600x full rig
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Stoled this price from Idealtech =w=

I'm bought all part mix new and used early, because i want get my desktop earlier since i'm back to malaysia.
Currently, I'm using lappy, and miss out nice deal of used gpu, if i buy a new unit of rx570 4gb RM950 for gaming, nexth month vega may release, its mafan to seel out and buy new one, somemore, my lost due to just used one month, counted as failure....
This my situation @@ just because i'm not urgent use pc lah... less gaming

If ur situation, u r kin to use i7 currently and didnt any trouble, u may willing to wait for vega
Why not just wait if u not urgent.

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 24 2017, 10:33 PM)
Its true that technology that Nvidia sucess in Pascals, but if u look at the analysis of their marketing, there's a bid different that causes the gap between amd and nvidia, its marketing.
You can't market when you don't have new products. biggrin.gif

AMD didn't have many new revolutionary things. The HD 7xxx series was good but mostly used by miners, then HD 2xx and 3xx were rehash after rehash.

Fury line-up was really nice but AMD failed at the pricing part.

Polaris was nice but short-lived. Polaris Refresh need not elaborate further la.

As for Processor - APU, I really love that tech but pricing sucks and no one really picked it up. It's technology packed but in this aspect, I guess can say they failed at marketing.

Nvidia on the other hand also rehashed technology before, I bashed them before too from 8xxx series to 9000 series rehash, then the GT series weren't doing well for some time too. AMD graphics was the better choice until Max well if I'm not mistaken. Maxwell and Pascal were the real game changers for Nvidia.

Another thing to note is that Nvidia can focus on GPU alone but AMD actually focusing on CPU and GPU. biggrin.gif So can say it's AMD vs Intel + Nvidia.

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You can't market when you don't have new products. biggrin.gif

AMD didn't have many new revolutionary things. The HD 7xxx series was good but mostly used by miners, then HD 2xx and 3xx were rehash after rehash.

Fury line-up was really nice but AMD failed at the pricing part.

Polaris was nice but short-lived. Polaris Refresh need not elaborate further la.

As for Processor - APU, I really love that tech but pricing sucks and no one really picked it up. It's technology packed but in this aspect, I guess can say they failed at marketing.

Nvidia on the other hand also rehashed technology before, I bashed them before too from 8xxx series to 9000 series rehash, then the GT series weren't doing well for some time too. AMD graphics was the better choice until Max well if I'm not mistaken. Maxwell and Pascal were the real game changers for Nvidia.

Another thing to note is that Nvidia can focus on GPU alone but AMD actually focusing on CPU and GPU. biggrin.gif So can say it's AMD vs Intel + Nvidia.
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Agreed. But nvidia success play market with rebranding even new gen gains small performance increase in back year.

Many of new tech by amd in past not really useful due to not had be optimization use by other field, and nvidia start with marketing play well start with 8xxx era, start from that time, many games with nvidia logo www optimization also done better in nvidia.

Pascal really powerful for the moment, polaris is short lived because, nvidia backup with newer tech behind since they got lots of money for develop. Nvidia just as intel, they will use their advantage of market gain their better technology, and can counter any attack by release the newer tech.

Intel play the trick of 5% increasement per years with high price these years, becoz amd faildozer too many years XD

I hope vega can compete with polaris, but seems a bit hard, no news yet, just a dual polaris gpu @@ feel that amd not confidence to compete well, maybe reach gtx 1080 performance is AMD bottleneck?

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Newest news : Vega will be ready in this quarter , means we can try it before end of june? =w=

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 25 2017, 03:44 AM)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/67ab7...r_amd_facebook/

Newest news : Vega will be ready in this quarter , means we can try it before end of june? =w=
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It was already known anyway. AMD had already said it before Vega will be released in H1 2017. It's just people are impatient and AMD is giving the silence attitude tongue.gif
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It was already known anyway. AMD had already said it before Vega will be released in H1 2017. It's just people are impatient and AMD is giving the silence attitude tongue.gif
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I saw rumor before is early of May XD if they r same answer as before, it is great that rumor of not release due to scare to nvidia is fake.
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should wait for vega or volta
let them both fight
because heard volta by right is next year
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should wait for vega or volta
let them both fight
because heard volta by right is next year
but they might change to release this year
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Rumos is july for volta XD
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vega may be sapu his sales? lol
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let both of them fight
nvidia cant hold till 2018 release their volta
if not
vega may be sapu his sales? lol
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Haha war is benefit 2 the consumers
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Better than they hold Volta till next year release
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 24 2017, 06:28 PM)
I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet. biggrin.gif

But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers.

RX 580 sucks.
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mind explaining why it sucks?

im looking for an upgrade for my gtx770, and the rx580 price n specs look good, and one more thing because i just bought a monitor with amd freesync
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QUOTE(munky @ Apr 28 2017, 03:25 PM)
mind explaining why it sucks?

im looking for an upgrade for my gtx770, and the rx580 price n specs look good, and one more thing because i just bought a monitor with amd freesync
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It sucks because theres little difference in performance compared to rx 480, consume more power than than rx 480, yet slower than GTX 1070 which priced about the same as rx 580.. doh.gif

You are better of getting just RX 470 and overclock it a little to match rx 480 stock if you play on 1080p and be done with it.
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QUOTE(munky @ Apr 28 2017, 03:25 PM)
mind explaining why it sucks?

im looking for an upgrade for my gtx770, and the rx580 price n specs look good, and one more thing because i just bought a monitor with amd freesync
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RX580 only increasement 5% performance from rx480 by power consumption increase 20%.
In US, RX580 cheaper than RX480, in malaysia RX480 dropped RM50, but RX580 expensive than RX480 bout RM200.
Roughly RM150 to get an RX580 nitro+ (Best clock speed), better top up some to Fury X which better performance or go more to used/new GTX1070.

For a 2 years old tech which rebrand, its not worth at all ....
RX580 is about 60fps to current 1080p maximum setting, after 1 or 2 years? Can it still handle?

I will go to RX570 4gb RM960 which possible chance overclock better clock speed than rx480, which only 5% performance lower, if only willing targeting on current 1080p gaming.

In conculsion, RX580 not a real sweet point.
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Eh, less than 1 year old la. Polaris was released after mid of last year.

Improvement in speed is good but 10% is too little for the power draw increase.
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QUOTE(munky @ Apr 28 2017, 03:25 PM)
mind explaining why it sucks?

im looking for an upgrade for my gtx770, and the rx580 price n specs look good, and one more thing because i just bought a monitor with amd freesync
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Card is great, price is bad, in Malaysia at least.

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 28 2017, 03:36 PM)
RX580 only increasement 5% performance from rx480 by power consumption increase 20%.
In US, RX580 cheaper than RX480, in malaysia RX480 dropped RM50, but RX580 expensive than RX480 bout RM200.
Roughly RM150 to get an RX580 nitro+ (Best clock speed), better top up some to Fury X which better performance or go more to used/new GTX1070.

For a 2 years old tech which rebrand, its not worth at all ....
RX580 is about 60fps to current 1080p maximum setting, after 1 or 2 years? Can it still handle?

I will go to RX570 4gb RM960 which possible chance overclock better clock speed than rx480, which only 5% performance lower, if only willing targeting on current 1080p gaming.

In conculsion, RX580 not a real sweet point.
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Did you use aftermarket 480 for performance and reference 480 power consumption for comparison? laugh.gif
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Card is great, price is bad, in Malaysia at least.
Did you use aftermarket 480 for performance and reference 480 power consumption for comparison?  laugh.gif
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Aftermarket 480 is oc one, need hit 1440mhz very hard.
580 is oced 480, can hit nearly 1500mhz easily.
For this line rx480/rebranded rx580, increase bit of performance by consume much more power, in result, performance/watt drops.

P/S price expensive 30% than US as New Zealand, i'm ok at all ~ because currency well... But malaysia? expensive everything and low currency = sucks

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 28 2017, 06:55 PM)
Aftermarket 480 is oc one, need hit 1440mhz very hard.
580 is oced 480, can hit nearly 1500mhz easily.
For this line rx480/rebranded rx580, increase bit of performance by consume much more power, in result, performance/watt drops.

P/S price expensive 30%  than US as New Zealand, i'm ok at all ~ because currency well... But malaysia? expensive everything and low currency = sucks
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I feel your pain mang doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 28 2017, 06:55 PM)
Aftermarket 480 is oc one, need hit 1440mhz very hard.
580 is oced 480, can hit nearly 1500mhz easily.
For this line rx480/rebranded rx580, increase bit of performance by consume much more power, in result, performance/watt drops.
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You said it consumed 20% more power, is that compared to reference 480 or from new 185w TDP of RX580 vs 150w 480?

From Toms review 580 Nitro power consumption is similar to 480 Nitro when gaming.
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Performance difference is larger when using game that actually optimized.
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This was against MSI RX-480 Armor OC clocked at @1300mhz, not crappy 480 with reference cooler.

Also like i mentioned before, RX580 default voltage is higher, you can always undervolt it.
I once downvolted my old 290x at -75mV while giving is a slight bump in core clock to 1060mhz(1040mhz) and memory clock to 1500mhz(1250mhz) while consumed less power compare to stock setting.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 28 2017, 11:14 PM)
You said it consumed 20% more power, is that compared to reference 480 or from new 185w TDP of RX580 vs 150w 480?

From Toms review 580 Nitro power consumption is similar to 480 Nitro when gaming.
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Performance difference is larger when using game that actually optimized.
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This was against MSI RX-480 Armor OC clocked at @1300mhz, not crappy 480 with reference cooler.

Also like i mentioned before, RX580 default voltage is higher, you can always undervolt it.
I once downvolted my old 290x at -75mV while giving is a slight bump in core clock to 1060mhz(1040mhz) and memory clock to 1500mhz(1250mhz) while consumed less power compare to stock setting.
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This is from tweaktown (3D marks and Metro Light). Yours from tomshardware (gaming and tortune).
Tourtune test in tom's hardware result more power consumption than rx 480 nitro.

If tweaktown is true, 27w~37w increase just for a gpu is not a performace/watt choice. Anyway, the performace/watt oledi lose to gtx1060 long time ago @@

Who's right? I dunno sweat.gif

If there's no increase of power consumption, its great, actually, even there is increase of 30w average, wont hurt u tnb bill so much per year @@
If really willing for save tnb bill, just go to gtx 1060 @@
But still i wont happy, RM200 from nitro 480 to nitro 580, price increase 20% to get u 5% overall performance increase, 10% for game optimization.
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 29 2017, 12:21 AM)
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This is from tweaktown (3D marks and Metro Light). Yours from tomshardware (gaming and tortune).
Tourtune test in tom's hardware result more power consumption than rx 480 nitro.

If tweaktown is true, 27w~37w increase just for a gpu is not a performace/watt choice. Anyway, the performace/watt oledi lose to gtx1060 long time ago @@

Who's right? I dunno  sweat.gif

If there's no increase of  power consumption, its great, actually, even there is increase of 30w average, wont hurt u tnb bill so much per year @@
If really willing for save tnb bill, just go to gtx 1060 @@
But still i wont happy, RM200 from nitro 480 to nitro 580, price increase 20% to get u 5% overall performance increase, 10% for game optimization.
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I prefer direct measurement instead of "total system". laugh.gif

Also i don't understand, they tested it with Ryzen R5-1600x?
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For our mid-range testing, we're shifting over to testing the cards on our AMD Ryzen 5 1600X system. It represents more real-world results compared to benchmarking them on the Core i7-7700K, especially when the Ryzen 5 1600X is priced at $100 cheaper than the 7700K, and offers 6C/12T of performance over the 4C/8T chip from Intel.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (6C/12T)
Cooler: AMD Wraith Cooler
MB: ASRock AB350 Gaming K4
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) GEiL EVO X 3200MHz DDR4
SSD: 1TB OCZ RD400 NVMe M.2
PSU: be quiet! Dark Power 1200W
Chassis: In Win X-Frame


But at OC and Power page they said
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With the overclocked Polaris 20 core hitting 1505MHz in my testing, the SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ sitting on the Core i7-7700K system was using an average of 270W, while peaking at 290W.


And their Power Consumption graph show the card averaging(?) ~280watts at stock? with stock Ryzen R5-1600x system?
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But their Ryzen R5 review show R5-1600x system use similar power to i7-7700k system?
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They mentioned midrange card and adjust their test system for "midrange build" but wiling to waste their time to test on 4k, 5k and even 8k resolution when giving more insight about the card frame time performance at 1080p/1440p is more valuable info to viewers/readers.

IIRC, Toms torture test = Furmark and gaming test = Metro:LL@4K. Like i mentioned few pages back..
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that's what i learnt when i'm still using 290x, i think it still apply to Polaris line up.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 29 2017, 01:23 AM)
I prefer direct measurement instead of "total system". laugh.gif

Also i don't understand, they tested it with Ryzen R5-1600x?
But at OC and Power page they said

And their Power Consumption graph show the card averaging(?) ~280watts at stock? with stock Ryzen R5-1600x system?
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But their Ryzen R5 review show R5-1600x system use similar power to i7-7700k system?
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They mentioned midrange card and adjust their test system for "midrange build" but wiling to waste their time to test on 4k, 5k and even 8k resolution when giving more insight about the card frame time performance at 1080p/1440p is more valuable info to viewers/readers.

IIRC, Toms torture test = Furmark and gaming test = Metro:LL@4K. Like i mentioned few pages back..that's what i learnt  when i'm still using 290x, i think it still apply to Polaris line up.
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Agreed. But i need some explain, gaming in tom's is according to what game?
Because there is quiet weird that gaming maintain almost nothisng sifferent power consumption but the tortune which is benchmark give a noticeable different.
As common, i know that a benchamrk may push a gpu as hard as possible, is it possible that the power consumption under gaming in tomb's for game which not really gpu intensive?

Actually, is it worth to have a RX580? Its depends on different ppl different need, different choice.
I feel sucks, just because of improvement performace lightly from rebrand, consume more power if utilize?, the most i care is pricey more 20%

Just for my 2 cent of logical, i may getting a used/new GTX 1070 or RM1650 fury-x over a RM1550 nitro+ RX 580.
If i'm in condition of tight budget, why not i just choose better value of nitro pulse RX570 4gb which possible oc higher clock than rx480 by oc.

AMD card power consumption varies depend on BIOS and chip binning<- this doesnt apply to nvidia as well?

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 28 2017, 11:14 PM)
You said it consumed 20% more power, is that compared to reference 480 or from new 185w TDP of RX580 vs 150w 480?

From Toms review 580 Nitro power consumption is similar to 480 Nitro when gaming.
RX 580 has no reference model, however I've used RX 480 reference model.

Power draw really is estimated to be around 20% increase.

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 29 2017, 01:51 AM)
Agreed. But i need some explain, gaming in tom's is according to what game?
Because there is quiet weird that gaming maintain almost nothisng sifferent power consumption but the tortune which is benchmark give a noticeable different.
As common, i know that a benchamrk may push a gpu as hard as possible, is it possible that the power consumption under gaming in tomb's for game which not really gpu intensive?

Actually, is it worth to have a RX580? Its depends on different ppl different need, different choice.
I feel sucks, just because of improvement performace lightly from rebrand, consume more power if utilize?, the most i care is pricey more 20%

Just for my 2 cent of logical, i may getting a used/new GTX 1070 or RM1650 fury-x over a RM1550 nitro+ RX 580.
If i'm in condition of tight budget, why not i just choose better value of nitro pulse RX570 4gb which possible oc higher clock than rx480 by oc.

AMD card power consumption varies depend on BIOS and chip binning<- this doesnt apply to nvidia as well?
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Gaming = Metro:LL@4K
Torture = Furmark

Of course 580 will use more power in Furmark since it have higher clock speed and higher voltage, i think that model they tested run at 1450mhz.

Yeah the price sucks, bought my 980 Ti 10 months ago for RM1.6k new.

I don't think Nvidia binned their chip anymore since Pascal and BIOS power limit is higher on some higher end card but most of them have similar power limit, with GPU Boost 3.0 and good cooling all of them will consume similar power at max boost speed.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 29 2017, 01:53 AM)
RX 580 has no reference model, however I've used RX 480 reference model.

Power draw really is estimated to be around 20% increase.
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That's the thing, reference 480 got nerfed to fix the "PCIE power issue". Use aftermarket 480 then power consumption gap will narrow or diminish.
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That's the thing, reference 480 got nerfed to fix the "PCIE power issue". Use aftermarket 480 then power consumption gap will narrow or diminish.
I think you're missing the point, RX 480 was designed to be under 150W whether reference or custom, it's just that some custom models draw a little more.

RX 580 on the other hand was designed to be at 180W right from the start, whether reference or custom. However for RX 580 there is no reference design. smile.gif So meaning actual one (custom) will be drawing 180W onwards. Sapphire model comes with 2x PCI-E power connector.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 29 2017, 09:11 AM)
Gaming = Metro:LL@4K
Torture = Furmark

Of course 580 will use more power in Furmark since it have higher clock speed and higher voltage, i think that model they tested run at 1450mhz.

Yeah the price sucks, bought my 980 Ti 10 months ago for RM1.6k new.

I don't think Nvidia binned their chip anymore since Pascal and BIOS power limit is higher on some higher end card but most of them have similar power limit, with GPU Boost 3.0 and good cooling all of them will consume similar power at max boost speed.
That's the thing, reference 480 got nerfed to fix the "PCIE power issue". Use aftermarket 480 then power consumption gap will narrow or diminish.
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I read a comment before, the comment is against something bout a thread starter which stated that ati tflops > nvidia, its should better than nvidia => Game developer who didn't optimization is wrong.

The one who comment stated himself is one of big company game developer who if field about 20 years, admit ati is more future proof and futher tech than nvidia, but's the tflops better doesnt result better performance, due to many kind of problem, include coding which how to optimization performance of ati arch should be. Till today, they still in hard for optimization to get fully ati potential, but unfortunately, they still cannot handle well, even vulkan tech is still try getting optimization for gaming.

From analysis of several comment or review, i more to believe AMD got better arch and tech etc, hopefully their hardwork is granted, and make a real king which can compete Nvidia @@

Its kinda a sad that a gundam which more powerful but sucks OS installed XD

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 29 2017, 02:39 PM)
Its kinda a sad that a gundam which more powerful but sucks OS installed XD
Deswai Mobile Suit needs Alaya-Vijnana system!

Anyway yes, AMD tech is awesome.

Seriously, look at the APU - even by today's standard it has so many untapped potential.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 29 2017, 03:00 PM)
Deswai Mobile Suit needs Alaya-Vijnana system!

Anyway yes, AMD tech is awesome.

Seriously, look at the APU - even by today's standard it has so many untapped potential.
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But in the end, no matter how much potential gundam got, a lower performance mobile suit with supported by Dainslef kicked its ass XD
That's the cruel of reality =w= (lmiling to nvidia)

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 29 2017, 02:37 PM)
I think you're missing the point, RX 480 was designed to be under 150W whether reference or custom, it's just that some custom models draw a little more.

RX 580 on the other hand was designed to be at 180W right from the start, whether reference or custom. However for RX 580 there is no reference design. smile.gif So meaning actual one (custom) will be drawing 180W onwards. Sapphire model comes with 2x PCI-E power connector.
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Am i? Who cares what the card power limit is design for, what matters is the real power consumption no?
Can you try run 580 vs 480 at similar clock speed and voltage? hmm.gif

In the end RX-580(Polaris 20) is the same RX-480(Polaris 10) but with improved manufacturing process so it could reach higher clock speed.

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 29 2017, 02:39 PM)
I read a comment before, the comment is against something bout  a thread starter which stated that ati tflops > nvidia, its should better than nvidia => Game developer who didn't optimization is wrong.

The one who comment stated himself is one of big company game developer who if field about 20 years, admit ati is more future proof and futher tech than nvidia, but's the tflops better doesnt result better performance, due to many kind of problem, include coding which how to optimization performance of ati arch should be. Till today, they still in hard for optimization to get fully ati potential, but unfortunately, they still cannot handle well, even vulkan tech is still try getting optimization for gaming.

From analysis of several comment or review, i more to believe AMD got better arch and tech etc, hopefully their hardwork is granted, and make a real king which can compete Nvidia @@

Its kinda a sad that a gundam which more powerful but sucks OS installed XD
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I posted this awhile back, good video showing one of the reason why Nvidia card have stellar DX11 performance.



Another Nvidia secret sauce is Tiled Based Rendering which enabled since Maxwell, one of the reason why Kepler(700 series) got left behind in driver department.

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Am i? Who cares what the card power limit is design for, what matters is the real power consumption no?
Can you try run 580 vs 480 at similar clock speed and voltage?  hmm.gif

In the end RX-580(Polaris 20) is the same RX-480(Polaris 10) but with improved manufacturing process so it could reach higher clock speed.
I posted this awhile back, good video showing one of the reason why Nvidia card have stellar DX11 performance.



Another Nvidia secret sauce is Tiled Based Rendering which enabled since Maxwell, one of the reason why Kepler(700 series) got left behind in driver department.

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Both video is interesting in analysis @@ love it =w= cause i also learn a bit by a bit whats going on of gpu cpu arch.

If 1st video's statement is true, then can explain why nvidia and amd gpu got a gap under ryzen, but not intel =w=

2nd video analysis effieciency of nvdia compared to step by step of ati
Its remind me somekind like painting one layer by one layer =w=

I would more prefer to latter, feel not curi malas by doing well done, but confirm that its not efficiency for current generation.

For conclusion, its not about who's arch is more future proof, its just a matter of right decision of vision in right time under right support, will result achievement.

Same as in history, that r rumors that wright brothers is not the 1st who design the plane, but they r successful make a able-flight plane.

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