a user reported 3dmark11 score increase on rx480.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5b7mr...rk_i_saved_has/
AMD Radeon™ Discussion V15, Radeon Software 20.10.1
AMD Radeon™ Discussion V15, Radeon Software 20.10.1
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Nov 5 2016, 09:00 PM
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a user reported 3dmark11 score increase on rx480.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5b7mr...rk_i_saved_has/ |
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Apr 18 2017, 10:38 AM
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nitro+ limited edition specs leaked:
![]() 108mhz uplift over rx480 nitro+, not bad just for 14nm LPP refinement, maybe we could see vega clocked at at least 1500mhz on stock. |
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Aug 15 2017, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(kingform @ Aug 14 2017, 11:55 PM) it is not, for now, pcper have show that the rx vega perform better than vega FE in games. but then again, it is due to driver as more feature are enabled on rx vega release driver, vega FE will get the same driver anyway sooner. but too bad rx vega 64 only matching gtx1080 performance,but good to know that rx vega 56 having good value and good overclocker as well. cant wait to see how it perform on games that support fp16 features like the new wolfestein and far cry 5 ![]() ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by zerorating: Aug 15 2017, 02:23 AM |
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Mar 11 2025, 03:08 PM
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Mar 14 2025, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Mar 14 2025, 03:11 PM) Shame on amd reseller, they are making 5070ti much more appealing price lol. Now can see time to time just it sell 5070ti maybe 100+- markup from brand msrp. chill brah, if you open shopee you can see 9070xt for rm3700 already. the situation is improving.Instead u sell 9070xt selling 5k+ like tat gila babi |
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Mar 22 2025, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(Kaellis @ Mar 22 2025, 01:01 PM) just upgrade to RX 9070 XT from GTX 1070 for rx9000 series, undervolting means getting more performance out of the same power usage.My 650W PSU can't handle RX 9070 XT power requirements even with undervolt keep rebooting during heavy scene in game had to upgrade to 850W PSU ![]() Bought Sapphire RX 9070 XT Pure not bundle with PC to reduce power usage (or for your case peak/spike power), you need to reduce the power limit. |
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Mar 22 2025, 08:25 PM
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Mar 23 2025, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 22 2025, 09:50 PM) But why wanna kneecap perf of your GPU when its just a matter of insufficient PSU? Might as well save the money and get 9070 nonXT and still use the 650W to get the same perf. 9070xt chip is highly binned (full gpu cores), undervolted and power limited 9070xt will perform better than vanilla 9070.the main reason why 9070xt is power hog because amd want to have 9070xt as close to 5070ti as possible. everyone knows amd like to push more voltage on their xt and xtx model for better performance and long term stability. if the users want more efficiency, feel free to tune it as they provide the necessary tool in their driver software. This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 23 2025, 12:41 AM |
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Mar 23 2025, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 23 2025, 09:18 AM) Flawed logic. Undervolting, much like OCing is very dependent on lotsa factors inc silicon lottery, and it takes time to ensure full stability which can manifest 1-2months later when certain usage. You paid for the full perf, if you wanted lower perf just get a lower tier card which will save you money. No need to overspend. nothing wrong having extra headroom my dear, beside that human will think differently with time as you becoming more wiser. today you dont need the extra performance, tomorrow you might needing it. if psu kaput, for sure you will be upgrading to better unit or there is possibility getting better replacement unit after rma, getting psu that is handle power excursion well.also the higher performance card come with better cooler when it comes to msrp model like extra wider heatsink, more copper pipe, more fan that could give you better cooling headroom. also you will have more comppnent in the power delivery section of the cards, so you will have those component less strain giving more lifespan to the card if you choose to undervolt, underclock or power limiting the card. to the abang besar usa people,it is just 50usd different, it just a price of single day food spending, so buying higher tier card is no brainer. |
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Mar 24 2025, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 23 2025, 11:10 PM) Extra headroom is called OCing, not undervolting. If you have certain limitations, yeah sure. But if its just for an aged PSU, its not worth it. It might last this year but might no longer be okay next year and then the system starts crashing, who knows. im talking about headroom on getting higher tier card la (but with same gpu die)Anyhow 650W even brand new isnt what is reco by the AIB itself plus it needs 2 8pin PCIE. Most 650W uses a pigtail to double up which isnt really good for high powered GPU. ![]() Not using whats reco by the brands can also risk voiding warranty. Its not worth it when MSI A750BN is just RM 330. undervolting is modern day overclocking, except that you are putting a limiter in place, it could be power limiting or clock limiting. anyway the modern graphic card already have hard limit on the maximum voltage that the gpu can accept, so even if someone maxing out in overclocking tool, it most likely wont cause permanent damage to the gpu, shortening the lifespan yes, but not straight away fry out the gpu or even the memory module. 750w of a modern psu doesnt mean it will have the same quality as older day psu. a 650w psu can virtually the same components as its 850w brother, it just those psu having overload protection IC limits how much the power that the psu can supply, if the computer component are being power starved, it will turning off itself (likely to cause OS crashes of coz), not like it cause damage to the component, implying there is not short curcuit happened like 110/230v supply enter 12v, 5v, 3.3v rail or so. it is pretty much safe to run 100% load on those psu for long period of time because internally it was over-engineered. also you are suggesting a bronze 80+ certified psu, which mean we have some cut corner done on the psu design, personally i will take lower power older PSU with gold/platinum 80+ certificate than this. somemore its not full modular. also that doesnt mean every gold 80+ will be good either, i will not trust Helly Technogy design psu used in 1st player NGDP model or newer deepcool model just yet, the same can be said with great wall design either. do note that 5 years old psu doesnt necessary mean old. psu manufacturer are giving 8,10 years warranty for their gold/platinum 80+ certified psu, meaning it is expected to work optimally within their warranty period, it just doesnt have the new feature that atx3.1 psu had like 12hpwr/12v-2x6 connector and allowance of short duration power excursion. |
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Mar 25 2025, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Mar 24 2025, 11:13 PM) As I said above there is no guarantees to undervolting, as much like OCing, not everyone can achieve same level of very low usage. Some can do better than others. IMHO risking system stability just coz wanna skimp on upgrading PSU is not a good idea. Mind you while the risk of hardware failure is lower than OCing, you can kill GPU by going too low. majority of graphic card can undervolt, all of them you can underclock to save power. you still have opportunity to reuse that old psu as long as you know the limitation. it sound illogical that you must upgrade the psu when you bought it less than 5 years old. in year 2020 650w gold 80+ full modular model were cost like close to rm400, i bet the same design most probably it will cost at least rm500 today(but it will come with 100w limit uplift), though it doesnt make sense to sell it today as the money is on atx3.1 specification psu now. psu doesnt degrade as fast as you thought, previously i had 600w year 2011 xigmatek psu (known for bad ripple performance) that i did giveaway for free in carolsell. i had around 8 hours stress test before handover running unigine superposition and cinebench with 12700kf and 7800xt, no crashes whatsoever.And I think you have wrong impression about a quality of PSU. I would not trade a brandnew 750W Bronze PSU for a used GOLD/PLATINUM 650W unit as being used meant it has lost efficiency over each year of use, yes even a highly specced PSU will lose a percentage deswai I said even if its okay this year it may be below the operational threshold next year or so. It depends. Mind you its also uncommon to find locally a GOLD rated unit for such mid-low power rating to begin with or else the price just doesnt make sense as it likely will be as high as 750W bronze rated unit. While at it you also have the wrong impression than 80plus rating equals quality which isnt so. There are so many many techtubers & the cultist list that debunk such thinking as 80plus has nothing to do how good a PSU is about, your power rating is more important then the components & built quality. I trust that MSI Bronze PSU more than GOLD rated Giga GM firestarters. And then as for your bias against NGDP, the entire range have been reviewed and even wrung thru Cybernetics certifications by crmaris. Mind you, Cyber covers safety, noise as well as efficiency, arguably can be considered as PSU quality rating. OTOH Great Wall, while not outstanding, have recent years been solid maker, as their also OEM to popular brands like Corsair. I see your bias against Chinese makers is strong and there are merits to that but while there are plenty garbage brands & makes, there are those whom are solid despite not having a known brandname as they prefer to be OEM to Western brands. anyway i dont suggest anyone to go look for used psu in the used market for the new hardware, just used your old hardware implying that you hardly over utilized those hardware. aged/broken capacitors reduced available electric charges to its consumer, it is unlikely to kill the components unless there is short circuit happen. it is really easy for modern psu to get 80+ gold rating by pick and match quality components. if a psu cant get that gold rating,its mean one thing, the design utilize sub-par cheap components. a lower efficiency power supply create more heat that will degrade the component faster, there is no rocket science out of this. 80+ bronze certified last 15 years are very good because they are still putting quality component inside, getting gold 80+ certificate is rarity at that time for mainstream model, only expensive design can achieve those. could we guarantee that the current bronze 80+ psu are more reliable compared to the old design? anyway we didnt hear any news out those gigabyte explosion issue after they lowered down their OPP value. yes chinese components give better specification at lower price, but does it meant the performance remains for long period of time? thats is not something that certification body could guarantee even with all their accelerated test, we will only get the idea once those components has been on the field (hand of consumer) for long period of time. have we see reputable taiwan psu designer like seasonic, hec, fsp, superflower,cwt use chinese capacitors largely now? doesn't they want to be see as companies that give alot of value to their consumer? do recall that the explosive GP-P750GM and GP-P850GM are having tons of chinese component inside and its designed by china company (MEIC). also that psu were been given 'A' result by cybernetics according to hwbusters. This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 25 2025, 06:36 AM |
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Mar 26 2025, 11:44 PM
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did asrock malaysia revised their rx9070 card msrp? so they are attempting to price competitive with the like of colorful and palit? ![]() price from brightstar website, though it wont matter much at the moment since the card out of stock everywhere arslow liked this post
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Mar 27 2025, 02:01 PM
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Apr 2 2025, 04:12 PM
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Apr 12 2025, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 12 2025, 11:23 PM) rm3499, dunno msrp or not because brightstar list it rm3299, but no point if i cant buy from them. there are shops selling acer nitro 9070xt oc at rm3999,rm4099. they have multiple unit of it, no need bundle. i think give another month,then the availability will be better. edited: sorry correction, brightstar list it rm3499 now. so yeah msrp (with usual distributor mark up) This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 13 2025, 12:00 AM |
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 13 2025, 12:15 PM) Good price. Thats distro retail price for this model altho not the MSRP so you didnt get scalp then. But if Challenger model isnt coming ever its likely distros here will just be selling higher tier version only and no MSRP models. This is whats happening in USA. naahhh challenger cooling setup probably not good enough to cool down 300w card in some of the case(like extremely hot and humid country), beside that asrock is 2nd tier amd partner, they cant produce much SKUs out of it. even amd canned out their reference design card because it cant be made cheap enough, cooling down 9070xt at minimal cost are hard.also asrock dont want to be seen as asus budget sub-brand anymore, they rather lose profit margin than keep making product with tons of cutting corners. |
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Apr 13 2025, 05:59 PM) MSRP cards has always been about just enuff to keep it from cooking off, typically dual fan versions. However 9070XT seems to be a very hot card with hotspot & mem temps running 80+C even for the 3 fan chunky models. memory being hot are not much a concern, been hearing that for many years already especially during early days of gddr6x.![]() As for no longer doing MSRP models and just coming out higher end versions, isnt just Asrock but many other AIBS too. HUB, Linus, GN has mentioned in their videos, just lazy to find and put up here. So its not just an Asrock thing but shortage of GPU from AMD so their forcing customer to pay for higher end models if you want a 9070XT. if it become too hot like 105c or maybe 110c, the graphic card will throttle the memory speed by itself or at worst case shut itself down, but how many time you hear that behavior occurred? anyway if you worry about it too much, just make the fan run faster, but endure the louder noise la. |
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