Which 480 8GB? Lousy cooler or good one?

580 is most likely like what the 390 did to the 290. Better BIOS, better memory chip, tighter memory timing, slightly lower power consumption(or higher depend on BIOS).
If you're going to keep it for many years i suggest grab the 8GB model.

Wait for user review if you that slightly more performance really matters to you.
What about next year? or year after that?

RX580 just 5% performance incease than rx480... tdp higher and performance/watt increase, i thought can be better of tdp due to better vrm or power design? @@

Price is cheaper usd10 than previous lolz... Where's vega= =

Asus Strix RX580 8gb = RM1699 lol that price   

Price drop a bit spotted, RX480 nitro + 8gb from 1369 ->1300, RX470 nitro + 8gb now only 1100 (in lazada)

RX 580 is better than R9 390x a bit (within 5%), TDP should better.

Improvement from RX480 to RX580, mainly new pcb design with better VRM and hsf, solve single monitor power usage issue of RX480.
But get only 5-10% improvement than RX480 by more 30% power consumption...

RX580 with newer power design and better cooling, temps higher than rx480 about 10~15%.
You can flash rx480 to get rx580 performance,but be careful with old power design and may get higher temp.
I'm done calculation according review, performance of 1080p should around this.

Average fps performance based on Sapphire Nitro+ factory boost 8gb ver at gaming 1080p
(sure u can oc better clocks, if u get lucky, even RX470 can oc till 1350mhz, as well as rx480 can oc to 1450mhz, just rx580 is hard to get 1500mhz due to unstable)

RM1550 RX580 1450mhz = 100%
RM1310 RX480 1342mhz =  93%
RM1370 RX570 1340mhz =  92.5% ?
RM1100 RX470 1260mhz =  89%

If u want to save more budget, go for 4gb model, can save back bout RM150~200, cause current game under 1080p rarely consume more than 3.5gb vram.
If ask for better future with 8gb vram, seems its will harder to get 60fps at highest setting after 2~3 years, personally thinks is kinda useless.
If want gaming 1440p, sure 8gb vram is da best~ but almost current game, rx580 range is hard to handle 60fps at 1440p ...

If performance/RM, can consider old time Sapphire Nitro Fury Tri-X, just RM1550 same price with RX580, but better performance than RX580, especially at 1440p ~
But roughly RM1600 for fury or rx580, better i go off with an used unit of GTX1070 even there r some new unit of GTX1070, just price at RM1700...

Still, best value will go to RX470 4gb @@ Get it below RM1k and gaming almost smoothly in 1080p.
Sure, if u possible get a used RX480 8gb below  RM1100, its a sweet point.

Should not much different, cause power is more to gpu @@ same as u get 32gb or 16gb in ur pc rig, get very very minimal power consume.

But if u want to 1440p gaming and dun mind game not runs max setting, just stick to 8gb vram.

Even 20%, but just for 5% performace, make me hold back... I thought if pricing okay or better performance, i will get one for my ryzen rig, really itchy to build it up =w=

But now .... just =x=.... i just see got any nice price used rx480 or waiting for vega, or hope rx 470/ 480 drop more? XD

Why not make order through lazada (there are dotatech) or garage sales distributer? If dun mind pay more 3%, lelong as well.

Etechpc XD i just get a asrock taichi from there last two weeks. Hope they wont shut down suddenly as the boss before... Will be annoying when RMA some stuff @@

Vega, still unconfirm, if amd really release for compete gtx 1080, the price may below than gtx1080? just top up to around rm2k?
If as rumor, there's r few version of vega, it should be nice if got an option near gtx1070 price range.

If possible, i want get newer pcb design RX580, but price... Top up more RM200~300, can get a use gtx1070 under warranty or maybe new gtx1070 @@

new pcb, newer vvrm, better cooling, and 8+6pin power connector? XD
I had watch youtube which breakdown taichi, the vrm design and component model is quiet 1 of best higher end x370.
As audio part, asrock also done a well job as well, its worth to get it if willing to pay for better X370.

Asus got a nearly same vrm as well, but i didnt check its breakdown, and i dont really like asus product, from my past experience.

MSI X370 titanium is using the vrm which u can find even at B350 mobo...

Becareful asrock mid end x370 board also mix with average vrm components, some using niko-sem and some using sinopower

On paper,
Asrock gaming k4/sli X370 mobo has 4X2+2x2 power phase, IR35201 as power phase controller. PZ0903BK as highside MOSFET, PK618BA as lowside MOSFET. 12k polymer solid Capacitor.

MSI krait X370 has 4x2+2 power phase,  RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.

MSI tomahawk B350 has 4+2 power phase,  RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.

MSI carbon pro B350  has 4x2+2 power phase,  RT8894A as power phase controller. PK616BA as highside MOSFET, PK632BA as lowside MOSFET.
In comparison,
IR35201 which commonly found in top tier mobo is greater controller than RT8894A .

PZ0903BK is newer gen, there's no datasheet online yet, so is hard comparable to PK616BA.

PK618BA is 5.5 mΩ 59A and PK632BA is 3.3mΩ 78A, both is same range MOSFET as their price is same range. PK632A should better than PK618BA due to higher amps?
Actually, ryzen draw only low power for SOC, commonly is enough for both, only APU need draw more due to iGPU usage.

Doubler of VRM is better for cooling and stability in theory, my opinion, asrock x370 k4 still better than msi carbon pro, even lower end of msi X370. MSI overpriced for above RM500 mobo...