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post Apr 29 2017, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 29 2017, 03:25 PM)
Am i? Who cares what the card power limit is design for, what matters is the real power consumption no?
Can you try run 580 vs 480 at similar clock speed and voltage?  hmm.gif

In the end RX-580(Polaris 20) is the same RX-480(Polaris 10) but with improved manufacturing process so it could reach higher clock speed.
Yes it really improved on clock speed but at the cost of power draw.

I already have RX 580 and have been using it for a week, I confirm the power draw is higher than the RX 480 (reference) that I used.

I look at my benchmarks, it is as what AMD mentioned - maximum 12% gain. That's just maximum, average is 5% - 10% gain which is very little for that added power draw.

Put it simple, RX 580 (only custom available) at around 180W power draw vs RX 480 (reference) that performs almost like the RX 580 but at less than 150W.

BUT realistically speaking, in the end not many people really care about power draw. Add 30W only even though on % looks big. smile.gif

So if you look at what you gained vs what you lose, the improvement isn't exactly impressive. If the there's performance gained without additional power draw, that'll be great.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 29 2017, 06:03 PM)
Yes it really improved on clock speed but at the cost of power draw.

I already have RX 580 and have been using it for a week, I confirm the power draw is higher than the RX 480 (reference) that I used.

I look at my benchmarks, it is as what AMD mentioned - maximum 12% gain. That's just maximum, average is 5% - 10% gain which is very little for that added power draw.

Put it simple, RX 580 (only custom available) at around 180W power draw vs RX 480 (reference) that performs almost like the RX 580 but at less than 150W.

BUT realistically speaking, in the end not many people really care about power draw. Add 30W only even though on % looks big. smile.gif

So if you look at what you gained vs what you lose, the improvement isn't exactly impressive. If the there's performance gained without additional power draw, that'll be great.
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Full load, 30w x24 x7 x52 = 262kW = 262 unit = RM 78/12 = RM 6.50 per month = ayam burger double tambah cheese
Actually is nothing big dfferent of burden for full load 365 days XD

Just because there is better efficiency of nvidia, that's why will feel dissapointed.
But as video befoe, nvidia done a really right decision of archive efficiency.@@
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post Apr 29 2017, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 29 2017, 09:21 PM)
Full load, 30w x24 x7 x52 = 262kW = 262 unit  = RM 78/12 = RM 6.50 per month = ayam burger double tambah cheese
Actually is nothing big dfferent of burden for full load 365 days XD

Just because there is better efficiency of nvidia, that's why will feel dissapointed.
But as video befoe, nvidia done a really right decision of archive efficiency.@@
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You mining coins? laugh.gif

I've used 150watts and 300watts card and my wallet barely feel anything when paying utility bill.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Apr 29 2017, 09:28 PM)
You mining coins? laugh.gif

I've used 150watts and 300watts card and my wallet barely feel anything when paying utility bill.
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No, no budget enough for mining XD
Just for example which worst situation lah =w=

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post Apr 29 2017, 10:15 PM

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Speculation news for Vega, if this is true, Vega not really impressive

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57313/amd-ra...080p/index.html

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QUOTE(llk @ Apr 29 2017, 10:15 PM)
Speculation news for Vega, if this is true, Vega not really impressive

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57313/amd-ra...080p/index.html
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based on data and not actual product review. biggrin.gif
speculation is for fun until actual product is out. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Apr 29 2017, 10:24 PM)
based on data and not actual product review.  biggrin.gif
speculation is for fun until actual product is out.  tongue.gif
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vega so slow adoi laugh.gif doh.gif my build already 6 months old and still yet doh.gif shakehead.gif
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post Apr 30 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Apr 29 2017, 10:15 PM)
Speculation news for Vega, if this is true, Vega not really impressive

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57313/amd-ra...080p/index.html
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Haha for me is ok
Haven update my gc yet
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 30 2017, 07:19 PM)
Haha for me is ok
Haven update my gc yet
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Haha then you just wait, news reported will be released in June
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post Apr 30 2017, 11:32 PM

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Calm you tits guys, Vega is imminent but i hope it will release as AMD want it and not crippled by GoFlo manufacturing process.

New video by NerdTechGasm about in-depth (pre)-review from Vega architecture revealed slides. Good video long video imo though i don't really understand some of it. laugh.gif

We already speculate some of it like tiled rendering, geomeotry throughput improvement but still interesting nonetheless.


I hope he stay making this type video instead of going "mainstream" for more clicks.
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New benchmark for you to play around

Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood benchmark:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/
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QUOTE(TristanX @ May 1 2017, 03:28 PM)
New benchmark for you to play around

Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood benchmark:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/
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post May 2 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ May 1 2017, 08:56 PM)
on my aging R290  biggrin.gif
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Eh, you not using CFX before?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ May 2 2017, 10:43 AM)
Eh, you not using CFX before?
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no mang, due to went to SG for work - i downsize my rig to MATX and WC my noobie rig. hence only WC my only R290.
+ a single 240mm rad won't be sufficient for CF 290 and a OC 4770k sweat.gif
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Waiting vega b4 i invest. When is vega expected to launch?
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QUOTE(demetry @ May 6 2017, 12:02 PM)
Waiting vega b4 i invest. When is vega expected to launch?
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QUOTE(sai86 @ May 2 2017, 10:51 PM)
no mang, due to went to SG for work - i downsize my rig to MATX and WC my noobie rig. hence only WC my only R290.
+ a single 240mm rad won't be sufficient for CF 290 and a OC 4770k  sweat.gif
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Awww mang laugh.gif doh.gif
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How does rx560 compare to 1050ti in terms of performance and price? Main game is rocket league =D

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QUOTE(Songchien @ May 11 2017, 02:56 AM)
How does rx560 compare to 1050ti in terms of performance and price? Main game is rocket league =D
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Performance wise 1050 Ti is still faster imo, if they price it similar or higher compare to RX460 then 1050 Ti will win price/performance too for around RM700-RM800.

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