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UPDATED] Intel Allegedly Playing Dirty To Undercut AMD’s Ryzen
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By Khalid Moammer
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Intel is allegedly back to playing dirty in a deliberate attempt to cut AMD and its Ryzen CPUs out of the market. Reports alleged that Intel PR is gearing up for a response to Ryzen. With some reports claiming that Intel personnel may have even approached some customers with “incentive rebates” and other special promotions to exclusively use Intel chips. In some cases allegedly urging them to make big buying decisions before they could evaluate competing AMD products.
Intel Allegedly Sent A “Call us before you write” Email To Some Of The Press Reviewing Ryzen
10 years later, it seems that the more things change the more they stay the same. If recent reports are to be believed, Intel may be dipping its hand back into its little box of tricks.
The embargo on Ryzen reviews is expected to end on March 2nd. That’s when independent reviews are expected to go live. One report claims that Intel PR has sent a “call us before you write” email to some of the press reviewing Ryzen chips.
Charlie Demerjian
Intel PR sent out a last-minute “call us before you write” email to most of the press, but not SemiAccurate, after hours last night. You could infer that they are suddenly really worried about something.
It’s not uncustomary for companies to reach out to the press when they’re in the process of reviewing a competing product. Usually to lay out their response or to announce price cuts. We have contacted a few members of the press and asked if they received an email from Intel that falls out side of the above context and all have so far denied receiving such an email.
[UPDATED – Feb 26 2017 7:16 PM ET]
The editors-in-chief of two of America’s top PC hardware and technology publications have confirmed to Wccftech that they have indeed been approached by Intel regarding upcoming Ryzen reviews. Although both said that it was business as usual. Affirming that Intel’s response following AMD’s Ryzen announcement was what they had expected it to be and nothing was particularly unusual about it.
[End of update]
Intel’s Unflattering History – This Is What AMD Fears It Will Have To Overcome With Ryzen
AMD’s fearful Intel will go back to its box of dirty tricks to undercut the company’s most competitive product in a decade, Ryzen. The company’s form 10-K filing revealed an unforgetful, cautious and apprehensive AMD that’s re-entering the market with eyes wide open
In the filing, the company goes into detail about the long and bitter rivalry between it and its much larger competitor over the years. It shined light on a systemic employment of underhanded and anti-competitive practices to muscle AMD out of the market. Citing several instances of well documented litigation on the international and local levels where Intel was accused of which Intel either lost outright or had to settle out of court.
2009 EU Decision – $1.4 Billion Dollar Fine For “Anti-Competitive” Practices
In addition to a number of investigations by international regulatory bodies that resulted in fines and/or other penalties. The last of which amounted to $1.4 billion dollars. Which Intel had to pay as recently as 2014. But, only after losing its final challenge to the decision which it dragged in EU courts for nearly a decade.
“The Commission demonstrated to the requisite legal standard that Intel attempted to conceal the anti-competitive nature of its practices and implemented a long term comprehensive strategy to foreclose AMD from the strategically most important sales channels,” the court said in a near 300-page decision.
The findings of the EU Commision’s investigation concluded that :
A full point by point list can be found on reuters.
Intel provided monetary incentives in the form of hidden rebates to Acer, Dell & HP on condition that they bought all, or almost all, their x86 CPUs from Intel for three years and none or, almost none, from AMD.
Intel provided hidden rebates to Lenovo on condition that it purchases its CPU needs for its notebook computers exclusively from Intel.
Intel made direct payments to a major retailer on condition it stocked only computers with its CPUs
Intel paid computer manufacturers to halt or delay the launch of AMD hardware, including Dell, Acer, Lenovo, and NEC.
AMD Ryzen Full 17 CPU Lineup Confirmed & Detailed - 8, 6 & 4 Cores Rated At 95W To 65W
US Federal Trade Commission – $1.25 Billion Settlement For “Unfair” & “Deceptive” Conduct
In 2010 Intel settled an investigation by the FTC for $1.25 billion paid to AMD.
Jon Leibowitz, Chairman of the FTC stated : “We believe Intel stepped well over the line of aggressive competition on the merits, and engaged in unfair, deceptive and anti-competitive conduct. The sum total of all this anti-competitive conduct unfairly prevented companies from competing, bolstered Intel’s monopoly, and harmed consumers by stunting innovation, diminishing quality, and keeping prices higher than they would otherwise be.”
The FTC’s findings :
The usual complaints we’ve seen from the EU. Intel rewarded OEMs to not use AMD’s processors through various means, such as volume discounts, withholding advertising & R&D money, and threatening OEMs with a low-priority during CPU shortages.
Intel reworked their compiler to put AMD CPUs at a disadvantage. For a time Intel’s compiler would not enable SSE/SSE2 codepaths on non-Intel CPUs, our assumption is that this is the specific complaint. To our knowledge this has been resolved for quite some time now.
Intel paid/coerced software and hardware vendors to not support or to limit their support for AMD CPUs. This includes having vendors label their wares as Intel compatible, but not AMD compatible.
False advertising. This includes hiding the compiler changes from developers, misrepresenting benchmark results (such as BAPCo Sysmark) that changed due to those compiler changes, and general misrepresentation of benchmarks as being “real world” when they are not.
These demonstrate only two recent examples of Intel getting reprimanded as a result of its underhanded tactics. The scale of Intel’s operations and the amount effort it put in to beating the market into submission goes further back than just a few years.
In the early 2000s when AMD’s Athlon 64 launched, which coincidentally was designed by Jim Keller the very same architect behind Ryzen, we saw Intel escalate its offense. Intel executives are on-record as referring to Dell as “the best friend money can buy”. As well as openly acknowledge the use of rebates dubbed MCP — Meet Comp Program — to muscle OEMs into not dealing with AMD. Extremetech’s Joel Hruska goes into a good amount of detail about how this scheme was orchestrated to ensure the demise of OEMS that rebelled against Intel.
Nvidia & AMD GPUs Benchmarked In DirectX 12 Forza Horizon 3 - A Frustratingly Demanding Game Even At 1080p
2017 And AMD’s Ryzen Launch – Is Intel Going Back To Its Not So Old Ways?
If there’s one thing the ecosystem has learned the hard way is that we desperately need a competitive AMD to keep Intel in check. Steadily rising CPU prices with lack of any significant performance increases over the past five years has only been the result of a complacent Intel and a non-competitive AMD.
After a lengthy absence AMD is finally back in the market with a product that appears to be truly competitive. Ryzen is set to take on Intel’s core i7 lineup by offering better or similar performance at every segment for half and in some cases even down to one third the price.
It has already declared its $499 Ryzen 7 1800X the fastest 8-core desktop CPU in the world and has demonstrated it outperforming Intel’s $1050 i7 6900K. It’s $399 Ryzen 7 1700X offers nearly the same performance for $100 less. Its third Ryzen 7 chip, the $329 1700, offers i7 5960X class performance at 1/3rd the price.
Suffice to say the Ryzen 7 lineup has dominated the Intel counterparts across price/performance charts on the desktop. In fact, the value proposition has been so attractive that it propelled Ryzen to the top of retailers’ best sellers lists. Just a few hours following their debut Ryzen CPUs became the best selling chips on Amazon and have run out of stock at several retailers.
The Ends May Justify The Means For Intel But Not For Anyone Else
This is what it all comes down to. A $1.4 or a 1.25 billion payment over a decade and a half is chump change for a multi-national conglomerate like Intel. Which generates ~$60 billion in yearly revenue and spends several billion on marketing alone in a given quarter. Because these market destructive practices are and can only be met with too little too late, from a purely economical perspective, Intel finds the results of its actions more advantageous than detrimental.
Cutting out the competition leads to market stagnation and higher prices. A concoction of circumstance that monopolies thrive in. But one where we, the consumers, and the market as whole suffer greatly. We always end up paying the price of a misbehaving monopoly.
Thankfully the market today is not the same as it was ten years ago. Tech companies are as independent as ever, the whole world is much more closely connected and we, the consumers are, better informed. My hope is that today’s Intel is one that will only look at its past action with sober thought. With the realization that its enormous pools of resources are better spent innovating and pushing the limits of technology. That today’s AMD is better equipped to shield itself from the aggression of a much bigger player if it ever comes back to that. My hope is that the history will only serve as a reminder to us and the entire ecosystem to stay vigilant. To not allow it to repeat itself.
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Author Photo
By Khalid Moammer
8 hours ago
TWEET SHARE
Intel is allegedly back to playing dirty in a deliberate attempt to cut AMD and its Ryzen CPUs out of the market. Reports alleged that Intel PR is gearing up for a response to Ryzen. With some reports claiming that Intel personnel may have even approached some customers with “incentive rebates” and other special promotions to exclusively use Intel chips. In some cases allegedly urging them to make big buying decisions before they could evaluate competing AMD products.
Intel Allegedly Sent A “Call us before you write” Email To Some Of The Press Reviewing Ryzen
10 years later, it seems that the more things change the more they stay the same. If recent reports are to be believed, Intel may be dipping its hand back into its little box of tricks.
The embargo on Ryzen reviews is expected to end on March 2nd. That’s when independent reviews are expected to go live. One report claims that Intel PR has sent a “call us before you write” email to some of the press reviewing Ryzen chips.
Charlie Demerjian
Intel PR sent out a last-minute “call us before you write” email to most of the press, but not SemiAccurate, after hours last night. You could infer that they are suddenly really worried about something.
It’s not uncustomary for companies to reach out to the press when they’re in the process of reviewing a competing product. Usually to lay out their response or to announce price cuts. We have contacted a few members of the press and asked if they received an email from Intel that falls out side of the above context and all have so far denied receiving such an email.
[UPDATED – Feb 26 2017 7:16 PM ET]
The editors-in-chief of two of America’s top PC hardware and technology publications have confirmed to Wccftech that they have indeed been approached by Intel regarding upcoming Ryzen reviews. Although both said that it was business as usual. Affirming that Intel’s response following AMD’s Ryzen announcement was what they had expected it to be and nothing was particularly unusual about it.
[End of update]
Intel’s Unflattering History – This Is What AMD Fears It Will Have To Overcome With Ryzen
AMD’s fearful Intel will go back to its box of dirty tricks to undercut the company’s most competitive product in a decade, Ryzen. The company’s form 10-K filing revealed an unforgetful, cautious and apprehensive AMD that’s re-entering the market with eyes wide open
In the filing, the company goes into detail about the long and bitter rivalry between it and its much larger competitor over the years. It shined light on a systemic employment of underhanded and anti-competitive practices to muscle AMD out of the market. Citing several instances of well documented litigation on the international and local levels where Intel was accused of which Intel either lost outright or had to settle out of court.
2009 EU Decision – $1.4 Billion Dollar Fine For “Anti-Competitive” Practices
In addition to a number of investigations by international regulatory bodies that resulted in fines and/or other penalties. The last of which amounted to $1.4 billion dollars. Which Intel had to pay as recently as 2014. But, only after losing its final challenge to the decision which it dragged in EU courts for nearly a decade.
“The Commission demonstrated to the requisite legal standard that Intel attempted to conceal the anti-competitive nature of its practices and implemented a long term comprehensive strategy to foreclose AMD from the strategically most important sales channels,” the court said in a near 300-page decision.
The findings of the EU Commision’s investigation concluded that :
A full point by point list can be found on reuters.
Intel provided monetary incentives in the form of hidden rebates to Acer, Dell & HP on condition that they bought all, or almost all, their x86 CPUs from Intel for three years and none or, almost none, from AMD.
Intel provided hidden rebates to Lenovo on condition that it purchases its CPU needs for its notebook computers exclusively from Intel.
Intel made direct payments to a major retailer on condition it stocked only computers with its CPUs
Intel paid computer manufacturers to halt or delay the launch of AMD hardware, including Dell, Acer, Lenovo, and NEC.
AMD Ryzen Full 17 CPU Lineup Confirmed & Detailed - 8, 6 & 4 Cores Rated At 95W To 65W
US Federal Trade Commission – $1.25 Billion Settlement For “Unfair” & “Deceptive” Conduct
In 2010 Intel settled an investigation by the FTC for $1.25 billion paid to AMD.
Jon Leibowitz, Chairman of the FTC stated : “We believe Intel stepped well over the line of aggressive competition on the merits, and engaged in unfair, deceptive and anti-competitive conduct. The sum total of all this anti-competitive conduct unfairly prevented companies from competing, bolstered Intel’s monopoly, and harmed consumers by stunting innovation, diminishing quality, and keeping prices higher than they would otherwise be.”
The FTC’s findings :
The usual complaints we’ve seen from the EU. Intel rewarded OEMs to not use AMD’s processors through various means, such as volume discounts, withholding advertising & R&D money, and threatening OEMs with a low-priority during CPU shortages.
Intel reworked their compiler to put AMD CPUs at a disadvantage. For a time Intel’s compiler would not enable SSE/SSE2 codepaths on non-Intel CPUs, our assumption is that this is the specific complaint. To our knowledge this has been resolved for quite some time now.
Intel paid/coerced software and hardware vendors to not support or to limit their support for AMD CPUs. This includes having vendors label their wares as Intel compatible, but not AMD compatible.
False advertising. This includes hiding the compiler changes from developers, misrepresenting benchmark results (such as BAPCo Sysmark) that changed due to those compiler changes, and general misrepresentation of benchmarks as being “real world” when they are not.
These demonstrate only two recent examples of Intel getting reprimanded as a result of its underhanded tactics. The scale of Intel’s operations and the amount effort it put in to beating the market into submission goes further back than just a few years.
In the early 2000s when AMD’s Athlon 64 launched, which coincidentally was designed by Jim Keller the very same architect behind Ryzen, we saw Intel escalate its offense. Intel executives are on-record as referring to Dell as “the best friend money can buy”. As well as openly acknowledge the use of rebates dubbed MCP — Meet Comp Program — to muscle OEMs into not dealing with AMD. Extremetech’s Joel Hruska goes into a good amount of detail about how this scheme was orchestrated to ensure the demise of OEMS that rebelled against Intel.
Nvidia & AMD GPUs Benchmarked In DirectX 12 Forza Horizon 3 - A Frustratingly Demanding Game Even At 1080p
2017 And AMD’s Ryzen Launch – Is Intel Going Back To Its Not So Old Ways?
If there’s one thing the ecosystem has learned the hard way is that we desperately need a competitive AMD to keep Intel in check. Steadily rising CPU prices with lack of any significant performance increases over the past five years has only been the result of a complacent Intel and a non-competitive AMD.
After a lengthy absence AMD is finally back in the market with a product that appears to be truly competitive. Ryzen is set to take on Intel’s core i7 lineup by offering better or similar performance at every segment for half and in some cases even down to one third the price.
It has already declared its $499 Ryzen 7 1800X the fastest 8-core desktop CPU in the world and has demonstrated it outperforming Intel’s $1050 i7 6900K. It’s $399 Ryzen 7 1700X offers nearly the same performance for $100 less. Its third Ryzen 7 chip, the $329 1700, offers i7 5960X class performance at 1/3rd the price.
Suffice to say the Ryzen 7 lineup has dominated the Intel counterparts across price/performance charts on the desktop. In fact, the value proposition has been so attractive that it propelled Ryzen to the top of retailers’ best sellers lists. Just a few hours following their debut Ryzen CPUs became the best selling chips on Amazon and have run out of stock at several retailers.
The Ends May Justify The Means For Intel But Not For Anyone Else
This is what it all comes down to. A $1.4 or a 1.25 billion payment over a decade and a half is chump change for a multi-national conglomerate like Intel. Which generates ~$60 billion in yearly revenue and spends several billion on marketing alone in a given quarter. Because these market destructive practices are and can only be met with too little too late, from a purely economical perspective, Intel finds the results of its actions more advantageous than detrimental.
Cutting out the competition leads to market stagnation and higher prices. A concoction of circumstance that monopolies thrive in. But one where we, the consumers, and the market as whole suffer greatly. We always end up paying the price of a misbehaving monopoly.
Thankfully the market today is not the same as it was ten years ago. Tech companies are as independent as ever, the whole world is much more closely connected and we, the consumers are, better informed. My hope is that today’s Intel is one that will only look at its past action with sober thought. With the realization that its enormous pools of resources are better spent innovating and pushing the limits of technology. That today’s AMD is better equipped to shield itself from the aggression of a much bigger player if it ever comes back to that. My hope is that the history will only serve as a reminder to us and the entire ecosystem to stay vigilant. To not allow it to repeat itself.
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Feb 25, 2017 2107 1491
AMD Ryzen Dominates Intel’s Kaby Lake & Skylake In Performance/Price Charts – 1800X, 1700/X & 1600X Offer Unmatched Value
Feb 25, 2017 376 284
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Feb 25, 2017 1550 515
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Vs Intel Core i7 6900K Gaming Performance Benchmarked
Feb 24, 2017 5702 1050
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Overclocked To 4GHz On All 8 Cores – Provides 1800X+ Performance With Decent Motherboards & Cooling
Feb 23, 2017 1099 628
AMD Ryzen 1700X Benchmarked, Beats Kaby Lake In IPC / Single-threaded Performance
Feb 23, 2017 682 551
TRENDING STORIES
[UPDATED] Intel Allegedly Playing Dirty To Undercut AMD’s Ryzen
Rumor: Intel Could Commercialize A 12 Core/ 24 Thread Skylake-X CPU To Fight Ryzen – Reports Italian Publication
Intel Kaby Lake and Skylake Processors Get Massive Price Cuts By Retailers Prior To AMD Ryzen Launch – Core i7 7700K Up For $299, Core i5 7600K For $199, Core i5 6600K For $179
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Wins Big Lead vs i7 6900K In More Gaming Benchmarks
AMD Ryzen 8 Core, 6 Core and 4 Core Overclock Frequencies Revealed – Scan Offers New Ryzen Overclocked Bundles, Up To 4.2 GHz Clocks
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