Don't have to. You're just going from R9 290 to R9 280X.

Excellent choice. Among the 3 models (I have all 3 in the lab) the 1700 is my favorite.

It pretty much is.

My R9 390 performs greater than my RX 470, so an RX 480 is around R9 390 performance.

Since RX 580 is basically RX 480 with higher clocks, the performance should be around (I reckon lower) when compared to R9 390X.

I think wait to see how it turn out http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57196/amd-ra...-580/index.html

With RX 580, you're better off wait for stock-clearance RX 480 it seems.

For me I only liked RX 480 when it was launched, it was then overtaken by the GTX 1060 in every way, then the RX 470 alone could come really close to it and costs far less.

New architecture, basically higher performance at lower power draw.

If I'm not mistaken RX 480 is replaces R9 380X.

No news of any 590.

Should be about 20% more power, going from the rated 150W to around 180W.

Not a good move I find.

I straight pump 1.45vcore for Ryzen, after that of course you have to tune down la.

I donno how the fella always make such long videos, I like my videos short and sweet.

But yeah RX 550 and RX 560 should be the main sellers.

RX 580 sucks.

No it isn't. It just exchange blows here and there so it's not a "more guarantee 1080p gaming" when compared to GTX 1060.

1. GTX 1070 available for as low as RM 2k while GTX 1060 6GB is around 1.2K range.
*RX 580 8GB price varies from around RM 1.3k to 1,5xx*

2. GTX 1060 doesn't even draw 150w power.

If it's a Polaris Refresh, it should be better but not worse. Now the power draw to performance ratio is not as good as before.

Nvidia actually produces new technology too, that's why the Pascals are doing so well when compared to Maxwell.

AMD Polaris is good actually, when it was launched the RX 480 was great but it was short-lived as GTX 1060 came in.

AMD introduces technology, like their APU were great stuff but it was really niche, and their pricing sucks. After that the APU and the AMD FX range processor (Bulldozer) were stuck for a really long time.

Polaris was good, the Polaris refresh (or refined) isn't exactly refined. Now we'll have to see what they produce for Vega.

You can't market when you don't have new products.

AMD didn't have many new revolutionary things. The HD 7xxx series was good but mostly used by miners, then HD 2xx and 3xx were rehash after rehash.

Fury line-up was really nice but AMD failed at the pricing part.

Polaris was nice but short-lived. Polaris Refresh need not elaborate further la.

As for Processor - APU, I really love that tech but pricing sucks and no one really picked it up. It's technology packed but in this aspect, I guess can say they failed at marketing.

Nvidia on the other hand also rehashed technology before, I bashed them before too from 8xxx series to 9000 series rehash, then the GT series weren't doing well for some time too. AMD graphics was the better choice until Max well if I'm not mistaken. Maxwell and Pascal were the real game changers for Nvidia.

Another thing to note is that Nvidia can focus on GPU alone but AMD actually focusing on CPU and GPU. So can say it's AMD vs Intel + Nvidia.

Eh, less than 1 year old la. Polaris was released after mid of last year.

Improvement in speed is good but 10% is too little for the power draw increase.

RX 580 has no reference model, however I've used RX 480 reference model.

Power draw really is estimated to be around 20% increase.

I think you're missing the point, RX 480 was designed to be under 150W whether reference or custom, it's just that some custom models draw a little more.

RX 580 on the other hand was designed to be at 180W right from the start, whether reference or custom. However for RX 580 there is no reference design. So meaning actual one (custom) will be drawing 180W onwards. Sapphire model comes with 2x PCI-E power connector.

Deswai Mobile Suit needs Alaya-Vijnana system!

Anyway yes, AMD tech is awesome.

Seriously, look at the APU - even by today's standard it has so many untapped potential.

Yes it really improved on clock speed but at the cost of power draw.

I already have RX 580 and have been using it for a week, I confirm the power draw is higher than the RX 480 (reference) that I used.

I look at my benchmarks, it is as what AMD mentioned - maximum 12% gain. That's just maximum, average is 5% - 10% gain which is very little for that added power draw.

Put it simple, RX 580 (only custom available) at around 180W power draw vs RX 480 (reference) that performs almost like the RX 580 but at less than 150W.

BUT realistically speaking, in the end not many people really care about power draw. Add 30W only even though on % looks big.

So if you look at what you gained vs what you lose, the improvement isn't exactly impressive. If the there's performance gained without additional power draw, that'll be great.

Ignore those rumours.

If I get a copy I guarantee will try mining.

ahem ahem .........

HIS RX VEGA 64 also RM 3099.