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I'd say its a tad disappointing that its not able to beat 980ti @ 1440p. With the improvement with respect to the R9 290X, thats huge. But as a competitor to big maxwell, nope. Not helped by gameworks introduction, saving face really. Hope for newer drivers, not betas, couldnt come faster.

nvidia has licked this round. We'll see what happens @ 14/16nm.

If anything at all, this card will be paving way for the new HBM, kudos to AMD for that. Lets see if there will be an OC version of it and how far the AIB partners push it.

No wonder Lisa Su said that the dual GPU Fury is going to be the fastest card ever. With that said, I'm looking forward for Nano now.

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hmhmm troll.. AMD R9 Fury X still Early stage.. Driver not Fully optimize...

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Here Crossfire AMD R9 Fury X vs Titan X SLI



Lick ? haha sure watever.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jun 24 2015, 10:44 PM)
AMD what a disappointment!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not really a disappointment - just it doesn't really give the wow factor. tongue.gif

It's a very good and competitive card, but does it really gives the knockout punch? Not quite. tongue.gif

Still, this card holds a lot of potential in the future. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 24 2015, 10:42 PM)
I'd say its a tad disappointing that its not able to beat 980ti @ 1440p. With the improvement with respect to the R9 290X, thats huge. But as a competitor to big maxwell, nope. Not helped by gameworks introduction, saving face really. Hope for newer drivers, not betas, couldnt come faster.

nvidia has licked this round. We'll see what happens @ 14/16nm.

If anything at all, this card will be paving way for the new HBM, kudos to AMD for that. Lets see if there will be an OC version of it and how far the AIB partners push it.

No wonder Lisa Su said that the dual GPU Fury is going to be the fastest card ever. With that said, I'm looking forward for Nano now.
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Licked? shocking.gif

BTW, Fury X is going to be ref only, just like the Titan X. tongue.gif

Still, I want to see how AMD is going to compete with Intel in the CPU front. Will be quite interesting to see how Zen fares against Broadwell/Skylake... hmm.gif
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Come on come on,release the Nano. laugh.gif
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What's the estimated price of the nano when it reach here? hmm.gif
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What's the estimated price of the nano when it reach here? hmm.gif
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USD449? *

*Pricing is completely conjured up from my mind - there is no credibility to the pricing. tongue.gif

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Do anyone Know who else bought R9 Fury X ? wonder who bought 3 Fury X in malaysia..
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 24 2015, 10:56 PM)
Come on come on,release the Nano. laugh.gif
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Nano should be around after summer, I'm guessing around August.

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What's the estimated price of the nano when it reach here? hmm.gif
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I'm guessing it might be similarly priced to the R9 390X
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No brand loyalty here. Been in the green camp since Riva TNT day. I even downgraded from i7 4790K / GTX 970 to A10-7850K with iGPU for my primary desktop early this year just to try out new technologies by AMD. Plus I only do gaming occasionally. Possibly mesmerized by the potential and innovation even though the result is not quite there.

Although I think most people that can afford high-end gears won't pay too much attention to price to performance ratio anyway. They tend to spend money on the most current, hottest toy on the market simply because they can afford to.
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 24 2015, 11:02 PM)
Nano should be around after summer, I'm guessing around August.
I'm guessing it might be similarly priced to the R9 390X
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If priced similarly to the 390X,then the 390X will get price cut i guess.Around RM15xx-16xx should be a good price for it,with the Nano taking over RM18xx-20xx.
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The backplate was for decoration. No pads
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N hmm marketing ad from amd
Was this meant for tx??
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 24 2015, 11:14 PM)
The backplate was for decoration. No pads
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N hmm marketing ad from amd
Was this meant for tx??
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Interesting fury x hans the sane issue as 285. Using mantle performance drop in bf4.


Hmm users in malaysia. Try not to let that gpu temp hit 70. Ure water temp will hit 60 which is the max for most pumps.

Btw alot of stuff quoting from ocn

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 24 2015, 11:14 PM)
The backplate was for decoration. No pads
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N hmm marketing ad from amd
Was this meant for tx??
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wouldnt there be nothing for the backplate to dissipate heat from? hmm.gif

most of the time backplate has thermal pads for the RAM modules IINM
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AMD Zen will be another hype again...
But, this time, like usual, don't give high-hope to it.
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Jun 25 2015, 12:11 AM)
AMD Zen will be another hype again...
But, this time, like usual, don't give high-hope to it.
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Hopefully Zen will not be a disappointment - if it's a disappointment then Intel will have absolutely no incentive to improve their chips... sweat.gif

I miss the days where AMD and Intel were actively competing each other for better products - still remember where you can get massive improvements in performance for each leap in generation? sad.gif

If AMD went down under and we get an Intel/nVidia monopoly things are not going to bode well, especially for the PC gaming community. sad.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 25 2015, 12:11 AM)
wouldnt there be nothing for the backplate to dissipate heat from? hmm.gif

most of the time backplate has thermal pads for the RAM modules IINM
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This time the problem aren't RAM module, but the VRM.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1561860/various...0#post_24083978
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 25 2015, 12:32 AM)
This time the problem aren't RAM module, but the VRM.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1561860/various...0#post_24083978
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The cooler didn't cool the VRMs? shocking.gif
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The cooler didn't cool the VRMs? shocking.gif
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No idea, but to be fair may be isolated case or the particularly guy didn't reassemble them back well enough.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/937-6/rade...erclocking.html

Also I reckon such high temperature will only occur on stress test with power virus.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ra...y-x,4196-8.html

Let's wait and see if there's any further story on that.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 25 2015, 12:32 AM)
This time the problem aren't RAM module, but the VRM.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1561860/various...0#post_24083978
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yeah but for Fury X, wouldnt the VRAM module be on the die itself? i mean, non HBM cards have their VRAM module soldered on back of PCB, which is why the backplate helps

but theres no back VRAM module from the pictures ive seen, so backplate isnt necessary
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 25 2015, 01:58 AM)
yeah but for Fury X, wouldnt the VRAM module be on the die itself? i mean, non HBM cards have their VRAM module soldered on back of PCB, which is why the backplate helps

but theres no back VRAM module from the pictures ive seen, so backplate isnt necessary
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Stick some thermal padding at the high heat zone at the back and in contact with backplate (metal?) will help a little than none I think? hmm.gif

Putting a backplate on it without padding might actually entrap a layer of air in between and worsen the cooling of the VRM?
https://cms-images.idgesg.net/images/articl...592012-orig.jpg

So its either put it with thermal pad or else better remove it.

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:03 AM)
Stick some thermal padding at the high heat zone at the back and in contact with backplate (metal?) will help a little than none I think? hmm.gif 

Putting a backplate on it without padding might actually entrap a layer of air in between and worsen the cooling of the VRM?
https://cms-images.idgesg.net/images/articl...592012-orig.jpg

So its either put it with thermal pad or else better remove it.
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well they are metal after all, might be heat conductive hmm.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 25 2015, 02:08 AM)
well they are metal after all, might be heat conductive hmm.gif
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I don't think they dare to directly in contact the metal plate with the PCB, later short circuit with the components.

If not in contact, there gonna be air gaps in between, and we all know how worse air is as a heat conductor. Worse it is not perforated.
http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheo...strony_down.jpg

Better remove it or add non-conductive thermal pad to it.

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If the card is cool i dont see the issue of needing thermal pads or anything being stuck to the backplate..

Card hardly goes above 50 degrees. Pretty sure AMD that has the expertise to design such a complex chip would know whether or not to add thermal pads to the back plate
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 25 2015, 03:04 AM)
If the card is cool i dont see the issue of needing thermal pads or anything being stuck to the backplate..

Card hardly goes above 50 degrees. Pretty sure AMD that has the expertise to design such a complex chip would know whether or not to add thermal pads to the back plate
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The chip itself is dead cool, the issue now is the VRM aren't (check my post 24th). Kind of remind me on the 290 + kraken g10 saga last time.

But again, we no idea if that is isolated case, user tampering or only occur under extreme stress test with power virus, so let's wait and see how the story develop.

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Jun 25 2015, 12:11 AM)
AMD Zen will be another hype again...
But, this time, like usual, don't give high-hope to it.
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Zen is not hyped. It's a brand new CPU architecture. The fanboys is strong in this one, this is AMD Radeon discussion not AMD CPU discussion.


@S4PH On the subject, I already told in previous thread that the performance won't be that good, and I was right. Just increasing the stream processor count and not increasing the front end like geometry engine, ACE it not a good idea. AMD doesn't learn from nvidia at all.
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 25 2015, 03:04 AM)
If the card is cool i dont see the issue of needing thermal pads or anything being stuck to the backplate..

Card hardly goes above 50 degrees. Pretty sure AMD that has the expertise to design such a complex chip would know whether or not to add thermal pads to the back plate
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even though the VRMs already cool without the thermal pad, but im pretty sure with thermal pads, the temp will be cooler and better.. its cheap and simple, quite disappointing AMD did not put the thermal pads themselves..
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I don't think AMD failed to deliver, they actually brave enough to invest on HBM and get it into market first. That alone is a credit. Just like they did with GDDR5. Only this time their involvement in HBM is more direct.

Despite alot of problem in manufacturing the chip, they manage to at least match the 980Ti performance, and the best part their pricing is still lower than 980Ti.

Maybe our expectation is too high on AMD for this card to beat the Titan X. For sure nvidia Pascal is more mature product when it is release, but AMD will have the upper hand in terms of experience and familiarities with HBM technology.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 24 2015, 11:19 PM)
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Interesting fury x hans the sane issue as 285. Using mantle performance drop in bf4.
Hmm users in malaysia. Try not to let that gpu temp hit 70. Ure water temp will hit 60 which is the max for most pumps.

Btw alot of stuff quoting from ocn
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lol what how come its tottaly different from what amd benchmark themselves

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I'm so glad I followed your rant about the card and be skeptic about it . My next card going to be 980 ti for sure
To thought that watercooling would actually benefit fury x in terms of overclocking but mere 5% increase doh.gif
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Now its up to the Fury Pro(non-X) to try and deliver(although I don't think they can catch up to the FuryX's level). But it is interesting to know what the AiB partners can conjure up with.

Although the Fury X seems like a miss and hit, I do think as the driver comes into a more mature state, the performance will stabilise. After all, there are too much variance between review sites to be 100% conclusive.


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Currently having very bad experience with Sapphire R9 3xx series. sad.gif

The screen just flickers away, often crash and unable to do anything. NOTE : That's on the same system that's able to run GTX 980 Ti and R9 295X2.

I got fed up, did a fresh installation on different SSD, change mobo, RAM, processor, PSU, SATA cables whatever you can think off. Still the same thing.

Windows is 8.1 of course, driver is 15.6 as on the site. Nope, didn't work. 15.5, 15.4, 14.12 also doesn't work.

Now I'm just waiting for PowerColor units to come in and see if it's the brand issue or the Radeon chip itself.

And so far I have problem with R9 390X and R9 390 Nitro from Sapphire. Fury? Well, I haven't plug it in.
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There's another reviewer in youtube that faced even worse problem than your 390x...his review unit can't display anything at all...
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I can view BIOS / POST.
I can view Windows load.
The most I can reach is DESKTOP.
In some cases, the DESKTOP then after a while - CRASH.

It was miraculous that I managed to get some benchies done but even during that session I couldn't get it to go 4K no matter what.

Now I'm trying to get to benchies again, some can't do. Ridiculous so far.

It just doesn't make sense, a rig that can run GTX 980 Ti and R9 295X2 and never had any problem.

Changed PSU, even now my last ditch effort - raise the wattage to 850W but to no avail.

OK now I go try Fury X.
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I can view BIOS / POST.
I can view Windows load.
The most I can reach is DESKTOP.
In some cases, the DESKTOP then after a while - CRASH.

It was miraculous that I managed to get some benchies done but even during that session I couldn't get it to go 4K no matter what.

Now I'm trying to get to benchies again, some can't do. Ridiculous so far.

It just doesn't make sense, a rig that can run GTX 980 Ti and R9 295X2 and never had any problem.

Changed PSU, even now my last ditch effort - raise the wattage to 850W but to no avail.

OK now I go try Fury X.
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Epic fail review unit. You'd think AMD would test these things before sending it out to the media eh?

I'd have a look at the mobo and then run power diagnostics via a riser card and current clamps.

Not looking good either way.
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No, this is not from AMD. It's retail units of Sapphire's R9 390X and R9 390 Nitro.

As for the Fury X, I am installing the drivers now and keeping my fingers crossed.

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I'd have a look at the mobo and then run power diagnostics via a riser card and current clamps.
I went from Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 3 and ASRock Z97 Extreme 4.
I went from Core i5 to Core i3 (because the i5 on Gigabyte board is with AIO cooler, troublesome to remove just to troubleshoot)
I went from FSP Aurum S 700W to Cooler Master V700 to Cooler Master V850

Arrghhhhh..................

Really really really hoping the Fury X would be working fine.

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Wahhh I love the Fury X!!! Compact and silent, ok well slight noise from the pump.

The unit runs cooling and it's very unlike the 295X2.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 25 2015, 08:45 AM)
Currently having very bad experience with Sapphire R9 3xx series. sad.gif

The screen just flickers away, often crash and unable to do anything. NOTE : That's on the same system that's able to run GTX 980 Ti and R9 295X2.

I got fed up, did a fresh installation on different SSD, change mobo, RAM, processor, PSU, SATA cables whatever you can think off. Still the same thing.

Windows is 8.1 of course, driver is 15.6 as on the site. Nope, didn't work. 15.5, 15.4, 14.12 also doesn't work.

Now I'm just waiting for PowerColor units to come in and see if it's the brand issue or the Radeon chip itself.

And so far I have problem with R9 390X and R9 390 Nitro from Sapphire. Fury? Well, I haven't plug it in.
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Use drivers 15.15 instead, that's for the 300 series IINM

EDIT: AMD sites said 15.6 is for 200 series and below only use this:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/P...300-Series.aspx

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Using 15.15 now for the Fury X.

Once done I'll go back to the R9 390X / R9 390 Nitro again. I did install from the CD provided but to no avail.

Will see how it goes. Benching Fury X now. Preliminary deduction - performance similar to the GTX 980. Should be around R9 390X performance as seen on the many articles.
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If that's the case then there's a chance that the Nano is cheaper than 390x? biggrin.gif
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Pretty much yes. I'm guessing the Nano performed around 290 ish. With the benefit of form factor and power consumption.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 25 2015, 05:52 AM)
I don't think AMD failed to deliver, they actually brave enough to invest on HBM and get it into market first.  That alone is a credit.  Just like they did with GDDR5.  Only this time their involvement in HBM is more direct.

Despite alot of problem in manufacturing the chip, they manage to at least match the 980Ti performance, and the best part their pricing is still lower than 980Ti. 

Maybe our expectation is too high on AMD for this card to beat the Titan X. For sure nvidia Pascal is more mature product when it is release, but AMD will have the upper hand in terms of experience and familiarities with HBM technology.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 06:58 AM)
lol what how come its tottaly different from what amd benchmark themselves

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I'm so glad I followed your rant about the card and be skeptic about it . My next card going to be 980 ti for sure
To thought that watercooling would actually benefit fury x in terms of overclocking but mere 5% increase  doh.gif
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Well, the Fury X will be only reference though. No matter which vendor, they will have similar performance. That's why I am more interested in Fury Pro...the AiB partners can go crazy with the Fury. And like TTL said at the end of his Fury X review, this is what most enthusiast will want to wait for.

I can't recall if there is any difference in spec between those 2, but if there's no real difference, there's no stopping for them to slap in a hybrid cooling solution.

EDIT: Ok, I just realised that the Fury Pro will only have 3584 SP which is lower that Fury X's 4096..Just have to wait and see how much of a difference will that make.

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I can view BIOS / POST.
I can view Windows load.
The most I can reach is DESKTOP.
In some cases, the DESKTOP then after a while - CRASH.

It was miraculous that I managed to get some benchies done but even during that session I couldn't get it to go 4K no matter what.

Now I'm trying to get to benchies again, some can't do. Ridiculous so far.

It just doesn't make sense, a rig that can run GTX 980 Ti and R9 295X2 and never had any problem.

Changed PSU, even now my last ditch effort - raise the wattage to 850W but to no avail.

OK now I go try Fury X.
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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Jun 25 2015, 11:19 AM)
Issit the card on dual bios? Check whether the bios switch is properly switched? Happen to my 780 lightning once
biggrin.gif You know, Dual-BIOS shouldn't be giving hiccups like that. Anyway I tested both, not a first time Sapphire card user. wink.gif

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biggrin.gif You know, Dual-BIOS shouldn't be giving hiccups like that. Anyway I tested both, not a first time Sapphire card user. wink.gif
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Oh and please, forget about Fury beating Titan X.

Price is around RM 3k. Performance varies from anywhere from trailing a GTX 980 to outperforming a GTX 980 Ti.

4GB RAM and HBM factor.
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biggrin.gif You know, Dual-BIOS shouldn't be giving hiccups like that. Anyway I tested both, not a first time Sapphire card user. wink.gif
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cool, happened to see similarity with my previous problem, almost wanna cry back then sweat.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 25 2015, 11:25 AM)
Oh and please, forget about Fury beating Titan X.

Price is around RM 3k. Performance varies from anywhere from trailing a GTX 980 to outperforming a GTX 980 Ti.

4GB RAM and HBM factor.
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hmm.gif feel underpower... hm maybe i should stick to Crossfire R9 290X TriX/Vapor... it is silent AMD Fury X(should be call Fluffy X)

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:32 PM)
hmm.gif  feel underpower...  hm maybe i should stick to Crossfire R9 290X TriX/Vapor... it is silent AMD Fury X(should be call Fluffy X)

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sorry i'm noob in this.. later after breaking fast i try again..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:32 PM)
hmm.gif  feel underpower...  hm maybe i should stick to Crossfire R9 290X TriX/Vapor... it is silent AMD Fury X(should be call Fluffy X)

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sorry i'm noob in this.. later after breaking fast i try again..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wtf even my single 970 can get 11k score

I tot at least gonna hit 15-16k
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Linus Fury X was DOA that shows how much problem it will have and never heard that review sample DOA first time i have heard that.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:39 PM)
Try on some games u have.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 02:43 PM)
wtf even my single 970 can get 11k score

I tot at least gonna hit 15-16k
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:32 PM)
hmm.gif  feel underpower...  hm maybe i should stick to Crossfire R9 290X TriX/Vapor... it is silent AMD Fury X(should be call Fluffy X)


sorry i'm noob in this.. later after breaking fast i try again..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Driver from CD or download? Did u use DDU? hmm.gif
That look like my 290x score at 1150mhz.
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later.. smile.gif
my gpu clock is 1050mhz/mem 500mhz.. What was your GPU clock/mem ?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 25 2015, 02:54 PM)
Driver from CD or download? Did u use DDU? hmm.gif
That look like my 290x score at 1150mhz.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 02:56 PM)
1578/1800 lol

please bro give me a good word and I shall buy this card
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and i cannot reccomend anything yet.. ask Goldfinger he know more.. i just do this for fun need time to plan on better clock OH temp is all under 50C brows.gif
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so what we look at again Graphic score or just the SCORE.. ? ? hmm oh i forgot to oc my Cpu.. ehh but later.. smile.gif adios . sorry if this offended anyone..
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 02:43 PM)
wtf even my single 970 can get 11k score

I tot at least gonna hit 15-16k
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coz bro unseen83 is a nub in benchmarking tongue.gif (no offend)
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ubi kentang review should be up soon.
coz bro unseen83 is a nub in benchmarking  tongue.gif (no offend)
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lol nvm my itchy hand cannot tahan anb bought this instead

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 25 2015, 03:03 PM)
so what we look at again Graphic score or just the SCORE.. ? ? hmm oh i forgot to oc my Cpu.. ehh but later.. smile.gif adios . sorry if this offended anyone..
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worst than my 970sli but then again this is just synthetic benchmark

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 25 2015, 04:59 PM)
Why not custom models that can boost alot straight from the box?
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 05:27 PM)
I'm also getting lower score lol T_T

worst than my 970sli but then again this is just synthetic benchmark

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asked for fury x but non of the shop in penang got selling
this is then only 980ti i can find in penang lol sad.gif
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980ti is like that de, you need to overclock to match the speed of 970 sli.

Later try overclock and tell us how loud the cooler is haha
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Linus Fury X was DOA that shows how much problem it will have and never heard that review sample DOA first time i have heard that.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 02:43 PM)
wtf even my single 970 can get 11k score

I tot at least gonna hit 15-16k
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Running at what clocks? What is your graphics score?
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for 970 ?

1587/118

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7439068

I think my post kinda disrespect amd thread but where have the new fury x owner gone to ???

Enjoying the card is it biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 07:50 PM)
for 970 ?

1587/118

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7439068

I think my post kinda disrespect amd thread but where have the new fury x owner gone to ???

Enjoying the card is it  biggrin.gif
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lol nvm my itchy hand cannot tahan anb bought this instead

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you, sir, made the right choice laugh.gif

now think of how 2 get 2 or 3 pieces 4 SLI setup brows.gif

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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jun 25 2015, 02:48 PM)
Linus Fury X was DOA that shows how much problem it will have and never heard that review sample DOA first time i have heard that.
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i can't Overclock higher 1125Mhz/10+%vcore (well i can go up higher but Crash when running 3Dmark/Heaven) Vcore 10%-50% eh.. lost against GTX 980 Ti.. for now until driver improve... i hope lolx

Stable OC core for my Fluffy is 1,125Mhz with Vcore 10+%

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now my Rig no more Turbo sound sad.gif xx
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 25 2015, 07:59 PM)
Disrespect? No la. Haha.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 25 2015, 08:24 PM)
you, sir, made the right choice laugh.gif

now think of how 2 get 2 or 3 pieces 4 SLI setup brows.gif
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I think I wanna go for rog swift instead but now waiting ipmart to refund my xb280hk monitor purchase that they promised to deliver by this week ended up delaying again .
Seriously I ordered like on 3rd of june , they took me as a joke and now I want my money back only to be told refund takes 10-12 working days
my god what bank do they even use . Even cheque cleared in just 3-4 working days

enough of my rant . But bro Unseen damn you reallly hardcore amd fan , I dont really have allegiance to me performance comes first .
But 980 ti at full speed does sound like a hair dryer XD

At least to compensate the lack of firepower of fury x the less noise is a brownie points thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 09:20 PM)
A bit scared kena marah dengan taiko post nvidia crap on amd thread . Really tempted purchasing fury even want to go for trip to kl
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Don't worry about it. biggrin.gif I actually pro multi-gpu. Rather than buying fury, why don't you buy another 980 ti for SLI? What monitor you have right now?
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 25 2015, 09:31 PM)
Don't worry about it.  biggrin.gif I actually pro multi-gpu. Rather than buying fury, why don't you buy another 980 ti for SLI? What monitor you have right now?
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 09:20 PM)
A bit scared kena marah dengan taiko post nvidia crap on amd thread . Really tempted purchasing fury even want to go for trip to kl
screw postage tongue.gif
I think I wanna go for rog swift instead but now waiting ipmart to refund my xb280hk monitor purchase that they promised to deliver by this week ended up delaying again .
Seriously I ordered like on 3rd of june , they took me as a joke and now I want my money back only to be told refund takes 10-12 working days
my god what bank do they even use . Even cheque cleared in just 3-4 working days

enough of my rant . But bro Unseen damn you reallly hardcore amd fan , I dont really have allegiance  to me performance comes first .
But 980 ti at full speed does sound like a hair dryer XD

At least to compensate the lack of firepower of fury x the less noise is a brownie points  thumbup.gif
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when you think ubi emas gonna fin his benchmark... ?? ? i'm curious... and hoping he do better than me smile.gif as i think Fury X is limited by 1,125Mhz...
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 25 2015, 10:02 PM)
when you think ubi emas gonna fin his benchmark... ?? ? i'm curious... and hoping he do better than me smile.gif as i think Fury X is limited by 1,125Mhz...
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 05:27 PM)
I'm also getting lower score lol T_T

worst than my 970sli but then again this is just synthetic benchmark
970 SLI would be faster than any single card 980.

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970 SLI would be faster than any single card 980.
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They mean 980TI, which performance should hover about the range of 970SLI.

If 980TI is lucky enough for a OC to 1.5k range, it can definitely gap in and win in the situation which require more than 3.5GB VRAM.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyt..._Gaming/33.html
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To those with custom loop, Fury X in single slot mode.
http://www.techpowerup.com/213800/ek-water...ot-capable.html
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 25 2015, 11:31 PM)
They mean 980TI, which performance should hover about the range of 970SLI.
I'm referring to both the 980 and 980 Ti.

The 980 Ti has speed improvements but it's not suprising that it's behind 970 SLI.

Very few article has such comparison, check out this one http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/

The 970 SLI may lose out when games go beyond the 4GB RAM limitation.

I have the 980 and 980 Ti with me, the Ti does shine when game settings take up a lot of VRAM.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 26 2015, 12:14 AM)
I'm referring to both the 980 and 980 Ti.

The 980 Ti has speed improvements but it's not suprising that it's behind 970 SLI.

Very few article has such comparison, check out this one http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review/

The 970 SLI may lose out when games go beyond the 4GB RAM limitation.

I have the 980 and 980 Ti with me, the Ti does shine when game settings take up a lot of VRAM.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/..._970_SLI/5.html
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The resolution a little off for the one of 980TI OC I posted above (1600p vs 1440p), so we use a roughly 10% conversion factor.

If in 1440p reso, it is expected to have 130+ FPS, which is not exactly better than 980TI, and the SLI profile is already among the best (performance scaling of 2 cards almost reaching 200%). For most other game, SLI rarely able to scale this high (it averaged at bout 160% performance to single card), 980TI OC definitely can be winner there.

p/s: Anyone find this thread is getting a little too "green"... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 26 2015, 12:28 AM)
p/s: Anyone find this thread is getting a little too "green"... sweat.gif
I mentioned that yesterday and someone decided to report me. tongue.gif

But anyway it's like what others say, you can't be discussing one camp without discussing the other.

I think green camp also will be discussing red camp HBM and whatever else.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 26 2015, 12:35 AM)
I mentioned that yesterday and someone decided to report me. tongue.gif

But anyway it's like what others say, you can't be discussing one camp without discussing the other.

I think green camp also will be discussing red camp HBM and whatever else.
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Currently pairing my A10 7850K with GTX 750Ti, just to try out The Witcher 3. Very playable btw, albeit on 30 frame per second. The game even on Medium settings already looking decent. But now already feel bored with the game, thinking of reverting back to the iGPU. Great game but I have shorter attention span these days and gaming in general doesn't seems interesting to me anymore.

Maybe i'll better off skipping the entire Fiji and 300 series GPU, and just wait for AMD next APUs.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jun 26 2015, 02:22 AM)
Currently pairing my A10 7850K with GTX 750Ti, just to try out The Witcher 3. Very playable btw, albeit on 30 frame per second. The game even on Medium settings already looking decent. But now already feel bored with the game, thinking of reverting back to the iGPU. Great game but I have shorter attention span these days and gaming in general doesn't seems interesting to me anymore.

Maybe i'll better off skipping the entire Fiji and 300 series GPU, and just wait for AMD next APUs.
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I'm in the same boat as you. Especially the bolded part. The problem is newer games are...boring. Apart from amazing graphics the gameplay/game mechanics/storyline are boring. My highly anticipated game this year is GTA V, because I'm enjoyed San Andreas very very much I never watch a single gameplay or anything related to it before it was released to PC. When it finally out, I find the game lackluster. Amazing graphics yes, but it lacks the fun San Andreas brings. Some mission is just a re-spin from it so there is nothing new regarding it. For the record I finished San Andreas six times, from start to finish, on GTA V I haven't finished the first one yet. The only amazing new games I find interesting these past few years is Metro series. I love the original 2033, the atmosphere, the story, the graphics, it's a rare mix of those three making the game amazing. Game mechanics are a bit wonky where stealth are literally broke in the game but they fixed it in new Redux. Looking ta E3 this year the upcoming games aren't that interesting. Doom 4 looks meh (I love Doom3 BTW despite a lot of hate), Fallout 4 looks exactly like older Fallout, might play this one.

I'm too waiting for next Zen APU to comes out. Hoping they will put the HBM on it. If they really do I can say goodbye to discrete graphics. Even with 500MHz 1024-bit bus first gen HBM netted 128GB/s, a massive improvement over 34GB/s bandwidth from dual channel 2133MHz DDR3 memory.
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I'm in the same boat as you. Especially the bolded part. The problem is newer games are...boring. Apart from amazing graphics the gameplay/game mechanics/storyline are boring. My highly anticipated game this year is GTA V, because I'm enjoyed San Andreas very very much I never watch a single gameplay or anything related to it before it was released to PC. When it finally out, I find the game lackluster. Amazing graphics yes, but it lacks the fun San Andreas brings. Some mission is just a re-spin from it so there is nothing new regarding it. For the record I finished San Andreas six times, from start to finish, on GTA V I haven't finished the first one yet. The only amazing new games I find interesting these past few years is Metro series. I love the original 2033, the atmosphere, the story, the graphics, it's a rare mix of those three making the game amazing. Game mechanics are a bit wonky where stealth are literally broke in the game but they fixed it in new Redux. Looking ta E3 this year the upcoming games aren't that interesting. Doom 4 looks meh (I love Doom3 BTW despite a lot of hate), Fallout 4 looks exactly like older Fallout, might play this one.

I'm too waiting for next Zen APU to comes out. Hoping they will put the HBM on it. If they really do I can say goodbye to discrete graphics. Even with 500MHz 1024-bit bus first gen HBM netted 128GB/s, a massive improvement over 34GB/s bandwidth from dual channel 2133MHz DDR3 memory.
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Apart from the graphic, I actually enjoy GTAV more than SA for better control and handling of characters and vehicles. Their attempt to go with 3 protagonists are also something worth mentioning. Also the darker element like psychopath and altruist are making the game more hardcore than ever.

And yeah, I also a fan of Metro. Originally played 2033, consider OK but I not don't like their map layout which can lead to clueless dead end from time to time. Metro LL is like an improved and made easier version of it. Redux hadn't tried, but I reckon it should be 2033 with LL mechanics&improvements.

Hmmm, APU with full memory on chip, that's some interesting stuff. Intel's latest attempt with Broadwell with 128MB of onboard RAM as cache netted pretty fantastic result over predecessor.

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 26 2015, 06:02 AM)
I'm in the same boat as you. Especially the bolded part. The problem is newer games are...boring. Apart from amazing graphics the gameplay/game mechanics/storyline are boring. My highly anticipated game this year is GTA V, because I'm enjoyed San Andreas very very much I never watch a single gameplay or anything related to it before it was released to PC. When it finally out, I find the game lackluster. Amazing graphics yes, but it lacks the fun San Andreas brings. Some mission is just a re-spin from it so there is nothing new regarding it. For the record I finished San Andreas six times, from start to finish, on GTA V I haven't finished the first one yet. The only amazing new games I find interesting these past few years is Metro series. I love the original 2033, the atmosphere, the story, the graphics, it's a rare mix of those three making the game amazing. Game mechanics are a bit wonky where stealth are literally broke in the game but they fixed it in new Redux. Looking ta E3 this year the upcoming games aren't that interesting. Doom 4 looks meh (I love Doom3 BTW despite a lot of hate), Fallout 4 looks exactly like older Fallout, might play this one.

I'm too waiting for next Zen APU to comes out. Hoping they will put the HBM on it. If they really do I can say goodbye to discrete graphics. Even with 500MHz 1024-bit bus first gen HBM netted 128GB/s, a massive improvement over 34GB/s bandwidth from dual channel 2133MHz DDR3 memory.
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You are absolutely right..i cant recall how many times i replayed the old splinter cell series and nfs most wanted...altho i loved gta v, i dont think im gonna play it back again..dont get me started on watch dogs..

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Fury X possibly reviewed with incorrect drivers

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edit: you can download the "20th" driver here it should end with june20.exe
edit: guru3d with correct driver


for lyn fury x owner.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 09:00 AM)
Fury X possibly reviewed with incorrect drivers
for lyn fury x owner.. sweat.gif
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Think dude u need to look at the review properly.
There were a lot of inconsistency even between 980ti vs titan X

But basically fury x won where no aa or af was used.

Jaggy heaven i guess

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To those with custom loop, Fury X in single slot mode.
http://www.techpowerup.com/213800/ek-water...ot-capable.html
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You don't need AA when on 4K la. biggrin.gif

Anyway I've already tested the Fury X. It's a nice piece of device but the performance is variance is huge when compared to GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 26 2015, 09:59 AM)
You don't need AA when on 4K la. biggrin.gif

Anyway I've already tested the Fury X. It's a nice piece of device but the performance is variance is huge when compared to GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 26 2015, 10:51 AM)
what this I heard about price cut for high end nvidia card T_T

Damn sucker punch towards amd

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...graphics-cards/
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oh.. i love when competition at it effect.. i wish this news help lower the price GTX 980 Ti in Malaysia
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 26 2015, 11:00 AM)
oh.. i love when competition at it effect.. i wish this news help lower the price GTX 980 Ti in Malaysia
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Bro is it true they said the drivers reviewer used to benchmark fury x is the older driver not intended for the card for optimum performance and there is latest version out now
which improve the performance ?


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NOoo .. is sold out...

http://wccftech.com/amds-radeon-r9-fury-sold-out-day-launch/
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 09:00 AM)
Fury X possibly reviewed with incorrect drivers
for lyn fury x owner.. sweat.gif
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hmm.gif naah i use that driver out 20June... i just wanted to know from another user with Fury X top Stable OC core clock.. cause i manage to get only 1,125Mhz if higher benchmark crash..

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 26 2015, 09:59 AM)
You don't need AA when on 4K la. biggrin.gif

Anyway I've already tested the Fury X. It's a nice piece of device but the performance is variance is huge when compared to GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti.
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So not true.
Need AA whenever a game uses AF.

Well this arguement is best settled with monitors n still shot.
The Need for AA arguement already won in ocn.

Summary those who said no aa is required endorses no af is required. They overcome with pixel pitch. Its more like neglecting graphic fidelity with pixel pitch.




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Anyone notice Hardware.info review of the Fury X? They overclocked the memory. sweat.gif

Not sure if futtushuppu. http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158/19/am...locking-results
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 26 2015, 01:12 PM)
Anyone notice Hardware.info review of the Fury X? They overclocked the memory. sweat.gif 

Not sure if futtushuppu.  http://us.hardware.info/reviews/6158/19/am...locking-results
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That's really high graphics score at 19k. Unseen83 only get less than 17k.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2015, 01:15 PM)
That's really high graphics score at 19k. Unseen83 only get less than 17k.
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I hope you don't need 2011 procs to unleash Fury X potential. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2015, 01:15 PM)
That's really high graphics score at 19k. Unseen83 only get less than 17k.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 26 2015, 09:59 AM)
You don't need AA when on 4K la. biggrin.gif

Anyway I've already tested the Fury X. It's a nice piece of device but the performance is variance is huge when compared to GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti.
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Agree with you there.

QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 26 2015, 11:03 AM)
Bro is it true they said the drivers reviewer used to benchmark fury x is the older driver not intended for the card for optimum performance and there is latest version out now
which improve the performance ?
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It's true some reviewer used older driver like 14.12 & some also use 15.6 beta but the correct driver for 390/Fury & the latest is 15.15 beta. I'm not comparing performance here but only noted the driver versions.

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Custom WB for Fury.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ek-fc-r9-...ater-block.html

btw, will there be Non-WC Fury later on? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jun 26 2015, 04:55 PM)
Custom WB for Fury.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ek-fc-r9-...ater-block.html

btw, will there be Non-WC Fury later on?  hmm.gif
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The Fury product line up will be :

Fury X (Water cooled, Air cooled)

Fury (air cooled)

Fury nano (short card for ITX case), I am waiting for this card.

Fury X2!!!


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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 26 2015, 10:51 AM)
what this I heard about price cut for high end nvidia card T_T

Damn sucker punch towards amd

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...graphics-cards/
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Nice, more price cuts FTW! brows.gif
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jun 26 2015, 05:02 PM)
The Fury product line up will be :

Fury X (Water cooled, Air cooled)

Fury (air cooled)

Fury nano (short card for ITX case), I am waiting for this card.

Fury X2!!!
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i believe fury X is damn short ady......how short fury nano will be rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:07 PM)
i believe fury X is damn short ady......how short fury nano will be  rclxub.gif
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Size of your palm! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jun 26 2015, 05:02 PM)
The Fury product line up will be :

Fury X (Water cooled, Air cooled)

Fury (air cooled)

Fury nano (short card for ITX case), I am waiting for this card.

Fury X2!!!
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ohh? I thought the Fury X is going to be a single reference design and Fury is the version with different AIBs.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 09:54 AM)
Think dude u need to look at the review properly.
There were a lot of inconsistency even between 980ti vs titan X

But basically fury x won where no aa or af was used.

Jaggy heaven i guess
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not sure, but as the quote..980ti and titan x still dominating for lower reso.
oso, as gold said..aa is not 4k thing.
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jun 26 2015, 05:02 PM)
The Fury product line up will be :

Fury X (Water cooled, Air cooled)

Fury (air cooled)

Fury nano (short card for ITX case), I am waiting for this card.

Fury X2!!!
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iinm

fury = air cooled
fury x = water cooled

there wont be any air cooled fury x, wasnt it hmm.gif

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:36 PM)
iinm

fury = air cooled
fury x = water cooled

there wont be any air cooled fury x, wasnt it  hmm.gif
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sorry, my mistake. Anything outside fury X/X2 are not water cooled...
Thanks for the corrections. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jun 26 2015, 05:41 PM)
sorry, my mistake. Anything outside fury X/X2 are water cooled...
Thanks for the corrections.  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:07 PM)
i believe fury X is damn short ady......how short fury nano will be  rclxub.gif
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Just see the picture.
20% shorter than Fury X with power consumption 175W.

SOS:
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:34 PM)
not sure, but as the quote..980ti and titan x still dominating for lower reso.
oso, as gold said..aa is not 4k thing.
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U guys really need to game at 4k.

Any form of af needs aa.

Ure using pixel pitch as an excuse. Aka the inability of ure eyes to distinguish jaggies so to say there is no need. Which is false.
Jaggies still there.
Resolution doesnt fix jaggies.


If tonight free will post some screenshots.

You guys really need to update ureself more. This topic already been covered in ocn. You wont find anyone there anymore spouting no aa required for 4k.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:52 PM)
U guys really need to game at 4k.

Any form of af needs aa.

Ure using pixel pitch as an excuse.  Aka the inability of ure eyes to distinguish jaggies so to say there is no need. Which is false.
Jaggies still there.
Resolution doesnt fix jaggies.
If tonight free will post some screenshots.

You guys really need to update ureself more. This topic already been covered in ocn. You wont find anyone there anymore spouting no aa required for 4k.
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as if.. rolleyes.gif

"want to play some games?".
"how about we play game of finding the jaggies in 4k".

said no one ever. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:08 PM)
as if.. rolleyes.gif

"want to play some games?".
"how about we play game of finding the jaggies in 4k".

said no one ever.  tongue.gif
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Exactly. That said person doesnt know what he is talking about

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Lol.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:12 PM)
Exactly. That said person doesnt know what he is talking about

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Lol.
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that said person who actually playing games...instead of finding jaggies

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:16 PM)
that said person who actually playing games...instead of finding jaggies

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That said person playing jaggy game. Mesti too much motion blur/dof till cannot see.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:29 PM)
That said person playing jaggy game. Mesti too much motion blur/dof till cannot see.

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who the hell still using motion blur, going rclxub.gif while playing games..
get it..playing. not finding jaggies pixel .. tongue.gif

u must be going crazy if play minecraft.."nooo my games is soo jaggy!!" tongue.gif
"cant finish this batman...too jaggy." doh.gif
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:36 PM)
who the hell still using motion blur, going  rclxub.gif while playing games..
get it..playing. not finding jaggies pixel ..  tongue.gif

u must be going crazy if play minecraft.."nooo my games is soo jaggy!!"  tongue.gif 
"cant finish this batman...too jaggy."  doh.gif
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apparently you dude. Even if not ure monitor is doing it with the response rate and bad overdrive i guess.
batman almost done lol.. no jaggies here at 4k.

AA is needed u guys just dont want to accept the fact.
cause the alternative ppl would be comfortable with the amount of vram they have.

anyway end of this banter as it reminiscence the same beginning of whether ssd needed for gaming and 8gb needed for gaming etc..
now everybody is using it and forgot their earlier remarks.


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:55 PM)
apparently you dude. Even if not ure monitor is doing it with the response rate and bad overdrive i guess.
batman almost done lol.. no jaggies here at 4k.

AA is needed u guys just dont want to accept the fact.
cause the alternative ppl would be comfortable with the amount of vram they have.

anyway end of this banter as it reminiscence the same beginning of whether ssd needed for gaming and 8gb needed for gaming etc..
now everybody is using it and forgot their earlier remarks.
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With widely available post processing AA now, I don't think we need to turn off AA anymore. Almost no performance hit and not much VRAM usage for AA...

No stuttering on the batman?
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 08:55 PM)
apparently you dude. Even if not ure monitor is doing it with the response rate and bad overdrive i guess.
batman almost done lol.. no jaggies here at 4k.

AA is needed u guys just dont want to accept the fact.
cause the alternative ppl would be comfortable with the amount of vram they have.

anyway end of this banter as it reminiscence the same beginning of whether ssd needed for gaming and 8gb needed for gaming etc..
now everybody is using it and forgot their earlier remarks.
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most of your point is based on assumption.

apparently i use motion blur.
apparently something wrong with my response rate
apparently im having bad overdrive
apparently i cant play without aa, 4k must need aa. doh.gif
apparently i comfortable with amout of vram i prolly have.

aa is needed or necessary in 4k?.

doesnt know what to make about your last para..another going around for some unrelated issue just like last time for unknown reason

most of your word is a fairy dust to me because its from your pov and to you your pov is 100% correct. rolleyes.gif

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i believe fury X is damn short ady......how short fury nano will be  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 26 2015, 05:08 PM)
Size of your palm! laugh.gif
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haha last time people always says the longer the better

now its so odd seeing people saying the shorter the better laugh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 26 2015, 10:22 PM)
haha last time people always says the longer the better

now its so odd seeing people saying the shorter the better laugh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2015, 09:51 PM)
With widely available post processing AA now, I don't think we need to turn off AA anymore. Almost no performance hit and not much VRAM usage for AA...

No stuttering on the batman?
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 26 2015, 09:56 PM)
most of your point is based on assumption.

apparently i use motion blur.
apparently something wrong with my response rate
apparently im having bad overdrive
apparently i cant play without aa, 4k must need aa.  doh.gif
apparently i comfortable with amout of vram i prolly have.

aa is needed or necessary in 4k?.

doesnt know what to make about your last para..another going around for some unrelated issue just like last time for unknown reason

most of your word is a fairy dust to me because its from your pov and to you your pov is 100% correct.  rolleyes.gif
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dude its about ure 4k gaming experience stating doesnt require aa

the reason above is the only way i think why u think there isnt

and its the same or beyond ure comprehension now so hence time will tell about how ssd argument etc started. This is akin reminiscence that time.

and its not my pov. Its a fact. Proven Fact. Ures is a POV.


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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 26 2015, 09:51 PM)
With widely available post processing AA now, I don't think we need to turn off AA anymore. Almost no performance hit and not much VRAM usage for AA...

No stuttering on the batman?
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zero stuttering.

but not really happy that the current batman is using the same sli as CODAW which is AFR1 and that has not been solved until today.
Single gpu seems the only way to play it.

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 12:00 PM)
So not true.
Need AA whenever a game uses AF.

Well this arguement is best settled with monitors n still shot.
The Need for AA arguement already won in ocn.

Summary those who said no aa is required endorses no af is required. They overcome with pixel pitch. Its more like neglecting graphic fidelity with pixel pitch.
er, sure if you want photo of 4K AA and no AA.

Remember the good old days where CRT monitors got bigger but resolution didn't? That's when AA helps remove jaggies.

Consoles back then didn't need AA because those CRT TV units are interlaced.

AA went on and on and on but until now.

The logic behind no AA required on 4K is that the pixel density is huge that you won't be seeing jaggies.

I haven't read the OCN thing you mentioned but what level of AA are you referring to btw?

8xAA used to be great but as time went on I ended up gaming with usually only 2xAA or 4xAA.

And 4K with AA is really a killer.


QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:52 PM)
Ure using pixel pitch as an excuse.  Aka the inability of ure eyes to distinguish jaggies so to say there is no need. Which is false.
Jaggies still there.
Resolution doesnt fix jaggies.
If tonight free will post some screenshots.
ehhh it was due to resolution vs actual screen size that lead to jaggies that lead to introduction of AA.
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thats a really sick build shocking.gif

11/10 damn good
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New trend lol

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 27 2015, 10:46 AM)
New trend lol

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 26 2015, 11:07 PM)
AMDMatt Fury X Quadfire.


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Edit: naah i change.. too expensive.. sad.gif by way what case is that ? and did you see AMD Fury X in 3dmark Hall of Fame ? ? i can't find it.. http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+...rsion+1.1/4+gpu

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 27 2015, 11:08 AM)
What the heck. shocking.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 27 2015, 11:13 AM)
is what i do every night.. is norm.. right ? is what all we nerd post thing on this do .. right at night.. ?
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Every night?

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 27 2015, 11:22 AM)
Every night?

...impossibru every day remove and insert the GPU. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 27 2015, 11:11 AM)
Edit: naah i change.. too expensive.. sad.gif by way what case is that ? and did you see  AMD Fury X in 3dmark Hall of Fame ? ? i can't find it.. http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+...rsion+1.1/4+gpu
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Only valid result can enter HOF.

Can u post Firestrike at 5K and API overhead test scores?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 27 2015, 11:46 AM)
Only valid result can enter HOF.

Can u post Firestrike at 5K and API overhead test scores?
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fire strike 5K = http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5225535 i got 0 lolz / API overhead test http://www.3dmark.com/aot/38161

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 27 2015, 11:11 AM)


Edit: naah i change.. too expensive.. sad.gif by way what case is that ? and did you see  AMD Fury X in 3dmark Hall of Fame ? ? i can't find it.. http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+...rsion+1.1/4+gpu
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its phanteks enthoo primo red version.
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http://www.eteknix.com/amd-fury-x-quadfire-results/
Fury X quadfire benchmark, graphics score:

single card: 3946
two cards: 7754 (96.5% performance of single card added)
three cards: 11599 (97.4% performance of single card added)
four cards: 15307 (94.0% performance of single card added)

Wow almost perfect scaling all the way to four cards!

And quad Fury X vs Quad Titan X:

Quad Fury X on Thief:
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got coil whine?? hmm.gif pump make the noise level high?? hmm.gif jayz too bias on nvidia.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 27 2015, 03:31 PM)


got coil whine??  hmm.gif pump make the noise level high?? hmm.gif jayz too bias on nvidia.
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never seen jayz being biased about review.

i think it just hes get bad unit?.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 27 2015, 04:58 PM)
never seen jayz being biased about review.

i think it just hes get bad unit?.
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 27 2015, 04:58 PM)
never seen jayz being biased about review.

i think it just hes get bad unit?.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 27 2015, 05:03 PM)
he himself mentioned hes biased to Nvidia already in the first place
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he said he use nvidia as his preference personal use, and it didnt not affect with his review.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 27 2015, 05:21 PM)
he said he use nvidia as his preference personal use, and it didnt not affect with his review.
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that alone means hes not that objective anymore laugh.gif

at least i think how it is
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No Coil whine on my Fury x... AND i know what Coil whine / Fan rattle sound like.. use to own R9 290x TriX ...

QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 27 2015, 01:43 PM)
Wow almost perfect scaling all the way to four cards!

And quad Fury X vs Quad Titan X:

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 27 2015, 09:06 PM)
No Coil whine on my Fury x...  AND i know what Coil whine / Fan rattle sound like.. use to own R9 290x TriX ...
hmm.gif  bro i think Fury X running on Mantle and Titan X DX11, Mantle always give a good /higher Min Fps
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RM 12k just for the graphic system.

That's the thing I like about the Fury X - the card is cooling so you can put them so close to one another and there won't be any heat issue.

It's short and takes up only 2 PCI-E slots so it fits perfectly.

Try running any other cards red or green camp with this setup, they'll be hot like silly.
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I noticed some johor foo like to fake benchmark with tessellation enhancements in another thread and later claim oops i did again like before and most probably all forgive him.

coming soon next month fury x with Ek WB. places an order. Doing a phantek itx build. Waifu approved change of TV.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

just waiting for more feedback on that coil whine issue. Thats a no no.

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Not even one stock of 300 series or Fury X at Kota Kinabalu.

Suddenly there's a single Titan X for sale @RM4799 lol. Feels weird why bring it in instead of 980 Ti.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 27 2015, 09:36 PM)
I noticed some johor foo like to fake benchmark with tessellation enhancements  in another thread and later claim oops i did again like before and most probably all forgive him.
What's this thing about?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 27 2015, 10:12 PM)
What's this thing about?
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mostly on the issue of "Johor foo's" benchmark scores on Unigine Heaven with AMD cards
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 27 2015, 09:36 PM)
coming soon next month fury x with Ek WB. places an order. Doing a phantek itx build. Waifu approved change of TV.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Should be better than what I attempted.

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...20373184655863/

Having a terribly difficult time to install the Fury X into my ThermalTake Core V1.

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 27 2015, 10:58 PM)
mostly on the issue of "Johor foo's" benchmark scores on Unigine Heaven with AMD cards
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Johor foo's..in which i'm sure is Unseen83. doh.gif

Come on la,no need to be so rude. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 27 2015, 11:15 PM)
Should be better than what I attempted.

https://www.facebook.com/goldfries.fanpage/...20373184655863/

Having a terribly difficult time to install the Fury X into my ThermalTake Core V1.
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Thats tight. I am looking also at that lianli case mounted on the wall. Or just do ure own with tempered glass. It looks sick.

First thing now is getting the wb. Ek is taking in bookings.
Also hoping for a backplate.




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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 27 2015, 11:24 PM)
Johor foo's..in which i'm sure is Unseen83. doh.gif

Come on la,no need to be so rude. shakehead.gif
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im not fussed, since i dont take the Unigine Heaven scores that serious in the first place
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 27 2015, 11:34 PM)
First thing now is getting the wb. Ek is taking in bookings.
Also hoping for a backplate.
How much? I've been looking around, no price details.

I got it assembled finally and my goodness it's just too much a hassle.

I had to mount the fan outside. sad.gif I would've mounted the radiator outside but it's designed to be L shaped same direction as the tube connection.

Only option is to have fan placed outside.

The mounting screws provided on the unit (holding the fan to radiator) is not long enough and I had to use the ones from Cooler Master's AIO unit to get it mounted.

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Guys - I know who the person is. I ask WHAT is it about, as in the tessellation part and all.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 27 2015, 11:34 PM)
im not fussed, since i dont take the Unigine Heaven scores that serious in the first place
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Same here,i do it for the fun,and to beat other people scores for lolz. laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 27 2015, 11:49 PM)
Guys - I know who the person is. I ask WHAT is it about, as in the tessellation part and all.
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in a nutshell,

>cstkl1 is unhappy that johor foo is not displaying real performance scores as per standard
>asks johor foo to rebench
>johor foo doesnt want
>cstkl1 deems it as being untruthful to the scores as AMD doesnt do well in tessellation, with Unigine Heaven very heavy on tessellation

and it goes on until today

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 27 2015, 11:49 PM)
How much? I've been looking around, no price details.

I got it assembled finally and my goodness it's just too much a hassle.

I had to mount the fan outside. sad.gif I would've mounted the radiator outside but it's designed to be L shaped same direction as the tube connection.

Only option is to have fan placed outside.

The mounting screws provided on the unit (holding the fan to radiator) is not long enough and I had to use the ones from Cooler Master's AIO unit to get it mounted.
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saw your fb pic. just wondering, can we actually change the AIO to other brand? hmm.gif
and leave the gpu uncover with the top cover/plate?
since the gpu itself doesn't have any fan running inside.

that CM rad is really a huge piece especially with its top part that stick out some area.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 27 2015, 09:28 PM)
It depends, SLI quad doesn't necessary good in giving high min fps too. XDMA crossfire had usually been a better multicard technology than SLI until Nvidia update the SLI in the future.
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problem is AMD a bit slow on update.. now is like waiting see if there any improvement on driver update for their flagship.. well amd driver always mature better than it's competitor, but what disappointing Fury X it's oc capability.. come on 1,125Mhz.. i could not get higher without crash benchmark and i have to sign out/in to recover from the mouse point disappear.. x
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 06:32 AM)
problem is AMD a bit slow on update..  now is like waiting see if there any improvement on driver update for their flagship.. well amd driver always mature better than it's competitor,  but what disappointing Fury X it's  oc capability..  come on 1,125Mhz..  i could not get higher without crash benchmark and i have to sign out/in to recover from the mouse point disappear.. x
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I think I oredi predict earlier that the thing sure OC like a lame duck laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 06:32 AM)
problem is AMD a bit slow on update..  now is like waiting see if there any improvement on driver update for their flagship.. well amd driver always mature better than it's competitor,  but what disappointing Fury X it's  oc capability..  come on 1,125Mhz..  i could not get higher without crash benchmark and i have to sign out/in to recover from the mouse point disappear.. x
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lol brah is it true they accuse you cheating with the heaven benchmark score ?

I don't think you did . So many drama lol just for a damn card , I even accidentally created argument for AA needed at 4k
Which to me is subjective to the eye of beholder , yes there is jaggies if you nitpick but its not that in your face kind .
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 28 2015, 06:36 AM)
I think I oredi predict earlier that the thing sure OC like a lame duck laugh.gif
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oh come on still earlier... give AMD some chance! maybe there be a Omega II biggrin.gif and not lame duck oki.. it's Fury X Duck!

QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 28 2015, 06:40 AM)
lol brah is it true they accuse you cheating with the heaven benchmark score ?

I don't think you did . So many drama lol just for a damn card , I even accidentally created argument for AA needed at 4k
Which to me is subjective to the eye of beholder , yes there is jaggies if you nitpick but its not that in your face kind .
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haha.. look Nvidia have Edge over AMD on Tessellation.. BUT is not consider that as a Cheating/enhancement... but part Nvidia GTX Capability.. but what AMD Gpu have a ability to tweak it's Tessellation... so why not too keep it fair on compete with number.. i don't see it as cheating.. is just Uniegine benchmark top number don't get anything out of it.. but i do apologies if this offended "Elite" i remove it.. and no matter what re-bench i do on the heaven bench not satisfied him.. and from time to time he come back with personal attack.. '

i'm using 4K 60hz.. play game i don't look for jaggies .. just to enjoy gameplay meanwhile Graphic.. eh is just a lovely thing to see not soo focus on jaggies.. i'm four eye my eye already sux to go look for jaggies.. turn AA on 4k, but like you say subjective.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 28 2015, 12:06 AM)
in a nutshell,

>cstkl1 is unhappy that johor foo is not displaying real performance scores as per standard
>asks johor foo to rebench
>johor foo doesnt want
>cstkl1 deems it as being untruthful to the scores as AMD doesnt do well in tessellation, with Unigine Heaven very heavy on tessellation

and it goes on until today
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sorry.. that rude fellow been rude to other Lyn,before me.. i remove the bench score.. im32 yo no time to go pity gpu score argument.. with 34 yo elite .. and i'm Kelantan not Johor (where i work) so not fair calling Johor foo.. kinda insult wrong ppl icon_rolleyes.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/686356/all
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oh come on still earlier... give AMD some chance! maybe there be a Omega II  biggrin.gif  and not lame duck oki.. it's Fury X Duck!
haha.. look Nvidia have Edge over AMD on Tessellation.. BUT is not consider that as a Cheating/enhancement... but part Nvidia GTX Capability.. but what AMD Gpu have a ability to tweak it's  Tessellation...  so why not too keep it fair on compete with number.. i don't see it as cheating.. is just Uniegine benchmark top number don't get anything out of it..  but i do apologies if this offended "Elite" i remove it..  and no matter what re-bench i do on the heaven bench not satisfied him.. and from time to time he come back with personal attack.. '

i'm using 4K 60hz.. play game i don't look for jaggies .. just to enjoy gameplay meanwhile Graphic.. eh is just a lovely thing to see not soo focus on jaggies.. i'm four eye my eye already sux  to go look for jaggies.. turn AA on 4k, but like you say subjective..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Current OC max is around 100 mhz tops. It's probably a combination of hot spots and clock skew.

A further improvement of the process will probably yield an extra 50 to 75 mHz tops. They'll need to optimize their layout/logic placement and then couple it with a process improvement before it yields anything.

AMD is banking on the fact that developers will catch on to the Fury after programming for next gen consoles with similar GCN architecture. But my bet is that like the R520, improvements won't show till the next gen comes in as programmers take time to react to change and develop better strategies for optimization.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 28 2015, 07:14 AM)
Current OC max is around 100 mhz tops. It's probably a combination of hot spots and clock skew.

A further improvement of the process will probably yield an extra 50 to 75 mHz tops. They'll need to optimize their layout/logic placement and then couple it with a process improvement before it yields anything.

AMD is banking on the fact that developers will catch on to the Fury after programming for next gen consoles with similar GCN architecture. But my bet is that like the R520, improvements won't show till the next gen comes in as programmers take time to react to change and develop better strategies for optimization.
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right... okay eh you wanna buy Fury X, im putting it on sale soon... i manage to get stable 75Mhz.. on benchmark and gaming.. but Temps is 50C during this load.. idle under 30C and is silent.. feel strange for AMD gpu.. lolx

so will there be magic driver to improve this gpu.. ?? or AMD waiting for Dx12 to boost or give edge towards their competitor..
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 07:26 AM)
right...  okay eh you wanna buy Fury X, im putting it on sale soon...  i manage to get stable 75Mhz.. on benchmark and gaming..  but Temps is 50C during this load.. idle under 30C and is silent.. feel strange for AMD gpu.. lolx

so will there be magic driver to improve this gpu.. ??  or AMD waiting for Dx12 to boost or give edge towards their competitor..
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wtf you just purchased it and now looking to sell it ? Buying gpu like buying food
hehehe first thirds world problem. But honestly if you get a replacement gpu might as well get the gigabyte g1 gaming 980 ti that thing overclock like beast

On that note your fury x yield great temp why not keep it who knows in the future the driver would increase the performance which is wishful thinking for amd hehehe . Also the no stock for this card might cause a price hike unless nvidia pull a sucker punch for price drop for 980 ti
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 28 2015, 08:01 AM)
wtf you just purchased it and now looking to sell it ? Buying gpu like buying food
hehehe first thirds world problem. But honestly if you get a replacement gpu might as well get the gigabyte g1 gaming 980 ti that thing overclock like beast

On that note your fury x yield great temp why not keep it who knows in the future the driver would increase the performance which is wishful thinking for amd hehehe . Also the no stock for this card might cause a price hike unless nvidia pull a sucker punch for price drop for 980 ti
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oh if i wait longer AMD Gpu get their value lower... well i don't want to sell now.. maybe in future.. when first hawai out i buy their reference gpu.. enjoy Turbo sound effect.. biggrin.gif maybe i wait Gpu HBM2 next year.

wooh is true.. AMD gpu get better with time... Nvidia lower price.. eh too proud to do so.. ehe saw this effect their fan too. icon_rolleyes.gif
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right...  okay eh you wanna buy Fury X, im putting it on sale soon...  i manage to get stable 75Mhz.. on benchmark and gaming..  but Temps is 50C during this load.. idle under 30C and is silent.. feel strange for AMD gpu.. lolx

so will there be magic driver to improve this gpu.. ??  or AMD waiting for Dx12 to boost or give edge towards their competitor..
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I don't mind buying it, because I want my next rig for my next offshore job, so my GC must be small laugh.gif

There will be a driver which will probably improve things to parity (5 percent boost here and there). Either way AMD have looked to DX12 for improvement, the subtle notes are there, HBM, XDMA over PCI-E, Mantle and so on keep pointing to a future that isn't here yet, but surely will come.

I'm going to put my money on saying that the once the single die process is combined with a node improvement and logic optimizations, AMD will hit NVidia's Pascal really hard and in the balls.
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I don't mind buying it, because I want my next rig for my next offshore job, so my GC must be small laugh.gif

There will be a driver which will probably improve things to parity (5 percent boost here and there). Either way AMD have looked to DX12 for improvement, the subtle notes are there, HBM, XDMA over PCI-E, Mantle and so on keep pointing to a future that isn't here yet, but surely will come.

I'm going to put my money on saying that the once the single die process is combined with a node improvement and logic optimizations, AMD will hit NVidia's Pascal really hard and in the balls.
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get yourself R9 Nano.. your in US get it much better price than what selling in other country.

to be honest.. i am good with my 4K gaming right now.. with Fury X (playing Witcher3/ Dawn of War II) it's just painful too see the score in 3dmark low lolx arrgh!

that's long way to go.. Nvidia seem to be able overcome it's competitor very well.. and their supporter no issues paying for extra fps.. thumbup.gif
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sorry..  that rude fellow been rude to other Lyn,before me.. i remove the bench score.. im32 yo no time to go pity gpu score argument.. with 34 yo elite .. and i'm Kelantan not Johor (where i work) so not fair calling Johor foo.. kinda insult wrong ppl  icon_rolleyes.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/686356/all
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that keyboard elite warrior is insulting johorian.. ask that dude come over here. let do the benchmark score together. just a benchmark. 4k turn on AA is LPPL. no single gpu can handle 4k with everything max ultra + turn on every AA thang. 1440p also susah. 4k need at least dual gpu only can see abit.

sry bro, face problem. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 28 2015, 09:47 AM)
that keyboard elite warrior is insulting johorian.. ask that dude come over here. let do the benchmark score together. just a benchmark. 4k turn on AA is LPPL. no single gpu can handle 4k with everything max ultra + turn on every AA thang. 1440p also susah. 4k need at least dual gpu only can see abit.

sry bro, face problem. laugh.gif
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not johorian... only working there. No, not interested in meeting rude person. i play 4K i don't need to turn AA i can enjoy gaming without focus on Jaggies.. and on 4K is barely noticeable ( my opinion)

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Perfect example of the situation in this country.

Malaysia tolerance with stupidity. Correcting that is called rude. I guess stupid ppl really thickface until they cant see it. The lies they spout seems the truth to them.

Condude just admitted lieing atleast this time he was straightforward compared to the last. Last timd he said that was amd default. World record holder beat ln2 on air.

Other dude forgot last debate already called him out.
I dont hide behind the net. Phone number out in the open.

Anyway this is getting out of hand when others are tolerating lies after lies these ppl are posting. So no point even posting any fact. Doubt they even understood a thing empire23 post



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How much? I've been looking around, no price details.

I got it assembled finally and my goodness it's just too much a hassle.

I had to mount the fan outside. sad.gif I would've mounted the radiator outside but it's designed to be L shaped same direction as the tube connection.

Only option is to have fan placed outside.

The mounting screws provided on the unit (holding the fan to radiator) is not long enough and I had to use the ones from Cooler Master's AIO unit to get it mounted.
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cstkl1 you have history been rude on Lyn past rude complaint.. i never claim to be expert.. i adjust overdrive/texture detail override/ tessellation override and i bench if not crash i got score i post...

add-on: you call me Johor foo" Scammer" future scammer" lolx why your past is free from scam.. ppl hardware.. ?? doh.gif because im not expert and post on this threads im stupid.. eh right your correcting...

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 28 2015, 10:46 AM)
Perfect example of the situation in this country.

Malaysia tolerance with stupidity. Correcting that is called rude. I guess stupid ppl really thickface until they cant see it. The lies they spout seems the truth to them.

Condude just admitted lieing atleast this time he was straightforward compared to the last. Last timd he said that was amd default. World record holder beat ln2 on air.

Other dude forgot last debate already called him out.
I dont hide behind the net. Phone number out in the open.

Anyway this is getting out of hand when others are tolerating lies after lies these ppl are posting. So no point even posting any fact. Doubt they even understood a thing empire23 post
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I hope one day you will learn to be respectful towards others though based on past history doesnt seem to be so .


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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 11:16 AM)
Kavin Lawrence you have history been rude on Lyn past rude complaint..  i never claim to be expert.. i adjust overdrive/texture detail override/ tessellation override and i bench if not crash i got score i post...

add-on: you call me Johor foo" Scammer" future scammer" lolx  why your past is free from scam.. ppl hardware.. ??  doh.gif  because im not expert and post on this threads im stupid.. eh right your correcting...
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Funny you dont even know the story. But fair i served a ban.
Life has thought me much with me burying my only son. A father should nvr live a day to see it.

Y change of tune?? So ure saying you did lie last time feigning ignorance n calling me a liar. You guys seem to leave out important infos.

QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 28 2015, 11:27 AM)
just because you are right doesn't mean you can insult people . Learn to be humble , I know you looks down on those people especially in the fb  malaysia pc gaming group
I hope one day you will learn to be respectful towards others though based on past history doesnt seem to be so .
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Yeah right. You guys post lies. All fun and all

Lets be clear on ure definition of rude
You find it rude when somebody corrects wrong info that can influence future buyers. To you that is a insult. So you want a coddling remark. Ure case was the 4k hdtv gaming with a 980ti.

Show me a post that i post something i nvr tested myself.

I have helped more ppl than u know. I love the community n not a one post wonder.

Anyway seriously you guys change tune as it suits yourself.
No point me being here.


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eh firstly.. sorry of what you have to go true.. my condolence (sincerely)
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and i did not call you liar.. you call me.. i was .. noob did not know i can't mod the overide option on menu option gpu to get better score.. i thought as long is not crash i okay.. sorry.. i did say this before "sorry if it offended you" i'm noob im here to gain knowledge on how to oc and solve pc thing.. this is not my strength..
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 28 2015, 11:48 AM)
Funny you dont even know the story. But fair i served a ban.
Life has thought me much with me burying my only son. A father should nvr live a day to see it.

Y change of tune?? So ure saying you did lie last time feigning ignorance n calling me a liar. You guys seem to leave out important infos.
Yeah right. You guys post lies. All fun and all

Lets be clear on ure definition of rude
You find it rude when somebody corrects wrong info that can influence future buyers. To you that is a insult. So you want a coddling remark. Ure case was the 4k hdtv gaming with a 980ti.

Show me a post that i post something i nvr tested myself.

I have helped more ppl than u know. I love the community n not a one post wonder.

Anyway seriously you guys change tune as it suits yourself.
No point me being here.
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I'm not talking about my case . I'm referring to the slur that you made towards unseen83 , there is no doubt about you have the technical knowledge
and give points with facts . The only thing I find disturbing is the name calling that was uncalled for

You could just request politely to him but no ....

Enough of this drama back to the topic for AMD Radeon Discussion please

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I'm not talking about my case . I'm referring to the slur that you made towards unseen83 , there is no doubt about you have the technical knowledge
and give points with facts . The only thing I find disturbing is the name calling that was uncalled for

You could just request politely to him but no ....
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bro just leave it.. is my fault i don't understand.. too eager to post.. and not think of the Elder on Lyn..
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:01 PM)
eh firstly.. sorry of what you have to go true.. my condolence (sincerely)
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and i did not call you liar.. you call me.. i was .. noob did not know i can't mod the overide option on menu option gpu to get better score.. i thought as long is not crash i okay.. sorry.. i did say this before "sorry if it offended you"  i'm noob im here to gain knowledge on how to oc and solve pc thing..  this is not my strength..
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Argghh ok sorry. Maybe too personal

QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 28 2015, 12:01 PM)
I'm not talking about my case . I'm referring to the slur that you made towards unseen83 , there is no doubt about you have the technical knowledge
and give points with facts . The only thing I find disturbing is the name calling that was uncalled for

You could just request politely to him but no ....
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Dude. Nothing technical about me and him. Perfect example of half ass posting without knowing the history.

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Please clean the thread. Sorry bro.

Hope to see u there on the 11th

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Kinda hard getting a used r9 290 now..damn the prices arent going down as fast as i want

On the other hand triple a title batman has been pulled off! Any idea if its going to be fixed and redeployed or they are just going to dump pc gamers?
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:08 PM)
Kinda hard getting a used r9 290 now..damn the prices arent going down as fast as i want

On the other hand triple a title batman has been pulled off! Any idea if its going to be fixed and redeployed or they are just going to dump pc gamers?
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might due to the new series pricing is not touching those r290 series 2nd hand pricing. and most seems no point upgrading to r390x if you have 290s unless gunning for Fury series smile.gif

for batman, i dont think any1 have idea except those dev. best is to wait for redeploy since there are working on it. (i hope they port from ground up instead of fixing the current port).
Hold your gun as i believe you still have alot of backlog.....(who doesn't whistling.gif laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:08 PM)
Kinda hard getting a used r9 290 now..damn the prices arent going down as fast as i want

On the other hand triple a title batman has been pulled off! Any idea if its going to be fixed and redeployed or they are just going to dump pc gamers?
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to be honest I don't really see any issues with the new batman game . Yes , there are minor stutters but not that frequent other than that the game plays great
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:08 PM)
Kinda hard getting a used r9 290 now..damn the prices arent going down as fast as i want

On the other hand triple a title batman has been pulled off! Any idea if its going to be fixed and redeployed or they are just going to dump pc gamers?
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what your budget for used R9 290 ? i got on sale i think is lowest... Trix is sold as minute i open threads.. x only Vapor X but look for Trix r9 290.. i saw on sale RM800-850

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did u manage to buy batman before it was pull steam ?
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:15 PM)
might due to the new series pricing is not touching those r290 series 2nd hand pricing. and most seems no point upgrading to r390x if you have 290s unless gunning for Fury series  smile.gif

for batman, i dont think any1 have idea except those dev. best is to wait for redeploy since there are working on it. (i hope they port from ground up instead of fixing the current port).
Hold your gun as i believe you still have alot of backlog.....(who doesn't  whistling.gif  laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 28 2015, 12:15 PM)
to be honest I don't really see any issues with the new batman game . Yes , there are minor stutters but not that frequent other than that the game plays great
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Well since Batman has been pulled off, i can still wait to purchase R9 290 till its redeployed..on the other hand, dang that Asus GTX 970 Turbo is a fine ass white looking card..off topic tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:19 PM)
what your budget for used R9 290 ? i got on sale i think is lowest... Trix is sold as minute i open threads.. x only Vapor X but look for Trix r9 290..  i saw on sale RM800-850

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did u manage to buy batman before it was pull steam ?
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The best offer i got for used reference R9 290 was RM 650..but seller havent replied my messages so thats that

Typically i dont do pre sales pre order bullcrap..Its going to be half baked upon release..might as well wait for fall sales..or i could get it from my local game store
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:23 PM)
The best offer i got for used reference R9 290 was RM 650..but seller havent replied my messages so thats that

Typically i dont do pre sales pre order bullcrap..Its going to be half baked upon release..might as well wait for fall sales..or i could get it from my local game store
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if your going for Reference r9 290 please note that it is Loud Turbo v8 engine in that... unless your planing to add custom wc... by way what your current LCD Resolution ? PSU ?

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good for you.. well i order w3 day it got on sale tongue.gif lol turn out OKAY..
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:29 PM)
if your going for Reference r9 290 please note that it is Loud Turbo v8 engine in that...  unless your planing to add custom wc...  by way what your current LCD Resolution ? PSU ?

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good for you.. well i order w3 day it got on sale tongue.gif lol turn out OKAY..
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Well i dont mind the type of card..as long as the price is right..Im on 1080p thats good enough for me as I dont wanna burn tons of cash on more expensive cards just need a card that can get some AA on them

Price/perf is my sweet spot..was itching to get a GTX 970 after i saw that white Asus..but im not going to see real world difference at 1080p with a GTX 970 or R 9 290 so better i get the cheaper one
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:35 PM)
Well i dont mind the type of card..as long as the price is right..Im on 1080p thats good enough for me as I dont wanna burn tons of cash on more expensive cards just need a card that can get some AA on them

Price/perf is my sweet spot..was itching to get a GTX 970 after i saw that white Asus..but im not going to see real world difference at 1080p with a GTX 970 or  R 9 290 so better i get the cheaper one
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what your psu...

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what your psu...
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Currently using silverstone strider 500w..changing soon to fsp raider 650w
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purpose of changing it ? reason is cost.. why change it if you can get GTX 970 game with no issues on 1080p.. on 500W psu.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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So.. PowerColor is still alive in MY.

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So.. PowerColor is still alive in MY.

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i think she take it by herself from SG.. like Feiton(Rip) done previously, i think la.. i could be wrong..
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 28 2015, 12:52 PM)
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Yup,IdealTech are bringing it in too. nod.gif

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 28 2015, 01:09 PM)
Yup,IdealTech are bringing it in too. nod.gif

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This looks to be the cheapest R9 390X

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Mhmm,i think that's the cheapest so far.If people don't wanna pay RM300 more to get GTX980,there's the 390X.
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Skip to 2:00 for details about the card.


QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:58 PM)
i think she take it by herself from SG..  like Feiton(Rip) done previously, i think la..  i could be wrong..
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This looks to be the cheapest R9 390X

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powercolor do have cheapest price, i remember last time i almost bought powercolor 290 before idealtech bringing in the vapor-x.
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Take it to PM guys, those spoilers are meant for spoilers or huge ass pictures.
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I played Dying Light and Son of Rome on my cousin's computer with HD7790.

Oh man, I can't stand it lol, only managed 30-40 fps with lower settings at 1080p. Playing for 60fps for so long ruins me sad.gif
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I played Dying Light and Son of Rome on my cousin's computer with HD7790.

Oh man, I can't stand it lol, only managed 30-40 fps with lower settings at 1080p. Playing for 60fps for so long ruins me sad.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 27 2015, 09:33 PM)
RM 12k just for the graphic system.

That's the thing I like about the Fury X - the card is cooling so you can put them so close to one another and there won't be any heat issue.

It's short and takes up only 2 PCI-E slots so it fits perfectly.

Try running any other cards red or green camp with this setup, they'll be hot like silly.
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Are you comparing water-cooled with air-cooled?

I'm pretty sure most water GPU blocks take up 2 slots. No?
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 28 2015, 05:46 PM)
Are you comparing water-cooled with air-cooled? 

I'm pretty sure most water GPU blocks take up 2 slots. No?
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Fury x if wblock it will be single slot.

Gtx480 also last time.

It depends on the i/o connectivity.
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Update on Arkham Knights

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Rocksteady has released a list of things they are working on in an attempt to get Batman: Arkham Knight to a playable state.

Below is the list of the key areas where we are dedicating our resources to improve the experience for our loyal fans:

Support for frame rates above 30FPS in the graphics settings menu
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While we work on improving performance, we will also continue to make interim patches available to address issues for those still playing the game on PC. The first patch is being released now and the updates include:
Fixed a crash that was happening for some users when exiting the game
Fixed a bug which disabled rain effects and ambient occlusion. We are actively looking into fixing other bugs to improve this further
Corrected an issue that was causing Steam to re-download the game when verifying the integrity of the game cache through the Steam client
Fixed a bug that caused the game to crash when turning off Motion Blur in BmSystemSettings.ini. A future patch will enable this in the graphics settings menu
We would like to thank our fans for their patience and invaluable feedback. We will continue to monitor and listen for any additional issues.


http://www.hardocp.com/news/2015/06/27/upd...ht#.VY_Z-PmqpBc
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4K (Theif) R9 fury X Very High setting all switch on or very high..
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1440p Ultra AA High oc 1100mhz temp hit 60C.. ohmy.gif first time
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 07:33 PM)
4K (Theif) R9 fury X  Very High setting all switch on or very high..

4K (Tomb Raider) Ultimate setting all on
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You got Sniper Elite V3? Compare it with AMDMatt.

1440p Max out.
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Even his Fury X limited to 1125mhz. lel

Fury X Quadfire scaling in Sniper Elite V3. Same settings and resolution.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 07:33 PM)
4K (Theif) R9 fury X  Very High setting all switch on or very high..


4K (Tomb Raider) Ultimate setting all on

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bro requesting you to post up GTA V numbers if can
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
bro requesting you to post up GTA V numbers if can
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GTA V got built in bench ? .. i go check it out see if i can screen capture it. icon_rolleyes.gif

add-on: eh i found benchmark but how to screen capture it.. it go on bench than it restart the game unsure.gif

edit : Check goldfry he got it.. i gonna try shadow of mordor biggrin.gif

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Are you comparing water-cooled with air-cooled? 

I'm pretty sure most water GPU blocks take up 2 slots. No?
Was referring to the Fury X stock setup. 2 PCI-E slots.

I've since updated with a more recent post on my endeavor to install the Fury X on Mini ITX casing - it was a nightmare. sad.gif

Card small, correct BUT the cooling system takes up a lot of space

empire23 you saw my post? smile.gif Small setup, wait for NANO.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 28 2015, 08:56 PM)
Was referring to the Fury X stock setup. 2 PCI-E slots.

I've since updated with a more recent post on my endeavor to install the Fury X on Mini ITX casing - it was a nightmare. sad.gif

Card small, correct BUT the cooling system takes up a lot of space

empire23 you saw my post? smile.gif Small setup, wait for NANO.
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
bro requesting you to post up GTA V numbers if can
Numbers posted since last week, not here though. biggrin.gif

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...ic-card-review/


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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 08:53 PM)
GTA V got built in bench ? .. i go check it out see if i can screen capture it.  icon_rolleyes.gif

add-on: eh i found benchmark but how to screen capture it.. it go on bench than it restart the game unsure.gif

edit : Check goldfry he got it.. i gonna try shadow of mordor  biggrin.gif
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there is a log file generated in the save files u can pull the numbers from there

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 28 2015, 09:10 PM)
Numbers posted since last week, not here though. biggrin.gif

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...ic-card-review/
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fries, do you have 980Ti numbers as well? Fury is very slow even to a GTX 980 on 1080p
I screwed up in my GTX 980 Ti bench and the card left my lab already.

The thing I hate about GTA V is that the settings keep CHANGING.

You can set it to whatever you want but once the game detects a card of different specs, it will adjust to the setting that works best with the card.

In my case, the V-sync was enabled and I didn't realize so the speed was capped.

From my observation - the GTX 980 Ti wins hands down on GTA V results. Take what you have on GTX 980 and add 5% to 10%.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 28 2015, 09:19 PM)
I screwed up in my GTX 980 Ti bench and the card left my lab already.

The thing I hate about GTA V is that the settings keep CHANGING.

You can set it to whatever you want but once the game detects a card of different specs, it will adjust to the setting that works best with the card.

In my case, the V-sync was enabled and I didn't realize so the speed was capped.

From my observation - the GTX 980 Ti wins hands down on GTA V results. Take what you have on GTX 980 and add 5% to 10%.
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for the bolded part, was it for the Fury review or GTX 980Ti?
The weird thing is that the 8GB R9 390X was pretty much tied in GTA v to GTX 980 ~ based on guru3d's number hmm.gif
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 09:16 PM)
there is a log file generated in the save files u can pull the numbers from there

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where it safe ?
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 09:23 PM)
for the bolded part, was it for the Fury review or GTX 980Ti?
The weird thing is that the 8GB R9 390X was pretty much tied in GTA v to GTX 980 ~ based on guru3d's number  hmm.gif
Bolded part was for the GTX 980 Ti because you were asking for it. biggrin.gif

Yes, R9 390X 8GB scores quite well.

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...ic-card-review/

I'll be updating it with 4K numbers soon too, I had quite some hiccup getting the details.

The R9 390X 8GB scores when it comes to games that pushes VRAM.

Interesting card that's for sure. Great price to performance value considering it's priced around RM 1.8k++.

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 28 2015, 12:15 PM)
to be honest I don't really see any issues with the new batman game . Yes , there are minor stutters but not that frequent other than that the game plays great
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minor stutter hmm.gif , the game cant get past 30fps and editing the .ini file i could get 60fps but the dip is too huge below 30fps and this causes serious stutter. BTW im using a r9 290 . I tried for an hour to tweak the settings and no improvement could be seen. Requested a refund from steam seriously broken game im better off playing on my ps4 drool.gif

icon_idea.gif one more thing this game is so badly optimised it hogs VRAM like nobody business i saw usage up to 3.9gb, and the jaggies OMG is unacceptable mad.gif . Its a good game but rocksteady has tought me a lesson never to buy pre order games anymore vmad.gif

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where it safe ?
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C:\My Documents\Username\Rockstar Games\GTA V\Benchmarks

Something like that la.

There are 5 passes. You just average up the 5 passes will do.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 28 2015, 09:27 PM)

Interesting card that's for sure. Great price to performance value considering it's priced around RM 1.8k++.
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powercolor Rm1.7K brows.gif AMD R9 390X PCS+
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jun 28 2015, 08:21 PM)
bro requesting you to post up GTA V numbers if can
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eh is this it .. Attached File  Benchmark_15_06_28_21_08_44.txt ( 2.97k ) Number of downloads: 12

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 09:37 PM)
eh is this it .. Attached File  Benchmark_15_06_28_21_08_44.txt ( 2.97k ) Number of downloads: 12

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Yeah thats the one.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 28 2015, 09:28 PM)
C:\My Documents\Username\Rockstar Games\GTA V\Benchmarks

Something like that la.

There are 5 passes. You just average up the 5 passes will do.
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than X, you know date R9 nano coming into malaysia ? ? 1st july second batch r9 fury x coming into malaysia.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 28 2015, 09:43 PM)
than X,  you know date R9 nano coming into malaysia ? ?  1st july second batch r9 fury x coming into malaysia.
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how much do you think nano is going to be? a small package is surely what i need thumbup.gif
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how much do you think nano is going to be? a small package is surely what i need  thumbup.gif
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eh sorry i do not know.. but you want me do estimation.. sure tongue.gif look at this AMD R9 Nano is design for Mini-ITX-based PC, which consume less power equal to less heat(finger cross) and it also come with HBM memory... so if you Google price fastest currently GPU is design for Small form factor surely GTX 970 (small version) (i could be wrong.. is there gtx 980 small?), i think la.. price be same or a bit higher why? new HBM tech..

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add-on : 350USD to 450USD by way what your's prediction on price icon_rolleyes.gif ?

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 28 2015, 09:51 PM)
Yes correct.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 29 2015, 04:28 AM)
eh sorry i do not know.. but you want me do estimation..  sure tongue.gif look at this AMD R9 Nano is design for Mini-ITX-based PC, which consume less power equal to less heat(finger cross) and it also come with HBM memory...  so if you Google  price fastest currently GPU is design for Small form factor surely GTX 970 (small version) (i could be wrong.. is there gtx 980 small?), i think la.. price be same or a bit higher why? new HBM tech..

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add-on : 350USD to 450USD  by way what your's prediction on price  icon_rolleyes.gif  ?
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damn thats really small, plan to build a small form factor case, nano is the best GPU for that build thumbup.gif
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RM1759 for 390x seems tempting...powercolor.

Anyone found any better deal?
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 29 2015, 10:58 AM)
RM1759 for 390x seems tempting...powercolor.

Anyone found any better deal?
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where u see the deal ? cant find it at lelong
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Gtech solutions @ FB.
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 29 2015, 10:58 AM)
RM1759 for 390x seems tempting...powercolor.

Anyone found any better deal?
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What GPU are you using now?
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850W corsair.

EDIT: I misread. Haha. Currently using 7850. But I am contemplating whether to go for 390x or 390...the difference is minute.

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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 29 2015, 12:30 PM)
850W corsair.

EDIT: I misread. Haha. Currently using 7850. But I am contemplating whether to go for 390x or 390...the difference is minute.
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The 390 seems to outperform the 290X as well. I'd say a tie with the GTX 970 minus the power consumption
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 29 2015, 11:54 AM)
Gtech solutions @ FB.
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wait.. i thought rm1.7K with GST.. Powercolor R9 390X PCS+ (3 slot.. )
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 29 2015, 12:30 PM)
850W corsair.

EDIT: I misread. Haha. Currently using 7850. But I am contemplating whether to go for 390x or 390...the difference is minute.
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Whatever card you chose is going to be a huge upgrade over your current card. If you asked me I rather have full fledged GPU than a crippled one. I used 290 before I bought 290X, I notice that the 290X provide smoother gameplay.
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Thanks Najmod...that's what I'm thinking too.
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faidz85,i thought the price GTech Solutions listed is RM1699? tongue.gif

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Wrong person you tagged there. I can only think that the price is 1699 before GST. Best price after GST is RM1759.

For those who might be wondering, the price for the 390 is RM1335.
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Jun 29 2015, 04:40 PM)
Wrong person you tagged there. I can only think that the price is 1699 before GST. Best price after GST is RM1759.

For those who might be wondering, the price for the 390 is RM1335.
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Woops. laugh.gif

Eh,the price listed isn't inclusive of GST?
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I guess no.
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R9 390X vs GTX 980


R9 Fury X vs R9 390X

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unseen83 u really AMD fanboy sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 29 2015, 05:56 PM)

unseen83 u really AMD fanboy  sweat.gif
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MW Tech know to be bias, in favor Nvidia or against AMD product... here show GTX 960 faster than R9 280X



and ngkhanmein your Nvidia Fanboy... on my Car threads you mention about Nvidia.. lol and look post #207(this thread) area61 ask to reco gpu i ask what his psu/lcd res.. he say using 500w/1080p i reco him GTX 970... biggrin.gif Yes i buy AMD Gpu.. Yes i'm AMD Graphic Fan.. but i try not to be bias icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 29 2015, 06:26 PM)
MW Tech know to be bias, in favor Nvidia or against AMD product... here show GTX 960 faster than R9 280X



and ngkhanmein your Nvidia Fanboy...  on my Car threads you mention about Nvidia.. lol  and look post #207(this thread) area61 ask to reco gpu i ask what his psu/lcd res.. he say using 500w/1080p i reco him GTX 970...  biggrin.gif  Yes i buy AMD Gpu.. Yes  i'm AMD Graphic Fan.. but i try not to be bias  icon_rolleyes.gif
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aduh jgn mrh.. brows.gif

this guy more bias than me.



i really don't understand y he can't boot into the OS while his spec better than mine but loading OS sluggish like shit.. u guys got this issue??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 29 2015, 06:32 PM)
aduh jgn mrh..  brows.gif

this guy more bias than me.

i really don't understand y he can't boot into the OS while his spec better than mine but loading OS sluggish like shit.. u guys got this issue??? hmm.gif
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that guy need Nvidia gpu thumbup.gif no matter what.. if he install AMD gpu he run into unhappy issues.. so better Go green if you keep runing into issues with current Gpu.

Add-on: he come out new vid explain problem.. is because detected 2 driver and that's why... lol why don't he use DDU to do clean install... x

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 29 2015, 06:48 PM)
that guy need Nvidia gpu  thumbup.gif no matter what.. if he install AMD gpu he run into unhappy issues.. so better Go green if you keep runing into issues with current Gpu.
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Every time turning on the computer, try check if the catalyst control centre have the memory overclocking unlocked on the Fury X.
That's how the overclocker's forum said when they overclocked the HBM to 600Mhz. You can see if it works.
They said there's bug on the catalyst control centre, every few reboots of the computer the memory overclocking is there unlocked haha.
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Apparently GTech Solutions @ FB has edited their post regarding the price for the Powercolor 390/390x.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 29 2015, 07:22 PM)
Every time turning on the computer, try check if the catalyst control centre have the memory overclocking unlocked on the Fury X.
That's how the overclocker's forum said when they overclocked the HBM to 600Mhz. You can see if it works.
They said there's bug on the catalyst control centre, every few reboots of the computer the memory overclocking is there unlocked haha.
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got link please.. coz i can't see the option..

edit: http://techfrag.com/2015/06/29/hbm-on-r9-f...be-overclocked/

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 29 2015, 06:32 PM)
aduh jgn mrh..  brows.gif

this guy more bias than me.



i really don't understand y he can't boot into the OS while his spec better than mine but loading OS sluggish like shit.. u guys got this issue??? hmm.gif
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goldfries, did you have the same problem too?
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 29 2015, 06:32 PM)
aduh jgn mrh..  brows.gif

this guy more bias than me.



i really don't understand y he can't boot into the OS while his spec better than mine but loading OS sluggish like shit.. u guys got this issue??? hmm.gif
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Oh? Seem like the displayport blackscreen issue.
Quite famous with 290X and 290.
Recent vbios somehow fixed it.

But apparently, some AIBs dont get the memo about latest vbios, so AIBs still flashes the same initial old problematic vbios for the 390x and 390 (rebrand is a rebrand no matter amd tries to deny it).

EDIT: Sapphire and ASUS are confirmed to use the latest VBIOS for the 'rebranded' 390x and 390.



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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 30 2015, 12:31 AM)
goldfries, did you have the same problem too?
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Exactly the same thing, just that I probably went through more shit.

I lost many hours of sleep and benchmark / article time.

3 hours ah? I spent some 6 hours at least.

My rig works with R9 295X2 / R9 270X / R7 250 / R9 280X / GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti / GTX 970.

1st card. R9 390X. Screen goes crazy. Manage to benchmark with Beta 15.5. Stress test OK, Windows is where things go shitty. I didn't use the driver from the CD. 4K didn't work, black screen.

2nd Card. R9 390. Black screen. WTH.

OK fine. Not working. Changed CPU / MOBO / PSU / Drive / Install fresh and whatever - nope, not working.

Fine, got the R9 Fury X. Installed driver from CD because whatever on the AMD site doesn't work. OK done. Works flawlessly.

Tried the R9 390X now - Oh ok it works. Finally I get to bench it on 4K with no glitches.

Now tried R9 390 - same shit. Arggh. Downgrade drivers / Upgrade drivers, nope didn't work.

R7 370. Absolutely no problem.

Final thoughts - AMD released quite some shitty stuff, I don't even know how to write about it. I didn't do any video like what he did because I am not a good presenter and I thought it could be a faulty card.

My last encounter was just 2 hours ago, tried the R9 390 - black screen.

Decided to install drivers from the box, booted with my R7 250. Installed the drivers and switched card.

This time the card reaches Windows 8.1 but the screen goes black once drivers loaded.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 30 2015, 01:27 AM)
EDIT: Sapphire and ASUS are confirmed to use the latest VBIOS for the 'rebranded' 390x and 390.
Yeah right, I lost so much time because of the R9 390X and R9 390.

Fury X and R7 370 no issues, straight forward working all the way. No hiccups.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 30 2015, 01:41 AM)
Yeah right, I lost so much time because of the R9 390X and R9 390.

Fury X and R7 370 no issues, straight forward working all the way. No hiccups.
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Black screen issue is not something new for Hawaii, my prime suspect for it is the memory controller because for some odd reason it's very sensitive to core voltage. My previous MSI TwinFrozr 290 gave me headache where I can't even undervolt more than 12mV without it getting black screened, my current 290X is more stable, undervolt 37mV no problem at all (both at it's factory clockspeed). On 390/X where they boosted the memory by 1GHz more than 290/X it's not going to be pretty. When I overclocked my card to 390X speeds, some time it worked with 38mV voltage increase, some other time it black screened and need 50mV to be stable.
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eh when hapen to me on my r9 290x i just change hdmi/display wired, DDU to reinstall driver..
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 30 2015, 01:40 AM)
Exactly the same thing, just that I probably went through more shit.

I lost many hours of sleep and benchmark / article time.

3 hours ah? I spent some 6 hours at least.

My rig works with R9 295X2 / R9 270X / R7 250 / R9 280X / GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti / GTX 970.

1st card. R9 390X. Screen goes crazy. Manage to benchmark with Beta 15.5. Stress test OK, Windows is where things go shitty. I didn't use the driver from the CD. 4K didn't work, black screen.

2nd Card. R9 390. Black screen. WTH.

OK fine. Not working. Changed CPU / MOBO / PSU / Drive / Install fresh and whatever - nope, not working.

Fine, got the R9 Fury X. Installed driver from CD because whatever on the AMD site doesn't work. OK done. Works flawlessly.

Tried the R9 390X now - Oh ok it works. Finally I get to bench it on 4K with no glitches.

Now tried R9 390 - same shit. Arggh. Downgrade drivers / Upgrade drivers, nope didn't work.

R7 370. Absolutely no problem.

Final thoughts - AMD released quite some shitty stuff, I don't even know how to write about it. I didn't do any video like what he did because I am not a good presenter and I thought it could be a faulty card.

My last encounter was just 2 hours ago, tried the R9 390 - black screen.

Decided to install drivers from the box, booted with my R7 250. Installed the drivers and switched card.

This time the card reaches Windows 8.1 but the screen goes black once drivers loaded.
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Eew...did they not test the card before packaging? Yours is Sapphire right?

QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 30 2015, 05:47 AM)
Black screen issue is not something new for Hawaii, my prime suspect for it is the memory controller because for some odd reason it's very sensitive to core voltage. My previous MSI TwinFrozr 290 gave me headache where I can't even undervolt more than 12mV without it getting black screened, my current 290X is more stable, undervolt 37mV no problem at all (both at it's factory clockspeed). On 390/X where they boosted the memory by 1GHz more than 290/X it's not going to be pretty. When I overclocked my card to 390X speeds, some time it worked with 38mV voltage increase, some other time it black screened and need 50mV to be stable.
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That's suck. I'm lucky because my cards don't have black screen problem, either with hdmi or dp. If your card have problem with +38mV, did your card unable to overclock at all?
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Yeah right, I lost so much time because of the R9 390X and R9 390.

Fury X and R7 370 no issues, straight forward working all the way. No hiccups.
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sweat.gif Which AIB brand of 390x/290x and 390/290 that have problem in your case?

Edit: In case if you guys want to know, the beta VBIOS update from Sapphire disables the VRAM powertune functionality(only two vram power states) as well increasing a little bit voltage to GPU core and VRAM. GPU powertune is retained.

In ASUS vbios though.......asus decided to disable powertune functionality for both gpu core and VRAM in addition to slight increase in voltage for gpu + vram.

AMD actually knows about this issue, which is why the driver automatically load the "fix" once it is installed. But how the hell people install the driver if they can't get pass the black screen in first place. Not many know how to enable integrated GPU in order to install the discrete gpu driver. Those with AMD FX processors are screwed because the fx series doesnt have IGPU.

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 30 2015, 11:07 AM)
sweat.gif  Which AIB brand of 390x/290x and 390/290 that have problem in your case?

Edit: In case if you guys want to know, the beta VBIOS update from Sapphire disables the VRAM powertune functionality(only two vram power states) as well increasing a little bit voltage to GPU core and VRAM. GPU powertune is retained.

In ASUS vbios though.......asus decided to disable powertune functionality for both gpu core and VRAM in addition to slight increase in voltage for gpu + vram.

AMD actually knows about this issue, which is why the driver automatically load the "fix" once it is installed. But how the hell people install the driver if they can't get pass the black screen in first place. Not many know how to enable integrated GPU in order to install the discrete gpu driver. Those with AMD FX processors are screwed because the fx series doesnt have IGPU.
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I had a blackscreen issue too, turns out the problem is my PSU, changed to seasonic and never blackscreened anymore.

Now I can run my card at 1100Mhz core and 1500Mhz memory with only +31mV smile.gif

With the newer Sapphire BIOS for the tri-X 290, opening the Afterburner will reports that the voltage auto configured to +25mV.

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I had a blackscreen issue too, turns out the problem is my PSU, changed to seasonic and never blackscreened anymore.

Now I can run my card at 1100Mhz core and 1500Mhz memory with only +31mV smile.gif

With the newer Sapphire BIOS for the tri-X 290, opening the Afterburner will reports that the voltage auto configured to +25mV.
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Unclean power from PSU? The VRMs at the GPU ought to filter its out........ hmm.gif

In any case, this is AMD fault in the first place. AMD doesnt even officially 'recognize' the issue for the 290x and 290 is related to voltage issue.
AMD did acknowledge the issue by claiming it is fixable by driver and yes, it did.......

The core problem is the VRAM controller and GPU core voltages stored at vbios.

Yet, AMD still insist on saying 390x/390 isnt a rebrand while mentioning the stuff on new power management µarchitecture.
At least for 390x/390 series, amd is trying to push the updated new power management µarchitecture vbios to AIBs.
As I said, too bad some AIBs 'don't get the memo' doh.gif about it.


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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 30 2015, 05:47 AM)
Black screen issue is not something new for Hawaii, my prime suspect for it is the memory controller because for some odd reason it's very sensitive to core voltage. My previous MSI TwinFrozr 290 gave me headache where I can't even undervolt more than 12mV without it getting black screened, my current 290X is more stable, undervolt 37mV no problem at all (both at it's factory clockspeed). On 390/X where they boosted the memory by 1GHz more than 290/X it's not going to be pretty. When I overclocked my card to 390X speeds, some time it worked with 38mV voltage increase, some other time it black screened and need 50mV to be stable.
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For Hawaii, memory voltage is tied/related to core voltage.
My card is stable at 1030/1250 stock clock with -67mV but the moment i increase the memory clock to >1300mhz, i get instant black screen. If i used the card default +13mV, i have no trouble increasing the memory to 1550mhz.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 30 2015, 10:55 AM)
Eew...did they not test the card before packaging? Yours is Sapphire right?
That's suck. I'm lucky because my cards don't have black screen problem, either with hdmi or dp. If your card have problem with +38mV, did your card unable to overclock at all?
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No, what I mean is it needs that voltage to reach 390X speeds. I can overclock the card without voltage increase, around 1070 for core and 1400 memory. Havent tested much because I only do benching. When gaming I underclock and undervolt.
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For Hawaii, memory voltage is tied/related to core voltage.
My card is stable at 1030/1250 stock clock with -67mV but the moment i increase the memory clock to >1300mhz, i get instant black screen. If i used the card default +13mV, i have no trouble increasing the memory to 1550mhz.
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Correct me if im wrong. Was talking with friend and below topic comes out.

His power supply 850 watts.

He said choose nvdia will saves power.

But no matter you choose which card, your power input/consumption is 850 watts.

Am i right ?
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 30 2015, 11:33 AM)
In any case, this is AMD fault in the first place. AMD doesnt even officially 'recognize' the issue for the 290x and 290 is related to voltage issue.
AMD did acknowledge the issue by claiming it is fixable by driver and yes, it did.......
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The problem is not all black screens are fixable with voltage. Some people unable to fix the black screen with voltage but increasing power limit did fixed the black screen for them. Some cards not fixable at all & RMA is the only choice. There's no one solution worked for all. Also not to forget there's many cards don't have black screen problem at all. The 390/390X black screen a bit different, more towards to buggy BIOS.

QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 30 2015, 11:52 AM)
No, what I mean is it needs that voltage to reach 390X speeds. I can overclock the card without voltage increase, around 1070 for core and 1400 memory. Havent tested much because I only do benching. When gaming I underclock and undervolt.
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I meant overclock with overvoltage of course. So yours basically can't overclock when overvoltage? Or at least not stable. Yeah, this is not strange though because I read a couple of guys having black screen issue when overclocking past certain voltage.
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 12:31 PM)
Correct me if im wrong. Was talking with friend and below topic comes out.

His power supply 850 watts.

He said choose nvdia will saves power.

But no matter you choose which card, your power input/consumption is 850 watts.

Am i right ?
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Nah, the PSU only supply the amount of power needed by your computer hardware. The "850W" is the maximum rated power the PSU can supply, not the amount of power the PSU will supply all the time. Basically, for example if the components in your computer only need 400W, then the PSU will supply 400W.

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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 12:31 PM)
Correct me if im wrong. Was talking with friend and below topic comes out.

His power supply 850 watts.

He said choose nvdia will saves power.

But no matter you choose which card, your power input/consumption is 850 watts.

Am i right ?
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Incorrect - the PSU will only supplies the required power. In fact, lower power consumption often leads to better longevity due to less load on the PSU. icon_idea.gif
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hello, here he explain he FOUND issues.. is driver, if previously you have R9 200 series and install R9 300 series conflict will crash Gpu/black screen... DDU safe the day.. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 30 2015, 12:32 PM)
I meant overclock with overvoltage of course. So yours basically can't overclock when overvoltage? Or at least not stable. Yeah, this is not strange though because I read a couple of guys having black screen issue when overclocking past certain voltage.
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It can overclock when overvoltage its just sometimes it needs more, sometime less, at the same clock. Perhaps its because the temperature of the card, or my PSU is lacking.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 30 2015, 12:35 PM)
Nah, the PSU only supply the amount of power needed by your computer hardware. The "850W" is the maximum rated power the PSU can supply, not the amount of power the PSU will supply all the time. Basically, for example if the components in your computer only need 400W, then the PSU will supply 400W.
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jun 30 2015, 12:35 PM)
Incorrect - the PSU will only supplies the required power.  In fact, lower power consumption often leads to better longevity due to less load on the PSU. icon_idea.gif
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One of my friend said (Electronic background)

How to explain this bill (bill price is dummy data) :

850W PS --> Use 250W ---> Bill is RM 400

500W PS --> use 250W ---> Bill is RM 250

Note : Please ignore other household appliance. We are doing comparison.




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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 01:19 PM)
One of my friend said (Electronic background)

How to explain this bill (bill price is dummy data) :

850W PS --> Use 250W ---> Bill is RM 400

500W PS --> use 250W ---> Bill is RM 250

Note : Please ignore other household appliance. We are doing comparison.
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It's like this, if both have the same efficiency of 90% then:

850W PS ---> Use 250W ---> 250W divide by 0.9 = 278W from the wall plug @ 12.5 cents per hour (assuming 45 cents per kWh)
500W PS ---> Use 250W ---> 250W divide by 0.9 = 278W from the wall plug @ 12.5 cents per hour (assuming 45 cents per kWh)

It's the same wink.gif

The advantage of 850W PS is it can output more wattage than 500W unit.
How efficient is the power supply depends on how the power supply was built and what rating is has. 80+ Platinum, Gold etc and how it handles on varying temperature. You also have to take into account how efficient the power supply is when handling low power draws.
For example, The 80 Plus Gold standard requires 90% efficiency at 50% of rated load, and 87% efficiency at both 20% load and full rated load. So that means that if the 850W power supply is gold rated standard, it can deliver 87% efficiency from 170W onwards.

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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 01:19 PM)
One of my friend said (Electronic background)

How to explain this bill (bill price is dummy data) :

850W PS --> Use 250W ---> Bill is RM 400

500W PS --> use 250W ---> Bill is RM 250

Note : Please ignore other household appliance. We are doing comparison.
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You need to know the amount of watts pulling from the wall. From the data above, I can conclude that the first bill higher because the amount of watts pull from the wall is higher than the second bill. During conversion (Power supplies convert one voltage to another), some energy will be wasted as heat. It's about efficiency. Efficiency describes just how much energy is lost as heat. Higher efficiency means less waste. The 850W PSU in the above example have pretty bad efficiency.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 30 2015, 01:36 PM)
It's like this, if both have the same efficiency of 90% then:

850W PS ---> Use 250W ---> 250W divide by 0.9 = 278W from the wall plug @ 12.5 cents per hour (assuming 45 cents per kWh)
500W PS ---> Use 250W ---> 250W divide by 0.9 = 278W from the wall plug @ 12.5 cents per hour (assuming 45 cents per kWh)

It's the same  wink.gif

The advantage of 850W PS is it can output more wattage than 500W unit.
How efficient is the power supply depends on how the power supply was built and what rating is has. 80+ Platinum, Gold etc and how it handles on varying temperature. You also have to take into account how efficient the power supply is when handling low power draws.
For example, The 80 Plus Gold standard requires 90% efficiency at 50% of rated load, and 87% efficiency at both 20% load and full rated load. So that means that if the 850W power supply is gold rated standard, it can deliver 87% efficiency from 170W onwards.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 30 2015, 01:54 PM)
You need to know the amount of watts pulling from the wall. From the data above, I can conclude that the first bill higher because the amount of watts pull from the wall is higher than the second bill. During conversion (Power supplies convert one voltage to another), some energy will be wasted as heat. It's about efficiency. Efficiency describes just how much energy is lost as heat. Higher efficiency means less waste. The 850W PSU in the above example have pretty bad efficiency.
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But haven't answer me if the consumption is same, why difference in bill ?
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But haven't answer me if the consumption is same, why difference in bill ?
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The 250W is the amount of watts output by the PSU. You forgot the amount of watts pulled from the wall to generate that 250W for the computer components. Power utility company bill you based on the amount of watts pulled from the wall.

For example, let say the 500W PSU have 80% efficiency rating & the 850W PSU have 60% efficiency rating. Which mean:-

850W PSU (watts pulling from the wall) = 250W / 60% = ~417W

500W PSU (watts pulling from the wall) = 250W / 80% = ~312.5W

Above example explained why the bill with 850W PSU is higher than the 500W PSU.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 30 2015, 02:26 PM)
The 250W is the amount of watts output by the PSU. You forgot the amount of watts pulled from the wall to generate that 250W for the computer components. Power utility company bill you based on the amount of watts pulled from the wall.

For example, let say the 500W PSU have 80% efficiency rating & the 850W PSU have 60% efficiency rating. Which mean:-

850W PSU (watts pulling from the wall) = 250W / 60% = ~417W

500W PSU (watts pulling from the wall) = 250W / 80% = ~312.5W

Above example explained why the bill with 850W PSU is higher than the 500W PSU.
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The best freesync monitor that you can buy now. RM2699 at compuzone. But not the best gaming monitor yet, as the VRR window is 35-90hz.
Another interesting(downside) aspect of freesync monitor (maybe for only this monitor), when you enable the freesync mode in OSD, it stuck with that mode. A gaming scenario is when you in freesync in a game, suddenly you have more than 90fps to push to the monitor, you'll get the classic tearing. Of course you can cap the fps at CCC.

The question is how will you get to choose for the monitor to refresh at 144hz (disable freesync) when you in game? Because AMD said the VRR is negotiated before hand. The freesync enabled/disable switch in OSD, windows will detect as new device/monitor. Not sure you can toggle this mode while you gaming. hmm.gif



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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 02:34 PM)
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Like I said, the 850W PSU in your example have pretty bad efficiency. If both 500W & 850W PSU have same rated efficiency, e.g. 80+ GOLD 500W & 850W PSU, the amount of bill you need to pay when using 850W PSU is no higher than the bill with 500W PSU, provided that the computer power consumption (drawn from the PSU) is the same.

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But haven't answer me if the consumption is same, why difference in bill ?
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I've already explained.

It all depends on the efficiency rating of the power supply... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 30 2015, 12:43 PM)
hello, here he explain he FOUND issues.. is driver, if previously you have R9 200 series and install R9 300 series conflict will crash Gpu/black screen... DDU safe the day..  thumbup.gif


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proved he ain't no bias with AMD. same goes to MW Technology. alot people doin benchmark as i look for overall results based from all reviewers.

obviously, Nicolas11x12TECHX is the real bias on AMD side.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 30 2015, 03:22 PM)
proved he ain't no bias with AMD. same goes to MW Technology. alot people doin benchmark as i look for overall results based from all reviewers.

obviously, Nicolas11x12TECHX is the real bias on AMD side.
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nah his not bias, just need to do research on uninstall current driver before installing new Gpu/driver icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 30 2015, 12:43 PM)
hello, here he explain he FOUND issues.. is driver, if previously you have R9 200 series and install R9 300 series conflict will crash Gpu/black screen... DDU safe the day..  thumbup.gif
1. One can't DDU when can't even reach BIOS.

2. I've personally tried, even the drivers from the CD didn't work. Apa lagi mau?

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 30 2015, 11:22 AM)
I had a blackscreen issue too, turns out the problem is my PSU, changed to seasonic and never blackscreened anymore.
I'm running FSP Aurum S 700, Cooler Master V700 and Cooler Master V850. smile.gif All didn't work. For sure not PSU issue because that's the first thing I tried.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 30 2015, 04:36 PM)
1. One can't DDU when can't even reach BIOS.

2. I've personally tried, even the drivers from the CD didn't work. Apa lagi mau?
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tongue.gif Time to flash the latest sapphire vbios into the card through DOS (before the windows boot? ATIFlash USB?)

EDIT: Some card got dual bios, have you tried it yet?

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 30 2015, 05:05 PM)
EDIT: Some card got dual bios, have you tried it yet?
Been there, done that. Nope doesn't work.
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1. One can't DDU when can't even reach BIOS.

2. I've personally tried, even the drivers from the CD didn't work. Apa lagi mau?
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hmm.gif put back R9 200 and use DDU ?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 30 2015, 04:39 PM)
I'm running FSP Aurum S 700, Cooler Master V700 and Cooler Master V850. smile.gif All didn't work. For sure not PSU issue because that's the first thing I tried.
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Very serious issue.
It's already bad image that AMD is seen as budget brand, now creating more hassle for users.
People buy things so that it'll work, not to figure how to get it to work...
What brand is that 390 and 390X?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 30 2015, 07:51 PM)
Very serious issue.
It's already bad image that AMD is seen as budget brand, now creating more hassle for users.
People buy things so that it'll work, not to figure how to get it to work...
What brand is that 390 and 390X?
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dragon ball MSI as always since late 90 problematic until now.. actually shouldn't be a problem to buy 390/390x if wanna build new rig from new users or upgrading from old gpu.

those owned xeon processor w/o discrete graphic would be very leceh with 390/390x

Sapphire & PowerColor the only brands can be trusted.
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AMD Catalyst 15.x (15.200.1040.0 June 8) Win 7/8.1/10 x64.
I've been using this for weeks, best driver so far.
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 30 2015, 07:58 PM)
dragon ball MSI as always since late 90 problematic until now.. actually shouldn't be a problem to buy 390/390x if wanna build new rig from new users or upgrading from old gpu.

those owned xeon processor w/o discrete graphic would be very leceh with 390/390x

Sapphire & PowerColor the only brands can be trusted.
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fries unit of R9 390X is Sapphire, so...Starting to seem as though the Hawaii chips are pushed to the max here..
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 30 2015, 07:51 PM)
Very serious issue.
It's already bad image that AMD is seen as budget brand, now creating more hassle for users.
People buy things so that it'll work, not to figure how to get it to work...
What brand is that 390 and 390X?
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AMD is a budget brand and will remain as a budget brand unless they beat Nvidia in performance , efficiency, Driver, Overclocking and Customer support.

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What is your definition of improve for pCars?  laugh.gif
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Been there, done that. Nope doesn't work.
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Some said this solved the problem?

For the beta vbios, you need to specifically request it from sapphire technical support site.
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Guess I'll hold off buying the 390x for now...too many unresolved issue.
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Guys, a quick one here. It's been ages since I've used an AMD card, moreover now with a Displayport connection. In CCC, is there any setting that I should enable in order to get a full color range? Somehow, I feel the colors are a little washed out at the moment. I noticed something similar on my Nvidia cards and I simply need to enable Dynamic Range to Full (0-255).
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jun 30 2015, 09:48 PM)
Guys, a quick one here. It's been ages since I've used an AMD card, moreover now with a Displayport connection. In CCC, is there any setting that I should enable in order to get a full color range? Somehow, I feel the colors are a little washed out at the moment. I noticed something similar on my Nvidia cards and I simply need to enable Dynamic Range to Full (0-255).
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Did you try playing with Color Pixel Format?

My Digital Flat-Panels>Pixel Format.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jun 30 2015, 09:48 PM)
Guys, a quick one here. It's been ages since I've used an AMD card, moreover now with a Displayport connection. In CCC, is there any setting that I should enable in order to get a full color range? Somehow, I feel the colors are a little washed out at the moment. I noticed something similar on my Nvidia cards and I simply need to enable Dynamic Range to Full (0-255).
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impossible washed out.. my monitor xde DP. i'm using DVI & always 0-255
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Did you try playing with Color Pixel Format?

My Digital Flat-Panels>Pixel Format.
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So far everything on default. Any recommendations?

QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 30 2015, 09:53 PM)
impossible washed out.. my monitor xde DP. i'm using DVI & always 0-255
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DVI no issues, always full range. Only happens on HDMI / DP. Previously all my Nvidia cards on DVI capable monitor no issues at all.
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impossible washed out.. my monitor xde DP. i'm using DVI & always 0-255
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the issue is only for HDMI and DP users

its where the drivers are unable to distinguish whether are you connecting to TV (limited) or monitor (full)
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So far everything on default. Any recommendations?
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AMD is a budget brand and will remain as a budget brand unless they beat Nvidia in performance , efficiency, Driver, Overclocking and Customer support.
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Whatever floats your boat.

I would've regretted getting 780 or 780Ti when I bought my card one and half years ago. To each their own.
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Uh.. try change to RGB 4:4:4 PC Standard?
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jun 30 2015, 10:01 PM)
So far everything on default. Any recommendations?
DVI no issues, always full range. Only happens on HDMI / DP. Previously all my Nvidia cards on DVI capable monitor no issues at all.
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i thought the HDMI thingy already gao tim sai. i buey syiok when insert hdmi stuck at 59Hz.

report to nvidia forum. i shoot gao gao nvidia regarding the TDR issue now they fixed.

report to this fella https://twitter.com/ManuelGuzman this fella kena angkat abit so sweet talk v him.

try change ur dp 1.2a for better quality one. maybe ur port got tai chi.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 30 2015, 10:18 PM)
Uh.. try change to RGB 4:4:4 PC Standard?
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I find that My Digital Flat-Panels>Pixel Format does not appear in my CCC. Any ideas? Are you using DP cable too?
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Why do you need to change all that?

Till date I haven't the need to touch any of those settings.

By default the AMD graphic output is more vibrant to Intel system's output (eg onboard).
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I don't think pixel format visible when using dp.
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I find that My Digital Flat-Panels>Pixel Format does not appear in my CCC. Any ideas? Are you using DP cable too?
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No i'm on HDMI. sweat.gif
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does AMD driver have no issues with RGB 0-255? Does it detect your monitor as LCD TV or PC monitor?

Because nvidia haven't fixed this yet. When you hook up your monitor through hdmi, the RGB will be limited to 16-235. As this is the default standard for HDMI devices. Normal for LCD TV.
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does AMD driver have no issues with RGB 0-255? Does it detect your monitor as LCD TV or PC monitor?

Because nvidia haven't fixed this yet.  When you hook up your monitor through hdmi, the RGB will be limited to 16-235. As this is the default standard for HDMI devices. Normal for LCD TV.
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By default it will use YCbCr 4:4:4. (or RGB 4:4:4: Pixel Format PC Standard (Full RGB) in some beta driver i've used)

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jul 1 2015, 08:45 AM)
does AMD driver have no issues with RGB 0-255? Does it detect your monitor as LCD TV or PC monitor?

Because nvidia haven't fixed this yet.  When you hook up your monitor through hdmi, the RGB will be limited to 16-235. As this is the default standard for HDMI devices. Normal for LCD TV.
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Huh? You can set RGB Full Range 0-255 at Nvidia Control Panel for quite a while now since last year.



In any case, guess AMD really had 30k unit of fury x available for year 2015 even though AMD denied this rumour.

But there are many report around the net that customers are not able to purchase fury x.
Some even got their order delayed until July and October. Few of them got their fury x order delayed to December.

Air cooled edition will be released on 14 July,so I can only guess AMD plan to spread out the 30K unit evenly for June to December.

Since Fury Nano is cutdown based on Fiji core as well........uh oh, feels like a foreboding.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jul 1 2015, 10:48 AM)
Huh? You can set RGB Full Range 0-255 at Nvidia Control Panel for quite a while now since last year.
In any case, guess AMD really had 30k unit of fury x available for year 2015 even though AMD denied this rumour.

But there are many report around the net that customers are not able to purchase fury x.
Some even got their order delayed until July and October. Few of them got their fury x order delayed to December.

Air cooled edition will be released on 14 July,so I can only guess AMD plan to spread out the 30K unit evenly for June to December.

Since Fury Nano is cutdown based on Fiji core as well........uh oh, feels like a foreboding.
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Whatever floats your boat.

I would've regretted getting 780 or 780Ti when I bought my card one and half years ago. To each their own.
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smile.gif well second stock "Le Fury" Stock to malaysia end this week.. what i was inform Dotatech should receive 4-5(he say 3 order/book) "Le fury" end this week.. but still no update on FB.. maybe distro keep it pile up back room.. to sell off gtx 980 Ti.. hmm
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http://wccftech.com/amd-buyout-rumors-emer...-interest-time/

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I would like microsoft to buyout AMD.
Let Microsoft do the managing and marketing better.
Also buy Global Foundries too.

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I would like microsoft to buyout AMD.
Let Microsoft do the managing and marketing better.
Also buy Global Foundries too.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jul 1 2015, 08:45 AM)
does AMD driver have no issues with RGB 0-255? Does it detect your monitor as LCD TV or PC monitor?

Because nvidia haven't fixed this yet.  When you hook up your monitor through hdmi, the RGB will be limited to 16-235. As this is the default standard for HDMI devices. Normal for LCD TV.
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That happened because of the monitor. Some monitors I found by default set to TV instead of PC (monitor) which you can change in the monitor OSD setup menu.

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 1 2015, 10:45 AM)
By default it will use YCbCr 4:4:4. (or RGB 4:4:4: Pixel Format PC Standard (Full RGB) in some beta driver i've used)

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Can you use Full RGB with VSR?
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smile.gif  well second stock "Le Fury" Stock to malaysia end this week.. what i was inform Dotatech should receive 4-5(he say 3 order/book) "Le fury"  end this week.. but still no update on FB..  maybe distro keep it pile up back room.. to sell off gtx 980 Ti..  hmm
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Very unlikely, the shortage is real.
June to December 2015 is the best time for AMD to start raking profit from AMD Fury X series and yet, AMD can't even provide a steady stream of product supply in the market. (Fury X was delayed several times before it was launched).

AMD said the company shouldn't be viewed as value brand, I beg to differ, I believe the only way for AMD to survive is to become a value brand.
If the company doesn't have the capability to produce high end product, then the correct course of action is to produce mid end or low end product.
This is exactly what happens to AMD right now. AMD aims for enthusiast range gpu, yes, there is a great demand in this market segment, but AMD fabrication partner DON'T have the capability to produce sufficient quantity of the said product.

Not to mention the barrier of entry into enthusiast segment is quite high.
AMD competitor, Nvidia, have a great deal with game publishers to use its proprietary gameworks and physx. These middleware actually starts to gain traction in the developer market (sad, but it is a fact). Meanwhile, AMD proposed physics engine never got any traction to move on.
AMD proposed Mantle doesnt do much right now when discrete gpu market is currently dominated by nvidia.
AMD Trueaudio chip doesnt gain much game developer interest as well.
The last knucker barrier of entry into enthusiast market segment is that Nvidia is pouring large amount of R&D money into their chip development.
In most cases, the R&D done by nvidia can be easily recouped back. The same can't be said for AMD Fiji. HBM sounds good and perform well, but can AMD recoups the initial investment? Or nvidia will reap the benefits of AMD hbm instead?

Fury X was originally slated to debut with price range of USD800 until nvidia decided to crash the party with Titan X cut down, 980Ti, setting a performance target at price of USD 649.

Why is Nvidia proprietary stuff gaining traction? Simple, because Nvidia is actively encouraging developer to use it by providing incentive (in term of finance and branding).
AMD tries to follow the similar method.
However, AMD financial situation is not doing well compared to Nvidia in addition to AMD brand doesnt carry much value in its branding. (Sigh, I am saddening by this, but the fact stands)

Doesn't look like AMD has sound strategy to get into enthusiast market segment right now.

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 1 2015, 12:25 PM)
That happened because of the monitor. Some monitors I found by default set to TV instead of PC (monitor) which you can change in the monitor OSD setup menu.
Can you use Full RGB with VSR?
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not monitor. The hdmi interface. It is known issue. Now they already fixed it i guess.
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not monitor. The hdmi interface.  It is known issue.  Now they already fixed it i guess.
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In my case, it's the monitor. FYI, with some monitors you can change between TV & PC (monitor) in the OCD setup menu. Some monitors set it to TV by default. So it is actually not hdmi interface issue because if it is all people will have this problem. Nothing change in HDMI specs though. Currently people either using HDMI 1.4 or 2.0 cable. The issue happened either because of the monitor (default set to TV) or the driver failed to auto-detect the monitor type properly.

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In my case, it's the monitor. FYI, with some monitors you can change between TV & PC (monitor) in the OCD setup menu. Some monitors set it to TV by default. So it is actually not hdmi interface issue because if it is all people will have this problem. Nothing change in HDMI specs though. Currently people either using HDMI 1.4 or 2.0 cable. The issue happened either because of the monitor (default set to TV) or the driver failed to auto-detect the monitor type properly.
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If your monitor have that to change between TV and PC, it is the scaler have the extra function.

The HDMI group defines that all HDMI CE, should have limited RGB by default. HDMI wasn't meant for PC in the first place. It is not part of VESA.
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jul 1 2015, 12:28 PM)
Very unlikely, the shortage is real.
June to December 2015 is the best time for AMD to start raking profit from AMD Fury X series and yet, AMD can't even provide a steady stream of product supply in the market. (Fury X was delayed several times before it was launched).

AMD said the company shouldn't be viewed as value brand, I beg to differ, I believe the only way for AMD to survive is to become a value brand.
If the company doesn't have the capability to produce high end product, then the correct course of action is to produce mid end or low end product.
This is exactly what happens to AMD right now. AMD aims for enthusiast range gpu, yes, there is a great demand in this market segment, but AMD fabrication partner DON'T have the capability to produce sufficient quantity of the said product.

Not to mention the barrier of entry into enthusiast segment is quite high.
AMD competitor, Nvidia, have a great deal with game publishers to use its proprietary gameworks and physx. These middleware actually starts to gain traction in the developer market (sad, but it is a fact). Meanwhile, AMD proposed physics engine never got any traction to move on.
AMD proposed Mantle doesnt do much right now when discrete gpu market is currently dominated by nvidia.
AMD Trueaudio chip doesnt gain much game developer interest as well.
The last knucker barrier of entry into enthusiast market segment is that Nvidia is pouring large amount of R&D money into their chip development.
In most cases, the R&D done by nvidia can be easily recouped back. The same can't be said for AMD Fiji. HBM sounds good and perform well, but can AMD recoups the initial investment? Or nvidia will reap the benefits of AMD hbm instead?

Fury X was originally slated to debut with price range of USD800 until nvidia decided to crash the party with Titan X cut down, 980Ti, setting a performance target at price of USD 649.

Why is Nvidia proprietary stuff gaining traction? Simple, because Nvidia is actively encouraging developer to use it by providing incentive (in term of finance and branding).
AMD tries to follow the similar method.
However, AMD financial situation is not doing well compared to Nvidia in addition to AMD brand doesnt carry much value in its branding. (Sigh, I am saddening by this, but the fact stands)

Doesn't look like AMD has sound strategy to get into enthusiast market segment right now.
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Not me lah, I just discussing the Fury shortage issue. (I outta budget at the moment, need to save up to pay for ACCA membership fee and examination fee soon, RM drop like hell compared to Britain pound cry.gif )
I saw many reddit + overclockers.net thread commenting on this issue and one from Phoronix
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jul 1 2015, 05:56 PM)
Not me lah, I just discussing the Fury shortage issue. (I outta budget at the moment, need to save up to pay for ACCA membership fee and examination fee soon, RM drop like hell compared to Britain pound  cry.gif )
I saw many reddit + overclockers.net thread commenting on this issue and one from Phoronix
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Funny, I'm reading 390/390X club at ocn but didn't come across any user yet having problem booting the card in their computer. Many have MSI 390 too there.
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I suspect the problem might be batch related.
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Funny, I'm reading 390/390X club at ocn but didn't come across any user yet having problem booting the card in their computer. Many have MSI 390 too there.
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usually ocn discuss more bout OC stuff. rarely talk bout other thing.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 30 2015, 12:43 PM)
hello, here he explain he FOUND issues.. is driver, if previously you have R9 200 series and install R9 300 series conflict will crash Gpu/black screen... DDU safe the day..  thumbup.gif
Even without DDU you can uninstall all AMD drivers.

And drivers from the box doesn't necessarily work.

Take for example, R9 380 that I tested from Sapphire. I had all drivers removed so on boot it shows Microsoft Basic Display Adapter.

Install driver from CD, reboot and that's it. Once driver loads it's black screen.

EDITED : sorry I just realize I replied to you earlier. kekeke.
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Well those who wants to buy two Fury Xs and Crossfire them... you're in for a treat:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1562958/nnnnggg...k#post_24114804

That scaling.... drool.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 2 2015, 12:20 AM)
Even without DDU you can uninstall all AMD drivers.

And drivers from the box doesn't necessarily work.

Take for example, R9 380 that I tested from Sapphire. I had all drivers removed so on boot it shows Microsoft Basic Display Adapter.

Install driver from CD, reboot and that's it. Once driver loads it's black screen.

EDITED : sorry I just realize I replied to you earlier. kekeke.
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Happened exactly like the same on my cousin's HD7790.
Once the driver loads black screen come out.
But the reason it became like that because the GPU is faulty, it worked fine for 6 months. Now already given another replacement card under warranty and no more problems.
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For my case it wasn't GPU problem because the GPU is in perfect working condition.

What I did for my friend was (I had to take the rig back!) to put an R7 250 into the system, uninstall the driver, install my old 14.xx drivers that confirm works with R9 280X.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 2 2015, 12:20 AM)
Even without DDU you can uninstall all AMD drivers.

And drivers from the box doesn't necessarily work.

Take for example, R9 380 that I tested from Sapphire. I had all drivers removed so on boot it shows Microsoft Basic Display Adapter.

Install driver from CD, reboot and that's it. Once driver loads it's black screen.

EDITED : sorry I just realize I replied to you earlier. kekeke.
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yo.. no worried i just post what conclusion of the issues /why it happen for that vid reviewer of r9 390/390X what was the issues(the reviewer problem was).. i am sure you know what your doing icon_rolleyes.gif i read your review.. thumbup.gif
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S4PH

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Start of the race = 50Fps
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After few corners = 63Fps-75Fps
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impressive performance boost, BTW what GPU u using? hmm.gif
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impressive performance boost, BTW what GPU u using?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 2 2015, 02:14 AM)
Well those who wants to buy two Fury Xs and Crossfire them... you're in for a treat:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1562958/nnnnggg...k#post_24114804

That scaling.... drool.gif
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blink.gif Dam... the scaling... is that 90% ? or higher no way.. hm kinda happy with using single fury x on 4K.. well currently im broke anyway tongue.gif
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impressive performance boost, BTW what GPU u using?  hmm.gif
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hi, i don really know whether is this thread for asking, sorry if i posted in the wrong section. i own a r9 290 asus. so ytd night as normal i shut down my pc and this morning i cant switch on. so, i unplug my gc and plug in the display port onto my motherboard and it starts display again. so, can i just go to the shop warranty just like that? or do i need to bring my entire rig to the shop.
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QUOTE(bingding @ Jul 2 2015, 03:32 PM)
hi, i don really know whether is this thread for asking, sorry if i posted in the wrong section. i own a r9 290 asus. so ytd night as normal i shut down my pc and this morning i cant switch on. so, i unplug my gc and plug in the display port onto my motherboard and it starts display again. so, can i just go to the shop warranty just like that? or do i need to bring my entire rig to the shop.
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ur rig bought from? just bring ur gpu.
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ur rig bought from? just bring ur gpu.
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all my components bought from same shop.. so do i nid to bring my entire rig for the shop to check, or do i need to pass him only the gpu? cause, im worried mayb he will say its not gpu faulty, mayb its the cable, the pci slot, etc?
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If the PC was assembled by the shop, then bring the whole PC. If not, just bring the GPU.
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QUOTE(bingding @ Jul 2 2015, 04:51 PM)
all my components bought from same shop.. so do i nid to bring my entire rig for the shop to check, or do i need to pass him only the gpu? cause, im worried mayb he will say its not gpu faulty, mayb its the cable, the pci slot, etc?
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call up the shop inform them your issues.. and bring all your Rig.. if you bring just your Gpu they might say gpu no problem.. so bring whole rig.. smile.gif if at shop all is good than check wired.. Hdmi so on.. oh bring receipts just in case they say dunno who u are.. lolx
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QUOTE(bingding @ Jul 2 2015, 04:51 PM)
all my components bought from same shop.. so do i nid to bring my entire rig for the shop to check, or do i need to pass him only the gpu? cause, im worried mayb he will say its not gpu faulty, mayb its the cable, the pci slot, etc?
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like other sifu said bring everything go there but take noted see how they test ur rig on the spot. lowyat ah beng really pandai ah chi ah cho so beware those fella. spend some time observe.. can learn something from them too.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 2 2015, 03:03 PM)
Stock 290x Gaming. I'm on Window 10 btw, you currently on Window 7?
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Banyak orang gaduh pasal ini already lol

user posted image

user posted image
Titan X road lines looked to be half transparent, just like on the first image. Is that Alpha channel error? Discounting the black and gray comments, look at the texture. Fury X's road texture looked sharper, the pillar have better shading. Tanks looked sharper on Titan X but textures looked more washed out.

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 2 2015, 07:09 PM)
yeah on win7 i think i gotta change
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You should hop in A.S.A.P. tongue.gif

Any way you can try dropping Catalyst 1040.0 D3D files into pCars root folder to get benefit of driver optimization without installing the driver. Usually it will work.
You can download the files in Catalyst DLLs repo here.

QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 3 2015, 12:26 AM)
Banyak orang gaduh pasal ini already lol

-snip-

Titan X road lines looked to be half transparent, just like on the first image. Is that Alpha channel error? Discounting the black and gray comments, look at the texture. Fury X's road texture looked sharper, the pillar have better shading. Tanks looked sharper on Titan X but textures looked more washed out.
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Sos?
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 3 2015, 12:43 AM)
You should hop in A.S.A.P. tongue.gif

Any way you can try dropping Catalyst 1040.0 D3D files into pCars root folder to get benefit of driver optimization without installing the driver. Usually it will work.
You can download the files in Catalyst DLLs repo here.
Sos?
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthrea...8678073&page=82

Another one
user posted image

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 3 2015, 01:08 AM)
rclxms.gif wow it does look better fury x.. smile.gif x haha i thought my eye improve after owning le fury" so when i playing game on fury x graphic look so much rich haha hard to explain look so vivid.. well detail smile.gif

edit: oh so review who put up IQ comparison FX and TX is from this fellow.. Gregster Review " oh look is my 4k lcd tongue.gif



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Unseen83 Mind telling whether the Cooler Master logo is engraved on the pump, or otherwise? hmm.gif

user posted image

The engraved logo is actually a revised version of the watercooler with less pump noise... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 3 2015, 12:26 AM)
Banyak orang gaduh pasal ini already lol

user posted image

user posted image
Titan X road lines looked to be half transparent, just like on the first image. Is that Alpha channel error? Discounting the black and gray comments, look at the texture. Fury X's road texture looked sharper, the pillar have better shading. Tanks looked sharper on Titan X but textures looked more washed out.
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Driver problems? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 3 2015, 10:25 AM)
Driver problems? hmm.gif
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Seems like default Nvidia settings had the LOD quite short
Nvidia users should put the settings to high quality in the Nvidia control panels.
No idea what's the performance impact, I only had Radeons atm.

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 3 2015, 10:24 AM)
Unseen83 Mind telling whether the Cooler Master logo is engraved on the pump, or otherwise? hmm.gif

user posted image

The engraved logo is actually a revised version of the watercooler with less pump noise... hmm.gif
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Haha nice laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 3 2015, 10:24 AM)
Unseen83 Mind telling whether the Cooler Master logo is engraved on the pump, or otherwise? hmm.gif

user posted image

The engraved logo is actually a revised version of the watercooler with less pump noise... hmm.gif
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dunno when i got gpu i just install and play.. icon_rolleyes.gif

eh.. well to be honest my fluffy is quite for me(i really do not notice it unless i really2 focus to it put my ear next to it.. ) i mean who install gpu and test the noise by putting their ear next to it lolx.. i barely hear anything from my fluffy.. and is inside my case.. (by way only noise my case is my V6 Cpu cooler)
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 3 2015, 01:08 AM)
I wouldn't judge image quality through video especially when the differences is subtle. sweat.gif
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Those people are really picky. I play game I just go in for the action / story la. Graphic details as those, no time to observe.
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hmm picky.. but, most Nvidia always been picky.. imagine Fuxy x was on Question regarding IQ.. look at Fury x pump whine.. lol really? hm
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 3 2015, 10:48 AM)
I wouldn't judge image quality through video especially when the differences is subtle.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 3 2015, 10:51 AM)
Those people are really picky. I play game I just go in for the action / story la. Graphic details as those, no time to observe.
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First, check out the filtering, even with video you can see the texture details on the roads and grass totally different.
Second, even if you play a game for the action and story, It's no excuse to skimp on these basic things.
Thirdly, benchmarking a GPU means comparing the performance of different GPU models and vendor with standard tests, this also imply that:
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Check the sentences with bold red line underneath

You are doing benchmark, make sure the image quality is nearly the same, else the comparison is null and void.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)

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check out the pavement on FX it show individually meanwhile on TX.. eh fail to.. ?

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but to be honest.. i dun really focus on image just FPS.. tongue.gif eh who care... unless one of this company have History in the past.. debug driver to not run certain texture just to gain extra Fps.. and win benchmark..
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 3 2015, 11:02 AM)
Check the sentences with bold red line underneath

You are doing benchmark, make sure the image quality is nearly the same, else the comparison is null and void.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)
Many of those stuff are beyond us. Even if it's slightly different that doesn't mean it'll affect the benchmark a lot.

Furthermore each driver update may have changes, even if the scores are high now it could end up being higher later.

Usually those image comparison done by people with a lot of free time. I've not come by any other review sites that actually do this type of image comparison simply because

1. not practical.
2. it doesn't happen often
3. if it happens, there's no way to check whether it actually affects the framerates.
4. people only care about framerates.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 3 2015, 11:26 AM)
Many of those stuff are beyond us. Even if it's slightly different that doesn't mean it'll affect the benchmark a lot.

Furthermore each driver update may have changes, even if the scores are high now it could end up being higher later.

Usually those image comparison done by people with a lot of free time. I've not come by any other review sites that actually do this type of image comparison simply because

1. not practical.
2. it doesn't happen often
3. if it happens, there's no way to check whether it actually affects the framerates.
4. people only care about framerates.
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If this is the case, then it should be fair to submit multi game or synthetic benchmarks by using the tessellation override option, since we only care about framerates.
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If this is the case, then it should be fair to submit multi game or synthetic benchmarks by using the tessellation override option, since we only care about framerates.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 3 2015, 11:34 AM)
If this is the case, then it should be fair to submit multi game or synthetic benchmarks by using the tessellation override option, since we only care about framerates.
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dejavu all over again laugh.gif . But honestly I could not tell that much of a difference
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Its only natural, when one company doing it its ok but when the competing company did it its the sin of the century.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 3 2015, 12:43 AM)
You should hop in A.S.A.P. tongue.gif

Any way you can try dropping Catalyst 1040.0 D3D files into pCars root folder to get benefit of driver optimization without installing the driver. Usually it will work.
You can download the files in Catalyst DLLs repo here.
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ur using the free windows 10 is it ? whats the catch hmm.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 3 2015, 04:24 PM)
ur using the free windows 10 is it ? whats the catch  hmm.gif
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TL;DR, you're testing a beta OS 24/7.
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TL;DR, you're testing a beta OS 24/7.
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Those people are really picky. I play game I just go in for the action / story la. Graphic details as those, no time to observe.
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Only super sharp eyed user with time to burn will be able to come to that level of detailed comparison.

Meanwhile, will AMD ever release a WHQL driver?
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jul 3 2015, 09:31 PM)
Only super sharp eyed user with time to burn will be able to come to that level of detailed comparison.

Meanwhile, will AMD ever release a WHQL driver?
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They've not released one in wuite a while. sweat.gif

Me personally,as long as it's medium/high settings and not low,i'm already satisfied. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 3 2015, 09:34 PM)
They've not released one in wuite a while. sweat.gif

Me personally,as long as it's medium/high settings and not low,i'm already satisfied. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 3 2015, 09:34 PM)
They've not released one in wuite a while. sweat.gif

Me personally,as long as it's medium/high settings and not low,i'm already satisfied. biggrin.gif
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hmm.gif they waiting window 10 release 29 July.. or week before win 10.. or my guess is wrong..



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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 3 2015, 06:25 PM)
hahahaha, i tought windows 10 full version roll out already  doh.gif
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Official Window 10 start rolling end of this month, you can try it for free right now though.

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 3 2015, 08:17 PM)
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hahahaha, i tought windows 10 full version roll out already  doh.gif
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LOL seriously bro?! laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 3 2015, 09:48 PM)
hmm.gif  they waiting window 10 release 29 July..  or week before win 10..  or my guess is wrong..
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They should be releasing one for Windows 10.

Inb4 "AMD Catalyst Drivers Beta for Windows 10 has been released."

*4 weeks later,still no whql*


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They will, most probably the driver will come from 15.20 branch(or newer) which pretty much a solid driver for Window 10 in the past month.
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hahahaha, i tought windows 10 full version roll out already  doh.gif
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here link for you to check if you ready to get win 10 for free.. if your using win 8/8.1 there should be icon right conner say reday reserb win 10 and be up to win 10 when 29 July arrive.. x


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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 3 2015, 10:08 PM)
They will, most probably the driver will come from 15.20 branch(or newer) which pretty much a solid driver for Window 10 in the past month.
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hahahaha, i tought windows 10 full version roll out already  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 3 2015, 10:18 PM)
oh how win 10 mr.. lab mouse biggrin.gif ? stable ? ? possible to up load Mantle draw call on dx12 on here ?
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Pretty stable with some rare hiccups on the UI.

With my processor and 15.200.40 driver, i get
920k+ on DX11 ST
890k+ on DX11 MT
11M+ on Mantle
13M+ on DX12

But after upgraded to current build 10163, i only get 3.9k physic score in Firestrike. doh.gif
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Look at the FPS number, 10% hit on Titan X when running at the same image quality settings as Fury X.

All benchmarks partaining to Nvidia's cards are questionable now.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 10:39 AM)
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Look at the FPS number, 10% hit on Titan X when running at the same image quality settings as Fury X.

All benchmarks partaining to Nvidia's cards are questionable now.
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"Optimization"

What setting is this? In NCP or ingame?
Is it only happen in BF4? What about 980Ti?
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"Optimization"

What setting is this? In NCP or ingame?
Is it only happen in BF4? What about 980Ti?
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That was the settings in NCP. No idea about 980 Ti yet. People who own 970, 980, & 980 Ti should run these two settings in some games and compare the screenshots.

Oh by the way Fury X is meant to be crossfired Unseen83

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Things always seem to come arnd in full circle

Ncp quality vs high quality is texture filtering

High quality overides the default optimization for game engines. The optimization is not a performance enchancement. Its just complying with the game engine texture filtering optimization support.

Quality is what the game engine defaults are.
Google unreal tournament 3870 vs 8800gt

What ure asking is akin to reencode a 16 bit lossless audio to a 24bit and compare the hardware utilization on decode.

Next somdbody gonna do a driver force optimization n say thats what it suppose to look like. Thats what high quality is.

Also as per last time this issue came up. They should fix an fps on both side n crank everything up.

Let me take a guess. All this is bf4. Dice crappy engine.

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Look at the FPS number, 10% hit on Titan X when running at the same image quality settings as Fury X.

All benchmarks partaining to Nvidia's cards are questionable now.
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There is thing called professional benchmark and review and if their was a case like this than nvidia hater sites would have highlighted it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clgSqNHjGp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnr9FoTAyCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYqNXlDV8dE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e8xdOrShEU

If you can find any lower IQ in GTX 980 Ti in this benchmarks vs Fury X.

It is simply a time to move on and accept the defeat rather making an stupid excuse.
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There is thing called professional benchmark and review and if their was a case like this than nvidia hater sites would have highlighted it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clgSqNHjGp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnr9FoTAyCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYqNXlDV8dE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e8xdOrShEU

If you can find any lower IQ in GTX 980 Ti in this benchmarks  vs Fury X.

It is simply a time to move on and accept the defeat rather making an stupid excuse.
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It is not a stupid excuse, one reviewer confirmed he ran NCP at default settings for benchmark.

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2438166&page=2

One owner of two 295X2 cards (quad Hawaii CF) and 2 980Ti told his experiences:

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2437903&page=3

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 11:19 AM)

Oh by the way Fury X is meant to be crossfired Unseen83

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eh when i buy Fury x i can't find my discount coupon for sec gpu biggrin.gif and i don't think i can afford sec fury x.. i took out 5year car loan pay rm2K monthly.. so this fury x i own will probably be with me long time...(till my next year bonus) but.. wow Crossfire scalar really are impressive.. again AIO wc i need to do minor mod in my case to fit sec Fury x. hmm.gif

QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 4 2015, 10:23 AM)
Pretty stable with some rare hiccups on the UI.

With my processor and 15.200.40 driver, i get
920k+ on DX11 ST
890k+ on DX11 MT
11M+ on Mantle
13M+ on DX12

But after upgraded to current build 10163, i only get 3.9k physic score in Firestrike.  doh.gif
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nice.. so there improvement performance.. but on draw call...
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 12:29 PM)
It is not a stupid excuse, one reviewer confirmed he ran NCP at default settings for benchmark.

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2438166&page=2

One owner of two 295X2 cards (quad Hawaii CF) and 2 980Ti told his experiences:

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Remove GTA V from the list because it is a known bug and only 350.12 do not have that AF bug.It was highlighted by PCper that GTA V AF drops after 350.12 driver.

Did you look at those videos?

They all are running at NVP default settings.That is why i told there a thing called professional Review and if their was any case than it would have been highlighted by techsopt, Gamegpu.RU, PC world and e.t.c

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Remove GTA V from the list because it is a known bug and only 350.12 do not have that AF bug.It was highlighted by PCper that GTA V AF drops after 350.12 driver.
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Still have Arma 3, BF4, Project Cars etc

I looked at the videos, the videos are horribly compressed to the point that the edges of the car in GTA V is not clearly defined. Are you serious to compare image quality on such horrible source?

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Still have Arma 3, BF4, Project Cars etc
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No project car is the same.Look at the video carefully.Debate is only on BF4.
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No project car is the same.Look at the video carefully.Debate is only on BF4.
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There are both taken from different scene.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Project-CARS...k-Test-1158026/

I will tell u again their is a thing called professional benchmarking which is not for everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPrfqDbSWA

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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jul 4 2015, 12:41 PM)
There are both taken from different scene.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Project-CARS...k-Test-1158026/

I will tell u again their is a thing called professional benchmarking which is not for everyone.
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*Professional*


10% FPS drop when ran on the quality designed by game developers

Comparing worse image quality setting in NCP (default setting) vs better image quality settings in CCC is benchmarking, lol. I call it cheating.
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*Professional*


10% FPS drop when ran on the quality designed by game developers

Comparing worse image quality setting in NCP (default setting) vs better image quality settings in CCC is benchmarking, lol. I call it cheating.
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I have shown you man professional video which no IQ difference.
It is fact that lack of maturity are the majority of AMD fanboys and that is the reason why AMD share in gutter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvsYE6-ErMI

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Professional vid.. Load up 4k 20mins shadowplay 60fps max quality about 16gb.
But then again amd doesnt have a video capturing hardware encode capability .. Afaik

Comparing on youtube..

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Dont bother bro. Same topic every 5 years.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 4 2015, 12:56 PM)
Professional vid.. Load up 4k 20mins shadowplay 60fps max quality about 16gb.
But then again amd doesnt have a video capturing hardware encode capability .. Afaik

Comparing on youtube..

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Dont bother bro. Same topic every 5 years.
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I sum up the whole story here and if people cannot understand than god help them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc_pXTkRefg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaNGwEl0vU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaNGwEl0vU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i_RmuSYP7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYIueIbQ6dM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PniRZaA3zMg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrSkRC7QvIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9walJtvG60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9v7DKVW4M4

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 4 2015, 12:56 PM)
Professional vid.. Load up 4k 20mins shadowplay 60fps max quality about 16gb.
But then again amd doesnt have a video capturing hardware encode capability .. Afaik

Comparing on youtube..

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Dont bother bro. Same topic every 5 years.
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Default quality settings
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NCP set to max quality settings
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Screenshot, not video, From Greg @ OCUK

Desprado, your so called *professional reviewers* failed to catch on the GTX 970's 3.5GB fiasco, who got the conspiracy ball rolling and proven to be the truth? USERS

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 01:07 PM)

Desprado, your so called *professional reviewers* failed to catch on the GTX 970's 3.5GB fiasco, who got the conspiracy ball rolling and proven to be the truth? USERS
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 01:07 PM)
Default quality settings
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NCP set to max quality settings
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Screenshot, not video, From Greg @ OCUK

Desprado, your so called *professional reviewers* failed to catch on the GTX 970's 3.5GB fiasco, who got the conspiracy ball rolling and proven to be the truth? USERS
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I just asked you 1 question did you see any IQ difference in videos that i posted to you?
If you cannot answer it than do not even bother to post in tech section.

I know Greg and i follow his you tube and currently are around 200 subscriber so the video that i showed to you have more than 50k subscriber .

Processional review requires alot of stuff not just shadowplay like PCper and Tom hardware says.

It will cost around 30K Rm.
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I just asked you 1 question did you see any IQ difference in videos that i posted to you?
If you cannot answer it than do not even bother to post in tech section.

I know Greg and i follow his you tube and currently are around  200 subscriber so the video that i showed to you have more than 50k subscriber .

Processional review requires alot of stuff not just shadowplay like PCper and Tom hardware says.

It will cost around 30K Rm.
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Lousy video quality and not zoomed, how to see the texture details???

Provide screenshots please
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Lousy video quality and not zoomed, how to see the texture details???

Provide screenshots please
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lol seriously?I take my leave know and tnk u for your time.
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lol seriously?I take my leave know and tnk u for your time.
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Tai Chi away now?

Posting video links ain't doing nothing.

You said IQ is the same, post screenshots and circle the parts with comparable image quality on the same scene on both cards. Provide proof.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 01:23 PM)
Lousy video quality and not zoomed, how to see the texture details???

Provide screenshots please
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Default screenshot 780.

Dont be shy shy. The perp is right there. Already admitted first vid his shadowplay settings were low ..

Debate here
http://www.overclock.net/t/1547314/officia...wners-club/2130
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Default screenshot 780.

Dont be shy shy. The perp is right there. Already admitted first vid his shadowplay settings were low ..

Debate here
http://www.overclock.net/t/1547314/officia...wners-club/2130
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780 ain't exactly 980Ti / Titan X. It's not even a maxwell.
Explain to me how shadowplay encoding can remove textures on the 3d game's road surface?

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780 ain't exactly 980Ti / Titan X. It's not even a maxwell.
Explain to me how shadowplay encoding can remove textures on the 3d game's road surface?
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Wrong debate is about Nvidia NCP which u said so u are changing the whole topic.

Wait i post a pic too.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 01:34 PM)
780 ain't exactly 980Ti / Titan X. It's not even a maxwell.
Explain to me how shadowplay encoding can remove textures on the 3d game's road surface?
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Easy look at all my vids my youtube channel.

Compare that with gregster on the same game.

Mine are all maxed out. N i upload it raw. Hence y 1440p/4k@60 takes youtube a week to have that option


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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jul 4 2015, 01:42 PM)
Easy look at all my vids my youtube channel.

Compare that with gregster on the same game.

Mine are all maxed out. N i upload it raw. Hence y 1440p/4k@60 takes youtube a week to have that option
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Sorry about my attitude, but I just wanted the truth.
I myself are interested in Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 *if* I revamp my whole PC but these news about IQ really makes me feel betrayed. I had always liked sharper textures and IQ.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 01:50 PM)
Sorry about my attitude, but I just wanted the truth.
I myself are interested in Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 *if* I revamp my whole PC but these news about IQ really makes me feel betrayed. I had always liked sharper textures and IQ.
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Wait for msi or get the zotac. G1.. I nvr trust giga.

Dude there need to be more input. But seriously this topic crops up everytime a newbie suddenly becomes a reviewer. Everytime. You ureself can see theres no traction from oldtimers. Cause same shit different day.

I wont be suprised somebody showed tess heavy game .. Amd optimization to compensate.
Pros n cons.
Cons nvidia folk says bs as thats not how it suppose to look like
Pros well dude it just makes the game easier to run. Ultimately this is more important.

QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 4 2015, 01:57 PM)
Liddis oso youalls wan to gaduh meh?
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Lol. Clockwork. Every 5 years same topic. See you again with same line in another 5 lol.

Btw did 353.38 solve ure witcher 3 issue??

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I have to power off my machine using the mains, and drain all the power in my machine by pressing the power button multiple times. sweat.gif
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Wait for msi or get the zotac. G1.. I nvr trust giga.

Dude there need to be more input. But seriously this topic crops up everytime a newbie suddenly becomes a reviewer. Everytime. You ureself can see theres no traction from oldtimers. Cause same shit different day.

I wont be suprised somebody showed tess heavy game .. Amd optimization to compensate.
Pros n cons.
Cons nvidia folk says bs as thats not how it suppose to look like
Pros well dude it just makes the game easier to run. Ultimately this is more important.
Lol. Clockwork. Every 5 years same topic. See you again with same line in another 5 lol.

Btw did 353.38 solve ure witcher 3 issue??
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Why you didn't trust Gigabyte? Which brand usually have better components?

QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 4 2015, 02:07 PM)
Did anyone encounter any blackouts during gaming with the latest beta driver?  My machine just blacked out when I'm playing League of Legends... sweat.gif

I have to power off my machine using the mains, and drain all the power in my machine by pressing the power button multiple times. sweat.gif
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Happened to me, it was my Asus motherboard shutting the PC down due to power surge, really weird because my PSU ain't exactly the lousy model. Then I turned off the power surge setting in my MOBO and blackout happens very rarely now. Maybe once a month? I can't remember the last time it happened.
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Why you didn't trust Gigabyte? Which brand usually have better components?
Happened to me, it was my Asus motherboard shutting the PC down due to power surge, really weird because my PSU ain't exactly the lousy model. Then I turned off the power surge setting in my MOBO and blackout happens very rarely now. Maybe once a month? I can't remember the last time it happened.
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This is the first time though... hmm.gif

Anyone fancy a Fury X in a 11.5 liter form factor? brows.gif
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780 ain't exactly 980Ti / Titan X. It's not even a maxwell.
Explain to me how shadowplay encoding can remove textures on the 3d game's road surface?
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Here are some screenshot

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/540/f0XnN4.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1920x1080.../909/lM8AKU.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1920x1080.../673/HNiAW5.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/910/IfF2wl.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/540/LyKJX9.png

These are all taken on NCP default

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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jul 4 2015, 02:31 PM)
Looks good, can you post screenshots on NCP set at highest performance and also highest quality

Is this on 980 or 980 Ti?
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Looks good, can you post screenshots on NCP set at highest performance and also highest quality

Is this on 980 or 980 Ti?
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Looks good, can you post screenshots on NCP set at highest performance and also highest quality

Is this on 980 or 980 Ti?
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Did u notice that my VRAM usage is higher than Greg.He has some problem that is for sure.

See my FPS, Vram Usage and i am running on GTX 980 single card.
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Did u notice that my VRAM usage is higher than Greg.He has some problem that is for sure.

See my FPS, Vram Usage and i am running on GTX 980 single card.
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I also forgot about LOD, can you check LOD settings too.
If LOD bias is set that farther object details wouldn't load, that's probably why VRAM usage is lower, it isn't streamed into the VRAM.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 02:41 PM)
I also forgot about LOD, can you check LOD settings too.
If LOD bias is set that farther object details wouldn't load, that's probably why VRAM usage is lower, it isn't streamed into the VRAM.
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My LOD is 70 and Greg is 69.
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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jul 4 2015, 02:42 PM)
My LOD is 70 and Greg is 69.
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I checked back VRAM, yours is 2300+MB and greg's is 2500MB+, he's actually higher.

if 980 is fine, can someone with titan x provide ss on it? Might be driver bug?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 02:44 PM)
I checked back VRAM, yours is 2300+MB and greg's is 2500MB+, he's actually higher.

if 980 is fine, can someone with titan x provide ss on it? Might be driver bug?
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Wait i post high quality SS from NCP.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 02:44 PM)
I checked back VRAM, yours is 2300+MB and greg's is 2500MB+, he's actually higher.

if 980 is fine, can someone with titan x provide ss on it? Might be driver bug?
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The last image is 2797 MB VRAm usage.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 02:44 PM)
I checked back VRAM, yours is 2300+MB and greg's is 2500MB+, he's actually higher.

if 980 is fine, can someone with titan x provide ss on it? Might be driver bug?
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This is NVP high quality SS

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/661/aMZmMl.png
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/673/cXkCyJ.png
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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jul 4 2015, 02:52 PM)
Can see have that at very far distance there's slightly sharper than NCP default
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 02:56 PM)
Can see have that at very far distance there's slightly sharper than NCP default
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look at the FPS only 1 fps difference.

There are 2 things to be sure

There is a driver a bug on Titan X or the guy is totally faking.

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on the side note, Acid_RuleZz can u update the 1st post, already been more than few days. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 02:56 PM)
Can see have that at very far distance there's slightly sharper than NCP default
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Here are some SS of Nvidia high quality

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/901/CuIx4F.png

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/673/BkzmM8.png
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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jul 4 2015, 02:58 PM)
look at the FPS only 1 fps difference.

There are 2 things to be sure

There is a driver a bug on Titan X or the guy is totally faking.
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Try AF=0
Another user managed to reproduced it to looked like the claimed default screenshot before using that.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 4 2015, 04:16 PM)
Try AF=0
Another user managed to reproduced it to looked like the claimed default screenshot before using that.
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NCP AF 16X and high quality

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/673/nyZBwC.png

NCP AF 0X (Gerg Image quality)

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1920x1080.../909/MvmOvF.png

NCP default (let the 3D application decide)

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1665x937q90/661/UXV95h.png

Greg Computer has some real problem

Someone plz post this to anandtech because their is lackluster debate going on there.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 4 2015, 03:00 PM)
on the side note, Acid_RuleZz can u update the 1st post, already been more than few days.  biggrin.gif
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Sry, too lazy and "busy". tongue.gif Hopefully tomorrow afternoon is not hot as F, so i can work on it.

Anyway Unseen83, you can unlock Fury X memory overclock by enabling "Extend official overclock limits" in Msi Afterburner.
Voltage coming soon, Unwinder already got his hand on Fury X.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 4 2015, 07:15 PM)
Sry, too lazy and "busy". tongue.gif Hopefully tomorrow afternoon is not hot as F, so i can work on it.

Anyway Unseen83, you can unlock Fury X memory overclock by enabling "Extend official overclock limits" in Msi Afterburner.
Voltage coming soon, Unwinder already got his hand on Fury X.
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awh nooo i don't like msi AF... got black screen history with mee... sad.gif x i'm scare.. to use that.

By way your looking AMD R9 Fury X RM2.4K fellow is from Kelantan.. he buy test/bench for week than sell...
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3634633&hl=
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hm i just Enable HBM memory OC.. i did not touch GPU core or Tessellation control.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5299741 Gpu Core /Mem 1050 / 520mhz

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5299827 GPU core/Mem 1,050 /540mhz

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5299877 This GPU core/Mem OC 1,100mhz/540mhz

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5299926 Gpu core / Mem 1,115mhz / 550mhz

must be error or something, why higher clock get lower G.score.. ehh doh.gif

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jul 4 2015, 06:29 PM)
conclusion, mantle become manta style aka illusion

amd fanboys pls ask samsung & microsoft buy the company.
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laugh.gif amd fanboy where's mantle & where's vulkan? butthurt..
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jul 4 2015, 08:39 PM)
laugh.gif amd fanboy where's mantle & where's vulkan? butthurt..
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Im no fanboys, except for you who troll here. I use both vendor, Intel and AMD, AMD and nvidia. But if you know what vulkan is you shouldnt ask that question in the first place.
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 4 2015, 08:55 PM)
Im no fanboys, except for you who troll here. I use both vendor, Intel and AMD, AMD and nvidia. But if you know what vulkan is you shouldnt ask that question in the first place.
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i just report him for trolling, taunt and Flaming on the threads.. please be kind do same, you have good evening smile.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 4 2015, 09:06 PM)
i just report him for trolling, taunt and Flaming on the threads.. please be kind do same, you have good evening smile.gif
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I just did, thanks. You have a good evening too. Im quite jelly that you got the Fury X but Im not really looking for an upgrade, 290X are fine for my needs. But the temperature improvement is great. Maybe I should bought those AIO adapter for my card.
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i just report him for trolling, taunt and Flaming on the threads.. please be kind do same, you have good evening smile.gif
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Seriously? Than you should have been banned long time ago.
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 4 2015, 09:16 PM)
I just did, thanks. You have a good evening too. Im quite jelly that you got the Fury X but Im not really looking for an upgrade, 290X are fine for my needs. But the temperature improvement is great. Maybe I should bought those AIO adapter for my card.
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Still remember when Kraken G10 just launch, it don't work too well with 290x cause the VRM is not cooled and can get hot to over 100C when loaded.

If you go for this path, I think better have some modding and add dedicated fans + heatsink for VRM.

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I just did, thanks. You have a good evening too. Im quite jelly that you got the Fury X but Im not really looking for an upgrade, 290X are fine for my needs. But the temperature improvement is great. Maybe I should bought those AIO adapter for my card.
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If u have 1080p than fury X is lackluster on that resolution.
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 4 2015, 09:16 PM)
I just did, thanks. You have a good evening too. Im quite jelly that you got the Fury X but Im not really looking for an upgrade, 290X are fine for my needs. But the temperature improvement is great. Maybe I should bought those AIO adapter for my card.
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im using artic accelero hybrid for both of my r9 290s.. with +50mv, max core temp at 58c, max vrm temp at 78c... heatsink already included with the package. but its EOL already.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jul 4 2015, 08:39 PM)
laugh.gif amd fanboy where's mantle & where's vulkan? butthurt..
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doh.gif
*uses AMD card* = fanboy/fangirl or fanatic

What kind of logic is that lol? tongue.gif

It's like saying "You use car A,so you're an A fanboy/fangirl/fanatic.".

Come on la,if you use an Intel or AMD for CPU,NVidia or AMD for GPU,it doesn't mean you're what i mentioned above.

Don't go out there and call a person an Intel fanboy/fangirl/fanatic just for using e.g. intel.You'll never know. nod.gif

QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 4 2015, 09:16 PM)
I just did, thanks. You have a good evening too. Im quite jelly that you got the Fury X but Im not really looking for an upgrade, 290X are fine for my needs. But the temperature improvement is great. Maybe I should bought those AIO adapter for my card.
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I guess you're waiting for Arctic Islands(?) for AMD or Pascal for NVidia then only you'll upgrade,huh? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jul 4 2015, 10:57 PM)
y must we use AMD cpu? since where's the new AMD processor?  hmm.gif if there's hiccups on AMD y need to hide like tikus? those who reported memang r AMD fan SI no doubt. don't tell me that both fella not AMD supporter sound better??

i just asked them where's mantle & where's vulkan only? y so gigi sakit?
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laugh.gif Lol as if there's no one using them,sifu kentang emas has the FX8350 IINM. tongue.gif

You called Najmods an AMD fanboy and said he's butthurt. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 4 2015, 11:08 PM)
laugh.gif Lol as if there's no one using them,sifu kentang emas has the FX8350 IINM. tongue.gif

You called Najmods an AMD fanboy and said he's butthurt. whistling.gif
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since he stated not fanboy so won't butthurt one.. sifu emas kentang doin reviews sure hampalang any brands also need to test.

they talked more sense not pay by certain brands

even this guy also said MANTEL is mati but i know vulkan another story.
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 4 2015, 09:16 PM)
I just did, thanks. You have a good evening too. Im quite jelly that you got the Fury X but Im not really looking for an upgrade, 290X are fine for my needs. But the temperature improvement is great. Maybe I should bought those AIO adapter for my card.
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good.. Fanatic don't give intention if do, it only encourage them. Fury X is not all that smile.gif and sorry if cause you jelly.. if i win lottery i buy everyone one AMD Radeon threads a Fury X.. if there a stock.. wait for AMD Fury where boards partner may custom/tweak it.. or get GTX 980 Ti is best to get what benchmark icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Desprado @ Jul 4 2015, 09:20 PM)
Seriously? Than you should have been banned long time ago.
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i did.. different between me and you i learn my lesson.. i move on as i have a lot going on in my real life icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jul 4 2015, 10:57 PM)
y must we use AMD cpu? since where's the new AMD processor?  hmm.gif if there's hiccups on AMD y need to hide like tikus? those who reported memang r AMD fan SI no doubt. don't tell me that both fella not AMD supporter sound better??

i just asked them where's mantle & where's vulkan only? y so gigi sakit?
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Question... when there only just Nvidia... AMD gone byebye... so how much would you pay for a mid tier GPU for gaming ? you ever wonder how much it will be... hmm.gif when there no competitor.. unless you have Rich parent with large bank account.. so no worried than...
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 4 2015, 11:45 PM)
good..  Fanatic don't give intention if do, it only encourage them.  Fury X is not all that smile.gif and sorry if  cause you jelly.. if i win lottery i buy everyone one AMD Radeon threads a Fury X.. if there a stock..  wait for AMD Fury where boards partner may custom/tweak it..  or get GTX 980 Ti is best to get what benchmark  icon_rolleyes.gif
i did.. different between me and you i learn my lesson.. i move on as i have a lot going on in my real life  icon_rolleyes.gif 
Question... when there only just Nvidia... AMD gone byebye...  so how much would you pay for a mid tier GPU for gaming ?  you ever wonder how much it will be...  hmm.gif  when there no competitor..  unless you have Rich parent with large bank account.. so no worried than...
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AMD impossible baibai cos got Samsung + Microsoft rite? if i can't afford for gaming then i'll no choice but to go back find DJ Soda quit no PC life.


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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 4 2015, 11:45 PM)
good..  Fanatic don't give intention if do, it only encourage them.  Fury X is not all that smile.gif and sorry if  cause you jelly.. if i win lottery i buy everyone one AMD Radeon threads a Fury X.. if there a stock..  wait for AMD Fury where boards partner may custom/tweak it..  or get GTX 980 Ti is best to get what benchmark  icon_rolleyes.gif
i did.. different between me and you i learn my lesson.. i move on as i have a lot going on in my real life  icon_rolleyes.gif 
Question... when there only just Nvidia... AMD gone byebye...  so how much would you pay for a mid tier GPU for gaming ?  you ever wonder how much it will be...  hmm.gif  when there no competitor..  unless you have Rich parent with large bank account.. so no worried than...
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Yup many AMD fanboys learn their lesson after Fury X launch.
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 4 2015, 10:21 PM)
doh.gif
*uses AMD card* = fanboy/fangirl or fanatic

What kind of logic is that lol? tongue.gif

It's like saying "You use car A,so you're an A fanboy/fangirl/fanatic.".

Come on la,if you use an Intel or AMD for CPU,NVidia or AMD for GPU,it doesn't mean you're what i mentioned above.

Don't go out there and call a person an Intel fanboy/fangirl/fanatic just for using e.g. intel.You'll never know. nod.gif

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haha for love sake Most AMD user is peace/open minded.. we been branded by other as AMD fan.. lolx just because using AMD gpu.. and what funny they come on here post taunt/flaming/troll purpose.. hope Report button work.. cause word weight nothing to them.
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The reason why Im using AMD is because GTX 970 memory fiasco. The thing I read on the web isnt pretty, like nvidia drops performance tweak on Kepler is just too much. On AMD side isnt that much prettier where the frame rate limiter is only limited to Fury cards, but a simple registry tweak could enable it on any cards (just like VSR on older cards). AMD cards IMO are more cater towards enthusiasts because they promote tweaking, but a lot of people just annoyed because they dont incude things mentioned as default.
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 5 2015, 05:28 AM)
The reason why Im using AMD is because GTX 970 memory fiasco. The thing I read on the web isnt pretty, like nvidia drops performance tweak on Kepler is just too much. On AMD side isnt that much prettier where the frame rate limiter is only limited to Fury cards, but a simple registry tweak could enable it on any cards (just like VSR on older cards). AMD cards IMO are more cater towards enthusiasts because they promote tweaking, but a lot of people just annoyed because they dont incude things mentioned as default.
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promote tweaking but lock fury x memory OC doh.gif

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jul 5 2015, 06:00 AM)
promote tweaking but lock fury x memory OC doh.gif
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Its a temporary lockdown. It will be unlock eventually.

Anyway I would like to thank anyone who advice me regarding the AIO adapter earlier. The VRM is one tough cookie to cool down.
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When someone is overprotective with certain brand, then you know that is something wrong.

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It looks like we might be seeing custom AIB cards from day 1 for the Fury. All the more reason why Fury images were not release. I could be wrong tho.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/46300/pricin...aked/index.html


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Yes, according to TTL, he saw some mockups/prototypes of the Fury in all its custom glory.
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jul 5 2015, 10:58 AM)
It looks like we might be seeing custom AIB cards from day 1 for the Fury. All the more reason why Fury images were not release. I could be wrong tho.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/46300/pricin...aked/index.html
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Pricing doesn't sound right, considering a custom 980Ti costs about the same... hmm.gif
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typically, euro prices are bit higher
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I read it as 700USD... sweat.gif

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Asus strix certainly will cool down this beast well, hand itchy to buy r9 fury but my CPU is still FX8350 scared will bottleneck this beast. Hopefully dx12 will improve fx cpu performance hopefully hahahahaha.....
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 5 2015, 12:54 PM)
Asus strix certainly will cool down this beast well, hand itchy to buy r9 fury but my CPU is still FX8350 scared will bottleneck this beast. Hopefully dx12 will improve fx cpu performance hopefully hahahahaha.....
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Imagine Fury with Vapor-X cooler? brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jul 5 2015, 12:56 PM)
I'm waiting to see how Sapphire 'remix' the Fury... brows.gif

Imagine Fury with Vapor-X cooler? brows.gif brows.gif
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yeah vapor x will certainly improve cooling to the max on air, damn fury x so tempting wub.gif . Id say air cooled fury will certainly give the 980ti a run for its money thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 5 2015, 01:04 PM)
yeah vapor x will certainly improve cooling to the max on air, damn fury x so tempting  wub.gif . Id say air cooled fury will certainly give the 980ti a run for its money  thumbup.gif
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I doubt that..the 980Ti is way faster..with all we have seen air id say cooled fury would still be ahead of GTx 980 and 390x. Maybe it might be better on price/perf ratio
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QUOTE(area61 @ Jul 5 2015, 01:30 PM)
I doubt that..the 980Ti is way faster..with all we have seen air id say cooled fury would still be ahead of GTx 980 and 390x. Maybe it might be better on price/perf ratio
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most benchmarks i saw its like slight margin of difference its not that far from the 980ti, yeah ur right price/performance will be spot on on air cooled
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 5 2015, 01:04 PM)
yeah vapor x will certainly improve cooling to the max on air, damn fury x so tempting  wub.gif . Id say air cooled fury will certainly give the 980ti a run for its money  thumbup.gif
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Fury non X is a cut die on some stream processor, and run on air cooling.

If Fury X can't get a clear win on 980TI, I seriously doubt Fury Vanilla can do so, just saying.
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 5 2015, 12:54 PM)
Asus strix certainly will cool down this beast well, hand itchy to buy r9 fury but my CPU is still FX8350 scared will bottleneck this beast. Hopefully dx12 will improve fx cpu performance hopefully hahahahaha.....
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i dont think 8350 will bottleneck a single fury x.. last time i used it with 290s no issue at all. but for sure 8350 need to be overclock.
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you guys saw the design ASUS STRIX III with triple Fan ... maybe that's for AMD Fury (non X) yes i saw it for 980 Ti too..

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Fiji Pro with only 3584 Stream Process /56 Compute hm but price 550USD i could really see it on Vapor X.. smile.gif

http://wccftech.com/wip-amd-r9-fury-3584-g...eam-processors/

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jul 5 2015, 06:00 AM)
promote tweaking but lock fury x memory OC doh.gif
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MSI AF activate it... reason it lock 1)beta driver 2) New TEch HBM

bro: i post some 3dmark.. bench on it eh... not alot and i see it hit limit on mem i can clock.. +60Mhz on Mem and +75Mhz Core any higher Benchmark crash.. doh.gif

QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 5 2015, 06:08 AM)
Its a temporary lockdown. It will be unlock eventually.

Anyway I would like to thank anyone who advice me regarding the AIO adapter earlier. The VRM is one tough cookie to cool down.
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MSI AF activate it.. i have unlock it smile.gif but.. is average clock.. i manage to get 560Mhz mem without crashing the benchmark.. this with Core clock to 1125Mhz.. x

But there Gentleman name of # royfrosty on overclock net up load his benchmark score for game...
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 5 2015, 05:56 PM)
MSI AF activate it...  reason it lock 1)beta driver 2) New TEch HBM

bro: i post some 3dmark.. bench on it eh... not alot and i see it hit limit on mem i can clock.. +60Mhz on Mem and +75Mhz Core  any higher Benchmark crash..  doh.gif
MSI AF activate it.. i have unlock it smile.gif but.. is average clock.. i manage to get 560Mhz mem without crashing the benchmark.. this with Core clock to 1125Mhz.. x

But there Gentleman name of # royfrosty on overclock net up load his benchmark score for game...
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whats holding back the core clock bro ? Cannot up the voltage ya

I heard this card got dual bios , have you tried custom bios if there is one ?
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jul 5 2015, 09:02 PM)
whats holding back the core clock bro ? Cannot up the voltage ya

I heard this card got dual bios , have you tried custom bios if there is one ?
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hm FEAR... sad.gif when boost Core/Mem 1,130Mhz/600Mhz Volt 40% it got artifact so i default it Find safest (without Crash Benchmark/Artifact) is Core/Mem1124mhz/560Mhz. so weird temp under 55C during load..

yeah got dual bios.. able to reset incase i screw up bios it auto restore.. but not gone to that blue/black screen yet.. eh scare la.. i think i wait when time fury X is more available market so i can RMA just in case i over do it.. but at moment is solid.. but wish i could break 19K Graphic score on 3dmark

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Currently getting ready for games like FO4 end of this year. 380/380x/390 worth getting over their predecessors? 280x/290x? Got big diff worth the price between them?
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Jul 6 2015, 12:19 AM)
Currently getting ready for games like FO4 end of this year. 380/380x/390 worth getting over their predecessors? 280x/290x? Got big diff worth the price between them?
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hello, saw signature your using Nvidia.. hm why don't you go for GTX 970 if your gaming on 1080P it should serve you well.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Jul 6 2015, 12:19 AM)
Currently getting ready for games like FO4 end of this year. 380/380x/390 worth getting over their predecessors? 280x/290x? Got big diff worth the price between them?
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hurm..8gb vs 4gb..even though the difference is quite large..but framerate for 1080p game is not to much difference around 2-5fps..if u got money buy r9 390x(RM1650++)..if ur budget is tight get a r9 290x(RM1300++)

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QUOTE(crash123 @ Jul 6 2015, 12:31 AM)
hurm..8gb vs 4gb..even though the difference is quite large..but framerate for 1080p game is not to much difference around 2-5fps..if u got money buy r9 390x(RM1650++)..if ur budget is tight get a r9 290x(RM1300++)
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Memory size don't affect frame-rate when games don't eat over the memory limit.

8GB is a little overkill for 1080p but again, the general rule is the more the better, who knows one day you might consider a multi cards setup or interested with some heavy mods/textures in game, those are time where huge VRAM cards will shine over the default cards.

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jul 6 2015, 12:27 AM)
hello,  saw signature your using Nvidia..  hm why don't you go for GTX 970 if your gaming on 1080P it should serve you well..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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im not very up to date with nvidia stuff tongue.gif I dont know what I should get for nvidia been following amd since forever. Im also on tight budgets so unless nvidia has better options at same price as 280x I'll have to stick to AMD.

QUOTE(crash123 @ Jul 6 2015, 12:31 AM)
hurm..8gb vs 4gb..even though the difference is quite large..but framerate for 1080p game is not to much difference around 2-5fps..if u got money buy r9 390x(RM1650++)..if ur budget is tight get a r9 290x(RM1300++)
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mm icic, I think i'll just go for the old gen, not much worth the difference.

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