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AMD Radeon™ Discussion V13, Radeon Software 16.5.3, God Speed
AMD Radeon™ Discussion V13, Radeon Software 16.5.3, God Speed
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Jun 25 2015, 02:02 AM
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Jun 25 2015, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 25 2015, 05:52 AM) I don't think AMD failed to deliver, they actually brave enough to invest on HBM and get it into market first. That alone is a credit. Just like they did with GDDR5. Only this time their involvement in HBM is more direct. Yeah, I agree. BTW, I'm from the beginning did feels very skeptical that Fury X can beat Titan X because the're using new tech.Despite alot of problem in manufacturing the chip, they manage to at least match the 980Ti performance, and the best part their pricing is still lower than 980Ti. Maybe our expectation is too high on AMD for this card to beat the Titan X. For sure nvidia Pascal is more mature product when it is release, but AMD will have the upper hand in terms of experience and familiarities with HBM technology. QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 06:58 AM) lol what how come its tottaly different from what amd benchmark themselves You probably missed that overclock was with stock voltage. Once MSI AB & alike give use voltage control, we'll see how high Fury X can go.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I'm so glad I followed your rant about the card and be skeptic about it . My next card going to be 980 ti for sure To thought that watercooling would actually benefit fury x in terms of overclocking but mere 5% increase |
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Jun 25 2015, 07:35 PM
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Jun 25 2015, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 07:50 PM) for 970 ? Disrespect? No la. Haha. 1587/118 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7439068 I think my post kinda disrespect amd thread but where have the new fury x owner gone to ??? Enjoying the card is it This post has been edited by kizwan: Jun 25 2015, 07:59 PM |
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Jun 25 2015, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 25 2015, 09:20 PM) A bit scared kena marah dengan taiko post nvidia crap on amd thread . Really tempted purchasing fury even want to go for trip to kl Don't worry about it. screw postage |
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Jun 26 2015, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 26 2015, 09:59 AM) You don't need AA when on 4K la. Agree with you there.Anyway I've already tested the Fury X. It's a nice piece of device but the performance is variance is huge when compared to GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti. QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 26 2015, 11:03 AM) Bro is it true they said the drivers reviewer used to benchmark fury x is the older driver not intended for the card for optimum performance and there is latest version out now It's true some reviewer used older driver like 14.12 & some also use 15.6 beta but the correct driver for 390/Fury & the latest is 15.15 beta. I'm not comparing performance here but only noted the driver versions.which improve the performance ? |
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Jun 27 2015, 03:24 AM
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Wow... 200 over 100 is High Blood Pressure (Hypertension) Stage 2
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Jun 30 2015, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 30 2015, 01:40 AM) Exactly the same thing, just that I probably went through more shit. Eew...did they not test the card before packaging? Yours is Sapphire right?I lost many hours of sleep and benchmark / article time. 3 hours ah? I spent some 6 hours at least. My rig works with R9 295X2 / R9 270X / R7 250 / R9 280X / GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti / GTX 970. 1st card. R9 390X. Screen goes crazy. Manage to benchmark with Beta 15.5. Stress test OK, Windows is where things go shitty. I didn't use the driver from the CD. 4K didn't work, black screen. 2nd Card. R9 390. Black screen. WTH. OK fine. Not working. Changed CPU / MOBO / PSU / Drive / Install fresh and whatever - nope, not working. Fine, got the R9 Fury X. Installed driver from CD because whatever on the AMD site doesn't work. OK done. Works flawlessly. Tried the R9 390X now - Oh ok it works. Finally I get to bench it on 4K with no glitches. Now tried R9 390 - same shit. Arggh. Downgrade drivers / Upgrade drivers, nope didn't work. R7 370. Absolutely no problem. Final thoughts - AMD released quite some shitty stuff, I don't even know how to write about it. I didn't do any video like what he did because I am not a good presenter and I thought it could be a faulty card. My last encounter was just 2 hours ago, tried the R9 390 - black screen. Decided to install drivers from the box, booted with my R7 250. Installed the drivers and switched card. This time the card reaches Windows 8.1 but the screen goes black once drivers loaded. QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 30 2015, 05:47 AM) Black screen issue is not something new for Hawaii, my prime suspect for it is the memory controller because for some odd reason it's very sensitive to core voltage. My previous MSI TwinFrozr 290 gave me headache where I can't even undervolt more than 12mV without it getting black screened, my current 290X is more stable, undervolt 37mV no problem at all (both at it's factory clockspeed). On 390/X where they boosted the memory by 1GHz more than 290/X it's not going to be pretty. When I overclocked my card to 390X speeds, some time it worked with 38mV voltage increase, some other time it black screened and need 50mV to be stable. That's suck. I'm lucky because my cards don't have black screen problem, either with hdmi or dp. If your card have problem with +38mV, did your card unable to overclock at all? |
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Jun 30 2015, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 30 2015, 11:33 AM) In any case, this is AMD fault in the first place. AMD doesnt even officially 'recognize' the issue for the 290x and 290 is related to voltage issue. The problem is not all black screens are fixable with voltage. Some people unable to fix the black screen with voltage but increasing power limit did fixed the black screen for them. Some cards not fixable at all & RMA is the only choice. There's no one solution worked for all. Also not to forget there's many cards don't have black screen problem at all. The 390/390X black screen a bit different, more towards to buggy BIOS.AMD did acknowledge the issue by claiming it is fixable by driver and yes, it did....... QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 30 2015, 11:52 AM) No, what I mean is it needs that voltage to reach 390X speeds. I can overclock the card without voltage increase, around 1070 for core and 1400 memory. Havent tested much because I only do benching. When gaming I underclock and undervolt. I meant overclock with overvoltage of course. So yours basically can't overclock when overvoltage? Or at least not stable. Yeah, this is not strange though because I read a couple of guys having black screen issue when overclocking past certain voltage. |
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Jun 30 2015, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 12:31 PM) Correct me if im wrong. Was talking with friend and below topic comes out. Nah, the PSU only supply the amount of power needed by your computer hardware. The "850W" is the maximum rated power the PSU can supply, not the amount of power the PSU will supply all the time. Basically, for example if the components in your computer only need 400W, then the PSU will supply 400W.His power supply 850 watts. He said choose nvdia will saves power. But no matter you choose which card, your power input/consumption is 850 watts. Am i right ? This post has been edited by kizwan: Jun 30 2015, 12:40 PM |
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Jun 30 2015, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 01:19 PM) One of my friend said (Electronic background) You need to know the amount of watts pulling from the wall. From the data above, I can conclude that the first bill higher because the amount of watts pull from the wall is higher than the second bill. During conversion (Power supplies convert one voltage to another), some energy will be wasted as heat. It's about efficiency. Efficiency describes just how much energy is lost as heat. Higher efficiency means less waste. The 850W PSU in the above example have pretty bad efficiency.How to explain this bill (bill price is dummy data) : 850W PS --> Use 250W ---> Bill is RM 400 500W PS --> use 250W ---> Bill is RM 250 Note : Please ignore other household appliance. We are doing comparison. |
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Jun 30 2015, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 02:13 PM) The 250W is the amount of watts output by the PSU. You forgot the amount of watts pulled from the wall to generate that 250W for the computer components. Power utility company bill you based on the amount of watts pulled from the wall.For example, let say the 500W PSU have 80% efficiency rating & the 850W PSU have 60% efficiency rating. Which mean:- 850W PSU (watts pulling from the wall) = 250W / 60% = ~417W 500W PSU (watts pulling from the wall) = 250W / 80% = ~312.5W Above example explained why the bill with 850W PSU is higher than the 500W PSU. |
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Jun 30 2015, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2015, 02:34 PM) Like I said, the 850W PSU in your example have pretty bad efficiency. If both 500W & 850W PSU have same rated efficiency, e.g. 80+ GOLD 500W & 850W PSU, the amount of bill you need to pay when using 850W PSU is no higher than the bill with 500W PSU, provided that the computer power consumption (drawn from the PSU) is the same.This post has been edited by kizwan: Jun 30 2015, 03:06 PM |
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I don't think pixel format visible when using dp.
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Jul 1 2015, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jul 1 2015, 08:45 AM) does AMD driver have no issues with RGB 0-255? Does it detect your monitor as LCD TV or PC monitor? That happened because of the monitor. Some monitors I found by default set to TV instead of PC (monitor) which you can change in the monitor OSD setup menu.Because nvidia haven't fixed this yet. When you hook up your monitor through hdmi, the RGB will be limited to 16-235. As this is the default standard for HDMI devices. Normal for LCD TV. QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 1 2015, 10:45 AM) By default it will use YCbCr 4:4:4. (or RGB 4:4:4: Pixel Format PC Standard (Full RGB) in some beta driver i've used) Can you use Full RGB with VSR? |
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Jul 1 2015, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jul 1 2015, 01:16 PM) In my case, it's the monitor. FYI, with some monitors you can change between TV & PC (monitor) in the OCD setup menu. Some monitors set it to TV by default. So it is actually not hdmi interface issue because if it is all people will have this problem. Nothing change in HDMI specs though. Currently people either using HDMI 1.4 or 2.0 cable. The issue happened either because of the monitor (default set to TV) or the driver failed to auto-detect the monitor type properly.This post has been edited by kizwan: Jul 1 2015, 01:39 PM |
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Funny, I'm reading 390/390X club at ocn but didn't come across any user yet having problem booting the card in their computer. Many have MSI 390 too there.
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If the PC was assembled by the shop, then bring the whole PC. If not, just bring the GPU.
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