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TSWildChai
post Feb 24 2006, 02:32 PM, updated 16y ago

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Anyone here working for the oil/gas industry? Share some of yur experience...those abroad and local.


Links to some of the Oil and Gas related companies that most likely will hire locally. Check their Career sections in their websites to apply.
Good Luck! If you want to add other companies, please PM me the link.

Helpful Sites

OilCareers Community Forum ~ Gives you an idea the type of jobs and it's description available in the market


Local and Regional Oil Companies

ExxonMobil, United States
Petronas, Malaysia
Sinopec, China
SPC, Singapore
Shell, Malaysia



Oil Service Companies

Aker Kvaerver
Baker Hughes Inc.
BJ Services
Geoservices
Halliburton
QServ
Schlumberger
Weatherford International
WesternGeco
Chiyoda Corporation (Japan & Malaysia)



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post Feb 25 2006, 12:46 PM

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post Feb 25 2006, 01:00 PM

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high salary, good benefit, alot of training, business travelling...
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Working in oil and gas industry has one most shining benefit, a large sum of bonus, maybe more than 6 months.
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maaakkk aaihhh 6 month of bonus oh my god....
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Greetings threadstarter,

I have a friend who really involved in the Oil & Gas Career Line and now he is earnings quite a good amount for income and now he was being sent to Australia for traning purposes.

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post Feb 25 2006, 04:58 PM

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Wha qualifications do you have and in which line do yu intend to enter the oil n gas industry. Perhaps a bit more specifics would help us narrow it down regarding info in the oil & gas industry. Not all of it is good.
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post Feb 25 2006, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Noyze @ Feb 25 2006, 04:58 PM)
Wha qualifications do you have and in which line do yu intend to enter the oil n gas industry. Perhaps a bit more specifics would help us narrow it down regarding info in the oil & gas industry. Not all of it is good.
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At Pxxxxxxs, everyone have the same benefit, everyone have alot of chances to do training, etc... juz salary not the same... high risk job (at oil rig) and high position (manager etc) will get high salary...for sure..

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i wish i had taken petroluem related courses
salries in other fields really cannot survive
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Interested in getting a job in Oil&Gas Industry.

Well, good interest.

Oil & Gas industry is regarded as one of the highest paid industry.

I'm working with a travel agency and I'm dealing with sales from Oil & Gas companies.

Got to know many of them - engineers, and they are earning on average RM 5000 above a month.

Managerial level pays about RM 15,000 per month.

Example, a Rig Manager can pull in an income of RM 17,000 a month in this company I know. WOW!.. Impressive, thats like more than my one year salary.! smile.gif

But, think of it.

Bring a rig manager, you need to take care of an offshore rig of more than 500 people.
You need to ensure the safety, their traveling needs, their trainings, their well beings in general.

Any problem is YOU only. SO why the high pay? There is a HIGH Risk.

Even those working on the rig. They can pull in RM 500 average a DAY! I mean a DAY!... Wow... impressive huh..

phew.. nice huh.. so go.. work with Shell, or ExxonMobil.. haha
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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Feb 25 2006, 01:43 PM)
maaakkk aaihhh 6 month of bonus oh my god....
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Last year, all PETRONAS staff got 6 months bonus shocking.gif
Now you tell me oil & gas career good or not
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oh my ........ got to send resume to petronas asap huhuhuhu
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post Feb 26 2006, 11:03 PM

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Example, a Rig Manager can pull in an income of RM 17,000 a month in this company I know. WOW!.. Impressive, thats like more than my one year salary.! smile.gif


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Rm 17K for a rig manager are consider very low...
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my bro is in the oil n gas, just started not long ago. Petronas is good for those not looking for hard work.

It's better to go abroad for offshore work, they pay very well, for instance...basic RM9000, DAILY offshore allowance ranges from RM 300 to RM 700. (estimate for trainee engineer in wireline)

Some of them earns like RM 30k to RM40k a month. It's not exactly a high risk job...since they are very very particular about safety.

Although i'm in the IT industry now...planning to go abroad soon to join the black gold industry....hehe...hope can reel in the big bucks!

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er.. lolx 17k? dude try being a sailor, Marine navigator, there is shortage of them Worlwide.

And guess how much is the lowest paid in Malaysia right now? Lowest paid marine Captain is offered by a company in Miri and it is only 27K per month. However, almost no marine capt would sink that low to get a job. They might have upped it a bit the past few months.

So that would be ur best bet. Go be a marine captain then ppl will come look for you.

Overall petronas is just a safe option for ppl who wanna work in oil and gas, working there would be just like in the gov lah lolx all relax only lolx. But in the end you won't learn much.

And this remark, I've heard from quite a number of seniors in the Industry. They have been working for more than 40 yrs in the Oil and Gas industry and are still called back in as consultants, etc. cos the new breed of workers dun seem to know anything apparently lolx
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QUOTE(Noyze @ Feb 27 2006, 03:46 PM)

Overall petronas is just a safe option for ppl who wanna work in oil and gas, working there would be just like in the gov lah lolx all relax only lolx. But in the end you won't learn much.


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Im not agree smile.gif
The ppl who work with relax are that particular person's attitude, not all employee have tht attitude.
although petronas is part of goverment but it actually work as a private company.

The training courses that provide for the employees is one of the best in the world, can u imagine the company can spend rm30K on a person to do training? (a year)

But i do agree tht u said the company is a safe place to work.
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The training courses that provide for the employees is one of the best in the world, can u imagine the company can spend rm30K on a person to do training? (a year)

But i do agree tht u said the company is a safe place to work.
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ALL oil and service companies spend a bomb on training their new employees. For instance...trainees in weatherford are sent to scotland or canada for training. So does schlumberger.
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Forrest....
u working for petronas? what's your position there..interested to know more about all working in the oil/gas.
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i wish i had taken petroluem related courses
salries in other fields really cannot survive
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Keeps me wondering what will happen if Malaysia's oil fields are exhausted. Heard that all of the oil fields will dry up in about 20 years.

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I have a senior who graduated and worked for 2 years already, he is in one of the oil and gas company too.

He's earning basic USD4k a month, then plus daily allowance, project completion bonus, adds up all, he gets around USD10k a month. He already has 3 property, getting his fourth one soon.

Another senior of mine, graduated 6 months earlier than me, he oso in oil and gas. Getting around RM700 a day as a field engineer.
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My dad has been in the oil and gas industry for more than 26 years. He's in management at the moment and it's a little dangerous. Depends on where you're based, and all that. Great pay though.
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QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Mar 1 2006, 01:41 PM)
I have a senior who graduated and worked for 2 years already, he is in one of the oil and gas company too.

He's earning basic USD4k a month, then plus daily allowance, project completion bonus, adds up all, he gets around USD10k a month. He already has 3 property, getting his fourth one soon.

Another senior of mine, graduated 6 months earlier than me, he oso in oil and gas. Getting around RM700 a day as a field engineer.
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USD900 per day, but he didnt go, bcoz he dun want to sacrifi his family.
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Forrest....
u working for petronas? what's your position there..interested to know more about all working in the oil/gas.
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Mar 1 2006, 04:08 PM)
My dad has been in the oil and gas industry for more than 26 years. He's in management at the moment and it's a little dangerous. Depends on where you're based, and all that. Great pay though.
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then u must be a rich man son.......nowonder can buy lotsa of man utd jersey.... biggrin.gif
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Keeps me wondering what will happen if Malaysia's oil fields are exhausted. Heard that all of the oil fields will dry up in about 20 years.
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proven reserves will exhaust soon, so need to search for the new reservoirs at local and oversea.... but the competition is very tight...need to fight with other mnc... so siapa cepat dia dapat, juz like the case between china and japan.
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do you think a PR/Management fresh grad like me can get job in this field? I willing to take MAJOR RISKS
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PR dont have to face any risks on this field, only office work ma smile.gif
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if i work in semiconductor field for few years then looking for new job in Oil & Gas Career
is it acceptable?
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QUOTE(TYK @ Mar 1 2006, 01:29 PM)
Keeps me wondering what will happen if Malaysia's oil fields are exhausted. Heard that all of the oil fields will dry up in about 20 years.
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Aiyoo, 20 years later youj earned alot liao lah... Some more I dun think you will stay there more than 10 years ..
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don't forget, we are a muslim country, got friends in Middle East mah. Haha...like that I go apply for PR job in Petronas once I graduate.
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This is the best time to go into oil/gas industry....especially offhsore job.
Like forrest said...competition is tight. Which means they are digging everywhere. Means more work. Means more moolah!

Daily allowance is excellent once you're experienced...say 4-5yrs. Tat's why alot of them would like to work offshore.

In malaysia...will last a decade more. Whole world is still roughly 3-4 decade. Better join the chase now.

Once you take on an desk job in oil/gas....your salary kena potong ALOT! no more daily allowance. There's this guy my bro told me...working in wireline for 20+ yrs. Driving Porsche Cayman S....got a Ferrari parked at his garage!! woohoo!
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Let's just say that it's a very competitive field. Of course, it's not as stabil as other jobs. You might have a job today, but you might not have a job tomorrow depending on how it goes.

You have to be very qualified to get a job in this field. Management people get a whole lot more if we're talking salary because they're running the whole deal. And like I said, it's a dangerous job. You get bonuses for it though.

Just remember one thing, if you do work in this field. Be prepared to be away from your family for a very long time. Most people don't get cushy jobs in Petronas getting to take normal leave and go home to their families everyday.


I'm not rich. I'm a poor guy earning a normal wage in KL tongue.gif
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then, does anyone know how to get into oil and gas company??
must got relation?? or read paper for vacancy??
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read the paper.
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I don't think jobstreet got any posting last i checked. If there is postings oso will only have those positions such as geoscientist, engineers and desk jobs.

To get into those jobs in the offshore, u need to expand your searches overseas. Or go to petronas or shell websites.

Ask forrest to help u get in....if possible?
what say u forrest?
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send your resume through the company website... im juz a small employee in tht company...
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does oil & gas company accept candidate who work in other engineering field for a few years?
or they mostly hire fresh graduate?
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normally they like freshie... but you can try your luck
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I'm totally not related to oil/gas. I major in Computer science...heh heh. What are the odds eh...computer ---> drilling
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working in oil&gas field consists of many parts.. the salary depends on which area u involve.. construction, consultation, procurement, engineering design, exploration, drilling, resevoiretc.. if onshore work, u'll get less pay, but u r close 24hrs to ur family, car, gf, lowyat, klcc, mamak, etc.. if offshore work or to be based oversea, u'll get better pay bcos of the allowance, but u'll sacrify and be missing ur family, car, foods, midvalley, gf, etc..
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Freshies are mostly for Petronas/Shell. But you certainly won't be working offshore and making the big bucks. LOL

Engineering? Well, the only thing I can think off is Chemical Engineering which is highly sought after in this field. Getting a good post (which is basically non Petronas/Shell) Gotta have connections.



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QUOTE(Putra78 @ Mar 3 2006, 11:27 AM)
working in oil&gas field consists of many parts.. the salary depends on which area u involve.. construction, consultation, procurement, engineering design, exploration, drilling, resevoiretc.. if onshore work, u'll get less pay, but u r close 24hrs to ur family, car, gf, lowyat, klcc, mamak, etc.. if offshore work or to be based oversea, u'll get better pay bcos of the allowance, but u'll sacrify and be missing ur family, car, foods, midvalley, gf, etc..
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Yeah...i was caught between a rock and a hard place when given the opportunity to work overseas. I have my family,gf of 4yrs here, friends. but i decided to accept the offer....wanna travel, work in a different field and earn a good living. But hey....at least we get plane tickets back home every year. And the off days are long....few weeks to months. Can come back then too.


QUOTE(refnulf @ Mar 3 2006, 11:51 AM)
Freshies are mostly for Petronas/Shell. But you certainly won't be working offshore and making the big bucks. LOL

Engineering? Well, the only thing I can think off is Chemical Engineering which is highly sought after in this field. Getting a good post (which is basically non Petronas/Shell) Gotta have connections.
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Yup, offshore is where the big bucks are. If no connections they wouldn't even look at u or your resume. It's especially difficult to get into companies overseas.

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mind to tell where did u apply to? I'm interested too... hahaha...
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You could try visiting Petronas or Shell website. Should have something in the career section.
Also try ExxonMobil...THE number 1 company in the world.
Also websites of other overseas company like Weatherford, Halliburton, Schlumberger....


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any sales/marketing related person in gas $ oil company here?
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Anyway, i would like to ask among the servicing companies (Halliburton, Weatherford, and Schlumbeger) which company provide the best training and salaries. And do the accept fresh graduates ? if yes, what the basic requirement need .. like a First Class or 2nd Class degree .. ? or other relevant skills ...
alrite , then bout their websites that i have visit... its is possible jus to email them our resume ? ?
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the basic salary i think its little, but the allowance is damm high.
but u need to think twice b4 accept it.if u dont go to offshores no allowance, so u only have basic.
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the basic salary i think its little, but the allowance is damm high.
but u need to think twice b4 accept it.if u dont go to offshores no allowance, so u only have basic.
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but wad are the chances u not going offshore?
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QUOTE(chuanseng @ Mar 17 2006, 05:43 PM)
Anyway, i would like to ask among the servicing companies (Halliburton, Weatherford, and Schlumbeger) which company provide the best training and salaries. And do the accept fresh graduates ? if yes, what the basic requirement need .. like a First Class or 2nd Class degree .. ? or other relevant skills ...
alrite , then bout their websites that i have visit... its is possible jus to email them our resume ? ?
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It all depends actually. By reputation and standards itself, the most sought after is Halliburton from what i hear.
As for the big blue...they got a reputation for hire, train and fire their employees at a blink of an eye.
The big red has quite a good rep too.

My apologies....the big blue a.k.a Schlumberger. the big red a.k.a. Weatherford.

Your degree level gives u an edge on your salary. it does make a difference...
It's best if there's an opening stated in their website. or search for oil/gas careers website.
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the basic salary i think its little, but the allowance is damm high.
but u need to think twice b4 accept it.if u dont go to offshores no allowance, so u only have basic.
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If u manage to work for the big companies and overseas. Your salary in RM is very very high. For beginners or trainees, u get paid like USD 2-4K basic. After training, they'll revise your basic salary again.

Offshore allowances are very good...depend on how long and level u r in. Like my previous posts. In 5 yrs working offshore, your pay can exceed RM20-30K a month.


QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Mar 17 2006, 06:30 PM)
but wad are the chances u not going offshore?
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If employees are dumb arses which can't learn squat and complaining alot. They will definitely NOT have a chance to go offshore often.

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my relatives work in petrol industries. they say good pay...


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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Mar 17 2006, 06:30 PM)
but wad are the chances u not going offshore?
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the chances is high when u are too lazy. but i donno yet, anyway wild ugpm smile.gif
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wild chai u nver really did mention wad position are u holding in the oil and gas company u're at rite now wink.gif

i'm really curious to know smile.gif

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family... that's the sacrifice... I only see my father for 1 week every 3 months...

pay depends on job .. like my dad he's just a regular technician.. usually work in oversea office.

IT also got chance to be in the OnG field as they need them to design production program, write calculation software.... or server operator.. it's an industry that offers vast jobs.


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QUOTE(refnulf @ Mar 3 2006, 11:51 AM)
Freshies are mostly for Petronas/Shell. But you certainly won't be working offshore and making the big bucks. LOL

Engineering? Well, the only thing I can think off is Chemical Engineering which is highly sought after in this field. Getting a good post (which is basically non Petronas/Shell) Gotta have connections.
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well I do think Mechanical engineers involved too....
as some of my seniors working with Petronas, Schlumberger(spelling correct?) at off shore....

I guess mechanical engineers that able to take petroleum as their major stand a bigger chance though.
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sounds really good...tempted!!!
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no doubt... oil n gas industry reli pay u good... my dad works as a safety exec in petronas doin simple little workload, preparing training materials etc got over 10k salary... now im trying to convince him to fit me in lolz but im a 'no paper' litle kid... he wants to push me offshore tho sweat.gif
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QUOTE(shakinbakin @ Mar 19 2006, 07:09 PM)
no doubt... oil n gas industry reli pay u good... my dad works as a safety exec in petronas doin simple little workload, preparing training materials etc got over 10k salary... now im trying to convince him to  fit me in lolz but im a 'no paper' litle kid... he wants to push me offshore tho sweat.gif
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my dads in oil gas, for the last 20+ years, and fell in and out of it. den his back in oil and gas, well i can certainly say he is enjoying oil and gas again.

but its not a good job if you want to be your own boss. you'll deff be under some one unless he starts his own company.

its a good paying job i can say, my dads a chemical engineer by the way.
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It all depends actually. By reputation and standards itself, the most sought after is Halliburton from what i hear.
As for the big blue...they got a reputation for hire, train and fire their employees at a blink of an eye.
The big red has quite a good rep too.

My apologies....the big blue a.k.a Schlumberger. the big red a.k.a. Weatherford.

Your degree level gives u an edge on your salary. it does make a difference...
It's best if there's an opening stated in their website. or search for oil/gas careers website.
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Working offshore is hard, I heard must work 48 hours non stop.
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Working offshore is hard, I heard must work 48 hours non stop.
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Heard from people again? come on ler......

I heard only need to work 2 hours a day.! doh.gif


Offshore shift normally is 12 hours. Normally is 6am to 6pm or 7am to 7pm

sometimes 11am to 11pm. And you have night shift also.
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Heard from people again? come on ler......

I heard only need to work  2 hours a day.!  doh.gif
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First u tell other people....and then u said it yourself! doh.gif

Mind you...there are peeps who works for 40hrs or more straight...with very little rest in between. If you don't know...don't say anything.

I know because i'm a field engineer.
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First u tell other people....and then u said it yourself!  doh.gif

Mind you...there are peeps who works for 40hrs or more straight...with very little rest in between. If you don't know...don't say anything.

I know because i'm a field engineer.
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so how bout working as IT call center in company like Exxonmobil? is it worth it?..how bout the pay, and career growth..

pls advice smile.gif
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oh my ........ got to send resume to petronas asap huhuhuhu
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can you guys provide the title for those guys who works offshore that gets lots of money ??? i mean you guys says offshore work pays a lot, but which job ???
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almost all the jobs brother........the point is to work OFFSHORE
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can you guys provide the title for those guys who works offshore that gets lots of money ??? i mean you guys says offshore work pays a lot, but which job ???
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some of the post are like petroleum engineer, drilling engineer..other i dont know.

now working as admin in oil & gas company. biggrin.gif
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some of the post are like petroleum engineer, drilling engineer..other i dont know.

now working as admin in oil & gas company. biggrin.gif
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Malaysia will run out of oil by 2011 tongue.gif Even Dubai is trying to switch it's main source of income from oil&gas to ultra luxurious tourism. It's oil&gas reserve is expected to run out by 2016.

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Now actually the best time to join the oil/gas industry.....since oil is more scarce....the competition to search for more oil intense....thus more jobs.


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my new job will be serving oil and gas industry client. the interviewer did told me that i might need to go offshore sometimes. so this consider in oil and gas industry or not?

however..my post is not those chemical engineer..just an IT Engineer. any opinion about such position.?
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I think its one of the best industry there is, unless of course when the oil resources run out.
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My dad has been in the Oil&Gas Industry for over 30 years now and retired at that. However, they have called him back and he works 10 days a month as a consultant. My DREAM job really.

Yes you can apply for Shell or Petronas, etc but did you know Shell's contract now is for only 2 years? After that u will be on review again. SO the best bet is to work for their contractors. You will learn so much more. In the end you will see that Shell and Petronas are not your best options.

As for being away from families that only applies to those who want to work offshore or work on site. i.e. Up-Stream. Basic is low but allowances are high.

However, you have to bear in mind that getting into oil & gas will not give you high salaries initially. We know that the position can easily be taken over by another grad who will be willing to work at a lower salary so why pay more? It's not really exploiting but more like an employers market not. We offer you low basic but we offer you allowances which will no doubt bring you money at the end of the month and it might be lower than your other friends who work in logistics and all that But wait a year or two then you will see how much more you can earn.

Keep in mind, here we're straight forward, if we dun like something we tell it to you straight. There's no time for BS and all that. If we find you slacking we have an easy solution. Just sack you and get someone else.

At times you will be bored in the office in between jobs on site. Other than that it doesn't last that long u might get maybe a few days rest between jobs then out you go again. This of course I'm speaking about the NDT engineering side of things.

Also you can enter into the marketing side of the industry but based in KL for now.

Currently I'm hunting for Abseilers (IRATA qualified). and mainly Abseiling Engineers. This guys are specialised in their field and among the highest earners. There is a shortage of these people and if any of you here are interested please mail me your resume. The shortage wil become more apparent when more and more companies phase out scaffolding, which is happening right now. Shell, Petronas, ADMA, Pertamina, etc are all phasing out scaffolding and are opting for abseiling as it is faster, much cheaper and so much safer.

As to getting in via recommendation, yes it's true you need to know someone to get in easier. Remember this might be a global industry but we are a small and close-knit community.
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Oil and Gas company will hire fresh grad or not ???
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Oil and Gas company will  hire fresh grad or not ???
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hey guy....i read all the posts and i got a question to ask

i dun have any inner contact for any OnG company

i'll be graduating next year..with electronic engineering majoring in mircowave and communication...with just 2nd class

currently i'm undergoing internship in one of the factory doing rubber line..and my daily job is to do ASP..

i can say i'll have basic knowledge in ASP developing

so i wanna ask...

is the chance high for me to go into OnG company

i dun mind onshore or offshore...as i'm willing to start small because i'm a fresh grad...

hope for reply from those who are working in OnG company

i dun mind any type of reply..positive or negetive...just voice out ur advice..

thanks in advance
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I will graduate in few more months with civil engineering.... can i work with Oil and Gas company with this degree? what is the minumun qualification required?
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if u r engineering student...(any courses)
ur chances to work in O&G is there...
there r many O&G comp. u can join..
end user...fabricator.. consultant or vendor....
its up to u to choose which one u like.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(daveteoh @ Nov 22 2006, 01:38 AM)
my new job will be serving oil and gas industry client. the interviewer did told me that i might need to go offshore sometimes. so this consider in oil and gas industry or not?

however..my post is not those chemical engineer..just an IT Engineer. any opinion about such position.?
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I'm also an IT Engineer working for a OnG company..we're not big though but our BIGGER brother is.. :-)...what company did you went for the interview daveteoh?

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even a school drop out can join....by becoming a routabout....ends up a companyman in 20 years time !!
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Hey all bros, I am interested to work offshore........able to leave my family to earn more for my family. Currently I am a service engineer in semiconductor field but without degree. Do I qualify to work in OnG company? If you company looking for people, please PM and I send you my resume. Thk you.
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even a school drop out can join....by becoming a routabout....ends up a companyman in 20 years time !!
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thats true rclxms.gif but by being a roustabout, as far as i know u need site working exp nowadays, if u dun hav exp but interested, u can start as a steward (galleyhand, laundry boy n room boy)

dun look down on the stewards, dey earn as much as rm2k n above depending on location/company policies. why? cos its at offshore la icon_rolleyes.gif
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IT Engineer? I am interested to join Oil and Gas company..my expertise end user support hardware/software..that day went to Nippon Oil interview..didnt get the job..but i know the boss kiasu...anyway..how to get in as IT guy?

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soon i'm going to go for my internship and
i'm doing mechanical engineering, major in Petroleum.
Hopefully =]
can you guys help me to list out those companies for me to apply for my
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currently i have Shell, Schlumberger and Sime Engineering in mind blush.gif
thank you

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QUOTE(butthafly @ Jan 7 2007, 07:26 PM)
soon i'm going to go for my internship and
i'm doing mechanical engineering, major in Petroleum.
Hopefully =]
can you guys help me to list out those companies for me to apply for my
practical training?
currently i have Shell, Schlumberger and Sime Engineering in mind  blush.gif
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What about exxon mobil ?
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QUOTE(butthafly @ Jan 7 2007, 07:26 PM)
soon i'm going to go for my internship and
i'm doing mechanical engineering, major in Petroleum.
Hopefully =]
can you guys help me to list out those companies for me to apply for my
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currently i have Shell, Schlumberger and Sime Engineering in mind  blush.gif
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hmmm... since u r petroleum student, i suggest u go for Titan, a well known company in south east asia...
u can also try for MMHE, malakoff, Sime darby engineering (not sime engineering), Tanjung Offshore, Vastalak, Ranhill, Kencana Oil, Sarawak Shell, MMC Oil Berhad etc... etc... u can search for oil company in Pasir Gudang Johor also... there are a lot of choice there...
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QUOTE(playerseeker @ Dec 8 2006, 11:35 AM)
hey guy....i read all the posts and i got a question to ask

i dun have any inner contact for any OnG company

i'll be graduating next year..with electronic engineering majoring in mircowave and communication...with just 2nd class

currently i'm undergoing internship in one of the factory doing rubber line..and my daily job is to do ASP..

i can say i'll have basic knowledge in ASP developing

so i wanna ask...

is the chance high for me to go into OnG company

i dun mind onshore or offshore...as i'm willing to start small because i'm a fresh grad...

hope for reply from those who are working in OnG company

i dun mind any type of reply..positive or negetive...just voice out ur advice..

thanks in advance
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talking about chances, there are alot of chances out there. it either u wanna grab it or not. the most important thing is to get familiar with the oil and gas industries in Malaysia. try to know as much oil and gas company (including their subcontractors and consultants as well). then, post your application by mail or email to human resource would be better). do not hesitate to post your application as much as you can (but only one to each company la...) because you should consider the probability of your chances to get qualified by their requirements or not.
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Gettin your internship done in malaysia is ok....if you are interested in making more money and willing to travel....then my advice is to go for companies abroad.

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Gettin your internship done in malaysia is ok....if you are interested in making more money and willing to travel....then my advice is to go for companies abroad.
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Internship in oversea company ?
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hiyor where can internship with overseas company. Im going to do my final year this year. This last holiday when im in my 3rd year sem break, was trying to get into few local oil and gas companies in miri. but yeahh nobody layan me.. since always say full. or maybe i apply to let. I imagine 1 day if hav available position to be engineer or not geez.. im undertaking chemical engineering also hard to find place for internship. Like this better work as air stewardess.. heheh....can see more leng chai.. geez..
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Gettin your internship done in malaysia is ok....if you are interested in making more money and willing to travel....then my advice is to go for companies abroad.
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wildchai, where r u working now? seem like u r in oversea.... what company ha? offshore drilling or onland drillling?
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I remember that wildchai working as open hole engineer that base at western sahara...
Open hole is something like when you drilling a hole, mud engineer need to control the stability of the well, offcourse the well is not been casing yet, we need to put mud inside the well to prevent the well from collapse and etc..., the well is kick or blowout is vital for the operation. Need to choose suitable mud, and maybe they will run wireline logging...LWD/MWD
Anyway, I will go for well sitting on this coming thursday...
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jan 9 2007, 11:41 PM)
I remember that wildchai working as open hole engineer that base at western sahara...
Open hole is something like when you drilling a hole, mud engineer need to control the stability of the well, offcourse the well is not been casing yet, we need to put mud inside the well to prevent the well from collapse and etc..., the well is kick or blowout is vital for the operation. Need to choose suitable mud, and maybe they will run wireline logging...LWD/MWD
Anyway, I will go for well sitting on this coming thursday...
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what is wireline logging? LWD/MWD?
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IT Engineer? I am interested to join Oil and Gas company..my expertise end user support hardware/software..that day went to Nippon Oil interview..didnt get the job..but i know the boss kiasu...anyway..how to get in as IT guy?
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Most Oil and Gas companies are outsourcing their IT division in order to focus on their core business which is the exploration and production side. Just giving you some info about the current market.
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jan 9 2007, 11:41 PM)
I remember that wildchai working as open hole engineer that base at western sahara...
Open hole is something like when you drilling a hole, mud engineer need to control the stability of the well, offcourse the well is not been casing yet, we need to put mud inside the well to prevent the well from collapse and etc..., the well is kick or blowout is vital for the operation. Need to choose suitable mud, and maybe they will run wireline logging...LWD/MWD
Anyway, I will go for well sitting on this coming thursday...
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hey forrest, u based in malaysia? what do u do?
i'm actually a wireline open hole engineer but i do cased hole too....now getting my hands on some specialty stuff.


@roslianefendy
like forrest said...i'm in the sahara now. wireline logging is acquiring petrophysical data through the use of logging equipment. and we handle radiation material and explosives. mega_shok.gif
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what is wireline logging? LWD/MWD?
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QUOTE(WildChai @ Jan 11 2007, 02:11 PM)
hey forrest, u based in malaysia? what do u do?
i'm actually a wireline open hole engineer but i do cased hole too....now getting my hands on some specialty stuff.
@roslianefendy
like forrest said...i'm in the sahara now. wireline logging is acquiring petrophysical data through the use of logging equipment.  and we handle radiation material and explosives.  mega_shok.gif
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My workscope bascially is do the interpretation on both geology and geophysics, intreprete the earth structure and locate the possibly reservoirs. Today just reach to the Transocean drilling rig located at offshore Terengganu for the wellsitting training, need to go through the drilling operation, mud logging, wireline logging, MWD/LWD operation, mud engineering... etc
I'm based at malaysia now, because i'm in malaysia project team, maybe later will apply to transfer to oversea project team.

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hey guys im doing my final sem now(civil engineering)...and decided to have a career with oil n gas company...
last time im doing practical training at an OnG consultant and it was great to have an experience there. my workscope just to design a model with a software called SACS 5.1.

just want to get your opinion...where should i go..whether consultant or fabricator?

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google will help to answer...
My workscope bascially is do the interpretation on both geology and geophysics, intreprete the earth structure and locate the possibly reservoirs. Today just reach to the Transocean drilling rig located at offshore Terengganu for the wellsitting training, need to go through the drilling operation, mud logging, wireline logging, MWD/LWD operation, mud engineering... etc
I'm based at malaysia now, because i'm in malaysia project team, maybe later will apply to transfer to oversea project team.
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sounds like... mr. beh rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Ddaniell @ Jan 14 2007, 03:13 AM)
hey guys im doing my final sem now(civil engineering)...and decided to have a career with oil n gas company...
last time im doing practical training at an OnG consultant and it was  great to have an experience there. my workscope just to design a model with a software called SACS 5.1.

just want to get your opinion...where should i go..whether consultant or fabricator?
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Care to name the Oil and Gas consultant firm that hire you, I'm looking for some oil and gas firm for internship. Thanks
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the consultant is MMC Oil & Gas.

anyone can give opinion?which one i have to go...fabricator or consultant.
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yo guys,what about financial management in the industry,is it well paid too ?
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From what I know, only UPSTREAM technical guys in this industry get well paid, like who working at wellsite/rigsite/data aquisition (seismic, geological & petrophysical data) If your workscope is something like office based (downstream, like management department) then it is not much different (something) compare to others. A very experienced technical guy can get high paid if working inside office. But I don't deny that management/financial jobs can get well paid too, but at least the person must be manager or above level.
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you can always go to ExxonMobil...they are not outsourcing their IT division...not every company like to outsource... smile.gif

QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 11 2007, 10:55 AM)
Most Oil and Gas companies are outsourcing their IT division in order to focus on their core business which is the exploration and production side. Just giving you some info about the current market.
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you can always go to ExxonMobil...they are not outsourcing their IT division...not every company like to outsource... smile.gif
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wat is exxon mobil malaysia doing actually?
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wildchai, how to solve tight hole problem? My current well have this problem... a trajectory well, the d@mn hole is about 3.9km in measured depth, and then the final straight part to the TD is about 2km with 73° angle, and haven't run the wireline logging yet, don't know will stuck again or not.... this week cannot go back home liao... sad.gif
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wildchai, how to solve tight hole problem? My current well have this problem... a trajectory well, the d@mn hole is about 3.9km in measured depth, and then the final straight part to the TD is about 2km with 73° angle, and haven't run the wireline logging yet, don't know will stuck again or not.... this week cannot go back home liao...  sad.gif
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there should be a JAR in the BHA.....horizontal well, tight hole is common but most of them solved...btw, what's the TVD?
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jan 22 2007, 03:57 PM)
wildchai, how to solve tight hole problem? My current well have this problem... a trajectory well, the d@mn hole is about 3.9km in measured depth, and then the final straight part to the TD is about 2km with 73° angle, and haven't run the wireline logging yet, don't know will stuck again or not.... this week cannot go back home liao...  sad.gif
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there should be a JAR in the BHA.....horizontal well, tight hole is common but most of them solved...btw, what's the TVD?
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not horizontal, it is deviation well, the tight hole is caused by the cutting, solved it by running wiper trip for few days...
TVD more than 1.7km
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i've work in environmental, polymer and currently plating engineer. wat is the chance for me(age 26) to jump into oil n gas industries? its my child dream to work offshore. as far as i know, dis industry usually prefer fresh grad. maybe chance not high since they thought i already forgot nearly everything bout thermo, mass balance, design and bla bla. but the fact is i forgot it all biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Jan 24 2007, 05:56 PM)
i've work in environmental, polymer and currently plating engineer. wat is the chance for me(age 26) to jump into oil n gas industries? its my child dream to work offshore. as far as i know, dis industry usually prefer fresh grad. maybe chance not high since they thought i already forgot nearly everything bout thermo, mass balance, design and bla bla. but the fact is i forgot it all  biggrin.gif
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why don't you just try to apply!
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jan 24 2007, 05:29 PM)
not horizontal, it is deviation well, the tight hole is caused by the cutting, solved it by running wiper trip for few days...
TVD more than 1.7km
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is it working? any idea how much was the overpull???
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why don't you just try to apply!
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still considering it! actually i have applied once and went to interview last month. but then during interview they ask me to design and explain distillation column. wtf how can i remember. nearly fight with them. if want to know my theory gud or not, just look at my slip exam la. all related subject got at least A-. i told them 'if u ask me dis question 3 years ago, pejam mata also i can get full mark'.
till now still scared to apply again. until i have time to do revision
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wah mucklampir..so tough meh ur interview...wuts the company's name huh?
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err what is wireline ? Is it related to mechanical engineering ?

Btw, one of my fren works as a technician with schlumberger (offshore). He's earning RM10k per month. Not even degree level, only diploma. I wonder how much do they offer to degree graduates hmm.gif
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how about a QS (quantity surveyor) in the field ? any input on this?
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wah mucklampir..so tough meh ur interview...wuts the company's name huh?
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glc company. the name biarlah rahsia biggrin.gif

tough huhh? i thought all oil gas company ask the same question? if not then no need for me to wait until finish revision smile.gif


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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 25 2007, 11:53 PM)
err what is wireline ? Is it related to mechanical engineering ?

Btw, one of my fren works as a technician with schlumberger (offshore). He's earning RM10k per month. Not even degree level, only diploma. I wonder how much do they offer to degree graduates hmm.gif
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wireline is something like they run their tool inside the drilled well with steel wire to get the resistivity, type of formation...something like that. i heard that schlumberger no longer wants a degree holder as they have to pay more...not 100% confirmed
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how about a QS (quantity surveyor) in the field ? any input on this?
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High seas drama
Helicopter crashes off Bintulu, nine rescued, one missing


KUCHING: For the second time in three months, a helicopter en route to an offshore oil facility has crashed into the sea, this time off Bintulu.

A 26-year-old technician remains missing while seven others and the Super Puma L2's two pilots were rescued in choppy waters about 40km out in the South China Sea yesterday.

The high seas drama started when the transport helicopter, chartered by Petronas Carigali and operated by Malaysian Helicopter Services Sdn Bhd (MHS), crashed in bad weather on its way to the B18 platform in the Bayan Balingian oilfield.

Seven of the eight passengers and the two pilots were found by two Petronas rescue vessels sent from Miri but there was no trace of Irwan Fasla Aini Salihin as of Press time.

The survivors have been sent to the Bintulu Hospital for observation.

Fasla Aini is a technician with Dettech (M) Sdn Bhd, a Petronas contractor from Miri involved in maintenance work on the unmanned B18 mini-platform.

It is understood the twin-engined aircraft experienced technical problems while on its landing approach and risked crashing into the platform.

Sources told the New Straits Times that the helicopter was minutes away from the platform when the pilot announced an "emergency" and ditched the aircraft.

"Such emergency procedures are standard practice and those who are required to fly to oil platforms must undergo such safety courses.

"Shortly before ditching the aircraft, the pilot had prepared the passengers for a crash landing at sea.

"The missing passenger might have been swept away by strong currents or he might have failed to get out of the helicopter before it sank," the source from Bintulu said.

Department of Civil Aviation regional director Huang Tiong Poh said the helicopter was initially carrying 16 passengers heading to platforms D35 and B18.

"The helicopter departed from Miri airport at 1.08pm heading to the D35 oil platform to drop off eight passengers and was heading towards the B18 mini-platform when it lost contact with the control tower in Kota Kinabalu at 2.40pm.

"The copter never reached B18," Huang said, adding that a search and rescue operation was immediately mounted by MHS, Petronas and Shell teams from Miri and Bintulu.

According to the Meteorological Department, sea conditions at the crash site were stormy with wind speeds of between 40 to 60 kilometres per hour, and waves of up to 4.5 metres.

A brief Petronas statement confirmed the ditching of the aircraft, that one passenger was missing and search and rescue operations were still going on.

MHS and Petronas officials declined further comment.

Federal Marine Police chief Senior Assistant Commissioner II Datuk Jalaludin Abdul Rahman said search and rescue operations were launched three hours later, after police were informed of the incident by Petronas Carigali officials in Kuala Lumpur.

"We immediately alerted our marine base in Sarawak which despatched PA29 speed-boats to the scene. By that time a Petronas Carigali tugboat had already picked up the nine survivors, who were then transferred to our boats."

Jalaludin said owing to failing light, police would continue search and rescue operations today with the assistance of scuba divers and additional boats.

"If need be, we will summon the assistance of other agencies to find the missing person and recover the wreckage of the helicopter for the investigating team," he said.

Department of Civil Aviation director-general Datuk Kok Soo Chon said a probe team was being assembled to investigate the cause of the crash.

Yesterday's crash was the fourth in just over a year involving helicopters belonging to MHS.

On Nov 5 last year, 20 men were plucked from the sea after the Super Puma helicopter they were in, which was chartered by ExxonMobil Exploration and Production Malaysia Inc, went down near an oil rig.

The co-pilot, Ismail Bakar, 43, was among those rescued but pilot Captain Mohd Salleh Teguh from Johor perished in the crash.

The helicopter was believed to have developed technical problems while approaching the company's Tapis B platform, about 103 nautical miles off Dungun in Terengganu. It crashed at 11.45am.

The helicopter had taken off from the Kertih Airport in Kemaman an hour earlier.

On Feb 23, the engine of a Super Puma helicopter caught fire as it was about to take off from Miri airport.

All the 14 oil rig workers and the pilot were unhurt.

On June 18 last year, a similar helicopter crashed in the South China Sea while flying to the B11 oil platform off Bintulu. There were no casualties.

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AN UPDATE ON HELICOPTER INCIDENT OFFSHORE SARAWAK


PETRONAS regrets to inform that the search and rescue team of the Super Puma L2's incident offshore Bintulu, Sarawak, has found the body of the missing aircraft passenger.

The body of Aewan Faslasaini Sallehin, was found at approximately 2.20pm today. His body will be brought back to Bintulu for post mortem by the authorities. His next of kin has been informed by PETRONAS.

Meanwhile, seven of the incident survivors have been discharged from the Bintulu General Hospital. The remaining two, both of whom are PETRONAS Carigali's staff, are still under observation at the hospital. None of them suffers any serious injury.

PETRONAS expects investigation into the cause of the incident to commence soon and will be working closely with all the parties concerned to assist in the investigation.

31/01/07
This is one of the risk for people who working at offshore

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another super puma...if there is no HUET..there isn't such high percentage of survival for a chopper ditch...

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HUET does help a lot, but the HUET that I attended at CONSIST still didn't have the full facilities. For example like the chopper simulator, they (CONSIST) don't have the Super Puma's window on their simulator, but seat belt only. I just learned how to open the window by watched the safety briefing video before the chopper departed! and the Super Puma's seat belt (4 point seat belt like in fighter jet) sometimes difficult to open too if compare to others (example like the seat belt in a 737)

I just came back from offshore on last week, go and back by Super Puma sweat.gif

This incident happen at an oil field called D35, which is my current project team, and 4 of my colleagues should go there on yesterday by the SAME chopper, but luckily they didn't go because of the safety passport problem, this morning they talked a lot regarding this issue and they are feeling afraid now sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif


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yeah...super puma is dropping nowadays....i get my HUET from SEQU..haha i heard CONSISTS is pretty tough than SEQU...
HUET trains you with 2 point....there is alot of diference to take off 2 point and 4 point terbalik under water..haha.

forrest i am sure u try the chopper ditching cage session.lol

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TECHNIP is good?
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be cool....probability to crash with a bike or car is extremely higher than chopper
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QUOTE(vincentlws @ Jan 31 2007, 10:35 PM)
yeah...super puma is dropping nowadays....i get my HUET from SEQU..haha i heard CONSISTS is pretty tough than SEQU...
HUET trains you with 2 point....there is alot of diference to take off 2 point and 4 point terbalik under water..haha.

forrest i am sure u try the chopper ditching cage session.lol
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some of my female colleague attended their BOSET there, at least you don't have to jump into water from 10m height flex.gif
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yeah i heard that too..CONSISTS is more to mimic he real thing.
yup..we did that at mas academy.
u guys got 3 ditching exercise rite?
1 is normal ditch without topple,second is ditch topple then third is fast ditch and topple..

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QUOTE(vincentlws @ Feb 3 2007, 01:18 AM)
yeah i heard that too..CONSISTS is more to mimic he real thing.
yup..we did that at mas academy.
u guys got 3 ditching exercise rite?
1 is normal ditch without topple,second is ditch topple then third is fast ditch and topple..
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HUET at CONSIST:
1) straight ditch and escapes from the helicopter module
2) capsize and escape without doors and windows
3) capsize and escape with doors and windows fitted


I heard that the BOSET at SMTC, Miri is more difficult, they have the wave generator to make 1m artificial sea wave.
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will be going to Ensco-104 tomorrow....bye everybody....
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I assume that all the chopper flight has been cancelled already, one of my colleague just came back from rig-nagawan two days ago by vessel, sea swell 4m, 12 hours journey shocking.gif

Remember to take sea sickness pill before boarding, if you go by vessel/supply boat smile.gif
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I've one question, I'm currently a Mechanical Engineering undergraduate, can I know which subject I should focus on if I were going to work in Oil & Gas sector. I wanted to know which subject will have more relevant to the field. Thanks alot.
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QUOTE(forrest @ Feb 6 2007, 09:24 AM)
I assume that all the chopper flight has been cancelled already, one of my colleague just came back from rig-nagawan two days ago by vessel, sea swell 4m, 12 hours journey  shocking.gif

Remember to take sea sickness pill before boarding, if you go by vessel/supply boat  smile.gif
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thanx for the tips...actually my MAS flight is this evening, the chopper maybe scheduled tomorrow or the day after tomorrow....owh..naga-1??It's in Miri/Bintulu I suppose I rigged up my unit there.
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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Feb 6 2007, 10:21 AM)
thanx for the tips...actually my MAS flight is this evening, the chopper maybe scheduled tomorrow or the day after tomorrow....owh..naga-1??It's in Miri/Bintulu I suppose I rigged up my unit there.
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typo... its naga-1 not hagawan sweat.gif it is a small field.
anyway, I think they only cancel the flight during bad weather.
When I travel to offshore few weeks ago, the condition is: wind=30-33 knots (55-60km/h), sea swell: 4-5m sweat.gif
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hurmm..before this ..i'm working as UNIX technical support for Oil&Gas company

there's alots of software i need to know , so i can handle users problem , such as reservoir engineer , geologist, geoscientist, bla bla bla , to use it ...

like Petrel , Landmark, OpenWorks , 123DI , Seisworks, MatLab, XVision,Fismet, PROMISE,LOGIC, DYNAMO, and so forth.

so .. if i have opportunity to go further deep into Oil&Gas job scope, i will learn more on stuff like software above and grab more on UNIX and Linux ., not drilling the well or rig

p/s my experience in oil&gas company previously

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I'm currently working in a petrochemical plant in Singapore at the moment owned by Shell as process technician or plant operator.

Regarding qualification, I got the job with my SPM with science subject, just as long as credit enough already. Found the job in The Star newspaper recruitment.

Higher qualification mean better position and pay of course. Managerial and executive positions, you really need all those Hons., masters and a very good CGPA like 3.3 and above for MNC companies. I know a lot of people with Engineering degree working as technicians under experienced Engineers. Because their paper qualification or grade is not superior enough. So they become "kuli" until they gain enough experience and recognition before they can come up.

As far as I know, engineering students have a lot of prospects in Oil and gas, Mechanical engineering and Electrical engineering is the most common qualification for an engineer job in Oil and gas. IT people also got a lot of prospects in MNC, might not earn as much but have good MNC benefits. But as far as I know, Operational staff upstream and midstream get the most pay, downstream less unless in sales department. Civil engineering also good prospects working for the enginnering companies contracted to oil and gas plus most companies always got some minor civil works going around their plant.

Chemical, and science students with very good grades, get the scientist jobs and executive level positions. So better study hard, a general degree won't get you far. Involved mostly in studies how to reduce costs and improve yield. Most of the managers and high flyers come from this background.

It's true about the 6 - 8 months bonus, a Shell cracker plant doing crude oil processing gets 8 months bonuses annually and the union in Singapore is damn strong. As long as your plant/rig don't burn down, it is always making money.

Pay range for engineers can be from SGD4k for fresh grad to whatever depending on your experience and qualifications. Operation staff like me start at about SGD2.2k, and with overtime, can reach SGD4k easily.

Work is mostly hands on for operation staff, engineers do a lot of planning and also field studies and work. Most of the labour is contracted out so you are mostly spared the dirty work and most dangerous situations if you are with the main company and not the engineering company.

Shift work is mandatory, and safety training for everyone is 1st priority. It's actually safer to work in a oil plant than in the offshore rig of course. But since I have no experience in offshore, I can't comment. I plan to come back to Malaysia one day and maybe go offshore though.

The risks is the real reason why we get paid so much. I know of 3 collegues from the Philipines who died of cancer already due long exposure to chemicals and gases. Their regulations there is more lax and the staff are expose more to dangerous stuff. So think about this well. I have seen high pressure fires, massive gas leakages, mild poisoning, bursting vesels, chemical burns, cold burns, deafness, blindness, crushed fingers, broken limbs, psychological trauma and skin discoloration due to chemical exposure. These risks are real and happens frequently, some companies hide it well, others play it down, but most are accepted as part of the industry.

There are a lot of companies involved in oil and gas industry, not only the oil companies. Engineering and construction companies, scaffolding companies, specialist companies, software enginnering, IT support, food and beverages and all that is needed to support the large workforce. As long as you are in the oil companies, you will get good pay. Support company employees don't earn as much and are expose to most risks.

During turnaround or major maintenance periods, risks of accidents and fire increases significantly as the workload and stress wear down the alertness of hundreds of people working in the same area. Companies always push for the best safety training and awareness, but people always make mistakes and some costs them thier lives. So if you still want to work in oil and gas, better prepare yourself for all these. It's not always rosy and the high pay has it's reason behind it.

Pros:
Very good pay
Get to travel
Constant training
Great overtime rates
Great bonus
Good working hours (long off days in shift)
Good work out

Cons:
Dangerous and always at risks
Away from family if offshore or travel other countries
Can be fired for major cock-ups
Always answer to someone, you can't be the boss
High pressure working environment
Hard work and dirty if ground crew
Cumulative effects 20 years down the road.(cancer, blindness, deafness)
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Geoservices is a BULLSHIT company...I really regret working with this shit-eating dumbass company with a whole bunch of foolish/stupid managers...this occurs in this region only...dunno about other regions...anybody who wishes to join O n G, please seek for other companies....I'm not bullshitting...this is for real.

p/s: the pay is the worst of all kind.
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huh? I though you are happy with your current salary?
Your current salary is condisered higher than engineer (not related to O&G), but cannot compare to Schlumberger/Halliburton guys lo... those mwd/lwd/directional driller/wireline...
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I'm not happy at all from day 1....i never say that I'm happy.....my job is so tough i can consider i'm underpaid. compared to the casing/wellhead/cementing crews, they do much less job and get better pay...i mean better is a whole lot better....do you know what mudloggers do?
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I know what exactly mudlogger do, I'm stuck around inside ILO unit and Anadrill unit in most of my time during my offshore trip on few weeks ago. You need to work on shift, most probably 12hrs work with a sample catcher, if your sample catcher is lazy, then sometime you need to collect the formation sample by yourself or you will lost the data. The sounds is keep beeping and company man always check you(your data)...
If you job hop to ILO, your pay is not much different. (depends on experience)
The workscope of casing/wellhead/cementing crews is different compare to you, they need to carry and transfer the heavy stuff, somemore work at dangerous rig floor.
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no matter what, i really do not recommend anybody to join MUDLOGGING, just let this sector dies as well as the bullshit management no matter what mudlogging company it is


Added on February 8, 2007, 3:34 pmp/s: i never accuse my sample catchers as lazy as they have been doing all the dirty/tiring work.....throughout my career as a mudlogger, i've never seen any lazy sample catcher.....if they are tired, i'm willing to help them.


Added on February 18, 2007, 1:35 pmnobody seems to have interest in this sector lately

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Thank you all for your informative input on the oil and gas industry.

I'm an electronics engineering undergraduate majoring in telecommunication and I am wondering what my options are in the oil and gas industry.

I have heard that you can have a complete career change but I need to know whether this is true.

Also, what are the chances of oil and gas companies actually accepting these kind of career change for a fresh graduate?

Thank you.
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i got an offer from O&G company based in KL...name Aker Kvaerner..
position = structural engineer and definitely work in office only
salary = 2.0 k - 2.2 k (freshie)

just want to know,how much pay can i get if i just work in office doing design over the years...and how far my career can grow?

can i get rm 5.0 k at my age 28? and izzit boring work in office?

currently i am working in construction company related to civil with salary 1.8k...so, should i accept or reject the offer??

can give me the benefit if i work in this company as structural engineer. the future benefit?

plz help me...ASAP!

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Now applying for a job from "Caledonian Offshore". They just sent me a form and asking me to reply with a resume..
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Hi all, I am just wondering if I am too old to be freshie in Oil and Gas industry? I am around 30 year-old, chemical engineering degree, some experiences in manufacturing industry but not Oil and Gas. How much should I quote for the salary in this case?
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Hi. Can i know whether a degree in actuarial science can work in offshore too?
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QUOTE(shado @ Jul 3 2007, 11:10 PM)
I was paid RM2.3k as test engineer when 21 years old..work in office..huh...  shakehead.gif
Really bored...Everyday sit in front computer compile data, do analysis and worst, is to join meeting... yawn.gif
Now applying for a job from "Caledonian Offshore". They just sent me a form and asking me to reply with a resume..
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Oil & gas company do take people from different discipline and retrain them to become a specialist in one field, "big" company always do these, but normally they prefer fresh grad.
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Fresh grad, if im not mistaken the minimum requirement now is master, wether engineering or geoscience. At least thats what my current company is doing.
For you guys that still doing spm or matriculation, think carefully when you want to choose your majoring. There is a big shortage in Oil and Gas, especially in geoscience (geologist, geophysicist). Many people opt for engineering because they think its the most highly paid job around. Believe me man, that is not always the case. My friends earn like 12-13k a month, and they are geology graduate, mid 20s. I myself is a geologist, not as high as them though but enuff to feed me and my family.
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Oil & gas company do take people from different discipline and retrain them to become a specialist in one field, "big" company always do these, but normally they prefer fresh grad.
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QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Jul 5 2007, 01:08 PM)
Fresh grad, if im not mistaken the minimum requirement now is master, wether engineering or geoscience. At least thats what my current company is doing.
For you guys that still doing spm or matriculation, think carefully when you want to choose your majoring. There is a big shortage in Oil and Gas, especially in geoscience (geologist, geophysicist). Many people opt for engineering because they think its the most highly paid job around. Believe me man, that is not always the case. My friends earn like 12-13k a month, and they are geology graduate, mid 20s. I myself is a geologist, not as high as them though but enuff to feed me and my family.
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Thank you for your replies.

If masters is indeed the minimum requirement, I don't think I have a chance at all.


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That apply to Oil and Gas Co only. For other service company (schlum, halli, weather, baker, ILO etc), I dont think so.
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if your friend can earn 12-13K in mid 20s... i think they are working offshore, right?

Currently the average age (workers) in oil & gas related company is about 52 yrs old, in 5-10yrs, there will be a lot (about 50% of them) of skilled manpowers (upstream) will be retired, grab this chance wink.gif

Master is a minimum requirement? Maybe oversea... but not in Malaysia.

Btw, im working as a geoscientist (geology+geophysics)

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Thank you all for your informative input on the oil and gas industry.

I'm an electronics engineering undergraduate majoring in telecommunication and I am wondering what my options are in the oil and gas industry.

I have heard that you can have a complete career change but I need to know whether this is true.

Also, what are the chances of oil and gas companies actually accepting these kind of career change for a fresh graduate?

Thank you.
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dont worry bout dat.telco oso play a big role in oil n gas for their data comm,dcs, etc.u can try any company dat provide these services for oil n gas comp such as slb,dancom,rites,scopetel n of course telekom for their microwave n vsat link.gud luck then smile.gif
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 5 2007, 05:36 PM)
if your friend can earn 12-13K in mid 20s... i think they are working offshore, right?

Currently the average age (workers) in oil & gas related company is about 52 yrs old, in 5-10yrs, there will be a lot (about 50% of them) of skilled manpowers (upstream) will be retired, grab this chance  wink.gif

Master is a minimum requirement? Maybe oversea... but not in Malaysia.

Btw, im working as a geoscientist (geology+geophysics)
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No man, my friends one of them with services company, and the other one is oil company. Both of them doing office work. The reason their salary is high is because they jump company.
Yes, most company (esp oil company) required master for fresh grad. I myself is not a master graduate, luckily it was not required during that time. I think petronas they dont require master for freshies.
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Master is a minimum requirement? Maybe oversea... but not in Malaysia.
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Not necessarily. This is up to the job market at the time. I'm going to be going into college in the States with a Petroleum Engineering major. Placement office at the school I'm going to was able to place 100% of graduates last year with an average starting salary of $70K USD.
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Thank you for your replies.

If masters is indeed the minimum requirement, I don't think I have a chance at all.
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Hi all...finally stumbled upon this topic.

Nope, there are always hope although you are not a master degree holder.

Positions like Operation Technicians requires only Diploma level. (provided if you are interested)
Based mostly offshore, the gross pay can be up to 5K per month including aloowances & overtime.
I have been working in this industry for 2 years now as a Control Room Operator / Process Tech. Basically a somewhat hectic job & long hours of monitoring the plant/platform. Chances to get big overtime is high, but patience is also needed because of continuous pressure. Not only the boss have the work pressure but the kuli also!

About safety, offshore location is certified the most safest place on earth. excluding the helicopter ride to your rig/platform...hehehe.

BTW every year our company SSB/SSPC recruits new OTs to replace the ageing offshore population. be quick & check out the major newspaper for the 7th intake!
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so speedfamgirl, do ur company take student to do their internship?

Interested here...... rclxms.gif

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Sembawang Corp(jurong shipyard LTE PTE) looking freshie young talents from malaysia on thier offshore jobs.Those who interested work in oil and gas field can try it out...prefer Mechanical and EE fresh graduates(offshore engineers) and diploma holder(assistant engineers).. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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be quick & check out the major newspaper for the 7th intake!
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wat major newpaper do u mean? Borneo post?
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I'd say in a couple of years, seismic exploration will be raking in the money. Since proven reserves are running out.. O&G companies are spending big bucks to try and find new commercially viable prospects. Many seismic explorations companies are expanding their operations and hiring a lot of people. Heck my company is adding 2 new seismic vessels to the current fleet just to keep up with demands.

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so speedfamgirl, do ur company take student to do their internship?

Interested here...... rclxms.gif
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internship?...well, i am not so sure about that...
but petronas have i think in their Instep program.


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wat major newpaper do u mean? Borneo post?
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yeah, i find my job (tho it's not my dream job....but at least the pay will be able to buy my dream things & become a dream dj...hehehe)

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I'd say in a couple of years, seismic exploration will be raking in the money. Since proven reserves are running out.. O&G companies are spending big bucks to try and find new commercially viable prospects. Many seismic explorations companies are expanding their operations and hiring a lot of people. Heck my company is adding 2 new seismic vessels to the current fleet just to keep up with demands.
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Seismic is quite specialized isn't it? I know for a fact that you are a mechanical engineer when you first joined the O&G industry but how did you ask for your current position as a seismic engineer? Did you ask for it or did your company offer you the position?

Also, I would like to know how to pursue for a career in seismic exploration. Any courses that I can attend?

p/s : I'm an electronic engineering undergraduate majoring in telecommunications.


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ICDeadPeople, i don't know you are working in which company but as far as I know, my friends/juniors who joined shell, murphy oil, pcsb, talisman, slb with degree only... but for sure master degree is an advantage biggrin.gif

yetieater, you're right, this is up to the market, I've met a Slb's MWD engineer at offshore who have a diploma in computer science

hiiragizawa, Seismic is quite specialized job/work, but it's depends on what are you going to do,seismic works can be divided to seismic acquisition, seismic processing and seismic interpretation.
I think a seismic engineer's (or field engineer) workscopes is something like setting up the machines, acquisition/parameters setting,
troubleshooting/maintenace.... you can ask enkadir for further information... laugh.gif
this job (seismic engineer/techician) can be done by takes engineer from any discipline, and give them training, if they hire the persom.
Seismic processing is carry out by geophysicist, and seismic interpretation is done by geophysicists and geoscientist. I think the only courses which is related to seismic works is geophysics and geology only.



p/s: correct me if I'm wrong tongue.gif

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damn, now i am stranded at a jacket cannot return to the mother platform due to rough seas...waa miss sleeping in my 5 star cabin room
luckily there was internet!

another challenge of working offshore.
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High pay, high on holiday amount. High RISK OF GETTING CANCER as well. so think carefully what u want i ur life then make a wise move.
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jul 8 2007, 10:51 PM)
damn, now i am stranded at a jacket cannot return to the mother platform due to rough seas...waa miss sleeping in my 5 star cabin room
luckily there was internet!

another challenge of working offshore.
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huh? I thought the current sea condition is quite ok?
Two weeks ago, my colleagues went to D35 platform (by supply vessel), they didn't complaint anything. laugh.gif
Mind to tell me which field and platform you are working?

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huh? I thought the current sea condition is quite ok?
Two weeks ago, my colleagues went to D35 platform (by supply vessel), they didn't complaint anything.  laugh.gif
Mind to tell me which field and platform you are working?
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E11 Hub Complex

Now stranded at F13W....

Last time when I was at M1, we still can brave the sea & manage to return from Jintan. Maybe they are not used to deep sea cond


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I was actually offered a position as Seismic acquisition engineer by my company. I guess I was kinda 'lucky' that I ended up in seismic. But Forrest is right.. seismic is not just for geologist/geophysicst.. they mainly do the processing and interpretation of seismic data. Engineers are the ones who actually go out and collect the raw information. So yeah, my job is to set up the equipment, deploy them, monitor the equipment during the acquisition process, maintain and do repairs on the equipment and also troubleshooting the recording instrument. I also do initial QC on the recorded data. Usually they hire engineers with a mechanical or electrical background because the equipment is essentially a long microphone that picks up the reflected sound waves from the surface of the seabed.
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E11 Hub Complex

Now stranded at F13W....

Last time when I was at M1, we still can brave the sea & manage to return from Jintan. Maybe they are not used to deep sea cond
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wow... that is a huge gas field. F13W is the satelite platform, right?

When I flew to Angsi-C platform early this year, the weather was really bad sweat.gif 2-3 weeks before the same model of chopper crashed offshore bintulu sweat.gif


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wow... that is a huge gas field. F13W is the satelite platform, right?

When I flew to Angsi-C platform early this year, the weather was really bad  sweat.gif  2-3 weeks before the same model of chopper crashed offshore bintulu  sweat.gif
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yeah....that's right.

My 1st visit to F13W today & then got stranded!
Congratulations to myself, a pioneer lady that sleeps on the jacket. Never got stranded at Jintan before this....waah so tired now but i cant sleep. I'll wait until early morning so that could sleep well at the quarters...but damn, all the CROs are returning to shore 2moro, then it's me alone in the control room. i hope that the night shift will help so that i could sleep 1st...hehe.

Chopper crash is very scary, but what to do....it's the main modes of transportation, beside using boats
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jul 8 2007, 11:59 PM)
yeah....that's right.

My 1st visit to F13W today & then got stranded!
Congratulations to myself, a pioneer lady that sleeps on the jacket. Never got stranded at Jintan before this....waah so tired now but i cant sleep. I'll wait until early morning so that could sleep well at the quarters...but damn, all the CROs are returning to shore 2moro, then it's me alone in the control room. i hope that the night shift will help so that i could sleep 1st...hehe.

Chopper crash is very scary, but what to do....it's the main modes of transportation, beside using boats
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You will always face uncertainties for working offshore... that is quite a normal phenomena~

How do you sleep on the jacket? Do you need to tight up yourself for not getting fall into the sea? (sorry for the stupid question sweat.gif )

Go get some help from others personnel in your rig then, should have ppl willing to help you.

p/s: you are from Central Luconia... good... laugh.gif ... i think less than 10 ppl in LYN knows where is the Luconia located~~

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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 9 2007, 12:23 AM)
You will always face uncertainties for working offshore... that is quite a normal phenomena~

How do you sleep on the jacket? Do you need to tight up yourself for not getting fall into the sea? (sorry for the stupid question  sweat.gif  )

Go get some help from others personnel in your rig then, should have ppl willing to help you.

p/s: you are from Central Luconia... good...  laugh.gif ... i think less than 10 ppl in LYN knows where is the Luconia located~~
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Uncertainties always made me think "how long should I live a life like this?"
Anyway, I would like to enjoy it as much as i can while i am still able. Planning to work offshore for another 10 years before settling down.

There are the weather shelter, control room & switch gear room for you to sleep. you can use any.
Right now most of them fall flat on the hard floor while I make a reply to you...hehe.
Adoi, my back aches so much now...dont know when i will be able to sleep. Hopefully the OIM will not bising later in the morning. The good thing is the work supervisor is now with us, so no worries!

P/S: I like the Luconia name since day 1 joining the company. Using it as my dj name when doing mixes...as well as promoting them for scuba diving heaven...bwahaha! tongue.gif
anyway i am at Central Luconia now. LOL! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jul 9 2007, 12:59 AM)
Uncertainties always made me think "how long should I live a life like this?"
Anyway, I would like to enjoy it as much as i can while i am still able. Planning to work offshore for another 10 years before settling down.

There are the weather shelter, control room & switch gear room for you to sleep. you can use any.
Right now most of them fall flat on the hard floor while I make a reply to you...hehe.
Adoi, my back aches so much now...dont know when i will be able to sleep. Hopefully the OIM will not bising later in the morning. The good thing is the work supervisor is now with us, so no worries!

P/S: I like the Luconia name since day 1 joining the company. Using it as my dj name when doing mixes...as well as promoting them for scuba diving heaven...bwahaha! tongue.gif
anyway i am at Central Luconia now. LOL! biggrin.gif
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"how long should I live a life like this?" .... you already have your own answer -----------> 10 years laugh.gif laugh.gif

Satelite platform don't have room for sleep? sweat.gif Then i can imagine your current place sweat.gif

Just leave the OIM alone... he should know the weather and the situation, if he make a lot of noise, you just report to company man laugh.gif

p/s: still have a lot of "funny/special" terminology if you study G&G... btw, another project team in my current office is working on the SW Luconia project, different geological setting compare to others, nice to meet you here~~

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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 9 2007, 01:23 AM)
"how long should I live a life like this?" .... you already have your own answer -----------> 10 years  laugh.gif    laugh.gif

Satelite platform don't have room for sleep?  sweat.gif  Then i can imagine your current place  sweat.gif

Just leave the OIM alone... he should know the weather and the situation, if he make a lot of noise, you just report to company man  laugh.gif

p/s: still have a lot of "funny/special" terminology if you study G&G... btw, another project team in my current is working on the SW Luconia project, different geological setting compare to others, nice to meet you here~~
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hehe, about the 10 years is approximate. subjected to alteration. brows.gif

Nope, satellite platform dont have any room. I dont know why they dont put their sleeping bags here like the other jackets as well. Now we have to use our life jackets & raincoats as pillows & blanket. Luckily the temperature is not so cold.

P/S: cool to meet you as well, very fortunate to talk to one of the big guys that is behind of the big projects. I really feel honoured when you reply to my posts. I am just a mere orerator...wuhuhhuhhu cry.gif
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Sorry noob here. What is G&G and CRO?

Btw, question to enkadir:
How did you come across your current company? Were you head hunted by your company or did you apply for it?

Question to everybody:
What are the technical jobs available for Degree holders (fresh grad) in the oil and gas industry? I checked out oilcareers.com but there's alot of jobs mentioned here that are not in the list. So I'd really really appreciate it if you guys could enlighten me on this.

Quite lost when it comes to what kind of jobs I can look forward to in the O&G side with an Electronics Eng degree.
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Sorry noob here. What is G&G and CRO?
G&G i am not sure,
but CRO is Control Room Operator. His/her job is to control/monitor the plant process equipment while maintaining production & at the same time ensure that the plant is working safe.

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hehe, about the 10 years is approximate. subjected to alteration.  brows.gif

Nope, satellite platform dont have any room. I dont know why they dont put their sleeping bags here like the other jackets as well. Now we have to use our life jackets & raincoats as pillows & blanket. Luckily the temperature is not so cold.

P/S: cool to meet you as well, very fortunate to talk to one of the big guys that is behind of the big projects. I really feel honoured when you reply to my posts. I am just a mere orerator...wuhuhhuhhu cry.gif
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the Angsi-C platform that I mentioned also don't have room, it is a satellite platform too... i was stayed at a drilling jackup called "shelf explorer" which is attached to the Angsi-C. One day I will ask the project engineer (surface engineering) regarding this question tongue.gif

Next time you should bring extra sleeping beg when you travel to such places, or actually you can make a demand during the morning meeting, tell company man, this is an essential, we are not working machine! wink.gif

p/s: I'm just a small guy who are still in the learning staircase...
everyone have their own important role to run a project, don't think that you are small, without you, no production!


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QUOTE(pavithran @ Jul 9 2007, 01:40 AM)
Sorry noob here. What is G&G and CRO?

Btw, question to enkadir:
How did you come across your current company? Were you head hunted by your company or did you apply for it?

Question to everybody:
What are the technical jobs available for Degree holders (fresh grad) in the oil and gas industry? I checked out oilcareers.com but there's alot of jobs mentioned here that are not in the list. So I'd really really appreciate it if you guys could enlighten me on this.

Quite lost when it comes to what kind of jobs I can look forward to in the O&G side with an Electronics Eng degree.
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G&G stand for geology & geophysics, or geoscience

Your question is too general... you need to ask more specific
First, you need to know where you wanna in, O&G got upstream and downstream. Upstream can be divided into surface engineering, subsurface engineering and geoscience (G&G). If you are have a EE degree, you should be able to enter surface engineering.

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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 9 2007, 01:51 AM)
the Angsi-C platform that I mentioned also don't have room, it is a satellite platform too... i was stayed at a drilling jackup called "shelf explorer" which is attached to the Angsi-C. One day I will ask the project engineer (surface engineering) regarding this question  tongue.gif

Next time you should bring extra sleeping beg when you travel to such places, or actually you can make a demand during the morning meeting, tell company man, this is an essential, we are not working machine!  wink.gif

p/s: I'm just a small guy who are still in the learning staircase...
      everyone have their own important role to run a project, don't think that you are small, without you, no production!
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yep, no production means no money! bwahahahaa doh.gif

I was packing my bag earlier this morning, thinking of bringing it to the jacket...but then i feel so confident that the trip was not long. so i left them...

I should raise a request of "katil lipat" like what the soldiers use to put in here as well, like the ones that is used in Jintan platform. I dont know what will the OIM say to my petition. I was so used with working culture from M1. It's a smaller gas complex & of course everything is easy & relaxing compared to E11 Hub.

p/s: isn't Angsi-C is operated by Talisman?
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To forrest:
Yeah, I'm interested in O&G jobs for Electronics eng degree. Sorry I forgot to mention the upstream part.

Could you explain what is surface engineering, subsurface engineering and geoscience all about?

My initial guess is:
Surface = all the stuff on the platform, including the instrumentations and etc.
Subsurface = regarding the petroleum/gas underground
Geoscience = ???

Also, what category does seismic data acquisition fall into?
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jul 9 2007, 02:02 AM)
yep, no production means no money! bwahahahaa doh.gif

I was packing my bag earlier this morning, thinking of bringing it to the jacket...but then i feel so confident that the trip was not long. so i left them...

I should raise a request of "katil lipat" like what the soldiers use to put in here as well, like the ones that is used in Jintan platform. I dont know what will the OIM say to my petition. I was so used with working culture from M1. It's a smaller gas complex & of course everything is easy & relaxing compared to E11 Hub.

p/s: isn't Angsi-C is operated by Talisman?
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so, you are very important biggrin.gif

Just request it during the meeting, we don't have to bring everything! icon_idea.gif

p/s: angsi can be divided into angsi and south angsi.


some of the information is confidential, i think i can't elaborate more sweat.gif


i will try to answer the remain questions later.... need to sleep now...

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Btw, question to enkadir:
How did you come across your current company? Were you head hunted by your company or did you apply for it?

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I came across my current company while I was interviewing for Schlumberger. Since Western Geco is a subsidiary of Schlumberger, one of the operations manager approached me and asked if I'd be interested to get involved in seismic. The rest as they say..is history.
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jul 9 2007, 02:19 AM)
so, you are very important   biggrin.gif

Just request it during the meeting, we don't have to bring everything!  icon_idea.gif

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i will try to answer the remain questions.... need to sleep now...
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I see...hehe, sorry if i am asking too deep.
I remember a friend of mine email me the pic of angsi platform, but not sure which jacket. he is working with Talisman.

ok, have a nice sleep while i am stranded here with no sleep tongue.gif
nice to talk to you nod.gif

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@ speedfamgirl

I hope you don't mind a few questions regarding your career in the O&G industry. How's the environment like offshore? As in the workloads and working schedules?

Also, how are the living quarters like? Do you have internet and stuff there?

Finally, I heard that offshore workers usually work on a one week on - one week off basis. So do your go back onshore/home during every break?
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jul 7 2007, 03:50 PM)
Hi all...finally stumbled upon this topic.

Nope, there are always hope although you are not a master degree holder.

Positions like Operation Technicians requires only Diploma level. (provided if you are interested)
Based mostly offshore, the gross pay can be up to 5K per month including aloowances & overtime.
I have been working in this industry for 2 years now as a Control Room Operator / Process Tech. Basically a somewhat hectic job & long hours of monitoring the plant/platform. Chances to get big overtime is high, but patience is also needed because of continuous pressure. Not only the boss have the work pressure but the kuli also!

About safety, offshore location is certified the most safest place on earth. excluding the helicopter ride to your rig/platform...hehehe.

BTW every year our company SSB/SSPC recruits new OTs to replace the ageing offshore population. be quick & check out the major newspaper for the 7th intake!
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@ speedfamgirl

I hope you don't mind a few questions regarding your career in the O&G industry. How's the environment like offshore? As in the workloads and working schedules?

Also, how are the living quarters like? Do you have internet and stuff there?

Finally, I heard that offshore workers usually work on a one week on - one week off basis. So do your go back onshore/home during every break?
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it has been storied earlier in the begining of this topic. almost all are the same.
I just told my story being stranded on a jacket platform today...

we work on shifts for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks off.
living quarters is depending much on your field. so far so good...they provide you everything free & taken care by the catering services (laundry & room services)
we do have internets here. some of the living quarters are well equipped with jamming equipment & some are not. btw, it is important to bring your own entertainment resources such as laptops, you dont want to get yourself bored, don't you?


@ Aurora

google is your best friend. SSB/SSPC is good enough to tell you at the moment...
sorry for that
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Ah.. yes. I was searching for SSB only. Pardon me. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jul 9 2007, 02:59 AM)
it has been storied earlier in the begining of this topic. almost all are the same.
I just told my story being stranded on a jacket platform today...

we work on shifts for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks off.
living quarters is depending much on your field. so far so good...they provide you everything free & taken care by the catering services (laundry & room services)
we do have internets here. some of the living quarters are well equipped with jamming equipment & some are not. btw, it is important to bring your own entertainment resources such as laptops, you dont want to get yourself bored, don't you?
@ Aurora

google is your best friend. SSB/SSPC is good enough to tell you at the moment...
sorry for that
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Entertainment is really important! I even lugged my whole desktop there for good....including my monitor! I'm not offshore but "stranded" in a base camp for more than a month. laugh.gif
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Dear guys and gals.

This morning I attended a Shell Career talk in Multimedia University.

I asked about offshore prospects of an engineering student majoring in electronics but the representative said that the chances are very very slim.

I was told that it was dificult to be offshore as well.

I am wondering know, as a future electronics engineering graduate majoring in Telecommunication, how am I going to get myself offshore.

Thank you.
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my uncle is in this off/on shore project..last time as i remember he with the Talisman Eng sumthing(offshore people knowlah)..seriously..big $$$ man..gosh~by rolex like buying swatch..today by estima nextday by merc c230 already.. T_T...how ever..sad thing is..family..aiyoo so many trouble..since so far away from wife.. *SIGH*
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jul 25 2007, 01:16 PM)
Dear guys and gals.

This morning I attended a Shell Career talk in Multimedia University.

I asked about offshore prospects of an engineering student majoring in electronics but the representative said that the chances are very very slim.

I was told that it was dificult to be offshore as well.

I am wondering know, as a future electronics engineering graduate majoring in Telecommunication, how am I going to get myself offshore.

Thank you.

Yeah, same here.

According to the speaker at the Shell career talk, Electronics Engineering students always get places in their IT side and the chances for them to get a permanent career offshore is like, once in a blue moon.

She (the speaker at the career talk) told me to mention my interest in an offshore job during the Shell Recruitment Day, but she added that the chances were again, slim.

So I was wondering if any of you guys and girls here know anybody who graduated as an Electronics Engineer and is working offshore now. It doesn't matter if they are not working for Shell, as long as they are on a permanent offshore career.

Appreciate your input. Thanks.
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my uncle who works offshores, recommend me to apply for ultrasonic technician - NDT technician. What is that har? just do scanning and x-ray is it? what's the prospect? He said staring pay is low but fully trained an inpection engineer can be getting 10 - 30K per month. is that true ah?
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my uncle who works offshores, recommend me to apply for ultrasonic technician - NDT technician. What is that har? just do scanning and x-ray is it? what's the prospect? He said staring pay is low but fully trained an inpection engineer can be getting 10 - 30K per month. is that true ah?
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NDT = non desructive test, isn't it.
i think NDT technician should have NDT certificate which is level 1 - 3, higher level higher pay.
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QUOTE(pavithran @ Jul 26 2007, 12:16 AM)
Yeah, same here.

According to the speaker at the Shell career talk, Electronics Engineering students always get places in their IT side and the chances for them to get a permanent career offshore is like, once in a blue moon.

She (the speaker at the career talk) told me to mention my interest in an offshore job during the Shell Recruitment Day, but she added that the chances were again, slim.

So I was wondering if any of you guys and girls here know anybody who graduated as an Electronics Engineer and is working offshore now. It doesn't matter if they are not working for Shell, as long as they are on a permanent offshore career.

Appreciate your input. Thanks.
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Get into Seismic, a couple of acquistion engineers in my crew have electrica/electronic degree. Basically what we do is record reflected waves bouncing of the earth's layers that orignates from a high energy source and record the data using highly sensitve hydrophones. The hydrophones are located in streamers that are towed behind the seismic vessel and can be as long as 12km. Obviously this is just the tip of the iceberg of what seismic engineers do but it does help tremendously if you have an electrical background. You'll have to be familiar with terms like sampling rates, nyquist frequencies, anti-aliasing filters, scsi, IEEE 32... just to give an example. However you will be working mostly on a Seismic vessel and not on an oil rig.. but I guess that still counts as being offshore. The pay is good and you typically only spend 5 weeks offshore. It does allow for extensive international travel as the vessel will always be moving around to it's next survey job.
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QUOTE(enkadirmainbola @ Jul 28 2007, 08:45 AM)
Get into Seismic, a couple of acquistion engineers in my crew have electrica/electronic degree. Basically what we do is record reflected waves bouncing of the earth's layers that orignates from a high energy source and record the data using highly sensitve hydrophones. The hydrophones are located in streamers that are towed behind the seismic vessel and can be as long as 12km. Obviously this is just the tip of the iceberg of what seismic engineers do but it does help tremendously if you have an electrical background. You'll have to be familiar with terms like sampling rates, nyquist frequencies, anti-aliasing filters, scsi, IEEE 32... just to give an example. However you will be working mostly on a Seismic vessel and not on an oil rig.. but I guess that still counts as being offshore. The pay is good and you typically only spend 5 weeks offshore. It does allow for extensive international travel as the vessel will always be moving around to it's next survey job.
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i think i saw the prototype vassel b4 in schlumberger exhibition... it's like under the vessel there is a huge net with hydrophone if i'm not mistaken...

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nice job..always dream of doing such challenging job rclxms.gif

im doing my mechanical now,hopefully can get such job when I graduate..

suitable for single like me
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jul 25 2007, 01:16 PM)
Dear guys and gals.

This morning I attended a Shell Career talk in Multimedia University.

I asked about offshore prospects of an engineering student majoring in electronics but the representative said that the chances are very very slim.

I was told that it was dificult to be offshore as well.

I am wondering know, as a future electronics engineering graduate majoring in Telecommunication, how am I going to get myself offshore.

Thank you.
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not really...i am also from an electonics eng background, diploma level only...too lazy to further study & now working as a Operation Tech (Process) & based offshore. so i would say there is a chance for electronic background to work offshore, the chances are higher if you dont mind to be frontline people as technicians, but for higher level & engineers, mostly they are office based & only comes out offshore when needed.

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Ah.. yes. I was searching for SSB only. Pardon me. laugh.gif
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have u heard about how is the working environment in SSB?
anyone did internship in SSB?
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have u heard about how is the working environment in SSB?
anyone did internship in SSB?
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there are various departments in SSB.
u mean which one?
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there are various departments in SSB.
u mean which one?
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well..i wanna try to apply internship and wanna learn more in networking, routers..etc..so do u think IT department is suitable for me?

I am electronic and computer enginering and my interest to learn in netwroking site. So thats why i wanna know is it the interest that i have to apply should be in engineering or IT department.

and the working environment according to that department.

Thnx..

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Hi, I would like to know how can I find resource on vacancy for Oil & Gas Service firm? I thought not all of them advertise in the newspaper, only big company do. Thanks
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Well, my dad doin on/off shores work in Kota Belud, Sabah

He said Shell is trying to recruit 60 engineers.

Well. he said that couple months ago.

My brother is also working in the o&g field. works for contract. not aware of the company name.


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I am a Degree freshgrad without any experience.... and sad to say CGPA below 3.0..... Can i work offshore as well? or you guys think i shuold forget about joining this industry because my result way too bad? Anyone here can give me some advise please?


Added on November 18, 2007, 1:20 amHi hi....Is this topic closed?

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QUOTE(Living_Cafe @ Nov 17 2007, 11:21 PM)
I am a Degree freshgrad without any experience.... and sad to say CGPA below 3.0..... Can i work offshore as well? or you guys think i shuold forget about joining this industry because my result way too bad? Anyone here can give me some advise please?


Added on November 18, 2007, 1:20 amHi hi....Is this topic closed?
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wat course did u took? im also in the O&G field. but currently still studying. however starting this Dec i'll be starting my internship program and will be posted to Miri. smile.gif
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Result is not the only factor they consider, I will say presentation skill is more important than result
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yup. that is true. luck also plays factor.. huhu.. but the most important is ur performance during the interview. alot of factors will be considered by them b4 taking u onboard..

juz try ur best. i think the 1st step is to submit ur resume to them. search online for their emails.. try ur luck mate..
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something to share...

million dollar baby...
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this email is circulating among the oil&gas staffs in this country...
signature bonus, (should be)5 yrs, get $1mil upon sign the contract... applicable to well experienced staff only...







p/s: pls don't pm me stupid questions, thank you...
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Hi, I would like to know how can I find resource on vacancy for Oil & Gas Service firm? I thought not all of them advertise in the newspaper, only big company do. Thanks
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yesterday's Borneo Post got vacancy for both Engineers & Technicians advertised by Shell & Murphy Oil.

quick, send in your resume now! offer ends december 1
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QUOTE(GaussSeidel @ Nov 18 2007, 12:39 PM)
wat course did u took? im also in the O&G field. but currently still studying. however starting this Dec i'll be starting my internship program and will be posted to Miri.  smile.gif
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I am taking Electronic Engineering mjoring in Computer.


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Result is not the only factor they consider, I will say presentation skill is more important than result
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But so far i posted to a few small company until now no reply leh....i think mayb they see result more than anything else cuz i am a fresh grad.... However some did offer me IT job but the course which i study is not much related to IT ler... isshhh


Anyway i will keep trying until i get.... hope will get some good news soon

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yeah, for small company, they will consider result first. but for oil and gas company like shell, they will emphasize more in problem solving skill, leadership and presentation skill!!!


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yah..exactly rite what winterbear said...so is petronas..in an interview, the question would be more on problem solving skill and how presentable you are...hehe..pointer is just a 'leftover'....

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Izit Borneo Post job recruirment is mainly open to East Malaysian?
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Izit Borneo Post job recruirment is mainly open to East Malaysian?
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not really. if it's like that why do we have a bunch of engineers from the west malaysia too?
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Nov 19 2007, 04:19 PM)
yesterday's Borneo Post got vacancy for both Engineers & Technicians advertised by Shell & Murphy Oil.

quick, send in your resume now! offer ends december 1
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Sigh, i seldom find this type of advertisement in east coast's news paper. thanks anyway...
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some of the company didn't advertise in newspaper if they're lacking few people only.... you might need some help from someone who know the HR staff... or ppl who working in this industry (related to your discipline)
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if you're a west malaysian, u need a work permit to work in sarawak. make sure whatever job u apply from sarawak, the employer is aware that you are west malaysian and is willing to pay for you to work there.
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Any idea is there any place where I can find list of company for o&g company in M'sia.
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If i not mistaken i remember coming across Star Jobs today(Sat Nov 24) an opening for graduate trainee engineer by Petrofac Malaysia, a PSC contractor to Petronas. Something to do with oilfield developments and deals with offshore projects.
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Hi all,
If u really want to join o&g...please go to www.rigzone.com. for fresh graduate try to apply to be a trainee in the position that you like most.you got three option overthere. work with operator like shell, bp or chevron.or with service company like schlumberger, halliburton or mi swaco.lastly as rig worker such as transocean, seadrill or premium drilling. my advice is don't work in malaysia bcoz all the company will pay you as local/national commuter.go work overseas, you will be paid in usd.worry about usd currency...
no problem coz most of big company has their own calculation in order to overcome this problem.
for those who stay in kl, you can go to rohas perkasa building(near beach club jalan p ramlee).transocean,schlumberger and mi swaco office overthere.plese don't pm me coz i seldom stay online...currently i'm working in india in 4 week swing( means work for 4 week and off for 4 week)
hope this helps.
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Hi all,
If u really want to join o&g...please go to www.rigzone.com. for fresh graduate try to apply to be a trainee in the position that you like most.you got three option overthere. work with operator like shell, bp or chevron.or with service company like schlumberger, halliburton or mi swaco.lastly as rig worker such as transocean, seadrill or premium drilling. my advice is don't work in malaysia bcoz all the company will pay you as local/national commuter.go work overseas, you will be paid in usd.worry about usd currency...
no problem coz most of big company has their own calculation in order to overcome this problem.
for those who stay in kl, you can go to rohas perkasa building(near beach club jalan p ramlee).transocean,schlumberger and mi swaco office overthere.plese don't pm me coz i seldom stay online...currently i'm working in india in 4 week swing( means work for 4 week and off for 4 week)
hope this helps.
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yeah come n join us.. me also work for oil n gas company... for ur info my qualification only diploma in electrical (control & instrument) but my income is rm10K per month... big salary... training also syyoik.. have to jump, swim heli escape hehehehe syoik.....
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QUOTE(lempeng81 @ Nov 26 2007, 10:55 PM)
yeah come n join us.. me also work for oil n gas company... for ur info my qualification only diploma in electrical (control & instrument) but my income is rm10K  per month... big salary... training also syyoik.. have to jump, swim heli escape hehehehe syoik.....
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Wahhhhhh...so syoik ah...i mean the salary. Me having bach. degree not earning much. so cham...
Anyway, i'm have degree in computer science, any offshore job i can do ah?
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Ya la.. salary shiok.. but the working hours also 'shiok' ma.. yesterday I was outside for 12 hours working and it was raining for 3 hours during my shift. Owh and it was <5 degrees Celsius outside.

And it's supposed to be summer down here in NZ!!!
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yeah..very keng salary.MOST OF US earn more than US 6K a month in less than 5 years.also, bonus very keng...4 times a year at usd 2000 per bonus.our motto ""änother day,another dollar"
12 hours a day.that is normal working hour for us. i work for 28 days and off for 28 good days.
if u are willing to leave your loved ones 6 months/year.....than you may try to join oil and gas industry. rclxms.gif

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gatevalve, isn't that only apply to Field Engineer?

not all people who working in oil n gas get to offshore, enjoying 28 working days then follow with 28 days off.
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Anyone here working for the oil/gas industry? Share some of yur experience...those abroad and local.
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high bonus as well.. drool.gif
..can see someone from petronas is sharing his bonus info in the bonus sharing thread...

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high bonus as well.. drool.gif
..can see someone from petronas is sharing his bonus info in the bonus sharing thread...
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Ya la.. salary shiok.. but the working hours also 'shiok' ma.. yesterday I was outside for 12 hours working and it was raining for 3 hours during my shift. Owh and it was <5 degrees Celsius outside. 

And it's supposed to be summer down here in NZ!!!
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Nov 30 2007, 11:02 AM)
gatevalve, isn't that only apply to Field Engineer?

not all people who working in oil n gas get to offshore, enjoying 28 working days then follow with 28 days off.
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nope, basically rig workers like OIM,Toolpusher,Driller, Marine Engineers etc. i have friend (age about 29) and his getting more than usd 6k/month(working as assistant driller).field engineer...maybe with good company like schlumberger,halliburton or baker.again i have friend who works as mud engineer in malaysia offshore,age about 26) and getting rm 15k/month.
i enjoy doing 4 weeks swing because i really have good time off with my family....with fully paid salary. thumbup.gif

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For those who working in O&G industrial. Can i ask why the company pay you guys in USD? Is there something need to look at (like location of work) to determine the currency? Because i know some O&G company in Malaysia doing offshore work still paying in RM. I very confuse with this matter. Can anyone of you guys enlighten me? Thanks in advance smile.gif
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QUOTE(iDk @ Dec 1 2007, 10:14 PM)
For those who working in O&G industrial. Can i ask why the company pay you guys in USD? Is there something need to look at (like location of work) to determine the currency? Because i know some O&G company in Malaysia doing offshore work still paying in RM. I very confuse with this matter. Can anyone of you guys enlighten me? Thanks in advance smile.gif
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that is simple answer my friend."cut cost."another thing is no union or government interference in in this matter.my kolik from brazil told me when they worke in brazil they have a standard pay.malaysia forget bout it.also location of your rig.outside malaysia you will get usd otherwise do not take the job.some company will pay u according the area you live.normally american and french will get the highest pay.lowest...i would say african.
imagine oiler/motorman is getting usd450 only (applicable to indian national) and malaysian oiler is getting ALMOST three times bigger than that.
remember you need " luck and timing" to get the big bucks.
hope this helps.
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hell yes... oil & gas pays very well... only prob very hard to get into the industry... unless u have a large or "strong" networks
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QUOTE(gatevalve @ Dec 2 2007, 05:33 AM)
that is simple answer my friend."cut cost."another thing is no union or government interference in in this matter.my kolik from brazil told me when they worke in brazil they have a standard pay.malaysia forget bout it.also location of your rig.outside malaysia you will get usd otherwise do not take the job.some company will pay u according the area you live.normally american and french will get the highest pay.lowest...i  would say african.
imagine oiler/motorman is getting usd450 only (applicable to indian national) and malaysian oiler is getting ALMOST three times bigger than that.
remember you need " luck and timing" to get the big bucks.
hope this helps.
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Thanks brother. But if the company that i am talking about is doing services for O&G industrial like cleaning and inspection stuffs, which mean the company is not the main oil driller or manufacturer. Are the standard pay still be the same as you stated above?

Because the workers will also go to onshore to do project in other asia countries for extended period of time and get their pay in RM. Is that an appropriate standard?

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QUOTE(gatevalve @ Nov 30 2007, 03:49 AM)
yeah..very keng salary.MOST OF US earn more than US 6K a month  in less than 5 years.also, bonus very keng...4 times a year at usd 2000 per bonus.our motto ""änother day,another dollar"
12 hours a day.that is normal working hour for us. i work for 28 days and off for 28 good days.
if u are willing to leave your loved ones 6 months/year.....than you may try to join oil and gas industry. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sensation9988 @ Nov 29 2007, 08:24 AM)
Wahhhhhh...so syoik ah...i mean the salary. Me having bach. degree not earning much. so cham...
Anyway, i'm have degree in computer science, any offshore job i can do ah?
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for computer science, most probable you can apply for C&I, Operations and Condition Monitoring

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QUOTE(lempeng81 @ Nov 26 2007, 10:55 PM)
yeah come n join us.. me also work for oil n gas company... for ur info my qualification only diploma in electrical (control & instrument) but my income is rm10K  per month... big salary... training also syyoik.. have to jump, swim heli escape hehehehe syoik.....
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I uploaded my resume there a few weeks ago but until now i still dont get any respond leh... issshh.... How long you guys need to wait until they give u some reply? have i fail to impress them with my resume?

My education back ground is degree in electronic (Computer) but CGPA lower than 3.0 with no working experience. sweat.gif


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QUOTE(gatevalve @ Nov 30 2007, 03:49 AM)
yeah..very keng salary.MOST OF US earn more than US 6K a month  in less than 5 years.also, bonus very keng...4 times a year at usd 2000 per bonus.our motto ""änother day,another dollar"
12 hours a day.that is normal working hour for us. i work for 28 days and off for 28 good days.
if u are willing to leave your loved ones 6 months/year.....than you may try to join oil and gas industry. rclxms.gif
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yes, i do agrees that to make big bucks means sacrifices. I'm willing to leave my love ones for big bucks and seriously looking to join oil n gas like offshore works. But sadly, applications got refused and i don't have the "jalan" for this occupation icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Living_Cafe @ Dec 2 2007, 08:20 PM)
I uploaded my resume there a few weeks ago but until now i still dont get any respond leh... issshh.... How long you guys need to wait until they give u some reply? have i fail to impress them with my resume?

My education back ground is degree in electronic (Computer) but CGPA lower than 3.0 with no working experience.  sweat.gif
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normally it takes up to months to wait for a reply IF you were short listed.
but then you can take the initiative to call up and enquire bout your status.

Most companies will not notify you if there isn't any good news
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QUOTE(howlingblues @ Dec 2 2007, 09:40 PM)
yes, i do agrees that to make big bucks means sacrifices. I'm willing to leave my love ones for big bucks and seriously looking to join oil n gas like offshore works. But sadly, applications got refused and i don't have the "jalan" for this occupation  icon_question.gif
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If you cannot get into oil and gas, perhaps you can give a a shot at shipping? Work onboard ships instead of at oil platforms? The pay in both fields is not very much different.
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QUOTE(maniac_rage @ Dec 2 2007, 09:54 PM)
If you cannot get into oil and gas, perhaps you can give a a shot at shipping? Work onboard ships instead of at oil platforms? The pay in both fields is not very much different.
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But shipping quite tough le...but also syok...the place i now working got a few technicians who used to sail the world in barge and cargo ships. Just listening to their adventures are already mouth watering
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But shipping quite tough le...but also syok...the place i now working got a few technicians who used to sail the world in barge and cargo ships. Just listening to their adventures are already mouth watering
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I used to work on merchant ships for about 6 years before man.mouth watering stories....be careful because i was working with foreign company i met some malaysian from misc. it was paranagua, brasil.i asked them to go out to have some "fun" in town but they prefer to stay in the ship because "no money".when it comes to salay oil and gas will offer better salary and you will have better off day.for shipping you may have to work for 4,6 or 9 months and will be off for 2 or 3 months only.eanyone can tell you the story even it was other experience.
again working with malaysian company...expect very low salary.i worked with 2 malaysian shipping company and foreign companies before.
some of the ex-seaman will tell you all the good/intresting story........true or not. i don't know.he he.

i would be nice to be a seaman if you are bachelor without any commitment.are willing to leave your wife and kids for 6 months? for me the answer is no no. do the shipping company pay you during your off days?in case of emergency and you need to go back.....is it possibble when you are in the middle of ocean and will arrive the nearest port in one week time?

for deck officers or marine engineers from merchant ship you will be able to work on drill ship and most of drilling company are getting new drill ship because the future is deepwater.eletricak engineeer also will find no problem to work on the drilling rig.for those with other qualification you may try to work with service company like schlumberger, halliburton, baker atlas etc.i don't know much about production platorm because work in drilling rig.
agin please go to www.rigzone.com and try to check all the company available overthere. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Heads up to anyone who's interested in getting into seismic (a segment within Oil & Gas), my company (Western Geco) will be expanding our fleet with an additional 6 new seismic vessels. They're looking to hire ~800 new employees to man these new ships over the next three years. So start sending in those resumes guys!

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned trading so far. Trading is buying & selling of crude oil, gas etc. If you're really good, expect to be a millionaire before you're 40.

To start, get hired by one of the big guys first and get lots of experience there. Shell, Exxon-Mobil, Petronas all have trading in this region. There may be a lot of travel involved so those who enjoy travelling around the world in business class will have some fun here. Once you have experience the sky's the limit!


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QUOTE(enkadirmainbola @ Dec 4 2007, 08:26 AM)
Heads up to anyone who's interested in getting into seismic (a segment within Oil & Gas), my company (Western Geco) will be expanding our fleet with an additional 6 new seismic vessels. They're looking to hire ~800 new employees to man these new ships over the next three years. So start sending in those resumes guys!
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this is really a great news for job seekers intending to involve in Oil and gas like me.
it just blow my mind.
btw, ugpm.


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I'm surprised nobody mentioned trading so far. Trading is buying & selling of crude oil, gas etc. If you're really good, expect to be a millionaire before you're 40.

To start, get hired by one of the big guys first and get lots of experience there. Shell, Exxon-Mobil, Petronas all have trading in this region. There may be a lot of travel involved so those who enjoy travelling around the world in business class will have some fun here. Once you have experience the sky's the limit!
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Perhaps there are more engineering grads here than the business grad...
somehow i read your posting twice, and still couldn't get your point. Trading would means involve in stock market trends monitoring in these companies i.e. shell, petronas etc?

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QUOTE(enkadirmainbola @ Dec 4 2007, 08:26 AM)
Heads up to anyone who's interested in getting into seismic (a segment within Oil & Gas), my company (Western Geco) will be expanding our fleet with an additional 6 new seismic vessels. They're looking to hire ~800 new employees to man these new ships over the next three years. So start sending in those resumes guys!
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Brother, to apply western geco, must go through Schlumberger ark? or got other way round?
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As far as I know you'll have to apply through Schlumberger... best way is to apply online or go to career fairs and visit SLB's booth. It's easier to specify that you'd like to get into Western Geco if you tell them directly.
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QUOTE(howlingblues @ Dec 4 2007, 10:51 PM)
Perhaps there are more engineering grads here than the business grad...
somehow i read your posting twice, and still couldn't get your point. Trading would means involve in stock market trends monitoring in these companies i.e. shell, petronas etc?
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Trading of the actual goods themselves, oil, gas etc. You buy and sell them, the physical stuff, not just at the stock market or futures level. Most trading companies will have oil terminals, the big ones will have ships.



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QUOTE(enkadirmainbola @ Dec 4 2007, 08:26 AM)
Heads up to anyone who's interested in getting into seismic (a segment within Oil & Gas), my company (Western Geco) will be expanding our fleet with an additional 6 new seismic vessels. They're looking to hire ~800 new employees to man these new ships over the next three years. So start sending in those resumes guys!
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hmm... perhaps i should test the market... rohas perkasa is not too far from my current office... hmm.gif
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wut position can i apply for with a degree in quantity surveying ? if there is any...
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I've sent my application like 2 years ago and still I am not contacted. Guess that my qualifications aren't good enough. I have a bachelor degree in electronics.


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I've sent my application like 2 years ago and still I am not contacted. Guess that my qualifications aren't good enough. I have a bachelor degree in electronics.
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You will need some luck to get a chance to interview.... Its never easy to get into oil and gas company unless u know someone inside the company.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Dec 7 2007, 01:56 AM)
I've sent my application like 2 years ago and still I am not contacted. Guess that my qualifications aren't good enough. I have a bachelor degree in electronics.
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Try again larr.. you are allowed to apply again after 2 years if you were unsuccessful the first time around.

Right now the seismic market is booming.. so there's a lot of scrambling between diff seismic companies to hire crews to man their new vessels.

And that thing about needing an 'inside' man to get a job in SLB.. completely untrue. I've never even heard of Schlumberger before I graduated from university.


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Interesting thread! Feel obliged to share:

FYI, I work in the projects division - building platforms/rigs/modules and retrofiting existing ones. There are less known positions available in this division of O&G for those interested. Disclaimer: if yer fresh, expect starting salaries like any other industry - RM2k+, but if you're persistant, hard working, and competent, you would be able to build a good career and probably have a chance to crack those big $$$ income.

1. Procurement Analyst/Contract Administrator - managing sourcing of materials and services. This includes tracking the manufacturing progress of the materials and coordinating with the 'client' engineers on QA/QC (testing) requirements. Usually we hire those with Accounting/Business Administration back ground, but some of the more highly technical ones may require engineers. Be warned that this job is stressful, as it deals with all kinds of people/companies - some are helpful, some are just... well... people! But I know a few in their 30s earning >RM15k/mth

2. Project Planner/Project Contract Administrator - helps Project Managers do the details of tracking the progress of multi million $$$ projects. There are planners on both client and contractor sides whom tracks progress of the project using softwares like Primavera and Microsoft Project. Think of it of pages and pages of timeline charts, and trying to give a picture the project well being. More advanced project planners also create 'job cards' for their subcontractors - kinda like small job scopes that the sub contractors need to complete for the project. Lastly, project planners also have to look back against the project contract and ensure that the contractual requirements are met. The best planners I've seen have Computer Science background.

3. Engineers - can't live without them - mechanical, piping, structural, electrical, instrument... but by far the rarest of them are material engineers. These are usually mechanical engineers with the added knowledge of metalurgy, welding processes and quality control. After completing basic degree, the engineer takes additional training in metalurgy i.e. the ANSI codes governing the metals, and the required testings such as radiography, ultrasonics, metal chemistry tests, charpy impact tests etc... I've heard of asking salaries of >RM20k/mth

4. Inspectors/Technician - the eyes and ears of the engineers, usually requiring technical diplomas to apply. Again, the rarest ones are the metalurgy technicians - those that conduct weld radiography exercises at midnight, when no one is at the yard. This is a highly specialized job, going through much training and qualification tests. You can expect freshies earning >RM5k salary, but the hazards are quite obvious....

5. Documentation clerks - with over 50+, 4in thick binders of documentation, every project will need to have one - filing all those drawings, material testing reports, manuals etc. Now there are even companies specializing in documentation as newer generation projects tend to 'scan' and index everything into DVDs.

6. Safety Officers - the modern day version includes those that can provide trade training, become event organizers (like having Safety Days), prepare weekly safety materials on billboards and providing statistics to the PM. If you do the job well and the workers are safe, you don't have to do the next job - incident reports. Any diploma would do, but we usually look for those that have gone through a few NIOSH training.


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QUOTE(lempeng81 @ Nov 26 2007, 10:55 PM)
yeah come n join us.. me also work for oil n gas company... for ur info my qualification only diploma in electrical (control & instrument) but my income is rm10K  per month... big salary... training also syyoik.. have to jump, swim heli escape hehehehe syoik.....
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wah of course la syiokk the huet & sea survival thing...but i hate the EBS Rebreather!

some more, my salary is not that syiok compared to you....what to do, im still noob i this industry..a mere 2 years plus
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QUOTE(Myclamyra @ Dec 8 2007, 09:41 AM)
3. Engineers - can't live without them - mechanical, piping, structural, electrical, instrument... but by far the rarest of them are material engineers. These are usually mechanical engineers with the added knowledge of metalurgy, welding processes and quality control. After completing basic degree, the engineer takes additional training in metalurgy i.e. the ANSI codes governing the metals, and the required testings such as radiography, ultrasonics, metal chemistry tests, charpy impact tests etc... I've heard of asking salaries of >RM20k/mth
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Wow. RM20k/mth. Must be for those really senior right ? Anyway i really hate materials/metallurgy subject. Almost failed my mechanics of materials sweat.gif

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wonders if i would fit in... freshie with comp system dip with no programming skill n bad math head.. really interesting tho as i dont have any obligation or anything.. would really enjoy working offshore night or day with ocean around...as i dont really like deskjob, so any chances? dont really care for money as long as the payment is decent n can save some,any advise?
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what about RTO(Real time operation) engineer?? I'm planning to apply one as fresh grad.
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Anyone here who were previously working with consultants and currently working with clients?

Besides of good pay, new job scope & environment change, is there any other reason for you guys to 'change side' ?
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QUOTE(Setan[X] @ Dec 12 2007, 10:39 AM)
wonders if i would fit in... freshie with comp system dip with no programming skill n bad math head.. really interesting tho as i dont have any obligation or anything.. would really enjoy working offshore night or day with ocean around...as i dont really like deskjob, so any chances? dont really care  for money as long as the payment is decent n can save some,any advise?
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have some basic safety training line up in your resume such as sea survival & huet, you might get a chance.
or try to apply for service company 1st.

actually what would you aimed for?
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have some basic safety training line up in your resume such as sea survival & huet, you might get a chance.
or try to apply for service company 1st.actually what would you aimed for?


where can i get those safety training? i assume like the huet i got to pay for it, yes? HUET = Helicopter Underwater Emergency Training? any service company u would recommend? the job scope?

what am i aiming for, on the job or life? if the job i think i dont really know yet as the interest is building im trying to find more info n learn a bit about OnG etc, if i might say, i think i love technical job, on the field, i dont mind dirty job as long as the work is is enjoyable for me. really appreciated if u guys can tell more about this field.. as when i was in school i dont really know this kind of thing and mom n dad always point where to go as i obeyed.. really wanna be a fighter pilot even now but strongly denied by parent.. but then again how can since im so bad with math heeee biggrin.gif. rite now im really searching where to begin or to continue walking down the career path.

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QUOTE(Setan[X] @ Dec 12 2007, 04:12 PM)
where can i get those safety training? i assume like the huet i got to pay for it, yes? HUET = Helicopter Underwater Emergency Training? any service company u would recommend? the job scope?

what am i aiming for, on the job or life? if the job i think i dont really know yet as the interest is building im trying to find more info n learn a bit about OnG etc, if i might say, i think i love technical job, on the field, i dont mind dirty job as long as the work is is enjoyable for me. really appreciated if u guys can tell more about this field.. as when i was in school i dont really know this kind of thing and mom n dad always point where to go as i obeyed.. really wanna be a fighter pilot even now but strongly denied by parent.. but then again how can since im so bad with math heeee  biggrin.gif. rite now im really searching where to begin or to continue walking down the career path.
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yeah of course, last time basic sea survival & huet might cost rm1k++ depending on the training centres.
usually i've have my training session at Sribima Maritime Training Centre, Miri. http://www.smtc.com.my/

if that is your case you might apply for service/contractor companies like Petra Resources, Dayang Enterprise or the catering services.


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huhu. just finished my BOSET last wed. HUET is really challenging. btw my fee was rm 1198. CA1(A) course. anyone done their training in miri ?
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huhu. just finished my BOSET last wed. HUET is really challenging. btw my fee was rm 1198. CA1(A) course. anyone done their training in miri ?
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yeah...next year for refresher course.

you jump from which level of the platform brows.gif ?


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Hi speedfamgirl,

Noticed that you're from "Central Luconia". Any chance you're on E11 platform? I was there last week to fix something for Shell.
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thanks for the info speedfamgirl n GaussSeidel. 1k is a bit high for me, but let see in this couple of month how its goes.. if got any luck then here i comes vast view of ocean .. ocean n ocean.. haha.
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just wonder...any sales job position in O&G company?
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just wonder...any sales job position in O&G company?
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just wonder...any sales job position in O&G company?
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Search for what I posted earlier... tongue.gif
But yes, to echo WildChai you need experience.


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Hi speedfamgirl,

Noticed that you're from "Central Luconia". Any chance you're on E11 platform? I was there last week to fix something for Shell.
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bwahahaa! i just come back from E11 last Monday! tongue.gif

yeah, i am attached to the hub...maybe we have met? so many people i cant remember....
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yeah...next year for refresher course.

you jump from which level of the platform brows.gif ?
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haha. which level? of course the top one. the 'old' guys jump from one level below. safety reasons i think. hehe. u r based in miri?

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haha. which level? of course the top one. the 'old' guys jump from one level below. safety reasons i think. hehe. u r based in miri?
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yakah? really ah? a bit scary owh...takes about few seconds to reach the water. sum more my position during that time is no good... tongue.gif sakit badan all over after that biggrin.gif

yes i am based in miri.
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Dec 14 2007, 07:36 AM)
Search for what I posted earlier...  tongue.gif
But yes, to echo WildChai you need experience.
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i only had 2 years sales experince in IT...is there any chance for me to jump over sales line in O&G?

as u guys mention, my sales skill/product currently nothing related to O&G, thats y i wonder if there is still any chances?
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Hi guys! Been a passive follower of this thread for a while now, but time to share in my experience in O&G!

Heh currently working in one of top consultants/contractors in this business, in KL office. But not so glamourous as u guys, I'm the eng. stay in office all the time wan sad.gif Really hope got chance to go out site, stay in office enjoy aircond everyday very sien for young ppl !

Yeah like previously mentioned before, the starting salary for fresh grads who stay in the office (like me) are pretty standard like any other industry. But $$$ wise, seems like it'll jump up pretty fast once u get some experience under your belt. And this seems like a stable industry, last time during 1997 recession the company even managed to give increment twice a year and didnt even layoff a single person!

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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Dec 14 2007, 10:50 AM)
yakah? really ah? a bit scary owh...takes about few seconds to reach the water. sum more my position during that time is no good... tongue.gif sakit badan all over after that biggrin.gif

yes i am based in miri.
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owh.. where's ur ofice? mine near the sko. how long will u stay here? maybe we can meet up sometime.. huhu.. quite boring here in miri. huhu
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QUOTE(GaussSeidel @ Dec 14 2007, 07:09 PM)
owh.. where's ur ofice? mine near the sko. how long will u stay here? maybe we can meet up sometime.. huhu.. quite boring here in miri. huhu
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yalah...boring la me here. btw, im in kch right now tongue.gif
when offweek go straight back, only stay 1 night in miri before going back offshore.
next week i will go back to miri, no xmas leave. malas laa...mauk OT banyak2 beli cdj

i'm no office base....
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post Dec 14 2007, 08:46 PM

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yalah...boring la me here. btw, im in kch right now tongue.gif
when offweek go straight back, only stay 1 night in miri before going back offshore.
next week i will go back to miri, no xmas leave. malas laa...mauk OT banyak2 beli cdj

i'm no office base....
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waa.. cool.. i still can't go offshore yet. juz submitted my form for the passport last wed. dun know when can go. huhu.
u r stayin at which platform? hope to meet u some day.. tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(GaussSeidel @ Dec 14 2007, 08:46 PM)
waa.. cool.. i still can't go offshore yet. juz submitted my form for the passport last wed. dun know when can go. huhu.
u r stayin at which platform? hope to meet u some day..  tongue.gif
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relax laa....offshore cant go nowhere, still stuck there jugak tongue.gif

currently i am attached to E11 HUB Complex

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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Dec 11 2007, 09:54 PM)
wah of course la syiokk the huet & sea survival thing...but i hate the EBS Rebreather!

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I probably swallowed more chlorined water compared to my entire lifetime during my HUET.. it was great fun tho!!
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QUOTE(crapster @ Dec 14 2007, 02:52 PM)
Hi guys! Been a passive follower of this thread for a while now, but time to share in my experience in O&G!

Heh currently working in one of top consultants/contractors in this business, in KL office. But not so glamourous as u guys, I'm the eng. stay in office all the time wan  sad.gif      Really hope got chance to go out site, stay in office enjoy aircond everyday very sien for young ppl !

Yeah like previously mentioned before, the starting salary for fresh grads who stay in the office (like me) are pretty standard like any other industry. But $$$ wise, seems like it'll jump up pretty fast once u get some experience under your belt. And this seems like a stable industry, last time during 1997 recession the company even managed to give increment twice a year and didnt even layoff a single person!
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You're in the same boat with me laugh.gif . It's hard to get the chance to go to site unless there's a site visit prior to problem encountered during fabrication or commissioning. I'm also a fresh grad and I hope I can gain as much as experience as the time goes by. I really envy my seniors who are already earning 5 figures.

Is there any other forummer who is working with consultants/contractor? besides me and crapster?
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QUOTE(enkadirmainbola @ Dec 17 2007, 12:01 AM)
I probably swallowed more chlorined water compared to my entire lifetime during my HUET.. it was great fun tho!!
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i thought that they used sea water?

what i know is after the training my hair keras all over tongue.gif
sum more got sunburn...
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speedfamgirl... what is current condition at south china sea? wind speed, and wave...

just now my department call me again for a drilling operation at murphy semisub rig at offshore sabah... but i think i can't go due to current workload... hmm.gif
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i have a few Q regarding the O&G industry

1. i'm currently doing my first degree in pure chemistry in the local U.
any chance for us (chemistry graduate(s)) to join the O&G industry?

2. Does it make any difference btw degree holder and master holder in term of their salaries and chances to join the O&G industry?

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QUOTE(forrest @ Dec 17 2007, 01:44 PM)
speedfamgirl... what is current condition at south china sea? wind speed, and wave...

just now my department call me again for a drilling operation at murphy semisub rig at offshore sabah... but i think i can't go due to current workload...  hmm.gif
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for the last few weeks sea cond wave is up to 4.5 meters high, very dangerous for boat transfer.
I even have to go to remote jacked by chopper last trip.

wind speed varies from 10-30 knots
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i'd like to join o&g too... want to give my family a good life...

3yrs+ experience...
java (1 1/2 yrs) & .net (1 1/2 yrs)

i know it's pretty limited for software engineers in o&g... but still i'd like to give it a try. tired of being underpaid.
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QUOTE(leng2 @ Dec 18 2007, 12:37 AM)
i'd like to join o&g too... want to give my family a good life...

3yrs+ experience...
java (1 1/2 yrs) & .net (1 1/2 yrs)

i know it's pretty limited for software engineers in o&g... but still i'd like to give it a try. tired of being underpaid.
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if i were you i want to be a professional dj instead...hehee...nah joking coz i never into producing.

well, in o&g there are certain companies that gives underpaid salary to it's workers.
they only have interest to keep their geologist, scientist and the managers rather than the frontline workers.
i know they are the most important, but without the frontliners, money would not be pumping to their profits.
i am a mere control room operator offshore & our departments receives the most pressure regarding everyday output. people think that our job is easy by looking at the nature of it....but it's not likely. i rather choose instrumentation instead, lots of troubleshooting & problem solving. it only cost a level 3 in competency to be able to switch discipline.




my rants.... tongue.gif
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hmm... so that means IT jobs in o&g companies, may not necessary means better pay than inland jobs?
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hii..i just finished my spm this year..n choosing my future now..
i would like some recommendations...on ong industry.,,
highly demanding job,big bucks...n etc..

n wad will happen to ong industry if 1 day the oil really runs out? hmm.gif
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that will only happen in the next 50-60 years...
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but got someone post malaysia will run out of oil by 2011 -.- ...
chemical engineer suit for wad job?...
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Dec 18 2007, 11:00 AM)
if i were you i want to be a professional dj instead...hehee...nah joking coz i never into producing.

well, in o&g there are certain companies that gives underpaid salary to it's workers.
they only have interest to keep their geologist, scientist and the managers rather than the frontline workers.
i know they are the most important, but without the frontliners, money would not be pumping to their profits.
i am a mere control room operator offshore & our departments receives the most pressure regarding everyday output. people think that our job is easy by looking at the nature of it....but it's not likely. i rather choose instrumentation instead, lots of troubleshooting & problem solving. it only cost a level 3 in competency to be able to switch discipline.
my rants.... tongue.gif
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this is quite true...not that im experiencing it myself, but people that i met working in the industry said the salary is cheap....no wonder many experienced workers cabut lari and go oversea where the pay is if im not mistaken.....as they said....the salaries they been paid for 5 years working at the old company is equivalent of only one year working oversea...hhmmm go figure.... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(heartbreakk @ Dec 19 2007, 02:05 AM)
hii..i just finished my spm this year..n choosing my future now..
i would like some recommendations...on ong industry.,,
highly demanding job,big bucks...n etc..

n wad will happen to ong industry if 1 day the oil really runs out? hmm.gif
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hehe if u want big money go open business lah...just kidding icon_rolleyes.gif ....o & g is big business, but only if u r in a big company....i guess.... sweat.gif

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i'm just want askin..right now i already complete my degree in marine science so what kind of post should i go for?
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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Dec 19 2007, 11:48 PM)
this is quite true...not that im experiencing it myself, but people that i met working in the industry said the salary is cheap....no wonder many experienced workers cabut lari and go oversea where the pay is if im not mistaken.....as they said....the salaries they been paid for 5 years working at the old company is equivalent of only one year working oversea...hhmmm go figure.... hmm.gif


Added on December 19, 2007, 11:50 pm
hehe if u want big money go open business lah...just kidding icon_rolleyes.gif ....o & g  is big business, but only if u r in a big company....i guess.... sweat.gif
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yeah really.....even if they dont go oversea, my seniors always aimed for better pay companies rather than now.
but of course with much considerations....if only salary is up a few hundreds from the current salary, they wont,

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lol...
wondering how to become petroleum engineer?..
any1 can tell me?..i mean which course to be taken n..all so on..
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QUOTE(heartbreakk @ Dec 21 2007, 12:00 AM)
lol...
wondering how to become petroleum engineer?..
any1 can tell me?..i mean which course to be taken n..all so on..
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mechanical engineering
chemical engineering
petroleum engineering
civil engineering

about other course, let others to answer it.
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post Dec 21 2007, 05:06 PM

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chemical then-->petroleum engineering?..
coz i read a course bout chemical engineering,the fourth year can learn bout petroleum processing.,.mean is chemical&petroleum engineer?..
got uni direct offer petroleum engineering de meh?..
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QUOTE(heartbreakk @ Dec 21 2007, 05:06 PM)
chemical then-->petroleum engineering?..
coz i read a course bout chemical engineering,the fourth year can learn bout petroleum processing.,.mean is chemical&petroleum engineer?..
got uni direct offer petroleum engineering de meh?..
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UTP offers the course in petroleum engineering if I'm not mistaken. A friend cites that it's somewhat similar to the road taken as any chemical engineering course with a whole lot of emphasis put on petroleum. Actually, either way, you'd be a sought after commodity for oil and gas companies if you do well in either course, which chemical engineering giving you a wider spectrum of job selection. A friend of mine who studied geology secured a job at Carigali Petronas right after graduating from USM. So if chemistry isn't you're thing, perhaps you can consider geology as well. tongue.gif


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heartbreakk, I would say depend what part of oil n gas u aiming for.

Upstream?
Downstream?

Chemical Engineering can involved in refinery, process, plant design, etc.
They can even work in drilling/reservoir if the company decide to take them.

btw moonstone13, chemical engineering isn't much about "chemistry" but physics yes.

And petroleum engineering in UTP, I see it more similiar to what mechanical engineering compared to Chemical Engineering.

EG, pipeline engineering. Civil/mechanical usually the one being hired to work in it but there are chemical engineers as well.
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QUOTE(afique @ Dec 17 2007, 05:59 PM)
i have a few Q regarding the O&G industry

1. i'm currently doing my first degree in pure chemistry in the local U.
any chance for us (chemistry graduate(s)) to join the O&G industry?

2. Does it make any difference btw degree holder and master holder in term of their salaries and chances to join the O&G industry?

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Choosing Upstream (getting the oil/gas out of the ground) and Downstream (Process it into something useful) would be the first consideration.

In terms of technical upstream is quite 'boring' to a Chem Eng, as most of the process involved are purely mechanical i.e. u play around with P, T and Q to get basic liquid-gas separation. Additionally, all the rules (i.e. vessel sizing) have been established by either American Petroleum Institute or in house design rules. Rarely do you actually get to use reaction formulas in anything (probably only in gas dehydration using glycol, but that's it). However, being good at fluid dynamics helps a lot.

In upstream, you can join projects (as a process engineer), reservoir engineer or production engineer (i.e facilities engineer, that looks after the performance of a running production facility i.e. platform). The switch to reservoir engineer needs a little bit of effort because you need to to learn a bit of geology. Do note that process engineer here places more emphasis of designing the faciliuty such that 'everything is under control' i.e. the pipes are of right size and thickness, there's enough redundancy, doing Hazard Analysis (HAZOP) (i.e. to simulate process upsets and see if there are enough devices to keep the process under control). Ocasionally you get to size pumps and compressors, but as mentioned before, all of these are dictated by API and established calculations. Don't be fooled though, Process Engineers are up there with Material Engs in terms of salary. It's hard to find Process Engineer who can do HYSIS, HAZOP it properly and anticipate all the real world issues like sand, fouling, emulsion and also make the facility user friendly.

On the Downstream side, your Chem Eng. subjects will be of more use, especially in projects (also called Process Engineers). You'll have lots of fun running all kinds of simulation, sizing all kinds of pumps, compressors, chillers, HX, distilation etc.. You can also join the operations side i.e. the tech support of a running plant. Or you can join the R&D, although usually they will try to hire ones with higher qualifications (Masters and beyond).

Your CGPA determines how much $$$ you start. But in the long run, it probably doesn't matter. If your aiming to start as an engineer and grow into management, People Skills are more important.

Hope this helps.
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Myclamyra, he studying chemistry.
Not chemical engineering.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 21 2007, 09:59 PM)
heartbreakk, I would say depend what part of oil n gas u aiming for.

Upstream?
Downstream?

Chemical Engineering can involved in refinery, process, plant design, etc.
They can even work in drilling/reservoir if the company decide to take them.

btw moonstone13, chemical engineering isn't much about "chemistry" but physics yes.

And petroleum engineering in UTP, I see it more similiar to what mechanical engineering compared to Chemical Engineering.

EG, pipeline engineering. Civil/mechanical usually the one being hired to work in it but there are chemical engineers as well.
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Hmm...I'm not too sure about chemistry in chemical engineering but if it's automotive or mechanical it sure deals with a wide spectrum of physics.

Could you enlighten me on which engineering discipline has a slight edge to be employed in the oil and gas sector? Many state mechanical engineers are better all rounders. But perhaps you're more well-versed in this? Thanks notworthy.gif
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I don't think it wise for me to comment because I'm still an undergraduate mechanical engineering student.

From what the info I know, it seem mechanical engineers are more well-rounded. At least we study more subjects compared to other courses where make us more "versatile" compared to others but my friend chemical engineering, get an internship opportunity in drilling department, UMW oil n gas where mostly mechanical engineering students would be involved in it.

I would say civil/mechanical/chemical stand a high chance to join oil n gas sector. Upstream or downstream, that would depend on job availability or how good you are.

So just take the course u prefer the most and hopefully get yourself involved in oil n gas sector after you grad. smile.gif
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FIRST STEP in joining in oNg requires you to initially determine that your life is your work

live in offshore for a long time...far form your love ones and your fun life

but that takes around 5-6 years..after that you probally be in managerial level...it depends though on your performance


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Mechanical Engineer usually dealing with manufacturing, production, maintenance, facilities, equipment or anything got to do with physical. Basically anything except computer language programming, circuit board design etc, mechanical engineer can jump in. But i warn you, it is not as fun as you think to do mechanical engineering thing, especially when come to machineries, all the boys (including me) will start to think engine, turbo, stuffs like that. in the end, you will no way near those things that you think it is fun at the first place. Mechanical engineering is very strong on their physic, materials, force, fluid mechanics, dynamic force, thermodynamic, energy calculation, production calculation. So lets say you are at production field in essambly department, the ppl usually will just throw at you the productions' problems, you yourself got to go and figure it out the root cause of problem, correction solution provided and every single thing that you talk need to backup with facts, data, and results. Basically, you need to do every single things, from the start until the end with the exactly estimated answer. If anything gone wrong in between, your arse will be the one they going after. So you can imagine, if you at the field where you not familiar with or have never encounter before like oil rig, air plane, or marine ship. Every single time before you open up your mouth to talk or suggest, you better think deep deep in your head with the support of your engineering knowledge and calculation. Or else..... hihi

I hope you guys understand what is mechanical engineering like even through i only as a production engineer in the company that manufacture small and highly precise product. You have no idea that the one small thing can bring you so many headache. So imagine the thing that you dealing with cost a lot of money like millions.
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 21 2007, 10:55 PM)
Myclamyra, he studying chemistry.
Not chemical engineering.
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Apologies, my bad... I'm in upstream, and I can't remember any chem science degree holders here. We do have chemists, but those are usually diploma holders only. Maybe someone in downstream could advise.

As for the comment on mech eng, yes, in general they have about the right foundation subjects to work in O&G and are very flexible. In operations, they can fit into facilities/production eng, material/corrosion control eng, rotating equipment eng... if in projects, they can be structural eng, piping eng, and also rotating equipment eng... a little bit of training would allow them to go into reservoir management since they already have fluid dyn.

Remember, the degree is more of a key to get in. Once you're in, it's the people management and troubleshooting skills that will bring you further.

Important point by iDk is that most of the engineers hired in multinationals do not 'invent' things, rather 'engineer' things to keep things under control and running, usually by troubleshooting an existing set of products/equipment. When we 'design' a facility, it actually means sizing the equipment needed to run the facility safely and buy componenets from the manufacturers, kinda like Williams building their formula 1 car. If you want to make new products that serve O&G, then you probably need to join the vendor companies supporting the O&G industries. Sadly, the vendor companies in M'sia are usually agents for foreign companies, and engineers serving them are usually support/maintenance engineers, not design engineers. I can count with my fingers how many 'original' M'sian O&G product companies that design and make their own products.
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hoho..i think i get it now..
mechanical engineering hav wider chance to get into ong companies..
i think i would choose downstream...downstream also need offshore de ar?..
i heard some of my frens say..working offshore is something like work for 15days offshore,then holiday 15days?..is it like this?..
correct me if i'm wrong...
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QUOTE(heartbreakk @ Dec 22 2007, 11:52 AM)
hoho..i think i get it now..
mechanical engineering hav wider chance to get into ong companies..
i think i would choose downstream...downstream also need offshore de ar?..
i heard some of my frens say..working offshore is something like work for 15days offshore,then holiday 15days?..is it like this?..
correct me if i'm wrong...
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downstream where got offshore, you will expected to work at terminals or processing plant.
sort of kerja kilang....mostly in shift also but not as ling as shift offshore.
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QUOTE(Myclamyra @ Dec 22 2007, 10:45 AM)
Apologies, my bad... I'm in upstream, and I can't remember any chem science degree holders here. We do have chemists, but those are usually diploma holders only. Maybe someone in downstream could advise.

As for the comment on mech eng, yes, in general they have about the right foundation subjects to work in O&G and are very flexible. In operations, they can fit into facilities/production eng, material/corrosion control eng, rotating equipment eng... if in projects, they can be structural eng, piping eng, and also rotating equipment eng... a little bit of training would allow them to go into reservoir management since they already have fluid dyn.

Remember, the degree is more of a key to get in. Once you're in, it's the people management and troubleshooting skills that will bring you further.

Important point by iDk is that most of the engineers hired in multinationals do not 'invent' things, rather 'engineer' things to keep things under control and running, usually by troubleshooting an existing set of products/equipment. When we 'design' a facility, it actually means sizing the equipment needed to run the facility safely and buy componenets from the manufacturers, kinda like Williams building their formula 1 car. If you want to make new products that serve O&G, then you probably need to join the vendor companies supporting the O&G industries. Sadly, the vendor companies in M'sia are usually agents for foreign companies, and engineers serving them are usually support/maintenance engineers, not design engineers. I can count with my fingers how many 'original' M'sian O&G product companies that design and make their own products.
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Design something out usually is not malaysian engineer job, i believe we dont really have the qualification to do that. Most of the time, the design or R&D parts are carried out by foreign engineer from the other side of the world. But sometimes, i still find out that their designs are not actually perfect, in deed got quite a lot need to be improve. That's why we are need to give them back the feedback of their equipment and they will send back an improved one. But there is also sometimes they just ignore your complain and we need to modify things ourself. sweat.gif
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I'm a mechanical eng in final sem yet I dunno where I should start looking for jobs in the O&G industry, any suggestion from all the sifu here? I've try rigzone, but job in Malaysia only got 22 posting... sigh
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QUOTE(iDk @ Dec 23 2007, 01:05 AM)
Design something out usually is not malaysian engineer job, i believe we dont really have the qualification to do that. Most of the time, the design or R&D parts are carried out by foreign engineer from the other side of the world. But sometimes, i still find out that their designs are not actually perfect, in deed got quite a lot need to be improve. That's why we are need to give them back the feedback of their equipment and they will send back an improved one. But there is also sometimes they just ignore your complain and we need to modify things ourself.  sweat.gif
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Yep, very true. Nearly 95% of componenets (valves, pressure relief valves, controllers, compressors, turbine engines, even pipes and fittings!) used in M'sia's O&G are not from M'sia. Lots of my O&G vendor friends are in the sad mode you just mentioned... ignored service engineers sad.gif.

However, M'sia can already design out production facilities i.e. using off-the-market components, assemble them together in M'sia to make production facilities. In fact, the known design houses in M'sia like MMC, Ranhill, Technip, Bestwide, Kvaerner, and (M'sia's own) RNZ, not only design M'sian production facilities, but also international ones too.

HINT: Those whom want to be part of O&G design consultants, do a google search of the above companies and find out if they're hiring. Warning, if I become your client, I will show no quarters!!!

The lack of true M'sian O&G products is troubling. I mean, as a comparison (maybe a bad one), Proton use be an OEM for Mitsubishi. Some 20 year later it can already design out and manufacture its own cars. On the other hand, since the Petroleum Act (around 1970s I think), we can't even produce our own bloody pipes! If only Perwaja survived....
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QUOTE(Myclamyra @ Dec 24 2007, 05:17 PM)
Yep, very true. Nearly 95% of componenets (valves, pressure relief valves, controllers, compressors, turbine engines, even pipes and fittings!) used in M'sia's O&G are not from M'sia. Lots of my O&G vendor friends are in the sad mode you just mentioned... ignored service engineers .

However, M'sia can already design out production facilities i.e. using off-the-market components, assemble them together in M'sia to make production facilities. In fact, the known design houses in M'sia like MMC, Ranhill, Technip, Bestwide, Kvaerner, and (M'sia's own) RNZ, not only design M'sian production facilities, but also international ones too.

HINT: Those whom want to be part of O&G design consultants, do a google search of the above companies and find out if they're hiring. Warning, if I become your client, I will show no quarters!!!

The lack of true M'sian O&G products is troubling. I mean, as a comparison (maybe a  bad one), Proton use be an OEM for Mitsubishi. Some 20 year later it can already design out and manufacture its own cars. On the other hand, since the Petroleum Act (around 1970s I think), we can't even produce our own bloody pipes! If only Perwaja survived....
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i can't agree more with you.. It's sad to see that even though the industry is booming in our country, not all of the benefit can be reap by Malaysian company in terms of product offered etc... mostly Malaysians company will be a representative for overseas Vendor trying to get into malaysian market with their products.. we still have a long way to go.. but we'll get there.. flex.gif

by the way, MMC is also malaysia's own company..
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But i believe Malaysian is already able to do their own design and productions as there are a lot of talented Malaysian out there. The problem is that, they most properly will not stay at Malaysia and those big company have already put a hand on them. So the money is still the issue here at the end tongue.gif

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I'm a mechanical eng in final sem yet I dunno where I should start looking for jobs in the O&G industry, any suggestion from all the sifu here? I've try rigzone, but job in Malaysia only got 22 posting... sigh
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1st try oil co like shell, chevron, talisman, aramco, petronas, murphy, hess, exxon etc.
if no luck u still can try oil services co like schlumberger, cggveritas, halliburton, fugro, geoservices, pgs, paradigm etc.
if still no luck can try local small2 co like crest, misc etc.
if u wanna fast development of ur career starts with small co then jump 2 big2 wan after 3-5 years. coz it's kinda hard 2 throttle ur way in big co during ur early career...
1 more thing, make sure u got 3 pointer & above & master english communication skills. ur luck is out there bro...
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QUOTE(mancy @ Dec 24 2007, 10:58 PM)
1st try oil co like shell, chevron, talisman, aramco, petronas, murphy, hess, exxon etc.
if no luck u still can try oil services co like schlumberger, cggveritas, halliburton, fugro, geoservices, pgs, paradigm etc.
if still no luck can try local small2 co like crest, misc etc.
if u wanna fast development of ur career starts with small co then jump 2 big2 wan after 3-5 years. coz it's kinda hard 2 throttle ur way in big co during ur early career...
1 more thing, make sure u got 3 pointer & above & master english communication skills. ur luck is out there bro...
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I'm PETRONAS scholar.just finish my study,currently waiting for my final exam result.people at KLCC already contact me.starting salary for engineer is RM2510.If work as Petroleum@Drilling ENgineer RM3500.Allowance is RM30/day at platform.This is consider very low compare to Service Company(Like SCOMI,SCHLUMBERGER,OPTIMAL) coz i heard they earn RM300/day for allowance.But PETRONAS is very good since it is the CLient.not much work to do and you can enjoy the salary that u earn.what point if your salary RM6000/m if u have to work hard since morning till night and no time to spend money that u earn.both have pros and cos i think.. nod.gif
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farizuan, there isn't free lunch. Not all people get what they want in PCSB.
U don't know earn RM6k in SLB, fresh grad will be at least USD 4k.

Can't we say Ranhill Worleyparsons a local company too? At least it fulfill the requirement to be awarded contract from Petronas.
Btw, RWP is hiring Pipeline Engineer for the time being.
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if i am not mistaken.. it depends actually.. if you are stationed at Malaysia.. they will pay you in our currency.. but still the are pay high la.. around 6k like that.. if you got overseas base.. there is where you will be paid in USD.. like you said at least 4k..
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I'm PETRONAS scholar.just finish my study,currently waiting for my final exam result.people at KLCC already contact me.starting salary for engineer is RM2510.If work as Petroleum@Drilling ENgineer RM3500.Allowance is RM30/day at platform.This is consider very low compare to Service Company(Like SCOMI,SCHLUMBERGER,OPTIMAL) coz i heard they earn RM300/day for allowance.But PETRONAS is very good since it is the CLient.not much work to do and you can enjoy the salary that u earn.what point if your salary RM6000/m if u have to work hard since morning till night and no time to spend money that u earn.both have pros and cos i think.. nod.gif
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ask yourself, where in this world you get high pay and yet doing easy work and go back early?
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ask yourself, where in this world you get high pay and yet doing easy work and go back early?
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As my senior said,at PETRONAS there will be not much stress compare with when u work with service company.If u work at KLCC u even can punch in at 8 am and return home at 6pm. whistling.gif but for sure it will not benifitial to your own future..


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Dec 25 2007, 01:42 PM)
farizuan, there isn't free lunch. Not all people get what they want in PCSB.
U don't know earn RM6k in SLB, fresh grad will be at least USD 4k.

Can't we say Ranhill Worleyparsons a local company too? At least it fulfill the requirement to be awarded contract from Petronas.
Btw, RWP is hiring Pipeline Engineer for the time being.
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The 6000 figure i just simply put only.yes one of my fren already work with SLB.USD4900 for fresh grad and u will be travelling a lot.maybe go to Argentina.haha.

BTW allenultra,u come from UTP "toronto" is it..what batch?haha.just finish my study there.now no kerja liao cry.gif

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As my senior said,at PETRONAS there will be not much stress compare with when u work with service company.If u work at KLCC u even can punch in at 8 am and return home at 6pm.  whistling.gif  but for sure it will not benifitial to your own future..
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That's why Petronas is not growing as fast as the other o&g company, that's the place for ppl to grow old and fat until retired. I hope you get what i mean. 8~6pm already very late? How about 8am~1am continuosly for a week or 2?
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That's why Petronas is not growing as fast as the other o&g company, that's the place for ppl to grow old and fat until retired. I hope you get what i mean. 8~6pm already very late? How about 8am~1am continuosly for a week or 2?
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Off-topic, It is also the same syndrome which happen in our government.
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lol..wad job can get usd 4900??
wad engineer is tat?..i like to travel,a lot..hahah..
i tot petronas is very good already..mana tahu got better company....
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QUOTE(iDk @ Dec 25 2007, 06:31 PM)
That's why Petronas is not growing as fast as the other o&g company, that's the place for ppl to grow old and fat until retired. I hope you get what i mean. 8~6pm already very late? How about 8am~1am continuosly for a week or 2?
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well if you have to work long hours until 1 am... is that showing that you are productive or efficient ?
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lol..wad job can get usd 4900??
wad engineer is tat?..i like to travel,a lot..hahah..
i tot petronas is very good already..mana tahu got better company....
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It is SLB.u can earn USD 4900 by working as petroleum engineer / drilling engineer..
yeah try to apply at SLB lorr u will be traveling and working a lot until u forget already your mom's face and way ab ck to your hometown sweat.gif
good in terms of wat?if productivity and experience gain during work PETRONAS is not the best place to go.but PETRONAS is very stable company (economic term)and u can work there without any worries that the company will bancrupt or stop any workers..is up to u lorr brows.gif
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Without bashing too much, I find that there are parts in PETRONAS that are working professionally and diligently, ESPECIALLY those in the Petroleum Management Unit. I'm not sure if it's actually implemented, but they do claim to have a policy of kicking their lowest 5% performer during appraisal i.e. if this year's appraisal shows that the guy is in the bottom most 5% among his peers, then next year, he better not be on the list again, otherwise he's out of the company. Needless to say, they wouldn't be on the 20 most profitable company in the world, if their workforce is full of slops, especially when they don't have much oil to begin with.

Do we have to work beyond our normal work hours? Yes, sometimes. But the choice has to be rational, I mean, nobody would like to 'retire' before their retirement age smile.gif. I personally do not drive my subordinates/vendors/contractors to work 60-80 hours per week as experience has shown that overworking = more errors, get sick or become less productive during normal hours = waste more time & money, even if they can be paid on unit rate.

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It is SLB.u can earn USD 4900 by working as petroleum engineer / drilling engineer..
yeah try to apply at SLB lorr u will be traveling and working a lot until u forget already your mom's face and way ab ck to your hometown  sweat.gif
good in terms of wat?if productivity and experience gain during work PETRONAS is not the best place to go.but PETRONAS is very stable company (economic term)and u can work there without any worries that the company will bancrupt or stop any workers..is up to u lorr  brows.gif
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ya... of course easy life, but if one day when you leave that company, you might have the difficulties to adapt yourself outside petronas environment... i see most of the young staffs just waste their time only... even thou got the opportunities, if i can choose from beginning again, i would like to join service company first before go in pcsb..
Now you fell proud because you can grab the chance to work in a big company with good benefit before you graduated, but one day you will envy ppl outside who earn big figure...

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Without bashing too much, I find that there are parts in PETRONAS that are working professionally and diligently, ESPECIALLY those in the Petroleum Management Unit. I'm not sure if it's actually implemented, but they do claim to have a policy of kicking their lowest 5% performer during appraisal i.e. if this year's appraisal shows that the guy is in the bottom most 5% among his peers, then next year, he better not be on the list again, otherwise he's out of the company. Needless to say, they wouldn't be on the 20 most profitable company in the world, if their workforce is full of slops, especially when they don't have much oil to begin with.

Do we have to work beyond our normal work hours? Yes, sometimes. But the choice has to be rational, I mean, nobody would like to 'retire' before their retirement age smile.gif.  I personally do not drive my subordinates/vendors/contractors to work 60-80 hours per week as experience has shown that overworking = more errors, get sick or become less productive during normal hours = waste more time & money, even if they can be paid on unit rate.
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PMU is professional... because they get the most bonus in petronas...
but currently they removed the bell curve already, no more classification who are good and who are weak, everyone can be performer..
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ya... of course easy life, but if one day when you leave that company, you might have the difficulties to adapt yourself outside petronas environment... i see most of the young staffs just waste their time only... even thou got the opportunities, if i can choose from beginning again, i would like to join service company first before go in pcsb..
Now you fell proud because you can grab the chance to work in a big company with good benefit before you graduated, but one day you will envy ppl outside who earn big figure...
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I reject chance to be interviewed by SLB last month becoz i already bonded with PETRONAS.i must work for 10 years with them lorr..otherwise i have to pay them back RM120,000 if i breach the contract.damnn.i love to work with service company but the situation is not allow me to do so.now im wasting my time at home before my final exam result will be announced,only after that i can report my duty at PETRONAS.after report duty,again i have to wait for them to find suitable position relating with my abaility.. rclxub.gif
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seriously farizuan, u should have taken the chance to be interviewed by SLB.
It worth to break the bond if you being offered a lucrative job there.

I'm glad that I'm not petronas scholar.


Its all about how well u willing to take the challenge/risk being put in front of you.
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I reject chance to be interviewed by SLB last month becoz i already bonded with PETRONAS.i must work for 10 years with them lorr..otherwise i have to pay them back RM120,000 if i breach the contract.damnn.i love to work with service company but the situation is not allow me to do so.now im wasting my time at home before my final exam result will be announced,only after that i can report my duty at PETRONAS.after report duty,again i have to wait for them to find suitable position relating with my abaility.. rclxub.gif
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im not a scholar.... i'll cabut after get enough experience...

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seriously farizuan, u should have taken the chance to be interviewed by SLB.
It worth to break the bond if you being offered a lucrative job there.

I'm glad that I'm not petronas scholar.
Its all about how well u willing to take the challenge/risk being put in front of you.
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i don't think a company would like to pay >100k for a fresh grad, unless he/she is superb...
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10 yrs....  ohmy.gif
im not a scholar.... i'll cabut after get enough experience...
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forrest are u working with PETRONAS now?haha.dont cabut la..PETRONAS wont accept u anymore once u cabut.btw someone says Qatar Oil will be looking for staff beginning next year(open new plant at Saudi).i dont how truth is the rumuors.but my frens who said that went to Dubai for a conference early this months,and the rumuors spread by PETRONAS staff..now hopefully PETRONAS can revices their salary.. brows.gif maybe can give 5000 at least.hahaha.they also want to protect their workers from being stolen by Qatar Oil.lawan jangan tak lawan

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i don't think a company would like to pay >100k for a fresh grad, unless he/she is superb...
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well let see, if u really get USD4k as starting pay.
U get personal loan from bank to pay back the Petronas convertible loan, u will be clear off the debt within one or 2 years.

Then, all the high pay salary you get will be yours.

While if you stay at Petronas, u may not able to get such offer and will work there for a total of 10 years.
Not all engineers get good offers working with Petronas.

EE grad been threw into marketing, IT/IS into human resources.
Not all able to get into PCSB.

So it does worth a try if the chance appeared.


I don't think if Petronas willing to revise their salary, their engineers will stay.
There was once in MLNG, a whole line gone in one day. All moved to middle east.
Petronas lost RM3 million/day because of that production line closed.
Offer from middle east just too good sometime.
A senior pipeline engineer just left the company and flying to dubai this weekend. cool.gif
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hoho..i think i get it now..
mechanical engineering hav wider chance to get into ong companies..
i think i would choose downstream...downstream also need offshore de ar?..
i heard some of my frens say..working offshore is something like work for 15days offshore,then holiday 15days?..is it like this?..
correct me if i'm wrong...
Upstream is where the money and fun is, my friend. Work hard for 15 days, then play hard for 15 days lah!

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I'm PETRONAS scholar.just finish my study,currently waiting for my final exam result.people at KLCC already contact me.starting salary for engineer is RM2510.If work as Petroleum@Drilling ENgineer RM3500.Allowance is RM30/day at platform.This is consider very low compare to Service Company(Like SCOMI,SCHLUMBERGER,OPTIMAL) coz i heard they earn RM300/day for allowance.
Hrm? So eager to disclose the salary level for the engineers in PETRONAS? sweat.gif
Btw, the offshore hardship allowance is not RM30/day, it is more than that. And all engineers are actually earning the same starting salary, no matter the discipline. Of course, there are special allowances and adjustments...

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But PETRONAS is very good since it is the CLient.not much work to do and you can enjoy the salary that u earn.what point if your salary RM6000/m if u have to work hard since morning till night and no time to spend money that u earn.both have pros and cos i think..
Not really. If you are looking for technical career progression, consultants/contractors/service providers provide better opportunities. In client companies, you'll mostly be bogged down by management/supervising tasks UNLESS if you make the extra effort to directly do the work yourself. Of course as a client, you just need to review and approve procedures/drawings/specs/datasheets with occasional site visit, but how to gain the knowledge and experience to be 'qualified' to review and approve them? That's where the hardworking and lazy types are sorted out..

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Without bashing too much, I find that there are parts in PETRONAS that are working professionally and diligently, ESPECIALLY those in the Petroleum Management Unit.
Ah come on now, you don't have go on and praise PMU until like that. I'm beginning to suspect that you're from there. rolleyes.gif
You should spare a thought for the PCSB guys who slog it out at fabrication yards, pet. engineers who sit at their PC reading the reservoir data in the weekends, offshore guys who spent Hari Raya out in the open seas. I haven't counted the downstream guys yet. Everyone also deserves praise what.

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ya... of course easy life, but if one day when you leave that company, you might have the difficulties to adapt yourself outside petronas environment... i see most of the young staffs just waste their time only... even thou got the opportunities, if i can choose from beginning again, i would like to join service company first before go in pcsb..
Now you fell proud because you can grab the chance to work in a big company with good benefit before you graduated, but one day you will envy ppl outside who earn big figure...
Agreed. Best that you move on early, unless if you intend to stay and move upwards in the company.

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forrest are u working with PETRONAS now?haha.dont cabut la..PETRONAS wont accept u anymore once u cabut.
A common scare tactic which I encountered a lot lately. True, you will probably not be able to work with PETRONAS again once you resign, but look: If you've made up your mind to leave, why think about going back? The world is big, and there are more things out there than in PETRONAS. smile.gif

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One reason Petronas is filthy rich is because all oil/gas found on Malaysian soil/waters belong to them. This means that foreign oil companies who discover oil here need to pay Petronas a certain amount of the profits gathered from these oil fields. True ?
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True and not true.

True = all oil/gas in malaysian soil belongs to Malaysia, and PETRONAS (specifically PMU) is the guardian of the natural resources. Thus it is required that for every barrel of oil that foreign oil companies take from us, they have to pay us back a certain amount. And let's not forget that PETRONAS is the piggybank of Malaysian government. To be honest, what happens to the money once it reaches the government's hands is another matter, but let's leave it at that.

Not true = A huge portion of PETRONAS revenue comes from overseas, not just from within Malaysia. So Malaysian oil/gas alone does not make PETRONAS rich.
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One reason Petronas is filthy rich is because all oil/gas found on Malaysian soil/waters belong to them. This means that foreign oil companies who discover oil here need to pay Petronas a certain amount of the profits gathered from these oil fields. True ?
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all foreign oil companies have to surrender 70% of all oil and gas found in malaysia soil/water to Petronas. Then, Petronas sell our good quality crude oil to other countries and buy lower grade crude oil from middle east for domestic use. If international crude price is at USD 100 per barrel then malaysia's crude oil can sell more than that because of lower sulfur.

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Can any one brief me on what position a Mechanical Engineering graduate can apply for within the services company. Most of the services company that I found need only ppl with geo physic background. Thanks
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Can any one brief me on what position a Mechanical Engineering graduate can apply for within the services company. Most of the services company that I found need only ppl with geo physic background. Thanks
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Weird. What kind of services company were you browsing through? If you're talking about geoservices and seismic surveying, then of course la they won't use Mech. Engineering grads.

Mech grads are sometimes found in (and not limited to):
Drilling/Directional Drilling
Well Testing/Control
MWD/LWD
Wireline
Commissioning
Operations
Construction
Installation

You need to look harder. Hint: if the requirements say Petro. Engineering and equivalent, then you may try your luck.

Worked for me. smile.gif
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so.... you are at which one? mwd or lwd tongue.gif
Recently i just found out my secondary school mate now working for Halliburton in their LWD team, currently at china now. He told me that about 2 years back when i still dont know what is that company about.

I'm curious to know that MWD engineer is from mech. engineering background or some other engineering field? Do they need to attend certain course or must have certain certificate to be able to do that job?
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Dec 27 2007, 02:53 PM)
Upstream is where the money and fun is, my friend. Work hard for 15 days, then play hard for 15 days lah!
Hrm? So eager to disclose the salary level for the engineers in PETRONAS?  sweat.gif
Btw, the offshore hardship allowance is not RM30/day, it is more than that. And all engineers are actually earning the same starting salary, no matter the discipline. Of course, there are special allowances and adjustments...
Not really. If you are looking for technical career progression, consultants/contractors/service providers provide better opportunities. In client companies, you'll mostly be bogged down by management/supervising tasks UNLESS if you make the extra effort to directly do the work yourself. Of course as a client, you just need to review and approve procedures/drawings/specs/datasheets with occasional site visit, but how to gain the knowledge and experience to be 'qualified' to review and approve them? That's where the hardworking and lazy types are sorted out..
Ah come on now, you don't have go on and praise PMU until like that. I'm beginning to suspect that you're from there. rolleyes.gif
You should spare a thought for the PCSB guys who slog it out at fabrication yards, pet. engineers who sit at their PC reading the reservoir data in the weekends, offshore guys who spent Hari Raya out in the open seas. I haven't counted the downstream guys yet. Everyone also deserves praise what.
Agreed. Best that you move on early, unless if you intend to stay and move upwards in the company.
A common scare tactic which I encountered a lot lately. True, you will probably not be able to work with PETRONAS again once you resign, but look: If you've made up your mind to leave, why think about going back? The world is big, and there are more things out there than in PETRONAS. smile.gif
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so.... you are at which one? mwd or lwd tongue.gif
Recently i just found out my secondary school mate now working for Halliburton in their LWD team, currently at china now. He told me that about 2 years back when i still dont know what is that company about.

I'm curious to know that MWD engineer is from mech. engineering background or some other engineering field? Do they need to attend certain course or must have certain certificate to be able to do that job?
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Well, if it's Halliburton, you've missed the boat. They were recruiting a month or two ago, for MWD/LWD Field Engineers. Requirements include a degree in Geophysics or Petro Engineering and equivalent. (Hint, hint) smile.gif And Baker Hughes was recruiting too, on the same day in the same Classifieds.

I'm not too sure abut the special skills etc., but training is usually provided.

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Ezra looks like u r already experience in this field shakehead.gif
And your point is?

I'm not yet at the level where I can call myself experienced, so I'm just sharing what I know. What I can tell lah, of course.

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I'm not yet at the level where I can call myself experienced, so I'm just sharing what I know. What I can tell lah, of course.
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Its a great dude!!..fresh grad like me always need experience people like u to guide me in this career..thanks for help and information notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Dec 28 2007, 02:32 PM)
Weird. What kind of services company were you browsing through? If you're talking about geoservices and seismic surveying, then of course la they won't use Mech. Engineering grads.

Mech grads are sometimes found in (and not limited to):
Drilling/Directional Drilling
Well Testing/Control
MWD/LWD
Wireline
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Construction
Installation

You need to look harder. Hint: if the requirements say Petro. Engineering and equivalent, then you may try your luck.

Worked for me. smile.gif
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Hehe, thanks for the info dude, cuz most of the service company i found doing seismic stuff, no idea where to find those u listed which is operate in malaysia. hehe thanks again
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Dec 29 2007, 06:23 PM)
Well, if it's Halliburton, you've missed the boat. They were recruiting a month or two ago, for MWD/LWD Field Engineers. Requirements include a degree in Geophysics or Petro Engineering and equivalent. (Hint, hint) smile.gif And Baker Hughes was recruiting too, on the same day in the same Classifieds.

I'm not too sure abut the special skills etc., but training is usually provided.

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Ezra looks like u r already experience in this field shakehead.gif
And your point is?

I'm not yet at the level where I can call myself experienced, so I'm just sharing what I know. What I can tell lah, of course.
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thanks brother for telling me about the recruiting. Well, when come to these international company, i always got the feeling that i cannot get it. It is not i dont want to try, because most of the time even before call for interview, i will be filter out just because of my qualification (lower pointer here). I prefer to be realistic, down to earth and start from somewhere there is possible for me to join in, like a service company, after a certain amount of experience, then only i think of these big company. Currently applying for a pipeline service company, now under their medical examination, for me which is a very tight examination, urine drug test, ecg stuffs like that.
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I reject chance to be interviewed by SLB last month becoz i already bonded with PETRONAS.i must work for 10 years with them lorr..otherwise i have to pay them back RM120,000 if i breach the contract.damnn.i love to work with service company but the situation is not allow me to do so.now im wasting my time at home before my final exam result will be announced,only after that i can report my duty at PETRONAS.after report duty,again i have to wait for them to find suitable position relating with my abaility.. rclxub.gif
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with that thought you SHOULD HAVE NOT take the scholar . Give to opportunity to others..
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prolly u will do what most ppl do when bonded .... work a few years then break contract with them ......

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May i know are they (Halliburton and Baker Hughes) are looking for experience people or freshie with 1-2 years of experience?

what i mean of experience people is people with 8-15 years of experience.
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Hey,

Sounds like everyone here is offshore based. Anyone here is on rotation abroad but working onshore?

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Hi there,

Ex-UTP and PETRONAS scholar reporting here rclxm9.gif and currently working in PCSB as commissioning engineer. It seems like there has been some misleading infomation and circulation about client company, especially PCSB. To put in simple, working in PCSB and other client company is more challenging than what rumours said.

Our work evolve as how the work progress. Being as a client representative, we deal with a lot of people, from skill workers to professional engineer and manager level. Document review is only part of the work. PETRONAS staffs are very marketable in O&G not without any reason. biggrin.gif



QUOTE(WildChai @ Dec 30 2007, 05:05 PM)
Hey,

Sounds like everyone here is offshore based. Anyone here is on rotation abroad but working onshore?
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What do you mean by rotation aboard and working onshore? Meaning working onshore and offshore at the same time?
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many ppl tell me..geologist/geophysics are very demanded in the market than others..is it true?...
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Hi there,

Ex-UTP and PETRONAS scholar reporting here  rclxm9.gif  and currently working in PCSB as commissioning engineer. It seems like there has been some misleading infomation and circulation about client company, especially PCSB. To put in simple, working in PCSB and other client company is more challenging than what rumours said.

Our work evolve as how the work progress. Being as a client representative, we deal with a lot of people, from skill workers to professional engineer and manager level. Document review is only part of the work. PETRONAS staffs are very marketable in O&G not without any reason.  biggrin.gif
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Haha..seems like more ex-UTP clan here biggrin.gif Good job Aurora..share wateva u know about PCSB.. notworthy.gif
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hola...! another petronas scholar here... currently doing Petro Eng..

QUOTE(heartbreakk @ Dec 31 2007, 12:28 AM)
many ppl tell me..geologist/geophysics are very demanded in the market than others..is it true?...
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Dec 30 2007, 11:07 PM)

What do you mean by rotation aboard and working onshore? Meaning working onshore and offshore at the same time?
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I am working onshore but on a 6 On, 5 Off rotation....6 weeks of work, 5 weeks of rest at home.
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hello~ everyone... I just got to know this forum here... feeling so great with so many professionals in the forum...

By the way, I am very keen to enter Schlumberger... I have upload my resume on their website 2 weeks ago... but it seems no respond at all....

Can anyone tell me is the recruitment time over for schlumberger...?

I have mechanical engineering background from LJMU (previously from TARC) and currently working as a sales and marketing engineerng for semicon industry for exactly 1 year..... now looking for a chance to enter oil n gas industry hopefully big blue....

Any advise, the oil n gas brotherhood out there....?


Added on December 31, 2007, 1:02 pmActually, I am interested in field engineer for SLB.... and my final career prospect will be still sales and marketing.... that's wat i saw on the SLB website...

By the can someone tell me exactly what field engineer will be handling...?

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I am working onshore but on a 6 On, 5 Off rotation....6 weeks of work, 5 weeks of rest at home.
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Any idea, how we can apply for job like yours ?
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Any idea, how we can apply for job like yours ?
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Or you have a friend that works in that particular company. And depends on which department.

But ya gotta keep yur fingers crossed. I was blessed to get an international contract.
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Hey wildchai..are working wif petronas or service company?currrently at oversea rite..good2 rclxms.gif
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well wildchai ,

maybe can drop by when i'm in Turks
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Hey wildchai..are working wif petronas or service company?currrently at oversea rite..good2  rclxms.gif
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well wildchai ,

maybe can drop by when i'm in Turks
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Dec 28 2007, 02:32 PM)
Weird. What kind of services company were you browsing through? If you're talking about geoservices and seismic surveying, then of course la they won't use Mech. Engineering grads.



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Not entirely true about seismic companies not recruiting mech engineer grads. I am one and currently working with Western Geco (one of the major players in seismic industry). In fact most of the ppl in our seismic crew come from mech and electrical eng backgrounds. The geology/geophysics majors on the other hand are usually hired as data processors and they work onshore.


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Checking in guys, KS Lee, LWD field service engineer, Qatar district... Wouldn't mind getting some industrial networking and connections here!!!


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QUOTE(dylansiauw @ Dec 31 2007, 05:52 AM)
hello~ everyone... I just got to know this forum here... feeling so great with so many professionals in the forum...

By the way, I am very keen to enter Schlumberger... I have upload my resume on their website 2 weeks ago... but it seems no respond at all....

Can anyone tell me is the recruitment time over for schlumberger...?

I have mechanical engineering background from LJMU (previously from TARC) and currently working as a sales and marketing engineerng for semicon industry for exactly 1 year..... now looking for a chance to enter oil n gas industry hopefully big blue....

Any advise, the oil n gas brotherhood out there....?


Added on December 31, 2007, 1:02 pmActually, I am interested in field engineer for SLB.... and my final career prospect will be still sales and marketing.... that's wat i saw on the SLB website...

By the can someone tell me exactly what field engineer will be handling...?
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Field Engineer, depends on the service being provided by the company you're representing. It's quite a long deal of process to get grease out from the ground, upstream all the way downstream involves many activies. Speaking from my own experience, LWD or wireline field service engineers perform data acquisition for formation evaluation information. Don't be too narrow by picking SLB, there are others around: BHI, Haliburton, Weatherford, Pathfinder etc. I am from ME background as well, but the key to get in is really partially your luck, and whole lot of persistence.


Added on January 2, 2008, 2:17 am
QUOTE(rooonie @ Dec 30 2007, 08:48 AM)
May i know are they (Halliburton and Baker Hughes) are looking for experience people or freshie with 1-2 years of experience?

what i mean of experience people is people with 8-15 years of experience.
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I believe they take both experienced and freshie, but they would be examining their contract in that particular country. I mean, contract with oil companies since their operation revolves around that. If the contact starts late, they can still afford to hire a freshie and train him up - his wage would cost less. Otherwise if contract starts immediately, they would got no choice but to hire an experienced guy. A lot of country/region operations and hiring revolve around activity level and contract.


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QUOTE(gatevalve @ Dec 1 2007, 02:41 AM)
nope, basically rig workers like OIM,Toolpusher,Driller, Marine Engineers etc. i have friend (age about 29) and his getting more than usd 6k/month(working as assistant driller).field engineer...maybe with good company like schlumberger,halliburton or baker.again i have friend who works as mud engineer in malaysia offshore,age about 26) and getting rm 15k/month.
i enjoy doing 4 weeks swing because i really have good time off with my family....with fully paid salary.  thumbup.gif
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Gatevalve,

You sure hit me with 'another day, another dollar'... but hey, isn't it time we tell those who are eager to join the field about FTD (f**king the dog)??? Can't beat spending days watching telly 24/7 waiting for them to fix the hole, e-z money...

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Hey KSLee,
Another MENA and LWD buddy. I'm kinda based in North Africa region. Now doing a few rotations at Kazakhstan.

How long you've been with LWD? which company?
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Thanks K.S Lee, I got what you mean. I will try to apply for others company as well. It just that from what I saw from SLB website, the career prospect for a field engineer is
"field engineer --> senior engineer --> general field engineer --> technical / sales&marketing / personnel / operation mgt"

What I really wanna achieve in the end will be sales and marketing.

'sigh'.... hopefully everything will be fine.....
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i heard that those working in baker hughes are well paid right? can anybody tell me, wat others oil&gas company besides shell, halliburton, slb, petronas and crest? im an undergraduate, & going to send off my resume cause graduation soon.....
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QUOTE(WildChai @ Jan 2 2008, 04:10 AM)
Hey KSLee,
Another MENA and LWD buddy. I'm kinda based in North Africa region. Now doing a few rotations at Kazakhstan.

How long you've been with LWD? which company?
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This forum posting is soon turning into oil field thrash get-together place for people like us, LOL! North Africa region is nice, I mean the weather but my last encounter with Egypt was pretty bad, especially their traffic chaos in Cairo is just simply traumatic! Haven't been to the rest, i.e. Algeria, Libya et al.

I am LWD, with Qatar's Baker Hughes INTEQ. Was a good deal for me to get their contract instead of one offered in Malaysia, because with their contract, I pay no tax to Qatar and I am not liable to pay any tax to Malaysia too!

How about you, which company you're representing? I heard the bonus coefficient is pretty good in Kazahkstan, good for you (laughing all the way to the bank)...


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QUOTE(dylansiauw @ Jan 2 2008, 04:21 AM)
Thanks K.S Lee, I got what you mean. I will try to apply for others company as well. It just that from what I saw from SLB website, the career prospect for a field engineer is 
"field engineer --> senior engineer --> general field engineer --> technical / sales&marketing / personnel / operation mgt"

What I really wanna achieve in the end will be sales and marketing.

'sigh'.... hopefully everything will be fine.....
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It's good to see that you have already set your goals. But in reality, do get prepared that one might have to go along with the flow and whatever that get on your way. Sales & Marketing for oil service companies like HAL, SLB and BHI usually all have field experience, and hence they really know what they are talking about when they are giving sales pitch to the client. Not to worry too much on classes and qualification for sales and marketing for the time being, in due time when you get the post, they will provide all necessary training. However, I cannot stress enough on business networking when you're in the field. This is because, sooner or later, those guys that you know, especially those representing Big Oil - you'll meet them again in office. Only this time around, you'll be begging them for a contract. Then there's all that glamour of securing multi-million dollar contracts for your company, and getting a fat bonus out of it.


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QUOTE(christine85 @ Jan 2 2008, 08:57 AM)
i heard that those working in baker hughes are well paid right? can anybody tell me, wat others oil&gas company besides shell, halliburton, slb, petronas and crest? im an undergraduate, & going to  send off my resume cause graduation soon.....
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Yeah, the pay is good. I am from Baker Hughes INTEQ. I hope I do not offend anybody here, but from answers I get by asking around, those who come from BHI to SLB, they want better pay. Those on the reverse, they want better lives! Hahaha...

Try Murphy, Talisman, TechNip, Chiyoda... It all depends on which segment you want in, downstream, midstream or upstream. Anyway, wish you luck...

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QUOTE(kslee79 @ Jan 2 2008, 04:21 PM)
This forum posting is soon turning into oil field thrash get-together place for people like us, LOL! North Africa region is nice, I mean the weather but my last encounter with Egypt was pretty bad, especially their traffic chaos in Cairo is just simply traumatic! Haven't been to the rest, i.e. Algeria, Libya et al.

I am LWD, with Qatar's Baker Hughes INTEQ. Was a good deal for me to get their contract instead of one offered in Malaysia, because with their contract, I pay no tax to Qatar and I am not liable to pay any tax to Malaysia too!

How about you, which company you're representing? I heard the bonus coefficient is pretty good in Kazahkstan, good for you (laughing all the way to the bank)...


Added on January 2, 2008, 4:27 pm

It's good to see that you have already set your goals. But in reality, do get prepared that one might have to go along with the flow and whatever that get on your way. Sales & Marketing for oil service companies like HAL, SLB and BHI usually all have field experience, and hence they really know what they are talking about when they are giving sales pitch to the client. Not to worry too much on classes and qualification for sales and marketing for the time being, in due time when you get the post, they will provide all necessary training. However, I cannot stress enough on business networking when you're in the field. This is because, sooner or later, those guys that you know, especially those representing Big Oil - you'll meet them again in office. Only this time around, you'll be begging them for a contract. Then there's all that glamour of securing multi-million dollar contracts for your company, and getting a fat bonus out of it.


Added on January 2, 2008, 4:50 pm

Yeah, the pay is good. I am from Baker Hughes INTEQ. I hope I do not offend anybody here, but from answers I get by asking around, those who come from BHI to SLB, they want better pay. Those on the reverse, they want better lives! Hahaha...

Try Murphy, Talisman, TechNip, Chiyoda... It all depends on which segment you want in, downstream, midstream or upstream. Anyway, wish you luck...
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thanks for the info smile.gif and yea... heard about that too.... oil and gas industry is not that easy though the pay is not bad... hmm..... i wish i could get into one of the companies that can let learn as much things as possible... been in shell for internship before for 2and a half months... the environment is good, and the enjoyable but one thing is that u need to speed up and learn as quick as possible on your own.... from what i got from the colleagues there, they said that contract companies like westerngeco for example, u'll be given trainings, and they feed you with as much things as possible... they even advice me to tried out for the contract companies first because in those companies, you'll be able to learn more, instead of working in shell which is more business like and to dig most of the knowledge on your own and then come back to shell with enough knowledge and high salary...... so, kinda blurred.....
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hey kslee, i'm an m/lwd too...just got transferred to qatar too but with slb.

anyway christine85, service companies like hal, slb, bhi are known to offer very intense training but very specific to their own proprietary technologies.

But for operators like shell, petronas, you'll get to see the bigger picture. so there are pros and cons to it. also, you're more likely to have a normal kinda life with operators.

as for dylan, you're kinda right with the career progression with slb which they call the fixed-step engineer program which lasts about 3-4 years. But there are also ways to branch out to other segments. I've personally seen some guys who managed to jump straight to a very technical role within 2 years (i.e. same paygrade as management). It all depends on your luck, determination and attitude.

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Hey Zeusu, good times ahead for the both of us. 2008 and forward, activity in Qatar will be picking up. Many major players are coming in to explore...
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wah more activity means no vacations! you guys have fixed rotations over in inteq?
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engineer then become something like management?...
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You want to be an engineer for life? blink.gif

In oil n gas industry, do all engineers have to go offshore to earn big bucks?
I don't wanna go offshore because I'm a girl (will they let girls go offshore?) and because I don't wanna sunburn.... whistling.gif

Do I have to wait long to be called if shortlisted? I've tried to apply for 1 or 2 companies...
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 2 2008, 06:28 PM)
hey kslee, i'm an m/lwd too...just got transferred to qatar too but with slb.

anyway christine85, service companies like hal, slb, bhi are known to offer very intense training but very specific to their own proprietary technologies.

But for operators like shell, petronas, you'll get to see the bigger picture. so there are pros and cons to it. also, you're more likely to have a normal kinda life with operators.

as for dylan, you're kinda right with the career progression with slb which they call the fixed-step engineer program which lasts about 3-4 years. But there are also ways to branch out to other segments. I've personally seen some guys who managed to jump straight to a very technical role within 2 years (i.e. same paygrade as management). It all depends on your luck, determination and attitude.
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i see.... icon_rolleyes.gif thanks for the comment.... yea... i agree and can see that.... most of the ppl working in shell are more experince and more than 30years old, seeing them picking up their children when time comes etc..... yea.... good for normal life.... rclxm9.gif


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You want to be an engineer for life?  blink.gif

In oil n gas industry, do all engineers have to go offshore to earn big bucks?
I don't wanna go offshore because I'm a girl (will they let girls go offshore?) and because I don't wanna sunburn.... whistling.gif

Do I have to wait long to be called if shortlisted? I've tried to apply for 1 or 2 companies...
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better apply more... my colleagues said that they will be very pleased to send u off to work at offshore if u wish to, but its hard to come back in case u have any emergencies.. and the duration of getting shortlisted is depending on the companies as well.. some companies will reply u in few weeks time, but others may be several months.... that is what i experienced... maybe others have other comments.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kslee79 @ Jan 2 2008, 04:21 PM)
This forum posting is soon turning into oil field thrash get-together place for people like us, LOL! North Africa region is nice, I mean the weather but my last encounter with Egypt was pretty bad, especially their traffic chaos in Cairo is just simply traumatic! Haven't been to the rest, i.e. Algeria, Libya et al.

I am LWD, with Qatar's Baker Hughes INTEQ. Was a good deal for me to get their contract instead of one offered in Malaysia, because with their contract, I pay no tax to Qatar and I am not liable to pay any tax to Malaysia too!

How about you, which company you're representing? I heard the bonus coefficient is pretty good in Kazahkstan, good for you (laughing all the way to the bank)...


Added on January 2, 2008, 4:50 pm

Yeah, the pay is good. I am from Baker Hughes INTEQ. I hope I do not offend anybody here, but from answers I get by asking around, those who come from BHI to SLB, they want better pay. Those on the reverse, they want better lives! Hahaha...

Try Murphy, Talisman, TechNip, Chiyoda... It all depends on which segment you want in, downstream, midstream or upstream. Anyway, wish you luck...
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Yup, finally can get to know other grease monkeys in the country. I was based in Libya for a year or so, smack in the middle of the sahara. Not a pretty place to be, especially in summer. I like this job, we get paid in full without any tax deductions but the only downfall is that we don't have KWSP! lol. But we can make up for it right? tongue.gif

I am with Weatherford Wireline. Yeah, the worse the country's standard of living is, the higher the coefficient is. I am just happy to do my "time" here and looking forward to go back during CNY. rclxms.gif

About SLB, they pay you good if you are on international contracts. I am working with a few ex-SLB peeps from Indonesia and Japan. They were given 5/5 but usually work them to 8/2.


QUOTE(kslee79 @ Jan 2 2008, 11:32 PM)
Hey Zeusu, good times ahead for the both of us. 2008 and forward, activity in Qatar will be picking up. Many major players are coming in to explore...
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Hmmm....Qatar eh. Hope I will get bumped there next. Always fly through or above it. Never seen the place yet.

QUOTE(Julie28 @ Jan 3 2008, 12:56 AM)
You want to be an engineer for life?  blink.gif

In oil n gas industry, do all engineers have to go offshore to earn big bucks?
I don't wanna go offshore because I'm a girl (will they let girls go offshore?) and because I don't wanna sunburn.... whistling.gif

Do I have to wait long to be called if shortlisted? I've tried to apply for 1 or 2 companies...
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Actually being an engineer isn't so bad. I have met peeps that are engineer for the past 25-30yrs. And they like it but it all comes down to yourself. But the money is really really good. Some of them get USD650-1100 per day even there is no work....and they are not offshore. Not consultants.

Ummm...you are afraid of getting sunburn? It's hard to become a field engineer if you are afraid of a little sun. Or hard work, or getting greasy, or not getting sleep for 40hrs.
Before even applying you have to know what you are getting yourself into. Go read up on the job description.

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hey kslee, i'm an m/lwd too...just got transferred to qatar too but with slb.

anyway christine85, service companies like hal, slb, bhi are known to offer very intense training but very specific to their own proprietary technologies.

But for operators like shell, petronas, you'll get to see the bigger picture. so there are pros and cons to it. also, you're more likely to have a normal kinda life with operators.

as for dylan, you're kinda right with the career progression with slb which they call the fixed-step engineer program which lasts about 3-4 years. But there are also ways to branch out to other segments. I've personally seen some guys who managed to jump straight to a very technical role within 2 years (i.e. same paygrade as management). It all depends on your luck, determination and attitude.
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So is there anything I need to prepare if I so fortunate to get a chance for an interview. I mean what will they test me on, eg. thermodynamic, mechanics, fluids and so on....
Coz I have been working on sales and marketing for 1 year and most of calculation and theroy have been forgotten... The only knowledge I still hanging on is how to read drawing...

If you all don't mind, please kindly share tips for the interviews....

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wah, how you multiple quote one huh?

anyway, yeah, girls can definitely go offshore, but most of the time there are very few of them. but then, if a girl's out on the rig, sometimes the whole rig will know your name by the next day =) and everyone will be very happy to help.

depending on locations where you are, you can be airlifted out within an hour or so if there's an emergency that requires it. the oil industry generally puts a strong focus on safety issues, especially big-named ones like BP, Shell, etc.

and WildChai & kslee, you guys don't have to pay tax?....shit, over in SLB, we pay something called EMBO, which is fixed at 19%, so e.g. when I was working in Trinidad that time, the local tax was 25% but I paid 19%, and now in Qatar, local's 0% but I still pay 19%. As for rotations, it's not really fixed. You can ask to leave the field after 3 weeks continuous, but sometimes the situation might not allow it.

and what kinda job is the one in office & pays 650-1100/day?

and being a field engineer is not too bad, it's not like an office job, where you have a proper schedule. There's also some outdoor work where you have to sweat & get dirty but most of the time will be spent with the computers. the satisfying part is when you get to fix problems and the solution worked, it feels really great.

as for dylan, my interview after a group exercise was very simple, just 10mins & kautim. they only wanna see if you can be independent & will be able to tahan the field. Only if they tell you that you'll be recruited into Tech & Field program for SLB, then you'll need to prepare some technical notes. check out http://www.oilcareers.com/content/community/ for the interview tips.
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and what kinda job is the one in office & pays 650-1100/day?

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hello hi, interesting thread. looks like a lot of young msian are working all over the place. which is good.

for the past 1-2 years, salary of msia oil and gas line has gone up a notch nearing expat pays. it is normal for an office based engineer, with 12-15 yrs experience earning close to rm400-600 k a year, of course taxable. not in the middle of deserts, or exotic place like Libya etc; but at the comfort of of working in klcc twin tower.

you just need to be real good in what you do, whether you are geologists of engineers; remember only the specialized skills pay. that skills not so much of running equipment offshore, or run logs etc etc; but a skill that can identify whether the oils (or remaining oils) are. you need to do what people do not know how to do. and by that, i mean modeling --- either geological or fluid simulation modeling.

for those who work with services companies -- stay there for few years to pick up the skills and earn big bucks. then ask for office-based work. you can't stay out there forever. one day a younger stuff will be able to do what you are doing.




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you just need to be real good in what you do, whether you are geologists of engineers; remember only the specialized skills pay. that skills not so much of running equipment offshore, or run logs etc etc; but a skill that can identify whether the oils (or remaining oils) are. you need to do what people do not know how to do. and by that, i mean modeling --- either geological or fluid simulation modeling.

for those who work with services companies -- stay there for few years to pick up the skills and earn big bucks. then ask for office-based work. you can't stay out there forever. one day a younger stuff will be able to do what you are doing.
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wah pool, I'm still pretty new to this field (1 year only), and currently I'm still not too sure about the career direction I should take (management, technical (tool development) or petrophysics?). So do you mind telling us more about your job?

My degree deals mainly with fluid dynamics & also structure modelling.
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as for dylan, my interview after a group exercise was very simple, just 10mins & kautim. they only wanna see if you can be independent & will be able to tahan the field. Only if they tell you that you'll be recruited into Tech & Field program for SLB, then you'll need to prepare some technical notes. check out http://www.oilcareers.com/content/community/ for the interview tips.
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cool... thanx for your precious advise... it really gave much confidence now....
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eer.... a bit blur here... can anyone tell me wat is the difference between Baker INTEQ, baker hughes and baker ATLAS? suddenly pop up so many names when i see the other website....
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 3 2008, 02:47 PM)
wah, how you multiple quote one huh?

anyway, yeah, girls can definitely go offshore, but most of the time there are very few of them. but then, if a girl's out on the rig, sometimes the whole rig will know your name by the next day =) and everyone will be very happy to help.

depending on locations where you are, you can be airlifted out within an hour or so if there's an emergency that requires it. the oil industry generally puts a strong focus on safety issues, especially big-named ones like BP, Shell, etc.

and WildChai & kslee, you guys don't have to pay tax?....shit, over in SLB, we pay something called EMBO, which is fixed at 19%, so e.g. when I was working in Trinidad that time, the local tax was 25% but I paid 19%, and now in Qatar, local's 0% but I still pay 19%. As for rotations, it's not really fixed. You can ask to leave the field after 3 weeks continuous, but sometimes the situation might not allow it.

and what kinda job is the one in office & pays 650-1100/day?

and being a field engineer is not too bad, it's not like an office job, where you have a proper schedule. There's also some outdoor work where you have to sweat & get dirty but most of the time will be spent with the computers. the satisfying part is when you get to fix problems and the solution worked, it feels really great.

as for dylan, my interview after a group exercise was very simple, just 10mins & kautim. they only wanna see if you can be independent & will be able to tahan the field. Only if they tell you that you'll be recruited into Tech & Field program for SLB, then you'll need to prepare some technical notes. check out http://www.oilcareers.com/content/community/ for the interview tips.
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Yeah, I have seen a few female engineers too. Trust me, they are tough.

EMBO? Wow....that is interesting? what is that? SOCSO for that country? The engineers that I worked with was paid USD 800 a day...he's a specialist in some tool. That is their day rate....once they are in country they get paid that amount daily till they leave. And with a very high basic salary too. It is a blessing that we who work abroad don't have to pay taxes.

Ahh...the OilCareer forum...been awhile since I drop by. will put it up.

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Christine, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baker_Hughes

EMBO is a method SLB uses to distribute the taxes they operate all around the world. so wherever you go in the world, you only pay EMBO tax. so that's 19% of your salary + bonuses. In US & Europe, it'll be slightly different.
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Baker Hughes is the mothership... then the people onboard are:

ProductionQuest - intelligent well systems & planning
Petrolite - Refinery chemicals
Drilling Fluids - mud conditioning chemicals
Centrilift - ESP and other devices for assisting reservoir production
INTEQ - Directional drilling, motor, coring and LWD / FE
Baker Atlas - Wireline mostly, perforation and fracturing
Baker Oil Tools - all sorts of tools for solving problems during drilling phase, or well intervention, rework etc.


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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 3 2008, 02:28 PM)
Christine, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baker_Hughes

EMBO is a method SLB uses to distribute the taxes they operate all around the world. so wherever you go in the world, you only pay EMBO tax. so that's 19% of your salary + bonuses. In US & Europe, it'll be slightly different.
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Yup, that's what I heard too. SLB polls together everybody's money to pay for all their employees' tax worldwide. Anyway, Qatar's main incentive is that there's no tax, but again I have no EPF...

Anyway Julie, don't be too bothered with the sun. A bit of shine is healthy, haven't you heard? sweat.gif Occasionally some days, you do have to sweat it out too, which is in fact, another healthy thing to do! All in all, just wish to tell you that being the QUEEN of the rig is a good thing, everyone will be friendly and helpful to you, but there are some places you're off-limit too. KSA (Saudi) is an off-limit place for you to work if you're not married because it is impossible to get a working visa for a non-married female there...


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wah more activity means no vacations! you guys have fixed rotations over in inteq?
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hello hi,  interesting thread. looks like a lot of young msian are working all over the place. which is good.

for the past 1-2 years, salary of msia oil and gas line has gone up a notch nearing expat pays. it is normal for an office based engineer, with 12-15 yrs experience earning close to rm400-600 k a year, of course taxable. not in the middle of deserts, or exotic place like Libya etc; but at the comfort of of working in klcc twin tower.

you just need to be real good in what you do, whether you are geologists of engineers; remember only the specialized skills pay. that skills not so much of running equipment offshore, or run logs etc etc; but a skill that can identify whether the oils (or remaining oils) are. you need to do what people do not know how to do. and by that, i mean modeling --- either geological or fluid simulation modeling.

for those who work with services companies -- stay there for few years to pick up the skills and earn big bucks. then ask for office-based work. you can't stay out there forever. one day a younger stuff will be able to do what you are doing.
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Wah, sure I wish to get to all that high level stuff like reservoir navigation and modelling; but those are really blessed to be honed and sharpened up in such specialized skill niche. Working on it, yup, working on it...

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waaah so lama la not lepaking here oredi....
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Nothing to be shy about... experience or not, we all began sometime, somewhere... Most important is to make a leap into the so-called 'inflation-proof' job sector!!! Guys, all agree?
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wah pool, I'm still pretty new to this field (1 year only), and currently I'm still not too sure about the career direction I should take (management, technical (tool development) or petrophysics?). So do you mind telling us more about your job?

My degree deals mainly with fluid dynamics & also structure modelling.
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Zeusu ... let be honest, i do not think you would know your direction as you are just 1 year into the job market. you have to experience different kind of jobs for you to ascertain yr inclination.

but one thing, to be sure, it is always good (and i highly recommend) to join a major oil company like exxon, shell, murphy and the likes. you will get different perspectives and be able to understand the wholeness in the oil and gas industry, i.e from exploration to drilling and that knowledge will be very essential if you like to be in o&g for a long run.

i must emphasize again, the skills that able to locate oil, quantify the field/well production and lifespan will be the most "sellable" skills and will reward you handsomely. The very existence of oil companies is to find oil and these skills are highly sought .. these are the business drivers and drive all other things. Drilling, Logging, Production Operation etc etc are more like the "do-ers" that execute the business opportunities.
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i must emphasize again, the skills that able to locate oil, quantify the field/well production and lifespan will be the most "sellable" skills and will reward you handsomely. The very existence of oil companies is to find oil and these skills are highly sought .. these are the business drivers and drive all other things. Drilling, Logging, Production Operation etc etc are more like the "do-ers" that execute the business opportunities.
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you must have enough experience/knowledge/personal ability before you can get handsome reward, let say 5 yrs and above~
...and I'm still a noob in these skills.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 3 2008, 09:28 PM)
Christine, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baker_Hughes

EMBO is a method SLB uses to distribute the taxes they operate all around the world. so wherever you go in the world, you only pay EMBO tax. so that's 19% of your salary + bonuses. In US & Europe, it'll be slightly different.
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thanks Zeusu for the web add... it helps a lot... nod.gif
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QUOTE(pool @ Jan 4 2008, 09:11 AM)
Zeusu ... let be honest, i do not think you would know your direction as you are just 1 year into the job market. you have to experience different kind of jobs for you to ascertain yr inclination.

but one thing, to be sure, it is always good (and i highly recommend) to join a major oil company like exxon, shell, murphy and the likes. you will get different perspectives and be able to understand the wholeness in the oil and gas industry, i.e from exploration to drilling and that knowledge will be very essential if you like to be in o&g for a long run.

i must emphasize again, the skills that able to locate oil, quantify the field/well production and lifespan will be the most "sellable" skills and will reward you handsomely. The very existence of oil companies is to find oil and these skills are highly sought .. these are the business drivers and drive all other things. Drilling, Logging, Production Operation etc etc are more like the "do-ers" that execute the business opportunities.
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hi pool, thanks for replying. Since I'm in the field most of the time, I only got to know ppl in the operations side, so that's why I am keen to know what's happening behind the scenes. Do you happen to know anyone who's in your field now who used to be in an lwd/wireline engineer? What kind of opportunities in an operator would be open to an lwd/wireline engineer? Is it necessary to have some petroleum engineering/geology background to succeed?

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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 3 2008, 09:28 PM)
Christine, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baker_Hughes

EMBO is a method SLB uses to distribute the taxes they operate all around the world. so wherever you go in the world, you only pay EMBO tax. so that's 19% of your salary + bonuses. In US & Europe, it'll be slightly different.
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i see..... kslee, thanks for ur reply as well...
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hi pool, thanks for replying. Since I'm in the field most of the time, I only got to know ppl in the operations side, so that's why I am keen to know what's happening behind the scenes. Do you happen to know anyone who's in your field now who used to be in an lwd/wireline engineer? What kind of opportunities in an operator would be open to an lwd/wireline engineer? Is it necessary to have some petroleum engineering/geology background to succeed?
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Zeusu .. i didnt read all notes in the thread .. not sure about yr background ... if you are doing LWD/wireline i see you can start building yr skills or expertise in log analysis, or becoming petrophysicist .. it is a skill which is highly sought after and right now there is an acute shortage in this highly specialized area.

no, i hardly (may be none) saw any LWD/wireline engineer turns into subsurface engineer (reservoir or petroleum).


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you must have enough experience/knowledge/personal ability before you can get handsome reward, let say 5 yrs and above~ 
...and I'm still a noob in these skills..  biggrin.gif
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5 years? no no, 5 yrs is too short to become a specialist. you need more years than that.

from an E&P company standpoint, one won't be able to contribute INDEPENDENTLY with 5 yrs experience. Only those 5 yrs and above can start to bring money to the company.

talented folks, say in singing or poem writing, can be world class at a very young age. but in petroleum industry, you need to see enough, make a lot of mistakes, learn from mistakes, do a lot of stupid things, take reflections from it -- only then you can say: i have seen enough. each field, each well is so different that sometimes logic does not apply.



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what about having 5 years duration in FE and promote into sales and marketing for oil and gas industry....? is 5 years enough to achieve that...?
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all this depends on the segment you'll be assigned to, if anybody noticed the extra work you put in and also the location you'll be in. Some places, you can rise up really fast e.g. VP in 10-12 years! so i guess it might be reasonable to say a sales position might be reachable in say 6-10 years.
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QUOTE(pool @ Jan 4 2008, 08:53 PM)
5 years? no  no, 5 yrs is too short to become a specialist. you need more years than that.

from an E&P company standpoint, one won't be able to contribute INDEPENDENTLY with 5 yrs experience. Only those 5 yrs and above can start to bring money to the company.

talented folks, say in singing or poem writing, can be world class at a very young age. but in petroleum industry, you need to see enough, make a lot of mistakes, learn from mistakes,  do a lot of stupid things, take reflections from it -- only then you can say: i have seen enough. each field, each well is so different that sometimes logic does not apply.
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yup... exactly what i'm thinking.. nod.gif
according to USGS, an E&P guy (geocientist/geologist/geophysicist/FE or whatever...) need at least 7 years experience before can work independently..
The 5 years that I mentioned is the time line for myself to work and learn in my current company before I change to others..
In fact, i did a stupid thing for the passed one month... working non-stop in office included saturday & sunday to fix my mistakes in my seismic interpretation data... sweat.gif doh.gif
a specialist or consultant is vary from discipline to discipline and company too... some of the reservoir engineering consultant that i'd met only have 5-7 years experience.. unsure.gif

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what about having 5 years duration in FE and promote into sales and marketing for oil and gas industry....? is 5 years enough to achieve that...?
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pool, how about those engineer that work in consultant firm/office based?
eg. pipeline engineer, piping engineer.

as your reply mainly for those offshore engineers.
how about for those office based engineer?
would glad if you can give some input on those.
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gheezz.... I have applied for SLB sth like 2 weeks ago... and I call up their office in KL just now to enquire about my status... and they ask me to wait.... it's kind of make me nervous.... coz I'm fully prepare with the interview process...

so whether I will be HM or IM at the initial stage will be all determine by them right..?
and one more thing, where probably will I be trained if I were hired by SLB...?

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jan 5 2008, 11:47 AM)
pool, how about those engineer that work in consultant firm/office based?
eg. pipeline engineer, piping engineer.

as your reply mainly for those offshore engineers.
how about for those office based engineer?
would glad if you can give some input on those.
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Office based engineer here, formerly from pipeline...
One gripe I have regarding being a pipeline guy is that there is little collaboration with other departments, as it is a very specialised and narrow field in my opinion. Can be a good thing or a downside depending on how u look at it blink.gif
Shoot away if anyone got anymore questions, be glad to help out bros...

BTW, anyone can give me some feedbacks about working as a field engineer with Exx0nM0bil ? Got a call for interview from them last year but (stupidly) rejected it coz just agreed to join my current company. Too naive that time sigh >_<
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QUOTE(dylansiauw @ Jan 8 2008, 09:55 AM)
gheezz.... I have applied for SLB sth like 2 weeks ago... and I call up their office in KL just now to enquire about my status... and they ask me to wait.... it's kind of make me nervous.... coz I'm fully prepare with the interview process...

so whether I will be HM or IM at the initial stage will be all determine by them right..?
and one more thing, where probably will I be trained if I were hired by SLB...?
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they take a while. just be patient. they might offer you HCM at first, but could probably switch to IM depending on business needs. If you're IM, you could be sent to any country which has oil/gas, but for the training school, it'll be in Houston or Abu Dhabi, depending on the location you're sent to, whichever is nearer.

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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 8 2008, 12:37 PM)
they take a while. just be patient. they might offer you HCM at first, but could probably switch to IM depending on business needs. If you're IM, you could be sent to any country which has oil/gas, but for the training school, it'll be in Houston or Abu Dhabi, depending on the location you're sent to, whichever is nearer.
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I see... then the Abu Dhabi will be close to my home country then...
For the rest of the company BHI, wheatherford, halliburton... I think it's better to sent my hard copy of resume directly to them right?

What do you all think...? or I should stick back to applying online...?
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it's not based on your home country, based on the location you're sent to e.g. you're sent to latin america, then you'll be in Houston for training, etc, but there's always exceptions since the school in Houston could be fully booked and you have to goto Abu Dhabi & vice versa.


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Office based engineer here, formerly from pipeline...
One gripe I have regarding being a pipeline guy is that there is little collaboration with other departments, as it is a very specialised and narrow field in my opinion. Can be a good thing or a downside depending on how u look at it  blink.gif
Shoot away if anyone got anymore questions, be glad to help out bros...
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i almost became a pipeline engineer but rejected it in the end. Mind telling us more about it? Like what the job entails, challenges, pros, cons, etc?

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hi,

i've learned a lot about this industry from this forum as it indeed has been very informative with all the 'guru's advices. i'm currently a undergrad in my final yr in mechanical engineering. can i know is there any O & G company out there taking internship for student like me? really keen to join this industry in future hence an early exposure would be very beneficial to me. please advice. thanks a lot!
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it's not based on your home country, based on the location you're sent to e.g. you're sent to latin america, then you'll be in Houston for training, etc, but there's always exceptions since the school in Houston could be fully booked and you have to goto Abu Dhabi & vice versa.


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i almost became a pipeline engineer but rejected it in the end. Mind telling us more about it? Like what the job entails, challenges, pros, cons, etc?
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your pipeline engineer is what job scope they offering you? Design or service?
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design i think.
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Need to go for the MSTS training next week, HUET, EBS and some other things also. Can those experienced worker mind share some tips on this training? Is this training hard?
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Does anyone here work as an instrument engineer?
What does instrument engineer do? hmmm... really wanna know

Planner/control vs instrument which one have a better prospect?

Anyone can give some advise? nod.gif
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Need to go for the MSTS training next week, HUET, EBS and some other things also. Can those experienced worker mind share some tips on this training? Is this training hard?
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please read front page, i think around page 6-8

HUET is the most challenging part, others training such as fire drill, sea survival training, and escape from dark (smoke) room is not difficult.

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i almost became a pipeline engineer but rejected it in the end. Mind telling us more about it? Like what the job entails, challenges, pros, cons, etc?
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Job scope for a pipeline engineer involves lots of these 3 things:-
-calculations to ensure feasible design (stresses due to environmental loads + internal pressure + temperature)
-report writing to justify calculations/drawings
-perform drawings mark-ups and then ensuring the drafters don't screw them up rclxub.gif

Pros : Narrow and specific field, so if one is good at it there is money to be made (demand > supply)

Cons : Narrow and specific field biggrin.gif , so if one dislikes doing theoretical work then difficult to branch out to other field


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QUOTE(iDk @ Jan 9 2008, 07:25 AM)
Need to go for the MSTS training next week, HUET, EBS and some other things also. Can those experienced worker mind share some tips on this training? Is this training hard?
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muhahahaha!

be prepared to swallow a lot of water using the EBS shit! nod.gif

bleh, me myself the safety training will expire on next june.
now feel so malas to renew my medical check up
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jan 9 2008, 01:52 PM)
muhahahaha!

be prepared to swallow a lot of water using the EBS shit! nod.gif

bleh, me myself the safety training will expire on next june.
now feel so malas to renew my medical check up
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wah... you putting a curse a me ah? But you sure or not? as my fren told me that EBS help a lot in underwater le yawn.gif hahaha, hope that it is not hard for me, as i used to play power mask diving in the sea tongue.gif LoL, the medical check-up is really the mafan part, it takes quite long time for me to finish everything, 11~1pm. Take off shirt, wear back shirt, take off again, wear back again, and again sweat.gif Some told me that their medical check up took up to 6 hours.


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please read front page, i think around page 6-8

HUET is the most challenging part, others training such as fire drill, sea survival training, and escape from dark (smoke) room is not difficult.
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HUET at CONSIST:
1) straight ditch and escapes from the helicopter module
2) capsize and escape without doors and windows
3) capsize and escape with doors and windows fitted


I heard that the BOSET at SMTC, Miri is more difficult, they have the wave generator to make 1m artificial sea wave.



some told me that huet is:
1) dip half of mold-up chopper into water.
2) dip full chopper into water
3) dip full and turn the chopper upside down.

that is what confused me.

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mm...i was wondering whether networking & system have the chance to work offshore or not...& how is the pay ? brows.gif
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Hi, I am currently 18 years old ( This year) and still got no idea what to do in the future. If I take up a career in oil and gas, is it worth it? Since many factors may bring down the needs of these kind of expertise such as new alternative fuel in the future, depletion of fossil gas, and so on.
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Guys.. how bout family? Can we provide sufficient attention to our family if we are involved in O&G industry?? can u share your experience.. im kinda like a family guy.. you know.. wanna spend some time wif my little kids wub.gif and my beautiful wife wub.gif so to me this aspect is kinda important to be considered.. though im not married yet.. sweat.gif so what do you guys think??

p/s: sorry if this question has been asked.. didnt come across any related matter AFAIK..
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very hard to answer your question man, mainly depends on which sector of oil & gas industry you're working in & also the company.

Some guys i work with have 3 wives in 3 continents, some have horrible divorces where they pay 55% of their salary to their wives, some have 5 girlfriends in the same island & some even divorce the wife and marry their daughter (from another marriage): could be a blessing for you or a curse.

but if it's office based, i guess it's pretty much like other office jobs.
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 9 2008, 08:56 PM)
very hard to answer your question man, mainly depends on which sector of oil & gas industry you're working in & also the company.

Some guys i work with have 3 wives in 3 continents, some have horrible divorces where they pay 55% of their salary to their wives, some have 5 girlfriends in the same island & some even divorce the wife and marry their daughter (from another marriage): could be a blessing for you or a curse.

but if it's office based, i guess it's pretty much like other office jobs.
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif oki lets narrow the scope.. how bout family life for engineers who work off-shore? within malaysia ofcoz.. icon_question.gif
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I know a few engineers in Shell and Schlumberger, based in Miri and outside Malaysia. For the most part their family goes with them eg. in Vietnam, Egypt etc. although the family doesn't go offshore obviously.

There is a possibility of family life once you're more experienced, although you will be away from family for days at a time when you're offshore. On the other hand I also have a friend attached with Shell Nigeria, families not allowed at all due to security reasons so he's away from his wife and kids for months.

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QUOTE(iDk @ Jan 9 2008, 06:20 PM)
some told me that huet is:
1) dip half of mold-up chopper into water.
2) dip full chopper into water
3) dip full and turn the chopper upside down.

that is what confused me.
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almost the same thing...

QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Jan 9 2008, 09:00 PM)
shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif oki lets narrow the scope.. how bout family life for engineers who work off-shore? within malaysia ofcoz..  icon_question.gif
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leave their family at home...

for the workers who working offshore, they need to go through and pass the BOSET and get the offshore safety passport (a MUST), and the cabin/room at rig is limited.

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some say the static of divorce in O&G is 80%. smile.gif
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[quote=iDk,Jan 9 2008, 06:20 PM]
wah... you putting a curse a me ah? But you sure or not? as my fren told me that EBS help a lot in underwater le yawn.gif hahaha, hope that it is not hard for me, as i used to play power mask diving in the sea tongue.gif LoL, the medical check-up is really the mafan part, it takes quite long time for me to finish everything, 11~1pm. Take off shirt, wear back shirt, take off again, wear back again, and again sweat.gif Some told me that their medical check up took up to 6 hours.


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some told me that huet is:
1) dip half of mold-up chopper into water.
2) dip full chopper into water
3) dip full and turn the chopper upside down.

that is what confused me.
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no lah...where got i curse you?
i thought that you have safely enjoying the sea survival plus EBS?

for frequent traveller offshore, that EBS is heavy until you sweat underneath it when wearing it for long hours (i hour flight to my previous complex). not too ergonomic & may cause neck pain.
i still prefer the old way of life jackets.



yeah medical check up is the scary part shakehead.gif
that's why la why i feel reluctant to do it every time. macam2 test, but if you are normal & at young age so the test will be less.....
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some say the static of divorce in O&G is 80%. smile.gif
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oversea... maybe... but not the case in malaysia...

QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jan 10 2008, 04:02 PM)
yeah medical check up is the scary part shakehead.gif
that's why la why i feel reluctant to do it every time. macam2 test, but if you are normal & at young age so the test will be less.....
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I knew what you mean brows.gif
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QUOTE(forrest @ Jan 10 2008, 04:49 PM)
oversea... maybe... but not the case in malaysia...
I knew what you mean  brows.gif
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hah you notty forrest tongue.gif

in case of divorce...no la...they 'makin jauh makin sayang'
but for sure these offshore men is productive, every year expecting new offspring biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jan 11 2008, 09:17 AM)
hah you notty forrest tongue.gif

in case of divorce...no la...they 'makin jauh makin sayang'
but for sure these offshore men is productive, every year expecting new offspring biggrin.gif
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sweat.gif another word is horny?
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this 14-15 januari have confrence at KLCC wana join ...?
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Just got my confirmation to join Big Red as a MWD/LWD Engineer today, going to be based in kl/miri. rclxms.gif

Still considering it tho, since the basic salary is way lower than what I'd expected. For a fresh grad/new entrants, the basic pay is slightly lower than that of a fresh grad PETRONAS engineer.

I always assumed that service companies give more basic salary than that of operators, but guess I'm mistaken this time. Their HR assured me that the total monthly pay (basic + offshore allowance) will be much more than that, but I dunno. Can someone give me advice on this?

Decisions, decisions. Chances like this don't come often, I know. But somehow the basic pay issue doesn't sit well with me. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Jan 11 2008, 09:17 AM)
hah you notty forrest tongue.gif

in case of divorce...no la...they 'makin jauh makin sayang'
but for sure these offshore men is productive, every year expecting new offspring biggrin.gif
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too late for me to become a doctor... blush.gif

asian is different compare to westerner loh~

QUOTE(sharkkjerung @ Jan 11 2008, 06:10 PM)
this 14-15 januari have confrence at KLCC wana join ...?
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I will go, Petroleum Geology Conference & Exhibition.....

sweat.gif actually i need to present a paper.... but... escape from disaster... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(iDk @ Jan 11 2008, 06:09 PM)
sweat.gif  another word is horny?
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more or less....

nope, they 'kegersangan' actually tongue.gif
that's why la so easy to make their feel horny brows.gif


once there was a joke, the father came home....looking nothing else but for the wife. although the children is there waiting for hug & kisses, but in the end "where's mom?" while hands pushing the children away.
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Jan 11 2008, 07:52 PM)
Just got my confirmation to join Big Red as a MWD/LWD Engineer today, going to be based in kl/miri.  rclxms.gif

Still considering it tho, since the basic salary is way lower than what I'd expected. For a fresh grad/new entrants, the basic pay is slightly lower than that of a fresh grad PETRONAS engineer.

I always assumed that service companies give more basic salary than that of operators, but guess I'm mistaken this time. Their HR assured me that the total monthly pay (basic + offshore allowance) will be much more than that, but I dunno. Can someone give me advice on this?

Decisions, decisions. Chances like this don't come often, I know. But somehow the basic pay issue doesn't sit well with me.  hmm.gif
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they pay in what currency? what is the basic? what is the lowest allowance and highest allowance like?


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more or less....

nope, they 'kegersangan' actually tongue.gif
that's why la so easy to make their feel horny brows.gif
once there was a joke, the father came home....looking nothing else but for the wife. although the children is there waiting for hug & kisses, but in the end "where's mom?" while hands pushing the children away.
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hihi.... maybe after that at mid night, he still got another flight to catch, so making child became the first priority task for him while at home tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Ezra @ Jan 11 2008, 07:52 PM)
Just got my confirmation to join Big Red as a MWD/LWD Engineer today, going to be based in kl/miri.  rclxms.gif

Still considering it tho, since the basic salary is way lower than what I'd expected. For a fresh grad/new entrants, the basic pay is slightly lower than that of a fresh grad PETRONAS engineer.

I always assumed that service companies give more basic salary than that of operators, but guess I'm mistaken this time. Their HR assured me that the total monthly pay (basic + offshore allowance) will be much more than that, but I dunno. Can someone give me advice on this?

Decisions, decisions. Chances like this don't come often, I know. But somehow the basic pay issue doesn't sit well with me.  hmm.gif
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Halliburton... ? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Jan 11 2008, 07:52 PM)
Just got my confirmation to join Big Red as a MWD/LWD Engineer today, going to be based in kl/miri.  rclxms.gif

Still considering it tho, since the basic salary is way lower than what I'd expected. For a fresh grad/new entrants, the basic pay is slightly lower than that of a fresh grad PETRONAS engineer.

I always assumed that service companies give more basic salary than that of operators, but guess I'm mistaken this time. Their HR assured me that the total monthly pay (basic + offshore allowance) will be much more than that, but I dunno. Can someone give me advice on this?

Decisions, decisions. Chances like this don't come often, I know. But somehow the basic pay issue doesn't sit well with me.  hmm.gif
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just go bro... u r freshies. gain experience & after 2 years test ur market. you will easily earn RM later....
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Jan 11 2008, 07:52 PM)
Just got my confirmation to join Big Red as a MWD/LWD Engineer today, going to be based in kl/miri.  rclxms.gif

Still considering it tho, since the basic salary is way lower than what I'd expected. For a fresh grad/new entrants, the basic pay is slightly lower than that of a fresh grad PETRONAS engineer.

I always assumed that service companies give more basic salary than that of operators, but guess I'm mistaken this time. Their HR assured me that the total monthly pay (basic + offshore allowance) will be much more than that, but I dunno. Can someone give me advice on this?

Decisions, decisions. Chances like this don't come often, I know. But somehow the basic pay issue doesn't sit well with me.  hmm.gif
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I just saw the post on today's star newspaper... I'm gonna apply as well...

Anyway, does anyone come across Petrofac Malaysia...? They are offering Reservoir Engineer for fresh grad as well... can anyone tell me whether is this company good or not....? Thanx...!
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QUOTE(iDk @ Jan 12 2008, 04:06 AM)

hihi.... maybe after that at mid night, he still got another flight to catch, so making child became the first priority task for him while at home tongue.gif
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i thought that "safety is the first priority"? ohmy.gif







wink.gif muhahahaa.....
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sifu...currently i'm designer/tech.asst for marine conversion(FPSO/FSO) at MMHE...very intrested to work at offshore..but still dunno wat position suit for me at offshore...wat company should i join(easy compny to get in)????
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i thought that "safety is the first priority"? ohmy.gif
wink.gif  muhahahaa.....
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Maybe he still practicing the old culture, work-done-come-first basis.


Just finished my BOSIET at MSTS. At the training, quite a lot of middle~old age men (most of them are auto-pilot welder) attended the training also. But, i quite doubt that they understand much about the training, as some of them have the dont-understand-and-who-give-a-f*ck attitude. But for all, friend told me that once you saw them working on the rig, you better run far far away from them.


Is the BOSIET also class into 3 group? Basic, tropical and cool water BOSIET? Or all are just the same BOSIET.
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they pay in what currency? what is the basic? what is the lowest allowance and highest allowance like?
I can't say about the amount, but it's in RM. I'm going to be based in KL/Miri after all. Offshore allowance, well, I don't have the figures. An employee inside told me it's at least 6x what I'm getting now, so it's all good biggrin.gif

QUOTE(forrest @ Jan 12 2008, 10:38 AM)
Halliburton... ?  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(mancy @ Jan 12 2008, 10:57 AM)
just go bro... u r freshies. gain experience & after 2 years test ur market. you will easily earn RM later....
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Yeah, you're correct. To be honest, it is now or never, as they don't recruit regularly. And they seem to be picky since they rather hold 2nd round recruitment than just hire the numbers they need from 1st round. So I'm gonna close my eyes and take the plunge.

QUOTE(iDk @ Jan 16 2008, 11:34 PM)
Maybe he still practicing the old culture, work-done-come-first basis.
Just finished my BOSIET at MSTS. At the training, quite a lot of middle~old age men (most of them are auto-pilot welder) attended the training also. But, i quite doubt that they understand much about the training, as some of them have the dont-understand-and-who-give-a-f*ck attitude. But for all, friend told me that once you saw them working on the rig, you better run far far away from them.
Is the BOSIET also class into 3 group? Basic, tropical and cool water BOSIET? Or all are just the same BOSIET.
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No idea. The cert is written as just BOSET, don't have weather classification also.

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juz wanna ask u guys...

i'm a chem/bio college grad...are there jobs for ppl like me in the oil/gas field?
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QUOTE(Ezra @ Jan 18 2008, 10:12 AM)
I can't say about the amount, but it's in RM. I'm going to be based in KL/Miri after all. Offshore allowance, well, I don't have the figures. An employee inside told me it's at least 6x what I'm getting now, so it's all good biggrin.gif
Shhhhhh!
Yeah, you're correct. To be honest, it is now or never, as they don't recruit regularly. And they seem to be picky since they rather hold 2nd round recruitment than just hire the numbers they need from 1st round. So I'm gonna close my eyes and take the plunge.
No idea. The cert is written as just BOSET, don't have weather classification also.
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That's weird, I though they already include the allowance table inside your employment letter? 6x of what you earning now is you work full one month offshore to get that figure or what?

The BOSIET as i know, they class them according to few types, so far i heard of typical water and cold water, the hardest should be cold water i guess as you know that cold water survive is different and the only place that i know is North Sea (They claimed there is the most dangerous rig to work).
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if it doesn't say bosiet-t then it's the normal one, where you get to wear the suit (very bulky & heavy) which keeps you warm when you have to abandon the rig.
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ohh... is it call that way? bosiet, bosiet-t or bosiet-c? I just know the existance of them, not sure the actual name.
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only aware of 2: bosiet and bosiet-t, the other one i haven't heard of it. anyway, it doesn't really matter, the operator decides what you need, and you just ask your company to pay for whatever course they need you to take.
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Another thing is the H2S awareness training and confine space training, is that a must have procedure to work at certain area of the rig? or it is just for the worker's own safety interest?
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Another thing is the H2S awareness training and confine space training, is that a must have procedure to work at certain area of the rig? or it is just for the worker's own safety interest?
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H2S training is only needed at certain platform where the gas exist. As for confine space, I think it is included in the normal safety offshore training.
Correct me if I'm wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi guys, i just been inform by petronas to work for them as project engineer at Petronas Penapisan Melaka.seem like too far from my interest.because i think i will deal a lot with chemistry subject.. cry.gif actually i keen to join PCSB..besides the work scope i belief that PCSB workers can get more allowance since they work offshore..
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QUOTE(feizalz @ Jan 19 2008, 05:40 PM)
H2S training is only needed at certain platform where the gas exist. As for confine space, I think it is included in the normal safety offshore training.
Correct me if I'm wrong.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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erm.... my bosiet does not include confine space training. Anyway, the H2S is too scary to listen to, and also the black sand (mercury in another form or something like that).
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normally bosiet or CA(insert no here) does not include confined space training.
however H2S Awareness is part of the course, basically showing videos on how to escape & how to react with H2S emergencies...
if proper H2S training you must have been using the BA set & squat in the hot sun....

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Hi guys... if I apply slb online they will send me a auto respond email right.... but i think i didn't receive it about a month d... does it mean my application is not successful?
if this is the case, can i try apply another time? will it jeopardize my chances be hired...?
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Hi guys,

Oil & Gas is a very interesting and challenging job. Anyway, recently I am facing a problem in this industry. Does anyone know if a year of exprience or to in Oil and Gas Industry is enough for future career in Oil and Gas? Is it good if I go for a more specific position as a service provider to Oil and Gas Industry? Less changes to diversify in future??
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hi dylan, give it 6 months - 1 year to be safe. january's a busy time for HR, I think they have yet to decide hiring targets yet.
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Dylan, that's right. I have applied to SLB before as well & I was called for interview for 4 times before they failed me on the final one. My experience was, they may take few months to response to your application. So, be patience.
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hello all...im newbies about O/G career but interesting to apply sooner.still in final sem bachelor electrical eng upm.what tips all of u want to share with me so i can prepare before grad.. anyone working in o/g sabah??..i just finished doing my CV rite now hihihihi
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hello..can any1 tell me wat the main qualification to entry Under water Welding and safety and health officer?

diploma..?

where in malaysia..??


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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 22 2008, 06:59 PM)
hi dylan, give it 6 months - 1 year to be safe. january's a busy time for HR, I think they have yet to decide hiring targets yet.
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Dylan, that's right. I have applied to SLB before as well & I was called for interview for 4 times before they failed me on the final one. My experience was, they may take few months to response to your application. So, be patience.
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Thanks zeusu and Noobies... then i will be patiently for them to call me up....

most probably i will quit my job very soon as i need to go to taipei for some personal matter for one months... so my company wont allow me to take one month leave... and most importantly i am really bored with semicon industry d....

that's way i'm quite nervous to get a new job soon when i come back to malaysia....
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wow.. looking at all the posts in this thread.. it seems the applications to OnG are endless..
I'm from um.. gonna graduate around august this yr..
I went for the interview for Schlumberger a yr ago for internship.. went right up to the last stage wit the DCS head or sumthing..
But then the HR or something told me that DCS wasn't taking in interns at that time..
My coursemate who was also offered DCS went to try out again recently.. and they put her into SIS..
I'm still pondering on trying out for slb again..

may I know how is it like under WesternGeco, DCS or SIS?

heck.. I'm even considering going for the shell gourami challenge.. oh fickle-minded me..

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Hi guys... does anyone ever heard of Transocean Drilling Sdn. Bhd. http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Our_Company-2.html

How's the working env and the pay of this company? If compare with slb and BHI, does Transocean has any better ad and disadvantage from them.?

Could anyone plz advise me... thank you...
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Transocean's a drilling contractor, own alot of rigs and drill for operators. Just merged with GSF. Long time ago, they merged with Sedco-Forex (used to be owned by SLB).

It's hard to compare since they are essentially different jobs from what BHI & SLB offer (if you exclude SLB's IPM), but a driller job (internationoal) pays really well in transocean, but I would say it's more of a hands-on work. But you get regular rotations, if irregular you get overtime.

Typically the training program (from what I heard) involves a rotation of all the work on the rig where you have to work your way up, from a roustabout to roughneck/derrickman to driller, then toolpusher and eventually an OIM/rig manager.

and powdersnow, DCS does more interpretation work (geoscientists, petrophysicists, etc) while SIS does more of the IT stuff SLB has. WesternGeco's our seismic side (exploring seas, deserts for oil/gas).
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nowadays this industry is damn hard to do already..
my father own a hydralic & lubricant factory last year
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Perhaps some experienced fellas could advise me the job scope of a mechanical engineer (static) in the O&G line of work?


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static and another one is rotary. Static machinery and rotary machinery. Which mean you gonna deal with the things that is not rotating. Rotating like turbine, pump etc. That is what i see around.
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need some help....did u know how to apply a job in O&G industires...coz when i read ads from paper or jobstreet, the requirements so demand. i mean the experience, its so long experience. but im a fresh grad. feel like im too far behind n dun hev any chance....

so how n where may i apply 4 any post dat related in O&G industries. im very serious to work in this field.

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hi dylan, give it 6 months - 1 year to be safe. january's a busy time for HR, I think they have yet to decide hiring targets yet.
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I didnt receive any auto reply from slb...oh no..gona resubmit or ? where can check my status?
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Jan 27 2008, 11:37 AM)
Transocean's a drilling contractor, own alot of rigs and drill for operators. Just merged with GSF. Long time ago, they merged with Sedco-Forex (used to be owned by SLB).

It's hard to compare since they are essentially different jobs from what BHI & SLB offer (if you exclude SLB's IPM), but a driller job (internationoal) pays really well in transocean, but I would say it's more of a hands-on work. But you get regular rotations, if irregular you get overtime.

Typically the training program (from what I heard) involves a rotation of all the work on the rig where you have to work your way up, from a roustabout to roughneck/derrickman to driller, then toolpusher and eventually an OIM/rig manager.

and powdersnow, DCS does more interpretation work (geoscientists, petrophysicists, etc) while SIS does more of the IT stuff SLB has. WesternGeco's our seismic side (exploring seas, deserts for oil/gas).
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thanks again zeusu... well explained.... hmm... then i will apply it as well... coz that's all i need for a head start...
so roughly how long will it take to become an OIM....?
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i'm not too sure but I think it's long, probably like 10-20 years, if you can make it through the ranks. Most OIMs I see don't seem very young.
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Hi, I am new here...
Just a question out of curiosity, are you guys/girls in this industry high achievers in school/uni? Do you have to be actively involve in sport/societies/ possess leadership skills etc?

I applied for internship position at Shell last year, but did not even managed to go for any interview. Just a plain email saying that I dun have the qualifications they are looking for.. Now that I cant apply for graduate position.. need to wait until 24 months (or 12..cant remember) to apply again.. Sad =(

I have a degree in electrical engineering anyway...



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QUOTE(iDk @ Jan 28 2008, 01:09 AM)
static and another one is rotary. Static machinery and rotary machinery. Which mean you gonna deal with the things that is not rotating. Rotating like turbine, pump etc. That is what i see around.
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Static u deal with pressure vessel, tank, heat exchanger. I'm a static package engineer....

Depend on which side u want to work, can be client, consultant or vendor/fabricator.

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Does anyone works in / knows about Scomi Group Berhad? I was asked to attend interview for the position of Corporate Communication Exec. Is that advisable?
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Could anyone share abt the working environment as a services project engineer ( major in DCS ) in 0&G field?
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Hi, anyone work in Transocean or has any info about this company? I've receive a invitation for recruitment presentation from this company. Thanks for the input.
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QUOTE(aki_84 @ Jan 29 2008, 07:32 PM)
Hi, I am new here...
Just a question out of curiosity, are you guys/girls in this industry high achievers in school/uni? Do you have to be actively involve in sport/societies/ possess leadership skills etc?

I applied for internship position at Shell last year, but did not even managed to go for any interview. Just a plain email saying that I dun have the qualifications they are looking for.. Now that I cant apply for graduate position.. need to wait until 24 months (or 12..cant remember) to apply again.. Sad =(

I have a degree in electrical engineering anyway...
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I remember it is 12 months while for SLB, 24 months.

Shell internship interview was just about "tell me about yourself, how you reach against conflict and a question regarding common issue".
It was fun anyway.
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frenz if i need 2 netr oil n gas industry wat eng shud i choose..i m a spm leaver..curently..n i m planin 2 tk up electrical n electronic eng...
any advices
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mechanical, electrical, civil, petroleum, geology, geophysics, math, physics

if you have any of the degrees mentioned above you can work in o&g, there must be more but a majority of my colleagues graduated in those disciplines.
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I'm looking my way out from the current company(doing telco for O&G)..dun mind at all to jump into different field e.g wireline,FE,LWD/MWD..i've been sending out my CV to most of the service company as well as O&G consultant..but yet to receive any reply from them..i went to Weatherford's interview a few weeks back but it seems I didn't make it..so guys,in case u know which company or in fact ur company is hiring people,kindly let me know..appreciate your help..thanks.. smile.gif
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I've just got a phone call from baker hughes to go their interview this coming valentine's 14th of february which is very very suddden for me. though i've been went through several interviews for different companies, im still quite blur about what i need to talk about during the interview sad.gif ... could anyone from BH gives me some tips about it ASAP???? thanks!!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Feb 11 2008, 03:39 PM)
I've just got a phone call from baker hughes to go their interview this coming valentine's 14th of february which is very very suddden for me. though i've been went through several interviews for different companies, im still quite blur about what i need to talk about during the interview sad.gif ... could anyone from BH gives me some tips about it ASAP???? thanks!!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Waahh..good for u..have applied so many time still didn't get even an email from BH... tongue.gif

Btw, what post are u applying for?

All the best for the interview! thumbup.gif
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guys, no one discussing about BASF ? Thought it is a chemical company, it is also related to gas.
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=) thanks! i apply for geotechnician but honestly, im still not sure what geotechician is all about....
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guys, no one discussing about BASF ? Thought it is a chemical company, it is also related to gas.
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The only thing I know about BASF is they are having this partnership with PETRONAS. That's all. biggrin.gif

Care to elaborate more, ataris?


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=) thanks! i apply for geotechnician but honestly, im still not sure what geotechician is all about....
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Christine, did u apply thru BH website?

Am dying to work in BH, but sadly the opportunity still didn't come. sad.gif

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QUOTE(feizalz @ Feb 12 2008, 11:35 AM)
The only thing I know about BASF is they are having this partnership with PETRONAS. That's all. biggrin.gif

Care to elaborate more, ataris?


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Christine, did u apply thru BH website?

Am dying to work in BH, but sadly the opportunity still didn't come.  sad.gif
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Yea, through their website... u can create ur profile for their reference and apply for certain position in that company.... btw, do u know what does geotechnicians do? wink.gif
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Feb 12 2008, 01:39 PM)
Yea, through their website... u can create ur profile for their reference and apply for certain position in that company.... btw, do u know what does geotechnicians do? wink.gif
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QUOTE(christine85 @ Feb 12 2008, 01:39 PM)
Yea, through their website... u can create ur profile for their reference and apply for certain position in that company.... btw, do u know what does geotechnicians do? wink.gif
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Ouh,ok..i did the same thing..how long did u wait before getting their phone call?

Sorry,i've no idea about geotechnicians..but I think it's more on the finding/discovering potential spots for drilling...you might try to google to get more info.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Feb 5 2008, 09:23 AM)
I remember it is 12 months while for SLB, 24 months.

Shell internship interview was just about "tell me about yourself, how you reach against conflict and a question regarding common issue".
It was fun anyway.
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yea.... the most important thing is how are u making urself shine compare to other candidates... but, one point to bear in mind is that ''talk only what u know' cause their hr ppl are really tricky and smart.. every of the point u talk about will make them point out other questions which makes u need to go deep and xplain it with the real xperience or knowledge. rolleyes.gif


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Ouh,ok..i did the same thing..how long did u wait before getting their phone call?

Sorry,i've no idea about geotechnicians..but I think it's more on the finding/discovering potential spots for drilling...you might try to google to get more info.. smile.gif
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haha... its ok, i've asked some ppl about it and all i got is ''haha, sorry, i dunno'' biggrin.gif ... i'm not sure but remember i applied for it last month, january.... so, around 2 or 3 weeks...

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QUOTE(christine85 @ Feb 12 2008, 02:25 PM)
yea.... the most important thing is how are u making urself shine compare to other candidates... but, one point to bear in mind is that ''talk only what u know' cause their hr ppl are really tricky and smart.. every of the point u talk about will make them point out other questions which makes u need to go deep and xplain it with the real xperience or knowledge. rolleyes.gif


Added on February 12, 2008, 3:43 pm

haha... its ok, i've asked some ppl about it and all i got is ''haha, sorry, i dunno'' biggrin.gif ... i'm not sure but remember i applied for it last month, january.... so, around 2 or 3 weeks...
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the interview is ok, just an informal chatting with 2geoscientist manager... they give me information about the job specification and information and ask some questions about me.... however, i still need to wait for around 2 or 3 weeks before they make the final decision as now is still the early stage of recruitment....
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For those who already been working in O&G industry for long, i have a question to ask you guys and need your opinion and point of view on it. (It is only for those who ALREADY working in O&G!).

I consider myself is already in OG because now is still under training period. Until recently, i had a chat with one of my friend who working in one of the top drilling company (no name mentioning). He is LWD engineer. After spoke to him, he asked me why dont join the Upstream process, he can help me to check around with his boss for vacancy in LWD. But i told him that i will think about it after few years time in my current field (pipeline inspection specialist). Then he tell me why waste time in that field, where else i still need to learn everything from the beginning again if i change to LWD, and he say LWD's pay is where too much higher than my current field market just because of the different of upstream and downstream.

My mind keep on thinking shall i jump now if i got the chance or just stick with my current field and look at the situation first. Because the pay is what i concern about.

So for those "old horse" in this field, free to give me some of your opinion on this matter, ok? Thanks in advance, and have a present day.

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Anyone knows other companies that providing services like Geoservices, Western Geco, Fugro etc?

I don't really know how to describe their services but I think it's more on data acquisition or whatnot.

Please, I really need the info. Thanks
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any IT vacancy in OnG? How is the IT pay? hope to get higher pay...
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guys, need info..
how many interview screening for schlumberger??
i will have group interview at the end of april.
im looking forward to work in this co even the works environment is tough.
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guys, need info..
how many interview screening for schlumberger??
i will have group interview at the end of april.
im looking forward to work in this co even the works environment is tough.
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some will face three. some will face five. i am very much envy of you. i really-really wanted to join this company since the day I graduated.
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QUOTE(nagasie @ Feb 26 2008, 11:37 PM)
guys, need info..
how many interview screening for schlumberger??
i will have group interview at the end of april.
im looking forward to work in this co even the works environment is tough.
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First, how old are you? They only want young engineer (preferably 26 year-old and younger) as field engineer. You will go through the HR interview. Then, another round of group activity if you pass the first interview.
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i'm 24 this year. actually when i tried to apply the job online, i was unsuccessful. however i graduated on 23, 6 months unemployed, settling down the jpa scholarship matter.

but recently, my uni organized a career fair and one of the participated company is schlumberger. from there, i attend the talk, meet them, attend short interview and i passed. they give me a date to come to their group interview after that. well, it depend on your luck.

maybe you guys can try meet them in any career fair wherever they participated rather than applying the job online and the online feedback is not faster compared to walk-in interview with them.
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hihi... me again for some question....

is there anyone working in DIALOG, http://www.dialogasia.com/default.asp
wish to work in OnG industry but since all those giant havent give me a reply yet...
so i decided to try others as well....

please kindly share some of your experiences in Dialog... thank you...
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hi everyone out there.......im graduating this coming august and im facing a hige dillema now... i've been offered wt a job as a geotechnician in baker hughes, and at the same time, i've been shorlisted for the screening and the group interview by slb..... the only thing left is to wait for the result of the personal interview and the last interview in the kl office. which company between baker and slb is better if, i say if, im offered to work in slb as well?
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honestly, it depends on the offer. i'm sure you can ask to hold the offer?

international contracts are much better than local ones. and also depends on what position you get in slb.
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QUOTE(zeusu @ Mar 3 2008, 01:35 PM)
honestly, it depends on the offer. i'm sure you can ask to hold the offer?

international contracts are much better than local ones. and also depends on what position you get in slb.
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yea.... i do agree, but if i want to build my career, let say for 10years in the same company, which one will be a better choice?
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does this industry have jobs for chem and bio college grad?
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QUOTE(dylansiauw @ Mar 3 2008, 09:09 AM)
hihi... me again for some question....

is there anyone working in DIALOG, http://www.dialogasia.com/default.asp
wish to work in OnG industry but since all those giant havent give me a reply yet...
so i decided to try others as well....

please kindly share some of your experiences in Dialog... thank you...
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U can try working there.. good place to start. but mentally must be strong becoz from my experience they only offer a low salary especially to the freshie, and u must cover other position also even u just a freshie. and just prepare to urself to travelling. but u can learn from there for 1~2 Year and then jumping to other company. Quite easy to get a job at dialog becoz they have a lot of problem to recruit a staff, no one wanna work with low pay izzit?? gud luck to you.
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if youre a fresh grad and you take a position as a field engineer what should you be expecting out there? do they dump you out in the field straight away? by yourself ?

and female field engineer ... any comments?
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if youre a fresh grad and you take a position as a field engineer what should you be expecting out there? do they dump you out in the field straight away? by yourself ?

and female field engineer ... any comments?
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drool.gif female engineer.. not many girl wanna working at site. so far i only found few. but as a field engineer that doesnt meant u need to come to site everyday. but if u come to site everybody will whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif at you... but u will have advantage as a girl coz everybody trying to be nice with u.

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