Wha qualifications do you have and in which line do yu intend to enter the oil n gas industry. Perhaps a bit more specifics would help us narrow it down regarding info in the oil & gas industry. Not all of it is good.

er.. lolx 17k? dude try being a sailor, Marine navigator, there is shortage of them Worlwide.

And guess how much is the lowest paid in Malaysia right now? Lowest paid marine Captain is offered by a company in Miri and it is only 27K per month. However, almost no marine capt would sink that low to get a job. They might have upped it a bit the past few months.

So that would be ur best bet. Go be a marine captain then ppl will come look for you.

Overall petronas is just a safe option for ppl who wanna work in oil and gas, working there would be just like in the gov lah lolx all relax only lolx. But in the end you won't learn much.

And this remark, I've heard from quite a number of seniors in the Industry. They have been working for more than 40 yrs in the Oil and Gas industry and are still called back in as consultants, etc. cos the new breed of workers dun seem to know anything apparently lolx

My dad has been in the Oil&Gas Industry for over 30 years now and retired at that. However, they have called him back and he works 10 days a month as a consultant. My DREAM job really.

Yes you can apply for Shell or Petronas, etc but did you know Shell's contract now is for only 2 years? After that u will be on review again. SO the best bet is to work for their contractors. You will learn so much more. In the end you will see that Shell and Petronas are not your best options.

As for being away from families that only applies to those who want to work offshore or work on site. i.e. Up-Stream. Basic is low but allowances are high.

However, you have to bear in mind that getting into oil & gas will not give you high salaries initially. We know that the position can easily be taken over by another grad who will be willing to work at a lower salary so why pay more? It's not really exploiting but more like an employers market not. We offer you low basic but we offer you allowances which will no doubt bring you money at the end of the month and it might be lower than your other friends who work in logistics and all that But wait a year or two then you will see how much more you can earn.

Keep in mind, here we're straight forward, if we dun like something we tell it to you straight. There's no time for BS and all that. If we find you slacking we have an easy solution. Just sack you and get someone else.

At times you will be bored in the office in between jobs on site. Other than that it doesn't last that long u might get maybe a few days rest between jobs then out you go again. This of course I'm speaking about the NDT engineering side of things.

Also you can enter into the marketing side of the industry but based in KL for now.

Currently I'm hunting for Abseilers (IRATA qualified). and mainly Abseiling Engineers. This guys are specialised in their field and among the highest earners. There is a shortage of these people and if any of you here are interested please mail me your resume. The shortage wil become more apparent when more and more companies phase out scaffolding, which is happening right now. Shell, Petronas, ADMA, Pertamina, etc are all phasing out scaffolding and are opting for abseiling as it is faster, much cheaper and so much safer.

As to getting in via recommendation, yes it's true you need to know someone to get in easier. Remember this might be a global industry but we are a small and close-knit community.

Come come be like me Safety Officer! the guy people love to hate! lolx The person who (you see) to be sitting around n walking around and telling people wat to do and how to do it etc. the person whom everyone thinks sits around and does nothing. Until accident happen then become CSI! lolx.

So be like me! The person whom everyone loves to hate!! hehehe

remember kiddos " Safety First!"

er.. u're a fresh grad of nautical studies? Dude get a sponsor then u sail on board as a deck cadet work ur seatime then u'll know. If u're from ALAM then sad to say u earn RM lor and not that high anyways. But u gotta start somewhere. If u're from Singapore Poly, then more chances u'll be with NOL ( if they still run that program). then u'll be paid in USD ( or maybe now changed to SGD oledi) and the pay is much higher and you gain more experience than those who sail on MISC vessels.

I might be biased but then it's the truth, MISC cadets dun learn much compared to NOL cadets. As most MISC cadets are pampered form what i've seen.

As for the work schedule it depends on the company you sign with. If for example (I'm using my own experience) you sail with NOL you will sail for say 6 months at a time after which you get 1 to 2 months paid leave depending on the type of vessel you sail on (Tanker or Container vessels). You can also extend your stay on a vessel 2 months at a time. This was of course done more than 10 years ago since I first started sailing.

Honestly sea life is not for everyone. But its one helluve exciting life and the experience which you cant buy and the best thing is you will know how to survive and how to deal with people. So kudos for passing out but as for the salary range for a marine navigator it would depend on your C.O.C. and company you work for and also the type of vessels u sail on.

Engineer, engineer , engineer only I hear.. how boring. Where ar ehte rest of the HSE guys? lolx. Wanna compare? hehehe

Safety Engineer? Haiz another fresh grad commanding high pay and expect everything to be given to him on a silver spoon? Well, I've not read the whole topic but I would really like to know this safety Engineer's qualification. I'm too lazy to run thru all the pages as you can see.

I'm a HSE Manager for the largest Plant Turn Around in the region now. And am hiring OSCC ( Operational Safety Control Coordinators) for the current turn around project. It s project contracted job hence work for only 3-4 months tops. Send me your cv if u're interested and nope they pay is not high but the experience is invaluable. Just to participate in this turn around one would get their foot in O&G easily (downstream) for plant turnarounds. So mail me your c.v's to g.rod.hse@gmail.com (my personal email so my company e-mail wun get flooded) hehehe

Coopers Cameron is a good company, from my experience with them. I freelance hence I've managed to have a feel of different companies but then again maybe being freelance they treat me better? I dunno.

actuallyh with oil prices dropping this is a good time to do mantainance. or Turn Arounds. for plants. hence contractors still get contracts, so it doesnt really affect much.

U wanna join shell? lolx. Shell marketing or SSB, SSPC? IMHO, just join the contractor lah better wages and longer term. Shell's terms are 2 years contract for most staff. its to keep the performance up and not allow hte workers to slack off. Try to join Petra as they've been awarded another term with Shell worth 1.2Bil if i'm not mistaken. You could also try TLO or basically the Sapura Group of whom Petra sub-contracted out part of their Shell Job to them.

HSE personnel - HSE Officer average daily rate is USD 800 - USD 1k per day. =P~~

SapuraCrest is the largest O&G Provider in Malaysia (if i'm not mistaken) hence, it IS special. Joining TLO ro TLGS, etc. is a good platform for you to train. Start from there and you will see more options opening up for you. If you wanna get your foot in the door. DO apply as theri subsidary companies like Sarku, etc are looking for personnel to be based in Miri, Sarawak. you could also try Petra.

These are companies where one would start their career to learn and they are good learning platforms. Here just forget about Petronas cos they all work on Shell projects and as we all know Shell is way ahead compared to Petronas in terms of HSE and benefits including salary. Oh plus there aint no such thing as the BUMI thing that you find in Petronas.

Poy : I'm not working with any company. I'm a freelancer specialising in HSE for both Upstream and downstream. So I only do projects or work on consultant basis.

Yeah dude Go sailing. I was a marine navigator but then left that line and pursued HSE which seems to help a lot. Cos when u sail U start from the bottom no matter what qualification you have while on land. And that's the best way to learn and gather experience.

Yeah Marine navigator = Deck side lor hehehe. Was on the VLCC Eagle memphis while it was still with AET ( American Eagle Tankers) before MISC bought over the fleet. As for how long it took me to become a freelancer, er.. I really dun know how to say lor. It just happenned? I just took up one project then after that project calls kept coming in for offers, etc so i just continue on lor. nice lifestyle I must say cos get to meet different people everytime and since doing projects only there's not much politics going on. Plus I love the long breaks between projects as can rest after a project for a few months one. Get higher pay as a freelancer nia.

O&G not stable if you sit your fat ass in a company and work like a drone like the rest of the people. O&G is VERY profitable and VERY stable if you are on contract work or basically if you freelance. I've been doing so for quite sometime now and watever so called recession has never affected me so far. I take projects that last say 6 months up to a max of 12 months then I take a 6 month break. After that go another contract lor. Syiok wat. work 1 year rest 6 months. lolx. Duwan meh? lolx

Been working for more than 10 yrs before I went freelance.

IDK : I was a Marine Navigator on VLCC's. So HSE is second nature to me. SO get into HSE lor. easy as Pie. Sad to say i'm pass the HSE officer level hehe, I'm a HSE Manager / Consultant.

Zzzz... All want big money. All worry about what other people think, saying salary too low, etc. Look in the mirror and judge yourself. How much will you be comfortable with? Secure the job then stick to it and do your best. Instead of b****ing that the salary too low, etc. Wait lah when there's too many of you guys around then we start to kill the salary then we see who will cry. Lolx.

Oh a word of advice, if you wanna earn BIG money, since every bloody idiot in here wants to earn big, go Freelance instead of working in a company! u'll make up to 3 times more than others. So are your balls as big as mine to dare to go freelance? Breakyourself!! hehehe

I've encountered people whom i've interviewed who casually tell me that they're in HSE for the money and guess what? I do not hire them. Why? Cos in every dept we are interested in hiring those who actually CAN do the work and if they are fresh, obviously we are looking for those who are willing to learn and dedicated and not just tying to get the job for the $$.

One thing I have to say is , the only time you'll find that you'll earn more $$ is when people call you for a job and not vice versa.

vincentngws, sometimes it depends on how one looks at what is fair wages and employee's welfare etc. One should also look at what one's responsibility pertaining to the job. Most of the youngsters i've met all demand high pay but cant produce results. Actually during the interview session fail even though some of them have the papers etc. Its all about a person's personality really.